Best girl entrance tonight! I'm so excited!
>>283939751The artstyle and animation look pretty bad though in the preview. Ukyo looks so stale.
AAAAAAAHH I SIMPLY CAN'T DECIDE
Akane will die at the age of 26 from her inherited disease
>>283940691this is why bisexuals win
>>283940691Why decide if you literally can have both?
>>283939751It looks like Ukyo is drawn in chibi style.>>283940691We know Ryoga.
>>283941507Does he ever take that bandana off...
>>283940691Ranko. End of discussion.
>>283939751why do we like Ukyo?
>>283943533>why do we like Ukyo?she is the perfect japanese wife here are the reasons1)She's ridiculously likable and chillCompared to the chaos of Akane's tsundere temper, Shampoo's aggressive pursuit, or Kodachi's… everything, Ukyo is calm, mature, friendly, and emotionally stable. She's basically the "normal" fiancée who treats Ranma like a human being instead of a prize or a punching bag.2)Best Girl energy without being a doormatShe's independent, runs her own successful okonomiyaki restaurant as a teenager, and can throw down in a fight with her combat spatula and food-based weapons. Strong, competent, and self-sufficient—fans love a girl who has her life together.3)The tragic unrequited love hits hardShe was ditched by Genma as a little kid, cross-dressed for 10 years to chase revenge, then immediately forgave Ranma and fell for him anyway. That level of loyalty + heartbreak makes people want to root for her extra hard.4)She's genuinely kind and supportiveUkyo is one of the few characters who consistently acts like Ranma's real friend. She helps him out, keeps his secrets, cheers him on, and rarely gets violently jealous (unlike literally everyone else).5)Chef waifu + food-based fighting = peak 90s coolThrowing exploding okonomiyaki, flour bombs, and a giant spatula? The battle-chef gimmick is just fun and memorable. Plus free food.
>>283943704Why do I like Shampoo way more than Ukyo then?
>>283944247you just love bimbos
>>283944346Nah, Ukyo is boring compared to Shampoo.
Watching live now. No regular character intro this time either for some reason.
Very odd outfit change. They usually keep the ones from the manga.
>>283944890Where do you watch that live?
The remake actually does a pretty okay job making Ukyo sound potentially male.
>>283945022It isn't that different.
Anyone surprised they censored this line?
>>283945475What else they removed?
>>283945475Why are they such pussys?
>>283945566They actually kept this one. I'm surprised, I think they've removed very similar lines before.
c-cute...
>>283939751Ranma already got introduced in the very first episode, anon...
>>283940876Nope, she's gonna live a long and happy life with her husband Ranma (now confirmed in the latest fanbook)>>283943533We don't (and neither does Ranma)
where is the episode?
>>283945475They did not censor it.New line is "Tiem to grow up and Man up."
>>283945566Here's one,"uchi no onna no isshou" got changed to "uchi no jinsei"("my life as a woman" to "my life", basically)
Absolutely SEETHING (for good reason)
>>283946068how big was the cleavage?
>>283946769uoooh cute
>>283945475>>283946456>Original: "Tonikaku, okizari ni sareta kuree de oosawagi sun na yo. Otokorashikunee naa!" (Come on, don't make such a fuss just because you got left behind. That's not very manly of you!)>Remake: "Maa, tonikaku, okizari ni sareta kurai de oosawagi sun na yo. Mou chitto kokoro hiroku mottete, nasakenee otoko da naa!"(Come on, don't make such a fuss just because you got left behind. Be a bit more open-minded, you pathetic man!)Can't have people say "manly" in 2025.
>>283946464I used AI to translate Jp text. How accurate is it?
So this is definitely getting cut right? If they are changing lines to sound less sexist there's no fucking way this is getting through
>>283947060Literally it's "my life as a woman got ruined".Viz is fine here, it's what the line functionally means.
>>283946456>censor lines to fit modern western sensibilities>western licensor changes them back again to what they originally wereJesus
>>283947141i hpe not. We gotta keep the Ryouga Rape ranma agenda alive if we wanna reach millions.
>>283946464>>283947058Sure would like to know the names of the people making these pathetic changes.
>>283939751Is today the last episode?
>>283947444dude. 12 eps a season.
>>283947141Oh, they are so going to cut that out, you can count on that.
How do they plan on adapting 161 episodes?
>>283940876>inherited disease>hagyanaitis
Why'd they pick now to start making good episodes? The first few seriously sucked
YES NEXT WEEK RYOGA FIANCE EPISODE I MISSED MY DUDE
This episode was actually pretty good. Some bits were considerably better timed than in the original anime, like the flashback where Ranma chooses okonomiyaki over Ukyo.
>>283943704Does anyone have the image comparing the different Ranma girls?>>283944346>>283944472They're both great actually. The only Ranma girl that isn't is Akane.
>>283948144>The only Ranma girl that isn't is Akane.what does that mean?
>>283948949
>>283948956Is the the remake following the anime or the manga?
>>283949084why would we be now introducing Ukyo if we were following the anime?
>>283949156because you only get 12 episodes per season and she's an essential character.
I can't believe this new season skipped the entirety of the forest chestnut roasting on an open fire training arc.
>>283939751Why doesn't happosai ever molest ukyo?
Happosai ruined the OG anime
Surprised Mappa didnt censor it
>>283949201Reminder>>283949084If you recall the 80s anime it went for hundreds of episodes, of which Ukyo was in. So again, why would be following the anime if we are just [bold]now[/bold] introducing Ukyo?
>>283949796I don't understand the point you are trying to make. Things are naturally going to be rushed because modern anime seasons don't get 100s of episodes anymore.
>>283950116I wonder who will be the main antagonist next Season in 2026 if they are going to rush thing up, Taro?
>>283950219
>>283950116Your question makes it seem like its following the 200 episode anime. Why would it follow the anime when the manga is right there?
>>283949548Huh why would they? Ranma literally unpacks his tits all the time minus the nipples.
>>283950310Plenty of anime split from their manga and into their own continuities. I don't think they'll adapt 400 chapters either.
>>283950219Happosai (Moxibustion arc)
>>283950372>Plenty of anime split from their manga and into their own continuities.Yeah, but this isn't a sequel to the old anime. It's very rare that you see some franchise returning after many years and it's actually tied to the old anime rather than the manga. Especially when it's a different studio. And this was a remake restarting from zero anyway, so obviously it wasn't relying on the old anime.
>>283950458Do you think they'll be faithful to the source material and adapt all 407 chapters or cut it short and split?
>>283950487They've already skipped like 5 arcs.
>>283950372>Plenty of anime split from their manga and into their own continuitiesThat's what the original anime did. DEEN took too a lot of liberties and added so much anime-original content with their adaptation that it felt like a parody of the manga. There's no reason for this remake to follow the 1989 series.>I don't think they'll adapt 400 chapters eitherProbably not. But they'll likely adapt the stories that progress character development and move the overall plot. IIRC the director expressed that he wanted to adapt the manga to the end.
>>283947141The remake won't make this arc any justice sadly...
Fuck Shampoo
>>283950793In the ass
>>283950262I fapped so hard to this chapter
Ranma is so real for that
>>283951139Who is your favorite character? It's kinda hard for me to pick only one desu.
Why does this anime have so much feet in it?
>>283951159Ukyo of course.
They made Ukyo so incredibly likeable I have a feeing they will change the ending and make her win.
>>283942214He has more underneath
>>283951139>>283951159Why is Ranma's dad such a shit? He deserves better.
>>283951534She's a sociopath, don't be deceived
>>283951313Japanese people have more situations where they go barefoot. Also, it's my fetish.
>>283949281Same reason he doesn't usually bother with Shampoo either. They hit hard.
>>283951313Martial arts has a lot of feet in it.
>>283945022I think they just didn't want to deal with the text and pattern since it is animated. I agree it isn't as fashionable, but at least the general idea is the same.
>>283946347Ranma doesn't like Ukyo like that, but I sure do!
I love this aspect of the second season. It is so fun for manga fans.
>>283951534Ukyo was always likeable.
>>283951814I think Akane is stronger than her in terms of brute strength. Ukyo kinda sucks in martial arts outside of her cooking tricks.
My friend is calling Ukyo a Shampoo ripoff.
Hanae and Kentarō make yet another cameo this season. I wonder if they’re planning a remake of Maison Ikkoku. The thing that makes me doubt it is that they can’t really milk that series the way they’ve milked Urusei Yatsura or Ranma, with new figures and all that.
>>283950088I’m almost done with the original Urusei Yatsura series, and it’s neat seeing how many of the ideas and characters from that show were carried over into Ranma. You can practically draw a straight line from Ryūnosuke to her. You can also see how much Takahashi evolved as a mangaka by how much better she utilized these similar concepts in the later series.
>>283953749Seems unlikely. Plus, while the Maison Ikkoku anime wasn't 100% faithful, it was a lot closer than UY and Ranma 1/2. And Inuyasha.
>>283942214He's hiding a tattoo that he got during his travels; he helped some poor dude, and in return, the stranger tattooed a symbol that boosted his resistance.Now I wonder how he and a lot of the characters would look without their bangs.>>283946347Reminder that almost everyone has gone down with Ranma, except Akane.>>283947141Not just that scene, as they refuse to have any OTP moments, except their baths together, but the whole episode. They can't have Akane considering Ryoga better than Ranma.
>>283940942I'm not sure if discovering Ranma when I was 12 contributed to my bi phase or not but it sure didn't help.
This whole chapter won't make it now.Tsubasa gets called a pervert for liking girls, Ranma tries to fix "her" of the gay.
>>283952039How so? I'm out of the loop.Elaborate.All I know is there's a cameo of Akane dancing from the OG opening.
>>283954397Yeah, this has been pointed out in like every thread this season. It's the anti-Modern Audiences arc.
>>283954397Rumiko really liked that joke since she made it again with the ninja dude.
>>283954664Oh, I just mean the little preview of the next episode. Since manga readers know the material, seeing little fan favorite scenes makes me excited.
>>283955409>the little preview of the next episodeHoly shit I had no idea!
>>283954664That episode where the intro segment shows paintings of Ranma and Akane, the Ranma painting showed an anime-only scene from the original anime, with Ranma lying in a pool with cat Shampoo lying on top of him (episode 2 of Nettouhen)
>>283954159That's not Ryoga in that pic
>>283956214Interesting. I've seen the original back then, but I didn't remember that scene.
>>283949201lmao no she's not
>>283951313actually every character that transforms can't wear shoes
>>283954397you have to make a selection of "best episodes". Of course you skip most controversial ones
Why is Ranma so violent with it's own father?>this peiosdeOh, naruhodo
>>283948663that akane sux
>>283956734Rumiko has a superlative gift in making shitbag dads REALLY shitbags.
>>283939751!!!!!I'm not ready anons, hold me!
>>283956586
>>283956898
>>283956925
This guy is improving his directing skills. This season is being way better than the first one.
