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Going to storytime the manga in conjunction with the new anime season so anons can compare and contrast, or experience the story in multiple different ways simultaneously.

Today: chapter 74-77
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>>284318793
I love/hate all-star covers. You get to see a snapshot of what was popular(or trying to be) at the time, but also reminds that there's a shit-ton of stuff that faded into the void because of lack of scanning culture.
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All of these should have tankobon releases though.
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Weekly Shonen Sunday #19, 1989

RANMA 1/2 THE ANIME TV SERIES STARTS ON TV FUJI THIS WEEK! MAKE SURE TO WATCH, KIDS!
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>>284319902
Cute Ranko. Looks like she's about ten years old here. Uoooooh
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>>284320020
>celebrating the anime premiere with topless Ranma in full color
Nice
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>>284320155
>the dew of love
You mean it's HIS CUM??!?!?
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>>284320020
Why do boys turn into sluts the moment they have a girl's body? And then they have the audacity to accuse girls of being promiscuous from time to time.
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>>284319902
>KIDS!
I wonder what the ratio of kids to adults watching Ranma in the '90s was.
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To be continued
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>>284320901
The original series aired on Saturdays at 7:30pm while Nettohen aired Fridays at 5:30pm, it was very much shown as a child-friendly family show families would watch together while eating etc.
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>>284318878
The Ranma 1/2 themed hanafuda cards were a nice touch.
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>>284319127
Like that they had him hanging upside down here.
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>>284320949
This is some clumsy localization, damn.
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>>284321623
Options were limited. How did the original word structure work?
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>>284319230
The animal motifs were a nice touch. Kuno getting his "blue thunder" fake nickname referenced.

>>284319836
I also liked the additional signs.
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>>284322111
The prize is introduced as a 中国旅行ご招待, so literal "China travel invitation", but instead of being an "invitation to travel China", it's an "invitation for Lu Xing (旅行) from China (to your home)".

That doesn't parse very well into English, but man, they could've come up with something that read less clumsy than this.
The official subtitles for the original show went with "Mr. 'Travel' Ling, China", which is both closer to the original AND more clever in that "Ling" is an actual Chinese name. What did Netflix have?
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>>284322111
Not that anon and I don't have the exact text with me now so this is going off memory kinda, but it's like the guy's name has "旅行" in it which is written/pronounced like the word for travel, and also he's from China. So you can kinda understand how in the original Japanese, reading/talking about how they're going to meet this traveler from China could get misread/misheard as traveling TO China

I personally don't think the original localization's "see China" solution is bad at all though, because they had to make the misunderstanding work in a way that feels instantly understandable from an English reader/speaker's perspective, because the rapid-fire comedy format of Ranma doesn't really allow for any additional explanation. (Though I guess the manga could've maybe had a translation/cultural footnote at the end of the volume explaining the original joke.) Like yeah it's changing a character's name to make the joke work, but since the character literally only appears here for the sake of the punchline and never again it's not exactly a huge departure or something that changes the plot. The '89 anime dub did this too, because for some reason the dialogue from that episode was weirdly taken like word-for-word from the manga when usually the two translations are pretty different since they were handled by different people.

also I see another anon already explained it in the time it took me to write, but oh well

>>284322689
From the clip I checked out, the English dub of the new series tried to do it a little more literally and have a Chinese travel/Chinese traveler misunderstanding but it felt kind of clumsy and underexplained in English honestly compared to what the older translations did.

I think if you do the joke literally it only really works in Japanese because it depends heavily on already knowing the kanji for travel
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>>284322922
>I think if you do the joke literally it only really works in Japanese because it depends heavily on already knowing the kanji for travel

It's not really about the kanji, it's just the fact that the guy's name is literally Ryokou/travel.

As I said, the anime subtitles and their "Mr. 'Travel' Ling" localization works a lot better, and is much closer to the original joke too.
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>>284323146
Yeah that too; I guess I'm just focused on the kanji particularly because the new anime seemed to really focus in on the signs when adapting that scene where the punchline gets revealed. Like it was trying to imply people misread the signs maybe? And I couldn't remember, when making my post, if his name literally was Ryokou in Japanese or something else written the same but pronounced differently, but apparently it is Ryokou.

But I still think the original joke depends on knowing that "ryokou" means travel in Japanese and so it just doesn't hit as hard translated literally. The new dub is just kinda like "the Chinese traveler, Ryokou" and it feels weird because his name is actually part of the joke but just goes completely unexplained possibly even in the subs.

I do think what the old anime subs did works as a translation too though; they could've done that as well. I think it's just a joke that they have to take some translation liberties with in other languages, except maybe Chinese, unless they overexplain it.
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>>284323355
>the new anime seemed to really focus in on the signs when adapting that scene where the punchline gets revealed. Like it was trying to imply people misread the signs maybe?
Yeah, it's focusing on those extra kanji that got added to the sign
中国旅行ご招待 VS 中国人旅行氏ご招待
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>>284323355
>The new dub is just kinda like "the Chinese traveler, Ryokou" and it feels weird because his name is actually part of the joke but just goes completely unexplained possibly even in the subs.
Jesus, that's even worse than Viz. Sasuga Shitflix.
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>>284318793
All currently published series

>>284319346
Obi wo Gyutto ne! by Katsutoshi Kawai, not scanlated

>>284319902
Ranma

>>284320426
Heavy by Motoka Murakami, not scanlated
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>>284320949
His robe says tabi(旅); traveller, btw.
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>>284323917
>Heavy by Motoka Murakami
>Gai, a karate expert in the New York slum, is trained to be a boxing champion by a cancer-strucken doctor and a transvestite suffering from AIDS.

Damn, that's... well, heavy.
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>>284324035
It's the first character in his name 旅行
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>>284324081
Half the pages would be trigger warnings
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The Heavy movie got a fansub earlier this year actually:
https://collectr.blogspot.com/2025/11/heavy.html

The movie is supposedly a very truncated adaptation of the first 4 volumes of the manga.
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So basically, the joke is "Winner gets a China visit(or)."
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>>284319902
I've been rereading the manga and watching the anime alongside it in the original release order. For those interested, here's how these early chapters line up with the early anime.
As you can see, it was catching up pretty fast
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>>284320747
We lost the Nabiki gag. Otherwise, these chapters for adapted very closely. Not storyboard closely though, a lot of different angles were used.
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>>284319623
Funniest fucking gag in the entire arc.
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>>284324081
>The nostalgia for when weebs loved good shit like this
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>>284325366
That's always the problem with trying to animate an in-progress series(especially with less than 100 chapters). You want to strike while it's still somewhat popular, but then you have to commit animation staff AND voice actors, so you can't exactly take short breaks (you could try to do like Netflix is doing now and partition it to the same time every year, but back then, you also risk the VAs getting committed to another role in another series, and unable to return, which in turn pisses off the fans)
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>>284328076
It was the standard at the time, and usually the result was that the show ended long before the manga did, which is still the case nowadays anyway.
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>>284328708
Yeah, I remember Sket Dance making a joke about Gintama doing that, and ironically also wound up doing that themselves.
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>>284325366
Back when they'd adapt arcs over multiple episodes as the standard.
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>>284329959
Early Ranma was a lot less episodic.so it made more sense then
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>>284330993
It should've stayed like that.
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>>284330993
Even later stuff had arcs.
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>>284325366
So is each listed anime episode adapting the manga episodes listed before it in the chart?
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>>284334903
I think it's chronological order. The anime launched around the Romeo/Juliet arc, which also means they started/got greenlit when the manga only had about 50 chapters of actual content published. At best, they might have asked Rumiko about upcoming content/sneak peeked, hence the not!Shampoo OC above.
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>>284335331
Thanks. I wonder what point it was when the anime overtook the manga.
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>>284335639
You can see the first filler already by episode 14(Tofu's mother, Ranma having the best childbirting hips, etc.), so they probably got the sense of it around episode 6 onwards(assuming 2 month lead time between animation and airing), or roughly halfway through Season 1. Then they got the good/bad news from Shougakukan that there would be more seasons, and that's when the troubles REALLY started.
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>>284334903
No, the ones listed in the parenthesis. They're ordered by publication/air date
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And some people say they aren't bros.
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>>284336811
It's most apparent with the OPs and EDs from that set of episode, the first OP includes every major character from the manga up to that point (including Sanzenin and Azusa, no reason to assume they were one-offs at the time), but NOT Happosai. He does appear in the 2nd ED, though, which debuts with episode 14.

