This is the most overrated outfit in the entire series and I don't get why people keep acting like it's the best thing ever.
>>286262502He's the hero of time.
>>286262502*underratedSorry, typo
My GOAT!
Kek.
>>286262560Based
>>286262502Because Gohan is wearing a tight spandex suit underneath and it shows off his big muscles and massive bulge.
>>286262525>4 KB, 401x439)Good morning gentlemens
Puar solos my verse...
>>286262615
>>286262525Give me some pleasure.
>TARDshinhan: Woa Guko you strong so strong I'm gettin excitecd!!>TARDjita: So some super pooper andriods are gonna kil we all!? Nobody stop them I want to fight them and I'll KEEL anyone who tries to stop them from activating!!!>TARDku: Waku Waku AMAZIN IDEA BEJITA-SAMA GUHUH!!>Tardlin: I sure hope one of'em robots is sexy so I can risk the fate of the world for my boner!!>TARDcolo: we are so strong we cannot lose! Goku you peeing yourself? YUMMY us namekians need some quality liquids!
>>286262732Our heroes...
>>286262732Luckily for them they were going against TARDell
>>286262732…said Bulma in a fit of rage because OUR HEROES rejected her awful plan.
>>286262502Goku and Piccolo's gis are just too played out, let Gohan have something different for a change
>>286262732I would unironically do this if I was them. Where's the fun if you just kill the enemy right away? Plus you'll get even stronger when you fight them.
>>286262838If I was Bulma I would have found Gero and helped him make the Androids stronger just to show how stupid the "heroes" are.
>>286262540KWAB
>>286262502It's a well-known fact that Gohan's best costume was pic related left.
Sex with Pan!
>>286263342Goku...
>>286263222Then I would just train even harder with my HEROES and one-shot them, rendering your lesson useless.
>>286263066What I hate the most about Minus is that it pisses on Raditz's role in the Saiyan arc, which was to show that Goku came from a line of bastards where not only his family, but his entire race were brutal savages, unlike him. Now that we know both of his parents were actually good guys, it's Raditz who is the outlier in his family instead of Goku, which feels really stupid.
>no TARDan
>>286263416They look like half-brothers. King Bejita definitely hit Gine btw.
Toei will make him out to be Goku's half brother, I can feel it.
>>286263538Honestly Raditz being King Bejita's bastard son would explain a lot of things, like why he survived the planet's destruction and why Bardock never seemed to give a shit about him.
Why didn't the women get to keep their legs?
>>286263416>Now that we know both of his parents were actually good guys, it's Raditz who is the outlier in his family instead of Goku, which feels really stupidJust like Superman’s brother! (raughs)
>>286263570Toei/Bandai has been trying to replace Raditz with Turles in DB heroes, so >>286263613 might not be far off.
>>286263416There's a lot to dislike about Minus, it really waters down what was established in the manga and the anime, the Saiyans were the way they were, brutal warriors, that was an accepted fact, but now they were all kind of good people who acted like normal earth people, fuck that, the tv special was the perfect depiction of what the saiyans should be.
>>286263644Um... Dabura is not a women..
>>286263644They had no bodies.
>>286263708Proof?
>>286262502The baseball episode was neat.
Strongest character and move in the franchise btw>SSJ4 is a SS3 400 times multiplier with the Oozaru 10 times multiplier on top of that>Fusion Dance is the addition of the base power of both people fusing (in this case Vegeta and Goku as SS4 with that ridiculous power multiplier already) and a further 10 times multiplier The only character who could surpass this would be Vegito.SSJ4 Gogeta in GT would stomp anything in Super. 'f s'.
>>286263794No.
>>286263416Is lizardbro ok?
>>286263744Look at his throat?
>>286263690They still evil even with Toriyama white-washing. They invade and kill other aliens for Freeza, but they still have their own imperial ambitions. >>286263647Kryptonians aren't even extinct like the Saiyans. There is Clark's family and cousins, Zod, the evil Kryptonians in the phantom zone and the city of Kandor which would be restored to normal size in many different stories.
>>286263863I can't, his big chin is blocking the view.
>>286263613>Granolah gets strong to kill the last few saiyans left alive and avenge his people>he then unlocks super saiyan in the middle of the fight with Goku and Vegeta and realises that he's half SaiyanToo kino for nu DB.
>>286263823Comedy relief monkey that got defused like Vegetto. Didn't do shit.
>multiplier fanfic babbleThe fanbase stopped doing this shit like 15 years ago.
Jiren? Winner.
>>286263959His power output was so ridiculously high that he burned through it all. Simple as.
>>286263823Pure fanfic numbers btw. Base Cabba solos by accident.
>>286263940I'd think he beat gas and hold his own against Black Frieza if he was a half-saiyan with SS.
>>286264094Incorrect.
DBS is honestly the worst parts of the Buu saga combined with the worst parts of the Cell saga. I can't believe how bad it is.
>>286264468BINGOjita is the best part of Dragon Ball btw.
>>286264468True.
>>286264094Based Cabba cant even solo my dick (4.5 inches)
>>286264530It's a low bar.
>>286264468Bejita is a great singer and dancer though.https://youtu.be/gTIfIMZYkb4?si=_M6WQ2PYn3rRJJRD
Grand Turd is the worst and most disrespectful anime towards its IP in the history of animation, worldwide
>>286264094Trvke.