Watching this episode go by entirely with boy-type Ranma makes me wonder what percent of his screentime for the entire series has him in male form.
>>283956898>>283956925>>283956941Yes I went back and checked it.Thank you anons.>>283957042100% of the time hopefully.
dem plumply loli thighs
>>283957139lmao
I hate how Mappa didn't modernize Ranma. The story would be great if it showed modern inventions like cellphones, computers, trains, etc.Imagine a fight between Ranma and Moose on a train. That would be hilarious. Or Ryoga trying to figure out how to use a cellphone and GPS. it's a missed opportunity to not modernize the show.
>>283956943>This season is being way better than the first one.It really is. Better animation quality helps a lot, too. But the pacing and creativity (they're managing to move beyond panel-for-panel pastes without changing the plot or even most of the lines) is improving noticeably.
>>283957075>100% of the time hopefully.Wait what? Are you saying you'd want to remove the genderbend element from Ranma 1/2?
>>283957194You had me going for a second until>trainsKek.
>>283956943still Lovely Complex is his best effort so far
>>283957194You're probably shitposting but honestly? I don't think they needed to modernize it, but I do think they shouldn't have said "yeah it's set in the '80s"Partly because most of the manga was actually released in the '90s and was intended to be set in the year each chapter was released even then (ex. sometimes background details make it clear the later chapters really are set in the '90s, the characters just never age), but also because Ranma's such a wacky series with so much crazy shit going on that there really aren't many plot points that are so mundane that they could have been easily and completely solved by "well why couldn't they just use their smartphones lmao." Like you can read Ranma for the first time today and it doesn't feel as dated as other series from the same time because it's more about supernatural comedic hijinx than being some mundane SOL mangaI think they shouldn't have put a year at all, and just let people assume what they want. Like if oldfags want to imagine it's set in the '80s, they can do that, if people watching for the first time want to imagine it's current, they can do that tooI think the characters not aging no matter the year it's released in is sort of part of the charm, while giving a hard date like "yeah this all happened about 40 years ago" somehow gives a different vibe. Unless they're building up to show new material with like an epilogue ft. old-ass 2030 Ranma and Akane in the last few minutes of the very last episode, that might be funny
>>283957525Part of it was probably not wanting the Twitter audience screeching about arranged marriages being super problematic.
>>283957580Reiwa Ranma wouldn't hit as hard as Showa/Heisei Ranma does.
AaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhnnnnChristmas came early this year~~~Omedetou~~~~^___^is this what celebrating a wedding anniversary feels like
>>283947058Thanks for doing this, anon.I guess this one's not so visible to English speakers because the Viz and Netflix translations aren't very different. It'd be interesting to know how the censorship changes the feel of the line in Japanese.
>>283944890There was an intro, maybe your stream cut it off for commercial time or something.
>>283945945Mostly, they've given more leeway to things that are plot-relevant. The best example of that is in the ice skating arc because you had two very similar lines but one was kept and one was censored.>Akane going "you're a man, aren't you" to Ranma when they were practicing skating: Kept (it leads into Ranma explaining why she's in girl form)>Akane going "you're a man, aren't you" to Ranma when he was sulking over the kiss: Cut (her other lines already convey the same sentiment and the gender thing isn't that relevant)I think the most plot-relevant thing they did cut was Kasumi telling Akane that Dr. Tofu wouldn't like Akane if she kept on being boyish.
>>283958023Yeah, I realized after. The show started 5 minutes earlier than usual, so I turned on the stream during the ad break after the OP instead of the ad break prior to the show and figured they were doing a cold opening like in the Happosai episode.
>>283956679>you have to make a selection of "best episodes". >most controversial [citation needed] on both
>>283952366>Ukyo kinda sucks in martial arts outside of her cooking tricks.How so?
>>283958008>It'd be interesting to know how the censorship changes the feel of the line in Japanese.Obviously the main thing it changes is removing the idea that certain kinds of behavior or attributes are associated with men, which isn't very 2025.
>>283947930Maybe I'm optimistic, but I think it's more likely to be toned down than completely cut, since it's kind of important to explaining how Ranma and Akane end up where they do after that.
>>283958292Oh alright, so the words that anon translated as "pathetic man" mean "pathetic person who happens to be a man" instead of "pathetically unmanly excuse for a man". In that case, Ranma's dialogue in English is actually more sexist and closer to the original.
>>283946464What's the thinking behind censoring this one?Does the original have the "life ruined" connotation (which doesn't really come across in the Viz translation)?And Ukyo is still wearing a boys' uniform and chest binders. How is the remake going to explain that, if it's no longer because of Ranma?
>>283958338>Oh alright, so the words that anon translated as "pathetic man" mean "pathetic person who happens to be a man" instead of "pathetically unmanly excuse for a man".Yeah. It's similar to how Ranma calls Ukyo "shitsukoi otoko" (persistent man) later in a line straight from the manga.
>>283947321Rare win for the west
>>283958408No, the Viz translation is actually pretty spot on meaning-wise. It's a difficult line to translate into decently sounding English, they did a very good job with it.And you can't say "embrace my femininity" as if it's a good thing women should want to do as a matter of course in 2025.
>>283946347Here's another reminder for you >>283949777Ranma loves touching Ukyo but is scared of Akane's gorilla body.>>283956511I know, but I think I have already used all my RanRyo pics.
>>283958564>No, the Viz translation is actually pretty spot on meaning-wise. It's a difficult line to translate into decently sounding English, they did a very good job with it.Good to hear.>And you can't say "embrace my femininity" as if it's a good thing women should want to do as a matter of course in 2025.Well, they explicitly set the show in the '80s.But I never got get the sense that Ukyo meant it as "all women should want to do it as a matter of course". It seemed pretty clear she was mad because SHE couldn't do it thanks to Ranma (at least that's how she saw it). But maybe that's something lost in translation.
>>283951534You will NOT receive romantic closure of any sort.
>>283958917He touched her there because he thought she was a boy.
>>283958928It's mostly a "having Ukyo saying Ranma destroyed her womanness implies that butch mannish lesbians aren't women and that's heckin problematic" thing I think
>>283946068How can Akane really conpete?
>>283959192She can't, and the only one who never really got the note was Rumiko.
>>283958408>>283958928I don't speak or think zoomer, but I asked chatgp and I guess this makes sense as the reason?
>>283959208Ranma is a hoes before bros kind of guy, it's a valid writing choice
>>283958408>>283959333Yeah I think the original could have vague connotations of "there is only one (right) way to be a woman and Ukyo isn't living up to it" whereas I guess the current more PC view would be "just existing as a woman is enough to be a woman, a woman doing anything is as legitimately feminine as anything else because it's a woman doing on" (and also applying this to trans women, which is its own can of worms)But I think censoring it or treated it like it needed to be censored kinda misses what was probably really intended, which is just "Ukyo is upset that she's not living her life as a woman in the way she would have personally preferred," like she didn't necessarily want to live as a boy for years
>>283959333Also some more theorizing after giving it both the original and the censored version.
>>283959333Kek yeah, same on deferring to chatgpt on zoomerspeak. Still, it's Ukyo. You'd think anyone with a single brain cell would understand that the girl who wears men's clothing and binds her chest and *literally lived as a man for 10 years* isn't going around preaching ultraconservative gender roles for all women. Do you really need censorship to get that across?And for real, how are they going to explain the crossdressing chest-binding in the remake, even if they cut out the Tsubasa arc which reveals the "attending all-boys' schools" bit?
>>283959447
>>283959425>the current more PC view would be "just existing as a woman is enough to be a woman, a woman doing anything is as legitimately feminine as anything else because it's a woman doing on"Actually, current wokefags would consider that statement TERF-coded (not kidding).
>>283959456>And for real, how are they going to explain the crossdressing chest-binding in the remake, even if they cut out the Tsubasa arc which reveals the "attending all-boys' schools" bit?They left in the line about her giving up on living as a woman.
>>283959447>>283959466>filenamesMy dark-skinned comrade. Yeah, all this boils down to "the line implies women need to live up to specific standards" - except that's not what Ukyo was saying, it's what the other little girls in primary school were implying by making fun of her for losing her fiance. If that was the issue they should have cut out the flashback scene with the classmates.
>>283959527Must have missed that. Then what's the point of cutting the other line saying exactly the same thing?
>>283959580I'll just refer to chatgtp again.
so I should probably watch the OG series first right?
>>283959776Yes.
>>283959733So it's mostly a wording thing relating to a specific no-no phrase then.
>>283959112And then he flirted with Ukyo with no problem, yet with Akane he struggles and has no desire to see her naked.
They should have made Ukyo into a lesbian who only desires girl Ranma.
>>283960157What if they do that with Tsubasa?
Is he right?(from the comments on Akane's page on suki-kira, auto-translated from Japanese)
Episode sucked ass. Writer knows only one joke
>>283960803You suck ass
>>283958261Didn't you watch the episode? She couldn't do much after they left the arena, and even less once she lost her spatula.Ranma is Ranma but even Akane would have put up a better fight than that.
>>283960803>obviously never read the manga>thinks Rumiko Takahashi is a one trick ponyYou're a fucking retard
>>283960061He was literally saying she's cute so she'll find someone else easily when she pushed him away.
>>283961100It still is more than what he has done with Akane at that point
>>283949084It boasts of being more faithful to the manga, but it's very much its own third continuity, between blatant censorship, entirely original sequences (the fight between Ranma, Ryoga and the Golden Pair is completely different to the manga version), and the reshuffling of storylines.>>283950219Most obvious candidate is the moxibustion arc vs. Happosai; they're obviously trying to cram the big character debut and move learning techniques in as fast as possible so they can more freely play around with what stories they introduce afterwards.
>>283939751What's with this damn chibi artstyle? Are we trying to market to kodomodachi now?
>>283945928Can't offend the LG TVs.
>>283948052They don't. Would be nice if they can dump the less important manga chapters so we can finally see the two Chinese kingdoms("I'm not a furry, but" and "mmm, dead bird water")
How cute can Ukyo really be if she passes for a boy so easily?
>>283961913Boys can be cute.
>>283961913Everybody at her all-boys' school thought Ukyo was just an extremely effeminate prettyboy twink and questioned their sexualities for years because of "him." Tsubasa was relieved to learn Ukyo was actually female but one boy killed himself before learning the truth, thinking that he was gay and his family would disown him, and his family sued the school. It shut down as a result of the settlement shortly before Ranma 1/2 began, which is what brought Ukyo to Furinkan in the first place. She was homeless for a few weeks before her debut episode
>>283945022The remake still in 1990? Nobody have phones or about social media?
>>283961788Of all the things to mention this about. Ranma 1/2 was the chibiest Rumic series by far. Even in this episode, they didn't have chibis nearly as much as the original manga did.
>>283949548SOFT>>283950088CUTE also DOUBLE CHECKED>>283950626>IIRC the director expressed that he wanted to adapt the manga to the end.Based. Fuck repeating old filler chapters the old anime already covered(on top of adding their own shit).
