Latest chapter here: https://cubari.moe/read/imgchest/wl7lonx2q7x/1/1/or here: >>282551140Discuss. QOTD:>Who is going to be stronger, Ginbak or Byakuo?>Who is stronger, Roya Roach or Diganazal?>Will Roya Roach live?
>>282595775Roach dies. Not by the robots.
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Some gold nuggets from the previous thread, ANCHOR:
>>282597075>881I’d say the two major groupings a faction can fall into are the growth types and static power types, with your groupings being more like sub-categories underneath, and with the demons displaying the four distinct tiers every other faction naturally falls into:>Fodder (the rank-and-file demons, robot drones, giants, Neo Humans, etc)>Elites (Kiva, Gori, and Heidi could be considered this as well as the Naver robot model; basically, anyone who can massacre the fodder but who should also have relatively high numbers in their faction, uncommon but not rare)>Champions (the Demon Lords and the Aliens, where a large portion of the faction’s power is concentrated; even one acting against the humans is essentially as threatening as the entire faction acting against them)>Leader (the very top of the faction; even if every underling is removed from the faction, the strength of the faction is basically unaffected as long as the leader sticks around)The Neo Humans and Aliens are both “growth” type of Natural Enemies, but the Aliens start off at a much higher point, so they’ll likely end up having a linear growth rate while the Neo Humans’ have a lot of room to improve and can end up with explosive exponential growth.As for the static power types, aside from obvious picks like God, I would place the Demons and Giants under this category. Their strength comes from their bloodline, it’s innate and not something they attained from research and technology. With the Giants, there’s always the possibility of there being sons whose strengths can come close to, rival, or even surpass Ginbak’s, given that the Chieftain position is something that’s meant to be passed down from generation to generation. Kiva spoke of his own noble bloodline, so the demons should also have a generational change for their positions, but I imagine the transfer rate is slower than the giants’ just because of how much distance Byakuo has from the current narrative.
>>282595923>aliens in BBased Daikoukuzan+Jachi wombo combo completely tanking their stocks
>>282597118This guy is wrong but I like his process explanations:>358>They needed to work in groups to take down individual fodder titansYeah, titans that immediately got serious once they saw them in action. A single and pretty small giant seemed quite scary against a group that contained a genius magician and a shocked & heavily injured hero.>Heidi was absolutely btfo by a mass produced humanoid robotShe destroyed it, otherwise she wouldn't be alive. And one of those made an executive class demon give it his all to get a victory too. And the only reason he won while looking so "good" is because Demons' regen is OP. Heidi seems pretty much Hallow-tier or better, since her weapon was some fucking knives.>Hell, desperation mode Ario took out an army's worth of neo-humansHe also cut up into pieces some rage-mode titans too.>and the parasite forced the city into lockdownParasites wiped out the weakest Nature area and seem on the way to do it with the Red Forest too unless it has some scary bullshit in it counter.The city still being somewhat intact and functioning is pretty impressive.You are just acting like the aliens, who've labeled a bunch of NE weaklingsin the same chapter that had two of the "weaklings" absolutely stomp one of them.
>>282597215The two lost in gaia’s wrath also doesn’t help…I need them to stop fucking around
RIP Roya
>>282595923No but seriously why are the Lawless so fucking pathetic?
>>282597301We have literally never seen anyone use magic on the Madalans unless you count the mouth beams from the Battle Executives. And that was less "resisting the magic" and more just being physically tough.
>the Lawless have laser rifles and know how to use them>the Lawless have mind control tech from the Robots and know how to use them>the Lawless have suits of power armor and just don't use themWhy?
>>282595775>Who is going to be stronger, Ginbak or Byakuo?As of now Byakuo should be stronger. If Ginbak’s only trumpcard is a big strength increase then the Demon King should win with Magik>Who is stronger, Roya Roach or Diganazal?Not sure who is "stronger" but Roach has match up advantage over Monke>Will Roya Roach live?Yes, but not survive for long. She will likely get captured after getting worn down by the next wave.
>>282597833Also from the Chinese side of the internet?
>>282597833She'll be fine.Her executive kids will show up to help her when the next version of the Jachin robot shows up to help her bail out.
>>282597929>entire arc gassing up the lawless as le crafty and le underhanded and le merciless>capstone parasite boss fight shows they’re literally just as helpless as baseline humans against every other NEWhat was the point?
>Generalretard
>>282595775Could Ginback take on Daikokuzan?
>>282595775>Who is stronger, Roya Roach or Diganazal?Roya Roach, for sure. Diganazal's power comes from versatility and is dependent upon available materials to work with. Roya Roach is powerful with just her own body.
