Volume 50Water Prison Death MatchChapter 469: The Confession!!Start: https://desuarchive.org/a/thread/274143504Previous thread:>>287320414
>>287341730welp chapters over
>>287341730Did Sakura know she was indirectly cucking Hinata here?
>>287341730This sounds like something better said in private.
B&W
>>287341730>>287341746>Sakura talking about Sasuke here is the most rational she's ever been>and it's when she pretending to be someone she's the complete opposite ofLmaokek
>>287341790Kiba is about to die from cringe
>>287341665so they can use these type of shit magic bullshit but Orochimaru manages to stay hidden for 3 years after killing 2 Kages and maybe cutting open of the only remaining Uchiha prodigy. Nice manga
>>287341778>SASUKE!! >SASUKE! >SASUKE!! >OHHHH!!! What is this trying to signify?
>>287341790........why is Lee blushing?
>>287341858but everyone "evil" in this manga brings up good points until the plot sides with the retard and the person who is right has to be convinced by the retard and his ninja way that he was wrong actually
>>287341926He's a cuck
>>287341730>>287341746This manga is going off a cliff>>287341790>Kakashi and Yamato clearly disgusted
>>287341643Lmao, wtf is Danzo going to do with a Byakugan? Also, he really doesn't seem to realize how hard he fucked up at this summit. After that stunt he pulled with the samurai guy, and after attacking that guy from another nation following him, the other kage might just decide to declare him a criminal. He probably couldn't even return to Konoha at this rate.
>>287341746She says, knowing that her dumbass gonna marry him after he tries to kill her twice. Fucking pervert
>>287341826>I hate people who lie to themselves, I ignore people that confess their true feelings and save me, but first and foremost I RAAABU SASUKE.
>>287341722I really feel like Kishimoto decided to bring Lee along just to humiliate him further in this scene.
>>287341730She really wasted everyone’s time with this horseshit she is trying to pull.
Done!
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>>287341762>Kakashi: “hold on Yamato I ship this, let em cook”
>>287342009Danzo wants to retrieve it because he doesn't want foreign powers to have it.>the other kage might just decide to declare him a criminalThey don't have jurisdiction in Konoha.>>287341897I don't see what this has to do with anything. In fact, I'm pretty sure Danzo was fine with Oro doing whatever outside of the village (which is also stupid but that's another subject)
>>287341790>Kiba looking livid
God damn this whole part is so fucking retarded.
>>287341790>>287341778>>287341762>>287341746>>287341730Piece of shit i hope she gets what she deserves.
>>287341654>>287341665Love this ability.>>287341704Very forced dialogue.>You better cooperate!!Like, would he not cooperate here? What does he have to lose by telling people about Madara's ability? (notice: he never does).All this to force this "ooooh they made up" moment.>>287341762Based Yamato was about to fuck her up
>>287341826Big three my ass. Never compare this dogshit manga to Bleach or One Piece ever again.
>>287341730THERE IT IS!
>>287341790Yamato is the best character in this piece of shit manga.>>287342153I agree with the idea but this page was actually good. Fuck Sakura
>>287342066>They don't have jurisdiction in Konoha.Danzo was supposed to be his village's representative, though. I don't think the higher ups from Konoha would be happy with what he did.
This was an opportunity to give Sakura some growth but instead she goes beyond full retard.She's lucky that Naruto gets his panic attack right after, making her not the most pathetic character here.
>>287342157Damn, Raikage has gone bald with the years. But that's a nice new dojutsu isn't it
>>287341632since when did Ao have fruity talisman earrings
>>287342046Cheers
>>287342180God no wonder Sasuke went rogue if this was the kind of shit would've had to deal with in Konoha
>>287341762>>287342125Yamato acting up is so retarded, he barely knows either of them.Why is Kakashi even trying to stop him? Is he enjoying the show?
>>287341762>>287342060>>287342125I really hate this part of the plot. why are Yamato and Sai so much in the story and acting like they are so important for this moment? they know nothing about Naruto and Sakura lmao
>>287341826I know Naruto is a nice gay[\spoiler] boy, but I wished he go in harder on her attempts to use his feelings for her as a way to stop him from potentially fightin/killing Sasuke. But this is good enough.
>>287342233I think even Kakashi knows how retarded this is and is just gonna let Naruto shut it the fuck down.
>>287342009>Lmao, wtf is Danzo going to do with a ByakuganHe'd make the Sharinbyakugan and achieve far greater power
Yup, this is going to be THE flood thread. HE is going to use all his resources to make sure this thread is the most hyper-active on /a/.
>>287342180Then what could have been a better correct approach.
>>287342238I think Yamato is just confused and sai wants to be considered part of the team but he’s too rational for these idiots
Hiashi won.
>>287341762I like the subtle implication that Naruto might have believed her if she hadn't let slip it was about the promise he madeoin part 1.
>>287342238Hey man Sai is trying to make friends be nice
>>287342238Sai makes sense tbqh, since he's a mostly "neutral" observer as he has no prior connection to Sasuke unlike all the other characters.He's also the one who has actually told them their obsession is unhealthy.
>>287341730Such an amazing direction for this story and these characters to go towards.
>>287341730>>287342056>yipppeeee!!! I am SUCH a happy cuck!!
>>287342313>alien looking unsocialized retard>is actually the most logical and reasonable characterwhat did Kishi mean by this
>>287342068>you dragged me out here for this clown show?
>>287341695>>287341704What's with the random bold setting change for Onoki's dialogue
>>287342273Have her pull Naruto to the side and have a serious talk about Sasuke going off the rails and that there's no need to chase him anymore.You can then just have Naruto ignore this and continue the story as usual, but at least Sakura gets to appear rational, giving her a chance to grow a bit, rather than this dumb shit.
>jamweeds
>>287342273Actually Sakura's confession could have strengthened Naru/Hina if done right, and if they got together after Pain.Imagine if Sakura was actually serious and it was a 'I do still have feelings for Sasuke, but im falling in love with you too Naruto' type of thing.And this time around Naruto says something to the effect of 'a month ago I would have loved to hear that, but sorry I think Im falling in love with Hinata so I decline' And then Naruto pledges to get Sasuke back because he loves him as a brother, and that he knows Sakura still loves her first crush the most.That scene while Naruto was still fighting Pain and Sakura was healing unconscious Hinata should have been the turning point and catalyst where Sakura realizes her feelings for Naruto are growing and Hinata is now one of her love rivals.Sakura and Hinata could have been like Sarada and Sumire from the new generation series.Where they are good friends, but still love rivals that admit they like the main character.
>>287341833The fact there are so many people around them when Sakura says this makes this scene 10 times funnier.
>>287342313he didn't have a good reason to tell Sakura all the stuff about her being a curse on Naruto. His reason was literally "I read this in a book, I see Naruto happy, he therefore likes Sakura, but he can't tell her because the promise" and then he goes "Oh so Sakura is the reason he wants this guy so much back in the village, I better tell her she's the antichrist" like wtf man
>>287342363Subtly intimidating the non-Stone untermentsch
>>287342374Kishi really shat the bed with Sakura. From having her, along with Chiyo, take down a member of the Akatsuki to doing absolutely nothing for the remaining 400 chapters of the manga. She was apparently Tsunade's successor, then Kishi forgot to make Tsunade relevant, making Sakura irrelevant.