>>283950793In cat form is fine too. I want my abhuman catgirl daughters.
>>283951814>>283949281>>283952366Ukyo and Shampoo have access to very sharp knives, and very hot flames. Neither of them are beholden to him since he's not THEIR school's grand Master. So they could easily chop him up and dispose of him as "unwanted leftovers/expired food".
>>283955942For this season, after Happosai skips over the rooftop, they show one scene from the just ended episode, and one from the next.
Why isn't Ranma tagged as Harem slop on myanimelist? I regret wasting my time on this garbage
>>283952366Akane and Ukyo are roughly equal in terms of strength. Ukyo is way smater though.
>>283962216It barely qualifies as a harem in the modern sense. Ranma and Akane are only into each other, even though both have other suitors.Ranma is not the typical indecisive harem mc who can't choose which girl he likes best, it's been Akane from episode 1.
A passable episode. The introduction of the "good" fiance will prompt many Shampoofags to hide behind her in order to attack Akane. Their nonsense will be dealt with in due time. >>283960496No this is just another installment of anti-Akane hypocrisy which completely ignores that Akane's "abuse" amount to only responding in kind to Ranma bullshit. Ranma is constantly calling Akane ugly, clumsy, unfeminine etc. and humiliating her in public with his indecisive nonsense surrounding his gang of stalkers but the anti-Akane mentally ill (authentic) women haters are incapable of taking their hand out of their pants for moment and notice this incredible obvious fact.
>>283956511That looks far more like Ryoga than the "Ranma" in that pic looks like Ranma.>>283959333>>283959447>>283959466I want the USA to throw away the last 30 years of """"progress"""". The 90s truly was the last "real" decade. Everything since Bush Jr took control has been bad fanfiction.
>>283962291Every single girl falling for the mc is harem
>>283962521Well, that's everyone. The next girl to be introduced won't fall for him. And won't be for a while.
>>283962262Where does this come from? And what does "Heart" mean?
>>283962708Who fucking knows what heart means. These came from the wideban reprints of Ranma 1/2. Persumably Shogakukan editors in charge of the wideban reprints put them together. Rumiko definitely doesn't think in terms of stats. She says "I don't know" to almost any fighting question. They're official, but like whatever.
>>283962708Drive. Perseverance. Likelihood for a clutch power spike.
>>283962538Who is the next girl introduced?
>>283962916In terms of recurring characters, Hinako.
>>283946068I fucking despise Rumiko. Fuck you it should have been a harem end. Akane would have accepted it after Ranma impregnates Ukyo.
>>283951534Remember she is the only one who is committed to marrying Ranma even if he lost his martial arts prowess. Every girl even Akane just ditched him.
>>283962291Yeah, Ranma 1/2 is a "harem" anime in the original definition of the genre, before it became a lazy power fantasy subgenre; originally, a "harem anime" just meant "the male lead has multiple possible love interests".Back in the day, it was the *norm* for a harem anime to have a clearly favored girl who was "supposed" to win, whilst still letting fans of the other hotties dream to an extent - look at Love Hina, or El-Hazard. Tenchi Muyo was literally *revolutionary* in that it made it clear that Tenchi was gonna hook up with ALL of his potential waifus, and that was so controversial that the TV series spin-off, Tenchi Universe, instead rewrote the relationship web into a more familiar Tenchi/Ryoko/Ayeka triangle, with Ryoka strongly hinted to be the ultimate victor.>>283962916Ukyo's the last one. The only recurring characters yet to be added in Mappa 1/2 are the school principal, Ranma & Akane & Ukyo's new homeroom teacher, and Ranma's mom.
>>283962708Probably something like "Determination" or "Willpower".
>>283963344Akane would have accepted it after Ranma was impregnated by Kuno
>>283960496People psychoanalyzing Rumiko's gag characters will never not be funny.
>>283963450Tenchi's so based for that
I'm actually devastated that the whole gag sequence of Genma trying to run off while getting interrogated about his illegitimate child wasn't canongood episode overall though
>>283962708>what does "Heart" mean?SEX
>>283961911It would be nice if they cuold adapt every single mana chapter because they're all good.
>>283957226Not remove it completely.But I prefer the episodes where Ranma remains male.For some reason the female feels too disconnected from his character. Feels like his personality changes to be more annoying.
>>283941507Those biceps...
>>283940691>Chasers and tranny lovers continue to prove themselves to be faggotsAnd water is wet.
>>283957194>trainsa-anon... when do you think trains became widespread?
>>283946347>Husband>RanmaAre all Akanefags such TERFs?
>>283963484That's not how you spell Ryoga.
>>283962314>Akane's "abuse" amount to only responding in kind to Ranma bullshitI don't understand how people can not see this.Akane is never the instigator of trouble. She never acts against Ranma unless provoked first, except for one playful banter or another.Akane is the victim in all of this.
>>283963450>Yeah, Ranma 1/2 is a "harem" anime in the original definition of the genreClose, but Ranma is more of a parody/satire and subversion on the harem genre rather than just playing it completely straight. The subversive elements being:- The main girl Akane having just as much of her own harem.- The harem lead being able to transform into a girl and also has her own mini-male harem in that form.Rumiko does this a lot with her works, takes a standard genre or theme and adds a little twist to flip it on it’s head and play around with the tropes, for example UY is also something of a harem or at least the progenitor of the “Magical Girlfriend” genre, yet it’s lead Ataru is portrayed as a disgusting lech who most women want nothing to do with as opposed to the usual self-insert herbivore beta simp harem protagonist who’s only personality trait is “nice guy.” Then Inuyasha does it again with the “Reincarnated Romance” trope with the twist being that the previous incarnation gets revived and actually exists at the same time as her current reincarnation as her own separate person.
>>283965283tbf Akane only acts out when she's jealous or Ranma is being tsun to her.
>>283965154Kinda agree. Ranma in his female form literally comes off as more feisty and bratty while he is softer and rather cute in his normal form. Not sure why. Is it the voice change? The hormones?
>>283965336What fucking parody? There was no harem genre to subvert. Ranma was the first anime that had clear harem elements in it.
>>283965154>>283965498Look, if you are gay just say so.
>dat overly dramatic flashback scene soundtrackUgh... they really should've brought back Kenji Kawai to do the music. All the music are so bleh desu.....
>>283965154>>283965498Ask yourself. What is the one trait you need to survive as a man in modern society? It's "restraint". "Don't hit girls." "No shouting." "Don't chimp out." "No horny." And so on. Girlmode is just him with the shackles off.
I think this is the first episode the remake actually did better than the og.
this episode was really entertaining, and it's somehow even funnier that ucchan is clearly a girl the entire time. these idiots can be so braindead sometimes it's hilarious.
>>283965283>>283965347Quit shitposting during class hours, Ms. Tendo.
>>283965498Ranma is penisless and petite because of his curse. He obviously needs to compensate one way or another as a girl.
I find Ukyo hot while wearing the gakuran. That's definitely something for me to consider going forward.
>>283939751Why should I watch this remake, which they will surely change/censor, instead of just rewatching the entirety of Ranma on my hard drive? The animation doesn't look like anything special either.
I just realized Kasumi had been keeping the okonomiyaki wrapped in her skirt pocket the entire time she was expositing, prior to handing it to Ranma. Imagine the smell.
>>283966698You really shouldn't since it's just going to be 4 cours.
>>283966373Ukyo in a gakuran has always, always been hot and swoon-inducing.I was too young and ignorant to even know what a waifu was, but pic related was love at first sight.
>>283939751Okay, Im back.
>>283951534Yeah sure
>>283965498He's normally more angry in his female form because he gets turned into it against his will. He's sometimes more bratty because he turned into a girl as part of a vindictive scheme.
>>283967409This. Can't believe he gets dragged for how he feels.
So what happened to Ukyo's dad?
>>283966103Why that
>>283969071Obviously died of a broken heart at the betrayal
will they censor ranma's mom?
>>283969461Rumikooo
>>283969300I went back and watched the OG episode. The remake for once had better flow and comedic sequences, like during the Ukyo flashback or when Ranma pours boiling water on her in the shed. Both funnier in the remake.
>>283971392The remake had some weird scenes where Ukyo just stands there for a long time silently making an okonomiyaki letter, the original paced them better.
>>283965283Yeah, right. And all the times Akane starts shit, or drastically escalates things, that's her being a victim, too?When Akane responded to Ranma saying "I'm better built than you anyway" after SHE was the one who kept calling him a pervert and a freak by clobbering him with the table, she was the victim?When Ranma joked he and his dad were hungry enough to eat pig slop and Akane tried to stab him in the face with a carving knife, she was the victim?Ranma is absolutely a little shit sometimes, but let's not pretend that doesn't make Akane any less of a violent spoiled brat.
>>283971392This scene was funnier in the original.
>>283970643I'll seethe if they do, Ranma's terror is genuinely heartwarming
>>283950371They don’t like the Ranma remake, so they go to bitch at anything they see
>>283971461You mean when she walks over and makes her challenge letter in the classroom? I think that pause was actually pretty clever direction because you can feel her disgruntlement after Ranma tells her to act like a man.
>>283971706Both that and the heart one at the end. The remake has her spend much more time making it, which hurts the pacing of the scene a lot.
>>283971494>Akane thinks troons are freakswtf I love Akane now?!
>>283971761Can't say I agree. Many of the drawn out scenes in the remake seem out of place but this wasn't one of them.
>>283971494>When Ranma joked he and his dad were hungry enough to eat pig slop and Akane tried to stab him in the face with a carving knife, she was the victim?What the fuck are you talking about
>>283971783>>283971494>Akane thinks troons are freaksSurprised she’s not more popular on 4chan because of this, she’s literally /ourgirl/ and a based chudette.
>>283939751Sadly Ranma picks the most abusive and unintelligent female.
>>283971880Ranma is hardly a troon(only with the broadest, most liberal definition thereof), having a working pussy and all. So it's an easy choice between him or the violent, ptsd-triggering, "I don't need no man" radfem.
>>283971494Guys, I love Akane the most
>>283972555Terrible waste of trips to declare you're gay.
Guys, I love Akari the most and Shampoo second most
>>283971880You don't understand 4chan or "chuds"
>>283971828Breaking Point arc, I think.
>>283971808Agree with all this. It conveyed the "slow realization and blossoming hope" and visually associated "attraction to Ranma" with okonomiyaki (something Ukyo is already established to be passionate about)
>>283973704t. innocent animal
Guys wtf is the meaning of this? Is CRAPPA okay??
>>283974527Why is her right hand twice the size of her left? Poor thalidomide Ranchan.
>>283959187>butch mannish lesbians aren't womenCorrect
>>283961976Grok is this true
>>283974527Why does he have two pigtails. Where is his long wig?
>>283974606>herIt's a otoko, anon.
