Does Frieren actually do anything better than these two shows plot or character-wise to deserve all the acclaim it's getting? Because I'm not really seeing it at all.
>>285348028It genuinely does not.
>>285348028can you frierenfags stop shitting up the catalog, thanks>i-i'm not a frierenfagsure, bye
>>285348089Yeah what a shame we lost this haven for intellectual discussion that's currently the most recent archived thread >>285343352
>>285348028Not really, Frieren is just another fotm that will be forgotten in a couple years.
Why not ask this retarded question in a frieren thread instead of making a new thread and shitting up the board with it? Is anon-kun any better than the people in his head that he hates? Because I'm not really seeing it at all.
>>285348028Frieren is better than both just by virtue of not being time travel garbage or shounenshit
>>285348028Being enjoyable for one, I didn't care for either of those anime at all.
>>285348028Ubel is sexy so the show is good and worth watching
SG is the best because of Mayuri. That is all.
>Frieren VS Steins Gate VS FMAABANDON THREADhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bdl99liD-L0
>>285348028Never watched it but steins gate is garbage so it's probably better
>>285348028Can we just be happy with a good fantasy slice of life adventure with a few introspective elements? Why does it need to be more?
>>285348028The difference is the attitude with which you're approaching it. You approached those shows with fresh eyes and an open mind. With Frieren you're somewhere between feeling overhyped or consciously/subconsciously upset that people like this show so much.
>>285348028Frieren is the only good anime out of the three
>funny.jpg
>>285348028I'm not going to say that Frieren is the best anime of all time but the show has some actual emotion in it which is more than I can say for FMAB and SG. The story also has actual themes rather than just being some fightfest or a cheap time travel thriller.
>>285348765frieren characters have no emotion. the show is unbearable to watch because of that.
>>285348028No. Out of those 3 shows, Frieren is the worst. Frieren's decent but it wouldn't have even stood out if it was made by madhouse in the 2000s, it would be overshadowed by all the similar, superior shows
>>285348028This is why you should never listen to MAL scores. The top 10 is full of trash like these three you're posting.
>>285348089>>>/v/
>>285348028It's fun.
>>285348303Frieren will never have a girl this sexy though
>>285348028>mal threadNext time post 2 better anime to compare, retard. Frieren mogs
>>285349411Very true. I love both Kurisu and Mayuri!
>>285348028Yeah, at least the first part of it is genuinely good and fresh. It's not shallow fma or "do shit for fun then fix it" sg
>>285348028You ARE talking about 03 FMA, right?
>>285350049He's talking about Brotherhood and you know it
>>285350337That makes it 50x worse I'm afraid
>>285348028All of those anime are overrated.
>>285348173It's not going to be forgotten, why are you people so clueless?
>>285348401>Character with no personality except being a moeblob and dying for the sake of the plotShe sucks. as do most of the characters in S;G.
>>285348028Frieren is genuinely good, even if it gets rated a little highly. Maybe you should try engaging with the work for once.
>>285348028Frieren is fine. It's got problems, but it's still pretty good. FMA:B is fine. It's not perfect and I never pretend it is, but it's one of those few stories I keep coming back to over and over. FMA 03 is kinda weird.SG is... Well I gave it an honest chance.
>>285348028FMA > Frieren > Stroon gate
>>285351531Contrarian shitter opinion.
>>285351602stroon gate was overhyped and boring as fuck, cope
>>285348028I like the journey in Frieren, and the nostalgic feeling it tries to evoke. Doesn't have to be anything more than that.
YesI mean the production values in Frieren completely blow S;G out of the water, for as stylish and well directed as it was. This is probably also one of the few times it might be appropriate to talk about pacing, because Frieren leverages its episodic nature way harder with more tightly woven narratives that have their own setups and climaxes. Ultimately S;G has quite a bit more to say about the otaku archetypes, their real world inspirations, and the community of the 2000s than what the Frieren anime covers even up to the exam arc. Even within that arc though you can see overarching themes about "the world of magic," different eras, and personal philosophies toward magic that all have cathartic moments, often invoking the hero's party backstory as well. Amusingly enough, Frieren is a more character and drama driven story than S;G which is praised for its focus on characterization but actually is pointing the way to social commentary (a rather saccharine, fangless and introspective commentary, but all the same).You really have to be stupid to think any of these are overrated though
>>285348224>Frieren>not shounenshitGood one
>>285348028FMAB is the best anime of those and it's only average. I don't get the hype with them.
