Another Redraw!
I need Fubuki ass
I need Murata ass
Dead series, only retard power scalers read this shit.
I’m butthurt Murata sped through Saitama vs Flash just to redraw all this stuff. Not that I’ve been following it.
Redraw arcs are kino
I need Sonic ass
>redrawing the entire arc for the 4th time KEK murataslurpers what is this?
>>275412417Why murata ruined all the mistery one creared?
>>275412417>Another Redraw
Please opm RETARDS, try to defend this.
>>275412897>try to defend thisI can't, i'm tired boss
>>275412417Another W chapter
>>275412417Didn't Flash already rush Blast? Or was that undone with a prior redraw?
>>275412897all I want is fubuki sex dont care about the dogshit story anymore lol
>>275412417>14 months of work and progress down the drain
Supposedly Blast's wife is brought up in the redraw
>>275413032I don´t know anymore, all the redraws just blur together.
>>275412417TH-THANK YOU *SCHLOP* *SCHLOP* MURATA-SAMAAAA!!!!!!
>>275413153I stopped reading because of redraws. Why do so many redraws happen?
>>275412696Agreed
>>275413032It still jappened in the MA arc. For whatever reason Flash thinks the result is gonna be different even though only a few days passed. Murata probably forgot it hasn’t been long in-universe with all the redraws.
>>275412601>only retard power scalers read this shitThey should drop it too, since this redraw retcon all of the Void dimension bullshit.
>>275413350Reminder that Phoenixman not only killed the hype but also the entire manga, and it all started with him.
>>275413038Murata should just give up and do porn.
>>275413465We never escaped pic related, yes.
>>275412417Each time we see blast, he become weaker and weaker.
>>275412897How long will the manga go one? 10 years at the least?
>>275412417Wait, of the redraw that's been around for a year or more?https://youtu.be/zKFD0m7Xi8g
They have really no fucking plan for this arc despite it being an adaptation, what the fuck man. Did they spend the break reviewing their year's work and realizing it was total shit?Ninja leader drawing looks better, wish they would just offscreen him and move on from the stupid Blast friendship backstory
>>275413553What will happen first: the manga being completed or Murata losing to Cancer?
>>275413553Seems about right, considering the webcomic material and the current release speed. But how well is it even selling, to say it'll last that long? Considering the fanfiction aspect has yet to relent, I'm assuming the nips are eating it up.
>>275412897this is far worse than if it was just on hiatus, it's the fucking definition of insanity
>>275413540>gets memed on and dismissed as small-time by God-Garou>shown bloodied and tried after fighting the centipede>gets wrecked by That-Man, the joke villain of the ninja arcdefinitely a weird way to adapt him
>>275413617>TheyMurata transitioned? When?
>>275413713Murata doesn't write the plot either, he lets his subordinates fill that in after handing them some pencil sketches
>>275412417At least the art finally looks good again. At this point we can tell if a redraw is happening based on how much effort Murata is putting on the art.
>Murata later reveals GOD is constantly changing the timeline so everything was canon all alongI KNEEL
>>275413032He did it once during the monster association arc
>>275413153There was a 2-month hiatus too, so they had time to think over the last redraw. What the fuck is happening in the background for this stupid shit to happen?
>>275412417>nah that can't be true>check the raws>redraw of 193AAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHA what the fuck murataHe has no excuse anymore because ONE is busy with Versus and Bug Ego
>>275413410Murata is a perfectionist, if he feels his drawing isn't good enough, he'll redraw it. And since his advance on volume release is about 2 years and half, he can afford it
>>275412897I thought 151 came out last year. Where are these 44 hidden chapters?
So this means they're redrawing the introduction of the Neo Heroes too, right? I want them to remove Webigaza's crown like picrel, it would make her better and more accurate to the webcomic.
Keng/a/nbro here, should i read this?
>>275414077Some numbers are the upload #, some are the online-chapter #, and others are the volumerelease-chapter #snot counting mistakes they do in numbering which can cause some chapter #s to appear twiceyes, it's really freaking confusing
>>275414122No one should read this, we're only here to see a beloved series slowly rot because of sunk cost fallacy
>>275412417>spend a year making a shit adaptation of the ninja arc>it's bad so spend a whole other year redrawing all of it to arrive to the exact same place>it's even shittier so start redrawing it yet againWhy is it so hard to just adapt the arc exactly like it was in the webcomic? It was short and sweet yet had some good action and a predictable but funny punchline because the series is supposed to be a comedy.See you in 2026.
>>275412897No wonder I was confused trying to find the "newest" chapter. What a fucking shitshow.
>>275414122Imagine Omega at it's worst, except that there was never even anything funny bad to laugh at.That's OPM for years now.
>>275414188>Man I keep failing to get this arc right>I just can't seem to write it in a way that fits the one punch man universe keeping it cool but still funny>God I wish I had source material to adapt to make it easier
Did he axe Saitama wanting to go mug Sonic to pay back Flash because it would seem too unwholesome?
>>275413038SEXO
>>275412417wake me when he redraws the manga into something good
>>275414122It's good. The main issue with it are the hxh-tier hiatuses.
>>275413790Let him cook
>ONE can’t write shit anymoreWell, that’s it
Murata's illustrations peaked during Eyeshield 21's USA training arc -> first half of the autumn tournament.
He is unbeatable.
>>275413790Then why is Saitama too weak to avoid being reconned?
>>275414188Too desperate to try to squeeze in the retarded fucking Blast plotline that only bogs it down
>>275414711You can infer from the God-Garou shit where Garou keeps pace with a slight bit of his power that God is stronger than Saitama
>>275414711*retconned
So does the web comic version already have an ending?
>>275414789Both are moving at a glacial pace. We had a half-year hiatus recently and it looks like we're moving into another one.
>>275413410I don't even know what's canon anymore lmao
>>275412897Is it ONE who is making these story changes? I can't see why Murata would cause himself to work more than he needs to. This is ridiculous, why not just do exactly what ONE did in the webcomic and call it a day, unreal.
>>275414912>I can't see why Murata would cause himself to work more than he needs to.Because hes fucking retarded. Remember that this isn't the first time Murata ruined a series that wasn't his.
At this point I don't know if it's ONE or Murata's fault. I have to go with Murata now, ONE's been cooking with bug ego and versus, how would he just forget how to write. The webcomic is also really good, the last few chapters we've gotten
>>275414912I doubt he's making any decisions regarding the manga. ONE is working on other series that have great writing like Bug Ego, so either he has completely lost his touch for specifically OPM but he can still write other comedy, or he's just not involved in OPM anymore. Latter seems more likely
>>275412417Are we ever going to see Garou and/or tatsumaki again? Only two characters I care about
opm ended here
>>275412417The fundamental problem with One Punch Man is that ONE stopped giving a fuck and gave Murata the reigns while he focused on other projects like Mob Psycho 100, Versus, and Bug Ego. Murata lacks the storytelling ability to keep the power fantasy deconstruction meta-narrative of One Punch Man going, so it's just degenerated into generic shounenslop with good art.No, actually, it's even worse because at least most generic shounenslop gets out in a timely manner. Murata keeps the work schedule of a lazy content creator who only posts to make a quick buck and let his fans know that he's still alive.
>>275412417did he just nuke a year of progress ? there's just no way right
>>275412417Are we in some kind of timeloop
>>275414789ending to this arc? Yesending to the entire story? No(though ONE did say he knew what the ending to OPM was going to be very early on in the webcomic)
Has any other manga EVER released a redraw/retcon version of an already redrawn/retconned chapter?
>>275415318We've seen Garou a few times in the current arc. Take your pills.
>>275414912ONE did not create the manga. Murata drew the pilot chapter and asked ONE for permission to author a full adaptation. There are some original chapters and sequences voluntarily written by ONE, but it is not his work and never will be.How fucking difficult is it for the retards to understand this? It's Murata's adaptation of another person's original work, Murata is the author, the story credits do not actually imply any active involvement from the author of the work being adapted because it's a legally mandated credit.
>>275414108I will never call her Wavyganza, in the same way I will never call Fuhrer Ugly "President Ugly".
>>275415692>Black Spermatozoon>Garo
Has anybody ever bothered calculating exactly how many years total Murata has wasted on redraws? How about total pages thrown in the trash? must be a few volumes worth by now.It's baffling this is preferable to anyone involved rather than spending some time planning any of this shit out in advance.
>>275416058Like two years. This is the most egregious instance so far, actually. Phoenix Man wasted like 6 months or so.
>>275416058all this time could have been spend drawing Tatsumaki ecchi spinoff (the only good thing about this series, one joke man was always bad btw)
>>275416217Why is Murata so obsessed with a character who is in the original for 3 pages before dying?
both the webcomic and manga are shit now
>retards think they could do it better
>>275416262I don't care about his obsession with making Void have relevance, what I do care about, however, is him trying to include Bl*st in literally EVERY FUCKING CHAPTER these days, just fuck off, there is nothing appealing about Blast, he is shallow, he has no charisma, he's just a cheap walmart version of Superman that is somehow even more boring than the original Superman.