>>283974527>>283975808That's his disguise from the next episode you dumb newfags.
POV: You're Ryouga and you just got back home after months from a long trip and this girl comes onto you. What do you do?
>>283976043Come onto her in return, obviously. More likely, he just cums in his pants while desperately trying to stop his nosebleed.
>>283965160what's tranny about girl ranma?
>>283939751The episode was fun despite the limited animation, but I'm not feeling Ukyo's eyes redesign. >>283943533She's the very definition of best girl.
>>283961976Keked. Ah, I miss based 90s fanfiction.
>>283975862In the manga he has one braid under the wig. Akane pulls on it.
>>283975862Go read the manga again, boomer. He wears a long-haired wig, not whatever THAT is. Suffering from dementia isn't something tonbe ashamed of.
>It's a 'Ryouga's back in town so Ranma dresses up as a cute girl and tries to seduce him' episodeIf it were just one time that'd be one thing but it's nearly every time
>>283976644those are the best episodes
>>283957194There were trains in Japan 100 years before Ranma 1/2 began serialization.
>>283939751The censorship and only releasing 12 episodes a year really killed these threads, they barely get any replies and have to resort to necrobumping, what went wrong aside from the aforementioned things?
>>283978215S1 threads got slow near the end too. Beats me why. At least best girl seems to have picked things up a bit.
>>283976644I like the meme but in all seriousness, Ranma didn't seduce Ryoga nearly enough.>disguised in the girls' locker room (cut from the remake)>disguised as his fiancee (meant to be henpecking, the seduction was purely accidental)>fishing rod (mind controlled)>mirror twin (not actually Ranma)I think that's it.
>>283978441There’s also the time in the Shishi Hokoudan arc and thishttps://www.youtube.com/shorts/XJiOTPnIZTwIf you put them all together that’s way more times than Ranma playfully flirts with any woman
>>283978441ranma pretending to be yoiko also counts
>>283979765Yoiko wasn't trying to seduce her oniichan, anon.
>>283979789[doubt]
>>283947058Nu anime is so cucked
>>283979007That clip looks like anime-onlyManga has a similar one with Ranma pretending to be Akane when Ryoga's in the infirmary, hope they keep it next episode
>>283979007Ranma flirts with Kuno more
>>283974527>Ranma gettin raped next week.Dear god ranma didn't even change her hair in a wig.
>>283980626Nope it's also in the manga>>283981540In most cases, Ranma flirts with both Kuno and Ryoga to get something from them or because they are temporarily more powerful than him due to a new technique/weapon. The difference is that only with Ryoga are there scenarios where he does it unprompted and for no reason (pic related) or he creates an elaborate persona in a convoluted scheme which actually makes zero sense as he knows Ryoga doesn't like the "pig tailed girl". Why does Ranma need to put on make-up and dress up to keep Ryoga away from Akane when he can just beat the shit out of him/actually tell Akane that he is P-Chan (which is actually does multiple times but never seriously)? He even tries to do the fiancee trick AGAIN in the Soap even though at that point Ryoga knows Ranma is dressing up again (The Cupid sisters). Ryoga makes him jealous ---> Ranma responds by dressing up as a womanThis kind of behavior speaks to a deeper pathology than simple deceit
>>283981957tbf, Ryouga is so stupid that if Ranma did show up in a different dress and hair style, he'd be totally fooled.And yet Ranma never changes his hairstyle or buys a different colored wig...
>>283981957>Nope it's also in the mangaOops, my bad. Which volume/arc?
>>283982142Japanese Nanniichuan arc/Volume 8
>>283981957Interdasting psychoanalysis. I wonder if the Rankunofag is around, I'd like to hear their take. I think it goes back to something an anon said in a thread a while ago - Ranma just deep down likes Ryoga for some reason, probably because he's the martial arts bro he always wanted. That's why he keeps trying to be best buddies despite being betrayed by him about 200 times.
>>283983620>I wonder if the Rankunofag is around, I'd like to hear their takeI think I might be the Rankunofag you mean. Or at least one of themHere's some takes I came up with just now I guess: I think >>283981957 is right, though I'm not super into RanRyo personally and I'm not sure why, since I agree you can make probably a stronger case for something going on between them than you could for Ranma and Kuno. It's like I like their dynamic but maybe not as a pairingI guess if I wanted to compare the difference in dynamic between Ranma/Ryoga and Ranma/Kuno, it's that maybe generally Ranma might feel more threatened by Ryoga in terms of his relationship with Akane, while he feels more threatened by Kuno in terms of his perception of himself as a man. Like even though Ryoga's a loser Ranma seems, at least in the early series, to believe Ryoga has a chance with Akane or that Akane likes him better, etc., and so gets pretty jealous when they're interacting positively + spending time together. But Kuno being into the Pigtailed Girl seems to sort of make Ranma aware of like, the sexual risk to his female body and also cause him like existential fears about his status as a man. So like Ranma's erotic nightmares where he's with Kuno as a woman, fearing being raped/even impregnated by Kuno, considering kissing him (on multiple occasions) for the purpose of getting his male body back but not being willing to go all the way with it, etc. Though IDK I think "lol I used tape, it doesn't count" is debatable if people count the Rankane kiss in the same storyI think obviously you could just take this on the intended surface level of "Ranma is a straight man and doesn't want to be involved with Kuno or any man, he also understandably fears being trapped as a woman forever" but I think it's definitely possible to read more into it too. I tend to believe that since Ranma's biology completely changes between forms, stuff like how his hormones/emotions affect him might tootbc
>>283984115>But Kuno being into the Pigtailed Girl seems to sort of make Ranma aware of like, the sexual risk to his female body and also cause him like existential fears about his status as a man. So like Ranma's erotic nightmares where he's with Kuno as a woman, fearing being raped/even impregnated by Kuno, considering kissing him (on multiple occasions) for the purpose of getting his male body back but not being willing to go all the way with it, etc. Though IDK I think "lol I used tape, it doesn't count" is debatable if people count the Rankane kiss in the same storyAmazing that we have two styles of r*pe found in Kuno and Ryouga.
>>283978441The belly pero calligraphy where he pretended to be a girl playing volleyball in order to catch him off-guard.
>>283984115It doesn't help that Kuno technically mogs him as a male in several aspects. Looks, wealth, height, general societal respect and power/pull/clout(prior to getting shown up on multiple occasions). It threatens him on a subconscious level.
>>283984115>I think I might be the Rankunofag you mean. Or at least one of themBased. Really hyped that you're still around for actual character analysis that's not thinly disguised memeing about muh annoyances. I did assume all the Rankuno posts were one person, but that's probably just because the Shampoo-vs-Akane and antifujo-rant shitposting trained me to think of most shipper posts as raving loons so the exceptions stood out. Reading on...
>>283983620>>283984115It's also a thing that sexuality is affected by genetics, so like a straight man wouldn't necessarily become a lesbian if they were magically transformed into a woman, but might instead become a straight woman. The biggest hurdle might be more the initial psychological blocks to being involved with the "wrong" gender, that could potentially be overcome by biology/hormones if they get stuck as the opposite gender for long enough.What I'm obviously getting at here is that I think it's at least possible/realistic that in female form, Ranma might have a slight attraction to Kuno that she either isn't aware of, or that she recognizes and which scares the hell out of her. Due to 16 years of growing up as a man and being attracted to women, I think Ranma's initial psychological disgust at the concept of being involved with a man and Kuno especially is enough for her to fight off any possible biological attraction that might be there while in female form-- and she spends much less time as a woman too so there's not much opportunity to dwell on it. But I think it's also kinda wormed her way into her subconscious, as in her dream of happily starting a family with Kuno, that she's aware could get stuck as a girl and it might even change her mind about things if she did. In the event that Ranma was stuck as a girl, it'd be pretty interesting to see how the biology/emotions of the female form might overcome her upbringing as a man.one more post coming up>>283984327I like this, this is a cool thought. What Ranma can ignore or be pissed off by as a man might even unwillingly attract him as a woman>>283984346A lot of those posts are mine but sometimes I see other anons posting screenshots/panels of Rankuno moments and that's always nice to see.
>>283984115>>283984327These posts make it really interesting that male Ranma treats Kuno as an unthreatening amusement. He's default flippant and smiley with him, even with Kuno constantly challenging him. Ranma takes losers like Ryoga, Mousse and even Gosunkugi more seriously as threats (socially and/or martially) than wealthy, confident, team captain, fangirl-having (at his sister's school), principal's son Kuno.
>>283984115>though I'm not super into RanRyo personally and I'm not sure why,Could be Ryoga's just very not your type? Sometimes people enjoy a pairing while finding one or even both characters personally unappealing, but it's less common.
>>283984180And all this in a romcom. Rumiko is a genius, unironically.
>>283983620>>283984396Anyway, to return to what >>283981957 says about jealousy, my last point is about something from the old anime. Obviously manga purists might not count this since it's a filler episode, but since I like Kuno and he gets more screentime in the old anime than he does across the manga or new anime, this moment's definitely relevant to me. Also I like the old animeThere's an episode where Kuno believes he's fated to be with Nabiki and tries to forget Akane/Pigtailed Girl and focus on her as his girlfriend. Nabiki's kinda weirded out but just goes along with it because she's not taking it seriously and knows it won't last. Ranma seems put off to initially learn about this, and the episode ends with Kuno's chances with Nabiki being ruined (he didn't actually have a chance but he at least believed he did) because Ranma runs up to him at the end of the episode in Pigtailed Girl form and starts flirting with him, and Kuno declares his love for all three girls as in pic relatedIt might just be kind of a rushed way to end the episode and bring the status quo back to normal, but the best explanation for these events seems to be that there's some subtext of Ranma being jealous/upset to realize he'll be receiving less attention from Kuno from now on if he stays with Nabiki, and so does what he can to make sure Kuno's attention stays on him. Might just tie into Ranma's ego but again, I tend to see it as the female form making liking Kuno a little more than she'd be willing to admit too>>283984623That might be it. I do like Ryoga as a character and he does have a cute design, but it's true I'm not really attracted to him by comparison
>>283984753you think Kuno would have ever tried hitting on Kasumi?
>>283984870It's possible. He does seem to be more into girls capable of beating him up though, and so maybe Kasumi would seem too pure or something by comparison.
>>283984115>But Kuno being into the Pigtailed Girl seems to sort of make Ranma aware of like, the sexual risk to his female body and also cause him like existential fears about his status as a man. So like Ranma's erotic nightmares where he's with Kuno as a woman, fearing being raped/even impregnated by Kuno, considering kissing him (on multiple occasions) for the purpose of getting his male body back but not being willing to go all the way with it, etc. Though IDK I think "lol I used tape, it doesn't count" is debatable if people count the Rankane kiss in the same storyI think it's the idea of being mentally feminized into a man's girlfriend/wife that feels sexually threatening for Ranma. Rape threat by itself seems like no big deal for him. Ryoga aggressively pinned down a struggling female Ranma and went far enough that it messed up her clothes, but Ranma shrugs it off pretty quickly and merrily hits on Ryoga as a girl in a later arc. Happosai or one-shot rapist creeps don't bother Ranma much, either. Kuno on the other hand doesn't just want to fuck Ranma, he wants to court and date and marry her, even in Ranma's nightmares.
