The CIA will win btw.
It's actually fucking out? damn i missed the thread
Fake anime.
The Spider will wake up and win.
type redline anime soon
remember when gil was the strongest servant
Pic related when?
If I were a servant summoned in the grail war that shit would be over in 3 days maximum.
>>285185261i wonder if he would perform mana transfer with the wolf.
>>285185234Only when servants were associated exclusively with heroic spirits. Thanks to FGOshit, you can make anything a servant now. His jurisdiction was always heroes.
>>285185234I do not.
>>285185225Nobbu in anime form would be incredible. I hope it gets a good budget. Though she's less silly and fun in Redline.
Non-stop sexsexsex
>>285185285>Thanks to FGOshit, you can make anything a servant nowThe problem started with Extra, as many problems with Fate's larger worldbuilding do. When Extra shit was confined to a handful of PSP games nobody played that was fine, but Nasu used FGO as a chance to recycle all his terrible ideas from Extra.
>>285185285>ou can make anything a servant now.pretty sure Rin says in FSN that animals and even things can become heroic spirits.
Counting both Ayaka and Sigma, how would you rank the Fate MCs from most to least autistic?
>>285185343Yes? I said heroic spirits were servants. Animals being heroic spirits is perfectly okay? The problem is when things arent heroic spirits or qualify for it at all.>>285185340That depends. I forget. Were the alter egos considered servants or AIs? Because Kiara was human, and BB was an AI. They weren't servants either. Meltlilith and Passionlip, on the other hand, I don't remember.
>F-FGO did thisGilKEK copeJet solos
>>285185401>The problem is when things arent heroic spirits or qualify for it at all.i mean, thats not for you to decide.
>>285185340Except Extra had the fact it was a virtual world with different rules.The problem is when Nasu applied the rules of that virtual world to physical one which has caused even more nonsense that not even Extra era Nasu could have dreamt up.
>>2851851862 threads
So far this series has filled me with joy. Genuinely, a fantastic start to my year.
>>285185234>Slaughters TiamatHe still is
>>285185422>Except Extra had the fact it was a virtual world with different rules.The mere existence of it is, in itself, completely retarded for many, many reasons. There is a reason I never explain anything about the Mooncell to my friends who ask me Fate questions. I just pretend it doesn't exist.
Legally speaking, could Ayaka claim to be part of the El-Melloi family?
CCC Karna in armor solos Gil. Facts.
>>285185457it's like calling a dog being part of the family
>>285185409
For any anime onlies that don't understand Assassin's deal since it wasn't spelled out like it was in the LN she recreated the abilities of the previous Hassan's to the best of her ability in life and as a Servant has sort of knockoffs of all of them that are sometimes weaker or stronger or something entirely different with the same end result. Like entering the station by smashing all the barriers and knocking out the power is her version of a previous Hassan's ability to sneak past any barrier.
>>285185466can't even beat Gawain lmao
>>285185321Church girls best girls!
>>285185466
>>285185420It is when it was a stated fact that servants = heroes and that were used interchangeably. Until the rules started breaking and you could shove just about anything into a servant container. Blame the shift in the narrative.
>>285185457In normal circumstances? Only as literal property and research materialAs the family currently stands? Reines would likely agree to adopt her, then throw her at Waver to take care of.
>>285185482>delightful rendezvous with Lord GilgameshDamn, he's so respectful
>>285185561He's a French gentleman after all.
>>285185296Redline is literally just gudaguda grail war, told entirely seriously without being a joke. We already know how the entire story goes ahead of timehttps://mangadex.org/title/cc8986fd-47ba-41cb-bb1e-296d1fd3d525/koha-ace-go-imperial-capital-holy-grail-strange-storyThe entire Redline manga so far is only up to Ch6 of the original story. For anyone that wants spoilers for how the entire Redline manga will go.
Fuck Rin
>>285185496So the unga bunga was a zabaniya in itself?
Would you? Be honest
I'm amazed that A1 managed to blend stylized stuff with realistic backgrounds in a way that makes Heaven's Feel movies look amazing.
I wonder if Grandpa Dioland and Darnic knew each other
>>285185592Yeah I know, I read the redline manga and I'm familiar with gudaguda and koha ace. I love my silly Nobbu, but scary as shit nobbu is also good. She's just so cute and has an amazing seiyuu.
FSF Ayaka is clearly not the same person with FP Ayaka
>>285185496All she had was written descriptions of the various miracles achieved by the Hassan elders. She modified her body heavily to recreate what she believed those miracles were. Because the only thing she had was vague writings on their abilities, that's why a lot of the time her version of their NP can be pretty "off". Its just her trying to achieve the same result using different means. Also you really don't need 18 NPs that do basically similar things.
>>285185496>53kg
I need art of Francesca and GBF Cagliostro fressed like these two
>>285185633I just really like cute girls in military outfits and capes, and red/black is a strong color pallet for such an outfit.
>>285185592>>285185225Is there even a site with all the chapters together after the purge. I know the latest chapters are on the blog/imgur and some of the earlier chapters on some aggregator sites
>>285185496>No three sizesBooooooo
>>285185612I don't know who this whore that keeps getting posted with Prelati is.
>>285185652Lancer is so fucking huge. It's easy to forget cause Berserker exists, but he's a fucking UNIT. Like 6'6 and probably over 250lbs of muscle.
>>285185694Matsunaga Danjou
>>285185652>Saber is a dwarf
>>285185726She is very short, but Lancer is also just pretty tall.
>>285185616Yeah, I really have no idea what they were thinking with this approach.
>>285185361it's a pretty tough fight
>>285185526I bet most players chose Hakunon for Gil and Redman. >still no release date for EXTRA>CCC never ever
>>285185680>Reason shit keeps getting purged is every manga site that becomes widely known gets hit with DMCA and purged instantly lately>Someone gives you a link to an obscure manga site that has it>It becomes widely known since it gets shared around>Instantly hit with the purge nextAny site that gets shared heavily is going to be hit, therefore any site we could link you only puts it at risk.
>>285185466Reminder Gil took serious damage when he fought Lancer for 12 hours in FSN.
>>285185707it makes sense why all normal women from fuyuki falls for him
AFTER FGO every fate anime feel so lame and souless
How does the opening rank among it, Baccano, Durarara and DMDP?
>>285185496I appreciate the show skipping over all the explanations that would slow present events to a standstill, stuff like this could be used as eyecatches, like Jojo stands.
>>285185652>we will never get more of this because Medea's VA died.
>>285185787truth nukem
>>285185809It was good direction. They didn't stop in the middle of the fight explaining mechanics when it wasn't needed. You can understand what's going on from action alone.
>>285185858This is what passes for sakuga these days?
The episode was good but what made me feeled bummed was realizing that there's not ever gonna be another Fate entry that has the same spirit as FSN.
>>285185785He's one of the more popular male servants in FGO as well, which is why there's 5 different versions of him in the game so far.
Jester got lots of sakuga
I just realized the only Servants in this war that aren't a massive mana sink are Fake Caster and True Assassin.
>>285185942I bet all the yumejos that grailed older Cus are mad it took like 8 years for shota Cu to be released
>>285185932By which you mean slowWatch Case Files anime
>>285185980Nah the feel isn't even close, too immersed in anime hogwarts right from the start.I take it that anon wants an urban fantasy with some slow buildup and a mix of SoL and action. Honestly, he'd probably have better luck looking OUTSIDE of Type Moon, like some other of those VN franchises. Like Umineko and whatnot.
>>285186079MOU IKKAI
>>285185787WHether or not you're shitposting, I agree that FGO broke too many ceilings. Even FSF, which used to be THE crazywtf Fate work, feels tame.
>Monsters and mages are mostly weirdosLmao
>>285185980I mean the Urban Fantasy vibes. The blend of normal highschool life during the day but Grail War stuff at night. Magic battles fought right under the noses of the ordinary people. Like early Bleach or Shana.The sense of mystery surrounding each hero. I don't like how the servants identities are revealed so easily.The focus on character drama first and action scenes second.At least have a proper main character to follow. I don't need to see everyone's viewpoint. I'm happy Strange Fake has the decency to not jump around between too many plots after the introduction at least.Zero did irreversible damage to the franchise.
>>285185894lmaoThey should've switched to her pov/thoughts before she broke through the barrier instead of wasting so much time on overanimating the priest meeting the cops.Camera from above or first person pov entry into a sudden np intercepting her since they were tipped off would've been great
>>285186245I don't think you've ever read a Narita story beforeEspecially if you think its switching viewpoints because "Its clearly copying zero"
>>285186245>I'm happy Strange Fake has the decency to not jump around between too many plots after the introduction at least..........Oh anon.
>>285185932They're modeled on F/Z which is fairly shallow storytelling with large ensemble casts, and a tendency for big dramatic confrontations instead of masters and servants skulking around a town and sort of bumbling into one another and having short skirmishes or tense stand offs. In general F/SN had a lot more horror elements to it, a focus on spooky urban fantasy stuff, while F/Z was bombastic, with high drama and tragedy rather than more character driven drama in F/SN.
>>285186246The impact was cooler because they didn't show it.>overanimating Stop overposting.
>>285186245>describe zero>claim it did irreversible damagehmm...
>>285186245love that shit too, love urban fantasy, shame fate is so far from it now.
As an actual review of this episode, it was well directed. They're blitzing through the volumes at this pace but I didn't feel anything was off. And at a closer look, the centerpiece of the episode is actually Hansa, not Jester or the police>Last episode introduces Hansa>This episode addresses the positions of some of the master-servant pairs, specifically Richard and Ayaka, who are held by the police.>Hansa visits Gilgamesh and Tine, the prominent pair so far, showing that he's taking his job seriously>Shifts over to Orlando antagonizing Hansa because there's been a leak in information.>Ends with Hansa saving the police, just as Jester shat on humans for not having any faith.>Priest vs vampire next episodeThe cast is big, but they're handling the moving pieces well so far. The early parts of FSF are better than the later parts imo.
>>285186245>I'm happy Strange Fake has the decency to not jump around between too many plots after the introduction at least.lol LOLbro, is this your first Narita story? Never watched Baccano, Durarara? Oh man.
>>285186292Oh come on, they way he was turning around when he realized people were gone was just too much.
>>285186292Forced animation was a term long before you discovered this site. Retards misusing it does not invalidate it either.Idc which was 'cooler' if alot of characterization is cut out in a character driven story, retarded monkey
>15 years of superiority
>>285186275>>285186340Well I'm expecting it to get worse but this episode was surprisingly well contained because aside from the casino part the whole episode took place at one location.
>>285186363Forced animation is a shitposting term that only newfags use.
>Forced animation was a term long before you discovered this site.
>>285186367Strange Fake intro > FZ intro>Walks in circles memeButcher and ufotable are hacks. Now cry, tertiary
my cute wife btw
>>285186433says the tertiaryall of you faggots need to die
>>285186389>Retards misusing it does not invalidate it either.poor bait to be desu so I ain't continuing
>>285186246>They should've switched to her pov/thoughts before she broke through the barrier instead of wasting so much time on overanimating the priest meeting the cops.This reminds me of the criticism of Ufo's UBW adaptation, why do some people need narration to explicitly explain everything instead of being able to pick up from show-not-tell?
>>285186441reminds me of rebuild of evangelion.
>>285186389>segments full of unnecessary animation in which characters move in over-exaggerated way for no reason at allBetter?
