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Tenchi Bridge Reconnaissance Mission
Chapter 284: The New Cell...!!

Previous chapter:
>>282777106 chapter 283
Start: https://desuarchive.org/_/search/boards/a.desu.meta/subject/Daily%20Naruto%20Chapter/filter/text/page/8/

Believe it!
Thanks for joining and reading.
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>>282805632
Man, it's a good thing Tsunade doesn't know about Zetsu because her argument has literally no grounds to stand on otherwise.
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>>282805759
ENTER the only sensible authority figure in the village who was 100% right about everything.
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>>282805835
This anon is a member of ROOT.
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>>282805802
or that jiraya didn't really teach naruto anything so he's a total shitter compared to the akatsuki.
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uhhh hello?
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>>282805742
I forgot, how do the other Konoha elders feel about Danzo?
>>282805954
Not a bad design for Ino, but I do prefer her pre-TS bangs, I don't like her whole eye being covered.
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>>282805632
>a moving target is hardest to hit
What the FUCK are you talking about? How is Naruto safer going on missions than close to the Hokage?
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>>282805742
ENTER! again
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>>282805759
ENTER the ROOT of all evils
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>>282805976
Look how happy she is to see Naruto, bros...
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>>282805696
This is so fucking stupid
>just trust me bro it's a good idea to send the shitter to get his nuke stolen because I believe in him and if they nuke us I'll try to stop it okay?
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>>282805976
Shikamaru is unsufferable
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>>282805954
Dayum
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>>282805954
ENTER the most athletic /fit/ kunoichi (even though Sakura is the brawler)
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>>282806044
Kishi completely forgets that this isn't his real name for the rest of the series after this.
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>>282805976
Why is she so happy to see Naruto? Have they exchanged even a single word?
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>>282805976
Ino pits
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>>282805632
But this bitch wants to send Naruto on missions where the people who are after him are present. So this strategy makes no sense. Naruto is moving to his pursuers, not away from them.
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>>282805650
Compromise what?
You're clearly overly emotive and want Naruto to do what he want because you see your dead lover in that retard.
You're Hokage, Naruto's life is too valuable to be put into danger. If Naruto gets taken the entire Leaf dies. If you want to protect him, keep him close to you, retard
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>>282806075
Naruto suddenly got chummy with his fellow the rookie 9 post-skip, probably SP original content influencing Kishi.
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>>282806074
Enter diet hashirama
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>>282806044
"Yamato" will now be treated as his default name as if he always had it.
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>>282805650
Naruto shota dick was crazy look at her
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>>282806074
>Yamato's hair is colored black.
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>>282806135
You see, no one will see it coming if the code name you give them is their original, real name.
Nobody would be stupid enough to do that.
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>>282805954
To think she gets EVEN more hotter with age.
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>>282805696
You couldn't even prevent saucegay from joining orochimaru at his ninja neverland ranch. Hell naruto nearly died trying to get him back because you couldn't be bothered to go with them or send might guy to help.
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>>282806044
Yamato's real name is Oden.
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Chapter 284: The New Cell...!!

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Tomorrow: The Foundation
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Naruto basically was already the Hokage at this point because Tsunade is doing everything on his behalf.
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>>282806125
There's no reason why Danzo didn't got selected as Fifth Hokage beyond the fact Kishi had yet to write him into existene
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>>282806188
Alright Kishimoto how about drawing the characters from less than 50 meters away so we can actually look at them? No? You want to draw more shots of the ground?
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>>282806184
Cheeky
>>282806044
>my other name is Yamato
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>>282805791
And here start the lowest point of Naruto as a protagonist. I wonder if people back in the day really liked seeing Naruto treated like shit. I don't count the 4 tails battle as a Naruto battle and after that we gonna have some sasuke wanking. Basically Naruto will only have a proper fight in shippuden against kakuzu.
>>282805976
>This reaction
I guess the fillers really do count
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>>282806074
>>282806125
>>282806156
Yamatos face looks actually pretty nice in he manga.
I always found him weird looking in the anime. Not sure what changed but is better
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>>282806188
based sai putting pink slut in her place
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>>282806210
It takes real balls to have a character's most notable screen time be him saying your MC has a tiny dick multiple times.
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>>282806125
Kishi really did sellout to the anime and the manga is just advertisement for it.
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>>282806194
He was Hokage since he was born, being son of the Fourth, direct descendant of the First, of Uzumaki breed.
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So why is Ino so happy to see Naruto? Did the fillers really make them so close? Does she like him?
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>>282806210
>I guess the fillers really do count
Now I did want to mention Ino's only positive reaction to Naruto being her cheering him on in his fight with Neji, right?
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>>282806219
I think it's supposed to look a bit off-putting.
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>>282806247
Man Ino really is a nice girl isn't she?
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>>282806243
He's the only other blond-haired and blue-eyed person in Konoha, she wants her children to be like her and he's got the correct genes
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Pre-skip
Sakura > Temari > Hinata > Ino > Tenten
Post-skip
Sakura > Temari > Ino > Hinata > Tenten
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>>282806226
It's disappointing because this is supposed to be the timeskip where Naruto has been training under Jiraiya and should be showing off what he learned and kicking ass, but so far he has become a glorified side character in his own series and only seems slightly stronger from his younger self. After this arc, Naruto is literally gonna have to go back to the basics to get stronger.
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>>282806300
Big Rasengun killed a man.
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>>282805954
top cutie
sakura is the only one that got a downgrade
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>>282806243
The anime did imply that she had a small crush on him, at least during Part II's fillers. In Part I they went on some missions, I think. But if you're a pure manga reader, you'd be left confused because Naruto and Ino barely spoke to each other.
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>>282806322
>sakura is the only one that got a downgrade
Hell no she didn't.
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>>282806247
>cheering him on in his fight with Neji
I don't know it counts but everyone in Konoha was cheering for Nardo because Neji was simply insuferable
>Called everyone not talented a loser trash for everyone to hear in the middle of the fight
>Acted like a bitch and tried to murder his fellows konoha ninjas because they pointed out how miserable he is
Kek even the Villagers forgot their hate for Nardo
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>>282806322
Part II Sakura is literally her best design in the franchise.
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>>282806332
SP hated Hinata then.
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>>282806188
Based CHUDsai putting p*nkshit in her place
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>>282806360
LOL she got worse year by year
She peaked in ninja school
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>>282805954
Stacyno is so /fit/, even moreso than the brawler and Hyuuga combat specialist
>>282805976
Best girl is so nice.
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>>282806226
Why is the English translation the only one censored? I've checked the Italian, French, Spanish and German versions and they make Sai say that Naruto is dickless/has a small penis
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>>282806438
I forgot how "cartoonish" and early 00's Naruto was. Miss it
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>>282806332
Are the Ino fillers worth watch? My favorite of classic was Shino laughing
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>>282806038
Why would we doubt her methods? The Akatsuki had no counter for the Hokage being a drunk vodka aunt, or Hanzo with unfiltered schizo
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>>282806243
Some girls are just like that.
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>>282806243
Ino is a general ball of sunshine when she doesn't have dick on the mind. She's like a cheerleader
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>>282806499
checked, same reason wikipedia is absolute AIDS in english. But we got an anon banned for that so let's keep it at that.
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>>282806510
>early 00's
This was still 1999
Also, this chapter has Sasuke introduced, getting kissed and then defending Naruto and calling Sakura trash, , so the homo undertones are not subtle from the very beginning
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>>282806578
THE SENJU DID THAT
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>>282806188
Nardo and Pink are quite similar, also Sai so far is more based than Chudmaru, who seethes to this day about his mommy making him wash the dishes.
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>>282806577
>when she doesn't have dick on the mind
That when is doing more work than the entire Shinobi Alliance
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>>282806243
Ino is actually one of the more affable people in the story. Her only “rude” moments are solely because young Sakura broke off her friendship over Sasuke. Other than that she is friendly and is the glue for her team. She even told Pink to lay off her Sasuke worship when Naruto was fighting Neji.
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>>282805835
Also one of the more realistic depictions of someone in shonen recognizing how broken a power is and trying to abuse the hell out of it.
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>>282806197
Tsunade has medical ninjutsu to counter Orochimaru's poison. Danzo would have a high body count. It took weeks to clean off the corpses from the exams
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>>282806714
>She even told Pink to lay off her Sasuke worship when Naruto was fighting Neji.
I'm pretty sure she glazed Sasuke right after.
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>>282806758
I'm not talking about that. It took a lot of time between Hiruzen's death and Tsunade's election. There's no way Danzo, who was waiting this opportunity for 60 years, the same Danzo who tried to assassinate Hiruzen, did fucking nothing and didn't use every atom of his influence and power to force the elders to elect him instead, when we are constantly told that being without a Kage is a big deal and there was no time to waste.
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>>282806893
this is written for stupid 8 years old
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>>282806893
Manga Third Hokage supported assassination attempts to keep him from getting dull. He wanted his murder before breakfast
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>>282805976
Naruto should've banged her instead
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>>282806979
Agreed
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>>282806822
Not him, but no, she doesn't. She does (worriedly) say he doesn't have a chance against Neji at the end of the chapter, though. Which comes across much less shitting on Naruto and more thinking Neji is just That Guy.
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>>282805632
why Sasuke didn't kill these oldfarts again? fucking Kishi
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>>282806893
Ibiki and Anko can simply throw Danzo into the forest of death and feed him to the beasts.
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>>282807039
Sasuke doesn't interact with Ibiki, Anko, Iruka, or Ebisu after defecting. He left for more power so he doesn't understand how the Leaf works.
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>>282806577
You forgot she just hates fat people. But that was the norm back then
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>>282805954
best girl
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>>282806979
fuck off ken
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>>282807041
Ibiki and Anko would never rebel against the Hokage. Also, those two could never defeat Danzo in a fight.
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>>282806184
heh
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>>282807073
It ought to be the norm forever.
Fat >people are evil.
Kishi should have made the Akimichi clan the villain.
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>>282807114
Third Hokage doesn't care about morals. He supports the Chunin Exams to murder potential assassins
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>>282806822
I don’t remember her doing that during Naruto’s fight. She did admire the aura farming of Sasuke’s onesie, but that’s just standard stuff for a kid with a crush.
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>>282806582
greatest sasuke moment was this early in the series, hard to believe.
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>>282806582
This fucking nigger HATES drawing his characters he just keeps going with these long shots he fucking hates his characters
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>>282806714
Right you are.
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>>282805577
kill yourself narutard
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>>282807176
The Hokage here is Danzo. Once you're Hokage only absolute scum like Danzo would think about killing you.
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>>282806322
Yep. Her young design with long hair was great.
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>>282807212
They really make a good couple
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>>282806188
Man, I forgot how funny Sai is. Pure autism.
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>>282806084
>blonde
>ponytail
>tits
>pits
>cute
>love-head
>wears net
Is there anything better? temari doesnt count because she's top toer
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>>282807295
Danzo is weaker than Gato, movie villains, and even filler villains. The guy from the second movie was better at Danzo than Danzo. This is why filler villains went to ruling their own country
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Do Danzo and Naruto ever interact?
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>>282807419
lmao of course not
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>>282807212
Cute pair, aesthetic as well.
>she is the same age as part 1 Temari
Holy mog.
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>>282806231
>uzumaki breed
>but also senju
>but also the strongest disaster beast of the 9 disaster beasts sealed inside him
>but also an affinity to sage mode
>but also personally tutored by a sannin
>"BUT IT'S HARDWORK I SWEAR TRAINING WITH BALLOON AND SITTING AROUND DOING NOTHING FOR SAGE MODE IS REALLY HARD BELIEVE IT
I do hate Naruto sometimes, or rather how much fishing gifts him yet claims otherwise.
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>>282807419
He spoiled Naruto’s Milk as a child while Hiruzen gave him food stamps
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>>282805791
I cannot get used to Sai's skincolor in this color edition.
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>>282805632
>if naruto is in one place konoha will be in danger
>pain destroys the village and kills hundreds while naruto isn't there
>>282805696
>if naruto fails... I will do my job!
wtf is this?
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>>282807506
Anime-only.