>>283985157That's true, yeah. I was going to mention at one point that maybe my comparison isn't perfect because there have definitely been times Ryoga got pretty aggressive with her too, but decided not to include it because I didn't want to risk making yet another overly long post.It being more of an existential/loss of identity fear is probably closer then
>>283985157>Ryoga aggressively pinned down a struggling female Ranma and went far enough that it messed up her clothesThat's getting cut from the remake, isn't it?
>>283945945>>283946068It should be the other way around. The black part should be her pupilas, and the light the irises. Why did the remak invert it?
>>283985228See, Ranma knows that Ryoga will stop him before it gets to the REALLY dangerous stuff: love confessions, holding hands, kissing...and liking it. But Kuno? Not that I'm an expert on Japanese 90s gender roles, but I'm guessing it's similar to how in the west a lot of guys would snicker at the idea of men in prison raping each other, but the thought of a man falling head over heels in love with them and pursuing them for a relationship, now that makes their skin crawl.
>>283985157>>283985228Thought of a Kuno example for the "Ranma shrugs off wham-bam-thank-you ma'am rape threats" pile: In the wish granting sword arc, Ranma's not fazed by seeing the "Ranma roofied and wolf-raped by Kuno" vision of Akane's.
>>283985615I can see that, I do remember seeing a comment from a guy, maybe on /a/, about how scenes like Ranma's dreams made him think for the first time about how he wouldn't be prepared to be hit on by another guy.
>>283985157>Rape threat by itself seems like no big deal for him. Ryoga aggressively pinned down a struggling female Ranma and went far enough that it messed up her clothes, but Ranma shrugs it off pretty quickly and merrily hits on Ryoga as a girl in a later arc. Happosai or one-shot rapist creeps don't bother Ranma much, either.He shrugs them off as long as they don't go far enough in ways he can't defend against. He was freaked out by Kodachi after she incapacitated him and tried forcing a kiss, and wanted to murder Sanzenin after he caught him unaware and managed to kiss him.It's less "rape threats are no big deal" and more "rape threats are no big deal as long as he knows he can just punch the guy out before it gets dangerous"
>>283986270I can see where you're coming from, but...with Sanzenin it's revealed that what bothered him most was having his first kiss stolen, a romantic violation and not just a sexual one. With Ryoga, Ranma himself says "That was close!" right after so it wasn't an easy escape.
>>283986464>That was closeBecause she almost came from the sensation.
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>>283987963Ranma playing chicken, secretly hoping a guy claims and dominates her.
Can the delulu fujos leave the thread now? Thanks
No.
>>283988781I only want Ranma to get dominated by her male rivals while in female form
>>283962262Wow Kuno is a lot weaker than I thought. Didn't they say that he was stronger than Akane but let her win on purpose?
>>283962262I like that female Ranma is just objectively weaker than male. That's hot.
>>283988932Yes. These stats are pretty bullshit and don't come from Rumiko herself.
>>283988819Ranma isn't female though. He is a dude. Have you even read the manga?
>>283988932That chart is a scam. IIRC Ranma even was scared of him on that watermelon island. He was in his girl form during it but still.
>>283989095Still, they aren't all that inaccurate compared to what we see in the manga. More basic stats like power and speed are relatively accurate. Heart and intelligence are harder to quantify, since most of the characters are capable of being very clever and also incredibly dumb if the plot demands it.
>>283962262You notice how this basically says Akane is a retard compared to Ranma? Ranma is literally the smartest person there along with Ukyo.
>>283989126Ranma may not like it but her body is biologically female when transformed
Male Ranma is the worst character in the series. Female Ranma is the best
>>283989204It does a lot to explain why Ranma puts up with Akane hitting him and stuff, he realizes that she can't really help herself because she is just dumb
>>283989173>>283989204They're combat stats, so that probably only refers to intelligence in coming up with battle strategies, techniques and such. Explains why Happosai has that maxed out despite being a retard, and we know that Ranma sucks academically.
>>283989261He also has a bigger heart than her. Just. Literally mogged. Ranma is apparently a saint looking after a downey.
>>283989292Ranma doesn't suck academically. The joke of that chapter was that he got mediocre grades. This big buildup to him being a C student.
>>283989237He is forced to live with a curse he literally despises until the very end. Give me one manga panel that shows he genuinely enjoys being female without gaining any benefits from it.
>Canon babbleSorry, too busy making Claude write me novel length literotica about Ranma submitting to the cock, and accepting her place as a woman.
>>283989252If this series was about a permanent female curse instead of swapping with water, the plot would be basically the same and all that would be lost are lazy gags where's he's splashed unexpectedly.
>trannys conquering the threadRanma doesn't deserve this
>>283989505yes she does
>>283978215All the posters being shit really killed these threads, and the fact that the anime doesn't lend itself to discussion. Every time I lurk here it's just bitching and moaning about the censorship, obsessively nitpicking every change, even the innocuous ones, glazing the old anime, and shitting on the main girl. There's no point coming here if you actually enjoy the remake AND the original manga, unless you're in the mood for doomscrolling.
>>283989741>and shitting on the main girlThis has been a thing for literally 30+ years.
>>283989760I guess. Rumiko "fans" are weird.
Well, Ranma girls kinda are dull. I don't dislike them but I don't find them interesting. Except for maybe Shampoo. She got at least skills and is a little bit funny sometimes. Her parking on characters heads never fails to make me laugh.
>>283990525That one arc where Shampoo hates Ranma because of some brooch? That was hot. The way she acted in her introduction? Hot. Sadly she got reduced to wanting Ranma's dick most of the time.
>>283962262You notice how Shampoo mogs Akane in every category aside from intelligence? Also Ranma x Ukyo is the intellectual choice.
>>283965645>liking a character that's the same gender as you is gayok anon, if you say so
I enjoy Akane's character, I think she has good comedic chemistry with Ranma. I also wouldn't care if Rumiko declared that Ranma died a virgin at 90 after refusing the advances of every woman on the continent, though.
>>283967409>because he gets turned into it against his willOk you got a point there.
>>283990776Shampoo has always been a much better martial artist than Akane, everyone knows this.It honestly feels like a missed opportunity that Rumiko never gave Akane the opportunity to become stronger or have any significant flights aside from a few gimmicky ones or as support of Ranma, she spends the entire series just as mediocre as she was in chapter 1.
>>283991060Because that would imply Akane needs to improve. Rumiko's self-insert doesn't need to change anything about herself. She's clearly amazing, and everyone else is the problem.
>>283991032>>283991060>>283991109Maybe that other anon was right after all. /A/kane mostly bitches and moans about the competition while taking little to no steps to improve herself. By the end of the series, she makes edible curry. And that's about it.
>>283991060Rumiko just wasn't interested in the female characters as martial artists.Like, there was never a Shampoo vs Ukyo fight despite both of them being very popular with the readers, and neither of them ever challenged Akane to a duel with Ranma as a prize.When the girls competed with each other it was shit like baking cookies or whatever.
>>283991127>>283991109>>283991060This schizo nonsense is why the threads are so shitAkane is given nothing to do in the fighting department because she's the heroine of a shonen manga. Maybe if this was made today she would have a bigger role, an actual rival etc, but not in the fucking 80s
>>283966939> was too young and ignorant to even know what a waifu wasFunny, it was similar to me, but with Akane.Years later, when the term "waifu" started being used on /a/, I had that "aaah so that's what Akane was for me back then!" moment.
>>283989741>All the posters being shit really killed these threadsIf these threads are shit to you, you obviously haven't been to the rest of /a/ these days. Where do you normally post?
>>283989741>There's no point coming here if you actually enjoy the remake AND the original manga, unless you're in the mood for doomscrolling.I enjoy the remake, the original manga, and these threads.
>>283991307Oh no, this person who looks like an idealized teenage version of Rumiko DEFINITELY isn't Rumiko's self-insert. She definitely didn't make the protagonist love her, and have all the boys fawn over her. That's just craaaaaaaazy. An author doing wish fulfillment? Nahhh.
>>283991257She wasn't interested in anyone as martial artist. This series is a parody of battle shit and harem shit. You're meant to laugh at the absurdity of it all, not obsess over power levels and waifus.
>>283991579Well that's just wrong. It's a comedy, but it's not a parody of any of those things. Especially in the later parts of the manga where it's clear Rumiko wants to try her hand at a genuine battle shonen, which led to Inuyasha.
>>283991537So Ranma is also her self-insert by your logic.
>>283991653No? She made the love interest her self-insert. Just like she tried with Shinobu, but then got cucked by Lum.
>>283991632Inuyasha's battles are nothing like Ranma, and you are absolutely meant to laugh first and foremost at all the mundane things turned into martial arts techniques and other insane bullshit. That's also why all the characters in Ranma are so flat, gimmicky, and often straight up mean/unlikeable. It's not just Akane. She's actually kind of chill compared to other tsundere I grew up on. The hate she gets is unreasonable.
>>283991693The main girl loves himHas all the girls AND guys fawning over himWins all his fights
>>283991985>She's actually kind of chill compared to other tsundere I grew up on.Many of them came after her, but she was one of the first widely-known, "physically violent" types. The rest just amplified it.
>>283989252calm down Kuno
>>283991985>That's also why all the characters in Ranma are so flat, gimmicky, and often straight up mean/unlikeable.People keep saying this, but the whole cast is extremely funny and likeable. Especially compared to the edgelord wokebosses in westoid current year fiction.
>>283992419>the cast full of funny jerks is funnyUnforeseen development.
>Ukio>best girlThe fuck is wrong with you people? Do the words "best" and "girl" mean nothing to you? First you call that ugly rapist with two y chromosomes aka Hinata Hyuga best girl now this. 1) Ukio is not a Tendo sister. I would understand if you shipped Ranma with Nabiki or even Kasumi, but neither of them? Do you not want nice things for Genma and Soun? 2) Ranma thought Ukio was a boy. 3) Ukio is not cute. Akane and Shampoo are cute, Kasumi and Kodachi are hot, and Ukio is just butch. Besides, how could you ship Ukio with anyone but Kuno?>B-but Kuno and Ukio have no chemistryNeither did Vegeta and Bulma.
I want girl Ranma to step on me.
>>283992604Is this a copypasta
>>283992808Why don't you look up the /a/ archive to find out?
>>283992604>Ukio is not cute.Criminally shit taste >>283946068
Do Ranma and Genma love each other
>>283992912>>>283946068>>Ukio is cute.>Criminally shit taste >>283992604Fixed.