You already did
>cant enjoy any fate without ret/a/rds turning into console warsits not that serious
How do you resist mind reading? I remember one of the reasons Saber refused to give her name to Shirou was because he had no resistance, but that was sort of a special case. Can weak mages that know what they’re doing mentally resist someone notably more powerful? Can minds be read from afar, without the target even knowing?
>>285186479That criticism was true in case of HF adaptation btw.
>>285186459It only started being used in the early-mid 10s specifically by shitposters. You are clearly a newfag who arrived after this period, during the waves of newfags brought in during the gamergate years who saw it being used and mindlessly repeated it without understanding it was trolls and baitposts.
>>285186493arc is so sexy when she's all villainous like that
>>285186480it does feel like that visual yeah, but she does have a Dingir in mythology in the seven colours of the rainbow
>>285186387Personally, I feel like the story actually works quite well during the early parts. Up until the big fight in front of a hospital happens I actually have very little to complain about. Then there's a bit of story that happens in a different plane immediately after, which had some dubious stuff but I still enjoyed.It's when they get back to the city from that other plane that I feel like the story loses the plot completely.I'd say you'll find this show enjoyable for its first cour, then it's up in the air.
>>285186459It was literally invented by shitposters. Find me a single instance of anyone using it seriously in the archives from before like 2014 when newfags started spamming it on this board.
>>285185612Yes, I would.
>>285186522usually anti-mind reading stuff is encoded into a magic crest so if you don't have one you don't really have defenses
>>285186367I may need to rewatch this show. So many great moments to relive.
>>285186522Most weak external magical effects can be resisted by circulating your energy within with enough vehemence. You just need to know how to do that, it's like flexing a muscle you don't know you have until you train with it.
>>285186479>why even have dialogue, just show everything...see >>285184691 and you might get why it'd be nice to have some of that carry over. Her retarded recklessness and "incompetence" isn't as apparent as it should be
>>285186493I don't know who this girl is but for some reason I'm getting an urge to see her raping blue-haired slutty nuns.
>FSF Anime Thread>Filled with Tsukihime crap???
>>285186572>>285186533'twas a good invention. Even if it took time for cases in which it actually applied to appear.
>>285186571nta but agreed.FSF up until volume 5 was tight. To me, it really becomes a mess when>Thia appears and stupid shits starts happening.The Ishtar segment was fine though. I appreciate Filia as a whole and I definitely feel that she's someone Narita mapped out alright. It's everything around her, especially the El-Melloi classroom dogshit, that I disliked. True Assassin is also an asspul as far as I'm concerned.
>>285186533>>285186572see >>285186493
>>285186620Where do you think Dead Apostles come from?
I love refreshing my fate bait folder
>>285186620yeah
>>285186493I did not detect any movements that gave the appearance of being over-exaggerated.
>Faldeus and Orlando hold Francesca by the wrists in the EDLmao
>>285186620>member x in nasuverse slop thread>not having x in nasuverse discussion
Okay, cool, but can someone explain to me why the fuck almost all characters don't have their walk animated properly? They just kinda waddle around in weird motions.
>>285186685Personally I mostly detected them during the conversation between my hombre Cervantes and Orlando. Not much, but it was enough to be noticeable.
>>285185361Iori > Shirou > Sigma > Kiritsugu > Sieg > Ayaka > Erice > Hakuno > Ritsuka
>>285186500This is Fate™Just wait until discount Fai start crying about how inaccurate and bad adaptation is because he can't follow visual medium without 5mb of text on the screen.Add some sakugabaits, FGO baits and we're gold.
>>285185409Hey Jetkek did you see Artoria's (Grand Saber btw) brand new A+++ Noble Phantasm? She even has Avalon, practically infinite Mana and was called the strongest by Goetia!
>>285186620
>>285186751Imo Hakuno is too low. Extra 1 has them struggle with being a blank slate and trying to survive well enough. CCC gives them a more quirky personality. That's enough to be above fucking Sieg. Erice is also too low but her story barely getting off the ground hurts her a lot. Personality-wise, she ranks pretty highly as an awkward teen.Shirou > Iori > Kerry > Hakuno > Erice > Sigma > Aayaka > Ritsuka
If there was a Snowfield Holy Grail Grand Prix, what would each team ride?>Kiddie Ride for Ayaka and Saber>The Kuruokas just push Tsubaki's hospital bed into the racetrack
>>285186762>FGObaits*cough*
>>285186493>>285186619https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lMArVYkqZ8>High Impact Sexual Anal Violence
>>285185482This should have been Saber Lancalots design instead of the crap we got
>>285186811Sigma should be around the same level as Hakuno, then
>>285186820Cool refs desu. FGO ghosts are spooky.
wait so have the F/Z and Fuyuki grail wars happened in F/SF or nah?
>>285186870Yes.
>>285186762A reason I was hoping to avoid the latter is that FSF is very surface-level plot. It's easy to consume so with good direction and animation, it should be fine even for any casual who just watched the fate zero/SN animeYet here we are and there's still autists trying to war over the lore and which story was better.
>>285186883the same way? cause Rin and Shirou are supposed to show up here too
>>285186853He is. those 3 are close together. >>285186870They did. But I dont think Gilgamesh ever lost in this timeline
>>285186885>it's already dogshit so there's nothing to ruin
>>285186907Mostly the same way. I think 5th was different, don't really remember. Anyway as usual it's probably mostly UBW + some HF elements.
>>285186923Imagine posting in dogshit threads, talking about dogshit and watching dogshit. It's not healthy.
>>285186919I seeSpeaking of Sigma and Erice, I've started crackshipping Tsubaki and Voyager just out of imagining those two clashing over it
>>285186620Please be patient anon. Tsukihimefags rarely get to talk about their favourite VN to newfags so they get overexcited when they get the opportunity to do so.
>>285187012We have threads on /v/ tho.
Call me if Red Garden doesn't use Arach to dindufy Kohaku
>>285186885It is surface level but it has enough obscure and/or weird references to get autists and lorefags going.>Himuten timeline>Triten>DAAs exist>Prototype>all that Case Files shit>the fact that F/SF Ishtar is the OG Ishtar>same with Enkidu
>>285187050That's not a good thing.
Am I one of the few rare people who liked male MC with EMIYA in EXTRA?
>>285186686It's kinda like holding a problem child isn't it?
To be honest, the only time I thought Narita went too far with the connections was John's mom being in the plane Kiritsugu blew up
>>285187056
>>285187091More like an ayylien.
>>285187050Arcunny...
>>285187093THAT's the point you thought he went too far? It jumped shark before and it as nothing compared to Rider's "master".
>>285187093There are a few others that just annoy me and hopefully the anime will cut them out
>>285187091>>285187106
>>285187081They're fine. Rance threads are good too.
>>285187147They are about to get bad
>>285187056You know Nasu will butcher her route just out of spite, since it was better received than Sakura's which he considers his magnum opus.
>>285187050loli arc is fucking adorable.
>>285187142El-Melloi and his students( the characters we actually care about)
>>285187178
>>285187195PFFFFFFFFHF was his opus?That plot hole ridden piece of shit that adds a gaping one to all the other routes?
Waver's class appearing is probably the worst development ive ever seen in a fate work.
>>285187094I kinda want to write a story about Kohaku becoming a Master (out of despair of her being removed in Redline). I feel like the best route for that would be Arc or Ciel’s since her plotline isn’t touched. I think Akiha’s route would turn out different because she got Shiki temporarily killed.
>>285187223The Rance onesCause they are gonna be in Steam
>>285187235I'm being nice to him by ignoring the fact that Extra exists. Which IS his dream project.
Kohaku twist was powerful, bros. She really got me the whole time. Did any OG readers see her drugging you the whole game coming?
>>285187056Let's be real, Red Garden is probably going to end with giant Akiha fighting giant Arach for the fate of the world or some shit
how can ishtar be a femcel with all the dick she took?
>>285186367how the fuck can i both be a fan of kiritsugu and kirei even though they are polar opposites?
>>285187235BB and the Sakura Five only exists because Nasu was pissed Sakura was nowhere near as popular as Rin or Saber
>>285187274There’s one bad ending where she acts very suspicious, but to be honest, I went into the story knowing something bad was up with Kohaku, just not what.
>>285187281Just like how married man with a wife and children get called incels.
>>285187289it's so petty lmaowhen nasu wants you to like his waifu, he REALLY wants you to like them, and will force them down your throat until you do
>>285187266that's even worse>>285187289it's almost like she fucking sucksks and Sakura is worst girl. Shirou is a massive fucking simp trying to save a used whore who tries to kill him despite loving him because she's an idiot. Their relationship is entirely one-sided and based on lust rather than mutual understanding. Sakura never sacrifices anything once for Shirou. She literally mutilated him into a near death state because him risking his life pissed her off. Nothing about it is Angra Mainyu's fault as it can only be other people, as evident by Avenger in Hollow Ataraxia who is a nice guy albeit crude guy because he's Shirou. Even using that as an example is a mistake because Sakura isn't nearly as possessed as Shirou was. The shadow kills you if you have low affection points with Sakura. In the end, wormslut is a filthy toxic whore who victimizes others while playing victim the entire time.
>>285187328He did all that crap and none of it worked then HF movies came a long and did what Nasu couldn't in 20 years
>>285187289Ultimately nasu won because the controls the lore. saberkeks and rhinofags on suicide watch.
>>285187260Nah. /v/ is the main sharty's zone of operation and Rance is japanese rapege. If your threads are good in such environment nothing can ruin them. Rape unites /v/ after all.
>>285187376Ah yesone schizo or two acting like her only issue is the mile of worms and cock she's been ran through with
Alcides is an even worse jobber than Berserker Herakles.
>>285187376>HF moviesrumao
You will not ruin FSF with Routefagging
How is Jester a dead apostle? I thought Alaya was too strong in fate for them to exist.
>>285187427what's there to ruinit's already trash
I want Olga inside my throat.
fucking kino episode and kino animationdo we have a tohno shiki in this timeline? or even ryougi? I want someone with the death eyes now
>>285187427*FSF Threads
>>285187385>saberkeks and rhinofags on suicide watch.Saber is still the face of Type Moon and the characters everyone recognises. Nasu can cope all he wants but when people think of his works they think of Saber first and foremost.
>>285187427Just wait till Rin is shown. And it's revealed that she was the one who styled Hippo's hair after Saber
>>285187433Ancestors can't exist in Fate timelines, DAs can exist just fine, Zepia is a DA in EMCF, but not the Night of WallachiaBesides, Narita wrote DAAs in before Nasu revealed that
>>285187427Last thread felt more like a Tsukihime one then a FSF one
I guess the episode really was good if people are yapiing about the VN again
>>285187427what's there to ruinit's already certificated kino
>>285187433only people who didn't listen to what nasu said think this. dead apostles and true ancestors still exist in fate. they're referenced last in 2023it is the DAAs as an organization that don't exist anymore.
>>285187433DAs exist, but their strength is limited. They never form the 27 DAAs
>>285187475NARITAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>285186620>TM fanbase>Niggers among them???
>>285187495This is like the fourth thread since the EP dropped.
Yep I think I'll just keep avoiding these threads.
Anyone following the Case Files manga have an approximation of how much longer it’ll go on before it would go into Adventures?
>>285187457Ryougi exists in Fate timelines.Since Fake is supposed to be at the border, maybe it has both Tohno and Ryougi.
