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Volume 57
Battle
Chapter 538:
https://desuarchive.org/a/thread/274143504

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B&W
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>>288754759
They haven't invented flashlights yet?
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>>288754816
Indirect Kiba slander, even more to come.
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>>288754816
>Kishi trippling down on Choji being a pussy
Ffs
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>>288754855
>Offscreened
Dang
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>>288754769
Kurama getting Naruto's chakra makes no sense to me. Can someone explain?
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>>288754792
WHAT FUCKING HATRED?!
It's the united world against zombies and an evil terrorist.
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>>288754878
Forced rivarly. Also that's teen Sasuke's head on a childs body lmao
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>>288754781
>if your comrades are killed
>if
Don't worry, no one of any importance will die. 40,000 casualties have already been recorded apparently. Half of the entire known world's combined army has been neutralized, and not a single one of Naruto's friends among them! Not even the severely wounded! Isn't that just swell?
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Done!
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>>288755277
Ty for dump
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>>288754781
>If you take down the enemy, THEY'll bear you hatred

...Okay first of all why would Naruto care about the hatred of plants and zombies

More importantly, if Naruto takes down the enemy THE ENEMY IS DEAD. THE DEAD CAN'T HATE IF THEY'RE DEAD
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>>288755277
thanks, OP!
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>>288754837
This feels like another instance of Kishi messing up the timeline.
The scene with Kurenai talking with Hiashi implied main branch Hyuuga, or at least the heirs, didn't become genin under conventional means and that Hinata was deprived of this privilege and went to the academy after being mogged by Hanabi, which is further reinforced by not a single part 1 academy flashback showing her in the background.
Hinata does NOT look old enough to already have been disowned yet.
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>>288754792
>muh hatred
one of the weakest themes of the manga honestly
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>>288754916
>>288754926
>>288755257
>>288755277
Arigatou, OP!
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>>288755087
IIRC, to corroborate Kyuubi's point the anime added a scene where a Zetsu kills a random fodder and a second fodder brutally murders the Zetsu in a fit of rage. It was hilarious.
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https://files.catbox.moe/s1j8dq.jpeg
Roll your wifu
Options
kushina >1-12/65-72.
Tsunade >trips/49-52.
Mikoto >Quads/53-64.
Mei >25-36/85-96.
Shizune >13-24/73-84.
Samui >37-48/97-99.
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>>288754916
that animal abuse! call PETA!
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>>288755417
Lets goo
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>This is Naruto's first time meeting Sasuke
So Naruto wasn't in the academy pre massacre?
How convenient.
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>>288755417
Rollin
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>>288754864
>>288754889

When is this flashback take place, exactly?

If it's before the Uchiha massacre, then it's a huge retcon to make us believe that Sasuke was already a broody edgelord since his birth

If it's after the massacre, then wtf is the point of this scene?
>Back then Sasuke was already filled with hatred
Well duh! His family was murdered! By his own brother! Sasuke was traumatized!
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So, if Naruto JUST entered the academy, how come Hinata already loves him if he hasn't proved he's a loser yet?
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>>288754786
And everyone clapped
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>>288754781
>the enemy will bear your hatred
>that is, Madara and Kabuto that already hate you, a bunch of plant clones, and some zombies who are dead anyway
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>>288754837
Is Kishi just retconning the relationship between Naruto and Sasuke for no reason?
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>>288754781
>If your friends die you will be SAD
>You can't save them all so why even try to fight?
>If you kill your enemies they will HATE you
>You will become HATE and ANGER like Nagato
>>288754786
>Naruto calls Chudrama a retard
But has no counter arguments because if Naruto dismantles these surface level philosophical questions then the themes of Naruto don't really work
>>288754792
>You can't erase everyone's hatred!!! The plant zombies are really fucking mad at you for not letting them kill you!!
>BUT WHAT ABOUT SASUKE?!
>>288754916
>SASUKE SASUKE SASUKE

