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Volume 61
Uchiha Brothers United Front
Chapter 585: I Am Me
https://desuarchive.org/a/thread/274143504

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>>289843518
Uhh.. tier list anon? I think you might have to consider making a new tier above even Madara and Tenten
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All these panels wasted on sound 4 coming out of his body and doing nothing (after 3 chapters of flashback).
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>>289843577
Wait, this is retarded.
If Kabuto could just take the DNA of other people and absorb it to use their powers, why didn't he do this with Itachi or Madara? Isn't the whole reason he took part in this war that he wanted Sasuke? What's the point of that if he can just take his DNA and gain access to his abilities?
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Another lame chapter. This series really doesn't hold up for re-read.
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>>289843685
>has the white dragon attack which counters the Susanoo
>has sound based genjutsu that not even the solo king could break out of
Man izanami is such fucking horseshit. Kabuto countered the Uchiha shits in every possible way.
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>>289843955
parts of it felt lame even on first read
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Commandments of the Naruto Universe

1. Solo King cannot be defeated.
2. If it appears like you’ve defeated Solo King, it was just a genjutsu.
3. If it appears like you’ve defeated Solo King, and it wasn’t a genjutsu, then it was just Izanami.
4. If it appears like you’ve defeated Solo King, and it wasn’t genjutsu and it wasn’t Izanami, then He was just letting you win because you’re His brother.
5. Solo King cannot be controlled.
6. If it appears like you control Solo King (like through Edo Tensei), then He actually can undo your control any time He wills it.
7. Solo King is more handsome and better at pleasing women than you are. (He’s also better at pleasing men, if He wills it.)
8. Solo King is morally infallible.
9. If it appears like Solo King did something morally questionable (like patricide, mass infanticide, ethnic cleansing …), then they actually deserved it
10. If it appears like Solo King did something morally questionable, and they didn’t actually deserve it (like torturing Kakashi and young Sasuke), then refer to Commandement 8.
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>>289843955
Idk it was pretty satisfying to see Itachi job to someone else's genjutsu.
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>>289843685
Solobros what the FUCK is this? I thought our king was the genjutsu master, why does he need Sauce's help to break out of the genjutsu of Oro's chunin level henchman???
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>>289843595
>>289843639
>forced to use Amaterasu and susanoo against part 1 techniques