>>285187579disgusting
>>285187573Last time I've checked they were on Book 6 at around 50 chapters? 4 books left, so uhhhhhh 35 chapters? Though they get slightly longer if my memory serves, so maybe more like 45-55 chapters?
>>285187571coward
>>285185225I'm still mad about them making Koha-Ace parody characters into real Servants and also the garbage annual events in FGO (somehow the worst part of an already terrible game) so I'll probably never read this.Didn't even have the decency of including Kohaku because THAT apparently would be too far (actually would just filter FGOfags)
>>285187489Where did the DAs come from if the Ancestors never existed?
>>285187618chairbros, what's our response??
Speaking of tourist niggers, have you been to to JJK threads?
>>285187651Previous thread. Maybe even the previous, previous one.
>>285187651Uh, hello? Crimson Moon still exists. And just fundamentally reaching a different state in existence contrary to humanity turns you into a dead apostle.
>>285187651I think True Ancestors still exist, and then there are magus who end up becoming DAs in their own way
>>285187630sure if you want
>>285187651The Ancestors themselves exist, just not as an organizationAnd Zel isn't one cause CM didn't bite him
Fuck off.
>>285187664No I haven't bothered going there since JJK ended. Agenda posting is poisen when it's take seriously.
>>285187691Alice and Aoko are both bad people and I felt bad for Sono throughout the entire VN. He should have just let Touko kill them instead of saving his abusers.
>>285187691witch pussy
>>285187433Dead Apostles can exist in the Fate worlds. In fact, there are multiple Dead Apostles, such as Van Fem. But Dead Apostle ANCESTORS don't. It's implied that the Principles and Idea Bloods that give DAAs their superiority don't exist in Fate. Because the rank of Ancestor doesn't exist in Fate, a vampire who might have been an Ancestor in Tsukihime would instead be two ranks lower in Fate. Rank 1: Corpse (zombie)Rank 2: Ghoul (super zombie)Rank 3: Undead (proto-vampire)Rank 4: Nightkin (vampire)Rank 5: Nightmare (super vampire)Rank 6: Dead Apostle (lol)Rank 7: Dead Apostle (Superior)*Rank 8: Successor*Rank 9: AncestorRank 9 only exists in Tsukihime. In the Fate worlds, vampires have a powerlevel cap that makes it impossible for them to go beyond rank 7, while in the Tsukihime worlds, no such cap exists. Because Rank 9 Ancestors don't exist, Rank 8 Successors also don't exist (since there's nothing for them to succeed). So any vampire who made it to Rank 9 in Tsukihime would be capped to Rank 7 in Fate. Vlov would be Rank 6, as he inherited his Idea Blood before gaining enough levels (hence why it's constantly threatening to overwhelm him).
Does Jester get to fuck the Hassan?
>>285187723I've said it once and I'll say it againAlice and Aoko both deserve to get raped
>>285187433Ignore all the other replies. The correct response here is: "Strange Fake is an exception to that. Servants and Ancestors coexist here."
>>285187724Delicious>>285187533I wasn't being facetious. Since TM nerds are talking about their shit, that means they can't find many things to nitpick about the episode
>>285187664>twitter filename I don't care
>>285187749close but no cigarthe reality is narita started writing this before nasu finally made the distinction between tsukihime and fate's existences
>>285187727What ranked is Arc and her sister?
>>285187769>they can't find many things to nitpick about the episodeOutside of some Anons arguing about the animation and/or artstyle. Yeah, it seems to have been received pretty good.I guess there were some minor complaints about them skipping some of Zealot's characterization by not using her PoV.
So now we wait a year for the next episode again?
>>285187794Arc none cause she isn't a DA
>>285187794DAA but only out of techinicalitythey are far worse and greater than simple dead apostlesthey are crimson moon's bastard lovechildren he made with gaia
>>285187794Arcueid isn't a Dead Apostle so she wouldn't have a rank. Altrouge is an Ancestor.
>>285187794True Ancestor
>>285187433Vampires exist, but they're weaker than in worlds where Gaia is more dominant. DA Ancestors specifically don't exist in Fate world.
>>285186245I get it, all I can recommend is other classic Nasu works (Tsukihime, Mahoyo, kara no Kyoukai movies) if you haven't read them. I wish there were many other VNs like them but there aren't, that's why they feel so unique.F/SF isn't so much copying F/Z as much as it is Narita's own style and him being a huge Type-Moon nerd using everything he can think of (including lots of non-Fate stuff which is awesome). The huge ensemble cast and shifting PoV's is his usual MO.It does suck ass that Nasu seems completely uninterested in what made him good in the first place.
>>285187791>close but no cigarNo. End of line. Nasu said "uh Strange Fake is fine though". Explicit exception. We're in the Pariah timeline.
>>285187877nasu can just change his mind so that doesn't count either
>>285187809It helps that FSF is such a melting pot of Type Moon that practically everyone comes here to discuss their favourite suff.
Remember that time Arc was in a VtM VM?
>>285187727Thank you Nasu. This is the good kind of autism.
I didn't even know Arcueid HAD a sister. Isn't she supposed to be super special and one of a kind?
>>285187794Arc isn't a Dead Apostle, she's a full True Ancestor, her sister is half DA and half TA, and she's also part of the DA Ancestors, so she's a Rank 9.
Fate/strange fake is a separate worldline outside of Tsukihime and standard Fate where Alaya and Gaia are still struggling for dominance but can't get one over the other. It's an extremely unstable world where anything can happen and is constantly on the verge of total collapse. According to Zelretch, it's actually possible for ORT to wake up prematurely and destroy everything in this world.
>>285186762>FaiNow that's a name I haven't heard in 10 years.
>>285187791Yep, which is why Narita reconciled this by working together with Mashiro and making FSF take place in the Himuten timeline.People give Narita shit but the fact of the matter is he cares about the lore and worldbuilding more than Nasu does.
Don't think too hard about it.
>>285187894It's slop
Nasu taking Primate Murder out of the DAA list annoys me
>>285187877Nasu doesn't get the final word since it's Narita's setting, not Nasu's. And he explicitly worked together with Mashiro of Himuten for this reason.
>>285187926This is obscure and potentially retconned Nasulore>>285187952In the absolute worst way imaginable.Narita is just Japanese Dave Filoni
>>285187926Her sister is the one who cut her hair and weakened herAlso Primate Murder's owner
>>285187927>so she's a Rank 9.Is this based on power or something else?
>>285187932>According to Zelretch, it's actually possible for ORT to wake up prematurely and destroy everything in this worldZelretch didn't say that. Only that it would result in a bad outcome for the Association
>>285185002>Dick her down and she doesn’t ruin your life later Why didn’t Gil dick Ishtar down? You can tell she’s one of those chicks that would’ve been fixed up with a good fucking. She’s craving for his golden cock after all.
>>285187749But he didn’t say ancestors, he said Dead Apostles. Not all DAs are DAAs
>>285188033She literally killed her lover right after
>>285187975Probably wasn't given an Idea Blood. Since Cath Palug's already a Beast in the Fate worlds, it would already have its own Principle separate from that of an Idea Blood. Basically, it doesn't need an Idea Blood to have an Idea Blood-class power. Without an Idea Blood, you're not an Ancestor.
>>285187898Remember VMtB2?
>>285187975In the first place, his DAA title was only honoraryMakes sense to take him off the list if DAA is more than just a title
>>285187749DA are part of PHH.
>>285187926If I'm not mistaken they're not directly related, they're considered sisters because they're both vessels for Type Moon.
>>285188004Power + having an Idea Blood.Read the remake it's good.
I like talking about Tsukihime stuff, but I actually haven’t read TsukiRe yet, so I’m missing out on a fair amount of concepts (or so it seems)
>>285188090i still think it's retardedvlov and noel are greatbut that's still retarded
>>285188090
>>285188090DA Noel route in Red Garden
>>285187975>>285188068Funniest thing is he stated the Ancestors who's abilities are not up to par with his new standards will have to leave and if you check both the old and new DAA list you'd realize the only DAA Nasu removed was Primate Murder.Most like Primate Murder is now a Successor class DA (rank VIII) since it was mentioned some Ancestors become infatuated with non-human entities and elevate them to rank VIII on the spot.
>>285188068>>285188086It annoys me cause it makes it feel like FGO takes priority despite being made for Tsukihime background
>>285188086Yeah, for the original set of DAAs, the only rules were apparently:>Bloodsucker>Threat to humanity>Really strongBut now, you NEED to have an Idea Blood to be an Ancestor. If ORT hadn't absorbed some retarded Ancestor's Idea Blood, then it wouldn't be an Ancestor.
>>285188033>one of those chicks that would’ve been fixed up with a good fuckingFirstly, there aren't actually chicks like that. Once crazy, always crazy.Secondly, Ishtar is the opposite. You give her one inch, she'll take everything you have.
>>285188139Now you get why FGO pisses everyone not interested in retarded gachaslop off.kind of at the very least>>285188128I fucking wish. Noel deserved Ciel's route more than that bitch did.
>>285188136Well it might not be considered a Dead Apostle at all. Originally, the only reason Primate Murder was designated as a DAA was because it drank blood. So maybe it doesn't drink blood anymore.
>>285188139It’s not like there’s much else for them to do. VNs have gone out of style, Red Garden will probably be the last one Nasu does, and Ufotable is finishing KnY before Mahoyo
Noel should get fucked by Mario
>>285187898If VtM writers are still ashamed to readd kuei-jin, it could be fun if they take inspiration from Nasu instead of lazy cainite flavors.
>>285188217mario can't even get his dick hard
>>285188139It might actually be the Dark Six's fault. I think Nasu wanted to bring the Dark Six further into the spotlight and make it the top dog of the Apostles, but he can't do that if Primate Murder's counted among their ranks. ORT's stronger, but it's in a coma so who cares about it. So in order for the Dark Six to be the top dog, Primate Murder had to be kicked out.
>>285188139I mean FGO sion is still a vampire
>>285188086As if ORT was really different. They're just imitating
>>285188239And when was the last time you saw MB Sion?
>>285188229>Nasu who made his universe not run on powerscaling autism fell into the trap of powerscaling autism
>>285188258When Under Night 2 released. So last year.
>>285188193Yeah, originally, but perhaps Altrouge made him into a genuine DA now which matches the description of Successor DAs. Really up in the air.
>>285188090Where can I read it? I only have my phone and PC
>>285188262He's been powerscaling since Extra bro
>>285188278The power of emulation. Just find a fork of ryujinx or something.
>>285188269Okay, my badWhen was the last time you saw MB Sion outside Under Night?
>>285188209It's a pity they have. Even if I got into them really late, they are a way better format than all the serialized stuff that is still popular. I don't hate serials of course, but when you compare even a simple moege to some romcom manga it's a completely different level of payoff. Serials just trick people into reading a lot but have way worse pacing as a cost. Sitting down for 30 hours and controlling your own pace for a work that is already complete shouldn't be so unpopular but it is what it is I suppose.
>>285188173>Now you get why FGO pisses everyone not interested in retarded gachaslop off.This is outdated way of thinking. Or should I say The Way of Hate.The reality is that even if FGO didn't exist we would not get anything Tsukihime or Mahoyo or DDD related. Anons just keep clinging to "FGO did this" idea. But it's not true. Nasu wants to write something fancy, SF with magic, Types, parallel worlds, epic concepts, Elden Raang, Lostbelt 6. You can't force him to cook Tsukihime unless he's in the mood to cook Tsukihime. It's over. Let him cook Red Garden while he's writing Hollow Ataraxia/CCC for FGO.
