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Volume 49
The Gokage Summit Commences
Chapter 454: Enter the Gokage...!!
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oh boy here it comes, ai upscaled chapp spam and ai generated replies. aren't you embarrassed?
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kusogaki
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ENTER
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>>286973626
so far the mist is the better looking of the villages.
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>>286973665
HAG
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>>286973487>>286973523
>ENTER
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>>286973502
I also watch movies or youtube while working
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>>286973646
does she ever have kids, or does that hag body go to waste
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>>286973744
naruto probably got a boner form all that black chick's pressure .
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>>286973811
powerful...
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>>286973646
sex with hags
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>>286973626
The mist is very aesthetic. If they weren't forcing their academy students to murder each other in cold blood, I wouldn't mind living there.
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B&W
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>>286973811
All this suffering for Sasuke to fuark his crush....
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>>286973811
what a fucking retard, this is the worst thing you could possibly do as a foreign messenger-soldier
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>>286973462
sexo with mizukage or whatever she's called.
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>>286973462
ARIGATO, OUR LEADER!
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>>286973705
what what in japanese in that sure panel? haiiiiii?
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>>286973811
>naruto acts smart last chapter and properly de-escalates conflict
>goes back to acting like a complete retard next chapter
man
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>>286973578
>stone village of the land of earth
I was expecting an underground village or something like the western air temple. this just looks like a shitty cloud village.
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>>286973863
Zabuza made them give up on that when he killed a whole generation of ninjas. Truly the reformer of all time.
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>>286973811
>I must e-endure the punches... for my friend who tried to kill me and became a traitor and tries to destroy my village ... AIIEEE
HAHHAHAHAHAHAAHAH
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>>286973646
How the FUCK did she not marry in Boruto?
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>>286973487
>one of these things is not like the other
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>>286973984
Only like 4 characters from the Naruto manga even exist to Ikemoto.
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>>286973965
Another GODbuza W. My GOAT.
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>>286973811
Foreign spy/informant duties aside, I really can't blame her for lashing out at this pathetic display in front of her.
>okay i'll tell you about sasuke
>nvm i refuse to sell out my terrorist boycrush
>uhh you can't kill him or else me and my friends will kill you
>what should you do instead?
>uhhhhhhhhhhhhh
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iK02QF8Pw84
new official short (PLEASE CARE ABOUT IRUKA edition)
WHAT IS THEIR ENDGAME WITH THESE POSTS
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>>286973578
this guy? would have solo'd Pain
>>286973594
Kurotsuchi a cute
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>>286974003
You can't just call women things.
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>>286973594
Oh damn, her eyes look much nicer here. The color makes her look less like a Shizune clone.
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Naruto must be read when you're a teen. Otherwise you turn into those complaining retards.
When I was a teen, it was just mhmh...hmmm...i see... i just read and accepted his writing.
Naruto is only great when you're a kid or a teen.
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>>286974039
Naruto said he'd tell them about the Akatsuki and she should have just been happy with that since they already established that jinchuriki are captured alive by them.
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>>286973811
he's truly jesus christ
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>>286973725
I thought he was already willing to tell them about the Akatsuki and said they'll help him out? Why are they physically threatening him like this?
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>>286973968
and people will try and argue Naruto isn't spiritually a woman
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>>286973986
>>286974064
>>286974139

Clothes look so silly, not fitting for a president. that's how a random jobber npc would dress.
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>>286974078
I had the same reaction as a stupid teenager. ANY normal person considered Naruto's actions as GAY FAGGOT desu... people are complaining about Naruto acting like a retard
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>>286973811
What a fucking cuck.
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>>286973811
Sai just watching from afar makes this even funnier.
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>>286974139
I just noticed Raikage's belt meant to look like wwe championship belt.
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>>286973811
KWAB Moment
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>>286973744
>>286974186
Naruto part 1 chunin exam arc would go and kill Sasuke himself... the downfall of a hero
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Done!
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>>286974232
kek
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>>286973626
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>>286974186
rare Hinata. warms my heart
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>>286973665
was something lost in translation?
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>>286974265
thanks op.
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>>286974078
Maybe it's just you being a retard. I noticed all this dogshit writing back when I was reading this in middle school.
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I always thought Naruto was 2nd best of the big 3 writing wise but reading these chapters I think it might actually be worse than One Piece.
Then I checked out some One Piece chapters and felt more confident in my ranking of Naruto being 2nd best.

HOW THE FUCK ARE THEY SO BAD
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>>286973594
she is here ~<3
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>>286973791
>>286973811
>>286974091
>“You have heard that it was said, ‘Eye for eye, and tooth for tooth.’ But I tell you, do not resist an evil person. If anyone slaps you on the right cheek, turn to them the other cheek also. And if anyone wants to sue you and take your shirt, hand over your coat as well.
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Hiashi won.
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>naruto's mentor is killed
>has the privilegde to teleport to a mountain retreat to seek the wisdom and strength of wise sages
>his mentor's killer shows up to his neighborhood looking for him
>fights him, gives in to his rage, then gets bailed out in an impossibly lucky situation
>gets to have a philosophical talk where the killer just gives up and revives the people he just killed while telling him that he's jiraiya's hope

>cloud chick's mentor is presumed killed
>has to hoof it across the country for info on the killer
>meets up with the killer's #1 cocksuckers who start shitting and crying when you tell them what he did
>they tell you that your mentor is (probably) alive but won't be for long
>they offer info then pivot into refusing to "sell out" the killer
>offers no real solution other than "revenge sad stop being bad"

Am I supposed to think the cloud are being unreasonable here? Especially when Sasuke has an official kill-on-sight order on him?
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>>286974201
How would Minato react to Naruto getting beat for his gay boyfriend's sins?
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>>286973811
I wanna get beat up by a black redhead...
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>>286974352
I'm pretty sure the bible says you're supposed to punish and defend yourself against dangerous terrorists who want to kill everyone though
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>>286973968
Naruto is enduring the punches for the guy who was willing to die for him despite Sasuke's goals and then let him live twice... despite Naruto interfering with Sasuke's goals.
To find out what's even up with this guy he'd take some punches for him, sure.
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>>286973542
>No Konan
Owari
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>>286974348
They were called "the big 3" because of popularity only.
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>>286974339
Keep lying.
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>>286974405
Like Goku reacted to Cell beating Gohan to near death.
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>>286974201
Rare Minato....Still 50 chappys before you....
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>>286974402
>Am I supposed to think the cloud are being unreasonable here?
they're bitches for imposing their foriegn affairs with force and if I was Kage I would toss them in jail and give Raikage a talking to but otherwise not at all
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>>286974455
Never read DB.
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>>286974508
>WAKUWAKU, YOU GO, SON! JUST KEEP GETTING YOUR ASS KICKED!
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>>286973791
>>286973811
You can't tell me he isn't enjoying it.
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So Naruto isn't allowed to grieve and react aggressively due Jiraiya's death, but this black bitxh is allowed to beat him?
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>>286973725
They finna rape him behind this shed
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>>286974436
>solo king remains dozens of chapters after his death
>not one mention of him until a brief comment from the last chapter
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>>286973646
Reminder she'd destroy Tsunade in a fight.
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Village hidden in the black ghetto
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>>286974535
Wrong.
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>>286974539
WE MUST BE BETTER NINJA
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>>286974434
>>>286973968 #
>Naruto is enduring the punches for the guy who was willing to die for him
That happened one time when they barely knew each other many years ago. Since then he abandoned his home to join the guy who killed the Hokage, attempted to murder both him and Sakura, joined the terrorist group and probably got a foreigner of high status killed, putting Konoha in hot water with another nation and pissing away all of Tsunade's efforts to not declare him a rogue ninja.
Just because he saved Naruto's life at one point doesn't mean that he should be excused for how much of a piece of shit he became.
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>>286974539
he drank pervy sage's kool aid and now he believes he's the white savior
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>>286974215
>>286974232
How did Narutards reacted to this moment back then?
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This is actually a big brain political move by Naruto. He can walk right back to town and claim Raikage's envoys tried to assassinate him
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>>286973725
>>286973822
I'm hard now
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>>286974315
in the Japanese he says some words that are homophones for spinsters and old maids, which is kinda hard to translate.