I never once cared about Kurama, but really reading this conversation.
People say Sasuke shouldn't have been redeemed, what about this piece of shit muppet? Why did Kurama get to become a good boy when he's such a soulless maggot? He's just throwing all the insecurities he can find on Naruto to try and break him. He doesn't care about the cycle of hatred, he just uses the word to get under Naruto's skin. Sasuke attempted to kill his friends and Kurama would have loved for Naruto to give up and let his friends die.
I hate this guy.
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>>288755601
He's Naruto's closest thing to a mascot.
Him being Naruto's powerup also helps.
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>>288755414
>you can kill the zombie that murdered your friends but OH GOD DON'T DON'T HATE IT PLEASE, THE HATE WILL WARP YOU FOREVER
Just like Mustang killing greed
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>>288754753
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>>288755645
Ohhh gooood my eyes
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>>288755378
no one cares about the hyuuga so it's fine
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>>288755597
The more we learn about Naruto's backstory the worse it gets.
Naruto and Sasuke's relationship on chapter 3 genuinely feels awkward knowing they always had le respect for each other.
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>>288755669
>t.
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>>288755645
Wtf
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>>288755601
Sukuna could learn a thing or two from Kurama kek
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>>288755601
>People say Sasuke shouldn't have been redeemed, what about this piece of shit muppet? Why did Kurama get to become a good boy when he's such a soulless maggot?
I always complain about this shit. It's insane that he's suddenly good thanks to a fist bump and some "Humans are le real monsters" back story garbage. Naruto taking his power by force was much better than being besties with the monster that helped murder his parents.
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>Jinchuriki are supposed to be the villages' most valuable weapon
>Doesn't even force your own jinchuriki to enter the academy as early as possible
What 5d chess Hiruzen playing?
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>>288755597
It's Kishi realizing he hasn't developed certain relationships and concepts enough to warrant whatever point he seems to want to make, so he takes a shortcut and shoehorns it in through hamfisted flashbacks. He does this time and time again.
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>>288755755
Training in Naruto is useless.
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>>288755597
Remember how Naruto was sometimes together with Kiba/Choji/Shikamaru at school?
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>>288755556
After and besides the obvious to show Naruto always knew Sasuke was full of hatred it's also to finally explain what that finger thing they did in VotE was.
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>Only Choji and Shikamaru are confirmed to have seen pre massacre Sasuke
Indirect ShikaChowank.
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>>288754889
Was this flashback really necessary?
We already knew Naruto was jealous of Sasuke during the academy and that Sasuke was a better student than him. If Kurama wanted to get under Naruto's skin he should've brought up how he lost to him in their VotE fight or their Tenchi Bridge meetup, not this random bullshit sparring match.
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>>288755794
The characters don't know that.
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>>288754916
Wtf happened here
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Reading the war arc weekly before HE enters has to be a form of torture.
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>>288755891
We're almost there. It finally picks up when our hero enters the battle in chapter 545.
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>>288755891
You have to consider that people who read it weekly were probably getting their biggest enjoyment from speculating who Tobi is and whatever the weekly cliffhanger meant.
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>>288755989
Everyone already knew tobi was Obito for years at this point in the story. Only schizos were posting crack theories about Madara's brother and other stupid shit.
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>>288755989
And also two of the other big three running concurrently I guess
If you didn't like this week's Naruto, you at least had Bleach and One Piece
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>>288756033
Well, people were either posting schizo theories or didn't care that much.
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>>288756025
Looks like shit
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>>288756025
let's just play maple story
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>>288756079
Everyone that cared and wasn't schizo knew it was Obito since Tobi was introduced. The names alone made it incredibly obvious. We spent years laughing at the crazies who couldn't accept the sky being blue.
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>>288755866
Again, it's just a hasty attempt to make up for the fact Nardo and Sauce don't actually have nearly a close enough relationship or history together to warrant the insane obsession the former has with redeeming and saving the latter, as well as further shoehorn the whole "muh hatred" theme Kishi has decided is the entire overarching thing governing everything that happens in the series.
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>>288755807
>Naruto was sad, lonely and unloved, he had no friends and was bullied.
>...except he had multiple opportunities to befriend his classmates.
>And he was never bullied outside of being called stinky (ONCE), parents just told kids to not interact with him and those kids followed suit when Naruto became a delinquent.
>Oh and Hinata loved him before he was even really a loser.
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>>288755989
I was there, the war still felt like a drag.
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Hiashi won.
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>>288756275
I swear to god
At this point I could believe little kid Gaara and his siblings interractedwith Naruto in one of these flashbacks
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>>288755929
SOLO GOD
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>>288754786
,kay, so what's your plan nauto?
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>>288756481
Same plan he ran by Nagato
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>>288756275
B-BUT NARUTO WAS ALONE ON A SWING WHEN THE WHOLE VILLAGE SURROUNDED HIM IN A WHITE SPACE AND LAUGHED AT HIM PLEASE BELIEVE KISHIIIIIIII
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>>288754781
Motherfucker, nobody gives a fuck about Akatsuki's hatred
There are basically two living people on their side and they're both insane terrorists
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>>288756522
Which is what, "just believe me bro it'll be different this time"?
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>>288756577
Nooo hatred will cease to exist if Naruto... uhhh... if he does what again? Not fight them?
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>>288754769
>>288754781
>>288754786
wow! i'm scared
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>>288754816
kyaaaa
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>>288754829
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>>288754792
>>288754781
Something tells me that Zetsu spam was a later addition and the war arc, just like Pain's invasion, was supposed to involve Obito taking over Amegakure and using similar lesser villages as puppets
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>>288756902
Can't have Naruto ramble about peace, cycle of hatred, etc. as easily as he does if the other side wasn't composed of mostly zombies.
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>>288756577
This. Literally no one came to avenge Hidan.
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>>288754837
>>288754846
>>288754855
>>288754870
>>288754878
what's naruto's problem, provoked out of nowhere.
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>>288756623
Yes :)
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>>288756984
Pain did.
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>>288754804
>>288754816
>>288754829
>>288754837
>>288754846
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288754878
lmao those adult faces on kids. kishii
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>>288754855
>>288754864
>>288754870
>>288754878
>Creating new team 7 flashbacks this deep in the manga
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the more i reread naruto the less i sympathize with naruto uzumaki.
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>>288757076
I always thought he was an insufferable retard, especially in part 2. At least in part 1 he had the excuse of being a dumb 12 y/o, but it's harder to excuse him being so annoying and self-righteous when he's older and supposed to be more mature.
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>>288752622
madoka and homura
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>>288757076
Who do you sympathize with?
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>>288757205
you *smooch*
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>>288757205
Lee.
>introduced and hyped the fuck up
>shown to be given absolutely nothing in life and not letting it stop him
>working his ass off more than everyone else to make up for his shortcomings
>has one of the best fights in the entire series
Then
>loses every fight in a humiliation ritual to ensure he doesn't get too popular
>completely and utterly sidelined when part 2 begins
>replaced by Guy who is just shown to be Lee, but better
Lee's mere existence pissed either Kishi or the editors off so much they demanded he be humiliated for the rest of the manga for the irreparable damage he did in LOSING to Gaara.
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>>288757218
Thanks, I knew I'm not the only one that thinks she deserved better!
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>>288755891
Not really. The war arc was a lot more tolerable when nobody knew what was coming next. It sucks now because we all know how shitty it is.
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>>288757037
Real uncanny valley shit, they look like midgets
>>288757076
Same
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This thread is really shitty. You all don't talk about anything interesting.
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>>288757248
>>shown to be given absolutely nothing in life and not letting it stop him
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>>288757205
For me it's Gaara:
>Isolated from everyone from a young age
>Family tried to kill him over and over
>Family said he wasn't loved by anyone
>Monster kept him from sleeping for years
>Wasn't able to commit sudoku

vs. Naruto:

>Probably just raised in an orphanage with the other kids
>Hiruzen made it so the kids didn't know he was the jinchuuriki
>Adults shunned him but he still could have made friends with kids or animals
>Didn't make friends because he was an asshole
>Said he could have ended up the same as Gaara anyway

Naruto's the real psycho. Anyone would be pushed to the edge by the shit Gaara endured, Naruto was ready to snap and go ham on people for giving him mean looks.
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>>288756894
This never happened
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>>288756025
Kys shill
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>>288757248
Irc, wasn't Lee stated to have been straight up bullied for not having chakra control?
Lol, he might have suffered more than Naruto.
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>>288755277
Goodjob pedo.
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>>288757367
It's canon that Naruto creates transformed shadow clones of his ex-crush and best friend to kiss in front of him while he does hokage work
It's the only thing that keeps him going
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>>288757450
In reality both Sasuke and Sakura take turns in the cuck chair to watch BVLLruto being kissed.
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>>288757520
The guy who keeps screeching about pedophile ops? Yeah that's a mental case
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After almost 2 days of trying, /nart/ still fell into Archiveland >>288713863
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>>288757520
Yeah, Sakon is pretty pathetic. Almost feel bad for him, then i remember he's a faggot pedo. He's definitely a mental case.
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>>288754829
fuck off 8 year old sakura.
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>>288757663
But anon, this IS /nart/
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>>288757663
>totally not obsessed
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>>288754870
>all this time, all of Sasuke's problems with Naruto started from being left handed and not fitting in with the right handed gang signs and secret handshakes
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this chapter could've been a text message.
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>>288757814
Hatred is bad or something...
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>>288754829
>Give Naruto what he deserves!
A hug? Pat on the head? Friendship? Sakura-chan is so caring even at such a young age!
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>>288754781
>if you kill the two (2) people who have autonomy on the enemy side those two (2) people will hate you
This argument would be a lot more compelling if the entire enemy force didn't consist of plantpeople and zombies (who wish they were dead in the majority of cases we've seen).
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>>288755393
It could have been better if the war wasn't waged on literal bots. What the FUCK was Kishi thinking?
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>>288754829
Yeah what Sakura said! FUCK UP the shunned orphan child!
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>>288757855
Everytime it comes up it’s the same shit
>you can’t stop hatred
>look at nagato, that dude was HATEFUL
> how do you think you can stop it you are baby
>flashback
>naruto: I will stop the cycle of hate
>wow he’s so cool, totally changed my viewpoint with one sentence
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Honestly I struggle to believe academy Naruto would get caught slippin by academy sauceman like that. Even back then he was casually evading ANBU.
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mhwah...!
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>>288758134
That did not happen.
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>>288758134
Yikes, did he actually just KISS SAKURA? No wonder they have him bound up in a straitjacket. Send this man back to the Konoha Mental Asylum, STAT.
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>>288756894
omgee nawudo wooks sho hwappy mawwied to heenatha
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Where is Sasuke anyway? It's been 500 chapters since he got his new eyes?
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>>288754916
Funny how they become best buddies like 10h after this abuse.
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I see why you guys keep talking about metadrama...these threads are garbage without it lol
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>>288757186
B A S E D
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>>288758299
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>>288754916
>Kurama desperately trying to convince Naruto to stay out of the conflict
>Naruto starwa at his own reflection in Kurama's eye as he screams
>*I* will save Sasuke
>*I* will stop this war
>A war fought by a global alliance never seen before, to keep Naruto away from the enemy lest the world will end
>Kurama realizing Naruto's motives has only ever been about himself
>The selfish whirlpool that is Naruto Uzumaki
>Sucking everything into his void
KISHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII
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>>288758510
You're trying too hard.
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>>288758510
Kino
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>>288758556
It's called symbolism. Naruto is a deconstruction of the Shonen "hero."
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*masurbates to sasuke uchiha*
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>>288758754
Sakura...
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>>288754816
What is up with Akamaru's size? He remains puppy size for like four years and then gets a massive growth spurt.
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>>288758754
Stop that, Suigetsu.
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>DO YOU REALLY THINK YOU CAN END THIS WAR ALL BY YOURSELF?!
Um, yes.
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>>288755601
>Why did Kurama get to become a good boy
I think it's one of the better arcs. Kurama has already bailed Naruto out of major fights throughout this story. When Naruto asks him directly to play nice, he can't even argue. It happens "quickly" because he was already there against Haku, Gaara, Neji, etc. Now it's Madara, the guy who enslaved him in the first place. The war arc gave them, and everyone else really, a definitive common enemy. An excuse to just make their dynamic formal instead of chaotic.

