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Vampires 'n shit
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>>285193266
Would eat out Prelati's male and female assholes.
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>>285193291
I want them both to pee on me after their incestuous fuckfest and then I can clean them up.
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>>285193222
The way fanservice really works is "I'm that character you recognize, no strings attached"
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6RbR8rb8PU
She actually uses the Japanese word for rape near the end.
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>>285193373
The way he breaks down as he calls her Noel-sensei gets me every time.

That's what you get for loving worst girl, Shiki.
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>>285193266
>female (male)
>female
>male (female)
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>>285193428
Prelati is an it that can be male and female
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>>285193373
My bad
It's actually right here
https://youtu.be/z6RbR8rb8PU&t=480
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>>285193373
>outshines heroine in her own route
What an outstanding girl
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>>285193373
>One of the few instances where a remake adds a new character that is actually interesting
>Crimson Chapel is arguably the best theme in Lumina
>Mystic Eyes of Roses are pretty broken
Noel keeps winning in everything except getting laid
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>>285193494
That and this are the best endings to that route
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_ev6Zpfo48
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It's been a while since I've watched a show because of a boy. I hope since he's a saber he doesn't die and gets plenty of screentime.
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>>285193494
It's tradition for Ciel.
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>>285193494
Nuns can't compete with vampussy
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>>285193540
He's one of the highlights of this story, you're in safe hands.
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Saucy Jack..
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Richard is hot.
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>>285193266
I thought I'd hate him but he's very cool
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>>285193616
Oh I thought this was Van-Fem for some reason.
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I hate this arrogant bitch
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I love her eyes
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>>285193667
You don't.
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>>285193689
I do, I despise characters like her
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I think the last time I watched anything related with fate was lord el-melloi, god this is some fun stuff nasu could never
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>>285193373
>>285193421
>>285193494
>>285193506
https://youtu.be/xouJDVx2XiU&t=1740
She fucks him every 100 deaths.
also, every one of her lines is some kind of innuendo when not hyping herself up
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>can't have any discussion about the franchise's lore in a fate thread without a schizoid monkey whining about extra and fgo for no reason and derailing everything
Sad
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I like her
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>>285193737
But anon, that is the nulore
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I'm converting to Islam?
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>>285193737
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>>285193751
Wednesday a cutie.
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>>285193729
>Waste of coffee desu.png.jpg
"pls don't tell shishou"
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I thought she was older, she looks in her teens
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>>285193751
She's simply perfect.
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Feet
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Pretty hand
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>>285193838
So you're saying she looks
immature
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Do we get examples of Sercants with a riding skill driving a modern vehicle in this series?
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>>285193851
Where is pantsuschizo?
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>>285193723
Stop lying, you love evil women.
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>>285193903
>I don't want to be in a Japanese adult video
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>>285193494
>creates character to take on Ciel's flaws
>the flaws were the best part
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>>285193911
I might like some but I hate this one
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>>285193933
That honestly feels like a giant insult to Noel. She's her own bag of deranged crazy, trauma, and female idiosyncracies. It all blends together to make an adorably lovable psychotic mess.
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>>285193942
Why'd you take so many screenshots of such a hateable character huh

>>285193931
Lucky her she'll be in an American one instead.
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>>285193785
She only likes sigmas bro.
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>>285193942
Try finding something to dislike about her. You won't.
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FSF is fun but it has a lot of bullshit moments

>Jack reveals his NP; he can become a demon, the anti humanity, something naturally above all humans since they represent human fear
>Not only that but combined with his other NP, he can become hundreds of demons at once, all of them massively above humans
>The more humans in the area the stronger the NP since he feeds on all the fears of humans in the area, and the city is full of humans
>Against the fully human Alcidies it should be the perfect counter, who no longer has his divinity or the lion cloak to protect him. His humanity is his greatest weakness since the demons all feed on it
>Demons all converge on Alcidies start ripping him apart
>Few seconds later "Sorry, zero damage"
>What
>"Not in my contract brother, that doesn't work on me, I'm just made of sterner stuff so all your abilities just magically don't work on me even if by every metric they are perfect against me, I'm just far too above it to matter, zero damage"
>What

>Then he pulls the same shit later against the cops even though by every metric it should be a perfect attack that should work
>"Sorry brother, zero damage, its in my contract that I overcome it, doesn't matter how"
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>>285194043
Because she's pretty
>>285194050
Her arrogance
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>>285193838
The faithful start young.
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>>285194089
What makes you say she's arrogant? She's just a fun-loving girl from everything we've seen.
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>>285193896
plenty of saber in fate/zero
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>>285193933
Can't wait to see the same with Kohaku and Arach in Red Garden!
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>>285194082
For me reading FSF the fights were less interesting than the character interactions, which I suppose is a Narita specialty. That man could not give less of a shit about the reason why a fight resolves the way it does, it just needs to get to the next character moment.
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Perseus standing with a pile of corpses stacked up in front of a massive ventilation fan
The fanatic girl just offering up prayers in front of a massive ventilation fan
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This show has a very nice artstyle, along with Case Files.
Much better than whatever they came up with for Apocrypha and FGO, also better than what Ufo did with the stay night adaptations.
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>>285194082
Alcides's "contract" has definitely raised so many bullshit flags that he is due for an utterly massive blowout and an incredibly humiliating defeat after cheating so goddamn far head
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>>285194181
Its the Hulkamania effect, you aren't allowed to lose here or now. Even if the story can't provide any reason why you won.
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>>285194181
I mean, Herk showed up in his mind just to make fun of him
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>>285194173
Oooh good catch
Man I wonder if they'll ever make Prototype real
It'd probably just be Sakurai slop anyway and Nasu seems uninterested in making good things nowadays.
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I can't imagine the CIA losing.
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>>285194082
What am I supposed to take from "not in my contract"?
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My second favorite family in the franchise
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>>285194209
I am 100% certain that his death will come about through Thia. It was already established that Flat could reach backwards through From Hell to start doing damage to Alcides from within, and it was reestablished in Volume 9 that Thia still has a command spell on him, and that Thia working magecraft is like a fully functional engine compared against Flat's 2D diagram of one. Plundering From Hell with no justification was his biggest and most dire mistake both from a narrative standpoint and strategic one, and he's gonna pay for it twice over.
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>>285194261
Its like pro wrestling, its not in your contract to lose here, the "story" protects you. You keep failing upward even if it doesn't make sense half the time.
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>>285194082
Could have just claimed that the grail mud was protecting him and we would still have the same outcome.
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>>285194173
I hope they don’t fuck Perseus Greek Heroes in Fate are cool or lame as fuck but he might be ruined by Sakurai if he’s ever used.
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Sieg
>Slowly learns to be human
>Close with a Servant whose gender is hard to tell
>Devout Religious Servant Waifu
>Kinda becomes a Servant
>Hot mom
>Caster with a sword
Sigma
>Slowly learns to be human
>Close with a Servant whose gender is hard to tell
>Devout Religious Servant Waifu
>Will become a Servant
>Hot mom
>Lancer with a bow
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>>285193729
The best Fate stories are those not written by Nasu after all...
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>>285194328
fateslop trash
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>>285194307
They'll never use him
They'll just keep giving his stuff to Medusa
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This is why Ciel loves curry
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>>285194082
Alcides really is the most anti-fun element in the story, he only served to make teams Berserker and clan Calatin pointless. Jack went on to die for nothing and the cops at best just run around evacuating civilians. It would've been fine had they at least managed to bring down a nerfed Herc without divinity and taken that trophy home, but nope, gotta wank the edgelord some more.
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This is so fucking cool bros
I miss when anime was just fucking cool
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>>285194295
Oh.
It's just that Fate has pulled "I modified my contract with my servant" before. So I thought you may have meant that.
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/fateslop/i;boards:astub:no;
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>>285194295
You're supposed to say "That doesn't work for me, brother" for that ya jabronie mark.
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We skipped even more scenes this episode. I hate the act of adaptation.
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Im betting all my money and the house on Hippolyta
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Is Illya or Jason the biggest Heracles Gazer of TYPE-MOON?
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>>285194441
It's not impossible they'll come back to her next time.
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Btw for the novels, volume 10 is supposed to be the last one but still no announced release date, is that right?
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>>285194522
Correct. Narita also pretty much said it was gonna be a double feature so twice as long as any other.
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People that only watched FSN anime before expect this to be Zero 2.0