>>286264597I think Boruto is worse.
>>286264567Legend of the Galactic heroes, Mobile suit Gundam and Saint Seiya is better than poopgon ball though.
>>286264001The fanbase stopped doing this because RoF and DBS utterly shat the bed in terms of what little consistency there still was to the scaling.
>>286264597It actually ties up the series surprisingly well. Baby and Shadow Dragons are kino and play in to the story well. Better than the infinite retardation that is the exploration of the God system in super, that's for sure. Super shits on everything Dragonball sets up but retconning EOZ was retarded.
>>286264468>BINGOgetaPic unrelated.
>>286264597The Goku Black arc alone is far more disrespectful than GT ever was, even at its worst.
>>286264597Super is soulless corporate schlop designed to sell merch and video games. And it's being written by another Mangaka. If that's not disrespectful then I don't know what is
>>286264689>>286264726Yeah, I don't remember GT constantly retconning shit and ruining old characters like Shitper did.
>>286264726Why did they recon this? Was it to show that Super is in its own canon and this shouldn't be taken as canon to the original series?
>>286264597
>>286264766It has a few retcons but not nearly as many or nearly as damaging as Super’s count.
>>286264597Trvke. Luckily, it has been rendered inert.
BINGOhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDa52zhFuco
>The newfags are arguing again*Points to sign*
>>286264726They literally never had to re-animate this. There was no reason for this change. They sucked literally ALL the emotion and weight out of it for nothing. Same can honestly be said about the whole arc, they treat Trunks like dogshit.
>>286264848I'm still mad as fuck
>>286264815>literally ignoring reality
>TV special
17 one-shotted Gohan.
>>286264925He never recovers from this. Embarrassing.
>>286264910>SS Future Trunks was weaker than Base Future GohanWas Future Trunks the weakest character to unlock SS?
>>286264910Funny how Toei did both the Trunks and Bardock special way better than Toriyama did. Also Future Gohan getting stomped by 17 using less than half of his power in the manga feels really retarded. Even SSJ Goku from Namek could probably beat this Gohan.
>>286264936>Main timeline Gohan broke through the SS barrier using his rage at a robot getting broken>Trunks timeline Gohan didn't break through the SS barrier despite his dad and all his friends dyingKwab?
>>286264962Certainly seems like it. He didn't have much combat training or experience besides running from Androids and sparring with Gohan
>>286264910>>286264966Toriyama really has been bad for a lot longer than we realized, huh?
Gohan never had a chance.>>286264962Yup. But he can count Bardock since he's still weaker than first form Frieza. Hybrids like Goten and Trunks getting SS quickly isn't new. Anime onlys don't read.
>>286264995This arc really is just written like shit.
BARBOSA SAMA!!!!!!!!!!
>>286264995I think SS2 requires special training, as does SS3 (Goku only got it because he had the privilege of being in the afterlife).It took Goku and Gohan spending time in the Time Chamber to "figure it out," and then Bejita probably clued in from there.Future Gohan never had the privilege of top-tier training like his main timeline counterpart.
>>286265119I mean yeah, it probably does make sense for future Gohan to be so weak, especially since he most likely gave up fighting completely by the time Goku died and the androids attacked, but it's still kind of pathetic.
>>286265119>I think SS2 requires special trainingFun fact - SS2 was written to be a Gohan exclusive form. It's the rage mechanic they were building up since Raditz visited combined with Super Saiyan. Simple as. This even plays in to Gohans fight against Dabura where he couldn't break in to the form because he wasn't as emotionally invested as he was when he fought Cell. It made perfect thematic sense.Then Toriyama goes full retard and gives Goku the form, and Bejita the form when Babidi takes over his body. Stupid.
>>286264952>He never recovers from this. Embarrassing.
>>286265119>BejitaThe only time he's shown with the lightning aura mandating SS2 is when Babidi rapes him.
>>286265119Bejita never attains SSJ2
>>286265217>>286265253Regardless of how Bejita got SS2, my point is Future Gohan lacked the circumstances to achieve it himself. No extended periods of training with prodigal fighters, no magic boosts, nothing. I think, hypothetically, even if Future Gohan had been equal to Cell Games Gohan (base to base), Future Gohan still wouldn't achieve SS2, because he simply lacks the knowledge (or magic boosts, if we assume Bejita only got to that level after Babidi buffed him).The Future timeline was no place for a martial artist. It was just a shitshow, and Gohan knew he was going to die eventually.
Bejita should die and never come back.
>>286264848>gave his life to make sure the past had a chance>became strong enough to go back home, protect his own era and hopefully rebuild what's leftBut OOPS! it didn't matter!>they rebuild offscreen and get reduced to the exact same point we met him at, offscreen>trunks continues to lose every fight>goes back to beg for help>help arrives>it doesn't matter>suddenly gets a power boost just because>it also doesn't amount to shit>gets another power boost just because>it doesn't matter AGAIN>gets his universe nuked>but it's ok because now he can go live in a timeline with another trunks where this whole arc just... didn't happen!This arc is so much worse than pointless. If it wasn't written by Toriyama, it's straight up apocryphal. If it was written by him, then he's got to be one of the worst writers to ever live and his manga was mostly ghost-written. 20 straight weeks of wasted time.
>>286265416I wonder if Toei has the balls to fix this shit-heap of an arc in the remake.