Like old buddy cop movies. They don't like each other. But they're stuck with each other and work it out.
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>>288758908
It's retarded how Kurama is supposedly the most hateful and hardest to befriend though.
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>>288758134
Can confirm this happened.
i was the chaid.
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>>288758908
You sound very stupid.
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>>288756806
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>>288759006
BASED INO
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>>288754837
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>>288759034
Ugly ahh character
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>>288759047
We can say ass around these parts, sir.
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Thank you to the daily kages that protect us from shitty Naruto generals that archive before they even hit 350 posts.
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>>288759006
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>>288759069
Dumb ahh post
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>>288759096
Don't you mean duh ahh poh
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idk, i feel like they would get drunk and get into horny drunk state and kiss each other haha.....ha....
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Thank you to Kishimoto who protects the children with shitty Naruto generals that are samefagged and necro-bumped before they're able to archive.
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>>288757060
They were at that academy for how many years?
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>ino
>naruto
>tsunade
so many blonde bitches in sakura's life
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>Let's go, Kurama!
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>>288754916
Shartruto did not need to choke out Kurama like this with the asspull neck crusher thing
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>>288759129
Ino would break both of those bitches with her Futanari Chinko no Jutsu.
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>>288759034
BEST girl. BEST wife.
Naruto? WON.
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>>288759228
>Futanari Chinko no Jutsu.
I'm not familiar with this jutsu, but it sounds powerful. Could you explain it a little for me?
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>>288759213
He wanted to demonstrate control. Kurama dared to question our mc...
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>>288758754
*masurbates to sakura toes*
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>>288759129
Where is Tenten
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>>288759181
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>>288757663
>Checks threads
>Posters genuinely arguing over Sasuke Uchiha repopulating the Uchiha clan
I hate speedreaders so much it's unreal.
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>>288757205
I agree with the other 2. Lee and Gaara are far more sympathetic.
And Neji, too. His beliefs on fate are pretty understandable considering the shit he went through as a kid (and because, y'know, he ended up being right about everything).
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>>288759285
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>>288759285
Drinking with Samui and Yugito.
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>>288757355
People keep showcasing this panel as proof that Lee is naturally talented, but the original japanese text was clearly indicating that Kakashi was wondering if Lee really is a genius instead of outright calling him one. (because of the か)
Also, Lee being a genius just breaks the entire point of his character, when he is all about being ungifted and hardworking. It just doesn't make sense for a one-note random panel to ruin that.
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Are we back to the weird russian larp?
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>>288759442
Lee is a genius in learning gates, he learned over half of them in a single year.
We've seen both Tenten and Neji attempt to learn them but they failed.
Talent isn't a vertical line.
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>>288759442
Nah, he's pretty much calling him a genius. The か is pretty much the same as in そっか.
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>>288755051
so basically both the chakra transfer process and the barrier keeping kyuubi separate from his taken chakra are inefficient. while he's taking from the separated pook of kyuubi's chakra the fox can take from his. the dangers are kyuubi has a lot of persistent willpower to take lots of chakra at once and naruto has a lot less chakra to lose. if he loses all of his own chakra he'll die and the beast will emerge at some point. likewise if he loses the struggle of wills at any point the fox takes over and he becomes both a dangerous liability and an easy target
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>>288759495
>そっか
That doesn't indicate 100% certainty.
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>>288759561
Doesn't need to.
The message is clear.
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>>288754781
>oh no so like 3 people will hate me including the guy i'm trying to force home in the first place
not that naruto knows that
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>>288759587
What message? Kakashi barely knows Lee while Guy who is his mentor constantly calls him not a genius.
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>>288759623
Anon, we literally saw Neji and Tenten fail to learn how to open even the first gate.
Kakashi himself only dares to open the first gate because anything else will just cripple him on the spot, Lee is talented in that department.
If using gates was that easy everyone would have it.
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>>288759678
>Anon, we literally saw Neji and Tenten fail to learn how to open even the first gate.
The whole point of that was to show that Lee worked harder than them to achieve it. He didn't unlock it because he was more talented than them. The Chunin Exams beats you over the head with how Neji is more "talented" than Lee.
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>>288759730
>The whole point of that was to show that Lee worked harder than them to achieve it. He didn't unlock it because he was more talented than them.
You do realize that Neji has been training since he was 3 years old like every other Hyuuga child, right?
So you are telling me that, 12 years old pre part 1 Lee has trained MORE than his teammates by war as well as Kakashi in his entire life?
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>>288757037
>>288757279
some kids are like that, where you can tell how they'll age just looking at them. frankly i applaud his commitment to letting some of the kids look like the potato faces theyoften are
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>>288759730
The fact that Kakashi even thinks about the possibility implies gates aren't supposed to be something you can just get by doing push ups every day.
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>>288755277
thanks op.
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>>288759730
>Maito Dai took 20 years to learn all 8 gates
>Lee learned 6 (nearly 7) of them in 5 years, with first 5 gates being learned in first year of trained
Yeah, clearly just training.
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>>288759779
>>288759810
>>288759849
Just because Kishi is shit at writing doesn't change the message he was trying to send.
Naruto is also supposed to be a hard worker like Lee but he learned most of his jutsus in less than a week.
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>>288759779
>Neji
He was self taught and still learned the Hyuga techniques by himself that were kept secret by the main family, while Lee was guided by Guy.
>>288759849
>Maito Dai
Was also supposed to be a talentless loser and was self taught too iirc.
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>>288758780
i think the inuzuka dogs have unusual growth that gives them both longevity and other attributes to be lifetime partners with their shinobi
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>>288759891
slit your throat worthless ai chud
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>>288754816
god iruka is so fucking useless as a teacher. no wonder naruto didn't learn any jutsu beside the ones he taught himself
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>>288757367
yeah saske'd actually have to be home for that
hhheeeeeyyyoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
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>>288758274
>>288756894
>ai editfag is a narusakufag also
not surprised
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>>288754816
>Akamaru is a puppy when Kiba is around 8, and is still a puppy when he's 12-13
hm
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bait hours. time to sleep.
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>>288759891
Thats actually believable.
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>>288759047
>>288759104
i know we have an advertisers problem but they amount of mental cuckery needed to youtube censor yourself on 4chan is only achievable by being a plant
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>>288759897
I feel like it would've been better if Akamaru stayed as a puppy or small dog. Kiba constantly walking around with a lion-sized dog next to him can feel kind of awkward.
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where boruto thread
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>>288759859
No, the fact Kakashi even says that line means this was intentional on Kishi's end.
|The twist is that everyone is talented at SOMETHING.
>>288759877
>while Lee was guided by Guy.
Neji and Tenten literally have the same mentor as Lee and they were training together when Lee learned the first gate.
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>>288754753
This chapter only exists as yet another half-assed attempt at foreshadowing the ninja jesus reincarnations
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>>288755601
>Why did Kurama get to become a good boy when he's such a soulless maggot?
tbf kurama has done nothing but bail nardo out of almost every fight since the start of part 1 so imo he's more deserving of redemption than sauce and infinitely more so than "coolest guy" obito. And nacho is a fucking faggot who openly lusts for terrorist edgelord cock so why should anyone treat him with decency?
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You do realize that Lee being better than average at learning a self-damaging move does not negate all his hardwork, right?
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>>288760157
>No, the fact Kakashi even says that line means this was intentional on Kishi's end.
It clearly didn't, because the story continues to treat Lee like he's a talentless hard worker after that panel, almost as if that panel only existed for Kakashi to glaze Lee and believe that he -might- be a genius.
>Neji and Tenten literally have the same mentor as Lee
...and they didn't work as hard as he did. The manga literally shows a flashback of Lee working extra hard while Guy watches.
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>>288759706
why does the gedo statue get it's own spot? other summons haven't so far. will tailed beasts get their own spots?
also has it really shown itself to be in a whole new tier of it's own? all it did was tank choji's punch and slap some fodder around
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>>288755028
i'm not sure how offscreened it was, the way sakura reacts it seems like he was on the ground by the end of the rush
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>>288760065
WAKE UP
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>>288757359
>Kid grows up without stable family or role models
>"Just make friends bro"
Come on now.
In real life we have seen where this can lead.
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>>288760168
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>>288760304
>It clearly didn't, because the story continues to treat Lee like he's a talentless hard worker after that panel
When exactly is Lee treated as this extra hardworker in the context of gates after his fight with Gaara?
>...and they didn't work as hard as he did. The manga literally shows a flashback of Lee working extra hard while Guy watches
You want to me that Lee, kicking a tree and jumping ropes in his spare time during missions, completely outweights all the years that Neji trained before Lee even went to the academy as well as the 5-6 years of training Tenten had with Gai after being part of his team?
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Neji could learn 64 palms and Rotations just on try and error as well as just understanding how those techniques work, but he never got the hang of gates.
It just takes a diffrent kind of talent to master those unlike everything else that relies on chakra control.
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>>288760384
>When exactly is Lee treated as this extra hardworker in the context of gates after his fight with Gaara?
It's literally the entire point of his fight with Gaara and his rivarly with Neji.
>You want to me that Lee, kicking a tree and jumping ropes in his spare time during missions, completely outweights all the years that Neji trained before Lee even went to the academy as well as the 5-6 years of training Tenten had with Gai after being part of his team?
Yes, because >>288759859
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>>288754792
why is he acting lke a lil bitch all of a sudden.
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>>288754816
yellow sakura
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>>288760432
>It's literally the entire point of his fight with Gaara and his rivarly with Neji.
In that fight we are informed gates aren't something the average joe can master in a year and we also saw that Neji couldn't get them despite being a genius.
>Yes, because >>288759859
There's absolutely no contradition, Tenten and Neji didn't learn hidden gates because they didn't have the knat for it unlike Lee.
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Lee glaze really just comes off at the expense of other characters, eh?
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>>288760356
Naruto did admit however that Gaara had it worse than him thanks to Iruka coming in.
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>>288760473
>In that fight we are informed gates aren't something the average joe can master in a year
And we also learn that Lee trained much harder than "average joes".
>we also saw that Neji couldn't get them despite being a genius.
The whole point is that he didn't work hard enough to attain it. Christ you're a disingenuous moron.
>There's absolutely no contradition, Tenten and Neji didn't learn hidden gates because they didn't have the knat for it unlike Lee.
You keep making the same argument over and over again. Idk what else to tell you other than you're a retard.
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>>288760482
How is it glazing to say one throwaway panel disregards the entire point of a character.
I'm not even defending Lee, I'm just saying it's straight up retarded to think he's a genius when his entire role is to be talentless and a hard worker, kek.
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I can't believe "people" are still arguing about MUH HARDWORK NO MUH GENETICS when it's one of the more minor issues with this asinine story.
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>>288754916
underrated panel
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>>288760335
>NO! BAD DOG!
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>>288760543
>And we also learn that Lee trained much harder than "average joes".
You're claiming that Lee also training magnitudes harder than people twice his age.
>The whole point is that he didn't work hard enough to attain it.
There's absolutely no implication within the Manga saying that Neji didn't train hard enough for gates.
>You keep making the same argument over and over again.
Because you didn't make a single proper argument against it beyond "Kishi is a shitty writer".
>>288760557
Where exactly did i say that panel disregards Lee's character? I literally said the opposite in a previous post.
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>>288760065
I win bitch
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>>288760738
>Diffrent trip
Not falling for this.
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>>288760617
>You're claiming that Lee also training magnitudes harder than people twice his age.
Yes, and?
>There's absolutely no implication within the Manga saying that Neji didn't train hard enough for gates.
There's plenty of implications that say Lee trained harder than Neji.
>Because you didn't make a single proper argument against it beyond "Kishi is a shitty writer".
This is a universe where Naruto, who's also supposed to be a failure like Lee, learned the super secret shadow clone technique in one night and then learned the rasengan in like 2 weeks. Learning powerful techniques really fast in this series isn't an indicator of how talented you are.
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>>288760787
>Yes, and?
And it's objectively delusional.
>There's plenty of implications that say Lee trained harder than Neji.
The implication being Lee's headcanon? Bro doesn't know what Neji does in his spare time or when he started to train.
>This is a universe where Naruto, who's also supposed to be a failure like Lee, learned the super secret shadow clone technique in one night and then learned the rasengan in like 2 weeks.
Except Kishimoto always flip flop Naruto's status when it comes to this, when he fails at learning shit he's a loser, when he learns shit quickly, he's a sleeper prodigy.
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>>288760738
Fakes a trip code lol
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>>288760787
>Naruto, who's also supposed to be a failure like Lee,
>t.fell for Orochimaru's propaganda
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>>288760876
molesting kid Naruko in exchange for candy
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>>288760738
Bringing back long hair Sakura would have redeemed her.
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>>288760958
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>>288754781
Lucky for Naruto that no one dies but also that all his enemies will die as well, so that they can't continue the cycle of hatred somehow
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>>288760874
>And it's objectively delusional.
Not an argument. This is a universe where kids like Haku and Deidara are stronger than Kakashi.
>The implication being Lee's headcanon? Bro doesn't know what Neji does in his spare time or when he started to train.
That's clearly not what the story is trying to say.
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>>288761077
>This is a universe where kids like Haku and Deidara are stronger than Kakashi.
And that's due to them being prodigies, not because they trained harder.
>That's clearly not what the story is trying to say.
When exactly does the stroy say Neji doesn't train hard enough?
If anything it's the opposite, the story points how he himself doesn't believe in his own view of hardwork since he trains his butt off.
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>>288761077
>A in a 1 thousand prodigy and a guy who made modifications to his body means Lee trained more than anyone else
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Funny thing is, at the start of the chunin exams, Sasuke tells Sakura that she should be more worried on training after missions than on date and that she was effectively lazier than Naruto.
Which seems to imply that training after missions is THE NORM rather than something only Lee was doing, so it's even LESS likely that Lee prior to being with Gai trained more than Neji.
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>>288760738
Based
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>>288758510
>Naruto is a misunderstood story about selfishness
Kino, kishi should have gone with that
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>>288761152
>A in a 1 thousand prodigy
Good morning sirs
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>>288760617
The SD manga shows that Lee's fault is he's too eccentric to be the main character. Orochimaru and the Akatsuki can't handle his strangeness
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>>288761152
>and a guy who made modifications to his body
Deidara giving himself mouth arms didn't automatically make him kage tier, kek.
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>>288760968
Never understood why she didn’t get her hair long again when hinata got her short hair.
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>>288761363
There's more than one type of ESL, you know!
>>288761428
Of course it didn't, Deidara is a prodigy himself.
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>>288757520
>He'll tire himself out and all "activity" will all stop at once.
Called it
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>>288754916
>Kurama's POV from that eye
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>>288762361
Thanks for the bump, faggot.
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>>288762645
>the bump
Proof?
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>>288762678
You posted nearly an hour after the last post.
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>>288762700
Dumb dumb
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>>288762738
No, that's exactly how necro bumping works.
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>>288762766
Retard
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>>288756601
is manabu akado the best character? the eternal genin... tried and failed to take the first exam 10+ times and still never passed...
man, naruto has great background characters... i wish we got a filler about him.
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Another dead daily general thread. Bravo.
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>>288757037
so better than westerm comic artists.