Naruto had an apartment all to himself, and spending money. It was his choice to spend it all on ramen (shop or instant) because he wasn't taught to eat better. His lonely scenes were all hallucinations btw, except for the swing scene in the beginning when some kids were being mean a couple of days out of his years of life.
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If Naruto remains shelled up in Konoha, then Pain would easily kill him. She isn’t wrong I’m thinking this, she is the better Hokage after all
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>>282807650
we literally see the scenario play out with Gaara. Hiding in a village means fuckall when the other side has nukes and other shit
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>>282807650
Literally all of Naruto's training that makes him able to fight against the Akatsuki happens in Konoha and Toad Mountain which he teleports to from Konoha. Dude spents three years on the road with Jiraiya to get stronger and didn't learn shit in that time.
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>>282807621
Naruto's apartment is the most ramshackle structure in the village.
Also the swing is allegory for his entire life because no one was pushing him on the swing, just like no one did anything for him.
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>>282807774
All Jiraiya’s fault. Headcanon reason for me is that Naruto needed to learn the basics and control to be able to master sage mode later and Rasenshuriken.
>>282807684
I agree. I can see both arguments being valid, but the point of view she had is pretty valid.
>>282807821
Ol’ Hiruzen really gave Naruto Section 8 housing and EBT credit, no wonder Naruto was a little gremlin and why this manga attracted such a wide audience.
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>>282807936
In Japan, orphaned children are expected to behave and thankful they have an adoptive foster parent.
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>>282808011
Don’t Jap parents remain together for the most part? I don’t know anything about divorce or child custody there. Would be nice if Naruto had a caretaker instead of Hiruzen laughing with a crystal ball in his office while watching him struggle
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>>282808187
Kishimoto is a faggot
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Do we ever get something like Root for the other villages?
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>>282808224
Why are you posting so late? Your schedule is so inconsistent. Wish we had a better OP
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>>282807936
>Naruto needed to learn the basics and control
Wasn't Jiraiya's method throwing all that out and making Naruto learn shit through bruteforcing everything with his fuckton of chakra?
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>>282806231
Imagine the incest with Tsunade
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>>282808429
Dailyramen...
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>>282808182
Naruto is already the Fourth's son and Kushina a jonin. The Elric are the only ones with parents along with Gohan
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>>282808377
Can’t really verify. The 2nd bell test at the start of Shippuden pretty much states it as exposition. And Naruto is supposed to have learned to dive more into his 9 tails chakra without going berserk. Apparently Jiraiya almost died trying to control 4 tails (I think) because he couldn’t hurt him to the point of killing Naruto. The timeskip training is considered a meme by even the most casual Naruto watcher, so it’s mostly headcanon what he did
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>>282806194
>Tsunade is doing everything on his behalf.
Finally a hokage caring about Nardo
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>>282805632
Might be true for other villages, but Konoha is so stacked in talent that there is no safer place on the planet.
Jiraiya alone made Itachi and Kisame retreat. If Gai was in the village that day, Pain's invasion completely fails. And then there is Danzo and his entire organization (which weren't written into the story yet) to add another layer of protection.
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>>282808215
Kishimito is a based
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Dead thread
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>>282805577
You forgot the "daily" on the subject
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>>282805954
SEX SEX SEX SEX SEX SEX
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>>282808905
Well, nothing happened in the chapter. Wait till the four tails. We'll discuss Oro's tankiness and based Sai ignoring Sakura.
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>>282806044
Yamato didn't want to deal with the awkwardness of telling Tsunade that the codename she gave him was his actual name.
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>>282805976
CHUDkamaru can't go one chapter without being sexist
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>>282805742
>LITERALLY ENTERing
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>>282805815
How is Minato so special if anyone can "teleport" like this?
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>>282805835
Sai...
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>>282808411
Nothing in manga will ever surpass Obito becoming the most dangerous terrorist in shinobi world, ruining so many lives and helping itachi to genocide his own clan because he was in love with a girl with no slim body, no tits, no ass, round face and generic brown hair. Even her pesonality was of an average girl. Dude went on a killing spree and tried to genjutsu the entire world because a 5/10
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>>282806057
>>282806443
What's this meme? Because of her exposed tummy? She doesn't have abs or even look particularly thinner than the others.
Karin's was arguably more defined.
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>>282806075
Kishimoto wants you to believe in good faith that Naruto befriended those bozos off-screen during the months between SRA and Naruto leaving with Jiraiya.
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>>282806188
>I like ugly girls like you
I'm convinced that Sai isn't being sarcastic here and that Danzo made him think ugly is something positive.
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>>282805981
>how do the other Konoha elders feel about Danzo
Aren't they in bed together? Danzo had mentioned the other chapter that he had arrangements to make Sai team 7's new member. So this whole debate between Tsunade and the elders seems like a way to have Tsunade "compromise" with the elders, allowing them to choose who they want as Nardo's "guard"/team member without question.
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>>282806273
Kenchi...
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>>282806107
Logic doesn't hold any water in this manga bro. Remember how Jiraiya tries to reason with Naruto over forgetting his traitorous comrade, the same one who tried to kill him? The narrative itself portrayed Naruto's denial as a shining ray of optimism and hope.
Or what about Tsunade's flashback this chapter? It's meant to be sentimental and endearing, but really in reality it's clouding her judgement as the village leader. This manga runs off pure emotions over sense.
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>>282809230
Uchihas have emotional instability as the genetic trait. They literally need to suffer emotional trauma to unlock their key skill.
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>>282806714
She literally dunked on Choji for being fat.
>She even told Pink to lay off her Sasuke worship when Naruto was fighting Neji.
Then she went on to say Naruto had no chance against Neji.
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>>282809230
My FUARKING hero....
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>>282809230
you wouldn't get it...
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>>282808411
WORST Girl
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>>282809230
To be fair, besides Uchigger mental illness, seeing someone all the time and just being friendly is enough to make people fall in love with people they'd find straight up ugly normally. I've seen guys fall for hambeasts because they were the only girls that would talk to them on a regular basis when normally they'd make fun of the fat fucks.
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>>282808411
>>282808224
>>282806188
Arigatou, OP!
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>>282807064
Does Konoha run off peasants or something? How do your own soldiers go through academy and come out not knowing how their own government works? All they have to hail to is the Hokage.
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>>282808411
She killed millions of Obito's sperm count
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>>282809663
The entire system is a fraud, as exposed in chunnin exams and the akatsuki humiliating every village. The Gakure system protects the old farts landlords who control the military by the illusion of power so they don't rebel. Just like the voting system in our world.
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>>282809866
Grim.
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>>282809207
Kabuto has been doing it since the end of Konoha crush lol
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>>282806135
Kakashi doesn't call him that.
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>>282806044
>This is not a black ops mission...
>But you will be impersonating an Akatsuki member in order to meet with their spy for information on Orochimaru
>The legendary Sanin who assassinated the fourth Hokage, the fourth Kazekage, and tricked the Suna into launching an attack on our village two years ago. As well as a plethora of other crimes against humanity.
>So this will be a normal mission. Remove your mask right now.
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>>282810704
anno, do you know what black ops are?
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>>282810737
Is this not a covert mission? This same guy had spies infiltrated inside their very village
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THEY'RE FUCKING NINJAS
EVERY MISSION IS A BLACK OPS MISSION
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>>282810869
Some missions are more ninja than others.
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>>282810851
Anon, a black op is a clandestine operation conducted without any records because of the poltiical consequences reveal of such non-existent records would cause.