So clearly the first OP was produced before he debuted, while the second ED was produced after.
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>>284324273
>ANN
Ranma is probably extremely objectionable to them as well
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>>284338586
Some people are fools.
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>>284336811
>Tofu's mother, Ranma having the best childbirting hips, etc.
That was a really funny episode, it's a shame Rumiko never did anything like that with Tofu.
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Wonder how much Rumiko herself knew about Romeo and Juliet.
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>>284341202
I wonder if the channel got angry letters for portraying her repeatedly trying/threatening to commit suicide.
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>>284342257
Nah, this was 1989, the world was a lot less pussified then.
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>>284320949
the pun is the worst. And the remake didn't help either.
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>>284343235
It works better in nip. The old anime subs also had a clever localization >>284322689
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>>284342546
Didn't Rumiko talk about getting angry letters about the Urusei Yatsura anime nudity?
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>>284343926
Nudity and suicide jokes are very different things.
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>>284338586
How many pages before the betrayal
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>>284318825
Didn't Viz localize Kuno's poetryfagging to Shakespeare earlier?
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>>284345704
The poetry was an anime invention
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>>284345736
Kuno does speak using old japanese and a flowery speech though, if you translate what he says normally, you basically kills his character. Using Shakespearean for him is a good idea imo.
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>>284346221
The Viz manga translation did give him an archaic speech style but it's maybe not as noticeable as in the anime translation because his dialogue (like every character's) is necessarily shorter by default. Might be kind of exaggerated for the sake of differentiating the characters more in translation.

And yeah the old anime dub did have him occasionally use Shakespeare quotes but mostly in the early seasons and OVAs/movies which got translated first. I think they eventually slowed down on it because it'd be too much effort just for the sake of a few lines of dialogue per episode, but still kept the archaic speech throughout the series. Weird fun fact: there's an obscure Ranma anime song special thing where Kuno actually makes a Shakespeare reference in the original Japanese-- the English translators might not have known about this at the time but it adds a weird bit of synchronicity or something to that translation choice: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQAXPpSLFhA&t=148s

The newest anime dub had every character use Shakespeare quotes in the newest episode to fit the theme, but it kinda makes less sense there because the manga made it pretty clear that none of the characters really know what the fuck. But I guess it was probably fun to write on the script side.
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>>284323917
More of this stuff needs to be scanlated, damn. Both Obi wo gytto ne and Heavy are pretty big and popular series in Japan.
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>>284318793
Annotated with series names.
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>>284320155
Kuno looks hot in that last panel.
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>>284348229
For the record, this was the issue Kyoryu Carnival started in, explaining its prominence on the cover. It was the third of three new series starting three issues in a row (the other two being Mad Stone starting in issue 17 and Tuck-In starting in issue 18.
Kyoryu Carnival was the only one that actually lasted, the two others got axed in issue 33.
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>>284323917
So did Obi wo gyutto ne start this issue then? Since it's not in >>284348229
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>>284349060
No, but it took a short break from the magazine. The cover promotes its return to serialization.
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>>284342257
Doubt it, suicide jokes were commonplace at the time.
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>>284320565
>Remake erased Kuno getting Ranma drunk but kept Gosunkugi choloroforming Akane.
What did they mean by this? Chloroforming someone is worse than getting them drunk.
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>>284350626
Something in Japan changed and there's like a zero tolerance on underage drinking on TV now. Notice how every modern anime has them getting drunk off non-alcoholic stuff or on chocolate or something?
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>>284350626
Chloroform isn't readily accessible, and underage drinking is much more imitable, especially in Japan, where they used to have vending machines that dispensed cans of beer and sake.
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>>284351188
It's weird though that even characters accidentally or unwillingly imbibing alcohol are getting censored, what's the rationale for that?.
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>>284351666
"Boy, being drunk looks fun!"? How that doesn't apply to of age drinking is a mystery.
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>>284351188
Chloroform is also much less potent than fiction tends to portray it. You can't drug someone the way Gosunkugi does here.
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Ranma is such a bro for helping Ryoga with Akari, Also I like how the 一応 is in huge letters, like "I'm TECHNICALLY friends with Ryouga"
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>>284352251
People talk about static sitcom characters, but the evaporation of Ranma's jealousy towards Ryoga is a pretty big evolution.

He goes from absolute delusional seething...
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>>284352994
...to casual bro-pity at Ryoga's unrequited crush on Akane.
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>>284348229
Nice, thanks.
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>>284352251
>一応 is in huge letters, like "I'm TECHNICALLY friends with Ryouga"
Did Ranma finally get smarter about Ryoga?
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>>284318850
Who's the guy who isn't Godzilla?
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>>284318850
I like that Akane's popularity with her classmates is a recurring chapter opener, makes her feel less sidelined by the plots.
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>>284318878
>Akane being an unprovoked jerk
I like it, just like I like the reverse
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>>284348229
God's work, anon, bless you.
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>>284350626
Can't damage Chad's reputation, but the creepy omega being creepy is perfectly in-character.
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>>284356603
>Can't damage Chad's reputation
Pre-series Kuno had every jock in the school accepting his challenge to fight for Akane's hand. He's fallen from high up.
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>>284357522
True, but at the end of the day, he's still a solid 5'10" ikemen with a bottomless pocket. That's really all you need in life to get women, regardless of pop culture trying to tell you otherwise.
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>>284319346
>cover advertises a promo article about the Ranma anime
Fuck, would be cool to actually have these issues available.
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>>284343926
What do you mean? Was there a lot of nudity in the anime or something?
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>>284359132
There was more nudity in the anime than in the manga
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>>284359212
Good times.
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>>284358236
People as stupid as Kuno would probably still struggle.
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>>284360625
I mean, he pulled hot cheerleader Mariko, so he would quite literally have to turn her off with his Akane/Ranko shrine(assuming she can't/won't overwrite them with her own charm) to fail.
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>>284360733
> would quite literally have to turn her off with his Akane/Ranko shrine
He probably would, desu
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Ranma and Ryoga are the only relationship that actually progresses throughout the entire series.
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>>284354771
Gojira.
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>>284352251
Keeps her away from Akane.
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>>284352251
He does that so Ryoga finally leaves Akane the fuck alone.
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>>284358236
Well, I guess the censors are normalfags so you might have a point there.
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>>284359132
I was thinking of this quote