>>288757172
i liked him in part 1 because he was a funny brat and retard. but part 2 just has him obsess over sasuke all the time and he becomes a boring character and cuckish with how he just lets people beat him up for sasuke's sake as sasuke tries to spit on their barely established friendship.
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>>288757359
don't forget that some did try to kill naruto for pulling a stupid prank from naruto's pov.
i liked gaara's edgy backstory more but they also ruined it later with pointless retcons and made rasa and yashamaru retards instead of just being assholes, which was cooler.
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Why is this general so much worse than the previous one and storytimes?
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>>288759181
i hate how they anthropmophized kurama
he looked so much cooler as a monstrous fox instead of... whatever he is now. a fox man...
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>>288759331
funnily enough, i was just talking to someone about how westerners don't understand sasuke's motivation. they get confused by him saying he wanted to restore his clan (to its glory days).
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>>288762792
What helps you sleep at night.
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>>288762930
Why do you keep asking the same question knowing you will get the same answers?
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>>288762966
funnily enough, Naruto is a mange for teenagers and you were likely talking to an idiot if they don't understand any part of this story.
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>>288762930
I guarantee you that if the 2023 storytime went beyond part 1 it would be on this level of shitness.
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>>288759442
he still says "that's not something that can be achieved through effort".
then he wonders if lee's a genius after all.
imo there's still an implication that lee is a genius.
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>>288763008
Tbf, that one was shitty even without part 2. Also very forgettable.
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>>288763036
I thought it was fine for what it was until the hijacks made the threads go through multiple OP/dumpers.
It took a good damn day to dump the volume where Sasuke got beaten by the sound 4 because OP couldn't find the time to post the whole thing at once.
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>>288762989
there are a lot of idiots here then...
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OP's house suffering from a blackout while Kiba was beating Naruto was some high quality shitposting desu.
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>>288763084
Nta, but that's a given.
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>>288763084
I mean, you're here, so checks out.
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>>288763263
rood
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>>288763290
My b
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>>288763104
what? lol. screenshot?

