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Time for Main to print her husband for noble ladies to enjoy and sponsor our merry new labor camp in Hasse!
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Her name is Myne(mine)
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>>287691120
and mein, and マイン, and chowmien, yeah.
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we're printing through wax now
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>>287691100
Is the pace still bad?
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>>287691201
it's still okay enough
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>>287691120
I call her Mao Mao
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This series should have been yuri. Imagine Ferdinand as a tragic heroine with glasses and Myne defying the aristocracy with an impregnation miracle.
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I had a dream today in which I was Myne
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why does Elvira like ferdinand
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>>287691297
frederica ehrenfest would have to be a hard working, introverted klutz with a moe gap who becomes super dependable when it matters. and the romance should change from being an ever-cool superior to a slightly bashful superior who main would sink with warmth.
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>>287691692
>hot
>very smart
>very powerful
>mysterious
>interesting
It's not a personal kind of "like", he's just a sex symbol.
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>chissa--
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>literally told Damuel he is easy to dispose right to his face
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Isn't this woman married? Why is she so openly lusting after Ferdinand?
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The little chibi scenes are atrocious and will ruin Part 4(if we get that far)
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>>287691781
He's like a male celebrity. Women don't stop lusting after male celebrities just because they're married. Add to this that Elvira's and Karstedt's marriage is a loveless one.
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Stitches.
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sasuga rihyarda. no one else is this powerful.
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What did he mean by this and why was it just completely glossed over
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>>287691201
Better than ep 1 and 2 so it's in ok. I wish we got 28 episode though so some transition and nuances/detail are being adapted or to become good enough pacing
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>>287691815
it's a
>how dare you have so much fun outside the castle when you're younger, and an adopted doublenigger
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>>287691823
That's it? Why bother including it at all then
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Am I the only one who thinks Angelica's anime design has a tiny head?
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>>287691815
His parents seem to be head over heels for Myne so he feels neglected, or at least that's my take.
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>>287691829
that brat will be corrected in delicious detail on screen, and forced to read for the first time in his life, that's why.
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>>287691201
It's a lot better this episode
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>>287691829
For set up there are ton of set up but because the pacing it's glossed over / oversimplified
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>>287691792
why though, are these chibi scenes drawing from specific content known in advance?
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>>287691860
They're tonal rape and weren't in the books.
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>>287691860
NTA but it ruin characterization and small detail that should be included in the episode got put there
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>>287691875
>noooooo my after credits scene can't be fun reeeeee
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>>287691894
Who are you quoting? This isn't /v/
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>>287691297
Keep your mental illness to the containment thread.
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Why doesn't Myne just use the force to choke Ferdinand until he learns not to fuck with her and then read her books in peace? Why does Myne let all these people walk all over her when she is the most powerful person in the room?
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>>287691923
Ferdinand has more mana than her.
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>>287691711
Stop giving Elvira ideas about "Fernestine".

>>287691771
He knows it.
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>>287691875
I remember that one where the 3 ojisans are competing about the chef. also this ticket thing
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>>287691958
>he knows it
hey, at least she's ready to keep him around for life
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>>287691923
Every noble could use the force to choke someone but it doesn't mean they should do it.

Less mana means weaker force also it depends on intense emotion so you couldn't just use it.

Also we will have break week for the next week because MHA final episode or something
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>>287691964
You can have silly scenes without flanderization.
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>>287691815
It was the same way in the light novel, it is built up for the next volume.
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Last stitch.
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>>287691923
What? You want Myne to die?
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>>287692004
Mf never read any of the ln little comic strips at the end? The chibi scenes look literally just any of the comics in the novel. And in there the characters do act a lot more intensely, being set on fire, screaming and etc. It's part of the series OFICIAL way of doing certain explanations and scenes.
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>>287692122
I'm not watching the anime, I dropped S1 because it had chibi scenes in the middle of episodes. If they're only post-credit that's fine.
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>>287691816
It's interesting to see some ladies actually dressed in white. I thought they would be against wearing it as it's the color of Ewigeliebe and he's a fucking asshole.
Like, by their rules they need to dress either in the color of the season or of their birth season (and I assume this scene occurs during the summer? Considering Elvira is wearing blue). But for winter they could just use red...
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>>287691923
Getting tangled up with nobility in isekai is such a bad deal. I hope she can escape them some day.
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>>287692147
Tbh, the chibi scenes in past seasons were one of the few moments that crap had any proper animation and production...

