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Volume 42
The Secret of the Mangekyō…!!
Chapter 382: The True Choice!!

Previous chapter: >>285185886

Start: https://desuarchive.org/_/search/boards/a.desu.meta/subject/Daily%20Naruto%20Chapter/filter/text/page/11/
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>>285212001
There's something funny about Jiraya thinking about how he's figured it out while a mob of pains are stomping on him.
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>>285212096
Would he have succeeded if he didn't just run away from the village and do nothing?
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I don't like this anime/manga trope with long contemplations during death scenes. Feels like it's just draining the intensity out of it.
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>>285212223
What a happy kek
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>>285212201
>>285212223
>Fishpaste-roll is such a wonderful name, can we give it to our child too
>No man that's terrible it was a literal afterthought
>Too bad already signed the birth certificate. Thanks, godfather Jiraiya.
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Would you want your death scene to be about Naruto?
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>>285212124
Despite not liking Narutos final arc overall other than some key awesome moments here and there, I still think it's a masterpiece. Even though it directly contradicts what my favorite character is saying here... I kinda wish kishi would do some kinda rewrite for the war arc. It had so much potential
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B&W in a few
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Breh
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>>285212389
>chakra information transfer directly to the brain stem
One last asspull ability before he dies
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>>285212373
>>285212389
>comes back to life after heart stops by pure willpower
What level of feat is this?
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>>285212175
>>285212201
>>285212223
>>285212244
If it was the Minato before Narutofication
>Lord Minato! Your Wife it's urgent!
>What is it, I'm busy!
>Your wife is giving birth!

>What is it? Why do you need me here? You can give birth on your own right? I'm going off on another SSS rank mission.
>Please! Minato! Don't you want to at least look at your child!
>Tsk. Yea, he's mine alright.
>W-Would you name him for me?
>Minato was getting a bit hungry so he thought of Ramen.
>"Naruto"
>"Naruto Uzumaki"
>That's lovely, Mina-*blink away*
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>>285212373
>>285212389
>They just leave Pa and leave, knowing full well it can tell Konoha what happened.
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>>285212272
Jiraiya, you weren't there for half of these things
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>>285212325
>obsessed about learning every jutsu in the world
>only ever use the same snake fuckery no jutsu with the occasional summon or resurrection

>kakashi copied and learned basically every jutsu and had the elemental affinity to use most of them
>only ever uses raikiri and its variations

>other uchiha had the ability to copy jutsu too
>only ever use jobber flames and sharingan hacks

>jiraya is shown to be able to use jutsus of different elements and styles to adapt in different situations
>teaches naruto a bigger rasengan

>third hokage is known as the professor for mastering every jutsu in konoha
>off all jutsu he knows he picks a roof tile shuriken kage bunshin (????) jutsu of all things against orochimaru, then proceeds to do nothing other than summon and death god seal
what's up with this shit
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>>285212124
>I wish I could have died like each of the hokage
I don't think you wanted to end up dying from fighting some literal who Kumo jobbers, Jiraiya.
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>>285212574
Kishimoto being a lazy hack
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>>285212583
Kumo has the most powerful jobbers.
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>>285212410
ARIGATO, OUR LEADER!
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>>285212124
Does he know?
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>>285212389
Couldn't he just reverse summon to get out of there like Sauce did with Manda?
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>>285212001
>>285212024
>>285212047
>>285212389
Faggot got what he deserved.
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>>285212677
Jiraiya is not as skilled as Sasuke.
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>>285212375
>Even though it directly contradicts what my favorite character is saying here
No it doesn't.
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I just realized what a pathetic state Konoha is in when their Hokage (strongest ninja) is a 50 year old drink gambler hooker, and the entire village jobs to a single dude.
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>>285212124
> I wish I could have died like a hokage

next time don’t run into a 6v1 then?
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>>285212069
>A shinobi's life not measured by how they lived but rather what they managed to accomplish before their death
That's the same thing you hack
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>>285212223
Imagine being named after a ramen condiment.
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>>285211983
ARIGATO, OUR LEADER!
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>>285212513
please take your medication
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>>285212410
why do you always spoiler quote
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>>285212677
No. Fukasaku or Shima would have to do it like like one of them did with Naruto later on.
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>>285212574
Oro at least had the excuse of his hands being sealed. The rest are bullshit though.
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>>285212762
>when their Hokage (strongest ninja) is a 50 year old drink gambler hooker
Guy isn't the Hokage.
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>>285212901
He could've just had Ma teleport back to the Toad Mountain and then have her reverse summon him there.
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>>285212574
>only ever use the same snake fuckery no jutsu with the occasional summon or resurrection
He had the soul of his arms taken from him for most of the series.
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>>285212223
kushina toes..
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>>285212953
Yeah, but Jiraiya wanted to stay to learn Pain's secret. He'd only want to go back after that, but there was no time since the Pain's jumped him as soon as he discovered it.
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>>285212272
Jiraya was a very flawed man. But he was also the closest thing Naruto had to a positive male role model. He stepped up when very few others would have.
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>>285213020
Don't think that's Kushina.
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>>285212389
F.
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>>285212571
Frogs are innocent.
Pain isn't heartless.
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>>285213104
It shot a waterbeam that split his chameleon in two.
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Fin
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>>285212373
He tanked that
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>>285213032
>But he was also the closest thing Naruto had to a positive male role model.
Enough gaslighting Kishimoto.
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>>285212244
Godfather is a bad TL for this concept because it denotes a kind of moral and legal responsibility that Jiraiya wouldn't have in the Japanese.
Nazuke-oya is the "naming parent", which is something important, but it isn't the same as Godfather at all.
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>>285212223
Minato could have done better.
She's ugly.
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>>285212389
>naruto.... you are the messiah
Sure.
After your first 6 all failed, I'm sure the Seventh Student will be the right one.
Is there a messiah gacha machine somewhere out there?
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>>285213259
Don't be rude.
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>>285213217
It does make Jiraiya seem a bit less shitty. I know Kishi didn't plan ahead, but it was always dumb how everyone just forgot/didn't mention how Kushina was the previous 9-Tails host and wife of the 4th Hokage. The way Jiraiya treats Naruto in his introduction is also weird in hindsight since he supposedly named him.
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>>285212762
That's what happens when you genocide your strongest clan and the senjew genes are too weak to carry the village.
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>>285213209
I completely forgot, when was the last time iruka even appeared in the series? He got completely sidelined after the time skip
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>>285212932
Guy is only the strongest when he uses a jutsu that kills himself. Having a Kage who isn’t that strong in base would be terrible.
>>285212342
Imagine naming your kid cilantro.
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>>285213259
Sakura with red hair
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>>285213156
It got better.
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>>285213259
I agree. I guess in that sense, Naruto really was like his father
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>>285213311
It goes back to Kishi's prototype for the series. Naruto initially was the demon itself. It never really made sense for him to be so ostracized and hated as just it's container.
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>>285212779
No.
Its the difference between being the kindest peasant vs a tyrant that carved out an empire that would last hundreds of years.
The former is a 'failure' in terms of accomplishments, the latter is a 'success' in terms of accomplishments.
Shinobi aren't measured by morals or by method, but by their material achievements and consequences.
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>>285213314
And yet they're were still magnitudes more powerful than the other villages.
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>>285213302
>your first 6
Oh yeah, there were Minato's teammates, too.
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>>285212069
>>285212096
>>285212124
Jiraiya is probably Kishimoto's best character.
He and Kakashi are his best work, imo.
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>>285212096
kya minatosama
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>>285213259
>Minato could have done better.
this
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>>285212513
I agree that Kishimoto changed his plan for Minato (his early depictions are all pretty surly or smug in a way that seemed to parallel part 1 Sasuke).
But your post is insane.
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>>285213311
>It does make Jiraiya seem a bit less shitty.
Not really, considering how he ignored the kid he was a "godfather" to for the first 12 years of his life, and only happened to meet him on pure happenstance.
Or was there an actual reason for him not meeting Naruto earlier and I'm misremembering?
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>>285213324
>Guy is only the strongest when he uses a jutsu that kills himself.
7th gate Guy would be enough to beat Tsunade.
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>>285213315
iirc he appears in a few chapters again.
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>>285213311
Jiraiya literally forgot who Kushina was.
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>>285213315
>when was the last time iruka even appeared in the series?
Kazekage rescue arc
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>>285212660
After he thought he killed his boyfriend, Hashirama just despawned.
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>>285212762
Konoha jobbed to Pain because Guy wasn't there
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>>285213396
Yeah, Jiraiya is definitely a cut above most Kishimoto characters with only a mere portion of the screentime.
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>>285212175
fucked perspective or kitchen for midgets?
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>>285213370
Kumo could have wrecked Konoha.
A and B together have almost zero counters other than Gai nuking himself.
And after them Darui is a beast himself.
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>>285213350
>It never really made sense for him to be so ostracized and hated as just it's container.
Irl people hate those merely connected to those they hate. It makes sense Naruto is hated.
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>>285213444
>Or was there an actual reason for him not meeting Naruto earlier and I'm misremembering?
The same reason Jiraiya is always conveniently missing: he was "gathering intel".
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>>285213396
>Jiraiya is probably Kishimoto's best character.
Nah. Jiraiya not teaching Naruto shit after 3 years ruined his character. Also making Jiraiya do jack shit in the first 3 arcs of part 2 made his character even worse.
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>>285212698
Itachi... we already know you would beat Jiraiya... no need to rub it in...
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>>285213451
Doubt it. The Gates are weird in scaling from each level up. 5 and 6 would be easy to deal with, 7 is harder but not completely unmanageable. She has Katsuya and healing, with pretty tremendous strength.
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>>285213581
Hiruzen had the excuse of being old and busy as a Hokage but at some point Konoha just stacked too many strong guys so the plot has to write them out for them to not solve everything