>>282597833Imagine if she decides to do something similar to the chimera queen ant and gives birth to a last child far superior to all the others and even to herself before dying similar to how the chimera queen gave birth to King Meruem.
>>282598175I feel like Ginbak is the pinnacle of physical strength and is one of the few beings that could actually hurt Daikokuzan, but the size difference is just so massive that any retaliation would just end the fight.
>>282597999no, it's from discordit should be obvious
>>282597868Because they are normal humans, just 'evil'. They are only strong against normal humans and weak agains anything else.
>>282598047I’m convinced that the army of kids we saw WERE her executive level children, and that they no longer had unique features due to azuma needing to draw several army shots of them. They took on three waves of robots filled with navers and took seemingly no casualties up till then after all
>>282598379A natural enemy is something that should completely counter you with no way of fighting back whatsoever, something that predates on you.They're clearly not predators, just other humans
We don't even know if the demon king is alive. There's been no word from him.
Arent demons in the 3rd lowest position? Their strenght comes from 'versatility', basically a bunch of different small camps focussed in different abilities joined into one big group. Masters of all trades and Jack of none, while the other enemies completely speciallize in their trades.
where the fuck are you people coming fromwhy hasn't this thread been deleted yet
>>282598435there's no such thing as a complete counter irl by the way
>>282598596Nah, there are some around, just not a lot.Orcas for example are a predator with no counter. Whales as well, they're only vulnerable as calves, same shit with elephants.Hippos and Crocs outside of one another, Komodo Dragons and so on.
>>282595923Where the fuck is OUR FUARKING HERO 3rd Hero Abyss, the one who defeated the Thunder Beast Gora?
Demon lords except for Jachi turned out to be complete jobbers it seems.Really wonder how Aliens vs Robots would go.
>>282599163Aliens would understand that fighting the robots and giving them data is a bad idea. They would locate their main base/factories and destroy them from orbit
>>282598435The Lawless are just the only organized force of their world. They are buffed from the governments of the world wrecking it beforehand and represent the extinction of humanity by the loss of morals.
>>282597660>He came to the negotiations in the first place because he humanized the Lawless a lot more than Iglay and Gio, who had actually experienced their baboonery firsthand.Which ended after he met them and ran out of options.>>282592212>Rinri is a dirty manipulator and he is one of the top guys who perpetuated humanity's inevitable extinction in his own world.Rinri and Gore were kids when the world was already fucked up by wars, by all indications the wars were long ago and started by normal humans who accumulated economic and political power like those in our world.They also don't seem to be under threat of extinction for now.>>282592212>The fact he didn't use the bomb even when he was absolutely fucked, out of options AND didn't have other survivors around already tells much. An evil dude wouldn't bother thinking as much as he does. I mean, an evil dude would desperately try to worm his way into the Lawless ranks even at the cost of others but that thought also neither crossed Zaybi's mind.There were others survivors around, the prisioners, and Zaybi knew of them and even then considered dropping the parasite bomb, their new base is also practically next doorEvil doesn't mean stupid, the parasites are harder to defend themselves from than the parasites.
>>282598435>>282598596>>282598748Natural enemies don't mean a counter necessarily. It's just enemies who best you at your own field. Someone of your own type or class being far better.It's like fire vs hotter fire as opposed to fire vs water.They're just simply better in every regard with no leverage.So there's no way you can beat them.
>>282599291And sometimes, they are just calamities you cannot overcome.
>>282598175>take onIt's kind of meaningless, they would just leave each other alone as their fighting would go nowhere given their size difference.I kind of want Hallow to inherit Daikokuzan's power in some way, like a Jinchuriki.It's an actual beast so it would be nice.
Roya Roach is my new waifu
>>282599287>Rinri and Gore were kidsThat grew up into the guys who continued with humanity's inevitable extinction in their own world.>started by normal humansLawless are those same "normal" humans, just with far less riches.>They also don't seem to be under threat of extinction for nowKyoukai is said to be one of the strongest bands and the closest thing to a centralised power in their world. They don't seem to have complete families or clans (just female slaves) and their whole community is ready to fucking kill each other with few true friendships seen. And their treatment of non-bandits is even worse.>the prisonersThe ones Rinri killed without a second thought to charge up his curse gun? Zaybi is truly a monster equal to him if not worse. He considered using a parasite and then didn't. like two times at least!Evil often means stupid or retarded, actually. And for the Lawless, we've seen basically everyone but Rinri and Gore (and that one panel professor) to be complete mouthbreathers in their band, as for Rinri he is smart but he is not a long-term planner. Like he learned what a nightmare the world had become and his plan for the Humanity alliance was to suck them dry. Aggressively and lethally. Might have gotten one more pudding before some NE walked in and killed everyone!
