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This is the most overrated outfit in the entire series and I don't get why people keep acting like it's the best thing ever.
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>>286262502
He's the hero of time.
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>>286262502
*underrated
Sorry, typo
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My GOAT!
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Kek.
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>>286262560
Based
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>>286262502
Because Gohan is wearing a tight spandex suit underneath and it shows off his big muscles and massive bulge.
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>>286262525
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Good morning gentlemens
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Puar solos my verse...
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>>286262615
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>>286262525
Give me some pleasure.
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>TARDshinhan: Woa Guko you strong so strong I'm gettin excitecd!!
>TARDjita: So some super pooper andriods are gonna kil we all!? Nobody stop them I want to fight them and I'll KEEL anyone who tries to stop them from activating!!!
>TARDku: Waku Waku AMAZIN IDEA BEJITA-SAMA GUHUH!!
>Tardlin: I sure hope one of'em robots is sexy so I can risk the fate of the world for my boner!!
>TARDcolo: we are so strong we cannot lose! Goku you peeing yourself? YUMMY us namekians need some quality liquids!
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>>286262732
Our heroes...
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>>286262732
Luckily for them they were going against TARDell
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>>286262732
…said Bulma in a fit of rage because OUR HEROES rejected her awful plan.
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>>286262502
Goku and Piccolo's gis are just too played out, let Gohan have something different for a change
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>>286262732
I would unironically do this if I was them. Where's the fun if you just kill the enemy right away? Plus you'll get even stronger when you fight them.
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>>286262838
If I was Bulma I would have found Gero and helped him make the Androids stronger just to show how stupid the "heroes" are.
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>>286262540
KWAB
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>>286262502
It's a well-known fact that Gohan's best costume was pic related left.
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Sex with Pan!
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>>286263342
Goku...
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>>286263222
Then I would just train even harder with my HEROES and one-shot them, rendering your lesson useless.
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>>286263066
What I hate the most about Minus is that it pisses on Raditz's role in the Saiyan arc, which was to show that Goku came from a line of bastards where not only his family, but his entire race were brutal savages, unlike him. Now that we know both of his parents were actually good guys, it's Raditz who is the outlier in his family instead of Goku, which feels really stupid.
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>no TARDan
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>>286263416
They look like half-brothers. King Bejita definitely hit Gine btw.
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Toei will make him out to be Goku's half brother, I can feel it.
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>>286263538
Honestly Raditz being King Bejita's bastard son would explain a lot of things, like why he survived the planet's destruction and why Bardock never seemed to give a shit about him.
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Why didn't the women get to keep their legs?
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>>286263416
>Now that we know both of his parents were actually good guys, it's Raditz who is the outlier in his family instead of Goku, which feels really stupid
Just like Superman’s brother! (raughs)
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>>286263570
Toei/Bandai has been trying to replace Raditz with Turles in DB heroes, so >>286263613 might not be far off.
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>>286263416
There's a lot to dislike about Minus, it really waters down what was established in the manga and the anime, the Saiyans were the way they were, brutal warriors, that was an accepted fact, but now they were all kind of good people who acted like normal earth people, fuck that, the tv special was the perfect depiction of what the saiyans should be.
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>>286263644
Um... Dabura is not a women..
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>>286263644
They had no bodies.
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>>286263708
Proof?
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>>286262502
The baseball episode was neat.
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Strongest character and move in the franchise btw
>SSJ4 is a SS3 400 times multiplier with the Oozaru 10 times multiplier on top of that
>Fusion Dance is the addition of the base power of both people fusing (in this case Vegeta and Goku as SS4 with that ridiculous power multiplier already) and a further 10 times multiplier
The only character who could surpass this would be Vegito.

SSJ4 Gogeta in GT would stomp anything in Super. 'f s'.
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>>286263794
No.
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>>286263416
Is lizardbro ok?
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>>286263744
Look at his throat?
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>>286263690
They still evil even with Toriyama white-washing. They invade and kill other aliens for Freeza, but they still have their own imperial ambitions.

>>286263647
Kryptonians aren't even extinct like the Saiyans. There is Clark's family and cousins, Zod, the evil Kryptonians in the phantom zone and the city of Kandor which would be restored to normal size in many different stories.
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>>286263863
I can't, his big chin is blocking the view.
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>>286263613
>Granolah gets strong to kill the last few saiyans left alive and avenge his people
>he then unlocks super saiyan in the middle of the fight with Goku and Vegeta and realises that he's half Saiyan
Too kino for nu DB.
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>>286263823
Comedy relief monkey that got defused like Vegetto. Didn't do shit.
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>multiplier fanfic babble
The fanbase stopped doing this shit like 15 years ago.
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Jiren? Winner.
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>>286263959
His power output was so ridiculously high that he burned through it all. Simple as.
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>>286263823
Pure fanfic numbers btw. Base Cabba solos by accident.
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>>286263940
I'd think he beat gas and hold his own against Black Frieza if he was a half-saiyan with SS.
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>>286264094
Incorrect.
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DBS is honestly the worst parts of the Buu saga combined with the worst parts of the Cell saga. I can't believe how bad it is.
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>>286264468
BINGOjita is the best part of Dragon Ball btw.
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>>286264468
True.
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>>286264094
Based Cabba cant even solo my dick (4.5 inches)
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>>286264530
It's a low bar.
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>>286264468
Bejita is a great singer and dancer though.