>Oh and here's her complaining about fanbooks making the UY girls out to be turkish bath girls by describing their proportions:
>"... It's like a combination of the anime fans and the fans of the original manga, but I think it's okay. This isn't a very good thing, but it's not so bad that it's an insult, but it's something that characters are inevitably subjected to, and they are treated as if they were sensuous or something. So sometimes I would receive letters saying, "This is absolutely unacceptable," then on the other hand, I would receive a magazine containing the sensual images of the characters, and when I looked at it, the characters from Urusei Yatsura were like Turkish harem girls, and their various characteristics were described (laughs). But when I read them, I found that they had a good grasp of the characters. I think that they must have their own assumptions, and as long as they don't treat the characters in a too dirty way, I can forgive them for their devotions. People who started from the anime cannot separate the anime from the original work, so they say that the original work does not treat the characters in this way, but the anime ... I have nothing to do with that part of the story, so it is as if the story is progressing in a world I do not know. ... I would prefer to read the letters of praise (for the manga) (laughs)."
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>>284363002
She's talking about sexy promo images rather than the anime itself, then.
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>>284320719
do angloids actually use "ersatz" as a word? never heard this before
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>>284318917
>the capeshit introduction parody
God, I miss "localizers" like Gerard Jones
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>>284363278
Yeah, it was a common word. You probably never heard it because social media culture killed literacy and now big words bad (except when it's five-syllable academic jargon appropriated for use as calls to violence).
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>>284363325
the thing is it's a german word, that's why I was confused
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>>284363353
English is a mutt language. We suck up words from everywhere, even Japanese.
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>>284363278
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>>284363353
I'm not even sure it was common in the late 80s(at least, outside of the US), but then I was only a kid back then. I believe it had fallen into disuse among the general adult population by about 2000.
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>>284359123
You can just check Mercari every once in a while and buy it for 12 bucks.
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>>284363169
I think she was complaining about fan magazines. That's how I interpreted it. Presumably, old doujinshi (not pornographic ones, which Rumiko didn't care for). Also, you accidentally quoted a bit of me there in that first line.
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>>284363547
Yeah, been considering it. Lots of cool editorial shit in the issues from this year.
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>>284363632
"Fanbooks" are official books with promo art and exclusive information like stats etc.
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>>284363632
>Also, you accidentally quoted a bit of me there in that first line.
I thought I should play it safe and include it for context. Really appreciate you, interview-kun. Since you're here, have you got the link to that one?
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>>284363416
I wouldn't expect it in spoken conversation, but I still regularly saw it in writing even a few years ago. I admit I have oldfag reading tastes, though.
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>>284363899
I used the term fanbooks and incorrectly, apparently. The original context was her discussing fan reactions. I assume when she says characteristics, she is saying bust-waist-hips and similar... She saying (as far as I can tell) that due to the anime she got both people saying the anime was showing too much nudity but also seeing fan magazines clearly into it in a dirtier way than she would ultimately prefer.

>>284363963
https://www.furinkan.com/takahashi/takahashi63.html

Here you go.
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>>284364017
I think the only place I've seen it used frequently in the past 20 years is TVTropes. Outside of actual /lit/erature, it's pretty much "archaic" (hell, them using it for Kuno's speech implies they think it too).
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>>284364134
>She saying (as far as I can tell) that due to the anime she got both people saying the anime was showing too much nudity but also seeing fan magazines clearly into it in a dirtier way than she would ultimately prefer.
No offense to Rumiko, but
>draw hot characters
>write interesting personalities for them
>write them in no-holds-barred wacky situations
What did she expect?
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From this month's Animedia.
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Weekly Shonen Sunday's preview of Ranma ½ (2024) #23+24

Episode #23 Title: さらわれたあかね (same as chapter 95: "Abduction of...Akane?")
Episode #24 Title: がんばれムース (same as chapter 98: "Fowl Play", literally: "Go for it, Mousse!")
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>>284366901
No big surprises here.
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>>284351188
>in Japan, where they used to have vending machines that dispensed cans of beer and sake.
That should be an american thing, replace sake with tequila.
Still, it's kinda stupid, no kid is going "I'm going to get the girl of my dreams, drunk. Just like my hero Kuno did."
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>>284368090
>That should be an american thing, replace sake with tequila.
Outside? They'd get looted.
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>>284364978
I mean, she forgave them. She just found it amusing. The dissonance. She loves Go Nagai and stuff, so she's not a complete prude.
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>>284369146
>she's not a complete prude.
Obviously >>284320020
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>>284369175
Well, it seems she didn't think it was particularly salacious. Honestly, the Musk arc seems like almost a direct mockery of treating boobs as a big deal.

>[Q:] In Ranma 1/2, there is a kind of conspicuous eroticism: you're not afraid to show your characters in all their glory...

>Takahashi: There was a novelist who read Ranma 1/2 along with his grandson, and his grandson didn't understand the moments when the character switched genders. If you don't understand that, the story doesn't work anymore. That's why I had to draw it.
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>>284365359
He deserved punishment
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>>284364134
Thanks!
Interestingly, the full answer implies a lot of the the complainers were children. Puriteens existed in 80s Japan?
>Takahashi: There are many things, and among the postcards we receive, there are quite a few children who complain about various things. However, that being said, I think that the great thing about those who send fan mail are the ones that are good and cute, and each group has its own individuality.
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>>284368074
>Nabiki
Best girl
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>>284364241
So what word do the kids use these days when they mean ersatz?
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>>284370706
"mid"
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>>284324400
I love that we actually have fansub groups subbing old cool shit like this still.
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>>284318878
>King of the Crossdressers
shouldn't that be queen, ahem

>Daisuke/Shingo: Not crossdressing, he says.
>Hiroshi/Kiichi: Do tell!
So even Ranma's best friends think he's an okama?
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>>284372513
It's "Josou no tatsujin" in nip, so literally "master of crossdressing as a woman". Different from okama in that it's purely a clothes thing and not a behavior thing.
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>>284372674
Thanks.
But Ranma wears the same clothes as a girl and boy, usually.
So maybe the drama club thinks his girl form is a costume and the dub's "girl costume" translation was the right one.
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>>284373050
The dictionary definition is "A man taking on the guise of a woman", so it's not specifically about the clothes and more about the visual image as a whole.
And again, it's different from okama in that it's about LOOKING the part rather than ACTING the part.
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>>284373262
Good to know. I actually can't think of a great English translation for that concept.
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>>284373357
I think "crossdresser" is fine, it has similar enough connotations.

Our local translation used "transvestite".
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>>284368074
Where is this from?
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>>284374339
Animedia, same as >>284366490 >>284366509
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>>284366509
Anyone willing to translate this?
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>>284318732
Translations of the 40 questions for Takahashi in the recent fanbook
https://www.furinkan.com/takahashi/takahashi120.html

Scenes from Ranma 1/2 Interview with Rumiko Takahashi from the fanbook also translated
https://www.furinkan.com/takahashi/takahashi121.html
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>>284370706
"Knock off" or "cheap copy", usually. I wouldn't know past that, I hardly interact with "kids".
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>>284375562
>Q1. What do you think Ranma would do if he got his hands on a “drug that turns you completely into a girl”?
>Takahashi: Hmm, he probably wouldn't take it (laughs).