Assassinating a well known terrorist would be the exact opposite of a black op. Everyone involved would be lauded as heroes. We don't think the guy who killed Osama bin Laden is a faggot because he killed Osama bin Laden: We think he's a faggot because he said gay shit on twitter.
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>>282810909
Oh. Then why does Konoha send black ops after any hint of Orochimaru since the chunin exams?
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>>282810950
Because Orochimaru may be working with foreign political figures publicly accusing or investigating would make konoha look really fucking skeevy
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>>282805650
Jesus what a woman moment. You can tell Kishi had to work under a girlboss at some point, this is exactly what trying to reason with one is like.

>>282805696
She can't even beat Orochimaru's sidekick, what the fuck is she talking about

>>282805759
It is quite hard to believe that none of these people ever asked why Danzo suddenly started covering up half his body.

>>282806044
> it's a regular mission so remove your mask
Excuse me, is this not a story about ninjas? What do you mean, remove your mask? Are ninjas supposed to identify themselves? Why is Kakashi allowed to mask up?

>>282806074
the all-black eyes are awful and instantly mark him as a second-rate background character

>>282806188
I'm already convinced Sai is the perfect third man for this team
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>>282810989
Publicly accusing or investigating a known criminal would be skeevy? He committed crimes against Konoha long before KC. If anything, political figures openly working with Orochimaru would be skeevy...
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>>282811054
read my post again, anon
and keep in mind one of the major events of the story kicking everything off was orochimaru working with suna against konoha
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>>282811074
I see
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>>282808411
This is like the only time Rin has an actual rack
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>>282808411
Imagine obsessing over such a plain jane
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>>282809010
He's not the smartest or most consistent OP please understand
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>>282805632
wait, didn't they want either Jiraiya or Tsunade to become Hokage? And now they have the gall to say "you have the nerve to call yourself hokage"? Well why don't you make impossible decisions and get called out for it no matter what you choose?
>How dare you keep Naruto in the village, when a terrorist group is targeting him. Protecting the people is your priority, not protecting this freak of nature
you can't win with these fucks
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>>282805954
always hated her fashion after the timeskip. Her pre-ts outfit was a dozen times better
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Tsunade was 100% right and should have been rewarded with nardo penis after he got back
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>>282806188
so this translation really does intentionally remove all dick jokes, doesn't it?
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>>282806510
I GREATLY prefer Kishi's artstyle in early-middle part 1.
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>>282809485
The Leaf is a military superpower far beyond any other village in the world that is indirectly ruled by two senile out of touch boomers who never did anything good and show unwavering support to the village schizo who likes war crimes and human rights violations. Curious.
>>282810704
When you read "black ops" just imagine it says "ANBU". It's just yet another mistranslation. When Tsunade says Yamato won't be doing "black ops" work, she's actually saying he won't be working as an ANBU agent during this mission, but rather as a regular Leaf shinobi in a regular 4-man cell. Which is also why he has to drop the ANBU mask and the ANBU uniform for this assignment.
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What is the difference between anbu and root? CIA vs KGB?
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>>282811399
Yeah
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>>282811554
Root would be the shadow cabal that you'd put your tinfoil hat on to talk about.
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>>282811554
ANBU was like a super secret branch.
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>>282811554
>>282811629
I mean Root was like a super secret branch of ANBU.
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>>282807039
Getting rid of them served no purpose for his goals.
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>>282807487
someone's never meditated lmao

try accustoming yourself to intentional nonaction. now imagine doing that also entailed turning to stone if you didn't keep yourself in balance
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>>282805718
I don't think they had an idea what were Akatsuki's plans back then.
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>>282811554
It's weird.
Essentially the ANBU is the supersecret black ops division of Konoha. They answer directly and exclusively to the Hokage, take delicate and secretive assignments and are held accountable by no one but the village leader. This mission could be from espionage to assassination, and nobody but the Hokage and the people involved would ever hear of it.
But Danzo somehow got to create his own ANBU where everything I just said applied except they answer to him and not the Hokage. And no, the Hokage couldn't override Danzo's authority over the group. If that sounds stupid, the Third disbanded Root sometime after the Uchigger massacre but Jewzo kept running it illegally with no consequences whatsoever (the two old fucks probably think that's how checks and balances work).

So essentially Root is an illegal CIA ran by an ex-military guy that can remain active and continue to commit illegal acts because the guy has connections.
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>>282805976
>Shikamaru
My sides
>>282806099
They weren't going on a mission chasing Akatsuki but a secret informant also Orochimaru had no real interest in Naruto anyway.
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>>282811763
My dude, you question this when the CIA has frequently operated independently from the president at various noticeable moments in history in extremely questionable ways
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>>282808240
the mist was basically 'what if danzo ran a village', and even then it was Obito's fault
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>>282811795
the CIA has also set the world back centuries so it's a pretty good comparison
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>>282806135
Didn't Kakashi kept calling him by his other name which annoyed him?
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>>282807366
You forgot about her midriff.
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>>282806893
Danzo had no feats other than outliving most of his peers that's why he and the other two talentless old farts have any voice.
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>>282811795
But Root is worse because it is an entirely separate organisation that is openly loyal to someone other than the Hokage. This isn't the ANBU killing someone and not telling Tsunade about it, it's the private army of Danzo with a cult-like structure that gets away with not being aligned with or even accountable to the village leader.