lol
lmao even
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Done!
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>>289843660
i'm 98% certain he also used tayuya in other ways as well ...
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>>289843577
>Demon Twin Jutsu
Funny it took this long for his and Ukon's Kekkei Genkai to get an actual name.
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>>289844048
Except he doesn't since Kabuto is already trapped in his loop
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>>289843660
tay tay... finally...
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>>289843704
How are they talking to him on this page when they're caught in the genjutsu on the previous one and only break out of it 2 pages later?
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>>289843612
So Kabuto achieved Sage Mode... so he should have enough physical strength and agility to give both of these two a real problem, then you have all his little tricks and weird jutsu...but no, hes just going to sit still and cycle through a bunch of old jobbers these two barely know... for no reason? Just sitting in the middle of the cave like a Dark Souls boss showing off his abilities
Very cool Kishi, thank you for leaving Madara for this
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>>289844095
>>289844096
I think the implication is that with all the enhancements Kabuto made to himself and being in Sage Mode, these techniques are stronger than when their original users used them
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>>289843577
Thus begins the hardest fucking fight in Storm 3.
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>>289843685
>Falling for part 1 genjutsu
Lmao
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>>289843739
This shit is so stupid
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>>289843660
H-how does Tayuya-anon feel about this?
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>>289843756
why is he fucking crying here
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>>289843595
>The clone came with the third eye
Also, lmao Kidomaru is whitewashed.
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>>289844101
thanks, OP!
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>trying to make the Sound 5 relevant
This feels so contrived to include them.
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>>289843504
I don't care.
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>>289844133
I don't think I'm quite catching your drift. Can you explain (in detail) what you mean?
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>>289844349
If I had a cent for every time the corpse of a female character with a dedicated anon was used by a major villain during the war arc...
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>>289843739
>SASUKE QUICK
>I HAVE TO MIND RAPE YOU AGAIN
>PLEASE SASUKE PLEEEEEEAASE LET ME TORTURE YOU
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>>289843660
Reminder that this is Sakon's DNA mimicking Tayuya to use her abilities, of you're attracted to this you're gay.
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>>289844355
Kidomaru never looked like he was black, stupid forced "theory" on here.
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>>289843660
the final panel of the manga for tayuyafag
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>>289843739
They, only got out of the genjutsu NOW!?
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>>289844431
That makes more sense than Sakon being shafted for the lulz.
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>>289844452
/s
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>>289844035
The sticky note Kishi keeps on his desk at all times leaked, I see
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>>289843685
>Susanoo can't block sound genjutsu, but later on, Sasuke's Susanoo can block Infinite Tsukuyomi
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>>289843911
He probably needs their chakra too. He has access to all of these guys through Edo Tensei.
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>>289843775
>>289844084
>>289844101
Arigatou, OP!
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>>289843577
Sakon's kekkei genkai is really op when you think about it
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>>289844096
Kidoumaru's jutsu are super broken. He could have been a top class jounin.
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>>289844438
Anon, that was an off hand joke.
Also, there are other ethnicities beyond Black and white.
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>>289843704
Orochimaru looks a lot more expressive and alive compared to Kabuto's other tummy spawns
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>>289844494
I don't get it, they seem fully able to act in the real world, what does the genjutsu even do?
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>>289843756
>>289844354
I don't know how izanami works but I'm guessing the condition is to get the victim to acknowledge their fault? Itachi engaged it only after his words made a dent in Kabuto.
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>>289844519
You're just projecting your own racism.
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>>289844530
Isn't it "fake" chakra? Although Kabuto can somehow modify an Edo's fucking DNA considering Madara (but doesn't bother making Nagato young or fixing his legs), so who knows.
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I like the Sound 4 (actually 5(technically 6)) so I liked this chapter.
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>>289844574
Any ability in Naruto is "really OP" if you really think about it
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>>289844669
no, tentens' really aren't, no matter how much you think about it
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>>289843775
Ol' reliable chakra scalpel (now with added nature chakra)
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>>289844582
The sound 4(5) were pretty stacked. Even without Kimimaro, they might have been Akatsuki tier together.
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>>289844747
Maybe if they lived to part 2, in part 1 they weren't even jonin level individually.
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>>289844664
In retrospect they were cool. Part 2 makes me appreciate SRA more. I don't know if that's a good thing.
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This fight should be terrifying, all things considered. Kabuto is showing off moves were never seen from him before, and if he so much as lays a finger on either Sasuke or Itachi the fight is basically over. Get to Sasuke, you either kill or poison him, either way he is now your tool, and Itachi is also forced to do your bidding. Get the tag on Itachi, thats even scarier, Sasuke will do as you wish and you have SOLO KING under your direct control.
Okay, now think back to the first time you read this chapter. Did anyone ever feel an ounce of fear or dread for the Uchiha boys, did it ever even feel like they were on the backfoot, or were they just playing with their food since they showed up?
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>>289844811
>or were they just playing with their food since they showed up
this, but mostly because itachi revealed he had this fight in the bag from the start
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>>289843704
>>289843719
The wank is outta control
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>>289844811
As soon as Itachi mentioned the Izanami, all tension was lost. Itachi was already calling GG.
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>>289844723
If she used more exploding tags in her kit, she immediately becomes OP. Exploding tags are the only thing that are consistently effective
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>>289844811
For some reason the only thing Kabuto is doing is hitting Itachi with things the edo heals.
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>>289844747
>they might have been Akatsuki tier together.
Lol. Lmao.
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>>289844811
>Did anyone ever feel an ounce of fear or dread for the Uchiha boys
No, because it's a shounen manga for teenage boys and Kabuto is a big bad that needs to lose. What a stupid question.
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Kishimoto literally had pictures of the Uchiha Bros on the wall in front of his desk
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>>289844951
I mean are their jutsus amped by Kabuto? tayuya putting Itachi and Sasuke in a genjutsu alone is an impressive feat. Then needing amaterasu just to destroy Kidomaru's webs is also a good feat.
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>>289844917
Yeah thats weird as well. If he cant stop you slicing him through the torso, slice through his forehead, and leave the tag in the head hole it creates. These are top tier shinobi and Kabuto has sage mode. It really shouldn't be too much of a speed feat to ask for.
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>>289845046
The fuck is the left picture supposed to be?
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>>289845073
>I mean are their jutsus amped by Kabuto?
Yes.
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>>289845018
I was more worried for Naruto as recently as Pain. It being shounen and knowing muh main character will never die does not excuse zero tension writing.
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>>289843639
>Cutting already grown bones somehow stops new ones to spawn in your direction
Explain this.
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>>289845073
They all struggled against 2 tired out Konoha jounin and all jobbed to genin. Kimimaro is the only one worth mentioning.
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>>289845130
Well then I take it back.
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>>289845093
The schizo that spent 30 years to give us Goofy
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Imma be honest with you guys, Sakon's kekkei genkai allowing you to make a clone that copies the abilities of whoever DNA they fused with retroactively makes multiple events in part 1 completely retarded.
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>>289845133
>I was more worried for Naruto as recently as Pain
I don't see how
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>>289844096
Yeah sadly we're now past the point of clever fights. It's just spamming S-tier jutsu's from here on out.
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>>289845195
Is this implied? Kabuto surely boosted his the twins' ability as well. They may have had a primitive version that only allowed their body sharing. Kabuto/Orochimaru is also literally The DNA Sample guy. Nobody else but Kabuto probably could use the ability like this.
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>>289843739
Why use Tsukuyomi? Seems like overkill. Did it replace his normal genjutsu entirely or what?
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>>289845200
I mean this was the guy who just killed Jiraiya and Naruto was using a lot of his techniques for the first time in real combat. It was written better than this slop.
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>>289844791
>Maybe if they lived to part 2
Pretty sure that's what that anon was referring to.
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>>289845321
Anon...
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>>289845300
Unlimited chakra, why not? The end goal is "use genjutsu to release Sasuke", may as well use the strongest one you have to make sure it works unless chakra is an issue
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>>289844897
>if she did things she didn't do she'd be considered op
Stellar speculation.
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>>289845195
>Sakon's kekkei genkai allowing you to make a clone that copies the abilities of whoever DNA they fused with
It doesn't allow that. Kabuto literally just uses his kekkei genkai to "reconstruct" into the other members. He can only use their abilities because Kabuto has their DNA as well. Sakon is basically a glorified transformation jutsu in Kabuto.
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>>289843775
This is like the 3rd time where stabbing/slicing Itachi (an edo) is made to be a big deal... What's the stake? That he needs time to regenerate and Kabuto could get control of him again in the meantime?
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>>289844791
They were more impressive in CS2 than many tokubetsu jounin like Kakashi
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>>289843775
And just like that, the fight is over. Welcome to loop hell Kabuto, not getting out until you start worshipping solo king
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>>289845264
Pretty sure the ability would need to exist before hand for Kabuto to know it's possible and learn it.
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>>289845374
Yes. That's how every "if you really think about it" scenario works. Dumbass.
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>>289843538
>>289843558
Nice little detail that Kishi acknowledged Sasuke dropping his sword and picking it up in the back round for continuity.
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>>289845378
Please understand, Kishi only knows two ways to end a chapter: either someone takes what appears to be a devastating blow it isn't with a shocked face, or a character announces something big is about to happen (often coming completely out of nowhere)
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>>289844951
>>289845166
Sasuke went from being a shitter weaker than Sakon in SRA to beating Deidara in early-to-mid Shippuden. It's not that far-fetched to say the Sound 4 would have each been high jonin level individually after the timeskip and kage level together.
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>>289845377
That's my point, if Sakon were to successfuly merge with Kiba in their fight he'd be able to do the same thing, or at least he'd eventually be able to.
>>289845399
Kakashi isn't tokubetsu.
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>>289845300
Itachi's Tsukuyomi allows for him to manipulate the perception of time, so even in the middle of combat it lets him get in a quick (yet fulfilling) mindrape session with his brother
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>>289845416
The whole point of his character right now is he's gone beyond even Orochimaru, who was a coward and wanted to make sure what he used to prolong his life was safe and effective. He wanted to live forever. Kabuto doesn't even want that, he wants to "discover" himself or "become" something real, even if he dies right after. He's full mad scientist, and with the limited time frame, I would even believe what hes doing currently with the Sound Kids is something he hasn't battle tested yet. He's literally experimenting on the battlefield.
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>>289845511
Stolen Sharingan merchant
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>>289844897
That's not even true kek. Most of the time when explosive tags are used people just jump out of the smoke without being harmed at all.
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>>289845511
>That's my point, if Sakon were to successfuly merge with Kiba in their fight he'd be able to do the same thing, or at least he'd eventually be able to.
Nothing implies that. His jutsu is just to reconstruct, there's nothing about mimicking or absorbing his opponents abilities. Kabuto is literally just using him to change appearances to the other Sound members. It's pretty hilarious when you realize how pointless Sakon's inclusion is.
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>>289845634
>Most of the time when explosive tags are used people just jump out of the smoke without being harmed at all.
Go ahead and pull up examples of this. People always go out of their way to avoid them
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Man. Some of you are really retarded and read way more into this kid's manga than what's actually presented. I don't blame you, you basically have to if you want Naruto to be interesting, but these character wank scenarios are fan-fiction tier cringe inducing
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>>289845636
>Nothing implies that
Why else would he pop out Sakon's face and yell out his kekkei genkai? He wanted to transform into the faces of the sound 4 just to make Sasuke remember them?
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>>289843660
Still would?
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>>289845828
>Why else would he pop out Sakon's face and yell out his kekkei genkai?
Because Kishi wanted to include all the previous Sound members. Why would he even bother with Jirōbō just to use basic bitch Earth jutsu when Kabuto can change the landscape of the battlefield with sage mode? Why bother with Tayuya when Kabuto has his own effective sound genjutsu? It's Kishi giving a homage to past characters. You're making more if it than what it is.
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>>289845931
>Kabuto has his own effective sound genjutsu?
He doesn't.
>Because Kishi wanted to include all the previous Sound members.
The irl reason does not take away the in-universe implication.
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>>289844232
Since when were you under the impression that you WEREN'T under a genjutsu?
This entire chapter was a fake fight.
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>>289843660
Pfffft Uchiha shits
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>>289845813
>Just don't think about it bro
Aight Kishi.
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>>289845931
Pretty sure Jirobo was summoned to enhanced his earth jutsus rather than because he can't use them at all.
Also, Kabuto never used sound genjutsu, the only one he used was visual.
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>>289844811
No, Kabuto is the revenge of the side character, ranting how unimportant he is. However I took no joy in his takedown because Itachi and Sasuke always put their noses so high.
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>>289845931
>Why bother with Tayuya when Kabuto has his own effective sound genjutsu?
Nitpicking, but it's not a genjutsu. It's a real flashbang. Although way more effective than Tayuya's genjutsu if his opponents didn't have chakra mechs.
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>>289845399
No. The Sound 4 only seemed impressive because they fought against enemies with very low base stats. Part 1 Kakashi would mid diff every single one of them and Part 2 Kakashi low diff them, even with Cursed Seal active from the start.

