AI animation is getting better and the future scares me
>>288929620not me, I like it
>>288929620cascadeur?
if I find out a studio is using AI I'm not going to watch their shitsimple as
>>288929620Good morning, saaar
>>288929678Nice pantsu
>>288929620This looks better than most anime lol
>>288929735>cameracrappa wants to contact you sir
>>288929620>this is AISeriously impressive if it is.>>288929735>>288929744kek nevermind this is still dogshit
>>288929620
>>288929620>AI animationthat is clearly not AI animationthe AI is just filling in the gaps on the man-made animation at the top
>>288929778Get your eyes checked
>>288929620Fuck off slopnigger
>>288929820reread what he wrote
This slop looks like garbage
Notice how, other than Jewish CEOs ofc, it's only 3rd worlders like Chinks and Indians that shill AI
>>288929735Looks like that AI Tom Cruise Val Kilmer fight video
>>288929744What's with the random face close-ups?
>>288929778Yeah, this is just human made CGI animation with an anime filter on top. AI is far away from being able to make anything itself.
Unironically why do people from poor countries love ai so much?
>>288930124The Japanese would never… https://group.softbank/media/Project/sbg/sbg/pdf/ir/investors/shareholders/2026/shareholders-meeting_46_05_en.pdf
>the OP's example is actually decent because it uses a human-designed human-animated 3d scene as groundwork for the AI>the rest of this spam looks like shit because it's completely ungrounded, fed only a text prompt to "make a fight scene"this just proves that AI is a tool like any other, and when used properly it's practically unnoticeable but when abused by the unskilled it looks jarring and terrible
>>288930273The japs are not here shilling it though.
>>288930266Slop or otherwise, that is legitimately fucking atrocious.
>>288929620I mean this is just a great proper use of it and not the kind of shit you'll see some random posting.
>>288929620Even when it's just adding textures on a 3d object is looks pretty mediocre and uncanny. Aisloppers still have to improve.>>288929664Based.
>>288930263no taste.
>>288929620the issue was never that AI couldn't eventually become good, otherwise it could just be considered another new tool. it's that it could poison the industry by strangling the pipeline of junior stafflike those retards who think chatgpt can replace wikipedia and journalism when all it does is regurgitates articles posted by them
I was ok with cgi in movies, like Macross plus the movie. but it had a purpose there.
>>288930263They aren't concerned with virtue signaling like your 16 year old american activist friends on twitter.
>>288930435sounds like a skill issue and juniors need to git gud
>>288930263because they think it gives them access to expertise without having to spend the time and money on education or experience. rich investors love it too for the same reason.
>>288929620Based. More high quality anime for me to consume>>288929664Oh nooo how will the studio survive you not watching their slop on your torrents
>>288929840I'm sorry, but I can't not see the cat.
AI is only good for porn
It's okay to use AI for you own personal amusement. Just don't share it with others
>>288930124Why did you mention Indians? Only the USA and China have developed artificial intelligence models. Other countries are just licensing open-source versions of the USA and China's AI models. AI models require the construction of numerous data centers and consume enormous amounts of electricity. Only the USA and China have the world's largest power generation capacity to meet this demand. India and Japan do not have the national strength to independently develop AI models.
>>288930872>Why did you mention Indians?Nta but the statistics show that they are the nation that uses ai the most/the 2nd most. Also they post a lot of those ai trailers on youtube.
>>288930263Yes, the USA is a poor country. Globally, only the USA and China possess artificial intelligence models. Other countries aren't unwilling to promote them; their overall national strength is too weak to develop their own AI models. Developing AI models requires a vast number of mathematical and computer science talents, and demands enormous national budgets to build numerous data centers and power plants.Besides the world's most powerful superpower, any other country attempting to develop AI models would likely face bankruptcy.
>>288929678shit>>288929735shit>>288929744shit>>288929840shit>>288930025shit>>288930058shit>>288930073shitall of those look shit compared to >>288929620How does it feel knowing your shitty AI cannot compare to "good" AI?It turns out no matter what you use, you will always make shit
i dont watch new anime and dont give a shit
It doesn't matter how good it gets, the same people who spend all day watching AI brainrot shit now are the only people who are going to be watching it in the future. Saying you watched an AI anime is like saying you talked to a real person because you texted a chatbot; you have to be extremely retarded to be impressed by such a useless technology.
>>288929620same guy, right?literally the only decent video in the whole thread.It turns out AIfags cannot compare with other AIfags as soon as they use even the minimum of non-AI tools for references to have their models to work with something
>>288931055>newWhat does "new" mean?
How long until data centers are finally understood as.a money sink and AI gets expensive as fuck?
>>288929620AI is great but the obsession with keeping things a shitty framerate angers me
>>288929620My head hurts looking at this and Idk why.
>Big tech spending on data centers balloons to $850B, with Meta and Microsoft investing tens of billions>>288931100they are gonna die on that hill
>>288929620The future is a bunch of deadbeat uncs loitering while AI does pretty much everything
>>288930263I don't know, anon, why does the USA love it so much?
>>288931251The only people in America who love AI are contrarian chuds and out techno-fuedalist ruling caste.
>>288930275You can't expect indians to have any expertise beyond scamming gullible idiots on the internet.
>>288931302Because the primary purpose of artificial intelligence is to enhance military strength and scientific and technological research capabilities, providing entertainment for ordinary people is only a secondary use of artificial intelligence. Robots, artificial intelligence, data centers, supercomputers, chips, lithography machines, and Generation IV reactors—these are the dividing lines between strong and weak nations in modern times. Currently, apart from the USA and China, all other countries have been classified as weak nations.
>>288930796You can share it with others, that's what the threads on /b/, /e/, /wsg/, and so on are for. Just don't post them unprompted (no pun intended) or without saying it's AI.
AI is the future.Fighting against technology has never worked even once before.
>>288931539>AI is the future.Maybe but not in this way, ai animation will be meaningless when full vr diving gets implemented. No one will care about any type of entertainment or art after that becomes a reality.
>>288930263They have no skill,no patience and no money so they relay entirely on AI to do the heavy lifting,this is why this shithole loves AI slop
>>288931467>usa and china number 1 because our overlords are investing gorillions in this mass-surveillance, human obsolescence technologyHope the Kool-Aid at least tastes good
>>288931032>yourthey're reposting random chink videosno one here even understands what AI is
>>288931100when the people investing in them get tired of making money and decide to sell their shares to unsuspecting retards
>>288932144>they
>>288929664Every single company already uses AI for daily tasks. So there are no companies who are 100% AI-free, so how much AI do you tolerate?Do you draw the line on AI visible at the finished product? What about AI used for backgrounds only? Or for the creative process only, like the concept artist using AI to test palettes, etc? Because companies doesn't have control over that, so the only safe way to make sure you don't watch anything touched by AI is to simply not watch anything past 2020.Unless you are a purist, and really doesn't like any kind of AI, not only generative AI. By that point, you will have to rely on hand-drawn stuff only from like before the 80s.
>>288931251what are you talking about? ai love is mostly by grifters who have a personal get rich quick grift attached to it.there's a disparity between first and 3rd world countries with ai due to the nature of their economies. 1st world nations see it as a force for economically displacing them, 3rd worlders who are already economically displaced see it as an opportunity to get rich quick by posting 100 slop porn images to patreon a day or using it to scam someone or program shovelware.
>>288929664tpbp
>>288930435>the issue was never that AI couldn't eventually become goodexcept people use retarded arguments like "slop" and "no soul", even for really good looking AI, instead of talking about the things you just mentioned.
>>288932356>Because companies doesn't have control over that,English is not that hard, amigo. >is to simply not watch anything past 2020.In 2020 Ai could not generate proper backgrounds and anyways there is always indie animation.
>>288932056Haven't you noticed that modern society functions properly only because of the science and technology developed by the USA and China? Other countries are merely consumers of the technologies developed by the USA and China. Apart from the two main players, the USA and China, other countries are just uncreative supporting characters.You can use your imagination: why would Donald John Trump propose the idea of forming a "G2" group to China in 2026? Because the USA has realized that all other countries, including European countries, are a bunch of trash, playing a negligible role in the functioning of the world.
>>288929840this reminds me to the endings in MK armageddon with the character doing moves at the end, lel
>>288930263it's mostly free
>>288932476>modern society functions properly
>>288930263because they never had enough money to do these kinds of productions manually
>>288930124another prood that they have no souls
>>288929620AI is great! This looks awesome and much better than lots of shit drawn by hand.
>>288932470In 2020 Adobe Photoshop already had plenty of AI tools.
>>288932695Which ones?
Let's go! I love watching what people can do nowadays. It's so exciting. Future is now>>288929678Cool as fuck>>288929735Awesome>>288929744Better than the last anime i've watched>>288929840SOUL>>288930058Peak-Ai is the future. Adapt or die, gramps. It's here to stay and only getting better. Now everyone can express themselves without wating months in a gruesome process in some lame-ass kickstarter(that most of the time end up with results inferior to whatever you can create in 4 days with AI).
>>288929620Man this looks meh, props for the puppet modeling but the ai has obvious mistakes. >>288929735Why are the chinese so obsessed with precure?
>>288932728Look up Adobe Sensei and tools like select subject. And technically, content-aware fill was AI too and almost a decade before that.
>>288932470>indie animation with smaller staff and lower budget are more likely to keep using humans to draw thousands of minor variations of existing images
>>288932824Oh, that's what you mean. I see, those are still not enough to generate backgrounds, hell not even current ai can be used consistently for that.
>>288932883This is why I asked how much AI do you tolerate. Because those were definitely AI in every sense of the word, they were just not neural networks.Content-aware fill did generate stuff, but also didn't use neural networks.Neural networks were mostly only used to identify subjects in a picture at the time.