>>288763263
fair enough, but at least i don't schizo post the entire thread like the 1 or 2 village idiots.
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I really hope it isn't Retardsuke bringing up that 2023 storytime and pretending he was there.
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it's an interesting thought that gaara might've been more likely to listen to temari and avoid hurting her because she looked like karura/yashamaru while kankuro looked like rasa.
but she also seemed to not really get on his case unlike kankuro, who would try to boss gaara around sometimes.
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>>288763364
https://desuarchive.org/a/thread/247966393/#247966393
Here you go champ.
>>288763570
I'm the one bringing that up, actually.
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>>288761261
It's even in the flashback. Naruto didn't think
>Who was he looking at?
>Why is he so intense?
But
>Sasuke isn't looking at ME
And why does Naruto despise Sasuke in the academy? Because he's Mr. Popular.
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>>288763638
I guess that makes sense but I don't think he hated Kankuro for being more like their father
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>>288754864
>forcing little boys to fight
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>>288754889
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>>288754916
>not a single word more about sauce-sama
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>>288756894
>I kissed them both first
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>>288754753
Official new sakura art.
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SZ modders unironically mod anything bamco has ever made with the storm games
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_9GTCcfSg4
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>>288764264
meant to say mog there.
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>>288763645
lmao. thank you.
the actual discussion was pretty fun too when the chapters were being posted. part 1 is so based
also, how DID gaara know he was going to be next? or did he just not care and was going to force a fight regardless because hinata's blood made him schizo?

