Why was digimon never as popular as pokémon?
>>275568250
The animation that first seizes the market has the advantage of monopolizing the market.Digimon series and Yo-kai Watch series do not have the strength to compete with Pokemon series in the market.Macross series and Neon Genesis Evangelion do not have the strength to compete with Gundam series in the market.Love Live series and BanG Dream series do not have the strength to compete with Idolmaster series in the market.Mewkledreamy and Girls × Heroine series do not have the strength to compete with Precure series in the market.Aikatsu series does not have the strength to compete with Pretty Series in the market.
>>275568250it was too mature for kids to follow
>>275568250The games. Pokemon was simplistic and the multiplayer helped build huge communities for it.
Selector infected WIXOSS and Future Card Buddyfight also don't have the strength to compete with the Yu-Gi-Oh series in the market.Just like Toei Animation has existed for 70 years and is still the largest and most profitable animation studio in Japan, in the Japanese anime market, the earlier you mature, the stronger you will be.
>>275568250The game did really well. Why did Digimon not do as well? That's a dumb question. It's like asking "If Steve won the lottery, why hasn't Joe won the lottery?" The games were a lottery-winning event for Pokemon. They stuck gold and sold a million billions.
>>275568903Not exactly winning the lottery if one catered to casuals while the other made evolution lines a clusterfuck and lost progress every so often.
>>275568250Bandai Scamco
>>275568250I always thought that digimon was a cheap pokemon knockoff, no?
>>275569176it's not about comparing them, it's that comparing them is stupid.No one asks why every other game like Adventure Island II didn't sell millions and Pokemon green did. It just did. Digimon wasn't even a GB title.
>>275569310Digimon was tamagotchi for boys.
>>275568250Ghost Game deserve a second season
>>275570837why would they make a second season for the series that literally killed the franchise
>>275570905That's Frontier
>>275570905It lasted as long as it did because the toy it tried to sell was really popular.
>>275568250the Game Boy's success
>>275570977jobber
>>275571087The whole cast is a bunch of jobbers
>>275570837I never bothered with the original Digimon as a kid, but I fell in love with Ghost Game, I'm a sucker for spooky anime I guess. That being said, I think it explored its premise thoroughly enough and it didn't make real use of whatever plot it was pretending to have, so I don't think it really needs a second go; a movie would be nice though. Also jesus christ why are all of my screenshots just closeups of Jellymon and Ruri?
>>275568250Nintendo. That is why.
The games fed into the anime which fed into the toys. Digimon was a strange case where the base was a boy-oriented Tamagotchi, but Tamagotchi were already popular enough with kids overseas and the Game Boy had a ton of titles to go with it, so any market share Digimon had would be stunted regardless. The games were staggered, inconsistent, and mostly released for the WonderSwan. The anime had to do a lot more heavy lifting for the series as a whole as a result, so it could never reach its full potential overseas.
>>275571245You should give the other seasons a tryAlso GG was an episodic anime so the almost non existent plot doesn't matter much>Also jesus christ why are all of my screenshots just closeups of Jellymon and Ruri?It's a complete mystery
>>275571321Digimon Battle Spirit for the GBA is pretty fun but yeah the WonderSwan was a big mistake
>>275571424I know I tried a few episodes of the original in 23, but I dropped it for whatever reason; I probably had a lot of my plate at the time, because it still feels like something I want to watch.
>>275568415pretty much this,25 years later I can name you all the first 150 pokemon and what forms they turn into but I cant say the same for digimon because they go all over the fucking place
>>275568250>Why was digimon never as popular as pokémon?Maybe people don't remember this, but Digimon wasn't unpopular during the 90's and 00's. Pokemon created a high tide "that raised all ships" as the saying goes and just like Pokemon, children were watching the Digimon anime and buying the Digimon cards (I even had Digimon pajamas as a kid). The issue with Digimon, in my mind at least, is their video game franchise really failed to take off. The games were inconsistent, weird, obtuse, and not exactly 'kid friendly', "why do all my Digimon keep turning into poops???". The games also weren't on the 'designated school children console', the Nintendo Gameboy, so it was just a non-starter to begin with. Honestly, Digimon doesn't have terrible footing right now: people "know about" the anime, the games are available on the Switch and PC. I don't think Digimon is ever going to be "super popular", but it definitely has the potential to make more money now than it did in the past. People want Digimon - every time a person gets fed-up with Pokemon there's a potential Digimon customer made.
>still getting filtered by the evolution tree
>>275568250>>275568415fpbp. Over 25 years and the retards in charge still haven't figured it out
>>275571717>treeits a forest anon
>>275568250America completely botched it trying to make it appealling to a western audience. I mean just listen to this shit https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzUjL2nZx6EI would've immediately changed the channel if I heard that on the TV.
>>275570905>>275570977That would be Xros Wars.
>>275568250Pokemon is just a better "self insert" franchise which feeds into the games & anime.A Pokemon trainer:>Choses his starting Pokemon>Can form his Pokemon party however he choses>Competes against other trainers and can discuss strategies and team composition with friends>His Pokemon are pets that follow his comands (assuming required badge number)>Games have a consitent formula that build on the previousA Digimon tamer:>Has his Digimon chosen for him>Is "stuck" with the same Digimon line throughout the journey>There is noreal competition but rather the Trainer is going on a very JRPG adventure>His Digimon is more of a friend than pet but this means the Trainer is reduced to a cheerleader>Games have no formula meaning they re-invent themselves each time
>>275568250Basically this: >>275568587Even Palworld, with the success that it has, barely did a dent into Pokemon's market, and if they don't capitalize on it more, they will just be another Yokai Watch.Every other argument is either retarded or can be traced back to it monopolizing the market.
>>275571783>>275571798It's simpleIf your Digimon absorb mechanical data it will evolve into a machine and so on
I have just finished the first season of Xros Wars (the first 30 episodes). What I should expect from the second one?
We're not gonna talk about the wincest, right?
>>275568587>Macross series and Neon Genesis Evangelion do not have the strength to compete with Gundam series in the market.Neon Genesis Evangelion is more popular than Gundam these days, at least in the West.
>>275571846its actually ghost gameright now there isn't anything digimon related coming out or being produced
>>275572028Did Ghost Game perform that badly? I had the feeling it was slightly popular.
>>275568250Digimon is still a very popular franchise. Look at how popular to the JP opening Butter-fly is at karaokes and anisong rankings.It just doesn't have the same marketing that made Pokémon the massive multimedia franchise it is today.Pokémon is not just the anime, it's the games, the anime, manga lots of merchandise. When a new movie comes out, kids can get a rare Pokémon for their game if they buy a movie ticket. When a new gen comes out lots of hype is build up in the anime, magazines, the starters are designed to be easy to turn into a plushie, collaborations happen all over the place like manhole covers in Japan and Pokémon themed cafes. Meanwhile Digimon started out as tamagotchi for boys. It has some crazy designs but they dont always make for good merchandise.The anime and games don't always follow an overlapping lore, with each new entry being its own thing, with a few exceptions.
>>275571997Pure trash as i heardI feel sorry for Gumdramon for being stuck in such awful season tho
>>275572066Don't reply to that retardhe's a mental ill fuck that is always shitting up the Digimon general at /vg/
>>275568250Pokemon was for kids and Digimon was for kids that were embarrassed to be kids.
>>275568250Digimon never kept a "consistent" image.Pokemon games? You know what you're getting.Digimon games? It's a lottery.Pokemon anime? Ashslop for 25 years.Digimon anime? It's a lottery.And so on.
>>275568587>Love Live series and BanG Dream series do not have the strength to compete with Idolmaster series in the market.Nigga what?Love Live completely mogged IM@S during its peak.Bandori is currently extremely popular thanks to MyGo and Ave.IM@S had been reclining hard for years and it's only now that it is experiencing a resurgence thanks toe Gakumas.Not to say you don't have a point overall, it's extremely hard to do so, but it is possible.Yokai Watch is also another example, specially now that we know from the leaks that YW actually had TPC spooked and shook. They just got lucky that the problem resolved itself because Level 5 are utterly incompetent.>>275571917And yet Palworld had TPC shitting themselves in rage to the point we're getting this patent trolling suit.
>>275572220Pokemon is still aimed for kids while Digimon nowadays aim for teens/young adults
>>275572364>look it has BOOBS (covered up) and GUNS it's for MATURE, SOPHISTICATED people like me>not that BABY pokemon crapThank you for proving my point.
>>275572419keep crying pokefag
Now I understand why male tamer/female digimon pairs were prohibited for so long.
>>275572419Not that anon but he clearly said teens.Pokémon is meant to be family friendly. Especially Pikachu and Eevee and popular with kids.Digimon designs are more edgy and almost stereotypical rebellious teen phase, but in a charming way.