>>287341730>>287341746>>287341762Maybe if she wanted to make this more believable you know she could have you know took him to a private room idk maybe give him a blowjob or sit on his face.>That might work.
>>287342412it's also a subtle Sasori downscale who went from one of the coolest Akatsuki to the guy who jobbed to Sakura and didn't even come back in the zombie warAlong with Kisame and Konan for some reasom
And you thought Sakura getting her shit pushed in by those 2 kumo niggers was embarrassing.
>>287342412if you can't see that kishimoto is a sexist you're blind lmao. he just sees women as a different type of species
>>287341722Kakashi is seeing through the bullshit so clearly he might as well have both mangekyo
>>287342393he's right though. Part 1 Naruto really isn't that close to Sasuke and was more angry over how hurt Sakura was with his leaving. He didn't go full commitment until Sakura cried and begged him to do it, so he swore on his life (in front of his entire peer group) that he would bring Sasuke back for her. this whole "my friend the promise meant nothing" is pure revisionism that didn't even exist until this arc. as recently as Tenchi Bridge it's still treated as if Naruto's primary motivation is Sakura.
>>287342472I mean he's not entirely wrong, but that doesn't make his female characters any less insufferable.
>>287342459>and didn't even come back in the zombie warSasori does come back as an Edo, unfortunately he does literally nothing and humiliatingly jobs to Kankuro of all people
>>287341826P A T R O L L E D
>>287342472I don't think he's sexist, because he puts so many women in positions of prominence. For fucks sake, the end game final boss villain is a woman. I think he's just retarded. Also I think he just leaned too heavily into the fujo crowd. Coomers just care that they're hot, and fujos don't care about them at all so all the women in Naruto do just enough to appease both sides without actually doing anything.
>>287342459I thought Sasori did come back? At least he did in the anime. He was one of the very first to go back to the afterlife after having a heart to heart with Kankuro
>>287342393Sai literally had no friends before these guys and is just bluntly telling his outside idea which has some merit. Sakura thinks it’s her fault anyway because she went out her way to go find Naruto and lie to him to stop him from fighting Sasuke. She already was thinking this but sai just told her what she was already thinking. Sai wasn’t blaming her, just telling her his thoughts. Truth is, Naruto was gonna go get Sasuke because he’s gay for him anyway.
I sure hope Sasuke doesn't find out his woman has been trying to cheat on him..
Never trust a shonen manga without female fanservice, never I say. Girls should be pretty and kick ass while being naked or almost naked and preferably while getting ryona'd. Simple as.
>>287341722yabba dabbarooo
>>287342412>>287342459Sasori let them win btw
>>287342393He's trying to help and it's not his fault that Sakura is retarded
>>287342526>>287342541I checked and he does kek, he does so little I completely forgot he was there, which is also funny because his Edo skin was what I used in Storm 4Kankuro having his puppet confused me, I guess Kabuto made him a replacement
>>287342590>Girls should be pretty and kick ass while being naked or almost naked and preferably while getting ryona'dThis man knows.
>>287342534>because he puts so many women in positions of prominence.Tsunade has a Tsukuyomi dream where her boyfriend is the Hokage not herMei's thing is that she's single and wants a boyfriend>For fucks sake, the end game final boss villain is a womanI mean, how is that not proving that he's a sexist when Kaguya is zombie female with no personality and her backstory is that she was in love and someone betrayed her and she went insane kek
>>287342656Bleach did it right.
>>287341730Naruyo is so lucky
>>287341790>Nobody is buying this shit except LeeWhy did Kishi make him so dirty?
>>287342534and also I'm not saying that only based on Naruto because I've read his other works and they're ALL like this. he's very autistic about this. In samurai 8 women don't fight at all but they stay in the background and pray at a flower to power up their samurai husband
>>287341730What a bitch
>>287342374>>287342412Like i said yesterday she is pretty looking but her character is absolute shit.
>>287342715Yknow anon, he could just not know how to write women in a magazine aimed at boys. He could just be a shit writer!
>>287342385>and if they got together after Pain.Again, this could not happen between keeping the pairings a secret until the very end and Kishi not feeling conformable writing romance. The point of this scene was to kill NarSak and make Naruto look like he's grown up (at the cost of Sakura's dignity).>and Hinata is now one of her love rivals.>still love rivals that admit they like the main character.Sakura doesn't like Naruto that way and supports NH in canon, are you dumb?>>287342393>I see Naruto happyAnd he actually isn't most of the time, lul. Why is Sakura listening to advice from Sai in the first place? He has not been around enough to know anything about the Team 7 dynamics and Sakura acknowledges he sucks at reading emotions like two arcs prior to this.
>>287341730narusaku... is canon!?
>>287342775this is not really an argument when all he has to do is to draw a girl and give her any trait that isn't about a male character, but he never does it. If there is a female character there has to be a male that stays at her personality core and everything is about that male
>>287342766She's meh. She's got only a pretty color scheme but it's wasted on her.
>>287341762'nata looks so teensy tiny here
>>287342715>women don't fight at all but they stay in the background and prayHave you ever heard of history? That's been the case throughout most of humanity.
>>287342697... for having Hinata.
>>287342534>I don't think he's sexistStupidest poster on /a/
>>287342878I can't understand why OPrink keeps harping on about this woman point. Is he just fishing for replies or does he have a terminal case of AGP
>>287342841Yeah so he’s shit at writing women
>>287342295Yes Anon, that's precisely why he calls it off as a joke just a page earlier >>287341746.
>it's gonna be another entertaining thread full of delicious shipnigger melties and shitflinging that will last all the way until thread gets archivedsometimes this daily is alright
>>287342793>Why is Sakura listening to advice from Sai in the first place?>>287342633It literally feels like Sai manipulated her, how is he trying to help when the first thing he told her is what Naruto told him not to say and followed by yeah he went to speak with the Raikage about Sasuke haha when she's clearly worried about Naruto
>>287341806feetkura closeup
>>287342534He's a fag and hates women or his editor wanted to cash on fujobucks.Digimon is doing exactly that with BeatBreak. I'm glad is not working like it did for this crap.
>>287341704>>287341722>>287341790The whole "other characters smile on in agreement after some good thing happens" and "other characters frown on in disapproval as some bad thing happens" is so forced and cringe. It's MCU tier slop.>>287341746>Naruto acting like the victim when he literally tied Sasuke up and impersonated him to sexually assault Sakura.
Brothers it's painful to even read the second half of this chapterWhat was Kishi thinking
>>287342590yes but there needs to be cute girls who win because otherwise my femdom and domination loss (via fucking the supposed dom woman too well of course) fetishes can't be satisfied
>>287342793>>287342590>>287342658When will they retcon boruto and make another sequel with a writer that has a set of balls.
>>287342878and the talking animal cyborgs too
>>287341614>The Confessionkisame has a crush?