>>288932877Yeah? Most of them don't do it for money but because they like drawing and they usually make short stuff. There are a lot of animation festivals where such indie projects are shown and university graduates also have final projects that they make without any ai. There is also the stop motion scene that /a/ never discusses outside of thunderbolt.
>>288929678>jumps down from balcony>camera turns around>stairs instead of a balcony
>>288932930>This is why I asked how much AI do you tolerate.Me, personally? I don't like animation that is generated by llms. An old tool doubling half of an image that you've made is a mathematical process that is easy to understand. Still a bit lazy but acceptable I guess. Image generated stuff that just takes and mashes everything it has in its memory in a way that can't 100% be predicted and that uses material outside of your own is not something I fuck with. Even as entertainment a lot these videos just look repulsing, they would look equally shit if they weren't ai.
>>288929620The supposed unlocking potential of AI and yet it's still a story about a faggot MC running away from a willing girl.
>>288931539my town fought against those intersection cameras and made it illegal to ticket someone using them.
>>288933078It's just recycling its training data.
>>288933165It isn't dumb dumb. The guy literally made a 3d model above with the exact same premise and then asked the ai to color it. All the ai fags don't actually have anything interesting to say.
>>288929620Its getting really scary.
>>288929678I won't say it's good yet, but it's already better than DEEN/Stay NightGive it six months.
>>288933207>than DEEN/Stay Night>sabe with hair down>gar for archerAi wishes it could be close to being as soulful as that.
>>288933200Holy fuck.
>>288929678They used some genshin models for this, didn't they?
AI is going too far
>>288929620>>288929678>>288929735>>288929744>>288929840Other than the one in the op, this looks like zoomer garbage and contradicts what people that praise ai want out of it.
>>288930124Americans are the only third worlders thoughever.
>>288932883>not enough to generate backgroundsSky Replacement was an Adobe tool in 2020. It was also great for simple background editing.
>>288933374Wasn't that used to edit the sky in real life images?
>>288932792Why are Precure fans obsessed specifically with that blond cunt?I keep seeing her everywhere.
>>288929620>>288926172>>288925195>>288923719>>288890323Where are the fucking janniesThey keep recruiting more but somehow there's fewer than ever
>>288933446https://4stats.io
>>288933446There are no rules against posting AIStop crying about it
>>288933396It was used in real life products you bought at the supermarket, yes.
>>288933523Kill yourself spammer.
>>288933523>off topic>underage>trolling outside of /b/>extremely low quality>spamming/flooding>automated spambot>advertising
>>288929620>AI animationFrom what I get from the webm, most of the animation was done in 3D and AI was only used to get the final visuals.
>>288929735>>288929744>>288930058>>288930073>>288930169>>288933734What's with the slop videos and videogame tier fighting choreography? Too much Guilty Gear in the training set?
>>288934031It's obvious that someone put precure skins over cutscenes from different video games
>>288933707The nailfag is protected by the mods, so reporting him won't really do anything.
>>288929620I wonder if it's an artifact or the guy really prompted that every girl must have twintails.
>>288929664You can't stop this shit man, may as well just embrace it
>>288934300I don't think I will
>>288930872They use AI the most out of the any other country, and the way they post makes it kind of obvious.
>>288929664You WILL watch that shitYou WILL enjoy that animeYou WILL find out later that the studio employs AI in some sort of wayYou WILL feel dirty and disgusted at the idea of having betrayed your principles due to actually enjoying the showYou WILL get over it with timeYou WILL continue to watch that shitYou WILL become a reluctant hypocrite traitor for the sake of actually good animated animeEmbrace the future anon
>>288934257Do you think AIfags know the meaning of restraintThey never learned that "just because you can make something, doesn't mean you should" because they don't make things and they were never able to until recently
We were already in the age of slop but at least it still took some skill and time to produce and you could still find some gems, now we're gonna be bombed with effortless slop that can be shat out en masse. Enshittification as it is.
>>288934333>good animated animeBut this looks like garbage? And I don't need good animated anime, all the animation in the world doesn't save the average shonenshit from being a waste of time. I need good writing.
>>288934333/a/ still shits on cgi after all these years, summerfagThat fanfiction you just wrote? It's never going to happen
>>288934364AI has done wonders to the idea guys around the world. Turned out their ideas were pretty questionable and unimaginary at best.
>>288932419>except people use retarded arguments like "slop" and "no soul", even for really good looking AIthe defining feature of "slop" isn't whether it's good or bad. slop is when the skill required to create something drops low enough that the market is flooded by low effort creators. like how "isekai slop" has been thrown around on /a/ way before the AI boom.
>>288934628I don't think barrier to effort is the defining feature of what makes slop, slop. I don't think it's entirely about novelty either, since you could reasonably call some things "arthouseslop" (artsy and original for the sake of being original but ultimately lacking in some way).
>>288934494Most of them are prompting for ideas anyway.
>>288934436Fair point, writing IS important, but we all know that a poorly animated or directed anime can sink any chances of further development and recognition. Remember Berserk 2016 or Hoshi no Samidare. So any future help in this regard, even if it comes from AI, should be welcomed>>288934442Nice argument fag, because OF COURSE the japanese anime industry cares about what a bunch of idiots in /a/ thinksMy "fanfiction"? A real possible future you should at least prepare or expect
>>288934442You mean 3DCGI. Because all anime have been CGI for a good while now, and even the people who complain about cgi are usually just talking about 3dcgi.So yeah, /a/ learned to like cgi over the years.
>>288935169>Because all anime have been CGI for a good while now,There still are a few that draw on paper before scanning them. There was an interview with a western freelance from 2020s that said he only had to draw on paper while working on some anime.
Feels more like a fighting game than anime for most of these.
>>288935161>because OF COURSE the japanese anime industry cares about what a bunch of idiots in /a/ thinksWhat is this owoSome shitty attempt to move the goal post?>>288934333Reread your own post, retard.
>>288935161>>288935161>writing IS important,The problem is that writing is literally not important for ai faggots. Look at this thread most of it is filled with brain dead fights traced over shonen anime or video games cutscenes. They don't care about anything but fights which is hilarious considering that ai was supposed to help all the creative people that don't know how to draw.
>>288935220I would love if you could prove me wrong, but there is not a single modern anime out there that is 100% hand drawn. They are all touched up digitally at some point, with most of them just being done 100% digitally.
>>288935297*100% hand drawn on paper
>>288935297I've never claimed that they are unmodified digitally, I've claimed that there are still some that get drawn on paper.
>>288932356>ai shill>esl
>>288935282thats because AI bros are not creative and never will be, drawing is not fucking rocket science, anyone can learn it more or less if there is the urge to be creative and if someone doesnt like it in particular there are dozens other art forms. Only smooth brain monkeys with no internal monologue shill for AI because its as dead and souless as them.
>>288929678nice
>>288935770There are very creative ways to use AI and your lack of imagination in terms of being able to imagine them tells me that you are not creative and never will be.
>>288935898>There are very creative ways to use AISomeone should tell ai fags that because their animations are anything but creative.
>>288935912Yes, most people just prompt then save/post what it shits out. Most people do not put in the human effort required to use AI creatively.There are plenty of ways to use AI creatively by utilizing actual human effort, though.
>>288932358I love Austrilia, Frnace, Angentina and Great Bintain!
>>288935949>Yes, most people just prompt then save/post what it shits outThis is literally what everything in these threads is . I am sure that there are fags that put effort into this shit but they can not be found here so of course people end up hating these threads.
>>288935898nobody who is actually creative needs a fucking language model to express themselves
>>288936037Was more referring to image/video/music gen.But LLMs can certainly be used to provide ideas which are then creatively modified/expounded upon by human creativity.>>288935991>This is literally what everything in these threads isThe OP literally isn't that. The OP is literally a human putting in creative effort in 3D software then running the 3D through AI.
>>288935340So my original claim stands. /a/ learned to tolerate cgi.
>>288936083>The OP literally isn't that.The op is literally the one exception out of 500 of these webms that have been posted on /a/ in the last 2 years or so.
>>288935991>so of course people end up hating these threadsRegarding AI video gen specifically, a big part of it is the technology just isn't quite there yet to mimic drawn animation in a convincing way.There needs to be video models that are solely trained on anime if you want to gen anime with them. Right now the models don't convincingly mimic anime drawn on the 3's. The results almost always end up looking too smooth in an uncanny valley sort of way.
>>288936129But that is ignoring the spirit of the question, even in the late 90s quite a large number of anime were digitally touched but that's not the same as computer graphics that generate entire 3d models which is what most people have in mind when discussing cgi. Hell the equivalent for 2d animation would be puppet rigs which are also widely hated.
So it's just one fucking pajeet who's spamming in all these threads? Got it.
>>288936240>which is what most people have in mind when discussing cgiYour newfagness is showing. 3DCGI =/= CGI. /a/ used to shit on CGI back in the day, not just 3DCGI.Old /a/ learned to tolerate it, and newfags doesn't even know the difference.
>>288936443>/a/ used to shit on CGI back in the day,Back in the day when? Of course there are people that have always disliked digital animation but /a/ 's culture was literally built around anime like code geass, haruhi, gurren lagann etc and there were enough people that liked those shows. CGI is even older than digital animation and yet it has always been hated. You are the one that is dishonest when it was clear what that anon meant.
>>288930263Do they really?If anything it's China flooding the net with their gugugaga, not pajeets.