>>275572331>And yet Palworld had TPC shitting themselves in rage to the point we're getting this patent trolling suit.Anon, this literally doesn't matter. Do you remember when TPC won a 15 million dollars lawsuit against Zhongnan last year because of their mobile game? Yeah, me neither. And don't even imply that the outcome of the lawsuit even matters.All that matters is market monopolization. What Palworld did globally is still small compared to what Yokai Watch did, and Yokai Watch will soon fall into obscurity like many other franchises that tried to compete with Pokemon.
>>275572674Teens are kids, Mr. Polanski.
>>275568250Okay so I actually played the first Digimon World on a PlayStation. It had absolutely no correlation to the Digimon cartoon with Kari, Tai, TK and Sora. You were playing as some dude in a yellow coat and a winter fleece hat, it did have the OG mons like Agumon and Gabumon, I think Patamon (holy shit why the fuck do I still randomly remember these names I always used to be an ashnime guy) and the plant pot mon was there too. I can't recall the Boxing Cactus mon though.It was fun though. It was fun. Way comfier and enticing than a Pokemon game but also kinda harder? I think Digimon was always catered towards the "weirder smarter kids". That's the impression I remember from the first Digimon World game.
>>275568250It doesn't get said enough but it's literally just because Pokemon is attached to the successful console while Digimon either released as Third-Party on other consoles (meaning no official support from the owner) or were relegated to the Wonderswan which was a joke. Every kid in the 90's wanted the Gameboy Colour that came with a copy of Pokemon Yellow or the Gameboy Advance with a copy of Gold/Silver. There were hundreds of products like pic related while Digimon was just another box on the shelf.
>>275572715There is a difference between 6 year olds and 12 year olds.To us they are both kids but they are still different target demographics.
>>275571820Cope seethe dilate.Digimon, Digital Monsters, Digimon are the champions! Change into Digital Champions to save the Digital World!
>>275571820Wait until you see the Brazilian opening.
>>275568250same reason Monster Rancher isnt
>>275571820Here in brazil we got an adaptation of the adapted usa version lolBut its funny, I cant hear the original jp opening and think it would be as striking as the adapted american version, to translate the original song, like they did to many 80 and 90's anime in here.Overall I think it was a good choice, the american version is iconic.
>>275572331NTA, but it was never implied that it was impossible to compete, just that the advantage they have is huge.You are saying that their competitors fucked up, but those established franchises fucks up the entire time, and I even would say that they fuck up more often and bigger too. It's the embodiment of "too big to fail".
>>275572976imo the Italian is the best onehttps://youtu.be/ysfvtawJVEM?si=NQVuOaguba6hNtCE
>>275573013Now that you mention it, I think the ONLY dubbed anime where Americans actually translated the song from Japanese properly was Sailor Moon.The Japanese Digimon song...or the Japanese Pokemon song too, they'd sound extremely out of place in an English translation
>>275573007Now I think of it, a lot of those Mon franchises from the late 90 and early 2000's died off untill irrelevancy. For a brief period of time it looked like youkai watch was about to dethrone Pokémon, but that didn't last long.The fact that Digimon is still kicking and even getting a Godzilla collab recentlyis quite impressive.
>>275571997Just watch it for Nene.
>>275571820>>275572976This. It would be like having bozo green screened over it.https://youtu.be/HbHLrBg2o8MAlthough it seems they changed it at some point, because I found versions on youtube that did not have her green screened over it.
>>275568250Pokémon found the winning formula of anime, games and tcg and has rigidly stuck to it for near 30 years. For better or worse Digimon tended to experiment a lot more. That said I’m bored to tears by Pokémon now so I’ll gladly take Digimon’s approach of throwing stuff against a wall. The current tcg is also super fun so I’ve been mostly satisfied by that. Do wish they’d stop with the bad Adventure sequels that continue to show that they don’t know what made Adventure work in the first place.
>>275568250Because it's a real series with actual plot progression and character development, americans don't like that.
>>275572593My guess is that producers felt that giving girly Digimon to boys was uncool and lame. Like little boys would prefer to be partnered to the big, badass dinosaur than the flower fairy. Nowadays people have more open minds and sexy designs sell too..
>>275571932Alphamon is so fucking cool.Everything about him from his design to his lore appeal to my chuuni sensibilities.I love it so much.
>>275571424Kiyo and Angoramon are so lucky…
>>275575422Digimon in general is peak chuuni indulgence.
>>275569310Different evolution paths, ironically enough.Pokemon was Gachapon mixed with bug catching, where Digimon branched off from Tamagotchi.
>>275569436Digimon is on gameboy though I'm not hallucinating I have cartridges
>>275572593>>275575231We are also getting female Tamer/male Digimon in animeSomething that was already common on video games
Everything started at this moment.
>>275575717We kind of got female tamer with male Digimon before with Yolei and Hawkmon and Jeri and Leomon, but nothing with slight romantic undertones like Rui and Angoramon.
Digimon Survive anime when?
>>275575231As much as Xros Wars is seen as bad, it's kinda the ultimate masculine fantasy. You can get both the badass dinosaur as your main fighter and the cute sexy fairy as your wife. Win/win situation.
>>275575841Seriously what the fuck were they thinking with this episode?
>>275568250>>275568415Also not even the videogames had the same core gameplay. One was like a passive battle simulation like Monster Rancher, the sequal was a JRPG. None of the games were portable, unlike Pokemon. I think Digimon World 3 on the Playstation had less hours than Pokemon on Gameboy. Also the names of Digimon were, less reconizable to what they were.
>>275575717We’ve had the female human/male digi dynamic as early as 02 with Miyako and Hawkmon. Ruli and Angora are the first two that overtly feel like a couple though. >Episode that reveals Ruli’s ancestor fucked a yokai beastman. YJK
Maybe if you stopped trying to masturbate over animals in public people would approach the franchise
Ghost Game had alotsa weird fetish episodes.
>>275568250why would you want a big burly wo(man) when you can have a pocket-sized onahole that looks miles better?
>>275576088I like to think that that yokai was a WereGarurumon (Black)
>>275568250Nothing is. Even disney is less popular than pokemon.
>>275568614This. Pokemon isn't just an anime series, there's a whole franchise there and it all centers around the games. The games themselves are hugely popular and stay relevant by coming out every year (sure this negatively affects the quality but from a marketing and business standpoint that's irrelevant as long as it isn't negatively affecting sales). With the games comes a refresh in the anime so whoever didn't keep up with one gen can rejoin with the next (e.g. bw and xy). They also release a bunch of new manga to go with the new gen, and pokespe will start a new chapter. New mainline games means new spinoffs, and the TCG gets new content coming in too. Also I'm gonna be honest, digimon sucks. Every anime of it I've seen is formulaic as fuck. It overcomplicates what's supposed to be a kodomo series, too many characters in the first anime. The setting is also far more limited, it's either urban or the digiverse
>>275576764Pokemon anime is more formulaic than DigimonPKMN is literal shounen, Digimon storylines aren't young friendly.
>>275568415pokemon never had artistic vision like this
>>275577024If anything Digimon is more shonen-like than Pokemon.
>>275577024>PKMN is literal shounenThe Pokemon anime is straight-up for girls now, they're not even trying to hide it.
>>275568250The games.Digimon originally had the better anime series than Pokemon, but now after so many series and Adventure sequels of dubious quality, I’d say overall they’re as close as they’ve ever been. Anime quality-wise, of course.
>>275568587Yo-kai Watch could go against Pokemon at first, but they fumbled it up by milking the series too quickly.
>>275578227Not exactly, sometimes in Digimon the dog may stop being a dog altogether as soon as the adult stage.
I love Bastemon.
>>275580710Too much Cat, not enough Brown Skinned Human.
>>275578227>Firedog not turning into a furry bara fighting typeInaccurate
>>275580854Well it's literally based off the Egyptian Goddess of Cats, I'm not sure why you want it more human.
>>275576074>DW3 having less hour than PokemonIf you're catching literally every Pokemon maybe.
>>275573583Nene is pure blackmail/rapebait and I love it
I'll bite, why have there been more digimon threads lately? Thought the digimon fanbase mostly stuck to the /vg/ general
>>275580710Why couldn't it be me?
>>275572066No it's because it's owned by Bandai Namco who never invests their multi billion dollar revenue into any of their merch properties except Dragonball and Naruto. I mean fuck even ONE PIECE has been reduced to Musou slop and the last two games that weren't that were made one a shoestring budgetNow we're stuck waiting on a Story game that we've been waiting for since the same year as BotW released, and the directed of these games that breathed some life back into the franchise was fired for daring to want to make a good game because that costs money.
>>275581671*and the director
>>275568250Because after the OG Adventures Toei and Bandai absolutely FAILED to realize that Digimon's strongest side was the isekai-esque fantasy about bunch of kids being trapped in exotic, otherworldly, alien place full of weird monsters. And then the faux-futuristic 90s techcore aesthetics stopped being relevant so even that alien world was not good enough to bounce back.
>>275568250because of BAMCO
>>275581656Just IMAGINE
Tamers > all
>>275581671It's fucking weird how true this is. Recently got back into digimon because of the tcg and every long time fan of digimon in this tcg comes off more as an abused spouse. Bandai just abandons digimon for years at a time and wonders why it doesn't do as well.