>>286974402
does anyone argue the Cloud were in the wrong? I kinda figured they were intentionally more intelligent and wise than Naruto & Co., with the intent being that "sometimes you can't just be coldly logical, you have to rely on your gut instinct".
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>>286974571
my bad it was actually
>WAKUWAKU CELL YOU'RE IN FOR IT NOW! JUST KEEP BEATING MY SON'S ASS AND THEN HE'LL BEAT YOU UP! STOP BEING SUCH A PUSSY SON!
and then Piccolo goes
>GOKU YOU FUCKING RETARD ARE YOU BLIND
and then Goku goes
>ERRRRM I THINK I MAY HAVE ACTUALLY MADE AN OOPSIE
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>>286973811
KEEEEK
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>>286973487
>let's introduce these villages that never mattered until now
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>>286974159
>He smiled at me once...he cares...
Naruto, bruh.
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>>286973744
What was Naruto even supposed to say? All he knows that could help them is that Sasuke can use the chidori. Everything else is public knowledge
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>>286974402
They should be looking for Bee instead of wasting their time beating up Naruto. In fact, I don't know why Naruto didn't tell them this. He probably just really really wanted to get beat up by the hot black foreign chick.
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>>286974215
>>286974232
Should be Sakura instead
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>>286974644
so goku believed gohan could win... and that's actually what happened in the end.
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>>286974434
>To find out what's even up with this guy he'd take some punches for him, sure.
he could find out anytime by asking Kakashi/Tsunade/Orochimaru/Jiraiya but it feels silly to see him only vaguely caring and acting emotionally, it feels really cheap
like he doesn't care about the world that he's living in
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>>286973646
>forehead protector is now a chest protector
ugh
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>>286974644
Dragon Shit.
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>>286974624
Raikage is the king of gaslighting and would just say that they acted on their own and would be punished on their return, this would only give Danzo another excuse to keep the jinchuriki out of danger if he's being jumped by randos inside the land of fire.
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>>286973462
I can already tell who will be the least important Kage
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>>286973594
New waifu
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>>286973578
>ENTER
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>>286973705
why are they black yo
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>>286974624
holy shit you're right
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>>286973811
Are we supposed to pretend Naruto isn't winning here?
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>>286974186
I swear they acted more serious when they were kids.
Those are some pms teens.
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>>286974756
Being eye candy is very important actually. So important that every squad needs to have the designated talking ornament.
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>>286974802
He's bleeding, making him the victor.
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>>286973646
nail polish
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>>286974643
>I kinda figured they were intentionally more intelligent and wise
Not really, they're pretty retarded.
>be envoys who entered a nation that suffered a lot of damage after a terrorist attack
>see random soldiers of said nation discuss info that you're interested in, walk up to them and threaten them with your weapons
>one of them eventually says that he'll help you out
>proceed to physically threaten him again, even after he said he'll comply
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>>286973811
this white boy... how dare he not pay reparations!!
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>>286974644
there's a reason the Cell saga is consistently stated to have had the worst writing
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>>286974078
As a teen you might accept or not Naruto LARPing as Jesus here, but as an adult you can see Karui and Darui acting like this as foreign informants is ridiculous
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>>286974539
As far as they know, Bee is still alive. Bee is alive, presumably Sasuke took him, and they're trying to find out anything they can about Sasuke. How he looks, his skills/techniques, potential weaknesses, his location, known associates, others who may know more, anything. This sort of loses a bit of weight when Kishi himself goes through the trouble to make Naruto tells them he's probably alive. Now instead of hunting down a murderer, they're trying to save a hostage. The circumstances change drastically because now they're racing against the clock to save a life rather than go out on a mission of revenge and retribution. Them attacking Naruto for protecting a criminal was already not entirely unjustifiable. Them attacking Naruto for protecting a criminal while they're racing to now save Bee makes more sense. Politically of course it's a bad look, but so is withholding information about a fucking criminal committing murder and terrorism because he was your friend a few years ago.
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>>286974802
Naruto is strategically breaking her fists with his face. You can only find such brand of tactics in Ippo.
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>>286974232
This is the future hokage?
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>>286974315
>all made
>old maid
sound kinda the same
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>>286973811
Imagine reading this series past this page. I laugh at you all.
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Na-ru-toe? Who dat?
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>>286974352
>If anyone slaps you on the right cheek, turn to them the other cheek also.
The cultural context has been lost over thousands of years. Jesus wasn't saying "offer yourself up like a bitch", he was saying to keep your pride.
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>>286973725
Wait, where the fuck did Sakura go? Did she seriously just let Naruto go talk with these cloud niggers by himself behind some random house?
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>>286974929
Your husband silly
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>>286973615
>the great fence sitter
What does that mean?
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>>286974215
>>286974232
This is why Naruto is so popular in the west. he is literally a christian
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>>286974833
>said nation has knowingly harboured a wanted criminal, one who just (presumably) killed your two greatest war assets
>said ninja refuse to comply with direct legal orders to share information

you seem to forget the Cloud are supposed to be on equal footing to the Leaf, and also have a culture of "no bullshit" along with a strong code of justice. they're already a few days away from declaring war. Naruto is directly and brazenly insulting them and acting as if he is above the law to their face. He's lucky they didn't say 'fuck this' and go back home to report to the Raikage that the Leaf refused to comply.
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>>286974644
You have never read Dragon Ball.

>>286974848
That's true but this part was absolutely fine.
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>>286974966
naruhodo....
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>>286974885
I guess the message was YOUR FRIEND CAN BECOME A TERRIBLE PERSON AND TRY TO KILL YOU AND YOUR FRIEND AND JOIN CRIMINAL ORGANIZATION BUT YOU MUST HELP HIM BECAUSE HE MUST HAVE A GOOD REASON.. HE A GOOD BOY AT HEART... FRIENDSHIP POWER! kek

This is why we can't get more content
no one is buying this
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>>286974958
Yes she comes running when she sees whats going on but trips and falls on her stupid face or some shit lmfaooo
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>>286974612
Part 1 Naruto would sell out Sasuke if it means getting Sakura to cloud ninjas. He was a crafty brat. He drew the hard line at murderers. Part 2 Naruto is an idiot in comparison to Part .
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>>286974887
Fun fact it actually happens
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>>286973811
Are we going to see Sakura's reaction?
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>>286975020
Damn
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>>286973829
Why do they want to kill Anko?
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>>286973705
[where the hood at starts playing]
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>>286974996
>Naruto is directly and brazenly insulting them and acting as if he is above the law to their face.
Why is Naruto the representative for the village from their perspective? He doesn't want to sell out his former friend which is entirely reasonable. Chimping out on him accomplishes nothing.
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>The kumo lives... they matter. I kneel in respect and apologize.
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Don't worry guys Naruto can tune in his sennin mode and heal real quick
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>>286974674
The whole thing feels kind of forced
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>>286974554
idk tsunade could summon katsuya and split her up and just have her spray acid at mei constantly
then grab a building and throw it at her while shes dodging
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>>286974957
No, he was 100% telling people to offer themselves up like a bitch.
>and if anyone wants to sue you and take your coat, give your cloak as well
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>>286974996
>said nation has knowingly harboured a wanted criminal
Says who? For all they knew, Sasuke could've acted on his own even if he wasn't a rogue ninja.
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>>286973705
Our HEROES!
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>>286973811
GIWTWM
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>>286975011
Super Saiyan Goku is smarter than Naruto.He knows the best fighter are sore losers. Even 23rd Budokai Goku would beat Cell easily cause the villain copy the technique of others but can't improvise.
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>>286975117
I mean he was outlasting the hottie with just his face anyway
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>>286974232
fuuuuuuuqqqq.... so hawt.... i wish i was in karui's place
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>>286975022
It just doesn't make sense thematically. By Naruto's own evaluation of the situation, Bee is alive. He really doesn't know much that can help them get to Bee, but withholding any information at this point doesn't make any sense. As of right now they don't want to pursue Sasuke out of revenge, but to save Bee. Naruto saying nothing is just him telling them to let Bee die, let them take the 8 tails, and let them do what they want because he doesn't want to run the risk of their interference resulting in Sasuke dying. It's just retarded.
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>>286975113
this is already the "please fuck my wife" meme, get in line.
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>>286974957
it was meant to be an insult as well. in Roman culture, an open-palm right handed slap was what you used against an unruly slave. turning your right cheek to them would force them to use a backhanded slap or their left hand, which was highly undignified and was basically forcing the Roman to "step down the their level".
>if you are to slap me, I will force you to do it in such a way that you will lose your own honour".
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>>286973811
T-THIS is your MC? How didn't sales plummit after this?
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>>286973811
Why is she hurting him more than Pain? Shouldn't he be more tanky?
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>>286973725
>puts arm against Naruto's back before he even starts resisting
Why are kumo niggas like this
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>>286973811
Kekypow
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>>286974996
>report to the Raikage that the Leaf refused to comply.
The Leaf actually complied by finally declaring Sasuke a criminal and giving the Cloud information. They are not under obligation to answer to the envoys who out of their own initiative go and assault their soldiers after having already suffered a mass scale terrorist attack.
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>>286975104
>Why is Naruto the representative for the village from their perspective? He doesn't want to sell out his former friend which is entirely reasonable. Chimping out on him accomplishes nothing.
like uhhh.. because Naruto and Sakura were acting like their precious Sasuke could never do such a horrible thing??? and were calling him their friend?? when the entire Konohagakure were supposed to know he's a violent murderer criminal that just attcked their village directly? jeez I wonder WHY. fuck Bitchruto
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>>286973811
Sai: "God I wish that was me"
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>>286974971
He's a huge ass centrist.
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>>286974232
>Naruto tanked that
My hero.
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>>286973811
>>286975228
I need a collage of GENDEREQUALITYruto
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>>286973811
Sasuke should at least give him a handy for this. It's nice that Naruto is practicing what he preaches but there had to be a way for it to not be portrayed like a disaster
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>>286974674
It really is forced drama. I have no idea what Naruto knows that could be of any relevance to what they care about; finding where Bee is and saving him.
Kishi is desperately trying to tie this into the overall theme of "ending the cycle of hatred" but it falls flat when Naruto is essentially saying
>Yeah your master is probably alive. No won't tell you anything about the guy that kidnapped him and is trying to kill him. Why not? Because he was my friend. I know he's a criminal now but he's my friend so just punch me to feel better or something while your master is being drained to death by the Akatsuki
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>>286975228
Naruto unironically just likes getting punched by redheads. He inherited his father's taste and there's nothing wrong with that.
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Pinkshit as usual useless, Naruto has to step up
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>>286975086
Anko has been MIA for a while because she was sent out on a secret mission and this detail was presumably kept from Danzo. he assumes she's defected to rejoin Orochimaru (he is aware of her past as one of his test subjects) and therefore wants to eliminate her before she becomes a problem.
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>>286973462
For a second I thought Naruto was flipping a bird.
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>>286975233
That doesn't make him a representative. The substitute hokage already gave the green light to hunt Sasuke. Some random brat who was his former friend is irrelevant.
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I'm starting to think Narutofags are masochists
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AAAAIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEE ahh chapter
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>>286975275
Both parties are being stupid for not focusing on what matters.
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>>286975228
2nd time Nardo's got beaten up by a black girl for Sasuke
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>>286973777
>>286973861
Kishi fucking hates hags, it seems. Not like Kubo or Oda.
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>>286973646
ENTER