https://youtu.be/gTIfIMZYkb4?si=_M6WQ2PYn3rRJJRD
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Grand Turd is the worst and most disrespectful anime towards its IP in the history of animation, worldwide
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>>286264094
Trvke.
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>>286264597
I think Boruto is worse.
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>>286264567
Legend of the Galactic heroes, Mobile suit Gundam and Saint Seiya is better than poopgon ball though.
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>>286264001
The fanbase stopped doing this because RoF and DBS utterly shat the bed in terms of what little consistency there still was to the scaling.
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>>286264597
It actually ties up the series surprisingly well. Baby and Shadow Dragons are kino and play in to the story well. Better than the infinite retardation that is the exploration of the God system in super, that's for sure. Super shits on everything Dragonball sets up but retconning EOZ was retarded.
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>>286264468
>BINGOgeta
Pic unrelated.
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>>286264597
The Goku Black arc alone is far more disrespectful than GT ever was, even at its worst.
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>>286264597
Super is soulless corporate schlop designed to sell merch and video games. And it's being written by another Mangaka. If that's not disrespectful then I don't know what is
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>>286264689
>>286264726
Yeah, I don't remember GT constantly retconning shit and ruining old characters like Shitper did.
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>>286264726
Why did they recon this? Was it to show that Super is in its own canon and this shouldn't be taken as canon to the original series?
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>>286264597
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>>286264766
It has a few retcons but not nearly as many or nearly as damaging as Super’s count.
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>>286264597
Trvke.
Luckily, it has been rendered inert.
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BINGO
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDa52zhFuco
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>The newfags are arguing again
*Points to sign*
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>>286264726
They literally never had to re-animate this. There was no reason for this change. They sucked literally ALL the emotion and weight out of it for nothing. Same can honestly be said about the whole arc, they treat Trunks like dogshit.
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>>286264848
I'm still mad as fuck
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>>286264815
>literally ignoring reality
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>TV special
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17 one-shotted Gohan.
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>>286264925
He never recovers from this. Embarrassing.
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>>286264910
>SS Future Trunks was weaker than Base Future Gohan
Was Future Trunks the weakest character to unlock SS?
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>>286264910
Funny how Toei did both the Trunks and Bardock special way better than Toriyama did.
Also Future Gohan getting stomped by 17 using less than half of his power in the manga feels really retarded. Even SSJ Goku from Namek could probably beat this Gohan.
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>>286264936
>Main timeline Gohan broke through the SS barrier using his rage at a robot getting broken
>Trunks timeline Gohan didn't break through the SS barrier despite his dad and all his friends dying
Kwab?
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>>286264962
Certainly seems like it. He didn't have much combat training or experience besides running from Androids and sparring with Gohan
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>>286264910
>>286264966
Toriyama really has been bad for a lot longer than we realized, huh?
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Gohan never had a chance.
>>286264962
Yup. But he can count Bardock since he's still weaker than first form Frieza. Hybrids like Goten and Trunks getting SS quickly isn't new. Anime onlys don't read.
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>>286264995
This arc really is just written like shit.
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BARBOSA SAMA!!!!!!!!!!
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>>286264995
I think SS2 requires special training, as does SS3 (Goku only got it because he had the privilege of being in the afterlife).
It took Goku and Gohan spending time in the Time Chamber to "figure it out," and then Bejita probably clued in from there.
Future Gohan never had the privilege of top-tier training like his main timeline counterpart.
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>>286265119
I mean yeah, it probably does make sense for future Gohan to be so weak, especially since he most likely gave up fighting completely by the time Goku died and the androids attacked, but it's still kind of pathetic.
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>>286265119
>I think SS2 requires special training
Fun fact - SS2 was written to be a Gohan exclusive form. It's the rage mechanic they were building up since Raditz visited combined with Super Saiyan. Simple as. This even plays in to Gohans fight against Dabura where he couldn't break in to the form because he wasn't as emotionally invested as he was when he fought Cell. It made perfect thematic sense.