Kek, what did the asker have in mind? "Feed it to Akane"?
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>>284376594
Get repeatedly impregnated by Kuno guilt-free
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>>284319863
Heh, just now I catch up with how Ranma and Akane are just basically the reverse Romeo and Juliet, in the way their parents actually want for them to seal the deal but they wont out of stubborness
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>>284376594
I kind of want to think that they made up that question to mock all the freaks who think Ranma is a transgirl.
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>>284319863
>Oh, what a tragedy!
Kek, good one.
That reminds me, the remake left Ichiro out of it today.
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>>284379516
Would have been kind of silly to have the "radio club guy" doing narration over the literal "drama club" guys.
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>>284379516
He's y there for episodes with lots of side comments from random audience members. Not that much of that this week.
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>>284379516
>>284380581
Yeah, Ichiro is for when the narrator or fight commentary is from someone who otherwise has no relevant lines, so they don't have to hire another VA. They had to get a VA for the drama guy anyway.
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>>284375562
Oh, I think the clouds thing is new information. At least it is for me and I don't know if Furinkan suggested it before.
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>>284381284
I also never heard it before, even on Japanese sites, and I thought that was really cool. I did remember looking up the kanji in Soun's name once before this and seeing it had the cloud kanji, but obviously didn't think anything of it at the time.

I bet it's one of those cases where, from a Japanese perspective, the name theme probably seemed so obvious that it wasn't even worth mentioning because most people reading/watching would get it right away.
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>>284375562
>[Q:]I had no idea you were that worried, Takahashi-sensei...

>Because I was thinking like that, I was really in a hurry even after the serialization began. I couldn't think like, "This is the right time to end this storyline," or anything like that. I just immediately moved on to the next story without a break... The most blatant example of this was Shampoo's first appearance, which was sudden, at the end of the week after the martial arts skating storyline. Normally, I thought there would have been a more proper aftertaste or conclusion to the martial arts skating story, but I was just so anxious, like, "We have to get Shampoo out there quickly!" I had a hunch that Shampoo would become a great character in Ranma.

Heh, I have dealt with Shampoo fuckers saying that Rumiko hates Shampoo and made her crazy in order to keep Akane as the main girl for so long, it is nice to see that she state that she cares for the character directly. The fucking "she's a femcel getting back" theory is so absurd.
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>>284375562
I knew Twitter was mistranslating that answer about Jusenkyo springs.
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>>284382059
What, "I didn't not use any spring I came up with", as opposed to "the springs shown are all there is"?
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>>284382093
Yeah. It was obvious that's what she meant, but it's nice to have actual confirmation.
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>>284382159
I mean, if she hadn't been itching to return to a sengoku piece ala Fire Tripper, there were literally thousands of plot hooks unexplored with the various springs. Pantyhose already showed you had combination pools+could combine curses(people always say he dipped into the octopus pool, and his unique curse allowed him to add instead of overwrite, but I will always support the fact that he shot ink from his fingers is a clue that he probably dipped his fingers in and stroked the water onto his back for the tentacles). Rouge showed you could even drown minor deities. Musk showed curses could be inherited(with enough reinforcement). Phoenix tribe showed you could inherit the curse just by drinking cursed water. And so on.
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>Q12: What's the percentage chance that Mousse's love will be reciprocated?
>Takahashi: Hmm, there's no chance!
Shampoo confirmed for evil friendzoning cunt.
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>>284382254
>there were literally thousands of plot hooks unexplored with the various springs.
Obviously. The question seems to be more "Did you come up with a specific plot hook spring you wanted to use but didn't end up actually using" than anything.
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>>284382296
And mind you, it's ENTIRELY Cologne's fault for this situation. "Oh, she beat you one time when you were both three years old. No rematches!" Fucking old cunt. She probably knew once puberty gave Mousse the limb advantage, the situation could have been reversed.
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>>284382479
Shampoo genuinely doesn't like Mousse that way, though.
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>>284382611
It doesn't matter if she likes him or not, it's all a gag anyway but she is forced to marry any foreign man to the village that beat her.
This is proven in the chapter when she is under a spell to hate Ranma and he beats her again, and she goes "Fine. You can have my body you will never have my love" or something like that.
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>>284382719
The charm also makes her love those she hates, it's funny that even then she didn't like Mousse that way. She literally just likes him like a normal friend and nothing else.
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>>284382611
I mean, whose fault is that? Cologne had drummed it into her that because of some nothingburger fight when they were 3, he was beneath her notice. If not for the fucked up archaic laws of her village, and the shitty old crones who enforced them, they might have had a normal childhood to grow up together in.
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>>284383252
Or maybe it never mattered because he's always been the Tatewaki Kuno of Nyuchiezhu, demanding that Shampoo love him because because he's decided that he wants her and so he deserves her, damn what anyone else things, and she treats him with contempt because he consistently shows himself to be an inferior choice to Ranma in every way, shape and form?
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>>284381581
She'd never had made so many Shampoo arcs had she hated the character.
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>>284383722
Fuck off to the grave already, you dehydrated prune.
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>>284382296
But he had to have been meant originally as Shampoo's love interest, right? This is the writer who said she originally thought of Nabiki/Kuno and Ukyo/Ryoga, hard to believe she wouldn't have had the much more obvious Shampoo/Mousse in mind.
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>>284384232
She wrote herself into the corner on that one, by having Cologne refuse Mousse any recourse to overturn the result of their childhood fight, and not letting Mousse grow away from Shampoo.
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>>284320949
Thank you for posting.
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The Ukyo & Ryoga answer, sort of different from that twitter translation:

>Q31: Ukyo and Ryoga seemed to be getting along well at one point, but were there no plans to get them together?
>Takahashi: Well, I remember exploring the possibility, but no, there was no plan (laughs). There's such thing as chemistry, after all. If they got together because they were compatible, that'd be fine, but it's not right to pair them up just because the author wanted them to. I don't like it when it feels forced.
If only all authors were like this.
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>>284382479
Why DOES Cologne try to hard to help Shampoo to marry Ranma? Isn't their tribe officially xenophobic?
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>>284386366
>Isn't their tribe officially xenophobic?

No because Shampoo has an interview with her village's newspaper where she reports being married to Ranma and living in Japan. It didn't get censored. The real question is why Cologne insists it has to be Ranma after they've been in Japan for months and Shampoo has gotten nowhere. If any strong dick will do and Mousse is disqualified, they could have just honey potted Ryoga which would have taken five minutes.
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>>284386650
>>284386366
Cologne likes Ranma. She also thinks he's the strongest and most skilled, which he is.
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>>284386650
I think the one common thing that turns off almost every girl not named Akane or Akari from Ryoga, would be his lack of intelligence. Even in a world with the likes of Kuno, Ryoga's dumbness is pretty outstanding.
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>>284387742
>turns off almost every girl not named Akane or Akari from Ryoga, would be his lack of intelligence.
Akane doesn't dislike him for this dumbness, but it might be why she treats him more like a pet than a true close friend.
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>>284387742
Can't argue with that. Funny how it makes him more attractive to some of us 3Dpigs. Probably because the basement IQ makes his scumminess and machinations seem more innocent.
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>>284386650
>No because Shampoo has an interview with her village's newspaper where she reports being married to Ranma and living in Japan.
Oh ok, I guess the tribe is fine with foreigners if they know their place. Did the interview mention Ranma defeating her or did it conveniently leave that part out?
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>>284388845
I'd assume it left it in, since "being defeated by a foreigner" would be the main reason someone would move away to marry one.
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>>284386650
>>284388845
>>284389469
Here's a bullshit fantranslation of the scene. Someone else find the official.
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>>284389653
>article includes lewd descriptions of Shampoo and Ranma's sex life (according to Shampoo's imagination)
Now I want a copy.
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>>284389653
>>284389764
Viz version of Shampoo's hometown paper.
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>>284389469
Not necessarily, I don't think we heard of an Amazon taboo on moving abroad. But since the same-sex equivalent of "if a foreigner defeats you, you must marry him" is "you must kill her", I guess it's considered a disgraceful thing to be defeated by one.

