I'll be storytiming the manga, one complete case per day. Most cases are around 3-6 chapters long. Feel free to drop in at any time, since it's mostly episodic.Case 33: Holmes Enthusiasts MurderPrevious case:>>282314142
File 117: Gathering at Mycroft
Now the real title, Gosho.
File 118: The Woman Who Knew Too Much
File 119: A Mysterious Explosion
File 120: A Lie Revealed
File 121: Real Self
>>282343184After all, Gosho reccommended The Sign of the Four in vol 1.
Gasp! Is this it for Conan!?
Done. I always liked The Five Orange Pips, myself.There is always only one truth! See you tomorrow!
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>>282343286>Hellery Queen instead of DoyleMaybe Heiji is not so bad.
>>282343314Mr. Casual Filterer means business.
>>282343202Hey look, it's Haramaru before he got Otters 11 serialized.
>>282344415>>282344429The most psychopathic murderer so far?
>>282343155oh THAT'S where that image in OP 3 comes from
>>282344471Sera could have used this one weird trick to force Shinichi confess his identity.
>>282344455The first of many
>>282343155Here we go. I have good memories of this one.I got this volume from a library, while a classmate took the next one, and coincidentally, this case leaves the resolution for the next volume, so I spent the entire weekend pouring through the case over and over to solve it, and then explained it in detail to my classmate in school the next week.
>>282344137L-lewd Conan!
>>282343314Daily reminder to gatekeep your hobbies
>>282344280I like the idea of Conan knocking out some black guy and then trying to sound ghetto, like Dee Reynolds doing her Obama impression.
>>282343430jesus, Richard
>>282343867kek
>>282343184What's your favorite? Mine is The Hound of the Baskervilles. Boring answer but it's just an excellent literary work in general, not just of mystery genre.
>>282344455It makes no sense for Conan to use a smart guy like Heiji, who already suspected him of being Shinichi.
>>282344429Funny. When this was first published in my country, they had the guy dissing Irene as an ugly old hag who is unworthy of Holmes. The translator must be a hater.
>>282344490I hope the plain girl appears again.
>>282344429Imagine murdering people because you don't like their fanfiction.
>>282343548>these people couldn't have done itYeah, one of them did it, right?
>>282343804>No need to be scared if we stick togetherNormally true, but you did just see the garage blow up.
>>282347794He was kinda forced to. Can't use anyone else because Heiji is onto him, and Heiji refused to solve the case to force him to do it.The best he could've done was giving Kogoro hints until he gets there, but even that'd just lead to Heiji being sure of his suspicions.
>>282347930I've run into anons on this site who seemed like they would...
>>282343202Justified bonking.
>>282343257This must what it's like to deal with weebs for the average normal person.
>>282343300>A first print edition of Arthur Conan Doyle's A Study in Scarlet is extremely valuable, with one copy selling for £35,250 at auction in 2021Damn!He's a true Holmes otaku is he's willing to part away with it for a competition.
>>282343469A little bit of /fa/ here.
>>282343526A murderer lurking around isn't the kind of thing you should be smug about.
>>282343469>dressed up like HolmesHolmes doesn't actually dress up like that in canon, though illustrations sometimes had him wearing the deerstalker hat in the countryside. He would certainly never wear such an outfit indoor, which would be ridiculous.
>>282347726I would agree with you! Silver Blaze is another great one. The "curious incident of the dog in the night-time" deduction is iconic
>>282343855This Okinawa upstart has zero respect for TRUE detectives!Shameful!
>>282343469Hurm... She wasn't there to witness the owner dying, and she certainly didn't see if the outfit was "perfectly good"...
>>282344121>Wanting to go to the bathroom with a kid
>>282344137ME!?
>>282349606I'm rereading the books and watching the Granada adaptation with Jeremy Brett right now. Good thing the whole series is available for free on Tubi
>>282347930Let's see how you will react when someone makes a slanderous story about your waifu.