What this really is
>Narita referencing literally every other story in TM canon
>Even the stuff you've never heard of
>Even if you read every story you probably won't catch half the references
>Like literally he just throws out random connections to characters constantly, he'll say "This guy is secretly related to a random background character from Prototype or Zero" sometimes
>Narita wanted a story that brings together every other story, as Nasu was fighting him on it the entire time
>Narita trying to introduce crazy shit in the story only for Nasu to one up him sometimes, like when Nasu introduced Dantes before Narita could
>Any time you expect someone to die they manage to get bailed out like every Narita story
>Its on the final volume for two years now with 90% of the cast still probably alive
>I think the town has been nuked like three times so far
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>>285194441
Tsubaki and Rider are one of the most complex bits to adapt because there's literally no spoken dialogue explaining what the fuck is happening, besides the one line in your pic.. It's all narration up until way later when people finally start speculating aloud.
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>>285194441
It's been years since I read the novels, so I didn't realize. I was half-surprised it wasn't Jack who broke into the police station.
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She deserved a better character arc
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>>285194604
Christemo, please
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2026 will be one of the most GOATED year for anime.
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I would happily get murdered by these pigs
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Raving Shadow Flash
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>>285194634
All Cops are QUEENS
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>>285194627
>Strange Fake now
>SBR in March
>finally a Liar's Game adaptation in April
Really stacked first half of the year.
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>>285194645
Ichor of Reverie
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>>285194181
Huwawa deserves to take him out with some greater bullshit about how by rejecting his divinity he becomes vulnerable to monsters.
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>>285194655
>Liar's Game adaptation
Negative budget judging by the last trailer.
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>>285194672
Delusional Heartbeat
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>>285194604
Not really? I think Siegfried, Jeanne and Achilles were the only ones who deserved better, and I only say that by reverse-engineering how central they were to the story.
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I cant imagine Richard losing he is pretty much Artoria level.
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>>285194634
>cute police girl with twintails
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This Gilgamesh doesn't have memories of the 5th HGW, does he?
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>>285194686
Febrile Inspiration
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The true fate anime that we want is the next prisma movie
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>>285194707
Nope, Narita was actually following Nasu's rules of memory loss instead of the retarded modern fanservice rules.
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>>285194701
He's hard limited by available weapons and the size of his contractor's mana pool. I don't even think he has the full squad of bro's in FSF.
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>>285194634
>Police officers are now allowed to dye their hair pink
America has fallen
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>>285194707
No, he tries to use his Clairvoyance to see it at one point but gets blocked by the Mud and sees FHA instead
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>>285194736
Why wouldn't he?
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Is Strange Fake a world where Tsukihime and Fate/Stay Night exist at the same time?
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>>285194539
>like when Nasu introduced Dantes before Narita could
Nasu is just like that, he WILL be the one to show you the thing he thought of before anyone else can. I even recall an interview with SOMEONE—that I haven't been able to find again for years—where they mentioned wanting to use Odysseus as a character and Nasu said "Nope, there's lore that I haven't mentioned yet so you can't use him."

Then we got lostbelt 5.
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>>285194551
I know, damn you.
I still will miss one of the most beautifully enigmatic lines because it doesn't work outside of text and is hell to translate besides.
>She danced with “him”. She danced with “him”.
>To forget the time she spent awake.
>“He” danced with her. “He” danced with her.
>To grant her every wish.
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>>285194778
It doesn't really matter that much when FZ Fionn looks different from FGO Fionn, or long hair Lancelot becomes a retard in Camelot.
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Is Zouken alive in this timeline?
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>>285194778
LB5 Odysseys was fine, because Higashide was writing him. It wasn't actually him but it at least felt like him. A cold and calculating general who controlled the battlefield effortlessly.

Its every other appearance with him that wasn't great, because it switched over to Sakurai being his main writer. Still can't believe his mat book is 100% "nods at you", and the only interlude they could think of for him is "what if he was from space"
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>>285194824
Ring around a rosey. Pocket full of posey. Ashes. Ashes. We all fall down.
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>>285194837
I wanna say no and if he is he's irrelevant, his only chance of living much past FSN was with the Grail, his soul was at its limit.
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>>285194837
it follows heaven's feel except shinji lives
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>>285194837
This is post 5th grail war, and the greater grail was fully destroyed in the war. So likely Zouken fully died.
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>>285194837
The events of Fate/Stay Night are unconfirmed and unclear.
However, it is implied in volume 9 that Strange Fake takes place after the Fate route, in which case Zouken should still be alive.
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>>285194834
The issue is that you'd show off the fact that he's mecha before Nasu decided it was time to do that.
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>>285194864
One reason I hope Pale Rider and Tsubaki get added to Fate/Grand Order is because I really want to see him interact with his kin, Nursery Rhyme.
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someone post the Tine official art. you know the one.
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>>285194851
I seethe that he got taken out so easy, true Odysseus would never make that blunder

Is it because I granded him and really him? Maybe, but he would never job like that
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>>285194899
>takes place after the Fate route
The only route that fits is HF since the Einzebern's are bitching about the greater grail being destroyed. Which is why the Einzebern's came to Snowfield as their final chance to take advantage of this grail after losing Ilya.
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>>285194539
>expect this to be Zero 2.0
Nah, I'm expecting DRRR combined with Type-Moon clusterfuck that sounds about right so far because it's Narita.
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>>285194539
>2 sets of Servants fighting each other
More like Apoc really, since it buffs the power level a lot.
Karna vs Sieg does feel like what would happen if you could throw tac nukes for basic attacks.
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why is the brown girl wearing a bridal dress?
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>>285195044
She has been promised
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>>285194940
No anon, the Einzberns give up no matter what so long as Illyasviel, their most ideal homunculus, fails. That's enough to make them go "fuck it, if that didn't work, nothing will" and turn off.
>Which is why the Einzebern's came to Snowfield as their final chance to take advantage of this grail after losing Ilya.
That's not what happens at all. Prelati reactivated Filia and she went off towards Snowfield, but the Einzbern clan is dead and dusted, Filia's doing that either of her own volition exclusively or because Prelati compelled her (it's not clear).
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>narita
>Lets destroy snowfield

>Nasu
>Lets destroy the planet and try again if we fail the first time

Man, I love Tezcatlipoca
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>>285195013
Apoc is still generally a normal war
FSF is "How strange can I make every part of the war".
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>>285195086
>Gets a cameo in FSF
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>>285195086
Could Tez beat Gil, Pale Rider and Alcides?
I would assume that Bat King could kill all three
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The final battle will be Sigma vs Richard, I'd bet anything
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>>285195143
Tezca's power level even in LB7 ranges between "normal human" and "servant level" a lot, since he's technically a living human. His authority allows him to manifest the future temporarily. He's not a character you can really gauge accurately in power since his power seems to change constantly, especially since Nasu decided that white, black, blue, and red Tezcapolcta are all the same person which is just odd.
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>Hansa Cervantes
he doesn't look Mexican
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>>285194126
I knew about FZ, but thanks.
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>>285195143
>Gil
He's a god, not a hero, so Gilgamesh doesn't have his guaranteed counter or a perfect understanding of him. Gil can still win if he approaches Tezcatlipoca as a warrior and fights with all his heart, but he's too proud to do that, so he's fucked.
>Pale Rider
Complicated. A rival lord of the underworld would be someone he can't just command and compel. However he would have authority over Tsubaki as chief of the aztec gods, and Pale Rider would kneel to Tezcatlipoca to keep her safe.
>Alcides
Probably not. Alcides has everything he needs to stand strong and faces everything with the will of a warrior to begin with, even if his motivation is hate, Tez would yield. So long as you commit, Tez basically lets you win.
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>>285195259
He's spanish.
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>>285195275
>implying japs know the difference
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>>285195259
He was adopted by a spanish priest. He's a japanese mountain man, of the likes of Kuzuki, Peperoncino, Kiara, and Nanaya. His mountain clan was killed by a vampire though.
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>>285195044
For breeding with Gil
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>>285195122
Which color?
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>>285195294
Narita does at least you get a whole mini backstory of his past in Spain.
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>>285195300
but he's enkidusexual
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>>285195299
He's not japanese at all, the mountains were in Spain.
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>>285195299
Spanish mountain man, actually. Good enough for Narita. Any mountain will do.
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>>285195299
why are japanese mountain men so powerful?
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>>285195322
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>>285195302
Tsubaki just sees him for a few moments while going through Underworlds
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>>285195359
nasu is autistic and thinks mountains are magic
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>>285195359
the higher you are above humanity in a literal sense, the higher you are above humanity in a figurative sense
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>>285195359
Mountains are magical.
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>>285195379
Major cutie
Assassin's pretty good too
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Hansa's mom also took down the DA that massacred their village with her
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>>285195272
I think you're overestimating him especially in his current manifestation. Gilgamesh is good at gauging his enemies and all of their abilities due to his third NP.

>The Omniscient Omnipotent Star
>Rank: EX
>Type: Anti-Unit
>Sha Nagba Imuru.
>The mentality of the King of Heroes - which spread across all corners of the world as if the brilliance of the stars, seeing through all creation - sublimated into a Noble Phantasm.
>A continuously invoked-type Noble Phantasm.

>Narita: That’s right. One of the most core pieces of information had been about the conditions for becoming a Heroic Spirit. This was revealed in a bonus novel that came with the UBW 1st season BD box. About how Merlin is still alive in the present so he can’t become a Heroic Spirit. As Gilgamesh is also a fellow clairvoyance user, I asked about the state of Gilgamesh’s memories when he’s summoned. The answer I got was that Gilgamesh can see the possibilities of various parallel worlds if he so chooses, but the Throne adjusts the memories and knowledge of the Heroic Spirit according to the world they are summoned in, so he won’t be confused by having multiple sets of memories. I was told that even if he did use clairvoyance to see the possibility of a world where he was swallowed by the mud of the grail, Gilgamesh would reject that world line as being nonsense. I heard a bit of the workings of the Greater Grail, what it was based on, and other bits of important background information for Fate, but I believe Nasu will one day write the story of how the Greater Grail was disassembled!
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I wanna have sex with Tine
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>>285194686
Still the coolest by far. Cursed Arm knew what it was all about, shame he gets overshadowed for being the most 'standard' non-waifu Hassan.
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>>285195440
Sha Nagba Imuru is explicitly all of HUMAN wisdom. it does not work beyond humanity; he literally can't even tell what a vampire is when he looks right at it (basically says "I dunno, some kind of big monster"). Gods are also beyond his full comprehension.
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>>285195440
I wonder if that lets him see what Jack can do or Saber's bro's other than them existing.
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>>285195376
Who else she sees there? Nitocris, Ereshkigal and First Hassan?
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>>285195500
Well, he was the first one.
I still wanna see the funny dwarf explosive Hassan in action (maybe if we get an FHA adaptation).
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>>285195364
>Ishtar lost to Enkidu and Hakuno
It’s over
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>>285195549
Just Eresh, I think
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>>285195359
This is what happen to a MF after he leaves the mountain for so long
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bug ass glizzy
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>>285195511
Its not because vampires are some big monster

Its because vampires are the anti humanity. They errode human wisdom and knowledge entirely. Alaya cannot record them since they erase or corrupt any records around them.