THE CYBORG GUY FROM BORUTO
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>>286973811
This is his punishment for not talking to Hinata btw.
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>>286974988
He did NOT turn the other cheek against Orochimaru.
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>>286973811
I know it was his suggestion, but isn't beating up another Shinobi, during a seemingly peaceful delivery, still some sort of criminal offense? Maybe even one or two steps before a declaration of war?
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>>286975086
Same reason as Kabuto. He wants to erase any people who could know about his history with Orochimaru.
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>>286975348
>>THE CYBORG GUY FROM BORUTO
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>>286975320
It's almost like both are being forced to be retarded for the sake of generating drama. Cloud niggas beating Naruto for stress relief when they should be doing literally anything else to further their goal of saving their master, Naruto baiting them by telling them Bee's probably still alive then saying "I ain't gonna say shit, fuck you", it's all so fucking dumb.
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>>286973791
Naruto's thinly veiled masochism fetish
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>>286975305
bro Naruto is a ninja... it's his JOB... he literally told them I have information but I'm not giving it because I side with the criminal that attacked your village. Like if the cloud niggas were justified to KILL him. are we even aware NINJAS ARE TOOLS... or something...
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>>286975275
he knows far more about the Akatsuki and their motives than anyone else in the world does besides other Akatsuki members. he literally just spoke to their leader and got a solid rundown of their origins and plans.
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>>286975011
Everyone who goes "Goku was right!" forgets the part where Goku himself realizes he's wrong in literally the next few pages and they all would have died if Android 16 didn't give Gohan the talk he needed to unleash his rage. Gohan was never going to unleash his anger and would have just fallen into despair as Cell brutalized him and killed his family one by one.
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>>286973744
I don't get the conflict in this. It feels so retarded. He already said Bee could still be alive, can't he just say something like
>Your master must still be alive, I'll tell you all I know and help you track him down before the Akatsuki kills him, but on one condition; If and when we get to Sasuke, I ask that you won't try to kill him and let us Konoha shinobi handle him, since he is one of our own.
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>>286973791
>me and my comrades
Does Naruto really thinks that Konoha cares about Sasuke? kek
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>>286974958
Naruto told Sakura to mind her own business and she obeyed
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>you now remember all this fanart of Sakura beating Karui despite jobbing horribly when they met
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>>286974674
>What was Naruto even supposed to say?
Basically this >>286975454
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>>286975368
Bexy
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>>286975456
Sasuke is higher on the hierarchy than Konoha.
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>>286973829
Creepy ass smile
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>>286975501
Why does Kishimoto hate Sakura and her fans so much
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>>286975501
Sakura stans have never taken the 5KS arc well. They're rewriting the series with their hallucinations to this day.
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>>286975501
>implying Suckura would cry for anyone other than herself or Sasuke
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>>286975454
Because muh cycle of hatred or something. That may be thematically relevant if they just kept going "we want revenge", but it's retarded when they all think it's actually a rescue mission.
Just imagining some faggot going "No, I won't give any information about Sasori, he was my friend" as Gaara was being drained to death. Naruto would have been hassling the fuck out of them going "HE'S FUCKING DYING RIGHT NOW WE JUST WANT TO SAVE HIM"
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>>286975544
Tbqh it is a really shitty arc, even if it can be fun at times.
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>>286975538
Narusaku fillers
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>>286974201
>A battle against hatred, that's what shinobi are... That's why i personally slit the throats of thousands of shinobi who never saw me coming nor had a chance to fight back. Some of them may have been women and children, i'm not sure. They're all meat to me and i'm a great butcher.
>And i was a good person
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>>286975592
I used to think this but Naruto gains so much depth here that I don't care if it's at the cost to Sakura's dignity.
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>>286975425
>it's his JOB
Naruto is above the law and he has no reason to respect SHITzo's orders. In the past four years he has
>saved the village from a giant sand nuke
>personally convinced a deserted sannin to come home and become Hokage
>saved the Kazekage
>defeated Pain and personally convinced Nagato to revive everybody
>contributed to the dismantlement of the Akatsuki by being directly involved in the neutralisation of Kakuzu and Pain, and the defection of Konan and Nagato. As far as the village knows and cares, he was also a participant in the missions that neutralised Sasori and Hidan
OUR HERO doesn't answer to glowies.
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>From defeating Pain to this
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>>286975449
Again, WRONG.