>STORY BY ONE
>>275416058I just checked, it's difficult to tell since not all pages are redrawn in a redraw, but assuming each redraw took an upload schedule awaythere were 30 chapters in the entire OPM manga that were redrawn, on average we have 6 chapters per volumethat means 5 volume were full of chapters were scrappedand since on average it takes 2 weeks to make a chapter, that is 60 weeks, meaning a little more than a year.
>>275416393name another mangaka that had to go back and nuke his published work because he realized he was writing himself into a corner
>>275416393All you would have to do is follow the webnovel. Give coomers a bit more Fubuki and Moe lovers a bit more ryona with Tastumaki. Oh and one more thing, a whole lot less Blast.
>STORY BY MURATA
the downfall of the One Punch Man manga is something that need to be studied, I say that unironically
I want to see his official OPM porn.
>>275416587It's like the fall of Rome. Rome(One) forgot to tard wrangle the Visigoths(Murata).
This is endless eight in manga format. If you don't like it you are a pleb.
>>275413038
>>275412897KEK
>>275416782did she raid Psykos closet?
>>275412417QUIT IT WITH THE FUCKING REDRAWS MURATA
>>275412897maybe if someone had be writing chapters this wouldn't be happening
>>275416587it's the redraws constantly retconning the story and not ever knowing if what you're reading will be the "final" version
>>275414912Murata has said it himself that he is a "perfectionist"
He should just do a fubuki and tatsu spin off
>Void can attack outside casuality>he literally erases the timelines where he loses so Murata is forced to redraw the arc until he winsBRAVOBRAVISSIMO
>>275412417That was unironically better because the shit Murata created was so garbage that it was better to redraw it anyway or it would make the series even worse than it already is. I don't want to defend the manga with all the nonsense it's done, but this time I'm glad it's a redraw, I hope this time he doesn't do something as shitty as last time.
>>275414108I hope that Webigaza will also be redesigned because her design was garbage last time.
>>275414636So powerful, be redraws the series itself so as not to lose.
>>275417442Yeah, Manga Wavygyaza is cute, not gonna lie, but her Webcomic counterpart just looks better, is more attractive and has a better design overall, I imagine it could look very good in manga format if adapted well.
>>275417554I'm sorry but this is truly soul vs soulless
>>275413393
>>275417386No, best case scenario would be him moving the fuck on and adapting the webcomic. Prolonging the fanfic is just business as usual, we'll get the same shit.
Story by ONE
>>275417778What do you mean? He is still doing the webcomic, just a few chapters a year sure but he is still doing it.The manga getting axed won't change that since, you know.
it's especially embarrassing that this is happening the same week an actually incredible chapter of bug ego released, i don't know how you can sit here and argue one is writing both these series with how stark the difference in quality is
What confuses me the most about the situation of the OPM manga is, how is it possible that no details about the behind the scene shitshow has leaked to the public? Aren't the japanese readers asking questions? ONE, Murata, the editors, the magazine, nobody has been questioned about what the fuck is going on since the manga went off the rails? I just can't comprehend about the silence surrounding one of the biggest trainwrecks in manga history.
>>275417920You know what they say, give them breads and circus (fanservice in this context), and they never complain.
>>275417442>>275417554Well, at least they've already made major improvements to that man's design, so Webigaza may also have hope.
>>275417554The manga one is generic. It kind of feels like Murata has sameface for a lot of the women in the series, so her only unique factor is I guess the frilly dress and I don't care about clothesAt least the webcomic version has the excessive eyelashes going for her
Ok, this part was funny. Flashy Flash looks like a power scaler making Saitama>Garou>Platinum Sperm>Flashy Flash.
>>275414077Volume release and Online release have different numberings, partially due the redrawing retardation, and the other reason being due to early chapters being experimental stuff like the Metal Knight takes flight or Saitama vs Genos framed like animating cells kind of chapter being completely reorganized or fused with another chapter for the Volume release, stuff like that made a mess of the numbering between serialization and volume releases.
>>275418209Isn't flash supposed to be an arrogant asshole and he's in denial that Saitama (or anyone else) is stronger than him?
>>275412417>>275412897apparently he decided to redo all the ninja stuff, hopefully this will remove the void cringe and stick more to the webcomic (highly doubt it but one can hope)personally, the only redraw I ever really wanted to see was a redraw of the manga garou vs saitama fight because that was peak cringe and really needed to be more like the webcomicalso inb4 the whole redrawn ninja arc is just for adding small details while keeping the cringe void story
>>275418075> they've already made major improvements to that man's design,Anon, Void’s design has been changing every chapter. The fact he put so much emphasis from the get go on his monster form makes it very likely we’ll barely see this form and he’ll quickly switch to the cosmic fujobait.
>>275418075It look closer to his webcomic face, definitely promising for now, I hope they keep it that way.>>275418097I agree that Webigaza's eyelashes are one of the most striking parts of her design, her manga counterpart also had it but it was very diluted, he should amplify them.
>>275417827Yes, what I meant is that Murata should've moved on from the arc and stuck to the WC story, instead of redoing shit, since it'll most likely be shit, again.
>>275418266Yeah, he's in denial, that's the raw, so that might not be right, but he seems to be angry at being forced to think logically and then denying the logic.
>>275418288Also I wouldn't call her manga design completely soulless, it still held some kind of charm, but it just lacked the allure of the original Webigaza.
>>275412897nothing can defend this, even the leddit translators got mind broken enough to not want to translate this chapter right away (only ever other time this happened was when murata decided to revive d-os lol)
>>275418288>I hope they keep it that way.Same
can some weeabo translate this chapter here? reddit decided to collectively off themselves over this redrawn
At least Murata cares enough about the quality of his work to redraw stuff, because let's be honest, the Ninja arc just doesn't compare to his earlier work
>>275412417>STILL reading OPMWhat is the point even?Is a hyper slow manga that is no longer even good
>>275417632How many levels of mindbreak is this to realize the redraws are shit, to think ONE is actually still writing this slop, but to then think since ONE is a good writer that this is all a part of some master keikaku?
>>275412897Now do this for the webcomic
>>275418419>decided to collectively off themselves over this redrawwe should do the same
was the martial arts tournament the first time murata did a redraw?
Am I not the target audience?I mean I started reading it and then I watched most of S1 because I liked the animation and the subversion of a guy who can easily defeat all these enemies with their intricate design, ranks and a huge ego about how important they were compared to humanity, while he a simple bald head simply didn't care.But when I look at some random chapters I just see generic shounen bullshit and apparently time travel too and multiple retcons.To whom is this supposed to appeal? I guess the average battle shounen, power level loving consumer.
>>275414188BECAUSE MUH GOD OVERARCHING STORY WOOOOOOOOW
>>275412417Reminder that the only pacing that matters is the volume pacing
>>275418557No my dear newfriend. The Sea King fight was the first time Murata did a redraw.
>>275418601Murata changed the story therefore the target audienceBut he is WAY TOO RETARDED to even keep a cohesive narrative despite how simple it should beThe manga is garbage, period, there is nothing to do with it, even if you like shonen a story that moves this glacially and adds random shit whenever it feels like is way worse than dbs
>>275418601>To whom is this supposed to appeal?to dumb niggers and DBS shitposters
>>275418557Searched it up and apparently according to some leddit post Murata has been doing it since the beginning. More specifically there were some redraws surrounding Boros' fight but there were a few even before then. I'm not sure there were any full chapter redraws before the tournament. According to this there might have been one chapter during Boros that got a full redraw
If Saitama oneshots That Man, will Murata have Blast dick ride Saitama too?
>>275418710https://www.reddit.com/r/OnePunchMan/comments/ghpcal/comment/fqaazovEasier to just link it actually
>>275412417LMAO, we joked about it, but I didn't think it would actually happen. Okay, now the redraws still happening is legitimately funny.
>>275418875but this apparently deleted a whole year of progress in the storythat's quite literally the biggest redraw so far
>>275418660I never picked up Super because while I enjoyed and even rewatched Z, I felt that just doing more of that meant that Toriyama (rip) never evolved from the tropes he made famous.>>275418666Well if even Satan agrees, it must be true.
>>275414912This wouldn’t be the first time One asked for a redraw but what do you expect when the source material isn’t getting adapted for over a year now? He has to put space between the webcomic but a filler would be much better at this point
Imagine if he started redrawing from the start of the MA arc and the anime + half the volumes became non canon LMAO
>>275419019Yeah, and it's still funny, I don't care that much about the progress of the story in the manga anymore anyway, so I might as well get a laugh out of it. At that point it became a funny meme.
>>275419062Probably the only way he can redeem himself at this point
>>275419062This could actually be good, if this time they actually fix the previous problems this could be OPM's salvation even with the lost years. The lost years are a shame, but it's better than being left with the garbage we've been given.