Kimimaro is the only exception.
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>>289843775
Good chappy, Tayuya upscale to above kage level
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>>289846190
She wasn’t that well endowed when alive. Kabuto adjusted their DNA to his tastes.
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>>289846322
>Part 1 Kakashi would mid diff these 14 year olds
Very impressive.
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>>289843577
>>289843595
>>289843660
The fact that Kabuto used these guys implies that Orochimaru never trained better minions than the sound four. Which I find hard to believe. A bunch of teenagers that got ultimately defeated by chuunin. Ofc the actual reason is member berries, but still... Just give us at least one we don't know yet, that died more than 2 years ago for example.
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>>289843775
NOOOOOOOOOO
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>>289846400
Who trained Dosu's team? Surely their sound related techniques must've been learned at the Sound village.
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>>289846398
And he would spend a month in the ICU for it
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>>289846400
Orochimaru's top level people were the ones who could survive the curse mark
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>>289846400
After the Chuunin Exams, the story pretends Orochimaru doesn't have any mooks besides the named ones. The only other people we see are those prisoners Kabuto makes kill each other for Orochimaru's replacement body but those ninja with the snake pattern clothing never appear again even 2 years later in-story.
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>>289846448
>sound related
They were more air pressure or force related rather than using sound in any way
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>>289846398
Not saying he is. I’m saying the Sound 4 aren’t particularly powerful. The reason kabuto is using them is so we can have a nostalgia bait mention of these characters, that’s it.

It would’ve been way more rational for him to go for Kage or Akatsuki abilities.
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Man. The storm games really amped this fight up.
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>>289846052
>The irl reason does not take away the in-universe implication
What a retarded comment.
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>>289846400
Orochimaru himself is vastly underpowered in Part II, why wouldn’t his minions be?
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>>289846520
>I’m saying the Sound 4 aren’t particularly powerful
For their age and when compared to the Konoha kids, they were.
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>>289846530
The Storm games improve almost every fight.
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>>289846400
>ultimately defeated by chuunin.
They were genin
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>>289846499
>After the Chuunin Exams
Yeah but before that? Orochimaru did some nasty stuff for like 20 years and he couldn't spawn a single noteworthy pawn during that time?
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Why does this /v/ schizo always try to force the storm games into these threads when there's an entire board he can go discuss it?
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>>289846095
Not what I said, but you're all basically just talking fanfiction at this point.
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>>289843538
I wish Kishi gave him any kind of development in the past because pages like this make me wish he was better written
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>>289846726
That's literally every character in this manga
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>>289843955
On the other hand, DBZ I thought was super enjoyable on the reread. All Naruto has at the end of the day is a top tier anime adaption.
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>>289843518
>And that was my story
Lmao, did he just tell them his whole backstory for real?
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Would Kabuto have made a better final boss? It honestly feels like he'd be better as Naruto's antagonist.
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>>289846867
No, absolutely not. He doesn’t even work as a side boss.

His backstory is way too generic and flimsy to justify the mass genocide he’s responsible for. And then he’s also supposed to be sympathetic and redeemable. Blergh.
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>>289846867
Maybe. You would ahve to lay the groundwork since early Shippuden. He sort of works like what Tobi wanted to be. A nobody.
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>>289843577
>>289843595
>>289843612
>>289843685
>basic sound 4 jutsu are taken seriously by these guys
Sound 4 were high jonin/kage tier
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>>289846918
...but enough about Tobi
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>>289846448
Whoever trained Kin certainly didn't do enough
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>>289846769
That's becauss Toriyama is actually deserving of his status. All the spic-memes aside, Dragonball has much better execution than Naruto ever did. Naruto is really the epitome of right place right time. It was a great manga during its time, but it does not hold up and it rode entirely on aesthetics. Naruto looked really cool and had good designs, and that carried it hard. Similar to Bleach, but Bleach actually holds up better than Naruto, despite it's faults.
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>>289846499
There were hundreds of useless goons that Sasuke defeated in his training.
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>>289846867
>final boss
In comparison to Madara Obito or Kaguya?
Anyone is better than the space bunny, Obito is really lame, so really Madara is the only one you can say is better, and even then, Madara's whole motivation and being a relic of the past makes him pretty lame as a final boss.
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>>289847150
Dragon ball declined way way more than Naruto. Unless you consider boruto part of Naruto

I’m certain dragon ball introduced more shonen tropes and is more important historically. But overall better, idk
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>>289847035
Kin kinda cute.
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>>289847024
Tobi is just as bad. But Infinite Tsukuyomi is at least an endgame that makes sense.

What’s Kabuto’s endgame? Kill everyone so he doesn’t suffer from his inferiority complex any longer? Eh.
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>>289847234
The buu arc is better than anything in part 2 Naruto, and that's agreed to be the worst part of DB
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>>289846400
>ultimately defeated by chuunin
Technically only Kidomaru got beaten fairly by Neji. Choji cheated and Shikamaru and Kiba needed backup. Also Temari's fighting style completely countered Tayuya's.
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>>289843577
what was the point of starting with one guy to morph into another guy
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>>289847294
Nta bit becoming the Sage of the Six Paths would be as good of a motivation as any
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>>289846769
>All Naruto has at the end of the day is a top tier anime adaption.
That's being a bit too generous.
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>>289847294
>Infinite Tsukuyomi is at least an endgame that makes sense
No it's not. It's such a retarded plan. Madara and Obito could just live in their own lala dream land. There's no point in forcing everyone else into a false reality just for them to waste away and eradicate humanity.

Why not skip the middle man and just say you want to eradicate humanity?
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>>289847371
Nigga no. The origin story of Buu is just comically bad and doesn’t explain his power level.

I don’t remember DBZ well but I’m firmly in the «should’ve ended after Frieza» camp.

The last moment it wasn’t absolutely indifferent to it was when Gohan became a fightfag too. And even then the cracks were already showing.
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>>289847397
If Choji cheated then all the Sound 5 cheated the moment they used their curse marks.
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>>289843685
Uchiha stock in free fall
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>>289846918
>final boss needs le backstory to justify their actions
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>>289843976
They are not going all out though, at least Solo King.
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>>289847437
Yeah it would’ve made more sense as an universal offer to join their LSD trip to utopia voluntarily.

But I see what they ultimately want to achieve. I don’t see that with kabuto. And kabuto is just as bad as a mass murderer as them.
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>>289847493
>The origin story of Buu is just comically bad
In comparison to the alien moon bunny? It's not even close. DB at its worst is still better than anything in Part 2. The main reason is because DB never took itself too seriously like Naruto did. Kishi couldn't handle the mature elements and dilemmas he tried to present into the story.
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>>289843775
>I shan't!
very OOC
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>>289847294
This has been said before but Infinite Tsukuyomi only works as a plan for Obito, who is a forever alone nihilistic autist. Madara is a warmonger with a bloated ego who loves to flex his power level in front of other people. He also has no problems with ruthlessly killing people that stand in his way, and flashback showed that he had an authoritarian mindset and wanted other nations to submit to Konoha. Him wanting to force everyone into a dream world to end all conflict just doesn't fit him.
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>>289847414
1. He never expressed that afaik.
2. Kabuto knew nothing about him. When the Sage of Six Path is revealed, he is a hippie that’s absolutely nothing like Kabuto or Orochimaru
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>>289847493
>I don’t remember DBZ well but I’m firmly in the «should’ve ended after Frieza» camp
A fair comparison to this is Naruto and Pain. Everything in DB up to Frieza > Naruto up to Pain, and everything after Frieza in DB >>>>>> Naruto after Pain.
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What's hotter, Naruto x Sarada or Naruto x Chouchou?
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>>289847597
But Kaguya isn’t “everything in part 2”, it’s the buu of Naruto if you will

(More the Beerus actually, but by then the series has jumped a legion of sharks already)
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>>289847493
>The origin story of Buu is just comically bad
Of all the things you could complain about regarding Dragon Ball lore you picked this? A random scientist from Earth making androids that were 5 times stronger than Frieza was far more egregious.
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>>289847747
Kys
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>>289847737
But the Pain arc sucks and is extremely overrated.
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>>289847760
>Beerus
Nobody is talking about DBS, if you want to open that can of worms, you're including Boruto in the conversation.
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>>289847800
Which is why DB >> Naruto
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>>289847747
Futa Tsunade (XXL) x Boruto
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>>289847760
Anon. Part 2 has been horrendously horrible with a few exceptions.
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>>289843775
ggs kabuto, shake my hand
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>>289847761
Yeah that was already bad

Buu is even worse
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Kabuto's logic doesn't even make sense on a basic level. He's absorbed so many people and just got more confused as a result. How the fuck does adding people into you make you know who you are?
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>>289847923
How?
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>>289847610
I don’t remember madara’s big flashback well, I’ll need another look at it to evaluate

I think there are two very conflicting aspects of his character, of being a boastful fightfag and a tragic figure mourning the loss of his brother and clan. But the latter was actually introduced earlier afaik.

