>Manga, anime and game publisher Kadokawa announced on May 14 that its board of directors has decided to oppose a proposal to remove Takeshi Natsuno from his current position as the company’s president and CEO (as spotted by GameBiz). >The proposal came from Oasis Japan Strategic Fund (owned by Hong Kong-based activist hedge fund Oasis Management Company, Kadokawa’s largest shareholder as of March 30, 2026), who argued that there are “serious issues with internal governance” in the company.>It cited several concerns, including what it perceives as Kadokawa having a “quantity over quality” approach to IP creation, a “failure to fully leverage global publishing capabilities despite owning Elden Ring developer FromSoftware,” and a steep decline in earnings per share during Natsuno’s appointment. The fund also raised concern about goodwill impairment at anime studio Doga Kobo (which Kadokawa acquired in July 2024) and losses suffered by the company following the 2024 cyberattack among others.>In response, Kadokawa’s board of directors argued that much of the criticism does not reflect the company’s actual circumstances or is outright false (particularly the “quantity over quality” claim). It judged that the proposal to remove Natsuno would be “inappropriate from the perspective of improving medium- to long-term corporate value.” https://automaton-media.com/en/news/kadokawa-opposes-activist-shareholders-proposal-to-remove-current-president-and-ceo/
>>288121307>“failure to fully leverage global publishing capabilities despite owning Elden Ring developer FromSoftware,”Jesus christ, what?
>>288121307So what happens now? They take their ball and go home?
>>288121307>>>/biz/>>>/pol/
>>288121482not really considering how many mangas kadokawa have
>perspective of improving medium- to long-term corporate valueCool it with the antisemitism!
In case someone here doesn't know, nowadays an activist shareholder is a shareholder who invests in politically captured companies to make them apolitical and therefore earn more money
>>288121307Sadly this means nothing becuase Shareholders, FOR SOME REASON, can still remove a CEO even if the CEO has majority Shares
>>288121793they can but they need to convice the director board of the company
>>288121749And then everyone claps
>>288121307>>288121354>>288121366Ceo is a wef member.
>>288121307lol good luck dealing with Japanese autism
>>288121816Disney got one of those and Pixar became a bit more apolitical. They rewrote the movie Elio to make the child protagonist straight, and removed a trans character from an animated series
>>288121886problem the shareholder just want to replace for another wef member>>288121908not all of them behave the same, i don't trust anything coming from hong kong for example
>>288121307>particularly the “quantity over quality” claimlmao even
>>288121307>much of the criticism does not reflect the company’s actual circumstances or is outright false (particularly the “quantity over quality” claim)Literally fucking anyone who reads light novels knows how true this is. The amount of absolute garbage being picked up from Narō and peddled by Kadokawa is fucking staggering. The fact that any of these soulless suits could possibly say otherwise if laughable as hell. There isn't a single major publisher in Japan shoveling as much slop onto the market as Kadokawa. I don't trust the a bunch of activist investor chinks to do any better, but there are very obviously real leadership issues within that company.
>>288121482>news regarding one of the biggest publishers of manga and light novels in Japan>not relevant to /a/Fucking kill yourself.
>>288121934This isn't making those pieces of media more "apolitical", it's just removing things that make rightoids seethe. There's nothing political about the existence of gay people. But pretending that they don't by disallowing their existence in media is overtly political.
>changs: you're too focused on quantity over quality!>same fucking changs: why aren't you flooding the world with elden ring content!?Foreigners should not be allowed any stake in Japanese companies.
>>288121366It means that its not going to stop there, that shareholder is going to poison the company and slowly but surely he will get what he wants and Kadokawa is going to bend the knee.
>>288121307Calling oligarch CEOs "activists" is an insult to real activism. We need to dust off the slogan that Occupy Wall Street used to describe tokenism and virtue signaling from corporations and Hollywood elites. They called them "rainbow capitalists." Stop calling these people activists. They're not real activists. Anyone who calls these leeches "activists" is only doing so to discredit real activism and manufacture culture war ragebait to keep the people divided, and thus, easy to conquer. Refer to them as the disingenuous frauds they really are.
>>288122175ER has a manga, had a DLC, had a spin-off game, has a upcoming show, and has some mobile game that no one has seen since its announcement. What do these idiots want?
>>288122205You're wasting your time trying to reclaim the word "activist". That ship is long gone
>>288122117You can't claim that disallowing their existence is overly political while claiming that their existence is not
>>288122117retard.
Who would the replacement be if they gave the go ahead
>>288122237Elden Ring mobile game as a service.
>>288122286Probably somebody that the glorious CCP agrees upon.
lel they just dropped this
>>288122205you might be retarded
>>288122314
>>288122339
>>288122357
>>288122314>Ruth Marie Jarman
>>288122314Japanese women among directors? I thought old men don't allow it?
>>288122408True
>>288122314>25 percent of board members are womenIt's over...
>>288122408???
>>288122405Probably some control fuckery like it's actually her husband actually calling the shots.>>288122437>Anon finds out that politics is complex and schizophrenicIt's basically like those racist faggots and such.
>>288122339This Mitsubishi guy seems alright
>>288122339>>288122357>>288122374>It cited several concerns, including what it perceives as Kadokawa having a “quantity over quality” approach to IP creationfella gets his Chief Publishing Officer position taken away>a “failure to fully leverage global publishing capabilities despite owning Elden Ring developer FromSoftware,”fella stays Chief Global Officer>The fund also raised concern about goodwill impairment at anime studio Doga Kobo (which Kadokawa acquired in July 2024) and losses suffered by the company following the 2024 cyberattack among others.fella goes from Chief Studio Officer to Corporate Officer, Studio Businessso they got partially some change from this
Grok, check the Oasis leader Early Life section
>>288122500>>288122554>ITT:tourists scum
>>288122339>chief anime officer
>>288122304Then they should get that Chinese developer at making the stupid thing hurry up, or just cancel it. That game has been MIA for over 5 years.
>>288122600/pol/filth and COVID tourists have no idea how deeply ingrained faggotry, lesbianism, and all forms of queerness are within the fabric of otaku media. They're the same breed of retard that would unironically claim that Ranma 1/2 is the result of Western influence because they're too ignorant to know how old that manga actually is. Tezuka was a huge fan of Takarazuka Revue, which is just about the gayest thing in all of Japan.
>>288121307>It cited several concerns, including what it perceives as Kadokawa having a “quantity over quality” approach to IP creationEven the majority shareholders are shit talking Kadokawa's monopoly on animation studios. it's fucking hilarious. Even if for opposite reasons.
>>288122490I wish Dogakobo went back to making CGDCT shows and weren't stuck in oshi slop.
>>288121366Kadokawa took the poison pill, which in this case is Chinese money. This incident is just China showing its hand. They want to own Kadokawa, so now they're going to destroy the company from within using the financial leverage they have over it, then acquire it when it's nearly worthless.This stunt wasn't a serious attempt to remove the CEO because obviously it would fail. It was a statement of intent.
>>288122314>>288122357>I'm not fucking leaving
>>288122175You really want to defend the isekai production mill?
>>288122947No fucking wonder to why there's a lot Isekai and other Narou titles. This is absolutely fucked up the Japanese government is gonna get involved to go after these Chinese firms.
There's Zhao in this thread
>>288121307it's all capitalist bullshit. no matter who wins, the people lose
Not surprising. Seeing a bunch of Japanese people talking about Kadokawa’s financial report and the comments/observations they’ve made on Kadokawa. So the targeting of the CEO seems valid. Sounds like the publishing side is a shit house. They don’t seem to be mentioning FromSoftware at all.>Over reliance on Narou series and Isekai novels has led to them struggling to create new hits, instead other publishers have started to pull ahead.>Overlaps financial statement mentions Narou novels are as strong as ever so Kadokawa doesn’t seem to be making decent choices when they do look at Narou series.>They’re asking over 45 year olds to voluntarily retire, meaning those with experience will be lost.>A lot of the editors at Kadokawa branches don’t stay for long and go to other publishers. Suggesting the benefits of their experience are being seen elsewhere.>Newbie award winners aren’t paying off long term at Kadokawa. Some question the validity of Kadokawa’s awards. Newbie writers are better submitting their works to other publishers awards.>Quantity over quality approach has led to Kadokawa as a brand being diminished. People no longer look at brands like Enterbrain and associate it with quality. >Multiple authors have spoken up about Kadokawa’s production team changing stuff in books without telling the original author.>Another author mentioned he submitted his novel to a Kadokawa contest and the feedback he got wasn’t great. He submitted the same novel to another publisher and it won. About a year after the second volume was published, a Kadokawa rep contacted him and asked why he never submitted the novel to them and that they really want something like it.
>>288121307The fact that this even exists speaks volumes of how bad it actually is in reality. Seeing stuff like this crop up in public papers is a very bad sign of what "behind the scenes" is actually like.
>>288121307>activist hedge fund Oasis Management CompanyWhat the fuck is an "activist hedge fund"
>>288123358this has nothing to do with capitalism though
>>288123512>other publishers have started to pull aheadWith what?Faggot shit?Most series I loved start from narou.
>>288123608do you not know what capital is?
>>288121307>having a “quantity over quality” approachThis is just retards seething at the kino that is the isekai genre.
>>288123617chinkshit or webtoon shit all have been tanking when they try to be their "own" market>>288123646its a public company therefore its socialism right?
>>288122636You spam that image any chance you get, don't you? You little autist.
>>288123512As expected they just got retarded opinions which boil down to>You didn't pick the work I liked which would be a guaranteed hit >You didn't pick my work which would be a guaranteed hit
>>288123512>>They’re asking over 45 year olds to voluntarily retire, meaning those with experience will be lost.Wait, why would they do this? I know nips have shady practices with that but why boot 45 year olds?
>>288123839The quickest way to change the culture of a place is filling it with 'open-minded' youths.
It's kind of interesting how Elden Ring broke a bunch of brains across several companies just by selling a lot.
>>288122600Faggot.
>>288123839>>288123929Lol no, japan has strong legislation focused on protecting employers, so reducing someone's salary or firing someone who is under-performing for a long time is very hard and usually cost so much it's cheaper to keep them around, replacing them with young people is often just a way to cheapen things but more often than not a fantasy.
>>288121307>“quantity over quality” approach to IP creationThis is the type of shit they say when they actually mean, "stop making 5 mid budget projects and instead just make one super expensive project every 5-10 years" and then investors wonder why the company eats shit and dies after a single flop.
>>288124069Of course making 10 isekais every year is better because the company survives.