>>285188302>Archer, Tamamo, and Nero can beat Arcueid, Cu/Lu Bu, Gawain, and the fucking Buddhauh?
>>285188313>>285188209Have VN's really gone out of style?I mean Dispatch is literally just thatAs are the Ace Attorney "games"
>>285188303He is supposed to buy it and fund Red Garden
>>285188306Fuck you.
>>285188313Yeah I’ve enjoyed my time reading VNs, I think just how things changed, gacha games simultaneously became the successors of both them and light novels, so the existence of FGO isn’t surprising at all honestly
>>285188090>read the shitmake that isn't even finished
>>285188328>I mean Dispatch is literally just thatIt's a glorified tell-tale game
>>285188332It would be more effective to write letters to Nasu with ideas how to remove rape from Kohaku's route without removing rape.
>>285188229Nasu stated he removed all the DAAs that are only relatively amazing and not up to par with his standards, with Primate Murder being the only one removed>ORT's stronger, but it's in a coma so who cares about itORT is stated to come to life in Tsuki worlds, which is stated to be a point of difference between Tsuki and Fate.
>>285188328Well they’ve been declining in sales for a really long time, Tsukihime remake did good all things considered though
>>285188139>it makes it feel like FGO takes priorityBecause it does? FGO has been Type-Moons main work for a decade now and has incorporated every other aspect of the company in it.
>>285188323This reminds me of the cope everyone used for Star Wars.>Let them ruin the franchise with the ST and the shitty spin-offs>This is only way we're going to have good material again
>>285188004Yes and no, Ranks 1-7 are different stages of development for a vampire, consequentially you do become stronger the higher rank you get. Rank 9 is for those that become Dead Apostle Ancestors. Unlike in the original Tsukihime, the DAA aren't just a kool kids club for vampires, they're specifically a group of DAs that have obtained an Idea Blood, which is basically a special reality warping vampire power that is kinda like a DAA version of a Noble Phantasm. Rank 8 is basically just a Rank 7 Vampire that is a candidate for inheriting an Ideal Blood from a DAA, they're probably on average much stronger than the usual Rank 7 since they're typically older and part of a Rank 9's inner circle, but developmentally speaking, they're just Rank 7. TL;DR, they're not directly ranking based on power, but consequentially they do sort the power rankings.
>>285188340>>285188306Wait, actually, wasn't she in the Adventures? Does that count as MB Sion?
>>285185612why are old men such sluts?
>>285188323I hate FGO because all I care about is F/SN, Zero, and El Melloi and I don't give a flying fuck that some famous historical figure was a 8 year old girl in a shitty phone game.
>>285188332Then Nasu should release it on Steam like he did FSN, Mahou and FHA.
>>285188387Anon, Nasu has wanted to write sci-fi shit FOREVER, FGO is just the excuse that's stuck around.
>>285188387I don’t think Star Wars is a very good comparison
Didn't Nasu say FGO was eating up his time?
>>285188455Someone needs to tell him he fucking sucks at it.
>>285188389>they're specifically a group of DAs that have obtained an Idea BloodSo like do they hold meetings like like a villan organisation where everyone comes together talks about the evil stuff they have done?
>>285187975DESU out of all the autisms Nasu did in the remake, this one specifically makes sense. Primate Murder was never even a vampire to begin with, he was just considered one because started mimicking Altrouge's vampirism. Also specifically in the remake, DAA aren't just an arbitrary group, there's an objective criteria for become one which is inheriting/taking an Idea Blood, this also explains why Ort is still in the list since he would've absorbed the previous Number 5 DAA 's vampirism but also his/her Idea Blood, so he qualifies regardless of not being a vampire still.
1. Primate Murder -> The Dark Six2. Brunestud -> The Dark Six3. Zelretch -> Brunestud4. Millennium -> Zelretch>5. ORT (unchanged)>6. Rizo-Waal Strout (unchanged)>7. Einnashe (unchanged)>8. Fina-blood Svelten (unchanged)>9. Altrouge (unchanged)>10. Nrvnqsr Chaos (unchanged)>11. Stanrobe Calhin (unchanged)12. ??? -> Lululily A. Paranodahlia >13. Night of Walachia (unchanged)>14. Van-Fem (unchanged)>15. Rita Rozay-en (unchanged)>16. Gransurg Blackmore (unchanged)>17. Trhvmn Ortenrosse (unchanged)>18. Enhance (unchanged)19. ??? -> Vlov Arkhangel >20. Merem Solomon (unchanged)>21. Sumire (unchanged)22. ??? -> Chromclay Petastructure (dead)23. ??? -> Zuckham Eri>24. El Nahat (Unchanged)25. ??? -> Be'ze (dead)26. ??? -> Agape>27. Caubac Alcatraz (unchanged)Dropped DAAs are Primate Murder and Millennium. Primate Murder appears to still be around in the remake world, but is just not counted as one of the twenty-seven. The only Ancestor that has been explicitly erased is Millennium, but we never had any details about them to begin with. Most of the changes are actually for unnamed Ancestors. 12, 19, 22, 23, 25 and 26 originally weren't given names. Whether or not they existed to begin with is up in the air. Vlov likely wasn't the original #19, and was instead newly created for the remake.
>>285188323people who think FGO is the reason Nasu isn't writing more of the other stuff are just idiots. The real reason is he's just fucking lazy.
>>285188389>they're not directly ranking based on power, but It's directly stated the ranks themselves are measures of the depth of the DA's curse, that's it.So a rank VIII curse > rank VII
>>285188385Unfortunately, to everyone's loss.
>>285188524Nasu didn't even write most of FGO
>>285188491There's two gangs among them who do so (Ortenrosse's old-fashioned Elder Vampires and Altrouge's new-fangled princess posse), but not all of them participate in either. Plenty are individuals eking it out on their own, and at least one is an alien who wouldn't understand even if you invited it.
>>285188323Why i'm not suprised someone saying this like you, is at the same time a Francesca poster?
>>285188509Millenium is from the Remake list, not the old one. You got it mixed up there.
>>285188323LB6 would be better as anything but gachaslop.Even more Extrashit would be bettter, despite how much Extella sucked.I genuinely can't think of a worse alternative to FGO. Getting nothing for the last 10 years would've been preferable.
>>285188509>The Dark Six is first and second Who is this guy?
>>285188610The First and Oldest Dead Apostle. Further details are unknown.
>>285188543He wrote Camalot, Babylonia, Solomon, Sereph, LB6, LB7, OC3 and the final as far as I remember.
>>285188610It's unknown but seems to be related toThe Sixth LawThe Sixth Magic (potential)The Six SistersThe Six FairiesCommon theory it's CM using the same ritual that forged Excalibur or summons the six sisters but twisted to completely overturn the world or some shit
>muh fate plotDUDEAYYLIENS GODS SPACESHIPS LMAO!!! SUCH PLOTTAGE!!! And dont forget to pull some heroic spirits in FGO, KEK!!!!
Well, that was a mess.But cunny game is so strong I have to keep watching.
Is there lore to why there is so many HGW in Japan outside of it being Japanese?
>>285188491Not entirely, a few of the DAAs work completely independent (Number 27 and Ort), but there are two major factions / alliances of DAAs, and they're for the most time hostile to each other. One of them is lead by Number 17 and is composed by the more older Ancestors, and their main objective is to conduct a ritual to revive Number 2/1 the Dark Six. The other one is headed by number 9 Altrouge and her bodyguards.
>>285188684We literally have a goddess possessed by aliens in this story already, bet you missed her
>>285188656That’s not even half of it
>>285188720They need a strong leyline for it, and Japan is considered backwater by mage standards.
>>285188684It's popular because it's so autistic and retarded.
why is this thread just tsukihime autism
>>285188710too brown for me, didnt even gen porn of her
>>285188632>>285188675Seems pretty interesting but I'll wait until either Red Garden comes out or Tsukihime is on Steam before getting into it.
>>285188755dead apostles bruh
>>285188720Clock Tower considers Japan a shithole and barely monitors it.
They should remake LB6 into a full fledged JRPG. Take some liberties with the story and change them to better fit the structure. The only real issue is that the "permanent members" just keep dying left and right throughout the game. Even Castria would become unusable for some fights because she dies launching her Excalibur missiles and only gets resummoned for the final fight against Vortigern.Maybe have a semi-gacha mechanic similar to that one Xenoblade game to help fill out the ranks more. Like at the beginning of the game, the protagonist can't really do their temporary summons too well due to some issue, but over time the issue gets resolved and they can summon from a limited pool of Servants. That should help make up for how the main cast keeps fucking dying.
>>285188769arcueid's pussy goes haywire and she becomes a giant ready to wipe out the human race because shiki didnt give her the dick (im not kidding)
>>285188755Vampires are just that popular. Servants are old news.
>>285188778>>285188746Is this Japanese self hating?
>>285188755Because people keep fucking asking about the best girl
>>285188755We had a DA in this episode so why wouldn't people talk about it?
>>285188598Nasu clearly wants gameplay in his stories but his scope fit more to books, LN and VNs so he can't realistically make game fulfilling all this without AAA tier budget. So he stuck with small Fate Extra games. And development for real games is pain in the assNot really surprising Nasu choose gacha. Hell gacha would be fine if it wasn't shackled by genre. Being a phone gacha game. If it was something like console, PC Rance X style GAAS rpg where you buy new chapters as DLCs. With more writing freedom, more visual CG kino, with real gameplay.
>>285188814That was already in Monogatari Nasu...
>>285185541>Until the rules started breaking and you could shove just about anything into a servant container.That started with a random farmer being summoned as Assassin.
>>285188826>Japan is a backwater>Has, like, three of the six magics>Wielder of the MEoDP born every milleniaNasu is a hack
>>285188755Better than Extra autism last two threads.Someone post the furfag Richard for the epic bait or something.
>>285188826Britainwank is hard coded into the series I’m afraid
>>285188610Very little is known, but it's implied that they're the Six Sisters that appear in Notes, and the ritual that is used to revive them, the Aylesbury Valesti, is potentially what caused the world in Notes to get fucked up, and potentially what causes the mana in the Earth of Fate/Extra to run out. Also there is some very loose potential connections between the six fairies in F/GO's Lostbelt 6 and the Dark Six, but without any clarification it's unclear.
>>285188826Le plain underdog is actually the strongest evar!
>>285188868>it's impliedthere is no such implication anywhere, that's a long reach guess at best
>>285188880pretty muchfucking hack
>>285188524https://www.frontlinejp.net/2021/08/30/tsukihime-remake-release-interview-with-nasu-and-takeuchi/The hack himself confessed, thank you for your headcanon about what he does.
Is it true that no one has died yet in the LN and it's just a bunch of nothingburger and sigmawank?
>>285188755DA aura farming
>>285188903Gil...
>>285188903Dynamic duo died. Gilkek died but got better.
>>285187274I went into Tsuki coming from Melty, so... yeah.
Does nobody have actual EPUBs of the novel translations? I have PDFs up to volume 8 but PDFs scale really badly and conversion is a crapshoot.