>>287341622Why is there a random giant racoon in a snowy habitat this worldbuilding is terrible
>>287341826She doesn't deserve the hate, she made a mild misstep here out of feeling that she had to do something because Sai was autistic to her which triggered her own autism
>>287342970I mean, yes, that's my point. But Sai didn't really gaslight Sakura into anything nor ever told her to lie to Naruto. She already believed that Naruto was doing it for her, all Sai did was bring her guilt to the surface. That’s why she was so quick to believe him, because she's a self-centered dumbass who already thought the promise was the reason (just like this Anon >>287342492 falling for a red herring).>>287343031Naruto wasn't trying to kiss her; Sakura (thinking he was Sasuke) was the one coming onto him to kiss him. Naruto was scheming to make Sasuke look like a jerk; there is no way he was going to kiss Sakura while still disguised as him. The fact that Naruto rushed into the bathroom and bitches about how she called him annoying shows he wasn't even thinking about kissing her. Sakura stans have zero reading comprehension.
>>287343044cheap shock value, nothing comes out of it but his male rage on the girls who called him weird in highschool lmao
>>287341746Now hold the fuck up, i distinctly remember Lee facepalming to this bullshit, was he edited out?Was the cringe too much for the Spirit of Konoha's Youth?
>>287341632cum zetsu
>>287343031Did Sakura's crush growing into an obsession stem from with fake interaction?
>>287341704>>287341722actually disgusting pages
>casually solos your verse
>>287341762She is so bad at lying. Even a dweeb like Naruto caught on immediately
>the village sped or the village terroristSometimes all you can do is pity Sakura
>>287341614This chapter always gave me second hand embarrassment
>>287341730I threw a bit irl.
>>287342534
>>287341730I remember having to pause the episode and pace around the room out of sheer cringe when the anime got to this part
>>287341818>>287341826A shonen protag who isn't actually stupid??
>>287343099>She already believed that Naruto was doing it for herthis is your headcanon, she literally never brings up the promise, all we saw is that she felt relieved a bit but with a confused expression when they were talking with Tazuna and Inari and he said they will bring Sasuke back, at the end of part 1 Sakura tells him they have to bring him together and goes to train with Tsunade. This subject with the promise only comes up now
>>287342534He's 100% a misogynist look at what he said about Sakura.>That chick is detestable for using Naruto’s goodwill, but, well, that’s just how I’d think to write a realistic girl.Plus like the first response said, Kaguya is the only villain who's a shit fighter, voiceless, has to be told what to do the whole fight, and Naruto doesn't sympathize with.Kishimoto blames Kaguya (through Black Zetsu) for every bad thing that's ever happened in shinobi history, and then has Naruto call her heartless.He even portrays Danzo and Orochimaru in a sympathetic and/or comedic light (and Naruto lets Orochimaru do whatever he wants) but Kaguya alone is irredeemably evil.>>287341778>>287343031HOLY SHIT IT LITERALLY FLASHBACKS TO THE TIME HE DID IT TOO.
>>287341806even if she was being honest, the whole thing is all about sauce.>he's being an asshole who runs away, but YOU stayedjesus christ...
>>287342590This series has subtle fanservice
>>287343213>You are not the step boyfriend, you are the boyfriend who stepped up
>>287343226
>>287341730>>287341746>>287341762>>287341790>>287341806>>287341818>>287341826this fucking bitch............
>>287341826>Check Naruto/Sakura page on shipping wiki>Status: semi-canonWhat the fuck is "semi-canon"? They both ended up with different people
>>287343065Imagine those Hanabi nudes. Now that would be based.
>>287343188Makes you wonder how the animators and VAs felt
>>287343226>>287343247This is basically what an asexual alien would draw if they were tasked to do what they think human is appealing even though they don't really understand itThere's no fanservice more gay than Kishimoto's, even his women
>>287341730>>287341826Genuine question: What could Sakura have said to convince Naruto that she was indeed over Sasuke and ready to jump his bones?
>>287343313they kissed
>>287343359>saidNothing. Words are meaningless here because of all the flashback panels here to hammer the point Naruto knows she's lying.
>>287343226Subtle fanservice is not real fanservice. It only serves as appetizer until the explicit fanservice comes.>>287343247Those are men.
>>287343388>all the flashback panels here to hammer the point Naruto knows she's lying.>Sakura, but 4 years ago you said you love Sasuke wha happen????
>>287343359Nothing.
>>287343342I think the character designs are often pretty enough that's its fanservice without having to do anything extra
>>287341959I never liked how Kishimoto makes the women treat the forehead protector as some kind of fashion accessory (Sakura, Hinata, Temari) if they even bother to wear one at all (Tsunade, Konan)... seriously, would it have killed anyone to have one "normal" female shinobi
>>287342534>women in positions of prominenceTsunade and Mei are worthless in the war compared to Onoki and A. They're all varying levels of jobber, but the male kages clearly got better fights and hype moments.
>>287343431He has a few hot designs but these happened by coincidence more than anything else
>>287343198>she literally never brings up the promiseShe did when Naruto went four tails on his own volition against Orochimaru and started reminiscing about his promise, and brought it up now while confessing, thinking it's the reason Naruto keeps pursuing Sasuke and using it to manipulate him. The promise's sole relevance was as a stimulus for Sakura to train under Tsunade to keep up with her teammates.It’s implied that the promise was "for Sakura's sake, but also for his own". During the failfession, Naruto clearly prefaces his response to Sakura with:>"This isn't about the promise."And says, >"I want to save Sasuke on my own accord."This is important. The foundation is, as always, Sasuke.>>287343359>What could Sakura have said to convince Naruto that she was indeed over Sasuke and ready to jump his bones?In canon? Nothing. Chapter 3 already established the reason why Naruto liked Sakura: because she wanted Sasuke's acknowledgment (this panel is brought up here again >>287341778). The moment she says she's over Sasuke, it blows up in her face and goes against why Naruto wanted her in the first place. This was the dead end for NarSak.
>>287343359She should have made it more natural and in private. First she tells him to forget his promise to proceed to try to win him over more organically. Letting him know that she's into him.I've heard from some normalfags that when a woman is way too direct, they suspect that something is not right.
>>287343431That's not how fanservice works, mate. Not for men at least.
>>287343431There's something for the boys and girls
>>287341704>>287341695wasn't madara 100 years ago?
>>287343359She could have been honest and just told him that she is sorry that she requested such an impossible task, not that naruto would give up anyway. Instead she chose to be a massive cunt
>>287343512Actual fanservice in this series is mostly done by anime fillers and extras
>>287343485>The moment she says she's over Sasuke, it blows up in her face and goes against why Naruto wanted her in the first placeNaruto is talking about her lying about not wanting to bring Sasuke back, not about her love for him. This is what Naruto has a trouble with. He looks very happy before she starts talking about Sasuke after she says "I love you"
>>287343099All Naruto did was harass her and act like he hated Sasuke in Part 1, of course she believes he did it for her.>Naruto wasn't trying to kiss her>Naruto was scheming to make Sasuke look like a jerk; there is no way he was going to kiss Sakura while still disguised as him.Wrong. Naruto impersonated Sasuke to make a pass at Sakura and ask her what she thought about him. He puckered up when she tried to kiss him and only ran off because he got explosive diarrhea from the rancid milk he drank. While he was on the toilet he got angry that he made Sasuke look "cool" so he changed his objective to making her think Sasuke was a jerk.>>287343127Probably. Sasuke and Sakura never found out the truth because Sasuke didn't listen to her when he was looking for Naruto (single-minded) and Naruto never confessed. If Sasuke found out Naruto tried to use deception to prey on her then he would have a much lower opinion of Naruto, especially after the implications regarding Orochimaru. If Sakura found out Sasuke never flirted with her and tried to kiss her, she would probably be way less fixated on him (from her perspective it was both "hot and cold" not just cold).