>>288124095Yes. Shotgunning mid budget series is a very durable and long-lasting development strategy.
>>288124155The company will develop after it produces 100 more isekais.
>>288124035They harass them until they "leave voluntarily on their own". It's not hard.
Their strategy is casting their net wide because people will at least try new things.>isekai is all the sameYou do you.
>>288124175People like those shows. They make money back, they don't require excessive risk, and they help maintain a good production throughput. Not everything will be an awards winner that people will remember in 10 years. But putting out stuff that people can watch while eating dinner without overthinking it and without putting too many eggs in one basket is entirely rational.
>>288124220It will help the company survive but not the medium.
>>288124095>>288124155If a single title is a hit it's enough for them to justify it, I can accept people saying Kadokawa's judgment and internal metrics have not been good lately, however it's like anon said a delusion to think quality actually beats quantity, all they will be doing is giving space for their competitors to grow and replace them.
>>288124252>giving space for their competitors to grow and replace themJust like how they're doing now?Read >>288123512
>>288124245>but not the mediumGet over yourself.
>>288124202Maybe but some of those disputes have famously lasted for decades, I remember a leak from a long time ago about Konami and how a lot of old time game developers were forced into all types of jobs, including security to harass them, to the high ups surprise they ended loving the jobs because programmer was already a shit job before.
>>288124245The medium is not at risk. Animation is more popular today than it ever has been.
>>288124272And what's their competitors doing?
>>288124298>ncluding security to harass them, to the high ups surprise they ended loving the jobs because programmer was already a shit job before.Hilarious. I mean you get to sit around and just watch your pals, maybe help out sometimes, Security isn't too bad.
>>288124292>no argument>>288124305So is Hollywood and cinema. But both are at the lowest level in quality they've ever been.
>>288121749>>288121908How is that apolitical? That is an expressly political decision.Are you retarded?
>>288124325>Hollywood and cinema>more popular today than it ever has beenLOL
>>288124272Those are actually different matters, yes they need to pursue new avenues of making money, but abandoning the market where they actually are strong is basically suicide.
>>288124342>films earning more than ever are not popular actually!!
>>288121307>Shareholders thinks they know best than the people that actually made the company big worked well with Toys R Us
>>288124360I never cared how much they make.There's only a few movies I watch in the last three years.
>>288124383The current CEO is leading the company to its downfall.The people who made the company big are not here.
>>288124355
>>288124402Just stating the facts
>>288124388>anecdotal evidenceHow would you feel if you didn't have breakfast this morning?
>>288122314>12 people>8% are not japanese
>>288121307Don't care, Kadokawa is still based because they finance Trash Taste, our favorite /a/ talk show.
>>288123512what the fuck is narou
>>288123608It's literally capitalism.
>>288124360A million people watching something with a population of 2 million is popular. 2 million people watching something with a population of 100 billion is unpopular. Raw numbers don't tell you what you need to know. And in the case of earnings it's even worse because in reality you have double the people, while money is worth less than half.
>>288124444Japanese ArchiveOfOurOwn, but with a stronger pipeline for adaptations.
>>288124453>what is audience as a percentage of world population?>what is adjusting for inflation?
>>288122314So what actually changed on the board, did they shuffle some members in and out of the board or was it just adding some 69 year old Mitsubishi executive to the existing board?
>>288124444A japanese site where anyone can publish their story.
>>288123617>>288123657Seems like they’re pointing more to other Japanese companies landing the hit series that aren’t isekai.>Apothecary Diaries >Angel Next Door>Too Many Losing Heroines>Chitose is in the Ramune BottleThe only reference to BL generally seems to be how it didn’t go unnoticed that the best selling BL novel in Japan recently, isn’t even a Japanese novel. It’s Heaven Official’s Blessing from China.
>>288122175I can buy shares in Kadokawa any time I want, thus giving me, a foreigner, a stake in your anime along with voting rights.But personally I'm aiming for Palantir next.
>>288124444One of the main websites for people to write webnovels that publishers could potentially release as a light novel. A lot of isekai trash comes from there.
>>288124520Only board change is Ayumi Uzawa retired, and is being replaced by Kouji Okura, the rest of the board is remaining the same.
>>288124155>Shotgunning mid budget seriesAs someone who binges shoelacers, I can assure you that what Kadokawa produces doesn't even remotely approach mid-budget.
>>288124609>Apothecary Diariesis from Narou.>Angel Next Door>Too Many Losing HeroinesOriginal LN.>ChitoseLN from award competitions.
>>288122304I genuinely think something like that was in development but was cancelled
>>288124400>The people who made the company big are not here.Seems like they’ve all left to start their own companies or join the smaller publishers.TO Books and Overlap have a number of pre 2010’s Kadokawa staff. A lot of Micro Magazine’s editors got their start at Kadokawa.
>>288124444where 90% of the isekai comes from
>>288123607In short, they invest in companies and then try to force changes for a quick profit. For this company for example, they saw some Japanese company had an art collection, and the guy running the Oasis hedge fund in question here wanted them to sell that art collection.
>>288124444Basically a self-publishing website for amateur novelists. Publishing companies trawl it and basically buy the rights to any naro story with a sufficiently large following regardless of quality or content. It's where Re: Zero came from, among others.Basically the model is to find a story with a big following and buy the rights, rerelease it as a light novel. The idea is that rather than buying the talent of the author, who is probably a talentless hack anyways, you buy their following. The followers follow the franchise, consume all the multimedia spinoffs and eventual anime adaptation. Either it spreads beyond that group and catches on, or it doesn't and fizzles out. Either way, the core audience you bought from Naro guarantees you break even, so you can do this as often and as quickly as you have editors to wrangle it.Naro is the reason that the industry has been absolutely inundated in derivative shlock over the past few years. At some point, every loser otaku in Japan realized that they too could become a big famous LN author with an anime adaptation and cosplay escorts if you get big on Naro. So naturally everyone, no matter their ideas or writing skills, flocks to it. If you don't have an original idea, you just read a few existing novels and mash their ideas together or pick one trope to "subvert" (but not really). Keep throwing the dice and hope you get lucky.A few years back there was a buzz in the industry as a bunch of editors started quitting one after another complaining that their job had basically just become wrangling NEET shutins from Naro and that to keep deadlines when their "author" ghosted them, they'd have to take over writing the novels themselves.
>>288124715>>288124703holy shit fucking stop
>>288124678>ER mobileYes, by Tencent.
Wasn’t Kadokawa pushing JNC into running English LN contests? Is the solution to their problems going to be publishing novels by burgers?
>>288124400still closer to the original CEOs than the shareholders
>>288124728>Tencentew
ZOMG. The President and CEO is so smart. The company is thriving!!
>>288124799>solutionThey just want more stories.
>>288124799In fairness, that kind of initiative is low risk, its low cost and you probably get nothing of value but if you luck out and get a workable it suddenly becomes quite profitable.
>>288124840Kadokawa probably needs some kind of shake up, but "solutions" being pushed by a foreign hedge fund that historically has cared about getting a quick payout is not going to be a good solution to Kadokawa's long term problems.
>>288124840Now prove that the Oasis Japan Strategic Fund can run it better
As long as kadokawa isn't being forced to release 100 chink or gookshit stories instead of their own nip isekai stories, nothing has changed.
>>288122989Isekaifags have no standards
>>288124900>>288124909>instant strawmanWhere did I say that they'll manage it better? They aren't demanding control either.I'm saying that insisting on the current CEO/President is not a viable strategy.
Clearly the solution is that Tencent and Kakao should acquire more of Kadokawa to fix this.Tencent currently has 7.97%Kakao currently has 8.44%
>>288124952Getting rid of the CEO at the behest of fucking shareholders is even less of a viable strategy.
>>288125030>behest of fucking shareholdersIf the CEO is clearly ruining the company, does it matter who is demanding the removal? If it does, I'm glad you're not running a company.
They need to invest more into AI. AI is the future of publishing, anime, and more.
>>288124958Kakao's situation is not much better.
>>288125054I'm really glad you aren't running one. changing a company entirely every time profits dip (not even a matter of not making back funds, just not giving the holders more yacht money) replacing the guy in charge with some rando who is probably going to either dip it more or grow the profits by lowering the quality of their products further
>>288125054I'm glad you know better than everyone. They should hire you.
>>288125104>replacing the guy in charge with some randoHoly retard drivel. They aren't proposing a replacement. The replacement would be decided by the board anyways.
>>288121307Anime has been garbage for a decade or more now, does really anyone that started watching anime in the 90s or early 00s give a fuck anymore because I sure don't. Just watch old anime, read manga and play lns, learn japanese too you lazy fucks. Anime nowadays is made for people with adhd and people with less than 80IQ and you can't prove me wrong.
>>288124952>They aren't demanding control either.Either they paid a massive sum to purchase a sizable part of a company they think is doing everything wrong to suggest that the company should change CEOs, or they have their own ideas about what they want Kadokawa to do.
Follow the money. Who is behind oasis management? Who is behind those behind them?
>>288125184Okay? Just replace the CEO with what the board thinks would be better for the company (without listening to Oasis), because the company is going down regardless of the observer.Why do retards think that CEOs should be above scrutiny?
>>288125223https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SECVGN4Bsgg
>>288121307Fuck Kadokawa. I've never hated a company more after the Kemono Friends incident, and it's obvious to everyone that they're fine with producing tons of garbage.
>>288125287Agree. Kodansha publishes the good shit.
>>288125287What happened?
>>288124326Giving what 99% of people want isn't political.
>>288125301kadokawa prefers to release re:zero instead of more kemono friends.
>>288125301not much, just the death of a budding billion dollar franchise
>>288124326It's more political to have it than not to have them, so in a scale it's still doing their goal
Mine won and produced nothing. Tatsuki lost and made weed. Kadokawa makes isekai.
>>288125226Kadokawa needs to take action, but it is generally harder to take proper long term action when dealing with a likely hostile party who bought a significant sake within the company to push for actions that likely would favor short term growth for an immediate return on investment over anything that would help Kadokawa's long term prospects.
>>288125354>generally harder to take proper long term action when dealing with a likely hostile partyHow much is long term? Would the company give you another chance if your actions led to -19% share plunge over 1 year?Again, why do the CEOs need to be above scrutiny?What actions are they taking for "long term prosperity" anyways besides doing the same old?
I'm not an investor, so I don't give a shit.
>>288122076You can get banned here for posting an anime-related image that one of jannies is not fond of, so I don't get your reaction.>>288121307It sounds like a fake drama, to be honest. I read somewhere that Kadokawa fares really well (as you'd expect), so activist shareholder's opinion can be flushed in a toilet. Especially if we take into consideration what kind of job those people have and compare it to the company's president or even its CEO.