>>285213032
Flawed, sure, I wouldn't say "very flawed" though. He enjoyed his girls and his booze but he was a very important father figure to Naruto, and we'll see just how much in the next chapters.
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>>285212223
milky booba!!
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>>285213558
Guess it depends what point in time we use. If Konoha characters have their war arc buffs they win easy, at the time A and B are introduced they might win. If we assume they were the same strength before, it's also the same at any point before, especially before Yugito got captured I guess.
Still, they were unable to do anything against Akatsuki.
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>>285213339
Cope harder pinkshitter
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>>285213396
Nah. Kakashi, Guy and Tobirama are the only well written characters.
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>>285213615
Kek no. 7 gates guys low diffs Tsunade
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>>285212729
And by that I mean war Sasuke could maybe beat base Jiraiya (high diff).
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>>285213650
>Tobirama
If he won that One-Shot competition, Kishimoto would have revealed he invented wiping your ass and cooking your food.
Utterly ridiculous character.
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>>285211983
SAKON DOKO?!?!
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>>285213638
Ignoring this is fanart, I openly admit Hinata has a 10/10 body, but a 5/10 face and a 3/10 personality.
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Was this the better death?
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>>285212175
Why is there a palm tree inside Minato's house?
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>>285213594
These are plot holes, not issues stemming with the character himself. Canonically he taught Naruto everything he could in 3 years.

If we're going with that, EVERYONE in this manga is a 0/10 character, starting with Kakashi for not discussing clone training with Naruto on the very first day.
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>>285213558
Erm ackshually Hiruzen was said to be the strongest of the 5 kage, he'd beat A while 7th gate Guy fights Bee.
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>>285213748
>Canonically he taught Naruto everything he could in 3 years
So...a bigger rasengan?
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>>285213650
>kakashit and tobiratman
Get the fuck out with these horrible opinions
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>>285213615
>with pretty tremendous strength
Tsunade doesn't do anything comparable picrel
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>>285213655
6 Gates fought to a standstill with Kisame playing an NPC at 30%. Guy is not low diffing her unless he activates his suicide jutsu.
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>>285213783
Yes. You're supposed to accept this is what Naruto could achieve within this power system in 3 years. You're also supposed to accept that Kakashi is the first guy to ever think of shadow clone training even though it seems obvious.

Basically, and that might surprise you, this is a manga for children.
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>>285213786
Go ahead and give your's
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>>285213558
Don't forget their moon busting chakra cannon from the last movie, which they always had.
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>>285213793
>Kisame tanked that
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>>285213748
>Canonically he taught Naruto everything he could in 3 years.
He couldn't tell Naruto that his clones share his experience? He couldn't have given him a piece of paper so Naruto could learn what his chakra nature is? He couldn't have told Naruto about sage mode and brought him to the mountain to be trained by the frogs?
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>>285213857
Like the anon said, those are plot holes.
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>>285213558
Jiraiya can take A while Guy/Hiruzen take B, and that leaves you with a few jonins for people like Darui. Tsunade replaces Hiruzen later.
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>>285213839
>lost the fight
>tanked
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>>285213797
And what did 7 gates guy do Kisame and Madara?
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>>285213857
>He couldn't tell Naruto that his clones share his experience?
To be fair, it's hard to believe Naruto never picked up on this himself. It was clearly a retcon.
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>>285213793
>Scale damage
Madara got killed by Zetsu while being able to tank other guys
Tsunade one shotted a summon that tanked Deidara’s C4 and saved Sasuke’s ass and one punched a guy that took 4 Tails Naruto punches (same 4 Tails nearly killed Jiraiya btw)
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>>285213857
>He couldn't tell Naruto that his clones share his experience?
Like i said, you're supposed to believe Kakashi is the first guy in this world to think of that, because this world operates on children comic book logic.

>>285213886
Next punch ended him actually (and even then dude was moving later)
Kisame is a beast
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>>285213893
7 gates guy one-shot Kisame and destroyed Madara's susanoo.
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>>285213793
>the main appeal of Lee and Guy is that they can't use ninjutsu or genjutsu and have to rely on brute strength, but Guy can just summon a massive ki blast with his fist that acts like a Kamehameha wave, aka pretty much a pseudo ninjutsu
Fuck, I hate this shit so much.
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>>285213874
And Jiraiya wasting time fighting a jobber snake and not helping save Hiruzen from Oro was a plot hole too?
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>>285213879
If Hiruzen is alive you gotta deal with Yugito as well.
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>>285213916
And what was the most Tsunade could do to Madara's Susanoo?
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>>285213793
What possible situation could Guy have used this move before where Yamato would have full information about everything it does, but we, the viewers, would not have seen already? The last War? You're telling me people were fucking with Konoha when a dude who solo'd the entire Rock army was the Hokage and you had a dude dropping budget biju bombs casually was around?
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>>285213906
>Madara got killed by Zetsu
No he didn't. And Zetsu was using Obito's body to stab Madara anyway, so it wasn't just Zetsu.
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>>285213934
Guy has always been able to use ninjutsu since his very first introductory scene.
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>>285213947
Yeah you can dispatch them. They have possibilities. Would be an interesting fight, which I think both sides don't want.
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>>285213937
Yes. You have to consider authorial intent on some level. Of course, just because Kishimoto says something doesn't make it true, eg: Kishimoto says Itachi is a hero despite him being a mass murdering psycho cuck. But when it comes to the mechanics of the world rather than the content of these characters it's different. We can tell Itachi is a psycho based on the choices he explicitly made as described by Kishimoto, we can't tell Jiraiya is trying to kill his master just because Kishimoto conveniently wrote him off fighting jobber snakes at the border of the village. We can't say Ebisu is trying to get Hiruzen killed because he didn't report Jiraiya was in town and could help dealing with Oro.
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>>285213934
Guy can use summoning
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>>285213934
>Introduce Lee as a hardworker/prodigy who can only use taijutsu, but is super strong with it.
>Actually his master who has no such disabilities is also a master of Taijutsu, #1 in the world in fact (better than lee could ever be) and is a master of some of the most top tier ninjutsu's in the series
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>>285213934
Don't forget it also completely breaks the rules of the world and was nearly the only way Kisame could be defeated.
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>>285214033
>everytime a character I like displays character flaws it's a plot hole
Cope
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>>285214081
Someday I'll accept that this board is largely filled with actual mouthbreathing sub 80 IQ subhumans and stop wasting time with your kind
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>>285213396
Kakashi is fine for the most part.
Him still calling Obito a hero during their fight in the war after he learned he was the fake Madara and was responsible for all the horrid shit he's done is pretty terrible. I also think it's stupid how he actually agrees with taking Naruto to the 5ks so he could beg the raikage to not kill Sasuke, as if he didn't already know that was a fruitless endeavor.
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>>285214119
I got what you meant anon, your posting was not wasted.
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>>285214081
Rajsuke coded post
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>>285212698
true
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>>285214119
I agree sister, reddit is so much better, we should go back there immediately
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>>285214126
>spoiler
I can't fucking wait until we get to this chapter.
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>>285212175
Was Minato also reading Jiraiya's erotic novels?
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>>285214150
Crazy how good the 2020 storytime was compared to this. It has to be Rajsuke singlehandedly tanking these threads.
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>>285213638
>filler
brother. do better
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>>285214119
Go back
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>>285214206
Naruto tanked that btw.
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>>285214206
Kek this is some Netflix tier shit.
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>>285214206
Is this more or less pathetic than Thorfinn doing it?
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>>285213688
>fanart
It's from the anime
>but a 5/10 face
You're a homosexual.
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>>285212096
>unable to protect my teacher
he literally watched Orochimaru kill Hiruzen and did nothing
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>>285214119
You definitely overestimate yourself
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>>285214248
>>285214250
Honestly I never got why people thought it was so pathetic. Begging the Raikage, sure, that's kind of pathetic and the Raikage also was right. But this was what Naruto wanted, he wanted to take the punishment for Sasuke. Also because no wars no cycle of revenge bullshit.
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>>285214119
You are arguing with the actual sub 80 IQ spammer. You can tell by his usage of "jobber" and "cope" in reply to you. He only has a limited english vocab so he always falls back into sounding like a retard.
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>>285214264
No no anon you don't get it it's a le plothole
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>>285214206
This moved Karui up by one tier in my females ranking.
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>>285213688
Trvth Nvke
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>>285214291
>But this was what Naruto wanted, he wanted to take the punishment for Sasuke.
Yeah, that's what was pathetic.
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>>285214293
It's schizos like you that make these threads insufferable.
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>>285214293
Yeah, you can also tell with the samefagged responses.
It's not that these threads average poster got worse, it's that there's one guy shitting all over the place. And because /a/ is less active he can actually singlehandedly take these threads to bump limit with his mongoloid tier posts.
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>>285214358
In the end he didn't have to dump volumes to ruin dailies for everyone. He just had to be himself.
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>>285214348
Jobber coping detected
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>>285214348
He's just baiting anon. Pretty sure he's just talking to himself to get (You)s.
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>>285213259
>She's ugly.
No. Minato is just too handsome so Kushina looks bleak standing next to him. Her, having Naruto's features doesn't help too.
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>>285213688
Hinata is an upper tier butterface with oneitis, making her an ideal woman. Facially she is not stacking up to Sakura, Ino, Tsunade, or Temari. Rtn Hinata is better too.
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>>285214126
Kakashi understands Obito want his death match and is choosing not to repeat what he did with Sasuke. Obito is consistent with Gaara and Neji having base urges and schizophrenia.
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>>285214408
>Her, having Naruto's features
Must be why she makes me so hard
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>>285214291
>Begging the Raikage, sure, that's kind of pathetic and the Raikage also was right
I mean, how is this any different from the raikage scene. It more or less sends the same message.
>AAAAAAAIIIIIEEEEEEEE PLEASE DON'T MURDER MY RUNAWAY TERRORIST BOYFRIEND JUST WATCH ME GET HUMILIATED INSTEAD
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Another hijack thread full of LLM abuse and samefagging to bloat the post count and nothing is done about it once again. Is this really how the site operates now?
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>>285214456
I think it's different and more dignified because he's at least taking some initiative. He's trying to present himself as the target of their revenge. There's SOME context that'd explain why he'd make that decision other than just his gay boner for Sasuke (he has to stop wars and all). There's a charitable reading of the scene.