>>287341722>>287341730I completely forgot Sakura had an audience when she tried to pull this stunt. Fuck that's humiliating for Naruto.
I like how there is barely any fanservice, especially compared to Bleach and One Piece.
she literally did it because she cares about Naruto
>>287343560>He looks very happy before she starts talking about Sasuke after she says "I love you"He looks in disbelief and then frowns once he suspects something is up, the fuck are you on about
>>287343395When Naruto transformed himself into a big shuriken when they fought Zabuza would you call Naruto a boy or a shuriken? Yeah that's what I thought.
>>287343614of course after a couple of seconds he realizes it's weird to say that right now and in the way she did
>>287343359In all seriousness if they really wanted to make sakura like naruto.The techi bridge arc would have been the perfect moment for her to developing feelings for naruto and his ordeal.
>>287343608well kishimoto isn't really that great at drawing female bodies anyway.
>>287343359She could have brought Hinata instead of Lee
>>287343560True, you cannot simply forget this type of thing
>>287343359The whole problem with this is that she's completely writting off her feelings for Sasuke completely, when both her and naruto see him as a dear comrade. She thinks Naruto is only keeping his promise out of love for her and not because he sees Sasuke as a brother. Her whole approach was doomed from the start. She would have been better off asking him why he wants to keep his promise to her in the first place, than to completely forget about it.
>>287341614Your posting hours are getting ridiculous replacement. Looks like I really am going to gave to take back the mantle.
>>287341614ARIGATO, OUR LEADER!
>>287341632>Danzo is such a POS people can tell his schemes apartCan this man get more comically evil.
>>287343560>Naruto is talking about her lying about not wanting to bring Sasuke back, not about her love for him. This is what Naruto has a trouble with.He literally flashbangs five panels about how much she loves Sasuke and then calls her a dishonest bitch. Also, pay attention to how much focus she puts on wanting him NOW that he's acknowledged as a hero and how Sasuke has fallen to his lowest. This is vital given Naruto's desire for acknowledgment is a mayor point of his character and his later clash with Dark Naruto.>>287343669Again, he calls it a joke here >>287341746. That's what the prospect of NarSak means to Naruto; it's treated as a joke.>>287343804Notice how he's reacting to Sasuke. That panel is meant to show him implying peace and understanding towards it, which Tsunade takes note of.
>>287343816B A S E D OASEDO
>>287343816ARIGATO, OUR TRUE LEADER!
>>287341730AIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>287343816>going to gave to take back the mantleYou better learn English first, idiot.
I'm well aware that this is one of the most hated moments in Naruto, but I still find it funny that if you took these threads at their word that Naruto would be a 0/10 series with literally nothing good to say about it ever. It's impossible to take some of you seriously.
>>287342590>>287343057Kishi could do pretty well on the ryona and domination loss front when he wanted.
>>287343065>not having Blank Period hairstylegay
>>287344053>I'm well aware that this is one of the most hated moments in NarutoIt's actually a great and hilarious moment for the anti-NS people.
>>287341826>"Women are just as fickle as autumn weather"I have never heard of this.Also, lmao and there are people who will genuinely argue Kishi isn't a chud.
>>287344048Retard
>>287341826>>287342040>>287342046Arigatou, OP!
>>287342192iirc his nails are painted too
>>287343637Yes, I would have called him a man.
>>287342233Did Kishi forget Yamato kinda shipped them?It's so awkward to see him this upset here, does he find Sakura lying that egregious?Man, he would NOT handle the average novela.
Can we appreciate tsunades love for naruto this woman sees her younger brother , her desd lover and all of her hopes and dreams inside of him.
>>287344095He barely did anything with Sakura vs Ino and Hinata vs Pain, that's pretty underwhelming
>>287341818>>287341826narusakusisters...
>>287342492>Part 1 Naruto really isn't that close to Sasuke and was more angry over how hurt Sakura was with his leaving.But that's not what the story tells us.I don't think Naruto even thought of Sakura during VoTE1.
>>287344254Well, he rarely wanted to. They're also too shitty for domination loss, so he arguably saved it for the best moment at least.
>>287344053Its mostly just 1 very dedicated hater that nitpicks shit every day in every chapter
>>287342534Kishimoto shows women in prominent roles for the sole purpose of humiliating them.
>>287344217
>>287342878>Fictional story with magic where humans can outpunch bears must still have women in the kitchenKishi....
>>287343194Pic unrelated
>>287341730For those of you who weren't there at the time.Hinata fans were gloating. Naruto fans joined the Hinata camp, if they weren't there already. Sakura fans were deeply divided between the NaruSaku and SasuSaku camps. People who already disliked Sakura before this just had more reasons to complain for years. It lit the message boards on fire, and basically cemented Hinata's victory.
>>287343741Mf that would be even more mean spirited
>>2873440535/10 manga that can get as high as 7 or maaaaybe 8/10 sometimes but often 3/10does that sound fair
>>287344296Why is this bitch watching me masturbate?
>>287342534The problems are exaggerated. Before Naruto/One Piece most shonen had barely any prominent female characters to begin with and the ones that were prominent weren't fighters. Naruto at least has a ton of relevant and important female characters but the male characters (like every shonen) are the important ones and the ones he clearly cared the most about. People just really don't like Sakura and Karin especially but the treatment of female characters isn't really any worse than Bleach or One Piece. Just look at Boa Hancock and Big Mom and how female characters in both those series are basically just for fanservice. The difference is that people like Nami, Robin, and Rukia, the main girls, but overall female characters are still basically treated as secondary in all three series.The only "big" shonen that actually did a really good job with its female cast is somehow Black Clover.
>>287344053The writing is legit close to 0/10. What made it good is Kishi's creativity in coming up with character concepts, abilities and the concept of the world plus some cool art, but in part 2 even that creativity fades until it's just cruising on old glory and aura farming.
>>287341826aura from naruto
>>287344179>I have never heard of this.It's a Japanese proverb. This is not a positive phrase at all in Japan and has very negative connotations there.
>>287344501>in part 2 even that creativity fadesWe literally just got 3 (4) new villages/Kages with pretty cool abilities and Kishimoto also came up with tons of things for Akatsuki members. Tone shift is one thing, but saying Kishimoto stopped delivering new character concepts/abilities is just wrong.
>>287344228>Did Kishi forget Yamato kinda shipped them?Except he didn't; you only thought so due to a red herring. The point is we never get to hear what he actually meant. Yamato either realized his mistake or never meant romantic love to begin with, going by his reaction in this chapter. He was just as shocked and appalled as everyone else who witnessed it.
Pretty sad thread for one of the most shitposting worthy chapters
It's funny to see Naruto threads. It's just people complaining about everything.
>>287344566They're less creative than in part 1. Akatsuki was still decent, although there was reuse of part 1 abilities like Sasori and powers stop having unique up and downsides that make them interesting. Then in the war arc everything devolves into stat scaling, oneshot abilities, unbreakable defenses and warping reality.