>>288124840Is it going to bankrupt the company?if no, then I don't care
Maybe Zamasu was right
>>288125465>I don't care if the company keeps producing the same isekai over and over, making less and less profits, and eventually going bankruptI know. You're on /a/ after all.
>>288125226>>288125410NTAI think you are missing the point. Kadokawa is a public trading company, the CEO is not the boss unless the CEO owns most of the company's own stocks. What the Anon is trying to explain to you is that the shareholders are the real bosses and that public trading companies can be taken over by an outsider just by buying it all up and playing the office politics game. Scrutiny of a CEO's competence is just a pretext and that there is an ulterior motive behind the assertion.
>>288125499all the CEO needs to do is know that the isekai well is now dry and move on, no need to replace>b-but muh profits!
>>288124840>>288124900>>288125465Kadokawa's solution is to cater to foreign audiences btw. That's why there's that other bait thread with the indian artist earlier. Recently they've been making contests for gaijin artists and writers.
>>288125524>all the CEO needs to do is [...] move on2 more weeks I guess? These guys never change their strategy until their positions are threatened.After this shit, he may incorporate the advice offered, which is a good thing. But if you believe he will, I have a bridge in Miami to sell.
>>288125458Just because some jannies are shit sometimes doesn't mean the this thread isn't extremely relevant to the otaku media that this board exists to discuss.
>>288125410I do agree the CEO should go, but I also think that figuring out the best path forward with the immense pressure from a shareholder who just recently bought up a bunch of stock to push their own plans is going to make the process of doing what Kadokawa needs to do for Kadokawa much harder.
>>288125566>immense pressure from a shareholderDoes rejecting their advice remove that pressure? How do you know they won't just buy more shares and demand the same thing again?
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>>288125544Wasn’t the Kadokawa president pro censorship if it meant they could release products globally and get them onto digital stores.
>>288125608The CEO (when he was appointed) was instantly talking about censorship, saying that many manga wouldn't meet Google or Apple standards.It's only after public backlash and his position being threatened that he "rolled back" his statement.These CEO defenders on /a/ are just bootlickers.https://japantoday.com/category/features/lifestyle/kadokawa-president-apologizes-and-takes-pay-cut-for-his-comments-about-censoring-manga
>>288125652nobody likes the CEO. people here just hate outsiders more, no matter where they are and what they're doing.
>>288125608>>288125652now that's an actual argument should've just opened with that
>>288125524>all the CEO needs to do is know that the isekai well is now dry and move onThey just follow whatever trends are relevant an Narō and pick series up for publication based on that. Isekai isn't popular because of Kadokawa pushing it. It's popular because it's what people on Narō are writing and reading. Kadokawa just havests the popular works from that site to profit of off that popularity. As isekai wanes and new trends rise, Kadokawa picks those up and publishes them as well. They hopped on the shoelacer bandwagon, the villainess bandwagon, the revenge slop bandwagon, etc. And they'll keep doing so because that's how the acquire properties that they hope will grow large enough to generate greater profit through manga and anime adaptations, merchandise, and—if they're really fucking lucky and the series pops off hard enough—gachabux. I bet they're still kicking themselves for not landing Kagejitsu because even though Daisuke barely fucking writes anymore and the anime isn't particularly big, the gacha spinoff absolutely prints money thanks to waifufag otaku playing it in spades. Well, I say "playing" but I'm pretty sure it's one of those turn based RPG's that you can set to literally just play itself.
>>288125678>I like censorship if it's coming from inside the industryI know. You're on /a/ after all.
>>288125584They absolutely will, just take a look at any of their proposals pushed towards other companies where they have a similar share, they push quite a number of policies in most of them. https://oasiscm.com/press-releases/That said:1.) Kadokawa does, in fact, need some shake up, likely including a new CEO, considering the state of the company2.) Oasis (and would be the case for any foreign activist hedge fund for the most part) involvement is likely to cause a bunch of problems, both with figuring out the proper path forward and Kadokawa's business as a whole going forward.
>>288125687problem is it's been years since a new novel became big, most of the popular novels were written back in the 2010s.
>>288125711So, like I said. The best way forward is to replace the CEO with a competent guy who won't lead the company into declining profits and plunging shares.That way, you won't have to "justify" keeping the CEO to shareholders.
>>288125226this is four chins /a/. dont expect most anyone here to know anything about running a successful business never mind being a c-suite or board member of a japanese corporation
>>288125734>That way, you won't have to "justify" keeping the CEO to shareholders.The CEO justifies themselves to shareholders, not you.
>>288125584the entire point of "fiscal responsibility towards shareholders" is to be a legally mandated blight for business.
>>288125691chinks are the most pro-censorship group ever.
>>288125748Yes, and he is not able to do that with plunging profits and share value. Just change the CEO with a competent guy.
>>288125772and who is the competent guy?
So have any of the others released financials that might compare? Shueisha? Kodansha? Media Do? Akita Shoten? Curious to see how their CEO’s are performing in comparison
>>288125777Me
>>288125777The board decides that. We (including Oasis) can only point out that the current guy is incompetent.
>>288125730There are a couple. Roshidere is only 6 years old and is pretty huge. But you're mostly right. Narō has become so inundated with regurgitated slop that there are very few series that even have the capability of getting big enough to be major hits. Apothecary Diaries is pretty notable for having blown up globally after having received an anime adaptation back in 2023, but by that point the novel was like 12 years old. Good, new novel properties are definitely in incredibly short supply. Makeine is probably the standout of the 2020's. The light novel industry is a tremendous shitshow at the moment. It's disheartening.
>>288125796if you're associating yourself with oasis, you are irrelevant.
>>288125788Shueisha/Kodansha/Akita Shoten are all privately held, Media Do, like Kadokawa, is public so their financials should be available.
>>288125765Chinks have nothing to do with this. Oasis is not owned by chinks. It's a hedge fund based out of Hong Kong.Again, it doesn't matter who is pointing out that the company is going downhill. That's just a fact.https://oasiscm.com/about-us/
>>288125796>The board decides that. So politics and not competence, as the other Anon already said about there being problems involved in replacing a CEO. Watch as the Anon will continue with the push that the CEO just needs to be competent with zero understanding of what any of that actually means.
>>288125814>if you're associating yourself with oasisHoly reading comprehension. We as in outsiders/non-board members (including you and me).
>>288125815Shueisha is definitely seeing some struggles on the WSJ end, given the the current EIC is horrifically incompetent. But I imagine that's more than offset by the massive success of Jump+ and the growing proliferation of digital manga sales.
>>288125831>problems involved in replacing a CEOThey did that just fine in 2021. Again. why do CEOs need to be above scrutiny?
>>288125800Witch and Mercenary is probably the only other I can see with potential to become big recently. The Japanese seem to really like it.
smells like a /v/-thread here.
>>288125849>why do CEOs need to be above scrutiny?Why do you keep treating politics as being above scrutiny?
>>288125863You should head on back since you're apparently so familiar with it.
>>288125849Pointing out the fact that it is bad that a parasite (Oasis) has attached itself to Kadokawa and will do everything they can to warp Kadokawa's to their own, generally short term, interest is not putting the CEO above scrutiny.
>>288125873How do you think the current CEO was selected? Do you know that the board selected him? He led the company "fine" for 4 years, but his decisions are not working in the current market.What would be done with a worker whose skills were "outdated?"
>>288125852And that's yet another series Kadokawa failed to acquire. Presumably because of their insistence on picking up only the most generic Narō slop imaginable in service to chasing "mainstream appeal".
>>288125863There's barely any shitflinging and the thread hasn't derailed in 10 posts, so I'd say it's not anything like a /v/ thread.
Turns out that it is a /v/-thread. >>>/v/738931967
>>288125895Letting a retard plunge the profits will do wonders, I'm sure.
>>288125800Nothing last forevernote how nether examples are even isekai, at this point they might as well go back to original LNs
>>288125898replacement, obviously.Now tell me, what does him being replaced being difficult because of politics has to do with him? You speak as if he is now in an untouchable position when all problems from replacing him are problems for everyone who isn't on the way out.
>>288125898>How do you think the current CEO was selected?He was the best lay of the candidates
>>288125914Kadokawa owns video game studios too, you fucking retard. It's relevant to both boards' core topics of discussion.
I never played elden ring, and I still won't care about it.
>>288125939>being difficult because of politicsAre you saying that the CEO is being kept in power because of nepotism and/or bribery? I guess that explains why they defended him so strongly.>all problems from replacing him are problems for everyoneThis is just straight up false. They replaced the CEO in 2021 and nothing happened to the other board members.
>>288125948Speak English.
>>288125937>Nothing last foreverTrue, but that includes growing profit margins. No matter the medium, sales will eventually stagnate and every decline. What Kadokawa does is still working very well, even if it's CEO does seem to be kind of incompetent.
>>288125960I played it in VR. It was pretty fun to run around and explore.
>>288125904>>288125800It was at this point that I realized most of the LNs I follow don’t come from Kadokawa. TO Books, Micro Magazine and Overlap really are kicking Kadokawa’s ass.Hifumi Shobo also seems to be coming back with a vengeance, wonder if they picked up a good editor or had a senior change.
>>288125983>This is just straight up false. They replaced the CEO in 2021 and nothing happened to the other board members.You have confirmed you have never worked a paper pushing job. No wonder your first assumption is the false idea of just the leaders being fired or not. Me and the other Anon are thinking about literally everyone else lower on the totem pole. Your entire perception of how companies operate completely ignores all bureaucratic elements to it.
>>288121354They want the business to put profit ahead of policy or trends.In Japan it is the rule that companies must circlejerk each other, Elden Ring was published by Bandai, therefor nightrein is published by Bandai, not Kadokawa who now have a publishing office in America.Profit fund says fuck that, make money publishing even if you break the rule
>>288126026By your logic, the CEO should be emperor for life. Nobody is demanding that they immediately fire the CEO. You can't fire a worker without notice either.The best move that will save the company their izzat and not lead them to doom is quietly replacing the CEO later in the year.
>>288126031Oasis and others also want companies that have large cash reserves from decades of business to fall back on to immediately pay it out to shareholders. Or in another case, do the same with a large art gallery, sell it off for the shareholders.
>>288124479Things you forgot to do.