>>286264597That would be Super, GT, no matter how bad, it never disrespected its legacy.
>>286265454They won’t. They don’t believe they’ve done anything wrong, because not enough of the fanbase has complained. The 3rd worlders who make up the majority don’t have the cognitive ability to recognize how bad this arc actually is, and not just this arc. So many have this same time-wasting problem that not enough pick up on.
>>286265454I've been thinking about that. Why are we so sure that the rest of Super is even getting a remake? They only announced BoG so if they were remaking the whole thing they would've said so at the event.
Gohan Fans are practically Trotskyist at this point
>>286265555It's mostly because Geekdom keeps saying RoF and so on are getting remade even though there is 0 evidence anything beyond Battle of Chads is getting remade
Wow, is Super really THAT bad that it needs a remake?Maybe they should just make something new and forget it ever existed.
>>286265326Bejita never got SS2, he got a power boost from Babidi's magic. How would he possibly attain it when it's linked to a rage boost and he spent 7 years in peace time?
>>286265555>>286265583I could've sworn there was a line in the anniversary reveal that was like "Super is back!" or something. I mean, I guess that could just be to hype up a single movie, but I was under the impression they were redoing everything while I was watching the event, and I don't watch YouTube grifters.
>Bamco actually removed the Xenoverse 3 playlistHoly kek, it's real lmao
>>286265652It said "Super BEGINS" but that doesn't mean anything obviously
>>286265643Not even a remake would fix it, it's bad storytelling and characterisation from the get go. The entire premise is flawed.
>Tori and Toei were so lazy regarding the Goku Black arc that they couldn't even bother to create a new design for Vegito with the armor on
>>286265400He should have stayed dead on Namek 2bh would have been more interesting
>>286265709This was also why they got rid of the RoF outfits btw.
>>286265709In the original draft by Toriyama Bejitto wasn't even there. I think Toyotaro asked to include it because he thought it was cool. Toriyama agreed on the condition Zamasu would win.
>>286265709I think the thing that annoys me about Super is it's reliance on "member when?". It's fanservice in the worst way and it's played much worse in the anime>Member Piccolo's stretchy arms?>Member Kaioken?>Member Legendary Super Saiyan?>Member Final Flash?>Member [insert stupid fanservice]
TracoPaco's art + AI slop?Is actually pretty coolhttps://www.youtube.com/shorts/xn61TKpu0Y8
>>286265643>>286265693
Come up with an idea for a new DB arc that is actually interesting. Right now.
>>286265847Freeza Black arc where he's trying to conquer all of the universes
>>286265847Goku visits my country Bangladesh
>>286265772It wouldn't have been so bad if Super didn't flat out refuse to do anything remotely original. Almost everything it did felt like something recycled from Z, with the movies being the worst offenders. >RoF is just Frieza coming back>Nuly is a rehash of Zly but now he's a good guy>Super Hero has a shitty recolor of Cell as the villain and Gohan going Beast is just rethreading his SS2 transformation Meanwhile the Super anime is mostly just tournaments with some of the blandest and most uninteresting characters imaginable. Zamasu was the most original Super has been and his arc was a complete dumpster fire.
>>28626584718, Bulma and Chichi taking thousands of bee bee sea.
>>286265847A proper tournament arc centred around Uub 3 years after EoZ with Goku coaching him. It's setup more like the 29th tournament, and features a call back to Jackie Chun where Goku enters until a false name to teach Uub restraint and energy conservation. Uub being a stupid inbred African can't see through the obvious disguise but manages to beat Goku by ring out. The arc shows Goku that it's truly time to pass on the protector of earth gimmick as he can't keep up with Uubs progress. At the end they decide to travel the world so Uub can get life experience, setting up an odd couples arc like the first Dragonball Arc where a clueless Goku is trying to teach Uub while also misunderstanding the world around him has changed.
>>286265471>never disrespected its legacy.Turning the sons of the two remaining saiyajins into weak, pathetic and useless pieces of meat....Turning Oob, potentially a successor of Goku,into a nothingburger jobberbringing "back" Frieza and Cell just so they could be humiliated by "child" Tardku
>>286266008>centred around Uub0/10
>>286266008>20th tournament*
>>286266048God forbid an arc follows on from EoZ right?
>>286266088>God forbid an arc follows character literally no one on the planet cares aboutYeah.
>>286265847Sidelined by his father / clan, Cooler was exiled. He ended up in Universe 6, ruling from behind the curtains while his son Frost was the public face of his empire.After the Tournament of Power, Frost told his father about having been betrayed and defeated by "a Frieza" from Universe 7, prompting Cooler to take revenge against his spoiled younger brother and unify his empire between two universes.>Main heroes:Goku, Vegeta, Broly, Piccolo, Tien, Yamcha, Chiaotzu, Cabba, Caulifla, Kale, Sadala King.>VillainsCooler, Frost, Cooler's Armored Squadron (Salza, Dore, Neiz).>doing his own shit to kill everyone aboveFrieza.Main battles:• Goku + Vegeta + Piccolo + Broly vs. Final Form Cooler vs. Black Frieza (almost a battle royale like the ToP)• Cabba + Caulifla + Kale vs. Golden Frost• Tien + Yamcha + Chiaotzu vs. Salza + Dore + Neiz-- Dragon Ball Super: Cooler, July 2029 -->post-credits sceneAfter Cooler and Frieza's supposed deaths during the battle, Berryblue is seem talking to her scientists, they're cloning the ultimate warrior to be the new enforcer of the Galactic Empire, they're using the cells of Broly and Kale, the clone inside the holding tank looks like the original Broly.Sources: Geekdom101, DbsHype1, SupaChronicles, AnimeAjay, Resetera
>Xenovere 3>Anime remake>Moro arc animatedWE FUCKING WON
>>286266025Pan never turned Super Saiyan even when she becomes an old hag.At the end, Oob is just forgotten or retconned by Toei.The successors are essentially the diaper duo 2 reborn again.
