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Is Kaio-sama always right?
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Super Broly is much better than Z Broly.
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>>286236179
Is he?
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>>286236179
No.
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ENTER...
A WEAKLING.
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>>286236216
Agreed.
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>>286236216
100%
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Yup. Bardock's family.
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>>286236138
Have you noticed it's only Majin Buu who refers to himself in the third person? My guess is that Pan was trained by him, which explains why she speaks like that.
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>>286236216
True.
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>>286236319
Bardock FUCKS
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Hang in there Kakarot...you are number one!
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>>286236354
I've noticed that, but I don't think it actually proves that Pan was trained by Majin Buu.
What we need to understand is why does Majin Buu talk like that.
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>>286236179
Yep he sure is, the writer made him that way.
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>>286236216
No one with brain thinks this.
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Nuly sucks.
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>>286235865
>Toyotaro releases the horror-oriented arc that was supposed to happen after Granolah
>followed by the Dragon Heir
>followed by the God Slayer arc
I cannot wait.
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>>286236548
What is there to understand? She consistently speaks like that and, aside from Majin Buu, no character refers to themselves in the thrid person.
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>UNCREDITEDtaro
KWAB!
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>>286236780
But why do they talk like that?
I think I know why Majin Buu talks like that, could it be that Pan talks like that for the same reason that Majin Buu does?
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>>286236915
And what do you suppose is Majin Buu's reason?
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No one actually likes Tenshinhan.
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Pan will go Beast II after watching Jobhan die and Kill Blacked Frieza.
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Everyone likes Yurin.
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>>286237065
Because everyone loves him. We love Tenshinhan here!
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Will fenyo replace Tracetaro? He is a much better artist.
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>>286237050
I think that most people would agree that he is stupid, that would be the reason...
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>>286237194
Tenshinhan likes her so much that he forgot about her for 30 years.
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>>286237392
What are you implying?
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Redesigned Vegeta to give him a more unique and charming design
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>>286237483
I'm just stating Dragon Ball facts, you're the one who made the connection.
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>>286237522
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would dragonBall even be watchable anymore if Pan, Goten, Trunks, and Uub where the main characters?

serious question, because historically every franchise that tried passing the torch has always failed.
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>>286237522
I like it.
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>>286237522
Bejewta???
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>>286237660
Goku Jr. And Bejita Jr. were created for a reason, because no one likes the other children.
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>>286233016
>So does this must mean that Gine cuckolded Bardock and Raditz was not his true son?
The moment Frieza realizes Gohan has "Saiyan blood" he concludes the boy can't be Nappa's or Vegeta's son because he looks nothing like them. However, Frieza then wonders if Gohan is Raditz's child, noting that "he looks familiar".

Canonically, Gohan resembles Goku, who is the spitting image of Bardock. Apparently, Raditz was similar enough to them to make Frieza question if Raditz and Gohan were father and son.
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>>286237660
>would dragonBall even be watchable anymore if Pan, Goten, Trunks, and Uub where the main characters?
Nope. They're boring. The only next generation character they want to see as the main character, is Gohan, and even there, he was unsuitable for a series like DB

It's either Goku or no one
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would dragonBall even be watchable anymore if Caulifla, Kale, Cabba, and Renso where the main characters?

serious question, because historically every franchise that tried passing the torch has always failed.
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>286238028
stop leeching for attention, faggot.
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The Dragon Ball story concluded in 1995.
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>>286238160
Sorry meant 1997
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Vegeta, Tien, Krillin.
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>>286238393
Jobber, God, Cuck
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>>286238393
>Vegeta
Who???
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>>286238393
We only respect Tien here.
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>>286238160
No, 1995 for the manga. And 1996 for the anime that covers the manga.

GT is irrelevant.
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>>286237660
It could be if it was exclusively focused on female character and the was on the beach.
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>>286236179
King Kai has never lied.
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>>286239151
fuck wrong vocarooo
https://voca.ro/1cvFVHOLkK8x
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>>286238108
Bodied the waifufreak.
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>>286238160
The original Dragon Ball story concluded in 1997.
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>>286238965
>once son goku was beaten
>which never happened
are you stupid? he clearly did
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>>286237647
That's just how she speaks, it doesn't necessarily mean she's stupid.
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>>286238888
Are Saiyans autistic?
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>>286239471
They're battle autistic.
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It's funny how Tien and Yamcha always appear side by side, the only ones without girlfriends or families. It makes them look like two faggots
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I cried at the end of GT. Realizing the official canon timeline comes to a close is sad.
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>>286239622
you don't know what tracing is
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>>286239647
I see 2 Chads not indulging in the temptation of women.
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>>286236216
Nah.
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Lucky Lucky! Lucky-Lucky! Lucky Ball Z!
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>>286236179
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Why is the Dragon Ball Super manga still on hiatus?
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>>286239721
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mv7RNQtC2Ak
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>>286239720
>Chadly
>2/3 of his movies were utter, utter shit.
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>>286239753
2/3 are iconic. One is utter dogshit, but it doesn't even really feature him anyways.
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>>286239740
Toyo was fired after the high school musical arc.
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I just re-read DB and boy Krillin barely did jackshit in Z. He forced everyone to fight Nappa much earlier and was useless in the Vegeta fight outside of that one Genki Dama attack (that didn't even work on him)
On Namek, he let the Dragon Balls he was entrusted to get stolen twice, and the only reason him and Gohan could bring anyone back was because of Vegeta
On Android, he did nothing as he watched his friends get beat up by 17 and 18, and was mostly just a senzu bean carrier
On Cell, he didn't deactivate 18 cause he liked her I guess. Everyone made a mistake, but theyy all made up for their mistakes; Goku gave up his life for earth, Gohan ended up killing Cell, Vegeta gave Gohan an opening, meanwhile Krillin messed up and did nothing after that