Goku second guessed himself. People keep sucking Piccolo's dick like he's objectively right when he thought Gohan died of a kiai 10 seconds in. Goku not only was objectively right, he made everything happen as it needed to. The only alternatives would have been headcanons of coaching Gohan to get to SS2 during the 10 days prior but that's assuming this is possible at all and the narrative would imply it's not (mostly because it facilitates drama by requiring powerups to be achieved in climactic moments instead of simulation but that's besides the point)
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>>286975627
During all that Danzo jacked off in a bunker.
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>>286975627
>saved the Kazekage
That was Chiyo, EXCUSE YOU
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>>286975625
What depth lmao
He gets the worst treatment in this arc right after Sakura
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>>286975598
it's because he's killed people he can accurately reflect on the meaning of it all. it would be presumptuous as hell for some civilian to say that shit, for the same reason it is for you or I to try and grandstand about military morality when neither of us have ever even seen a battlefield.
Minato doesn't call himself a good person
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>>286975592
5KS is actually pretty good. Maybe even one of the best. Good fights, designs, and funny dialogues go a long way. That's all Kishimoto can deliver.
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Why didn't the Cloud go hassle the Spring and Waterfall village after the Akatsuki killed Yugito?
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>>286974159
>Naruto wants this back
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>>286974929
He remembers..
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>>286975432
Not that telling Karui and Omoi about the origins of Akatsuki and their end goals would help anyway. Right now, the rational thing to do would be to stop them and say
>I know you're upset but we can talk about this later. Right now our top priority should be putting together a team to track your master and save him. We don't have much time to waste.
But then it wouldn't really fit into the cycle of hatred theme so Kishi just threw the towel. You can really pinpoint this arc as the one where the writing goes from questionable/bad to atrocious.
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>>286975714
You have shit taste.
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>>286975437
They're unironically perfect together, why was Kishimoto so averse to letting them interact?
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>>286975681
He gaslit her into killing herself with his angry speech. No other ninja in Konoha or Suna could accomplish this.
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>>286975627
Really makes you think how small this worldbuilding is, huh?
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>>286974232
This is unironically worse than the Eren page.
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>200+ posts halfway to 300 in only an hour.
You can tell he's gonna go on overdrive when that fake confession chapter is posted. Expect a tsunami of fake posts.
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>>286975745
I accurately assessed that Sasuke going whoooosh with Susano through the Kage gauntlet while Zetsu throws shit around and Danzo shoots himself in the foot is about as high as this manga can fly (aka not so much)
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>>286975682
The things that bother him stop being nebulous so that he can confront them with clarity, he identifies an emotional crutch and becomes more true to his own feelings from moving on from it, doesn't betray his ideals but reaffirms them in the face of cultural pressure and articulates what he wants to say vs the disasters of the last two times he saw Sasuke.
This is a good arc for Naruto's character.
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>>286975719
who was around to report that Hidan and Kakuzu killed her? they vaguely are aware the Akatsuki are responsible but have no idea who the Akatsuki were before someone happened to see Sasuke battle Bee. it was their first real lead, which is why they went straight to Konoha. and they get there only to find out Sasuke bounced three years ago and Konoha deliberately hid that fact from the other villages, AND hid intel on the Akatsuki.
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>>286973791
Naruto, remember how you made friends with Nagato's not-girlfriend who was also an Akatsuki? Maybe she can help you track down the other Akatsukis and save Bee before it's too late. That way you may even avoid the Cloud killing Sasuke out of vengeance.
No? You're just gonna let the black girl beat you to death instead? Ok, then...
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>>286975738
>A special trait of those with Uzumaki blood is their red hair
FUCK OFF KISHI YOU MADE THAT UP AS YOU WENT ALONG REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>286975738
Why Naruto's hair isn't red
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>>286975845
This is true. Execution is lacking as shown in this chapter >>286975743 but this is good growth character wise.
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OUT OF THE WAY SAKURA I WANT THIS
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>>286975627
>>saved the village from a giant sand nuke
gained political allies*
>>personally convinced a deserted sannin to come home and become Hokage
a big stretch. His teacher refused the job and took him there as a tool to get her to take the Hokage job
>>saved the Kazekage
they had the same enemy, political ally
>>defeated Pain and personally convinced Nagato to revive everybody
the moment he was supposed to become Hokage since he was the most powerful in the village

Hokage is a JOB... NARUTO IS THE GLOWIE
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>>286975501
Imagine if Karui beat them both
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>>286975743
and why would they listen to him? he already let slip he knows a ton of info on Sasuke and the Akatsuki, they wouldn't just say "yes massa thanks you massa please can I wash yo feets?"
they'd tell him to go fuck himself and spill the beans. they already don't trust the Leaf, and everything new they learn only serves to make the Leaf look more incompetent. Why SHOULD they want to work with the Leaf? as far as they're concerned, the Leaf should be grateful they don't just declare war.
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>>286975845
He doesn't confront or reaffirm shit, are you kidding me? He tells Karui to beat the shit out of him instead of killing Sasuke, he gets on his knees and beseeches the Raikage which doesn't go anywhere, and when he sees that Sasuke almost murdered Sakura in cold blood he just goes "YOU AHH MY FRIEND" and lets him leave with Obito.
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>>286975842
Why does physical damage reflect on the mind transfer user, what is this Matrix shit? Also Neji WISHES his air palms were this powerful.
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>>286975851
please understand... he can draw many paper sheets only when the story requires it (to show the Uchiha asspulls)... can't have Naruto showing strategy that's Shikamaru's job
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>>286974232
This moment Kishi thought readers would think that Naruto has a heart of gold, but it's just сuck behavior
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>>286975811
How many replies to the first page of the chapter will there be?
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>>286975893
Maybe its a pureblood thing
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>>286975209
porn and memes
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>>286976050
So Naruto didn't inherited Uzumaki's stamina?
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>>286975228
This looks devastating and she wasn't even using her cursed seal. Are we sure Kishimoto hates women?
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>>286975209
Fujo pandering, bitch.
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>>286976149
That's the power of homophobia.
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>>286976149
The only thing Kishimoto humiliates more than women is Sasuke retrieval arc Naruto
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>>286976149
she needed Shikamaru to put her in place
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>>286973811
Does Choji know his wife beat up the Hokage?
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>>286975664
>Goku second guessed himself.
Yes, because he was objectively wrong. Do you know what would have happened if Cell killed everyone, even if he still managed to bring Gohan's rage out? He would've self-destructed and regenerated. Goku's sacrifice isn't just him sacrificing himself, he's atoning for his mistakes in failue of preparing Gohan to beat Cell and taking the wrong route. In his 2 years of training with Gohan he never connected with his son.
>The only alternatives would have been headcanons of coaching Gohan to get to SS2 during the 10 days prior but that's assuming this is possible at all and the narrative would imply it's not
Other than it being headcanon to assume Gohan could have achieved SSJ2 WITHOUT 16, you're already purposefully missing the point of the narrative.
It wasn't
>wow Goku is a sugoi genius and he knew getting Cell to torture Gohan would work out, stupid Piccolo for not trusting Goku
It was
>Goku failed to understand his son, gets called out for it, panics and tries to fight Cell alongside him, and the day is only saved because another pacifist sacrificed himself to get through to Gohan
Gokufags are retards who believe Goku did nothing wrong and was clearly correct just because things worked out when that's not the case at all. If Goku knew that Gohan wasn't a fightfag like him, he would have tried a different approach. Who knows if that would have worked out or not, but 16 died for Goku's mistakes.
Besides the situation itself being terribly contrived and retarded, and several characters acting OOC, that's what happened. Toei did it much better with the filler they added.
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>>286976002
I think Hidans ability uses a semi-similar property of the Yamanaka
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>>286975975
Because he's a jinchuuriki who has fought the Akatsuki multiple times and defeated them, not to mention their last hope of rescuing Bee. He has already shown in >>286940686 that he knows better than them. Not to mention Karui and Omoi are emotional and impulsive enough to clinge onto any opportunities to save Bee as they have, even if they're kind of in the dark about everything.
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>>286976080
He did. He has infinite chakra and was verbally established as a tank in early part 1.
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>>286976319
they don't know that. it's yet another bit of intel Naruto is deliberately withholding from them, to his own detriment. from their perspective he's just some jackass fucking with them on a lark.
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>>286976149
Only evil bitches and unga-bungas like Sakura and Tsunade are allowed to be strong, you'll never catch Kishimoto drawing Hinata landing that kind of a hit.
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Why isn't Kurama healing Naruto? Why is he letting the black chick pummel him into a mess?
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>>286976378
>i am a jinchuuriki
>they hunt us
>they take us alive
>your teacher must be alive
>forget about sasuke and let's look for him
>i'll tell you all you need to know about the akatsuki
And then the plot goes back to the three of them just talking about Sasuke for no reason.
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>>286976454
it's funny
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>>286976080
Maybe the excess stamina is lower level than red hair
Like the excess stamina is regular sharingan tier and the red hair is mangekyo tier
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>>286976355
Isn't it because of the fox?
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>>286976300
Gohan wouldn't have let Cell self destruct normally. If Cell killed someone, anyone, Gohan would have gone SS2. Just one person. But if Cell had everyone killed Gohan would slaughter him on the spot, he wouldn't bother playing. Too much grief.

>2 years of training
That's 3+1. You never read Dragon Ball.

>didn't connect
He literally did. That's why when everyone is shitting their pants thinking it's the end, Goku is the only one who can see Gohan can do it and motivate him to do so. Even after death. Piccolo was just whining "IT'S OVER GOHAN IS USELESS" btw.
Goku also understood what Gohan was fighting for. And Piccolo was wrong about Gohan's turmoil. Gohan WANTED to bring out that power, but COULD NOT.
>Gohan needed 16 for SS2!!!
As evidenced by Gohan's hair spiking up and Cell going "almost there!", no.