>>288934333People we're losing their minds when Bookworm had some AI-generated background in its latest OP, as if something like that matters. As long as you still have good writing, direction and voice acting, using some form of AI generation for art and animation is fine (assuming it looks good, which of course right now it mostly doesn't).You can claim slippery slope but its honestly moot, this tech is going to guaranteed take over animation sooner or later. All you can and should do is judge if its good enough and if it isn't most of us still have a backlog of old media to probably last a lifetime.
>>288930939No artificial intelligence model in the world was developed by Indians; they are merely users, not developers. They are unlikely to possess their own original AI models in the future. India lacks data centers, and its total national power generation capacity is insufficient to sustain large-scale industrial production, let alone high-tech industries. Most of the transformers for Indian power plants are imported from China, making it highly vulnerable to Chinese economic and technological sanctions.The continuous advancement of robotics and AI technologies has rendered India's cheap labor force meaningless. Even with its cheap labor, India's products cannot compete with China's fully automated industrial production lines equipped with AI technology. China has completely blocked India's attempts to replicate its rise as a developing nation. Vietnam faces a similar situation.
>>288936684>this tech is going to guaranteed take over animation sooner or later.In a decade everyone will be living his or her fantasies in full dive vr, no one will care about animation lol
>>288936532You are retarded.I specified the difference between 3DCGI and CGI. If you or someone else decide to argue about CGI from that reply onwards, that's on you, not on me.
>>288936933And I am saying that the anon definitely had 3DCGI in mind, it was obvious. Funny how you had no response to /a/'s culture being built around digital animation.
>>288936443>newfags doesn't even knowEslbro...
>>288929620I dunno, that doesn't look too good to me. Maybe a better one?
>>288929744Like this maybe could be used to ease up creating impact frames. How much did this cost?
>>288937025>3DCGI is not CGI. You mean 3DCGI.>No, I mean CGI. Here is an example of non-CGI anime.>That's still CGINo, you are the retarded one. And if you weren't a newfag, you would know how it's impossible for /a/ culture to be built around TTGL or Haruhi.
>>288929620What is this, exactly?
>>288937256>>No, I mean CGI. Here is an example of non-CGI anime.I literally never said that you faggot. Not everyone you argue with is the same person.>how it's impossible for /a/ culture to be built around TTGL or Haruhi.Then around what anime was /a/'s culture built? Literally most if not all of it was digital. Interesting how you left geass out, basically agreeing with me.
>>288937314a confession
>>288937321You are retarded. 2007 is newfag territory, and it shows. But you are not even 2007, you are 2017 at best, you can't even follow a basic reply chain, nor understand that I never said that you said that.And we already know how this ends, I will announce now that I won't reply anymore unless you have anything meaningful to say, and you will reply with your most blatant attempt to bait me.
>>288929664They're already using it. All of them.
>Luddites
>>288937389Man you are so fucking illiterate and braindead, it's hilarious. >2007 is newfag territory, Haruhi is from 2006 and most of the anime made before 2007, that was board culture was still fucking digital you low iq troglodyte. > you are 2017 at best,Nice projection.>or understand that I never said that you said that.You are the one that doesn't understand that almost everyone talking about cgi is talking about 3dcgi and they refer to cgi as digital animation. Man it must be hard being you
>>288937447>All of them.how did Pui Pui Molcar use Ai exactly?
>>288937549I do not believe that schizo, but pui pui molcar would probably be the easiest one to make with AI given this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qdDEngPbpw
>>288937606That thing doesn't actually move like stop motion. Was the prompter too lazy to ask for a more I guess stilted movement?
>>288937650he probably took the actual frames from the anime
>>288936731>living his or her fantasies in full dive vrYeah yeah, remind me how well did THAT work
>>288937606>but pui pui molcar would probably be the easiest one to makeIt would be the hardest because props stay the same, while anime can go off model all the time. Your video can't stop motion because frieren looks different every other scene.
>>288936731Ho many NFTs did you buy?
>>2889377310>>288937713Search on the internet what full dive vr is, it's nothing like this shit.
>>288937760most people have not experienced VR in any kind of form, so it's funny you think that is gonna replace animation any time
>>288929620Is this scene a proof of concept or from some show?
>>288937821just some guy playing around with the tech. see also >>288931069
>>288937812Full dive vr is nothing like normal vr, you are delusional. There are already communities built around it even though it hasn't been made. Most young people want that kind of life away from our world.
>>288937527>t of the anime made before 2007, that was board culture was still fucking digital you low iq troglodyte.Kinda true, it was shows like Nanoha, the original Fma, School rumble, CG, shuffle, even the original Deen stay nigh, which all use digital coloring, Idk what that guy is talking about
rotoscoping is shit and will remain shit, AI or no AI
aku no hana is the best anime ever
>>288937447By saying this you will only get responses like>well then I am only watching old stuff You are not convincing anyone to support your ai shittery.
AI is only good for making mediocre porn of my highly specific fetishes
>>288929664Soon the actual costs of this power hungry tech will have be put upon its users and it will be less prevalent.
>Sloppers iit desperately try to convince everyone that slop is the future.
>2003 4chinchinwhere is the website that the ai child will make for his own generation instead of infesting another site?
>>288929664Because you are paying so much for anime right now
>>288930263Lack of soul.
>>288933523BASEDASED
>>288938837Stop talking to yourself
>>288929620So they are using CGI as storyboards?
>>288939067Yeah, you should
>>288937846>this nigga really believes that SAO and Player One will be a real thingNothing will stop you from living in a suspended trailer tho
>>288937480How can people who use the fucking internet be considered luddites? Stop acting like a parrot and learn something worthwhile, dumbass>>288939225You can tell this thread is full of dumb teenegers and pajeets
>>288939225>his nigga really believes that SAO and Player One will be a real thingInform yourself, there is enough information about it on the net
>>288939614>there is enough information about it on the net>and it's just a bunch of nonsense
>>288939534>How can people who use the fucking internet be considered luddites?>The Luddites were members of a 19th-century movement of English textile workers who protested the use of certain types of automated machinery due to concerns relating to worker pay, child labour, working conditions and output quality.>CERTAIN TYPESPlease note that the Luddites did not protest the use of all technology, dumbass.
Okay but what's the tool to make your mockups into videos
You want to use AI to make boring tasks like keying or green screen removal or audio isolation? Fine.But I don't subscribe to this fallacious bundle of ideas that goes like this:>we need to replace animators because companies think that what the audience want is more entertainment all the time instead of quality and to keep the budgets similar we need to make more shit at a "similar" quality and faster.No.Producing art isn't about hitting some kind of quota.
>>288940592They really want humanity to become dumb and uncreative
>>288930124Ever been on the Japanese railway system lately? It's just thousands of ads for business, writing, and spreadsheet AI
>>288929664All of them are already doing it, and if you want to get all picky, anime been mostly computer generated for a while.>b-but you need human inputs to generate it!I have bad news for you about AI...
>>288937846
>>288936368Unsurprisingly, the random non-sequitur spergout about CG in anime always gives it away.
>>288932358Was this made with AI?
>>288929664this desuI just have no interest
>>288942915why I dropped bookworm
If AI can kill the garbage studios like Queen bee I'll welcome it with open arms.
>>288943452It can kill all anime if that's what you want
>>288929664>>288932389>>288942915Meanwhile "modern" anime.
>>288932476*Taiwan and Taiwan
AI is only popular because there are so many free generators.The problem is that companies are starting to realize that pumping billions into an industry that doesn't actually make any money in return is a losing venture...
>>288929620This is better than simple prompting. They still need to do composition, camera angle, blockout animation, etc.
>>288941982There is a difference between drawing on a tablet and generating shit based on prompts
>>288944586Your ai slop is just tracing over fights from modern battle shonen so it's the same thing lol.
Don't necrobump shit threads, retard
>>288942173Yeah, his meltdown was weird. Every normal person understands that when people talk abut cgi they are talking about 3dcgi not digital animation. No wonder he keeps shilling ai slop if the thinks they are the same thing.
>>288929664You say the same shit about 3d 10 years ago
>>288934319Then think about Gardening and collecting stamps as your hobby then. AI is the future and Media will dominated by AI. Adapt or Die
>>288947482All your favorite things already been replaced with AI. Now go creative with AI
>>288929620I LOVED IT! It means I can finally animate my favourite anime School Rumble.
>>288947676*20 years ago newfag-kun and people still hate 3d even now
>>288929620Im going to post this everyday until you anti AI people like it.
>>28894774999% of anime nowdays use 3DCG. You just dont notice it nowdays.>But i dont like itWhy youre here then ?
>>288947754Holy slop.>>288947734My favorite things are indie eroge and 4chan thoughever.
>>288947771Because I like older anime and older manga? What kind of low iq question is that?
>>288947775>indie erogeThose were the things who got replaced by AI first.Im an artist myself, its just demotivating when AI can do stuff i did in under 30 seconds. Nowadays i just do Inpaint and fix the AI mistakes. Someday public will accept AI as new normal like i do.
>>288947694the future is full dive vr
>>288947782No one posting old Anime/Manga in the catalog. You just being Tsundere. no one mantains A E S T H E T I C thread anymore
>>288947795>Those were the things who got replaced by AI first.Where is the ai use in hentai prison?
>>288929664>ifThat's the thing. Soon you won't be able to tell unless you're told.
>>288947807>No one posting old Anime/Manga in the catalog.Ranma? Eva? The tenchy muyo, haibane , lotgh threads there are from time to time? A lot of storytimed manga were made before 2015. I am not interested in "A E S T H E T I C" threads.
>>288947816HP finished before AI revolution
>>288947854Check it your yourself now. No one currently posting that. For Ranma is the Ranma remake, not the 90s Ranma. Pic related this is (You)
>>288947856So I just have to read those made before 2021? Then I have a huge backlog to enjoy, based.