>>288122314Test
I hate shareholders that think they can run the business more than even the most incompetent CEO
>>288126013Even out of the most prolific isekai of the 2010's, which is supposed to be Kadokawa's wheelhouse, the only two I'm aware of that are published by Kadokawa are Konosuba and Log Horizon. The former if which is completed and awaiting a sequel that will likely never come, and the latter of which is a dead franchise that will likely never see completion. Even before this CEO took over, they really weren't doing great with a lot of their acquisitions. Mushoku Tensei, Re:Zero, and Tensura were all acquired by other publishers, and those series have been phenomenally successful both as novels and through their adaptations. Tensura's sales are notably insane. It's the best selling light novel property of all time by a massive margin between its novel and manga sales, and the anime is a tremendous success. The last massively successful series they acquired was Konosuba. Before that was Haruhi Suzumiya, and before that was fucking Record of Lodoss War. The Lodoss War novels were published between 1988-1993; let that shit sink in. And those are literally their only three novel properties to have achieved is 10 million in sales, to boot. They're getting their shit pushed in with regards to acquiring hit series, and seem to compensate by picking up as much mass market slop as is humanly possible. Which of course causes their editors to fuck off elsewhere because they're both overburdened and sick of being expected to wrangle the unprofessional, socially inept retards that Kadokawa farms from Narō. It's a clusterfuck of incompetence.
Shueisha's Jump, which decides cancellations based on rankings from paying readers VS Kadokawa, which decides publications based on rankings from amateur submissions and non-paying readers
>Naro>17 hits>Kakuyomu>0 hit>Alphapolis>0 hitThis thread is one those tourist thread.
>>288126059You are the only one treating any mentions of fast and speedy movements to replace the upper part of a bureaucratic system to change it top-down having consequences as being a pro-"CEO should be immune to scrutiny" bullshit.
>>288126217Hardly matters how WSJ determines their rankings when only three manga out of the last two dozen that they've serialized on the past two years haven't gotten shitaxed (Ichi, Someone Hertz, and fucking Hima-Ten! of an things). Modulo obviously doesn't count. People were going to buy that piece of shit regardless.
>>288121307And BlackRock interacts with Oasis Management Company through shared corporate governance interests, so:BlackRock -> Oasis Management Company -> Oasis Japan Strategic FundI am not surprised anymore.
Dare I say, might this be the wake up call Japan needs? Could the isekai/narou bubble finally be about to burst?
>>288126232Kakuyomu eats Narō's shit. Hardly matters that it's owned by Kadokawa when they would rather farm series the site that puts out far, FAR more in the way of successful web novels. And I had no idea what AlphaPolis has to do with anything. They're basically just Kadokawa/Kodansha/Bunko's light novel division but smaller and less successful.
>>288126296according to >>288124840it already burst
>>288126309Good
>>288126309That's just Kadokawa not doing great. The Narō > light novel > manga > anime pipeline is still going incredibly strong in Japan.
>>288126343at this point they're just going through the backlog of the last decade and it's only a matter of time before even that is exhausted like what popular isekai is left to be adapted? Death Mage?
Still plenty of isekai adaptation waiting in pipeline
>>288126343>>288126343>>288126364The reality that a lot of /a/nonsense don't want to accept is that for the male audience this is still the #1 way to profit. There is nothing that makes more money from male otaku then naro sloppa, the next solution is to somehow turn everything into a gacha which I believe they already are attempting. Now to the anon who said everything will be exhausted, you are correct and it's more so a sign of a decline in the entire industry rather than just kadokawa. Unique stories that still print money in that way from males are hard to come by so why not just make isekai op mc harem god #1038292929 even if it's low effort. Isekai is here to stay whether people like it or not unless you make all the male otaku suddenly hate power fantasy, no idea how you'd do that.
>>288126364See >>288125687Just because they're running out of popular isekai (which they never did a good job of acquiring in the first place >>288126215), doesn't mean Narō is running out of slop. Quite the contrary: it's thriving and pumping out more than ever before. It's just a matter of keeping up with trends.
>>288124713>seth
>>288126425When will the otaku get tired of this? How do they keep eating this shit up?
We desperately need a Dendro reboot
>>288126425see>>288125730there's a lot of them but not many of them are getting close to the popularity of the series that were made a decade ago, and those series are the ones getting adapted to anime. once they're gone what's next?
>>288126436Never Naro gets 1billion+ page views per month and it's not slowing down, isekai cracked the code for ultimate escapism. However Kadokawa sucks ass at acquiring the right ip nowadays compared to other companies.
>>288126472More isekai just like how in the west romantasy slop has been going hard for women for decades and decades just each decade it has a slight twist.
>>288126364History of the Kingdom of OrcsenDeath MageSurvival in Another World with My Mistress
>>288126364As long as narou exist, I don't think there will be lack of content.
>>288126234Kadokawa rejected removing the CEO. They could have ignored the demands.Explicitly defending the CEO is pretty huge indicator of nepotism.
>>288126491yeah but isekai was the twist of the battle harems before it and the haruhi clones before that so LNs will probably remain popular but I don't know about isekai
>>288126513It's a Japanese company pretty par for the course
>>288126364Highserk Senki
>>288126416Yup. There's a reason light novel covers are plastered with a revolving door of beautiful anime girls that are frequently illustrated by incredibly talented artists. Waifufag otaku scoop that shit up like nobody's business. They read the web novel, become ingratiated to its massive cast of often-barely-described heroines, then buy the light novel as expediently as possible to finally get a look at what their waifu look like when put to paper as an illustration. And of course, buying the light novels mean the publishers will start making merchandise. Pins and posters and acrylic stands galore. And then if it gets an anime adaptation? Oh boy! Now there are even figis! Figis of mai waifu that I can buy for the low, low price of ¥20,000 to decorate the one bookshelf in my tiny apartment before selling them secondhand when I move onto the next series and all of ITS pretty, beautifully-illuatrated waifu! It's almost fucking insidious how well marketing this shit to lonely, virgin, male otaku actually works. It's a money-printing machine that's probably suffering more from Japan's rising cost of living than it is from Narōfags losing interest. It's pretty much the same reason VTubers have become so incredibly successful. The audience is massive, and a lot of them hate a shitload of disposable income.
>>288126517It will be some type of extreme escapism, that much I can guarantee. So if you hate isekai now, you will likely hate it's evolution even more similar to what battle harems evolved into which obviously was isekai though battle harems still get made just not animated. I think something a lot of people don't understand is the escapism aspect which many find retarded in isekai is permanent just it may change forms slightly.
>>288126536Bishoujo figures print money, I forgot about that. Especially those scale ones. So many otaku just keep buying it.
>>288126472>once they're gone what's next?You're missing the point. Kadokawa doesn't target popular, quality works. They target mass market slop that will sell in the thousands rather than the millions, and they acquire an absolute shitload of them. They're counting on the numbers to keep flowing in as a result of that strategy, and while they may have experienced a recent decline, the fact is that it works. That's the entire cause for the quantity over quality complaint mentioned in OP. There's more low-brow Narō slop than ever just waiting to be picked up and peddled to lonely waifufags seeking escapism and fantasies of love and longevity with their 2D paramours.
>>288121354The board members want Dark Souls 4 and a Dark Souls movie, it'll be kino.
>>288126575They make even more money when they can turn the series into a gacha game. Japanese otaku scarf that shit down like the finest of junk food and it makes obscene amounts of money. Whereas the end of the aforementioned Narō pipeline was once merchandising revenue, now it's gachabux.
>>288121307tl;dr?
>>288126594who said anything about quality even the slop that's put people in stores have been drying up since the pandemicadaptions are just eating the backlog
>>288126640Kadokawa released their financials.Kadokawa’s largest shareholder tried to remove the CEO of Kadokawa in response but it was blocked.
>>288125322More like they don't like individual popularity or individual success trumping the whole tiered ladder that makes people above you "lose face".Waiting your turn in corporate Japan and corporate entertainment is the norm. That's why artists and creators have historically been fucked over and how you see stuff like breakout VA's and authors being payed their "tiered salary" over some sempai getting rich playing a background character in a seasonal anime. Kinda off topic but applies.
>>288126654>even the slop that's put people in stores have been drying up since the pandemicNo they haven't. Sales have just become more probably digital than physical. Which of course means bigger profit margins by way of saving money on ink and shitty, recycled paper. The bigger problem isn't the availability of slop: it's the cost of living crisis that's currently raping the wallets of much of the Japanese population.
>>288126679thanks anon
>>288125322Oh, right. I forgot Kadokawa owns MF. Guess that makes my post about them doing a poor job of acquiring popular isekai totally incorrect.
>Kadokawa takes a quantity over quality approach and flings shit at all the wall until it sticks.Why they acquired JNC makes sense now. They have the same mindset.
>>288126727NTA, but the more successful series are good at doing just enough that's a little bit different to make the series feel distinct. Sometimes that works out for the better, sometimes it means you're reading generic isekai with a shitty gimmick. Personally I don't mind junk food media, but that's partly because I have an immensity of free time due to my work and don't always feel like reading something thought-provoking or emotionally heavy. A lot of my favorite manga and light novels are trash because I simply had a good time reading them. Citrus comes to mind. It's garbage, but I'm a raccoon.
>>288124840is this a good time to buy?
>>288126232>reading LNs at allit's all garbageI originally thought it was the fault of bad translationsbut I learned Japanese and I found out that translators were actually making it BETTER
>>288126891does that apply to haruhi
>>288126907spoken like someone who thinks the JLPT means anything (it doesn't)
>>288126846>when you could be reading literary masterpiecesI do that, too. I just don't require everything I read to be that. >Don't you want something thought provoking?I mean, I already answered that, but I'll repeat it: not always. Sometimes I like low-brow media. Sometimes I spent 5 hours straight in the blazing, Texas summer sun pounding fences through the bedrock with a 45-pound T-post hammer and have a ton of time life in my day, but absolutely no energy to use on reading something that actually requires my brain to function when I'm already exhausted. Being a farm hand sucks, but I've literally read over 3,000 volumes of manga (and a couple hundred light novels) in a year thanks to the time it affords me. It's just that a lot of that is easily-consumed slop because dumb fun is sometimes all I have the mental bandwidth to take in. We all have our reasons for enjoying the media we consume. I imagine overworked Japanese otaku have a pretty similar mindset with regards to consuming slop.
>>288126951N1 is the starting line not the goal.
>>288126951I genuinely feel sorry for you if you paid to take a multiple test for worthless certificates, and it's starting to sound like you did.
Whoever at Kadokawa approved adapting stuff like Mahoako and Nukitashi, they should listen more to that person.
>>288126846I read the classics in school and now I've the useless reading habit/skill and use it on junk, what else. You may well ask why anyone watches isekai or any kind of slop, they just do. You never watch slop?