>>287344632>in the war arc everything devolves into stat scaling, oneshot abilities, unbreakable defenses and warping realityWar arc has a pretty big amount of powers actually interacting. By that point they're clearly wizards but only in the war will you see shit like "okay they've got these black balls we must avoid at all costs but we can hit them with senjutsu but we can also just use teleportation or mark them to try to blindside them and thankfully we can share chakra with our guys so they can back us up with their own jutsu and Minato can teleport away the black balls mid attack"That's not because Kishimoto grew smarter, that's because the war arc is so long it actually forces Kishimoto to draw fights rather than skipping them like he does in most of his entire manga. Sorry you can't really say he stopped showing new powers. Not that showing new powers means the manga is good by itself obviously.
>>287344566Pain's abilities and how he worked really showed Kishi's creativity the best. Especially compared to how every fanfic thought he would be.
>>287344681He shows new powers but they're not creative. The first Kage that fights is literall just a fast brawler with an ability that makes him faster and stronger (and his chakra is like a biju!!). Sure, part one had stuff like Lee as well (though his gates at least have a downside), but there's never heights like fighting with chakra eating bugs or Kankuro's puppet play again.Your example is literally just generic destruction balls, teleportation and destruction balls to answer the destruction balls.
>>287344681Just for comparison, Shikamaru's fight against Tayuya, which should be one of the more complex ones in part 1, was pretty poor. All Shikamaru did was setup 10 kunai + smoke bomb + flashbang offscreen which suddenly all fired at Tayuya and got her into his shadow. It sounds good when I write it but when you read it you can see Kishimoto just drew "and then Shikamaru won" without showing actual tactics.
>>287344681Even Naruto, bee, kakashi, and guy vs whitemaskbito was pretty kino
>>287344741>The first Kage that fights is literall just a fast brawler with an ability that makes him faster and strongerWell yeah and guess what? It was tactical, even then. Sasuke used his Sharingan to get a counter in, but failed to drive it deep enough, so the Raikage used a grapple but Sasuke could defend against it with Susanoo, tried to use his fast Amaterasu to hit the Raikage but the Raikage knew it was coming from Sasuke focusing so he raised his speed and could dodge it. Sasuke saw he couldn't react to the Raikage punching his Susano so he put Amaterasu on it to try and make it impervious, which kinda backfired on both him and the Raikage. That's as technical as anything in part 1, probably more than a lot of these part 1 fights.>>287344766Yes actually. I will dare to say this is a fight with more tactics and better choreography than a LOT of part 1 fights.My memory is very hazy, but we also had stuff like 8 tails throwing people or getting Kamui'd into the Juubi to try and Bijuu Dama his eye. This goes beyond the scope of most part 1 fights because we actually get to see the fights unfold lol.
>>287344416Bringing Lee along was pretty cruel, it's like she lowkey wanted him to know that he'll never have a chance
>>287344296>She's got lifeless eyes, brown eyes, like a doll's eyes... When she comes at you, doesn't seem to be living... Until she cucks ya.
Naruto really brings out knee jerk reaction from drooling speds. Most of the 5KS has brought in lore and Shippuden has expanded the verse beyond the Leaf but you retards are seething over Sakura. Reality is pink is a teenager with the grasp on others befitting someone her age. She’s not being malicious in her misdirection. This chapter is also Hinatafags flicking long expired ashes of a ship because they have nothing to go off of so far in Shippuden.
>>287344741>fighting with chakra eating bugs or Kankuro's puppet playThat's basically just Shino telling Kankuro he put a bug on him when he tried to punch him and Kankuro saying "lol lmao that wasn't me I was the puppet all along, substitution jutsu amirite?". This isn't very tactical at all. Certainly far less tactical than most of the fights during the war.Honestly I doubt you remember these parts well enough. They have their issues and I'm fine with anyone calling Naruto shit but it's objectively true that late part 2 Kishimoto was trying harder to write Jojo-like fights than part 1 Kishimoto offscreening almost everything. Pic related is a good example.
>>287344766Honestly one of my favorite fights in the series.
>>287344794War arc made kishi draw the coreography for the fights which he seemed allergic to so often
>>287344881Yep.People are mostly parroting opinions from 10 years ago without really remembering this manga (even though I don't really want to defend Kishimoto).
>>287344923Actually this deserves a stitch too.
>>287342031Isn't he a bald bachelor in Boruto, too?
>>287344871I'm not talking about choreography, I'm talking about creative abilities. I'll believe you the choreo is better in the war arc, but I doubt it's anything to write home about.
>>287344992Madara and Obito's abilities alone are more creative than most of what we got in part 1. Madara had Limbo and all sorts of crazy shit like truth seeking balls.Better yet, just look at Pain. So many things going on at the same time. It feels less organic and "real" than, say, Neji's gentle fist which is evocative of real martial arts (heavily exaggerated) but it's definitely more complex.
Kamui was actually perfect because Naruto couldn't use his freshly unlocked kaiju mode, and everyone had to coordinate around Kakashi.
>>287345033Do tell, what those truth seeking balls do.
>>287344992I would say the most creative abilities in the War arc are probably the Second Mizukage and the KinGin brothers using the Sage's weapons. Those are actually pretty different and unique on the same level as some of the weirder stuff in Part 1.
>>287341762kek at Yamato about to throw hands over this
>>287345116Can be used to attack from range or block incoming attacks while you're doing something else with your own body, which created interesting situations where potentially stronger characters had to act extra wary to avoid them. Pic related. These were Jojo fights. Part 1 were aura farming fights.
>>287345163I mean, just look at this.You can dislike it. You're allowed to call the entire arc trash if you want. It's just objectively deeper and more mechanical than "and then Shikamaru's offscreen kunais all fired and Tayuya was forced into his shadow"
Hahahahah Watching One Piece really shows what a dogshit series this is. Even Bleach is a masterpiece compared to Naruto. I love it's world, I love the jutsus, even over a decade later I'm still thinking up fanfiction ideas for this thing. It's got such a grip on me I can never forget it. And yet the story sucks. The characters suck. The MC sucks. It's like someone had a pot of gold and then took a massive shit inside it. How did this shit persist after all these years, to the point they could even create a sequel to it? I seriously don't get it. On its own it's so bad, compared to the rest of muh big three, it's like a kid trying to match up to adults. It's like it's there undeservedly, with no leg to stand on. Every arc, Luffy becomes a stronger, better character everyone can depend on. Ichigo gets stronger, cooler and rises above the difficulty placed before him. And Naruto? He's just there, weak, stupid, incapable of fighting anyone stronger than the genin of his generation. Then he gets a massive powerup out of nowhere because the story demands it and that's it. And the side characters? OP gave all the crew a big ass moment. Everyone grew and fought, even other crew captains had their moments to shine. Characters are developed, cool and fun to watch. Bleach too, in spite of their abundance, made the side characters noticeable. And Naruto? Sakura is useless for most of the manga, just a whiny fodder. Sasuke is a gloomy retard who's only getting powerful because Kishi gets a hard on for dark haired brooding types. The rest of konoha 12? Useless. No development. No moments. Well, except Shikamaru but he's also a dark haired brooder so yeah. The jonin? Asuma? Useless? Kurenai? Useless. Kakashi? Somewhat useful but also a shit character. Other villages genin? Nonexistent outside of Suna. The world? Unknown. Most info comes from fillers. The ending? Trash. Corpo boruslop ad. Naruto becoming a deadbeat dad after growing up an orphan is the most retarded thing ever.