>>285188903Multiple people have dropped out but not nearly enough and some were just replaced
>>285188903So far the only 3 people who've died are Flat, Spooky Hassan, and Ishtar. Jack may or may not be dead too because he hasn't been seen for four volumes but never got a formal death scene so he may have a vestige to say goodbye with at some point.
>>285188798Yeah but NEVER EVERLook even Fate EXTRA stuck in development hell
>>285188911PLEASE CRUNCHYROLL JUST FUCKING WRITE "BLOODBAGS" IT'S NOT THAT HARD
want to eat tine's ass
It kinda feels like there should be more consequences to DAAs and Heroic Spirits existing together. Like there should be more instability among both ranks. For instance, maybe Grand Servants can't be summoned in Fate/strange fake, while on the DAA side, shit keeps going wrong.
>>285188951Maybe someone posted them on BL?
>>285188798LB6’s one flaw is being part of FGO.
>>285188974for me? it's tino
>>285188863To be fair, the Mage Association seems stuck up and unreasonable.
>>285186522I liked the "fill your mind with garbage" approach in Kotor 2.
>>285188967>Tfw they don't even call Noble Phantasms "Noble Phantasm"
>>285188863>>285188865>>285188880>>285188898Is there is any media with HGW outside of Japan because i only recall Apocrypha, F/SF and the whole Extra CCC stuff but i don't think those count as "true" HGWs
>>285189006NasuIsAHack
She's just the best.
>>285188996If Grand Servants couldn't be summoned, the Einzberns could never have made their Heavens Feel ritual in recreation of the Heroic Spirit Summoning Ritual.
>>285188998I checked and could only find PDFs like it's still 2006.
>>285188974Same. Her white dress is sexo. I bet She wear garterbelt too. All for Gil
>>285189011>delusional heartbeat isn't even called delusional heartbeatAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>285188974I want to eat Francesca's
>>285188863>Has, like, three of the six magicsI can only think of Aoko who are thr other two?
>>285189009Imagine the WALL like in the movie.
>>285188868There is no implication, just TMfags being pattern-cucks so they link the holy sword ritual to the blackmore artoria shit to harwey to overcount 1999 to notes to six sisters to dark six to 6 fairies to crimson moon to aylesbury to program 6 to sixth ritual are all relatedI don't think the chain is going unbroken there
>>285189035the world shift only happens in 300ad so that woudnt be affected
>>285189019There is now also Fate:Lost Einherjar which takes place in Oslo, Norway.
>>285189061Alice's grandmother or whoever the fuck that had the first.Aoko has the fourth.The HGW is the third
>>285188128I hope Noel bitches about not getting a route after Sacchin's route.
>>285189074Fuck you mean it wouldn't be affected, the Einzberns only started seeking the Holy Grail around 1000 AD.
I hope she gets more good moments.
Alcides waiting roomIt'll be good to see Gil get humiliated again
Can he win a Say Hi?
>>285189052Same, imagine the mana flowing out of her
>>285189082I am so goddamn fucking sick of grail wars
>>285188951Google on tumblr. All pdfs were in tumblr post
>>285188393Isn't Case Files Sion closer to FGO Sion? No Wallachia fucking her life over means she's basically a different person.
>>285188033>gardener boy>fisherman>horse>lionall of these tried the "dick her down" method and suffered for it
>>285189070Pattern-fagging pays off until you're playing FGO in which case it depends on Nasu's mood.Animusphere noticers won bigly. Everyone else lost.
>>285189092grand servants happened earlier than 300 ad so would be recordedin tsuki worlds the hgw never happenedbut if in the strange fake world anon's hypothesis of both systems being kind of fucked happend, then grand servants being barred wouldn't affect the formation of the hgw
>>285189082>Fate:Lost EinherjarIt mustn't've been big or i somehow didn't hear about it
>>285188033A FUCKING LION??
>>285189082At this point you could've also mentioned Labyrinth.
>>285189162It's only got one novel so far plus it's Sakurai, wasn't very popular.>>285189174Not a formal grail war, really.
Shame that a lot of things especially lores in fate are made up by shitposters and liars somehow being treated as truths. People need to watch the sources than reading or learning it from on here and other places
>>285189162It's new, bad and possibly already abandoned.
>>285189094she does literally nothing for the rest of the story, sorry
>>285189203>watch the sourcesPerfect bait. Almost made me mad.Tsukihime anime watchalong when?
>>285189118Hopefully the next brand new Type Moon project (lmao) is something new entirely. Maybe a story where Altrouge is the main character/heroine or whatever. Just as long as it isn't a HGW, remake or story surrounding a character we already know I'll be fine with it.
>>285189203retard nothing is fucking nothing here it's like all of it christ read the damn vn
>>285189201>SakuraiThat explains more than any words can convey
>>285189128>>285189165Even the barbs failed...
Love this trans icon. Dead Apostles are so fucking cool.
Considering how much Narita loves referencing other Fate shit, I'm surprised he hasn't brought up Fate/EXTRA. Dude went as far as to have Ishtar grab Gugalanna from a goddamn SINGULARITY. Also I just want to point out that all of Fate/Grand Order was a Lostbelt. So it wasn't just a Singularity, it was a SINGULARITY WITHIN A LOSTBELT IN A COMPLETELY SEPARATE WORLDLINE. And you're fucking telling me Ishtar somehow managed to access that.
>>285189122Yeah, I know, that's where I got the PDFs from. But like I said, PDFs suck for actually reading on devices of varying screen size, and don't convert well to EPUB when they have headers and page numbers all over the place.
>>285189262Is his CS actually in his belly or was it just a representation? Unusual.
Dark Six is Vampire Order. Once it's up it's OVER. The timeline will not be pruned. Anti-Humanity aids will spread across the universe. Nasu hire me to write FGO part 4
>>285189243Not a bait? watch or read or etc. I’m being real that tons of people buy into lies and headcanons too much online then something they don’t want happen or cause others to cling to false hopes
>>285189201>>285189258I take who or whatever that is mustn't be good
>>285189125Funnily Zepia stated Sion would have lived longer in FGO if they were on worse terms. This proves showing interest in humanity is unhealthy for vampires
I really want more T-M shit without servants and grail wars...
>>285189292>FGO part 3 (its currently in 2.5) will be about Chaldea going around fucking up DAAKino
>>285188897I don't really buy the connection with F/GO, but I definitely believe that the Dark Six are the Six Sisters in Notes, everything checks out if you assume it's true.
>>285189292>>285189340Maybe we would finally get Altrouge.
>>285189162Shirow Miwa did some designs for Ragnar and Aslaug and then got an LN by SakuraiOnly one volume so farSet in the Apo timeline in 2014A HGW where everyone has two ServantsMC is a former Yggdmillennia who was close to Caules and Goredolf
>>285189304Imagine someone who can't write trying to ape Nasu, being heavily pushed by Nasu, but still failing to actually do anything even approaching a passable quality judging her for her own merits.She was so goddamn bad they had to stop saying who was writing the FGO chapters.Nasu pawned one of his horrible ideas off to her of some kid being god (the root) and it's been jackshit ever since
>>285189292Dark Six is The Six Sisters from Notes, trust. That's why they were fighting the Ether Liners/humans. And once only one of them is left, Crimson Moon reincarnates in them.
>>285189343>everything checks out if you assume it's true.kek. Must be one of my favorite aspects of theory-crafting.
>>285189314Is Waver really gay?
>>285189304Hikaru Sakurai is the writer of some of F/GO's most hated chapters as well as Fate/Prototype: Fragments of Sky Silver. She mainly wrote for the What A Beautiful series before becoming a main writer for Type-Moon. If you're a VN fan you may have heard of Sekien no Inganock a long time ago.
>>285188755Jester driving the police and Hassan (female) insane is just fun. But I feel like we'll be having burial agency talk next week.
>>285189340FGO continuing to be the place where Nasu finally gets to put all the lore he's come up with and never had an excuse to use yet would be fitting.Especially given how jealously he guards it.
>>285189314I'm probably gonna hop on Case Files honestly if this adaptation keeps stoking my lore autism. I read the first volume years ago.Sanda may be boring but at least he cares about the cool parts of the setting and isn't stuck in gacha hell.Also the translator seems consistent and even posts the epubs himself.
>>285189377>didn't fuck Reines>didn't fuck Gray>ignores Yvette >"Fuck I miss MY KING so much"You tell me.
Type Mars is LIZ LOVE
>>285189377Very
>>285189343My brother. >>285189376It just makes sense. Aylesbury Ritual dried up Earth in Fate/EXTRA, Earth is also dried up in Notes. Coincidence? That doesn't stop a true NOTICER
>>285189389>the writer of some of F/GO's most hated chaptersThat don't clear things up
>>285189340>>285189363Would be truly the worst outcome imaginable.Fuck FGO.
>>285189409Oh god, this dogshitI remember seeing the wannabe Caliburn image on Beast's Lair.What a fucking disgrace.
>>285189412M-maybe he prefers big tits.
>>285189453Urobutcher confirmed Waver took it up the ass years ago, anon.
>>285189441Wouldn't have been the Aylesbury Ritual. Without DAAs, that ritual is impossible.
>>285189441>Aylesbury Ritual dried up Earth in Fate/EXTRAThere was no Aylesbury Ritual, it was done by the Harways and the ritual explicitly failed so it wasn't the real intent.
>>285189409Just skip the Adventures. Anyway the translation gets kinda dogshit after Volume 5 iirc since the translator changes. Unless there's some new source with a better one.
>>285189376What I meant is if you assume the Dark Sisters are the Dark Six, the connections do make sense and don't have any holes or contradictions. But it's completely unconfirmed at the end of the day, for all I know the Dark Sisters are actually Artoria clones from the Servant Universe at this point.
>>285189453Look up Sensha Otoko>i-it's April FoolsStrange Fake also was "just April Fools"
>characters ramble on explaining the obvious leaving nothing unsaid>literal minutes of incessant babbling with nearly nothing of note said>supposed historical or mythological figures have the personality of 14 year old sperglords>characters speaking in what I assume is supposed to be more "sophisticated" language but it falls flat and just comes across as what someone who has never read literature assumes literature to sound likeFate really is cursed isn't it?
>>285189445While I do agree I see no other way for Nasu to actually do something with all that background lore he has built up for Tsukihime. In what form of media could he even cover all that?
>>285189499Didn't mean to throw any real shade at you. I just find it funny and, frankly, enjoyable how many theories hinge on "PLEASE ASSUME THIS VERY FAR REACHING ASPECT IS COMPLETELY TRUE"
>>285189495It's specifically a ritual that occurred decades early in a "certain city in england">Q: What is the reason of the Mana depletion in the world of Extra?>Gonna leak you some info. It is the "what if scenario" caused by a "certain ritual" that occurred in the 1970's. This ritual is not expected to happen until the year 20XX. While it could be new something nasu introduces at some point the intent from back then is obvious
>>285189555Nasu should've never invited other writers to make shit for him.
>Muh Sakurai
>>285189499>for all I know the Dark Sisters are actually Artoria clonesThen I would roll for them when they appear in FGO
>>285189453No, he has no excuses
>>285189563I'll take anything besides FGO at this point. At least make a gacha that doesn't look like an early 2000s flash game.Also, if you're dealing with huge Tsukihime lore don't put it in Fate ffs. It's bad enough that he wasted his DDD sequel ideas on that slop.