>>275568250President Bush
>>275582351That cat has an ass too fat.
I was never into either anime really. I played the games and always liked the Pokemon games more. I just think Digimon never settled on a winning formula for their games. And Pokemon cards always made more sense to me than Digimon cards, though I did collect Digimon cards a bit too. The linear evolutions of Pokemon were also easier to understand as a kid, and you could have multiple Pokemon while you could only have one Digimon. I think I watched the Monster Rancher anime more than the Pokemon and Digimon anime. Might be interesting to go back and rewatch Monster Rancher since I remember basically nothing about it.
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>>275581432DarkKnightmon and the random Numemon gang who was just passing by are so lucky...
>>275578227I love this pic
>>275573277A lot of them are still around, just as Japanese only content or turned into mobile gacha. Non Japanese fans just stop giving a shit about those franchises after the first seasons/series.
>>275568250The #1 thing that always sold about this series were the tamagotchis.Not the gamesNot the animeNot the mangaNot the drama CDsNot the toysUnless you count the tamagotchis as toysIt's just those things. Everything else pales in comparison to that. But guess what? Even if you're ten years old and are the target market for them; if live in the west, the tamagotchis you're sold are inferior. Some of them have completely different 'mons installed. Some of them were barely functional, and some were outright falsely advertised, because you're not important to Bandai.All in all Digimon was never popular because despite how little of a fuck The Pokemon Company, Gamefreak, and Nintendo give, Bandai somehow manages to do even worse than all of them. They know what we want. They know what we will buy. They know what would sell well. Despite all of this, they do not fucking care. They have made it loud and clear that the world is a secondary market and selling bootlegged and broken crap to it is acceptable. They will never overtake Pokemon or even Yo-kai watch, which at least took the time to not sell broken and inferior products to everyone (Scarlet/Violet nonwithstanding)
>>275583243>It's just those things. Everything else pales in comparison to that. But guess what? Even if you're ten years old and are the target market for them; if live in the west, the tamagotchis you're sold are inferior. Some of them have completely different 'mons installed. Some of them were barely functional, and some were outright falsely advertised, because you're not important to Bandai.I feel bad for those people who ordered limited edition $200 vpets and got completely different digimon in them than what was even on the store page.I feel bad for them but they do deserve it for trusting scamdai.
>>275583193they made a medarot vampire survivors cloneIt made me want to die
>>275583243Digimon is such a cursed franchise at times I find weird it's still active, though I'm glad it's not dead.
>>275583243>Wow why doesn't this auto shop make money off replacement tires?>Because it stopped selling replacement tires.
>>275583243>They know what we want. They know what we will buy. They know what would sell well.Your picture is a perfect description of that.Imagine a Mimi and Palmon spin-off.
>>275583370digimon in a nutshell.and the ones that they did sell were only new for local customers while every other branch sold beat-up, used tires and claimed they were new.
>>275580710Too much brown bitch, not enough cat
>>275583366It's remarkable how much money they can still squeeze out of it.
>>275583623I like Adventure, but I am very tired of it.
I'm planning on watching the Adventure remake at some point. I haven't heard many good things about it other than it has good animation. Honestly, what did you think of it?
>>275583412>Imagine a Mimi and Palmon spin-off.We're not allowed to have such blessed things.
>>275583793Heavily afflicted by Coronamon and it shows. Mimi is the staff favourite.
>>275583793It has like 5 well animated episodes and the rest of it is trash across the board.
>>275568415fpbpI've never been into Digimon but whenever I see their evolution charts I get so fucking lost.
>>275583793It's a train wreck on so many levels.
>>275583793It's such a nothing. The OG Adventure was as cheap as a serialized kids cartoon could be, but everyone at school talked about it because it had action, it had suspense, it had drama, it had characters who would bareknuckle fight each other over petty kid squabbles while simultaneously being in life or death situations every episode. Somehow, through the magic of Bandai not caring what Toei was doing, they made gold that looked like straw. Yeah the remake has better production quality and the CG looks way better, it is so boring by comparison. I don't know why they felt the need to change events around, change plot points around, change characterizations around. Also they went too far in some directions like favoritism, some of the reasons people like some of the Adventure kids were because they weren't Tai and didn't have all of the screentime to themselves. Really, and this is probably true for the OG as well, they could have condensed Adventure down to a 2-cour action packed 24 episodes of kino and everyone would have been happy with it. The original itself even suffers from filler, but this turns it up to 11 because it cut too much out of Adventure's structure.
>>275583903I swear you people are the same kind of low attention span retards who think Kingdom Hearts is confusing.
>>275583793Repetitive spectacle that lacks the heart and soul of the original.
>>275583924>they could have condensed Adventure down to a 2-cour action packed 24 episodes of kino and everyone would have been happy with it.That's one of the stupidest things I've ever heard.
>>275568250The games. Digimon never settled on a style and then it settled on being a grind fest. >>275570977I'd go to her Frontier if you know what I mean.
>>275570977I liked Frontier
>>275583843>>275583857>>275583912>>275583924>>275583951Thank you all for your answers, kind anons. (especially anon #275583924 who gave the longest answer, you're based). I will still watch it after finishing Xros Wars to see if it's as bad as you say. The best way to have an opinion on something is experiencing it after all.
>>275578227This hasn't been accurate for decades, the pokémon should evolve into an anthropomorphic dog wearing a top hat or something
>>275583996>That's one of the stupidest things I've ever heardCare to explain why or is it just drive-by shitposting?
>>275583924>Really, and this is probably true for the OG as well, they could have condensed Adventure down to a 2-cour action packed 24 episodes of kino and everyone would have been happy with it. I like the filler, but shit like having to go back to the real world twice could have been compressed down.
>>275584143Same. With all it's flaws, it's the Digimon series I liked the most.
>>275583793I really, really fucking hate the fact that all Ultimate evolutions are giant mons in this one. I didn’t like it either in Savers, but this went full retarded with the concept.
>>275584147The resolve is admirable but I'd advice against watching hunters and colon back to back.
>>275584191What's the point of creating such a world if you're just going to rush through it in 2 cours without giving the show time to breathe?>>275584216The first time is literally one episode. You're being ridiculous.>>275584268Could be worse. Could be Hunters and tri. in succession.
>>275584268THIS
>>275572712If they didn't matter then why did they sue them then?Or do you really think it is a coincidence Pal got hit while all the countless literally who monster catching games who never caught fire like Pal didn't but Pal did? Get real.>What Palworld did globally is still small compared to what Yokai Watch did, and Yokai Watch will soon fall into obscurity like many other franchises that tried to compete with Pokemon.And I already mentioned how the YW problem solved itself, which is why they didn't do anything direct at the end of the day.Even so, as I also mentioned, we know for a fact that YW had them scared shitless. We even saw Pokemon doing it utmost to rip-off YW during all of Gen 7.
>>275584147Skipping Appmon? Shame.
>>275568250lost opportunity to make a AR mobile game tie in
>>275572419Digimon designs are expressive and lively while with Pokemon, vast majorities of them are just throwaway cartoon animals, or just downright bad. Like, you have stuff like Swellow or Wattrel or Surskit that are literally just dex fillers to say "we have a Pokemon of x animal. If I was a kid growing up in the Pokemon world and somebody gave me an Intelleon or a Quaquaval to be my best friend and adventuring buddy I would literally just release it stay home.And the evolution system complaint has always been one of the weirdest things Pokemon fans get hung up on. "There are no rigid rules other than that evolutions are generally thematic." I don't get how it's not liberating to have the idea that you can have creative and varied evolution lines that go in different directions instead of singular rigid lines. In Digimon you could have your Sobble or Quaxly turn into something that isn't an abomination.
>>275584360This remains the single Digimon anime I have never completed. And I probably never will.
>>275584291>What's the point of creating such a world if you're just going to rush through it in 2 cours without giving the show time to breathe?Because it's full of filler and meanders incessently. That's the danger of having a reboot that's over 60 episodes long when the original was 54 episodes. There was nothing in Adventure that needed MORE expounding upon than what the OG did. The OG was meandering around already, trying to find things to do with the characters while Tai did everything important like Izumi's cooking for multiple episodes. I challenge you to find what the reboot added that required more episodes. You can't find it. 24 episodes is more than enough for a show like Digimon. Even if you did make multiple episodes of Queen Mimi or chilling in the mansion taking a bath.
>>275584360I'd watch Appmon if it wasn't gay.
>>275584379It's a weird show. It starts so juvenile and ends with the human race raptured and thrown into a digital blender.
>>275584291>The first time is literally one episode. You're being ridiculous.why did it need more than one? trick question: because they needed to make a full year-long runtime to match Toei's other kid shows because they thought the gravy train would just keep rolling after adventure. then 02 happened.
>>275584476>>275584360how the fuck do you stand watching this for more than ten seconds? even for obnoxious kids shows, I drew the line at appmon
>>275584360I might give it a try because the design of the heroine is tailor made for my tastes, but right now is a low priority.