Also, there has never been an instance where Krillin was ever stronger than Tien even on Namek. Herms translation even confirms Tien was barely fighting a Cell Jr taking multiple hits even while Krillin was on the ground getting his ass kicked
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>>286236216
Yup.
>>286239720
His biggest achievement is losing to SS1 Goku two times and being a half-baked swamp thing/clayface mutt, killed by two little kids and Krillin.
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>>286239740
1) There was a fight for the rights to the franchise after Toriyama died, it ended now though
2) The manga ended just before EoZ and I think they don't know what the fuck to do with it
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>>286239809
CHADly's biggest achievement is nuking a galaxy while in base.
Muttly has what to his name?
>jobs to a dog buzzer
>jobs to plastic wrap
>jobs to a bottle cap
>jobs to bejita
>can't beat goku
>can't kill frieza after an hour of fighting him
>pushes neither goku nor bejita to their max
>jobs to a trunks-tier fusion
>weaker than dende even at his strongest
>sits around in a kennel on beerus' planet
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>>286236216
...On opposite day
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>>286239720
>will cuck himself to banpa, never to be seen again
What actually happens to him is so much worse than this.
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>>286239622
>videotoy that released in 1995 copied Toriyama's manga
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>>286239912
>SHITly's biggest achievement is [headcanon]
Yup. And GODly won, unlike the weaker than SS1 jobber who got pissed on by children.
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They should make an arc where there's a soul eating demon hunting the heroes dead friends and family for souls so Goku and the gang have to commit suicide to go to Otherworld to stop it. And Goku and Bardock and Grandpa Gohan all meet
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>>286239912
Very true and canon
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>>286239968
All true.
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>>286239968
>opening scene of the movie is headcanon
You're coping hard, brownoid.
>And GODly won
Won what, exactly?
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>>286239912
>Muttly has what to his name?
A cuckchair.
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Zly is cooler, stronger, and more respected. Nuly is a boring loser that I can't see why anyone would like unless they associate themselves as an autist loser
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>>286239647
Why does Tien wear his nu-DB costume in modern games, but Yamcha remains stuck with the turtle gi?
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>>286239912
The worst part about Nuly is that Toyotarou confirmed that Black Frieza is stronger than not just him, but also Gohan Beast, UI Goku, UE Goku, Piccolo Orange AND Nuly at full power ALL at the same time.

Super ruined the appeal of Broly. No one liked Broly because of muh depth or cause he had some sob story, they liked him because he was supposed to be the apex of Dragon Ball power. Toriyama didn't understand why he was so popular.
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>>286237401
This episode was absurd. It was supposed to be fanservice for Tien fans but he unironically gets raped by master Roshi in it
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>>286240077
Nuly is only liked because of his name, like a stolen valor situation. All of it was carried over from remembering how nuts Zly went in his movies, now attributed to a character who displayed and earned none of it. If he had a different name nobody would character. Case in point: Kale.
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>>286240131
Nice
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>>286240103
>Apex of power
>Less strong than cell
Lol
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>>286240164
He's the strongest opponent in Z
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Leave him alone grrrrr
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>>286240135
>nobody would character.
Wanna try in English Enrique
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>>286240038
>opening scene of the movie is headcanon
Correct. I now accept your concession.
>>286240103
BLACKEDza gets one shot by Nuly.
>>286240164
KEK true!
>>286240177
...In my bad fanfictions.
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>>286240177

Jobs to ss Goku
Less strong than the androids and anyone after that
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The PINNACLE.
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>>286240164
>IESLB
Meanwhile:
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>>286240191
>no punctuation
Done.
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>>286240221
>lost to Goku who had the energy of Trunks, Bejita, Gohan, and Piccolo, basically making him a quasi SSJGod and not only that, he had to attack the only weak point Broly has, which was extremely lucky.
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>destroy
The planets and other celestial bodies Goku went in the South Galaxy to find Broly are intact.
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>>286240231
Jobs to broly, moro, cell max, the gay robots from superhero, granolah, gas, freiza blanco, orange piccolo, and beast Gohan.
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>>286240369
>he didn’t destroy it!
>look, two out of trillions across an entire galaxy in space are fine!
>just ignore the ruins right here!
Retard.
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>>286240164
>beat Goku and Gohan post-RoSaT along with Bejita, Trunks and Piccolo
>needed their combined powers to stop him
>meanwhile Nuly needed the help of some green little girl with a PL not even at 1000 to save him
BOOM.

Done.
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>>286240293
>appealing to newly established lore
That's not enough to kill Bojack or Cell.

Z Broly is a weak jobber.
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>SHITren
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>>286240369
>Planet at the edge of South Galaxy is completely fucked
>Countatable amount of stars in the sky
>both planets still glowing green from the aftermath
What does this prove? South Galaxy was obliterated and a few planets at the edge survived. The planet you showed was just hit by residual power from south galaxy being obliterated.
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>>286240480
One of those things DID kill Bojack.
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Nulykeks are as dumb as their hero.
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NulyGODs are as smart as their hero.
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>>286236179
Goku lost the skirmish but won the battle.
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>>286240606
>Kale and Cheelai
Nuly has two good bitches to fuck.
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>>286239327
Yes, but you're the one who associated her with Majin Buu, making the way she talks not a coincidence. You implied that Majin Buu influenced Pan in the way she thinks and acts.
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>Dr. Gero built androids stronger than SS/LSS/SSG

How is he so smart and powerful?
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>>286236216
Nope. Nuly tries to be both a terrifying antagonist and comic relief, and he's too uninteresting to effectively do either. He's portrayed as sympathetic and goofy, so when he finally snaps you don't feel any fear of him. You're meant to feel pity for him, which no one with a functioning brain would because his character wasn't well established enough to emotionally connect with him, so you're left with a screaming lunatic who 10 minutes ago was struggling to open a bottle of water.

Whereas Zly was immediately depicted and established as a fucking monster even before we knew it, having nuked an entire galaxy and being given a moniker so well-known to the Saiyans that even Vegeta took it seriously. Then when it's established that this unknown "Legendary Super Saiyan" and Broly are the same being, the audience immediately feels a sense of dread because they know the heroes are about to go up against a legit monster, and Broly's personality and lines then reinforce what has already been established for his character.
They're two completely different writing pedigrees. Super Broly is vastly inferior in a narrative and character sense.
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>>286240726
Don't underestimate the intelligence of a white man.
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>>286240806
I think what's funny with Nuly fans is that they hate on Zly because he's nothing but a screaming lunatic, but Nuly is LITERALLY a screaming lunatic. After the first 30 mins, Nuly screams for the entirety of this movie.