>>285348028We'll know when it ends, senpai shat the bed with it's ending, nonsensical on many levels, as always the japanese have a very poor grasp of the source material they use and very poor grasp of philosophy and morality.
>>285348028I'm not a big fan of Steins;Gate and thought the time travel concept had been done better before a number of times. I do think that Frieren and FMAB are good for what they are, which is fundamentally still shounen or shounen-like stories for the most part.
>>285350037Calling something else shallow is rich when Frieren is the definition of shallow with a veneer of profundity to make the audience think it was deep.
>>285353843Even as flawed as it is Re:Zero has way better characters than S;G and had better emotional moments for me
>>285348028Frieren is just a good show, I don't know what else to tell you anon.
>>285348028The only good thing about Frieren and Steins Gate are the girls, everything else about them is slop. And FMAB doesn't even have that going for it.
>>285348060FPBP
>>285354722>FMAB doesn't even have that going for itAhem
>>285348028>reddit;gate
>>285348060/thread
>>285355797Cute, I remember her now.
>>285354722>The only good thing about Frieren and Steins Gate are the girls, everything else about them is slopThis is true.>And FMAB doesn't even have that going for itFalse and it's also the best anime of the three.
>>285348028>Overrated millennial anime vs overrated zoomer anime
Frieren is good, actually. You're just an insanely jaded person
>>285349411Kurisu is such a dogshit character. Weebs really spent over 10 years simping for this nothing tsundere?
Brown "people" love Frieren.
>>285348028Stop forcing this meme it's not going to catch on like you think it is. Both shows are garbage.
>>285356984Both are really good and I hate the narrative you retards try to spin otherwise.
Eva mogs.
>>285348224>or shounenshitFrierentards are so hilariously deluded.
>>285348868>Frieren characters have no emotion You need to go back to kindergarten to learn how to read?
>>285348765FMAB has more emotion and more developed themes than Frieren. Frieren spent all of its emotions on the first few episodes.
>>285358064Frieren has more emotion than both of the pieces of crap in the OP, it's just not the kind of emotion most anime watchers are used to.
>>285357393Eva is genuinely the only decent anime posted in this thread so far
>>285356706If you think she's bad you should see the rest of the cast besides Okabe.
>>285348028haven't watched frieren but from what I've been hearing about it it looks like SoL but boring, not relatable, and forgettable. Am I in the ballpark?
>>285359028It's fine Extremely understated about its characterization, and the character arcs are really slow People interpret the opening episode as emotionally manipulative Really it's just the author showing you what you need to know and making a promise for what the story is going to be about, if you think you're supposed to cry you missed the point And if it's not relatable to you... you may be very young, and not very introspective
>>285359028It's SoL until it randomly turns to shounen in one part. The rest is up to your interpretation.
>>285348028Nope
I watched it. It starts as a by the numbers isekai, coasts on glacial pacing slice of life for awhile, then devolves completely into Naruto chunin exams. Genuinely mind boggling stuff that people suck it off so much
>>285348028Not even a little, hell it's not even better than steins gate 0
>>285348028Never got the hype for Frieren, I didn't hate it but I didn't enjoy it anymore than any other seasonal slop, certainly not more than steins gate or either FMA
>>285359615Steins Gate 0 was abysmally bad.
>>285359799It was but at least it has one moment of kino, Frieren doesn't even have that
>>285348028No because it didn't have the impact on /a/ either of those two had. You'll never see something for Frieren like pic related or relaxing ed memes or the threads as hype for the last chapters of fma.
>>285358255Hilarious you're trying to pull a "you don't get it because it's different" on such a big normalfag/casual magnet. Frieren doesn't do anything special. It doesn't have any meaningful development past the the first few episodes. It's just rehashing the same things over and over again.
>>285360333Yes because Frierentards söyboys are Brown normalfaggots whiteknights of thier Mary Sue whore Frieren Rey Skywalker. They are as annoying as shitskins /dbs/ retards
>>285349411Moeka is sexier
>>285360997
>>285348028>Shitflinging war between three mediocre animeTypical /a/.
shits gay is complete garbage, literally bazinga the animation + time travel
>>285348028Yes, Frieren isn't reddit bullshit that ends with literal power of friendship, happily ever after slop
>>285361585>nooo you don't understand killing this bad guy makes you le evil and revenge is le bad Contrast this stupid forced drama with Frieren's willingness to kill demons (who represent jews) and it's obvious which show is more based
>>285348028>plain characters shock value time travel slop>power of friendship toddler jokes battle shounen>kino wannabe battle shounenIts better, you need 2 better anime to compare that was easy.