>>275584410Wouldn't be Digimon if it wasn't.
>>275584401>Because it's full of filler and meanders incessently.World building and character development is now "filler" and "meandering". You haven't got the attention span for anything longer than 24 episodes.>The OG was meandering around already, trying to find things to do with the characters while Tai did everything important like Izumi's cooking for multiple episodes. I genuinely do not recognise anything you have posted there. Did you actually watch Adventure?>I challenge you to find what the reboot added that required more episodes....you are aware that Colon is an entirely different story set in an entirely different universe to the original. The only thing they share are the characters' basic designs and partners.>>275584479>why did it need more than one? There are more kids than Taichi. Come on Anon, you obviously know that.>because they thought the gravy train would just keep rolling after adventure. then 02 happened.Digimon kept that slot for a further two years. It was the change FROM Adventure entirely which killed it.
>>275584574>World building and character development is now "filler" and "meandering". You haven't got the attention span for anything longer than 24 episodes.Let's not pretend that there isn't mountains and mountains of filler in Adventure. >I genuinely do not recognise anything you have posted there. Did you actually watch Adventure?Too many times. >...you are aware that Colon is an entirely different story set in an entirely different universe to the original. The only thing they share are the characters' basic designs and partners.What did it add? What was the point? Don't tell me you think it needed 60 episodes.
>>275584373Digimon on the bottom look cool but you have to raise a blue Agumon to get there and if you don't clean its shit up once, it becomes a pile of poop permanently until it dies and you start over.
>>275584641>Let's not pretend that there isn't mountains and mountains of filler in Adventure.You don't understand the term "filler". You can't even provide said "filler".>Too many times.So when did "Tai did everything important like Izumi's cooking for multiple episodes" happen? You are talking out of your ass.>What did it add? What was the point? Don't tell me you think it needed 60 episodes.I was addressing the argument in terms of Adventure, not Colon. Colon was an absolute mess, I'm not bothered with that.
>>275584502Astra is the worst character I've encountered in Digimon. Yes, I even rate non-entity Meiko higher.
>>275584502Desperation for Digimon content. I did have to skip through the AppLink ATTENTION PLEASE scenes before insanity set.But it was a better watch than Tri, which I dropped hard enough to ignore any and all future Adventure sequels.
>>275584689>You don't understand the term "filler". You can't even provide said "filler".I just listed two episodes of it and it's so irrelevant you don't even remember it. >"WereGarurumon's Diner" ("Oh Friend! WereGarurumon")Transliteration: "Tomo yo! WāGarurumon" (Japanese: 友よ! ワーガルルモン)>Matt finds Joe working at Digitamamon's diner to pay off his debt and agrees to help. DemiDevimon bribes Digitamamon to keep them while setting off accidents that makes Matt question Joe. However, once Digitamamon's scheme is exposed, they battle him with Tai and T.K. Joe sacrifices himself to save T.K., leading Matt to see Joe as a true friend and allowing Garurumon to Digivolve into WereGarurumon. After Digitamamon's defeat, the four children splits up into two groups and continue their search for the remaining DigiDestined.Oh it was Joe, not Izumi. See, it was so irrelevant I didn't remember it either.
Adventurefags kneel
>>275584825EXTREMELY overrated.
>>275584782You think character focus episodes in a series thats all about the characters, are filler?
>>275584782>I just listed two episodes of it and it's so irrelevant you don't even remember it. You can't blame me for not remembering an episode because you can't remember it correctly. No point discussing this with you if you're going to gaslight me.>debut of the second Perfect Digimon>"filler"You are genuinely retarded.
>>275584825Sequel when?
I like the new guy
>>275584841Not really, no.
>>275584867Oh is that why this episode was so important that you completely forgot the episode even aired to the point where I told you the synopsis of the episode and you said that you didn't think that was real + You are talking out of your ass?L + I accept your concession.>You are genuinely retarded.Try checking out a mirror if you want to see the perfect retard.
>>275584867>No point discussing this with you if you're going to gaslight me.Oh and this shit too "I'm the victim because I forgot something and that's your fault". No, you forgot an irrelevant episode that nobody remembers. But thanks for conceding that point even if you didn't mean to.
>>275584912Yes, really. Konaka makes good stuff but Tamers is the weakest of his work.
>>275584922>describe an episode incorrectly>"it's your fault you didn't remember it"Is this really your line of argument for removing 30 episodes from Adventure? You are absolutely laughable.>>275584970Nope, that was a perfect example of gaslighting. YOU forgot that the episode involved Yamato and Jou and instead claimed it was Taichi and Koushirou. I can't be blamed if you can't remember episodes correctly.
>>275585002How? Tamers is easily the best of the franchise and one of the best anime ever.
>>275571820YGO, Sailor Moon, and DBZ aren't exactly good localization and they made money. Digimon has more problems than dubs. Like the games being inconsistent and Frontier crashing the franchise with no survivors
>>275585042You should try watching more than 10 anime
>>275585021Oh are you going to claim I "gaslit" you because you didn't remember an episode now like the perpetual victim you are? >Is this really your line of argument for removing 30 episodes from Adventure?I described one episode, and you didn't remember it. Now you're coping, pulling every victim card until it's overdrawn over this one episodes.I'm not doing this shit with 30 other episodes. I could go down the list and do this all day. You're clearly not too bright and incredibly autistic and frankly I proved my point: For someone who claimed all of these episodes are important, you already forgot one of them and felt I was making it up. Stop being an idiot and just admit you messed up.
>>275585073>No argument
>>275585048bandai fumbling the bag constantly with digimon even back then didn't help
>>275584908soulmon has soul
>>275585042>How? Tamers is easily the best of the franchise and one of the best anime ever.I'll admit Tamers is one of the best of the franchise, but IMO it's no Serial Experiments Lain. He had to hold himself back for Toei and it shows.
>>275584908First Hassan, is that you?
Sex with Mei
>>275585048>YGO, Sailor Moon, and DBZ aren't exactly good localization and they made money. People really just want "good enough"Also Digimon's director, or whoever decided that EVERYONE SHOULD BE TALKING ALL OF THE TIME, that person should be shot.
>>275584884I still cannot believe they pulled this.
>>275585209The yapping in Adventure's dub did get a bit much.
>>275585073dont do it it creates mustard gas
>>275585085>gaslight: to badly mislead or deceive (someone) especially for one's own advantageYou've done precisely that to claim episode 23 is irrelevant. Not really sure how you can deny it. It would be like me claiming there's an episode where Sora gets Leomon killed while Taichi watches on.>I'm not doing this shit with 30 other episodes. I could go down the list and do this all day.You can't because you don't know the definition of "filler" and don't actually know how to cut the show down to 24 episodes. You've claimed an episode where the deuteragonist gets his second evolution is "filler". By that logic the entire run of Adventure is "filler". Yeah, it was just 54 episodes of aimless nothing designed to promote toys, there's no reason for anyone to remember it 26 years later.>Stop being an idiot and just admit you messed up.Self-awareness doesn't exist in your head, does it. But keep on gaslighting to convince yourself you won the argument.
>>275585288okbut you still forgot the episode and claimed I was lying when I described it and then claimed I was gaslighting you for pointing that out.I'll remember that cooking episode forever because even 10 year old me was asking "Why the fuck are we wasting our time with this shit?" it's my go-to response when people tell me that adventure was always good.
>>275585245They just did it every fucking time a character was off-screen. I guess they were worried kids would look away but even I just started tuning out the yapping eventually.I don't remember Dragon Ball or Sailor Moon being that way but I haven't watched the dubs for those in forever.
>>275585209for some reason saban did that to every adaptaionpower rangers was also riddled with characters constantly talking during battle, when the sentai equivalent didn't have that at all
>>275585318>but you still forgot the episode and claimed I was lying when I described it and then claimed I was gaslighting you for pointing that out.You still don't get it. You remembered the episode incorrectly. How is it anyone else's fault if someone else can't recall what you're going on about?
>>275585288>You can't because you don't know the definition of "filler" and don't actually know how to cut the show down to 24 episodes.anyone can do that easy, just don't go back to the real world a second time. fight miyotismon the first time.
>>275585365>You still don't get it.No, I get it, you're coping severely.I described an episode that's pretty obviously filler, it doesn't advance the plot, it doesn't do anything important, it's there to introduce the second Perfect digimon, but most of it is the definition of filling time. It could have been anywhere, and delivered the same premise. Your response is to instead get angry at me. Please reflect. >How is it anyone else's fault if someone else can't recall what you're going on about?It's called "WereGarurumon's Diner" and you didn't even remember that there was a cooking episode. Truthfully, I don't blame you because again: it's a pointless addition to the series. Also I'm shocked you're still defending colon when even you admit it's a mess and a half.
>>27558534290's Dragon Ball would do constant music playing all the time. Boomers really thought kids needed some sort of sound playing all the time.
>>275585358>for some reason saban did that to every adaptaionMaybe it makes sense if they're talking yiddish.