Zly could actually talk. He talked a lot of shit to Goku and the others, but that's still something.
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>I AM... LE DEVIL!!!
No smart adult likes this jobber. Nuly is infinity better written.
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>>286240894
People who say all Zly said was "Kakarot" never saw the movie.
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Would Super Saiyan 2 Gohan beat Z Broly?
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>>286240894
Most of them haven't seen the Zly movies and just know him by memes and that garbage TFS version of movie 8. They did completely fuck his character up in Second Coming, and Bio-Broly isn't even Broly, but in the first movie he is written as a truly horrifying antagonist and that's what his character reflects. Nuly quite literally does not speak a single coherent line during his entire fight with Vegeta and Goku, which is just embarrassing.
>>286240912
Nice lack of an argument, Superzoomer.
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>I AM... LE MISUNDERSTOOD!!!
No smart adult likes this retard. Zly is infinity better written.
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Hip Hip, HOORAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>286240989
Killin...
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Mindbroken.
Done annnnnnnnnnd DONE!

Another victory for me and Nuly, like normal.
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While we're on that subject, it's a pretty solid litmus test for retardation when you see someone claiming that Zly hates Goku for crying next to him as a baby instead of realizing that he associates that crying with the fucking traumatic events he went through just after it happened. His broken psyche translates that trauma into an obsessive hatred for Goku because that's the only coherent source of said trauma he's able to fixate on, especially with Paragus fucking with his head and using him as a living weapon.
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I knew you would fall for the bait and look for an out because you can't beat this debate by pure fact. Zly is stronger and a better character than Nuly.
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>>286240916
SS2 kid Gohan is the benchmark.
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>>286241051
Nuly can destroy the multiverse
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>>286241068
Nuly can't destroy a metal collar.
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KEK, what a stupid dog.
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>>286241104
There are animals who are more vocal than this
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>>286241057
...in opposite day.
>>286241068
Correct.
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>>286241177
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Goku forgives you
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Broly, more commonly known as Nuly, is a young Saiyan currently living on Beerus's planet. Known as a gentle giant, he is very kind to his friends but will slam his fists down hard on evil. He has interests in animal care and archeology, and he is still trying to figure out what he wants to study when he has enough money saved for college. He is a close confidant to both Goku and Bejita, he is too humble to call himself the leader of the Z Fighters, but they tend to go to him for his wisdom. Currently, Nuly is developing a new Saiyan martial art with Whis, focused on grappling and ki blasts. Beerus has something of a one sided rivalry with Nuly, but Nuly is more concerned with his own growth and education instead of obsessing over beating others. He has plans to eventually move to West City with Cheelai. Cheelai loves Nuly and she respects his beliefs about not having sex until they are married.
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>>286241177
Zly's ending:
>does not take a single ounce of damage before tanking a punch from Goku that is likely SS3 strength or higher, and it STILL doesn't kill him
Nuly's ending:
>screams in fear as Gogeta's Kamehameha bears down on him to take his life, has to be saved by discount green Bulma and Shenron, then Goku gives him handouts while he continues to live in isolation on his shitty cuck planet
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Nuly, more commonly known as "Who?? Oh, that weak comic relief jobber. What a shit character" is the weakest and most pathetic character in Dragon Ball history. He currently lives somewhere that probably sucks, who fucking cares? He's a loser and a terrible character.
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>ZSHITly's ending
Dies like a bitch.
>NuGODly's ending
Retires as the strongest, defeated a fusion and fucks Cheelai daily

Yup YUP!
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>she respects his beliefs about not having sex until they are married

Because she gets that purple from someone else
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>>286241294
This was the last thing Toriyama wrote before he passed.
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Zly was actually so powerful, when Goku punched him at his weak spot it made his energy implode and nearly killed him because he was so powerful. Zly was defeated because he was too strong.
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>>286241294
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Who pissed off Tienrus
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TITAN
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>>286241243
That's my hero!
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>>286241412
>angel wings
Did Cheelai die?
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>>286241438
Zly fucked her to death, by her own request.
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>>286241438
Afraid so. She killed herself after realizing she wasted her time with Nuly. The drawing is from Nuly's point of view where he thinks she died from food poisoning and loved him.
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>>286241384
The regulars.
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>>286241521
...and then Beerus was surpassed by Nuly. Poetic!
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>>286241521
Which implies Beerus is noncanon btw. Yup yup.
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Buu would have died to this
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>>286241768
Krillinccolo or Piccillin.
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>>286240164
They should have leaned into the concept of Broly just constantly getting stronger for no reason in second coming by having him fight ultimate gohan instead of rusty dog shit early buu saga gohan who is questionably even in SSJ2. Could have kept his aura by ragdolling the strongest non-fused character of the mainline series Z.

DBZ Multiverse handled Z broly way better.
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Dolphinbros? Are we still relevant?
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>>286240912
How?
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>Multiverse
Discarded. No one likes that French fanfic.
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>>286241929
>More pointless Broly wank

Glad this guy died to Jobhan, SS1 Tardku, SS1 Goten and Trunks.
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>>286239740
>he thinks shueisha wants to continue dragon ball now that the original creator is gone
nope.
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>Multiverse made him survive a blackhole because reasons
Shit was fucking stupid. Also,
>Rogeru
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>>286239740
Toei and Iyoku is continuing the story. We don't need kekueisha anymore.
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>>286241929
Multiverse goes too far in the other direction. Regular LSS Broly gaping Buu is stupid, should at least be LSS3 or something.
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>>286242121
you don't know what happens in a black hole. They may not kill anybody, even a normal human.
i don't know what happens in a black hole either
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Gokubros...
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>every timeskip be like
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>>286242121
Why is the writing here so awkward? Is Salagir going senile and forgetting his English?
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>>286242191
it's kino though
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlCj2GOuAIg&
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>>286240916
they did fight in the 2nd movie and Broly was rolling him, that was after he almost died and presumably became stronger though.
in the first movie they would've been close to even I think.
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>>286242127
>Iyoku
Please no.
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>supershit
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Reminder that Bejita's last thoughts were of Goku
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>>286242403
Doomsday would kill Gokek as well.
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>even in fanfiction Pan is still a useless damsel
lol
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>>286242266
Because he ran out of ideas and panels to trace
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>>286242434
Proof?
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>>286242467
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>>286242439
some of the guest chapters have been traced to shit yeah.
the main artists have been pretty solid though.
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>>286242431
>>286242512
why are girls always upset when a prettier girl is nearby
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>>286242435
>be DBM Bejita
>trained hard for 20 years after Buu's defeat
>learned Super Saiyan 3 and Instant Transmission on your own
>learn the same Not-Ultra Instinct transformation as Goku without him knowing
>job to your inferior alternate self who only achieved Super Saiyan 3 yesterday because he was given anti-time stop magic from some old wizard
Multiversefags will say this is the best writing ever.
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The rekt duo.
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>>286242540
I kneel.
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>DBM