Then Toriyama goes full retard and gives Goku the form, and Bejita the form when Babidi takes over his body. Stupid.
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>>286264952
>He never recovers from this. Embarrassing.
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>>286265119
>Bejita
The only time he's shown with the lightning aura mandating SS2 is when Babidi rapes him.
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>>286265119
Bejita never attains SSJ2
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>>286265217
>>286265253
Regardless of how Bejita got SS2, my point is Future Gohan lacked the circumstances to achieve it himself. No extended periods of training with prodigal fighters, no magic boosts, nothing.
I think, hypothetically, even if Future Gohan had been equal to Cell Games Gohan (base to base), Future Gohan still wouldn't achieve SS2, because he simply lacks the knowledge (or magic boosts, if we assume Bejita only got to that level after Babidi buffed him).
The Future timeline was no place for a martial artist. It was just a shitshow, and Gohan knew he was going to die eventually.
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Bejita should die and never come back.
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>>286264848
>gave his life to make sure the past had a chance
>became strong enough to go back home, protect his own era and hopefully rebuild what's left
But OOPS! it didn't matter!
>they rebuild offscreen and get reduced to the exact same point we met him at, offscreen
>trunks continues to lose every fight
>goes back to beg for help
>help arrives
>it doesn't matter
>suddenly gets a power boost just because
>it also doesn't amount to shit
>gets another power boost just because
>it doesn't matter AGAIN
>gets his universe nuked
>but it's ok because now he can go live in a timeline with another trunks where this whole arc just... didn't happen!
This arc is so much worse than pointless. If it wasn't written by Toriyama, it's straight up apocryphal. If it was written by him, then he's got to be one of the worst writers to ever live and his manga was mostly ghost-written. 20 straight weeks of wasted time.
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>>286265416
I wonder if Toei has the balls to fix this shit-heap of an arc in the remake.
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>>286264597
That would be Super, GT, no matter how bad, it never disrespected its legacy.
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>>286265454
They won’t. They don’t believe they’ve done anything wrong, because not enough of the fanbase has complained. The 3rd worlders who make up the majority don’t have the cognitive ability to recognize how bad this arc actually is, and not just this arc. So many have this same time-wasting problem that not enough pick up on.
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>>286265454
I've been thinking about that. Why are we so sure that the rest of Super is even getting a remake? They only announced BoG so if they were remaking the whole thing they would've said so at the event.
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Gohan Fans are practically Trotskyist at this point
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>>286265555
It's mostly because Geekdom keeps saying RoF and so on are getting remade even though there is 0 evidence anything beyond Battle of Chads is getting remade
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Wow, is Super really THAT bad that it needs a remake?
Maybe they should just make something new and forget it ever existed.
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>>286265326
Bejita never got SS2, he got a power boost from Babidi's magic. How would he possibly attain it when it's linked to a rage boost and he spent 7 years in peace time?
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>>286265555
>>286265583
I could've sworn there was a line in the anniversary reveal that was like "Super is back!" or something. I mean, I guess that could just be to hype up a single movie, but I was under the impression they were redoing everything while I was watching the event, and I don't watch YouTube grifters.
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>Bamco actually removed the Xenoverse 3 playlist
Holy kek, it's real lmao
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>>286265652
It said "Super BEGINS" but that doesn't mean anything obviously
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>>286265643
Not even a remake would fix it, it's bad storytelling and characterisation from the get go. The entire premise is flawed.
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>Tori and Toei were so lazy regarding the Goku Black arc that they couldn't even bother to create a new design for Vegito with the armor on
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>>286265400
He should have stayed dead on Namek 2bh would have been more interesting
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>>286265709
This was also why they got rid of the RoF outfits btw.
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>>286265709
In the original draft by Toriyama Bejitto wasn't even there. I think Toyotaro asked to include it because he thought it was cool. Toriyama agreed on the condition Zamasu would win.
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>>286265709
I think the thing that annoys me about Super is it's reliance on "member when?". It's fanservice in the worst way and it's played much worse in the anime
>Member Piccolo's stretchy arms?
>Member Kaioken?
>Member Legendary Super Saiyan?
>Member Final Flash?
>Member [insert stupid fanservice]
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TracoPaco's art + AI slop?
Is actually pretty cool
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/xn61TKpu0Y8
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>>286265693
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Come up with an idea for a new DB arc that is actually interesting. Right now.
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>>286265847
Freeza Black arc where he's trying to conquer all of the universes
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>>286265847
Goku visits my country Bangladesh
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>>286265772
It wouldn't have been so bad if Super didn't flat out refuse to do anything remotely original. Almost everything it did felt like something recycled from Z, with the movies being the worst offenders.
>RoF is just Frieza coming back
>Nuly is a rehash of Zly but now he's a good guy
>Super Hero has a shitty recolor of Cell as the villain and Gohan going Beast is just rethreading his SS2 transformation
Meanwhile the Super anime is mostly just tournaments with some of the blandest and most uninteresting characters imaginable. Zamasu was the most original Super has been and his arc was a complete dumpster fire.
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>>286265847
18, Bulma and Chichi taking thousands of bee bee sea.
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>>286265847
A proper tournament arc centred around Uub 3 years after EoZ with Goku coaching him. It's setup more like the 29th tournament, and features a call back to Jackie Chun where Goku enters until a false name to teach Uub restraint and energy conservation. Uub being a stupid inbred African can't see through the obvious disguise but manages to beat Goku by ring out. The arc shows Goku that it's truly time to pass on the protector of earth gimmick as he can't keep up with Uubs progress. At the end they decide to travel the world so Uub can get life experience, setting up an odd couples arc like the first Dragonball Arc where a clueless Goku is trying to teach Uub while also misunderstanding the world around him has changed.
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>>286265471
>never disrespected its legacy.
Turning the sons of the two remaining saiyajins into weak, pathetic and useless pieces of meat....
Turning Oob, potentially a successor of Goku,into a nothingburger jobber
bringing "back" Frieza and Cell just so they could be humiliated by "child" Tardku
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>>286266008
>centred around Uub
0/10
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>>286266008
>20th tournament*
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>>286266048
God forbid an arc follows on from EoZ right?
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>>286266088
>God forbid an arc follows character literally no one on the planet cares about
Yeah.
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>>286265847
Sidelined by his father / clan, Cooler was exiled. He ended up in Universe 6, ruling from behind the curtains while his son Frost was the public face of his empire.

After the Tournament of Power, Frost told his father about having been betrayed and defeated by "a Frieza" from Universe 7, prompting Cooler to take revenge against his spoiled younger brother and unify his empire between two universes.