>>285189495Well, it prob failed because there were no DAA since it's a Fate world. But I imagine the intent is the same, drain all of the mana to revive Dark Six. In Fate worlds -> Fate/Extra timeline, in Tsukihime worlds -> Notes timeline ending with the resurrection of Type Moon.
>>285189555Yeah. This is why I watch smart anime like The Darwin Incident instead.Boosts my IQ a lot.
>>285189593>>285189495Forgot the second quote>Mana Depletion [Circumstances]>Overcount 1999. In 1970, a ritual performed in a certain local city in England in 1970 set off the depletion of the Earth's magic energy filling its atmosphere.
>>285189602yes
>>285189593Yes, but we've had more light on the situation since. Last Encore made it clear it was the Harweys doing some shit.
>>285189641Oh fuck don't mention that piece of shit. I get a whiplash each time I see it.
>>285189657Nasu changed his mind
>>285185002>dead apostleWhat fate lore/entry do I need to read/watch to know more about these guys?Also how do these Hassan assassins work? They want to kill each other?
>>285189555I have to admit I do find it highly enjoyable when the writer goes on a complete schizo spiral and goes into beyond autistic detailing about the worldbuilding.
>>285189682>Oh fuck don't mention that piece of shit.What high IQ anime do you watch this season? Sopranos?
>>285189690info dumps are the worst way to go about it
>>285189555>>supposed historical or mythological figures have the personality of 14 year old sperglordsHow should they act to be acceptable to you?
>>285189689In short they're powerful assassins with the head assassins having magical powers with Nameless getting her NP from being given it by another
>>285189718Anon... I beg you... I'm dying inside each time I see this... This is a worse monkey man than fucking Desmond in early ACs... My soul is leaving my body... Please...
>>285189593Funnily enough Logress profile also mentioned a Holy Sword related ritual. Coincidence? >Though she is Artoria Pendragon, her nature belongs not to humanity, but to the elementals.>The convergence of the conclusions of the ritual of the holy sword that occurred across countless parallel worlds.>While her nature is similar to the Human Order Supplement Device A.A., the base girl (Caster) does not exist here. When Lord Logres appears, A.A. completes her duty and ceases to function.[2]Considering Leo is meant to be a new King Arthur I would say this links more to this ritual than the Dark Six.
>>285189657This makes me curious if Satsuki’s Depletion Garden could go out of control and start draining the planet. Especially since if it shows up, it won’t be an RM anymore (most likely), so it could more likely start ‘leaking’
>>285189608Pretty sure the recent Halloween event revolved around a Servantverse version of Liz becoming the Martian Archetype and also Type Mars, so really, at this point it's a real possibility.
Also, EXTRA is weird because there shouldn't be a Crimson Moon/Dead Apostles in the first place, since the Moon Cell replaces him in his function as a counterpart for Gaia, right? In any case, WRITE CRIMSON MOON COMING BACK AND STYLING ON HUMANITY WITH HIS KNIGHT ARM and my life is yours Nasu. I've wanted to know what his Real of the World and Rainbow Magic Eyes do for over a decade now. Reeeeeee.
>want to see Dullahan's epic bants about stupid Fateslop>Faggot Brazillian mod put a quote of his as his signature>have to sift through his retarded slopeating to get to Dullahan's bantsugh
>>285189763Maybe you just hate yourself...
>>285189629Type Moon's goal wasn't to drain the planet's mana. It was to become the Earth's brain.
>>285189819kill yourself
>>285189829Chat what is this? I don't understand.
>>285187794Arc is a True Ancestor.True Ancestors are weaker than Dead Apostle Ancestors, since DAAs rebelled and won against the True Ancestors that made them as bloodbags. However, Arcueid is a unique existence that's above regular True Ancestors as their princess and the closest vessel to the Crimson Moon, so at her full potential she is stronger.Still, with their Idea of Blood it's quite trickier, since the Idea of Blood runs against the principles of the planet, of which Arcueid benefits.
>>285189819Nasu has kind of flip flopped because Arc was supposed to be 100% fan service but then he made specific lore of gatou going to find her in the himilyas where the castle is manifestedas far as we're aware, the moon cell itself is supposed to be a brainless type moon and presumably the moon civilization never manifestedmy headcanon is that the moon cell was somehow destroyed in other worlds and the moon people were like reflections of the race that made the moon cell or some shitwould be nice to get a materials book to clarify some of this shit
>>285189689Tsukihime. Remake.>HassansYou become the big Hassan if you invent a new Zabaniya and if you are good enough. Zealot never managed to invent a Zabaniya of her own so she never became a real Hassan.
>>285189689>What fate lore/entry do I need to read/watch to know more about these guys?Tsukihime. Specifically the remake because the OG has been retconed>Also how do these Hassan assassins work? They want to kill each other?The Hassan were a irl group of fanatic Muslims from where we get the word Assassin. In Fate the head of the Hassan's each had a special technique they developed to assassinated their targets (in Zero and HF you can see two in action). FSF assassin was part of that organisation and wanted to become it's head so she went but was rejected due to being to retarded.
>>285189555>>characters ramble on explaining the obvious leaving nothing unsaidNothing wrong with that.>>literal minutes of incessant babbling with nearly nothing of note saidNever happens, characters are very clearly conveying something of note in every scene.>>supposed historical or mythological figures have the personality of 14 year old sperglordsOnly one is Richard, a historical sperglord.>>characters speaking in what I assume is supposed to be more "sophisticated" language but it falls flat and just comes across as what someone who has never read literature assumes literature to sound likeHollow sophistry.Shit post, 2/10.
>>285189881Legendary Gazebo Autist who can ramble write about stupid shit on an artistic level from Beast's Lair
>>285189838Never using this shit board ever again. Fuck you. You broke me.
>>285189847>It was to become the Earth's brain.No. He wanted citizenship. His VISA expired.
>>285189019The lore reason is that the Tohsaka offered their land for the HGW back when it started and the Einzbern and Matou went along with it.
Since when were you under the impression the Hassans went from 1-18?
>>285187727Random tangent but Arc's literal blackboard lectures on Tsuki vampires gave me flashbacks of the Muv-Luv Alternative classroom infodumps.
>>285189429Reines, my beloved sadocunny
>>285189995Can't believe Nasu cucked Narita like that. All that just for a fucking MMO raid boss First Hassan. Not even a Grand Assassin btw.
>>285189995KUBO!
>>285189945>Legendary Gazebo AutistIt's been over ten years.Ten. Fucking. Years.I still remember the vivid description of the Gazebo's internal structure being dismantled.
How do the retarded Ghouls that we saw in Zero become vampires? Drink enough blood? Could Kerry have had chicken girl after all?
>>285189884Arcueid can also counter DA's Principles with her own power. She did this against Vlov when she wasn't weakenedShe can do the same against Reality Marbles post Remake
>>285190018what? there's no way spooky was ever meant to be king hassanand it works a lot better that there's a hassan 1.5 to fill king hassan's gap
>>285190018
>>285189995I can't believe Nasu pulled that shit twice in the FGO final>Lostbelt 0>Sixth Magic
>>285189930Well that, but she was also not really a great Hassan. We see that she kind of makes for a lousy Assassin because she keeps trying to fight like a warrior. Even though she has almost every Zabaniya, it's important to remember that Zabaniyas are all assassination techniques. You're not supposed to use them to go all "Ey yo 1v1 me bro, man-to-man dawg".She's kind of a dumbass. Hundred Personas might be kinda mediocre, but they're way better assassins than No-Name is.
>>285189995Being fair to Narita, Nasu making the First Hassan not have a Zabaniya breaks the ENTIRE FUCKING REASON for naming their noble phantasms Zabaniya.There are nineteen Zabaniyya. That is the mythology. That is the reason they are called that. Maalik and the Nineteen Zabaniyya are part of islamic mythology.Accordingly, even if First Hassan had a different Noble Phantasm, it REALLY should've been named Maalik, not Azrael. And a twentieth Hassan was vital to complete the Zabaniyya.
>>285190018Being the first doesn't necessarily make you number 1. You could be number 0.
>>285190098TITE KUBOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>285189285EXTRA is hard to reference because they run on an entirely different system since magecraft is dead over there. Also it takes place in the future inside of a computer. What could you even use?
>>285189983He wanted to create a new kingdom on Earth, which is only possible by becoming the brain.And he does in fact become the planet's brain in TsukiR so his goal is halfway underway
>>285190018>Not even a Grand AssassinKH Lily literally just showed up as Grand Assassin
I am not Kohappy about this...
>>285190112Well I mean seeing as how this is a world with both DAAs and Servants, you may as well go full retard and say "Actually, the Mooncell exists here too."
>>285190071Nasu really made sure to scrap any weakness she had huh?
>>285190110Kubo? Anon this is Kids Next Door territory.
>>285189819We'll never get anything about Type Moon, The Dark Six or anything potentially related to any of these because Nasu wants to leave all that to Tsukhime 2 except he kept leaving Tsuki 2 in the backburner for other projects ad infinitum until the decided to remake Tsuki 1, so he postponed Tsuki 2 until after he concludes the remake but then kept delaying the remake presumably because he was focused on the video games like Extra and FGO and now he decided to split the remake into two parts and still seems more occupied with FGO and other projects so we might not even get Red Gard until 2030 at this point, let alone Tsukihime 2. At this point I just have accepted Nasu will leave a huge chunk of the lore unfilled forever because he can use that for clap bait in gacha games while development in Tsukihime works at negative pacing
>>285190073Oh fuck me, don't tell me that I confused the FGO/FSF clusterfucks again. It was with Enkidu, wasn't it?
>Nasu: Ah, actually. the 27 DAA haven’t become the 27 DAA in Fate.>Writers: …!!!???(everyone is shocked and has no idea what he is saying)>Nasu: The 27 only become the 27 in worlds that have Tsukihime as their core. On the flip side, there’s no familiars known as servants in Tsukihime worlds, right?>Sanda: But Complete Materials!?>Nasu: That was burned by the incineration of human history. Oh right, don’t worry about Narita-san’s Strange Fake. It’s a special case set between both types.>Narita: A-Ah, Yes. T-Thank you very much…!?>Nasu: But Sanda should stick to this with case files. It’s a long story, but in Tsukihime remake…>Sanda: Wait! Wait! Kinoko wait! I’ll make a questionnaire that we can then turn into a digest that we can all use, so just wait!>Nasu: Eh, that’s such a bother. Anyway, this Pizza sure is delicious.>Higashide: Hohoho, my series is already finished so good luck.>Sakurai: (While listening carefully) It doesn’t appear like this will have an effect on my work for now.>(Sanda): That was the most shocking day of my life.
>>285190145This sucks because serious Kohaku master plot could actually be really good.
>>285190139>Azrael is KH LilyI hate this timeline.
>>285190190epic troll
>Nasu can't stop KUBOing
>>285190125Why is Gaia even allowing this? Are they retarded?
>>285190167some things that made narita change the plot areDantes in FGO made him switch things a little but Dantes appeared laterQin appearing in FGO made him switch to the crossbow fish guyIshtar appearing in FGO made him give ishtar the bigger midboss role instead of dying earlerthink there's other stuff too
>>285190153Unironically her biggest weakness is teenage cock. You can't even kill her because after going through all her defensive countermeasures and layered immortality, if she still has enough energy she'll turn into a walking Star and stomp you.