>>286265709Which is especially funny because they did it twice for Heroes.
>>286266131>>Cell arc animatedWeird, I thought it was animated 30 years ago
>>286263823>attack that Omega TANKEDKWAB.
>>286264910>>286265011lol and this general is still anti-filler. Make up your mind you idiots.
>>286263823>move just slightly singes Sin Shenron.
>>286265646>headcanon
>>286265400>>286265724No one thinks this btw. Surpza was literally created to be killed in his place because he was so popular.
>>286266113I see people complain about the idea of Cooler showing up and being relevant because of reasons like "he'd be too weak!" even though those same people just fucking watched Freiza go from Namek arc level to Battle of Gods level in a few months. Like, what the fuck are those people fucking retarded?
>>286266229This is severely out of date and Daipa was a catastrophic failure?
>>286266025And forcing Trunks into being a cross-dressing faggot for an ugly bastard.
>>286266113>Sources: Geekdom101YUP. I believe it now.
Pan sucks so bad.
>>286266025It doesn't matter, whatever bad things GT did, it did them in its own timeline, it never went back to change events from the past.
>>286266507Salagir is at least consistent with Pan being a damsel in distress just like GT and Super was
>>286266025>Turning the sons of the two remaining saiyajins into weak, pathetic and useless pieces of meat....They already became that in the Buu arc. >bringing "back" Frieza and Cell just so they could be humiliated by "child" TardkuStill not as bad as what RoF did with Frieza
>>286266507>which one of you is carrying the protection?Get some better translators already Salagir.
>>286266106I'm in the mood for more android kino and it's been a while since the other universes got to be relevant. So maybe a line of shapeshifting androids designed to learn, adapt and eventually be indistinguishable from regular people. They can originate from universe 3, escape containment, and develop a desire to copy/replace life. Their data acquisition and replication gimmick can lead them to copying fight patterns and abilities, all shared across their collective. We can even have some imposter syndrome stuff to get the heroes involved, like a lookalike of Jiren or someone from the ToP being spotted in universe 3 causing trouble.
>>286266684It's just Androids arc again. 0/10
>>286266408>I see people complain about the idea of Cooler showing up and being relevant because of reasons like "he'd be too weak!" even though those same people just fucking watched Freiza go from Namek arc level to Battle of Gods level in a few monthsAnd of course, they continue to have no issue when it happens AGAIN.
>>286266736It's the androids arc but if it was good.
>>286266169How did Heroes manage to have more SOUL put into it than Super and GT combined, despite being nothing but a glorified commercial for a card game?
>copying fight patterns and abilities, all shared across their collective. We can even have some imposter syndrome stuff to get the heroes involved, like a lookalike of Jiren or someone from the ToP being spotted in universe 3 causing trouble.I love the Skrulls from Marvel!
>>286266025>bringing "back" Frieza and Cell just so they could be humiliated by "child" TardkuExplain why two characters who've been dead for decades shouldn't be completely outclassed by Goku. Even in his kid body he wasn't that much weaker, and by this point he'd already gotten used to using his power properly and even obtained SS4. Frieza and Cell being humiliated is to be expected.
>>286265709I like the version where the undershirt is orange better. This is just Vegeta.
>>286266785Toriyama says this.
>>286266758>HeroesOutdated shit. We LOVE Super Divers here!
>>286265847Bejita defeats a villain.
>>286266830No one says this.
Nothing will ever be more disrespectful than Daipa and Grand Turd. Luckily both are dead and NCB.
>>286264669>the fanbase hates power creep in Dragon Ball>Toriyama raughs and gives them exactly what they want>fanbase still screeches
>>286266746Honestly there should be no way for the gang to be able to defeat Freiza unless they literally have a whole army of Goku level fighters. There is just no way they should be able to catch up with him if he keeps training.
>>286266864>Iyoku puts all of the Goku poop diaper jokes for the general audiences to seeFUNNY!!
>>286266864>outerversal roll of toilet paper
>>286266880>>the fanbase hates power creep in Dragon BallNo they don’t. The fact that so many people still slurp up Sharthan Yeast is proof they’ll go with literally anything.
>>286266880On top of that, Goku still can't survive outer space. Gokubros are always kneecapped in battle board discussions due to this obvious weakness and Sorbet's ring.
>>286266507>Goku dies to the time stopping scrotum wizard and makes 90% of the remaining DBM fanbase leave>Bejita dies to the weaker evil Bejita because he wasn’t given time stop immunity by the scrotum wizard’s magic SHARTlagir hates Dragon Ball.
>>286264669People rag a lot on Goku getting hit by Sorbet's laser, but I feel like Bejita letting Frieza blow up the Earth when he was right in front of him and he was charging his blast was even more pathetic.