>>282599685If One lets her die he’s never beating the misogyny allegations
>>282600211Is there more to this picture? Looks cropped. If it is then please put it in a catbox link.
>>282600633There’s a second part to this with her ass out but I don’t feel like posting porn, so just look for it on pixivhttps://files.catbox.moe/fl8dq2.jpeg
How are we feeling about the selection of babes in Versus compared to One's other work One-Punch Man?
>>282601242For the demon side Roya Roach and Diganazal are nice so far. It sucks that Diganazal is dead while Roya might meet the same fate in the next chapter.
>>282601242Roya Roach >>>> FubukiOnly ONE characters that compete are (Webcomic) Webigaza and (Manga) Tatsumaki.
>>282601242Heidi and Diganazal are my favorites.I really liked Riam too but she died so quickly and hardly had any screen time.
>>282601242I’d confidently say they were better if so many of them didn’t die so quickly, seems like only the ones that are considered reps of their world are allowed to live
>>282602632>RiamI liked her Neo Human disguise. She looked cute. I wish she somehow survived.
What's with One killing cute girls all of a sudden?
>>282602830He has been unchained from Murata
>>282602830Togashi was a big influence on his writing
These robots are honestly not interesting, but I assume they lose eventually because otherwise they must inevitably become unbeatable.The only question is, how will they lose?It would help if there was at least some explanation for how they are matching mana power other than just waving it away as "they get stronger every time you fight them."
>>282602830One is barely sparing anyone outside of the important cast. I was hoping for Braginte from the giant world to still be around before he was brutally killed.
>Japan has 47 prefectures, equal to the number of demon kings. And the 11th prefecture in the list is SaitamaJACHI IS THE STRONGEST DEMON! He also has similarities with the Deep Sea King who was ONE's favorite monster.>--There are a lot of heroes and monsters in the anime. What is your favorite character?>ONE: I think my favorite after all is Saitama. Besides that, my favorite hero is King, and my favorite monster is the Deep Sea King. Specially when the Deep Sea King became larger in the story, it was very fun to draw it.
>>282598114The Lawless will take on the perks of whatever other NE has going on. The Lawless are about being able to adapt because they do away with the morals that wouldn't allow it. While the Good Humans sole plan is to get their NE's to kill each other and hope for the best The Lawless choose to take what they can from the other NE's because otherwise they're just sitting ducks
>>282603304Well, I think he might at least be the strongest demon king.
>>282603013We are already seeing how they are trying to combat the demon lords and their mana. They simply made the experimental robots more modular with thrusters. The Jachi robot coordinated with the explosive drones to simulate Jachi's energy attack on Roya. The robots are limited by logic and do not outright copy magic. The new robots are not suddenly durable and cast spells.
>>282603267They fucked him up.
>>282603637
>>282601242>One Punch man girlsI don't care for them.I only remember the watermelon girl and a few monsters and I don't care for those either.The brown girl in the webcomic version is a 10/10 though>VersusI like the Neo-Human chick in bandages and this cockroach girl.
>Neo Humans are planning to exploit the parasitesI hope we come back to this. The last thing we saw was a bunch of infected Neo Humans Heidi's brother was watching. Do they intend to use biological warfare? It is overkill on Lawless. Using it on giants or the nature will backfire by creating a super wurm. We don't know if demons can be infected by parasites.
so the mods are just dead then
>>282603304Good catch.
>>282603544>The new robots are not suddenly durableYeah they are. In the span of presumably a few minutes Roach's learning robot advanced from getting one shot by a basic attack to getting knocked a long distance away with no damage. Mana is also supposed to give the demons defense to the point where the hero's sword did zero damage to Jachi.If there's "adaptation" here it's on the level of a human wearing paper armor and then upgrading to the mithril armor set he already had in his closet and saying he "adapted."And no, making yourself look visually like Jachi's armor isn't a good explanation.The degree of difference in attack and defense power doesn't make any sense. If they had these attack and defense capabilities they could have just brought out that robot from the start.
>>282604036I do think it's interesting that every faction that is human or was originally human immediately thinks to start exploiting whatever comes their way>Good Humans exploited the Demon's ego and situation with the Aliens to buy themselves some time till they could teleport away>Lawless exploit the maternal nature of Titans and then later on a Curse item>Neo Human's are now plotting to exploit the Parasites
>>282604289But Roya has a weak mana in her weak joints, anon! Robots are so fucking retarded.