And they were a source of amazing memes and emotes for us in the discord server. So we are kinda fond of them.
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IT'S TIME
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>>287691279
kek
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fuck, i'm an episode behind
being without internet for these past two months has fucked my life
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>>287692328
Were you get thrown to a cave or what? Anyway, so many cute Rozemyne faces today.
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>>287692380
i finally moved out of my parents' home and i'm now living alone
the internet service installation is taking a while
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>>287692414
just download asw rips from their telegram channel
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Based Myne knows that women are less trustworthy.
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>>287692461
Damuel is ride or die. You're a traitorous BITCH.
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>>287691692
Aside what that other anon said Elvira thought without Ferdinand's help Ehrenfest would've collapsed already.
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>>287692453
i will try it out and see how it works, thanks
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>>287691815
His PoV is that Rozemine gets special privilege and attention from his parents that he doesn't get not knowing that she's being worked like a dog.
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>>287691923
Because they can remotely kill her commoner family?
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>>287692605
>spoiler
What, this is not a fact?
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>>287691833
correct
>>287691815
it's like this in the novel too, wilfried just spergs out at her without telling her the reason (because nobles never actually say what they actually want to, they always talk in roundabout ways) and she doesnt understand and walks away
later her attendants will explain what he's freaking out about
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>>287691923
functionally her family commoner family is being held hostage
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>>287692414
i hope you get internet soon anon, that's nightmarish, congrats on moving out
>>287692919
its for sure a fact but most people don't have that opinion (right now) because ferdinand did all of his work from the temple until veronica got sent to prison at the end of last season/beginning of this season
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Lessy when?
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>>287691100
Nice, I need my weekly AI fix.
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>>287692200
>escape
heh
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Techincally speaking, Myne is a cougar
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>>287691816
I started to understand why Rozemyne loves gradient colors.
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So many character building moments skipped or simplified...
I know it's inevitable but still.
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Will wilfried ever score ?
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>>287693696
shitfried felt the most noticeable. barely enough screen time to feel why he's so frustrated
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>>287693721
What? There's more reasons why he act out, but at that point he really is just mad that his own father talks about real work with Rozemyne and not him.
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>>287693845
hm? maybe the same scenes felt longer in writing. or i'm biased by the rushed bloodied baptism scene.
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Address me
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>>287693715
He prefers to watch instead.
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>>287693949
jesus FUCK
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>>287693949
I wonder if they will show Rozemyne get knocked out by a snowball.
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>>287691100
English subtitles with LN-terms.
https://gofile.io/d/W0JgSD
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>>287693721
Not really, it was the same abruptness in the light novel. Ofc it was set up for V2. But from the readers's pov, his frustration also came out of nowhere.
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>>287693949
your nose cant bleed that much
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>>287694092
She has extra blood sacs or some shit
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>>287694092
I don't know about that. I had some pretty bad nosebleeds in my life. I could've easily made those kinds of trails.
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>>287694092
I happen to be an expert on female anatomy, that's from her period.
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>they cut the scene of Myne whacking her head against Brigitte's boobs and her having to softening her breastplate
Makes you wonder what the point of even making an anime was if they're not going to put that in it.
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>>287693467
>cougar
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>>287691201
Pace is far too quick and the producers/backers of the anime will never want to spend the production time/money to encompass all the important context from the books. Just read the LNs at this point. The anime is a cliffs notes at best now.
The light novels have near zero filler, everything ties into everything else. The anime seems to be skipping over about 40% of the context the Light Novels lay out. That context comes into play later in the story in significant ways.
The horrendously truncated "restaurant" scene is a perfect example as it severely kneecaps the "final dinner" (much later) in the story, which is likely one of the top 3 best scenes in the entire journey.
I don't mind vestigial storybeats getting cut but the anime isn't doing that. It's glossing over and rushing past foundational core concepts. So they either are not going to adapt the whole series, or the tone is going to depart significantly from the books.
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we need to go faster!
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>>287693949
It wasn't a nosebleed.
She functionally gets maimed by Willfried and it traumatizes him. Ferdinand intends for this to happen because Willfried is a little irresponsible shit and wouldn't learn how fragile Myne is otherwise. The current Anime season sort of sucks compared to the LNs as it's just rushing through things.
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>>287694265
how much trombe paper can she produce at that torque and speed if shikikouza applies the tip of his messer to her cheek as she spins?
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I think that simplifying things is worse than skipping them outright, because it made the character seem completely different.
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This is a series which deserved 40 minute episodes and a more serious tone of adaption.
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>>287694356
why isn't there -sama after ferdinand? are these TLs for real?
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What happened to the audiobooks? They did Part 1 and then fucked off. Where's the rest of it?
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>>287694384
They don't do honorifics. And as for replacing them with shit like "lord/lady", if Quof was here he'd give you a lecture on how Japanese -sama doesn't work the same way or some shit.
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The real crime is they skipped Ferdinand stripping and inspecting her body. Can't show that in TV I guess
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>>287694441
Just run it through some TTS
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>>287694384
I do like Ferdinand-sama, it has more feelings than just Lord Ferdinand.
However, it has no place in the Official Translation.
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>>287694450 >>287694471
'ferdinand you meanie' just sounds wrong for formality and distance. but let the official adaptation readers miss out on it i guess, they wouldn't know what they're missing
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>>287694458
Dropped
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I'm starting to get lost and confused with this season so I might drop it. It's like they're mixing up the timeline of events and skipping parts. I'm also sick of seeing gen AI instantly appear every time the OP starts.

What the fuck happened to Wit?
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>>287692193
You actually think the production studio is paying that close attention? They are tripping over themselves to strip away as many nuanced themes as possible.
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>>287695016
Pick up the LN's. It's a good story. The Anime is butchering it pretty badly at this point to make time, which this type of story isn't conducive towards.
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>>287695111
slime has a very comfy 8 episodes per volume, you don't get that just anywhere
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AIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEE my experience have been completely shattered knowing that I haven't been able to read -sama honorifics like a good little obedient weeb.
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>>287695183
i just felt bad for english readers
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Myne anal
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>>287695685
She's a child
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>>287695696
Full Series Light Novel Spoiler, You've been warned: Who got magically jizzed into by Ferdidand Epstien when she was just 7 and then taken as a bride later in order to cover it up.
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>>287695696
Remember how everyone got mad because Rudeus is a fully grown adult?
she isn't a child
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Why is Myne so obsessed with books? Was she reading nothing but smut on earth? Or just yaoi works?
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>>287695894
So thousand year old loli vampires are now back on the menu?
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>>287696003
Ignoring their actual age is also discrimination against short people like the hamster banana office lady, and short people already have a hard enough life since girls won't talk to me. Wait what were we talking about again?
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>The temple is treated as a disgusting place that tarnishes the nobility who enter it
>Ferdinand the high priest is treated as an idol by all the noble women
This makes no sense
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>>287696766
He took up the post as a noble, not as someone who lost his status and was dumped there. Also there are many people aware of the faction bullshit going on in the background and the fact he tried to get away from Veronica.
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>>287691297
>This series should have been yuri. Imagine Ferdinand as a tragic heroine with glasses and Myne defying the aristocracy

Yes, my secret ship.
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>>287696766
>meanwhile ferd's inner monologue
>>287534251
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Oh, exploitable!
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>>287691692
>>287692605
It's also because her Marriage is a Unhappy one. Truly, Karstedt is not "mainly" at all, dude is a huge disappointment. How could Elvire ever lose someone like him?
Meanwhile there was that cousin or Karstedt and friend of her oldest son, very competent, very beautiful, to distract her from everything going on around her and sympathize in suffering.
Seriously, some very bad shit happened in that household and is true that if not for Ferdinand Ehrenfest would had imploded though I can't reveal the exact reason why.
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>>287696850
>vlcsnap
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Ferdinand doujins..... *pant pant*
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>>287692012
This season looks so bad and flat and dead, holy shit what happened with Wit?
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>>287696910
if you have a better solution for watching the live broadcast i'm all ears
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>>287696996
You are supposed to try to watch every anime ever made, meaning you have a big backlog and don't watch things that are currently airing.
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>>287696996
...oh.
You actually get a pass.
You're actually using the stream player (that's what VLC is) to play streams.
Carry on.
Everyone else who uses VLC to play downloaded files is still walking garbage.
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>>287697070
How did you manage to fuck that up? You were even provided a perfect transparency.
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>>287697087
because I'm a retard using paint
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>>287691297
would be kino and hot
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>>287697115
I'm pretty sure MSPaint has layers now, retard.
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I also use paint and have no clue how to do a layer, layers are for onions.
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She scares me
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>>287691945
Yet again I was tricked into watching an idol show...
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>>287697139
the fuck are layers?
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>>287694458
They'll probably cover it in some capacity before she starts hunting the ingredients. The highbeast scene continuity doesn't really make sense without it, but alas.
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>>287697487
I'll wait patiently for the porn then.
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>no boob pillow
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The whole time it was an /a/idoru baito?
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>>287696899
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>idol grooming and sexual exploitation
This show is kind of dark.
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>>287697952
Never tease books at Myne
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you know, I like the show and all,
but people throwing away broth and being stunned by it being tasty is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard.