While corruption in the CIA might be hard to fight, all you'd have to do in Root's case would be to force Danzo to obey the Third's order to disband the unit. Both Tsunade and the elders know exactly what's up but the elders are still visibly pro-Jewzo.
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>>282811841
i found that weirdly funny
like showing how autistic yamato is
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>>282811883
bruh
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>>282811883
When you have fucking retards as the Hokage and Danzo's treacherous shit is the only reason the village is doing as well as it is, the elders are gonna give him some leeway.
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>>282811882
he had the talent of needing hashirama cells and16 eyes, including one of the most prodigious Uchiha potentially ever (alongside Itachi, Madara, and Sarada) with a literally unbeatable power, to lose to tired and half blind sasuke
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>>282809230
>"he was the coolest guy"
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>>282810869
Some missions were pretty mundane tasks.
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>>282811054
Yeah and some kages admitted hiring Akatsuki and Gaara told them they were morally broken.
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>>282811924
Dumbzo is responsible for the two times we saw Konoha get destroyed in the series.
He was an Orochimaru collaborator and either hid intel from Konoha or his shitty organisation was too incompetent to figure out that Rasa had been killed and Orochimaru was coordinating a sneak attack with Suna.
He also has a big role in Pain's assault, not just because he's a major responsible in the creation of Pain and the new Akatsuki but also because he intentionally delayed Naruto's return to the village and held back in defending the village because he saw the destruction of Konoha as an opportunity to topple Tsunade and become Hokage.

He was confirmed to have contributed to the distruction of the village once and likely to have done it twice. Most of the stupid shit he does backfires against Konoha.
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>>282811399
What are the raws? I hate Viz.
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>>282809424
>>282806125
the anime filler is canon, is why
she's remembering the time Naruto peed on her and gets all giddy
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inocucks are the lowest imo. at least tenten is cute and nice, sakura is kinda pretty i guess and is important to the story, hinata is obviously the high point, shizune is cute and tsunade is stronger (not counting side characters or boruto, which would only further embarrass nothINO...)

she literally offers nothing and isn't attractive, and at this present moment in the story completely justifies chadkimaru's misogyny. nothing of value at all
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>>282806556
the fat princess one is easily one of the funniest episodes in the whole series.
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>>282810869
Finding a woman's cat and pulling weeds are a black ops missions?
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>>282807024
Sakura really is a terrible friend, isn't she
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>>282807212
what episodes have NaruIno moments like this?
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>>282812793
part 1 Sakura is an all around terrible person. She gets much better in part 2 for a while
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>>282812703
>hinata is obviously the high point
She's mid, and I don't understand I saw in her. I liked her Part 1 design more too, every girl got an upgrade but her.
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>>282811554
competing agencies created by separate Kages with the intent of subverting each other. It's like how the FBI and the ATF were at each other's throats for years before Bush unified them under the DOJ banner.
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>>282812825
until Sasuke shows up again and she falls right back into her abhorrence. for much of the Kazekage rescue arc and through the four tails, she's implied to having started falling in love with Naruto. Sasuke showing up and threatening to kill the both of them reignites her suicidal lust for the class badboy, and it's all over from then
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>>282812825
Post-Konoha Crush is when Sakura starts acting more like a friend to Naruto. But she has her moments before that, and when she thanked him for getting her out of Ino's jutsu.
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>>282812982
and then after Gaara nearly killed her she automatically assumed Sasuke is who saved her and even tried to say Sasuke was just being nice when he corrected her on who actually pulled it off.
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>>282807060
this guy. What was his name?
Not-Sasuke Uchiha with a Not-big brother backstory that was Not-gay
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any draw friends lurking?
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>>282813023
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>>282812982
There were moments were Sakura thought Naruto to be cool and brushed but Nardo ruined it right right after. Also she was unconcious when Nardo pulled the best moment of his life who was saving her from Gaara.
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>>282813052
honestly this wouldn't be such a big deal if Kishi ever gave her a real reason for liking Sasuke. She somehow has less of a reason than even Naruto's pathetic clinging
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>>282808377
Naruto learned rasengan in less time than minato, a jutsu of pure chakra control s rank in difficulty, control shouldn't be a problem
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>>282813081
she has a reason. it's because he was the coolest and broodingest and handsomest kid in the academy. she is just that shallow
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>>282813088
bro, nothing makes sense in this manga. kishimoto wanted to give Naruto a Kamehameha that is the explanation.
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>>282812553
Don't know, but I've read the fan translation of the manga when it was first released. Basically anytime he insults Naruto, you can assume he is actually saying "You have no balls" word for word
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>>282813165
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>>282813081
Naruto has much more than Sakura. They were basically lovers
>First kiss
>Defended Naruto when Sakura called him an orphan
>Gave him food against kakashi orders
>Teamwork against zabusa
>Trained together like bros the climbing tree arc
>Gave his life to save him from Haku
>Team work against the rain ninjas
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>>282812553
in the anime he says Naruto is dickless/ball-less in the dub. dunno why they changed it for the manga.
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>>282813088
>never paid attention in class
>have no idea how chakra works
>have the worst chakra control even before orochimaru's bootleg seal
>still somehow master a technique that the most genius ninja in the history of the village took years to get right but still couldn't properly master
Okay.
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>>282813212
water balloons ninja genius
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>>282813212
he is a doer not a reader. Once he understands the concept he can basically do anything. He just needs to be pointed in the right direction and have some kind of foot up his ass to keep him going. The village, school, and the 3rd just failed him as a child
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>>282813212
And again, one of sheer chakra control, his weakest points
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>>282813248
The problem is that he never understands anything. Jiraiya explicitly tells him not to bother with that shit and to just use his massive chakra pool instead.
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>>282813180
as expected. Naruto and Sasuke are the reincarnations of Hashirama and Madara, who surely were a pair of gays.
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>>282813273
he did understand stuff or at least well enough to replicate it even if he was lacking in theory, but in general Jiraiya looks like a massive retard in hindsight. Kakkashi, Bee, and even the frogs figured out how Naruto worked but the goddamn legendary ninja couldn't. Hell even during rasengan training the cat and mental picturing did a ton of heavy lifting
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>>282813317
This is sad. Everyone Minato trusted his son failed him. At least Kakashi made up for him
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>Naruto is such a fuckwit during the Land of Vegetables arc that even Hinata starts to run out of patience with him
holy shit
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>>282777978
By the way, the original was indeed Sai just asking Naruto if he had a dick
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>>282806188
Thank you OP.
Sakura trying to mediate between her team members, even if played for the hypocritical joke, is neat, in this period she was really good, probably because Sasuke isn't in the story.
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>>282813404
what
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>>282805632
Tsunade is such a bad leader
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>>282813486
You’re just saying that bc she’s a Woman. If it was Kakashi you would go
>damn I hate these elders! They’re so hard on poor Kakashi
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>>282805742
>>282805759
>Danzo... ENTER!
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>>282813502
Everyone shits on Kakashi for showing so much favoritism towards Sasuke though
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>>282813478
episode 187-191 of the original series, Naruto Hinata and Choji are tasked with protecting a caravan of merchants as they go into a country that's recently fallen to a coup. At multiple points Naruto says/does some stupid shit that gets on everyone's nerves, and even Hinata scowls and gets a little snippy with him. Choji also gets a loli gf
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>>282806438
truke
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>>282813525
post proof
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>>282813546
who even cares, it's anime filler
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>>282813546
first few minutes of episode 188, if you want a specific example. Naruto gets weird about ramen during a serious discussion and she basically tells him to stop goofing off and focus.
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>>282805923
now that you mention it naruto had to figure out rasengan and summoning on his own. Jiraiya then took the credit
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>>282813502
Kakashi pardoned Orochimaru and Kabuto, just sayin'.
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>>282806188
Sai is too based for this team
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>>282813555
Anime filler is the best part.
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Naruto is a kinesthetic learner, a guy who learns by physical application through hands on effort. He’s not an academic type like Sakura or a nerd, nor can he follow a traditional teaching system. Also, Minato invented the jutsu from scratch which is much harder than just learning it. Naruto is basically a talented genius with gaps of retardation from chapter 1 onward, he just has to grasp a concept before making it work for him.
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>>282805759
Do you think Kishi was already planning on giving him hax implants from the start or was he just supposed to be a cripple?
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>>282813555
t. tertiary that only cares about the ushithas
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>>282813502
They all hop on the Kishimoto hate women train, but she’s the only one who actually bonds with a ninja village and actually cares about Naruto. She is heaps above Hiruzen and the 4th, who died only in a week. She is also better than Kakashi and doesn’t create harmful shit like Tobirama did
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Is there a sexier naruta than sarada? is there a higher genetic ideal?
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>>282813755
it's certainly funny how shameless the Boruto mangaka is about his lolita complex.
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also, in this land of vegetables arc, they basically predicted Kisame's trump card during his fight with Bee.
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>>282813799
How so? It's been a long time since I watched that arc.
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>>282813812
one of the bad guy's attacks is a water prison-type move he uses as a shield that follows him around, and he also will create one that he then fills with summoned sharks and piranhas to attack anyone caught in it.
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>>282813765
drawing a 15/16yo childsoldier add eyecandy isn't exactly a radical departure from norms. especially when it actually reflects her character (single parent causing her to act overly mature to compensate for lack of parental affection, hyperfixated on goal to ignorance of emotions, sense of betrayal by everyone in the world and the only ones who can understand are the dad who was never there for you and left again, the girl who loves the guy you love and is a dick about your feelings, and the one you love who has been gone for your post pubescent life)