When Tobi LARPs as Madara, he exclusively tells how grim his life was
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>>289847747
Naruto (me) x Sarada, next
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>>289848055
When I read comments like this, it makes me wonder if I just have a better memory than most or most people are really this stupid.
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>>289848055
>I don’t remember madara’s big flashback well, I’ll need another look at it to evaluate
I was referring to Onoki's flashback from earlier, where Madara tells him his village needs to submit to Konoha.
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>>289847710
I'm just saying as a possible motivation if we could give him. If it's never enough for him than the end point would be becoming a god
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>>289847962
Okay, he and Cell are equally bad, but the fact he comes after Cell and doubles down on the same writing mistake, made him worse.
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why do women like Kakashi so much?
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>>289848102
I wrote I don’t remember Madaras big flashback that’s still to come well. Afaik it explains how he started out as somewhat hopeful (even was Hashiramas friend for a while) and then became nihilist. If it doesn’t, then, well …
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>>289848199
Why do you make pointless comments when there's actually discussion for once?
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>>289847950
Well, I sort of see it that once he has everything he'll achieve a transformation into the self he's searching for.
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>>289847610
It would have been more fun if Madara was detached from the plan and just now found out that there is a clown running around wearing his name in order to strip humanity of their free will
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>>289848225
Idk anon, I read a manga or book and I tend to remember everything in it.
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>>289847880
I think it was okay until the Kage summit arc. The War arc is where it falls apart.
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>>289848279
All 600 chapters? Idk. Congratulations if that’s the case.

Many anons here are actually in awe because they don’t remember everything and are thus surprised by how bad some chapters truly are.
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>>289848332
>Many anons here are actually in awe because they don’t remember everything
Grim. Luckily I know "many anons" = 3-4
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>>289848199
Because he's handsome, mysterious, confident, nonchalant, strong, and reliable.
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>>289846499
Kabuto mentioned other sound nins in tenchi bridge.
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>>289848290
Nta but for me the Kazekage arc was the only acceptable part of Shippiden. The Tenchi Bridge is basically filler, the Kakuzu and Hidan arc is a bunch of retarded shikawank and its premise goes against one of the story's main themes with 0 self-awareness, and the Pain arc is the one everyone keeps treating like the peak of the series, but everything in it felt like the most underwhelming shit ever except for Naruto's enter.
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>>289846546
Not retarded at all, that reasoning applies to fucking everything, don't make any in-depth analyzes of any implications within a story because the author is just bullshiting as he went along.
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>>289848290
>I think it was okay until the Kage summit arc.
Gaara rescue was okay. The tenchi bridge is horrible. Sai and Yamato are lame additions. The zombie duo and Shikamaru wank is bad. Sasuke vs Deidara is decent, even with the asspulls and Uchiha wank. Sasuke vs Itachi was underwhelming and we all know the Uchiha massacre gets worse the more Kishi tries to expand on it. Itachi being a double agent was horrible execution. Pain vs Jiraiya was decent, except Jiraiya dying to "verify what he suspects" was pretty contrived instead of him getting the Hell out of dodge to relay what he knew. We needed Naruto development though, so I get it. Pain vs Naruto is more underwhelming than most remember, and we all know "i don't have an answer, but just trust me bro" and reviving everyone was a horrible ending. Bee vs Sauske was nice except for Sauske's inconsistent characterization and suddenly caring about his teammates only to immediately disregard them in the very next arc is laughable.
>The War arc is where it falls apart
It was falling apart before that.
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>>289843558
>Kabuto: and this was my sad story
>Sasuke: Are we sure it's good to keep him alive?!
Lol, no emphaty whatsoever
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>>289834416
>Children
>Snakes
>And Kabuto fakes
>These were the ingredients chosen to create the perfect little vessel
>But Professor Kabutonium accidentally added an extra ingredient to the concoction--
>Gay Sauce
>Thus, The Emo Snake Sage was born!
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>>289848114
That scene makes no sense from a power level point of view, btw.

Mū had a VERY decent shot at killing pre-Rinnegan Madara. Dust Style + total invisibility requires highly specific counters that Madara didn’t have (yet).
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>>289848587
4/10 for effort
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>>289848362
Only the handsome part is true and that wasn’t confirmed until after the manga ended.

Strong goes out of the window after the Itachi/Kisame fight and reliable isn’t even true for the very first arc where he nearly got his students killed multiple times.
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>>289848608
we see that Madara was holding back when he whips out his ultra super perfect susanoo, and Ohnoki comments that they never stood a chance back then
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>>289843719
>Until you accept your true self, you can't win this fight

Spoiler: Kabuto will find his true self and still lose the fight
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>>289848769
>Kabuto will find his true self and still lose the fight
After the fight concludes...
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>>289848691
… that makes even less sense.

The reason Madara isn’t one-shot by Dust Release is the Rinnegan, he says so outright iirc. Mu not only had that, he could also fire it completely out of nowhere.
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>>289846400
Kabuto had to set up a battle royale between a bunch of slave jobbers to find Oro a new body after Kimimaro failed to deliver Sauce and croaked. The guy who "won" didn't even seem to have a kekkei genkai. I totally believe that's the best they got.
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>>289843775
>SHAN'T
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>>289848793
>that makes even less sense
Take it up with Kishi. He wanks Madara and Hashirama until the end and completely ignores the "previous generation is surpassed by the next" motif he abandoned in part 1.
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Sex with Shino!!!
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>>289848580
You generally seem to agree, it had its okay moments which also happen to be most of the runtime.

Itachi vs Sasuke was also absolutely great WHEN IT CAME OUT, I remember those times. You cannot say the fight wasn’t great technically.

It’s only underwhelming in hindsight, once you know there was never a fight to begin with. But that’s true for every “double agent” plot twist in general
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>>289843704
This is so deeply homosexual

>>289844605
Even as a soulless replica he's into this shit
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>>289848467
I don’t think it’s Shikawank. Hidan is a one trick pony most Jonin could beat once they know his trick.

