Welcome back, everyoneToday, our heroes fight the other Silver SaintsPrevious:>>289518886>>289543551>>289567418>>289592114>>289616544
>>289642763Where do you get those saint cardst? Athena's print shop?
>Nobody cares , Nobody cares >Nobody cares , Nobody cares >Nobody cares , Nobody cares >Nobody cares , Nobody cares >Nobody cares , Nobody cares >Nobody cares , Nobody cares
>>289643095It's worth to note Babel got a massive upgrade in the anime
>>289643665Damn
>>289642763this is the most random plot point in the manga, glad the anime remove it
>>289644235Kurumada was throwing shit to see what stuckDunno if the Final Edition keeps itAnd I want to believe it inspired Saint Mariya
>>289642516Each volume is worse than the last.
>>289644352it gets good at the sanctuary
>>289642763>exit doppelgangersJust like that huh?
>>289644425Is there a single mind reading character who has an answer to this tactic?
>>289642815Wait, what?
>>289644468YesNow forget they ever existed
>>289644352It becomes peak in the Sanctuary arc. Later arcs are also good, even if worse than the peak. The first arcs work well as introductions to the world, main characters, all that shit, even if they are not as spectacular as the future story arc. The anime fucked them even further by introducing tokudatsushit or mecha Saints known as Steel Saints, kek.
>>289644272The Final Edition changed the dialogue to have the Saints somehow propel themselves out of the mountain without Mu's help, and Marin to be the only one who used her illusion powers to disguise the Black Saints as Bronzes.
>>289644491>jobber face right during the attackBased Marin.
>>289642763Those cards were dumb and random, but kinda cool at the same time.>>289644506I feel that aside from improving the art and including Gaiden stories, the Final Edition worsened the plot in most of instances during which an older dialogue was modified.
>>289642716>I can't believe... knights of your caliber would job so easily
>>289642815>literally left a calling card behindlmao
>>289644030He had her unmask just before the tournament. How would he not know already?
>>289644660Lord Nobu, also known originally as Mitsumasa Kido.
>>289644660>>289644712Meanwhile, Ikki was so autistic that he wanted to get revenge on dead Mr. Kido by killing other brothers who got traumatized and mostly killed by Mr. Kido's actions. What a manly guy.
>>289644712Ah, okay, Hyoga already knew when his mother died on their way to see him
>>289642815Hey, I just met youAnd this is crazyBut here's my cardSo fight me, maybe
>>289643095This guy got humbled quick.
>>289644561Even the old tankobon edition had some modifications from the magazine, but feel like Final Edition's felt more like change for change's sake or unnecessary. Tho Kurumada didn't fix Misty's eye trying to run away off his face, when it comes to art fixes.
>>289643730Fuck, I knew it wasn't just same-face syndrome
>>289644829Yeah, tankobon releases have changes, sometimes smaller, sometimes bigger (like that one with Milo being Hyoga's master), but Final Edition seems to really modify shit that didn't need to be modified. Fuck, some of the weirdest elements, like like Aldebaran vs. Sorrento, weren't even slightly altered to look better.
>>289644070All I remember of this guy from the anime is him throwing people into the air, I don't recall Seiya beating him at all.
>>289644050>unless he has wings, it's impossible>unless he has wings>wingsThis man must never ever try gambling.
>>289644425Based. Fuck mind readers
>>289644897I remember the original magazine outright saying Hyoga had Oedipus complex kek. And then June was naked beneath her armor, but then she got modified to be covered up underneath like the anime.Michi Himeno had even mentioned how June's original design posed a problem for animation and they had to color her like she had an undersuit beneath, even if it didn't look right, in order to pass the TV code.
This shit really needed some down time between fights badly. And you can't even blame its age for it.
>>289645294Yeah, I think in the anime they let the Athena reveal cook for a little while.
>>289643095Fun fact: In the WSJ original version, Hyoga says "until fighting Athena herself" but Kurumada removed that line in the tankoubon and every later edition
>>289644747To be fair, Ikki literally suffered an emotional breakdown. He wasn't thinking straight
>>289645940I'm pretty sure that Algol is the only one of these three to be an actual threat
>>289645517Yeah, but on the other hand he could rationally plan out shit and interact with his minions and enemies alike like a sane person.