>>282604289Roya specified that it blocked that attack with several layered shields, which i think makes sense. Then there’s the part where the robot is STILL destroying its own arm every time it lands a hit on roya, to show that it’s material still isn’t quite as strong as demon lords. I’ll think we’ll have to see how they do against a power type before calling them out, as roya’s just supposed to be nimble and can’t even handle a hurdle of explosions that would leave jachi unscathed
>>282604289>robot advanced from getting one shot by a basic attack to getting knocked a long distance away with no damageRoya Roach directly states that it survived by layering its energy shield. The robot did not become tougher. It learned a new way to apply the tools that it already had.
>>282604289>to getting knocked a long distance away with no damageBecause Roya literally said he stacked the "honeycomb shields they got" in three layers to tank the attack and he only managed to hurt her because he targetted a joint, which is a weak spot for any living being but especially for an insect.
>>282604289>If there's "adaptation" here it's on the level of a human wearing paper armor and then upgrading to the mithril armor set he already had in his closet and saying he "adapted."This is more like the human wearing paper armor didn't even know mithril armor was possible until they saw someone else wearing it and then immediately going to obtain some for themselves. The robots are just so advanced that they go from learning about a new thing, to figuring it out, to making it, to testing it in under an hour. Jachi is just so overpowered that every advancement they make is just to copy him screwing around, so all they've done is push him from ignoring them to throwing lazy punches.
Another gift from the chinese
>>282605112Oh now THIS one's good unlike the BBW stuff.
>>282605065>>282604919>>282604844>>282604825They didn't see anyone else "layering shields." And that sounds like an extremely obvious idea if it's possible, and has nothing to do with fighting a demon lord.
>>282605272Roya tummy is canon, she ain’t FAT, but she’s not skinny either. Still, I like how this fanart makes her look like she has a snout
>>282605384>They didn't see anyone else "layering shields."They saw human magicians cast magic barriers and replicated them after learning them. It's not literal magic though, they got "anti-energy fields".>extremely obvious idea if it's possible,I think you're forgetting they move only based on absolute logic, like a colony of ants.Their reinforced metallic armor was already good enough to shrug off piercing sniper shot from human rifles. Humans were their only enemies, so they had no need to get anything better.Now they got more enemies than just humans, so they're improving on that. They got enemies that can shatter their metal so they grab these better energy shields they've discovered and keep making them better until they can withstand the attacks they need to withstand.
>>282595923How can you put the tree in SS when we have seen jack shit from itFrom what we have seen God is clearly the strongest one yet
>>282601899>Roya Roach >>>> FubukiCome on manWe both know even you don't think this is the caseYou are simply excited about the new mosntergirl, give it a month
Is /ourgirl/ going to join the good guys?
>>282604036Those neo humans were dumb and got infected themselves. The city admin Rogen/Heidi's brother is not a dumbass and is going to avoid making super-powered parasite enemies. Although they consider human Heroes a threat (seeing as Alito was captured and restrained and studied), there's no way they want to deal with parasite humans which are far more dangerous then just normal humans. If anything, I think he's the most likely to make a truce with humans because he understand they have information and neo-humans are also under an existential threat from natural enemies.
>>282605790>the neo humans will ally with the humans.... are we reading the same manga? I could see them "using" humans but I don't see them teaming up
>>282605790i think Neo Humans will adapt to parasites and use them to gain a power up, something like create a vaccine that weakens the parasites enough to be controlled and create biological weapons like in Resident evil using their regeneration and mutation.just like Parasites are using the plants and animals from the Gaia's wrath to power up, Neo Humans will use the Parasites to power themselves up.
>>282606246A truce is not an alliance. It means they have bigger shit to deal with than fighting. Rogen will probably want to extract as much information from humans as possible.>>282606324Neo-humans haven't been shown to be the most advanced in science though. They clearly have processes/equipment but nothing suggests they are bio-hackers or anything.
>>282606396>Rogen will probably want to extract as much information from humans as possible.yeah that's why they have a hero in their lab>A truce is not an alliance.if you mean a humans giving mana to demons scenario, then maybe.I don't see any natural enemy giving up on killing humans
>>282605719I don't think so.It would require an event so big, so extreme and so crazy for her to actually try to be human.
>>282606427It's not giving up, it's realizing that they have bigger problems than hunting humans. Aside from Jachi wanting to see how Hallow's fairing, Demons are basically ignoring humans now. Daikokuzan will probably target mostly other natural enemies because of their scale. Aliens are now focusing on Daikokuzan and will definitely focus on other ones as they start realizing their strength. If Rogen's smart (which he seems to be), he's going to ignore humanity/get them off their backs in exchange for information. They'd continue the hunt if given the opportunity, but Rogen's smart enough to know that's a long while away. I'd also bet that other Neo human cities were destroyed already, and some Neo human council meeting will eventually happen (years from now at this pace though).
>>282606533the entire unlawful human arc was about how natural enemies will never get along with our main cast of heroes. Yes they'll probably shift their focus but they're not going to just leave the humans alone, let alone trade information.