>>285348028I liked Frieren a lot more than those two shows you posted, I can at least say that.
>>285348028Frieren does SoL well, which the other two don't try to do.
>>285348028Steins;Gate is shit.
>>285361585Frieren hasn't ended yet though
>>285361611You don't understand either of these shows
>>285362381That's the big elephant in the room and why I think it's practically guaranteed that Frieren will drop off or otherwise become bad at some point. Though for now it's still a way way better story than FMAB and S;G.
>>285362409of course not, that's a /vpol/ tourist who doesn't even watch anime
>>285348028The years when Brotherhood and Steins;Gate were the 2 highest rated anime were the most retarded years in the anime community.
>>285348028Frieren is sovl
>>285348028No, it's slightly better than all the of native isekai and isekai fantasy shows in the past 10 odd years so people don't know how to react. Steins Gate and FMA have soul and originality
>>285348028Both of those are dogshit so yes fieren is definitely better
>>285361585>This retard is still obsessing over FMABLet it go already, funnyschizo.
>>285351096Truth nuke. Mayuri is a bad character, and Steins;Gate's bar isn't even that high.
>>285348028Frieren does everything better than those mid shows. Even dialogue.
>>285359028Just watch it and come up with your own opinion
>>285348028Unironically I only like FMA out of the three of them
>>285366959Same
>Next year people who were born after FMAB started airing can post here explains a lot of this thread
>>285348028I'm tired of pretending that Steins;gate is good
>>285368922The only thing that s;g; does truly well is the John Titor conspiracy tie in, that one made the show look promising early on. The rest ended up being kind of underwhelming.
None of these shows have any overlap with each other,
Let’s be honest. If you can’t appreciate honest, polite, lighthearted, comfy fantasy kino, you’re probably brown..
>>285369321They're all the highly rated MALslop
If you posted either of those in your 3x3 five years ago /a/ would have ripped you apart Now they are sacred cows?If 4chan still exists in the future and some new anime is no1 on MAL the /a/nons of that time will treat Frieren with the same phony deference
>>285369380>honest, polite, lighthearted, comfy fantasy kinoThat's why I love the first five-ish episodes, but then it just turns to ordinary shonenshit.
Frieren is a breath of fresh air since a lot of new fantasy/isekai manga emerged and are way too repetitive.But I woulnd't even compare it to FMA or S;G.FMA is gold of the shonen genre ; and S;G is just the best visual novel adaptation ever.
>>285372436>Time travel slop and shounenslopDisgusting that people treat these as the gold standard for anything.
>>285348028thought that was a fem light yagami on the left
>>285373073>He hasn't seen SGWhat a newfag.
>>285348028>Three of the top rated anime of all time>None of them are goodWhat causes this?
>>285372436>FMA is gold of the shonen genre Gintama is way better than fma (if we consider it a battle shounen). To be fair, a gold battle shounen doesnt mean anything since the genre is dogshit.>and S;G is just the best visual novel adaptation ever.And what does that have to do with its quality? Clannad is better adaptation-wise
>>285348028>Does it do anything better than these 2 completely different series? No. But it isn't nearly as good of a show no
>>285373241They are harmless, can appeal to most casuals, consistent, have action/suspense, not very old and plain simple shows; if we take those factors into account, I think it's a solid top three.
>>285373404I can accept the casual and safe explanation for brotherhood. frieren and s;g try to be more than casual but fail at it because their writing isn't good enough for that.
>>285348028Try watching it.
>>285348028Steins;Gate's plot is retarded reddit-tier drivel. The type of people who hype it up purely because of Kurisu are the same type of people who sat through boring-ass NCIS for the goth chick.
>>285373285>Clannad is better adaptation-wiselol no. SG is the best vn anime bar none, nobody even remembers or cares about Clannad anymore.
>>285348028Fma isn't great either
>>285374016Shut up zoomer, you didnt played any of those to know what adaptation is better. And yes, clannad is better and key is more relevant in the medium and the world, seethe
>>285348028Frieren is the best fantasy SoL out there
>>285374351Nobody remembers Aria anymore...
>>285348028Only tasteless MALfags worship these slops. They are okay but none of them are close to the best of anything.