>>288929620AI is the future. AI is superior to humans win all regards.
>>288947876Yeah sure gramps lets put you in bed now its 2am already
>>288947871>For Ranma is the Ranma remake,Lmao, most threads are about the original since the remake is shit.Here story times for older manga>Daily DOCTOR JIN>Buso Renkin>MAO (where most rumiko takashi fans gather)>code geass thread>lotgh thread>old doujinshi thread>haruhi thread a few days ago>psyren>madoka>Slayers>Lucky starWhy are you lying, faggot?
>>288938555Not on every aspect but i believe its the future. Especially Anime
>>288947931People already shit on books written by ai and on video games with ai generated art though
>>288947944Of course Low effort slop is always a slop. Good AI is when you dont notice its AI
>>288947886>gramps>for not liking 2020s mediaKek, even zoomers hate modern media and prefer older stuff and that's saying something because zoomers are the most braindead generation
>>288947927>Daily DOCTOR JIN>Buso Renkin>MAO (where most rumiko takashi fans gather)>code geass thread>SlayersThere are none. MAO is the REMAKE>lotgh thread>old doujinshi threadThere are none>haruhi thread a few days agoOne time only>psyrenStorytime only. Its almost end now. Before you ask, yes I read the whole manga Its axed endin>madokaMadoka still ongoing and new>Lucky starShitpost threadDunno why you so desperate about this though
>>288931182No wonder europeans are bitching so much about paying for an AC.
>>288947969Mindbroken
>>288929620Genuinely no different from modern animeThe moment they started using computers it started going downhillLate 90s/early 2000s at least they were conservative and were trying to look like traditional cel animation, but once 2006 hit it all went to shit
>>288929820Literal CG modelsLazy cheap fucks
>>288947953>There are none>>288920285>>288914754>>288872005>>288932450>>288940434(also lotgh had another 300+ replies a wekk or two ago)>is the remakeRetard, it's for the manga>>288916986>Madoka still ongoing and newMadoka is from 2011(which is waht people discuss not the gatcha slop) and they've been waiting for a movie that might never get finished)>sotrytime onlyThis is not a storytime thread >>288920631
>>288930275>the OP's example is actually decentStopped reading here
>>288929620Anime from 2028 onwards gonna be like this- Key 2D Artists for the artstyle- 3D Animator for the animation- AI Artist for combining the artstyle and animation into one (like training the arstyle into Loras, etc)You people wont even notice it. You dont need traditional Animator anymore.Anime is saved
>>288947998Eh, 2009 had redline which looked fantastic and 2007 had Sword of the Stranger
>>288948023Storytime and Shitpost thread. None of them are serious thread anymore. Time to move on, gramps
>>288947995I am serious why id your generation so dumb? It's the first generation to have a lower iq than the previous one and I don't get it. Is it because of microplastics?
>>288930275OP was made by Japan and therefore is anime. The other webms are /co/slop.
>>288948043>Storytime and Shitpost thread.The lotgh thread from a week also was full of discussion and some storytimes are good, especially for Rumiko's works. The code geass thread is filled with discussion as well and even the shitpost threads have discussions. Hell >implying that shitposting is bad/a/ used to be way more fun when the threads were filled with offtopic shitposting.
>>288948052Im almost 40 dude.
>>288948079Keep clinging on to the past as you wither to nothingness
If you people watch Houseki No Kuni you can watch AI anime
>>288947795where did they use ai in the new Monmusu Quest?
>>288948104>his argument gets proven wrong>tries to change the subjectClassic, anyways no shit people prefer the past considering modern media is so bad.
>>288947998For me anime ended after 2014. The 2000-2014 still had a lot of gems, ping pong and space dandy aired in 2024 after all, but after that idc anymore
>>288948133No man. im right. Theres barely thread that you desperately clinging on right now and its a shitpost thread. Enjoy your endless shitposting about Lum and Ranma. Keep repeating the same pattern over and over again.
>>288948157>2024*2014
>>288948087Curious but what race?
>>288948167Not Indian. But if i am one would you be happy about it ?
>>288948162Man you can't even write in english . I've given you multiple examples of non-shitposting threads. How was the lotgh thread from 2 weeks ago a shitposting thread? Even the Rumiko threads have a lot of discussion besides the usual "best girl" shit. >Keep repeating the same pattern over and over again.As opposed to what? Threads for new anime are pure garbage worse than anything you can find in threads for pre 2010 anime.
>>288948181I don’t care if you are indian, tell me your actual race.
>>288948162SAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR
>>288948193Now you use the ESL card lol. Pathetic grampsHavent you got bored watching those classicslop over and over again ?
>>288948181>But if i am one*If I were one you dumb fucking ESL
Holy shit, the aijeet spammer got nuked hard. Let this shithole thread fucking die already.
>>288948216>Havent you got bored watching those classicslop over and over again ?There are enough of old anime/manga and media in general to last you a life time. Why would I, or most people at my age, bother with new shit when it can't reach the peaks of old media?
All ai shills are esls, I see a pattern here
>>288948218And yet you still wrong. LMAO pathetic gramps desperately still using his ESL card to win a pointless argument
>>288947737>school rumble but with garbage colors and modern texturesyuck
>>288948230>There are enough of old anime/manga and media in general to last you a life timeNo they are not. you can literally watch all of anime available in existence in 6 months Nonstop. For good ones only its 1 month.
>>288948087And you're still a dumb loser?
>>288948237Are you pretending to be retarded? You can't be serious lol.
>>288948257And you're still seething about AI ? Gonna cry to janny if i post good AI webms ?
What a fucking dogshit thread
>>288948252>No they are not.Are you illiterate? I've said anime/manga/other media. Also a retard would watch anime non-stop. >For good ones only its 1 month.For good modern anime you only need 1 day, what's your point?
>>288948261Gramps time to remind you again that we discuss about AI here. We dont need your nostalgiaslop here
>>288948279Mindbroken. You answered your own question/argument.
>>288947754The height of the bookshelves aren't the same and there are spines on the side. Her legs are different lengths; the perspective is wrong. Despite all the attempts, that dress is neither office appropriate nor structurally correct. Her arms are comically short. Her shoes are too small and the heels are wrong. Teto's feet and ankles are a disaster.If this is the AI art that gets shown off, then things are more dire than I thought.
>>288948290>buzzwords>no answersYou literally have no defense for modern anime and their worth and you know too well that there is enough good old media to last people a lifetime(even just otaku media like anime/manga/vns/vidya).
>>288948307Im not even indian. Stop watching their disgusting tiktok/instagram vids. No wonder you rentfreeing to them so much
>>288948321Your Question >>288948230Your Answer >>288948279Lol>>288948320Its not a complete webm
>>288948280>GrampsYou're fucking 40
>>288948349Then post the final product. Surely it's an improvement.
>>288948353God i wish
>>288948356Human race
>>288948349I think you are too illiterate to comprehend what you are talking about. What's the answer? "The 1 good day of good anime"? That's was mostly an exaggeration when in reality you probably need like 2 or 3 hours for maybe an artistic movie. After you are done with that you won't need to ever touch a modern anime again.
>>288948378All of the fights posted in those threads are just tracing over shitty mappa fights. It's hilarious that this is the height of ai creativity
>>288948391My answer still the same. 6 months for all anime / 1 month for good anime
>>288948421And hundreds of years for all old otaku and non-otaku media so why should I care? Also it's not humanly possible to only watch anime 24/7.
>>288948442Its possible
Just delete the thread janny
>>288948034>anime is saved>by making even more slopI don't get it.
>>288948465>waaaaaaaaah waaaaaaaaaah proper Anime discussion is not allowed pls mama jan help meeeeee
>>288948464I doubt you can name a single human that has watched every single anime made before 2010 in 6 months but anyways the first part of my post already contradicts your stupid statement.
>>288948481I watched entire lineup of 2000 - 2010 anime in span of 5 days. Its possible
>>288948476There's no discussion here, you're just being a schizo idiot and getting beaten up by everyone.
>>288948245>waiting for another season of School Rumble that will never come>finally get a new season but the art style change significantly to cater the phillipines and vietnamese outsource sweatshop studiohe would love those AI btw.
>>288948476What anime are you discussing?
>>288948497That's impossible, 5 days have 120 hours. Just watching all naruto and bleach takes you more than 120 hours.
>>288948511There is a discussion. It just AntiAI retard just seething nonsense about it>>288948519See OP Pic duh. Its amazing. Animation kinda lacking but better animators can do it better.
>>288948034Not plausible because the AI in between will look like shit You cant even take screenshot then it’s fucking over for that product
>>288948533Forget to mention Good stuff only
>>288948517>>finally get a new season but the art style change significantly to cater the phillipines and vietnamese outsource sweatshop studioThat's exactly how an ai generated school rumble would look like.
>>288948535What anime is the OP pic from?
>>288948544Sure sure, what were your thoughts on Kaleido Star, Texhnolyze, Princess Tutu and Haibane Renmei?
>>288948553Great, Fuck bad Ending, Meh, Good
>>288948580Wow, so insightful. Anyways my point stands, infinite old media to enjoy so no point in engaging with modern slop.
>>288948546no it's not. it'll have proper animation. the animators that will hard at work are just those cleanup animators.
>>288948603>t'll have proper animationThe garbage washed out modern colors with shitty textures and disgusting lighting that all of these ai generated animations have? Lol
i had fun time to go away. Other AI supporters can post it in here instead. Before you get schizoing about it, im starting to post from this >>288947754
>>288948628You must be retarded to not think they cannot fix those.