plus it's hot and I'll take it over big boobba grammas any day
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>>282813882
he drew her hypersexualised even when she was around 12.
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>>282813914
yeah i do agree with that lol, that skirt was downright disturbing. that character was so clearly a kid-- like the rest of them, esp in the anime-- that i mostly just ignored all the sexualization, but it's def there
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>>282813755
just like her mom, she was hotter before the timeskip
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>>282806188
Thx
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>>282813949
pedo opinion, also just wrong, on both counts. sakura is mid pre and becomes cute in spite of herself after. sarada looks and acts like a child before and looks like a semen demon after
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>>282814025
virtue signaling
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>>282814037
preferring prepubescents is not only fag signalling, but doing so without the balls to just be gay
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>>282814073
>instantly swerves to projecting his homosexuality
saw that one coming!
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oh look, yet another oneesan who falls for kid Naruto
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>>282814093
yeah man nothing straighter than liking girls that look like boys and aren't mentally developed. at least I'm gay enough to acknowledge i like women who look boyish after they've developed into, i dunno, women?

you don't gotta stop being gay... just stop being delusional and admit it if what you're into is not women
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>>282814122
one of the worse imo. it's too bad naruto's ideal (hinata + sakura + kurama) is his daughter
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Ramen won
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>>282814148
ideal woman, i mean. his ideal is Sasuke, obviously
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>>282814131
you didn't know sarada was a girl before the timeskip?
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>>282814148
I just find Naruto's batting average for older women to be amusing. Practically every named older woman he interacts with regularly develops some level of affection for him in a way girls his age generally don't. Of all the girls who have developed feelings for him, the overwhelming majority were noticeably older than him.
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>>282814165
didnt say that, but pedophiles are of a degenerated mental state, so I'm not gonna hold illiteracy against you
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>>282814187
you just said you thought she looked like a boy

did someone else need to tell you that she was a girl?
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>>282811763
Who is funding the Root? Who is paying these guys?
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>>282814208
is appearance essence? does 'x, a prepubescent girl, looks like boy' equivalent to 'x is not a girl'?

or are you a pedo being wilfully stupid to try to reach the mental capacities of your fetish? either way you should try having physical relations with a human, male or female, at some point-- it'll help straighten out your degenerate thoughts. it's not too late for you
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>>282814296
you must have been real confused when you saw sarada in a skirt since she looked like a boy to you
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>>282814122
holy shit I was kinda just joking but she actually does openly propose to him at the end of the arc
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*teleports in front of you*
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>>282814412
hayai
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>>282814313
to quote someone smarter than you (who is a pedo, and therefore lowest of all):
>is appearance essence? does 'x, a prepubescent girl, looks like boy' equivalent to 'x is not a girl'?
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>>282814187
>pedophiles are of a degenerated mental state
Source?
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>>282814412
This shit is pure cancer for the story.
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>Danzo seethes about becoming Hokage since he was a boy
>Danzo sends assassins to kill Hiruzen
>the plot gets revealed, Hiruzen does nothing about this
>Orochimaru kills Hiruzen
>For the first time ever Danzo has total freedom to claim the title
>He's not even guilty of the assassination this time
>Does nothing
can someone explain this character to me
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>>282814454
source: me, not a pedophile, and therefore an innately better and smarter person than you, a pedophile

if one is attracted to prepubescents, then they are worse than one who is not, and the proof of this is that it is the conviction of one who is not attracted to prepubescents, and therefore a better and more intelligent conviction than one belonging to one who is attracted to prepubescents, and therefore lower than one who is not...
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>>282814454
doesn't follow the law = mental illness
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>>282814524
>prepubescents
>Sarada
For someone smarter than me you don't seem to know the meaning of words you use.
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>>282814531
Sarada is legal where I live tho
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>>282814172
Outside of filler I don't believe this to be true.
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>>282814565
is 11 or 12 year old sarada post-pubescent?
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>>282814577
Outside of fillers Naruto barely interacts with anyone in a meaningful manner.
I believe that if one were to catalog every exchange Naruto ever had with all characters on page, you'd have 90% of dialogue being with Team 7 / Jiraiya / Tsunade, and every other character would have maybe ten lines of dialogue each AT MOST.
In the previous arc he seemed total chum with Gaara and I don't think he exchanged more than five lines of dialogue with him previously
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>>282814577
Anko, Tsunade, and Shizune all are pretty outwardly fond of him in the canon. Kushina also flirts with him in a distinctly un-motherly way.
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>>282814621
You mentioning Kushina just shows you have a hentai addiction. Nothing more.
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>>282814621
and regardless, the amount of times it happens in filler/movies is also suspect enough to be deliberate on the part of Pierrot's writing staff.
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>>282814585
1 or 2 is prepubescent
Everything else is not
Value for yourself
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>>282814639
>mothers and sons openly talking about love and romance and how attractive the other one is is totally normal behaviour
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>>282814643
>kyphotic golems
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>>282814660
>schizo rambling
the average pedophobe I guess
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>>282814648
My mother forced me to do this since I was a toddler, growing up.
I am not well
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>>282814511
Old farts where fixating on "Muuuh Senin" at the time.
>Why didn't he shisui them into compliance
It wasn't retconned into existence yet.
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When do we get to an arc where Kishi isn't low-key shilling the anime?
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>>282814610
That's true
>>282814621
You instead are really reaching.
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>>282814643
>>282814667
I'm clearly not gonna change your mind, so I just want to emphasize: everyone hates you, but not nearly as much as you hate you. keep it up and at best you'll die in reprehensible self-loathing, at worst you'll bring others down with you and face consequences for it in your lifetime. but if you change, then you, and those who you pathetically dream of hurting, will not only be bettered for it, but also your disgusting self will be unidentifiable with the base desires you presently entertain
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>>282814835
it accelerates from here until TBV
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>>282814848
>stop having fun
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>>282806322
you may just have shit taste
>>282807315
agreed but so is her design here in early part 2. Only later with all the coats and war shit going on is she actually downgraded
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>filler introduced a clan of redheads who just so happened to be named Kurama, years before the kyuubi's name was revealed
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>>282814864
textbook projection
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>>282814864
But I love myself
You're the bigot here
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>>282814982
>Kishimoto stole from the anime
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>>282814982
>>282814982
>Final filler arc of Part I Naruto featured a villain who literally looks like an Otsutsuki who used one of his minions as a vessel to revive himself and prior in the arc his minions had advanced weapons where one of the weapons can absorb chakra and when all the weapons are put together it gives the user floating orbs that glow.
Uh, bros?
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>>282814864
>everyone
Speak for yourself. I don't hate him.
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>>282815079
I'm beginning to think >>282815062 might be true
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That anon was 100% correct. The manga just became a storyboard for the anime.
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>>282814948
Never said that, just said it's a reach, I usually ignore the meming.
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>>282815163
A bad storyboard, even.
Look at picrel how clear and unwasted every panel is and compare to Kishi's average page
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>>282815098
>>282815047
>>282815028
I'm proud to be bigoted against pedofreaks, and i advise changing yourself in silence, since most people in real life won't be patient enough to tell you why you're wrong. i want what's best for you; they'll want you to eat dirt