Shikawank is when Tobi comments how he’s devastated by the fact Shikamaru is on the opponents’ side.
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>>289848362
>handsome
he literally wears a mask
>mysterious
because of what? everyone knows about his sharingan
>confident
lost many times in front of genin main trio and literally couldn't save Sasuke from Haku, it was bullshit luck.
>strong, and reliable.
he lost all battles and can't even keep Sasuke in the village

While he reads erotica books daily...

these are not positive traits. they literally like a headcanon version of kakashi


so they ignore he reads erotica books while doing the kancho to Naruto?
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>>289849069
>You generally seem to agree
Not really. I give you a pass on the Kazekage Arc and highlight parts that were *okay* in the rest of the arcs. Part 2 is pretty bad overall. I also remember hating the Tenchi bridge and zombie duo when it came out. There was shock value with Asuma dying, but Kakuzu never felt like an actual threat and Hidan was just lame. Obviously everyone liked the brother fight since that was Sasuke's entire character, and I personally remember liking Itachi keeping Sasuke alive for the sole purpose of collecting his eyes, but it immediately got ruined with "ackually your brother mind raped you and tortured you because he loved you ~" even when that reveal was first dropped I thought it was stupid.
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>>289849190
It's Shikawank because Hidan is completely untouchable until he meets Shika who makes some basic deductions based on Hidan shouting about how his technique works. Then everyone praises Shika for those and Hidan decides to stop dodging so Shika can demonstrate the full power of his intellect that allows him to beat an opponent that can't move for 10 minutes.
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>>289843538
>I'm so sad.
>im gonna have sex with my zombie sugar daddy and a bunch of dead teenagers so i wont be so sad
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>>289849069
>You cannot say the fight wasn’t great technically
Yes I can. It was 3 chapters of both of them doing nothing (genjutsu), then Itachi gets hit by the first shuriken Sasuke throws, Amaterasu jobs to a regular fireball on its first showing and both of them are too tired from the do nothing portion to actually have a fight.
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>>289849190
Anon, did you forget about circleposting?
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>>289849190
>Shikawank is when Tobi comments how he’s devastated by the fact Shikamaru is on the opponents’ side.
That part is even more hilarious since Darui makes the exact same deduction before Shikamaru does, but Tobi has to comment how super high IQ Shikamaru is.
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>>289847294
Actually let’s say Kabuto wins here, puts Edo Itachi under his control again, takes Sasuke’s body, gets everything he wants. What’s the point? In under a day Obito/Madara will activate Infinite Tsukuyomi, and Kabuto will be put under it too. He’ll get to be his true self for like 10 hours and then it’s over
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>>289849840
Kabuto stops helping Tobi and let's him lose the war. Infinite Tsukuyomi never happens. He should be able to just put Madara back in his box instead of releasing edo tensei, but I'm sure Madara has some bullshit counter to that too. The other option is Kabuto just takes over Madara completely so he can't BS his way free, but it depends if Kishi wants to act like Madara is above Kabuto and can break control like Hashirama and Orochimaru(retcon).
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>>289849190
>Shikamaru being able to run circles around 2 tail by scale is not wank
Anon...
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>>289850061
Hidan was defeated by the two-tails though.
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>>289846505
Huh? Dosu literally uses sound waves to attack and could tell what people were writing by the sound of their pencils.
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>>289850132
The Yugito/2-Tail obsession has been one of the most forced things in this daily
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>>289843756
>Itachi made him cry
kwab
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>>289850061
naruto isn't dragonball. it wasn't purely about linear power levels, roughly up until the war arc.
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>>289843704
How tf does Kabuto know about Sasuke's childhood with Itachi?
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>>289843756
I love how Sasuke and Itachi's entire moveset is just susan spam now. So unique.
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>>289850363
Yeah, but Shikamaru beat Hidan purely based on his speed.
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>>289850363
>It wasn't purely about linear power
Except it is, the only reason any part of Shika's plan worked on Hidan is because he had to outspeed him 5 times in a roll (without getting tired, mind you).
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>>289844354
I thought it meant that his body was turning into water
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>>289850231
>meant that his body was turning into w
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Hiashi won.
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I think you all expect WAY too much from a long-running fight shonen if you genuinely believe sasuke vs itachi or kakuzu & hidan vs team shikawankers are bad fights

as far as the medium goes, they're all very well written, with clear motivations, a showcase of the full moveset being used effectively, strategies that make sense within the rules of the universe. show me a fight in bleach, or dragon ball, or one piece that has all of these

it's only in the war arc when the cracks start to show
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>>289846363
She was sorta like that when the Sound 4 arc started, Kishi just ended up drawing her flatter and flatter as time moved on.
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>>289850717
Not gonna lie, it was pretty hard to understand what you were saying with Kishi's cock in your mouth
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>>289850717
>a showcase of the full moveset being used effectively
Hidan literally didn't get to do anything vs Shika. Kishi even said he was supposed to have more abilities he didn't get to use.
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>>289844526
That Susanoo is boosted by the Rinnegan
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>>289846465
I lost to Tayuya CM1...
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>>289850717
>sasuke vs itachi
First half of the fight is just genjutsu with Sasuke breaking out of Itachi's MS which can later be excused since Itachi wanted to lose the fight. The fight is okay for the most part, but it introduces Susanoo, which would be digestible if it was unique to Itachi only, but the mechazoid chakra suits are stupid.
>or kakuzu & hidan vs team shikawankers
There is just nothing good about Shikamaru beating Hidan. It only succeeds because Kakashi was willing to help his team on their suicide mission. Shikamaru doesn't get Kakuzu's blood without Kakashi's help, and his speed blitz feats against Hidan are so contrived in universe. The fight ending with Kakuzu standing around waiting to be hit by Naruto's new jutsu so he can showcase it was also forced.
>as far as the medium goes, they're all very well written, with clear motivations, a showcase of the full moveset being used effectively, strategies that make sense within the rules of the universe
You can not believe this with the zombie vs shika fight. Sasuke vs Deidara also relies on multiple asspulls for Sasuke to come out on top.
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>>289843577
The dialogues are really quite bad
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>>289850717
they are bad fights bro. after the 5th time when he uses the "it was a clone, no no actually you were inside my genjutsu, actually you were inside my super genjutsu" thing it gets boring as hell.

and in the Shikamaru fight the "genius idea" was "hmm actually, it was not my blood, it was someone else's blood and you Hidan that was sent to literally kill Bijuus have never thought about someone using a fake arm movement to put some blood on your giant weapon, I Shikamaru 500 IQ genius am the only one who could deduce you needed your victim's blood and I just needed this super convenient thing of you being dumb + everyone else around me being stupid and I won.."

it was dogshit
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>>289844526
... because it's visual, retard-kun
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>>289851091
>after the 5th time when he uses the "it was a clone
funny because that trope is already used in the very first major fight of the series, kakashi vs zabuza

>uuuhm ACTUALLY that was my SECOND clone and the REAL me was standing behind you the entir- ACK
>good job disposing of my THIRD clone, but ...
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>>289843775
Kabuto is now 3-0 against Itachi.
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>>289850717
>show me a fight in bleach
Bleach is all about style and most the fights execute this well. Urahara and Mayuri fights tend to be ridiculously stupid and entertaining, especially the latter.
>or dragon ball
Naruto can't even compete with early DB, and by the time we get to Namek, it just comes down to who has the bigger dick, but DB never breaks its own established rules
>one piece
Can't speak for One Piss since I never read it

>Bleach
Ichigo vs Ulquiorra is still more hype than most Naruto fights
>Dragonball
I really don't think Naruto has anything that beats Goku vs Freiza

I do appreciate that you didn't mention HxH since we all know it mogs Naruto in every aspect
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>>289844201
He's not, he gets in there once Itachi closes the loop.
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>>289850730
I don't think she was flat by her fight with Shika.
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>>289847950
Orochimaru groomed him into a mentat.
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>>289850717
>t.
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>>289851165
that was badass at that time because you were made to believe these things will be explained later, it loses impact later when it's never explained how can elite ninjas use substitution with clones, it also helped that there was mist everywhere, Zabuza was using the mist to counter Kakashi's Sharingan, there was the water style jutsu, hand signs, the dog summons etc.