>>288948648Then why does ai animation never fix those, retard?
>>288948027this
>>288948658They did
>>288948640Why don’t you ask the ai to correct your spelling and grammar mistakes?
>>288948675They never do. All the ai animation examples I've seen have the same garbage coloring and textures.
>>288929620That's just bad cgi except an AI filled in the blanks.Not that I even need to add bad infront of cgi though.
>>288948685The one who did it is the one you dont notice
>>288948702Post such an example, preferably in school's rumble's old style and coloring.
>>288932358>bottom axis has no label>Eat The Bugz ForumI might keep this as bait
>>288948717No. Find it yourself
>>288929840From this clip, I noticed several recurring issues:The movement lacks clear intent. The character appears to dance or sway, but many poses don't read as deliberate key poses. Instead, the motion feels interpolated, with limbs drifting between positions rather than committing to strong, readable silhouettes.Weak weight and balance. The character shifts from side to side, but her center of gravity doesn't consistently line up over her feet. It gives the impression that she's floating instead of transferring weight from one leg to the other.Hair and clothing behave independently of the body. The long hair and skirt have attractive motion, but they often feel like they're being simulated separately from the character's movement. Rather than following acceleration and deceleration naturally, they continuously ripple, which makes the animation feel artificial.Inconsistent anatomy. Even in the sampled frames, proportions subtly drift. Shoulders, hands, and the width of the torso change slightly over time. These are common temporal consistency issues in AI-generated animation.Uniform timing. Much of the animation moves at roughly the same speed. There's very little contrast between slow and fast actions, which makes the performance feel mechanical. Good animation typically uses varied timing and spacing to create emphasis.This is where AI animation often creates more work than it appears to save.An animator can't simply tweak a few keyframes because there often aren't meaningful keyframes—it's essentially a generated video. If a director wants:the left arm raised higher,the head to turn earlier,the hair to settle instead of flutter,the weight shift delayed by three frames,those aren't straightforward edits. In traditional animation or a rigged 3D workflow, these are routine changes. With generated video, the artist may have to regenerate the entire shot or perform extensive cleanup, rotoscoping, compositing, or manual reanimation.
>>288948725>there totally are examples!>n-no I won't post themLike I thought, ai can make only slop.
>>288934436>muh shonenshit boogeymanGrow the fuck up you obnoxious pretenderAll of modern manga is bad
It’s funny that AIshills arent even aware that people can instantly see the sloppiness in the shit they postMost people, even normie, rejected AIslop not because of virtue signaling, but because it turns them off, as human brain are very good at recognizing patterns,
>>288948742The ai animated slop literally traces shonenshit, you retard.
>>288935220NiggerThe foregrounds are usually all CGSmartphones usually rendered in CGWardrobe CGInteriors(house, school, train etc.) mostly CGetc.You retards don't even notice because you're too busy staring at subtitles or the lousy generic character design This is a big reason why I can't stomach modern animeI can easily tell all the CG shortcuts and it kills my immersion
>>288948770What was CG in Princess Kaguya from 2013?
>>288935889>spatsgarbage
>>288948739You will change your mind in the end anyway
>>288948852I will if you post examples :)Oh wait, you can't... lol
No matter how hard you try to resist, AI is not gonna go way. It only gonna improved from here. We already reached near perfection in Image. Soon video will follow
You are all just coping. AI will always be superior to anything man could draw, literally anything and everything you can do AI can and will do better. Niggers.
>>288948871https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tj_RphBpwiwHe even admit it. You can post your le smiley face you want anon. Some of the media you already enjoy already partially use AI
>>288929840>Yup, this looks like ass.
>>288948883>>288948881Why do these posts sound like you are trying to convince yourselves kek
>>288929664>not gonna steal their product Im sure theyre so scared of losing a parasite
>>288948891I am asking you to post some animation, what does your favorite youtube channel have to do with anything? >Some of the media you already enjoy already partially use AIWhich media?
>>288948901Assume you already have a decent gaming PC. Just install ForgeNeo and download llustrious model (i recommend WAI V17)Gen any character you like. Shortly after you press "Generate", you knew its over for artists.
>>288948891>literally a video about a i making everything shittier>hah this will prove my point that ai is goodI don't get it
>>288948937"Press Generate" isn't proof that artists are finished. AI art is shit if your goal is creating something with genuine artistic intent or professional-quality work. It's well known that these models are just remixing patterns learned from millions of existing artworks—they don't understand composition, storytelling, design, or why an image is visually effective. The moment someone asks for precise revisions, consistent characters, or a cohesive style across an entire project, the cracks start to show. Generating an image in seconds doesn't replace the creativity, technical skill, and problem-solving that real artists bring to the table.
>>288948919Watch the video. Some video games already use AI for example RE series + Pragmata + Expedition + OthersMusic : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VmlebQEPMRs first song is legitfully goodFor Images basically everything. its 100% dead for >>>/ic/
>It’s so over for real artirsts!!!>while the best use case for AI art is making free gooner pics Just accept it, nobody is going to buy AI manga or AI anime
>>288948883Yet you are using a man-made site instead of an ai chat bot lmao
AI is no different from digital animation. I'm sure in the 80s there were guys going "If it doesn't use Cel animation, I'm not watching it. Fuck digital."
>>288948967You can combine the best of both worlds to create the perfect art.Some Doujin artists already use AI assist. Inpaint is extremely powerful tool.>>288948980For now
>>288948971>Pragmata>Capcom's sci-fi action game Pragmata does not actually use generative AI to create its assets or art.I don't listen to ai music. Now post the school rumble animation.
>>288948989>AI is no different than shitOk? I am glad you agree.
You people gonna have heart attack if you visit >>>/g/ldg
OP's video is silly. "Just have 3d models and all of the camera angles and animations done before to reduce the consistency issues! AI is here to stay!" You buffoons. You absolute morons. "Just do all the work we promised AI would do for you!" FUCKING IDIOTS. This is going to turn out just like that Seedance garbage of a "Hollywood fight" that turned out to be a filter on top of purchased 3d model animations. Just shitty attempts to muddy the waters in an effort to force public consent. I sincerely hope Altman builds a datacenter next to each and every one of you AI cocksuckers.
>>288949018>I hate digital artCmon lets be real here. Unless you 80 years old theres zero chance you dont enjoy Digital art>>288949000I dont care about school rumble after PIE
>>288948995"Best of both worlds?" Traditional art is already the best of both worlds—it has creativity, intent, technical skill, and a human behind every decision. AI art doesn't add some magical new ingredient; it shortcuts the process by statistically remixing existing artwork. If an artist uses AI for minor cleanup or reference, that's their choice, but that doesn't suddenly make AI-generated art impressive. Most AI art is derivative, riddled with inconsistencies, and falls apart the moment you ask for originality or precise revisions. If AI art were truly superior, people wouldn't spend so much time inpainting, regenerating, and fixing its mistakes—they'd just hit "Generate" once and be done.
>>288949031>If AI art were truly superior, people wouldn't spend so much time inpainting, regenerating, and fixing its mistakes—they'd just hit "Generate" once and be done.So you agree to what i said then. Well done.
>>288949029>I dont care about school rumble after PIEYet you were claiming that ai can replicate it. Nice try changing the conversation.
AI can work as a tool, but for that to happen they need to grow out of prompting as the primary method of input. It's entirely based on a sci-fi fantasy and is 99% of the reason AI looks the way it does. AI needs to be something that can be aided by artists and is actually usable to anyone other than a troglodyte who writes>yo gpt generate a video of peter griffin fighting gohanand is satisfied with the result. That kind of input will never result in anything of value
>>288949040Not really. I agreed that artists can use AI as a tool, just like they use Photoshop, Blender, or Clip Studio. That doesn't mean AI art suddenly becomes better than art made without it, or that it replaces artists. You're moving the goalposts. Your original claim was "it's over for artists." Now you've shifted to "some artists use AI." Those are completely different arguments, and the second one doesn't prove the first.
>>288949041You mistook me to someone else
>>288949029Most non-zoomers prefer older media, it's a fact
>>288949052Thats what i said you doofus. AI is a great tool for artists. Just simply press generate is just another slop. You need to pay attention on the detail with Photoshop, Illustrator, Clip Studio, etc.If you think AI is simply a generation tool, youre wrong.
>>288949053You continued that chain of replies you fucking idiot. If you can't post SR animations then it seems that I am right and I don't care about what else you have to say.
>>288949065Literally all zoomers consume is older media, you're retarded lmao
>>288949065Nah not really
>>288949070You're still arguing a point I never disputed. AI can be used as a tool. My point is that traditional art created entirely by a skilled artist will always be better than even the best AI-generated art because every brushstroke, composition choice, and design decision is intentional. AI doesn't understand what it's creating—it predicts pixels based on patterns in its training data.Yes, people can spend hours inpainting, masking, and editing AI outputs. But at that point, the quality comes from the artist fixing the AI's mistakes, not from the AI itself. Traditional art doesn't need a statistical image generator to stand on its own.So no, I don't think AI is "just press Generate." I think it's an assistive tool with serious limitations. But I also think the highest-quality human-made artwork, created without AI involvement, will always surpass the highest-quality AI-generated work because it's driven by genuine creativity, intent, and craftsmanship rather than pattern prediction.
>>288949076So even zoomers are betraying new slop? Maybe they are not as bad of a generation.>>288949081Yeah, really.