>>275412533God fucking Dammit, Murata. Do it already
>>275419044Toriyama had many issues despite being a legendHis actual passion was writing poop jokes, not the serious plot db evolved intoAnd maybe it was the injury he suffered or just his age, but by forgetting the whole plot several times meant that each time he had to get back to work, he was no longer able to properly follow what he himself had doneThen there is the problem of toyatoro that clearly wants to write his own thing but is employed to make a very established story already, unable too to continue accurately the story eitherRIP DB
>>275412417how many redraws have there been?would be insane to see a timeline of redraws and the alt timelines he fucking axed
>>275412417>check tonarinoyj for what happens to chapter order when there's a redraw>all chapters after the redraw are delisted>almost the whole arc gone, againHoly Jesus, you can't make this shit up.
>>275418875>>275419019Just a little more and it will be revealed that the reason for the redraws is because GOD himself is redrawing the manga and that the original interaction of the OPM universe is the webcomic bro.
>>275418601Just read the webcomic. It's shorter and much better than the manga.
>>275419192>His actual passion was writing poop jokesso the autistic retards that spam DBS threads were his real target audience
>Murata decided to trash the entire mystery surrounding Blast for powerlevelfaggotryWhat causes a man to do this?
I laughed hysterically when I saw that months and months of this garbage arc were undone again. Or, perhaps, seeing the exact same opening and Flash charge at Blast was even more hilarious. But really, what has me in stitches is that fact that shameless hackery of this scale happened and /a/ doesn't even give a shit. This manga has never been deader
>>275412897How is murata not tired of OPM already?
>>275419720If the company is still paying him, is just a hobby at that point
>>275419759...He became Saitama himself
>>275419156It’s literally the only thing I want in life
>>275419192What a shame, but understandable. Could have been worse, better to appeal the lowest common denominator fans than take to dump on everything the fans love.>>275419373Maybe when is done then, thanks.
>>275419192Toriyama still came up with characters people generally like, like the Gammas, and that was at the very end of his life.
>>275417632one is a great storyteller! (mob psycho, opm webcomic, bug ego)shame about murata's fanfiction tho
>>275420025He was extremely talented there is not the slightest doubt of thatAble to make enjoyable stories even if they didn't 100% match what he previously made
>>275416234made for anal destruction
need more of this
>>275417632subreddit is fully of people who hate it though
>>275420231You need to stop gooning and shoot your load already, so your brain stops rotting
>>275412417I have not followed OPM for I don't even know how long at this point but does the manga at least sell enough nowadays to justify dragging it like this? Legit feels like Murata would rack in more just by doing porn...
>>275420231no, we need more of this
>>275420366why is she looking at me
>>275420314I think it's been on a downward trend but even then it's still selling higher than most series maybe it's because the volume version is the only coherent way to read the manga after all the redraws lol
>>275412417imagine spending more than 1 year reading an arc only for the authors to tell you that nothing of it matters anymore because they're redoing the entire thingimagine if that happens again and again through the yearswhy are people still reading this manga?
>>275420837>why are people still reading this manga?Because it's free
>>275412417One needs to fire this clown and hire someone else to adapt his work.
>>275414188At this point I wholeheartedly believe that Murata believes what he is doing is better than ONE. There can't be any other explanation as ONE had to tard wrangle him since the fucking Boros arc. It's like Murata thinks he's unironically "fixing" the webcomic by adding in shit that every other shitter mangaka is doing.
>>275419720the art has gotten a fair bit worse, hes been phoning it in for a while now
>>275420987ONE didn't hire Murata, Murata wanted to do it and then ONE allowed him to. He gave feedback and dome storyboards at points but it was never ONE's vision to have it adapted to manga. That was what Murata wanted. ONE can't fire him, I don't know if he can even stop him after he's already agreed to license it
Ok im done with this crapIm going to make a fucking big docummental of each fucking redrawWhere did this began? Phoenix man vs emperor child no?
>>275420837>imagine spending more than 1 year reading an arc only for the authors to tell you that nothing of it matters anymoreIn the case of the ninja arc I don't care because I already didn't care about what happened before the redraw because of how garbage it was, so garbage that it simply doesn't matter even if it's remade, I hope that this time they manage to make me care a bit more. Actually, thinking about it again, I did care in the sense of hating the arc, I hope this time they manage to make me like it, even if just a little.>>275420987This.
>>275421301Sea king arc if you want to get specific
>>275421301There's a link for retconned/redrawn chapters at the tophttps://cubari.moe/read/gist/OPM/
>>275421301The very first instance of redrawing I can remember was Saitama punching the Sea King
aren't they supposed to be making an anime of this?how is it possible when the artist keeps going back and redoing shit?
>>275419371Id kneel, but Murata isn’t clever enough to write that sort of meta commentary
>>275422243he doesn't redo the volume releases.
>>275421301>>275421301>Im going to make a fucking big docummental of each fucking redrawHere's a list of all the chapters that have been retconned.https://cubari.moe/read/gist/Z2lzdC9mdW5reWhpcHBvL2RkMTlkNjU3NjhjOGJlMTk3MTFmZTllMjAwNDVkOGY1L3Jhdy9vcG0tc2NyYXBwZWQuanNvbg/>Where did this began? Phoenix man vs emperor child no?Yes, as you can see from the list, there have been redraws before, but they were only small details that had been fixed, it was from the fight with the phoenix man that this abnormal rubbish began.Also, here's a list of the current chapters that haven't been redrawn in case you want to compare the chapters that have been retconned with the redrawn ones.https://cubari.moe/read/gist/OPM/The chapters of the ninja arc that have just been retconed again have not yet been updated in the lists yet, it's funny that the translation company has just updated the retconed chapters after a long time without doing so and now they're going to have to do it all over again.>>275422243The part that will be animated has already been released in volumes, so it can no longer be redrawn.
>>275418666/dbs/ hasn't cared about OPM in years.
>>275412417What is Murata's problem?
>>275420033I see you forgot to name the other garbage series he wrote
>>275412897I was reading regularly for a few years but haven't read since 138 I think. Every second chapter was a redraw, I got confused about the story and just dropped it. Don't get me wrong I do like the story but I'll just wait for it to be done and read it without getting schizophrenia over what happened and what didn't.
Sonic is the most inconsistently drawn character in the manga
>Be Rosen garten saga>Art is getting more complex as the series goes on and they went from monthly to bi weekly to bi monthly with one chapter divided in two chapters but the storytelling were improved and the art is godlike murata
What the actual fuck? Is Murata literally going insane?
>>275423570Versus?
This is just unprofessional and quite embarrassing at this point.Can't this faggot try planning our things before wasting years of everyone's life with this shit.He even has a whole webcomic to serve that purpose if he wants to run it by the fans first.
>>275412897I fear not the man who has drawn a 1000 chapters, but the man who has drawn 1 chapter 1000 times
At this point it would be less effort to just skip back all the way to Psykos vs Ttsumaki and start adapting the Webcomic. as closely as possible. Funnily enough it would massively improve the pacing.Sadly it's all been put to print so it cannot be changed anymore.
>>275423570Seething
>>275412417Not very surprise Murata clearly doesnt know what the fuck is he doing with the story anymore and tried to write it straight like its a shounen capeshit axed in 19 chapters or sth. He’s inserting blast like he is the mentor figure helping mc group, even with a serious sad backstory related to some big bad void too lolVersus, while not being One’s best work, still miles better with creating hypes for fights and interesting op characters, and still pretty much plays it straight too And I dont want to talk about Bug Ego because the quality difference is just insane
>>275416420Thanks for the calculations
This shit cannot be written by ONE because whenever there is a new webcomic chapter out it's as good as the earlier parts.
>>275413670>But how well is it even selling, to say it'll last that long?Despite the huge drop compared to before, it is still selling very well.
>>275425248Not to mentioned his other series You must he a delusional shounentard to believe this mess is written by the same person
I think the worst part isn't just that the manga fell apart, it's when. Like it takes a fucking eternity to get to MA, and just as it gets to the stuff everyone has been waiting for, everything goes to absolute shit.
This arc can be saved if Murata decides to make Sonic naked for the rest of the manga.
>>275425354The tournament arc is the first part when the Murata fan fiction symptom started but it doesnt affect the main story as much, and part of it still feels like One’s writing It truly solidified with Blast and his avenger team’s reveal, along with the God plot bullshit
>>275425386Webigaza >>> Other female characters and femboys.
>>275414912It was literally stated that Murata was the one who wanted the redraws for the ninja arc.
>>275425494webigaza doesn't have a small ass, this fanart is wrong
>>275425494I think not.
>>275419046Reminder
>>275424045you could argue that the art is better than murata because Rosen garten saga has actual cool designs and cool shitalso tits
>>275418343>(only ever other time this happened was when murata decided to revive d-os lol)Actually, if I remember correctly, this also happened in the last or second-to-last chapter.