>>285375415At least FMA does not go on forever like certain other anime in the genre
Ubel best girl
>>285348028Unironically you'll understand when you're older. Freiren is a show about the passage of time and the things you lose along the way. You won't really get it until you've been around long enough to feel things start to slip away.
>>285374351Aria and Mushishi are vastly better. And there are other manga not adapted yet
>>285376704Frieren is for 12 years old kids
>>285376784Natsume is also better but the west only care about amerimutt-wannabe anime or battle shounen
>>285348028SG is shitFrieren is shitFMA is good shit
>>285348028FMA has solid storytelling and character writing, top tier for a shonen battle show. But by nature of being a shonen battle show, that character writing is largely focused on setting up characters and bringing them into conflict with each other for bombastic fight setpieces.Frieren's character writing, meanwhile, is more introspective. Everything loops back to being about Freiren herself and the life that brought her to where she is now. Even the demons and their episodes are largely about Freiren as well if you understand the parallels being built regarding the differences in how the inhuman, long lived demons can't really understand humanity and how elves mirror that in a less destructive but no less insurmountable set of differences from how humans experience the world. SG is a fun but ultimately shallow story that /a/ latched onto because its about the specific kind of highly online otaku culture that /a/ sees itself as. I like the characters and all, but there isn't really all that much to the story beyond "these guys accidentally make time machine adjacent devices, putting them in the way of a conspiracy to control time travel" which isn't a bad premise but its an 8/10 show on its best day.
>>285376941Based
i don't understand all the praise for steins gate, it's bottom of the barrel otaku shit.
>>285348028Idk but at least it's not boring like slop gate.
>>285376941I can spot LLM writing from a mile away.
>>285376572I want to take off her boots and socks
>>285376941I don't care if the show is "deep". I care if it's compelling. Normalfags don't even understand what you said and are just there for the action and zeitgeist even though there's more to the anime.
>>285361585Frieren litterally killed the evil ghosts with the power of Friendship encouraging her.
Was really surprised how much worse brotherhood was from the og which wasnt that good to begin with.
>>285348028Imagine putting all your effort into your writing but it's still worse than anime meant for kids and reddit.
>>285348028>Sharts;GateI dropped this shit after the first few episodes. No I will not read the VN.
Is flashy, but emotional always gonna be the meta
>>285379075Frieren > Steins;GateBut FMAB is better than both. And it's not even the best version of FMA.
>>285379293I was just shitposting, but you are based as hell.
>>285348028Who cares? I like it. I don't need any other reason to justify my enjoyment than that.
>>285348028At least people care about Frieren. Overhyping from Reddit is the only thing keeping those two aggressively average anime alive.
>>285379816This
>>285348028freren is the only one of those that I actually enjoyed so checkmate I guess
>>285380499I wonder how many of the people that hold up SG and FMA as superior anime are oldfags who decided that this was the top of anime back when they both aired in 2009/2010 and are just seething that 15 years later the culture has moved beyond them.
>>285348028Sure. Better moment to moment pacing, stronger core theme (regret is a more powerful emotional centerpiece than desperation), characters less dependent on being stereotypes. The demons in Frieren are also just more interesting than the homonculi, who are practically saturday morning cartoon villains (we're bad because... well we just ARE okay???). not to say steins;gate isn't great, and fmab is a solid 8/10, but Frieren is definitely a cut above both.
>>285381033Even if you personally find the core themes of FMA more compelling, you can't beny that Frieren is just a better made piece of media in a way that can't soley be explained by a decade of improved animation techniques or budget. Frieren is arguably the best directed and one of the best scored animes ever made, and the fact that it relies more on subtext that outright spelling out character motivations with ridiculous internal monologues makes for more mature story telling that appeals to me personally and will appeal to the kinds of people that pay attention to the shows they watch.Frieren will always score low amongst phonewatchers, autists who can't into subtext, backround players, and zoomers who don't actually "watch" the shows they consume and are just kind of there while they happen and then these same people will post obsessively about a show they aren't mentally equipped to understand.
>>285381033>>285381357Trvke
>>285381357You are correct. The direction is indeed the secret sauce behind Frieren's greatness. It's the way the scenes fit together, how quickly or not quickly they move, which shots linger and which shots are quick, where the most work is done. All things the director gets to determine. I think direction is more often than not the difference between something that people like, and something people find truly special. It's also something that unfortunately cannot be taught. Nobody can tell you how to take a comic book and translate it into motion in a way that most resonates with the audience. But the Frieren director knows how. Whether by experience, instinct, or both.