>>289645976>>289646001Why didn't she do this before getting captured?
>>289646099The schizo has returned.
In the anime, Ikki came back earlier during a filler episodeAlso, Seiya had a fight with Shaina here
Silvers are such jobbers in the manga.>>289646167>Also, Seiya had a fight with Shaina hereUnderselling it a bit, it was basically a Telenovela.
>>289645108He has a point
>>289646202Well, yeah, it was the climax of the whole plotline of Shaina trying to kill Seiya that the anime added
>>289645773>>289645845Miho can't get a break
>>289646252Miho is destined to be cucked. :(
>>289646053The power of love. If you want to take the full canon Hanging out with Seiya may trigger Saori to remember more about her past life. See ND and the Holy War in the myth age
>>289646223Kurumada probably always intended her to be Athena, which is why baffling he made her act like such a bitch.
>>289646269Miho should marry Jabu. You know, pairing the spares
>>289646283Like one anon said earlier, at one point Hyoga originally said that they would even fight Athena if they had to
>>289642863I wonder if the cards were meant to be in his belt
>>289646300Jabu should marry Seika, imo.
>>289646321>He's the one who singlehandedly defeated the black and made them grovel at his feetAre you, uh, sure you want to translate it like that, VIZ?
>>289646311But that is because he thought Athena was at the Sanctuary.
>>289646350Well, his design IS recycled from Kenzaki
>>289646350Seika deserves better. She's Seiya's sister after all. What about Ikki? All his waifus are dead anyway
>>289646299Too much of a jobber to even show his face
>>289646367Jabu looks closer to Ishimatsu from Ring ni Kakero, except he isn't a manlet. Ikki is Kenzaki. It's the same with Musashi from Fuma no Kojiro
>>289642763>When Misty doesn't meet up with the silvers, they'll come back looking for HER
>>289643095Is he the weakest silver saint?
>>289646421All of them seem to be in a pretty similar level of useless.
>>289646448Since the beginning it's established Seiya and friends are abnormally strong bronze saints.
>>289646405Seiya fell in love with Misty so much he thought Misty was a woman.
>>289646514Two of them were directly trained by Gold Saints, two were sent to the worst training places and got the two armors nobody else had worn before and the last one trained directly in Greece were Saints come from
>>289646562Seiya is still the underdog because he was trained by a woman but to be fair, Kurumada has a thing for his protagonists to be trained by women. Probably his daddy isssues
>>289646405I hadn't even noticed. Not even Viz can keep up with these androgynous fucks.
Done for todayCome back tomorrow to see how Ikki does against the remaining Silvers
>>289646615I say it's rather a continuation of trend that started in Ring ni Kakero and has been present in many works made by Kurumada ever since (the theme of the main character being trained by a woman).
>>289646638Athena bless you
>>289646638Thanks for today.
>>289646648I know. It's all part of Kurumada's daddy issues. According to him, he got the idea from reading a novelization of Ryoma Sakamoto's life. Ryoma Sakamoto had an older sister, Otome, that practically raised him and push him to follow his dreams. Kurumada found it cute and used it for Ring ni Kakero and onwards
>>289644973Seyia is kind of related to Peseus, while thus dude is Cetus.
>>289646514Not really. It's Ikki who was the standout. Seiya & Co's consistent battle experience where they break their limits lead to them getting way stronger. Seiya ended up powering up 100x over against Misty, Hyoga doesn't go through that though he just sort of casually oneshots a silver which sucked.
>>289645065>>289645168Up to this point I still thought they'd go back and resume the tournament so I got mad any time they had a detour.
>>289646638>Snake Armor>Looks inside>Armor has big ass ears
>>289645259First time I saw him do it.
>>289645727Weird how Bronze like her cloth is.
>>289642815lol what?
>>289643095That was fast.
>>289646353A fun bit is that this dude constellation is a constellation anymore
>>289646448Which is a shame, some had cool cloths
Choose
>>289643845I don't know if this is more gaslighting. If that's actually the case, then Marin fucking completed the knight trial in the time Seiya traveled to Greece.