>>288763872
yeah, not necessarily. but an interesting thought nonetheless.

>>288764074
hiruzen wanting to watch kids fight is one of the funniest naruto shitposts.
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WHERE IS MY NARUTO TAG FIGHTER BAMCO!?!?
AAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHH!!!
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>>288754759
Bee ruins every single page he has to insert his shitty rhymes
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>>288754837
Isn't this the war arc? yet another useless flashback to when Naruto and Sasuke were kids?
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>>288754781
>If your comrades are killed, hatred will arise from their deaths.
40,000 of Naruto's comrades were killed in a single day, and there's only 2 people to direct that hatred towards.
This isn't the argument you think it is, Kurama.
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>>288755393
I don't think it's an inherently bad theme, but having the entire opposing side be zombies and hivemind homunculi doesn't allow the theme to exist at all.
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>>288763570
Who cares?
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>>288764359
>hiruzen wanting to watch kids fight is one of the funniest naruto shitposts
Has this daily/general come up with any original memes for Naruto?
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>>288762930
Storytime went by volume, and it happened during covid. For some people it was the first time reading or re-reading since Naruto ended. Like the Dragonball storytime. Less drama.
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>>288765319
Depends on how original we're talking, people have talked about how Obito must have had a "Hinata" of his own or how Hiruzen was fucked in the head before the first storytime, but i'm assuming you mean being posted more than every once in a while.
I guess there's Konoha girls posting/"this would've killed Sasuke/Lee".
Tsunade being a terrible leader.
And Sakon (the character) being too dumb and stupidly confident in his squadmates to be a believable leader.
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>>288765480
Funny enough.
DB was storytimed like 5-6 times since 2020 to now, with the last one being the most active.
Jojo was also storytimed 4 times, with 2 of them focusing on an specific part while the rest went all the way to the last finished part.
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>>288762930
>general
You're the guy who spent basically all of 2025 trying to kill this daily because it "stole posters" from your shitpost threads (that was all bull btw).
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>>288764153
niceeeeeeeeeeee
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>>288760738
i woke up
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>>288765763
I don't need to kill something that's already dead
>stole posters" from your shitpost threads
Anon, there's like 3 regulars in this general, why would anyone try to "steal" them? These threads only ever stay alive because of the drama or samefagging. I'm not making any theads on this dying board. Schizo.
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>>288764703
funny. he's fairly popular in the west but nips agree with you that he's annoying. they don't tend to like loud mouthed troublemakers i guess.
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>>288754759
Kurama is right, this is such a stupid waste of chakra.
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Naruto trading the Kyuubi’s body horror for “Super Saiyan BS” was one of the worst decisions in the series’ finale. I always liked that Naruto’s inner beast was ugly and hurt him. The series traded away a powerful image that worked so well for the sake of this friendship thing. By far the worst plot twist in the series. A lot of the tailed beast retcons worked well for the series’ broader themes. But in the end, you can feel the toy manufacturers’ hand in it: “Make the monsters chibi and cute, because you need money. And we do, too.” And like, Akatsuki is still the most popular thing about the series. And it’s the edgiest thing ever. It’s like these decrepit boomers just don’t know how to make money.
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>>288754759
Wait, why IS he a glowie? They can't see in the dark? How about Bee take off the sunglasses?
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>>288754804
>>288754816
>>288754829
>>288754837
>>288754855
>>288754864
>>288754870
>>288754878
look at ALL these glup shitto trainees that either washed out or became faceless genin
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>>288760560
lee vs. gaara mindbroke the fanbase and its effects were detrimental to naruto as a long running series.
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>>288755715
sukuna was too myopically evil and self-centered to even fathom allying with yuuji unless he could manipulate him. it helped that he was a lot smarter than yuuji and only lost due to literal psyop hax
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See if Naruto gave Kurama a Stone Cold Stunner they would have become friends way sooner.
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>>288764153
She makes a splash of piss
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who else finds this scene cringe.
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>>288765942
Kishimoto ruined your life
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Can I get a reminder, someone said people can't see Naruto's face marks, is that true?
Was it just a design choice to make Naruto stand out?
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>>288769579
Narutos facemarks are real. Its a side effect of Kuramas chakra leaking into him during pregnancy. He has three since he was directly influenced by the chakra he could have had more. Boruto and Himawari have less since they only had the DNA ones and Borutos children will either have none or less and Himawaris children will likely have more. The whiskers are part of his DNA. Outside of meta its a carryover from when Naruto was about a fox spirit named naruto hiding as a human child from his dad kurama.
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>>288769648
Do you know how retarded that sounds
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>>288769810
Yes. It does. But we are talking about a world where people are ninja that throw around magic and there are thermonuclear devices inserted into people and two dudes who are the rebirth of two other dudes are on a quest to violently murk eachother no matter what and by chance both are the equivalent of a nuclear arsenal. Does it really sound outlandish to say that Kuramas hatred fueld chakra had an effect on an embryo to give him fox-like feautures which resulted from his genome being deformed by Kuramas chakra which this resulted in the whiskers becoming actual physical traits?
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>>288759104
heh
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>>288754864
GAY
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>>288769926
>both are the equivalent of a nuclear arsenal
Can you explain Sasuke relation to this
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>>288756038
What was going on in bleach and op when these chapters were published?
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>>288754837
Why did the anime >>288759034 change her to a moeblob? It makes her look dislikeable and shallow.
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>>288769926
Part 1 naruto lore was good.
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Naruto as son of Kurama sounds better than just him being a human.
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>>288770367
You ever seen the list of shit Sasuke can pull off? All paths of pain, chidori, amaterasu, amenotejikara, several susanoo's, the rinnegan, the yin powers of the sage of six paths, Indras Arrow, fucking Kirin. Dude is so overstacked with shit that could level an area.
>>288770488
Simpler times anon.
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>>288770515
>You ever seen the list of shit Sasuke can pull off?
I skipped it
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>>288769648
>>288769926
gold
>>288769810
mold
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>>288769648
>>288769926
>>288770515
post more. i love you
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>>288770537
Reasonable. Whole franchise is a mess.
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Huge:
Shino