The Raikage scene, not so much, it's really just about his boycrush.
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It is so fascinating how waifujeets consistently have the most banal, absolute nothing takes regarding this story, it's like they're just pretending to orbit the characters because they just autistically waddled into the fandom
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>>285214442
>Hinata is an upper tier butterface with oneitis, making her an ideal woman
She would be such a boring person in real life. Might as well just get a fuck doll.
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>>285214442
This revisionism that pinkshit is prettier than Hinata will never work.
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>>285214291
>Naruto hears from these Cloud people that Sasuke joined the Akatsuki and is believed to have killed their jinchiruki, whom the village actually loves
>decides to get the piss kicked out of him to protect an actual traitor who has only not been labeled as such because of blatant favoritism and nepotism.
> This is immediately after the highest point of Naruto's character and the first arc where the manga's protagonist got to actually feel fucking cool for once for the entirety of Part 2 so far
>it's followed by two more back-to-back worst moments in the series, Sakura's fake confession and Naruto pissing, shitting, and crying, begging the Raikage not to declare his psycho traitor terrorist boyfriend a psycho traitor terrorist.
If this chapter came out in the modern Shounen climate Naruto as a character people actually liked would never recover. It'd be the equivalent of Eren melting down and hoping Misa or whatever her name is doesn't get over him too fast after they kill him in infamy. Screencaps of /a/'s reaction would be posted for years in Naruto threads.
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>>285214206
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>>285214442
>>285214495
>>285214498
christ it really is just AI bots, this place is fucked
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>>285212410
can I breastfeed this cute baby?
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>>285214464
To be fair unless mods actually took part in these threads they wouldn't see it. And the guy is likely using multiple devices so the samefagging isn't as obvious. You can get banned for trash tier posts like /pol/ baiting or pepe posting, but Sasjeet's modus operandi is just... hundreds of shitty posts that aren't quite banworthy but obviously tank the quality of these threads, and because they're samefagged to death they erase the good posters.
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>>285212223
It's like someone naming their kid meatball because there was a character in a book with that name
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>>285214511
>Naruto as a character people actually liked would never recover. It'd be the equivalent of Eren melting down and hoping Misa or whatever her name is doesn't get over him too fast after they kill him in infamy.
The difference is Eren's cringe was at the very end of the story and that was the last development from his character. Naruto still had like 200 chapters after his gay meltdown, so people could forget about it, but it's clearly still ridiculed to this day.
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>>285214535
Sam my beloved
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>>285214511
I am an old fag and people like Sasuke cause he gets to join the Akatsuki and do cool stuff, but disappointed he joined after Pein got killed. Naruto and Sakura developed without him with Sai.
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>>285213015
wow, he truly SUCKS.
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>>285214511
I agree a lot of Naruto wouldn't survive modern day. Just saying I don't understand why people think the Karui beatdown scene gets so much attention, it's like people think this isn't exactly what Naruto asked for.
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>>285213032
Irukabros, Kakashibros... We're terrible role models...
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>>285214591
That's just blonde Hinata
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>>285214591
The hero we needed.
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Got I can't wait for Raikage scene hehe.
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>>285213650
>Kakashi and Godirama
Absolute kino taste
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>>285214511
>Cloud people
What do you mean by that
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>>285214358
And he regurgitates the same topics thread after thread.
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>>285214591
Did she ever have a Bortspawn
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>>285212325
>The most important talent for a shinobi is not the number of jutsu (in which I'm far superior to you btw)
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>>285214498
She has been called pretty in-story, this isn’t revisionism. Sakura being called ugly is mainly people just not liking her.
>>285214543
Blah blah blah everything is AI or a curryshitter. Can you retards at least talk about anything resembling Naruto instead of making these metaposts that add nothing? I don’t like forced engagement in threads, but you guys calling out some schizo retard like you’re clever are just grating.
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>>285214589
Goku had a mental breakdown after watching Krillin get murdered. Its just that Goku doesn't cry and it's agreed to be a death sentence since you're stuck with a guy with a lot of power and no morals
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>>285214609
>Sai
Most pointless character.
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>>285214511
>If this chapter came out in the modern Shounen climate Naruto as a character people actually liked would never recover
Only /a/ gets triggered by shit like this.
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>>285214582
but we have character names like Scarecrow, Fang, Port. so it's fine in their universe?
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>>285214617
>Just saying I don't understand why people think the Karui beatdown scene gets so much attention
Because in the modern climate the idea of the MC getting beaten up by a black woman would make this place go nuclear and flooded with a billion bait threads and screencaps
Another modern climate example: Yamcha getting his girl stolen and impregnated by Vegeta would decimate him way more than the Saibaman fight, that's just how things are now
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>>285214673
Don't feed him.
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>>285214673
These three posts might not be bots or Rajsuke but denying we have a huge Rajsuke problem that ignoring doesn't solve is admitting you're him (or don't browse these threads).
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>>285214627
Obsessed
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>>285213194
thanks.
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>>285214206
What if instead Naruto lashed out and kicked the Kumogers out of the village instead?
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>>285214673
>She has been called pretty in-story
She's also been called ugly.
>Sakura being called ugly is mainly people just not liking her.
This is cope.
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>>285214673
beep bop bork [simulated_waifu_post] whirrrrr *click*
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>>285214658
What do YOU think when I say Cloud People? Check yourself, Leaf boy.