>Main heroes:
Goku, Vegeta, Broly, Piccolo, Tien, Yamcha, Chiaotzu, Cabba, Caulifla, Kale, Sadala King.
>Villains
Cooler, Frost, Cooler's Armored Squadron (Salza, Dore, Neiz).
>doing his own shit to kill everyone above
Frieza.

Main battles:
• Goku + Vegeta + Piccolo + Broly vs. Final Form Cooler vs. Black Frieza (almost a battle royale like the ToP)
• Cabba + Caulifla + Kale vs. Golden Frost
• Tien + Yamcha + Chiaotzu vs. Salza + Dore + Neiz

-- Dragon Ball Super: Cooler, July 2029 --

>post-credits scene
After Cooler and Frieza's supposed deaths during the battle, Berryblue is seem talking to her scientists, they're cloning the ultimate warrior to be the new enforcer of the Galactic Empire, they're using the cells of Broly and Kale, the clone inside the holding tank looks like the original Broly.

Sources: Geekdom101, DbsHype1, SupaChronicles, AnimeAjay, Resetera
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>Xenovere 3
>Anime remake
>Moro arc animated
WE FUCKING WON
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>>286266025
Pan never turned Super Saiyan even when she becomes an old hag.
At the end, Oob is just forgotten or retconned by Toei.
The successors are essentially the diaper duo 2 reborn again.
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>>286265709
Which is especially funny because they did it twice for Heroes.
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>>286266131
>>Cell arc animated
Weird, I thought it was animated 30 years ago
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>>286263823
>attack that Omega TANKED
KWAB.
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>>286264910
>>286265011
lol and this general is still anti-filler. Make up your mind you idiots.
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>>286263823
>move just slightly singes Sin Shenron.
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>headcanon
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>>286265724
No one thinks this btw. Surpza was literally created to be killed in his place because he was so popular.
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>>286266113
I see people complain about the idea of Cooler showing up and being relevant because of reasons like "he'd be too weak!" even though those same people just fucking watched Freiza go from Namek arc level to Battle of Gods level in a few months. Like, what the fuck are those people fucking retarded?
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>>286266229
This is severely out of date and Daipa was a catastrophic failure?
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>>286266025
And forcing Trunks into being a cross-dressing faggot for an ugly bastard.
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>>286266113
>Sources: Geekdom101
YUP. I believe it now.
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Pan sucks so bad.
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>>286266025
It doesn't matter, whatever bad things GT did, it did them in its own timeline, it never went back to change events from the past.
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>>286266507
Salagir is at least consistent with Pan being a damsel in distress just like GT and Super was
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>>286266025
>Turning the sons of the two remaining saiyajins into weak, pathetic and useless pieces of meat....
They already became that in the Buu arc.
>bringing "back" Frieza and Cell just so they could be humiliated by "child" Tardku
Still not as bad as what RoF did with Frieza
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>>286266507
>which one of you is carrying the protection?
Get some better translators already Salagir.
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>>286266106
I'm in the mood for more android kino and it's been a while since the other universes got to be relevant. So maybe a line of shapeshifting androids designed to learn, adapt and eventually be indistinguishable from regular people. They can originate from universe 3, escape containment, and develop a desire to copy/replace life. Their data acquisition and replication gimmick can lead them to copying fight patterns and abilities, all shared across their collective. We can even have some imposter syndrome stuff to get the heroes involved, like a lookalike of Jiren or someone from the ToP being spotted in universe 3 causing trouble.
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>>286266684
It's just Androids arc again. 0/10
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>>286266408
>I see people complain about the idea of Cooler showing up and being relevant because of reasons like "he'd be too weak!" even though those same people just fucking watched Freiza go from Namek arc level to Battle of Gods level in a few months
And of course, they continue to have no issue when it happens AGAIN.
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>>286266736
It's the androids arc but if it was good.
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>>286266169
How did Heroes manage to have more SOUL put into it than Super and GT combined, despite being nothing but a glorified commercial for a card game?
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>copying fight patterns and abilities, all shared across their collective. We can even have some imposter syndrome stuff to get the heroes involved, like a lookalike of Jiren or someone from the ToP being spotted in universe 3 causing trouble.

I love the Skrulls from Marvel!
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>>286266025
>bringing "back" Frieza and Cell just so they could be humiliated by "child" Tardku
Explain why two characters who've been dead for decades shouldn't be completely outclassed by Goku. Even in his kid body he wasn't that much weaker, and by this point he'd already gotten used to using his power properly and even obtained SS4. Frieza and Cell being humiliated is to be expected.
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>>286265709
I like the version where the undershirt is orange better. This is just Vegeta.
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>>286266785
Toriyama says this.
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>>286266758
>Heroes
Outdated shit. We LOVE Super Divers here!
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>>286265847
Bejita defeats a villain.
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>>286266830
No one says this.
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Nothing will ever be more disrespectful than Daipa and Grand Turd. Luckily both are dead and NCB.
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>>286264669
>the fanbase hates power creep in Dragon Ball
>Toriyama raughs and gives them exactly what they want
>fanbase still screeches
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>>286266746
Honestly there should be no way for the gang to be able to defeat Freiza unless they literally have a whole army of Goku level fighters. There is just no way they should be able to catch up with him if he keeps training.
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>>286266864
>Iyoku puts all of the Goku poop diaper jokes for the general audiences to see