>>288126995You must love a very comfortable, low-stress life if you can't understand why people like to enjoy easy media.
>>288126232Kakuyomu is shit.>alphapolisI will check it out.
>>288121307>Oasis was founded in 2002 by Seth Fischer Every single time.
>>288127060I'm not really a big fan of power fantasies, though I've read and enjoyed a handful of them. But yes, I do in fact have bigger issues. The work I do is frequently brutal and also very isolating because I live in the middle of fucking nowhere. But hey, at least I've never felt the need to self-insert and project myself into the protagonist of whatever I'm reading. Even I feel bad for the people to need that kind of escapism to find happiness.
>>288121307If this means less adaptation spamming I'm game. We need to go back to 2005 quantity.
>>288127134(You) sure sound like a miserable person. Pretty damn confident I'm less in need of therapy than you. Have fun being a colossal faggot.
>>288127134Therapy is a scam. You're paying actual money to talk fags/faggettes.
>all of narou is isekaiI think the site will already dead by now if that is the reality
>>288127032What are your top 10 Japanese classics?
Nice argument by projecting
>>288127225Are you surprised by this?
When was the last time kadokawa had a major hit? I only know rezero, rest are shogakukan or something.
Don't become a public corporation if you don't want shareholders to own the company
>>288127217Bochan.
>>288122400>As we try to help Japan make a smooth transition into a more international age, we are also working to create a work environment characterized by diversity and flexibility.No, not like this bros...
>>288127288Alya Sometimes Hides Her Feelings in Russian?
>>288127440Roshidere is definitely the most recent one I can think of.
>>288127217Good point, Japanese classics...that might be a diversion from slop that I don't know about with the Western book shilling.. Name anything and I'll read/pirate the .epub of whatever you recommend.
>>288127288Dungeon Meshi or anything in Harta magazine. People usually don't know that Enterbrain is part of Kadokawa group.
>>288127288https://comic-walker.com/ranking?timeInterval=daily
>>288127591>One of the best magazine is under Kadokawa Welp that's something
Not even a Kadokawa or isekai thing. Feels like even WSJ is struggling too. When was their last hit? Kagurabachi? Ichi? Neither of those have reached the heights that previous series have. I guess DanDanDan but that one feels like it fizzled out a little.
>>288127690Slime is still hitting 300k nowadays and have 45 million in circulation as 2024
Not a /biz/fag. Explain why any of this matters.
>>288121307>Oasis Japan Strategic Fund
>>288125544A bunch of nip publishers are jumping into this all of the sudden. Kodansha Academy and Mangaplus Creators predates this.
>>288123512>>288123647>>288124069>>288124252The constant monopolization of so many animation studios for light novels is why we can't get 100+ episode mecha anymore. Screw kadokawa.
>>288127760Slime is over a decade old and I'm pretty sure it ended last year. And yeah even if it's still selling even now as I type this, that won't be the case as time goes on. I was more so talking about new hits. If these companies want to continue the status quo, they're gonna need to make some new bangers.
>>288124220Does anime as an ad for middling sales products even make financial sense? You're usually looking at millions in production costs requiring tens of thousands to hundreds of thousands new consumers for your product to recover costs. But if your product doesn't even have a hundred thousand consumers prior, what are the chances it's even gonna appeal to more people?
>>288121307ah yes, "activist" shareholders. private equity slimes who buy their way in and liquidate anything valuable for dividend payouts while double-dipping on their intentional sabotage by holding short positions on the side. kadokawa is fucked. you hate to see bad guys getting beat up by even worse guys. who do you even cheer for?
>>288127571
>>288128104>Japanese classics>William Gibsonlolwat
>>288128131It's the recommended media list from the Metalhead RPG from the mid-90s
>>288127863I know it's not the board for this stuff but holy fuckhow is it every single time
>>288121307>>It cited several concerns, including what it perceives as Kadokawa having a “quantity over quality” approach to IP creationstatistically, this is the right approach for creative arts. most of them will flop even if you create a good quality product.e.g. the first Fantasy Fantasy 3D movie was revolutionary and absolute kino.
>>288128082Their holdings aren't substantial enough to do real damage. Yet. That's why all they can do is virtue signal about wanting to improve the company, but aren't capable of affecting real change as long as the board disagrees with them. That being said, you most definitely do not cheer for the chinks. Do you want increased censorship of a huge swathe of otaku media? Because they most definitely do.
>>288128208Their mistake was calling it Final Fantasy and expecting it to do well based on brand loyalty. They ended up accomplishing the exact opposite by pissing off people who were expecting a film that actually had anything to do with Final Fantasy. It's a damn shame, too. That film is excellent. Even as a kid I knew I was watching something remarkable.
>>288128225the other option is westoids ruining kadokawa so ill take the chinks thank you
>>288128176>westoid e-celebsdisgusting
>>288128276I have no idea what makes you think the changs will be any better when censorship is their modus operandi, but more power to you I guess.
>>288128304its become increasing common for activist shareholders such as to leverage "anti-ESG" proposals in very hostile take overs due to a new belief that pro-esg shareholders are actually destroying potential market reach rather than widening it, if this is what the Chinese want then good for them
>>288128225i hate seeing a bad guy getting beat up by an even worse guy because it forces me to root for the bad guy. fuck this overfinancialized world. i hope their plans collapse and end up wasting money trying to acquire more shares.
>>288128347I feel you there, anon. Kadokawa sucks ass, but I don't want to see them cannibalized by money-hungry chinks who just want to extract short-term profit before leaving them and everything under their umbrella to rot in the fucking gutter. It's easy to know who to root for with this one.
>>288128383>Kadokawa sucks ass,Why?
>>288128400See: half this thread. I'm not going to re-explain what's already been talked about at length.
>>288123512Now someone need slap aniplex.
>>288128400they dont, its just butthurt retards yelling at clouds
>>288123929More like youths who think like the NEETs writing all the Narou slop they're adapting
>>288128208>>288128247relevent /vr/ point.>>>/vr/12572901movie flopped so hard it almost destroyed square-nix. dun put all your eggs in 1 big budget basket case.
>>288121307>>The proposal came from Oasis Japan Strategic Fund (owned by Hong Kong-based activist hedge fund Oasis Management Company,man don't you love venture capitalism where an obvious chinese plant can make a play to destroy a foreign company and there's nothing anybody can do in this obvious act of industry sabotage?
>>288127986People are still underestimating how gamechanging the switch to digital is for the industry. Back in the day Jump can just brute force their way into the market by saturating it using their huge circulation to get exposure. Nowadays you can see that strategy didn't work anymore, they're the only mag that still has +-1 million circulation, since the internet has reduced that advantage significantly. People also have more option since many services are offering freebie reading to a certain extent so now they're exposed to thousands of serialization at once. I'm with the opinion that among major magazine Jump is years behind when it comes to digital integration and we rarely saw them collaborate with Jump+ unlike Magazine+Magapoke or Sunday+Webry.
>>288121354It's a Hong Kong-based activist hedge fund. They are the CCP wearing a see-through raincoat. They see a way to crack at Kadokawa's anime and games division, which publishes dark souls, without having to actually compete with it.
>>288128475>>288128460they want to make dark souls 4 and a dark souls movie, they are pretty cool
>>288128460>foreign plants from unfree-HK.they were defeated. so we win again! cheerios!
>>288128456Oh yeah, they got absolutely fucked. I can only wonder how much more their properties would have thrived in the PS2 era had they not made such an egregious mistake. They were literally on top of the world and it all came crumbling down thanks to that one decision.
>>288128485ok plant >>>/pol/ >>>/trash/ >>>/int/
>>288125819It's a shell company from China. Just letting you know anyone can open up a shell company, and Hong Kong companies must open ones in Shanghai China in order to do business.
>>288128508you are the /pol/ tourist, dark souls is cool, imagine if they make multiple seasons of dark souls 1,2,3 and then conclude with DS4 sorta like the sekiro anime
>>288128525I can literally smell the fucking shill on you. Go back.
>>288128543whatever you say election tourist, DS1 was 4chan culture and it getting an anime is kino
>>288128469I think jap companies are just way too slow and scared of moving away from something that works (or worked) to try and do something else that will also work. They know that in order to get more money, they have to get other, foreign markets, but at the same time they don't want to change what's working for them in Japan. So what happens is that they introduce a system that happens to ALWAYS be half-assed and backwards that does nothing for everyone involved.
Just taking a quick look at how Oasis handles their other investments, this is part of the bullet point demand sheet (labeled as demands by Oasis) Oasis put together for some different Japanese company they have a stake in as part of some big initiative they put together, which they are doing while also demanding the removal of the chairmen and the appointment of an external director.I would venture to guess they probably don't have the best interests of the actual company in mind with these, just as it is very unlikely they have Kadokawa's best interest in mind either.
>>288128460>chinese>>288127863
>>288128560making manga not japanese is how you get foreign markets, ban all lewd content and ban censor it to hell and back, this is their only choice
>>288128578>So are the Jews or the Chinese behind this?Yes.
>>288128570Buyback a shit ton of stock, to "review overcapitalized balance sheet and improve capital efficiency"What the fuck does that even mean?
>>288128578It's a worldwide effort to destroy Kadokawa. The Koreans own some shares too. Eventually they'll all have enough to appease the Jew, Chinese and Korean overlords
>>288121307good, incel slop like isekai shit needs to go
>>288128619A company purchases shares of itself from the stock market. This reduces the number of shares outstanding, each remaining share represents a bigger ownership stake. The business itself didn’t improve, but each share now claims a larger piece of profits and carries more weight.
>>288128665I get that part, I meant more the "review overcapitalized balance sheet and improve capital efficiency" justification.
Everyone itt complains about shareholders, hedge funds, buybacks etc but no one has a solution fascinating.
>>288128426Most of the posters here have no idea what Kadokawa is, how it's organized and what it does. It's not a monolithic entry where every decision is taken by the top.
>>288121307Oh no what will the rezero creator do now that kadowa is in danger.
>>288128690I know the popular thing right now is to hate on jews because some Russians programmed you to believe that but unfortunately for you not everything is a psyop
>>288128820sure but they aren't this boogiemen who control the world which you do believe
>>288128772Go back to pol, retard
>>288121749That is wrong. Activist shareholder is a shareholder who is actively working towards a goal instead of passively investing.That goal can be anything including taking apart the company and selling it.
>>288128878you are the /pol/ tard mentioning jews at every other reply, you are literally /pol/ incarnate>>288128879Yes and you are very low iq to boot if you assumed I meant otherwise. Zero nuance in that empty skull you got.