>>283992642Why are so many /a/nons so gay for Ranma?His personality in female form is horrible, and I can never disconnect that she's a man.
>>283993253How is his female personality horrible?
>>283993253>female form>horribleStop baiting and take your meds anon.
>>283993114>file nameThis guy knows what's up
>>283992604>Neither did Vegeta and BulmaThat really taught them a lesson, anon.
>>283990776>Also Ranma x Ukyo is the intellectual choiceIf you wish for Ranma to commit suicide, yeah
Nobody who was part of the fan scene for this manga ever thought like that though.
>>283993253These two dipshits were my first ever gay anime ship, I will never apologize for it.
>>283993681You should, the genderbending makes it cringe.
>>283966373>I find Ukyo hot while wearing the gakuran.She might regret that soon, because Ryoga damn near destroys her while she's wearing it.
>>283993737No more than the species-shifting does.
>>283992922Genma is a shit father and he deserves all the beating from Ranma but I would say yes, they love each other. I just wish Ranma would stop being good-hearted and whoop his dad's shitty ass even more.
>>283991985You think Ranma is a bad and unlikeable character?
>>283993895He's a rude jerk all the time. Are you serious?
>>283993775That's different. Ranma characters are not degenerate enough to bang the piglet or the goose, or decide that the cat is fine too, but Ranma's female form is canonically plenty fuckable. So it's just a hetero ship with extra steps or bisexual at best. Too wishy-washy for my taste.
>>283993940Compared to Ataru, he's a saint and well-mannered.
>>283993895No, a lovable jerk.
>>283993964Heterosexuality as a symptom of circumstance? Top kek, I'm still shipping them in spite of it.
>>283993940>Are you serious?Yes, I'm serious. Just because he acts like a jerk and makes mistakes sometimes doesn't mean he is a bad character overall. He's actually cute overall and has a big heart.
>>283994025Idgi. You hq them as homogay in spite of ample evidence to the contrary?
>>283993681Man, the artstyle really went down the drain after the first season or two.I particularly dislike the OVA style the most.1st season like picrel was the best. On anything after that, the remake is better without needing to try much.
283992604bait
>>283993966Ataru is close to just being a sociopath. He's Happosai's son
>>283994087Ranma's curse is treated no differently by Ryoga than it would be a zit on his chin, so I don't see it as a factor when defining their relationship. Ranma is so not in love with Akane that he can bring himself to say it to her face without being bribed, and Akari only loves Ryoga for his curse, so their "established" hetships are weak and predicated on deceits. The honesty is Ranma never breaking his word to keep Ryoga's curse a secret, which he never breaks, and Ryoga pursuing Ranma across China like a jilted lover while being willing to die in a quest to restore Ranma's manhood later. As crackships go, RanRyo has as solid a ground as Reinhard/Kircheis does, and it persists throughout the series.
>>283994099The "first season" is actually an entirely separate series.
>>283994286They're just rivals/friends. Both characters are explicitly straight.>Ranma is so not in love with Akane that he can bring himself to say it to her face without being bribedHe's tsun, much like Akane.>and Akari only loves Ryoga for his curseI thought he's into that. He almost raped disguised femRanma because Ranma told him that "she" loves him and accepts him in spite of the curse. He's also in love with Akane, remember? But given the above he's just a horny virgin starved of female touch. No way in hell he would want to bang Ranma's male form.So yeah, unless you completely ignore canon characterization Ryoga/Ranma is a straight ship with extra steps, that could only happen in some alternate reality where Ranma gets stuck for good in his female form.
>>283994286>and Akari only loves Ryoga for his curseShe literally doesn't even know about his curse until the end of her debut arc, anon.
>>283994819And became obsessed with him after.
>>283994838She was already determined to get him from the moment he beat Katsunishiki.
>>283994746>Both characters are explicitly straight.Doubtful.>He's tsun, much like Akane.He's gay and closeted.>He's also in love with Akane, remember? He thinks he is, but he falls in and out of it so often he just comes off as being desperately alone/incel. He never makes a truly determined move on Akane (even if we handwave being sabotaged when he tries), so "love" is iffy.>>283994901To be a coach, not a boyfriend. He's "useful" to her. If he decided to ditch her retarded fighting pig farm, she would mourn losing a tool, not a person.
>>283994746>He almost raped disguised femRanmawtf where does this come from?
Adult Akane heightmogging Ranko even harder
>>283994746>Both characters are explicitly straight.Kind of but also kind of not. The Ranma 1/2 universe and cast are still firmly in the 20th century Asian "normal vs abnormal sexual behavior" framework, not the "heterosexual/homosexual/bisexual/asexual as separate but equal personal identity labels" framework.Neither Ryoga nor Ranma would label themselves as "straight" because no one would think of labeling themselves that way. Neither of them would consciously question if they're attracted to guys because why would they, they're normal males, end of story.
Are we seriously discussing how Ryoga or Ranma might be gay/bi/trannys now?
>>283996225It's not gay if Ranma's in girl form
>>283996225No, but S1 had a pretty good discussion about how Ryoga has repressed vagina envy towards Ranma
>>283995045>To be a coach, not a boyfriend.Anon what
>>283995555Next episode if they don't censor it (big if there)
I'm surprised redditma 1/2 (the remake) doesn't make Shampoo flat. Sexualized 16 year olds are so problematic.
>>283996225>>283996261Ryoga literally would have accepted girlhood over being an easily caught and eaten piglet. Fuck it, I'll even go so far as to say the most hardcore, "never without a dick in his ass or mouth" homosexual Liberace of faggots would sooner turn into a girl than lose their humanity as a bottom of the food chain prey animal. Only vorephiles and porcine-loving furries would say otherwise.
>>283989741I enjoy the remake and the original manga and I nitpick for fun. Sorry, I can't help myself.
>>283992604Absolutely everything in this post is garbage and shit taste. Kill yourself and do your family a favor for once.
>>283996341A-are we sure he wanted to force himself on him, I mean he could've just gone for a hug??
>>283991307She contributed against Saffron and did a lot when fighting the Orochi.
>>283994099this is boring as fuck, it was a generic ova style compared to the competition like saint seiya, dragon ball z, mikami, hokuto no ken, yawarano wonder why nobody give a fuck about ranma back then
>>283996225Ranma is only bi for Akane's futacock
>>283996407Cringe.
>>283996896Ranma pictures Ryoga like this next chapter so at least he thinks Ryoga was going for more than a hug
>>283943533>>283943704>Best girl is basically a BroReally makes you think
>>283989329It's probably his huge ego showing but that doesn't look like he is absolutely suffering from his curse what a weirdo
>>283998938He's way too happy about his growing tits.
>>283943533Ukyo was my 2D awakening and gay/bi awakening, so it’s hard to convert primal imprinting into words. But I’ll try.She’s gorgeous. Catlike and reflective eyes (the animes seriously don’t do justice to Rumiko’s concentric eye designs), classical Japanese hairstyle, gakuran whose masculinity sets off her femininity even better and makes her look unbelievably hot.She’s incredibly competent. Bootstrapped herself from okonomiyaki cart theft victim to self-made businesswoman who treks all over Japan to seek her fortune. Can nearly match male Ranma and Ryoga in one on one fights until deus ex machina wardrobe malfunctions. She’s all-round charismatic with a multifaceted personality. Supremely confident without being arrogant, laid-back and friendly, clever and machinating, silly or snarky. Doesn’t steal scenes like Shampoo or Ryoga, but always adds to the scenes she’s in. Probably more substantial a personality than any character outside Ranma or Akane. Not unimportant, the narrative doesn’t give her special treatment. A lot of hot confident characters beloved by normalfags really fucking turn me off, and eventually I figured out it’s not because I dislike hot confident characters on principle, it’s because with most hot confident characters you can see the author’s invisible hand wanking them. But luckily it’s not the case with Rumiko and Ukyo.
>>283992604>Ukyo not cute>talking shit about best girl Hinata>current Bejita x Bulma not having chemistryYour face needs to have a hot date with shotgun.
>>283999257All that and Rumiko still dislikes Ukyo as a character.
>>283999714Rumiko was a bitter hag even when she was young
>>283999714Rumiko is a daft cow who hates everyone except her self inserts and fantasy husbandos.
>>283999745>>283999860Such copium. Is it hard having to accept Ukyo being just as fucked up a soul as everyone else in the series? Inb4 Kasumi, she's clearly insane which is why Soun's failed to marry her off.
>>283992604>Do you not want nice things for Genma and Soun?Of course not. One is a fucking lazy moron who is just trying to profit from the sweat of another's brow, and the other is Genma Saotome, who only isn't the worst parent in Takahashi's multiverse because that couple who keep harvesting their son's bone marrow to try and make a philosopher's stone, Ryunosuke Fujinami's dad, and the serial womanizer, thief and con-artist who runs a literal murder-for-cash business all exist.
>>284000106Based and Happosaipilled.>that couple who keep harvesting their son's bone marrow to try and make a philosopher's stoneWhich Takahashi manga is that?
>>284000106Why do people always say that Ryunosuke's dad is worse than Genma?
>>283999952I find it hard to believe the Rumiko haters genuinely like any of her characters.t. Ukyofag
>>284000533I don't hate Rumiko at all, but it's a factual observation that every time she opens her mouth about her characters, she comes accross as a very frustrated and bitter lady.
>>283999714>and Rumiko still dislikes Ukyo as a character.Source?
>>284000330It's a one-chapter story from her "Rumic World" series called "The Golden Gods of Poverty"; you can read it translated into English in Rumic World volume 2, alongside the 5-chapter long mini-series "Wasted Minds/Dust Spurt", the psychic spy thriller spoof that Takahashi almost wrote instead of Urusei Yatsura.>>284000424While Genma was absolutely an asshole to Ranma, his biggest mistakes with Ranma - the Nekoken and Jusenkyo - were legitimately mistakes that resulted from a failed but sincere attempt to help Ranma become a great martial artist, and it's shown that outside of being a blustering, selfish idiot, Genma does care for Ranma in his own bumbling way.Ryunosuke's dad, on the other hand, is selfish, spiteful and narcissistic on a level way beyond Genma. He has tried to brainwash Ryunosuke into believing she's a boy for her entire life, constantly beats her up for refusing to submit to him, is shown to have tricked her out of food like chocolate, cake and matsutake mushrooms for her entire life, rendered it impossible for her to ever know what her mother looked like, and he constantly meddles in her efforts to obtain feminine clothing, including making promises to her that he always intends to break.>>284000689Probably Takahashi's statement that the reason Ranma/Ukyo wouldn't work is because Ranma supposedly wants a helpless damsel in distress type and Ukyo is too confident and independent for his tastes.You should see all the Akanefans who've been hyping her up as this strong, independent woman whom Ranma loves *because* she will stand up to him and take no shit from him doing their best to double-talk their way out of admitting that their impression is completely wrong and that Ranma really loves Akane because she's the most baby-like of his fiancées.