Big:
Neji

Average:
Lee
Naruto (Sai was just breaking balls)
Shikamaru

Small:
Choji

Tiny:
Kiba
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>>288770515
I miss the nine tail fox being a spirit and not some big chungus. Same with shukaku being a sand spirit.
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>>288771043
What about sasuke
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>>288771043
Naruto has a micro penise
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>>288771534
Its big
Hinata knows she has seen it...
It might be the real reason to her passing out all the time..
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>>288771534
It's impossible to say, really, since we have two contradictory statements, one from Sai saying it's small, and one from Kiba saying its a third leg.
But, in Naruto's case size doesn't matter, because Kitsune have always been known as legendary lovers.
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>>288771534
Yes, Naruto has a small penise. That is the REAL reason he never wore Gai's green jumpsuit. He didn't want to humiliate himself.
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>>288771406
Average. Bordering on big.
>>288771534
You think the son of the yellow flash is a microdick? No way
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>>288771618
When exactly has Kiba stated Naruto is packing?
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>>288771581
Anon, Hinata is exactly the kind of woman to be either into or unbothered by small cocks.
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>>288771657
He inherited it from his Uzumaki side.
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>Sai was lying!!!
Coperuto hours?
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Look at how dewardi sussed this thread is they are all talking about a fictional 15 year olds manhood.
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>>288771381
Same.
>>288771618
In the japanese dub Sai actually says his "tool" is below average and not small. So the assumption should be Kiba is tiny, Naruto is average and Sai has a huge one.

Do their dick sizes even matter? Most of them either already have kids or will never marry because they cant.
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>>288771955
Burrito is not cannon.
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>>288771657
Kushina is a size queen imagine trying to please her in bed with all her endurance.
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>>288772089
But is is. As much as we all agree Boreuto sucks.
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>>288771796
You know what they say about the innocent looking ones.
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>>288771618
>and one from Kiba saying its a third leg.
Which fanfiction did you take that from?
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I noticed. This is really gay. We are talking about dudes dicks when we could be straight and ask what kinda pubes the chicks have and if the carpet matches the drapes or how they would feel when fucking.
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>>288772344
I mean, women who are into small cocks are more likely to be sex demons since they should be able to make the most of what they got.
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Why is Kiba getting strays?
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>>288772407
Personally I already had a discussion with another anon a few chapters ago about the state of Sakura, Tsunade, and Shizune's pubic hair.
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>>288772684
Those three would be the same. Student and teacher thing. I mean the other females.
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>>288772684
>>288772737
Are they hairy.
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>>288772407
Ok out of the girls who has the fattest and tightest pussy
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>>288772141
Minato was just build different
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>>288773027
Yea he cried for sure.
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>>288773048
Holy shit that's accurate imo
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>>288773072
>Kushina femdomed Minato to the point he cried

Hot
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>>288772908
Tsunade is the hairiest and doesnt shave at all. Shizune shaves sometimes based on her mood but she keeps it about the same size as Tsunade. Sakura shapes it up but keeps the thick bush because thats what she always saw on Tsunade and Shizune during their daily baths after medical nin training.
>>288772957
Depends. Whats the cutoff point for judgement?
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>>288773115
What do you mean cut off point for judgement?
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>>288773107
Minato and Kushina might make a good fit for that 'guy tired from sex' meme
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>>288773158
During Boruto, during Shippuden. Nefariously one could say the tightest is Moegi in part 1 but thats not a real answer. And for the fattest you could probably say Chouchou since she is fat. Do we count Tsunade with her jutsu enabled or as an actual old lady? Hinata before childbirth is probably the tightest just based on how she has to fight with gentle fist, Ino would have the fattest from the fact that she likely had to go eating food a lot with choji so she likely kept a higher weight on average.
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>>288773267
Forget boruto get that out of your head.
just think of boruto as another series we are talking about the girls in naruto - naruto shippuden.
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>>288772407
>gay series about 2 gays has gay discussion during gay month
No shit.
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>>288773398
Tighest by jutsu is Tsunade, naturally tightest is Hinata or Tenten.
Fattest would probably be Hinata because she is always naturally drawn with more curves then all of the other girls ever were even during part 1. Or as I mentioned Ino due to Team 10 but she diets or Samui because she is naturally stacked which means she would have more fat on the mons pubis or Anko since she has already shown signs of fatness during Shippuden and way before Boruto.
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>>288768310
Faggot
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>>288773931
What?
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>>288772407
Well, when OP is a faggot pedo, what do you expect?
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>>288773680
>naturally tightest is Hinata

maybe but also the most busted by way of actually giving birth twice, unlike practically every other female character.



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