>>288948042Sure, and even though I'm not a fan of how Redline looks personally, there were some exceptions here and there2007's Bakugan Battle Brawlers also looked pretty goodLucky Star has held up better than stuff like HaruhiBut you can also say that about nowadays with Ghibli films I supposeAnd sure I do acknowledge that the typical modern anime looks even worse on average than one from 2007-09 eraBut 2006 is where the decline started to happenNot sure if to blame Haruhi/Kyoani or who
>>288948162>Enjoy your endless shitposting about Lum and Ranma.As if Ichiruki vs Ichihime and Narusaku vs Naruhina is any different.What else can you discuss? Chainsoyman or Attack on Normalfags ending for umpteenth time?
I think the funniest thing about the technology is despite how good it is you can still that it's distinctly made with AI. The problem with the stuff is that you can never really sell it as tool when everything about it designed to replace the user.
>>288949088If you think we use generate first, youre wrong. We thought of it in our brain first, then draw a rough sketch of it, Then use AI to generate rough finished draft, then inpaint, again and again, then use photoshop, repeat until satisfied.Its similar to Undo and Redo feature . Just more faster and preciseFun fact : All gacha artist already use AI assists. Blue archive, Genshin, etc you name it. All AI assisted.
>>288948995Nah dumbass, it’s retard like you that think technology will magically get better daily or sthIf you work in any art industry you’ll know that a quality product needed precise adjustments to the tiniest details AI only work best as refs, like searching for armors and clothes, not as final products to work on
>>288948157Fair cut-off
>>288949099AI approval is higher among older people.
>>288949129 Are you still in 2022 ? Industry already into AI.
>>288949104I would move the threshold a bit higher, maybe up to 2011-2012 because that era still had a lot of good original anime instead of just adaptations. Gurren lagann had a lot of fantastic looking shots that were drawn manually, even though the aliens were cgi.
>>288948995>For nowYou have been saying this for half a decade now
>>288949124You're contradicting your own argument. You started with "just press Generate and it's over for artists." Now you're describing a workflow that still requires an artist to do the thinking, sketching, directing, inpainting, compositing, and polishing. Here's why your argument doesn't hold up: The idea, composition, perspective, color choices, anatomy, and final decisions all originate from the human. AI isn't inventing them; it's responding to instructions.If you have to repeatedly inpaint, regenerate, and edit in Photoshop until you're satisfied, then the AI clearly isn't producing a finished piece. You're correcting its mistakes. That's assistance, not replacement.Comparing AI to Undo/Redo makes no sense. Undo restores a previous state of your own work. AI generates entirely new content based on learned patterns. Those are fundamentally different tools.Speed doesn't equal quality. Finishing something faster doesn't automatically make it better. A fast workflow can still produce a worse result than a slower one.AI has no artistic intent. It doesn't know why a composition works, why a pose conveys emotion, or why a color palette tells a story. Every meaningful decision still has to come from the artist.The best traditional artwork stands entirely on the artist's skill. It doesn't depend on a statistical model trained on millions of existing images. That's why purely human-made art remains the benchmark for originality, craftsmanship, and intentional design.At the end of the day, you've accidentally made the opposite case. Your workflow doesn't prove AI replaces artists—it proves AI still depends on artists at every important stage. If you remove the artist from your process and let the AI do everything, the quality drops dramatically. If you remove the AI and keep the artist, great art is still possible. That tells you which part of the pipeline is actually indispensable.
>>288949141Yes, as refs, >muh inpaintWhich is some bullshit you made up lmao, show me professional works which are Ai with your inpaint then? I need actual proofs not some delulu ‘actually they must be using AI here! Trust me bro’I’ll be waiting
>>288949152>half a decadeIts not even a decade yet. Keep seething
>>288949137That doesn't change the fact that older people prefer older media.
>>288949169Simplify your text because im not gonna read that. Its like 3 AM here
>>288949190Ask ai to do it.
>>288949179Meaningless post but I guess you had to come up with something rightAnyway half a decade and progress is already slowing down given there are examples here from a year ago posted as though they're state of the art. A far cry from "exponential growth" kek
>>288949199AI supercharges artists, making them faster, more productive, and more creative than ever.You're right that great results often come from human direction — that's exactly why AI is such a powerful tool. It handles the repetitive, time-consuming parts (initial generations, variations, complex rendering, inpainting) so the artist can focus on the fun, high-level stuff: ideas, storytelling, and final vision.One skilled artist + AI can now explore dozens of compositions and styles in the time it used to take to do one traditional piece.It removes technical barriers, letting artists iterate faster and experiment more boldly.Many pros already use it as a smart assistant that never gets tired.The best art today often comes from this human + AI partnership. AI doesn't replace the artist — it multiplies what a single artist can achieve. That's a massive win for creativity, not a threat. Artists who embrace it are simply outpacing those who don't.
>>288929620I refuse to believe it's AI animation without human input. Probably fixed by team of animators to look good.
Guys i know this is unrelated but im posting from the toilet while arguing and my shit is really wet, do i have diariya
>>288949211>Slowing downExplain why theres barely any doujin on https://exhentai.org/ in these past 4 years except "AI Generated"Compared to before AI era theres noticeable reduction of amount of Doujin now. Like 70% reduction
>>288949217workflows. What I disagree with is your conclusion that this somehow makes the resulting artwork better than purely human-made art.I don't believe it does, and I never will.A masterpiece created entirely by a skilled artist, without AI touching a single pixel, is more impressive than the best AI-assisted image because every aspect of it is the direct result of that artist's ability. Every line, every brushstroke, every composition choice, every correction, every happy accident—that's craftsmanship. It's the product of years of practice, not a model predicting the next most likely image.You say AI "removes technical barriers." That's exactly why I value traditional art more. Overcoming those barriers is part of the craft. Anyone can use a calculator; that doesn't make them a mathematician. Likewise, making image generation easier doesn't make the resulting artwork artistically superior.You also say AI lets artists explore more ideas. Quantity has never been a substitute for quality. Producing fifty variations in an hour doesn't automatically produce one masterpiece. Some of the greatest works ever created came from artists refining a single vision through their own skill, not by cycling through generated outputs until something looked good.The more AI contributes to an image, the less I attribute the final result to the artist's own craftsmanship. If two pieces look equally good and one was painted entirely by hand while the other relied heavily on AI generation and inpainting, I'm going to respect the fully human-made work more every single time. Not because I hate technology, but because I value demonstrated skill, originality, and intentional execution.So yes, AI can be a productivity tool. It can save time. It can help with brainstorming. But productivity isn't the same thing as artistic excellence. For me, the highest standard of art will always be work created entirely through human ability, without AI filling in the gaps.
>>288948768LLMs trace everything fed to them though
>>288949171Yep, not a single example Anyone actually works in the industry will know what I said is true
>>288949235I understand why you value fully human-made art, and I agree that traditional craftsmanship deserves deep respect. At the same time, I don't think AI takes away from artistic excellence—it simply offers another way to create. AI doesn't replace creativity, taste, or vision; it amplifies them by helping artists experiment faster and bring ideas to life that might otherwise be impossible or too time-consuming. The quality of an artwork still depends on the person guiding the process. AI is just another tool, like digital painting software or photography, and in the hands of a skilled artist, it can help create meaningful and original art rather than diminish it.
>>288948989As mediocre as it is the best of ai animation can never get close to the best of digital animation.
>>288949258For now
>>288949232People are genning moreBut AI is not getting betterI don't know how else to explain this given that you've just made a faulty inference that my 8 year old nephew could point out. How tall is your forehead btw?
>>288948792Amazing how the only anime you can pick is a Ghibli production from 13 years ago
>>288949228no, you just have food slop
>>288949256You know it's really hard to argue for it being a tool when it's clearly designed, improved and mostly importantly, marketed towards actually replacing artists/programmers/accountants/etc right? The end goal of AI is to *replace* people and take them out of the process.
>>288949256You're assuming experimentation is something artists want to skip. It isn't. Experimentation is one of the most enjoyable and rewarding parts of making art. Trying different compositions, redrawing poses, refining colors, solving visual problems through your own skill—that's the creative process. It's how artists grow.When AI generates dozens of variations for you, you're not really experimenting in the same way—you're curating outputs. Those are two fundamentally different activities. One develops your artistic ability; the other develops your prompt-writing and editing ability.You also say AI helps bring ideas to life that would otherwise be impossible. I'd argue that overcoming those challenges is exactly what makes art meaningful. Learning anatomy, perspective, lighting, composition, and color theory takes years. The satisfaction comes from mastering those skills yourself, not bypassing them with a model that predicts images from existing patterns.Yes, AI can be a tool, but not all tools contribute equally to the creative process. A paintbrush, graphics tablet, or digital painting software extends the artist's hand—they don't generate the artwork for you. AI is fundamentally different because it creates substantial portions of the image itself.Ultimately, I value the process as much as the final result. A fully human-made piece represents the artist's imagination, decisions, mistakes, revisions, and hard-earned skill from start to finish. That journey is part of what gives the artwork its value. For me, no amount of AI assistance makes an artwork more impressive than one created entirely through human creativity and craftsmanship.
I take a look at AI from 3 years ago and now, hell I take a look at AI from 1 year ago and now, and the improvement is insane. You don't have to like it but you're going to have to accept it simple as.
The existence of this thread proves its 2D vs 3D all over again.You people with get over it eventually. And yes, the latter always won
>>288949273But all i snack on is a cup of tea sometimes but not always with a brownie
wow wow wow
>>288949277You know we answer to each other question with ChatGPT. Unless if you schizo and actually answer to my Chatbot answer lol
>>288948989Digital animation didn't exist in the 80s apart from some CGI shorts from Pixar, and Disney's Tron I guess
>>288949271I can pick more but I was just giving you an example to see what you consider modern? Is 2010+ modern?