>>282815163
as long as the anime is well-made, i don't see the problem with this. the material is clearly better represented in animation
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>>282815261
>I'm proud to be bigoted against [group I was indoctinated to hate], and i advise changing yourself in silence, since most people in real life won't be patient enough to tell you why you're wrong. i want what's best for you; they'll want you to eat dirt
An actual fascist
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>>282815261
>as long as the anime is well-made
Who's gonna tell her
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>>282815195
the 'drawing conclusions' is part of the fun. notice a Minot pattern, extrapolate it to other parts of the series that can feasibly fit the mould because it's fun. just like is being done here >>282815079
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>>282807039
Because letting Sasuke actually get a proportionate bit of revenge that also helps fix things with Konoha's structure would have been like passing a kidney stone for Kishimoto the nationalist.
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>>282807039
Because how would Sasuke be allowed back in the village if he murdered their elders?
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>>282815314
he did take care of the guy who bore ultimate responsibility for his personal problems. as far as revenge for his family being killed, that was accomplished with Danzo's death.
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>>282806300
People like you are why Boruto and MHA are what they are. You want these boring characters with boring problems. Then you complain that they have no personality. For me, it was Kishimoto breaking kayfabe. Writing outside the Shonen Jump guidelines for “correct” character writing. He put all that in the voice of this character who is supposed to be a villain. He's unfeeling and shit, he couldn't give those thoughts to characters we're supposed to root for. Another thing is that Kishimoto made him sexy to gather popular appeal, and hold onto the character longer.
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>>282814412
why Sasuke is so /fa/?
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>>282813440
It means the same thing. It might even be worse with cultural context.
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>>282815324
The same way he was after killing their acting kage.
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>>282815314
It's wild to think that the manga/anime that for at least a little while was the most popular manga/anime in the West was so blatantly filled with fascist subtext.
In Japan it's kinda accepted that some authors will go that way, but here is bonkers to even consider
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>>282815327
Sasuke and Sakura take Naruto by the balls more than once.
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>>282815314
> KISHIMOTO
> nationalist
Naruto ends with the message “diversity is our strength.” Totally out of sync with the new globalist Right. Which has all that “diversity is evil” stuff.
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>>282805759
>character that's never been mentioned or alluded to before is introduced in the middle of the story and everybody acts as if they have always known him
One of the most blatant examples of shit writing. This doesn't just apply to Naruto btw.
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>>282815363
people naturally have a strong ingroup preference when they're not being propagandised towards hating their own kith and kin. Because Naruto never explicitly addresses the concept, it never activates the 'antifascist' response westerners have ingrained into them.
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>>282815382
It's different. In early Naruto, the character is not respected. Sakura is also a nobody. But in part 2? Naruto is a Konoha hero, Sakura is respected as one of the top-tier kunoichi. Sai's comments are meta-comments. Making him a kind of “unreliable” character allows him to have outsider behavior.
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>>282805976
>Ino had more of a reaction to see Naruto again after the ts than Sakura did
What did Kishi mean by this?
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>>282815436
when Sai is introduced Naruto hasn't done anything except save Gaara, something only the people involved in that mission know about.
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>>282815416
The problem with Danzo is that within the narrative, the events from the beginning of part 2 until Pain's invasion take place over a period of a few months. But for us readers, it was almost 10 years. That's why Danzo's plot sounds so far-fetched. Even more so with the role Kishimoto gave him, as Sarutobi's shadow. It ends up taking a lot of the weight off Sarutobi's actions.
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>>282815454
What do you mean? Sakura had a whole chapter.
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>>282815454
Pig crushing on the Fox hard
after the Pain arc she even goes mask-off and admits she likes him (the story brushes it under the rug and then has her paired off with Sai)
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>>282806074
God I hate this character so fucking much.
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>>282815396
If you read actual fascist textbooks written by those who codified fascism and not current political newsreel propaganda, you'll quickly see that racial separatism was a minor concern for most fascists, with Hitler being the most notable exception (but Hitler is a way later adopter of fascism compared to Mussolini and other political writers of the time); the "Nation" is an ideal, the State is more important than you race.
Read "The Doctrine of Fascism" by Mussolini
>The Fascist conception of life is a religious one, in which man is viewed in his immanent relation to a higher law, endowed with an objective will transcending the individual and raising him to conscious membership of a spiritual society.
For a classical nationalist the fact that you are devoted to the State is way more relevant that the race you happen to be born in; in fact the Racial Laws that Mussolini made to appease the German ally were met with much resistance by the more radical fascist wing of his own party due to the contradictory nature of the law against the spiritual component of fascist ideology.
So nah, Kishi is perfectly fascist in his own way
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>>282815469
> Naruto saved Konoha from Shukaku.
> Naruto isn't known as a hero.
You're joking, right?
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>>282815486
>after the Pain arc she even goes mask-off and admits she likes him
That was only in the anime.
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>>282815436
>But in part 2? Naruto is a Konoha hero
Naruto is still a nobody for 99% of the population, anything he did was either away from the village, known only by the few characters who were there or of minor importance for Konoha at large
>Sakura is respected as one of the top-tier kunoichi
She lives in the village and is the personal pupil of the Hokage, the Sannin. Of course she'll get respected as such when people everyday see her being considered so exceptional that Tsunade takes special care of her.
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>>282815524
nobody except Tsunade, Sasuke, and Sakura were aware of that.
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>>282815524
>Naruto saved Konoha from Shukaku
>nobody saw this beside Sasuke
>Sasuke leaves
>this is never brought up again
Do people even have to opportunity to know that Naruto defeated Shukaku?
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>>282815528
The anime fillers have to be canon, seeing how Kishimoto references them
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Why didn’t Naruto summon the giant toad against Deidara or Sasori?
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>>282815595
Kishi forgot he could do that
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>>282815595
He didn’t master that yet. It eats too much chakra
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>>282815595
He frogot
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>>282815595
You’re not supposed to remember that.
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>>282815604
>too much chakra for Naruto
What manga have you been reading
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Why didn’t Naruto leave behind some shadow clones to help Chiyo & Sakura against Sasori?
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>>282815635
He didn’t master that yet. It eats too much chakra
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>>282815635
He was in the middle of a retard episode due to the rage at seeing Gaara's corpse. I will defend Kishimoto on this, seeing Deidara fly away got him into a pinch and was not in the mental space to think straight.
Sure, this bond with Gaara came up out of thin air, but let's be generous for once.
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>>282815668
I love how this arc unfolds. Deidara dropping a fucking bomb on the city? That's how villains should be written. But beyond that, Kishimoto does everything he can to lose that momentum. From nonsensical pairings (Sakura and Chiyo) to pointless fights (clones).
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>>282815552
>>282815567
Though somehow the gossip mill found out about it according to an Ebisu flashback a hundred chapters from now.
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>>282815668
If Naruto was truly in rage he wouldn’t have watched as Deidara eats Gaara lifts off and flies out of the cave exit Naruto was standing in. He just stood there mouth agape
>awww shucks…better go chase him for 10+ minutes
Guy can spawn 1000+ clones. He can throw shurikens that can transform into him. He did NOTHING. ZERO EFFORT to save Gaara.
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>>282815703
>Deidara dropping a fucking bomb on the city? That's how villains should be written.
Gaara sacrificing himself to protect Suna is also the most heroic a Kage is shown to be in the manga. Crazy how fast the arc goes to shit
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>>282815711
Hey, that was clearly the idea, not my fault Kishi's shit at making stuff happen organically on page
>Guy can spawn 1000+ clones
About 90% of the problems in the manga should be solved almost immediately by this, yet Kishi wants you to forget the MC's signature jutsu
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>>282815731
One problem I have with how Akatsuki is written is that, with the exception of Itachi and Konan, the entire Akatsuki is not above using underhanded strategies, and I think all fights should have casualties or take place in locations with civilians. I hate it when they fight on that Toei mountain. It's just lazy writing. People who don't want to draw backgrounds or want the easy way out when writing.
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>>282815754
Kek 2k Naruto barrage would neg diff Sasori’s 100 puppets
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>>282815635
Wouldn't a giant toad get instantly assfucked by one of the poison railgun shots from Sasori?
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>>282815731
>Gaara sacrificing himself to protect Suna is also the most heroic a Kage is shown to be in the manga.
The third hokage dying to arochimaru wasn't heroic?
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>>282815774
>all of my puppets are armed with poison blades
>who cares, they're clones
>I have 100 puppets
>I have 1000 myselves
>I can use poisoned iron sand
>oh no, my clones #654, #783 and #901! Anyways...
>I have... uh, a contraption in my abdomen that makes me go all Spiderman and shit...
>we're ninja, we can walk on water
>MY REAL BODY CAN SHIFT AROUND MY PUPPETS AND UNLESS IT'S DESTROYED I'M IMMORTAL
>cool, catch these 300 Rasengan and see how much of your 100 puppets remain
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>>282815754
Kishi admitted he regretted giving Naruto the ability to make so many shadow clones, and went out of his way to have him not use the ability because of how busted it is.
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>>282815820
Honestly the iron sand and the needles should still slaughter
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>>282815820