This doesn't apply to anything else, its not that it just records "humans". Vampires are just a special case due tot heir recent wank.
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do you guys think the true servants and masters will get added to the ED later on?
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>>285195653
I think it'll keep getting extended after Alaya as each extra character is revealed. And Assassin will move to the end of the line when Sigma shows up to get away from Joker.
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>>285195364
Kizubros...
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>>285194899
FSF is its own seperate canon, but it's set in a similar universe as FSN. Specifically, it's apparently set in the Fate/school life canon of all things, which seems to follow an altered version of HF where Shinji lives.
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How likely that we get a Miss Blue cameo?
Man I hope they animate Flat's backstory.
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>>285195653
It's obvious they're getting added it's straight up missing certain people
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Why arent you reading the Best Fate spin off ever
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>>285195636
It's because vampires aren't human so he gets no freebies. Gods are also not part of human wisdom, and Tezcatlipoca is perfectly capable of eluding clairvoyance just as well. Do you think the title of Smoking Mirror is for show?
Fuck's sake, he doesn't even use Sha Naqba Imuru to any extensive degree, he wouldn't use it at all with a god as his enemy because gods do not excite him.
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>>285195707
Reread my post before you add nothing to it. Strange Fake is absolutely not "set in Fate/school life canon".
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>>285195742
>Servantslop
>more nipwank at that
It's probably better than FGO but then again what isn't.
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>>285195604
At least he's not wearing the dog collar
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>>285195742
Because I’m butthurt they removed Kohaku and Akiha. I’ll get around to it eventually, there’s just a ton of stuff, and afaik the manga is far from being completed.
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>>285195786
we have nazis
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>>285195823
>2 Masters to 9 Servants ratio
Glaring red flag.
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>>285195272
Tezcatlipoca can't beat any of these three. The most he's gotten away with beating regular Koyanskaya and then fucking off against everything or losing outright. Combat is not his strong suit
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>>285195883
All the servants have masters
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>>285195823
Terrible image to make anyone want to read it
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>>285195883
The girl isn’t even a Master
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>>285195894
Anon, his showing in Lostbelt 7 was with a human body after sacrificing most of his organs, but even so, at the time you actually face him down, it's in the underworld where your shadow servant connections are cranked to maximum.
He's still a Grand Servant with unimaginable flexibility and a chief god's Authority that he's entirely capable of using at the cost of several more organs.
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>>285195823
If I wanted to watch/read a Japanese story about Japanese heroes being wanked, I'd watch literally anything besides Fate. Japs writing about heroes they have no real inbuilt bias towards is one of the better parts of Fate now that they have given up on actually developing interesting protagonists.
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>>285195883
It's just missing all the Masters, like Izou's hot Nazi Master, No Shinji, Not Saber, and my personal favorite, the Fire Rat
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>>285195943
The Tezca you fight in the underworld isn't the him that lost his organs
His human pseudo servant body already died when you killed him before ORT awoke
The underworld self was just his normal self as a divine spirit, which is why he was suddenly Ruler.
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>>285195883
the girl isnt even a master, and the pic doesnt even shown them. One of the masters is part of Hitler's personal soldiers
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>>285195742
I do read Fate/kaleid liner prisma illya Drei!! already
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>>285195943
Yeah, that's what a pseudo-servant is. And in the underworld, he already lost that. it was just his regular version.
Tez is a massive jobber in battle. The most he can do is hide or buff his allies with smoke. And that means fuck all to those three.
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>>285196040
>>285195912
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>>285196028
The Prisma Ilya artist draws a cute Seiba.
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>>285196080
Oh cool, so there’s at least one besides the tragic Kohaku removal that’s significantly different.
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>>285195994
>>285196059
This is entirely irrelevant as these "versus" nonsense usually presume peak performance, therefore he'd have all of his organs fresh for sacrificing anew. Jesus christ y'all are nitpickers.
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>>285196116
>both heracles and gilgamesh have legends about returning from the underworld
its a bad match up
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>>285196150
Eh, Gil didn't return triumphant from the underworld though, he returned a loser.
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God I hope Dorothea is a blatant loli, like Remilia tier
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>>285196190
He returned with the herb. It was after that the snake ate it. And then Fate Gil went back and got more later just because he wanted it for his treasury.
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>>285196190
Actually, he went back and got it anyway
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>>285196263
And the herb was his shit consolation prize after he flunked Utnapishtim's test in seven seconds.
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>>285195653
Hey wait a minute... Does this confirms that Kalion is a mare? There is no dick there
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>>285194742
KEK
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>>285196362
>WOW WOW they didn't draw the giant floppy horse dick
>THIS IS PROOF PEOPLE
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>>285196040
Kohaku butt
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>>285196250
Who?
Is the Samurai Remnant Master gonna show up in Redline?
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>>285196454
Jester's true name is Dorothea and is a girl in her original body. It's unlikely she's SR Dorothea
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>>285196438
This, so much this.

>>285196484
oh ok I had no idea who you meant by that besides her.
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I can't believe it took this long to get a Priest in a Fate worldline work that isn't corrupt and/or insane and actually does his job description of tard wrangling retarded mages and killing uppity demons properly.
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>>285196533
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>>285196550
Apparently, Kirei DOES do his job. He's just evil and corrupt on top of that
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The complete shitstorm going on in the lobby while Ayaka and Saber just wander out the back is great though.
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>>285193540
The writer is afraid of killing fucking anyone. I think this must be the HGW where it takes the most for any Servant to go down.
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Is this the first Fate series not to genderbend a historical figure? Half of them are genderless monsters but they weren't made to be genderless monsters that look like little girls.
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What's with all these cute girls everywhere?
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>>285196627
Prelati
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>>285196655
Historical Prelati was a dude, the millenia spanning monster just body hopped into a girl at this point in time.
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>>285196655
That's cancelled out by other Prelati.
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>>285196250
>>285196484
God I hope so
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>>285196634
When you get enough mages into a single group you are gonna end up with a lot of handsome men and pretty women because of all the eugenics.
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>>285196570
>killing uppity demons properly.
He's pretty chill about the whole thing too.
Like, even if you're a dead apostle, if you just keep to yourself and don't harm humanity, he said that he's more than willing to turn a blind eye and let you be.
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>>285195742
Because I don't know what that is!
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anyone have a webm of the part of the OP where Sigma shoots the screen and then Watcher's forms pop up?
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>>285196627
It's a 500 mile reach, but Watcher is stated to be female and implied to be Moby Dick
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>>285196764
Watcher is Leviathan/Moby Dick, harking back to Nasu saying Moby Dick was a superweapon divine beast.
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>>285194570
Same here. I don't understand how people can remember such minute details I'm jealous.
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>>285196828
Well Moby Dick in the book is believed to be a male whale.
So there's your genderbend.
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>>285196764
No it's Charlie Chaplin.
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>>285195653
lole, I hadn't noticed this
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I can't wait until that small part when Assassin Jack appears.
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>>285194441
I'm desperately hoping we get a flashback at the start of the hospital arc, it wouldn't be hard to do and might flow better for making sure people are aware of the weird shit going on with Fake Rider when it starts actually being relevant.
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>>285194441
I want to see what Pale Rider's valentine scene would look like.
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FUCK JESTER NO HOMO
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>>285197060
it's a girl underneath so it's het
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>>285197004
What else besides a lovesick chocolate?
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lesbianism is haram, that is why Zealot doesn't like Jester
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Kek
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>Holy Grail war in America
>Rap music starts playing
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>>285197210
>arrested in America
>cops don't immediately mag dump on you if you were to disappear out of your handcuffs and reappear
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>>285197238
he's not black so they're wary
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Reminder that Strange Fake takes place in 2009 so Barack Obama is president during all this bullshit.
This is of no consequence whatsoever it just makes me happy to remember.
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>>285193373
if i've never played Tsukihime would it be better to experience it as the Remake or the original release
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>>285197270
I wonder how it would have affected his electoral chances against Romney in 2012 if it was revealed mythical heroes were blowing up a mid sized city in Nevada.
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Does Gil actually get to be competent or is he going to go out like a bitch again because serious Gil is too strong?
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>>285197346
legendary jobbing
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>>285197346
>go out like a bitch again
this one
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>>285197346
He's mostly serious this war, but the war is too chaotic for even serious gilgamesh to do much. He spends like six volumes in a coma after several characters work together to bullshit him.
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>all in on red
what did he mean by this?
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>>285197411
It was skipped, but he explains that gambling is basically a bank withdrawal to him, his luck and Golden Rule means he can't actually lose.
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Marriage and sex.
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>>285197285
The remake can be played without knowledge of the original, but it's more fun when you're already familiar with the original and can appreciate the differences. Plus the original is worth playing at some stage. So I'd say play the original first.
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>Gil finally stops jobbing and wins a grail war
>world becomes a utopia
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>>285197285
Original game is like six hours long, and the Remake is only two routes of the original five route(plus afterstory) game

You do not know shit about Tsukihime unless you play every route. Yes its one of those games where you learn more of the truth each route, and then you finally learn everything.