>>286267046This movie really is just the worst. Why did Bejita just stand there? He was quicker about killing Android 19.
>>286267019He stopped caring about the webcomic after he finished jerking off to Majin Bra.
>>286266758They understood what the people wanted.
Make Goku to be like Sun Wukong. Not just basic bitch tracing the furry form, but the actual trickster CHAOTIC personality, immortal, limitless reality warping powers, various kinds of magic, shape-shifting, size altering, regeneration, reaching ultimate Nirvana etc.
>>286267067Yeah. It also came after Battle of Gods, which was a genuinely good movie, so I had some high expectations for it which were quickly shattered. No one comes out of RoF looking good at all. Goku, Bejita and Frieza were all made to look like pathetic retards, and Beerus and Whis were just literal plot devices. Not mention how both SSB and Golden Frieza are some of the shittiest transformations in the whole series.
>>286266758Probably because it was more aware of what it was. Super was also a glorified ad for merch, but it also pretended to be an actual story and continuation of the DB manga.
>>286266169People shit a lot on modern Yamamuro but I think his art style was actually really good in Heroes.
Meet Potential Girl!>1 bank robbery stopped>0 meaningful wins>0 major feats>900 speeches about how strong she could be>“Pan has so much hidden power!”>“Just wait until she trains seriously!”>“Imagine her in her teen years!”>Trains for five minutes, loses to anyone who owns a gym membership>Give me liberty>Give me ki>Give me bank robbers>Or I'm going back to kindergarten>Gohan's daughter? >Actual on-screen dominance? X>“If” and “when” but never “now.”
>>286267136Luffy is already doing that though.
>>286267254She sure takes after her dad.
>>286267136Godffy is more like Wukong than Gokek ever was.
>>286267254What a fucking weakling.
>>286267046The anime made it even worse.>Krillin gets PTSD from seeing Freeza’s massive clown car army pouring out of his ship>Tagoma is kept alive unlike in the movie, just to get heatbutted in the balls by Gotenks and get bodyswapped with Captain Ginyu>Ginyu is stronger in Tagoma’s body than Tagoma himself, but instantly jobs to Gohan>Piccolo sacrifices himself again to save Gohan from Freeza and has to be resurrected >Gohan jobs hard to Freeza and has to power up all the way so Goku can lock onto his ki signature with Instant Transmission
I miss the Gammas…
>>286267254She's makes my peepee happy though.
>>286267285True. They are the jobber family!Goten is the only hope now...
>>286267456>GotenWhat if he turns evil and gains ultimate power...
Caulifa's armpits+my tongue. Do the math and solve for lick.
>>286267552This happened in CSM. I remember it.
>>286267552That yummy-yum...
>>286267532The manga will visit this in 2031...
>>286267365Pan is actually one of the few Z fighters that never died.
Pan will go UI Beast and kill black freezer!!!
Ore wa...
>>286267643Yup. Yup. Oob ( Forma de piel Blanca) will give her the needed spirit energy to send blacked frieza to hell.
Can Pan go Super Saiyan?
>>286267797No, what a jobbing loser! Goten learned it solo and she couldn't with the greatest martial artist of all time training her and her father's latent potential gene. What a useless jobbing character!
>>286267797She inherited Ultimate from her father. She doesn't need SSJ
>>286267552We deserve this
>>286267797No, because Toriyama at the time didn't or couldn't draw female Super Saiyans.>>286267880Made up headcanon.
>>286263708The three being Goku, Giru and Trunks.
>>286268308K, b, c.
K A M E W A V E
>>286267832Goten is just stuck with SS1. Even in video toy fanfics.
>>286268471Devil Goten SSJ11
>was forbidden to transform (even to Super Saiyan 1) by the Supreme Kai of Time because the energy could unintentionally damage/destroy the entire timeline he was in as collateral>a timeline contains its entire respective multiverse>has access to Super Full Power Saiyan 4 Limit BreakerEnter.
homero vs vegetahttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNKw3MnwvRQ
Saying that the original bardock tv special, the original broly, Janema, and so on are good while saying GT is bad is incoherent. Do you want Toei interfering with dragon ball or not?
>>286268742Those were good and GT was shit.There is a clear difference in quality.>pedo prequel imageFigures.
>>286268742>non-sequitur false equivalence faulty analogyGT is shit. End of story.
>A full power strike from Raditz was unable to harm Gohan, who had a power level of 1Raditz is the biggest joke in the franchise
>>286268840>toei contributions vs toei contributions are false analogiesno.
>>286269027Gohan after the attack: unconscious but there's no blood nor even a bruiseRaditz is PATHETIC
>>286269055>if you like X and Y, you must also like Z, because it shares a trait with X and YYour line of reasoning suggests mental illness.
GT is better
>>286269027Why is Bejita's half brother so cruel?
Sparking Zero can still top Xenoverse 3 if it revives the SDBH universe, including Xeno Goku, Vegeta, Mechikabura, Hearts and etc.
>>286269121
>he ranSuch is the fate of every pro-GT midwit.
>>286269217Toriyama drew this character.
>>286268742Old Toei isn't the same as new Toei.
>>286269121Than what?
>GT = rubbish>Jiren is the rubbish destroyerHoly fuarrk...
>>286269331all those things came from the same time period.
The god of ALL the universe.
>>286268605Our HERO.
>>286269537>HEROThe J out of nowhere.