>>289642516Kind of funny how he didn't do anything in this volume
>>289644120This mangaka is shit at conveying motions.
>>289647444 She isn't
>>289644395She can do that?
>>289644531I suppose that slightly clears up why the higher up is telling Hyouga to kill the other bronze. They're corrupt.
>>289645091This explains why she is the most armored bronze
>>289644660See, he's fucking dead. The retarded daughter is at fault for this entire bullshit.
>>289644890I forgot this Nobu guy is her grandfather instead of her father.
>>289645003I'm starting to think that Ovid anon was right about Athena.
>>289645147Holy shit, this girl is very unlikeable. Can't she think from their perspective? They had to risk their lives playing gofer for her and this is how she treats them? Seiya is 100% in the right telling her she's a spoiled bitch.
>>289645404>Black WingsI'M NOT BUYING THEM KONAMI, FUCK OFF
>>289647909Anime handled it better.
>>289647909None of them really bought it, if it wasn't for the silvers, they would have gone to somewhere far away from her
>>289647968You will, or Jamian will send you to the shadow realm where you will play against Crow for all eternity.
>>289645679FATFUCK
>>289646053Kek, I know right?
>>289645294Yes, it is one of the reasons for why people cannot expand the universe, there's nothing to expand or work with.So we get 12 houses and Hades rehashes.
>>289646321>he's the one who single-handedly defeated the blacks and made them grovel at his feetGood job TL-guy, now I like Ikki a lot more than before.
>>289646367>silver saint>uses bronze ballEven this silver is aware bronze is better.
>>289646400This looks like the chain is coming from his ass
>>289646638Thanks for the dump.
So the color of your cloth doesn't matter?
>>289648281At least not for the Silver Saints.
>>289648281As long as you aren't black.
>>289648281Some times yes, sometimes no.
>>289648281color won't save them from jobbing, only the main cast + half of the gold matter, the rest are all jobber.
>>289644120My favorite Seiya attack
>>289644660>>289647754I will not be surprised if Kido/Nobu is alive and secretly Zeus's incarnation in the current series.
>>289646167The anime having him leave the team later then randomly reappear in the volcano "to get his strength back" in Sanctuary winds up odd without the frozen arm explanation though.
>>289648281It depends on the person wearing the cloth. Other series demonstrate this better than the original.
>>289636564 #unfortunately I think some anons are just brainrotted by console wars thinking and can't appreciate a manga without hating on other manga.They see saint seiya as a rival to dragon ball and have to put it down.
>>289646638>>289646896Neko Armor
>>289644352it's actually good, stop being a stick in the mud
>>289646283>>289646355>>289646311maybe at the beginning Kurumada was planning to have Athena be the antagonist and they fight her.He was definitely throwing shit at the Wass to see what stuck
>>289646259>"Cross this line and you're dead">>289646277>>289646299>"Alright, bet."
why are chapters so long? wasn't this published in a weekly magazine?
>>289646581>>289646638so can these Silver Cloths be used only by women? what if a guy is born under the Eagle constellation and is strong enough?also I wonder if it feels weird to have the Eagle's sharp talons tucked inside the knee pads when fighting or moving around
>>289650950Cloths adjust themselves to fit the wearers body type. A male or female could wear any cloth if they're strong enough
>>289651045So all these shitters are barely strong enough to get their cloth while Seiya and co are super strong but only went for bronze because those are the free ones.
>>289644734>My slowness to act caused sanctuary to target me as wellWhat an excuse. They barely gave Hyoga 24 hours to do the deed.
>>289645003This is demoralizing.
>>289648069Saintia Sho tried really hard to slip inside the continuity until Kurumada killed it with the new epilogue
>>289651137Getting a cloth depends on where you train and what cloths are available at the time. Seiya and company got Bronze cloths because those were available at the places where they wound up.The Silver Saints either trained at places where Silver cloths were available or were former Bronze saints who got promoted to Silver
>>289645147Where is Athena's legendary wisdom??