Remake only adapts the near side routes currently, which is like if there was a FSN remake that's literally just Fate route. Except imagine if Fate route was 10x longer, and they added dozens of lore segments about how great saber is
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>>285197444
They skipped explaining her invisibility ring but still had her bump into a lady and get ignored. That was awkward.
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>>285197524
Like, all the OG Tsukihime fans basically admit near side sucks ass compared to far side, even if Arc is the most well known heroine just due to being main heroine. The real meat of Tsukihime is the far side routes. Final two routes are the meaning of the game.
This is a concept that's lost big time with the new age of Tsukihime fans, and the new updated lore that says all DAA are now beyond world tier. Where people now pretend Ciel is a good heroine.
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>>285197533
Oh was she invisible? I thought that woman just felt uncomfortable since the girl was with Gil
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>>285197524
>six hours long
?
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>>285197570
Its a paltry item that just causes normalfags to ignore you, because children aren't allowed in casinos. Which means anyone that notices her is automatically someone of note.
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>I'm a genius
>OH NO
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>>285197617
She's so cute and pretty maybe that's why Gil keeps her around.
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>>285197564
>even if Arc is the most well known heroine just due to being main heroine
Also she's the cutest
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>>285197564
Yet Tsukihime 2 would have been set after Arcueid True
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Waver will never be cool no matter how hard they try to push him.
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>>285197358
>>285197365
This time was kino though. It was the key from when he started the war. He only got serious after Enkidu showed up. So he was still fucked over by prior carelessness. And the one who fucked him over was one of the only people who could have.
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>>285197533
so she could be in my room right now watching me masturbate?
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>>285197661
Read Zero, CCC, FGO(babylonia chapter mostly), it adds a lot of context to Gilgamesh character over the years. As long as you don't fuck around too much or act like a pointless dick sucker, Gilgamesh will be willing to work with people. He won't ever coddle master's though, he rather enjoys testing them occasionally. He's lenient with Tine since she's still young. He spends a lot of time trying to force her to think for herself a bit.
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>>285197420
I remembered his luck but forgot about golden rule
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Is the dub good?
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>>285197722
It's kind of funny that everyone thinks Gil will repay improper deference with death, but he actually acknowledges someone willing to seize his reins and command him for their own ambitions is unsightly but bearable because at least you're going for something.
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Hehehehe, Richard is slang for dick.
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>>285197829
He wouldn't even betray Tokiomi until Kotomine gave him direct reason to betray him, by telling him that Tokiomi always planned to betray him. Gilgamesh honors contracts as long as he's given proper respect and honor typically. However he's not stupid, he got close to Kotomine in order to have Kotomine reveal Tokiomi's true intentions. You need seven servants to fill the grail, which means the winning master must still sacrifice their own servant to complete it in the end, which is what the command spells are for, a suicide order. This is what Gilgamesh took offense towards.
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Jesus every Master in this war is a mana tank
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The Church is rather underrepresented in Fate works. So which one is the standard of the Church really?

Are majority of them corrupt and secretly sociopaths like Kotomine?
Or are majority of them otherwise chill and reasonable folk that takes the part of the job that actually matters (i.e. protecting humans and respecting God) seriously like Cervantes?
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For the police this was their first real battle, they had not atuned to their NP at all yet. Assassin was the perfect first opponent for them; Jester says she would kill a majority of them, but the ones that lived would attune themselves to their NP throughout the battle and come into their own power properly. Eventually the police that learned to properly become one with the weapon could even fight knight class servants. But they still would never be able to fight something like Jester properly, due to compatibility.
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>>285197829
Just being able to summon Gil is enough for a baseline level of respect from him since it means you are competent enough to summon as strong as him and you are smart enough to know that you should summon him because he's the best. Just dont go full retard afterwards and try to treat him like a slave.
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>>285198052
The general stock of the church learns more towards Hanse's side of things. Though not all of them are as chill as the spanish cyborg priest.
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>>285198052
Think of them like the military with their own special divisions with a bunch of weirdos and nutcases
The lower rank they are the more normal they are
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>>285198052
They're all oddities, because they have to be oddities to fight dead apostles and save the world daily from monsters. They're not evil or corrupt if that's what you're asking, but they also don't tend to be soft at all. Even the normal ones have to know how to kill, and how to turn off emotions since they're dealing with demons. They're based vaguely on Hellsing Church.
Demons, monsters, dead apostles, DAA, the church has to deal with them constantly. Church as a neutral party even has to moderate wars just to make sure mages don't go too wild.

Ciel was created before Kotomine, you should already know what they're like from Ciel.
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so do we have to wait 2 more years for another episode again
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>Crusades KEPT getting interrupted by DAA until both sides of the war just agreed to a truce that if vampires show up, both sides would immediately drop everything to kill them
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>>285198052
The church is basically the magic men in black that try to keep magic shit in check. They will spend a month dismembering a girl over and over but it's for the greater good of the world.
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>>285195359
Mountains have Tengus and spirits and monks and all sorts of ascetic shit which makes you superhuman (and deranged)
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>>285197693
You will kneel when Sanda gets to write the Dismantle Grail War (previously hinted by Nasu)
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>>285198036
Not all of them, but plenty. Freak Masters:
Tine: personally connected to the land's leylines
Ayaka: freaky spoiler shit
Jester: hundreds of years old, hundreds of people eaten
Tsubaki: inadvertent aztec goddess
Flat: Flat
Prelati: ancient demigod
Bazdilot: 24976 human sacrifices
More spoiler shit: literally 30 people in one contract

Non freak Masters:
Wolf: just a wolf (Enkidu gets most of his mana from the planet)
Orlando: he tries his best
Faldeus: fool
Haruri: in over her head
Sigma: servant is a peanut gallery
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>>285197210
I hate how Japan's idea of western music is just rap. We are literally the birthplace of jazz and hip hop.
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>>285198052
If you ask a Nasuverse Church member what their opinion on mages are, they would probably say that they fucking hate them and wish they were burning in eternal hellfire already.
But they also have self-awareness and restraint to realize that hunting down mages unprovoked is probably not a very good thing to do. And so they only hunt down mages that step way out of the line.
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If the Cervantes fight next week doesn't give him sick Flamenco music, I will be mildly upset.
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>>285198328
Church has its hands full dealing with non humans, it isn't going to start a fight with the entire underside of humanity. The magus association has a deep history that isn't going to be snuffed out like that. Pretty much what seperates Fate and Tsuki are whether the church or MA has more sway, but even then the MA spent thousands of years developing contingency plans going underground and hiding between dimensions. Its doubtful the church can even deal with Wandering Sea, they aren't dealing with mages like that.
Ultimately their fight isn't with humanity.
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>>285198328
Once a mage finally summons Jesus the crusade is coming back.
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>>285198328
>If you ask a Nasuverse Church member what their opinion on mages are, they would probably say that they fucking hate them and wish they were burning in eternal hellfire already.
Given magecraft was literally invented by King Solomon, I put some doubt on that.
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Threadly reminder that Fate/Zero sucks.
And its fans deserve to be brutally beaten to a pulp.
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>>285194354
They will just dump him in FGO at this rate, his wife is already in it
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>>285198421
i like iskandar
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>>285198421
Banquet of Kings is still the best written scene in Fate
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>>285198421
Many say this including myself
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>>285194441
AR EY AM SO TU MY ER?
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This guy is actually secretly stronger than Hansa, Kirei and Ciel.

t. nasu
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Does SF take place in a timeline permutation where the events of the FZ 4th HGW happened, or is it just one of those other timelines where Waver still became El Melon independent of the 4th HGW because reasons.
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Hansa vs. Kirei discuss.
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>>285198540
Waver flashbacked to Iskandar in the OVA
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Tell me about the church girls.
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>>285198572
I thought those were the El-Melloi classmate people.
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>>285198524
And you'll have to read Mahoyo 3 to find out why he's so strong
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>you can learn gay magic shit like cast fireball
>or you can explode a man with a pilebunker
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Why is Hyppo the only true Servant who appears in the ending?
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>>285198407
Magecraft was invented by Solomon, but it was perverted almost immediately after his death by Goetia.
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>>285194634
the most unrealistic part of strange fake is cute cops
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>>285198638
Ask yourself where season 1 ends
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>>285198654
but the other true niggas are in the OP
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If mages are so great why do mages keep summoning non mages?
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>>285198652
There are no fat people either
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>>285197285
if i were you i would at least still read the OG tsuki
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>>285198654
>Ask yourself where season 1 ends
Probably with Jack VS Alcides?
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>>285198687
That's pretty optimistic
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>>285198695
Is it?
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Is Fake Assassin the strongest Assassin servant or is it just because she has Jester as her master?
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I'm sorry but El-Melloi's class turning out to be one Master is kind of a bullshit idea.
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>>285198695
Lot of parts from that fight appear in the opening as well as from hell being shown off I don't think it's too optimistic
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>>285198721
She's, kinda fucking awful. Almost bottom tier assassin

Even True Assassin is a lot better in this same war
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>>285198721
Not even close she's just a swiss army knife of zabaniyas
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>MA
>Get forced into whatever unholy bullshit research your family is doing. If you're lucky, you'll make it to adulthood
>You have a pretty good chance to get matched with your hot cousin to have sex with an refine your bloodline's inbred magic circuits I guess