But maybe not. Maybe the idea is just that the outsider threat has to be neutralized, so bringing the strong potential enemy into the tribe by marriage serves the same function as killing them.
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>>284389653
>>284390421
Viz's version makes it sound like Shampoo wasn't responsible for the article. It happens at the start of the Pink and Link arc which I've completely forgotten, so maybe they had something to do with it.
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>>284390666
I assume the Viz tl is accurate and the scanlation is mostly made up.
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>>284391452
yeah the scanlation is made up.
The only weird thing about the Viz version is that Ranma is able to read the title, 今月の新婚紹介-"This Month's Newlyweds" since they are kanji used in Japanese, but can't read the rest.
Viz changed the line with "does this say what I think it does?"
Does the Viz version say the title of the article somewhere?
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>>284391898
I assume Viz is trying to localize for an audience that thinks of Chinese as illegible scribbles rather than a language Japanese people are able to sort of make out to a limited extent due to its usage of the same characters.
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Shampoo is a bitch for not loving Mousse romantically.
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>>284392513
Shampoo has every right to want Ranma but not Mousse. Mousse is an actual creep.
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>>284392783
There are no non-creeps in your world, including yourself, Shampoo.
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>>284392783
>Mousse is an actual creep.

I mean not really? When you look at it, he is less creepy than 90% of the characters including Ranma. He never does anything to Shampoo without her consent besides trying to peep on her in the Hot Springs, which didn't matter because Shampoo jumped into the male side of the baths anyways. He turns down the chance to make Shampoo his slave. Other characters including Shampoo by her own admission wouldn't do that. He also doesn't express any interest in any other woman even physically.
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>>284393072
Ranma is creepy?
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>>284393371
No but you could make the argument that he is creepier than Mousse. Mousse doesn't play dress-up with other men.
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>>284392783
>Shampoo should dislike Mousse because he's a yandere stalker creep who ignores consent and boundaries
>even though Shampoo is also every one of those things
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>>284391452
How did a meme scanlation like that get made in the 90s? Even a decade after that, scanlators and fansubbers tended to value literal accuracy even if it was beyond their ability to execute (thus the "TL: keikaku means plan" parody). Maybe Ranma was normalfag enough to be ahead of the curve.
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>>284394222
In the 3rd panel, Shampoo has a weird kanji instead of the ふ… that's in the raw, so the scanlation of the time was probably made using the chinese translations, and translation of a translation are always a mess.
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>>284393649
Ranma is Chad and therefore has immunity against being a creep. Sorry. Only low-value men like Gosunkugi and medium-value men like Ryoga and Mousse can be creepy.
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Why doesn't Mousse just write Shampoo a long love letter? Even Shampoo can't say no to a 50 page love letter.
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>>284394393
>implying he can see well enough to write
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>Q19: Which character was the most fun to draw?
>Takahashi: I guess it would have to be Ryoga.

>Q16: Whose relationship was the most fun to draw?
>Takahashi: As for rivals, Ranma and Ryoga were really fun. They could argue with each other and even punch and kick each other.

>Q34: Which chapter of Ranma 1/2 do you think is your "best"?
>Takahashi: My favorite chapter to this day is the "The Legendary Moxibution of Evil" storyline (from "The Legendary Moxibustion of Evil" to "The World's Weakest Man" and "Weak For Life?!"). I love how Ryoga, who always seems to be an idiot, unexpectedly helps Ranma when he's weakened by the moxibustion, and how Akane genuinely cries after Ranma disappears. I also really liked the "Bakusai Tenketsu" storyline.

Rumiko is a barely disguised Ryogafag who knew full well what she was doing when she drew him looking sexy in suggestive situations over and over and paired him up with Ranma in the fishing pole of love arc, I rest my case.
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>>284394983
She likes goofy doofuses and found his bashful scenes very relatable. She's also a big fan of the big overreactions, which Ryoga obviously has plenty of.
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>>284389653
Aside from the "bride/groom" and their names, all the Chinese text is flipped. The biggest clue being the 猫飯店, but also Shampoo's 嘻.
>>284390421
This one is the right way around, even though the speech/reading order is left to right.
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>>284395925
>>284391898
Wait, nvm. The scanlators must have been using the old flipped copies. Plus, iirc, many of them were done by Indians, so they didn't care about the flipped kanji.
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>>284393786
When you put it that way, Mousse is actually LESS of a creep than Shampoo. She only gets away with it because of pussy privilege.
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>>284396089
Yeah. Shampoo might be a rapey, clingy stalker, but the fandom has never minded because 90+ percent of us would want Shampoo to rape and stalk and cling to us.
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>>284396126
Most of the other rapey clingy stalkers in the manga are also cute or hot. Even Gosunkugi is moe.
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About creeps, do the ANN types only performatively hate sexual harassment when it's done to Akane? I try to hear as little as possible about them but I've only heard of them complaining about Akane being harassed or creeped on by Happosai, Ryoga or Kuno, not when Ranma is the receiver.
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>There's people that believe one of these crazy bitches is a better girl than Akane
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>>284396791
I'm really tired of the pearl clutching surrounding Ranma in general. Yes, almost everyone is a bad person. That's the joke. We didn't mind in the 80s or 90s or even 2000s. If you can't find that funny, don't watch. Don't make the community high-strung by constantly treating Ranma like a MeToo case. If you dislike Happosai for being the most extreme case but are okay with the rest of the series then whatever I guess, but if you hate sexual harassment in general this just isn't the show for you. Harassment in general used to be the feature back when we didn't take fiction deathly seriously.
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>>284396931
I have no idea why they remade the series at all, modern fags clearly can't handle it even WITH censorship.
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>>284396931
>Yes, almost everyone is a bad person. That's the joke.
People say this, but I'd actually say most of the characters are sweet and friendly deep down. Ranma 1/2 is much more heartwarming and comfy than the soul-destroying shit those people praise, at any rate.
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>>284398236
I get exactly what you mean and I feel the same way
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>>284398236
Now that you mention it, that might be right. I'd have to think about it some more.
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>>284398334
Well, I'm happy people like you are still here in current year, anon.
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>>284395994
>the old flipped copies.
Wait, why did flipped copies exist before the official licensed translation?
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>>284398437
Ranma as a series is definitely comfy. Heartwarming and good-natured, sure. As for the characters... hmm.

>Ranma: Too complicated to sum up easily. Often a dick, often nice.
>Akane: Definitely a very nice girl
>Genma: Bad in a playfully-written way. Likes being around family and friends. Heartwarming at times. Calling him sweet in general, or to a significant degree, is probably going too far.
>Soun: An obviously good and normal by Ranma standards person
>Kasumi: lol
>Nabiki: Cares about her family, doesn't seem to care about anyone outside the dojo except Ryoga (she's excited to see him visit during an Akari arc)
>Ryoga: Generally one of the softer and warmer characters once you get past the early series, where he's a lot darker in nature (Mid/late Ryoga still has his moments but the average trends towards nice)
>Happosai: Doesn't really like/care about people in the same way that Genma does; closer to just being a sex pest and troll. Not much sweet or friendly here.
>Kuno: Generally a pretty friendly, likable, affable guy when not engaged in harem stuff
>Shampoo: Honestly kind of cold at heart; warm just to Ranma, Cologne, and rarely Mousse
>Mousse: Not a terrible person
>Kodachi: Not many redeeming qualities here
>Ukyo: Nice girl minus occasional stalker antics that everyone because it's funny
>Principal Kuno: Likes spending time around people, wants to help sometimes

So yeah, a significant majority of characters do have a softer half and the tone of the humor isn't black like the UY anime could sometimes be. The series does have plenty of heartwarming and good-naturedness that's overlooked.
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>>284398437
awww
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>>284398652
Old scanlators flipped them themselves because their readers were retards.
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>>284398756
>>Kodachi: Not many redeeming qualities here
Kodachi is most definitely heartwarming. She's the purest idealist, wants everything to be exactly the way it should be and will stop at nothing to create the perfect world.