>>275585209Saban had the one move.>edit out "problematic" scenes>reuse already repetitive scenes for padding>add off-screen self-aware dialogue "it's like we've been walking forever!" or "let's all stand still and do nothing!"
>>275585459>90's Dragon Ball would do constant music playing all the timeOkay okay, but stop90's Dragon Ball music was fucking cool. Kid me was ecstatic when I heard their incredibly out of place metal shredding.
Best girl per season.>AdventureAngewomon>02Angewomon as well>TamersRika>FrontierRanamon>SaversLilamon>Xros WarsNene>AppmonEri>ColonMimi>Ghost GameCalamaramon
>>275585498>Adventure>Angewomon>02>AngewomonYou just like her for her tits.
>>275585523True, but her design in general is appealing.
Angewomon is the least sexy of the human woman cosplaymon
>>275585379>just don't go back to the real world a second time.There is no "second time" for the majority of the cast. They only visit the real world once. It is only Taichi who gets that "privilege".>>275585442>it doesn't advance the plot, it doesn't do anything important, it's there to introduce the second Perfect digimon, but-So it does advance the plot, and it does do something important. The episode synopsis you posted above even tells you that, but reading it is obviously far beyond your comprehension capabilities. Thanks for admitting you're an imbecile, although we knew that already. >It's called "WereGarurumon's Diner" and you didn't even remember that there was a cooking episodeBecause you claimed it was two other characters and I'm wondering when the fuck Taichi AND Koushirou were involved in a cooking episode. The only thing that even came close was in the Dark Masters arc when they had to get medicine for Hikari. I still find it astonishing you're blaming me because you fucked up in the first place. Hard to take responsibility when you have to blame everyone else for your failings, isn't it?>Also I'm shocked you're still defending colon when even you admit it's a mess and a half.You can't stop gaslighting, can you? Where's the defence of Colon in any of the posts in this sequence? I'm explicitly talking about the original series.
>>275585721OkBut again, you did forget. You only remembered when I specifically linked the episode, number, and the wiki entry so you could go read it yourself and go "Oh yeah, that happened." I didn't even remember the second Perfect happened in it because, as previously stated, it's a pointless irrelevant episode.Anyway, what's your favorite 02 episode?
02 had even more filler than adventure and that's impressive because it was rushed to fuck.
>>275585498Best girl per season.>AdventureMimi>02Miyako>TamersRika>Frontier Ew, fishfucker >SaversEhh...>Xros Nene>Appmondidn't watch lol>ColonMimi still da best>Ghost Game Meicrackmon in semen demon form of course
>>275585768>Anyway, what's your favorite 02 episode?NTA, but I always loved the WarGreymon vs BlackWarGreymon episode. Ever since BlackWarGreymon appeared I knew I wanted him to fight WarGreymon, and then Imperialdramon joining the fight was just the cherry on the top.
>>275585931>NTA, but I always loved the WarGreymon vs BlackWarGreymon episodeThat's my favorite too, it feels like 02 exists for this match-up.
>>275584261>Savers went full retardedIt sure did. And it's great.
>>275586024Built for snusnu
>>275568415It's not this>>275576074It is thisAlso the designs weren't cute enough.Pokemon appeals to girls and boys.I know there are cute digimon but overall digimon was always more edgey.Of course, I actually prefer digimon for this
>>275586024Savers went retarded the moment Masaru was able to punch Digimon the size of small buildings. And it was indeed based.
Removing the girlmons masks!
>>275586063Girlmons wearing mask is the best partdigimon and saint seiya led to my fetish for masked girls
>>275568676Yugioh is fucking ancient its from 2002 and Wixoss is from 2014 thats not even close to a logical comparison
>>275586097Bleach really should have more of those too
>>275586063You monster!
Digimon are just evolved digital pets in the end
Digimon lost.The lewd wars.
>>275585768>But again, you did forget.How can I forget something that never happened? All on you being clueless and failing to accept you were clueless.>I didn't even remember the second Perfect happened in it because, as previously stated, it's a pointless irrelevant episode.It isn't, but please keep deluding yourself into thinking it is because you forgot about it.
>>275586226couldnt compete against vaporeon
>>275586226I-Impossible!
>>275586226You sure?
>>275586226Based on the TCG art Ive seen, Digimon are the kings of coom designs for men or women.
>>275571703>Pokemon created a high tide "that raised all ships"This is an underrated aspect of Pokemania. Every anime that was remotely mainstream received a huge push in popularity alongside it. Countless DBZ fans today have been introduced to it by Pokemon's slipstream.
>>275585913>Ew, fishfuckerNothing wrong with fishes... Or frogs.
What's the most human looking Digjmon? The Sistermons?
>>275573065Has there ever been a time a late-comer surpassed and usurped the original?
Did they retcon YamatoxSora yet?
>>275581656>One lucky bastard is spending the time scratching her ears while she purrs in happiness
>>275587376No, but they are cursed to never be seen together ever again.
>>275587403GIWTWM
>>275587403Made me remember Shoutmon tried to use the Lilymon in the zone where he lived as a bribe to make Taiki stay with him as his general.
>>275587429Good
>>275568415This is why I love Digimon.
>>275585973The moments between Agumon and BlackWarGreymon were underrated. Wish they interacted more.
>>275587403Sounds hot.
>>275587376No, but I doubt they'd be able to animate their wedding because of the cursed stigma.
>>275586063They do that occasionally.There's a card for Ophanimon without her mask, at least.
>>275583623It went Beyond expectations.
I don't like human x digimon relationships even if they are humons like angewomon.I think a tamer mon should be 100% platonic.
>>275588958Char your newtype philosophy does not apply to digital data.
>>275588958For the most part I agree, but I do like seeing Bastemon crushing on Taiki, and Jellymon-sama deserves what she wants, and that's human cock.
>>275588958Human x Digimon is the purest form of love
>>275584410But that's the best part
>>275585913Mimi and Miyako were the source of my appreciation for ojou's and dork's respectively,Also I can't put into words the effect this frame had on my adolescent mind.
>>275589395ruli was such a bad character
>>275589719Ken is so lucky
>>275589719Miyako is lucky to be an annoying cunt otherwise she'd be forgotten like Iori.
>>275589395How can human men compete?
>>275589802You are a bad character
>>275589891By marrying female Digimons of course
>>275589831>3 kids and countingBased desu
>>275590080Ken is taking bribes. There's no way a cop could afford it.
>>275571932>>275575422We both know random stat breakdowns lead to random evolutions.
>>275583843Colon might have seen more success if they had cut the formalities and made it the Mimi show desu
>>275568415What I really like about this image is that you can tell the person who made it wasn't a Pokemonfag making fun of Digimon but a Digimonfag laughing at themselves over something they love. You can see exactly where they drew a direct parallel with something that people outside the fanbase really wouldn't get.
>>275586024I meant that Colon went full retarded with the Ultimates’ sizes, not Savers. Although MirageGaogamon was too big (the other two were fine).
>>275590096He's a Private Investigator and a walking Kamen Rider reference.Iori was the one who wanted to be a beat cop.
>>275590198>in an alternate universe Taichi and Yamato's VA got the coronamon>Colon becomes the Mimi Show
>>275590247Choose>Princess carried by Savers Rosemon>Ride Colon gigantic Rosemon
>>275575422I still think that Omegamon is better(though they do shill him too much), but one thing I'll give Alphamon is that his weapon being another digimon is fucking sick.
>>275590256Iori a cop, since when?The series director wanted Ken to join a Digimon police task force which inspires Iori to become a lawyer. The Beginning skipped all the good stuff and Iori is already working at a law firm right after high school.
>>275571820>America completely botched it trying to make it appealling to a western audience.Pokemon was westernized as well. Back when 4Kids dubbed it they would always edit out Japanese like Rice Balls or pretend they were something Americans were more familiar with.
>>275590736Who even holds a sandwich like that?
>>275590585If only the director+producer for Kizuna and Beginning weren't completely retarded. Why is it so hard to just make a movie with an older cast saving the world or going on an adventure without all the bullshit melodrama no one asked for?
>>275590982Brock after doing your mom lul
>>275584908I love it and Inboobs
RULI SUFFERING!!!
>>275591022There was no budget for an adventure or even a Digital World.
>>275591739She loves to get into dangerous situation just for the adrenaline rush so she deserve it
>>275571820But Digimon was appealing to western audience, it was a hit show on Fox Kids
>>275591739Little slut probably secretly loved the mushroom rape dungeon.
>>275592147She's really impure according with Kuzuhamonhttps://youtu.be/P1L9A2Zsqz8?si=QPWQPRRBaw49SRD2
>>275591739I don't normally find that sort of thing arousing but something about her suffering gets me.
My QUEEN!
>>275592846
>>275592846>>275592897wtf was Konaka smoking when he wrote this?
>>275593017Something indescribably terrible, no doubt. It was supposed to be an Adventure episode, too. At least it got him the Tamers job.
Did a digimon managed to get impregnated or impregnate a human though? Last time I heard, pokemon consistently racemixes with humans.