>Toei did it better
Lol. I wasted my time arguing with a barely sapient animal.
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>>286976256
aieee temari help m-meeeeee
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>>286976475
this is what Naruto should have done. but he didn't. instead, he actively made the Leaf look like belligerent incompetent retards and intentionally antagonised envoys from a foreign power that currently had VERY icy relations with Konoha.
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>>286976289
He's probably real proud of her
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why not just use clones like for his daughter's birthday
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>>286976581
But he did this in the previous chapter, and Karui seemed to be going along with him. Until Kishi goes back to them arguing about Sasuke like they hadn't just found common ground.
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>>286976613
the daughter was already with him in his balls.
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>>286976511
iirc in shippuden Kakashi said Naruto's chakra was way bigger than his even without the fox when they were training
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>>286973646
Konan who?Temari? Isn't that some kind of food?

>>286973773
>>286973811
I really hate this. The pathological obsession over Sasuke throughout part 2 has been very bad for the story, but this is a new low. Naruto finally accomplished one of his big dreams and became a hero two chapters ago, and already he is tearing himself down and being humiliated like this? It's not even selflessness, he's asking THEM to break the cycle for him instead of accepting that he has to accept Sasuke facing justice and then move on. If you really liked this manga up to this point it would be such a slap in the face. The black chick is 100% in the right here, and what's sad is she's doing what Kakashi, Jiraya, and Tsunade should have done a long time ago.

>>286973829
Whenever Danzo isn't being a comically evil straw man, he is the only character making sound decisions.
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>>286976669
>Whenever Danzo isn't being a comically evil straw man, he is the only character making sound decisions.
Agreed. The way Kishimoto writes him is really funny.
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>>286976669
>I really hate this [lots of misunderstanding the text]
Maybe start over from the land of waves to get a sense that this is what the entire manga is about and not just a weird subverting of what it's supposed to be.
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>>286976530
>Gohan wouldn't have let Cell self destruct normally. If Cell killed someone, anyone, Gohan would have gone SS2. Just one person. But if Cell had everyone killed Gohan would slaughter him on the spot, he wouldn't bother playing. Too much grief.
Nice headcanon bozo. Instead actually read the manga and you can see what happened. It's a comic for 10 year olds, going "actually things would have worked out anyway if things played out without 16's interference and even better because 16 would have lived!" goes against the entire point of the story you fucking retard. The point is that Goku messed up, and Mr Satan ironically bravely helps save the world by tossing 16's head. It wasn't supposed to be a free ride to the end with an extra travel time of however long it takes to get to Namek because Goku was actually right the whole time, even after the narrative points out he wasn't.
>That's 3+1. You never read Dragon Ball.
You don't even get the POINT of Dragon Ball.
>Goku is the only one who can see Gohan can do it and motivate him to do so.
Yes, post atonement and him still trying to make up for not being there for Gohan. You're so fucking stupid it hurts.
>And Piccolo was wrong about Gohan's turmoil. Gohan WANTED to bring out that power, but COULD NOT.
It doesn't matter if he was wrong about the nitty gritty or not, he was right about Goku being in the wrong, which is what he needed to hear.
>Lol. I wasted my time arguing with a barely sapient animal.
Beyond your inability to understand a poorly written story for 10 year olds, yes, the Z Fighters helping out to attack Cell is better than them just standing around.
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>>286976791
If you wouldn't let her beat you up you're a homo
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>>286976791
>S-sasuke.... please take me with you <3
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>>286973462
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>>286973523
This is the only time Danzo wears the hokage hat, right?
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>>286976791
My wife
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>>286973542
>Sasuke still has the curse mark
UPDATE THE PORTRAITS YOU LAZY FUCK
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>>286974232
Nooo...Naruto.... no..... I will personally kill every black person to avenge you Naruto.
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>>286976791
Skank.
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>>286974288
Imagine the humidity
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>>286973685
MABUI!
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>>286973705
They adapted "C" to shee???
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>>286976805
I'm in the mood for some humor. Tell us what exactly this manga is supposed to be about at this point and how this chapter supports that theme.
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>>286973744
>Reusing the k11 drawings from the gaara flashback
HACKMOTOOOOO!!!
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>>286973861
Based
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>hinata and raikage appear in the same chapter
but... what does it mean...?!
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>this chapter
>naruto KNEELing to raikage
>sakura fake confession
>the hyperventilation incident
What created the most butthurt amongst Naruto selfinserters back when these chapters first came out?
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>>286973811
Deidara tanks this
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>>286973685
>he'll protect her smile
Based
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>>286973811
SLAY KWEEN!
She should have killed BITCHruto.
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>>286976642
and you can see why, in-universe, Karui snaps at him.
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>>286973487
>inexperienced child
>a senile geriatric
>a woman
>a nigga moment
Danzo is the only one competent enough to lead here.
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>>286973725
This is how she got Choji btw
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>>286977118
You don't need to be a "selfinserter" to think that all of this shit is really pathetic.
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>>286973791
>BDSMruto
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>>286976978
I need a humid mist wife
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>>286973829
>>286973851
>>286974252
>>286974265
Arigatou, OP!
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>>286977121
I mean Naruto tanked it too technically.
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>>286976669
If any of the retarded scheming from Danzo had actually worked the village would've seen zero benefit for it.
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>>286974434
That doesn't hold water anymore when Sasuke has tried to kill Naruto twice.
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>>286974139
Alright, I admit. i keked.
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Why is Naruto so boring compared to DB and One Piece and Bleach?
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>>286977272
reminder she's younger than Konan (32 vs 35)
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>>286977027
Something something ninja are tools, something something buying peace with sacrifices.
Read the manga faggot.
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>>286977512
damn, Konan is that old? Isn't Kakashi supposed to only be in his 20's?
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>>286975350
You're saying Karui is Naruto's BVLL?
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>>286977541
you put about as much thought into it as Kishi, can't fault you there
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>>286977604
Am I supposed to write an essay because you lack reading comprehension?
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>>286975501
Funny thing is that it was Omoi who kicked her.
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>>286977541
>Read the manga faggot.
Make me.
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>>286975625
Depth?
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>>286977631
Try two sentences. What the theme is, and how this chapter supports it.

Or just be a seething narutard faggot some more, that's funny too.
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>>286976050
Her hair is pink though.
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>>286977577
Kakashi and the rest of the jonin in his group are about 30-31 in Shippuden.
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>>286974232
Good scene honestly. Shows the logical conclusion of Naruto and Jiraiya's ideology, in the end you'll be footing the bill for everyone's hatred.
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>>286977512
Konan gets called a little girl by Tobi but she's older than him
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>>286976662
But that's still because Kurama has been leaking chakra into his reserves from early age.
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>>286977750
Method acting as Madara
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>>286973725
Does Naruto even know anything about Sasuke's whereabouts? As far as he's aware he's still supposed to be with Orochimaru
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>>286977713
Who's hair is pink and why are you bringing it up
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I'm convinced Hinata would've won Naruto's heart way earlier if she just beat the ever loving shit out of him.
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Tayuya's.
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Cute art from the previous thread. I like how the replies to this >>286944132 post asking whether Hinata would be stronger with a sage mode go from "Well the sage mode in general smplifies user's strength but it's antithetical to Hinata's fight style and i doubt she even knows how to throw a real punch" to "she sucks as a shinobi, stop asking dumb questions" to "lmao she's a woman".
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>>286977834
That's nice
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>>286977792
Konoha learns of Sasuke "killing" Orochimaru and defecting from the Sound (if the Sound even existed in part 2) as soon as Sasuke starts freeing prisoners and telling them to spread the word that Sasuke defeated Orochimaru. They have that short arc where they try to find Sasuke and Naruto gets sexually assaulted by a crow.
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>>286974971
probably chose neutrality during the ninja war or something.
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>>286973725
haha her elbow is pressed up against my throat, I'm so nervous if I swallow she'd feel all of it oh no
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>>286977019
They black, you see
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>>286973811
man this is stupid..
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>>286977700
Naruto and Sasuke are anchors for each other's humanity.
If Naruto who has stepped into the role of village protector (synonymous with hokage, page 1) is capable of sacrificing Sasuke, a precious person to him, to protect peace, then that will just make Naruto a cog in the war machine that sees ninjas as disposable tools and acceptable sacrifices.
Sasuke sacrificed himself for Naruto without weighing that cost. Naruto is weighing the cost of Sasuke against the entire village, which leads him to this moment of supposed 'humiliation' which is more like self-incrimination. He won't start weighing lives because that is not the standard he wants to live up to.
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>>286977805
If she dropped Neji with a cursed mark and then whined about how her daddy issues and the violence inherent in the system made her do it Naruto wouldn't take his tongue out of her coochie for the next five years at least.
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Da day bye yo!
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>>286975501
At the time me and my friends at the time thought she was going to do it, or that she was going to fight her and eventually be her 2nd major fight in the series.
>So, we thought, man we were so gullible
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>>286978162
A bitch fight kishi would never kek.
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>>286978061
This would hold more weight if Bee wasn't assumed to be alive. It's not "weighing one life over another" anymore. One is a criminal holding someone hostage, and you're going to sit back and do nothing and let him murder him and gain control of the 8 tails because he was your friend and fellow villager.
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>>286977118
Is Naruto the shonen protag that was the most humiliated by his author? I never read OP or Bleach but I doubt the same shit happened to Luffy or Ichigo
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>>286978061
>If Naruto who has stepped into the role of village protector (synonymous with hokage, page 1) is capable of sacrificing Sasuke, a precious person to him, to protect peace, then that will just make Naruto a cog in the war machine that sees ninjas as disposable tools
The issue is he never gets confronted with the kind of choice that Kakashi and Hashirama had to make, everything works out by itself.
>Sasuke sacrificed himself for Naruto without weighing that cos
Once, when they were kids. Sasuke in part 2 is an inhuman cunt and i will stand by those words.
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>>286977834
Then going by this cover, Jirobo could be Uzumaki...
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>>286973462
so in terms of great village liveability, it goes stone>cloud>leaf>sand>mist right? my reasoning is thus
>stone generally is on unfriendly terms with most other nations yet also seems the most politically stable. the village is somewhat resource poor but has a definite united culture
cloud is also diplomatically unfriendly and is subject to more volatile political practices but has the resources and power base to fend off most threats
>leaf has resources and many allies great and small but is the least stable politically, with many internal schisms and extant threats directly affecting their acting power and cultural direction
sand his resource poor and fairly harsh on it's citizens, and has a history of poor communication and ruthless and treacherous action
>mist until recently had an atavistic and cutthroat political approach both in- and externally. their fair resources are a paltry balm for a citizenry that can't rely on it's on culture
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Pink is technically considered a tint (a lighter shade) of red, created by mixing red with white. While often treated as a distinct color, it belongs to the red color family, representing a lighter, less saturated version. It can range from pale, white-based tones to deeper magenta-based hues
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>>286978162
sakura would job to the negress kumo kunoichi
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>>286977855
>Rock hard bazooka tits
Imagine
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>>286976540
>>286976852
MORE reaction images have now been added to my collection!
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What is Nagato thinking in the afterlife, seeing the boy he entrusted his world peace mission to getting beaten by some woman mere hours after his death?
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>>286977855
such a neutral post.
>Heres this cute picture about the question that was asked.
>yea its cute and all but in reality, it makes no sense because she is a shallow useless woman.