>>286269204Sparking Zero can’t even get staples of BT3, they’re not bringing Heroes content in. Especially with how DBS coded the whole game is.XV3 will hopefully take all that.
>>286269457
>>286269508... is canonically Rymus.
>>286269457DBM characters still can't overcome time stop btw.
>>286269508>disappears from the story completely twice.>never seen or heard from again after Beerus beats up Goku
>>286269659You mean Zeno?
>>286269708There's not a single character in DB who can overcome time stop. No one is stronger than time.
>>286269659Creating the Universe on orders from a fat Demon guy doesn't make you the God of it. Construction Workers can build Houses but they don't own them. God, Daipa Lore is so fucking retarded. Why the fuck does Fatass Demon Nigger boss around a being who creates Universes? Toriyama's senility got so immense that it fucking killed him.
>>286265847Goten and Trunks are tired of always slipping into the retarded Fat Gotenks form literally every time they attempt to fuse, so head to the hyperbolic time chamber for serious training. Due to their careless nature; they destroy the portal to get back to the watchtower and are trapped in the time chamber. Attempting to re-create their/Super Buu’s escape, they do, but when they reappear it is into the Toei DragonBall Movie timeline. From this point forward it is nonstop action with the cleanest choreography that DragonBall has ever seen, exemplified by the silliness of child Gotenk’s creative powers but with a new, grittier, and adult determination due to them being young adults. Each mini-arc is a reflection of the arcs from DragonBall Z, Broly is the villain of their version of the Saiyan saga, Cooler is their Frieza, Bojack is their Cell, and finally Janemba is their Buu. Only fitting for Gogeta’s original foe to be passed down to his sons’ fusion.
>>286269600>traced babbleKek. GT has NOTHING going for it. Even its fans are just aping other works.
>>286269600Funny and true.
>>286269457k.b.c.
>>286269600Gold.>>286269457Mold.
Best transformation in the series
>>286269600Mold.>>286269457Gold.
>>286269600Based GTGAWD
>>286269457Kbc.>286269600Traced fanfic.
>>286270172True.>>286270206Wrong.
Best transformation in the series.
>>286270206True. >>286270172False.
BAM.
>>286270249Kino.>>286270187Sun Wukong is Gold, not Pink with gay eyeliner.
>>286270187True.>>286270249False.
>>286267136True. Toriyama's traced character lacks all of the good qualities of the original.
>>286270389Holy Opus.
>>286270389Daipa was garbage, so that's not saying much.
>>286269600Funny and factual.
>>286270187Why is Pan looking at naked adult Goku?
>>286270389Nah, it's still the original Super Saiyan transformation on Namek. Also Daipa and SS4 are both dogshit.
>>286263613>>286263940>what happenedBardock spares Muezli (and Granolah) because the way she protected her son reminded him of his own wife, Gine. Later, he tells Monaito that he is so used to destroying things that, for once, he wanted to save something. This moment highlights the lingering influence of his wife's kind-hearted nature on him.>fan concept of "improvement"Bardock actually cheated on his wife and was merely protecting his mistress and his bastard son.
IT'S DAIMA RETARDS
>GTurds and SHITperkeks fightingWe all know SS1 and SS2 are the best transformations.
>>286270389GOLD.>>286270497GOLD.
>>286270492Dragon Ball fans are known to be extremely retarded, especially western "fans". I'm glad the actual franchise owners don't take them seriously.
>>286270492The original is retarded too. He's already slaughtered scores of families before, why would this one out of all of them remind him of Gine and Kakarot? And it STILL does nothing to account for Raditz, the son he already had who grew up to be characteristic of every other Saiyan prior to Shitnus.
Objectively speaking, the best transformation was LORDhan's ascension to Super Saiyan 2.>b-but what aboutInferior.
>>286270557Toriyama is such a fucking moron. It's good that he's dead.
>>286270389Floppa.>>286270497Sloppa.
>>286270187Wait a minute, that's Oozaru Goku, whenever Goku transforms into Oozaru, his clothes get shredded to pieces. Why is SS4 Goku wearing adult pants and shoes?And when he returned to his base form, was he naked or wearing his kid clothes?
>>286270389I kinda miss when people were theorizing Goku would get a new form related to Magic or something Demonic.That would have been new and fun if it had magic powers or something different than just the usual powerup.Instead we got SS4 to make the people that wanted "canon" SS4 happy, but they still lost anyways because Daima SS4 looks worse than GT SS4.
>>286270264>>286269457>>286264815based
>>286270618Goku didn't want to be branded a pedophile by being naked in front of a little girl.
>>286263708His name is Debra
>>286270581>Below Dodoria FodderDodoria RAPED that bitch SeripaKEKYCHOOKY!!!
>>286270650>>Below Dodoria Fodder>bejita out of nowhere
>>286270607>even Daima has the JJiren has no limits.
>>286270581>Cuckdock's squad can't even take out mid tier generic Frieza soldiersBejita, Krillin, Gohan and random Namekians wiped them out with ease.
>>286270682kek
>>286270650>>286270703You can stop samefagging now, chimp.
Best transformation ever.
>>286270557>picThis would’ve happened under Toei instead of Cuckotaro.
>Can't refute it>Has to resort to Bejita, because the old saiyans were weaklings jobbers D?one.
Tenshinhan.
>>286270774Boring.