This is awfulI don't think we'll ever know what really happened, but what a miserable experience it's been to follow this seriesFrom a top of the line Madhouse production to a middling J.C. Staff season and then whatever the fuck you call this direction the manga been on
>>275425248See >>275415681
What's the likelihood ONE is responsible for manga Saitama vs Garou?
>>275425386He’s really been skimping on the Sonic fanservice
>>275414912Murata, like the shounentard he is, can only does shounentard writing, so he>ramp up god screen time as the final big bad for our heroes to defeat >added his OC Blast as a mentorspecifically to fight god, along with his team of avengers (like the pillars in Demon slayers or the pro heroes in MHA)The biggest issue is, OPM is never about that since the beginning, aka having some grand plot vs the biggest evil of the world, so everything felt so hamfisted, literally fanfiction tier OPM, and One writing in general, has been about the characters instead and their inner struggle, their development, while Murata spic version has been constantly missing such nuances in the manga Blast, for example, is an one dimensional character, created only as a plot device to connected the whole thing to god and fight it, which is why he is lame as fuck The only fags who can still praise this frankenstein of a series is the ‘hype for fight’ shounentards like Murata himself, but even them started to see the dip in quality as Murats struggled to keep this whole shit together Unless Murata literally change the writing, another redraw won fix anything, like at all, just more abominations I bet he read Ego or Versus and felt so shameful he immediately jump back to erase a year worth of chapters
Is there any hope of the webcomic being adapted into an anime one day? Please let there be a chance!
>>275426057ZeroONE is not the guy who relied on nonsensical spectacles like muh super duper galaxy time crashing kung fu
>>275412417I just don't understand why Murata doesn't have his assistants do the redraws while he focuses on new chapters. Don't like your older work and think it can be improved on? Fine. Nothing wrong with feeling that way. But you keep the manga moving and let your assistants do the fixing for you.Why doesn't Murata just do this?
>>275412417redraw of which chapter/arc?
>>275426285Because he couldnt plan shit like thatHow do you write from 30 chapters in advance if you dont know which or what happens specifically in each chapters For example while writing sometime you may expand or shorten events, adding new characters or plot points, and that mean even more redraw for the ‘newer’ chapters to address thatHmmm if only he has something like a rough blueprint hmmm
You can tell the amount of newfags here boldly stating "there's no way this is written by ONE" when we've known this for almost half a decade now.
>>275412897>>275413153>>275426466So the whole ninja arc
I just wanted to see the Hero Name Victims Association...
>>275414874me neither, the redraws from monster association arc fucked me up pretty bad.
>>275426654It's better late than never anon. It's been obvious forever but considering how many people still don't believe this, I'll take anybody realising it at this point.
>>275412897
>>275412417can he just start all over again from the monster association arc?
>>275427001I wish.
>>275427001If only All he has to do is upgrading the art and adding some fan services
>>275427001I'd like that to happen, but I think he can't because everything up to the point where Saitama's fight with Garou begins has already been released in volumes, he can only redraw what hasn't been released in volumes yet I think.
>>275426226Isn't Versus a lot of spectacle?
>>275413038>>275416782Fubukin is literally perfect.
>>275427001>>275427220As you can see here, these were the last volumes to be released.2/2
>>275427260It would be perfect if Murata finally draws her nude
>>275427352He did, but cucked out by adding bras in the official version
>>275427443I will never find peace until I get to see Fubuki’s ass
>>275412417how could ONE do this??
>>275423887but is his ass still fat?
>>275427677Too busy writing Versus and Bug ego
why is ANY publisher allowing murata to bend them over the barrel and fuck them like this? if you keep redrawing shit volumes are going to get released later and later and that has to mess with sales somehow. the guy used to serialise in wsj, for gods sake. if you asked them to redo even a tenth of what murata has now they'd piss on you and laugh.
>>275414122Imagine in the middle of match between Ohma vs Lolong in Kengan vs Purgatory, suddenly Sandro redid everything and we were back in the start of the tournament. Yeah, I won't recommend it.
How is Miura so good at pacing Berserk but he fails so much on OPM?
>>275427327Did these volumes get redrawn? Kinda scummy move by Murata.
>>275427783Idk but it must be a special contract for Murata or some shit after OPM blew up as a hit
>>275427783Murata has some kind of weird allowance that lets him get away with crazy bullshit like this
>>275425354>it takes a fucking eternity to get to MA, and just as it gets to the stuff everyone has been waiting for, everything goes to absolute shit.this hurts me every time I'm reminded of opm
>>275425683What’s your point?
all those chapters lost in time..like redraws in OPMan..
>>275425694Blame that on the shit designs he has to try to fix
>>275427966The chapters that make it into the volumes are always the finalized chapters (that's why they take so long to release), but none of those chapters had retconned versions anyway. The next volume will.>>275428144Out of the entire fucking embarrassing shitshow that was the Garou fight, I think this might actually be the part I despised the most. More than even the time travel.
>>275415368Damn it this page. This fucking page. This could have been a genuinely good alternate version of what the webcomic did and he went with that utter horseshit that finally killed the manga for me. I didn't even mind the Phoenix Man shit (at first), but throwing this away for that worthless space fight was the last straw.
>>275427712I hope so
>>275428266The fight up until that point was already pretty terrible. I think people forget because of how good the conclusion to the fight is, but the Saitama vs Garou fight itself in the webcomic is excellent too. The manga version of it, even pre-cosmic Garou, had none of its charm
>>275426165>MANIFESTINGonegai ;_;
>>275427443pic?
>>275422243They have over two seasons of content to work with, it takes around 5 years for an adaption, and by S5 the manga will have a lot more content by then
>>275426226But he was fine with kicks to the moon and table flipping the ground
>>275428474>by S5 the manga will have a lot more content by thenAre you sure with this kind of pace?
>>275418468The webcomic doesn't have redraws, nor is it a published work. You could do a hiatus chart like HxHs, though it won't be formatted the same way as it doesn't have the same set schedule other manga have (in lieu of being a webcomic).>>275427001It's not feasible anymore unless Murata is willing to get publishers to rescind the physical volumes themselves to redraw them, which would never happen.>>275428056Murata is the person who requested to redraw the recent chapters, not ONE.>>275414122Maybe when Phoenix Man shows up again, but that's unlikely./opm/ is just a shambling corpse which only has two avenues of actual, non-meta discussion (powerscaling and waifuposting). Nothing like Keng/a/n, which is livelier and carries the experience of reading Omega, which the OPM threads do not.>>275427783A special contract + ONE's general apathy on OPM is the most likely, I can't picture Miura or Togashi being allowed redos of their older chapters whenever they want to.
>>275428144please tell me this is fanartonegai
I'll never not be mad.
>>275428698It's real.Sorry.After sending Saitama back into the past, the old timeline still stayed long enough for Tareo to miraculously come back to life and see Garou fade away after he killed everybody else through radiation exposure. Somehow.
>>275426285What would you do if you’re catching up to the arc you’re about to adapt with no foreseeable updates?
>>275428773Just catch up and wait for new webcomic chapters like the rest of us? Do original content like the filler tournament arc instead of retconning old chapters? This is an odd defense of the manga's unprofessionalism.
>>275428144I genuinely hate everything about the manga Garou fight
No one even cares about One Punch Man anymore. Everyone clocked out after the Monster Association arc. Who is this redraw for?
>>275428890Powerscalers and Manchildren who look at all the pretty fights
>>275428890murata's ocd
>>275428906>pretty fightsthe fights dont even look good anymore...
>>275428677Maybe Murata understands that he has too put more space in between the arcs since he’s only one arc away from reaching the robot invasion chapters
>>275428967If putting space was the goal, why not just take a long hiatus until new webcomic chapters come out instead of this needless work? Murata could rightfully shift the attention to ONE by doing this, but no, instead of just taking a break and letting himself cool down, he continues to burn himself out redoing old content. It's not like ONE isn't doing anything either, we know he's been writing VERSUS and Bug Ego.It's a perfectionism thing, not a catching up thing.
>>275428906Nah even they've moved on to other series.
>>275428890How's Japan liking it anyways? They're the ones who matter.>>275428967The webcomic has been unacceptably slow for a decade or so now. The manga is going to fucking die if Murata tries to match that pace. In fact, I'd bet the reason it's still kicking is because of the brief post-MA period where it went back to adapting shit.
>>275428659When he was doing the Phoenixman redraws up until the Garou fight that was already 2 more seasons they could adapt with the material provided. The manga will have finished several arcs by the S5 is adapted which will probably take around 10 years
Whats goes through Murata's broken mind when he thinks "Oh, my fanfic is too retarded, Ill just redraw the last year of chapters, no one would mind"
>>275429179>The manga is going to fucking die if Murata tries to match that paceIt will die if it continues the large-scale undoing of progress, because that has a cooling effect on enthusiasm. Berserk didn't die when it took a long hiatus, neither did HxH die when it took its own long hiatus. OPM won't die from a hiatus. The fans ARE dedicated.