>Church
>Get your body trained to the utmost peak limits of the human condition
>Play with toys infused with THE POWER OF GOD
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>>285198721
>tries to kill her only lifeline (if she's suicidal there are faster ways to do it)
>engages with saber class and almost takes an energy beam to the face
>attacks a room full of cops instead of sneaking and assassinating on the down low
idk about strongest but for sure the dumbest
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>>285193266
Do you guys think they'll adapt this to the end or leave it hanging like el melloi? I hate that I have to read the book for the continuation. Not that I hate reading but I have to read from the beginning for the sake of consistency and I hate reading things I already know.
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>>285198721
Strongest assassins
>Kama
>King Hassan
>Azreal
>Shuten Douji
>Tezcatlipoca
>Kawakami Gensai(maybe)

Fake Assassin is maybe top 60
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>>285198721
Her method of infiltrating a fortified building is "smash into it like a cannonball". She's kind of retarded.
She has a lot of combat options but she's bad at almost all of them, she can't use the strongest Zabaniya very well at all and relies on the middling ones to get by. This gives her an upper-middle strength level on the whole BECAUSE she has a master who provides her with a nearly endless font of magical energy letting her spam and spam and spam, but between her incompetence and her lack of high quality trump cards, even that upper-middle range drops her down to the middle at best.
"Better than Cursed Arm Hassan" at least? There's a lot of Assassins in F/GO who would style on her like crazy.
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>>285198772
She has NO stealth skill at all
No presence concealment
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>>285198761
I would at least put Kashin Koji above the level of Shuten. EX rank Karakuri Creation to spy, infiltrate, and assassinate, EX rank Illusion to fool anything that can be fooled, high grade Mystic Eyes to subdue combat opponents, and a very deadly long range noble phantasm that doesn't require contact like some Zabaniyas.
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>>285193616
>>285198711
wait, that's the actual character design for FSF Jack in the LN?
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>>285198833
Jack has many forms, but that's his highest spec combat form born of a Noble Phantasm, yes.
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>>285198814
>when she finds out Jester is gay for her
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Committing war crimes with Richard
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>>285198721
Her whole character is that she's incompetent and getting hard carried by having a DA be her mana battery. She's meant to be impressive at first with having "mastered" all those noble phantasms but the more information you get the more you realize "Of fucking course she wasn't made a True Assassin"

The fact that she has to UNGA BUNGA through barriers is proof of how incompetent she is. She's a a simple religious zealot pretending to be what she isn't and relying entirely on her Master letting her spam her tricks to not just get one shot.
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>>285198842
i wonder how would nasu justify the other design for servants
>fsf jack and loli jack
also i wonder if the watcher samurai dude is proper history musashi
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>>285194355
SOVL
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>>285198894
Apocrypha Jack has only ever been a "candidate" for Jack the Ripper. She definitely killed some women in London around the right time, but it's not clear if she killed the correct five whores to be THE Jack. Additionally: she is one of Fake Jack's possible forms, in fact; whenever it tries to become a child, it becomes her specifically. (To Flat's incredible embarrassment, in the LN he immediately covers her with a bedsheet)
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>>285198328
Given that they basically did nothing to Zouken and Kirei, I seriously doubt they care that much.
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>>285198967
>Additionally: she is one of Fake Jack's possible forms
huh that's pretty neat
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Onii-chan, can you get the button?
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>>285198967
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20Ig93p8PWs

This interlude explains the Jack situation pretty much for people that didn't want to read the Apocrypha novels. But child jack definitely isn't the real jack.
Narita just never misses a chance at referencing other Fate stories.
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>>285198507
It's the biggest case of nonsense being forced as right in a story.
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>>285199033
What's the lore behind this, all I remember is it being a ghost story from HA
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>>285199090
It's Ayaka's backstory.
To explain further requires a full chapter of volume 9 information.
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So for people caught up with the light novel, any confidence Narita will cleanly wrap it up in vol 10? I'm at 7 and I feel like there's about a million loose ends to reconcile.
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Whoever said magic when went from 1-5?
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>>285194865
He's alive in FGO's Ordeal Call thougheverbeit.
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>>285199138
Anon if you even know what Ordeal Call is you should know already that's just a program in his shape.
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Is the manga for this good or shitty compared to the LN? How far has it adapted?
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>>285199129
I trust Narita to be autistic enough to wrap it all up in a bow, which is why it's taking so fucking long.
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>>285199180
It's good, but not very far at all. The manga halted abruptly three years ago, part of the way into volume 3 of LN material.
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>>285199180
It's alright, the scans are complete dogshit though
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>>285199207
axed or hiatus?
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>>285199226
No official statement why.
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>>285199129
Volume 9 has set up many of the final conflicts. But none of the final battles have really started in earnest. I trust Narita as a guy who has been writing these kinds of stories for 2 decades, but this will easily be his biggest fucking challenge because of how he added the el-melloi dogshit to the work. These guys took up way too much time in volume 8 and 9 and set the pacing back. If Narita can ignore them and focus on the rest, it's doable. The characters that are in most need of attention
>Gilgamesh (Iykyk)
>Huwawa
>Tine
>Franscescas
Narita needs to handle these guys with new developments
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During the entire war there's like five or six people that are just watching the entire thing play out that the story has to keep cutting back to for commentary
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>>285195493
>>285197444
She's literally a 12yo child.
>>285195742
That doesn't look like Prillya though.
>>285196963
Jack is so fucking hot. I have to fap every time.
>>285198747
It's a shame we will never have this nigger on FGO. Aniplex is a bitch.
>>285199159
He's real to me.
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after fgo
im hoping TM would make a new triple A game that's at least written by nasu
F/SR is okay but it has no impact when compared to f/sn, or tsuki
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>tfw we're getting sacchin route soon
tsukihime bros we cant stop winning!!!!!
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>>285199376
>She's literally a 12yo child.
ZAMN
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>>285199401
>soon
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We're all little girls on the inside just ask Jester
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>>285199413
Holy hell is that the mfer I have to parry?
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>>285193373
What are the chances of Dorothea Jester looking like Dead Apostle Noel
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>>285198151
Richard and Saladin teamed up to kill a vampire? Uh I’m thinking based.
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How much mana does a dead apostle have anyway?
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questio for those of you who bothered with fgo, who ended up being all the grand servants?
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I hate Type Mars so fucking much
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>>285199569
There are no set grands they rotate. We do learn about Type Mars being Elizabeth
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the CIA are just fodders in this war right?
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>>285199596
>We do learn about Type Mars being Elizabeth
excuse me?
what the fuck, you serious?
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>>285199608
the glowniggers want to be the masterminds but keeps failing
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>>285199596
How does an Hungarian woman become Type Mars.
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>>285199608
Faldeus is the funniest guy in the entire show.
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>>285199637
very carefully
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>>285199608
They are the endgame boss. Once the servants start having their big final fight they will call in the entire US military
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>>285199608
The spooks are a bunch of Kiritsugu's so they're threatening to an extent but there's also a point.
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>>285198599
fucks sake
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>>285199596
>Checks it out
>It's servantverse shit
Of course
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>>285199679
Harry Potter rules. Gun beats wizard and that's why they are in hiding.
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>>285199376
>She's literally a 12yo child.
OUT OF 10
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>>285195555
She's getting so much art.
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>>285194082
>A monster gets BTFO by the most famous monster slayer
>this is somehow bullshit
Really nigga
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What kind of wording is necessary to tame a wild Servant such as Assassin, with a command spell?
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>>285195618
SAWAKINO!!!
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>>285199886
As long as you're direct with your wording, it's pretty simple to wrangle a servant into submission. Command Spells are very convenient like that.
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>>285198967
Flat feels shame?
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>>285193794
I like her chuuni chant in the el melon anime.
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>>285199968
>>285199886
you still need a degree of willful submission unless you're using a berkerker whose madness enhancement leaves them too incoherent to even think about trying to rules lawyer their way around "Obey me and don't act without my instructions"
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>>285199886
It's easy, but now you literally just sacced a command spell for nothing. All the masters who have good relationships with their servants will have one more spell than you and HGW is a team sport.
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>>285195300
Can you get pregnant from servant's seed?
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>>285199886
can I use a command spell to rape my servant?
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How much fate lore do I need to know for this? I only know the very basics - shit like what servants are, what the
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>>285200397
You're good to go.
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>>285200397
fsn (deen) and tsuki (manga) are good enough
you'll kinda appreciate it more if you played some fgo, but its mostly just easter eggs
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>>285200424
>fsn (deen)
this anime doesnt exist
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>>285200373
It's possible, but she might kill you in your sleep for taking her virginity without her consent later.
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>>285200439
>this anime doesnt exist
shit taste it has good ost and the artstyle is better than ufo's
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>>285200465
it's a shit adaptation, incredible that newfags like you defend this garbage or even recommend it. literally kys
Read the VN, don't watch the garbage deen anime
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>>285200458
what if im a meme apostole?
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Is the pope the ultimate martial artist?
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I can't imagine Hercules losing
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>>285198392
why is jesus not in fgo yet
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>>285199569
The CF appoints different Servants as Grands depending on what Beast they are needed for (e.g. Orion should have been Grand Archer and was probably appointed for his anti-phantasmal beast advantage against Koyan)
That being said this is who has appeared as a Grand or is stated to be a candidate for Grand so far
>Grand Saber
Musashi (as a stand-in in the Grand Duel), Lord Logres (a.k.a. Perfect Seiba, was summoned by Lev Solomon in his duel with you and stated to be on the level of a Grand Saber)
>Grand Archer
Orion, Gil (Grand Duel)
>Grand Lancer
Romulus (though we summoned him in a kind of hacky way), Indra (Grand Duel)
>Grand Rider
Noah
>Grand Caster
Solomon, Merlin (candidate only)
>Grand Assassin
First Hassan (both the one who appeared in Babylonia and his younger form Azrael)
>Grand Berserker
Tezcatlipoca (sort of, he switched to Assassin afterwards), Heracles (Grand Duel)
>"""GRAND FOREIGNER"""
ORT Xibalba (ORT hacked the system and bullshitted a Grand Foreigner class container to summon itself into after crystallizing and absorbing enough data about the Servant system while we were sacrificing dozens of our own Servants to just barely manage to stop it despite it being heavily weakened from operating without a heart which had been ripped out and used as the sun of Mictlan thousands of years ago and in-game was literally at level 1.)