>>286270796..on opposite day.
>>286270628It's great because Poopma isn't even canon.
>>286270774>Shirtless SS3 with red eyesAgree.The best that form has ever looked.
>>286270682>>286270707>VEGETAVEGETAVEGETA>RTHMindbroken.
>>286270818>insane headcanon drawn by a mentally ill person
>>286270925Calm down, mate.
>>286270908Nah he is right.
FUARK
>>286270783At least he picked the better girl.
>>286271007Toei's Golden child!>>286270774Washed up celebrity of yesteryear.
If the coolest thing ever happens but nobody wants to see it happen, is it really that cool?
>>286271007So STRONG!
>>286271069The whole turning them into minis and the slow pacing really killed interest until the end.
>>286271095UE Bejita transformation will look like this in the remake.
>>286271007>>286271095Burter's pain toy.
HYPE
I can't believe Dragon Ball Super Beerus is going to job to Blue Box, The Apothecary Diaries, Black Clover, and the previously aired season of One Piece.
>>286271229>Jiren achieved Ear-jin 2Holy FUARRK...
>>286271229HUMANren the NORMAL...
>>286271145Even that's too good for this joke.
>>286262502It's better than wearing Goku's gi for the 12th time
>>286271303BOXERgeta the DECEASED
>>286263012You ever see Terminator Genisys? In 2029, Kyle Reese travels back in time to 1984 to stop Skynet (branded under "Genisys") from going online, but because of timeline shenanigans, he realizes that it only goes online in 2017 despite work for it happening now. Their solution is to use a time machine to travel to the day before it launches.This is the most retarded moment in the entire movie, because they turned a 33 year headstart into a 1 day headstart. Instead of doing anything to alter the timeline then, like finding any of the people who might have worked on it decades in advance, they squander the entire time they had so that Genisys is a major company and secure facility right on the edge of launching. The point is that Kyle Reese went back in time for the purpose of stopping Skynet before it starts, in the same way Trunks goes back in time to prevent the androids from happening. And like Terminator Genisys, the characters squander the opportunity they're given for negligible benefits (outside of maybe Vegeta).
>>286271303Bejita with bruise boils makes me laugh every time.
>>286264936I actually prefer this over the special because if Gohan really was able to handle one of the androids, he'd have beaten them ages ago.
XenoverseChads won.
>>286271229I wonder if that Jiren has a human cock...
>The power of myself... in the palm of my hand...
>>286271437Very Odd how Goku nor the other Z fighters like Piccolo ever bothered to communicate to Gohan and Bulma via King Kai.
>>286262502You're fucking retarded. This shit slaps, it's by far the best Gohan ever looked and one of the best outfits in dragon ball. Are you just upset he didn't keep wearing piccolo's clothes after the cell games?
>>286266328>Garbage headcanon not written by Toriyama
so when do beerus and whis get smaller roles or die because im fucking sick of the omg food so good xD shit
>>286272311Never, because Beerus and Whis are dragon ball's Rosencrantz and Guildenstern,
Who and the what now?
Kek they leaked it Xenoverse 3 confirmed
>>286272427with modern toriyama lore
>>286272427Juana is canon btw.
>>286272427>Purposeful leakDone.
>>286272427>OPUSro arc>GODper remake>Xenoverse 3Holy FUARK Toei and Bamco, we are gonna get tired of winning if you continue kek.
Why would they use some vague project name, if it's just Xenoverse 3? I'm not saying the leak is inaccurate, it just doesn't make any sense.
>SLOPverseAaaaaaand my expectations have already hit rock bottom.
>>286272591Age 1000 is the setting.They will probably use the DB Online setting and lore for Xeno 3.
Don't understand the appeal for Xenoverse 3, the mechanics fucking suck and the previous game models were so trash, the Budokai Tenkaichi/Sparking series remain superior in everything and the mechanics are top notch, Sparking Zero is just carying on the legacy, I'd rather wait for the next Sparking game.
>all of this for a Goku toy.Lol
>>286272719Xeno gets new story and continues to get content.Budokai/Sparking die after being released.
>>286272739This is pure fucking loser behavior.
ENOUGH FROM THE JOBBER
Vegeta, Krillin, Tien, Yamcha...
>>286273115
>>286270818DBS if Toriyama was honest
DBS if it was written by a mentally ill fujo.
This is how UE Bejita vs UI Goku would go down btw
>>286272591Ages XXX is a big part of Xenoverse. Age 1000 is the age the game will take place I guess.
>>286272719Xenoverse is for autists who want to self insert into the world. You wouldn't get it.
>>286273510Yeah, I'm not an autistic piece of fat, ugly shit like you, so I guess I wouldn't.
>>286273541>projectionMy Xenoverse OC being able to solo your hero got you seething kek!
>>286273566>videotoy manchild retard wants me to play toys with himNope.
>>286273587Never said I wanted to do any raids with you. Again just spouting delusional statements.
>>286273663>mentions having to be autistic to get into Xenoslop>gets mad when he's called autisticAutistic "people" shouldn't have human rights.
>>286273587>videotoy manchild retarSHITren lost.
>>286273745I've been waiting for a Xenoverse 3, why would I be the one seething?
>>286273824>babbling about Jiren out of nowhereStupid manchild.>>286273830See >>286273510
BEAST MODE
>>286273843? I'm mad because there's a Xenoverse 3 coming out I can now autistically self insert in?