FUNNY!!
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>>286266864
>outerversal roll of toilet paper
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>>286266880
>>the fanbase hates power creep in Dragon Ball
No they don’t. The fact that so many people still slurp up Sharthan Yeast is proof they’ll go with literally anything.
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>>286266880
On top of that, Goku still can't survive outer space. Gokubros are always kneecapped in battle board discussions due to this obvious weakness and Sorbet's ring.
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>>286266507
>Goku dies to the time stopping scrotum wizard and makes 90% of the remaining DBM fanbase leave
>Bejita dies to the weaker evil Bejita because he wasn’t given time stop immunity by the scrotum wizard’s magic
SHARTlagir hates Dragon Ball.
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>>286264669
People rag a lot on Goku getting hit by Sorbet's laser, but I feel like Bejita letting Frieza blow up the Earth when he was right in front of him and he was charging his blast was even more pathetic.
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>>286267046
This movie really is just the worst. Why did Bejita just stand there? He was quicker about killing Android 19.
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>>286267019
He stopped caring about the webcomic after he finished jerking off to Majin Bra.
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>>286266758
They understood what the people wanted.
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Make Goku to be like Sun Wukong. Not just basic bitch tracing the furry form, but the actual trickster CHAOTIC personality, immortal, limitless reality warping powers, various kinds of magic, shape-shifting, size altering, regeneration, reaching ultimate Nirvana etc.
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>>286267067
Yeah. It also came after Battle of Gods, which was a genuinely good movie, so I had some high expectations for it which were quickly shattered. No one comes out of RoF looking good at all. Goku, Bejita and Frieza were all made to look like pathetic retards, and Beerus and Whis were just literal plot devices.
Not mention how both SSB and Golden Frieza are some of the shittiest transformations in the whole series.
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>>286266758
Probably because it was more aware of what it was. Super was also a glorified ad for merch, but it also pretended to be an actual story and continuation of the DB manga.
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>>286266169
People shit a lot on modern Yamamuro but I think his art style was actually really good in Heroes.
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Meet Potential Girl!
>1 bank robbery stopped
>0 meaningful wins
>0 major feats
>900 speeches about how strong she could be
>“Pan has so much hidden power!”
>“Just wait until she trains seriously!”
>“Imagine her in her teen years!”
>Trains for five minutes, loses to anyone who owns a gym membership
>Give me liberty
>Give me ki
>Give me bank robbers
>Or I'm going back to kindergarten
>Gohan's daughter?
>Actual on-screen dominance? X
>“If” and “when” but never “now.”
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>>286267136
Luffy is already doing that though.
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>>286267254
She sure takes after her dad.
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>>286267136
Godffy is more like Wukong than Gokek ever was.
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>>286267254
What a fucking weakling.
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>>286267046
The anime made it even worse.
>Krillin gets PTSD from seeing Freeza’s massive clown car army pouring out of his ship
>Tagoma is kept alive unlike in the movie, just to get heatbutted in the balls by Gotenks and get bodyswapped with Captain Ginyu
>Ginyu is stronger in Tagoma’s body than Tagoma himself, but instantly jobs to Gohan
>Piccolo sacrifices himself again to save Gohan from Freeza and has to be resurrected
>Gohan jobs hard to Freeza and has to power up all the way so Goku can lock onto his ki signature with Instant Transmission
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I miss the Gammas…
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>>286267254
She's makes my peepee happy though.
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>>286267285
True. They are the jobber family!
Goten is the only hope now...
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>>286267456
>Goten
What if he turns evil and gains ultimate power...
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Caulifa's armpits+my tongue. Do the math and solve for lick.
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>>286267552
This happened in CSM. I remember it.
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>>286267552
That yummy-yum...
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>>286267532
The manga will visit this in 2031...
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>>286267365
Pan is actually one of the few Z fighters that never died.
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Pan will go UI Beast and kill black freezer!!!
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Ore wa...
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>>286267643
Yup. Yup. Oob ( Forma de piel Blanca) will give her the needed spirit energy to send blacked frieza to hell.
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Can Pan go Super Saiyan?
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>>286267797
No, what a jobbing loser! Goten learned it solo and she couldn't with the greatest martial artist of all time training her and her father's latent potential gene. What a useless jobbing character!
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>>286267797
She inherited Ultimate from her father. She doesn't need SSJ
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>>286267552
We deserve this
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>>286267797
No, because Toriyama at the time didn't or couldn't draw female Super Saiyans.
>>286267880
Made up headcanon.
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>>286263708
The three being Goku, Giru and Trunks.
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>>286268308
K, b, c.
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K A M E W A V E
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>>286267832
Goten is just stuck with SS1. Even in video toy fanfics.
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>>286268471
Devil Goten SSJ11
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>was forbidden to transform (even to Super Saiyan 1) by the Supreme Kai of Time because the energy could unintentionally damage/destroy the entire timeline he was in as collateral
>a timeline contains its entire respective multiverse
>has access to Super Full Power Saiyan 4 Limit Breaker
Enter.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNKw3MnwvRQ
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Saying that the original bardock tv special, the original broly, Janema, and so on are good while saying GT is bad is incoherent. Do you want Toei interfering with dragon ball or not?
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>>286268742
Those were good and GT was shit.
There is a clear difference in quality.
>pedo prequel image
Figures.
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>>286268742
>non-sequitur false equivalence faulty analogy
GT is shit. End of story.
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>A full power strike from Raditz was unable to harm Gohan, who had a power level of 1