>>288949281>3D wonIn what way lmao
>>288949276AI isn't a tool for artists in the same way Photoshop is. aI makes outputs, nothing else. You can guide the outputs or teach your own model. But that begs the question, what for? To fix AI output you need artists anyway. It's just to lower headcount, that's it.
>>288949281>the latter always won2D girls are superior thoughever
>>288949302Everything you see except the character has been 3d Rendered and animated
>>288949293>You know we answer to each other question with ChatGPT.I've been using chatgpt since the very post little bro, it's funny that it took you so long to get it.
>>288949306That only matters until AI improves to the point where human intervention is no longer needed. Like I said, the whole point behind the technology is to replace.
wow woe woe
>>288949029>Cmon lets be real here. Unless you 80 years old theres zero chance you dont enjoy Digital artSure I enjoy digital artAll retro games were practically digital art and they are timelessI don't enjoy most digital anime/animation thoughMostly because it's used for millions of shortcutsI don't enjoy seeing CG furniture in every digital animeFuck that shit
>>288949319In the end you have no answer to AI domination and resorting to shitpost.
>>288949321The problem is that it's method of input will inevitably lead to an objectively generic output
>>288949268Yes for now, call me when it can generate 2 hours movies with consistent animation. Then I will be impressed
Where is the anime discussion
AI is good for funny gigachad fly edits and the other stuff the sharty uses it for.
Visit our thread >>>/g/109138222>>>/g/109138222>>>/g/109138222This is /a/nime friendly>>>/g/109106790>>>/g/109106790>>>/g/109106790
>>288949336Chat gpt gave you a pretty good answer and he knows more than you.
>>288929664>I am incapable of noticing when AI was used for something with my own eyes, but if I'm TOLD that it was used, I will change my opinion on that thing in a heartbeat like the NPC I amThis is what AI derangement syndrome looks like
>>288949338Problem is that AI has no intelligence. It doesn't understand structure. It doesn't understand purpose.You see it in AI animations in this thread, always smooth, always same feeling, variable fps in animations is used tactically something AI doesn't do because it knows there are 24 frames.
>>288949316Sure thing another bullshit you love to made up I guess lel
>>288949363Ironic given you so against AI. Heh
>>2889493163d could only 100% win if they started making a lot more fully 3d anime. those are just shortcuts to make it look 2d because they are afraid of being perceived as 3d.
>>288949369>Didnt know the background are mostly 3d rendered>Didnt know all the vehicles are 3d rendered now>Didnt know most crowds are 3d rendered nowFrom scale 1 to 10, how much is your denial ?
>>288949373Have you even read the answers? They are not against ai(which can be used for actual better purposes than some slop)
>>288949382Orange is 3d Anime only studio now. Also that Space alien anime
>>288949333>I don't enjoy most digital anime/animation thoughI suggest watching good early-mid 2000s anime, they have timeless aesthetics and art as well.
>>288949391That's a very little win. The 3d lupin movie, that was probably the most well received 3d anime, didn't encourage any new ones like it. Hell lupin even switched to 2d
>>288949391wow
>>288949418wow
>>288949364This is what AI derangement syndrome looks like (wow)>>288949368AI has no intelligence (wow)
>>288949364>retard doesn't know that you can learn about that stuff before the anime even got released
>>288929820>Oh no, a smear frame. How will AI bros ever recover?I bet you'll say picrel has "soul" some shit because it was made by a human and will seethe uncontrollably when you show it to zoomies/alpha babies and they instantly assume it's AI.
>>288949459>>Oh no, a smear frame.Blind bro, that's not a smear frame, look at the leg.>zoomies/alpha babiesAren't zoomers in their 20s?
I want to make my own anime. I'll never have enough money to do it.I support AI but acknowledge it is't good enough yet.
wow
>>288949477Tbh if it ever gets to the point than any normal human can just generate his or her animated series, no one will care about yours when they have infinite content to consume.
>>288949468wow
There sure are a lot of people who don't know what the difference between AI and CGI is. I guess this bait thread worked. Nice job.
>>288929620This looks like garbage visual vomit 2/10>>288929840This looks even worse 1/10.
>>288949142Never liked TTGL or how it lookedAnd if you compare it to its inspirations(G Gundam, Getter Robo) it looks even worseOnce again you could count 2006 to 2013 as a transition phase or whatever, but 2006 is the cutoff year and not just for anime but also for pretty much everything entertainment relatedOne thing I forgot to mentionThe switch from 4:3 to 16:9 was a huge shift16:9 is just plain inferior when it comes to storyboarding, cinematography, framing etc.
>>288949490wow
>>288949522>Never liked (wow)>>288949522>One thing I forgot to mentionwow>>288949522>framing wowanime
>>288949522I've never been a fan of any of the Getter robo anime, I always preferred the manga. It's ok if you didn't like GL but my point is that the period still had a lot of original anime which is the kind of anime I prefer instead of adaptation. >erything entertainment relatedReally?
>>288949490True. We won't even need 4chan. Instead you have bots that mimic 4chan tailored perfectly to your tastes.
>>288929620I HATE SAARS SO FUCKING MUCH IS UNREAL>>288929664Based
>>288929664Classic case of 3rd post best post.
>>288949576wow
>>288949528based chad getting this thread closer to the bump limit
>>288949373>hehwowanime
wowzers
Ai sloppers lostWow chads won
Im still on the toiler do is i have deariiah
>>288949669wow!>>288929620>AI animation is gettingbetter>and the future scaresme
>>288949686wow
With the way the comments are in these types of threads, 4chan has to be using spambot to generate fake activity.
>>288949453If the end result is so indistinguishable from human work that you have to do some research to tell, then doesn't that mean this alleged "human SOVL" that AI haters love to bring up was just a placebo after all? Let me guess, after this you're gonna change your main objection against AI to "muh theft/copyright violation/muh support real artists" and then to "muh data center water usage" and then eventually "muh capitalism".
im ahitn
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>>288930384Idk it looks pretty good to me. Only the static mouths are a bit off.
>>288949698>If the end result is so indistinguishableExcept it isn't lol. > "human SOVL"If you don't know what soul is then you probably don't have one yourself.
>>288949697>With the way the comments are in these types of threads, 4chan has to be using spambot to generate fake activity.wow
I crapped my pants..
>>288949721Static mouths are the least of its problems, it looks really uncanny.
What's the largest prime number you can count to with both hands?
>>288949738Aight
>>288949748wow
>>288949721Read>>288948730
>>288949748No. Find it yourself.
>>288929664This. If all the anime will be AI slop I will just stop watching anime altogether. The whole reason why I like this medium is that I love good 2D art and effort behind it.
>>288930263>>288930432>>288930483>>288931701>>288932611>>288938826These all feel replies from one single person. Also the US is the country with the first or second biggest ai usage you retard(s).
>>28894974813(I am an ai generated girl)
Owen Wilson sings Zero no Tsukaima OP in the shower
>>288949762Tldr, it still looked better than most stuff released today.
Owen Wilson sings Sword Art Online OP in the shower 10 minute version
>>288949776wow
>>288949776Anon... >is the country with the first or second biggest ai usagei've seena chart that shows india and some balkan countries among the first. Of course usa is number one.
Hackjob Rigged animation is worse than mocap, so an AI using that as an animation is going to be animated shittily. Garbage in garbage out. Think traditional rotoscoping over terrible live action footage.
>>288949785wow
>>288949019Anime
>>288949787>Tldr,Ask grok to summarize it for you. >looked better than most stuff released today.it's literally traced over some modern shonen so it's basically just that lol, hell I would say it looks even worse since it hurts to look at that slop
>>288937760Enjoy becoming part of the tech elites human brain processing farm.
>>288937713I genuinely thought this was Hannah Montana for about 10 seconds
>>288937389Most of /a/ are millenials who started watching anime in the 2000's.
>>288949822You are already part of it you retard, your whole data is avialable, ai is used to make the population even dumber and easier to control
AI cant
>>288929664ok kiddo, let me tell you about how in the early 2000's this was my mindset in regards to 3DCG. Everyone unanimously agreed it looked like shit, was lazy, and an obvious cost saving measure from studios who didn't want to pay animators to do hard shit like cars and horses.Fast forward to today and 3dcg is just fucking commonplace everywhere now. You just can't avoid it anymore. This is where AI slop will be in a few decades. You don't think so now, and you're young so I can understand your nativity, but every studio will look to cut corners where they can and when they can. It'll start with just "harmless" stuff (we've already seen it used in anime opening backgrounds with shit like Witch Hat. Which hilariously lead to a WHOOPS HAHA, SORRY THAT WAS DONE OUT HOUSE (TO SAVE MONEY, OF COURSE) SO NOT OUR FAULT! statement. If you think they're not going to be forced economically by factors simply out of their control to use whatever cost cutting time saving tools they have at their disposal to get that shit out during crunch with shoestring budget then you've got a harsh reality to wake up to the next few years.I say all of this absolutely hating AI slot. I hated 3dcg. I still fucking hate 3dcg. It's gotten "better" in the sense of the technology improving and techniques advancing, but that's literally where AI is at right now. Except it looks even better than current 3dcg slop already in many cases. You'd have to be a pretty stubborn contrarian to say you prefer a 3dcg shitfest "carchase" scene over what AI can generate nowadays. It won't be perfect, but neither is the 3D slop. But at least it'll match the target art style and not stick out like a fucking sore thumb when you see it on screen. Doesn't matter if you freeze a frame and the car has the wrong decals or what the fuck ever for half a second, the average viewer isn't paying attention to that shit. It'll get the product out the door in a presentable fashion. Fuck 3D slop.