>>285214685
I mean, yeah, but /dbs/ also sculpted a lot of how modern shounen fandoms function currently.
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>>285214702
I miss better times.
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>>285214690
imo Scarecrow and Fang sound like appropriate names for mercenaries at least, even if they would be weird things to name your child
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>>285214677
I'm so fucking tired of those whiny bitch mcs. Goku and Gon are probably the only mc I like. No I think it's okay to cry for men, but those crashouts don't look believable kek.
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>>285214297
It's a major plothole or we should consider Jiraiya retarded. He knows Orochimaru attacked Naruto and he ignores it completely, he could easily found out and idk tell someone or prepare himself or watch the finals of the Chunin Exams?? It's written like Jiraiya didn't give a shit about the village and now we must believe he did and he tried to save Hiruzen and stop Orochimaru? Kishi is the biggest hack in fiction
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>>285214665
She completely disappeared. A mercy, probably
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>>285214673
Your threads are fake, jeet. Noboody genuine wants to discuss anything in your manufactured thread. All these posts sound the same -- no organic human characteristics, and they just repeat the same shit. Literal bot thread.
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>>285214511
If you're filtered by 5 kage summit arc Naruto you're just not a fan of the character.
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>>285212389
Naruto, you are the chosen one!
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>>285214779
Why are they speaking Mexican?
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>>285214810
kekaroo
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>>285214836
I want to punch Naruto in the face. The shittiest mc ever.
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>>285214810
Why didn't they use these in the land of waves arc?
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>>285214878
I just like Kakashi and Sasuke. That's all. I can't sympathize with that nepobaby bitch.
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>>285214824
I know your only purpose in these threads is to get (You)s so you feel a sense of human interaction, but you could always just fuck off if you don't like the threads. It's clear nobody likes you here.
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>>285214779
>we should consider Jiraiya retarded
Yes.
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>>285214824
>Noboody
*Nobody.