By the end of Part 2 though (You) are given access to the Grand Graph system and can appoint whatever Servants (You) want as Grands. (You) can even appoint two Extra class Grand Servants despite Extras not being a part of the system to begin with.
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>>285194337
Didn't he write Avalon?
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>>285200507
>suggest deen as a good entry, even tsukihime's manga adaptation in order to watch FSF
>replies with deen being absolute garbage despite it has some other decent points
>also suddenly tells you're a newfag
whatever, kiddo
i had my time of being a VNfag but this is just getting stale
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>>285199596
*Type Halloween
>>285199637
She defeated everyone else on Mars, which makes her the Ultimate One of Mars.
Except that Mars is now the Halloween Planet, so she's actually Type Halloween
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>>285200572
Merlin literally has mats noting his class as grand caster. He isn't a candidate
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>>285200520
I can, because he's never even adjacent to being the protagonist so the plot bends itself stupid to kick his ass.
Well, other than UBW, that was a loss based on match-up
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>>285200638
I cant tell if you're joking or not
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>>285200704
nta
it's servantverse nonsense
i wouldnt take it seriously
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>>285200557
He is tho, read Martha's profile and her event.
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>>285200656
They're all candidates that Alaya chooses to summon as Grand whenever they're useful, Merlin wasn't Grand Caster during Babylonia.
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>>285200507
Fate wouldn't even be where it is today without the DEEN anime. Sure the animation was trash, but the voice acting was great, they actually recreated CGs from the VN which ufotable never did, and the soundtrack was god tier.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VXqu_Jydak

Like in this scene, the animation here is absolute garbage Flash tier but it's carried completely by Junichi Suwabe's velvety tones and Kenji Kawai's musical score which made it the coolest shit ever to 13 year olds everywhere in 2006. It was so cool Kinoko even canonized the reinforced wings version of Kanshou and Bakuya Overedge afterwards.
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>>285200733
i'm GAR for archer
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we love Fate Stay/Deen and Tsukihime anime here
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>>285200772
>Tsukihime anime
except this one
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I can't even imagine Enkidu losing....
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>>285200772
deen stay night was so bad
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>>285200733
Also worth noting that using UBW here at all was pure fanservice for VN players, even though he didn't use it at this point in the VN UBW might never have gotten to appear otherwise since there were no plans for a UBW adaptation.
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>>285200772
>Tsukihime anime here
You can leave the thread now
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simpler times before fgo existed
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>>285195272
>but he's too proud to do that
No, if Gil knows he's against a god or proper beast then he will fight seriously and won't fuck around, you see him willing to go just about balls to the wall in Babylonia's finale when he summons himself as Archer, or in CCC when he realises he needs to unlock his Origin to take on Potnia Theron.
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>>285193266
The strongest.
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>>285200861
She would die first, right?
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>>285200842
>Powerlevels
Actually hilarious how Goetia shits on all those jobbers the moment he sets his plan in motion.
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>>285200876
>narita work
>characters dying
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>>285198176
>Flat: Flat
He seems like a special kind of stupid based on Waver facepalming at him all the time. Is he the Shirou?
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>>285200882
>goetia
non canon
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>>285200557
Too divine and way too powerful to be summoned. Abrahamic God has some weird shit going on, just look at like half the Grands being tied to Abrahamic myth.
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>>285200842
>Can I kill Servants?
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>>285200913
nta
but speaking of gods, i'm still seething they made greek gods as mechas for some reason
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We made the irrelevant unnamed side characters extra cute, as a joke.
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>>285200926
Ryougibros, we got powercrept...
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>>285200913
>Abrahamic myth
>myth
Anon...

And don't forget that Christianity is stated to be a blueprint for Human Order provided to ensure humanity's ultimate victory.
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>>285200907
>Arc namedropping the "I" of the Original Sin in Melty Blood
He was always there.

>>285200913
>>285200946
Nasuverse God seems like he's one of those EV trainers in Pokemon who eschews conventional morality in favour of just making humanity grow as much as possible, because he is autistically fascinated with their potential whether it brings joy or calamity
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>>285200882
who
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>>285200954
>melty blood
pure fanfic
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so i assume we'll have fakeit OP for the 2nd cour?
>https://youtu.be/DGD1NPn0kGg?si=0lOMa014gbshCQYf&t=234
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Since we are talking about gods. I hate what they did with the norse gods especially Odin. The CasCu thing was absolute bullshit
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>>285200978
No, it'll be another new song to promote.
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>people unironically thinking that anything after FSN is in any way part of the canon nasuverse
LMAO,
even FHA is a 'what if' scenario.
Only tsukihime and FSN are canon and THEY ARE THE SAME UNIVERSE.
Sorry but you gachatards lost.
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>>285200986
qrd?
was this from fgo or the shirow miwa LN?
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What I want to know is why True Rider is with the Fakes in the ending
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>>285200986
Yeah seeing them reducing Odin to essentially a Cu powerup had made me put off reading Lost Einherjar. On paper it should be interesting and Lagertha looks fantastic, but I can't take being cockblocked that hard again.

>>285201000
Shirou died miserable and turned into a nigger, F/SN lost.
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>>285201021
>Shirou died miserable and turned into a nigger
as it should be
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>>285200772
True and we absolutely despite fate/zero
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>>285198158
What was the point of picrel again? Trying everything until they find what kills her? But then she'd be dead.
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>>285201053
The goal was to kill her. They gave up when nothing worked.
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>>285198425
>Mystic Eyes are rare and valuable
>there's an entire train that runs on them
Case Files had some weird shit. I'd understand if it was a spaceship or a time machine or something, but a fucking train? It's like if IRL someone built a train that burns bitcoins.
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>>285201092
I mean that makes them perfect auction material? Though running your train on the auction material is pretty goofy yeah.
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>>285201028
I forgot to add we love fgo here
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Gil's ending in CCC is the only decent ending in all of Fate.
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>>285201119
that's right
FSN deen
Tsukihime
FGO
I'm home!
>other fsn
>ubw
>hf
>fz
>el memoi
miss me with this shit
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>>285201092
>Touko is just a total shitter who gets weaker with age in KnK, her prime was in Mahoyo and after KnK she fucks off to a space station to continue her studies
>Lol jk, she keeps travelling Lugh Beowulf post-nerf and actually he's so powerful he can fight a DAA
People complain about FGO powerwanking everything into functionally a different setting, but Case Files itself did some crazy fucking shit to the nomic assumptions of the setting. Like that one made who went full DDD and turned himself into an artificial planet that was going to replace the real planet or some shit.
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>>285201138
Tamamo x Male MC is the only good CCC ending.
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>>285199734
You know, guns and bombs are surprisingly effective at killing Masters.
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>>285201144
>DDD
shit, i forgot this was a thing
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>>285201138
If you are a woman maybe. That ending is just yumebait in fact gil route might as well be a thinly disguised otome game route
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>>285201180
Nasu definitely hasn't with how he's gone back to "people that create/turn into planets through the sheer power of their autism" as a plot point recently.
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>>285201188
Even in a nonsex way you're the first person other than Enkidu to become his true bro and you get to have bro adventures and fuck hot alien women.
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>>285200557
>why is jesus not in fgo yet
Are we SURE Jesus isn't literally the unnamed guy who got the 3rd magic?
I mean, it literally is how the Grail became a cup. And how the Church and its worshippers have real magic powers from their faith that is separate to Magecraft. The entirety of Christianity itself could have just spawned from the power of the 3rd Magic.
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>>285200145
Someone managed to get a servant pregnant in another timeline so probably, if you play your cards right.
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>>285201173
Based
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Why dont they just summon Santa and ask for the grail for christmas?
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>>285201258
>unnamed guy
Positive. For one thing, Justeaze is the one who got the 3rd. For another, the Mahoyo collab and LB6 revealed witches were the ones who established the First Magic, and Yumina was in fact the First Magician with the Ploy Kickshaws being an application of it.
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>>285201175
Fate is mostly set in Japan, guns aren't as widespread there. Kiritsugu was an anomaly. How did he even bring all his toys to Japan?
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>>285201377
He's in tight with the local Yakuza. Taiga's the granddaughter of Fuyuki's mob boss.
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>>285201377
Smuggling and his connections I assume.
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>>285201279
who?
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>>285200557
Nobody knows why Nasu did not allow Savior Classes like Buddha, in Fate/Grand Order
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>>285200926
>dinos last stand against ort
I teared up reading it
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>>285201429
He's afraid of muslims backslash
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>>285201441
Some people claim Genghis Khan will never be in Fate/Grand Order because Nasu is afraid of making real life Mongolians angry, even though it makes sense for Genghis Khan to be a Grand Rider, since he created the largest empire on horseback
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>>285201492
real life mongolians have internet?
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>>285201492
Why would mongolians be angry? Especially if Nasu makes him super strong
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>>285201305
The First Magic is also just an imperfect recreation of a divine miracle too (creating something from nothing, denial of nothingness), except it is imperfect because it relies on multiple people and even in the modern day any witches, when they die, must choose whether or not they will "rejoin the First Magic" to continue powering it.
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>>285201515
>>285201524
The last time Genghis Khan was depicted in manga, a kids manga magazine had to be recalled over a Genghis Khan gag. If Mongolians are this sensitive, that means Nasu would get complaints from Mongolian sumo wrestlers, if he made Genghis Khan look bad in Fate/Grand Order

>The editorial staff of Shogakukan's Coro Coro Comics magazine issued an apology on Friday after a depiction of Mongol Empire founder Genghis Khan in the March issue created a public outcry. Mongolian residents of Japan and the Embassy of Mongolia in Tokyo issued complaints after the magazine's most recent issue shipped on February 15.