>>275429107You would be surprised, people still eat this shit up
>>275428677 /thread. You're absolutely right. The state of OPM threads compared to something like Keng/a/n is depressing, but honestly, what else can we expect? When the source material doubles back on itself instead of moving forward, the fanbase dies with it. Murata's god-tier art can't carry *everything*, especially when the changes actively gut the pacing and storytelling. It's a shame, but at this point, we're just watching a slow decline into irrelevance.
>>275428773that sounds like such bullshitthe MA/garou arc was already complete in the webcomic at the time that murata was drawing the beginning of the tournamentmurata did not need to pad out and redraw for years like he did after then martial arts tournamenthe could've updated an epic kino adaption of the MA arc every month if he was that needlessly worried
>>275428826They’re trying to make money and I can only imagine how monumentally awful the decline in sales will be after a hiatus. The new filler arc sounds good on paper but it’s kinda hard to create an original arc when the writer can’t even put out a single webcomic chapter in a year. And at least the manga is professional enough to release regularly unlike the webcomic
>>275429659>and I can only imagine how monumentally awful the decline in sales will be after a hiatusI understand Murata and ONE caring about sales, but do we have a chart for how well Berserk and HxH (and maybe the less popular World Trigger) sold during its hiatus? We're going to need that for a reference. OPM is a large manga with an anime that made it mainstream, not a little one that is at risk of being axed.>at least the manga is professionalThe webcomic was never professional, the webcomic is a hobby.
>>275429754the anime releasing would help with backlog sales anywaybut you know, murata keeps redrawing everything delaying volume releases which might be different than what he last redrew and the anime probably needs to wait for all that
>>275429179Well yeah a great Tatsumaki arc will save any manga but either pace is going to kill the manga
>>275429575I recall the manga used to release a chapter every one to three, maybe even four months during the tournament arc, so this biweekly schedule is actually a recent thing.
>>275429856The anime has more than enough content and production time without having to wait on Murata
>>275423581Same, Ive been reading them online but then I see there’s an update every once in a while but it’s the same stuff Ive read… sort off? It’s like trying to remember a dream. The big picture stuff is there but the details are different. I don’t even get why some things changed.
>>275429754OPM is still on a steady decline meanwhile HxH sales are consistently high with multi year hiatuses and the most boring arc ever made
>>275429904Even then the webcomic is slower, thought not by much. Ever since it's left the super hiatus it's been around two chapters a year.
>>275419156I genuinely need him to do this
>>275429659I wonder if ONE really knows how to continue the story or if he has writer's blockI think he said once that he already had an idea of how to finish the story, but getting there seems to be resulting rather difficult for him now
>>275429575Now think about it. Why would they even work on a filler arc in the first place if not for padding? And that’s the point dude if he didn’t waste all that time on redraws the manga would’ve caught up years ago and it would still be on hiatus right now
even leddit is making fun of murata nowits so fucking over
>>275430270It is very difficult to believe that the manga is so weak that a hiatus would tank sales when they didn't tank the two aforementioned manga infamous for long hiatuses.Again, redraws are NOT what you do when you need to catch up to the original work. I have never heard of an anime adaptation that re-animated and rewrote old episodes when they needed to stall out the original. The HxH 1999 adaptation never did that, nor did the 2011 adaptation. They literally just waited for new chapters to come out and then adapt them.The redraws were unnecessary.
>>275430268The current arc in the webcomic has the most moving parts of any arc he's written for it by far, so it's possible that's the reason it's taking so long for it to get updated. That being said, I think it's more likely it's just because he has a lot more on his plate now (writing and drawing designs for two ongoing manga) and his standard for webcomic chapter releases has increased. Seriously, if you compare the chapter drops now to those from before the Garou fight, the art quality is much much higher, as is the page count.
>>275414711Who said he doesn't recall all timelines and just doesn't give a shit? Wouldn't that be the ultimate gag?
>>275430355They consider THIS arc the downfall?
>>275412417What's even the story behind all the redraws? Is it ONE tardwrangling? Creative differences? What other manga even does this?
>>275430479>I CAN'T WRITE
>>275430000Figures. The manga adaptation is just bad I guess, which shouldn't have been a surprise.
>>275430452the cope over the garou vs saitama over there was off the charts but apparently this was really the last straw, the community was already quite broken, and this just widened the gap
>>275430268It has to be writer’s block since he’s only drawing scribbles yet he can’t even do a chapter every two months?
>>275430452>>275430564If Phoenix Man got five or six more redraws, maybe they would have considered the MA Arc to be the downfall.>>275430577ONE's working on VERSUS and Bug Ego just fine, and his art actually looks quite different from the earlier chapters now.Writer's block is actually the better scenario because you don't want the alternative where he just doesn't care.
>>275430448>if you compare the chapter drops now to those from before the Garou fight, the art quality is much much higher, as is the page count.oh yeah, by far, it actually makes you think why would murata need to keep adapting the webcomic when the ONE himself has reached an art quality decent enough of his own
It's really funny and sad that the tournament arc ended up being better than pretty much every arc after it.
>>275430613Choze had a better Awakened Garou design than Manga Garou, even.
>>275430424Closest thing I can think of is One Piece, but even then the arc redoes weren't meant as replacements but alternate versions.
>>275430645You're a chimpanzee
>>275430613the MA arc was still decent up to the psychorochi jet chapterand the psychic sisters arc was still quite nice, even if kind of added some unnecessary cringe and made tatsu a softie compared to her webcomic versionas for the current arc, I guess we gonna have to see how it goes now since its starting over again lol
>>275430671huh? how does that work? I havent really read that manga because I hate the art style it has
When will he finally go back to chapter 1 and redraw it all from the beginning so we can get the true story?
>>275430604His art improved (from actual scribbles) but it's still at the point where I'm 100% sure he could release what he currently does in a year in a month.
>>275430717The anime has TV movies that recap the arc with an alternate timeline where different characters were present that weren't in the manga and better animation. They're alright for the novelty having Brook in Drum Island and such. I think they outright redid fishman island recently for a proper season. I'm not aware of any other anime that does this.
what if he's doing it on purpsoe to get shitcanned?
>>275429915we are talking about past decisions anonymous
>>275430424The other aforementioned manga on endless hiatuses sell better than OPM with no hiatus. And the HxH 2011 addition did restart at the beginning just like Murata is doing but the difference between the two is that an anime can’t suffice on filler alone and has to end sooner or later. Murata on the other hand can delay the content depletion and still make a profit on releasing volumes
>>275414874For me if it's in the paperback release, it's canon
>>275430270>if he didn’t waste all that time on redraws the manga would’ve caught up years agostop making excuses for bullshitif murata had locked in the manga adapation would've been epic kino and boosted salesthe anime might have had a chance to make something better with better content to adaptand then make a damn filler after one of the better written arcs of recent times is completed>it would still be on hiatus right nowfine! that would be fine! at least we would've had the memories of a good arc to feed us!
>>275431161>The other aforementioned manga on endless hiatuses sell better than OPM with no hiatus.And they will sell even worse if Murata stays on the current path. The redraw plan is clearly not working.It is strange to assume the redraws won't delay work on the manga volumes. It is stranger still to assume that the redraws are part of a calculated, cynical plan to earn money when I don't think Murata is as money-minded as you are making him out to be. Murata is redrawing the manga because he is a perfectionist, not a businessman. Plain and simple.
>>275431213>at least we would've had the memories of a good arc to feed us!To add to your point, as they literally did while we were waiting for the Human Monster arc to be fully adapted. The redraws are very blatantly hurting reception of the series, and it is impossible to deny it at this stage when even Reddit is outraged to the extent they are withholding scanlations. That is actually a bit of a big deal.
The true Blast is the web comic one where he's just a mysterious caped hero with his face constantly in the shade. Blast is always out there, doing whatever, not like the manga "Blast"
>>275415024Context?
>>275427235It's plagued with the same issue his current webnovel chapters have. Bloat. He keeps introducing a bunch of characters that immediately get sidelined. His mc in Versus is Saitama without the charm and whole lot less screen time.
>>275430604Compared to every other manga it basically is. But that’s the problem if he’s working on two series how can he not find the opportunity to switch his attention to the webcomic at least a couple of times? Is the writer’s block that bad to the point where he can’t draw some breather chapters?
>>275430684The webcomic version made no sense
>>275430450He told Genos he doesn't remember fighting Garou.
>>275431117Are you saying this about JC Staff of all fucking studios?
>>275431312togashi's never finishing the current hxh arc but at least the 2011 anime adapted the existing completed arcs and left off on in a place that feels satisfactory the opm anime/manga leaving off on the beginnings of the reconstruction post-MA arc i think would be satisfactoryi honestly have no idea how any anime studio is supposed to adapt the manga's hideously bloated version of the MA arc
>>275430955He could simply say he has health issues, like every other pussy.