These are the most human posts in your AI thread.
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90% of these threads are just two (one?) schizos samefagging hard, aren't they?
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>>285214975
Don't let the door hit you on the way out!
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>ah Naruto, my 31st student that is mogged by my favorite prodigy Minato and the Rinnegan user Nagato. You are the one I pass the torch to, you are the child of destiny
Did this retard really have to suicide by gangbang to come to that conclusion? Was getting whooped for a few pages really the difference maker between unlocking Pain’s secret instead of surviving and helping out the village? Jiraiya would be a shit Kage.
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>>285214948
What's the opposite of character development? Naruto honestly loses any character he had by the end of the manga. Just a boring Messiah with no feal flaws.
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>>285214948
What changed in Kishimoto's head?
https://desuarchive.org/a/thread/283438138/#q283438400
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>>285214853
Why did Kakashi never fuck her?
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>currently the same age as Kakashi
>sitting and reading about two teenagers calling each other indian
just kill me. i'll finish this manga and will never return...
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>>285215019
He could have run away as soon as more than 1 Pain showed up. Him being alive and providing crucial intel would have helped the village out way more than sending a cryptic dying message. Also doesn't help the sage toad is completely useless at providing any real insight with this encounter.
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>>285214617
>it's like people think this isn't exactly what Naruto asked for.
Yeah, and that's what sucks.
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>>285215058
Why'd you link that?
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>>285214948
>>285215042
>>285215058
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>>285214962
>so you feel a sense of human interaction
Are you literally repeating what others have said to you word for word? Your vocabulary really is limited and you're just resorting to using a machine to do half the work for you (doesn't do any better since a retard can't program something smarter and more sopicated than them, especially when they're feeding it their own retarded crap in the first place).
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>>285215061
I'm older than Kakashi.
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>>285215061
>two
40 to 50% of these threads are one guy, and it happened so many times people can't ignore it anymore.
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>>285214948
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Lm_JCa5r4E
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>>285215058
Popularity got in his head just learnt he can get away with anything he shits out and editor would eat that up. Like Oda with Gear 5 Luffy
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>>285214948
Kek, good comparison.
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>>285214948
My hero!
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>>285215138
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>>285215127
It was this thread's reaction to the exact scene that anon had posted with his comparison. Discussion of how the scene in general just didn't hit the mark because of the context of when and why it happened.
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>people are now pretending naruto hasn't always been a blubbering faggot
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>>285215137
Reminds me when Kishi tried to force the idea Ninja were trained hardened warriors that were supposed to shut off their emotions.
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>>285215137
>crying because your father figure talked about how much he cares for you
>crying because you're a weak bitch and your psycho ex doesn't care about you
Not really a great comparison there.
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>>285215127
What is it?
>>283438138
>>283438400
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>>285213960
Maybe some ANBU stuff.
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Naruto's whining > Boruto's complete neutral reaction towards anything bad happening to him
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>>285215241
Ikemoto loves the constipation face
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>>285214442
>Facially she is not stacking up to Sakura, Ino, Tsunade, or Temari
>Sakura
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naruto hyperventilating over sauce is still the gayest thing ever put on paper
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>>285215157
>>285215227
Again, this is a retarded comparison, because he's crying over someone who could've been his friend dying a miserable death instead of crying because he feels sorry for himself and misses Sasuke.
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>>285215061
>same age as Konan
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It's Gohan's fault. retarded bitch started mc's kid trend.
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>>285215235
>crying because you're a weak bitch and your psycho ex doesn't care about you
So like part 1 Nart?
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>>285215227
I never liked how gay this was. Zabuza becoming moved by this, despite being an actual psychopath who killed people for fun, always seemed like bad development. I get we need the MC to have TNJ, but Zabuza should have told Naruto to grow up and welcome him to the world of being a shinobi.
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>>285214779
Jiraya is ignorant about how the world works. He cannot comprehend bombing villages or terrorists attacks, but he makes Nagato and Konan mellow out while having Minato and Naruto to take them out. Kishimoto forgot Jiraya knew diversions
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>>285215320
Yeah, SRA is when his character started to become retarded.
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>>285215298
He was crying like a bitch because of Sasuke in the final valley.
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Nauto part 1
>I'm le sad because no friends
Naruto part 2
>I'm le sad because my friends!!!!
Sauce part 1
>I wanna kill Itachi, I'm emo
Sauce part 2
>I killed Itachi, but I'm still emo
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>>285215285
Idk...anything involving Sai is always gay
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>>285215317
Gohan did right (until Buu saga ruined him).
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>>285215285
Just a little under a hundred chapters until.
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>>285214617
>it's like people think this isn't exactly what Naruto asked for
And you think him crying and kneeling before the raikage isn't also something he asked for?
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>>285215098
Danzo being a traitorous shit was more of a contribution than Jiraiya dying. Naruto would be dead if he was arrived before Shinra Tensei. The extra minute really didn’t do much.
>>285215320
I don’t mind crying. Crying in doggystyle to spare your friend turned terrorist when your goal is to be ninja president is retarded.
>>285215285
Naruto clutching his heart while watching a shooting star in the night sky is pretty gay. If anything, Kishimoto is a master at escalation of homolust MC.
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>>285214206
Ayo this white boy can take a pounding from the brown queen huh
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>>285215382
>>285215403
kwab
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>>285215386
No because he wanted the Raikage to accept his terms. Meanwhile him asking to be punished in Sasuke's stead is exactly what he got
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>>285215370
>disguises himself as someone else
>ruins that by using one of his own jutsu
Good to see training with a sannin for over 2 years didn't go to waste.
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>>285215410
>Danzo being a traitorous shit was more of a contribution than Jiraiya dying. Naruto would be dead if he was arrived before Shinra Tensei. The extra minute really didn’t do much.
People don't say it enough but sacrificing the village to Pain's Shinra Tensei was the only way they could have won. Danzo saved the world. Tsunade did too by being retarded
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>>285215285
I'm convinced he started pandering to fujos when Yahagi left, his new editors gave him a "brilliant" idea to ruin all shonen manga forever for quick bucks
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>>285215410
>Crying in doggystyle to spare your friend turned terrorist
The conversation wasn't about that scene.
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>>285215137
the right one is still valid, blud got redpilled that his teacher just wasted two years of his life molesting him without teaching him anything
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>>285215410
>Naruto would be dead if he was arrived before Shinra Tensei
There's also no reason Tobi couldn't just abduct Naruto right now, as he's actively just toying with him. Sending Pain is a pointless endeavor.
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Entire team 7 is trash, story would be drastically improved if these characters didn't exist.
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>>285215415
What's the difference, him getting his ass kicked by the girl wouldn't have actually solved anything. No one actually believed all of Kumo would drop their search for Sasuke just because of that. It's just as retarded and nonsensical.
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>>285215308
I don't feel so good...
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>>285215516
The difference is that he gets exactly what he expects in the first scenario. It's way more dignified than impotent begging.
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>>285212779
He means how much as in "he lived a long life"
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Those mental gymnastics in part 2 just prove how important the editor is.
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>>285215509
>the story would be better if there was no story
Very insightful
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Anon #285215509 is trash and the world would be drastically improved if he didn't didn't exist.
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>>285215532
>It's way more dignified
No, it's not, lmao. He still doesn't get anything solved and just comes off as extremely retarded for thinking that humiliating himself like this would change things.
Also, him "getting what he wanted" isn't even true because what he wanted was for the kumo guys to forget about Sasuke by beating him up, which didn't happen.
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>>285215332
Posts like this make me realize just how stupid the average reader is for a series like this.
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>>285215332
Nah, this was an example of TnJ being good, retard.
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At which chapter Yahagi left?
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>>285215490
Tobi accompanying any Akatsuki would be a guaranteed win, except Deidara. I wonder what he was thinking when he put Deidara’s bombs in the ground, knowing Sasuke can see them since he also has the sharingan. Guess he wanted to troll his squad and be an asshole.
>>285215446
Our hero Danzo was Kage material.
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>>285215631
I agree sister! They're much more intellectual at Reddit. We should all go there.
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>>285215634
>this was an example of TnJ being good, retard
Was it, though? Zabuza killed hundreds of his peers and spent his entire life doing that. The only reason this TnJ isn't shat on is because Haku died, the actual Naruto talk shouldn't mean much to Zabuza.
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>>285215634
It's like TnJ'ing some mass murder. Completely retarded, like your IQ. Oh wait, he does this again with every antagonist in the story.
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>>285214198
>>285215670
jobber cope reddit warehouse bunny..
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>>285215575
None of them are vital to the story until the indra and ashura reincarnation bullshit got brought up at the very end
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>>285215631
>/a/non
>the average reader
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>>285213092
cute mommy
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>>285215738
There is no "story" without them. Who the fuck is the MC in your revision?
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>>285215634
It's always good.
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@ all the schizos sperging out about "90% of posts being just 1 guy"
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>>285215692
>>285215722
Haku was the key point, not some idelogical debate. Trying to pretend like Zabuza didn't care about Haku makes you low IQ (mainly for the second anon)
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>>285215766
Madara and Obito carried the whole thing
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>>285215803
The only woman Sasuke would impregnate is the woman he loves: Sakura.
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>>285215332
Zabuza didn't kill people for fun, he rebelled against his village by doing their fucked up culling game 'too well', which forced them to end that program. He later attempted a coup and was regrouping to try again because he wanted to end how things were conducted in the bloody mist village where clans were wiped out. He bragged about his femboy being stronger than himself and his masculinity wasn't threatened by this dynamic because they were really equals and partners.
Land of Waves is so memorable because the antagonists were actually subverted as being gay fellas that cared.
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>>285215812
>Trying to pretend like Zabuza didn't care about Haku
Why would he? He was a psychopath, or did you forget about that? Also, Haku was supposed to be a bear. It's always amusing to watch people try to defend shit writing.
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>>285215861
>Zabuza didn't kill people for fun, he rebelled against his village by doing their fucked up culling game 'too well'
What is this headcannon? Zabuza participated in a class that wasn't even his own. He was constantly portrayed as being some bloodthirsty devil in the village.
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>>285215884
>He was a psychopath
Zabuza had emotions
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>>285215853
>>>>>>loves
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>>285212024
>To boss
No way Kishimoto actually had Jiraiya call Tsunade his boss.
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>>285215951
He's talking about Fukasaku. They're calling him Jiraiya-boy. It's easy to forget but they're Bunta+ tier summons.
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Why does this thread smell like curry when Naruto is a ramen based series?
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>>285212096
>Doesn't include neglecting his godson
Lol
Lmao
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>>285215382
>>285215403
people still hate Sakura after seeing this. look at this broken man
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>>285212325
>MORE FLASHBACKS
OH MY GOD
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>>285212137
impregnating Tsunade? maybe
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>>285212389
Pain is just going to allow him to do that?
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>>285216098
She is over 50
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>>285215370
I still don't know what the point of Sai was. Except to be Ino's future discount Sasuke husband I guess. I did not care about his backstory. I did not care about some orphan raised to be a glowie weapon. Is he just a character that exists to pad pages? Please tell me I'm missing something.
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>>285216130
Hashirama cells
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>>285212660
Jigen killed him
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>>285215910
Zabuza hammed up his own reputation to try to get team 7 to back off.
He was essentially a political dissenter who made it his goal to reform his village and took in someone else damaged by that system so they each had things they wanted to change. The mist had a class system, culling trials and kekkei genkai persecution that he would have ended. He wasn't a psycho doing jobs for hire with no purpose.
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>>285213032
>Positive male role model
He stole Naruto's money to waste it on hooters and had Naruto come out worse in the 3 years they spent together.
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>>285212244
I like how "young" kishi made Jiraiya look in the middle panel. If you look past the usual spiky fur hair and oil forehead plate, you can see a young face under there, despite the usual small irises, there's almost a sparkle.
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>>285213194
>>285212410
Arigatou, OP!
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>>285215984
this.
>>285213113
he visited his disciple. but decided not to check on Naruto even after the kyubi's attack. hmmm.
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>>285216133
I don't know why Kishi thought this story needed not only a discount Sasuke, but a discount Kakashi as well.
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If only Zabuza waited until Mei cleaned up the Hidden Mist, he’d be alive. She is an example of a good ninja president.
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>>285216133
I think a big issue is his design just looks incredibly gay. I never understood how the characters all said he looks like Sasuke, because I never saw it. He was also introduced during the worst arc of the story, which didn't help him or Yamato. Kishi really should have just reused characters we already knew for that arc.
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>>285216155
Did we read the same manga? Zabuza's character was not that deep.
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>>285213194
who took care of naruto's goo goo gaa gaa version?
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>>285214591
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>>285215910
>Zabuza participated in a class that wasn't even his own.
Wtf are you even talking about?
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>>285212451
I've seen it in real life, something similar anyway. Hours before my mother died, it appeared she was going, but then after moments of not breathing she ''willed'' herself back because she insisted on seeing her best friend one last time. We rushed her home, she saw her friend, and then she died some hours later after having had her final conversation with said friends (which gave her a final fulfillment).
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>>285216286
>He was essentially a political dissenter who made it his goal to reform his village and took in someone else damaged by that system so they each had things they wanted to change.
This was all in the manga, speedreader
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>>285216286
Not him, but man, I really don't want to be mean but this shit is all but spelled out to you with all the information Land of Waves puts out and how Zabuza acts at the start compared to the latter half.
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>>285216355
And then everyone clapped?
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>>285216336
Zabuza wasn't even in the academy when he decided to kill everyone there. Go read the manga, silly.
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I'm tired of "well everyone is actually connected" trope. If Naruto continued past 700 chapter then they would make Sakura and Naruto brother and sister Luke and Leia style i just know
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>>285216375
Like, Zabuza isn't actually getting off at how hard he murdered those kids when he was an eight-year old. He's doing a bit to try and get these stupid fucking children outta so he doesn't have to murder them. He just wants his paycheck.
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Part 1 art without Nishio's interventions... I miss you
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>>285216479
...what
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>>285216546
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>>285216266
>I never understood how the characters all said he looks like Sasuke, because I never saw it
I think he resembles hebi Sasuke in being 2 of the gayest designs in the manga. open robe twink vs midriff femboy. similar aloof "cool" demeanor. he was obviously meant as a stand-in for sasuke and just ditched due to being unpopular.
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>>285216479
Good analysis anon. You have to be a retard to see all the nuance in his character and simply go "durrr he's a psychopath because he killed"
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>>285216538
[......]
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>>285216611
Half the time it's not even fucking nuanced. This is a great page, but it's as subtle as a fucking brick with what Kishi is trying to say about the two of them. How the fuck does something like this just fly entirely over someone's head?
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>>285216377
So he killed a bunch of people he had no relationships with. Haku was different because he formed a bond with him by the time he died to save him.
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Do you think Zabuza and Haku ever... you know...?
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>>285215753
Kill yourself pregnancyfag.
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>>285216712
God, did Haku's line at the bottom use to fuck with me.
Most of the anime subs translate it to "you have the same eyes as me", which made think of kekkei genkais because of the sharingan, and that Haku was implying that him and Zabuza have the same kekkei genkai.
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>>285216538
I don't.
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>>285213314
Senju have high durability and Chakra levels whixh seems to be a trait both clans produce in their progeny and in certain individuals who lucked out.
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>>285214442
Temari's face is nothing special really, at least not when compared to the other blondes.
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>>285216723
>because he formed a bond with him
More like his cock formed a bond with his bussy.
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Dragon Ball is better
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>>285216189
>closest thing to a positive male role model
>closest thing
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>>285216822
Imagine being happy that you're a mass murderer for someone.
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>>285216778
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KWI45DOnrOg
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>>285216375
Yeah the system had flaws but holy shit did it produce some of the greatest ninjas in generations
-some village elder.
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>>285216833
Iruka is Naruto's positive male role model.
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Time to pee-pee
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>>285214495
Sounds like protection from you
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>>285216853
IT'S ALMOST LIKE THAT'S THE ENTIRE POINT OF THE MANGA
NINJA ARE TOOLS AND NOT PEOPLE AND IT JUST CREATES MORE PROBLEMS DOWN THE LINE BECAUSE WHEN YOUR KNIFE STARTS TO HATE THAT IT KILLS PEOPLE AND WANTS TO STOP, ALL IT CAN DO IS KILL DIFFERENT PEOPLE BECAUSE IT'S A FUCKING KNIFE.
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can i molest those kids?
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>>285216919
Unless you're Fuu and nobody cares about you
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>>285216611
>replying to yourself
Lol
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>>285216807
The anime would usually detail her irises, which I liked. Temari’s scene with legs is probably making me bias though. I agree that the other blondes are pretty great looking.
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>>285216919
Nardo fought to save this system. Madara was the real hero ?
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>>285216881
Gay dolphin
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>>285214702
>Yamcha getting his girl stolen and impregnated by Vegeta would decimate him way more than the Saibaman fight
That already happened when it came out.
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>>285214743
Sakura was only called ugly by her bullies, Ino (her rival) and a guy that would also call his would-be wife ugly.
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>>285212441
Somehow, it's even dumber than that.
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In retrospect, what made Naruto so successful given its dogshit writing?
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>>285215370
ZAMN
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>>285217144
Sai called her ugly.
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>>285212389
Did knowing the "true identity" of Pain even matter in the end?
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When is kishi gonna milk the series more and give us a proper 3rd great ninja war flashback
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@285217263
Fuck off already schizo
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what's with those retarded questions? kewk
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>>285217365
Speedreader-san...
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>>285215520
It's amazing how fast the years fall away once you hit your 30s, feels like covid was a recent thing but it was over half a decade ago
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>>285217263
Naruto being a proactive madlad and the early punk-ish aesthetic where plucky kids are up against hardened assassins.
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>>285212389
This is a good death scene on its own, but it's just a shame that the circumstances of Jiraiya's death were so contrived.
He knew Pain was Nagato and none of the bodies were the real Pain. He could have retreated and told Konoha that information plainly, and contributed to the fight during Pain's invasion by being alive.
Instead he stayed behind to double check, and could only send a coded message (that there was no guarantee they could even solve). Which Pain just let him send for some reason.
He didn't even tell Ma his suspicion before letting her retreat, which would have been a huge help.
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>>285217453
>Village still has to fight all 6 paths
>No search party sent out until the battle concludes
>Naruto just finds him by sensing him out anyway
Again. Did it even matter?
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>>285217022
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>>285217263
It didn't have any actual competition at the time it aired on television
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>>285217263
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>>285217567
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Do we all agree that Nagato/Pain should have been the final antagonist of Naruto?
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>>285217479
Idk, I agree with the anon from earlier who said these types of deaths where the characters self monologues while dying are really dumb and pretentious. Jiraiya should've had these thoughts while he was still inside that frog.
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>>285217263
Besides Dragon Ball Z, the Chunnin Exams were the original "hype moments and aura" for a lot of people, including myself.
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>>285217637
ben 10?
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>>285217679
lol, lmao even
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>>285217263
What dogshit writing does it have that literally every other anime doesn't have
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>>285217263
It had nice aesthetic and was pretty unique during its time.
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>>285217343
>and a guy that would also call his would-be wife ugly
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>>285217637
Naruto was the next big thing in the U.S right when DBZ/YuYuHakusho/Rurouni Kenshin were essentially finished. All 3 of those and the new Big 3 all aired on the same network so I think a lot of young people were looking for a new shonen to watch since all the older ones were wrapped up. Bleach aired on the latenight hours so it didn't get the same exposure as OP/Naruto, and I think more kids gravitated to Naruto instead of OP for 1 reason or another
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>>285215019
It is pretty sloppy.
After he figured out that the Path he'd beaten was someone he knew, he'd gotten enough material to figure out what was going on at home base. He might not have understood then, but they would have been able to reason it out as a team.