>>288949800Anyone can make a paint edit of that screenshot you retard
>>288949829wow
>>288949787>zoomer can't even read well thought out detailed postsThis generation is cooked
>>288949854Tl;dr has been a phrase for longer than you have been alive, self hating zoomie desperately trying to fit in
>>288949769Most anime have shitty 2D art. I'm all in for AI to improve the industry, but I doubt it will happen because japanese people would rather jump in front of a train than evolve.
If ai gives us more stuff like Goku vs Doraemon then I'm up for it
>>288949842>I say all of this absolutely hating AI slot. I hated 3dcg. I still fucking hate 3dcg. It's gotten "better" in the sense of the technology improving and techniques advancing, but that's literally where AI is at right now. Except it looks even better than current 3dcg slop already in many cases. You'd have to be a pretty stubborn contrarian to say you prefer a 3dcg shitfest "carchase" scene over what AI can generate nowadays. It won't be perfect, but neither is the 3D slop. But at least it'll match the target art style and not stick out like a fucking sore thumb when you see it on screen. Doesn't matter if you freeze a frame and the car has the wrong decals or what the fuck ever for half a second, the average viewer isn't paying attention to that shit. It'll get the product out the door in a presentable fashion. Fuck 3D slop.Except for the fact that all ai slop is literally tracing over shonenshit fights that are already rotoscoped 3dcgi so ai is literally that, just cgi. Anyways people can just enjoy old anime, go ahead and consume your shitty isekai and battle shonen with ai lol
>>288949819>n-no it ackshually doesn't look good>n-no it's ackshually not even ai!!! lmao
>>288949849>i-it's editedClassic low iq rebuttal. Take your meds, schizo.
>>288949459>I bet you'll say picrel has "soul" some shit because it was made by a humanCorrect, this is sovl because it was drawn and animated by human hands>and will seethe uncontrollably when you show it to zoomies/alpha babies and they instantly assume it's AII do not care about the opinions of children (or 20-somethings who behave and think like children)
The Kengan and the new HnK anime look like absolute dogshit, I support ai if it means we'll move on from this cg slop.
>>288948730Counterpoint
>>288949891>>n-no it ackshually doesn't look goodDo you think demon slayer or jujutsu kaisen fights look good?
>>288949910They both look equally garbage. >>288949906Ai is literally tracing over cgi
>AI will NEVER do this!
>>288949866>ai shit eater is a gatcha shit eaterYou literally can't make this stuff up.
Anime has been on a decline since the mid-2010s anyway. Most long-term fans checked out after COVID. It has become increasingly clear that the 80s through the mid-00s were a golden age (in many respects, not just media/entertainment) we will never get to experience again in our lifetimes.
>>288949864Yet retarded zoomers use it a lot because they can't fucking read. Read the well crafted post you idiot.
>>288949939Evolve, boomer.
>>288949939Why are you surprised, genuinelyHe is 100% a fan of vtubers too (the EN ones)
>>288949842Your post ignores the fact that people can just stop watching nu-anime.>>288949942This,
>>288949879SOME AI is this. Some are using complex webs of comfyUI workflows to generate animations without 3D as a base. And with this being the case, it's still AI use in the end so the distinction is really cope to make in the first place.If you can AI filter over this piece of shit, it'll hands down look better. It'll STILL look like shit, but it'll look like BETTER shit AND be easier to produce. I can't believe it's 2026 and Moot still doesn't let us fucking upload gifs past 4mb, so have a fucking still. You know the fucking scene. This entire anime would be done in AI if they could. At some point, there will be an entire anime like Berzerk that will look like dogshit and be full AI, but nonethelsess will be released to the world for all to consume.
>Why are you surprised, genuinely
>>288949977This scene is soulful.
>>288949967Your generation has a lower iq than the previous and is the most sexless generation to ever exist. Maybe you are the one that should evolve.
What are we going to do when the mudskin decides to remake the same thread tomorrow
>>288949977SO you yourself acknowledge that ai art is still dogshit. So why would people watch this slop instead of watching and reading older stuff?
>>288950002
>>288950040>those colorsLooks more soulful than anything ai slop could ever achieve
>>288949842>larps as an oldfag>doesn't even realize that most oldfags no longer consume modern media This post is an embarrassment
>>288949975Of course. I mostly watch retro anime myself because there's an abundance of good shows that have aged well and I never got to see. But most people will not go that path. Hell, today I marathoned Hare + Guu. Even as much of a retarded autist as I am, I dip my toes into new shows that seem interesting. There just aren't as many nowadays as there used to be. I'm perhaps just utterly bitter that 3dcg won, and that traditional cel animation is mostly dead outside of studios flexing for an OP/ED scene or something. I know where the industry is heading. I pity people who think it won't end up where it inevitably will.Fool me once, shame on you...
>>288950067>>288950067>But most people will not go that path.Who cares? There are plenty of pre-2010 anime for people to enjoy. The anon you've responded to will also probably enjoy older stuff
>>288950067>and that traditional cel animation is mostly deadYou can find 2d animation in indie anime
>>288950139>>288950067The last anime project with good looking 2d animation I've seen was Chao, it had gorgeous backgrounds and very little 3dcgi.
>>288950040Gen X and millennial couples had sex while this and countless other hand-drawn scenes played in the background, something (You) will never experience as a zoomer.
>>288950175Kek!
>>288948237>this whole reply chainIt'd pretty funny if AIfags have enough self-awareness to feel ashamed of their own retardation. As is, this is just sad.
>>288950064>source: i made it up
>>288949295When I say modern I mean contemporary current day anime last 5 years or so If we are talking about a divide then I would say modern anime started in 2006 with Haruhi
It doesn't scare me. I just won't watch it. It's not complicated.
>>288949316>Everything you see except the character has been 3d Rendered and animatedIt's why modern anime is unwatchableBut even the characters in many anime now are traced from 3D models
>>288950468Ok. Watch the Kaguya movie if you haven't, it's gorgeous.
>>288950488Using a 3D model to draw over is not heretical the way AI is. You still get the fluidity and soul of hand drawn art.
>>288929664Thread should have ended here
>>288949403I said it in another post but I did like late 90s/early 2000s digitalDigimon Adventure, Kamikaze Kaito Jeanne, Yugioh, Futari wa Pretty Cure, DoReMi, early One Piece, Naruto(pre-Shippuden), Bleach(mostly before episode 167), Shaman King, Tokyo Mew Mew, Beyblade, Love Hina etc.Did all these anime have great animation? Not really, but they were still 2D for the most part with little to no CG
>>288950642Watch Haibane Renmei and Princess Tutu as well, they will stay with you for a long time
>>288929620It's over...
>>288929620Ugly slopMeanwhile indie animation:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0QqT1P4VO30
>>288949573>Really?YesLive Action TV got affected tooWestern cartoons started going to shit and this was around the period Cartoon Network were trying to push live action stuff with stuff like Re-Animated which was basically the prototype for Out of Jimmy's HeadSomething about the transition from 4:3 SD to 16:9 HD just killed TVThen you have gaming7th Gen started in 2006(technically 2005 if you count 360 but Wii and PS3 came out in 2006)And that gen was littered with sub-30fps video games and yearly Call of Duty installments, paid online on 360, waggle controls on Wii, PS3 being a messFootball(soccer) also went to shit in 2006
>>288950504>Using a 3D model to draw over is not heretical the way AI is.Unironically kysYou weebs shit on Disney for rotoscoping Snow White or Ralph Bakshi for using rotoscoping on many of his films but you tolerate this garbage
>>288950703Watch Kodomo no Omocha(and read the fan scanlation of the manga not the Tokyopop version)It will also stay with you for a long time
>>288950901Nta but I shit on both, Ralph Bakshi 's movies never got close to the best of adult anime. Perfect blue and lotgh mog the whole western cartoon industry in terms of writing.
>>288950924>Watch Kodomo no OmochaI've already watched it though
>>288950816Atla was probably the last western cartoon I've watched(and it was really overrated).>Football(soccer)Did the team you enjoy stop getting good results?
Let's not pretend that human animation has been any good for the past 20 years
>>288950765>That running animationThat has to be an Ed Edd n Eddy referenceIt's exactly how Ed runsI know EEnE has a niche fanbase in JapanI was ready to say that despite the CG on it this looks amazing for current day, but then I looked it up and saw that it was from 2009
>>288951026>past 20 yearsRedline
>>288951029>but then I looked it up and saw that it was from 2009There are other examples of indie jap animation on the internet, you just have to search for it.
>>288951068>>288951029Here is a weird one that I've found and it's from last yearhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XoSDIRlCGs
>>288950938>Ralph Bakshi 's movies never got close to the best of adult anime.Really?I don't care about Bakshi but the rotoscoping on Fire and Ice looks a billion times better than the lazy PS2-tier 3DCG models being traced in many modern anime, which you don't even need to do it but these hacks can't even properly draw simple anime style anymoreWe were not talking about writing I don't know why you're changing the subjectRandom Batman TAS episodes have better writing than pretentious adult anime like those you mentioned but whatever
>>288950959Cool
>>288951182>I don't care about Bakshi but the rotoscoping on Fire and Ice looks a billion times better than the lazy PS2-tier 3DCG models being traced in many modern anime, which you don't even need to do it but these hacks can't even properly drawI compare Bakshi with animators form his own era and there he gets destroyed. Akira destroys his garbage. >Random Batman TAS episodes have better writing than pretentious adult anime like those you mentioned but whateverWrong. Also PB and Lotgh are not pretentious at all. Characters in lotgh are better developed and written than what you will fin din BTAS. Accept that the best of anime writing absolutely destroys the best of cartoon writing. If you are a /co/ fag why aren't you on your board talking about garbage like tadc anyways?