out of all the girls in naruto wich one of them would be able to learn sage art besides tsunade
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>>286978347
Iwa is a stone hellscape akin to Suna. Kumo is at cloud height to it's safe to assume it has all the environmental downsides of La Paz + this system of isolated towers linked by bridges doesn't seem ideal. Konoha and Kiri are the only villages that look like normal places where people would like to live in.
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>>286978496
>gitwm
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>>286978645
None of them, women cannot reach nirvana according to buddhism.
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>>286978741
Every single tradition believes that women are capable of attaining nirvana. Mahaprajapati
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>>286973811
My HERO would NEVER job to a Kumo ninja... well, at least not for a second time. Oh wait... third time, yup! Not happening!
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>>286978061
> is capable of sacrificing Sasuke
That's not what is happening. There is no question of sacrifice. Sasuke is a missing-nin running around killing people and amassing power. If Obito had not stopped him last chapter, he would be arriving at the village fully intending destroy it right now. Naruto is refusing to allow Sasuke to face justice for the crimes he is committing with zero remorse. What was that about reading the manga, faggot?

> Sasuke sacrificed himself for Naruto
Yeah, when he was a spry ten year old dindunuffin. Too bad he's tried to murder Naruto in cold blood the last three times they've interacted. Funny how the last time Sasuke acted decently towards him was when they didn't know each other.
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>>286978645
didn't Anko have a curse mark ?
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>>286973578
Well, at least this place has some vegetation growing in it, unlike Suna.
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>>286978888
>dense
>surrounded by hills (poor ventilation)
>no trees
>no bodies of water
The small odds of Gaara falling asleep and letting Shukaku out were a hope for Suna citizens.
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>>286978873
The Curse Mark is not the same as Sage Mode even though they both involve tapping into natural energy.
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>>286973725
This reminds me of a sweltering summer night in Detroit some almost 34 years ago…
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>>286978645
none. they're all hylics driven by a lust for sensual pleasure. even Tsunade, whose driving motivations is to reproduce with a man she can't have.
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>>286973811
KWAB
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>>286975738
>all redheads are uzumakis
fuck it. Karui is Naruto's sister or cousin.
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>>286978868
>there is no question of sacrifice
The aggressive cloud ninjas respresent a very real prospect of escalation and Karui's demands could indeed lead to a de-escalation. Peace is what is being promised if Naruto sells Sasuke out. He could compromise Sasuke as currency for peace. How is that not a sacrifice?
>Sasuke is a missing-nin running around killing people and amassing power
Sasuke has not killed anyone but Orochimaru and Itachi since leaving the village. That's why the cloud ninjas claiming Sasuke killed their sensei is so shocking as it is unprecedented from any intel they have.
>If Obito had not stopped him last chapter, he would be arriving at the village fully intending destroy it right now.
Naruto not being omniscient is a mark against the themes he's grappling with?
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>>286978645
I do dislike the recent (or not) trend of answering what if questions with "oh my god who cares, stop thinking of the ways things could be different, this shitty reality is all there could ever be and you best not forget that even when suggesting crazy out there hypotheticals!" Notice how it's almost always Hinata-related, hmm...
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>>286978792
Could he tank the karui?
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>>286979143
he doesn't say all redheads are Uzumaki, but that all (full-blood) Uzumaki have red hair. separate statements.
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>>286978888
This would nightmare mode for an isekai city builder
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>>286978409
Does Hinata have abs? I want to believe she does.
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>>286978061
>Sasuke, a precious person to him,
You mean the object of his deranged homo lust
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>>286977019
That's how the Japanese pronounce it
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>>286973725
>>286973773
She should've tried to twerk on Naruto's dick to get him to talk hahaha...
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>>286973811
Reminder, he chose it.
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>>286974315
ESL
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>>286973725
I thought it was a kabedon at first.
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>>286973791
>>286973811
Eternal reminder that cloud ninja once tried to kidnap both Naruto's mother and future wife.
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>>286978138
She kinda already got pretty close to that when Naruto said she suffered more than Neji, if only Kabuto had kidnapped her and turned into a goon instead of let her unconscious body lying around then we'd be in a different story.
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>>286978162
People used to think Sakura was gonna fight Karin as well.
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>>286980307
Oh yeah, that relationship actually had a solid foundation Kishi could've built on. Shame he got distracted by a squirell or something.
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Nejibros! Hinatasisters!
Now that Kumogakure has been properly introduced and the theme of forgiveness is being pushed, we will obviously see both Neji and Hinata having to come to terms with the incident that killed Hizashi!
We're so back Hyuugachads!
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I always thought this arc was really good until Obito reveals his plan. Like seeing Sasuke slip and legit become demented here and trying to kill the Kage, and all of the Danzou stuff, etc. is very good and a genuinely good follow up to Pain and a way to set up Sasuke as the final boss. But then at the end we get Obito revealing he wants to put a giant eye on the moon, more Uchiha and sharingan wank, and surprise surprise, we have like 50 morr villains suddenly between kabuto obito all the zombies zetsus kaguya etc. oh and then Sasuke
literally if we just skipped the war, did something else with Obito, and then had Sasuke be the final villain who killed multiple Kage and Naruto had to go after him after beating Pain and becoming the champion of Konoha... Coulda been kino... Maybe a small arc dealing with Orochimaru (not Kabuto and his zombies). I hate Obito. Ruins everything. Legitimately ruins the series from this point forward. He was great as Tobi which is doubly infuriating. Even last chapter he was great.
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>>286979251
> selling out Sasuke for peace
Nobody is promising that to Naruto. These two people are after Sasuke because they (and Sasuke) believe that he murdered their teacher. Kakashi explained in the last chapter that Sasuke is a missing-nin, and that ninja do what he did are regularly hunted down, and that he had been enjoying political favoritism up until now, specifically so that retards like you might understand that crimes come with consequences and it doesn’t matter if you failed to kill your targets by accident.