The whole verse is unironically weaker than the actual EoZ, Super, GT, Evolution and Daima btw.
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>>286242431
I never paid attention to Erasa's armpits before.......
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>>286242665
True. Don't characters have capped potentials in DBM, too? Like Ultimate Gohan being incapable of getting stronger? KWAB if true.
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>>286240665
If no other character speaks like that, then it's safe to assume that Pan was trained by Majin Buu. If she was intelligent enough to outsmart her own family, then any claims about her being stupid will be automatically rejected.
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>>286242788
Pan is stronger than Cell.
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>>286242709
They're jobbing to time stop, something Goku and Jiren easily overcame via sheer strength.
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>>286242562
Wtf is even happening with the story now? Why are the 2 Bejitas fighting in some time freeze?
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>>286242925
>Guldo with a laser gun could solo DBM
Kekychooky!
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>>286242709
DBM Goku's base powers are much weaker. EoZ/GT/Super Goku base form is equal or higher than Kid Buu.
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By the way, we secretly love Bejita here.
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>Buu is reincarnated into an Indian.

No villain has a worse fate than that.
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>>286243302
Seriously, what did Toriyama mean by that?
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https://files.catbox.moe/ni2o6d.mp4

uhhh Trunksbros? Our response???
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>>286242709
>Don't characters have capped potentials in DBM, too? Like Ultimate Gohan being incapable of getting stronger?
Yes, he wholeheartedly believes this.
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>>286242175
We...do know, though. These things have been extensively studied by people with levels of intelligence and scientific comprehension you would quite literally not even be able to fathom.
Are you fucking stupid?
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>>286242937
Quick rundown.
Some alien tried to enter her unborn child in the tournament. It's not born in time so it's eliminated.
A long fucking time later the baby is born as an android fighter. He says he's going to kill everyone at the tournament because they're all strong and dangerous. He has the ability to stop time like Guldo but it doesn't work on artificial beings like the androids (17 and 18 are cyborgs not robots but they can still move for whatever reason). Anyway he jobs.
The main villain Not!Moro actually manages to learn the time stop technique and he uses it to RAPE and GAPE Goku, winning the tournament.
Not!Moro gets a wish as a prize, he was about to wish for something bad but Vegito and Salagir's oc Gast jump his ass before he can. Not!Moro triggers a massive explosion and casts the time stop everywhere, freezing everything.
Not!Moro recruits all the villains like Evil Bejita (this is just rehashing the Majin plot) to find the Dragon Balls and he grants them immunity to the timestop.
Piccolo creates a technique that makes Namekians form a protective bubble immune to the timestop by...vibrating their antennae? Salagir gave up here. That's why our Bejita needs to hold that Namekian to fight Evil Bejita.
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>>286243428
Yeah, if Broly actually survived a black hole, he would be pasta.
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>>286243428
Post the scans then if we know what's beyond the event horizon.
Current working models of physics suggests a singularity since we don't know anything that can resist gravity at that point, which most scientists admit is probably based on incomplete information and not actually the case.

It could be a portal for all we know.
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>>286243496
NUH UH HE WOULD TANK IT BECAUSE HIS POWER IS MAXIUM
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>>286243508
So you've gone from claiming we have no idea to claiming that we do have an idea (which is just one idea out of several).
I accept your concession.
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>>286242788
Canonically this guy is weaker than toddler Pan.
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>>286243544
it could be literally anything, we just don't know.
also spaghettification is a non-issue with supermassive black holes.
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I would really like everyone to quit discussing Pan’s gaping black hole >>286242788
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>>286243595
>goes back to saying "w-we don't know!"
Cope, dog, cope.
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>>286243670
post the scans
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>>286243386
>furry femboy roblox porn
Jirenpal...
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>>286242753
No intelligent person would purposely talk like that. Pan talking that way and her connection with Majin Buu make me think that she may not have received a stimulating education...
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>>286243718
You were told to fucking cope, is that code for "keep babbling like a STUPID piece of brown SHIT" in your favela?
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Krillin survived a blacked hole.
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>>286243802
>can't post the scans
i accept YOUR concession
have fun in the kennel
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>>286240231
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>you don't know what happens in a black hole
Trunks certainly does.
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Daima >>>> Super & GT
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>>286243943
They all look shit to me. DB and DBZ are the only good ones.
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Why does Goku need to eat if he's already dead during the 7 years?
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>>286244005
>Toei fan-fiction
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>>286243943
What episode of One Piece is this?
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>>286244075
so, is it up to Toei to give more depth to the characters?
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>>286243985
This.
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>>286244127
Yes? The original creator is fucking dead.
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>>286244127
Yup. Toei invented Supermanku (Everyone loves). They were forced to create Tardku at the wishes of Toriyama.
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>>286239778
Gohans face in the last couple of seconds: …fuck….
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>>286243990
>>286244039
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Goku won.
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>>286240647
This, it was always team vs team. Goku just insisted on fighting 1v1, which is fair in a way because Nappa and Vegeta fought alone.
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>>286244862
...the Special Olympics.
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Chichi's lips remain dry...somebody has to kiss them!!!
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>>286245006
I'm just the person for this job.
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>>286245047
Ok!!!! Put those ebony colored lips upon her orifices!!!
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I'm just glad dragon ball is better managed than this.
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>>286244029
Because extraordinary warriors get to keep their bodies when they die, speedwatcher-kun.
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>>286245296
kek
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What is Mai doing here?
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Bring me Jiren.
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>>286245363
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>>286245296
>that .webm
Kek'd.
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just watched this video. These couples are so much better it's not even funny. Toriyama fucked it up.
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>>286245844
Goku's child would just be Trunks.
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>>286246001
that's the idea. Future Trunks and Future Gohan being brothers
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Jiren lost the Tournament of Power.
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Bulma had sex with other men than Vegeta canonically.
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Fact : Everyone loves Tenshinhan.
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>>286246226
>>286246366
Truth.