Itachi vs Sasuke seems to be only illusion after illusion and we already know that Kishimoto uses clone substitutions without ever explaining how it can work
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>>289850730
>>289851348
There was a whole ass panel with shika shadow crawling up her torso along some boobage, what the fuck are youse on about
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>>289851470
The wood switcheroo never made sense to begin with.
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the answers to the points raised itt are so simple that its irritating to type them out

e.g. Mu developed invisibility to counter Sharingan and Dust Release to beat MS Armor (or water body), so the Madara fight fits in before those jutsu were developed
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>>289847950
>How the fuck does adding people into you make you know who you are?
Then you can rest assured that you're a freak of nature.
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>>289851541
Well, what do you see?
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>>289851555
>Mu developed invisibility to counter Sharingan and Dust Release to beat MS Armor (or water body), so the Madara fight fits in before those jutsu were developed
That is 100% your headcannon
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>>289851667
Me as the hands.
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>>289851555
>Mu developed a kekkei genkai
uh yeah
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>>289850717
Zombie duo vs InoShikaCho, sucks on principle because Kishimoto already established in the first fight that Hidan and Kakuzu stat mog Shikamaru and Co. too much for them to do anything without some relevant help or Shikamaru getting giga buffed, both of which ended up happening in the second round, not to mention that it completely ruins the whole "revenge bad" plotline that was already set up.
A good writer would have Tsunade break Shikamaru's jaw when he's proposing that 3 chunin could stall the duo and stop them from killing themselves OR deliberately let the unbuffed team fight and let natural selection do it's thing.
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>>289851667
That's a man!
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>>289851555
Yeah, none of that makes sense since Ohnoki currently has dust release and gets completely broken when he sees Madara's perfect Susan
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>>289851720
>A good writer would have Tsunade break Shikamaru's jaw when he's proposing that 3 chunin could stall the duo
at this point she already sent 5 random genin on a critical mission that would decide the fate of the leaf village ...

the writing never stood up to much scrutiny
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2 cool characters die to Shikamaruwank. you hate to see it
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>>289851788
Hidan was never cool
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>>289851760
Madara is much more powerful in terms of sheer destruction

BUT

Mu still had a very good shot at blindside killing him. The fight shouldn't have been a one-sided beatdown. And the intact surroundings mean Madara actually never used big boy Susanoo.
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>>289851691
>That is 100% your headcannon
so is most of our convo - trying to explain what we read according to the logic of the story

>>289851713
>>Mu developed a kekkei genkai
>uh yeah
its not a KG, its a KTota/Mora
jutsu are developed, not magically blossoming into development randomly

its directly stated that Mu TAUGHT the jutsu to Onoki, so...

as i said, too irritating to type out and faggits are both dumb and carry attitude
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>>289851811
His interactions with Kakuzu and his attitude are pretty fun.
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>>289843739
>tsukuyomi
Itachi really took anywhere up to 3 days to free Sasuke, and didn't take that time to explain Izanami (or anything else at all) to him.
Using Tsukuyomi on your ally as a free talking and strategizing break sounds kinda broken, actually.
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>>289851769
In that arc, you at least had the half assed excuse that Konoha couldn't send anyone else to fight.
In here, they HAD more competent characters to fight, but Shikawank had to get his wish fullfilment.
Also, Naruto nearly killed Kabuto at this point, so as far as Tsunade was concerned Oro's henchmen would be weak Sauce.
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>>289851820
>And the intact surroundings mean Madara actually never used big boy Susanoo.
No shit. Thus the reason why Onoki comments that he was holding bsck in the past. There's nothing that implie Mu didn't have his signature moves during this encounter, it actually doesn't make sense for Mu to even be Kage without them. Your headcannon doesn't hold up.
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>>289851760
because the team is super tired while Madara has Finnegan + infinite chakra

its Uchiha wank by the story, but there is legitimate reason to his expression
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>>289851844
>>289851908
I think this is a case where we're arguing with a troll or someone who believes they're more intelligent than they actually are. Hard to tell these days.
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>>289851769
Two bads doesn't make one right, Tsunade allowing InoShikaCho to not take her authority seriously and have them marching to their graves is still dogshit.
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>>289851890
I agree with you, it's not my theory Mu came up with his entire skillset just to counter a specific matchup.

I initially said it makes little sense for Mu to be completely trashed by Madara. Is he overall weaker? Yes, but he still had a very decent shot at blindsiding and killing him.
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Reminder that Ino and Choji literally didn't do anything in the fight to avange their mentor kek.
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>>289851811
>the masochistic dude using triple giant scythe weapon with extensions and cursed jutsu ability was never cool bro
>please like Choji and Jugo
yeah sure
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>>289851988
Shikamaru told the taijutsu expert on his team not to do anything because the risk of getting cut by Hidan was too big, then went by himself and threw a punch at him.
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>>289851956
>I initially said it makes little sense for Mu to be completely trashed by Madara
Not really. Madara is played up as being Hashirama's equal multiple times by this point. Kishi hammers it into the story that Madara and Hashirama were in a league of their own. Madara also could have had the 9-tails at his disposal during this encounter.

From what we've actually seen? Sure, Mu should be able to go invisible, assuming Madara's sharingan doesn't see through it, and snipe Madara with dust release. Mu should be able to do that to anyone, but he lost to the 2nd Mizukage despite having this OP skillset.

Clearly, Kishi is just a shit writer.
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>>289852007
All those characters are lame
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>>289851988
Um, actually, Ino scouts out the enemy through a pigeon in the sky.
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>>289852156
name a character cooler than Hidan
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>>289852123
Mu has actually to reveal himself to use Dust Style. So he's "only" strong at forcing ties, which is how his battle with the Second Mizukage ended, they've both killed one another at the same moment.
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>>289852248
Tenten, Sakura, Kiba ... the list goes on
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>>289852248
Bruh, Hidan is the lamest Akatuski member besides his partner and Zetsu. Not a very high bar.
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>>289852296
>Mu has actually to reveal himself to use Dust Style
I mean, depending how quickly he can shoot it off, it's still ridiculously OP if it allows him to get in range of his target.
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>>289852201
She didn't do anything WITHIN the fight.
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>>289852344
>the lamest Akatsuki member
you played yourself like a fool. Akatsuki's are the coolest fucking people
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>>289852415
>She didn't do anything WITHIN the fight
She gets choked out, actually.
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>>289852503
That's filler
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>>289852248
Not that anon and I did say Hidan was cool. But I CAN name a cooler character.
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>>289852415
She suggested doing something!
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>>289852399
they called me a troll for presenting a reasonable explanation to this very issue while they are left cursing the writer or with a million questions. that should tell you what kind of posters youre dealing with

as for your point, its simple. Sharingan, even if it can precog, cant see from behind. all Mu has to do is go invisible and then go behind the opponent, waiting for a good moment to shoot beams
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>>289852592
Yeah...she still gets caught by the tentacles in the end though
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>the hidanfag and yugitofag were the same person all along
Wouldn't surprise me
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>>289852432
>Akatsuki's are the coolest fucking people
if you're 14 and your favourite band is linkin park

not that its bad, we all went through that phase
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>>289852660
You're assuming Madara's sharingan wouldn't see through his invisibility
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>>289852726
What's with these threads' obsession with making everyone they don't like into one person?
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>>289852777
That happens in every general or otherwise long running thread.
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>>289852726
Both are DailyFagmen personas
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The dumbest part of this entire war for me is the fact Kabuto didn't just use Deidara to continuously nuke the alliance.
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>>289852763
>You're assuming Madara's sharingan wouldn't see through his invisibility
yeah, as was the anon i was replying to
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>>289847493
Buu saga is the most fun to revisit and the comedy gags are hillarious. You just go filtered.
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>>289852835
He can't recover from that.
Kind of like all those edos with shitty regen.
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>>289852835
overconfidence leading to messing around, happens with every villain in this story, bar none
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>>289852777
>making everyone they don't like into one person?
See >>289852806
Happens all over this website, but in the case of this general, when you know there's only a handful of regulars, it holds more validity to it.
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>>289852883
>He can't recover from that
The entire point is that he can
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so we went from 200 posts a day to hitting bump limit in one thread again after he got called out for samefagging entire "discussions"?
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>>289852814
Trvke
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btw, clone feints and basic dodging beat any precise jutsu, such as jinton