>>275431275If it was simply about perfectionism then the manga would still be stuck at the Darkshine fight. I just find it weird that he suddenly does these redraws when he’s getting close to the webcomic
>>275431393The manga Blast explains exactly why he’s so busy
>>275431577>He was the artist on pic related>He wanted more creative control of the series >The author decided to let him have complete control >Gets it axed pretty fast>Admits it was his fuck up
>>275428890Tatsumaki briefly revived the hype
>>275431776Except Blue in the webcomic let's everyone know Blast is a lazy bum.
>>275431789Wasn't this one of jump's big hits? How did it get axed?
>>275431815You mean the same webcomic that has Suiryu in it without ever meeting Saitama
>>275431838Murata simply derailed the story.
>>275431887Why can't a random character just come out? He's still a jobber like everyone in the neo heroes. I doubt even Blue is S-class.
>>275412897Amazing. Is it really that hard for Murtata to understand the series was only successful when it faithfully followed the web comic? AI would probably do a better job at this point.
>>275431984Because One created the character
>>275416384Unless there's been another chapter since I last checked, the most recent webcomic chapter was pretty good. It came out around the previous manga chapter too, I think, and the difference between them was stark. Considering the webcomic was keeping on keeping on with the general tenor of things and the manga was running one of the best punchlines since Garou while also showing Blast fighting.
>>275416402welp, not anymore
>>275413038Hype restored
>>275431758The physical volumes, to my knowledge, have yet to finish adapting the MA Arc which ended several years ago. Problems don't have to be the most extreme version of themselves for them to be existing.
>>275431758Blast is right there. It's obvious he is the root of the problem.This is far from the first instance of redraws becoming egregious. We already saw the Phoenix Man redraws, the D-OS redraw and the Garou sitting at the table redraw, and the main similarity between them is that they are largely manga original content.And during that time we still had several arcs worth of space between the manga and the webcomic.Murata simply doesn't know how to balance the manga original content with the old.
>>275431692This comes across as disingenuous considering the prior defenses for Murata you made.If you can give this much leeway to Murata, why not JC Staff? Why the double standard?
>>275431789I watched this anime, all of it. I had no idea. It does feel pretty rushed at the end but I don't know I feel there was plenty of filler but I've never read the manga.
>>275431814Maybe I'm just a total simp, but I've never seen a character carry a manga quite as hard as Tatsumaki. In chapters where she doesn't appear, it might as well just be dead air.
>>275428266I like the table flip
I still think ONE's art is good. We've sperged about his paneling enough but his art is very fitting for the kinds of stories he tells. Even with how simple it is, that's what's great about it. It feels very real, like some guy sat down and drew it. It's also pretty minimalistic, most of the time only what needs to be drawn is drawn. Murata can do good spreads and draw a whole city but it doesn't really "matter" for the story or the manga. ONE's art is just the vehicle to tell his story, while Murata takes the story as a vehicle to convey his art. That's why he's fine bending and twisting the story in whatever which way he likes, because he'd rather draw something cool than tell a good story. ONE has his priorities the opposite way, and why he's a vastly superior writer. And I hate to use the soul vs soulless meme but the webcomic vs manga really is that. You overdetail the characters and you lose some of the humor in how they were designed within ONE's style, like the kid with the butt-chin at the start is a lot funnier of a joke in the webcomic than it is in the manga. And I'll say it again but Garou's design is just the best in the webcomic, the beauty of having a very simple scribble-tier artstyle is that you can then choose to omit detail as a style technique. Garou being a featureless shadow, more of a shape than anything just works amazing in the webcomic and I think the design was changed in the manga because Murata literally could not replicate it within his style, it just would have looked too over detailed and more like a generic bad guy.
>>275432449>The physical volumes, to my knowledge, have yet to finish adapting the MA Arc which ended several years ago.n- nyooo...
>>275430613People really should have read the writing on the wall, the flash ninja fight and the later flash vs sperm vs garou was already basically the Saitama v garou fight but better, even before the tatsu fights the manga fights were already much worse
>>275413038I need her
>>275431627webcomic version of what made no sense?
>>275412417OPM will be remembered as the most poorly managed manga ever. How many mangas can you name with extensive redraws like this? I'm surprised people still read this mess. Fan translators might as well quit if good chunks of the story is very likely to be deleted anyway. I wish One was more assertive to completely shut down Murata's suggestions to him. He essentially allowed him to hijack his own story.
>>275413038The biggest
>>275412417translation link?
>>275430452It took years just to finish the MA arc. People don't want to spend more time on redraws for a smaller arc that is less interesting. It's just ridiculous.
>>275412417Story by ONE
>>275434064Why? It's probably not going to matter in a year. Go read something else.
>>275434064not even redditors felt like translating this, its over
>>275412417These ridiculous amount of redraws will most likely prevent OPM from actually finishing or get rushed into a very crappy ending to avoid Murata dying before he could draw it. Can you imagine if Miura decided to rewrite the whole boat arc of Berserk? I'm glad OPM is the only work that pulls this crap. Murata lacks a plan.
>>275422243The anime is dead on arrival. Season 2 killed the hype when they changed the studio to JC Staff, and they are still going to animate the next season. People only liked the anime because the first season had impressive animation.
>>275435167I unironically hope they make a mix of webcomic and manga on the anima, like ok, you have some over the top bullshit, but garou still beat the S class heroes and saitama psychologically beats him too
>>275434545Original story by ONE, adaptation based on ONE's original story by Murata*
>>275435685I hate the manga so damn much
>>275435699It completely fails to capture the point of the scene. It trades meaning for mindless spectacle.
>I want Oda to redraw dragon ball 1:1 but in his styleI don't get this way of thinking
>>275431161>HxH 2011 addition did restart at the beginning just like Murata is doingJust like Murata is doing? Is Murata redrawing the entirety of the manga or SOLELY the Ninja Arc?When I watched the 2011 anime, I never had a moment when, say, Gon was about to murder Pitou, and then the next episode, I was suddenly all the way back to when Kite was about to be murdered by Neferpitou, except this time he miraculously survives and Pitou tries to mate with him or something.The 2011 adaptation "restarted" in the same way the OPM anime "restarted" from the beginning of the story instead of continuing where the manga left off. They're entirely different adaptations.
>>275435947The changes are simply bad. That's why people are unhappy. If you take a needless risk and then slip when you could have just followed the recipe, of course people are going to be frustrated.
>>275436096People are clearly unhappy that the story is not 1:1 with the webcomic. They want to read the same story again but just in a different art style. They want to read dragon ball again but drawn by Oda instead.
>>275412417Saar please don't clutter the catalogue with this stupid fanfiction version ever againSincerely, /a/
>>275436134stop being obtuse you stupid faggotthe manga added/touched up things in the chapters that would become season 1, and the season 1 of the anime added/touched up things too, but these were good additions that enhanced the story not complete bullshit that gets redrawn more than twice
>>275435685This actually got me infuriated
Why do webcomichads get proven right every single time?
>>275431789Didn't the writer of this also say plainly that Murata has no talent for writing?
>>275432652>I've never seen a character carry a manga quite as hard as TatsumakiI was going to say Noelle with Black Clover, but even less people give a fuck about that series anymore
>>275436568we were right from the beginning and the truth slowly became harder to ignore
>>275436174you wrote yourself the difference without realizing itthey were additions, not changes, that's a BIG difference. At best an addition can improve things, at worst people can ignore a bad addition. However generally people hate change
Which autistic doujin artist is going to step up and redraw the manga from the MA arc, rigidly following the webcomic?
>>275431604The webcomic is a hobby. It's as simple as that. ONE most likely, genuinely doesn't give that much of a fuck about OPM, just by looking at the current state of the manga I can't say anything more definitive.But it's not like we are starved of content. Just read VERSUS or Bug Ego.>>275436134>>275437823This is just a regurgitation of (>>275435947). The central point is the same and has already been addressed in (>>275436096). When people say you are wrong about what and how they think, and you refuse to believe them, generally, this is where discussion fizzles out due to logistical reasons (telepathy doesn't exist, so providing evidence is practically impossible).But I'll say this: when you watched the anime adaptation of OPM, or any other manga, did you expect the story beats to be completely different? What you say about the webcomic applies just as much to the manga. Are fans of the manga adaptation silly, just because they wanted a 1-to-1 adaptation of their favourite manga in animated format?>However generally people hate changeUntrue. Look at House of the Dragon.People enjoyed the changes made to King Viserys, even though he was in practice a different character from the book's version of him.Because he was a GOOD change.People like GOOD changes, because they are good. People dislike BAD changes, because they are bad. And when it is a change, this bad thing becomes worse: it was an AVOIDABLE bad thing.
>>275413393Kek
Smurf won
>>275412897>i need to rush this chapter to meet the deadline!>oh no that chapter was shit i need to redo it so i dont taint the name of ONE sensei's genius story!repeat for the last 5 yearsbasically murata is a fucking moron
>>275416058Murata undid a whole year of progress the first time, and another year the second. It's important to note he took multiple breaks during this whole period however, like the one month break halfway through 2024.