>Diversity and Inclusion
>>288128956Not at all, don't put words into my mouth /pol/ cuck. Genocide is evil but calling an entire ethnic group/ethnoreligious group evil is also evil and very racist.
>>288128974>calling an entire ethnic group/ethnoreligious group evil is also evil and very racist.I hate the be the bearer of bad news, anon, but /pol/filth take being called racist as a compliment.
>>288128772Think about your sentences a bit more why don't you?
>>288129060Yes I have concluded that hating any group of people for existing is evil including jews.
>>288121307>particularly the “quantity over quality” claimAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAThey should have chosen a different hill to die on. >>288123512>Multiple authors have spoken up about Kadokawa’s production team changing stuff in books without telling the original author./a/ will defend this. >Another author mentioned he submitted his novel to a Kadokawa contest and the feedback he got wasn’t great. He submitted the same novel to another publisher and it won. About a year after the second volume was published, a Kadokawa rep contacted him and asked why he never submitted the novel to them and that they really want something like it.The bigger a company gets, the more retarded it becomes.
>>288124840That's kind of bad
>>288129077spoken like a true contrarian, when everyone realized the jews were fucking up the planet you support them
>>288128400It doesn't. They don't personally like the anime and that's why they them want to make slop they like instead (fromsoft? yikes..). Basically, they approve censorship. It's probably /v/ posters.
eat shit kadokawat. kaban and serval
>>288129188Based
>>288129199Based
>>288129360Mods = Gods
>>288129100>/a/ will defend thisSome of the stuff they’re leaking about Kadokawa publishing is just sad.One person mentioned their editor changed THE END to TO BE CONTINUED without telling the author. So the work looks like it was axed when it was meant to be finished.Another person mentioned they submit their final manuscript for a novel 2 days before the deadline, and their editor forgot they existed. Then a week later they got an email saying they had missed their deadline and further novels would no longer be published.Another mentioned that they were told their series (contracted for 3 volumes initially) was axed a week before the first volume released. The editor however still hounded them to work on the other 2 volumes and they kept it quiet from the public that it was already dead. Another talks about how they released a volume in their series, and people began asking questions about one section that the author couldn’t remember writing. His editor had added about 10 pages without telling him that completely went against what was planned for the next book, it also had multiple mistakes.Another mentioned that they had the opportunity to release an international version of their first novel, but their editor stopped it as it would take attention from another work they wanted to push.
>>288129582>His editor had added about 10 pagesHoly cow. This is so unsubtle. >Another mentioned that they had the opportunity to release an international version of their first novel, but their editor stopped it as it would take attention from another work they wanted to pushPure evil.
>what it perceives as Kadokawa having a “quantity over quality” approach to IP creationThe whole industry has a "pick randomly from the top 10 on syosetu dot com and adapt it" approach.>>288122205I was looking for the first poster who doesn't know what an "activist investor" is- congrats
>>288129582Yet there are multiple faggots in this very thread saying that no, Kadokawa isn't really that bad, actually.
>>288129817because they aren't, any massive company at kadokawa's size will have the occasional mess up
>>288129582Which publisher? Media Factory, Kadokawa Shoten, Fujimi Shobo, ASCII Media Works, Enterbrain or something else? Kadokawa Group is a conglomerate of fairly independent companies.
>>288129834Systemic abuse of artistic talent and their works is not an "occasional fuck up" when Kodansha does it any less than it is when Shueisha destroys their mangaka's health and longevity to the extent that they end up dying many years earlier than the Japanese national average. Why are you insistent on licking the boot, anon? Does it really taste that good? Should.. should I try it?
>>288129905sounds like you are a schizo to me
>>288129905>that they end up dying many years earlier than the Japanese national average.Is there any statistic regarding author health and the publishers they worked for?
>>288127137I think they just want to leverage certain titles, rather than scattershot, milk 'popular thing as hard as possible'. More short term pump and dump.
>>288129928I was just using Shueisha as an example of a prolific publisher. I can't imagine others are much different. Regardless, the fact that the life expectancy of (especially male) mangaka is more than 20 years lower than the Japanese national average is absolutely psychotic shit.
>>288129973At what point does somebody count as a mangaka? What publication frequency do they need to maintain that title?
>>288129851The mistake was in allowing foreigners to have shares.
>>288130006>At what point does somebody count as a mangaka?The moment they start illustrating and selling manga. It could be self-published doujinshi, web manga distributed through Twitter, Pixiv, etc., or manga serialized in a major magazine helmed by one of the titans of the Japanese publishing industry. Frequency has nothing to do with it. Eromangaka selling one, 25-page Precure smut doujinshi a year at Summer Comiket are still mangaka. They're just mangaka as a side gig/out of passion, rather than published mangaka with the backing of a big corporation.
>>288130063Then I don't think it's going to have a huge effect on their health.
>>288122400Sounds like a token jew. I guess America or companies such as Blackrock forced them to get her there.
>>288130073It's not like I'm pulling the number out of my ass, anon. Mangaka die much younger than average. That's just a hard fact.
>>288129836That's the issue, since they have bad corporate management they expanded their editorial department without regards for good corporate structure, which allowed bad editors to mess shit up on top of increasing costsThat's why they're trying to make editors leave and restructure in an attempt to salvage the top management before Oasis pushes to oust them
>>288130107The ones that die at a lower age are those struggling with deadline after deadline.Publishing one doujin isn't going to shave 20 years of your life.
>>288123512Maybe they want to push from software to publish their own games globally, since they're also a publisher
Seth Fischer, the man who you should follow.
>>288130128Well yes, obviously. But I have no idea why the fuck you're treating that as relevant when I was very obviously referring to mangaka who work for major publishers. There was in fact zero ambiguity in that respect in both of the posts that I mentioned it.
>>288130123How come it's all about novels and no mention of manga? Shouldn't manga have similar editor problems?
>>288130171Yes, they've also struggled to produce hits in general in recent years
>>288130167You're just talking out of your ass. Mangaka aren't the only Japanese having to life with constant pressure and overwork yet somehow Japan still has one of the highest life expectancies in the world.
>>288121307>or is outright false (particularly the “quantity over quality” claim)lol lmaoWould anyone actually believe this? You can literally find their statement about wanting to produce even more isekai stories.
>>288123607A fund which fucks with consumer base and actively tries to piss them off.
>>288126343Do I have to turn my highly kino introspective boring slow life shitty isekai novel that I'll never let anyone read into LitRPG shit to have any chance of success if I'm in the west?
>>288130323if shitty western isekai like tbate can get a (incredibly shitty) anime adaptation, then so can you. you just have to have the right publisher, like the gook ones, or perhaps crunchyroll, who knows?
>>288130574Don't bother, he's clearly paid for that.
>>288121886Guillotine it is then
>>288124444Japanese wattpadImagine if trashy slop fanfiction got published and made into an animated series based on how popular it was with a niche low iq audienceThat's literally what it isIt's why anime and manga is going to shit
>>288127863Pissrael strikes again.
>>288128680It means "reduce your cash reserves and endanger your cash flow so we can sell you off at a profit".
>>288124305>The medium is not at risk.
>>288130922Japan's Lost Generation is the audience for those shows.Them being popular in SEA is just a bonus since they don't buy merch.
Even if Kadokawa disappeared, 70% of /a/ wouldn't even care
>>288130266>>288121749>>288121908I love this genre of post where someone shares 'economic knowledge' they exclusively got from being a fatass consumer. Like EVERYTHING is about you, the shareholders are out to make YOU upset so they can laugh at you, or the entire terminology of 'activist shareholder' revolves around what goes on in children's cartoons that make you mad. Gloriously retarded.
>>288121908>conservative values are apolitical
>>288125335Absolute mental illnessGreedy fucking jews
>>288126265>haven't gotten shitaxed (Ichi, Someone Hertz, and fucking Hima-Ten! of an things)>Hima-Ten!Do we tell him?
>>288130191Reincarnation Coliseum is a huge success.
>>288126416>The reality that a lot of /a/nonsense don't want to accept is that for the male audience this is still the #1 way to profit. There is nothing that makes more money from male otaku then naro sloppa,Completely falseNaroushit is niche in JapanIt's not mainstreamMale Otaku prefer to play Genshin and other kinds of gacha now and have largely abandoned LN/Manga
>>288126536>incredibly talented artistsHahahahahahahahhahahaThey are all the same AI-tier garbage
>>288126685>Sales have just become more probably digital than physical.>MUHHHHHHHHH DIGITALCOPEThis just mean it's only old fags who are at death's door will buy this shitKids aren't reading shit so manga and LN's future is grimTorishima was right and you will seethe forever about it
>>288130824>Kumo Desu Ga, Nani Ka?>Honzuki>Tensei Shitara Slime datta ken (I prefer the WN, though the manga and anime is nice. I don't read the LN)>Duke's Daughter>Apothecary Diaries>Demon's Noble Girl ~ Story of Careless Demon ~>SAO>Infinite Dendrogram>Reincarnated as a Sword>Shangri-La>Sairin Yuusha no Fukushuu Hanashi>Secret of the Silent Witch>There Was No Secret Evil-Fighting Organization (srsly?!), So I Made One MYSELF!>The Water MagicianThere's more, but that's all I can think of without checking my reading list.
>>288131192You're rightOnly mentally brown people in a certain age group like Naroushit
>>288126964Unironically... diversify your hobbies...Video games... music
>>288131291Also add,>Apotheosis (Bunny girl)From the same author as Demon Noble's Girl
>>288121354WE NEEED MORE MONEY GWEILO!!!
>>288127137>We need to go back to 2005 quantity.We will, when the industry crashes. But don't expect the quality to go back to 2005 levels.Anime with soul like Futari wa Pretty Cure will never be made again. Those days are long gone since they switched to widescreen.You will get the same heavily photoshopped/CGI anime with shit unnatural mass assembly-style voice direction, bad art, bad character designs, bad colors, mediocre music, bad direction/storyboarding etc like all current anime.
>>288123512>>288129582straight black company shit. I thought chinks were the only ones who'd blatantly scam like this hahaha
>>288124958Old meta- actually what they need is not only money but also an influx of dynamic new ideas. That's why they actually need Saudi money. Because who else knows how to tardwrangle a harem consisting of your evil cf wife, your maid, your exotic foreign orphan friend and your cousin better than the Saudis? Not only will the financials be secure but if they expand to the Arab market you'll have even better written native isekais!