So Madara being described as a battle genius and being a tranny makes sense of him beating jinton, even if my explanation is not true
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>>289852726
Umm..NECRObump bros? We have been exposed..
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>>289852959
>ramen this ramen that
hi poopsuke
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>>289852944
>>289843463

It's a weekend and I'm bored. You're welcome.
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>>289852938
Anon, it's not unlike Kishi to contradict himself.
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>>289852987
You're just proving these threads are just you samefagging lol
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>>289852971
>Madara being described as [...] being a tranny
did I miss some important page?
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>>289853001
how do you know its just 1 extra anon? tracking IPs or something?
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>>289852987
>>289853038
Can't you two just kiss and find a room?
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>>289852971
>described as a battle genius and being a tranny
Wat
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>>289853045
transmigrant xb
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>>289853054
Because I'm that 1 extra anon. These threads are always dead otherwise. I've noticed it for awhile now. You're welcome.
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>>289853054
Juust schizoing out.
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>>289852944
>Thread is slow
>"Yawn, dead thread"
>Thread is active
>"Samefag!"
Nothing can please you, eh?
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>>289853119
i would stand defeated, if i wasnt also new (literally started itt just about an hour ago, with the Mu developments post)
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>>289853119
Wait, I thought I was that extra anon...
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>>289853144
>Thread is active
You're welcome
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>>289852971
You're telling me Madara is a trans man?
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>>289852867
I like when they introduced fusion dance and other fun creative stuff like that... modern shonen is too dark and serious man, too many tryhard powerlevel fans that can't enjoy a good story
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>>289853169
Thanks i guess.
>>289853119
What did you post here and in the last thread?
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>>289853119
We been knowing this already. You have no shame, fucking loser.
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>>289853179
Yes, that was the entire subtext of the manga. Xe wants to create a world where xe can be acknowledged as a male regardless of gender assigned at birth.
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If there's real discussion, it's because of me. If it's stupid 1 line comments like
>why do people like x
Or any sort of waifufag/shipping wars, its the OP struggling to keep the thread alive.
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>>289843660
>Tayuya will never be your siamese twin
Why live?
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>>289853215
>We
You and all your other namefag personas?
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>>289853256
samefag
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>>289853229
Oh
>>289853256
And any drama posting is also OP trying to get activity going. That's always been him.
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>We now have another persona
Geez, i can't wait for this to end.
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>>289843704
>>289843719
>Kabuto, you will never win by using skills you've learned and obtained.
>Special bloodline hax you were born with are the only valid way to win.
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real schizo hours
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Who ISN'T OP?
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>>289853179
>>289853078
see >>289853090
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>>289853304
>he thinks OP will ever let go of his forced general
Don't worry, there's still Boruto and all the other slop nobody asked for to continue this
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>>289853321
It was fine unti this faggot
>>289852944
Instigated
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>>289853357
Actually, i'm the one whose gonna dump Bort, Ramen/Sakon said they weren't going to do it.
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>I am the necrobumper
>No I AM the necrobumper
>Liard, it's actually ME, I have been the necrobumper this ENTIRE time
Someone is lying..
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btw, i got kicked out of my usual chatroom, so i will probably start posting here regularly from now on
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I’m trans btw, just like Madara. That’s why I feel I empowered reading this manga
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>>289853395
I don't really care.
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I don't get it, the chapter just has more to discuss due to the member berries.
No need for the conspirancy babble.
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>>289853428
>member berries
What
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>>289853424
Then why bring it up?
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>>289853407
Thoughts on Tayuya, Konan and Yugito?
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>>289853428
Not even the Pain arc, supposed peak of this show moved this "fast".
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>>289853423
Sakon...
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Uh oh, Sraske melty!
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>>289853448
Nostalgia bait and reference because of the sound 4 which are liked here.
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and im a phone poster (a cheap phone at that) so expect the usual issues in that regard (e.g. i cant see IPs and stuff)
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Bumpola
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>>289853455
I just pointed out that this general will find a way to continue. Myself, I don't care after chapter 700. It's been a mostly horrible experience.
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>>289853471
Because it turns out it wasn't peak.
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>>289853470
>Tayuya, Konan and Yugito
absolute love em

wait you meant power level? Jonin, above bijuu, two tiers above bijuu
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There is like 6 or 7 real people in these threads
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Finished Storm 1 and found it was bad. Storm 2 is even worse. I just want to do the fights, not walk around the village.
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>>289853471
You do realize the times these threads were hitting 700+ comments were during points of the manga where nothing significant was actually happening? It was because of metadrama like we're experiencing now.
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>>289853537
>Jonin, above bijuu, two tiers above bijuu
for Taytay, Yugito, Konan
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>>289853575
The only Naruto game I liked was Broken Bonds, which is relatively obscure and JeetBox only afaik
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>>289853556
That's max participation. There's regularly 2 or 3 at a time.
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>+400 posts
figure this thread is about to die, so i will post my power levels in the mext one
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>>289853618
It’s just me and my shadow clone buddies tbqh
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>>289853495
>which are liked here
Are they? It's basically just Tayuya faggotry.
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>>289853511
>shameless necro bumping
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>>289853537
I meant if you like them, but based powerscaling takes nonetheless.
>>289853592
Uhh, Yugito solos Konan though...
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>>289853636
And we'll be sure to ignore them
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>>289853665
>Are they? It's basically just Tayuya faggotry
well, i like Kido the most (but im the new guy who suggested Mu developed jintons for Madara and will post power levels in next thread)
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>>289853700
>Yugito solos someone stronger than the person she jobbed to
Pft
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>>289853700
>Yugito solos Konan though.
Akatsuki > Jinchuuriki, by trade
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Btw, anyone knows where i can get manga scans/chapters outside of Mangadex?
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>>289853720
Kido and Tayuya are the only interesting ones of the 4. Fat boy and faggot boy(s) are lame and nobody actually likes them outside memes.
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Shartnata Pigyuga
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>>289853665
Yeah they are.
Obviously not "fan favorite" kind of liked but still liked.
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>>289853757
reading on Mi hon (new Tach iyom i)
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>>289853757
>anyone knows where i can get manga scans/chapters outside of Mangadex?
Yeah
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Why are Sasuke and Itachi brothers?
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>>289853757
nice try shueihsa
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>>289853754
So Hidan beats KCM2 Naruto?
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>>289853783
>Fat boy and faggot boy(s) are lame and nobody actually likes them outside memes.
Kon bros need more explanation and they would be cool. Jirobo actually has the single best (pound for pound) barrier or absorption jutsu in the ENTIRE series, so that be nice about him
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>>289853839
easily

lets go, i will absolutely ruin you in proper debate!
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>>289853783
Jirobo kinda got a little bit of redemption in here because of his projection towards Choji making him the deepest sound 4 by default.
Sakon/Ukon have the potential man jobber charm, so i guess there's that.
Kimimaro is the worst since he's too much of an Oro bot despite his powerlevel.
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>>289853119
Of course, you're "me". As is everyone else in this thread.
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>>289853877
>Kimimaro is the worst
Five Dances >>>>>> the universe
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This thread is almost as good as when anon was OP :^)
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>>289853871
Eh, powerscaling is all about vibes and agenda anyways. Just testing your internal consistency.
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>>289853871
>>289853926
clearly the same person
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>>289853887
Stfu Obito
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>>289853926
cool

im a factual type poster, so i genuinely believe what i say. As for consistancy, i have everyone in my tier list, with explanations for every feat and their precise powe level and so on, except for the Demon Bros
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YOU ARE MY