> Sasuke only killed Orochimaru and Itachi
And B’s bodyguard. And Deidra. And who knows how many nobodies with Orochimaru. Oh wait I guess he just didn’t know about the human experiments too, right? Then he’s still attempted to murder Naruto, Yamato, and Sakura. He’s about to attempt to murder them again, plus Kakashi, plus Karin HIS ALLY who has been saving his life on multiple occasions, the Raikage, and of course actually killing the Hokage.

Again he was en route to literally murder the entire village last chapter. Obito didn’t even change his mind. The only reason he turned around is because he thought everyone except Naruto was already dead.
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>>286979251
> Naruto being omniscient
He literally has zero reason to believe anything that he says about Sasuke. It’s not like Sasuke ran off and kept his feelings a secret. The last time they met, he was standing next to the guy who killed the previous hokage, and that guy is the one who stopped Sasuke from killing Naruto and Sakura on the spot.

What makes this especially laughable is the unbelievable selfishness Naruto still has regarding Sasuke even at this point in the story. Notice that he isn’t saying “I won’t let you kill Sasuke and continue the cycle, but I will help you capture him so he can’t hurt anyone else”. He is not making any concessions. He isn’t giving these people an inch. Sasuke is immune from all punishment as far as Naruto is concerned. It’s beyond irrational, it’s story-breakingly bad. Naruto should know that Sasuke will kill these people if they actually fight him, but that thought has not crossed his mind. He doesn’t give a fuck about them. Only Sasuke, and not even because he cares about what Sasuke wants; he only cares about possessing Sasuke and having Sasuke do what he wants Sasuke to do. That’s why it’s such a cheap and nonsensical message when he starts mumbling about “muh cycle of hate”

So try the fuck again and maybe read the words on the pages next time.
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>>286973646
Do you think she would have done literally nothing excepted egg'd Pain on to nuke her village like Tsunade or do you think she would have fought and NOT DONE THAT?
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>>286978496
Yippyyyyyy
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>>286975764
Because they get dangerously close to wanting to fuck each other the more they interact, so it had to be held off and spread throughout the manga's run.
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>>286977792
He knows Sasuke killed Orochimaru but nothing else
He only learned he joined the Akatsuki two chapters ago so the best he could tell them is basic shit like "he can use katon, chidori and the sharingan"
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>>286980639
I'm sure Hinata would have something to say about that uncouth cloud girl beating up Naruto for no reason!
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>>286980774
Insanely erotic
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>>286973725
Notice how Kishi keeps asspulling moments that never happened on-screen to portray muh Team 7 bond. He kept making that shit up ever since the Gaara battle in Part 1.
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>>286980586
NH is unironically a victim of its own early success, there was no way to one up the proud failure speech without having them either become a thing mid-story or have Hinata step into Sakura and Sasuke's toes.
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>>286978333
Does Jirobo also have cuck fantasies about Tayuya?
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>>286973594
that is one fat mf

>>286973646
hottie alert
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>>286980885
>that uncouth cloud girl
This reminds me how little Hinata's upbringing actually matters for her character. Would've been fun to see her showing some spoilt/out-of-touch-noble behavior or scoffing at her more brutish peers internally. Other Konoha 11 members jokingly asking if she's afraid to break a nail or telling her to bring along a fan and umbrella because the mission is sure to be a tough one ya dainty princess, stuff like that.
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>>286980867
The HAPPIEST Uzumaki.
>>286981203
Hinata's upbringing only affects her confidence and stuttering, that's it.
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>>286980867
>Nagato be like "Konan is so lucky..."
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>>286981024
Anime filler is canon
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>>286981345
Kodachi...
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>>286976669
>The pathological obsession over Sasuke throughout part 2 has been very bad for the story, but this is a new low
Kishimoto forgot to give a plausible reason for Naruto to be obsessed with Sasuke without sounding like a desperate gay and asspulling some flashbacks were they just observe each other from afar due to plot convenience. No effort was made to build up their relationship during part 1; they are never shown being proper friends, supporting one another or having a single heart-to-heart moment. They're barely shown being rivals. It's a bond that really isn't there--stated but rarely portrayed or developed.

The worst part is we have to deal with fujotards making shit up while gassing this crap because it has the most focus/screentime.
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>>286981024
Because no one would obsess three years with a boy his age just because sasuke spent 3 months working with him. Kishi knew he fucked up by not drawing enough moments with team 7
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>>286981345
I wasn't even talking or thinking about the anime, which is irrelevant to the point. My point is that Kishi always makes up off-screen shit to portray how important the Team 7 bond is rather than using actual on-page moments, only to get arcs like this one where they are all toxic as hell to each other. The flashbacks during the Gaara battle, for example, are not from the anime either/are completely made up on the spot (I don't even remember if the anime had already started by this point).