>>284000663I don't observe that at all. From all the quotes posted here she seems to love creating her stories and her characters and thinks about them all the time. Bitter would be if she insulted her fans for liking XYZ or disliking ABC like so many westoid "creators".
>>283991334Hope you're still happy together, anon. Isn't it wonderful how the right waifu just instantly brings you back to a sweeter, purer time in your heart? When did you fall for Akane, out of curiosity? From her very first chapter?
>>283943704Perfectly analyzed and eloquently said, anon. Best bro (wife) (bro) (wife) (goddess). Here's hoping we reincarnate as Ucchan's waitresses in the next life.
>>284000794>Ranma really loves Akane because she's the most baby-like of his fiancées.Sounds like he likes her because she's the most feminine and "normal" of his fiancees. Even though she can't cook, etc. People call Akane a bitch for beating Ranma up for comedic purposes but both Ukyo and Shampoo initially tried to kill him, and only stopped when it turned out he's romanceable. Then they started coming on to him aggresively. Not every guy likes to be chased by crazy women. Especially if they are masculine like Ukyo.
>>284000794>Probably Takahashi's statement that the reason Ranma/Ukyo wouldn't work is because Ranma supposedly wants a helpless damsel in distress type and Ukyo is too confident and independent for his tastes.Did she really say that? I never, ever got that impression from Ranma's actions in the manga at all. I'm not even a Ranma x Akane fan, but even I remember how the first time he smiled while looking at her was when she beat up all her would-be suitors at school. Akanefags may be obnoxious, but they have every right to be mad at Rumiko for saying that. She's such a weirdo.
>>284000931Idk, I get the impression that while she loves writing, she's one of those authors that wants her characters to be perceived a certain way, and when the audience doesn't, she throws a tantrum.
>>283945022It's a silent tragedy. Almost every profit Akane wore in every episode of the original was amazing. She hasn't worn anything even noteworthy in the remake.
>>283994726Wasn't it the first 2? I don't remember
>>284001911They're talking about this. I never understood how it got twisted into some kind of anti-Ukyo statement.>This is from the manga extra regarding Ukyo:>"Q: Ukyo seems like she’d make the perfect bride.Takahashi: I’m assuming you are talking about her devotion to Ranma?Q: Remember that time when Ranma got really weak? Ukyo told him she’d be willing to spend the rest of her life taking care of him. I thought that was sweet.Takahashi: That’s the sort of thing that ruins men. And if those two got married, Ranma would definitely end up walking out on her.Q: Even though she’s so devoted to him…Takahashi: Well, yes. Her devotion is undeniable. But think about it. She always takes the initiative. She’s not really the type that would be okay just being by someone’s side, supporting them.Q: All the Ranma girls are kind of that way.Takahashi: Hence why it’s always such a battlefield.Q: Because at the end of the day, Ranma’s a pretty cool guy.Takahashi: On the surface, anyway. He can usually accomplish what he sets his mind to, which is a lot more than I could ever say about Ataru in Urusei Yatsura. But of course that was one goal of mine with Ranma. I wanted to write a manga where the male lead was properly cool. Well behaved girls can be quite cute too, you know. So long as they can actually behave themselves..."
>>283948052I doubt they will get that far. Which is a shame if they had just picked up where the anime had left off they could've either adapted the rest of if they had just picked up where the OVA's left off and ignored all the skipped arcs they could've finished it by now.
>>284002071It does sound anti-Ukyo. She's basically calling her too masculine and intense for a cool guy like Ranma. It also shits on Akane a little bit for being tomboyish/not honest with her feelings. She's basically shitting on non-trad women here, but she obviously enjoys writing them too. I also don't think Ranma wants a total helpless damsel, or a trad girl like Kasumi. Akane is just the right amount of spicy for him.
>>284002748I just don't see how saying she's not a good wife for *Ranma* means she's a worse person. I mean, Rumiko likes Ryoga, but if you asked her how Ranma and Ryoga would work out as a married couple, I doubt her answer would be positive.
>>283960023Which implies the censorship isn't purely aimed at westerners, if Chatgpt is right about the reasons. The nuance of the subtle differences between the "manly" lines is lost on non-Japanese speakers and the English translators even seemed to un-censor the censored line, as >>283947321 said.
>>284002023She wore the clock sweater.
>>284002748I do think people are a bit quick to take that quote and apply it universally when I think Rumiko was describing specifically the moxibustion scenario where Ukyo was fine with an invalid while Akane seemed to understand that Ranma needed to be cured. Not to say that Ukyo is Ranma's type, he definitely prefers to be leaned on more, I'm just saying it isn't as blatantly unfair to Ukyo as it may seem at a glance. I do think Ranma likes to dote on Akane a good bit (hence his "I'll take care of it" during the dojo destroyer and how mad he gets when she puts herself at risk) but he still appreciates and respects her willingness to put herself out there.
>>284003028She's not calling Ukyo a bad person, but she's calling her undesirable/unable to keep a man which doesn't sound pro-Ukyo to me.
>>284002748>Ukyo>intense
>>284003310The whole Q&A reads like it's about Ranma and the moxibustion marriage fantasy, though. Takahashi even asks the "questioner" to clarify if she means devotion to Ranma.
Such retardation in this thread. Ranma likes Akane precisely because she calls him out on his bullshit and forces him to improve. You could even easily explain it as mommy issues, after spending his entire childhood living like an animal with a scumbag parent he craves to reprimanded by a mother surrogate who sets him straight. This in contrast with Ukyo, which as the interview about the moxibustion arc highlights would just accept him no matter what even as a useless husband, instead of pushing him to get better.
>>283989126and yet he almsot gets r*ped the most. What do you want from us?
>>284003876Ranma craves to be impregnated and become a mother herself
>>284003876>Ranma>improvesAll his worst stories and moments are from the late series
>>284003876The early arcs just had Akane constantly underestimating Ranma and thinking he was weaker than he is. It wasn't about "improving." She just had disrespect towards him that COULD be reframed as "concern." Remember the first time Ranma fought Ryoga, and she kept trying to butt in to tell him the big guy with muscles was... strong? No shit?
>>284003310Then she must like Ukyo because she wrote her the perfect wife (XY).
>>283998938>Ranma: I mean, if I could share some of this, I would!>Akane: [annoyance escalating]Akane. She. wants you. to touch. her boobs.
>>284001726The only masculine things about Ukyo is her drive to be self reliant (which is a great quality to have for anyone at any age and of either gender), and the way she dresses sometimes. Everything else is top shelf femenine.
>>284003898Why does Ranma canonically attract rapists like catnip?
>>283949548Ukyo! Your Ukyo's are out!
>>284004167literally living as a man for 10 years is kinda masculine
>>284004167What's feminine about her?
>>283943704i have a question who was the best waifus of 90Asuka,Usagi,Belldandy,Ryoko
>>284004175have you seen that smug face on that jerk? Put hat on a female and she's asking for it.
>>284003922... by Akane
>>284004167>I will take care of you, all you will have to do is watch the kids>calling Ranma weakShe wanted to be Ranma's husband, not his wife. That's not very feminine.
>>284004437It's just based for a wife
Why doesn't the Tendo dojo have any students, anyway? I don't think this is ever addressed in the manga, how do they earn money?
>>284004346Asuka Langley Soryu she is ultimate tsundere prototype. Fiery, confident, traumatized, red hair + plugsuit = eternal S-tier waifu also she fall for a otaku.
>>284000974>Hope you're still happy together, anon.For sure! And this remake really rekindled it after all these years.Ranma (specially the first 2 seasons) are very nostalgic for me, so it always gives me a warm fuzzy feeling inside every time I see stuff about it. There is something about it that makes it comfy.It's the setting, the dojo, the clothes... I don't know.>>284000974>When did you fall for Akane, out of curiosityI never read the manga actually, so it was right when I first watched the OG anime's 1st season, back in 1999, 2000 or so.Man, did I scour the internet for Ranma content back then.I remember my young innocent self reading a Ranma x Akane fanfic without even knowing what a fanfic was back then.
>>283965246>that perky nipplenngh
>>284003821>The whole Q&ANot really.She also said that all the main girls always take the initiative so "it’s always such a battlefield." Sounds like a general statement to me, at least about Ranma's preferences.
>>284004222What would she know about living like a man? Especially at her age? At best she was just LARPing one>>284004250She's got a 10/10 body, she likes cute feminine things (hence her now), she's got a ton of femenine mannerisms and likes Ranma romantically because he's strong and cool. That's very feminine.>>284004437This will never not get misinterpreted as long as people like you have a axe to grind against her. Ukyo didn't say that's how her relationship with him would look ideally, or even preferentially, she knew how strong Ranma was and how proud he was of that, and she loved him for it. All that chapter showed was that she'd take Ranma no matter what because she's THAT devoted. If you want to use that as some kind of definitive test of Akane's superiority as Ranma's partner while ignoring all evidence to the contrary then go right ahead, but that's not the indictment of Ranma and Ukyo's relationship or her character you seem to assume.
>>284004990>as people like you have a axe to grind against her.I like Ukyo.>Ukyo didn't say that's how her relationship with him would look ideally, or even preferentiallyThen why does she look so happy?>If you want to use that as some kind of definitive test of Akane's superiority as Ranma's partner while ignoring all evidence to the contraryAkane is the main girl. That's all the evidence you need if you care the slightest bit about the opinion of Ranma's creator.
>>284004437He was literally too weak to hurt an infant at that moment, and as far as they knew, there wasn't a single hope for a cure. Happosai had the only counter-moxibustion chart in existence, and the best Ranma's supposed sensei Genma could come up with was "grovel for mercy". Tactless? Yes, but still, not WRONG.>>284004990>Ukyo didn't say that's how her relationship with him would look ideally, or even preferentially, she knew how strong Ranma was and how proud he was of that, and she loved him for it. All that chapter showed was that she'd take Ranma no matter what because she's THAT devoted.Exactly. Ukyo's entire point was "the Tendos only want you to carry on their precious dojo; I want you because you're Ranma".
>>284005118>I like Ukyo.Clearly not enough to avoid misinterpreting her character.>Then why does she look so happy?Because she's married to Ranma. What part of "would take him no matter what" do you not understand?>Akane is the main girl.Which has exactly ZERO bearing on this discussion.>That's all the evidence you need if you care the slightest bit about the opinion of Ranma's creator.I only do whenever she doesn't say stupid shit that contradict what she wrote in the manga. But that's hardly relevant here because that's not the opinion of Ranma's creator, it's just you choosin to build a strawman around them.
>>284005347*around her opinion.
>>284004990Ukyo IS best girl. Part of that is she has feminine beauty and sophistication, but the touch of masculinity is the perfect spice.
>>283996868Go the fuck back.
>>284005452I wish I could. Go back in time before 2016 immigrant tryhards like you showed up, that is.