>>286246379
He is boring.
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>>286245719
Who the fuck stops him if they decide to kill you? He can literally rewrite the universe to fuck you over
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So Asuka won?
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>>286246366
>headcanon cope
>shitty edits
Pathetic.
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>>286245719
Weaker? Than Hal Jordan.
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>>286246553
>jobs to the yellow color
KEKKYPOW!
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>characters who need more screentime
Tien, Yamcha, Chiaotzu.
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18 and Bee Bee Sea.
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>>286247056
Go on.
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>>286239422
She's emulating her hero how cute
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Less of the J
More of the P
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Post something that is so funny everyone in the thread will reply with the word funnyroo
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>>286247311
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>>286247311
I got one: Nuly is a good character.
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>>286247311
I am the hope of the universe, the protector of the innocent, the light in the darkness. I will always fight evil and tyranny wherever and whenever I find it. I'm going to hang every fucking nigger on earth, and kill every chink and every brown fucking spic too. I'm going to murder every single human being in the world who isn't white. I will never rest until all wickedness in the universe has been destroyed.
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>>286247393
funnyroo
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>>286247385
Funnyroo and KBC
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>>286245844
I wish Chi-Chi was my wife...
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>>286247641
This is better than anything in Super
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>>286247424
A true American hero...
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>>286246712
Bejita is canonically Raditz’ father
Prima nocta refers to the historical practice in which a lord claimed the right to have unprotected baby making sweaty sexual intercourse with tongue with a subordinate's bride on the first night of her marriage.
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Americanku is so kino.

https://youtu.be/ZzTDGInkZ0Q&t=11
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>>286248177
But enough about Tien
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Jiren is absolute.
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>>286249744
KEKYPOOPOO
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>>286249404
..ly weak.
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Goku, Vegeta, Beast Gohan, Orange Piccolo, Beerus, Whis, Broly, and Jiren job to Gokuwmon.
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Jiren literally solos your hero so whatever you say to me can't hurt me.
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Vegeta? Who the fuck is that?
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>>286251022
The character that you are obsessed with.
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>>286251022
Me
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adventures???
where?

in DAIPA WONDERLAND of course LOL
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Ore wa Supa Vegeta
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>>286251298
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>>286240916
Broly tanked the miracle punch so he'd probably lay Gohan out by himself. If Goku were there and did a miracle punch they probably could have finished him off and avoided the second movie.
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>>286251524
>it took a 1000x multiplier on top of SS to beat Zly
HOLY FUARRKING FUCK!!! What a DEVIL!!!
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>>286251585
This
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>>286251022
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>>286251524
That's pretty much what happens in the second movie. Broly only lost because he got cocky.
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>>286251167
did Bulma ever actually wear the bunnygirl fit outside of the covers?
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>>286251524
>GODgeta gave Goku a 1000x boost
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Zly is the ultimate
Nuly is the trash
Simple as
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>>286252382
For me, it was SSJ3 Goku (End)
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>>286251524
Broly survived second coming.
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So hypothetically if the sonic universe were to be fused into the DBZ universe by way of chaos control and/or the dragonballs, how would you think that would play out? Like what if Dr eggman had found dr gero's research or ddiscovered the dragonballs, etc. Then sonic and shadow could fuse with goku and vegeta so that they might have a chance at beating zly
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Have you apologized to our lord and saviour Toyotarou-sensei today? Don't forget your daily prostrations, scholars.
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>>286251524
>CHADly survived a 1000x boosted punch on top of the 50x SSJ multiplier
HOLY MOTHER OF TANKS!
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>>286240894
Zly talks to much. He waxes poetic like a fucking fag. I don't watch Dragon Ball for gay edgy grandstanding. I watch Dragon Ball for action. Nuly is pure action. He's a fuarking BEAST that doesn't pause to gloat or monologue like all the other villains. He's a true saiyan WARRIOR.
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>>286252698
Is this the guy who couldn't open a water bottle?
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>>286252660
Goku's half-brother is so cool...
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>>286252698
>a true saiyan WARRIOR
...who had to be saved by his girlfriend while he was shitting his pants at Gogeta's attack.
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>>286251780
Yeah, it was just after they first met Yamcha.
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>>286252698
How cucked do you have to be to wear a collar?
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>>286252739
>NOOOOO SAIYANS CAN'T SHOW FEAR OR EMOTIONS BECAUSE......... THEY JUST CAN'T, OKAY?!
Are you implying Zly wasn't pissing his FUCKING pants as he barreled towards the sun? Showing emotion is not contradictory to being a saiyan warrior.
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>>286252756
>red bunnysuit Bulma
Now THAT is cursed.
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>>286252756
Oolong was the first gooner.
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I like Zly.
I like Nuly.
Hell, I even like BIO-ly.
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>>286247641
The recreation of this in Ultimate Tenkaichi was gigakino.
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>>286252792
>Zly wasn't pissing his FUCKING pants as he barreled towards the sun
Yeh, he wasn’t. Only Cooler did that. Zly was shouting expletives at Goku as he died like a true chad.
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>>286252950
Bio-Broly is a certified beater of women so he also gets a pass in my book.
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The Saiyans deserved their destruction btw.
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>>286253182
Wait is this Freezer?
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>>286253182
Baby...
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>>286253182
Chichi.....
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>>286253267
... don't hurt me.
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>>286253182
Krillin (intoxicated)...
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>>286253166
Nain (pic related) had the hots for him.
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Toei was way too retarded tbqh, they wasted 6 years with SHARTma and now they are doing a remake in like 2 and half? Doesn't that mean the animation quality will be shit considering Daipa looks like vomit except for the recap?
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>>286253182
sneed...
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>>286253392
This is quite worrying, daipa looked like shit a lot of times and all they had to do was draw fat fucks and scrawny midgets.
If things somehow go well it will be basically a fucking miracle.
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>>286253392
It will be passable, or at least so dressed up in sfx like wanpiss that the average person might not notice how hollow it actually is. You’ll never see a return to proper choreography though, that’s over.
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Goku will be the best pirate king ever.
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>>286253579
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I think Jiren is gay.
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>>286253972
*gray
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>>286252855
Oolong was a certified freak who would have 100% fucked master roshi while transformed as Bulma if he wasn't stopped. Probably the only character anons in this thread have an actual chance with.
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>>286254087
I have a shot with Marcarita since according to Toyo she likes clowns.
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SSJPage5
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BEJITA WON
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>>286254722
… the… uh… something contest…
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Goku and Vados, Bejita and Mugi, Spopovich and Videl, 18 and Bee Bee Sea, Chichi and Gohan.
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>>286251524
>SSJ2 is a 2x multiplier on top of SSJ
>SSJ3 is an 8x multiplier on top of SSJ
>Goku's punch had a 1000x multiplier
Z Broly in Movie 8 alone solos the entire Buu Saga.
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>c-caulifla is a female goku! she uhmmm likes to eat and she likes to fight (literally every fucking Saiyan ever) just like goku does! yup, female goku!
>but what about goten and trunks? they asspulled ssj too! i don't see hate for them!
>gohan gets undeserved power ups too!
Why are Cauliflafags like this instead of not just accepting that their poorly written waifu is a poorly written character?
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>>286254886
Bejita legitimately beat the shit out of Freezer in RoF. What are they asking for?
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>>286242175
You actually do know what happens.
Because this universe exists within a black hole.
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>>286254996
People think U6 has a counterpart for everything in U7. Fair considering Frost, but they get really stupid with it. I hate the Goku = Caulifla thing people try to force. They're nothing alike, at all. At best, you can headcanon that MAYBE Kakarot would have been bitchy like Caulifla, but we all know that's unlikely.
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>>286254996
Polarization of opinions extends to fans these days too. You can't both like Caulifla and think she could be a better character, that's wrongthink. You either love her or hate her, no nuance accepted.
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>>286254996
The coom in their brains overpowers logic and reason.
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Nobody cares about Caulifla. The only Saiyans that will EVER matter are Goku and Bejita.
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>>286255325
...and Gohan.
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>>286255376
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>>286255325
...and Tablos.
>wh-
The original SSJ5, spawning a whole culture of AF jokes eventually leading to Toyo getting hired for the Super manga, leading to the Moro arc adaptation currently in production. Without him it never would have existed.
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>>286254996
Caulifla is literally the Vegeta equivalent. She's the leader of their group, she's abrasive and starts acting like a bitch when she's losing, and much shorter than average. Who does that remind you of?
There's nothing Goku-like about her, the only way you could say that with a straight face is if you never read the manga or watched the anime.