>>289646321>Ikki the Phoenixrespect
>>289646638Thanks, OP.
>>289643213For someone who can read minds, he got tricked pretty easily.
>>289643712I know she's wearing a mask, but it's really funny seeing her pokerface at everything that happens.
>>289642763WITH MYSAINT INFO CARDS
>>289645081>You expect us to believe that Athena is a haughty, spoiled girl?...I fully believe this, actually.
>>289651208Based Kurumada
>>289644491>>289644472I wish there were more Marin fightan, she's cool and strong.
>>289650950Shaina's cloth has a canon male bearer
>>289651208kurumada hates girls
>>289644627didn't the cloth use its own will to protect Seiya against Ikki's attack? I don't see how a fake one could accomplish that
>>289649184fathering a hundred kids definitely is the kind of shenanigan Zeus gets up to
>>289642763>Mu: Hello Black Four, I saved your ass from the earthquake because I need your corpses as scapegoats.
>>289652595Kek.
>>289643095Centaurus Babel was my favourite Silver Saint. Such a cool design and fighting style. Too bad he was a jobber. RIP though.
>>289649184It is a long standing theory, Seiya beating his own father would close Kurumada's father issue circle.He is the only one missing.
>>289646581>>289646638now that I think about it, it must've been Saint Seiya the reason I now have a great liking for both armored women and masks/helmets
>>289644175Mind reader when he meets someone who just throws punches
Was Ikki and Shun's mom just that hot or was it Hades Destiny Shenanigans?
>>289644395Hot
>>289656924Nevermind he survived some pages
>>289642516up
>>289642763>saint cardnow that's just silly
>>289643730so he was going to do that
>>289644660but is there any reason why the changed his name in Nobu? I mean, if you are going to westernized it, at least do it properly
>>289645003DUN DUN DUN
>>289646299>>289646311>>289646277Ikki just so fucking cool
>>289646638thanks op
>>289660513Shun...
>>289660513Ikki is the rare likable Gary Stu.
So far, the Rolling Crash and the Hōyoku Tenshō are the only strongest moves to have debuted, right?
>>289644706Ikki had a similar issue already. Everyone just looks the same.
>>289643956At least in the anime he die knowing that Saori was Athena and he was in the wrong
>>289665394>sameface is a common in-universe problemI'd buy it.
>>289645214>After all we went through to get it!Which is why you left it with a woman with no care.
>>289646615It's by the fact Kurumada had a dead sister he never meet so he like put strong female figured along his protagonists because he think It would be cool.
>>289644706I guess you could assume he took off her mask after he left and didn't actually show her face to himSpecially given what it means for a man to see a Female Saint's face
>>289666741Forgot the pic
>>289666741>>289666772That's a massive stretch considering the previous page.
5 volumes in now. Can you, especially the new readers, tell me what you think of the characters and story so far?
>>289667191>the characterslike Marin, hate Saori, don't give a shit about any of the saints because they all have next to no character besides Ikki and their fights make no sense>the storyThe nonsense is fun with the pace things go at. If it were slower, I'd probably hate it.
>>289666369I thought Kurumada saw his baby brother to die when he was a little kid because his family was too poor. Never heard of Kurumada having a sister
>>289642516Yooo Saint Seiya?
I'm still mad af Kurumada didn't give Aiolos an special attack in Episode 0.No, that restraining attack doesn't count.
>>289665501He alsobeat up everyone but Ikki and got beaten by the new toys
>>289667321And why would you say they have no character? Could you elaborate?
>>289646099REENTER
>>289671807Someone else said it already but there is very little distinguishing each of the 4 from one another, and a lot of what comes out of their mouths is stereotypical hot-blooded shounen one-liners.
>>289672433Which thread?
>>289667321If you somewhat like it you should really check out the anime instead, besides some retarded filler in the earlier episodes it's pretty much an improvement in every way.
>>289673269Is it not slower than the manga? I've seen enough 70s-80s anime to get the impression the pace will be glacial.
>>289651208is it true the anime adaptation fucked it up?
>>289674137
>>289642763it is hilarious how kurumada himself inserted many concepts and he himself threw them away