>implying that the big iron sand move wouldn't negdiff every clone + Naruto at the same time
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>>282815814
No, a shitty teacher who let his clearly evil student do his evil stuff for decades, let him get away and then got to face the consequences of his action is not heroic, is reaping what you saw.
Also, Oro never threatened to destroy the village like Deidara did; Gaara could have ignored the lives of Suna and could have won, Deidara was having troubles, he chose to die for them, something that Hiruzen never had to do, hell Oro made a super barrier around them so that only their close area would have been effected by the shit going on inside
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>>282813700
>doesn’t create harmful shit like Tobirama did
Literally the only reason Pain nuked the village was because she was a retard that instigated him.
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>>282815814
Oro x Sarutobi is more on the emotional side of things. It's a great fight, but it lacks the scale of Gaara x Deidara.
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>>282815843
>>282815852
The iron sand failed to catch Sakura and Chiyo, it's doing shit against 1000 targets that can be sacrificed for almost no cost
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>>282815871
Those two are at least briefly hyped up as being good at dodging as opposed to Naruto who has gone through the manga eating more hits than he dodges.
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>>282815853
Orochimaru wanted to destroy the village, that's why he tried to bait Gaara into going crazy during the Chuunin exams so he'd awaken Shukaku and nuke everything. He put up the barrier to keep outsiders from interfering with his battle with Sarutobi.
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>>282811392
Jiraiya...
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>>282815906
Still, Hiruzen got in that position due to his own incompetence.
Gaara was forced into the position by his birth and gave up his life for people who hated him all of his life so far.
I still mantain that Gaara stopping Deidara with his sacrifice is the most heroic act an Hokage did in the manga; Hiruzen may be heroic in the sense that he corrected a mistake he made and let grow too much, and even then Oro had to come directly to him, it's not like Hiruzen proactively got off his ass and did it, he was too busy looking at orphans suffering with his crystal ball
>Minato and the fox
Minato committed suicide for no reason, it's not heroic it's idiotic
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I forgot to axe this question few chapters ago.
What was Deidara’s plan anyway? Where was he leading Naruto and Kakashi?
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>>282813023
Yeah, because Naruto was still seen as the loser of the two.
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>>282815981
>What was Deidara’s plan anyway
The mission was to retrieve Shukaku, and they succeeded. He was running away due to Gaara taking his arm and him being almost out of clay, he was waiting for Sasori to kill the women and come to assist him with Naruto and Kakashi
>what about Team Guy
Yeah what about them, I wonder too
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>>282816013
Let’s say Sasori won. How would they meet up again? Do they have skype on them?
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>>282816028
>Do they have skype on them?
Seeing how they can communicate telepathically during the Extraction Ritual at great distance, yes
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>>282815841
I thought it was because it was killer on his wrist.
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>>282816028
Sasori probably makes an iron sand sculpture to get Deidara's attention.
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>>282815984
which is stupid because Naruto had saved both her and Sasuke several times at that point, and at one point during the chuunin exams Sakura even called Sasuke a coward for hesitating and needing Naruto to save him.
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>>282813317
Naruto should've spent those 3 years training with that Cat instead.
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>>282814073
>>282814093
Ladies, you're both ugly, just hold hands.
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>Ok Naruto, over the next two years I’m gonna teach you how to tap into your inner demon even easier than before so you can crash out and put people close to you in even more danger, whenever your fee fee’s get hurt.
>Sounds good?
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>>282816160
>crash out
it's fascinating how zoomers have completely reversed the meaning of some slang
growing up, 'crashing out' meant you were out of energy and falling asleep. "I just pulled an all-nighter and am about to crash out"
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>>282814454
Biologically speaking, through years of evolution your body and mind are supposed to make you attracted to women with well developed curves, because those possess the highest probability of siring a healthy child without putting either the mother or child at fatal risk.
Similarly, women are also supposed to be more attracted to developed men because those would be the best protection from danger.
Not to mention the sickening powertrip aspect of pedophilia.
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>>282814621
Anko doesn't interact with Naruto after the exams, you think that lick was supposed to make her "fond of him".
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>>282816398
>lusts for him so aggressively she injests his blood just so she can have any part of him inside of her
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I guess Anbu is FBI while Root is CIA?
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>>282816470
both are agencies primarily focused on external intelligence gathering. they both broadly similar to the CIA.
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>>282816470
No, ANBU is black ops covert agents, so CIA
ROOT is a private organization led by someone who has no official standing with the government and that for some reason the President has given funds towards because he's friends with the leader
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>>282815524
>>282815548
>>282815552
>>282815567
>>282815707
I suppose that's secret info and only tokubetsu and above were allowed to learn it.
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>>282816535
CIA are also an executive agency with enough jurisdictional discretion that they can operate pretty much independently of the feds. Which has gotten them in hot water before, because they fucked around and screwed up some diplomatic thing the federal government was working on at the time.
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>>282816541
>I suppose that's secret info
The fact that the state was attacked by a foreign country living nuke, its leader killed by a someone who was masquerading as the leader of said foreign country in a terrorist attack, and nothing came out of this, was never brought up again, nodoby seem to care is baffling to me
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>>282816086
Naruto doesn't actually get the chance to save Sakura until part 2 or post chunin exams part 1 Filler if you wanna go there.
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>>282816567
Yes, the difference being that CIA is still a government, federal agency
ROOT is literally a private division that Danzo made up and controlled 100% of while receiving funds from the village
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>>282806074
I can't remember anything interesting about Yamato besides the two times he sealed the 9 tails
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>>282816605
on the bridge in the land of waves, Sasuke gets bodied and Naruto is who turns the fight around. Sakura is fully aware of this. then in the forest of death when Sasuke freezes up, Naruto jumps in and stops Orochimaru's snake from eating him. and Sakura calls Sasuke out for this.
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>>282816659
>Sakura is fully aware of this.
Shit was foggy as fuck, i really doubt Sakura actually figured out it was Naruto who beat Haku.
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>>282816633
He was sent to assassinate Hiruzen by Danzo.
Nothing came out of it.
Kakashi rattled the plot out to Hiruzen, took Hiruzen's aspect, defeated Yamato in the ambush and, in one of the most retarded plot points in Naruto, Hiruzen did nothing to both Danzo nor Yamato about the actual assassination attempt against him.
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>>282816698
Hiruzen knows he will be blamed for all the shit he did if Danzo isn't around.
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>>282816694
the fact Sasuke was down and Naruto was still standing was clear enough evidence.
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>>282816804
>Hashirama lets Madara run wild and do all sort of shit
>Tobirama is pure schizo, inventing kamikaze necromancy and children battle royale
>Hiruzen has a laundy list of total scum behaviour
>Minato served less than a year and was a psycho who killed himself, so didn't have enough time to do evil stuff
>Tsunade is retarded and put the village's safety in jeopardy every day of her presidency
>Kakashi used his position to for extreme favoritism and personal manners, did everything to not work and then fucked off as soon as possibile
>Naruto is Naruto
Man, Hokage are all shits
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>>282816873
You expect Kishimoto to write Sakura with critical thinking.
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>>282816460
shillfic anon please
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>>282816659
>Sasuke gets bodied
Saving Naruto, just like before he saved him from the chunins,Sakura has good reasons to believe Sasuke reliable.
Also Sakura wasn't with them at the time.
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>>282816986
except Haku was still standing at that point. Regardless, you're ignoring the fact he saved her and Sasuke when they faced Orochimaru and she openly commentated on it. Not to mention his fight with Neji, who was supposed to be the top genin in the village (stated to be stronger than Lee, who thrashed Sasuke in front of her).
>people unironically trying to make excuses for Sakura continually underestimating Naruto well after he's proven himself in front of her
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>>282817051
Haku was killed by Kakashi, just because Naruto was still standing unlike Sasuke, that doesn't mean Sakura will think or assume Naruto did most of the work.
>Someone could've told her
Lol, lmao.
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>>282817051
No, it's retarded how the narrative keeps pretending Naruto is the underdog (and how he's constantly forced in that role, having to be saved by Choji last chapter and jobbing horrendously to sasuke this arc), but Sakura wasn't there for most of Naruto's great moments and Sasuke had many too.
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>>282817051
Naruto didn't save them from Oro irc, unless you mean like a time where he just took his attention out of them.
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Naruro never weaponized the fact that his shadow clones can spawn 20+ meters away from him.
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>>282806044
wait, so he only gains the yamato-name now? Then what was that Yamato Works stuff about, I thought that was supposed to hint at his wood abilites
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>>282817294
Rereading Naruto I don't see the underdog being what he's painted as. Sure, he's the underdog when they go against some of the strongest ninja around and when he tries to punch above his belt, but he's depicted since chapter one as a giant powerhouse who was failed by the system, segregated from a normal life and suffers from chronic retardation. He's not weak, compared to his peers, he's an untrained ninja genius with arrested development
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>>282817293
it's pretty obvious that if Sasuke had beaten Haku, he wouldn't still be standing, or he would've followed up by killing Naruto (who in this scenario wouldn't have it in him to hold off Haku on his own). the only logical conclusion is that Haku had killed Sasuke, and then Naruto beat him onto his back foot in retaliation.