That's just not something that would ever happen. It's way way too obvious.
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>>287697952
This show would be game of thrones if you literally took anyone's pov in the nobles' society. Rozemyne sometimes touches the darkness, but even then, she tries to ignore it if possible.
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>>287697878
Who doesn't love a good idol episode
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>>287697952
she'd rape you for a hon
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>>287698058
Is the idea that just broth alone is for peasants, or did they expect it to have nearly no flavor at all?
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>>287696766
The Temple is seen as a lowly place because of the people who inhabit it, not because being a priest is an inherently lowly profession. Most of the priests are disgraced nobles, but Ferdinand is there purely to avoid causing problems at court, and everybody knows this. Even if Ferdinand himself has no personal political ambitions, that wouldn't stop other ambitious nobles from using him to create problems for Sylvester. Going to the temple effectively removes Ferdinand from the board, and forces the nobles to find some other way to undermine Sylvester.
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>>287698292
If I'm not completely insane they said that they threw away the broth, because.... reasons.
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>>287697952
She'll get a whole troupe started soon
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>>287698292
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Shoulda been me.
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>>287697586
Please make it into the anime
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>>287691862
Cutes
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>>287697878
this is not an idol series
but it led to flicking the switch in Elvira's mind.
More books good, more printing workshops gooder.
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>>287699049
and I forgot the pic that I stole from r... I mean the internet.

"Dear, did something good happen?"
scribble scribble
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>>287691100
Rank her bodyguards in terms of power/skill
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>>287699180
for now it's brigitte and not much more no? maybe crude power moves from cornelius.
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>>287699180
At this point in time? Cornelius > Angelica > Brigitte > Damuel

Angelica will overtake Cornelius though.
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can't wait for the image issues.
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>>287699249
Brigitte would definitely be stronger than Angelica at this point of the story.
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>>287699294
Kek
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>>287699633
>passes out 3s later
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>>287699180
Aren't female knights a little too unrealistic? They lack the physical strength necessary
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>>287700175
As soldiers or battlefield warriors, yeah, their lesser stamina and strength would hold back whatever formation they were attached to. They'd be a weak link that could be exploited reliably and would never be able to stand up to a charge directed at them by male warriors.

But being a bodyguard is a bit different. Most of the job is just observation and preventative action. If an incident does occur and they need to protect Myne, all the female bodyguard has to do is give Myne to her male cohort to carry her to safety while she delays the enemy as long as possible. This doesn't require her to be stronger, faster, or have more stamina than the enemy, if she fights intelligently and focuses on stalling, rather than winning. Her objective is only to ensure Myne escapes unharmed.
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>>287700175
Not in the Honzuki world. They use mana strengthening, so an archnoble woman will always be stronger than a male mednoble assuming she's gone through knight courses.
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>>287700175
She's noble so she has magic, which evens things out quite a bit. Myne is an anemic little girl yet her magic makes her so powerful that only the strongest mage knights can subdue her if he goes berserk. A woman trained to fight with only a fraction of Myne's power would probably be equal to any regular male warrior at least, if not easily superior depending on the degree of her magical ability.
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>>287700175
Physical enchantment spells. That's what Rozemyne is enduring every day in order to walk normally (skipped in the anime).

Also their equipment and their attacks are magic-based, so you don't need high strength to wield a heavy armor or swing a heavy weapon. A stronger person may have an advantage in wrestling but there are very limited scenarios where it matters (sealed schtappe for example).

So yeah, MY MAGIC > YOUR MAGIC is the only measuring stick.
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>>287700175
>physical strength
parry this you noble fuck
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>>287700813
>skipped in the anime
nope, not yet at least, maybe next season
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>>287700813
That's P4.
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>>287700813
Rather sure she doesn't learn physical enhancement until later
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>>287692414
Wait, 2 months waiting for service installation? Did you get sent to a camp in siberia or something? Pretty much all computers have wifi built in these days, if yours is older just grab a usb-antenna-stick thingy for cheap. Then you can just turn a local hotspot on your phone on, and hook your PC up without any extra service cost. With 5G everywhere these days, you will get a better speed than 3rd-world wired services, like ADSLv2 or ISDN. Unless your mobile provider literally jews out on data, most plans out there, at least in europe, have enough xfer and speed to let you stream just fine. If you're downloading, even better.

>>287691201
I'm kinda shocked they completely skipped the medical examination this far into the season. I know it's studio vomit, but they just CAN'T skip the setup for the entire main overarching part of the story that is the yureve ingredient collection, can they?

Especially that what follows, sets up the entire not-hogwarts start, Myne's familiarity with military matters, monster fighting tactics, and more... they can't just go, "oh Myne, you're unhealthy and it's inconvenient, so lets fix that, jump in this magical bath I made for you"?
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>>287691923
She'll just tire herself out, pass out and get killed on the spot.
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>>287695696
Are you retarded? At this point in anime, she is canonically 23 and Ferdinand is canonically 20. This ep was full of scenes where her fujoshi side was showing clearly.
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This has turned into such a shitshow.
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>>287701540
The examination is likely gonna be brought up when they go for the first ingridient.
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>>287700813
Until THAT happens.
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>bullying a 7 year old girl
Why is Ferdinando like this
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>>287702295
>tsundere
It's because he wants to fuck her.
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>>287702295
Remember he did the memory dive.
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Reminder that Myne is older than Ferdinand.
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>>287702295
He knows that Myne is a reincarnated hag. He has no mercy
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she is literally a gnome
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>>287702036
Source?
I knew shortness was associated with high estrogen and thus fertility:
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC2584807/
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>>287702797
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/ajhb.22252
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if all the mana myne has is what's stunting her growth then why aren't all the other high-mana nobles super fucking short?
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>>287702906
Her condition will be explained in this season.
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>>287702906
Myne is special
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>>287702906
They take super male vitality pills.
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let her read a book...
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this could have been good if they gave it more time like Apothecary Diaries
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>>287703180
apothecary got away with it because the mystery subplots fit well with the episodic format
i dont think japan has faith in viewer attention spans to slow things down for bookworm
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>>287703180
I did not like that.
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>>287702906
They all be using magic tools which are super expensive because core ingredients are feystones, and sufficient quality ones come from dangerous faybeasts.

Also, a child usually needs not just its own tool but also a supply of feystones to be used with it to store mana, and since a lot of mana is needed for schtappe or highbeast, low-mana laynoble kids tend to spend their entire childhoods collecting mana.