But Jiraiya didn't recognize that yet and went back to get a second look and figured it out fully when it was too late.
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>>285217656
Nope sorry, Pain was actually a servant to that masked Uchiha guy, who was the real leader of the Akatsuki. Also the only reason Pain was so strong was because he was given the eyes of another Uchiha. And also when he gets revived later he gets one-shot by the Uchiha that was his underling who was freed from Edo Tensei's control because of the eyes of another Uchiha. You rike?
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>>285217656
No. I think it should've been Kabuto but Kishi had no idea what to do with him. He could have been the Bakura of Naruto, it did feel like that's how Kishi was setting him up initially.
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>The better timeline where Kishimoto didn't decide to absolutely obliterate Orochimaru's existance and dignity.
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>>285217552
>Naruto just finds him by sensing him out anyway
...because he knew the Pains weren't his actual body so he looked for the real one speedreader-san.
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>>285217263
first arcs were decent until sauce left and it came out when culture was different
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>>285217764
Yes. And?
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>>285214408
If Naruto has Kushina’s face and we all agree Naruko mogs every female character… the only drawback of Kushina is gaudy red hair.
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>>285217656
Yes.
Obito has no aura. Dude sucks.
Madara has aura, but the story had already gotten too retarded by that point.
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>>285217935
It means i already mentioned Sai in the first post.
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>>285217650
I want p1/p2 Mitarashi Anko to rub her sweaty kunoichi soles in my face!
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>>285217824
>uchihas singlehandedly carrying the entire story while everyone else is npc reactionary
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>>285217825
I feel like Kabuto being the final villain after Pain would have been half assed. You'd need to justify him and build him up earlier

He feels like the Obito to Orochimaru's Madara
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>>285213396
Kakashi is very overrated
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>>285217959
Kakashi and Anko would have been a pretty nice match. Their personalities compliment each other very well.
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>>285213315
He’s like an old man last we saw him. Considering his already jobber status long before that there is probably not much reason for him to be involved in anything.
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>>285217656
The structure should be Pain Arc, an arc where Naruto becomes hokage and an arc that tests Naruto as hokage.
Pain can be revisited in the final arc where Naruto doesn't get such an easy out as the final Pain giving way to his ideals, he has to actually prove his results.
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>>285217954
So you admit she's ugly.
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>>285217656
No. Sasuke was fine as the final antagonist.
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>>285218069
Then so would be Ino because Sai also thought she was ugly.
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>>285215345
Damn, almost like he actually gives a shit about something. Weird.
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>>285218064
>where Naruto becomes hokage
Stopped reading there. You always say this in these threads it's retarded everytime.
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>>285218101
No since far more people call Sakura ugly.
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>>285217970
I mean, i would have been fine with Orochimaru being the final, but Kishi made him look pathetic with all the Uchiha wank
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>>285218161
Notice how the other people who called Sakura ugly were women.
3/4 of them being objectively uglier than her.
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>>285215370
And Kishi was surprised Sai wasn’t more popular. Whay does that say about Kishi?
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>>285218161
Sakura also gets the most compliments in the story so it balances out.
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>>285218208
that he's a hack
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>>285218208
You say that like this manga doesn't coast on fujo appeal
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>>285218131
The point is retard he's always cried about him since pt.1.
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>>285218220
Not really. She's ugly. Both canonically and from a viewer perspective.
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>>285218281
First shonen protagonist?
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Zabuza... jobbed... to... dogs...
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>>285218064
So, Akatsuki/Pain invasion like in the original.
Tsunade maybe dies? Naruto defeats Pain, but Rain and Akatsuki is still at large.
Naruto becomes the Hokage.

In this version Nagato isn't bedridden and can fight on his own, but chose to use puppets. We get the "war" arc but with Nagato and Kabuto in charge.