Despite the Broly allusions Kale is clearly closer to what Kakarot would've been like, especially considering Nudock and Gine's influences.
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>>286254996
This phenomenon goes both ways. Shinji Ikari is an often hated character but the same personality traits on a girl would be waifu bait.
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>>286252698
True. STRONGESTTALLESTUNDEFEATEDly is the greatest character.
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>>286255050
"Beating the shit out" does not equal "winning"
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>>286253392
Why are you comparing making an anime from scratch and remaking an old anime?
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>>286256772
frieren low diffs entire dbzverse
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>>286256781
Yup, yup.
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GokuDAMN...
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>>286254996
She has all of Goku's negative traits while having non of his good traits. Of course shes annoying.
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>>286256772
*Freeza blows up planet*
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>mfw my distant father is now 60 years old instead of being stuck in 40's
>visited him recently and he has gray hair all wrinkly and missed some teeth
>laler sister confessed he flew to another city to get an operation
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>>286237660
I feel like GT fucked up Uub so badly that no one ever wants to see him or give him a chance ever again. Even 30 years later, fans still get steamed over Uub sucking.
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>>286258210
>vore
What?
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>>286253334
Funny
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Thor solos.
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>>286254812
Do the math
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>>286254886
>Pigjitabros begging the author to give him a win

Holy fucking kek Bejitabros
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>>286258687
>androids living rent free in his head as he's dying

Gero won.
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We need some art of Caulifla and Kale as naked babies with their cute little slits visible like baby Goku.
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>>286258556
You are too pure for this thread
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>mean green is here
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>>286251780
I can't believe that level of zooming right here
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>790
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>>286259002
Cui won that fight.
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>>286240806
>having nuked an entire galaxy
and yet was beaten in once punch by the weakened z fighters
> the audience immediately feels a sense of dread
because they were afraid of the fact that someone who apaprently blows up galaxies for fun is having trouble with weaklings
> Broly's personality and lines then reinforce what has already been established for his character.
He is just a typical, motive-less edgelord. Super Broly manages to be much more interesting, since he has actual nuance instead of being a card carrying villain with zero depth.
>You're meant to feel pity for him, which no one with a functioning brain would because his character wasn't well established enough
Nobody with a well funtctioning brain would ever think ZBroly was more than a generic movie antagonist, though, as he's nothing special besides the movie telling us he is sooooo powerful (which he isn't, really.)
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>>286259041
That's Cui lol
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>>286240894
>>Zly could actually talk
So did Nuly, though, and it made much more sense for him to be a bit stunted regarding his speech than Broly suddenly being eloquent for two whole scenes.
>>286252698
It also makes zero sense for him to suddenly speak like a chuuno teen when he has been mind controlled his entire life.
Zly "fans" (contrarians) have zero validity.
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>>286259002
could goku have beaten cui on earth?
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>>286259106
cui would find a way to job
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My foarking HERO!
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>>286259153
Why does Piccolo care about children with no parents so much?
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>>286259169
Because he was an orphan as well
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Top 3 DB cunny?
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>>286259268
You need to get Haki'd
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>>286254996
>Why are Cauliflafags like this
Caulifla is nothing like Gokek, both have a fighting spirit (typical of the Saiyan kind), but their personalities are completely different, Gokek is chill and even naive, Caulifla is brash and aggressive. Both want to be the strongest, but their approach to challenge is visibly different, Gokek gets super excited when he meets a stronger opponent, Caulifla does enjoy the challenge too, but she gets annoyed / butthurt she's not the #1.

>instead of not just accepting that their poorly written waifu is a poorly written character?
Caulifla isn't poorly written like Goten and Kid Trunks are. We don't know much about U6 Saiyans, they might have more potential than U7 Saiyans.

>but half-Saiyan / half-Human hybrids have high potential too
Yet the narrative keeps acting like Gohan is an outlier even for half-Saiyan standards, but 7~8 year old Gohan wasn't as strong as Goten and Trunks in spite of training far harder than them.

Worse, Kid Trunks is somehow stronger than his own alternate timeline counterpart at the same age, he could handle 150x gravity even in base, etc...all because he liked to spar / play with Goten every now and then.