>The issue's installment of Asumi Yoshino's Yarisugi!!! Itazura-kun children's gag manga features an image of Genghis Khan with fill-in-the-blank word spaces above his likeness. In the image, parentheses in which Genghis Khan's name may be written are instead filled in with a euphemism for "penis," and male genitalia are drawn over the Mongolian leader's face. The image appears to be related to an art contest for the manga that invites readers to draw humorous doodles over images of historical leaders.

>Many online commenters, including Mongolian residents of Japan, viewed the image as inappropriate and offensive. Genghis Khan is seen as a revered hero among Mongolian people, and he is a symbol of national identity.

>Asashoryu Akinori, a Mongolian former sumo wrestler and special ambassador to Japan, responded to the image on Twitter. He said, "I cannot forgive this!! Apologize!!" and similar remarks. The Embassy of Mongolia in Tokyo also officially denounced the depiction and posted a statement on its official Facebook page on Friday. The complaint described the depiction as "lacking morality" and said that it may violate Japan's laws protecting children from obscene images.

https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interest/2018-02-25/coro-coro-comics-apologizes-for-manga-depiction-of-genghis-khan/.128187
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>>285201492
Noah is a very acceptable Grand Rider.
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>>285201635
>penis joke
I mean that's understandable
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>>285193494
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>>285201635
To be fair, indians sperg out every time a new indian god comes out in FGO and Nasu doesn't give a fuck.
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>>285201685
It all comes in full circle
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is nasu as based as George martin
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>>285193506
Noel route when?
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>>285201386
And Shirou does Sumo and goes hunting with him occasionally
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>>285193266
>Dead Apostle are on the menu
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>>285201870
He seems like a jolly fellow.
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What is Arc and Ciel doing in this timeline?
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>>285201923
Hard trying to make the first True ancestor/human hybrid
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What is Shirou doing in this timeline?
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>>285201974
Married Taiga
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>>285201923
Guys it just hit me their name is L'Arc-en-Ciel reference after 20 years
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>>285201923
Considering SF takes place in 2009 and TsukiRE in 2014,Arcueid is sleeping in the Millennium Castle Brunestud and Ciel is awaiting orders from the Burial Agency or something
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>>285201865
He's the most reasonable adult figure Shirou has in his life.
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>>285201974
Considering this universe is an hodgepodge of Nasuverse stuff, he is probably a post HA Shirou.
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>>285194441
I bet they will still include the glaze Ciel and those other cunts got dispite it being completely unnecessary
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>>285195044
To appeal to Gilgamesh. The guy who is famous for being a rapist
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>>285195742
I am but it updates so slowly FGO will end before they get to the finish line
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>>285202140
FGO already ended anon..
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>>285197490
I love this "Bad" ending
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Where can i get learning with manga saber pics
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How come humans haven't tried making Knight Arms in modern times?

Surely having a weapon that could battle a Type would be a big deal
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>>285199376
What's Illya even now? Is she actually a fairy or does being a fully realizes True Magic user just let you do whatever the plot wants you to
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>>285202210
You need Grain to make a Knight Arms
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the dub for this is Baccano-tier
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>>285199376
Prillya lost me when Illya lost MC status
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>>285195511
That's a cool fanfic but you shouldn't be spreading it as legitimate information
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Just saw someone on Twitter saying that Black Keys wouldn't work on Jester but, no, you can totally start with FSF
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>>285202210
Its something inhuman, and most humans aren't attrated to that concept. Also grain is unknown until earth death.
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>>285200946
>Christianity is stated to be a blueprint for Human Order provided to ensure humanity's ultimate victory.
>The timeline where the Church is most active (Tsukihime) is a dead end for humanity
Anon...
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>>285202307
Cute Islamist waif.
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>>285202352
Guda will do that once the inevitable FGOxFSF collab happens. The moment volume 10 drops there will be a collab a few months after just like with FSR
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>>285202352
>tw*tter
why do you even give a shit?
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>>285202404
>The moment volume 10 drops
FGO will EOS before that happens
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>>285202352
Not to defend that abhorrent "character" isn't this exactly how Shirou and Shikifags act?
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>>285202424
>popularity of the game is ATH
>still thinking they will shutdown the game instead of milking it to oblivion
Nips are the Kikes of the east, they will keep on milking FGO until it dries out. Specially now with FSF.
Also, they already announced new content in JP.
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>>285201420
Mother of a character from Fate/Requiem. Ended up being spoiled in character profile in FGO.
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>>285202426
It is. Every, and I mean every, single member of the Fate fandom is like

>"It's OK when my character does it, it's blasphemous and lore-breaking when your character does it"

This includes Nasu himself by the way, since he ended up having Guda fight things that can that have the powerlevel of stars and can destroy the planet. Not the World. The actual, no bullshit planet.

>>285202455
Asians in generals are why there is no Jewish influence in the East, they just out-kike the kikes.
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>>285196028
Funny that Saber kinda agree with Gil here (that is when Gil isn't incarnated in flesh).
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>>285202307
She's going to sicc Grand Azrael on Jester's ass
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>>285202455
Anon it's a joke that vol 10 will never release because FGO will never EOS.....
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>>285193650
He has the same pose as his shadow in the Tsukihime:Re flashback. But with all the demons around, it can only be Jack's From Hell. It may be that Jack took inspiration from Van-Fem from Flat's memories, seeing that the two met in the past.

We should hear Van-Fem's voice either at the end of the season or in the next one.
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>>285201923
>>285202037
Again, FSF Ciel is explicitly OG Ciel since she was present in the 5th HGW in the year 2004. As stated by Ciel's entry in the Himuten mats, her failing to stop Prelati one time is what leads directly to FSF timeline:

>She was sent on a mission to prevent an unknown stalker from getting too close to the Holy Grail War, and she did indeed manage to quash the pest nine out of ten times... but the one bud she failed to pluck later connected in some way to something going on in the United States.

Which wouldn't be possible for Remake Ciel since Remake Ciel died in the year 2002 and woke up in th eyear 2008, and then became active as an executor for 6 years until 2014.
This is why FSF follows the OG Tsuki timeline.
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>>285199090

Ayaka is (or has been planted the memories of) the person who experienced the ghost story in HA about the beaten little girl asking to call the elevator.
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>>285199413
>>285199515
>Secret Archer route in the after time of F**
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>>285200882
>Goetia
He wouldn't do shit to Arc due to the Inner Sea remaining intact after the Incineration. As for his plan, lol
>Goetia, the First Beast. He who attempted to surpass the breadth of the planet via Retroflow. What a foolish deed... No matter how much energy or fortuity you manage to gather up, celestial conception cannot be achieved by that which is not an egg.

He is the biggest clown of all.
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>>285198524
Kirei as a priest before he got Grail bullshit was strong but not really to out there, he was gifted but that's all.
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>>285202626
Point of order: The incineration itself was just like, phase 1 of the plan. Not the actual threat to the planet itself. Also.

>trusting Arc

She'd have more of a point if she didn't get clowned on herself so much by Roa, Shiki, Ciel and other characters she should've theoretically swatted aside like leaves.
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>>285202352
Isn't Guda's summoning using prana provided directly from Chaldea's systems? Obviously anyone would stomp the grail war with infinite energy
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>>285202745
>She'd have more of a point if she didn't get clowned on herself so much by Roa, Shiki, Ciel
This is basically Nasu sharing lore on planet eggs, there is zero narrative point to Arc being wrong here.
Also, in regards to getting clowned, Goetia not only lost to Guda, he also lost to Daybit and Kirschtaria (multiple times at that) in Maris' simulations. Nasu stated even Kadoc can beat him with LB Anastasia
He also failed in the Melty Blood timeline
So the guy has far more failures under his belt than Arc ever did
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These threads might finally get me to get my ass to get TsukiRe actually read. It's been fun with all the Type-Moon autism.
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>Faldeus and Orlando grab Francesca by the wrists
>Pale Rider is controlling Tsubaki's parents
>Zealot avoids Jester's hand
So many neat details in the ED
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>>285202834
is this a girl (boy)?
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>>285198407
Basically they hate mages because they don't see magecraft as the sacred works of god, but a personal tool for their benefit.
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>>285198176
>Bazdilot
"It cost 2000 taiwanese orphan to fire this servant for 10 seconds"
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>>285200519
Canonically it's Herc, but for meme purposes it's Moses whose punch equals Excalibur in power and split the Red Sea
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>>285202833
Will be fun to see how other characters fit into it
>True archer forced next to true rider
>Sigma fucking crowded (also moved between Zealot and Jester)
>True Assassin never shows up at all, like not even a pixel of him.
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>>285202834
UOHHHHHHHHHHH
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>>285202745
>She'd have more of a point if she didn't get clowned on herself so much by Roa, Shiki, Ciel and other characters
Wasn't she also beating the shit out of them in the vn?
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>>285202799
>there is zero narrative point to Arc being wrong here.
I mean you say that, but nobody predicted fucking UnBeasts either based on everything said about Beasts beforehand. Or Beasts being able to just...be allies of humanity if they want it enough.