>>275413506MA arc was a mistakeit should have been like 80% shorter.but murata just couldnt fucking help himself
>>275417832And a new VERSUS chapter is right around the corner too with art better than modern OPM's.>>275417920>I just can't comprehend about the silence surrounding one of the biggest trainwrecks in manga history.It even applies to 4chan too to some extent. You'd think the fucking up of Saitama vs Awakened Garou would have unleashed a flood in here. But nope.
>>275437743based Inagaki if sothere's nothing worse than an incompetent person that thinks they're competent
>>275426657>>275413153WAITSOTHE WHOLE NINJA ARC WHICH ALREADY HAD MULTIPLE REDRAWS IN IT IS NOW BEING COMPLETELY RESET AND DONE ALL OVER AGAIN FROM SCRATCH?what the fuck is the point of this manga anymoredoes this happen in any other series?
>>275440789I can't think of any other big manga that does this on this scale.
>>275440789>does this happen in any other series?nopeany revisions (not counting stuff for volume releases) and wholesale arc remakes for other series happen during the creation process, not after the chapters have already been released
>>275418466>to think ONE is actually still writing this slopONE only works on the web comic.murata adapts ONE's notes but the art and all the text in the manga is done by murata.its funny when the cover of the manga is "story by ONE, art by murata" when almost all of the story is also done by murata.
>>275413713you dont understand how the english language works. the use of "they" in this context is perfectly reasonable.
>>275418601Even most powerscalers and waifuposters have turned on this for its inability to just keep marching forward. The scanlation team is straight up doing a strike because they're sick of translating chapters that get retconned out of existence anyway.
>>275418466It goes way beyond doublethink. It went way beyond doublethink years ago.
>>275412417Kek, 2024 has been erased from existence
I like it when Tatsumaki gets vored.
>>275438659I think by now it shouldn’t be a hobby when the manga is suffering from the hiatus and Murata will catch up eventually because without the redraws he would’ve reached the current point in just a couple of months
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>>275430355>>275440989A small part of me wishes that the MA Arc had more redraws considering its the only thing that seems to trigger a mild crisis in the people who somehow think the manga adaptation is still great.
>>275441050The manga already has enough original content to stand on its own two feet. It can fully break away from the webcomic and it'd might even be better because it is a half-assed existence in its current state, trying to both be its own thing and an adaptation.
>>275414122you should read the webcomic.
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>>275432608Maybe it’s because Murata didn’t butcher OPM S2 and Index S3 and One is writing the story. Yes after an entire decade you can change your mind to accommodate a different story you’re trying to tell
>>275428631>kicks to the moonThe scene didn't happen in the original webcomic, the manga's earlier flipbook chapters were personally a more impressive production even though they had to go because they were making things progress too slowly.>table flipping the groundWhat made it good was not that it depicted an awe-inducing spectacle of destruction, but a literal wall of black as a way to place the focus on disorientation and speed.ONE is bad at portraying destruction spreads and so he obviously won't do them often, but he still manages to communicate high ceilings of power quite well in spite of that, which is incredibly impressive in its own way.
>>275441288I've read ONE's other works, as have most other people in this thread.This goes way beyond "changing your mind to accommodate a different story".The webcomic is merely in a hiatus.The manga adaptation of OPM is in ruins.
>>275433914Tatsumaki acting deranged like that made no sense
>>275441399You mean her lifting the entire preschool into the sky?The heroes were shadier and more psychotic in the webcomic version, but considering her history as a child that was experimented on and then locked into solitary confinement for a brief period and THEN came face to face with a near death experience, and with nobody to guide her on how to use her powers, you can argue she came out much better than she ought to have. Same for Sonic and Flashy Flash too, honestly.
>>275436067Okay but let me ask you this why is there no 2020 or 2022 adaptation? Why did the manga stop once again? It’s almost as if being on a hiatus ruins the process of adapting the source material
>>275440700A completely adaption of the webcomic would’ve made the sales decline even more. That shit was far too quickly paced and he has to fill the runtime for the anime
One Punch Man? More like Multi Redraw Man
>All of the revisions were murata-sensei's ideas
>>275441574nice strawmani never said anything about the webcomic.
>>275441519You did not answer: why only the Ninja Arc? Why not redraw the Psychic Sisters arc if the goal is what you claim it is?>It’s almost as if being on a hiatus ruins the process of adapting the source materialThe source material that was never meant to have a regular update schedule, because it was explicitly and openly from the start something that ONE does on a whim and not a thing that was ever meant to become officially published? Murata only has himself to blame for latching his cart to a zebra instead of a horse. Murata approached ONE, not the other way around.Enough with the insinuations that this is somehow the best case scenario for the manga. We are all waiting for the webcomic. If you'd may, tell me what you enjoyed about the manga's take on Blast. The only reason anybody would be defending this would be in the instance where they think the manga is good, which is becoming an increasingly rare opinion even in more mainstream forums.
>>275431393going to take the opportunity of an active OPM thread to post my autistic headcanon for webcomic blast. i think he's gonna be like metroman from megamind. he has all the same amazing power as saitama, but unlike saitama he truly became disillusioned with hero work and quit to work an office job.when he says to tatsumaki when he rescues her "i'm just a part time hero. i have a real job too" it seemed to imply that he at that point was beginning to feel like hero work was childish, and had gotten a so called "real" job in an office or something.i think he would make a great foil to saitama. saitama, for all of his complaining about feeling empty and not enjoying fights anymore, is still a hero. he still goes out and kills monsters and saves people. he ultimately has a hero's heart, even if he's terminally disconnected from the world by his enormous strength.i think they could have a great moment between them where saitama points out blast's cowardice and selfishness, but in his classic who cares saitama fashion.i don't think there's anything to be gained from a team up or anything between them, as ultimately all team ups with saitama are necessarily meaningless. infinity plus anything is still infinity, even another infinity. but i don't think ONE would go for a team up either way, as that's more murata's autistic purview
>>275412417I don’t even know what the fuck is going on anymore.
the arc was dogshit, it needed to be redrawn sadly. completely destroyed Blast's character.
Truthfully I thought the ninja arc was kinda boring even in the webcomic, probably the only webcomic arc I'd skip most of on a re-read.
>>275441656To chime in on your point, people defending the redraws might as well wish the anime is completely different from the manga because a loyal adaptation to it will tank sales. People seem to overlook the anime when talking about OPM's adaptations, as if the arguments about the manga needing to be different somehow don't also apply to the anime.>>275441755This used to be a more popular prediction in the threads. It works perfectly. In fact, people have been long been wishing for this to be the case, so you're not alone in wishing Blast is just a guy with a job.>>275441818I don't have faith that this third attempt will be any better. We may be seeing a fourth in 2026 at this rate.>>275441927It comes right before the Amai Mask arc, and right after the Psychic Sisters arc, so it is a bit of the awkward middle child.But it being before the Amai Mask arc is a plausible reason for why Murata is delaying this, the guy despises Amai Mask and I can't imagine him being so willing to work with him for an entire arc.
>>275419156Why won’t he?
>>275442013if he has any sense left, he'll just have "that man" trashed by Saitama in a few chapters and move on.
>>275418601The only subversion opm ever did was with the mc, everything else is entirely as Shonen as possibleThey actually doubled down on the gag of Saitama beating op enemies easily in the action, Saitama is beating reality warpers casuallyPeople are way too attached to the cope writing one had to do to make up for his shit drawing ability, the garou fight was 90% dialogue, one even had to address concerns about garou being such a jobber compared to boros with some cope about skill
>>275442517>The only subversion opm ever did was with the mc, everything else is entirely as Shonen as possibleVery much an intentional choice from ONE. The contrast between how tryhard the side characters are and how aloof Saitama is.Garou being a jobber in the work where the protagonist easily wins his fights isn't a bad thing, it's part and parcel of what people signed up for. Saitama was just treating Garou as the kid causing a ruckus in the early morning, instead of someone who could relate to his issues to some extent like Boros does.There's more to art than just cool explosions. For all the talk about ONE being a bad artist, his action is incredibly legible and fluid and his scenes feel complete in spite of their surface-level sketchiness, which is not what you would normally expect from someone who never received formal training.
No fucking way the whole arc got redraw lmaoWell, read Rairairai guys, it’s a good story Recommended by ONE
>>275442013>People seem to overlook the anime when talking about OPM's adaptationsseason 1 is very faithful to the webcomicseason 2 is more faithful to the manga and it fucking sucksseason 3 is also going to be more faithful to the manga and is also going to fucking suck.we arent overlooking anything.