Or, if you prefer looking at it out-of-universe, Kodachi is a femdom fetishist's fantasy. Catering to kinks is the act of a kind and comfy author and diametrically opposed to today's grimdark fan police.
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>>284400661
I remember ANN bitching a lot about how she was an evil rapist back in her remake debut arc.
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>>284400985
Why do they even watch Ranma.
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>>284400661
Maybe... this seems like stretching the definition of the word so far that it could apply to basically anything you like.
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>>284398756
It is honestly just a cutesy manga. Hell, even Happosai got genuine sympathetic moments.
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>>284401420
It is cute and good-natured. Never said otherwise... not entirely sure where the pushback to my post is coming from.
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>>284401513
Not pushing back, just going further than you.
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>>284318917
Super cunty stacy body language from Akane to fem Ranma, nice
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>>284318850
>>284318951
>Only Akane or Ranma can play the leads

What's the in-universe explanation for this? Casting is done by popularity? Japanese Juliet requires extensive martial arts skills?
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>>284318951
Cute chibi clinging Ranma
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>>284396928
No shit? Because here they actually have a "legitimate" grievance, thinking he's dumping them for "hot, older teacher". Akane hits him for the slightest provocation, INCLUDING those her own mind came up with. DAILY.
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>>284403265
Akane was picked to be Juliet because she's canonically the prettiest and most popular girl at Furinkan High, so the drama club thought she'd guarantee them a victory, and didn't stop to think about the perverts and weirdos chasing after her.

After Kuno and Happosai "applied" to join the drama club and forced their way into the role of Romeo, the drama club was stuck; nobody at Furinkan other than Ranma is brave enough to try and fight against those two, who are widely known to be the best fighters in school outside of Ranma. And they didn't dare risk dismissing Akane because a) they were still hoping to parlay her "star power" into victory in the contest, and b) they were worried it would just make Kuno and Happosai beat them all up for "insulting Akane".

So yeah, they let Ranma stick his oar in because they hated Kuno and Happosai in the role, but Ranma's the only guy brave/dumb enough to actually fight them for it.
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>>284398756
Cologne is arguably "evil", just barely above Happosai on the morals meter. Cat's Tongue, general misandry to Mousse, selling dodgy shit(super appetite noodles), scheming and manipulative. Her rare moments of "altruism" are still self-serving at heart. Amaguriken was part of the cat tongue ploy, she didn't seriously think he'd be able to learn it the regular way, much less by an alternative method, so he would eventually have come begging for her to undo it. Hiryushotenha was a combination of "fuck you, Happosai" and just trying to preserve her great granddaughter's marriage prospect. Free information is free, but at the end of the day, it costs "nothing" to talk.
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>>284394222
The old Ranma scanlation of the later chapters was done at a point when Viz hadn't been making official Ranma translations for a few years, before they started again and finished the series IIRC. Fans did have some sort of rough translation from Japanese or maybe Chinese that they were working off, but since a bunch of different people worked on this project (usually adapting like a chapter or two themselves from the translation script and into a more colloquial one based off the established "voices" of the characters in English), they pretty much used this project as a license to essentially write fanfiction at certain times.

What I mean by this is that it felt like most translators came at it with an agenda, like to try to punch up the script and make it funnier/to hint at pairings they personally liked/to express their own views on Ranma's gender identity/etc.

Like certain changes in the scanlation that still get mistaken for canon/the original intent by fans include:
>Soun saying he will marry Ranma himself if he stays stuck as a woman
>added Ranma/Ryoga chemistry to certain chapters
>Ranma saying in the finale arc that the female form was part of him all along and that he's come to accept it after all
etc.

And honestly sometimes the times when the "translators" were going off script and making shit up for comedy could be pretty funny, but it's closer to fans making their own scripts for the chapters based on Takahashi's visuals and a rough outline of the plot than a legit translation.
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>>284404809
Just looked up the exact details since I wasn't sure of the timeline-- the scanlation might have instead been done in the late '90s in an attempt to overtake Viz's translation and get the entire series available in English, since their release schedule was pretty slow.
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>>284403874
As the story progresses Cologne becomes more and more helpful and barely any evil anymore, she helps Mousse when he thought Shampoo gave him the 3 "years smile of death", she also helps him when they all thought he was cursed by a Buddha statue, she helps Ryouga for no reason a few times too, like advising him and Ranma to not use the Lion's Roar, or when Ranma wanted something to help Ryouga with Akari.
She could easily be a bitch and be like "I'm not helping you until you agree to marry Shampoo" but she never does that.
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>>284405116
I want to say it's probably shortly after the HRSH arc, when she realises the harem situation is not going to resolve easily.
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Tofu got done dirty. His stopped appearing for like 20 volumes and then only got a tiny cameo in the last volume.
At least it seems he's getting somewhere with Kasumi.
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>>284404809
tldr dubfags ruin everything
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>>284401180
Not for Kodachi's witch ass
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>>284406263
That's supposed to be Kasumi? Looks way too young.
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>>284407723
Yes
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>>284407723
It is part of a much much much larger piece.
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>>284406263
Tofu was a creep, a freak, and worst of all, he was *boring*. Takahashi dumping him and focusing on Cologne was one of her smartest decisions.
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>>284410069
>Tofu was a creep, a freak
He really wasn't. And while he was kind of boring, I wish she had done more with him and Kasumi. That early anime filler about him is very funny.
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Tofu was the man. Instantly recognized who best girl was.
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>>284410069
>Tofu was a creep, a freak, and worst of all, he was *boring*.
What leads to hating a nothing character so much that you use mutually contradictory insults?
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https://x.com/ranma_pr/status/1999041479269069181

Next episode preview, looks bad.
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>>284412944
>>284412902
Duality of man.
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lol it's true, the old fantranslation is full of made up lines.
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>>284414180
Jesus Christ.
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>>284414180
>>284414480
I read it around 2004 so long before trans stuff was a hot button culture war issue and just thought this was neat character development. 'Character development' often has people be the opposite of their beginning of story self. What did he actually say though?
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Is the anime going to totally forget about riogas training arc and akanes cooking skills????
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>>284414691
Not sure about the latter, but the Breaking Point arc is delayed to season 3
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>>284414651
He is saying he forgot about it in a sweet moment to Akane, but he's just coping and doesn't get into the not a curse bit.
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>>284414180
How did the translate the punchline of Akane pointing out the coping on the next page?
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>>284414897
Damn. That's some uh... extreme rewriting. And I say that as someone that always liked the rewrite when I thought it was a faithful translation.
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>>284394324
>>284395994
>>284404809
So the scanlation was Japanese translated to Chinese translated to English by Indians using mirrored scans, followed by agenda-driven fanfiction rewrites? That's, uh, very ahead of the times.
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>>284404887
Interesting, thanks anon.
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>>284415544
Sounds about right. I bought the whole collection in Chinese c. 1997. It was probably easier to acquire back in the day. Plus, if you're in the US at the time, I'd assume it was easier to find a Chinese friend who could translate it to English, and/or "you" would be more likely to be a Chinese immigrant(HK or Tw) than a Japanese one (and the latter would also be less likely to care about translating to English anyway). Perfect storm for the clusterfuck above.
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>>284404809
Man, it sounds like Ranma was huge back then. The internet itself was niche and yet you had multiple fan projects "adapting" chapters?
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>>284416909
Yup. Ranma 1/2 was a big deal in Western spaces. The way UY was in Japan and the way Inuyasha was everywhere.
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>>284406263
She keeps coming back to his office even though every time she's there he's a giant fuckup, she can't totally hate him.
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>>284416909
Alongside Eva, Ranma was probably THE biggest anime in the west at the time.
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>>284403840
Checks out, the drama club should've learned martial arts.