>>286273872You are obese.
>>286273896I'm a healthy weight so I can match my Xenoverse toons actually
There's 42 individuals named Jiren in the US and they're all Hispanic.
I just want Xenoverse 3 to have Legendary Super Saiyan as an Awoken Skill. Hell, I'll even take Ikari.
>>286273938Which character has the most Mexican kids named after them? I think that will decide who is the strongest once and for all.
>>286273417>needed Goku REMOVED from his own BODY in order to win
>>286266758The devs and staff had fun with it. All those unique scenarios from the games? Heroes did an entire game based around that. You can roll your eyes over stuff like the dark Dragon Balls and OC's, but they still tried new stuff while respecting the canon stuff from the manga and anime. The fact that they killed it off for another game that barely lasted a year was one of the most baffling things they ever did. Super was a big mistake, the IP was being carried by Heroes and also decided to give GT some care and attention, which was the right direction to take. Heroes should have gotten a proper animated adaption that expanded on GT, Super in spite of some good characters was really a mistake, I can't stress that enough.Heroes took what Dragon Ball had and expanded on it. There's at least one scenario or situation that you'll like.
>>286272591Exactly. It's the same with thinking DBS is getting a full remake instead of just BoG. Even if it's true, why not just say it while you have the big 40th anniversary event to do so, instead of waiting a month so some SEAnigger intern can fuck up on social media?
>>286274506>You can roll your eyes over stuff like the dark Dragon Balls and OC'sTheir OCs were great. Hearts, the rape demon, the glass chicks. All based.
>>286263416You're a fucking retard. Both Super and Minus both show Bardock is STILL a killer and a warrior. he still kills entire races, he just cares about HIS family. Which is consistent with every fath son saiyan depicted. King Vegeta loved his Son, Paragus loved his Son, and Bardock caring about his sons stays consistent. and yes Vegeta cared about his Dad.
I want to repopulate the world in the future timeline with Bulma.
>>286274660I got no issue with them. I know some people will scream holy hell about it but all the over the top shit made it interesting. If they can accept a recolored SSJ Goku and Bluer Vegeta, they can handle a dark Dragon Ball lodged in Broly's chest.
>>286274678>Which is consistent with every fath son saiyan depicted.Toriyama and his pet Muttotaro must not have gotten the memo.
>>286274678>appealing to nu-canon portrayals of saiyan behavior to say the new depiction is consistentThe new depiction doesn't even line up with how Bardock actually looks.
>>286273938Proof?
>>286265191Goku shows the form before the Dabra fight, it's how he overloads Yakon when he very briefly transforms, which Vegeta catches and is salty about. Yes, Gohan's initial transformation was treated more as his latent potential being brought out by his emotions and losing all reservations, Gohan's true power being unleashed while in Super Saiyan. And yes, it took until the Boo arc for it to be treated as a sequential upgrade to Super Saiyan, but the Yakon moment is where it first implies it, not Dabra.
>>286266008lolno
>>286272719Xenoverse is for modding and cool fanfiction.
CHADnoverse 3 will destroy SHARTing Zero.
>>286275604SHARTing Zero flushed itself when it launched missing features that were present 20 years ago and even in the spic-made BT4.
>>286275604>>286275646SHARTing Zero feels so bad to play. BT3/4 is so fucking snappy and consistent in comparison, which is saying something, because it has its fair share of jank.
>>286274709Future Gohan’s beautiful mommywife.
I wish I was never born, bros.
>>286275898Sorry bro... life is hard
Damn! Jiren's got the moves!
>>286275898>>286275970Same...
Vegeta and Goku
>>286277255lost.
>>286272171History of Trunks only works if Toriyama pretends the usual fantastical stuff that always helps Goku out of a pinch doesn't exist. Like how Gohan never used the Time Chamber
>>286273417UE Bejita defeats UI Goku but it would be extreme diff.
Can a smart individual explain to this retard >>286277215 why he just outed themselves as samefagging after getting called out?
>Evangesissy gets BTFO and comes to The Scholarly Table for back up.Gtfo doomerkek.
>>286277284he's so strong and hot...
>>286277604Bulma….
>>286270389God Daima was fucking awful. Some nice animation and a few good ideas, but overall it's just so shit.
>doesn't become Goku's adopted daughterAnd that's why Daima sucks.
I am the WEAKEST.
>>286266487that's an homage, the opposite of disrespecting the legacy.
>>286270389Comparing this to GT SS4's first appearance is insane. Like there's no way the same company could have been behind both. It's insane how much shittier this scenario is in every way.
Why did Goku do this?
>>286277874kek
>>286277669*mistress
>>286277830It would have been a fine homage if he or Goku weren't already strong enough to speedblitz the ugly bastard before he had time to "cause an earthquake". That kind of gag doesn't work if the guy doing it should need to in the first place because he's orders of magnitude stronger.
>>286262502I mean at least it's pretty unique, makes him stand out from the othersneed the full Great Saiyanman ensemble though
>>286277295Future/Android arc as a concept is just bad. Honestly, I prefer the Buu arc over it.
Gentlemen, I am hungry
>>286278200Gimme those burgers
>>286277669She's 80.
>>286277874This is what happens to Beerus when he jobs to jjk season 3 part 2 in the fall.
>>286278223NEVER>eats remaining burgers