>Super Saiyan
Caulifla, an adult woman, unlocked Super Saiyan during a time where the Super Saiyan transformation was fodder. Kid Trunks and Goten unlocked it playing with each other during a time where Super Saiyan was still semi-relevant.
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>>286259251
>Piccolo is an orphan
holy fnafic bnatman!
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>>286258687
Why does this look so good, and why can't Shitper look like this?
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You're not an adult unless you are ready to accept that it's the best way to relive DBZ if you grew up watching it on toonami
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>>286259311
Is he not by definition an orphan (Piccolo Jr aka our Kamiccolail)?
>sole parent was killed by Goku and he was born parentless as a result
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>>286259443
>Buu
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>>286259453
Sucks
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>>286259443
I grew up watching the original Toonami run of Z and I either watch it with the original Faulconer score or the sub version of the Dragon Boxes. I stopped watching TFS around the Freeza Arc.
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>>286259443
... and feel like torturing yourself by watching a total piece of shit "parody" made by faggots.
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>>286242788
Why is he smiling
He should have a disgusted look on his face, like when you accidentally crush a bug too hard and it gets all over your hand.
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>>286242861
...'s embryo form.
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>>286259533
He's smiling because he did a good deed. I'm sure every other character is cheering for him off-screen.
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>>286254812
21 and my cock
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>>286259443
Nothing about DBZA is like watching DBZ on toonami. Hell, none of its jokes are that good.
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>>286259677
Yup, I called it.
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>>286259677
>it's just another shitty lobby simulator instead of a spiritual successor to DBO
Videotoy fans will still buy this shit btw.
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>>286259677
Yep, time to make my Saiyan OC and have him beat up human Z Fighters 200 times again.
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>>286259677
John will break the internet.
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>>286259443
TFS has aged like milk with every other joke being 'hahaha gay this gay that' and the other half of them being outdated references and dead memes.
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>>286259094
>when he has been mind controlled his entire life
You can see in the flashback he’s in his late teens to adulthood when Paragus puts the device on him. He’s had plenty of time to learn how to talk, and he even talks normally as he’s waking up then.
It doesn’t even make sense for Nuly to be retarded. Even if he only had nuParagus for company, nuParagus doesn’t speak like a retard either. We can see from the candy bar scene that nuParagus has clearly made efforts to teach Nuly manners, but there’s no real reason why it doesn’t stick. He’s retarded just because. They don’t even establish any instances of head injuries or actual near-death experiences or anything, like Zly at least had which contributed to him being a schizo. All Nuly has is that his dad’s kind of an asshole SOMETIMES.
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>>286259677
will buy if they include the whole fucking story
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>>286259677
If it doesn’t have an Android race like Heroes I don’t care.
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>>286259720
FVARK
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>>286259677
Those fuckers better add Legendary Super Saiyan as an Awoken Skill this time.
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>>286259769
This technique would've one-shotted Buu btw.
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>shotted
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>shotted
Based.
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>>286259677
LET'S FUCKING GO XENOBROS!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>286260017
Shooted? Shatted? Shat? Nigga i don't know, it's just a word, as long as you understand it it's well writted.
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>>286260017
>recent interview
H-how!?
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So all of the stuff about Toriyama working closely with Bamco to make Project 1000 was total horseshit, right? Why would Toriyama suddenly get involved with Xenoturd?
If it were a spiritual successor to DBO, it would've made more sense, since he was actually fairly involved with DBO, and it was a pretty expansive game, so it would've justified such a long time in the oven with his direct guidance.
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>>286259002
Is that a shitty old scan from the Planet Namek website?
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>>286260101
"Toriyama worked closely with Bamco" = "Toriyama designed a couple of characters for the game"
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>>286259677
>Xenoverse 2 finally stops support after 100000000000000000000000000000000 years
Wow!
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>>286260103
Seems like it. The page is also reversed so people can read it from left to right like in western comics.

OG by comparison.
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>>286260155
You do own all the DLC, like a real fan, right?
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>Xenoverse 3
Wow! I can't wait for yet ANOTHER story where we go around and fix timelines. I can't wait to fight Raditz, but stronger again!
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>>286259677
>another 10 years of Xenoverse
Insane dedication after the first game was actually shit on pretty hard when it came out
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>>286260209
Of course.
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>>286259677
If this is real then why didn't they just say it is Xenoverse 3 from the start? It seems like a retarded decision.
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>>286260247
The first game did suck hard. 2 improved a ton but still has a ways to go. Hopefully 3 will be close to what the people need, but at this point it’s been so long that there’s no telling what they’ll actually improve or expand on or what they’ll scale back. This is bamco, after all.
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>>286260435
I want 3d printable files of hero colosseum figures
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>>286260101
>Why would Toriyama suddenly get involved with Xenoturd?
Marketing