As someone who had catch up to the latest chapter, here is the official and true DC tier list. Only relevant characters.<spoiler>S tier>Yusaku>Rum>Haneda ShukichiA tier>Conan/Shinichi>Gin>Akai>Amuro>Matsuda>Kansuke>Morofushi>Hiromitsu>Mary Sera>Rumi WakasaB tier>Heiji>Hakuba>Kaitou Kid>Motivated Kogoro>Vermouth>Kir>Jodie>Ai Haibara>Eri Kisaki>Heizo HattoriC tier>Masumi Sera>any other BO members>any other detectives belong here in this list>any of the police officers D tier>Base Kogoro>MitsuhikoE tier>Yamamura>Drunk Kogoro>Ayumi>Genta</spoiler>
>>282343202gotta track down those stills of Kogoro calling the gals mixed raced and raised in a jungle and every looking at him, open mouthed, to edit
>>282347726I've got to get back to rereading all the shorts, and it's not necessarily my favorite, but ironically this case brought up one I've thought about lately. Scandal is sort of both over and underrated, as is Irene Adler. People can probably already guess the most obvious complaint, which is the way she gets turned into his love interest, but it's deeper than that.Despite the "mystery" not actually being very deep, the short is actually pretty standout in Holmes canon for being remarkably tightly themed. The King of Bohemia is getting married, but also embarrassingly obviously still in love with Irene. Irene herself is getting married, and we have no reason to assume it's not for love. Holmes, meanwhile, not only thinks little of love, Watson goes out of his way to assure the reader in a "no hetero" way about what Holmes thinks of women and even Irene. And yet, Irene comes out the victor. The man marrying for power and propriety is a buffoon who even Holmes clowns on, and Holmes, for all his smug reasoning about women and love, is made a fool because he underestimated a woman in love and came up with a ridiculous plan that was almost immediately seen through.There's all sorts of little neat touches around this theme, along side being a very funny story in general. It's also the first of the shorts, being only the third "Case" that ever came out, which also makes it somewhat remarkable for how it twists around some of the common parts of a Holmes story (disguises, especially with Irene getting one over on Holmes there too, Holmes being able to say someone's name before being introduced also being turned around on him) and so on.It's a really neat, unique story and absolutely none of it ever gets adapted properly any more.
Conan insists that the culprit must face justice no matter how sympathetic, so what does he think about his idol Holmes letting the criminal go on multiple occasions?
>>282344166>she's a karate expert so she always gets her ass beatHuh?
>>282350549It's a great story, no doubt. I don't know if the king realizes that Holmes looks down on him ("you and her not on the same level"). That said, it mentions later that Holmes did accept a golden snuff box from the king as payment for his service
>>282350889Well for starters, Holmes is a fiction, even in DC's setting.
>>282350889Is this in Holmes books?https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=19809&v=uzeimA6Zjzs
>>282351742Messed up the link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uzeimA6Zjzs&t=19809It's at 5:30:10 where Holmes just lets the guy go because he's Jewish
>>282351742No. The author was smart enough to not include a real life case in his works.
>I killed them because they wrote a book and published it like normal adultsMost incel killer ever?
>>282343155>Gathering (in minecraft)
>>282343232>says she is a fortune-tellerConan can read those name/age/occupation panels?
>>282344137I shoulda known it was me!The last person I would've suspected!Yet, Only one person could've been so dastardly and clever!
>>282351864You act like an idolfag murdering someone because of a doujin would be a far fetched event.
>>282351864I still think the KyoAni arsonist takes that prize.
>>282343455I read that as "might just be murder" and laughed.
>>282350964She's NOT superhuman like Ran.
>>282350089I would argue Masumi Sera belongs on same level as Heiji, both are really good detectives, just a bit too impulsive and emotional to really come through.Jodie is an experienced agent, but her crime-solving skills are not really that great. Granted, a good part of that is that she often appears in cases where agents like Akai or Amuro need to be uplifted, so she can't shine through much.
Why is Heiji black?
>>282356068Cause his grandpa was, and grandpa's parents didn't explain.
>>282343155>>282345961most iconic conan opening (kimi ga ireba was never an op of the anime)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2V2yfymXuWU>>282343286basedEllery>Holmes
>>282343804i really love Heiji and Shinichi's dynamic and cases together. Heiji is overall my fav character
>>282344137Conan, was it really necessary to point it? People will see your hand there
>>282356068I've been to Osaka recently, and compared to the rest of japanese people, a lot of them have a darker skin
>>282356524Some leftover from past, genetics is a funny thing. Probably because Osaka was Japan's primary economic center during Edo period, and merchants would have wider range of contacts than any other person.
>>282350549Yeah it's a top story by far. Stories where the detective loses are often very entertaining.