Did I get that right?
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>>285218300
>Not really
And why would that be?
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>>285212421
LOL
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>The reply speed is getting slower need to bait people more
>umm guys... sakura is shit. haha.
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>>285218135
It would make a fuck ton more sense than a final arc with zombies and aliens.
The "there's no shortcuts to becoming hokage" guy having the role dumped on him. I know why Kishimoto didn't go that route because there's a lot of Uchiha retardation he has to work through and Naruto isn't allowed to be hokage before saving Sasuke but it's still neat to think about how Naruto would cope and instantly abuse his powers to not make Sasuke considered a Fire Nation criminal, with its own political ramifications with the other kage.
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I'm still baffled that this schizo can just do whatever he wants with these threads. He spammed and harassed the real daily threads and their OPs and nothing was done. Now he's just conspicuously samefagging and botting his own threads endlessly. It's already at 400+ posts and heading to bump limit. How valuable is this retard supposed to be to the mods?
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Did someone say Scatkura?
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>>285218317
Not the point of the chain retard.
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>>285218399
>It would make a fuck ton more sense
No it wouldn't retard.
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>>285218264
I don't think Sai was popular with anyone, even the gays
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>>285218393
More like
>Oh shit. I'm running out of ideas for posts.
>Uhhh *rusty cogwheels in Indian brain start slowly turning* I'll argue with myself about Sakura again!
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>>285216919
"the point" would work better if the ninjas actually prioritized fulfilling their missions above all else and were taught to put it above their feelings and the well being of their comrades, but that's literally the opposite of the first thing kakashi teaches them
it's like kishi can't decide if he wants them to be brainwashed child soldiers working for a daimyo or a big family who happens to do fighting missions
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If Tsunade and Jiraiya were """""qualified""""" to be Hokage I don't see why Naruto couldn't.
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>>285217656
nah but Obito? yes
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>>285218442
Sakon...
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>>285218621
I would give you this. If 6 paths Obito pulled a rug from under Edo Madara and killed him, that would be based.
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no.... not like this
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>>285218040
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>>285218653
What's wrong with it?
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>>285217263
Kishimoto is pretty good when he tries.
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>>285218442
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h o l y TRVKE
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>What's wrong with it?
He asks these ignorance feigned questions while knowing exactly what he's doing.
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>>285218571
Haters gonna hate.
>>285218325
I kind of just see Nagato playing out like normal, but Pain being a role that continues beyond him because of the cycle of hatred being larger than any individual.
Yahiko can be among those revived with rinne rebirth and assumes the mantle of Pain. It was originally Yahiko who believed in corporal punishment and had ideals of divine justice. Nagato only applied those beliefs with grim determination.
But yeah Tsunade would probably have to die unless the whole hokage test of Naruto's character can be condensed into a short timeframe.
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>>285218620
>if veterans with decades worth of experience were qualified to be Hokage I don't see why a genin with a little over 6 months of experience couldn't
Hinata...
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>>285218620
It also makes no sense why Tsunade and Jiraiya were allowed to go AWOL and do whatever they wanted for years, and then they were somehow still considered the only viable candidates for Hokage.
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>>285218807
Are you just being a faggot or do you actually have a complaint?
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>>285218811
>Haters gonna hate.
No it's more like non-retards gonna call out retards when they say stupid things.
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>>285218743
He thinks 500 posts of discussion are one guy samefagging on rapid fire. Even with schizophrenia at full power and all the AI in the world one person can't manage so many devices to keep so many dumb conversations going this fast.