>>285190202Shiki is also very likely a descended of his
>>285189847All part of the masterplan. Wait until Gaia is dead, let the Aristoteles clean up humanity and then take over Earth when every competitor is dead. >>285189870No. Type Moon is the coolest thing in Type Moon, I'll stan him until I die (of old age, after reading Tsukihime 3).
>>285190153Yeah, the most blatant was the previous weakness against opponents with multiple weapons or hidden weapons. Which is fair because it was kinda arbritrary.Luminary form makes her virtually invincible now, which Hakuno also aknowledges in OC3.
>>285190166Truly the Japanese GRRM.
>>285190202>used the same sword>used the same blue flames>same instakill gimmick>literally the name of KH's NPIt was obvious dunno why some retards were in denial
>>285190218What makes you think a mere counter force can countermand an Ultimate One?
>>285190052I think they just naturally evolve if they manage to survive long enough.
>>285190018Nasu is like that in general, if he has lore that he wants to tell you don't get to tell any of it till he does.
>>285190260What. I didn't know about this. What is this theory?>>285190294I know that, I just never liked it.
>>285190218CM is Gaia in Tsuki.
>>285190218gaia needed something to become the ultimate one so she had unprotected sex with cm and he became an std she can't purge unless some jotaro guy kills dio cm.
>>285189088>The HGW is the thirdEinzberns don't live in Japan, and they barely even have the Third properly.>Alice's grandmotherThat would be Yumina, two thousand years ago, who was a witch, which is in fact a type of fairy. She can bodily possess her human descendants, one of which (Alice) happens to live in Japan, but she also has a strong presence in Britain, which is probably where she is from, anyway.
>>285190295Because the Ultimate Ones are a bunch of jobbers who die to fucking humans? A fucking autist from the MA shits all over them and the entire observable universe
>>285190265>Wait until Gaia is dead, let the Aristoteles clean up humanity and then take over Earth when every competitor is dead.You realize that would serve no purpose since Crimson Moon would be rulling over a completely dead Earth with no one around right? That's never been the end goal.
>>285190294I thought it was like that because KH has Azrael's powers.
>>285190368Not how it works, anon.Also don't act like a projection of the root itself which is also Beast VII is some kind of small time deal.
>>285190359>Einzberns don't live in Japan, and they barely even have the Third properly.the holy grail is in japantherefore the third isand that's just retarded
>>285190190>>285190212The biggest troll is that FGO has reverted to PHH timeline (ie basically the only difference that matters between PHH and FSN/CF timeline is Marisbury being dead) meaning that everything is canon again.
My hero
>>285190218According to KT, Humans were too scary for Gaia and she knew they will destroy her the moment they appeared. Moon, the mirror offered her help to rule and balance all this mess. Well it was scam. Type-Moon was a parasites. All TA were cursed. Now CM need a body to be legitimate citizen of Earth free from Counter Force wrath.
>>285190413>FGO is mainstream canon
>>285189363>AltrougeAh, I remember when some people started speculating that she would be FGO's anniversary servant (or New Years servant?)It was such a trollish idea, but I liked it so much that I went with it anyway
>>285190396>which is also Beast VII I'm still not convinced.>no love for humanity >no horns>no Advent Beast intro>profile is a joke
>>285190396>Beast VIIDoes he know?>>285190413I refuse to acknowledge anything about the state of PHH and Lostbelt 0 until Part 3 properly drops and Nasu makes a blogpost explaining this clusterfuck.
>>285190446Shiki needs to dick her harder until she's a complete cumslut for humanity.
>>285190475>>285190481If you don't think we've got the full lowdown on Maris Chaldeas yet that's all the more reason not to talk down on its capabilities.
>>285190481>Part 3holy fucking cope
>>285190446>>285190356>>285190337>Earth is a dumb slut who got tricked by a playboyI see
>tsukihime fans right now
>>285190525Surely something will come out of the Best Hunting filler and the unexplained shit about Part 2 will get explained.
>>285190484Tsukihime Arc IS Crimson Moon. Humanity already lost in Tsukihime.
>>285190525We're literally in EoR 2.0 right now, it's gonna happen if FGO is still making so much money in a year.
>>285190368And yet, funnily enough Crimson Moon reviving and erasing humanity from existence in the year 3000 is to this day still treated as the only absolute, unavoidable event.Which is why Zepia went insane in Tsuki, precisely because he could never find a favorable future no matter what he did. Meanwhile Zepia was completely chill in FGO and both he and Sion knew humanity had a good future. Crimson Moon revived to this day is treated as the only absolute calamity that humanity has no hope of combating. Which is also a theme of Tsukihime in general, in that you need to come to terms with death being an inevitability, it will come, there is no stopping it. Which is why the ones opposing this view like Zepia are treated as the villains of the story.
>>285190569Yeah, like that Netflix show that zoomers couldn't accept had a shit season.
>>285190569Yeah it will end up with Chaldea landing in Tsukihime and fucking over the CM >>285190570 because HFY
>>285190547He won his HGWMeanwhile, the Pandavas have won zero
>>285190449The version of FGO that is in PHH is considered mainstream canon but the version of FGO where most of FGO takes place is actually Lostbelt 0 meaning that it isn't canon.FGO PHH - Only notable difference from FSN/CF canon is Marisbury being dead.FGO Lostbelt 0-Instead of being dead Marisbury wins the Fuyuki Grail War and sets up Chaldea.Instead of committing suicide in 2015 which fucks up Goetia's plan like in every other timeline Lev doesn't kill himself, meaning that he is overtaken by Flauros and sets out to incinerate human history.PHH encompasses every Fate work, eg FSF, FSN, CF, Apoc, etc
>>285190570That's why I said he needs to dick her harder
>>285190605There is a mountain of evidence pointing to Nasu being a fucking hack which I would continue to believe in if the nigger didn't release fucking EoR 2.0. Now I believe he's a hack with a plan.
Is there any master in Fsf war who can beat Daybit?
>>285190547
>>285190608>>285190643Just let me have cool vampires bro, humanity is stinky we don't need it
>>285190597>And yet, funnily enough Crimson Moon reviving and erasing humanity from existence in the year 3000 is to this day still treated as the only absolute, unavoidable event.Only because Nasu barely does anything with Tsukihime. The moment the CM becomes the main antagonist they are doomed to lose one way or another then have all thier actions retconed as doomed from the beginning afterwards. Just look at what he did to Goetia.
>>285190657>Daybit>remembers a bit of the dayKINOOOOOOOOOOOKOGod, I hate this shit so much.
>>285190657Daybit's aliens are above servant level, so you need a team to beat him.
>>285190657Nope.He'd crack a joke about bit of the day and they'd instantly surrender to his swag.
>>285188902he's lying and being lazy, he "wrote" 4 stories and then a CCC wank in that time period
>>285190667kek>>285190683GETIN CRIMSON MOON'S PUSSY, SHIKI
>>285190642>Instead of committing suicide in 2015 which fucks up Goetia's plan like in every other timeline Lev doesn't kill himselfHow can Goetia's plan exist if Marisbury didn't win the HGW, create Chaldeas and set up the singularities as traps for the crypters only for Goetia to actually bomb them?
>>285189314>Fucking FGO>New works are mostly just grail war spinoffs with some twist>Mahoyo dead>Tsukihime's lore got retconned to hell to keep up with all the powerscaling bullshit on the Fate side>Case Files was a refreshing departure in scale and setting, but the character work is weak and then Adventure goes full retard anywayAt this point I should just accept that I've had my fill of Type Moon and stop stubbornly hoping it changes to accommodate my preferences. Better to move on ocne I've finished this anime.
>>285190525The database for the game considers the after time prologue thing to be a different story arc than part 2/OC due to its numbering, so it’s something like that
>>285190690You're still thinking with Fate logic of humanity overcoming all. That's not how Tsukihime has ever worked.
>>285190733>How can Goetia's plan exist if Marisbury didn't win the HGW?Goetia's plan was set in motion 3000 years ago.
>>285190735yeahsameit's like star warsit's over already
>>285190733Nasu didn't think this through. Just like he didn't think through releasing TsukiRe on Switch and now he's wrestling with Kohaku's route.
>>285190723I'm pretty sure he wrote all of Elizabeth's events, the Garden of Sinners event, all the Saber Wars, half the Summer events, the Altera the Sun(ta) event...
>>285189555>supposed historical or mythological figures have the personality of 14 year old sperglordsanon I hate to tell you this...but alot of the greatest people in history really acted like this.
>>285190762Which just coincidentally happened to overlap precisely with the exact Singularities that Moneybills was going to use as bait to lure the Crypters to?
>>285190368>JobbersDon't know man, every time they were defeated it took something really absurdly overpowered to beat them>Type Pluto was killed by the Six Sisters, which if you believe they're the Dark Six, are the strongest/second strongest Dead Apostle Ancestors, above Type Moon and Type Oort in the rankings>Type Moon was defeated by a wielder of True Magic>Type Jupiter and Type Saturn were destroyed by an Enuma Elish-like weapon that has anti-alien bullshit properties>Type Venus was defeated by the gun that can kill basically anything in the Nasuverse, and it didn't even destroy it fully>A weaker Type Oort was defeated by an unkillable Beast of Humanity and then later an even weaker version of that required the use of Azrael, The MEODP, The entire remaining Deinos race, U-Olga, Ritsuka summoning every servant he can, Excalibur and Kukulkan, which was Ort's own core, to finally defeat it for good.
>>285190823Yeah.
>>285190733Goechan plans it in every timeline and lev sudokus in every timeline and presumably goe chan just gives up because he seems to be really swayed by it or some shit because mages with crests aren't supposed to be able to sudoku
>>285190752I wouldn't mind Tsukihime's theme but I'll believe it when I see it otherwise he'll be no different then Goetia before the time temple or Gilgamesh at the end of SN/UBW to me.
This only vaguely makes sense and I don't really expect it to (probably some "please consoom the source material" kind of production) but it's animated splendidly and with style. That segment with the priest is overdone, sure, I don't think it looks bad, but I can see how you could say it's pretentious and trying too hard. Will probably watch this entirely, however badly the rest of it is. [background: played only the first route of stay night]
Of fucking course the mental ill /tmg/fags screeching 24/7 about FGO are making up things in their heads again.
>>285190733The plan exists but it is thwarted by Lev suicide - he has 3 personalities and 1 of them commits ego death so the other two kill each other. Goetia's plan is setting up 72 mage lines to awaken as demon pillars to sabotage human history and magi are setup to be unable to suicide to facilitate thisI think the melty blood gag manga fgo crossover shows one potential version of how this suicide actually happens.
>>285190733The plan would probably have been slightly different in timelines where there weren't singularities right there for him to use, but he still would have made a plan.
Speaking of Goetia does he exist in Tsukihime? What about Gil? Did he still see humanity reaching for the stars even though they all are doomed?
Question for the loreheads, do Tsukihime timelines get pruned by their own form of ??? Order like Fate worlds get pruned by Alaya? How does that work? I thought the whole reason timelines get pruned in the first place is that the planet can't sustain an infinitude of them. So why can the Planet hold both Tsukihime and Fate timelines at all? Or are they separated beyond the usual timeline stuff? Like, could non-DDA Zeltretch even go to a Tsukihime timeline? There's already a vampire Zeltretch there. I don't get it.
>>285190955tsuhmime is the same world as fate, diverigging i n300 ad
>>285190958nopetsukihime is the it's so over timelineshiki['s anemic ass can never give the dicking arcueid needs to not exterminate humanity
>>285188556Which group Zeltretch belong to?