>>287345163>>287345179Idk, maybe I'm being uncharitable, but looks like they're just balls that can hurt the opponent or block them, basically a shapelocked version of gaaras sand and the way to deal with them is to... teleport them away?
>>287343359If she admitted that her "relationship" with sasuke in part 1 was non-existent and that her obsession with a guy she went on 3 missions with 2 years ago who recently tried to kill them is completely insane then that might convince nardo. But that would also expose his own BUC infatuation as being extremely shallow and faggy and probably give him a fatal heart attack.
>>287344053Naruto has great aesthetics and powers but the writing is legit dreadful in Shippuden. I'm not talking about the ships or anything, I mean the real problems like Tobi's entire character or excessive Sharingan wank or characters being unable to process how serious it is that Sasuke is a terrorist and thinking they can just politely ask Kages to spare him. There's this rather childish approach to things in general, like I get it's a shonen but I don't think a real adult would deal with Nagato in the way Kishi does.
>>287345232Well you're right that they're basically flying projectiles (although unlike Gaara's sand they don't have to crush, just touch). The real difference is in how they're being used.Take Gaara's fight with Lee, all that ended up happening was Gaara tanking everything with a bullshit substitution that made no sense and the gourd turning into sand and breaking his fall somehow. That's the entire tactical aspect of this fight.In part 1, you never get some weird intricate setup like >>287345179 that I can't describe so easily:>Guy rushes at Madara, Madara throws balls, Lee throws kunai at balls, Minato teleports at balls and teleports away with the balls, Kakashi kamui's Madara's shield, Guy gets his punch in
>>287343359Are you asking this from the perspective of if she wasn't lying through her teeth? Because she IS lying through her teeth, and Naruto sees right through it, so really nothing is that wrong with this scenario as it plays out. Sakura is doing the wrong thing here for the right reasons - she is lying to Naruto to try to convince him to stop destroying himself over what she now mostly considers a futile venture. She does still deeply love Sasuke and not Naruto, but she's trying to let Naruto off the hook (in the wrong way).
>>287345336Both of them are retarded. Naruto for chasing after Sasuke like he's the most important thing in the world to the point where he looks like a massive bitch begging, whining and grovelling for him. Sakura for loving a guy who tried to kill her just because he's hot.
Here's a food for thought:Isn't it weird that Sakura doesn't think about Hinata in all of this? Like, you could make the argument that she doesn't view Hinata as a friend (yet), which is what most people go with when defending Sakura, but the narrative ALWAYS show all those konoha kids as one big group of friends.Naruto obviously see them all as friends because he's Naruto, Kakashi sees them all as friends because to his boomer brain they hang out so they are friends, but then you have Sasuke who, despite not having any genuinely strong bond with anyone outside of T7, still sees all of those side genin as one big group of friends, even saying at two moments that he no longer can play friends with them.Why would it not be the same for Sakura?Did Kishi not completely discard the possibility of making them "love rivals" for Naruto yet?It's pretty ironic that Kishimoto expect the readers to whole heartedly believe that these people with barely to no interaction at all in the story are friends but every once in a while he will make them act like glorified acquaintances whenever it's convenient for cheap drama.
>>287345552Sakura barely views Hinata as a human being. They never interact.
>>287342060>hold up Yamato....>This is just like make out paradise
>>287345552I doubt she thought further than "let's stop this self-destructive obsession now, Naruto" and that they would become a couple and that this would break Hinata's heart and so on. Was she even aware of the confession?
>>287345599Does she?In the chunin exams, she was arguably more worried about Hinata's safety than anyone there, she even went to check on her after Neji got stopped by the jonin (unlike Shino), she even told Naruto she was like him almost she was playing the wingwoman role she would be more known to do in the last.Then in part 2, specifically in the pain arc, she's the only one who actually thinks of going to Hinata either healing her or give her a proper burial.This scene is the only one that feels odd, not the other way around.
>>287343200I'm surprised nu-chan has been turning its back on Naruto. Throughout this Manga Kishi has proven to be based and redpilled beyond belief.
>>287345675Literally the first thing she thinks of when healing Hinata was "You love Naruto".
>>287342060>Nvm, never cook again Sakura
>>287345730Then my follow up argument is that they're all adults and "omg I can't believe you started dating X you knew I was into him" is not on her mind right now
>>287344970>Isn't he a bald bachelor in Boruto, too?He has a son, so unless he paid for surrogacy he must have scored at least once.
>>287345813They are 16 actually.>inb4 "enough to kill, old enough to fuck and drink" or "legal in my country"
>>287341828>Did Sakura know she was indirectly cucking Hinata here?Yes. She also hugged Naruto in front of the whole village shortly after this moment.
>>287345829Fair 'nuff
>>287345872KEK I already forgot, but is that an edit? That sequence is too fucking perfect.
>>287345872>hinata loves naruto>takes a bullet for him and confesses her love >he doesnt go see if shes alright after the fight and completely ignores her existence Kishi is a hack.
>>287341898trying to make her stupid shallow crush seem like it's super deep
>>287345961Nardo is autistic. He didn't get the hint.
>>287344053It’s a flawed series, what did you expect?
>>287344458>isn't really any worse than Bleach or One Piece.Don't even joke man. Sure, none of the woman in Bleach or One Piece are absolute invincible badasses like the top tier men, but both series have many, many female characters who are more capable, more badass, and more well-fleshed-out than any and every female Naruto character.
>>287344053>Naruto would be a 0/10 series with literally nothing good to say about it ever.You can praise some of Naruto's aesthetics and concepts, that's all. Once Kishimoto's editors let him off the leash the writing became genuine 0/10 crap.
>>287345872Hugging him is fine, they are friends.It's not like she looked back with a smug grin towards Hinata specifically to piss her off or "claim" Naruto.
there is a literal WAR declared on the shinobi world and you fags are still gossiping about ships and romance
>>287341833>>287342124>>287342157>>287342315>>287343576And pinkshitters clapped btw. Absolutely hilarious.
>>287341762Meh, Yamato's fan translated line was funnier>WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU...>>287343117I too remember Lee facepalming at some point. We can't be the only ones who remember.
>>287342068He might know of Hinata's confession by this point. I would be livid in his place too. I am livid myself.
>>287341730I know from a metanarrative perspective their mutual obsession with sasuke is a driving force of the plot but looking at it from within the story there's no reason sakura didn't fall for naruto. From the land of waves arc on he's been the most reliable and effective member of their team and saved not only them but the entire village multiple times. At this point he's a powerful shinobi and proper hero and yet sakura ignores him in favor of a terrorist shitter who spent much of his time in part 1 losing, unconscious or needing snake roids to stay alive.
>>287346323>At this point he's a powerful shinobi and proper heroOh so women are only into boys with status is what you're saying
>>287346025That's not a hint, that's a sledgehammer to the face. Even then, I'd imagine if someone takes a beating for you, you'd at least go and see them after to see if they're alright, not keep going like nothing happened.