>>286981568
Kishi even admitted in an interview that he didn't do as well as he wanted, because it made almost everything thing both of them were "crazy lunatics".
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>>286974252
When the raws for this page first came out people thought the bolts/rivets on his arm were eyes.
Fucking retards.
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>>286981652
What did they think of Danzo's body?
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>>286981203
On the flip side she could've been the autistically serious member of the cast who values the ideas of honor and justice so much that it would cause a rift between her and Naruto because she genuinely can't understand what is there to like about Sasuke or why would anyone want to save him. It would help with >>286981074 as well. Now commence the replies saying that Hinata would never go against Naruto in any way.
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You know what would've been good?
Imagine if someone beat up both Sasuke and Naruto really badly, then the villain just threatens to kill Sasuke in front of Naruto whose completely inpotent to do anything about it, then he keeps pathetically crying and begging for Sasuke to not be killed to no avail until some unrelated plot convenience saves Sasuke.
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>>286981907
Hinata never really followed Naruto's footsteps when it came to forgiveness.
She literally didn't give a single shit when Kiba and Shino killed that squad in the forrest of death.
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>>286981203
>>286981907
Hinata is a subversion of the ojou-sama archetype, her not being snobby or honorable is literally the point.
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>>286982088
Sure would've been nice if Kishimoto explored the morality of her standing by such atrocities to make a point that you can't stay a good person in this field of work and you can't hide behind ignorance either. That could've even contributed to her insecurities and self-hatred and made the whole ninja way thing less simplistic. But who cares about nuance amirite.
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Why is every other village so much weaker than konoha
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>>286982820
The Konoha kids got saved by Suna in the end of Part 1
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>>286973811
Naruto literally asked for it
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>>286982820
The Cloud is easily on par, Sand and Mist were run like shit for several years and Rock was just doing the bare minimum that's why they hired Akatsuki.
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>>286982408
NO. No nuance allowed. Naruto is a saint. Like literally the direct reincarnation of the ninja saint. Nobody wants peace more than Naruto, NOBODY. Especially not the people who lost loved ones in DA WAR. Naruto will succeed because nobody has tried as hard as him to be forgiving.
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>>286978310
Ichigo gets humiliated multiple times but it's more because Kubo keeps creating shitbags with the most OP powers just to fuck with him than Naruto being gay.
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>>286973725
what the fuck even happened lmfao they were speaking almost cordially last we saw them. Kumo moment.
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>>286973502
This one isn't so bad but I'm still counting it under the trend of the volume blurbs turning into a little window into how much life fucking sucks when you're trying to put out a chapter a week for years of your life at a time.
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>>286973811
Respect to Sai for being there to kill them if it goes to far, but jesus christ what was Kishi thinking here. It also just makes Naruto look autistic, trying to apply this rhetoric into situations where it really doesn't apply (it's not just about revenge: Sasuke killed their village's last jinchuuriki as far as they know and he's still at large)
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>>286982163
Hinata is a subversion of women being able to exist for any other reason than a man.
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>>286975848
>who was around to report that Hidan and Kakuzu killed her?
It is implied in the databook and to an extend in the manga, that she fought them alone to save her team. Kakuzu and Hidan were not very subtle (blowing up temples along the way) and moving extremely slowly. During the time it took them to go from the temple to the bounty booth, a monk from the temple ran to konoha, konoha decided to send 20 teams looking for them (despite this incident being significantly smaller than having their jinchuriki captured), a team made it to the temple and said team moved from the temple to the bounty booth as well.
They had tons of time and lots of hints as to what happened.
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>>286983313
Kishimoto clearly forgot about that after part 1.
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>>286983313
As in it subverts the idea, by making Hinata have no character other than loving Naruto?
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invent a personality for hinata
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>>286983522
Yes. That's what subversion means.
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>>286973462
There he is, the only useful Kage
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>>286983723
World-class freak
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Raikage won.
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>>286984171
Well, most of the time an idea is subverted by showing its consequences, i.e. in this case for example having a female character that is not motivated purely by a man and giving her a terrible fate.
Just making a character that's opposed to the idea isn't really much of a subversion.
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>>286978162
Imagine the reactions if she fought Karui but jobbed
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>>286973685
Mabui sex!
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>>286980176
>>286980227
yeah but he was a pale ninja, pale as the clouds you could say
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>>286975209
back then the gears of our economy weren't spun by race monkeys and mascuilinity merchants
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>>286973811
she tried this on chouji when they first dated and he just pinned her down and pressed a mating into her. and his weird genki chalupa child was born
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Looks like CSM brought some traffic to this shitty daily.
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>>286978276
He did it for the worst fight in the chunin exams.
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>>286985299
Why though? It always appeared that CSMfags saw themselves "above" a series like Naruto.
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>>286985572
>manga ends
>unsatisfied
>see what else there is to discuss on the board
>go with the familiarity of Naruto
Most of this board has watched/read Naruto. It's not surprising they'd migrate here after discussing the end of CSM.
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>>286985299
>>286985572
No, it didn't. You're just flooding the thread again.
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Dude is bringing up a completely unrelated manga to try to bring the illusion of organic activity in the thread.
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>>286985598
I'm not buying it jamsuke.
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>>286985617
>>286985659
>>286985662
This is really all you have going for you, huh?
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>>286985708
So now everyone is the same person?
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>>286984373
The consequence is that we get a shit character. HighIQshimoto subverted your expectations of what character trope subversion should be like.
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Sad
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>>286973773
>>286980732
The implication that the "cycle of hatred" would continue if they kill sasuke is funny to me. Because at this point only nacho and sakura really care enough about sauce to enact "vengeance" against anyone who killed him in their sick, twisted way. So really what he's thinking is "if sauce dies I'll massacre the cloud village and that will continue the cycle". All because of his faggot feelings for a guy he barely knows.
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>>286986754
They ended the cycle of hatred... but wars still going on after Naruto become Hokage and changes absolutely nothing... lmao
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>>286975929
lmao
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>>286973811
usual suspects
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>>286973986
>>286974004
so this is the based village that birthed DEIDARA... the coolest character in the series
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>>286973646
Reminder that Chojuro blitzed Black Zetsu. Chojuro > Minato > Madara.
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>>286978061
Except he literally decides to kill Sasuke to protect the village.
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>>286983313
>>286983522
>>286986048
You have no reading comprehension. She's didn't need Naruto to exist, she's devoted to him because he changed her life.
>no character other than loving Naruto
That's bs.
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>>286988019
he literally said if he can't "fix Sasuke" then he'd better die ... how is that protecting the village bro?
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>>286983723
Hardworking, honest, awkward, kind?
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>>286983723
Come on now, pinkshit. All of Naruto characters are bland.
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Narutards still can't accept that all characters have personality of a cardboard? And Naruto is just a copy of Goku?
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>>286988321
"Our battle will be inevitable if you really do attack the Leaf."
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Sasunaru? But that's gay.
Kibanaru is better!
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>>286980176
>>286985212
Wasn't that the Water ninja explaining how they got a Sharingan?
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>>286988519
he says "we'll die together if you attack" not "I will protect the village because the village is more important"... "I'll bear the burden of your hatred" it's never about the leaf village but about his crush on Uchiha Sausage
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>and hit me with it full force
>we'll die together
So nARUTO was aware of how Sasuke is stronger than him
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>>286988609
So you're saying Naruto was just using Sasuke attacking the village as a flimsy excuse to kill him? That's even worse dude.
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Sasunaru....doomed yaoi.....
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>>286988695
Naruto thinks Sasuke can't be a criminal murderer traitor, and attacking the village means he can't bring him back to the village, so then the only thing remaining is both of them die, because Naruto's life is meaningless without the Uchiha Sausage, get it?
>If I can't have you, no one else can and I can't imagine a life without you
this is why it's gay as fuck and women love this shit
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>>286988762
>and attacking the village means he can't bring him back to the village
>because Naruto's life is meaningless without the Uchiha Sausage, get it?
If it's about bringing him back to the village, why does he not give a shit 250 chapters later when Sasuke leaves again? Sasuke leaves for like 12 years before Boruto, that's longer than all of Naruto combined.
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>>286988856
Because he's not being a criminal or in danger then.
There's high chance he'd come back to the leaf on his own unlike now.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6NEXNPZHt8&list=RD_6NEXNPZHt8&start_radio=1
Byyyyy myyyyyy siiiiiiiiiide....................
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>>286973462
Game of thrones better.....
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>>286988856
because he accepted defeat and became Naruto's bitch working for the village, and they need to keep the illusion of being straight
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>>286988881
>in danger
You're not making any sense. Trying to kill him is putting him in more danger than not.

The only part of what you're saying that makes even a little sense is that Naruto's trying to control him. But even then Sasuke comes back for a day to say he's going on a mission and Naruto offers to come with him, and Sasuke says "No" and Naruto just goes "Oh".

>>286988995
He's not really working for the village when he's wandering after 700. He just fucks off to travel for years before he stumbles across something related to Kaguya, and then he's like "I'll go check it out".
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>>286989049
bro if the village was more important then how can Naruto still care about the dude who left, joined Hokage's murderer, and then joins the organization that just attacked and killed everyone in the village?
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>>286989143
Didn't say he didn't care about him, just said he cared about the village more. Just like he cares about Nagato when Nagato killed Jiraiya, and calls Obito the "coolest guy" or "awesome" when Obito killed his parents, and cares about Gaara when Gaara tried to kill Team 7, etc.
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>>286989178
he cares about those people only because he projects his Sausage boner into them, unironically the only reason. You can see his internal thoughts in both of those moments
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>>286989209
You're very adamant about it being homosexuality. Even if it was, it's obviously not reciprocated.
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>>286989049
>Trying to kill him is putting him in more danger than not.
Sasuke is actively giving reasons for people to want to kill him in part 2, in Boruto he's just the leaf's janny, that's the difference.
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>>286989294
reciprocated or not, >>286988019 this was proven wrong and you're still denying it.
If Naruto sides with the guy who left the village, joined the guy who killed the Hokage and later joined Akatsuki and he doesn't give two fucks about how his actions are impacting the village, he cares more about SauceGay than the Village, irrefutable.
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>>286989209
You're also sort of making my point. Naruto cares about Jiraiya more than Nagato, his parents more than Obito, and Team 7 more than Gaara.

>>286989431
>Sasuke is actively giving reasons for people to want to kill him in part 2
In what way is Naruto actively trying to kill Sasuke putting Sasuke in less danger than if he wasn't? Sasuke's not doing jack shit for the Leaf for years, that only changes when he finds Ootsutsuki ruins and Naruto had no idea that was going to happen.
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>>286989657
It was not proven wrong. Naruto explicitly says that him fighting Sasuke to the death is contingent on Sasuke attacking the village.

If Sasuke attacks the village, then Naruto will fight him to the death. That is not siding with the guy.
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>>286989755
but he doesn't say that.
you're twisting his words, why does he have to also die with Sasuke to bear the burden of his hatred and all this cringe stuff? if he cared about the village than he would say "I will kill you, with my comrades by my side" and that's it, it's not like the village stops needing Naruto the day he kills Sasuke, right? but he's willing to sacrifice everything for Sasuke, the village, comrades, etc.
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>>286989919
>why does he have to also die with Sasuke to bear the burden of his hatred and all this cringe stuff? if he cared about the village than he would say "I will kill you, with my comrades by my side" and that's it, it's not like the village stops needing Naruto the day he kills Sasuke, right?

Are you literally saying Naruto cares more about Sasuke than the village because he chooses to fight him one-on-one rather than gang up on him with other shinobi? Naruto repeatedly emphasizes how much he wants to prove himself against Sasuke, he even says he wants to fight him again after he finally "comes back" to the village.

He explicitly fights him one-on-one for nothing more than proving himself back right after Sasuke wakes up from a coma, and he's the first to use a deadly attack against him. There is quite literally nothing at stake on the hospital roof other than their pride, and Naruto still goes for the kill because he has to prove he is equal.

>but he's willing to sacrifice everything for Sasuke, the village, comrades, etc.
How is he sacrificing the village? How is he sacrificing comrades (other than trying to kill Sasuke)?

Sacrificing the village and comrades would be going "I will join you. I will stand by your side and help you get revenge, even if it means going through people I care about to get to the monsters who ruined your life."
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>>286990190
thread will 404 but you're wrong and I know it



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