>>282349554There are not many descriptions besides the one in a Study in Scarlet, but, yeah, he would obviously dress as a common person to the place he is frequenting to not raise attention to himself.
>>282356431Yeah, Heiji should appear more, but they ended up moving more with his love situation in most stories he is in.
>>282344471why does he keeps using <3 in his speeches, it makes me uncomfortable lot gonna lie...
>>282356944To signal he is doing extra hard to sounds like a child. Even the Detective Kids dislike it,The anime even adds an arerere to it.
>>282343202>a novel written by a WOMAN? *spit*gee Gosho, calm down with the sexism
>>282344490>hurting Ran's feelings to get back at ConanHeiji is a piece of shit.
>>282343202>novel written by WOMAN? *spit*gee Gosho, calm down with the sexism
>>282349554>>282356758it's cool tho
I wonder, what episode of the anime was airing at this point in time? Just to keep track of where we are overall.
>>282350089>Hakuba>only Bno dice
>>282343184I only randomly enter this thread every other day. It's interesting to see how the art slowly changes over time>>282343333This is an interesting chapter with Conan getting to flaunt his hobby. Sometimes I wish the story would go on with the fun without anyone dying
>>282357172Around episode 18, the anime had just begun airing that year.
>>282343275You can tell they are Japanese and fans of Holmes, when not one thought Conan might be coming from the barbarian.
>>282356393Speaking of openings, does Conan have a main theme, like the one Lupin has?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNZl7_W_Q5s
>>282357180If anything, he's closer to Masumi. He has 3 canon appearance in DC, and he isn't impressive at all. He got the culprit wrong in Detective Koushien case, and he fails to see through Conan's identity when he literally saw him used the voice-changing bowtie.
>>282350089My memories about the entire series are a bit fuzzy... why is Rum supposed to be higher than Gin? Afaik Gin is always the one who brings up the deductions, when he speaks...
>>282357119I mean it's not that serious, or at least it doesn't sound like it is. Depends on the original Japanese expression but it's probably more like "she's so high maintenance" than "I hate dealing with her">>282357282https://youtu.be/MZjCt0jJ1tE50 minutes of main theme and various remixes, probably missing a lot of them toohttps://youtu.be/oXPzi_x5EbI
>>282343202>>282343360>>282343430Gosho's cute homely maids....
>>282357672Rum, while undercover, often gives hints to Conan to solve the case. Thus he's a better detective. Since Rum > Conan and Conan = Gin, Rum > Gin.
>>282356393TRUTH is more iconic.
>>282357747Best legal mind I ever knew.... and a real good man...
>>282343232is that his mom in disguise again?
>>282357905MOM STOP EXPOSING ME IN FRONT OF MY GIRLFRIEND
Do you think Professor Agasa is happy about Shinichi's transformation? I would imagine he got pretty lonely before and now he seems to have a lot of fun with the kids around.
>>282357951No. Now get back between my tits in my skin tight suit, we are having a bath together later.
>>282349198I feel like this has to be a trick. 1000 questions of trivia, no outside help, not even 24 hours time and you have to get literally 99% right to even get a chance at winning it. This guy is not really willing to pass along his book
>>282357956He also has an excuse to build cool gadgets now.
>>282357956I don't know, if I wanted a buddy as a grown man I'd rather pick 16-17 year old famous detective Shinichi over 6 year old Conan. Well I guess it's an exciting new part of his life and they can hang out like they used to in the first place so maybe it's even better now
>>282343584>>282343655so the guy with the glasses clearly told her something or made her some offer so she wouldn't reveal the truth, right? He's the only person who talked to her between these two events
>>282343774>that eyecan't believe she was suspect-kun all along
>>282343785it's an interesting set up. All the other guests fancy themselves detectives as well, but because their only experience is mystery-novels all they can come up with are these armchair-theories that sound dramatically satisfying but make no actual sense with the given evidence
>>282344137can't believe the wall was the murderer the entire time
>>282344280the translation captured this bit really well, kek
>>282344415how is this proof at all? there is no way this would stand up at court. Where is Eri when you need her?
>>282347930was it even fanfiction? the one guy said he contributed an essay>>282343956sounds to me like it's one of those non-fiction-books that analyses stuff, like those "The Philosophy of The Simpsons"-books. So he's not even mad because they wrote her character out of character but because they misunderstood what he felt the character was about
>>282344343I wouldn't even count that as manslaughter let alone murderWhat kind of dumbass would whip out a lighter when you can smell gas?