>>285381357I think the episodes that really emphasize this difference for me are Stark's introduction with the dragon and then the sword/birthday episode. Compare the fight with the dragon to any of the iconic action sequences in FMA/B. The storytelling weaving together the sword village and his birthday with his backstory and the bit of Frieren's journey with the party makes for an episode that has intense emotional catharsis for a comically large hamburger meal. Looking at specific episodes in Steins;Gate for similar pacing and direction, there are some standouts perhaps like the first episode of the Moeka arc or the conclusion of Suzuha's arc when she's finally sent off after discovering Daru is her father just to send the failure letter that drives Okabe to undo the days they spent with her built up over the course of several episodes.
Frieren is good but S;G is just unmatched.
>>285382676For me the part that shows the strength of the direction is Frierens flashback based storytelling style, which has to be done exactly right or it falls flat.The whole;Step 1, Frieren does or says an odd thing without context - no explination is givenStep 2, Time passes and things happenStep 3, Flashback happens - Sometimes within the same episode, sometimes several episodes later (The longest being literaly 28 episodes The contextless event in the first episode and the context supplying Flashback in the very end of he final episode) This flashback establishes the context for the the thing in Step 1 usually providing the emotional catharsis and payoff.For people who don't pay attention they might completely miss the initial "odd" event in step 1 or have completely forgotten about it by the time step 3 comes around because they view each scene or episode in a self contained vacum and so the emotional payoff simply doesn't happen for them because they missed it.
>>285382972That's really prominent in the Stark episodes too. At the cave of the sword we get a brief flash of his backstory that is a stand in for why he feels so unworthy as to even try to pull it himself as well as a person who he views as more worthy. When he explains his backstory to Fern we see a flashback to him running, but it omits his brother telling him to run immediately prior until the next version of the flashback is played after Frieren tells him the meaning of hamburgers. I'd say the other major example is the way that the spell to create a field of flowers is constantly recontextualized with flashbacks to the point that it happens twice at the end of the mage exam with Frieren explaining it was the luck behind the party and then Serie's admission of remembering her students' spells itself being nested in a flashback during Lernen's scene. Steins;Gate does have a few cases of insert flashbacks, the most similar example being the episode that begins with a flashback to when Moeka first received a message from FB. It's not that this particular flashback gets recycled with tweaks in the same way, but it's part of building the context as Okabe pushes into her apartment. Probably the most obvious motif in S;G is Mayuri's stardust handshake pose that appears during the foreshadowing phase and later we get the flashback to the moment at her grandmother's grave.
>>285381733I am once again asking for the director of 86 be let out of his cage and allowed to direct another anime.
>>285348028All shit
>>285348060Fpbp
>>285348028stein gatr is shit
>>285384699True, I only watched it because Kurisu is hot and that's the only reason I wasn't disappointed
>>285348028It's better written than both of those
>>285384965Dude Okabe pissed me off so much I could barely stand watching the show for more than a few episodes
>>285385621Read the VN
>that last thread just bumped off the catalog where the guy complaining about frieren casually says he didn't watch itDisgusting.
>>285385696I'm not reading a longer version of that dogshit, sorry.
>>285385876So many cases. I dunno what it is that compells anons to contribute their opinion of a series they never watched or game they never played and just jumped on a contrarian disinfo bandwagon of what some schitzo shitposters imagined the thing to be.
>>285385696How does reading the VN fix all of the existing problems with the story? It doesn't make the time travel not an asspull and it doesn't make the pacing not suck.
>>285387241It doesn't but pretending that you're not allowed to criticize the adaptation without having read the source material is an excuse to shut down the argument. They know in advance that almost no one is going to pay money to play a 40 hour game just to win an argument on the internet, and even if they DID do that just out of spite they wouldn't have time to do that here and now so you are just presenting your stance as uncontestable and declaring victory by forfeit because I said you have to forfeit and you better listen or I'll be super mad >:(.
>>285387241>asspullOnly dumb people use buzzwords like this
>>285387337S;G fags in particular I find lean on that super hard.I can watch and judge the anime as it is. And in my opinion it's not bad but there is a lot of better anime out there.
>>285387433Attractor Fields are basically asspulls
>>28538343686 is pretty bad though. The first cour is alright but everything afterwards is just slop.