>>285190843>an Enuma Elish-like weaponIt's not like Enuma Elish. And Enuma Elish explicitly does nothing to entities with Star attribute.
The only reason Lev didn't sudoku in FGO was because he found out about Marsberry'd plan and decided "Fuck, that's even worse". So he decided that Incineration of Humanity was the lesser of two evils.
>>285190958Each Universe is in reality a Multiverse with divergent timelines, they're like their own trees with branches, the pruning happens because each tree can't handle too many branches at once, but the greater forest is its own system.
>>285189555They hated him because he told the truth. Fate is chuuni dogshit propped up by a mobage
>>285190762>>285190852>>285190883>>285190916But Singularities only exist at all because of Moneybills destabilizing history with the Fuyuki war, before he fucked everything up there was never any such thing. How did Goetia collapse human history by destroying singularities if singularities can't happen?
>>285191091Sorry but I will not be outgrowing chuuni shit
>>285191002It's actually the Mash demi servant experimentation that tipped him over the edge. This is why Goetia keeps trying to seek validation from Mash that incinerating human history is the right thing to do, because one of his constituent pillars (Lev) can't get over it.
>>285190823It's almost like those seven singularities were targeted for a reason. Those are the most critical foundations of human history, anon. Blowing them up was critical to Marisbury's plan, same as Goetia's. It's basically blasting the struts of the human order so the whole building falls down at the same time.
I like Ivan the Terrible!
>>285191102because he created themmarisbury created 7 fake singularities to blow up the human foundation with the cryptersgoetia just happened to make 7 real onesit's not that they couldn't happen, just that they didn't because full singularities forming is a massive event
>>285191102Nasu dug himself into a hole by stating this
>>285190570>Tsukihime Arc IS Crimson MoonFUCK OFF CM
>>285191102*by destroying it with singularities
>>285190445This is what the gacha looks like? Jesus its like Adventure Quest with more cluttered UI.
Bros I missed these threads. Just sheer unadulterated autism trying to decode Nasu's chuuni bullshit. We are so back.
>>285191138And I like you!*smooch*
>>285191152He did that ages ago by stating that anyone who dies in a singularity stays dead even after it gets resolved.
>>285191102Well, you could argue that he doesn't. Goetia never detonates the time bomb outside of F/GO. Flauros says "fuck it, it's a gay plan anyway". Maybe it wouldn't work, or maybe Flauros checking out is because it can't work, who knows.
>>285191170WEAK, SHIKIWEEEEEEEEAKYOU'VE GOTTA THRUST IT, BOY
>>285190997Star attribute are for humans that made great discoveries/feats that paved the way for human development, like Da Vinci and Tesla. And both Enuma Elish and Slash Emperor have that "attacks with the truth of the planet" shit that I frankly don't even know how to describe.
>>285191215he later changed it so that lion king and tiamat didn't affect it
>>285191179nasuverse always brings back the feeling of older /a/
>>285191215Actually, it was when he said that the throne is outside of time way back in 2004, even though Solomon removing himself from the throne would never work unless the throne followed linear time.
>>285189291You can see it in ep 0, it's literally there.
>>285191316Solomon removed himself from the throne outside of time whilst he himself was outside of time in Ars Paulina.
>>285191243Both Arc and Tiamat are star atrributed precisely because of their connection with the planet.Same for Ryougi.Same for Foreigners.Basically Enuma Elish is only strong against humans and beings to whom the truth of the world is alien.
>>285191396This isn't a lore issue, it's a logic issue. If the throne doesn't follow linear time, you can't remove something from it - either it was never there or it will always be there.
>>285191316Yeh, I believe Illya it's Ithe Throne is specifically stated to exist in a higher dimension
So did Solomon using Ars Nova within the FGO Lostbelt have any effect outside it?I'm inclined to think not, FGO always followed its own rules when it came to summoning.
>>285191423ORT Xibalba has Star attribute too despite having no real connection to the planet. Unless they gained it by simulating their own version of the Planet/the Throne of Heroes?
>>285187926Arc and her sister are clones of the crimson moon
>>285191456>it's a logic issueHe. Was also. Outside of time.He's accordingly both always there and never there. But depending on the occurrences WITHIN linear time, you can touch it or you can't, despite both existing simultaneously.Basically, Ars Nova always happens. But when he does it, it collapses your local timeline's superposition into Solomonable or Solomonai.
>>285187926There were ALWAYS many True Ancestors. Arc is just the strongest of them.
>>285190997>>285191243>>285191423retards, there is no such thing as "weak to enuma elish". that is just gameplay from the trait system. good grief
>>285191624she also killed the rest
>>285191561I mean his batlle phases are literally all the eras LB7 went through so I'd guess he has some connection to the planet by that point.
>>285188033Nigga you know who Gil predecessor was ? Of course Gil would not want to deal that bitch
>>285191561They have connections to their planets of course. The point is every single character that doesn't have the "weak to Enuma Elish" trait is some kind of being that transcends the truth of the world.
>>285191726Are you telling me /myking/ can't tame one crazy bitch? x to doubt
>>285187926Failed vessel for CM made by CM himself.
Reminder that mountain man are the best for witches
>>285191763He couldn't even tame Seibah. Fucking Medea came closer to it.
>>285191642Which is also a lore thing. You realize Da Vinci and other characters have explained attributes themselves as part of the plot in FGO right?
>>285191774
>>285191774isn't it sad, altchin?>>285191810legendary
>>285191774>Fou was once stronger then the CMKek
>>285191867we lived in much simpler times
>>285191867He might just be referring to the anti-humanity factor.
>>285191867The DAA ranks themselves were never a Espada Power Ranking. Especially when the ranks remained unmoving after a DA inherited a rank.You didn't see ORT moving a rank after it took the previous Ancestors' position.
>>285191816>Which is also a lore thing.Star is loreWeak to EE is not, you jabronis. Do you guys actually think EE actually does more damage to certain kinds of people? When the hell has it ever been described that way?
>>285191926they specifically werebut hilariously, only up to 10from 10 and onwards, they were a threat to humanity ranking.it's the exact opposite of the espada at that point
>>285191929>this gameplay thing is lore but this other thing is notI mean do you think someone who could survive in the era of the hellish landscape of the Earth is going to take extra damage by basically being in their homeplace?A human definitely would though.
I have Ciel in FGO and everything that Hansa said is true
>>285191967>they specifically wereI assure you there was never such a statement anywhere. The only thing is an implication about Ortenrosse ranking lower due to being mostly about "simple is best".
>>285191996Yep. I'm certain Nasu asked the developers personally to make Ciel extremely strong against bosses>Caren >Executor Ciel? Why is she here? That human juggernaut? Surely she would never show up in Chaldea... is what I used to think, but with Ciel anything is possible, I suppose. She may not look it, but she is someone who has nonchalantly defeated a handful of last bosses already. I'm sure that she would display tremendous soloing potential, and then go all 'oops, did I do it again?' here as well. Hopefully I have not jinxed us, God willing.
>>285190547I was more of a Fate fan than a Tsukihime fan until FGO happenedIt's all so fucking shit now
>>285191867In terms of killing humans, he still is.Primate Murder would mulch Zelretch beneath his claws.
>>285190547I love everything.
>>285192083>Ciel confirms Caren was a part of the Burial Agency
>>285192217Me too, but unlike you fags, I also like stuff like Koha-Ace and Mahou Tsukai no Hako.
>>285192339Kiara is one too
>>285192388>Koha-Ace>Mahou Tsukai no HakoBased king.
>>285192403in tsuki-re, surebut she doesn't even go by the same name
>>285190723He wrote a shitload of those terrible events. Yes he would rather do that than write a real VN. Bad image.
One True Demon is possible exist in TsukiR world. That's why it's so shit.
>>285192388At this point you'd probably slurp Nasu's turd from a plate too.
>>285192489What's the issue? I don't get it.
>>285192403I love that whore nun. Keep wanking her Nasu.
>>285192521Liking FGO which is not far off from what I said anyway.
>>285192525>tfw Caren and Kiara are both sex priestesses>Kiara would get turned on just because while Kiara's presence would turn Caren on because of her demon reactivity
>>285190527Playgirl*
>>285192544From my point of view Jedi are evil.
Arcued's fat cock
>>285192489>Man who enjoys his silly type-moon manga should be executed according to retard on 4chan
>>285192598Koha Ace is fine. FGOniggers deserve genocide just as they have for the last 10 years.
>>285192598Fucking TM radicals!
>>285192560I wonder how Caren is in Tsukihime worlds. I hope she's not too different...
>>285192635
>>285190955He does but he can't do shit in outside of fate timeline
OWARI DA
MADA DA
are the Tsuki priests and fate priests the same?
>>285190997Unless you missed the obvious hints EA is terraforming tool
Red Garden and Mahoyo 2 next yearTotal FGO death next year too
>>285192752Ciel likes curry way more than Kotomine likes mapo tofu
It's over...
I really like Kohaku as the starter : )
Arc is the best TM girl
>>285191456
>>285192472You mean the demon lord?
>>285192083>She may not look it, but she is someone who has nonchalantly defeated a handful of last bosses alreadyI HATE GACHA WRITING! I HATE GACHA WRITING!
>tsukihimekeks right now
>>285192907Many are saying this
>>285192963>gacha writingTsukiR is what casually dropped that Ciel has already killed a bunch of DAs and taken their idea blood
>>285193023BAKA ONNA
>>285193030No, I meant that I hate the "handful of last bosses" phrasing. It's terrible. Why would Karen speak like that?
>>285193030I think he meant more the stupidity of saying "last bosses" in regular dialogue.
>>285192998>Tepeu MEODPs ORT>it only kills one break barIt was kino at the time but overshadowed slightly when gameplaywise a japanese farmer with an MLB scope can do the same thing
I've read FSN, watched F/Z, Apoc, El Melloi, KnK, and I still have no idea what you guys are talking about for 80% of the thread. Is it because I dont play FGO and havent touched Extra or Tsukihime?
>>285193067because FGO Caren is a gag character and FGO Ciel is a space executor from the gag space universe.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4buEGxpy7kM
>>285193083A lot of it is Tsukihime, its remake, an Notes yes.Some of it is FGOslop.
>>285193067>>285193070That's a japanese thing. RASUBOSU is just a word in their tongue.
>>285193083There's a lot of Tsukihime (especially Remake) and FGO lore here
>>285193108It's still a nerdy gamer term which Caren wouldn't say.
>>285193058YAHOOO!
>>285193130Caren in FGO is actually from Capsule Servant and not FHA, I'm not making this up
>>285193058What a lovely nickname!
>>285193156Yeah I know that's not any less retarded but it's what you'd expect from GO
WHY CAN'T YOU DIE?
>>285192762Sure. But in practice it's meant to reveal the world underneath the textures. With the exception of the Inner Sea/Avalon. Can't touch that one.
FGO sure is full of theses "i'm that character you recognize but also not really"
>>285193102>>285193122Well I guess I need to read the remake soon then
>>285193199Yep. That's how fanservice works.
>>285193199It's literally just that nonstop, every single crossover, every time they wanna reuse someone's design.I genuinely don't know how anyone still takes it seriously when those types of characters are also often used in MAIN CHAPTERSEven fucking LB6 which everyone praises has Caren but not-Caren, and Medb but not-Medb, and Kazuradrop, andFuck FGO