Raditz is the biggest joke in the franchise
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>>286268840
>toei contributions vs toei contributions are false analogies
no.
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>>286269027
Gohan after the attack: unconscious but there's no blood nor even a bruise

Raditz is PATHETIC
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>>286269055
>if you like X and Y, you must also like Z, because it shares a trait with X and Y
Your line of reasoning suggests mental illness.
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GT is better
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>>286269027
Why is Bejita's half brother so cruel?
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Sparking Zero can still top Xenoverse 3 if it revives the SDBH universe, including Xeno Goku, Vegeta, Mechikabura, Hearts and etc.
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>>286269121
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>he ran
Such is the fate of every pro-GT midwit.
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>>286269217
Toriyama drew this character.
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>>286268742
Old Toei isn't the same as new Toei.
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>>286269121
Than what?
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>GT = rubbish
>Jiren is the rubbish destroyer
Holy fuarrk...
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>>286269331
all those things came from the same time period.
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The god of ALL the universe.
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>>286268605
Our HERO.
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>>286269537
>HERO
The J out of nowhere.
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>>286269204
Sparking Zero can’t even get staples of BT3, they’re not bringing Heroes content in. Especially with how DBS coded the whole game is.
XV3 will hopefully take all that.
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>>286269457
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>>286269508
... is canonically Rymus.
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>>286269457
DBM characters still can't overcome time stop btw.
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>>286269508
>disappears from the story completely twice.
>never seen or heard from again after Beerus beats up Goku
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>>286269659
You mean Zeno?
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>>286269708
There's not a single character in DB who can overcome time stop. No one is stronger than time.
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>>286269659
Creating the Universe on orders from a fat Demon guy doesn't make you the God of it. Construction Workers can build Houses but they don't own them. God, Daipa Lore is so fucking retarded. Why the fuck does Fatass Demon Nigger boss around a being who creates Universes? Toriyama's senility got so immense that it fucking killed him.
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>>286265847
Goten and Trunks are tired of always slipping into the retarded Fat Gotenks form literally every time they attempt to fuse, so head to the hyperbolic time chamber for serious training. Due to their careless nature; they destroy the portal to get back to the watchtower and are trapped in the time chamber. Attempting to re-create their/Super Buu’s escape, they do, but when they reappear it is into the Toei DragonBall Movie timeline. From this point forward it is nonstop action with the cleanest choreography that DragonBall has ever seen, exemplified by the silliness of child Gotenk’s creative powers but with a new, grittier, and adult determination due to them being young adults. Each mini-arc is a reflection of the arcs from DragonBall Z, Broly is the villain of their version of the Saiyan saga, Cooler is their Frieza, Bojack is their Cell, and finally Janemba is their Buu. Only fitting for Gogeta’s original foe to be passed down to his sons’ fusion.
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>>286269600
>traced babble
Kek. GT has NOTHING going for it. Even its fans are just aping other works.
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>>286269600
Funny and true.
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>>286269457
k.b.c.
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>>286269600
Gold.
>>286269457
Mold.
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>>286269600
Mold.
>>286269457
Gold.
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>>286269600
Based GTGAWD
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>>286269457
Kbc.
>286269600
Traced fanfic.
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>>286270172
True.
>>286270206
Wrong.
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Best transformation in the series.
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>>286270206
True.
>>286270172
False.
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BAM.
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>>286270249
Kino.
>>286270187
Sun Wukong is Gold, not Pink with gay eyeliner.
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>>286270187
True.
>>286270249
False.
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>>286267136
True. Toriyama's traced character lacks all of the good qualities of the original.
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>>286270389
Holy Opus.
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>>286270389
Daipa was garbage, so that's not saying much.
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>>286269600
Funny and factual.
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>>286270187
Why is Pan looking at naked adult Goku?
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>>286270389
Nah, it's still the original Super Saiyan transformation on Namek. Also Daipa and SS4 are both dogshit.
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>>286263613
>>286263940
>what happened
Bardock spares Muezli (and Granolah) because the way she protected her son reminded him of his own wife, Gine. Later, he tells Monaito that he is so used to destroying things that, for once, he wanted to save something. This moment highlights the lingering influence of his wife's kind-hearted nature on him.
>fan concept of "improvement"
Bardock actually cheated on his wife and was merely protecting his mistress and his bastard son.
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>GTurds and SHITperkeks fighting
We all know SS1 and SS2 are the best transformations.
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>>286270389
GOLD.
>>286270497
GOLD.
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>>286270492
Dragon Ball fans are known to be extremely retarded, especially western "fans". I'm glad the actual franchise owners don't take them seriously.
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>>286270492
The original is retarded too. He's already slaughtered scores of families before, why would this one out of all of them remind him of Gine and Kakarot? And it STILL does nothing to account for Raditz, the son he already had who grew up to be characteristic of every other Saiyan prior to Shitnus.
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Objectively speaking, the best transformation was LORDhan's ascension to Super Saiyan 2.
>b-but what about
Inferior.
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>>286270557
Toriyama is such a fucking moron. It's good that he's dead.
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>>286270389
Floppa.