>>275593215i want to onow too tbqh
>>275593215No, Toei/Bandai isn't that desperate. Not yet anyway.
>>275592846was he wrong? besides the part that he's not her brother
>>275590445Being the chuuni that I am a sucker bkack knights and the gold highlight make him swanky as fuck.Also his lore is also chuuni as all hell with him being the super secret royal knight that is an enigma even amongst the royal knights themselves and gets the chuuni ass title the lord of the empty seat because of that.With his role being to show up and fix shit when everything is really fucked and/or keep the royal knights in check when they start acting crazy.Shit is basically honey to a bee for chuuni like me, but it's also kinda funny that his role basically boils down to being the RK's part time tard wrangler for when the other knights deus vult too hard.Also ouryuuken is indeed cool.It's a pretty unique design for a sword and there isn't a single mecha that doesn't look cool with wings.
>>275591651Thought this was lab for a sec.
>>275593631>SwordIsn't it an axe?
The digimon movie is so sick lol
>>275594336I mean ouryuken literally means king dragon sword, but I am a dekinai so maybe 剣 can refer to any bladed weapon.
>>275585494My man.
>>275568415>>275571783>>275583903ZOOMA LOOMA BOOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Probably born after 2000's, tamagachi's were all the rage in the 90's. Also with pokemon, the dex is shat up by rubbish pokemon. There were animated sprites and new models each console cycle unlike pokemonN64 MODELS ON THE FUCKING WII!!!!!!! IF ANYONE ELSE TRIED THAT SHIT PEOPLE WOULD BE ASKING FOR HEADS ON PIKES!!!!!!https://youtu.be/ID9uirpS1Ag?t=46>>275568250Half of the Games weren't imported to the west >all of the wonderswan ones involving the show>the game that taught the tgc rules overall>pokemon got here first>>275571997High stakes battles, banging OST inserts and character progression from the second. Disappointment and self insertionism from the third.
>>275593536He wasn't wrong Kari was made for BDC (Big Divermon Cock)
>>275572068>Look at how popular to the JP opening Butter-fly is at karaokes and anisong rankings.That's because it's a fucking banger first and foremost.
>>275594474I don't mean what the name or lore calls it.It's literally, visually a battle axe.
>>275572593What season, what character is this red furry from?Last time i saw a sexy digimon it was still renamon.
>>275572593What stage has the Liz Digimon reached?
>>275595287Only Adult so far. The next stages were teased months ago, so maybe in a few more months we'll actually see them.
>>275595349Liz decided she's been snubbed by FGO long enough I suppose
digimon designs are a lot busier on the eyes whereas pokemon designs are pretty simple
>>275590198Yes.
Why is Mimi so perfect?
>>275588958The future is now, old man.
>>275590080Abebros, we won.
>>275584825But Adventure was better.The only thing that Tamers had was furfag boost and LE EPIC EDGY STORY ABOUT LE DEPRESSION AND SADNESS AND DEATH AND OHMYGODISTHATDIGIMONDEVOURINGCOMPUTERPROGRAMPOWEREDBYMENTALLYABUSINGLITTLEGIRL?!
>>275588792To this day I have no idea how to articulate how visceral this scene is without sounding like a retarded schizo.
>>27559678202 was a mistake
>>275590445I still consider his dub localization to be superior,>Omnimon>SUPREME CANNON>TRANSCENDENT SWORDJust rolls off the tongue so much better while carrying weight vs.>Omegamon>Garuru Cannon >Grey Sword
>>275568250bandai and toei shat the bed in early 2000s.DB was so successful in 90's so they thought the old market trick still gonna work in 2000s.Turns out shitty rap op and 4kids dialogue kill all their new series in the west. wanpiss, digimon, doremi, etc, you name it.
>>275596853>the localization killed digimonThe fuck is with this meme?
Pokémon are sexier
>>275589719>pelvic creasesAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
I came here specifically for the pornographic images of digimon where are the pornographic images of digimon?
>>275596919>proceed to post off model trash>>275597240This is a blue board Anon we can't do that
>>275596676Impmon/Beelzemon also helped making Tamers popular.
>>275568250Not enough sexy monsters
>>275574500I loved this shit. I got home from school and raced to the tv so I wouldn't miss it for anything
Pokémon dance: https://youtu.be/4KOq3aGCIYwDigimon dance: https://youtu.be/z_1xN_ztOI8?&t=18
>>275598140That's just a lie.
>>275590245ThisIt gets too many things right to not be made by a fan
Please remember to read Digimon Liberator! New chapter out this Thursday!https://digimoncard.com/digimon_liberator/en/comic/Please also check out Digimon Comic vol 2 if you haven't already! Volume 3 is out either this weekend or next week!https://digimon.net/digimoncomic/en/
X Antibodies are cool and I will die on that hill
>>275586352Yeah, in a world without Pokémon there's a good chance we wouldn't've gotten things like Monster Rancher or Medabots to watch on Saturday mornings
>>275599064Yes but as a side effect anything remotely similar gets passed off as a clone and anything that DOES differentiate it is ignored
>>275590245It's a great pic. The more I stare, the more I chuckle at how accurate it is.
>>275573277Post Godzilla collabI only know of the Monster Rancher one recently
>>275599327https://youtu.be/XyjDr-v8Fhs
>>275568250cheap knockoff
>>275575873After the Re:Arise anime
>>275596676Can't agree for the simple reason that they gave the Digimon actual personalities and character arcs.Lets be frank, the digimon in adventure were interchangeable and barely emoted. They sure as shit didn't have an actual arc to their character, they're the same at the start as they are by final frame far and wide. It was always the digidestined who had to learn some mild lesson in order to use their digivice, or their crest, often with the digimon in question already exhibiting the right trait long before it happens. Biyomon was probably the worst offender of this, all she did was the exact same thing she's been doing since episode 1, and Sora treated it like some massive revelation.On the flipside, we have actual character conflict with the digimon in Tamers. Renamon wonders if Rika's even worth bothering with, since she only wanted power from the very start, and when Rika abandons her she almost decides to go with the Devas because of it. But she has an actual emotional moment and grows as a character, something that'll eventually carry on to her saving Impmon at the very end of the Digiworld portion. Guilmon has to actually grow to understand stuff outside of his simple mindset. Even Antylomon has to learn that humans aren't as messed up as she thought they were. Sure, Marineangemon and Andromon got shafted in this regard, no argument there, but we still got Impmon's full on start to end of show arc, there was development, changes differences. And obviously this meant the humans also had a whole bunch of character development, but what's distinct is it made the digimon get to have their own, instead of just being kind of there when it happens.Adventure just didn't give the actual selling point, the digimon, time to be themselves.
>>275598741No lie detected.
>>275584321You keep trying to attach strong emotions to TPC as if it's an emotional human being, and not just a meeting room with geezers finding out how to increase their next quarters report. What scares them is the big investors shifting, and that was a possibility with Yokai Watch, but not with Palworld.Think of how they send cease and desist letters to a shitton of pokeclones, do you think they are ""shitting themselves to sleep crying every night in a temper tantrum"" because of every poke clone that comes out? Get real.TPC files dozens and dozens of lawsuits every year, Palworld is just another one.
>>275571820>I would've immediately changed the channel if I heard that on the TV.Because you're a zoomer and wasn't alive back then when repetitive beats and rap was at it's peak late 90's, shit like eminem was super popular with kids. Something as whimsical and light-beated like the original OP would have been called faggotry. A song about fucking love as opening for a boys show? lmao! Gay!
>>275568250Westerners are more likely to accuse unrelated things with a vaguely similiar concept as copying.90% of kids back when pokemon came out just ignored digimon completely, calling it a rip-off copycat. There was this nigger at school who thought digimon could only say their name. This was your average low-IQ western kid, that's why there was no chance of it getting a popular western view.>>275568587Brainlet take where most of these are wrong.Your problem is you think just because one thing is at the top doesn't mean other shit can't complete. This is factually wrong.Using your logic, Nintendo better not release pokemon! The tamagochi market is too monopolizing with how many clones and spinoffs other companies are making! Pokemon has no chance to break into that market run by Tamagochi! oh, wait.
>>275599860Liar.
Wait a second...how did this happen?
>>275583793I honestly believe there's a good show buried in it
>>275584401You make it sound like Adventure and Colon had remotely similar plotsThey don't
>>275601195To be fair there was a lot of production problems along with the pandemic just happening. The lockdowns forced a lot of studios to delay and even change their shows. Who knows what Adventure remake was going to turn out.