>>282605719Heidi just needs a good dicking.
>>282606588And completely forgot the point of the Demon/Alien fight. Just because they won't join hands and sing kumbaya doesn't mean they won't work together if it's convenient. Even in the end Kiva tsunderely hands over the whistle to Hallow by pretending to try to kill him.
>>282605719I really liked how her reveal as a mole played off of the earlier lawless infiltration red herring, because in restrospect of course the average bumbling lawless retard wouldn’t be able to play the role of a decent and upstanding person for any significant amount of time, but a psychopathic ubermenschen most definitely could.
>>282597118I think instead of rigid categorization like this looking at the themes/tropes each NE represent would be a better guide on what they can do in the story.
>>282606588>the entire unlawful human arc was about how natural enemies will never get along with our main cast of heroesDid you forget how, when fighting the Super Wurm, the alliance went back to help the Lawless, and all of them except for Rinri gratefully accepted? True, it didn't help at all and they had to be bailed out by God, but still.
>>282606396>They clearly have processes/equipment but nothing suggests they are bio-hackers or anything.They are literally born from bio-enginering and they clearly took over from Old Humanity.
>>282607110Your headcanon is leaking, they are just an evolved version of humanity, it was never stated to be due to technology or anything of that sort.
>>282607208An experiment gone wrong sounds more reasonable and compelling than a random mutation spreading to everyone.
>>282608412nigga it's still just your headcanon
>>282595923I made this one almost a year ago and it seems to hold up pretty wellMind that its for NEs as a whole, Ginbak carrying Giants from complete mediocrity doesn't change they are still garbage outside of his showings
>>282609208>Mind that its for NEs as a whole, Ginbak carrying Giants from complete mediocrity doesn't change they are still garbage outside of his showingsNah, that was pretty much changed in this chapter.A robot that had blown off Roya Roach's arm was destroyed by Jachi in a single punch just as easily as he had blown off this giant and destroyed even more. This means that not all demon lords are on a similar level to Jachi, Jachi suppressed by the cape would still stomp Roya Roach, Gori took much less damage from Jachi's punch, Gori is much stronger than the versus robots so far. He could well be at Roya Roach's level or even stronger. Comparing Roya Roach with Jachi is like comparing Puri Puri from the beginning of OPM with Darkshine or even Tatsumaki.And that makes sense, each level makes you exponentially stronger than the previous level and Jachi was measured as level 132 even with cape suppressing him and he may even be above that even in that state as the robots gave him that level based on their inability to damage him even the slightest at all.This means that Jachi is many levels above the executives who are level 6 and each level makes him exponentially stronger even with the cape suppressing him, there is enough room to have demon lords much stronger than heroes and executives who are still much weaker than Jachi with the cape.
>>282609917>A robot that had blown off Roya Roach's arm was destroyed by Jachi in a single punch just as easily as he had blown off this giant and destroyed even more. It was explicitly explained that the Robot did so by targetting a weak joint which would be even more vulnerable for bug like her>*retarded headcanon nonsense*If you genuinely think Gori "scales" to the punch that literally killed him then it's not worth to hear you babble
>>282609917>A robot that had blown off Roya Roach's arm was destroyed by Jachi in a single punchActually they were fighting bots based off of each other, because the robot's were using that to find ways to defeat them.You can see after Jachi one-shot uppercuts the Roya-bot, the Jachi-bot tries doing the same type of punch the next page among its other attacks. Except next chapter showing the robots thrown at Jachi to start incorporating more of Roya's techniques.
>>282609917>>282609208>SS+ tierGod, World Tree, DaikokuzanByakuo, Ginbak>S tierJachi >Demon Lords, Gaia Superwurm ≥ Madalans, Hundred Arms, Forest Lords > Roya Roach>A TierVersusbots, Gaut Superwurm, Fairy-Union Heroes>B tierHeroes > (Demon) Combat Executives ≈ Turtle-bots > Naver > Roya Roach children ≈ Neo-Elite >C+ TierTyrant Bear >> Catfish > Giants >C-D TierGaia's birds ≈ Pakkya ≈ Gore > Robo-dogs > Wizards ≈ Neo-humans ≈ Gaia's Ants > Demon fodder ≈ Machine World Supersoldiers
>>282610659Forgot the mothership, I assume that would be Jachi-tier or lower. It should be stronger than the Madalans, but slower and more unwieldy.
>>282610659More or less agree but I don't see any reason to place Roya Roach lower than featless or poor showing characters like the Hundred Arms brothers and the Forest Lords
How will Jachi get humbled?