This is just Naruto fans having stupid Naruto discussions as usual, it's literally the biggest anime/manga out there and only Dragon Ball could compete with this. The dude complaining clearly doesn't remember (or wasn't here for it) that sometiems we needed 2 to 3 threads posted in a day just because people love to sperg out about ninjas and it's usually just retarded arguing back and forth.
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>>285217656
Not the final antagonist, but definitely close.
He should've been Naruto's final antagonist aside from Sasuke.
Not someone defeated before the 2/3 point of the manga.
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Sai thinks all women are ugly because he's a fag
makes you wonder how Ino managed to extract his seed
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>>285218860
Are you going to keep spamming the thread with these samey, low-quality posts on rapidfl fire? Wait, don't answer that. Of course you are.
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>>285218927
Is this "spam" in the room with us right now?
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>>285218840
No wonder Danzo seethes so hard when Tsunade and Jiraiya are considered better candidates than him despite bumming around so much
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>>285212223
Minato fucking WON
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>>285218883
heh
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>>285218947
Yes. Your posts.
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>the only complaints are because this isn't the "real" daily
>"complaints" always occur at the same time everyday
it's Sakon, isn't it?
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>>285218883
You have literally been IP wiped (when you actually got banned routinely) that show you do exactly that.
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>N-No... Stop talking about the series... T-talk about the SCHIZO...!
>i-IF YOU TALK ABOUT THE SERIES TOO MUCH YOU'RE THE SAMEFAGGING SCHIZO HIMSELF TRYING TO DERAIL BY BEING TOO ON TOPIC!
What is this fucking mental illness
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spoiler quote quirk chungus persona
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Yup... It's sakon having a melty
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>>285218999
He has no life, (You)s are all he has
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>>285218999
Normal threads on this board do not move like this while having the same exact mannerisms and recycled arguments with the expectation that it's all different people.
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Funny how back in the early Dailyramen-era these threads would typically be slow enough to last a full day for 2 chapters a thread, now they're "mysteriously" rocketing to hitting bump limit in 5 hours around the same time a chronic shitposter got outed for training LLMs on Naruto posts
Kinda weird, innit?
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>>285218811
If there were two conflicts with Pain/Nagato I would save Rinne Rebirth for the final confrontation imo. Or just not have it at all. You have to use it in a way that doesn't cheapen the stakes.
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>>285218909
Pegging.
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>>285219055
>Normal threads on this board do not move like this
"Normal" threads on this board are generally not about Naruto, they're about way smaller series that don't attract the same amount of people.
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>>285218962
>Your posts
Which are?
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>>285219057
>”nooooooticing”fag has nothing to say
kekky
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>>285219057
It's almost like the threads got more attention and traction...
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>>285219110
>more attention from the magical whimsical persona army fresh from Australia
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>>285219057
>Kinda weird, innit?
Nope. There's more to talk about in part 2 compared to part 1 so it moves faster.
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Why is this guy so asshurt people are actually discussing the series?
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>>285219096
Even One Piece and Bleach? The former's threads do not move like this with both its main threads and its daily despite being wildly popular.
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>>285219057
>Daily starts picking up the pace (in terms of posts) at around the middle of the manga (and around the part where a big character dies)
No shit?
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>>285219094
yeah, makes sense
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>>285219057
beep borp whirr move along citizen
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>retard supposedly hates these threads
>has to comment why he thinks they aren't real
>can simply not go into the thread
Why would you willingly participate in something that makes you upset? Lol
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>>285219057
real shit is when we get chapters where basically nothing happens and we somehow get 500-600+ posts in a couple of hours, and 99% of it is nearly 1:1 copypastes
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>>285219104
Most of the thread. Once again, feigning ignorance even though the replies are blatantly recycled and sound the same.
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>>285219141
I don't know about One Piece because it's too fucking long for me to ever give it a shot. I'd assume things would be slower than here because even the fans are fatigued of it since it's still being published.
Bleach is still big but nowhere near Naruto-big. Naruto is huge and especially with dumb people so that will obviously translate in activity plus stupid arguments.
What are you complaining about, actually? This is pretty normal for Naruto on this board. How long have you been here?
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>>285219191
Those threads were also just 95% shitposting. It's sad how desperate this faggot is for drama
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>>285219057
I fucking hated it how he dumped the next chapter when a thread had like 490 replies and was about to start being autosaged because he refused to create a new thread for some reason.
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never 4get jeetsuke-kun’s borutoscholar persona getting assraped midthread and shelved from the lost izzat
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>>285219170
Meanwhile, you have stated many times that you hated the daily, the series, snd the fans, yet has obsessively created these fake threads and bot them to bump limit. Pot calling the kettle black, I see.
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Stimmynigga really highlight his /v/ mentality and demonstrating why underground IPs end up with higher quality threads
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>>285219211
>Most of the thread
So on-topic discussion?
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Is it the little shitposts? Like when people started playing tic tac toe on Sakura's forehead? Is that the whole issue? That probably happens because the daily is the only Naruto thread up, people can't resist shitposting. It's gonna happen either way, you just don't notice when there's a containment thread up.
Complaining about too much on topic posts is actually insane.
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Why does this obsessor always bring up some faggot none of us care about? Is it because he just wants low effort (You)s? Is he upset none of us talk about him so he forces him into discussion? I really don't understand it.
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>>285216376
No they were sad because she died
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>because the daily is the only Naruto thread up
I remember when this morning the iphonetoddler persona’s thread (shitty attempt to bring back /nart/) got deleted
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>>285219334
like the mythical kibafag kekroflmao
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There is no point acknowledging the dothead schizo. If you think he is spamming messages, then just make a post about something related to Naruto or the chapter. You’re essentially doing the same and spamming by hyperfocusing on a single retard incessantly, make you a retard in turn. I don’t care much for either of you, and you’re both wasting each other’s time mocking the series or having a back and forth with each other.
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>>285219217
>This is pretty normal for Naruto on this board. How long have you been here?
Why do you pretend to be some oldfag when you only became a regular on this board in 2023? You are samefagging the threads. You have been outed to use multiple devices. You have been outed to use AI modules. Stop acting like any of this is genuine knowing all the shit you have pulled. All these "fans" you keep talking about in here ALL ACT AND SOUND THE SAME. Just these half-assed posts that just repeat arguments or dumb questions.
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>>285219341
It got nuked?
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>>285219382
incoming mass replies
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>>285219301
>Obscure series with a tiny fanbase have better quality discussion than the huge series that caused millions of kids to run with their arms behind their backs and fall on their faces
On top of
>Kid burying himself in sand like Gaara and suffocating to death
>Kid who killed himself because Itachi died
>Nigga who killed his girlfriend "Because he wanted to get Mangekyo"
Yes? What's your point?
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>>285219391
https://desuarchive.org/a/thread/285204034
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>>285219307
Only one person because he (You) are pissed at the actual fans for not caring about your /dbs/ knockoff and your self-insert crackship with your preteen waifu. Remember when you basically confessed that you're samefagging, but told people, the real people, to reply to it anyway and just pretend it's all different people? Lmao, dude.
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>>285219379
He very clearly just wants replies. Best to just ignore him. He'll just shout in the wind if we don't give him the attention he's so desperate for
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>>285219334
You're using your typical jargon again even though you're still trying to insist it's all different people while the majority of the posts in question lack any distinction that they're unique individuals.
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Assuming it wasn't asked in bad faith, I've seen someone ask how Rajsuke's behavior isn't as bad as the stuff you see in /vg/, and that's mainly because the saving grace is that he's verbally whined multiple times that he's all alone, nobody is on his side or likes him, he hates everyone, etc., all his attempts to come across like multiple people who all have the same AI-generated opinions fall flat because you know it's one singular dude abusing welfare checks
Meanwhile on /vg/ you'll have entire organized troll circlejerks of multiple confirmed people who all mass-orbit each other, some generals make Sasjeet look like a joke character
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Is this guy legitimately schizophrenic?
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>>285213339
>>285213688
>>285214442
Why are you so fucking blind.
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>>285219436
What?
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>>285219516
currysuke is, yes
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>>285219524
It's just pinkshitters. Best ignore them.
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>>285219524
Kubo did it better
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>>285219379
>If you think he is spamming messages, then just make a post about something related to Naruto or the chapter.
What a bunch of malarkey for a "solution". You admit to spam and say just post in it anyway. You're as soulless and conspicuous as your AI.
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>>285219516
Sasuketurd? Yes. The retards who need to bring him up every 4 posts? Also yes.
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At least all the shitposting didn't start until after bump limit. These threads have been nice otherwise.
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>>285219593
He needed something to complain about, so he chose... There being too much discussion about the series.
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>>285219542
>feigning ignorance again to dodge the post
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>>285219496
>the post was too scary to (You)
jej
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At some point he has to realize his complaining about shitposts becomes shitposting, right?
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Very, very interesting how all these Naruto fans he was talking who were all supposedly flowing into this thread have all suddenly disappeared and now there is just visible malding over being called out for samefagging and using AI. You would think all these so-called fans would want to set the record straight.
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The archives... Gotta check the archives... The answer to all of this is in there somewhere, I just know it.
I'm gonna blow this case wide open.
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Can't wait for the next chapter to be posted at 3:30 EST(12:30 PST) tomorrow!
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>>285219708
I'm pretty sure he's fully aware.
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>>285219434
What is wrong here?
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I feel like none of this should be happening and yet here we are.
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>>285219742
heh
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>>285219434
>>285219742
Probably mentioning the mods in the OP is what got it deleted.
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>>285219725
Even though you demanded the real OP to do it at 4:00pm and just posted before that time to spite and sabotage him while playing wholesome innocence!
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>>285219783
There he is
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>>285219783
incoming reply wave
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You dumbfucks keep thinking he exclusively stayed just to figure out what pain is. He literally says it in his dying monolog he thought he was meant to defeat pain cause of the prophecy. And not to mention when your student goes astray you feel responsible to put an end to that. He not only says it but every story does the same
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>>285219434
Kek based mods
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>>285219837
It just pisses me off when any characters of any story "choose" to die when they have a chance at running and living.
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Where did all those Naruto fans go, Jeetsuke? You're telling me they all simultaneously stopped posting despite all the genuine discussion born from immense popularity you said was happening in under 5 hours?
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side note but I’m expecting Raj over here to have his next performative meltie on Valentine’s Day, that’s my personal $20 bet
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>>285219868
>you VILL post only in sakon/sasjeet daily
Owari da
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>>285219888
They all simultaneously lost interest as soon as the thread hit the bump limit.
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>>285219888
Not your schizo, and of course people leave after bump liimt and when you start complaining about meta shit that they don't care about.
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>>285219631
The post was just schizo ramblings.
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>>285219837
>he thought he was meant to defeat pain cause of the prophecy
He's stupid for believing he even had a chance by that point
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>>285219937
Or rather your thread met its quota (bump limit, since it makes you feel like you accomplished something) and stopped samefagging and retired your AI until tomorrow where you'll do the exact same shit again.
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Sakon really got buckbroken by an anonymous poster on a Yemenis pumpkin carving forum lol
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>>285219563
Ichigo & Orihime are really more like Minato & Kushina than like Naruto & Hinata.
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>>285219496
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I stopped talking about Naruto because there are retards screaming at each other and drowning out all other conversation
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>>285218883
Not 500. Just 200-300.
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>>285220038
Not really
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>I'm not Izzatsuke, but *spouts the same garbage Izzatsuke says word for word*
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Actual schizo kek
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I still don't understand what this schizo is even complaining about? Some random user that's not even shitting up the thread? Some OP that's anonymous? People discussing the series? What, exactly, is this guy's beef? Does he just want (You)s and attention?
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>>285212779
No, that's a clear Process vs Results case.
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>>285220103
so where were you on Christmas and New Year's
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>>285220103
He wants people to make posts exactly like yours so he can call them out for "being the spammer". The only way to fight it is to ignore it but that's never gonna happen.
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>>285220051
Fucking unreal how this was 149 posts tied to just 1 IP without factoring the others, this board might legitimately have the biggest case of Brown Internet Theory
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>>285220045
>plural for retard
>"conversation" (samefagging where everything is repeated and barely goes past one sentence)
If you really stopped talked talking about Naruto, these threads would be moving at a natural pace with actual human discussion. But you don't want that because your shitpost general died.
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>>285214442
Impressive cope
>>285212389
Based. NEVER GONNA GIVE YOU UP
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>>285212223
leonardodicaprio.png
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>>285220167
You got me bro, I'm AI programmed by this jeet nemesis of yours
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>>285219334
>the mythical "obsessor"
Dude, you stink.
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>>285220203
Two posts belongong to you were found on /g/ in its AI threads, Jeetsuke.
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>>285218883
Hes been saying everyone is the same for ages. Not sure why he sticks around.
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>>285219496
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>the influx of Naruto fans who were supposed to be here are still missing
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>>285220103
Hes mindbroken by events that predate the daily and has been trying to kill any related threads since.
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>>285212375
The Kaguya arc was indeed ass.
>>285212660
I kinda like that we dont know hes fate. Adds a but of mystery to him.
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>>285212373
>OH MY SHEER WILL
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>>285220397
*bit
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>>285212623
They look like they fuck cloud ninja.
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>>285220412
It's warranted for Jman, rapist of Itachis.
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>rajsuke got so obliterated from recent events that he stopped posting the cosplayer guy holding the sign
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>>285220412
Pushing through the......Pain.....Kishimotooooo!!!
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>>285219057
That's not fair. Obviously, this is a daily for a big shounen that would naturally pick up a lot of traction.
Too bad there's not another daily for an even bigger shounen going on for us to compare to.
Because if that shounen were over 1000 chapters in and still not hitting bump limit most days, then it would prove that there's a chronic shitposter deliberately shitting up this daily.
Too bad such a daily doesn't exist, though.
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Jail arc soon btw
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>>285220495
UUUUUUOOOOHHHHHH
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>>285220492
>Obviously, this is a daily for a big shounen that would naturally pick up a lot of traction.
One Piece doesn't and it's just as big.
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Noooo I'm late
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>>285220103
>I still don't understand what this schizo is even complaining about?
He doesn't like ontopic discussion.
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>>285217656
I think there should have been a part 3 with a two year time jump after the pain arc
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>>285214126
>he actually agrees with taking Naruto to the 5ks so he could beg the raikage to not kill Sasuke, as if he didn't already know that was a fruitless endeavor.
>Proceeds to try and kill Sasuke later that same arc
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>>285220495
Obito's wife



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