>>286270497
Sloppa.
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>>286270187
Wait a minute, that's Oozaru Goku, whenever Goku transforms into Oozaru, his clothes get shredded to pieces. Why is SS4 Goku wearing adult pants and shoes?
And when he returned to his base form, was he naked or wearing his kid clothes?
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>>286270389
I kinda miss when people were theorizing Goku would get a new form related to Magic or something Demonic.That would have been new and fun if it had magic powers or something different than just the usual powerup.
Instead we got SS4 to make the people that wanted "canon" SS4 happy, but they still lost anyways because Daima SS4 looks worse than GT SS4.
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>>286270264
>>286269457
>>286264815
based
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>>286270618
Goku didn't want to be branded a pedophile by being naked in front of a little girl.
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>>286263708
His name is Debra
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>>286270581
>Below Dodoria Fodder

Dodoria RAPED that bitch Seripa
KEKYCHOOKY!!!
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>>286270650
>>Below Dodoria Fodder
>bejita out of nowhere
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>>286270607
>even Daima has the J
Jiren has no limits.
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>>286270581
>Cuckdock's squad can't even take out mid tier generic Frieza soldiers

Bejita, Krillin, Gohan and random Namekians wiped them out with ease.
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>>286270682
kek
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>>286270650
>>286270703
You can stop samefagging now, chimp.
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>>286270557
>pic
This would’ve happened under Toei instead of Cuckotaro.
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>Can't refute it
>Has to resort to Bejita, because the old saiyans were weaklings jobbers
D?one.
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Tenshinhan.
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>>286270774
Boring.
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>>286270796
..on opposite day.
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>>286270628
It's great because Poopma isn't even canon.
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>>286270774
>Shirtless SS3 with red eyes
Agree.
The best that form has ever looked.
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>>286270682
>>286270707
>VEGETAVEGETAVEGETA
>RTH
Mindbroken.
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>>286270818
>insane headcanon drawn by a mentally ill person
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>>286270925
Calm down, mate.
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>>286270908
Nah he is right.
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FUARK
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>>286270783
At least he picked the better girl.
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>>286271007
Toei's Golden child!
>>286270774
Washed up celebrity of yesteryear.
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If the coolest thing ever happens but nobody wants to see it happen, is it really that cool?
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>>286271007
So STRONG!
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>>286271069
The whole turning them into minis and the slow pacing really killed interest until the end.
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>>286271095
UE Bejita transformation will look like this in the remake.
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>>286271007
>>286271095
Burter's pain toy.
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HYPE
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I can't believe Dragon Ball Super Beerus is going to job to Blue Box, The Apothecary Diaries, Black Clover, and the previously aired season of One Piece.
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>>286271229
>Jiren achieved Ear-jin 2
Holy FUARRK...
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>>286271229
HUMANren the NORMAL...
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>>286271145
Even that's too good for this joke.
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>>286262502
It's better than wearing Goku's gi for the 12th time
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>>286271303
BOXERgeta the DECEASED
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>>286263012
You ever see Terminator Genisys? In 2029, Kyle Reese travels back in time to 1984 to stop Skynet (branded under "Genisys") from going online, but because of timeline shenanigans, he realizes that it only goes online in 2017 despite work for it happening now. Their solution is to use a time machine to travel to the day before it launches.

This is the most retarded moment in the entire movie, because they turned a 33 year headstart into a 1 day headstart. Instead of doing anything to alter the timeline then, like finding any of the people who might have worked on it decades in advance, they squander the entire time they had so that Genisys is a major company and secure facility right on the edge of launching. The point is that Kyle Reese went back in time for the purpose of stopping Skynet before it starts, in the same way Trunks goes back in time to prevent the androids from happening. And like Terminator Genisys, the characters squander the opportunity they're given for negligible benefits (outside of maybe Vegeta).
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>>286271303
Bejita with bruise boils makes me laugh every time.
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>>286264936
I actually prefer this over the special because if Gohan really was able to handle one of the androids, he'd have beaten them ages ago.
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XenoverseChads won.
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>>286271229
I wonder if that Jiren has a human cock...
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>The power of myself... in the palm of my hand...
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>>286271437
Very Odd how Goku nor the other Z fighters like Piccolo ever bothered to communicate to Gohan and Bulma via King Kai.
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>>286262502
You're fucking retarded. This shit slaps, it's by far the best Gohan ever looked and one of the best outfits in dragon ball. Are you just upset he didn't keep wearing piccolo's clothes after the cell games?
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>>286266328
>Garbage headcanon not written by Toriyama
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so when do beerus and whis get smaller roles or die because im fucking sick of the omg food so good xD shit
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>>286272311
Never, because Beerus and Whis are dragon ball's Rosencrantz and Guildenstern,
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Who and the what now?
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Kek they leaked it Xenoverse 3 confirmed
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>>286272427
with modern toriyama lore
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>>286272427
Juana is canon btw.
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>>286272427
>Purposeful leak
Done.
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>>286272427
>OPUSro arc
>GODper remake
>Xenoverse 3
Holy FUARK Toei and Bamco, we are gonna get tired of winning if you continue kek.
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Why would they use some vague project name, if it's just Xenoverse 3? I'm not saying the leak is inaccurate, it just doesn't make any sense.
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>SLOPverse
Aaaaaaand my expectations have already hit rock bottom.
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>>286272591
Age 1000 is the setting.
They will probably use the DB Online setting and lore for Xeno 3.
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Don't understand the appeal for Xenoverse 3, the mechanics fucking suck and the previous game models were so trash, the Budokai Tenkaichi/Sparking series remain superior in everything and the mechanics are top notch, Sparking Zero is just carying on the legacy, I'd rather wait for the next Sparking game.
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>all of this for a Goku toy.
Lol
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>>286272719
Xeno gets new story and continues to get content.
Budokai/Sparking die after being released.
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>>286272739
This is pure fucking loser behavior.
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ENOUGH FROM THE JOBBER
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Vegeta, Krillin, Tien, Yamcha...
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>>286273115
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>>286270818
DBS if Toriyama was honest
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DBS if it was written by a mentally ill fujo.
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>>286272591
Ages XXX is a big part of Xenoverse. Age 1000 is the age the game will take place I guess.
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>>286272719
Xenoverse is for autists who want to self insert into the world. You wouldn't get it.
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>>286273510
Yeah, I'm not an autistic piece of fat, ugly shit like you, so I guess I wouldn't.
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>>286273541
>projection