Why did they say if Akane didn't play Juliet it would have to be Ranma, though?
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>>284419120
Because Akane had just refused them while volunteering Ranma, and Ranma's girl-form is considered the second-hottest girl at Furinkan High, so they figured he was a decent alternative if they couldn't have Akane.
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>>284320972
Wasn't that a real quote?
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>>284419648
>Ranma's girl-form is considered the second-hottest girl at Furinkan High,
Is that canon?

>>284416861
Neat, I guess that's part of Shampoo's popularity.
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>>284369521
It's coming.
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>>284424656
Having Ranma dress up as a maid for you is not punishment.
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>>284425270
No wonder I thought Akane felt OOC there.
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>>284320500
>A: You know you loved it.
>R: Hah! Why do you think I stuck tape over his mouth?!
>A: So you claim.
Remake apparently censored Akane's lines into "I don't care" and "whatever".

What was the problem?
>even sarcastically suggesting Ranma enjoyed the kiss with Kuno was too much cucking for Rankane
>acting like it would be bad if Ranma really kissed Kuno and enjoyed it was homophobic/transphobic
>neither, Viz's translation was embellished
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>>284426811
Every version censors the manga line. She calls him a pervert in the manga. Viz choose to not translate it and the remake changed it to 知るか
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>>284426811
>>284427093
The English dub of the 1989 anime actually kept the "pervert" line. Something like "Why don't you go back and kiss Kuno again? Pervert." Arguably sometimes English Ranma translations of "hentai" as "pervert" aren't always accurate to the original intention since in some cases it might be meant more as Akane calling Ranma a freak/weirdo or something and not specifically related to sexuality or whatever, but in this case I think pervert is probably what the original line was implying.

And yeah, I think it commonly gets censored because the implication is "if Ranma actually wanted to kiss Kuno, that would have been GAY, and that's gross and weird"
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>>284352251
Am I the only one who thinks Akari is extremely pretty and hot.
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>>284427404
She's a cutie.
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>>284427258
>And yeah, I think it commonly gets censored because the implication is "if Ranma actually wanted to kiss Kuno, that would have been GAY, and that's gross and weird"
The remake has censored a lot of such lines, but the old Viz manga translation usually kept them.
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>>284427404
>>284427662
Yes but she's a weirdo and dull as fuck. Don't like her.
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>>284398146
Do we know if it's being fairly successful or not?

>>284398236
>I'd actually say most of the characters are sweet and friendly deep down
This. I love that they all seem like jackasses but deep down you see they are good hearted when shit hits the fan.
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I don't know much about the manga past what the OG anime had, and I don't intend to get spoiled, but I've heard the ending is a bit underwhelming.
Since the remake is not following all the manga, and even reordering stuff, do you guys think there's any chance they will expand on it?
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Back when the first season of the remake was airing, I remember some guy publishing an analysis of each episode of the remake's translation compared to machine translation and his own notes.

Does anyone have the link to that? Is he perhaps doing the same for the 2nd season?
I don't know much japanese, but some things feel off.
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>>284429947
>do you guys think there's any chance they will expand on it?
There's enough manga material for at least 3 more seasons, even assuming they skip standalone "filler" chapters. No sense wasting precious slots on original content when the director himself said he'd like to finish animating the entire manga(or at least, the major/plot important ones).
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>>284427093
Really interesting. I wonder why even Viz cut that one, as the other anon said they usually kept "hentai"s.
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>>284430421
What if it's really popular?
I'm not aware of the pulse the Ranma remake has in Japan or worldwide right now.
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Honest question: Would homophobes be grossed out by fem Ranma kissing a guy, fem Ranma kissing a girl, or both?
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>>284430091
https://localizers.exposed/tag/ranma-1-2-2024/

It's like current corporate "translation" is ragebait designed to make us beg for AI overlords
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>>284431749
Thanks anon.
But URL is wrong. It's .ch not .exposed
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How many seasons do we have to go through before we get to the post-Nodoka stuff? Series is going by quick thanks to lack of filler and skipping minor arcs.
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>>284323355
>>284323543
>>284431749
>>284430091
Is any fansubber group doing a proper translation of Ranma, or are we stuck with Netflix's subs?
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>>284432149
Probably late Season 3/Season 4 should be done introducing Nodoka, I think.
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>>284432246
There are mtl subs I believe. They're better than shitflix.
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>>284432149
It's hard to say, because they are jumbling shit; we've had stories from the first 10 volumes of the manga, but we've skipped some and scrambled others (Ukyo should have appeared after Romeo & Juliet).

Nodoka debuted in arc #54, chapter 225, and we'll be ending season 2 with Mousse's return, arc #20. In comparison, season 1, which did animate every single arc to that point, ended with Shampoo's debut, which was arc #7.

So... yeah, it's anybody's ballgame.
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>>284431211
Unironically it depends on how they personally view Ranma's gender identity in female form which is kind of up to the individual. There's not a consensus among the Ranma fandom or anything, and some people call the character "he" in both forms because Ranma personally identifies as a guy all the time, while others like me tend to use "she" for the female form to make it clear which form I'm talking about, since English doesn't make a designation between 乱馬/らんま in writing like Japanese allows for, and also because it really is an actual female body. Like from my perspective using "she" is the textual/verbal equivalent of Ranma clearly getting shorter/having boobs/etc. in visual form.

That's a tangent but yeah, it depends on the homophobe.

I'm not homophobic but from my perspective fem Ranma kissing a guy could be viewed as straight or at least not completely gay, because it could kind of be like the physical needs/desires of the female biology playing a role. I say this as someone who likes the idea of Ranma ending up with her male rivals though. Fem Ranma/Akane looks more gay visually but I guess could also be argued as psychologically straight since it's a carryover from the male form. Fem Ranma with a random girl met in female form might be pretty gay
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>>284432833
The only stuff they've shown out of order so far is Romeo and Juliet.
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>>284433589
If any of the skipped arcs show up in the next season, which seems possible for some of them, then those will be out of order.
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>>284430520
Could be that Viz wasn't intentionally censoring but thought "You know you liked it" gets at Akane's actual objection better.

Because even though
>>284427258
>the implication is "if Ranma actually wanted to kiss Kuno, that would have been GAY, and that's gross and weird"
and Akane IS period-typically weirded out by homosexuality as we see with Tsubasa or Konatsu, her irritation at Ranma supposedly flirting with guys reads like it's first and foremost about Ranma being a slut, more than Ranma being a slut with men specifically. I mean, it's not very different from her irritation when Ranma supposedly flirts with girls.
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>>284432572
>mtl subs
I've searched for "ranma mtl" on Nyaa and nothing came up
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>>284433810
Bakusai Tenketsu is basically confirmed, we have remake-style promo art for it.
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>>284302709
So this was right,
>>284366901
This probably means that S3 is also happening.
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>>284434684
Where? I loved that arc.