Needless to say, some leynoble houses may not be able to afford supporting more than one child in a decade or so.
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>>287703508
Isn't that right? You just can't stop poking her cheeks. And if she makes funny sounds while you're at it, the better!
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>>287701540
>Wait, 2 months waiting for service installation? Did you get sent to a camp in siberia or something? Pretty much all computers have wifi built in these days, if yours is older just grab a usb-antenna-stick thingy for cheap. Then you can just turn a local hotspot on your phone on, and hook your PC up without any extra service cost. With 5G everywhere these days, you will get a better speed than 3rd-world wired services, like ADSLv2 or ISDN. Unless your mobile provider literally jews out on data, most plans out there, at least in europe, have enough xfer and speed to let you stream just fine. If you're downloading, even better.
i have a 250gb plan on my phone (and currently tethering through usb) but torrent is filtered on its network which fucking sucks, man
and yeah, i have been waiting to months for the fiber installation, i don't know what the fuck they are doing, where i live there are two infrastructure provides (open fiber and fibercop) and they both reach my apartment, i keep calling them and they just tell me that the provider is verifying the availability of the network, nothing concrete. the wait is hell
for now i've joined the group the other anon told me for the eps
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>>287703609
you can also use animetosho
it uploads new episodes on a few file hosting websites
and it will begin shutting down permanently in May T^T
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>>287703609
Give torrents via i2p or Tribler a shot. Might work for you.
You could also download using an emoticon ecksdee.
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>>287703609
You can find direct downloads for pretty much everything.
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Ahem: FUCK MAGIC and FUCK NOBLES.
Thank you for your time.
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having myne change from "it's easier for me to blackmail damuel to keep him quiet" in the ln to "nobody would miss damuel if i disappeared his ass" in the anime is a pretty big change
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>>287697952
We had the grooming and sexual exploitation of a literal 8yo back in Season 2, doing it to Ferdinand is tame by comparison.
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>>287704813
I like Ferdinand more so this is worse, poor innocent guy.
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>>287705454
He would have been disinherited as soon as he made a fool out of himself during his debut. Sylvester is too soft but even he couldn't have salvaged that.
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Seeing as Agents of the Four Seasons didn't sell well / became a highly acclaimed show, could we get that same production team for Part 4? Especially since the producer emphasized their greed for part 4
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>>287704541
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>>287704541
They’re not doing anything horrible right now, except saying that poor town stinks.
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>>287703508
You and every noble
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I fucking hate Wilfried and I hate Sylvester. Them both dying would be awesome.
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>>287707031
>too pathetic to hate
>too perfect and has never done a single thing wrong
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More physical manga volumes from Parts 2 and 3 when?
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>>287704542
crime lord
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>>287707731
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>>287707745
>PeePee goes here
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>>287704542
It's a degree nicer way to say it while getting the same point across when she says, "If it happens we can deal with it easier."
>>287707730
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Time to pimp out her mans image to noble ladies to raise funds.
Her fake fancy laugh is funny.
The old bag maid is great. Just lays down the verbal beating.
Booknied.
Pandabus time? I was quite excited to see how this will be animated.
Guess no pandabus quite yet.
Booknied twice.
This brat again.
Booknied thrice.
The greed is taking her.
Another fun episode.
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>>287703508
>Small Myne has the absolute cutest cheeks.
Yeah it's a nice ass.
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>>287707823
I do like her light-ojou laugh she busts out for the noble events.
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>>287707731
>>287707745
>>287707797
I'm gonna do it!
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>>287708125
!!!!!!
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>>287708161
Lucky priest.
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Is it me getting jaded or Myne inventing whatever isn't as exciting as before?
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>>287708259
Have you seen what they are trading in the restricted underground exchange? They just invented hentai.
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>>287708259
This wax paper process is the most in depth she’s gone this season, and is pretty much the first thing other than the selling soft bread, soup, and shampoo to nobles, so I’m curious if they go more into her solving that printing method.
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>>287708295
They're friends...
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>>287708295
He’s her support plushie
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>leading him on just to betray
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>>287691921
I thought there would be a bigger deal with Myne doing something supposedly impossible in front of Ferdidynand but no...
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>>287708360
used goods
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>>287708376
That was odd but maybe that’ll be brought back up later.
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>>287707031
>t.Georgine
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>>287708376
He has more of a reaction in the LN. She does it later in the series again and all her noble retainers start freaking out.
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>>287702518
> a fucking fumo
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>>287708360
I want a Tuuli support plushie.
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>>287708390
>this is an adult woman
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>>287691100
I guess it was inevitable even with the upgrade in quality, but it feels as though the story is still rushing through scenes crazy fast + cutting a bunch of others.

I was kinda hoping the new direction the series was taking would mean that the pacing would slow down a bit.
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How much does Rozemyne appear in the spin-off?
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>>287709505
>>287694383
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>>287691692
20% He's been vital with keeping Ehrenfest running with any degree of stability + 80% He's very pretty and has a nice voice.
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>>287709517
not much
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>>287691781
She thinks of him like how women IRL think of idols, its an 'appreciate but dont touch' kind of thing.

Also she and Karstedt just have a political marriage going at this point.
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>>287692965
Its not even a 'nobles aren't clear about what they mean' thing, its just a 'wilfried is uneducated and prideful so he just says whatever and expects everyone to understand him' since no ones ever argued back before.
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>>287699249
At this point Brigitte would fucking destroy Angelica.
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>>287700175
In a world where magic strength enhancing exists, its not an issue. As long as you've got enough magic to go through the academy + decent physical health, you can be a knight.
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>>287702440
Honestly given that he did the memory dive its actually a bit weird how much he treats Myne like a child, even in the LN's. At least when they're alone you'd expect him to talk a bit more normally but he still often sounds like he's coddling her.
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>>287709725
She is sickly and looks like a child.
She can talk but doing anything extra carries risk to her life.
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>>287705454
He ruined his own life by being a fucking idiot. Rozemyne literally saved him from being disowned but he still went and believed Veronica/her followers bullshit without any shred of doubt until his own parents had to tell him that he was completely wrong.
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>>287709759
I don't mean him being worried for her condition, that much is justified, moreso just that even when they're alone he often talks to her like she's a regular 8 year old + doesn't call her shit when she's whining like one, even though she's technically older that he is.
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>>287709807
I'm pretty sure it's been said that her guardians actually prefer if she acts like a child outside of work.
Mostly because her looks, though I think that's Part 4 stuff.
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>>287709725
He's just treating her like a woman, it's normal considering how dumb she is.
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How far do you think they'll get through this part at the pace they're going?
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>>287710116
2 cours, all of it
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>>287710132
damn, that'd be a mess
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>>287705454
It's all Veronica's fault. Charlotte also grew up in Myne's shadow, but it made her a competent person as a result.
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ohohoho honloli pimps her husband out for money!
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>>287710436
it's for honmoney so it's fine
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>>287698453
Unless they put it somewhere else it didn't, we skipped over where it was in the manga.
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>>287704541
Sasuga heimin.
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>>287705454
Yes, the too-smart and too-pretty should be forcibly dragged down and enshittified.
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>>287707031
Chill out, Georgine. Just, enjoy your life as the first wife in a greater dutchy, won't you? Pick a fight with the future avatar of a literal Goddess and you will get offed like a dirty heimin, and you don't want that, do you.
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>>287705454
His BELOVED grandmother ruined his life.
Do you think he will ever accept the idea that his BELOVED grandmother is raising him to be a puppet?
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LNFags when is H5Y volume 3 coming out in english?
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Does Myne ever get physically intimate with men?
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>>287713760
Ferdinand used her as a board to draw.
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>>287713760
She does allow other men to insert their mana into her book.
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>check goddess
>part 5 vol 9-12 missing
Any idea where to find them?
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>>287713817
What the heck is goddess
Everything is in
>server.el
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>>287713852
Nice, thanks anon.
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>>287713817
everything is in nyaa
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>>287705454
They could have just tossed him in the tower. Rozemyne gave the little shit way more chances than he deserved.
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Once Rozemyne write off someone, she never walks back on it.
>Frieda
Despite becoming one of the most important people in her business, Rozemyne never regard her as anything beyond a colleague.
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>>287714350
Because Frieda makes it pretty obvious even early on that she's got business brain and thats 90% of the reason she wants to stay close to Myne, it only becomes even more clear after Myne gets adopted into the nobility.