>>282817294
Sasuke really didn't in part 1, at least not in Sakura's line of sight. the only major W he scored in front of her was when he let his curse mark take over for the first time and he clobbered the sound ninja. and that more made her scared than proud of his accomplishment.

>>282817372
are you forgetting when Sasuke was frozen stiff and Orochimaru turned his snake on Sasuke? Naruto jumped in, stopped the snake, and fired Sasuke's "scaredy cat" line back at him. Then Sakura berates Sasuke for being a coward unlike Naruto.
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>>282817439
When Kishi wrote the previous chapter he already had the character of Yamato chosen and ready to be Kakashi's replacement.
When be wrote the dialogue with Tsunade he made up on the spot that Tsunade gave him an alias and totally forgot that Yamato's name already appeared in a background detail, because it sounded cool in his mind, just like he'll later totally forget that Yamato is not his real name.
Or, the background detail was made by an assistant and Kishi didn't give a fuck
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>>282817459
Since the chunins exams, Kishi saw people really liked Rock Lee and Hinata's plot line on Naruto, that's the tsunade arc really hammers on your head about how much of a shitter Naruto is even though that makes no sense when you consider his previous accomplishments.
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>>282806288
Switch Sakura and Hinata and you're right.
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>>282817499
>the only logical conclusion is that Haku had killed Sasuke, and then Naruto beat him onto his back foot in retaliation.
OR that Haku saw Zabuza was about to be killed and stopped fighting Naruto before finishing the job.
>are you forgetting when Sasuke was frozen stiff and Orochimaru turned his snake on Sasuke?
That's saving just Sasuke, not him and Sakura.
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>>282817525
*that's why
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>>282813052
That's my post. Weird.
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It's jarring seeing Neji being hyped up as the biggest prodigy in Hyuuga history and Gaara being so strong that not even jonins could beat WITHOUT Shukaku helping but then Naruto beats them both in the same day but the story and characters treat it like it's no biggie.
Only Sasuke actually acknowledges how insanely gifted Naruto is for that.
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>>282817525
But in the Tsunade arc it made sense that Naruto was a shitter compared to the monsters around him, the Three Sannin and Kabuto, who are among the strongest characters in the setting
Later it gets weirder and weirder
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>>282812703
You can just say you're gay
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>>282817645
Yeah Gaara might have been a state secret, but the audience saw Neji get humiliated
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>>282817645
Naruto, Neji, and Gaara have gains from all the training they did. Orochimaru taught Sasuke snake magic and sorcery which helped him against Deidara, Danzo, and Itachi. Even if he's weaker than Naruto, he can stay ahead thanks to skill.
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>>282817706
Except Naruto isn't being compared to the sanin or the jonin fighters but rather his peers.
"You're average Naruto, you'll never reach the skills of someone like Sasuke!" Like Naruto didn't beat Hyuuga Sasuke then went on to beat a guy that wiped the floor with Sasuke.
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>>282817550
Haku got knocked out of his mirror igloo long before then. Sakura and Kakashi both sensed the big surge of chakra well before Haku stepped into Kakashi's path. They were aware something big had happened.

>he only saved Sasuke
and in the process diverted attention away from Sakura. why are you pretending like it doesn't count unless he explicitly saved Sakura's life? you think she didn't see him?
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>>282817645
the village goes crazy after Naruto's fight, the entire crowd is cheering and everyone was talking about how strong he was and how he blew away everyone's expectations.
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>>282814648
I'm sorry your mother didn't love you.
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>>282817781
>They were aware something big had happened.
Sakura doesn't know about Kurama yet, no reason to assume she would think that's Naruto's doing.
>why are you pretending like it doesn't count unless he explicitly saved Sakura's life?
Because Sakura wasn't even in Sasuke's general direction at the moment.
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>>282817793
I meant after that arc.
But even then, people were noticeable more hyped for Sasuke anyway lmao.
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>>282808058
from a writing perspective, if this is just about including a character on the team who is loyal to Tsunade, why not just use Shizune instead of creating a completely new character? Just say she learned the biju-suppression-technique form Tsunade way back in the day. Shizune already has a strong connection to the first hokage necklace and we already know from the sasuke retrieval arc that she is good at sealing jutsu
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>>282816885
>Tobirama is pure schizo, inventing kamikaze necromancy and children battle royale
are youfrom uchigger ghetto? lord tobirama was a genius who made the foundation for the prosperity of the village
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>>282817963
Jokes aside why are we against his chunin exams? Killing wasn't required in any part and it was considered weird to send kids there
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>>282817913
Because both he and Sai are supposed to be glowies
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>>282817837
my point was she knew something had happened. if it was Sasuke, then Haku would've stepped into Zabuza's fight earlier. it it was Haku, Naruto should be dead too. it only makes logical sense for it to have been Naruto reacting to Sasuke dying.
>she wasn't in his direction
she literally saw it happen and commented on it. By your own logic she would think she's as good as dead if Sasuke got taken out, because "Naruto can't be relied on".
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>>282817913
>Making a woman the authority figure over Naruto as Kakashi's substitute
Kishi would have suffered a stroke
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>>282818044
Because it's fun.
Also, if you exclude the necromancy it's too funny that Tobirama was actually the best and least crazy Hokage.
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>>282813088
It's an A-rank difficulty. Rasenshuriken is S-rank.
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>>282805632
I though Pain proved this point?
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>>282818456
He even forbid the necromancy.
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>>282818491
Yes, he even forbid the Kage Bushin and the FTG too.
Guy was actually a good guy, he was on the spectrum and Uchiha were his hyperfixation tho
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>>282818386
Anon, i guarantee you that Sakura thought Sasuke did most of the work and right after being defeated he went to save Zabuza instead of finishing off Naruto.
She did not put that much thought there.
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>>282818584
He forbid mass shadow clone, not normal shadow clone AFAIK.
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>>282815863
And yet it turned out to be the best case scenario because that's the only reason they managed to beat Pain
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>>282818473
Didn't jiraya say that it was as hard as an s rank to learn? Ok the point stand
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>>282818692
Yes, the corporeal one.
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>>282818852
No, no. Mass shadow clone jutsu and shadow clone jutsu are different techniques. Shadow clones (kage bunshin) are just tangible bodies that even Kakashi can make. It's the mass shadow clone jutsu (tajuu kage bunshin) that is forbidden because it creates hundreds or even thousands of clones and would likely kill any user that doesn't have Naruto's unlimited chakra build.
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>>282818456
there's nothing immoral about state regulated necromancy
lord tobirama just understood that ninja society wasn't ready for that kind of responsibility yet
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>>282818722
That's not because of her, she still acted like an incompetent moron.
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I wish we saw Tobirama using edo tensei.
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>>282818921
Oh, you're right
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>>282819246
>Edo Tensei is just a copy of the soul
>Edo Tobirama Edo Tensei another Tobirama
>Edo Tensei Edo Tensei Tobirama Edo Tensei another Tobirama while Edo Tensei Tobirama makes another one
>Edo Tensei Tobirama exponential growth
>This continues until the number of living sacrifices is lower than the lower limit of the Edo Tobirama growth function
>the exponential growth stops and becomes linear
>mfw the entire planet is just generations of Edo Tensei Tobirama
>at the end the OG Edo Tensei Tobirama smiles
>100% Uchiha-free world
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>>282819121
The village has too many orphans to be tempted to bring their parents back to life.
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>>282819397
Tobirama had nothing to do about the currenly living orphans tho
Hiruzen, on the other hand...
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Dailyramen sucks
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The average IQ of ramen haters is 76 btw
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You are my friend!
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>>282806893
he did try to use all of his influence, and was cockblocked multiple times by the feudal lord and his council being wishy washy dullards.
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Only sub 60 IQ retards defend dailyramen since he's on their wavelength lol
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And my point was she's a soulless retard if she thought that way. Anyone with an IQ above 95 could tell the timeframe doesn't match up. It's implied to be at least a minute or two from the time Naruto lets loose to when Haku intercepts the Chidori. plenty of time for him to have killed Naruto if he were strong enough to put Sasuke down, in Sakura's view.

Thinking about it, I'm pretty sure Sasuke tells her that he couldn't do shit and had to hand the fight off to Naruto.
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the Kurenai arc also had a quick shot up her weird dress thing.
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I like how whenever Naruto is paired with Neji, they tend to synergise really well with each other. polar opposites, but excellent teamwork
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>>282819428
Lord Hiruzen was giving orphans their own apartments!



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