>>275568587>Digimon series and Yo-kai Watch series do not have the strength to compete with Pokemon series in the market.Yokai Watch can't. It's way too childish so it's not even adjacent to the soft shounen style toyetic animes usually have.Digimon's Adventure anime series still goes strong.Really they should just properly adapt the first Digimon World game into an anime with ashnime tier deviation so it'd be fun to watch and remake the first Digimon World for a new console. PS5 or whatever.>Macross series and Neon Genesis Evangelion do not have the strength to compete with Gundam series in the market.I think Neon Genesis Evangelion massively outsells both Macross and Gundam.>Love Live series and BanG Dream series do not have the strength to compete with Idolmaster series in the market.Not sure since I don't have the numbers but I think all three are fairly and evenly popular. >Mewkledreamy and Girls × Heroine series do not have the strength to compete with Precure series in the market.No idea what any of this crap is. Sailor Moon is the real Mahou Shoujo goat anyways.>Aikatsu series does not have the strength to compete with Pretty Series in the marketSame as post above
>>275584908I've loved every new Digimon since the franchise soft rebooted in 2019
>>275587669Agumon in 02>can carry on a day long conversation about the nature of one's soulAgumon in everything since TRI>TAICHI I'M HUNGRY
>>275568250cause it's more based
>>275568250Digimon doesn't have as much universal appeal, it doesn't help that it came out after Pokémon, so many people in the West who only look at things from a surface level saw it as a rip-off.
>>2755968534Kids tier localization didn't stop shows like Pokemon, Yugioh, Sailor Moon & Dragon Ball from being successful in the West.
>>275599794That comes simply from having different writing objectivesThe Adventure partners are foils or compliments to the kid's characters to facilitate their growthAnd did the show really need to have 16 character arcs?
>>275602191No, it comes having better writing.>Foils or compliments to their characters to facilitate their growth.Same as in Tamers, except in Tamers, the Digimon are actual characters. >Gabumon is apparently just a-okay with abandoning his friends because Matt said so, his opinions on the matter are apparently not even up for debate and there's no point where he second guesses his choices or implies he might want to go back to them. You'd think a guy who was seemingly friendly with all of them would at least have some self doubts not related to how Matt's feeling about things, but nope.>Gomamon likewise just goes along with Joe being an absolute tard without even a care about it. Never gets angry at him, doesn't even react half the time.>Palmon is literally treated as a prop by mimi and at no point does she have any opinion on this. Does she like it? Does she wish Mimi treated her more seriously? Who knows! She doesn't seem to. She doesn't even get to be a part of the emotional thing when she gets her ultra, she's literally just laying there.They don't have character growth
>>275602506Yeah, they're static. I understand that.I also understand that that's fine.But it isn't a failing of the writing because it wasn't an objective
>>275602506>>Palmon is literally treated as a prop by mimi and at no point does she have any opinion on this. Does she like it? Does she wish Mimi treated her more seriously? Who knows! She doesn't seem to.Episode 25.
>>275602506>anon doesn't understand what being supportive is
>>275603573>>275603466>>275602828There's a difference between being static and being badly written. The Adventure Digimon are completely flat props with very little personality, autonomy, and no character arcs.
>>275603515The Medabots shirts makes me chuckle every time.
Girlfriends.
>>275598850thoughts on the liberator's cast evolines?
>>275604823Pretty coolMaybe I'll read Liberator
>>275601288They could have cut down on Colon by a BUNCH and not miss a damn thing, let's not kid ourselves.
>>275601802stop trying to fuck a frog>>275602017Saban localization is a level below even that, not to mention Saban killed every single thing he laid his hands on because he was such a greedy israelite that he would immediately run anything he got his hands on into the ground because it worked once (one time) with Power Rangers
Based lesbianism.
>>275584538Idk why this made me hard as a kid. Something about making a massive sacrifice with your best friend.
>>275604823Haven't actually seen Liberator Vemmon yet and I'm excited to officially see Elizamon's Ultimate and Mega stage
>>275604823left to right:>meh>good>still waiting>KINO>KINO>KINO>KINO>OMEGAAAAAAAAAA>KINO>meh>KINO>KINO>KINO>still waiting
>>275605020most lesbian relationships are violent like theirs
>>275606015>LadyDevimon's arm is too long to hold hands
>>275606487fingering lenght
>>275606487
>>275594774Meicrackmon is from infamous trainwreck Digimon Tri. She also was a pretty alright MotW in a much better show called Digimon Ghost Game
>>275606015>Ladydevimon wearing Angewomon's ribbon as a scarfCUTE!
>>275604922What does Colon's plot have to do with the original Adventure season?
>>275577270Weird way to spell schizophrenia
>>275604980Digimon's dub is just Ocean DBZ that acknowledges death and Japan exist (somewhat). >but muh meme dialog!!1!!!No one with standards cares about trash like Apocalymon and Digimon the Movie got redubbed. >Muh music1!!!!1You have a point, but you faggots are so insufferable I'm just gonna oppose you outta spite by saying Frontier's dub OP is superior to Fire in every sense of the word.
>>275604823Glad they finally made a Dimetrodon Digimon.
>>275606015mimimimimi
>>275602017You're seriously devaluing how fucking abominable 4kids localization was if you think Sailor Moon and DB had the same treatment as YGO or even One Piece.
>>275604823Wait they gave Impmon a Dragon line?
>>275604823Wow they gave Evos to classic mons that didn't have any or had ones that weren't all that great?
God, I love Digigirls.
>>275573583Pretty much. Also, she gets boobs in the sequel.
>>275609465Digimon have better stories than Pokemon,but Pokegirls are far better
>>275609619Mimi exists.
>>275609619I like both personally.
>>275604980>stop trying to fuck a frogIf frogs looked like this,I wouldn't do anything else
>>275608168DiC Sailor Moon is pretty bad outside the OST. Same goes for HFIL, grandma Freeza, "Ally to good, nightmare to you!", and taking till the Buu Saga for Vegeta to have a tolerable voice. The Shadow Realm, Invisible guns, and generic megalomaniac Marik aren't much different from that brand of awful translation.
>>275601802What a lucky guy.
>>275610104>Shadow RealmIt's ironic that by trying to censor death they arguably created a worse outcome of being trapped for eternity in a realm of darkness.
>>275609561Literally the only reason to watch Hunters.
>>275601802Digimon don't even have working vaginas in most continuities.
>>275609619There’s no pokegirl that comes anywhere close to Mimi, Ruki or Ruli.
>>275608242Yesit's a reference to Takato having a Impmon during Tamers' planing before they gave him a Guilmon
>>275610448And neither Ruki nor Ruli come close to Mimi.
>>275610887It's a shame that Mimi was never a main character anywhere but in the hearts of a small number of dwindling fans.
>>275577024>Pokemon is shounen>Not kodomo at bestLMAO why are Poketards this delusional?
>>275572021>at least in the West.Exactly, that means fuck all. The ancillary gaijin market doesn't hold the equivalence of the Japanese market.
>>275571917>Even Palworld, with the success that it has, barely did a dent into Pokemon's marketBecause Pokemon (the most financially successful franchise in the world btw) is suing them while simultaneously threatening to blacklist celebrities or media outlets that mention them. This is not the same situation as Yokai Watch silently fading away.
>>275612670It does when the Yen is doing dogshit.
>>275612805>suing themTPC files dozens of lawsuits every year.>publisher blacklists people and media outlets who says badly about their game, or promotes their competitionIs this supposed to be new information?
>>275610448>>275610887Quite honestly I never got the hype with Mimi. At least Ruli is a fetish magnet.
>>275572593
>>275614588Oh, maybe that's why it evolves into a waifumon later on, she's legit based on Elizabeth Bathory.
>>275604823>>275610744Man I always love the little details they put on digimon designs. Even after all these years they got it. Non fans will just see tacky monsters but if you really take the time to look at every part or piece of a digimon you can really see a lot of them have some really smart cheekyness to their designs.
>>275614671Eliza from Elizabethean on account of its dress sense and frills, and as a combination of Eri(襟 frill) and Lizard
>>275615146Oh, very nice reference naming then.
>>275609465Same.
>>275604823Some of the bigger evos look like downgrades. Bakemon's adult form should be their perfect form
>>275609619The Japanese versions of the first 3 Pokemon movies alone beat the shit out of any story Digimon has ever made.
>>275615343Who is the semen demon in front of Sora
>>275615343The one blonde I assume is from Young Hunters, but the blonde in the back I'm so close to recognizing it's driving me bananasIs she from Appmon?
>>275616199One on the left is Masaru's sister from Savers
>>275616199I think it's the sister of Masaru from Savers.
>>275614588Stupid lizard.
>>275616254>>275616265And the smaller one?
>>275616199The one on the right is Ai from Tamers, one of Impmon's partners.>>275616240The other blonde is Ai from Appmon.
>>275613873She's fun.
>>275606015>>275606487
>>275595349Damn, was hoping it'd be more scaly than that. I don't think we have a single dragon lady mon so far, which feels weird?
>>275589899>Lots of fetish art >None focuses on her nice curves but is based on torture insteadCursed gal
>>275617260>Art is all fetish shit or cute Angoramon shippingThe duality of man
>>275617260she was a bad character worse than sora
>>275617759Let's not say things we can't take back
>>275617921>no personality>always used as damsel in distress the writing team really hated her
>>275618155Yeah, that's Sora alright
>>275576382Is there a logical reason why they're not fucking ever night?