Frieda is friendly but she doesn't really come across as someone who wants to be Mynes friend, she's just trying to stay on her good side in order to make a bajillion dollars off her ideas. Unlike Benno, who also wants to make a bajillion dollars off her ideas but also still cares about Myne as a person.
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>meets a poor young girl her age, also on the verge of death, but without any perspectives other than surrendering herself to the temple
>she permanently cuts ties with her due to jewishness
>said girl goes on to become a fully fledged archnoble, archduke candidate, archduchess, goddess avatar with the queen as her mana slave, with more money she could ever dream of
>meanwhile you are forever an emaciated heimin laynoble cumdumpster fighting for scraps from bottom tier nobility
Does Frieda experience the greatest in-universe mogging in the series?
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>>287714955
Doesn't she just end up as a mistress to Damuels brother? She had better options for adoption given her amount of mana but she wanted to be a merchant no matter what so she had to 'settle' for that.

Though she'll still be living a much better life most commoners.
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>>287714955
I think it was supposed to be Myne, Frieda and Tuuli making the books and then Frieda got cucked out of her role when Kazuki decided there was a lot of grunt work so it needed a boy.
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>>287715008
>Doesn't she just end up as a mistress to Damuels brother?
That is what I said, yes.
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>>287715029
Being a mistress to a laynoble who's nice to commoners ain't a bad lot in life. Plus again, she chose that rather than higher adoption offers just because she wants to still be allowed to do merchant shit.
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>>287714955
Author did not know what to do with Frieda so she got left behind. Frieda is genuinely one of the smartest people in the series. It would shift the focus from Myne retardedness.
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>>287715452
Myne already had the merchant side of things covered with Benno and Lutz and that whole mess, didn't need Frieda and her grandfather muscling in any more than they had already.
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>>287715452
She doesn't do anything to deserve this praise.
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>>287715684
she talked the same mercantile talk as the grandpa at 7 years old. she was a bundle of potential
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>>287715704
she did what she as trained to do? shocking.
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>>287715734
as shocking as any generational advantage. doesn't change the fact she was raised to be smart and turned out smart, able to do smart things that deserve praise.
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>>287715864
Yeah I think you missed the point. Look at Myne, she is at least on the list if not near the top of it, for dumbest people in this story. That didn't stop her from learning a bunch of things and accomplishing all the stuff.
You are not even using the word smart correctly here, you can't raise someone to be smart it's something you are born with.
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>>287715963
>you can't raise someone to be smart it's something you are born with
genes, environment (good nutrition), then encouraging the child to think. without those smarts won't blossom.
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>>287716316
Yeah if I physically remove a chunk of your frontal lobe you will become dumber. You can do things to prevent someone from reaching their potential, but that potential is absolutely set in stone and cannot be raised even one millimeter.
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>>287713697
Fine: I want to do many things to Tuuli. There, I said it.
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>>287715452
Not really.
Frieda was a merchant by choice.
She viewed nobles as a sort of dangerous monsters - not wild like feybeasts, perhaps possible to negotiate with, but still capable of going bonkers for whatever reason and killing you on the spot, be it for actual or imagined slight.
For Frieda, having mana and needing to contract with a noble was a misfortune she'd rather avoid. Even assuming it was possible and somehow she'd be given a chance to follow in Myne's footsteps, she'd likely refuse because nobles "don't do" trade.
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>>287713697
it
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>>287705454
wilfried was only given the chance to fuck up and do the crimes later because rozemyne actually fixed his education in time for his debut, if it wasn't for her he'd have been disinherited at age 7. and she's the one that saves him from being not literally executed when its what he deserves by law
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>>287718593
Is living as a cuck really better than dying?
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shit filler episode, will it get better?
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Look at how smoll she is, no wonder she gets mistaken for a talking puppet
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I can't believe Lutz got sold off
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>>287719512
in the studio's eyes the entire season is filler to get to the academy
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>>287714955
>permanently cuts ties with her
When was this?
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>>287720554
How many books did it cost to buy a Lutz?
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>>287721235
Zero. Myne wouldn't spend books to buy anything.
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>>287693715
I think he's pretty much stuck in the Ferdinand situation where he's surrounded by manalets and too low down the social ladder to attract a high mana baby factory. Although his grandpa made it work somehow so who knows, maybe he'll get a cute high noble wife. It's hard to measure the mana capacities of the characters, but he should be pretty high thanks to all the boosts he got from Rozemyne.
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>>287691923
She prefers getting choked herself
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>>287722330
I heard she lets strange men into her secret room.
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>>287723020
why does ferd let her cuck him out of scolding?
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>>287721554
he has high mana but horrible status, he's not considered an aub/aub candidate despite having the mana, which means all potential wives would have to completely fuck their status to marry him
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>>287724467
He just needs to wait for a young Ehrenfest archnoble with Rozemyne-compressed mana to graduate
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>>287723767
And hugs
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>>287724467
High mana family members jumping up the social ladder isn't that uncommon in the universe, so it's not too far fetched for him to find some relatively high mana archnoble girl. Having a lot of mana is still desirable, so he's not that bad of a catch as long as she's not giving up aub status or some shit.
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>>287725698
he still has a shitty stigma and in a lot fo ways hes still retarded, a lot of stuff needs to happen for him to get a good ending and so far from all the tld material hes still a bad catch
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>>287725502
now now, in the moment he never said he liked the hugs, but he enjoyed scolding
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>>287726003
It's not like I like hugs or anything baka
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Was Myne a yaoi or smut fujo? Why does she love books so much?
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>>287726235
She will read anything.
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>>287694450
>>287694384
Yeah that is one of the more significant translation choices I made in terms of diverging from the source material; I don't blame anyone for disliking it though. There is indeed a loss of formality and distance which is pretty real. However, the problem is that there is is TOO MUCH formality and distance with "Lord" by my measure. "-sama" is far more casual and common in Japanese than "Lord" is in English, so Lord Ferdinand comes off as actually way more formal and distant than Ferdinand-sama does. I rolled it around in my head for awhile and tried out some passages with Lord Ferdinand, but I determined that it would have a serious chilling effect on their relationship across the series. It would make it sound like she cared less and was less close to him than intended, which is potentially fatal. Therefore I thought it was better to potentially over-correct in the opposite direction and have them sound "too close." There's a few times where this has dire consequences (notably when she drops the -sama at the end of the series) but I think overall it makes the series much more readable and immersive. "Ferdinand you meanie" may sound poor to you, but imagine 20+ books of "Lord Ferdinand" being used literally thousands of times in close and private moments; not so good. That's just my opinion though. Everyone should read the Japanese instead if they can.
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she should just call him Master instead.
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>>287727363
alright man, i do grant you lord would be worse than nothing. and if the author saw it and put her subjective taikoban on it that is that.
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>>287727678
I don't like that thing.
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>>287727363
Honestly feels like one of the few times a translation should stick with japanese honorifics even if they don't mesh entirely with the setting. It's not the end of the world to have one of those honorific guides at the end of each book.
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>>287729959
No thanks
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>>287729959
Why would you say "one of the few times"? If Bookworm is a series which should have honorifics, then every single series should have honorifics. Which is a fair enough opinion). Bookworm's entire naming schema comes from German and European names, as does the terminology; being 99% German and then throwing honorifics into the mix would be significantly worse than most series. I would imagine it is literally one of if not the worst Japanese series to retain honorifics for. It's not about whether people understand the honorifics or them needing a guide; it's about the dissonance of a bunch of German names and German titles being followed by Japanese honorifics.
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>>287730126
if a nip author takes the german language, breeds from it non existent frankenstein names based on vibe, AND puts -sama at the end, it's only fair we should be doing the same in her image.
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>>287730217
It's actually not dissonant in Japanese since, naturally, everyone is talking in Japanese and the German names don't sound German at all. Japanese people view the names as nonsense that's hard to say rather than European names. Therefore it's not really the case that "the JP is crazy, so the ENG should be crazy too." In JP it's not crazy at all. (Of course, this is not to critique the very idea of using honorifics; there will always be people who want honorifics in any given thing and that's a fruitless battle to fight. I just mean it's not like Bookworm in Japanese is some discordant nightmare of mixed messaging, it's all just Japanese and harder-to-read Japanese to them.)
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>>287730126
Its not usually THAT necessary, especially for works set in the modern day and/or about a bunch of younger kids or whatever, you can translate it to english without worrying too much about honorific importance.