>>282358886People in DC can't smell days old corpses, their noses are probably too weak to smell gas too.
>>282347726Adventure of the Yellow Face, because Holmes completely missed the mark and later asked Watson to rein him in if he gets too overconfident, plus the ending is really heartwarming. Though it might not be to everyone's taste given the current shitposting climate, as well as requiring familiarity with Sherlock Holmes cases to understand how rare it is for Holmes to be completely wrong.
>>282343244>>282343257Wow, these people are insufferable. Not a good look for Holmes fans.
>>282343584>>282343600>>282343655I always thought Gosho made it way too obvious with this one. Even retarded 10 year old me quickly figured out who the perp was.>>282343672Well, evidently not.
>>282344166what a ryonabait
>>282343785I just realized this is a nice callback to And Then There Were None that Kogoro I mean Richard mentioned at the beginning.
>>282350089Sato should be B tier
>>282355631Masumi and Heiji is an interesting one. Heiji's first appeared to job to Shinichi, but later on Gosho throws him a bone or two and made him at least on par with Conan for the majority of times. While Masumi seems impressive at first, purposely making wrong deduction to bait Conan, her subsequent cases are just her mostly relying on her brother and mother.
>>282359802She's used goods.
>>282344266That's right, Richard! It was you, you idiot! You couldn't handle all this Holmeswank as an Agatha Christie fan so you start murdering everyone!
>>282359861So is Yusaku
>>282344309I thought this was the one with the ice blocks, guess I remembered wrong.
>>282358566Damn. That's even worse, because instead of writing an obvious hatefic, they were simply just analyzing one possible interpretation of a fictional character like proper academics. I would've given the book a 1-star rating and an angry blogpost at worst, not fucking murder.
>>282344490Thanks for posting.
>>282350089>Heizo Hattori>B tierWhat? He's Yusaku level. That's why, like Yusaku, he rarely shows up. They're both too OP.
>>282360583One thing I really hate about DC is that there are so many super competent detectives and agents, yet you don't really feel the same level of competence from the criminal side. It lowers the stakes and makes the whole detective thing look less impressive.
>>282350089Kaito Kid? Should be A/S tier
>>282360985>S tierHe is most certainly not above Shinichi. Kaito's best ability is that he can quickly adapt to dangerous situations, but when it comes to investigations he hasn't got much patience for it, the most generous estimate would be that they are on same level.
>>282360583He's a cuckold so I put him lower. >>282360985Kaitou Kid is strangely all over the place. In Magic Kaito he seems to be a better detective than a thief, but in DC, he's unable to display any of that.
>>282362290Because in DC he is no longer the main hero, but the detective's fated opponent. Can't have them both do investigations at the same time.
>>282360583He couldn't be S tier right? He got the deduction wrong in his first appearance.
>>282363215>HeizoIgnore, I'm a speed reading retard
>>282352938Brown bricks...
>>282344490Thank you for posting.
>>282357891NAZO is iconic they used it twice
>>282358026>>282357956Is Agasa supposed to be Emmet Brown from BTF?
>>282357743You're 100% right. Thanks anon.
>>282350549There's a short story where Holmes is flexing to Watson by telling things about people by just looking at some of their objects, and then he accidentally figures out that Watson's father was an alcoholic because of how his pocket watch looks.I like that little moment because not only there's a rare occasion of Watson being offended by Holmes (Holmes's deductive powers being so OP that Watson was rightfully thinking "nah he's faking, he already knows about my father"), but it's also one of the rare moments when not only Holmes apologizes, but he also seem t understand that by using pure logic you can hurt your friends by accident. Deduction must never sway away from humanity or something.It's a nice moment.Shame I don't remember the title of the story tho.
>>282360823Gin and maybe Vermouth used to be on that level, above Conan. But then he got dumbed down hard to make Bourbon and Amuro look smarter.
>>282360823The problem is that, while there are a lot of detectives, there's only one evil organization. Making them too powerful runs a risk of turning them into Moriarty from BBC's Sherlock - an impossibly powerful enemy who only exists to taunt the audience without ever delivering a satisfying payoff. It's best to keep them out of the way until the story actually needs them.