>Daybit and Kirsch
Considering how retardedly, lore-breakingly powerful both of them are I hardly consider it "jobbing" anymore than the dinosaur version of Arc "jobbed" to a vastly weaker version of ORT just trampling over her. I completely believe either of them could find a way to kill Arc too.

>far more failures
In sheer numbers yes, the guy only succeeds in FGO's timeline and only then retroactively because Marisbilly literally broke time to accomplish his own goals. But I'd argue the sheer scope of Arc's failures far dwarfs his. Not only did she lose a fight to Ciel, Roa Tohno, who should be dust to her regardless of any excuses, but she lost to Gilgamesh in Melty Blood. GILGAMESH. THE jobber.
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>>285202834
Foursome with Francesca, Hokusai and Bakin.
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>>285202759
Chaldea has:
1) generators that supply insane amounts of mana
2) Merlin supplying mana from Avalon
3) Grails collected are being used as mana
Furthermore, Chaldea tech can refresh CS once a day.
Furthermore, IM skill on beasts etc is like IA on steroids
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>>285202941
The fact that Ciel has a route at all where she wins is frankly embarrassing for the level of power Arcuied has been retconned to have, where it turns out if she got her bloodlust under control she could literally fling the Earth at the moon or vice versa.

Also how quickly forget the ole

>OH MY IDEA BLOOD POWER THAT LETS ME FLY WITH LIGHTNING AT YOUR EVANGELION REFERENCE FORM WITH A KNIFE
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>>285202973
What about Gogh and Molay? Also Da Vinci.
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>>285203008
Da Vinci is shit, I don't really care about Molay, and Gogh straight-up doesn't fit the pattern.
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>>285202799
Also I just thought of someone who disproves Arc: Ziz, from Case Files. Who was a human mage that successfully turned himself into a planet before Waver and co. stopped him, with merely his own magecraft.
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>>285202962
>I mean you say that, but nobody predicted
Not relevant to the point. The point being you don't infodump information that's meant to be wrong unless it actually has a purpose. And there is no purpose to Arc being wrong here.
Obviously this has no bearing to new concepts being introduced that people haven't predicted like Unbeasts.
>Considering how retardedly, lore-breakingly powerful both of them are
Neither do I consider Arc losing to Roa, Shiki and Ciel under circumstances. Especially when those three are arguably far more competent and special than Kirschtaria and Daybit with how lore-breakingly conmpetent and ridiculous they're.
>the dinosaur version of Arc "jobbed" to a vastly weaker version of ORT just trampling over her
A Dino Arc that had zero fighting capabilities or means to defend herself, or even the will to do it really. It's irreelevant.
>I believe either of them could find a way to kill Arc too.
I definitely don't. Not in a real fight anyway. Especially when Arc is far more powerful than Goetia since she has control over all the things he wanted to obtain, like "control over the principles of life and death and the laws governing atomic matter" are explicitly things an Archetype has full control over per Tsuki no Sango.
>But I'd argue the sheer scope of Arc's failures far dwarfs his.
>Not only did she lose a fight to Ciel, Roa Tohno, who should be dust to her regardless of any excuses,
She didn't even lose to Ciel considering the Luminary was a thing. She lost to Roa after being cripplingly weakened by the MEoDP and Tohno killed via a surprise attack but the guy is basically 1# in terms of assassination skills since his skills in assassination are stated to be just as rare as his MEoDP.
And this still won't matter, because the one making that remark about Goetia is A3 Arc, the perfect what-if Arc who's never made any mistakes.
>but she lost to Gilgamesh in Melty Blood. GILGAMESH. THE jobber.
What the fuck are you talking about bro?
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>>285202973
Threesome with Aphrodite and Ishtar
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>>285202980
I don't consider Ciel getting fucked over by Luminary Arc to be a win in Ciel's favor.
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>>285203062
We have no idea if Ziz would have succeeded but he wasn't going to do the same shit as Goetia. Since his goal was to borrow a portion of the planet to make an isolated artificial planet somewhere else. As opposed to becoming the planet by getting in the way of it's natural evolution
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>>285203042
How about uh that tea guy combined with a princess.
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>>285203122
Rape.
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>>285202980
>where it turns out if she got her bloodlust under control she could literally fling the Earth at the moon or vice versa.
It's like you said,if she was in actual top condition she'd be able to do all that but within the timeframe of Tsukihime she's gimped and even then Ciel route shows it still takes a lot to beat her.
I don't know man,it's like saying "why is Ryougi struggling at all against Araya,Fujino and Lio if she can delete their concepts with her root void powers"
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>>285203090
>Especially when those three are arguably far more competent and special than Kirschtaria and Daybit with how lore-breakingly conpetent and ridiculous-
Let me stop you right there. Explain how any of them could deal with Goetia, because I don't buy it.
>Not in a real fight anyway
Anon, Archetype Earth and C.I.E.L. had a real fight in Ordeal Call 3. Archetype Earth lost. Archetype fucking Earth. NOT ARCUIED.
>She didn't even lose to Ciel
Losing to Roa and Tohno isn't a good look either based on what Ms. "controls the laws of life/death and atomic matter" is supposed to be capable of, berserk super form or not.
>What the fuck are you talking about bro?
Liz oneshot him in Extra/CCC.
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>>285203193
The fact that she can be gimped at all and do so little with that gimped power is pathetic. Even 1/72nd of Goetia is powerful enough to manipulate the power of 7 supernovas into a massive summoning spell.
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Are all Muslims this cute?
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>>285203255
She's probably parsi/persian if I'm getting the assassin HQ's location right, so take that as you will.
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>>285203255
Hundred Faces is kinda ugly
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>>285203255
Most servants are idealized versions of what they really are in life.
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>>285202352
Doesn't even need to summon since he's strong enough to carry the weight of a planet for a few minutes kek
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>>285203255
>>285203338
Assassin in particular must've been hideous. It is stated that she underwent HEAVY body modification to emulate the different zabaniyas, so by the end of it she probably looked like some medieval muslim frankenstein with even worse stuff under the skin. The summoning restores her body and just assumes she can do the Zabaniyas as spells because that's her story.
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>>285203230
>Let me stop you right there. Explain how any of them could deal with Goetia, because I don't buy it.
Again, Goetia is beatable by freaking Kadoc with LB Anastasia and you're wondering how Ciel or Roa could do it? Under the same circumstances as Kirschtaria and Daybit found themselves in which assumes backup from Chaldea and their own Servants? They definitely could. Roa in particular has been stated to have magecraft skills on par with Grand-ranked magi.
Though to be fair to Goetia I believe Solomon killing himself to make Goetia lose his immortality is something that happens in the simulations they underwent.
>Anon, Archetype Earth and C.I.E.L. had a real fight in Ordeal Call 3. Archetype Earth lost. Archetype fucking Earth. NOT ARCUIED.
Bro, that was Servantverse Ciel who is hands down one of the most powerful Servants in the entire game both in lore and gameplay. With the game itself making it clear A3 AE isn't trying her hardest to win and is sandbagging since if she actually wanted to win the fight she would simply smash the Earth with the Moon in a second and kill everyone as Ciel stated, but she didn't want that. She found zero purpose to actually winning that fight, but there was purpose in serving as a surmountable obstacle which is what she did.
And this doesn't freaking matter because A3 AE as a Servant is infinitelly weaker than her real Tsukihime counterpart who explicitly has no limits in power and has a far stronger vessel.
>Losing to Roa and Tohno isn't a good look either based on what Ms. "controls the laws of life/death and atomic matter" is supposed to be capable of, berserk super form or not.
She was dying in her route and Tohno killed her via a surprise attack during daytime, after "finishing a big job" (implied to be Nrvnqsr Chaos). She has those excuses.
>Liz oneshot him in Extra/CCC.
??? You said Arc lost to Gil in Melty Blood. Are you ok bro?
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>>285203230
>Servant Universe character
Anon
They are the highest gag in Nasuverse which includes shit like not-Infinity Stones or 'lmao what if an entire galaxy is a living goddess which could fight and consume another galaxy' or 'I point my spear at you and now you and your entire planet is inside an event horizon zone'.
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>>285203250
>The fact that she can be gimped at all and do so little with that gimped power is pathetic
She got killed by the MEoDP. Any other character would not be able to even come back from that, let alone being gimped by it.
Arcueid also has to deal with bloodlust which is explicitly a far larger issue than merely being gimped since bloodlust grows in power with factors like love and emotions. Which makes sense since she is a far more complex character than Goetia.
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>>285203250
>The fact that she can be gimped at all and do so little with that gimped power is pathetic
Being able to teleport every single living thing into the reverse side of the world in that bad end despite her circumstances is a impressive feat.



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