>>275441656You’re comparing the manga with the webcomic whether you want you wanted to or not
>>275442752I was about to call you a retarded shiller but this really got a rec by one lol
>>275442762I was agreeing with your main arguments, the bit about others overlooking the anime was referring to people defending the manga adaptation's more recent deviations from the standpoint of it being an adaptation without realising they are applying different standards to different adaptations.But Season 3 might also attract another variety of shitposting over Darkshine's redesign.>>275442843You're accusing people of thinking and doing things they didn't think and didn't do? But why?Do you think of the webcomic every time you read the manga? I don't think of the manga when I read the webcomic. This seems to be more of a self-report.>>275442859Ura Sunday is the same magazine ONE released Mob Psycho in, and also the unfathomable Kengan series by Sandro. He's likely friends with other authors from there, might be how he nabbed Tenkaichi's artist?
>murata got eyeshield 21 axedI didn't think I could hate him more than I already do, but holy fucking shit
>>275429244>Whats goes through Murata's broken mindEveryone loves me. I'm the reason people love Opm.
>>275443049>Darkshine's redesign.its a good changedarkshine is not blackhe is japanese who's skin turned black because of the bronzer he used to make his muscles stand out in body building competitions.black people in anime often have the thicker, lighter lips, so his old design was simply wrong.
>>275443592some nips have big lips you know
>>275443592But Japan doesn't exist in OPM, it's literally a different world.
>>275442752Hey i'm reading this, and it's peak
>>275436134>They want to read dragon ball again but drawn by Oda insteadThat would be bad. I don’t like Oda’s paneling.
>>275440789God and Blast killed the series.
>>275443784OPM apparently takes place in the future. The bonus chapter for the first volume explains that there was a big war that reshaped the continents, and all nations decided to join together to form the current society.
>>275443592So why did they keep the similar huge lips on Pig God?
https://cubari.moe/read/imgur/AE9rvwt/1/1/
>>275442752>>275444095just caught up to this at anon's recommendation. really really good, even if it is another chainsaw man clone
>>275445806Seems like it's going more webcomic route but blast/god shit is just getting inserted. Maybe, hopefully, as a side plot and then he still gets offscreened
I've moved beyond not caring and wrapped back around to genuinely pissed off at how bad this series got, but also at how fucking retarded the people keeping up with it after the trash that was MA are
>>275445806MUH HECKIN POWER SCALERINO!
>>275443049You’re clearly implying it in your post though
>>275445806the only good part of the chappy
>>275441465I mean trying to kill the Fubuki group but yeah she’s somewhat sane until that point
>>275441378The sales were declining and he decided to switch things up otherwise the fake Genos death scene wouldn’t have happened
>>275446223>even if it is another chainsaw man cloneAnd dropped before I even started.
>>275448269Even Murata’s coombait designs have degraded.
RETCONNED
>>275425248But they also come out really fucking slow, so the rewrites might be happening behind-the-scenes (where they belong)>>275426285If he's OCD enough to want a redraw, of course he'll want to be hands-on with it too, to get it "perfect" this time. The art's unlikely to match or exceed the previous version unless he's AT LEAST as involved as the first time around.
Are they going back to the old webcomic design now? I like the manga and don't mind the changes, but even I thought the void stuff was a little cheesy
>>275444095>peakpiss off broccoli head
>>275448269>I will be by your side as well in the year of the snakeAt the pace the last redraws went, she shouldn't even come out until the middle of 2026. Especially when you take into account that she doesn't even appear in the webcomic anymore.
Is there any point in reading the manga now? It got so many changes that its not one punchman anymore, its just shonenshit, "OH LOOK AT THIS NEW MISTERIOUS CHARACTER", "OH MY FRIEND IS DEAD, THIS IS SO SAD","JUST JOKING, NO ONE IS DEAD"
>>275432652Nah, she really doesn't carry anything.
>>275441613">written by one"fags in suicide watch.
I see that this thread has really gained traction compared to previous threads due to the shocking decision, although it still shows how dead the series is considering that the thread of a series that was previously so big is only getting this level of activity after something like this.
>>275441743Because the arc is getting close to the current one and there hasn’t been a new release in a year. You do know that in that timeframe having no redraws would put the manga in a hiatus right? But it’s ridiculous that you’re blaming Murata for trusting One yet you’re still complaining about the redraws when you already confirmed it’s One’s fault. And I don’t give a fuck about either version but I’d obviously prefer the superior artwork
>>275449066>changes & shonenshitThere's no point in reading it because a year's worth of chapters can be retconned on a whim. But no it should've wrapped up years ago in general, another couple of years and OPM will have spent more time as a manga everyone shits on than it did as a manga everyone praised which is about the saddest thing that can happen to any series that goes on too long.>>275449714I'd argue there's been nothing to talk about for years, that's mostly on ONE for his glacial as fuck webcomic releases. The MA had a lot people were hyped seeing about for years in advance, Neo Heroes not so much. A or Zaedats are no Black Sperm or Fuhrer Ugly.
>>275438659Speaking of which, the next chapter of Versus is tomorrow or the day after. How do you think the lawless will fare against Jachi?
>>275449913It's todsy anon, just use the thread search function
>>275431596Although I think he's fine for this story considering what it is about I can understand thinking he's boring or dull, but I don't see how he's even similar to Saitama.
>>275450086WTF the chapter was released 4 hours ago and I had no idea, no wonder this thread has become deader.
Webcomic chads won, the anime should just ignore de manga and follow the webcomic.
>>275431789>>275443382That had to have been post-Christmas-Bowl. The arc was kinda unnecessary, but it had potential if it hadn't started going too fast for all the teams/players it had set up.>>275435947Sounds like a job for AI desu.
>>275412897Redraw Man at his peak. This isn’t even his full power watch as he breaks his redraws into the 3rd year.
AUTORIZO A MURATA PARA QUE REDIBUJE MI MENTE
>murata has been excusing himself since 2013
>>275448854I'm already preferring the old design
>>275451475the old design was literally manga garou 2.0
>>275448269Great curves.
>>275451475That is the old design.
>>275441050How close is the manga to catching up?
>>275454462At a major redraw per year, it never will.
>>275432652Maybe if the sisters had more screen time they'd manage to save this sinking ship, but just getting covers won't cut it anymore.
I have no idea why people think ONE is involved in the manga nowadays when we see him write certified kino like Bug Ego.
>>275454715coping muratafags are trying to shift blame
Dont get how anyone would think one has any involvement in the manga at this point when something as simple as king slicing the apple joke was completely botched in the manga
>>275423570Old man of the underworld is decent, don't be a hater
>>275447512I wasn't the person who wrote (>>275441656) or (>>275440700).An offhand remark about how the MA arc - which was indeed the longest arc in the manga so far - should have been shorter has no correlation with the webcomic.>>275448385>Genos fake death sceneIs that your cut-off point for when the manga started to go awful? This is a baseless assumption of motives on your part. Neither ONE nor Murata are the cynical businessmen you describe them as for them to be so willing to just bend over and do this to their own works out of the desire to earn more money.The sales were declining precisely because there was a switch up. You cannot blame this entirely on Season 2. We are way beyond this.>>275449900You still didn't answer the question. Why the Ninja Arc? Why not start all the way back at the Psychic Sisters arc, and do two years at once instead of one year and then one year again?The answer is that the motive is not what you make it out to be. Murata does not do this because of a lack of webcomic content. You are the only person in the threads insinuating this.>You do know that in that timeframe having no redraws would put the manga in a hiatus right?A hiatus would be superior to what we are currently having, as I have said several times.>when you already confirmed it’s One’s faultHow and where have I confirmed it is solely ONE's fault?It is true that OPM the webcomic was never meant to be the officially published work Murata tried to transform it into. It should not follow the same schedule as the manga.The manga, which in fact, was not even always biweekly. It used to release a chapter every few months or so prior to the MA Arc.No editors would have ever allowed Murata to do what he is currently doing.>And I don’t give a fuck about either version but I’d obviously prefer the superior artworkSo you do care about what version you are reading.Even from a cursory glance the artwork in the manga has degraded greatly from what it used to be.
>>275450288The webcomic would be easier to adapt, for sure, but it's as likely as the anime deciding to do an Endless Eight of every Phoenix Man redraw.
>>275449714>>275449901Discussion is mostly centred around the redraws but not what actually happens in the chapters. It's a dire state of affairs even for modern OPM.
>>275444310I think the manga genuinely would have been much more stable if it just didn't have those two, even if the rest of the manga changes stay. Though it is worth mentioning that Sage Centipede is directly connected to God.
>>275454715>>275455790The gap is gigantic. People really need to read ONE's other works if they want to talk about his writing integrity.
>>275433933Ultimately the series will have a dedicated following no matter what, but I can't imagine being invested in a series of chapters that are always at risk of being basically deleted from existence.There has to be at least a few guys who buy the physical volumes to see their favourite spreads or pages and then just not find it because they have been redrawn without them knowing. It has to sting a little.
I only care about Sonic
wow this thread hit bump limit even tho it was just to shit on the current state of the manga lmao
>>275457439That's the only way to secure bump limit for Opm now.
This is actually depressing
I… I like the One Punch Man manga…
Fubuki