My Xenoverse OC being able to solo your hero got you seething kek!
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>>286273566
>videotoy manchild retard wants me to play toys with him
Nope.
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>>286273587
Never said I wanted to do any raids with you. Again just spouting delusional statements.
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>>286273663
>mentions having to be autistic to get into Xenoslop
>gets mad when he's called autistic
Autistic "people" shouldn't have human rights.
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>>286273587
>videotoy manchild retar
SHITren lost.
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>>286273745
I've been waiting for a Xenoverse 3, why would I be the one seething?
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>>286273824
>babbling about Jiren out of nowhere
Stupid manchild.
>>286273830
See >>286273510
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>>286273843
? I'm mad because there's a Xenoverse 3 coming out I can now autistically self insert in?
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>>286273872
You are obese.
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>>286273896
I'm a healthy weight so I can match my Xenoverse toons actually
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There's 42 individuals named Jiren in the US and they're all Hispanic.
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I just want Xenoverse 3 to have Legendary Super Saiyan as an Awoken Skill. Hell, I'll even take Ikari.
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>>286273938
Which character has the most Mexican kids named after them? I think that will decide who is the strongest once and for all.
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>>286273417
>needed Goku REMOVED from his own BODY in order to win
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>>286266758
The devs and staff had fun with it. All those unique scenarios from the games? Heroes did an entire game based around that. You can roll your eyes over stuff like the dark Dragon Balls and OC's, but they still tried new stuff while respecting the canon stuff from the manga and anime. The fact that they killed it off for another game that barely lasted a year was one of the most baffling things they ever did. Super was a big mistake, the IP was being carried by Heroes and also decided to give GT some care and attention, which was the right direction to take. Heroes should have gotten a proper animated adaption that expanded on GT, Super in spite of some good characters was really a mistake, I can't stress that enough.

Heroes took what Dragon Ball had and expanded on it. There's at least one scenario or situation that you'll like.
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>>286272591
Exactly. It's the same with thinking DBS is getting a full remake instead of just BoG. Even if it's true, why not just say it while you have the big 40th anniversary event to do so, instead of waiting a month so some SEAnigger intern can fuck up on social media?
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>>286274506
>You can roll your eyes over stuff like the dark Dragon Balls and OC's
Their OCs were great. Hearts, the rape demon, the glass chicks. All based.
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>>286263416
You're a fucking retard. Both Super and Minus both show Bardock is STILL a killer and a warrior. he still kills entire races, he just cares about HIS family. Which is consistent with every fath son saiyan depicted. King Vegeta loved his Son, Paragus loved his Son, and Bardock caring about his sons stays consistent.

and yes Vegeta cared about his Dad.
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I want to repopulate the world in the future timeline with Bulma.
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>>286274660
I got no issue with them. I know some people will scream holy hell about it but all the over the top shit made it interesting. If they can accept a recolored SSJ Goku and Bluer Vegeta, they can handle a dark Dragon Ball lodged in Broly's chest.
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>>286274678
>Which is consistent with every fath son saiyan depicted.
Toriyama and his pet Muttotaro must not have gotten the memo.
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>>286274678
>appealing to nu-canon portrayals of saiyan behavior to say the new depiction is consistent
The new depiction doesn't even line up with how Bardock actually looks.
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>>286273938
Proof?
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>>286265191
Goku shows the form before the Dabra fight, it's how he overloads Yakon when he very briefly transforms, which Vegeta catches and is salty about. Yes, Gohan's initial transformation was treated more as his latent potential being brought out by his emotions and losing all reservations, Gohan's true power being unleashed while in Super Saiyan. And yes, it took until the Boo arc for it to be treated as a sequential upgrade to Super Saiyan, but the Yakon moment is where it first implies it, not Dabra.
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>>286266008
lolno
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>>286272719
Xenoverse is for modding and cool fanfiction.
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CHADnoverse 3 will destroy SHARTing Zero.
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>>286275604
SHARTing Zero flushed itself when it launched missing features that were present 20 years ago and even in the spic-made BT4.
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>>286275604
>>286275646
SHARTing Zero feels so bad to play. BT3/4 is so fucking snappy and consistent in comparison, which is saying something, because it has its fair share of jank.
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>>286274709
Future Gohan’s beautiful mommywife.
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I wish I was never born, bros.
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>>286275898
Sorry bro... life is hard
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Damn! Jiren's got the moves!



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