>>282599163Roya Roach is fighting off hordes of mass produced robots on her own, she is not jobbing because robot is meant to crush bug
>>282606785he didn't hand it over though, it was literally knocked out of him as he was thrown from the car for trying to kill hallowthe page before this was kiva trying to pierce hallow's chest with the last of his strength
>>282611114>>282599163Roya Roach is only a "jobber" because she had thousand of kids that were Kiva-level. Her whole theme is collective strength in numbers.Diganazal only jobbed because it was against Ginbak... who is the Byakuo, Gigatila of giants. The pinnacle of his race. She did pretty well whereas a Madalan was punched to pieces by Ginbak casually.>>282610803Roya Roach is being damaged by Versusbots that are about the same level as Jachi is casually shredding apart with single caped punches. Gori was killed, but he didn't even go WOLOLO and his body remained completely in tact. Gori is obviously way more durable than the bots that are damaging Roya Roach, although he might be too slow to fight her in reality. See: >>282609917
>>282611026He is too cocky he is going to bite off more than he can chew and take an L and Nyudo will warn him not to do it again
Posting this wip here incase thread dies randomly
>>282612081This looks great, anon.
>>282611198>a Madalan was punched to pieces by Ginbak casually.You neglect the fact that Jachi fucked up the Madalan beforehand.
>>282612081Neuron activation, BURST!
>>282612081Good job anon
>>282605719She's going to return home after spying on the humans for months only to get donut'd, probably by her own brother too, for losing to an no-name robot and becoming an ugly mummy. If the manga is based she'll just barely escape and regain her humanity. IF the manga is based.
I wonder if the humans will ever abandon their humanity. Like we've had a few strong humans, if they got their hands on some tech or willingly became neo-humans they might be able to take a low level NE on their own.
>>282612081I look forward to seeing this finished.
>>282612763Regain what humanity? She's always been neo humanity.
>>282611172oh yeah, jachi can't die until hallow uses the whistle.
>>282613131Maybe I was speedreading, but I thought it was implied Neo-humans are just humans that have turned into cyborgs.
>>282612081
>>282612081Hips
>>282598211It seems like her thing so I hope it happens.
>>282612900Nope, absolutely not, if they're to upgrade, it'll only be for improving their survival.Absolutely no heavy hitters.
>>282611198>Roya Roach is only a "jobber" because she had thousand of kids that were Kiva-level.It’s hard to say that they were, since the bots didn’t really show themselves unlocking their limiters on weapons-use like the one that fought against Kiva did. No explanation for why they didn’t either, though the bot that fought against Kiva was the same way and didn’t raise its threat level rating for him until the end. If I had to make an explanation, I suppose it’s because every bot is so easily replaced that they prioritize gathering accurate data on their targets over outright beating them, just like they’re doing now against Roya Roach; they could have just sent more numbers, both against her and her army, but they’d rather improve the quality of their tactics instead of rushing towards achieving victory.
>>282605719It's really hard to say. I wanna say easily no but I could also see her being an unwilling ally.
>>282616707The issue is that the exact same thing happened with jachi, and it was made clear that they were intent on destroying him, with all limiters removed. They had plenty of opportunities to do so. The reason they didn’t remove their limiters: is because there are too many of them. And their second design is far too complicated. The same thing applies to rotaroach children, we were previously shown that they can have several different roles and weapons, yet now they look the exact same. “Destruction mode” is no longer a valid quantifier of strength because the artists simply do not want to draw it
>>282617827Was gonna post this example
So what is the game faction?My best guess is it's something like the hei'ly cult in HxH where people can level up, but I'm not entirely sure how this turns into a natural enemy exactly.Maybe you get some perks for participating in the game (respawn maybe) but it forces you to complete quests or else you die?
Could Hallow beat a rank-and-file giant in a 1v1?
>>282617986An average giant? He's getting done like that one caveman who used super drugs early on in volume 1 or 2.
>>282613708I'm pretty sure they are all natural mutations of humanity, not cyborgs.
>>282612081Bless you.
>>282605384>And that sounds like an extremely obvious ideaEvery character is only as smart as its author, after all. But I guess it can be claimed the robot AI has the capability already, it just wants to see what the bare minimum of effort required to defeat them is. It's not just interested in extermination, but also in learning from them and collecting data. That's just my headcanon to make up for the shoddy technological characterization of the robot faction and is probably not what ONE actually thinks.And also it's holding back so that it can learn techniques (especially close combat techniques) from both of them and applying it to the other fight so that and Jachi and Roach are essentially fighting each other without realizing it.
Berser will save the giants by learning magic. Trust the plan.
Which major NE will Hollow defeat?
>>282622021Jachi.
>>282622326Make love, not war.