But in a historical fantasy setting where characters DO need to constantly show certain levels of respect in how they talk to others, its just easier to keep in honorifics since dropping them makes things seem too informal, while using "lord" and "lady" in basically every sentence would feel really stiff and distancing in comparison.
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>>287730524
Chill out unc
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>>287730524
Well, there's plenty of English novel series where levels of respect are important. You can point to like New York Mafia culture for modern examples, and historically obviously in like Feudal times you had to show proper respect according to the tiers. What one should conclude is not "you need to leave in Japanese honorifics, they're the only way to show levels of respect," it's that, at most, the translator wasn't creative enough.

In terms of precisely conveying the exact same level of respect, well, a translation is broadly never going to convey "precisely the same" thing in most cases, so that's a separate issue. Like even for things like talking to family members in the modern day it can be tough to get "the exact same" due to differing cultures and nuances to words, honorifics aside. Furthermore, its not like, for example, the honorific is the be-all end-all of respect in speech and mannerisms; every word of every sentence contributes. Therefore, in the case of Ferdinand-sama vs Lord Ferdinand, it's not like the choice is between "honorifics and the correct exact level of respect, or no-honorifics and an incorrect level of respect." A bookworm TL could use Ferdinand-sama and such and still get the level of respect wrong in all sorts of subtle and nuanced ways simply because that's how translation is.
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This serie is aparently super popular, so the author has not talked about writing a sequel ? i really wanted to know the main reason Myne was send to that world.
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>>287730753
Her best friend cursed her actually
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>>287730753
Maybe she'll write a sequel and explain it after H5Y ends
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>>287730298
>In JP it's not crazy at all.
so we seem to agree it doesn't 'feel' crazy to them, but you could also agree they 'are' fucking up language.
my half-serious point is that since at that point the outcome is a mix of languages, none being pure in the presence of the other*, the whole naming scheme can be thought of as its own fantasy language affair, acknowledged to express formality and distance most aptly put by slapping -sama at the end.
and i'm glad you're well equipped to acknowledge that how exactly you adapt this pidgin to english is arbitrary, and honorifics are an artistic decision not some hard law.
*i mean, it is pure japanese with inserts of weird katakana names, but if you grant me that putting katakana like that in the same sentence as 和語 or 漢語 is an insertion of foreign elements, then you should also agree 'dietlinde' is a frankenstein and equate them at least on an abstract level.
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>>287725698
they're still resigning themselves to be the wife of a rural giebe
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>>287730956
>the whole naming scheme can be thought of as its own fantasy language affair,
If we want to think of it as a fantasy language affair, the next step should be to make fantasy language in English and invent new honorifics (or take them from German or what have you), rather than use Japanese honorifics. Because when people read Japanese honorifics they will think "weird, this Japanese sure clashes with everything else. I guess the translation sucks." not "wow, what a whimsical fantasy language experience I am having right now."
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>bought the night lovel to read
>got volume 2 in the mail today
>volume 1 tomes comorrow
Sad
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>hey old man come take a shower with me
seriously why is she such a slut?
did her parents just raise her wrong I don't understand
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>>287731138
i mean if most people wouldn't like it, you must write what they prefer.
>>287731139
also talent to make tons of people work for no wage yet with high enthusiasm.
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>>287731005
I forgot, wasn't he also training to succeed bonifantus? Being the wife of giebe is not bad considering most nobles don't even have any land, and she'd be getting the aub bloodline, hence a pretty good chance of her kids marrying into the aub family down the line.
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Wasn't Benno in love with Myne in the second season or I am remembering something wrong?
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>>287731324
Yeah she is his goddess, it's a sexual euphemism.
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>>287731282
>i mean if most people wouldn't like it, you must write what they prefer.
That's actually not what I meant though I see why it was interpreted that way. My bad. I mean in terms of intention, like if our idea is, "Okay, we should think of this as a fantasy language affair, and play into that," then using Japanese honorifics would actually be counter-productive because it sticks out as a fundamental artifact of translation, not a factor of the fantasy language. In terms of conveying a whimsical fantasy language affair then one would want to make up English/German words to suit it because then it will be internally consistent while conveying the whimsy. How much people like it or not is not a factor. Once you choose your intention and try to follow through whether people like it or not is secondary to whether you were successful or not. And I just mean I don't think that would be successful. It's like easy to say "hey, just leave honorifics in, how fantasy language whimsical just like the original!" but in terms of how it will actually be interpreted and the actual impact on the language it would be counter-productive to whimsy. Sadly, it is very rare for the optimal choice in translation to be "don't translate something." (But it can be.)
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>>287731350
he's devoted to money, and that blue grun lays golden eggs
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>>287731318
Bonifantus gave up on him pretty quick.
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>>287731658
When was this?
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>>287731726
p5v5 prologue
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Apparently MHA is airing next week and eating our timeslot, so fuck us for wanting to see Lessy I guess.
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>>287732008
main will be spending next week collecting every little shard of that mount stone. it cost a small fortune
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>>287731816
Huh, alright. I had to switch to the WN in part 4 back when I read the series so no wonder I didn't remember that part. I never read the extra stories for part 5.
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>>287732008
This is fucking bullshit. My next saturday is unironically ruined.