>>285387887No quite the opposite, they are thoroughly established in the story through the Titor mythos and are connected to the thematic treatment of seemingly inevitable outcomes as fate in the tragic/romantic sense. You're just a retard with no real critiques so you need buzzwords that have no actual meaning or weight to signal your contrarian whining.
>>285348028Okay you people can stop pretending these are the three best anime of all time now. Mushishi alone mogs all of these shows.
>>285388414Based anime taste
>>285348028Unironically when you're older you'll understand frieren better
>>285385876Where?
I would like a tall skinny elf gf PLS PLS PLS PLS
>>285348028>Does Frieren actually do anything better than [dogshit]Yes, quite a lot of things better actually.
>>285390427I wouldn't call them dogshit but fmab and s;g are 6/10 at the most
>>285383381This is just big fish in a small pond. You're judging Frieren and SG on the basis of the human condition and direction in the context of genre fiction while pretty much completely ignoring the main reasons for why one engages in genre fiction.Everything you say, literary fiction or some TV drama will do far better than Frieren ever could hope to reach. The only difference is that Frieren hides in the genre of Fantasy, but it's fantasy elements themselves are laughable if you coms from the wider canon, for one thing we moved past medieval inspired settings a long time ago.
>>285390578>we You're seriously, unironically, judging a show by how trendy and hip it feels (to you)? "Let's jump off a bridge if everyone is doing it"-tier argument. Opinion discarded.
>>285390578>The only difference is that Frieren hides in the genre of Fantasy, but it's fantasy elements themselves are laughable if you coms from the wider canon, for one thing we moved past medieval inspired settings a long time ago.See now this is pretentious
The venn diagram of bait threads and threads made by the ignorant has become a circle
>>285390578Anon, Frieren isn't "hiding" in genre fiction. Its story literally wouldn't be possible outside of the trappings of a fantastical setting. The story's best elements all hinge on the alien perspective of a character who perceives the world and their relationships with others in a unique way specifically because they are not a human and the extremely long lifespan that results from that. The story and characters don't work without this fantastical caveat. I have to assume that you are trying to contact a false position for the purpose of acting superior, because I simply don't think that you could hold this flimsy an opinion genuinely.
You can call Frieren shallow but the story still has real themes, S;G and FMAB are far more shallow in comparison. If Frieren is a puddle then the other two have no water at all.
>>285391064S;G is one of the most thematically profound stories in the medium. You've never watched or read it.
>>285390200>>285362739
>>285348028why is there a pile of shit sitting next to the gold?
>>285348028Frieren? Built for Goblin.
>>285391460Which one is the pile of shit? Both of them look like piles of shit to me.
>>285348060fpbp
>>285391527Frieren would have taken a whole tribe of goblins at once and wouldn't even show a hint of emotional discomfort.
>>285374351Haibane Renmei, Kamichu, Kiki's Delivery Service, Natsume Yuujinchou, and Hakumei to Mikochi are also all better. Frierenfags keep proving themselves to be underage/zoomers who don't watch anime.
>>285391103>S;G is one of the most thematically profound stories in the mediumlmao
>>285391103S;G is literally no different from "I respawned as a succubus' panties and now I keep sneezing into her pussy!" in terms of merit. It's literally bottom of the barrel shit. People will put up with anything as long as it has le dark tweest it seems.
>>285392401The thing with Frieren is it has such high production values, it might tide a viewer over in comparison to other TV shows which might have other things going for it but can't reach the same wow factor. Haibane Renmei for example has great atmosphere and mood, subtle understated direction and a more poignant throughline, but a modern watcher could possibly not escape the 'dated' feeling purely off production value.
>>285348028FMA is only relevant cause of LE BAD DAD MADE HIS DAUGHERINO A HECKIN PUPPERINO!!! Show sucked
>>285348028Well it's settled then.If you're not seeing it then it can't exist you fucking retard.
>>285372956Funnily enough Frieren has BOTH of those things, kek.
>>285393659>Frieren has time travel nowUnfortunate.
>>285393659A watered down baby version of those things, yeah. Like a amateur taking bits and pieces from things they like without knowing why its good. Next thing you'll know its a murder mystery
>>285394317>Aura, you're the culprit!kino
>>285392978Frieren does not have better visuals and direction than Kiki's Delivery Service. That's just a nice way of saying they get distracted by pretty flashing lights like jingling keys.
>>285395075Frieren has zoomer sakuga. If your anime doesn't have yutapon cubes it means it's dated.