Looking at the design more closely, roya roach is sporting hime haircut cut isn't she
>>282605272>>282605112Total BBW death
>>282598748Orcas don't have no counter. Pilot whiles do to orcas what orcas do to bigger whales. They're smaller, but travel in larger pods and are faster and can murder orcas. They have a particular disdain for them and there've been several reported attacks on orca pods by pilot whale pods in the North Atlantic.
>>282613708they are evolved humans
>>282622326Too obvious and goes against the original premise of Versus
>>282622021My schizo theory is that he'll devise the plan to kill the kaijus by going inside them and destroying them from within.
>>282617957It's the end-story fakeout. Everyone forgets about it, but when the 'final boss' goes down and everyone is celebrating, they remember that they have one more Natural Enemy to defeat.
>>282623905The chinese can’t keep getting away with this…
>>282595923>Jachi and Ginbak same tier
>>282624189I honestly don't see anyone defeating Jachi OTHER than Hallow
>>282603304>>282624905He might be, or will be seeing as he’s just as important as Hollow. But as of now there’s no evidence of them being on similiar tiers.Would One make the Demon King a joke fraud like King? Or simply make Jachi stronger than the DK for some specific reasons.
>>282625100I can't see the demon king not being ridiculously powerful
>>282603304The idea of Versus honestly could've been born from that brief confrontation between Bakuzan and Gouketsu in the OPM tournament arc, I remember not being the only anon disappointed that we don't really get to see monsters fight each other.
>>282625750Or the fight between Garou and Orochi
>>282622021A robot copy of Jachin.
>>282625100The great demon king's either gonna be some guy like Zeno in Dragon Ball or just a strong dude that's God tier.
Made a much more nuanced tier list. Let me know if something's off.
>>282628428Solid. Too bad we have so little characters to rank. I would put Daikokuzan and Ginbak right between S and A. Ginbak because Jachi after one punch from Ginbak decided it would be a good idea to Burst and Daikokuzan, because incredible size, durability, strength ect. shouldn't be a problem for God, unless his abilities have some kind of physical limit.
>>282624189It could happen after Jachi's been roughed up by some other NE
>>282629015That's fine I guess but would it be meaningful to have Hollow kill Jachi after getting chewed out by Daikokuzan?
What is the highest tier feat each faction has done?For the humans, would it be Hallow deflecting that Madalan shot?
>>282629709The world merge/summoning was the highest tier feat.
>>282629795I was thinking in fights but that's actually stupidly strong, too bad they didn't make the entire planet rune a nuke instead.
>>282628963Thanks! That's exactly why I placed Ginbak above Jachi. Good point about Yaotsu's power seeing how he made mincemeat of that parasite despite it's size. Will revise that.
>>282628428I would put Ginbak in S tier since he is easily the trump card of the giants. He tanked Jachi's punches in the face which easily killed other giants. He punched Jachi hard enough to launch him through a whole city and actually made him bleed. Hallow had magic but couldn't do damage like that to Jachi. None of the experimental stuff Diganazal used worked on Ginbak either. He casually sneezed out her maggots that were suppose to eat his insides. Ginbak fell asleep from how relaxing Diganazal's attacks felt to him.
>>282612081>randomlygenerals are not allowed here, I don't understand how this thread hasn't been deleted yet
>>282630215What are generals anyway?
>>282630215Lmao as if that stopped anyone
>>282629709For the demons I guess it is Nyudo's ability to teleport stuff around the world and telepathically link with other demon lords. Nyudo is trying to be useful by noticing how robots work, but the other demons do not trust him.
>>282630521I'm talking about actual generals like this one, not the pseudogenerals that have completely destroyed /a/
>>282630661>actual generals like this oneOP wrote "general" in the topic as a joke, this is not a general in any sense. :/
>>282629709Everything Yaotsu does will be an impressive feat since he can warp reality. His debut is already spectacular. He can easily be one of the last natural enemies to be standing near the end of the manga. I have a feeling Yaotsu will be the one to defeat Byakuo who has been hyped as unstoppable. Jachi warned Hallow that defeating Byakuo is a "dream within a dream" in the first chapter. The stuff we have seen so far from the demon lords is impressive, but Byakuo's mana likely makes him equal to a god. I am sure he will surpass the shit we have seen Jachi go through.
>>282628428If anything I'd put Demon King and God in S, Daikokuzan at the top of A, Ginbak in middle of A and Jachin at high Ba nd then scale them according to these.I think the Madalans on average are stronger than most of the other stuff we've seen. Either that or Jachin was really sandbagging against that one he bulldozed.
After reading last chapter, the IA is a lot more dangerous than I thought they'd beI think they can beat the demons, and the neo humans / the aliens / parasites
So theres a chance we’ll just switch back to either hollow and his group or to one of the other group of humans so we won’t see the fight between roya and bots but what are your predictions for the fight?