Toriyama's name alone sells
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>>286260404
This franchise is genuinely mismanaged to shit. A lot of them are, like bamco doesn’t know how to do anything. But they’re uniquely incompetent with this and Gundam.
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>>286260101
It’s horseshit every time it’s been said. DBS, Daima, and now this.
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>>286260428
Bitch, please.
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>>286259773
I feel like NuParagus is a better father than Z Paragus. The collar thing is pretty bad but it's ultimately for Broly's own safety rather than trying to control him
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>>286260519
https://youtube.com/watch?v=G8z0gbJLufc&pp=ygUWcmVtaW5kZWQgZHJvd25pbmcgcG9vbA%3D%3D
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>>286260101
>So all of the stuff about Toriyama working closely with Bamco to make Project 1000 was total horseshit, right?
It's objectively true because he designed this "John" guy. Yes, designing a character = closely involved.
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Just ate 37 eggs for breakfast
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>>286260623
How the fuck is Goku Black even fighting SSB Gojita? That's like if Krillin fought Beerus and was only slightly losing
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>>286260688
He got stronger. Not enough, of course.
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>>286260652
Those better be ostrich eggs, little man. You still have a long way to go if you wanna be a Gokubro.
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>>286260623
KWABB
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>>286259769
I feel like Super fucked up Vegeta so badly that no one ever wants to see him or give him a chance ever again. Even 10 years later, fans still get steamed over Vegeta sucking.
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>>286260623
Why didn't Goku go SSB3 against Jiren?
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>>286260067
KEK
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>>286260067
Kbc!
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>>286230186,2
>Despite what I've just said about Super, I would prefer it to not exist at all. Infact, when you consider the types that enjoy Super, it reaffirms my believe that it shouldn't be apart of the original Dragon Ball. That's why I would be happy to see Super be incorporated as a dream and nothing more.
I feel the same way, but for it to be incorporated as a dream, that would mean that Super is a part of the original story, and I just can't accept that, the only good thing about Super is that it has its own manga, meaning that it's not in fact a part of the original work, but something based on it.
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>>286260623
>needed Goku and Bejita to fuse to defeat him
Yep.
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>>286260588
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>RTH
Go back to your archive, giga turd rat.
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>>286258998
I would shoot my web into her.
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>>286261341
>genuine Dragon Ball discourse
Finally.
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>>286261507
I like GT but I'll allow this because I also hate the panpedo.
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>>286261626
... I can be laid to rest!
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GT is bad. That seems like a platitude, but it isn’t. If you enjoy GT you genuinely just like lowest of the low lowest common denominator slop. There was no thought but into it at all, they pivoted 180 degrees and dropped the entire premise half way into the rushed production because they had no genuine vision nor commitment to the story. It was the product of toei panicking trying to keep a gravy train going long after the artist that inspired dragon ball had ceased to give a shit. Its creation was entirely cynical and soulless, market driven and devoid of any originality of artistic merit- and this is by the standard of anime, which is already low in that regard. If you waste your time watching this mind numbing shit you are genuinely just stupid, it’s not a matter of taste either since even guilty pleasure slop typically has some spark of humanity or entertainment value in it. This does not. It’s machine produced tasteless shit that not even retarded asian children wanted to watch, being a grown man and trying to “seriously” discuss it is genuinely the most embarrassing and pathetic thing I can think of.
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>>286262008
??
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>>286262053
Well said, scholar.
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>>286262053
True.
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Super is bad. That seems like a platitude, but it isn’t. If you enjoy Super you genuinely just like lowest of the low lowest common denominator slop. There was no thought but into it at all, they pivoted 180 degrees and dropped the entire premise from the beginning because they had no genuine vision nor commitment to the story. It was the product of toei panicking trying to keep a gravy train going long after the artist that inspired dragon ball had experienced exhaustion. Its creation was entirely cynical and soulless, market driven and devoid of any originality of artistic merit- and this is by the standard of anime, which is already low in that regard. If you waste your time watching this mind numbing shit you are genuinely just stupid, it’s not a matter of taste either since even guilty pleasure slop typically has some spark of humanity or entertainment value in it. This does not. It’s machine produced tasteless shit that no one would want to watch, being a grown man and trying to “seriously” discuss it is genuinely the most embarrassing and pathetic thing I can think of.
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>copy paste because his brain is incapable of originality and you don’t have a soul
You LOVE GT.
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>>286262144
Well said, scholar.
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>>286262144
>squaawwwkk squaaaawwwwkkkkk
Huh?
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>>286261154
Goku’s retarded.
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>GT bug can’t even type an original reply
Why are they so devoid of any sort of inner spark? Do you think GT fans have no internal monologue?
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>>286262144
Super had toriyama’s involvement. Unlike GT.
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>>286262053
Truke.
>>286262144
Puke.
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>>286262281
>blatant revisionism
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>>286262053
I mean it's kind of hard to keep interest when there's more interesting anime to watch in the 90s, and not to mention newer series coming out like One Piece and Naruto.
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>>286262281
Sure it did.
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>>286262349
>One Piece and Naruto
Yikes.
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>>286262144
True. I think GT is worse btw.
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>>286262349
Also the fact that GT to anyone who isn’t autistic and has a concept of taste is obviously terrible. Poorly written, paced and animated. It was rushed and it shows, there’s zero thought put into it. Stop defending a bad product just because whatever gene allows a human being to detect quality is not present in your aspergers DNA.
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>>286262349
Rally Vincent, my wife!
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>>286262351
I mean, Toei (nor any marketing team) would ever have gone for the whole ending of the Future Trunks arc. Even if doing a Future Trunks arc in the first place happened due to appealing to the market, you can see Toriyama's fingers all over how the arc actually turns out.
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Super doesn't have GOAT villains like Baby, Super 17 and the Shadow Dragons.
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>>286262349
>One Piece and Naruto
Who?
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>>286262502
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>super fans
Fan artists, culture creators (heavily influenced modern 4chan), funny, creative, make OC
>GT fans
Masturbate into figurines of children and upload it for other men on the internet to see. Have never made a single meme or a single valid or interesting point about anything. Everyone in the thread G’s them
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>>286262432
Bill Collins...
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>>286262144
Based take
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>>286262349
People here really underestimate how popular Naruto was before Burrito. It was the /dbs/ before /dbs/, it had the most autistic fans and haters. Retarded shipping wars, power scaling etc.
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>>286262573
>Retarded shipping wars, power scaling etc.
If you go check the Naruto daily that's mostly what it is today as well.
I'm pretty sure Bortshit only made things worse.
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>>286262440
What they did to Trunks universe has Toei's stench all over it, There's no way that such a shitty story came from Toriyama's mind.
Pic related.
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>>286262633
>There's no way that such a shitty story came from Toriyama's mind.
This is why toriyama never displayed any awareness of GT
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>>286262633
>There's no way that such a shitty story came from Toriyama's mind.
I would say the same but he also wrote DB Minus, so...
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>>286262144
>they had no genuine vision nor commitment to the story
This was already irrefutable after that dogshit Goku Black arc, but the subsequent arcs only continued to prove this to be true.
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>>286262672
>This is why toriyama never displayed any awareness of GT
This matter was settled years ago by Toriyama himself.
https://www.kanzenshuu.com/translations/dragon-book-gt-toriyama-intro/
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>>286262520
>purposefully omitting the scatren ordeal
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>>286262864
True, but he was most likely asked to give some pointers. I doubt that he was the one who wrote it from start to finish.
Anyway, that story is complete garbage, it's like Raditz isn't even their son.
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>>286263066
Raditz is King Bejita's weak bastard though.
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Toriyama’s reputation has really oversold his actual talents. It took a LOT of wrangling to get his work to the point that we can now call it a masterpiece. Without them breathing down his neck for stuff like DBS you can really see his flaws on display.
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>>286263211
>added content that appealed to girl readers
KWAB!
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>>286263066
>>286263416
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>>286256073
He won in a fight, fair and square.
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>>286263483
He let Frieza blow up the Earth right in front of him like a retard. In some ways, it's even dumber than Goku getting KO'd by Sorbet's laser.
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>>286263066
Raditz is literally not their son, he's King Vegeta's that he passed onto them to force them to raise. Gine only had Kakarot.
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>>286263559
>Raditz is literally [Headcanon supreme burrito]



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