>>284433589
Do we know why they showed Romeo and Juliet out of order specifically?
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>>284434875
>This probably means that S3 is also happening.
Bless!
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>>284434875
Nice. So which arcs do you think are going to get included next year?
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>>284435115
We can only look at the manga and more or less guess, the arcs they skipped are:
Breaking Point- this will get animated for sure, it's a classic arc, it establishes that Akane can't cook for shit, and the breaking point gets used by Ryouga all the time.

The tea ceremony battle- this one is not funny, will probably get skipped.

The japanese spring of the drowned man arc- I don't know, it's a funny arc, but there's a lot of Happossai, and I don't think they want to use him.

The one with Akane's cookies, where Kodachi ends up blackmailing Ranma and they visit the Kuno house. This one is hilarious and has cute Akane and Ranma moments, probably will get adapted.

Then there's the content after the Mousse arc, the one with the jewels that can make people fall in love will probably get adapted imo, it's funny and surprisingly Happosai isn't too much of an annoyance here.
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>>284435115
If they want to introduce semi-frequent characters a little sooner, principal Kuno and Hinako might show up as early as next year. S4 at the latest. Nodoka probably after that.
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>>284435717
Who's Nodoka?
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>>284368178
Oh, right, I forgot about it. They wouldn't last a week.

>>284383722
If he were a Kuno type, then Shampoo shouldn't have any trouble in winning against him and settling things for good.

>>284386650
Tradition. The real question is whether they would have gone through if it had been an undesirable guy.

>>284392783
>Ranma, the guy who likes to pull a Bugs Bunny on Ryoga, isn't a creep.
Anon...

>>284396791
They did make Happosai hump on Ranma's leg in the remake.
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>>284437472
>They did make Happosai hump on Ranma's leg in the remake.
They did, but did westoids even care, or did they only rage about Happosai perving on Akane and the schoolgirls?
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>>284437273
In case you have trouble remembering names and aren't just making a joke about Nodoka getting censored out of the remake: Ranma's mom. I think she shows up in volume 14 or somewhere thereabouts.
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>>284396791
ANN bitched a lot about the Kodachi arc because Kodachi was sexually assaulting Ranma in it.
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I don’t want to admit this, but I had a dream last night where I was Ranma in his female form and I was kidnapped by Kodachi and forced to do all kinds of degrading acts.
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>>284438706
The latter.
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>>284440136
>sexual assault against transmascs doesn't count
Figures.
>>284438736
When ANN is a model of consistent standards in comparison to them...
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I will never understand how someone can run a major news site about anime and still be so opposed to extremely common anime content? At that point, just watch western shit, Jesus.
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>>284435717
They've introduced all the actual major characters, so I assume they'll slow a bit down after this.
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>Q33: Will Ranma get his affairs in order and marry Akane? I can't die until I see Ranma and Akane's official wedding!!!
Takahashi: I'm sure they're handling things properly (laughs). If they just clean up their relationships a bit, it should be fine
KEK Rankane fags will never get a closure.
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>>284440673
The west gonna west.
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>>284442771
>I'm sure they're handling things properly

Good enough for me.
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>>284442771
She points out they both have harems to settle, not just Ranma.
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>>284427258
>Arguably sometimes English Ranma translations of "hentai" as "pervert" aren't always accurate to the original intention since in some cases it might be meant more as Akane calling Ranma a freak/weirdo or something and not specifically related to sexuality or whatever,
Does Akane ever call him that when it's not about his transformation or disguises or sexuality? Crossdressing was/is viewed pejoratively as a sexual kink, so the "pervert" translation there always made sense to me.
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>>284447650
I think she does sometimes, but I could be wrong. I'm not saying "pervert" is wrong as a translation since a lot of the time her saying it IS in relation to some gender changing antics, but I think it's been pointed out that sometimes she's said "hentai" in situations where pervert wouldn't really make sense, and so in those cases she might just be generically insulting him.
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>>284437472
>Ryu Kuno
Maybe before he allegedly reforms. Could be an interesting alt continuity, where he includes some bombs in addition to his violent home invasion style. Meanwhile, Kodachi tries to take advantage of the confusion to kidnap Ranma.
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>>284442771
I'm sure they never marry each other.
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>>284404225
>Heck the way Akane is written I'd even say that she would call off her engagement to Ranma. That's why Rumiko never cared to resolve this situation.
Could the schizo that wrote this post explain why Akane would dump Ranma? At the end of the day Ranma and Ryoga are good guys and they both are protective of Akane. Ryoga is always respectful to her even in his p-chan form. He isn't a perv like Kuno or Happoshit and takes ever advantage of her or the situation.
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>>284451266
Q32: I'm curious to see what Akane and Ranma's future paths will be after graduating from Furinkan High School~!!
Takahashi: They'll take over the dojo, after all. The premise is that they'll take over the Tendo Dojo.

It's literally the premise of the story they will marry and inherit the dojo.
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>>284451488
So if they're supposed to marry and take over the dojo, that means that Ranma will become Tendo Ranma, right? That name sounds weird.
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I want to fuck Ranma in both forms.
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>>284451488
>It's literally the premise of the story they will marry and inherit the dojo.
That's Soun and Genma's premise, it's not necessarily how that could turn out.
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>>284451820
t. Ryoga
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>>284451617
I don't think so. The dojo itself would probably keep the Tendo name but in tradition of like, Japanese society/sex roles in general Akane would probably take Ranma's name.
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>>284451846
Knowing Ryoga he'd rather get stuck being a piglet for the rest of his life...
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>>284452029
Maybe you don't know him all that well
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>>284451996
>>284451617
It's a bit more complex than that. If the wife's side holds all the wealth, including property(ie, the only power that matters), the husband is traditionally adopted into the family, taking their name. A "recent" example would be blue Ai's family from the Ryuou shogi anime. He was a worker at her mother's family's inn when they fell in love, so he took her name, and she calls almost all of the shots in the family.
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>>284452052
I do. Not even once did he show any attraction or genuine sympathy towards Ranma while he enjoyed being close to Akane in his pig form.
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>>284452098
Basically yes though the husband doesn't need to be adopted anymore. Since the postwar reforms couples pick which name they want to take. Daughters can also inherit directly. It's just strong social pressure that means most couples still go with the husband's name.
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>>284453351
I think sometimes, they adopt the man because it allows the family name to survive, because maybe some daughters would feel pressured to adopt their husband's name, but if the man had a name he wanted to escape from(perhaps a shameful ancestor), becoming the new son lets them start over(and maybe his sperm have actually viable Ys).
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https://streamable.com/q2wl9o

Ranma is always worrying about Akane
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Is Akane pure muscle or pure fat?
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>>284415030
does she not wear panties?

>>284398236
Shampoo tabula rasa'd Akane and could have killed her.
Kodachi uses spiked clubs in competitions
Ryouga damn near raped Ranma one time
Mousse tried to kill Ranma plenty

the fk you mean friendly deep down?
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>>284452948
You just need to pay better attention
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Honest question for manga readers, what 89' anime filler episodes feel like stories Rumiko would have written?
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>>284456314
The other Tendo sisters. I want them to be canon.
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Meme material
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>>284457390
The black bars hurt it though.
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>>284452948
Being an occasional pig when convenient is different from being a pig 24/7. If sex with Ranma was the only way not to become stuck as a perma-pig (that was the og scenario here) he'd be an idiot to refuse.
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>>284457390
Is this the same tiger who was romantically rejected by Kuno in the ailurophobia episode?
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>>284459456
That's just what tigers look like in Ranma 1/2. But maybe!
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>>284455670
Rumiko art back then was so fucking beautiful.
...what the fuck happened?



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