Fucking... those fucking fucks...
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>>287732283
You should definitely read the LN it is like the opposite of re:zero where the wn is the first script and the LN is the first script plus more content. Especially part 5 v12 which gives so much more context than the wn.
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>>287691100
is just me or this looks AI generated?
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>>287731282
>also talent to make tons of people work for no wage yet with high enthusiasm.
I know you are trying to make a joke about
>they do it for free
but even the very first retainers that myne get are already getting benefits for doing their job, lets not even start once everyone realizes how good they have it later in the story
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>>287732008
What does that mean? Is the entire episode delayed by a few hours or is it pushed to next week?
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>>287733132
It's pushed back to the 9th, we just don't get an episode this week.
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>>287727363
I consider honorifics part of the cultural context, and good localization preserves it, not replaces it with something equivalent from the target culture. If someone wants to read a work of Japanese fiction literature, they should not complain about having to learn about all the different honorifics and what they express, especially that the base of it can be put on a single page, or even stored as external reference accessible via simple link. While I agree in general that a "perfectly proper" localization should not rely on foreign language "leftovers", in this singular case I believe the loss of context is too great to be ignored. The opposite approach leads down a slippery slope towards the cultural appropriation the likes of which we've just seen in YunYun Syndrome, and it all ends in fire. That said, for someone who's been idling on the border between a dekinai and dekiru for years, I probably should recognize my own fault for not working harder to cross it and just read the original.
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>>287730753
Read the novel HARDER, bro.

This is explained in a side story to volume ONE.

Motosu Urano's childhood friend, Shuu, exasperated by her bookworm ways, told her one day he hoped she would eventually be reincarnated in a world without any books at all.

"Be careful what you wish for, it may come true one day" they say. Whether it was a curse is up to the reader.
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>>287731218
Just a result of dying at 20 to wake in a body of a 6-year old that can barely move, and having to surrender to having a stranger old man, her new dad, strip her and wipe her down. A few years on, and she's still melded together with the girl that was Myne and died that fateful day, and she's still - at that point in story - stuck in that girl's stunted and childish body, and it's clearly affecting her mental state; she's prone to channel her inner child that every girl has.
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I want more of them. SSC3 can't come out soon enough.
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>>287735095
It feels to me like westerners attribute significantly more importance to honorifics relative to the rest of the language than they should. Here is a metaphor I thought up myself: imagine Japanese is a red brick wall, and a translator's job is to paint it yellow. There are 1,000 distinct bricks in this wall. The translator goes about painting, and when they're at 999 bricks painted, suddenly someone interjects like: wait! It's VERY important this singular brick is left red! And the painting translator goes, why is that? It's red, the same as everything else, and I'm painting it yellow. They go: No, you see, I always paid attention to this particular brick, and now it would really kill me to see it yellow instead of the proper red. So much color would be lost. The translator shrugs and leaves the 1 brick out of a 1000 red, just to satisfy them. The onlooker walks on, satisfied, ignoring all 999 other yellow bricks.

Now, this is a bit abstract, but here is my thought: if you fully know Japanese, then EVERY LINE of a translation will distort meaning and lose context. Japanese and English are just so fundamentally different as languages from such fundamentally different cultures that every single translation, no matter how good, is constantly losing and altering and diminishing cultural context. If Japanese were a wall, it would be like 1,000 distinct challenges which all get painted over. And honorifics are ONE of those. ONE brick in the wall. They are no more or less important than any of the other 999 bricks in the wall. Yet, people give it an extremely undue amount of attention. They could not care in the world about 999 of those bricks, but they devote extreme amounts of time and energy towards arguing for that 1 brick being preserved. Why? (1/2)
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>>287735095
>>287736280
Quite simply, honorifics are easily noticeable. They always come after names and they are easily heard in speech, not to mention often being left untranslated due to being very grammatically distinct. So even foreigners can pick them up quickly and have an approximate understanding of them. They "notice" them, basically, "and "noticing" is key to caring. Meanwhile, for someone fluent in Japanese to explain the other 999 bricks they would have to bust out textbooks, give speeches, perhaps even like hold literal classroom sessions to explain what is being lost and distorted. And let me tell you: If someone understood all those 999 bricks, they would be pissed. They would look at translations as fundamentally disgusting and untenable. And they would be right! If you care whatsoever about the "original text," "cultural context," blah blah, you should read the original text. And I'm not being flippant there or excusing bad translation. What I mean is that if you care so much about 1 brick being painted over yellow, you sure should fucking care about the other 999 bricks. And the only reason you don't is likely because you don't know about them, don't understand them, yada yada.

Simply put, if someone actually understands Japanese, honorifics would be pretty far down their list in terms of concerns. SOV to SVO, feminine/masculine speech, keigo, sentence enders, pronouns... The number of significantly more important FUNDAMENTAL elements of Japanese that get completely painted over and destroyed in translation is comically large. If someone understood they would be so horrified and disturbed they would never read a translation. That's why TRANSLATORs don't read translations if they can help it (mainly for J->E; not like Spanish -> English is so destructive). There's 1,000 bricks in this wall, not 1. And therefore I can't help but feel somewhat unmoved whenever I read such an impassioned and self-important post about the value of that 1 brick.
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>>287730753
Pretty sure there's a rumored part 6
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>>287736280
That's a terrible analogy. It's more like you have a brick wall and you're tasked with making a similar brick wall but your bricks are not the same as their bricks. Painting over the brick wall is "localization", erasing the fact that it was red to begin with because walls are yellow where you live.
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>>287736310
It's not a rumor. The author confirmed about a year ago that a sequel will be made, but it might be a while. And it won't be called part 6.
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>>287736299
Thus, to kind of summarize: It's hard for me to care that much about long speeches about honorifics. It just strikes me as being unfamiliar with the wall. For most works I don't mind tipping my hat to the demand of consumers and leaving 1 brick unpainted. If they don't care about the other 999 so be it. From my perspective it's like a steal; I get to do LESS work, AND people won't even be pissed about the other 999 bricks being painted? Hell yeah. For Bookworm, though, it's just a little more destructive to do so. For bookworm, it's kind of like if in addition to being a wall, there was a big sign saying "ALL-YELLOW WALL! COME HERE FOR THE FULLY YELLOW, FULLY PAINTED WALL!" And while I wouldn't so much mind leaving 1 brick unpainted, it might come off as especially unaesthetic and offputting to people wanting the advertised fully painted wall. (this is stretching the metaphor but that's ok.)
>>287736340
You can nitpick analogies forever. They are analogies because they are not the same thing as what's being described and one is attempting to relate it to another idea. If you're not interested in what I mean there's no value in replying at all. The same thing I meant can be imagined by saying "you have 999 similar bricks but someone asks for 1 brick of the original to be used instead of the similar brick" or whatever. The important part is the 999 vs the 1, not the act of painting.
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>>287736353
But translation is inherently about making dissimilar bricks look like similar walls. If you don't actually understand what a translation is then yeah we could never agree.
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>>287736474
You're getting caught up on "looking like similar walls." The disagreement is superficial. Consider this: "Words are bricks. Japanese has all X bricks. English has all Y bricks. A translator is tasked with shaping a wall of Y bricks to look like X bricks. But after placing 999 Y bricks, someone says they want this one specific X brick there..."