>>288127690>Feels like even WSJ is struggling too.LMAOThat is the understatement of the centuryJP Magazine are still refusing to show Q1 2026 numbers because Jump most likely went down under a million this quarterMind you, Jump is STILL the highest selling mangazine, everything else sells even worseSo this just shows you the real state of the industry right now DanDaDan is not even WSJ it's Jump+ btwSo I doubt many kids are reading it seeing it's digital-only
>>288125287>>288125301I hate how 2 posts can make me angry instantly like this.FUCK
>>288122249One is outright censorship
>>288131433>14/15 and 16/17 dropped by around 300k eachBrutal
>>288128179>I know it's not the board for this stuffFuck off redditor
>>288128292>westoidShut up you cockroach tranny newfag
>>288128596The guy is a kike not German, and chinks have been controlled by jews for a long time
>>288128772Fuck off moshe
>>288131433those are print numbers in the digital age
>>288128974Fuck off you cancerous hooknosed goblinYour tribe is the tribe of satan for thousands of years1000+ expulsions
>>288131258>Torishima was rightWhat did he say regarding this topic?
>>288129424Mods = FagsAnd you are one too
>>288125161>does really anyone that started watching anime in the 90s or early 00s give a fuck anymore because I sure don't.And yet, you're still here.
>>288129834Kys shill
>>288127863TKD
>>288130949>Japan's Lost Generation is the audience for those shows.HorseshitThey have a very tiny audience when you look at the actual sales
>>288131291All fucking trash
>>288121307Kadokawa and the entire anime industry plus fans getting unmasked will never stop being hilarious.They'll just triple down on what they're doing and then eventually get the CEO ousted by their own actions instead because they're too scared to do anything different.
>>288131701...?
>>288131555>Muh DIGITAAAAAALIrrelevant you fucking idiotIf only old people read your shit(which they aren't really reading Jump that much anyways) then your shit has no futureKids don't have access to credit cards and the magazines are more expensive than ever now so they aren't reading Jump, not that even kids would find the slop in Jump appealing now but they don't even have access to the magazine anymore
>>288124609>56,000,000 That Time I Got Reincarnated as a Slime (Narou/Micromagazine/Kodansha/Bandai) [ISEKAI]>40,000,000 Apothecary's Diaries (Narou/Shufunotomo/Square-Enix/Shogakukan)>31,000,000 Toaru: "A Certain" series (Kadokawa)>30,000,000 Sword Art Online (self-hosted/Kadokawa)>25,000,000 The Irregular at Magic High School (Narou/Kadokawa)>22,000,000 Slayers (Kadokawa)>20,000,000 Danmachi: Is It Wrong to Try to Pick Up Girls in a Dungeon? (SoftBank)>20,000,000 Haruhi Suzumiya series (Kadokawa)>17,000,000 Mushoku Tensei: Jobless Reincarnation - I'll Seriously Try If I Go to Another World (Narou/Kadokawa/Toho) [ISEKAI]>14,000,000 Overlord (Arkadia/Narou/Kadokawa) [ISEKAI]>13,000,000 Re:ZERO -Starting Life in Another World- (Narou/Kadokawa) [ISEKAI]>13,000,000 Ascendance of a Bookworm: I'll do anything to become a librarian (Narou/T.O Entertainment) [ISEKAI]>13,000,000 The Rising of the Shield Hero (Narou/Kadokawa/Crunchyroll) [ISEKAI]>12,000,000 Sorcerous Stabber Orphen (Kadokawa)>11,500,000 Full Metal Panic! (Kadokawa)>10,300,000 Welcome to the Classroom of the Elite (Kadokawa)>10,000,000 Goblin Slayer (SoftBank/Square-Enix)>10,000,000 Konosuba: God's blessing on this wonderful world! (Narou/Kadokawa) [ISEKAI]>10,000,000 My Youth Romantic Comedy Is Wrong, As I Expected. (Shogakukan/Square-Enix)>10,000,000 Record of Lodoss War (Kadokawa)>10,000,000 Fortune Quest (Kadokawa)These circulation figures of LNs at and above the 10 million mark show that Kadokawa does indeed have a strong hold over Narou series and Isekai. TenSura and Kusuriya are just two big anomalies, whose authors, be it by luck or by intent or both, dodged the "mass production" treatment from Kadokawa so they managed to go to the top.
>>288126416>>288126536I don't want to defend trashy isekai but you are on an anime hobby board. Wouldn't that make you also an otaku, something you seem to despise?What is the kind of anime you watch or manga you read or do you watch no anime and read no manga and are just here because of reasons?
>>288131701>WE NEED TO PRODUCE MORE ROMANTASY!!!>PEOPLE WILL CALL IT ISEKAI BUT WE ALL KNOW ITS ROMANTASY!!>JUST LOOK AT THE INDIE LITERATURE SCENE!! >ALL ROMANTASY!! PEOPLE BUY ROMANTASY!!/lit/ fags winning wasn't in my 2026 bingo card.
>>288131765>Sword art onlineThe smartest SAO fag of all time realized years ago reki had a chance to change things by having a literal remake of the aincrad arc, but he decided that he should just focus on romance, asuna, and the girl of the week instead of the premise of the series.
>>288131578Japanese kids aren't reading manga anymore because:>Magazines are too expensive and kids lack access to credit cards to buy the digital versions>Manga isn't being made for them anymore, he singled out One Piece becoming slop that is hard to follow for kids in terms of paneling layout(in reality even adults who grew up with One Piece have a hard time with NuPiss' messy scribble bullshit but hey)>Because kids aren't reading manga anymore the future of manga seems grim since who will be the future artists and readers/consumers?He said a lot more stuff than that which you can find on the archives but that is the gist of it
>>288131829With Torishima you mean the famous Dragon Ball editor?
Clearly, Kadokawa needs to make more seasons of isekai quartet/quintet/sextet/etc. to promote all their titles at the same time in one single format.
>>288131758retard, how is it irrelevant when everyone has a phone nowadaysyou don't even need credit card with free platforms like jump+/mangaplusit's a marketing failure if the publisher can't get kids with these circumstances
>>288131765I think you need to look more at series that debuted in the last 6 years or so, that's when Kadokawa started to expand its IP production. Most of their big hits are pre 2020 series and they struggled to produce new ones, while other publishers managed to produce hits in the same fantasy and isekai genres that Kadokawa used to dominateOf course they still produce series that sell well but they have declined and should be doing better with the resources they have, which is why Oasis is pressuring them
>>288131662Do you have another way to explain the popularity of isekai then?FFS, isekai are even making their MC older as the Lost Generation age.
>>288131771The problem is that faggots like are going on and hating """isekai"" when in reality you're just denying the fact that """isekai"" is just the natural result of your constant obsession with all things female and all things otaku. All you have to do is literally look at the front fucking page of /a/ Nothing but girls. Girls girls girls girls girls. Everything is the same. We're going to constantly be stuck in the cycle where everything is the same except for one or two action and plot oriented shows that acts as a huge money printer.We all know its not isekai, you want to say it is, but we all know that it isnt. Just admit it.>>288131829The discourse with the big three will always be amusing. Naruto won by just not being weird and chuuni like bleach, one piece, and whatever japanese action series is going on. Sure it had a fuck ton of worthless flashbacks, but its action was top notch and it did not have filler which was one of the primary drivers in bleach and one pieces decline. Boruto is a perfect example of what happens when you go into the weird chuuni territory.
>>288131858YesDr. Mashirito himselfHe also said modern manga is all shit and far worse compared to older mangaHe singled out Hirayasumi as the only manga nowadays that is relatable and worth reading He trashed JJK, CSM and KnYHe praised Mitsuru Adachi's Touch as one of the best manga of all timeetc.
>>288126536>There's a reason light novel covers are plastered with a revolving door of beautiful anime girls that are frequently illustrated by incredibly talented artists.Why do retards like you always attribute pre-2010s battle-harem light novel traits to post-2010s isekai wn-to-ln series? Same thing with "hurr hurr why does the harem fall in love with a normalfag/loser MC just for being MUH kind?!" which I have seen as plausibly valid criticism against 2000s ecchi-harem garbage like to-shit-ru, but it makes absolutely no sense when talking about OP MC isekai where the MC is both powerful and rich as fuck most of the time.
>>288131989Wahhhh its not fair that the fictional girls like the fictional man. They should LIKE ME INSTEAD!!!
>>288127941Also the endless production crunch affect every big series. You get western retards pretending dragon ball is a "prestige" anime instead of a glorified video game ad. "Fans" Actually thinking it's good to have "remakes" of an anime that came out a decade ago. And praising the fact they get 10-15 episodes every 3-4 years. No, retard dragon ball isn't some masterpiece theater shit. It's a wacky Kung Fu show with laser beams.
>>288131885>retard, how is it irrelevant when everyone has a phone nowadays>you don't even need credit card with free platforms like jump+/mangaplusKids don't know how to access that shitThe series made also don't have appeal to kids and reading on a phone is not a good experience
>>288132015yeah and that kung fu show with laser beams with ugly characters is still running laps around most series.
They can have youkai watch level popular series back then.But they prefer to shoot themselves in the foot.They prefer isekai shits over kemono friends and reaped what they sowed.
>>288131934>Do you have another way to explain the popularity of isekai then?By isekai you mean naroushit, and it's not that popular, it just seems like it isIn reality they rehash the same bullshit and the audience is pretty much the exact same as the one 10 years agoIf you look at the numbers it gets its ass kicked by mahou shoujo series, the ratings are shit compared to mainstream stuff like Detective Conan or dubs of foreign shows like Curious GeorgeBut west cucks ignore stuff like PreCure and live in their bubble where Naroushit is the only relevant stuff to them, but the reality doesn't align with their perception
>>288132084I'll change my question then:If isekai is not actually popular, why does it keep being made?And if the LG is not the target audience, then who is?
>>288125652No, they're /v/edditors who probably care more about From Software
>>288132046Yeah and its fans get shit on in return with endless delays and repeat content.
>>288131963>Naruto>didn't have filleruwot m8?We had like almost 2 years of straight filler in OG Naruto and then another 2 years of milking by Studio Pierrot after the manga is overAnd Naruto was chuuni as fuck too don't know what you're on aboutIt was the one that was the worst about it which is why Narutards were the most annoying fans back thenItachi killing his whole clan and Sauce being an edgelord makes it Hot Topic the Anime There was no Big 3 in Japan anyways That was just the Onemanga ranking back in the day and dumb mutts and anglos thought those were the big 3 when in reality they were the top 3 only in like 2005 or so
>>288132084Idolshitters and unicorns are subhuman
>>288131989Tensura artist is pretty good and shouldn't be wasting his talent on LN garbage
What's the cope, pray for papa sony to buy them out first and roll them into crunchyroll?