>>284005344>Tactless? Yes, but still, not WRONG.Who said it's wrong? It just makes her too masculine for Ranma's taste. He's not the househusband type. Ukyo was also clearly way into this, smiling brightly, and the line about Ranma taking care of the children was there on purpose. If Ukyo is such a devoted, perfect wife she can work AND watch Ranma's kids.
>>284005527I thought Akanefags liked imagining Ranma being Akane's devoted househusband/wife
>>284005578>AkanefagsRumiko? Doubt.
>>284005512Yeah sure, the pro-murder tiktok-parroting side is the oldfag side.
>>284005527>If Ukyo is such a devoted, perfect wife she can work AND watch Ranma's kids.Who are you fucking trying to fool? She'd do that GLADLY, you retard. She just couldn't in that specific scenario.>>284005421I didn't say she had zero masculine qualities. I just said that she's not really a wannabe male with little or none feminine traits like the people who want to discredit her claim. Her personality and mannerisms are clearly majoritarily female still
>>284005614I doubt Rumiko would like it but I see a not-insignificant number of Akanefags in the fandom who like to imagine Future Akane being the man of the household and Future Ranma just being kind of a neutered housespouse
>>284005696>discredit her claimTo what her what? Anon, stop engaging with normalfags who think girl/ship wars are objective political debates.
>>284005696>She just couldn't in that specific scenario.She couldn't do that in her own fantasy? How so?
>>284005760Why did your brain immediately went to politics? I meant discredit her as a potential gf/wife for Ranma.>>284005763>how?Because it was a fantasy based on Ranma's predicament at the time, you dullard. What makes you think she wouldn't be just as happy if not more married to Ranma as he is normally? Did you ever see her ask him to marry her and be her househusband before or after this story?
>>284006085Hell, in the Gambling King story, she agrees to let Ranma use her restaurant as collateral to face off against the titular foe because if he loses, he promises they will travel Japan together as co-chefs. So she would much rather have Ranma as an equal partner in her life than just somebody to look after the kid.
>>284006085>Because it was a fantasy based on Ranma's predicament at the time, you dullard.How so? If Ranma was too weak to hurt an infant then he wasn't fit to watch the children.
>>283943704Best girl is actually fem ranma
>>284006393Forgot the SS
>>284006153Too bad that Ranma doesn't see her as a potential partner, and he barely sees her as a girl, and even as a childhood friend he valued her less than pancakes.
>>284006153That's these people's issue, deep down. That Ranma and Ukyo as a couple would be a far more equal partnership than any of their other options, and it blows their brains and bowels for some reason.>>284006173Now you're just saying whatever. Just shut the fuck up already, it's embarrasing to read.
>>284006558You are embarrassing. Proving my earlier point that waifufags are retarded.
Ranma and Kuno
The series just would be better if Ranma got with a boy.
Not even shitposting, but why the fuck to do many trans people (mostly millennials) model themselves after Akane or abusive women in general? Isn't that kind of fucked up?
>>284004570Ranma is still in training. There's also Akane if you count her.
>>284006598Concession accepted.
>>284006833You really need to have the last word? Even though you had nothing to say to begin with. Pathetic.
>>284006755Neither pays money for their apprenticeship though, and even if they did, it would have to be more than both consume in terms of food, basic services like water and power etc, and it would have to come out of their own pockets instead of their parents with neither having a job.
>>284006709Can't say I've seen it myself, but guessing it's because abusive people like shielding themselves, so they ID as trans/black/minors/etc. (whether it's true or not) on their socials and that way they can accuse their victims of transphobia etc. if they object to the abuse.Don't know about the Akane part though, or why abusive people would even be into this manga.
>>284006520>and even as a childhood friend he valued her less than pancakes.Genma please don't make me get out the broomsticks again
>>283998938ANY. CONTEST. IS. WORTH. WINNING.That's just how his brain works.
>>284005578I like them both and I imagine him being a tsundere househusband who pretends not to be
284006910Just accept you were full of shit and move on, retard.
>>284006520Too bad non sequiturs don't win arguments :^)
>>284007101Even he has his limits.
>>284006833>>284007186Go back and yourself
>>284006645>>284006686I keep saying, people like this >>284006910 >>284007186should fag out over Kuno or Ryoga for a change
>>284000106Lest we forget, Principal Kuno is another abusive parent too.
>>284007266Kill yourself. Nobody likes those faggots.
>>284007266I do pair Ranma with Ryoga, though?
>>284007201To what arguments? Ranma doesn't want Ukyo so they are not compatible as partners. Too bad, so sad. End of story.
>>284007341Your argument wasn't about whether Ranma and Ukyo were compatible as partners so your response was an irrelevant diversion. Too bad, so sad. End of story.
>Some faggot is unironically spooked and bootyblasted by thisI will never understand it.
>>284007445What was it about then?
Ok, we all agree Akane has the worst body, but who has the best?
>>284007514Ranma.
>>284007514Ranma obviously
>>284007514Ranma duh
>>284007472What Ukyo's ideal marriage would look like.
Has anyone here ever eaten an okonomiyaki? I kinda want to taste one, but I guess it's a glorious nippon only food.
>>284004570My current headcanon is Genma and Soun robbed Happosai of all his stolen treasure and are living off the proceeds
>>284004408Cuuute
>>284007514Unironically? Kodachi. Too bad she's too crazy to capitilize on it.
>>284003976Ryoga was the first time we saw a character perform feats of superhuman strength. Both Akane and the audience are intended to not be aware that Ranma was at that level.
>>284007566I live in the US and I've had it a few times. There's a Japanese store/restaurant in my area that makes a few varietiesIt's pretty good
>>283998098Yes censorship is
>>284007631Literally the first chapter had Akane casually lifting a table and bonking Ranma on the head with it.
>>284007566I have. It tastes like any other Japanese batter based food if you have ever tried those, so it's mostly down to toppings. The veggies+meat one I had was incredibly meh, while the one with seafood was alright but nothing to write home about.
>>283996469>Only vorephiles and porcine-loving furries would say otherwise.Well now I feel called out
>>284007547No, I never said anything about Ukyo's "ideal" marriage. Just that she's a butch who's more than happy to wear the pants in the relationship, which makes her masculine, hence unattractive to Ranma. The creator said a similar thing.
>>284007566I have. There won't be a plethora of choice when it comes to fixings and toppings, but you can get it at Japanese places in the US.
>>284007658That's not superhuman. It is a table. Like, by Mouse, we are used to it and throwing the giant concrete roller is seen as whatever, but we hadn't seen anything crazy over the top before Ryoga. I genuinely thought "Ranma's in trouble" when the umbrella reveal happened, like Akane did as well. The "wait, Ranma just picked it up no problem" is intended to surprise the audience.
>>284007566Had it in the US, and in Japan. In Japan, we had to make it at our table (thankfully had someone who knew how). It was alright. Mayo and sauce did all the heavy lifting.
>>284007708>Just that she's a butch who's more than happy to wear the pants in the relationship, which makes her masculine, hence unattractive to Ranma. And you were proven wrong about it.
>>284007877Oh fucking bullshit. Lifting a table, and getting it smacked over your head is not "human." Yes, it's a gag, but that's just a failure of writing if you need to arbitrarily make physical feats "not count" for the sake of gay drama. Ranma was actively doing things far beyond a normal human since chapter one, and plenty more after before Ryoga arrived.
>>284007937No. I got a bunch of moronic replies from blind retard(s) hell bent on arguing with the word of god.
>>284004618>Ranma (specially the first 2 seasons) are very nostalgic for me, so it always gives me a warm fuzzy feeling inside every time I see stuff about it. There is something about it that makes it comfy.>It's the setting, the dojo, the clothes... I don't know.That's lovely, anon. So happy for you! It's fairly similar for me. Even when it feels like all innocence is gone and everything is terrifying, reading the Ranma 1/2 manga somehow opens up a warm cozy room where fairytale happiness is still tangible.>I remember my young innocent self reading a Ranma x Akane fanfic without even knowing what a fanfic was back then.Cute. I remember some hilariously bad lemonfics...
>>284007955You can call it a failure if writing if you want, but superhuman strength and superhuman endurance are treated as separate things by the series. I will say that a table is significantly less heavy than Ryoga's umbrella. It was less than 15 chapters in and while the cast shown off insane feats of agility and dexterity and leaping ability, the idea was that this was a new level of strength. You can call it arbitrary though, it definitely doesn't make sense with the world where Akane herself can punch down a wall.
>>284007797Never seen it at any Japanese place I've gone to. It's usually sushi, sashimi, noodle soups, tempura bentos.
>>284008140Try googling it in your city. It isn't ubiquitous, but it isn't completely unheard of in mine. Admittedly, I live in a big city.
>>283939751yay Ukyo!
>>283991579He's right. The big China battle arcs had Ranma, Ryoga and Mousse doing the fighting, not Akane, Shampoo and Ukyo.
>>284008313You do get some based exhibition fights with Ranma vs Mariko and Ranma vs Kodachi, though.
>>284007708>Ukyo>butchYouBlind
>peaceful commenting>threads are slow>multiple arguments about everything you can think of>thread hits bump limit in two days
>>284007084Hell, the only proof we have that Ranma supposedly picked okonomiyaki over Ukyo when Genma asked him the decision is from the lips of GENMA. I wouldn't trust Genma to tell me the time.
>>284007292Oh, there's plenty of abusive parents throughout the Takahashi multiverse. Even Inuyasha's dad was kind of a dick, or at least a dumbass, when you consider the Tessaiga/Tensaiga ploy. But as bad as Principal Kuno is, it doesn't quite compare to regularly sticking needles into his own son's bones to suck out his marrow because he's convinced he can make a magical potion to turn crap into gold with it.>>284007658Yeah, and Akane both struggled to budge it with two hands, and didn't know that Ranma in his weaker girl's form could lift it one-handed just as easily as Ryoga.
>>284008140Yeah, I've never seen it either. Japanese places here usually focus on either sushi or ramen.
>>284008008>Word of godYou mean your strawman version of them.
>>283949548Kyaa~~Mappa brought their A-game for best girl and then stuck this cherry on top of the sundae. Do all Ukyofags have a cleavage fetish? Is this an obscure psychological statistic? Did Mappa know this?
>>283940691Don't let rightoids gaslight you into thinking there is a 'choice'.
>>284000106>the serial womanizer, thief and con-artist who runs a literal murder-for-cash business all exist.I'm a Ranmaonly, where do I find this one?
Ukyo a cute. Ukyo a cute.
>>283949548Stop getting all your takes from pol
>>284008653In case this isn't a poorly done meme, what the fuck are you on about
>>284008531Why do you need it to begin with?Any retard with eyes can tell that the crossdressing chick is masculine, and the protagonist doesn't want to marry her because he used to think she's a boy (gee, I wonder why?)
Ucchan mogs Akane in every single plane is not even funny
>>284009002Ranma is frightened of masculinity because it secretly turns on his girl half (which is attracted to men)