>>287346355Did Hinata use the romantic "love" in "I love you"? I know Japanese has several words for that
>>287346323Yeah but Sasuke is hot and broody. It doesn't matter that he constantly insulted her, ignored her and tried to kill her. I guess Kishi did write a realistic woman when you consider she rejected a nice guy in favour of a douchebag.
>>287346382She used "daisuki" which can be used in different situations but considering the context of the situation, it can only be seen as a love confession. EVEN THEN, we're talking about a guy who received zero affection almost his entire life. A youth of scorn, then a team of uncaring idiots etc. Even if he didn't realize it was a love confession, it was still the most verbal affection he ever received in his life. It should have made Hinata an incredibly special person to him after that, not a fodder to ignore.
The chunin exam is what closed off the world building of naruto and we should blame kishi instead of his editors for that, right?
I daisuki Temari's forehead
>>287346382I think she used "daisuki", because if she used "aishiteru" there's no way that Naruto would have confused that "love" with the "love" for ramen.In contrast, I think Itachi used "aishiteru" in his exit scene.
>>287341826Thanks OPthis manga really fell off a cliff after the Pain arc
>>287346335>Oh so women are only into boys with status That too. It's actually pretty unrealistic that only hinata would think of nardo in a romantic/sexual way when he's a big fucking hero who saved konoha and brought a bunch of people back from the dead. He should of had his own gaggle of fangirls itching to cure his gayness but kishi is a traditional (closeted) sort who firmly believes in monogamy. One man, one woman and the secret gay lover he lets assfuck him behind the ramen shop.
Did they do it
>>287346019hot!
>>287346323>there's no reason sakura didn't fall for naruto>he's been the most reliable and effective member of their team>and saved not only them but the entire village multiple times>At this point he's a powerful shinobi and proper hero and yet sakura ignores himJust setting aside the fact that Naruto has consistently not only not been reliable, but actively sabotaged their missions and been carried by Sasuke, Gamabunta, Jiraiya, Kakashi, Yamato, Kurama, and Sakura herself over the course of the whole series, just being competent and saving people is not enough to make people fall in love with someone.Otherwise every character in Part 1 would be in love with Guy.
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>>287346440>>287346323Another writer would have made sakura fall in love for naruto possibly kubo or Arakawa hell Inoue might hsve made them fuck for luck.
>>287346721Naruto would never
>>287343065I hope that soon.
>>287346723>kubo
>>287346696>but actively sabotaged their missionswhen>Otherwise every character in Part 1 would be in love with Guy.Except Guy didn't do much of anything in part 1. Literally all he did was stop the match between gaara and lee, kick jiraya and beat some sand ninja fodder with kakashi.
>>287341730>>287341746>>287341762>>287341778>>287341790>>287341806>>287341818>>287341826She truly became the Pinkshit.
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>>287346723I don't even need her to fall for ruto, it just makes no sense she's still in love with sasuke. She started crushing on him because all the other girls in class did, then he just treated her like shit and tried to kill her. Quite literally the most shallow crush ever written.
>>287346723>kuboichiruki sisters, is this true?
>>287346803Thats what will improve her character no matter how much people will hate it or love it , just by dropping the sasuke bullshit and making her like someone else or specifically naruto unconditionally gives an upgrade to her character.We all fucking hate her but if she genuinely liked naruto tons of opinions would change.
>>287346762Oh you want a list?>Arrived at the bridge and shouted about being a hero, Kakashi and Sasuke were upset because they knew he would make things worse, jumped into Haku's trap alongside Sasuke instead of helping free him, spammed shadow clones even though it kept failing and Sasuke was shouting at him to stop, and got taken down forcing Sasuke to jump in front of him to protect him.>Arrived at the Orochimaru fight and shouted about being a hero, punched Sasuke in the face for "being a coward" when Sasuke was doing his best to get the team away from an S-rank opponent, launched himself at Orochimaru and immediately got knocked out (got saved by Sakura pinning him to the tree with a kunai), which forced Sasuke to stay and fight to protect him and Sakura, getting him bitten by Orochimaru, leading to Sasuke being influenced by the Cursed Seal and running from the village.>Pushed Hinata to continue fighting against Neji when he had been going easy on her at the beginning, leading to a progressively more aggressive fight where she started coughing up blood and was getting beaten so badly she was on the brink of death, shouted at her to continue even when her sensei was saying any more and she would die, which led to her getting up after Neji struck her heart and Neji attacking with a death blow (which was only stopped by the jonin stepping in).>Openly laughed in Sasuke's face out of excitement at the thought of fighting him when Sasuke had just woken up from a coma and was clearly in a mentally unstable position, followed him up to the hospital roof even when Sakura was shouting at them to stop, spammed clones and used a Rasengan (deadly jutsu) on him which caused Sasuke to retaliate with Chidori, both of them almost killed Sakura or possible each other if Kakashi hadn't stepped in.
>>287346929True. Too bad Kishi is a hack.
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>>287346964he's an idealistic child soldier
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>>287347069kek
>>287346845Kubo would have had Sakura actually leave the village with Sasuke that night
>>287347069This one was good
>>2873418262D women are supposed to be better. Christ.
>>287346762>Participated in the mission to retrieve Sasuke after Sakura asked him to get him back, finally made it through on his own to the VoTE battle, lost control and went berserk, started threatening to break all of Sasuke's limbs and throwing him around like a ragdoll and smashing him into cliff faces instead of attempting any persuasion, which pushed Sasuke into a more destructive form of the Cursed Seal (increasing Orochimaru's influence over his mind), got a Chidori through his chest, and passed out after their final attack, only surviving thanks to Sasuke's morality.>Participated in the mission to retrieve Sasuke again with modified Team 7, made it to the bridge where Orochimaru was meant to meet with Sasori, went berserk again at the mere mention of Sasuke, would have killed Sakura if Yamato hadn't stopped him.>Participated in the fight against Pain, got bailed out by the Nine Tails when Hinata was injured and Pain had him pinned to the ground (literally thought he destroyed Hinata and the other villagers), went against Katsuyu's advice to take reinforcements and went to go confront Nagato on his own (when weakened), refused to fight Nagato and lucked out that Nagato was so moved by his name that he killed himself instead of just sucking all of Naruto's chakra out and taking the Nine Tails.>Showed up at the Kage Summit and engaged in the most horrendous act of anti-diplomacy ever, gave up all of the intel they had on the Akatsuki (barring Sasuke) for free, let some random beat the shit out of him just because she was angry, and groveled at the feet of the guy who tried to kidnap his mother.
>>287341730I remember the day this chapter dropped.The entire board was in flames.
>>287346929>>287346323It absolutely wouldn't improve her character just because she suddenly fell for nice guy Naruto. It just makes her look shallow in a different way. Her entire retarded confession laid that out.
>>287346323>naruto losing to Haku>begs fox daddy for chakra >wins>naruto losing to Neji>begs Fox daddy for chakra>wins>naruto losing to Gaara >begs fox daddy for chakra>wins>but Sasuke’s wins don’t count because he used the curse mark! Can someone explain this logic to me please?
>>287347085>Ino is barely hurtThe best girl gets treated the best.