Obviously, the walls will never be totally indistinguishable. The words/bricks are different. It's just fundamental. Whether that is framed as paint or something else is immaterial to what I mean which is 1000 problems, 999 being solved one way, and 1 being solved the other way.
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>>287736530
The solutions are worse the the concessions 99.9% of the time. If it's just OCD that's not my problem but yours.
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>>287736561
No, I mean, if you handled every problem with "concessions," i.e. if you translated everything like how one wants honorifics to be left untranslated, then you would literally just be writing it in Japanese again. Languages are different. I guess, indeed, this is me kind of proving my point, that the 999 other problems are so complex and disguised that one would need to hold a language classroom to convey them, since otherwise you're imagining "you can recreate Japanese in English perfectly if only you make concessions for honorifics and a few other things."
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As someone who has only read the Official TL of Bookworm LN/manga, the fan translation just feels uncultured to me.
I very much prefer the air of formality in the Official TL.
Also, I can't take Temple Head or House of Lords or any other terms that's stray too far from Official TL's glossary.
I still think Volheil is much better than Wolfaniels though.
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Bible-making with Rozemyne.
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>>287703180
Seeing the gap between this season and the last I would assume that has something to do with it.
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>>287736684
>I still think Volheil is much better than Wolfaniels though.
ヴォルヘニール
W/Vo - ru - he - nii -ru
You don't mind that the "niiru" / "niel" of the original term is just removed? It's literally coming from the words wolf and spaniel being combined (ヴォルフ + スパニエル -> ヴォルヘニール).
Perhaps a case where the words used to fuse together into a new word are too recognizable to English speakers so one prefers an unintelligible term instead.
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>>287736757
I just don't like the Wolf part. Too close to home.
>it's german
I don't know german. As far as I know, all the terms were fantasy language.
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>>287736806
>I don't know german. As far as I know, all the terms were fantasy language.
no no no.... this is the worst take to have of all of them. if it sounds like franken german, respect the franken german
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>>287736684
>I still think Volheil is much better than Wolfaniels though
This one is whatever compared to Quof's abomination that is "Flutrane".
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>>287736924
If I had known you would seethepost about it for years on 4chan I might have translated it differently. Would not have used umlauts ever though.
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>>287736971
And I will seethe about it for years to come
>Would not have used umlauts ever though
Even Fruhtrene is better.
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That's the reason why there's so many retrograde fics.
Kind Ferdinand is treasure.
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As a translator I think there's usually no harm in just leaving honorifics in as they provide a level of cultural nuance that most readers are comfortable with, plus people are more likely to complain if they're missing than if they're present. You can certainly make a case for translating them in works like this with non-Japanese settings, or if your target audience isn't likely to know what honorifics mean (i.e. if you're translating something that isn't meant for weebs), but at the end of the day no translation will ever be a perfect substitute for the reader being fluent in the original language and ideally having the lived experience of a native of that culture.

Wait are we not talking about honorifics anymore?
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>>287737028
Maybe. I like how Flutrane sounds and flows but it could be that Fruhtrene would be better. If this were 5 years ago and you were posting this I would probably double-check the word origin and decide that better matching the German word for spring is valuable. So it's not really worth anything but I'll say you're right and the seething is justified (if perhaps over-focused on a single term out of 1,000 in a 100,000 page series). Here's to more years brother.
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Is there any interest on Junior Bunko (Kids') version being translated?
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>>287737179
Would it be different? I would like the new illustrations inserted into the original though.
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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>287737216
No idea. I think it's good to have more Bookworm books.
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Bookworm crossover fics recs?
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>>287737294
>open ao3
>show only crossovers
>honzuki (series), honzuki (anime), honzuki (manga)
Why?
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>>287736924
this reads and sounds close to the source though anon. flutrene/fruhtrene would improve it but it's not night and day
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>>287737028
That's dumb, you are dumb.
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>>287737914
It is night and day. Flutrane sounds weird, does not resemble the original word, and couldn't be further away from the two German words that it was based on that actually have meaning.
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>>287738020
You must be an ESL.
Sorry but we are not speaking German here.
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>>287738073
That's how the author intended it. Kill yourself.
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>>287738020
>Flutrane sounds weird
>フリュートレーネ
it's as is... just missing an umlaut, but that is a low bar for the reader in terms of experience reading random german words here and there.
>couldn't be further away from the two German words
flu yes, trane as above
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My cat speaks german.
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>>287737246
Huh...
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>>287738266
Ferdinand is so lucky
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>>287738271
this but eops
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>FINALLY, the right way to translate honorifics!
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Something i find funny is that when Ferdinand gift Myne a bed everyone coments how that is innapropiate becayse that is typicvcally only lovers give each other, but then is Rozrmyne the one that gift Ferdinand one of those sofa/bed he tested in her workshop. Ferdinand reallyt does not give a fuck about some social conventions.
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>>287739061
But they are lovers, I don't see a problem.
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>>287738964
For me, it's to translate honzuki fanfics using AI, then while everyone else uses Lord/Lady, only Ferdinand get -sama.
>why
"What about your promise with the previous Aub Ehrenfest?! Weren't you the one who said it, Ferdinand-sama! 'I promised Father. That Sylvester would be Aub, and I would serve Ehrenfest as his aide.' You said 'I have no intention of breaking that final promise with my father.' Wasn't it because that promise was what you truly wanted to protect that you consented to marrying that foolish woman who looked just like Veronica, who abused you so relentlessly?!
What is truly important to you is that promise, and your Geduldh is Ehrenfest, isn't it?! It's not supposed to be me!!
It's because you said that, that I held back until the very end, swallowing the words 'I don't care about the royal order, please don't go to Ahrensbach!!'!"

>>287739061
Because it's just a bench.
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>>287691297
>This series should have been yuri
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i have ro admit i cried a little durinh this scene . It was cute and touching.
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>>287739389
I still think they should've inserted it in the scene instead of just the cover and back pages.
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>>287739434
The same could be said about all inserts. P5V7 and P5V8 are some of the worst examples, since they also straight up spoil some of the most climactic moments in the series.
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>>287739483
but think of the hype for wn readers in the pre order period
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>>287739483
I honestly thought there's going to be a timeskip.
Then, that scene happens and I was just, "THIS is what it means?!"
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>>287739483
>spoil
You were going to read it 14 times anyway.
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>>287739483
World Trigger also does that.
It took me embarrassingly long time to notice that the fragments were Jin's future sight that shows what happens in the volume.
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>>287739554
>Rereading mynez novel

Why ? reading it once was enough for me.
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>>287739618
>why
Because there's only so few things that can compare and re-reading it is still fun since it gets so dense after a certain point.
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>>287736730
Baby making



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