>>288132164Pretty rhythm is a top tier anime.
>>288132176As long as it's color-illustrations...
>>288125652It's complicated because while the current CEO is a retard, the one pushing for a change is jewish and will certainly push for a kosher CEO, which would be even worse.
>>288132015>You get western retards pretending dragon ball is a "prestige" anime instead of a glorified video game ad.Dragon Ball is one of the best manga ever made, and in many ways it transcends the whole manga/anime mediumThe brand is still so strong that if DB didn't exist the industry would be in a much worse state right now considering it was making billions a year just one or two years ago without any anime or mangaI don't know why you're even bringing DB up, at allYou should be grateful to it because DB still functions as a safety net for the industry to this day
>>288132018>The series made also don't have appeal to kids and reading on a phone is not a good experienceoh okay thenlet's just give up and watch tiktok or something
>>288132238No? That is pretty decentOf course it's unoriginal as fuck if you're familiar with manga, but it's quite appealing and well-drawn which is more than you can say about 99% of manga nowadays
>>288132104>If isekai is not actually popular, why does it keep being made?Because it's super low-riskThey just scour the Narou site and pick something there and then they'll fuck over the author somehowProfit margins stay high because the risk is so low selling to the same audience over and over
>>288132249Well going to Westerner creators isn't going to help. All you have to do is look at royal road it's all the same as where we are getting in anime, just western.
>>288132164The idolshitters get better anime than isekai slop eatersThey are at least a step above the bottom of the barrel mongrels that eat up naroushit
>>288132251Precure gets 50 episodes a year.One piece got 50 episodes a year to 26 a year and is now getting a high production remake.Dragon Ball can't even get 20 episodes every 5 years.I blame kadokawa for contracting every anime studio perpetually to shit out light novel adaptations so it's no longer possible to get formulaic Shonen Jump shit on a consistent basis. Just look at how many 50 episode series they're used to be in past decades compared to today.
>>288132293>let's just give up and watch tiktok or somethingAnd that's what kids nowadays doThey watch youtube shorts of skibidi toilet or whatever the japanese equivalent isYou can toot your horn all you want about how digital is better, but here it has its disadvantages compared to physicalKids can see a manga magazine on a store and point to it so that their parents can buy it for them but with digital you don't get the same kind of exposure
>>288132370They're literally the same.
>>288121307>>288121749>>288123512>>288123607>>288128570Oasis was the company that demanded Nintendo start making Mario mobile games where you could pay 99 cents for Mario to jump higher.https://www.polygon.com/2014/2/26/5450938/shareholder-urges-nintendo-to-develop-for-mobile-platforms/
>>288132334You said earlier that the LG was not the audience, then who is?
It seems the glowie janny went to sleep
>>288131829As a former One Piece fan who enjoyed the anime and manga a lot I have to fully agree with Torishima regarding this topic.
>>288131829>kids lack access to credit cards to buy the digital versionsThat's bullshit when there's a dozen alternative payment methods.
>>288132426Wow, really? The nips should make a law where every share owned by oasis and other affiliated investing companies or successors of it are immediately removed from circulation and be made worthless.
>>288132335Royal Road is used to be good.I don't know when exactly, it happened much earlier before they partnered with a publisher, but a lot of calculated stories where the authors obviously wrote with a demographic in mind instead of a story they want to write began to come out and then they drowned the others who write just because they like it.>there's still such stories in RRYes, but they will never thrive when grouped with people who write as profession.>RR always have high bar to enterThat was in the past. Now if you leave a little scathing review, it's just going to be deleted.
>>288132296Yeah, but without color Rimuru's "egg head with eyes positioned way too low" stands out too much and becomes impossible to unsee... Mitz gives more care for proportions and other issues when it's a color illustration like this.
>>288132380One Piece is still running in the mangaDragon Ball is done, and desu personally as a fan I don't want it running foreverI'm fine with it being a done and legacy seriesAnd when you have Torishima openly shitting on Daima you know shit is badThe point is that DB still makes money even without any new stuff coming out for itShueisha has been fucking with the DB manga sales numbers but we know it sold 350m copies by 2008 per oricon(Shueisha now insists it's 300m as of now which is bullshit) so it should probably be close to 420 million or more by nowI doubt DB will ever die on the consciousness of the media in our lifetimesThe problem with DB has nothing to do with Kadokawa thoughIt's because DB's copyrights are in a messy situationIyoku/Capsule Corp owns some of them, Toei owns the anime rights, Shueisha the manga rightsIt's a giant mess
>>288132537Young adult happened. And by young adult I mean the special girl who specially does special things in a special way. Everything changed the moment Harry Potter ended.
>>288125652And the publishers are still completely at the whims of Apple/Google censorship instead of building a united front against it.
>>288132555Ultimately leads back to the philosophy of throwing money at it and get nothing in return. Why would you want to keep supporting a series that's basically dead?
>>288132429I don't even know what you mean by Lost Generation because Japan has had many lost decades right now that it's become a memeIf you mean the previous gen, it's only like maybe 1% of them and even that is being generousIf you look at the overall sales numbers it's apparent that the popularity of Narou is grossly over-inflated
>>288132468And kids have no access to any of themIf you don't market manga to them via retail in any physical store like it's always been done then it's a lost cause because they won't know the manga even exists
>>288132666Another way to think about it is how in OG maple story the kids had no way to access cash shop goods cause they didn't have a debit card. They tried to pivot to gift cards but once they did it was too late.
>>288132666Kids can buy gift cards in physical stores and you can buy digital manga buy paying on convenience stores.https://www.sbpayment.jp/support/how_to_pay/cvs/The problem also mainly seems to apply to children magazines like Corocoro.
>>288132454The comment in the brackets is me, just to clear any potential confusion
>>288124435based based based based
>>288124435>another reason to hate KadokawawowI'm not suggesting anything but I would be glad if their building got burned down.
>>288132610>Why would you want to keep supporting a series that's basically dead?The thing is DB still prints crazy amount of money for them on an annual basis even with no new stuffDB merch always sells, the original manga still sells, the anime whenever it's available or being broadcasted on TV or streamed in an official capacity makes them money, the gacha game makes them crazy money etc.The franchise was worth 20 billion dollars back in 2004, now it's probably 50 billionWhen Super was running, even though it was crap, and even in the years after that when Super ended, it was even outselling Gundam for years
>>288132731At that point just print the damn manga and sell it to themAnd no it doesn't just apply to CoroCoroWhen I'm talking about kids I am talking about 8 to 13 year old age group, the traditional Shonen Jump audience, which has seen a huge decline because all of the manga are shit and none of them are aimed at them
>>288124435TT hasn't been good in yearsI skip most episodes now
>>288132416Well, yes. I never said digital is better, it' just a different medium that is on the rise now. Print has been on a decline for a good while now and probably not a trend that will ever be reversed.So the publisher has to work with the demands of a different generation.
>>288133210I think what would fix that is having more shonen romance manga and action manga that's full of ugly edgy guys that are super pointy and have cuhrayzee hair and tattoos.
>>288133355I'd support thatI'd love to read that
>>288129582All I'm taking away from this is that all the conspiracies about editors changing shit are true.If a story suddenly does some bullshit out of nowhere it's most likely the editor's fault.
>>288132422stop being retarded. Idolshitters actually have the capital to invest in their delusions. Isekaisloppers are intellectually and financially broke.
>>288133210>8 to 13 year old age group, the traditional Shonen Jump audienceThat's really more the Corocoro audience. Jump is older than that.
>>288133426They are the same people retard.
>>288133535
>>288133355>Another shonen romance with a male character people hate, can't remember, and isn't allowed to look distinct, attractive and not be a wimp. People can't be bothered to remember his name so he is just called MC.>Get another female true Mary Sue self insert who is there to be loved unconditionally and sell merch>An action series with nothing but ugly men and one or two girls to sell merch(I CANT WAKE UP)
>>288133210Printing has become too expensive and manga magazines are inconveniently large.
>>288133599The funny thing is we are in the year 2026 and people refuse to accept that paper is heavy and also expensive.
>>288131610>Just watch old anime, read manga and play lnsNever beating the adhd allegations zoomer.
>>288133642Not really. In Japan, manga took off because they were printing magazine on the cheapest paper available, sort of a bastard child between newspaper and sandpaper.
>>288131486Sorry I'm not edgy enough for you. I try to keep it on /pol/ because it's annoying when every board turns into /pol/
>>288133881I think there's a reason why anon said 2026
>>288132622Japan has a corporate culture where companies are expected to hire people who just finished their studies and in exchange, they are expected to work there all their life.In the 90s a economic crisis caused companies to stop hiring at all, meaning that many people couldn't find a job at all.Those people are called the Lost Generation because they were forced into working shitty deadends jobs regardless of their actual skills.Their only alternative were either to find an unicorn that would hire them or make their own companies in a recessive economy.The LG are the main consumer of isekai and narou works because it remind them of themselves.And we're literally on the verge of seeing another Lost Generation.
>>288124461Nah it's wattpad
>>288124444Royal Road, but Japanese.Think of it as engagement bait, but in written form. Authors are constantly riding whatever is trending in order to catch attention and then get people to donate money to their paterons and stuff for updates. The absolute state of self publishing is hundred of authors writing the same stories in a desperate attempt to get a following.
>>288131006if no politics happens then nothing changesif nothing changes then values are conserved
>>288124713so in other words they are active agents of enshittification?
>>288124069if anyone has the capital to survive a flop, it's Kadokawa
>>288134350the active agent of enshittification is stagnation and comfort.
>>288134382Stability and comfort are good things.You just want consumers to be miserable and poor.
>>288134432What does consumers being miserable and poor have to do with creating anime and manga that isn't all the same?Everything being the same is literally why this is happening
>>288134477What does "creating anime and manga that isn't all the same" have to do with investment funds buying up companies and screaming PROFIT PROFIT PROFIT to them?
>>288134496You're literally advocating for the continuation of the release of shoddy products.
>>288134512shoddy products bring more profitcorpos are not your friend
>>288134529You do realize that shoddy products is an abuse to the customer you're trying to advocate for right?
>>288134540You misunderstand.I'm saying that you are (possibly unknowingly) advocating for (something that in turn advocates for) soddy products that abuse customers
>>288134565And yet as of this moment the customer is getting shoddy products.
>>288121307>Kadokawa having a “quantity over quality” approach to IP creationThat's unironically true