>>282631423My h(c)ope is that the first half of the chapter is Roya fighting and the conclusion, and the second half is something else. Anything would be fine, but I want more yapping and moving the plot along. I don't want another fight chapter desu
>>282630868I'm still of the opinion that Yaotsu can only really do feat-level stuff if you pray to him, he's not actually creative with his powers otherwise. He's just really vainEach NE has it's weakness so Yaotsu has to have his
i want to see rinri vs yaotsu
>>282630215I said that because it’s also possible you guy’ll just run out of things to talk about and the thread just dies once we stop typing (while I sleep)
>>282617957It should be something addictive that makes you a drooling retard and also gives you penalties if you skip playing (as stated by the humans of that world). Sooo, a MMO or a gacha.Game vs God was hinted, so the psychological addiction factor must be very strong to have an effect on God.I can also see the game infecting the robot factories at first, but then getting BTFO because robots don't have feelings and fomo to exploit, they would try to optimize and minmax the game with TAS strategies and it would break the game itself, maybe finding exploits and glitches that the game will have to patch to avoid getting overwhelmed. Think of one of those heavily P2W servers where one random player finds an exploit for infinite money. The robots would feast on the game.
>>282631684We will just have to wait until the story goes back to the humans. They are still with Yaotsu.
>>282631684>Each NE has it's weakness so Yaotsu has to have hisI'm gonna guess it has something to do with the Game NE. Something like even God has to play by the rules of the game, and he isn't a good player. Need more information about it first.
>>282631684I think the only way to survive yaotsu is manipulation, not trying to literally manipulate him because he's probably not dumb, but just smoothtalking your way out of getting him killing you
>>282631423Every time NEs have fought each other outside of a flashback, it gets interrupted by a 3rd NE.>neo humans vs titan interrupted by parasite>demons vs aliens interrupted by kaiju>Jachi vs alien interrupted by Ginbak>lawless vs parasite interrupted by GodSo I almost guarantee that Roya Roach's fight with the robots will attract the attention of another NE.
>>282631684I'm telling you, Yaotsu will be a being entire made of mana, just like the fairies. Which, by the way, the Lawless killed a hero and took her sword, right? What happened to her fairy? Is it there in the church?
Will they ever meet again to finish the fight?Would you like Ginbak to to give Jachi a fistfull of humble pie?
>>282632587Maybe the aliens will come to investigate since they would likely notice a war zone from orbit.
>>282628428There’s honestly such a huge gap between Ginbak and Jachi, I don’t think it’s even right to put them in the same tier. Would make more sense to either bump Ginbak up, or bump Jachi down and lower everyone else by a tier too.
>>282632747I think their rematch is inevitable. Nobody else has made Jachi bleed, and he is eager to eliminate Ginbak after learning that Diganazal was killed.
>>282632747crazy that giants leader is only jachi levelthe weakest ennemies so far
>>282632145My idea is that Yaotsu doesn't know how to square up against other beings that can harm him and if the human's refuse to pray to him he'll just get whooped around while flailing angrily Think of it lie when the humans were healing Kiva and his crew so they could continue fighting the Aliens. They'll pray to Yaotsu when they need to and then try to ditch when they can
Revised
>>282597868They are not. They should be on SSS tier due to indminatable human spirtit.
>>282633196Ginbak was just toying with Jachi and negative diff'd the monkey. He's demon king tier.
>>282633750>He's demon king tier.lollmao evenjachi felt NOTHING against himif he was really that strong he would have that overwhelming aura like yaosu has, but no he's just a jobber
>>282633864>jachi felt NOTHING against himHe bled, was forced to use release and Ginbak just though it was neat that he was shining.Jachi would have gotten humbled hard.
>>282633942jachi didn't go all outand he didn't shit his pants either against him, when he made maladran do ityaosu would have made jachi so afraid he'd eat his shitbtw jachi isn't even the strongest demon general there are still 10 stronger demons not counting the king, jobbak is FAR from demon king levelI think demon king is probably around end game level
I think the Neo-Humans might try and brainwash/recruit Ario at least to try and get an answer to how he was turned into a hero. Sorcerions did stuff to the heroes to make them more than human and the Neo-Humans might end up considering heroes to be the magic equivalent of the early Neo's, not an equal but not a Paleo either.
>>282598435They might represent a different more abstract type of downfall. A "Humans are the real demons(NEs)". Humans themselves could be fated to cause their own downfall from within.
>>282598114Storytelling wise it's to show that being good humans who work together and form relationships is gonna win at the end of the day compared to evil humans who do not believe in morals and neo humans who lack any emotions.