>>275618433It's a show for kids Anon
>>275618155>>always used as damsel in distressThe GG trio constantly rotate between saving each other. Ruli and Jellymon saved the rest from freezing to death one time.
>>275616692Magnadramon
>>275618623This. If anything, Kiyoshiro is the damsel in distress of the show.
>>275618799Chuuni is absolutely brilliant.
>>275618623>that time Ruli single-handedly defeated a powerful reality warping entity
>>275618607Well yes they must had all the sex off screen then right?
>>275619174Of course not, having sex all night with your Digimon partner is wrong and immoral, why someone would do such thing?
Angle is belong to devil
>>275619509Ruli takes bunny dong 24/7/365.25
>>275568250Probably partly due to computers not being a standard household item back then so a large portion of the population couldn't relate to getting sucked in to this "computer thing that they don't have"
>>275568250>dogshit or edgy designs >no competitiveness or memorable goals >barely any cute designs >barely any sexy human girls >it’s formula is nowhere near as engaging as Pokémon’s>anime and games are trash in comparison to Pokemon’sThe only thing Digimon has over Pokemon is monster girl designs
>>275619850Lies and slander, Ruli's a good girl.
>>275616194debatable
>>275619970>barely any sexy human girlsWhy are you looking for that in a Komodo franchise?
>>275619970Pokefags I wouldn't be talking shit if I were you. The recent leaks reveal the reason why pokemon designs are so simple is because it'd take too long for GF to implant them in the games. They have this 2 year development cycle for their games so not enough time to draw up and model details. A lot of the scraped pokemon were digimon tier detailed. Pokemon has simple designs because Gamefreak can't be bothered to do anything too flashy. (Also why the fuck is archive down?)
>>275619970Digimon Tamers destroys the entire Pokémon series.
>>275613873She's cute and is basically the only Adventure 1999 girl who has a character. Hikari is a plot device and Sora is boring
>>275616194Movie 1's lame deus ex machina ending and Movie 2 being a nothingburger says otherwise.
>>275617759She's more of a weird sidegrade. They are both boring characters only remembered for shipping mental illness; one of them being bunny bestiality>>275618433Because kids cartoon and not every dude blindly sticks their pingas in anything that moves
>>275568250I think it's the lack of GBA games. Those are really what elevated Pokemon. One downside though is evolving a Pokemon feels like an accomplishment for all the time you put into leveling up the character, whereas a Digimon will revert but I think if you played it like unlocking a new Super Saiyan form you might have a chance.
>>275622333I don't feel like the Digimon DS games or Cyber Sluts hit the satisfying formula for how evolving and degenerating your Digimon should feel to eventually unlock better evolutionsIt's always a chore in every game
>>275576382>The size of those thighsI hate it, I'm 27 going on 28, but I'm gradually liking this shit more and more, make a fluffy girl curvy enough and it overwrites my brain.I never used to be like this.
>>275568415Holy fuck, so true. Digimon has always had commercial potential, but making it convoluted like that didn't allow Digimon to become even more popular (but still, I don't believe it ever had a chance of beating Pokémon). I'm surprised it became popular at all once the original series ended.
Some high end Bug Catcher vs the modern equivalent of Seraphimon/Craniamon/Leopardmon
If my Ophanimon turned into a Lilithmon...is that on me or was she always like that?
>>275623227>Ophanimon turned into a LilithmonThat's not how it works
>>275623362Literally yes it does. Lilithmon is a FALLEN ANGLE digimon. Lilithmon is a Demon Lord Digimon. With the appearance of a woman, it is one of the "Seven Great Demon Lords", representing the Moon and the sin of Lust. It is thought that it was originally an Ophanimon, but it fell from heaven and eventually became known as the "Goddess of Darkness".
>>275623444What i mean is that Ophanimon can't evolve into a Lilithmon
>>275623589But she can. Its part of her lore, the games just wont let you do it for some reason.
>>275621565Are you fucking serious? Pokemon puts over 20 sluts every gen. And you’re saying this when Nene, Lilithmon, and Angewomon exists?
>>275623589It's Digimon, there's no such thing as "x can't evolve into y". Plus, a card from 2003 says otherwise.
>>275621618SM and DP mogs Tamers and it’s one arc people ever cared about
>>275575231You can have both though. On second thought maybe the producers are just gay since only one MC in the anime had a harem
>>275623718>SM and DP mogs Tamers By being rehashed shit from the years before? And predictable Team Rocket bullshit for a hundred episodes?
>>275602017>Sailor Moon & Dragon Ball90's series>yugiohit had meme unlike digimon>pokemonare you serious? I want to be very best op song alone btfo whatever bandai did in west market in early 2000s.
>>275622535Imagine burying your face in all that fur.
>>275624024Hyper cancerous shippers, a shit final boss only remembered for silly dub dialog, and Digimon The Movie are pretty meme tier. That and the convoluted evolution forests/Dog to Raptor to Fridge with a gatling gun.
>pokefags are still crying about Digimon evolution
>>275624867Not yugioh meme level tier.yugioh itself became meme show because card game taken seriously is ridiculous to begin with.
>>275625699Its even harder to take an inconsistent thing like Digimon seriously to be quite honest. Also post Kaiser 02, Digimon World 2, Frontier in general, and Digimon World 4/X are bigger marks against Digimon than token 90s - 00s foreign kids cartoon localization.
>>275623860SM barely has TR episodes DP had the best rivalry in komodo anime. What did Tamers have outside of Renamon?
>>275621600Those simple designs have thousands of artworks and doujins. Digimon doesn’t have shit despite having more time? Make it make sense
>>275625849>Impmon's entire arc >Guilmon's entire arc >Terriermon's entire arc >Takato's entire arc>Ruki's entire arc >Jiang's entire arc and family drama >Megidramon's appearance >Beelzebumon Blast Mode >The D-Reaper arc >Juri's trauma >Leomon's death >The lore behind the digital world I'm sorry. What does SM and DP have over Tamers?
>>275581656>He didn’t fuck her or get a female digipartnerIs he the most tragic Digimon protagonist?
>>275625973Jian is a boring ass nothingburger. Rest is good yeah
>>275626009I like how Hiro is the nicest and most pacifist MC of franchise yet he's a fatherless kid with survival and lockpicking skills
>>275568250Possible to like Pokémon without being a furry or a paedophile.
>>275590138Why post Kiss-shot Acerola-orion Heart-under-blade in Digimon thread?
>>275591028Fat Pikachu had so much soul
>>275625973>Ash’s new family dynamic >Lillie’s entire arc >Lusamine’s entire arc >Incineroar’s entire arc >Gladion’s entire arc >Guzma’s entire arc >Mallow’s entire arc >Poipole’s entire arc >Solgaleo’s entire arc >TR’s entire arc >Lycanroc’s entire arc >Hapu’s entire arc >Sophocle’s entire arc >The Alola League>The Aether arc >The Kanto arc>The Island arcs >Dia’s arc >The Z-Move Beam Clash Let’s not forget the superior animation quality, comic relief, and depressing episodes SM had. But go on kiddo tell me how they’re in the same tier when SM bodies every kodomo anime
>>275573114One of the English CCS dubs (Nelvana) translated Catch You Catch Me iirc
>>275626199Oh yeah and he had a shitty deadbeat dad with a serial killer pet. GG could’ve been so much better with competent writers
>>275625973>>Leomon's deathLol
>>275626444
>>275626444>>275627491
>>275626199Honestly, he's probably the one Tamer who'd actually be perfect for Taichi's stupid Digimon Diplomat job. That's basically all he does in Ghost Game.
>>275568250because digimon sucks. it doesn't matter fucking awesome digimon adventure was when they've been unable to surpass or improve on it in like 25 years
>>275570905
>>275568250Oh hey, Gost Ghaem! I actually watched ALL of it. (Mostly) good times.Would love a movie or a short mini-season 2 that expands on some of the revelations they had to cram into 10 minutes because they shot themselves in the foot by making all episodes self contained until the very end.
>>275572485I don't know where that is from, but saving the fuck out of it.
>>275571846>>275572028>>275584017Its actually the appmon one
>>275573102I heard a fair share of italian OPs, and sometimes they are better (like Yugioh 5DS and Ojamajo Doremi). This one is not better than Butterfly.
>>275618155Anime tropes really must have numbed your brain if you think Ruli has no character.
>>275584884>The only instance where the enemy won Why did he activates cancel culture?
>>275584884And then evil western pigs ruined everything.
Next anime series when?
>>275628988When Toei accepts the only way to save the anime is with a Mimi spin-off.
This picture is of an evolved cat.
>>275629133I see a pussy so it's believable
>>275629133A fucking downgrade if you ask me.
>>275618904I really hope said reality warping entity was testing her in his search for a truly strong willed person. Because if not, she won completely by luck. In which case the only way out would be for Gulusgammamon to decide enough is enough and it's time again to bail out everyone.
>>275629133A cat is fine too
>>275607265>updated autopsy report
>>275623362If evil, why HOT AS FUCK