>>287346762(And tried to kidnap his ostensible love interest).>Except Guy didn't do much of anything in part 1.He did, he's the only one who chased both Gaara and Itachi off. Guy and Itachi are the strongest characters in Part 1, and Guy is the only one who's openly on the village's side.You're missing the point though. That's irrelevant because even if Naruto was the most reliable and effective member of their team, it still wouldn't mean Sakura didn't have any reason not to fall in love with him.If by some bizarre chance of fate Chiyo was on Team 7 instead of Naruto and did everything he did, Sakura would not fall in love with her. Why? Because Chiyo is an old lady and Sakura is not attracted to old ladies.You're essentially arguing from a competence = attraction standpoint which is a more archaic kind of human attraction than "falling in love". It's "that guy is the best at hunting in the tribe therefore all the women want to mate with him to increase their offspring's chance of surviving". The problem with that is Naruto is not accomplishing crazy feats due to his own abilities. He's only accomplishing them thanks to a giant kaiju sealed inside him (and lots of plot devices designed to make him win), which doesn't pass down to children.
>>287347443Ino is the abuser.
>>287347418It's kind of like Gokufags who insist Vegeta using Oozaru "didn't count" despite the fact that it's no different than any other form.Only the MC is allowed to cheat.
>tumbleweeds
>>287346625Jesus I busted hard to this video. It's Canon as far as I'm concerned.
>>287343087Are you forgetting when Sasuke's arms dealers were talking cats who took catnip as payment?Naruto's worldbuilding has been all over the place for a while.
>>287341695>It appears that Eight Tails truly is alive.>Thus, I feel Lord Raikage will remain calm.What is this logic? The fact that Ay calmed down when it turned out the cause of his anger was false doesn't change the fact that he has the disposition to chimp out in the first place.
>>287343536Madara "died" 65 years before the start of the story, or 68 years before the current point.Onoki is 79 right now.Onoki had to have been 11 or younger when he and Madara "fought".
>>287343359Talk no Jutsu is ultimately a skill grounded in relatability. You need to establish that you and your target aren't so different so that they empathize with you. And then you strike by convincing them to act completely out of character.Naruto is incapable of relating to or empathizing with someone who got over Sasuke.
>>287348136>trying to make sense of Naruto timelines
Sakura in this chapter is one of the most realistic portrayals of women in manga, but it just doesn’t fit the series
>>287341778I can believe that Naruto believes Sakura when she says she doesn't love Sasuke anymore but not that she's giving up on him.
>>287343359I don't think she ever could have convinced him of that, because it's not true.I feel like just being honest would have done more to convince Naruto. The fact that she's even trying to talk Naruto out of this shows that she does genuinely care about him more than Sasuke.Just say that she loves Naruto like a brother, that even if she is still attracted to Sasuke romantically, going after a comrade who betrayed them is not worth losing the comrade who's still with her.That even if they both still care about Sasuke, the feeling is clearly not mutual after Sasuke attempted to murder them, and has been racking up crimes for 3 years.Apologize for making Naruto promise to bring Sasuke back, saying she wasn't in her right mind when she asked that and it was too much to thrust on Naruto.Point out how Naruto is the hero of the village, that everyone finally loves and respects him, and that he'd be throwing it all away if he dies in pursuit of Sasuke.
>>287341778>That Sai
>>287347262>>287346964After going back and reading some chapters from part 1 I admit that I was wrong here. If not for kurama nardo's retardation would've gotten him killed 10 times over. Really both him and sauce were shitters who constantly needed outside help to survive. Whether it's snake pedophiles or a giant fox.
>>287341665It's odd that despite 90% of the cast not returning in Boruto, the Tsuchikage and Ao are killed off.
>>287341959sakura, this is not the time and place for your faggy feelings.
>>287341746>top panels: "Naruto, you're gay"
>>287343912Danzo's retarded scheming achieves absolutely nothing, that's his legacy.
>>287342046thanks op. it was really dumb and gay. yes, even more than usual.
>>287342066They'd go Cuba blockade on Konoha if he doesn't step down.
>>287348143THIS is a guy worth falling in love to. Anko is so lucky.
>>287341826>>287342040he destroyed this bitch, jesus christ. Now that's how you kill a ship.
>>287341730Narusakubros!
>>287341730>"don't care about sauce anymore, i was totally wrong to ever like him in the first place"totally not a lie btw
>>287341730>>287341746>>287341762>>287341778>Kishimoto: Here's an example of a "woman moment", those fucking subhumans.
>>287348702>I'll take any beating for my hecking terrorist friend Sasuke I haven't seen in 2 years and he tried to kill me last time>Please Raikage-sama spare Sasuke he did nothing... he only attacked your brother, the jinchuriki of 8 tails after joining the organization that tries to kill me too...>masked guy from the organization, you're telling me Sasuke did everything because it was his decision?? he left the village after I tried to take him back but refused to come back and now after everything he did it was his wish to do all those crimes?? I can't believe you. SHUT UP SASUKE IS A GOOD BOYYY>Sakura, what? what do you mean you stop... you want me to stop being so obsessed about that guy after all he did? Sakura, I HATE YOU. I hate people like you, what do you mean? Sasuke is EVERYTHING, and I hate people who lie to themselves when saying Sasuke isn't everything... Before he left and you tried to stop him and he didn't listen to you and then did all those crimes, you liked him don't you? and now you don't?? I hate people who lie to themselves. YOU LOVE HIMthis is so fucking trash lmao, we don't appreciate editors enough man
Out of nowhere, if I were to write a reason for 9 tails appearing stronger than the other beasts given how strong half is, it'd be dying and respawning makes them weaker for some time or that staying around alive gets them power over time. It's just it's so hard to kill them that nobody noticed this relative power imbalance and even their weakest is strong so their reputation persists.3 tails died and came back very recently in Naruto. It also got a Jinchuriki that tamed it offscreen and still got his ass kicked and brainwashed though he was a kage, maybe it was easier to tame and everyone assumed the brainwashed fuckboy was stronger rather than it weak. 8 tails clashed with 3rd raikage for days and knocked each other out, if it died and respawned from the damage then never died again it would still have many decades over 3 tails. If Shukaku died before being sealed in the old man or any point before being back in Gaara, that's good because he's hard to control even if weaker. 9 tails would just be lucky because he never died for a very long time and the Uzumaki sealing techniques allowed safe transfer with him surviving each time. Minato didn't let Kushina kill it both because it would respawn angry but also because he wanted to seal away strong enough in Naruto but not too strong to tame, he didn't want a newly revived weak version for his son.
>>287343741>She could have brought Hinata instead of LeeNardo is very lucky Hinata isn't there for any of this arc. Seeing this part in person or Naruto getting beaten up for a terrorist, and groveling to the guys who tried to have Hinata kidnapped at one point might've made her reconsider many things.>>287346964>Pushed Hinata to continue fighting against NejiAnd then Naruto's like how dare you take it that far after egging the fight on multiple times lol. Is he even shown feeling any remorse for doing that at any point?
>>287341730>>287341746So many people over hated this scene cause they are low IQ incels. Tldr Sakura actually did it out of genuine selfless love for Naruto. It was even explicitly reiterated by Yamato and Sai.
Kishimoto is extremely based for writing the race traitor, globalist pawn Itachi as a hero.
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