FRIEND
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>>289853935
Same person? That would be ludicrous..
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>>289853887
But who am I?
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>>289850730
>acting tough
Could this brat beat a single one of them?
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>>289853995
THANK YOU MY FRIEND
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I AM MY FRIENDS
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>>289851720
>not to mention that it completely ruins the whole "revenge bad" plotline that was already set up.
It's because the plotline is "revenge bad unless Shikamaru does it".
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Thread really fell apart. Pretty reflective of Naruto on general
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>>289854070
According to Kabuto, no.
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>>289853119
Based thread savior
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>>289843518
>Itachi has so many great powers I want and...
>Sasuke you're just here for the lulz
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how will Kishimoto cast Itachi in the live action?
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>>289854080
or maybe different characters have different beliefs and Naruto is the special guy who truly believes in power of friendship in a world of child soldiers etc?
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>>289853992
The "facts" in Naruto often allow any kind of interpretation, depending on what you focus on, but feel free to post your list if you want. Always fun to see.
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This thread is getting silly, have a Moerama
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>>289854160
will do, as i believe in objectivity for things like power level.

im afraid of posting it itt as it could get washed away with the thread itself when it dies, without much chance for discussion
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>>289843639
saske

pls just shut up while the grown ups are fighting thing
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>>289854184
'rama after killing 10 thousand stone ninjas
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>>289854204
The thread has already turned to trash and people rarely have discussions anyway. Just post it or shut up.
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>>289854158
Yeah, and most of the latter story is Naruto ending the cycle of hatred and whatever. Sasuke sinks deeper into edginess both times he achieves revenge on someone but Shikamaru is safe from that because he's Shikamaru.
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This necrobumping thread isn't for me anymore
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>>289854237
>thread has already turned to trash
exactly

ok, let me wait another half day, then i will post and engage fully (im GMT +2, so its midnight rn) no matter the thread.
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>>289854154
Zendaya, obviously.
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>>289854278
Thank the konoha streetshitter
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my OC is doing the jutsu bros she's so cool
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>>289854278
Wrong. It's currently in its samefagging state.
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>>289854154
Ryan Gosling
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>>289854231
He can’t keep getting away with it!!!
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>>289854345
"Samefag" is not a term that applies to 4chan. It has the wrong definition here. That is an old forum term where threads could be filled entirely with 1 person commenting to themselves.
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So what made him flood the thread with posts this time? Is it the usual scheme of forcing the daily to bump limit real fast so he can get it off the catalog?
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at least, here is a basic summary, closely matching the speed stat

Full Aliens
Half Aliens
Rinnegan/Sannin level (everyone here is close to the sannin)
Akatsuki level
Jinchuuriki level
Bijuu/legendary kage level
Kage level
Old Heads (like Dodai, Kitsuchi etc) level
Jonin level
Chunin
Genin

exceptions exist, of course

>>289854261
fair
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>>289854386
Who is "him"?
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>>289854353
he will cast an Asian like his brother, that's the only character I believe there's a contractual obligation to not make him other race than 100% pure Jomon Japanese
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Oh naruto,naruto you’re whiskers they tickle.
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>>289854386
It's the weekend and he's bored, look at the posts above.
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I can see why he was Danzo’s first choice
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>>289854343
>AISlop
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>>289854418
The freak obsessed with his crackship between Sasuke and Hinata's little sister and tried to turn Naruto threads into /dbs/ clones, that "him".
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>>289854386
>>289854443
Samefag schizoposting
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>>289854455
Shino!
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>>289854472
Ohh, you mean Ramen/Sakon's jeet boyfriend that none of us care about?
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>>289854484
What? I'm literally just repeating this post >>289853001
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>>289854531
hi poopsuke
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>>289854584
>>289854531
Get a room!
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>>289854569
I don't think that's Sakon's boyfriend since the thread was actually on-topic before
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>>289854584
Your obsession over this boogieman will always be amusing to me
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>He's seething over the old OPs of the daily again.
Couldn't keep up the facade.
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>>289854656
It kinda wasn't, better than this but not completely.
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>>289854706
It can't see past the izzat gained from samefagging
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>>289854184
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>>289854488
The cutest!
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>>289854656
>>289854708
>thread was on topic before
>not really
well, i did post a summary of my TL but you ignored it, so...
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>Other guy is here too
You think the last chapter's thread will be the worst one yet? Like, the one were our bozos will let it all out?
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>>289854706
>>289854730
>he says, as he seethes over a poster only he still cares about
Your hypocrisy is always amusing.
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>>289854414
What about Jashin?
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>>289854771
TL?
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>>289854774
There no "other guy", smelly.
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>>289853289
>any drama posting is also OP trying to get activity going. That's always been him.
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>>289854797
ooh, forgot about that

should be above the aliens, since they are still mortal

>>289854804
Tier List

here>>289854414
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I keep saying it, but I rarely even post in these threads anymore. The War Arc has been worse than I remember and I barely even actually read most of the pages posted still. Kengan has been taking up most of my attention when it comes to manga for months now.
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When the threads devolve into this schizo drama shit, it makes me wonder why anyone even bothers dumping the chapters. It seems the regulars thrive more on low effort (You)s and the drama itself than discussing the series.
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>>289854913
The daily will reach chapter 700. Stay mad.
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>>289854904
Weird how you always say this whenever you get brought up. Also weird how the threads were completely peaceful and suddenly now that there's drama, you appear. Very weird indeed.
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>>289854414
Is Tsunade Sannin level or Kage level? She was stated to be slower than A4 just a couple chapters ago.
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>>289854904
Are you the one that posts kengan memes here?
>>289854913
Replacement should just dump 2 chapters already.
Nobody would be opposed to it now.
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>>289854913
Will you ever give up?
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>>289854954
>Tsunade
Katsuyu makes her Sannin level, but War Arc Tsunade is faaaaaaar weaker than Pain Arc Tsunade. Coma gg
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>>289854947
You truly are pathetic. I'm happy this is all you have going on in your life.
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>>289854952
>Whenever
That post was like 2 hours after his first mention.
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>>289854963
>should just dump 2 chapters already
You've already tried this proposal and it severely backfired. You just want this daily to end as quickly as possible.
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>>289854969
Give what up? Why are you even here? The thread was actually having discussions and now your usual drama shit has taken over. Is this why you keep coming back?
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>>289854952
Stop noticing.
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>>289854992
Says the guy who submits 20 posts per minute.
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>>289855041
>You just want this daily to end as quickly as possible.
So fucking what!?
I'm TIRED.
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>4(four) votes
cried
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>>289854963
Sometimes.

>>289854952
Yeah it's weird how this gay dude keeps bringing me up when I'm not even posting.
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>>289855085
you know you could do what 93.8% of humanity does and ignore the thread, right?
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>>289854988
Pain Arc Tsunade was truly impressive. That pillar stood no chance.
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>>289854997
And? Doesn't change anything else that was said. The theads have been with 2 chapters a thread, and now that the schizo drama suddenly comes back, he just coincidentally shows up?
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>>289855085
And why don't you just leave the threads if you're "tired"? The daily is not obligated to end just because you demand it.
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>>289855133
He thinks the daily needs to be "beaten".
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>>289855147
>reacting to the speed of CST when the paths themselves are already fast enough to physically react to a SM FRS
>b-but the pillar!
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>>289855132
Bruh. Nobody has been mentioning your AIDS infected ass for weeks, and now as soon as you're mentioned, you just happen to show up? Okay.
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>>289855041
>Ramen gave up
>Sakon admittedly barely comes posts here because the war is shit
What reason is there to keep posting one chapter a day? Title integrity? To spite Sasukefag?
I will keep coming here regardless, but good god does 1 chapter of war sucks.
>>
>bump limit before 4pm
And we did it without 300 replies to a Madara spread of, "MY KNEES...WHY ARE THEY BENDING?"
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>>289855151
The schizo drama starts when he shows up on calm hours too.
>>289855133
>>289855154
But i do leave, i'm following the Saint Seiya storytime to wash my mouth from here.
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>>289855197
>I will keep coming here regardless
That's obvious since you're responsible for a majority of posts.
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>>289855211
>bump limit
how is it a "limit" if we can still post itt? genuinely dont get it
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>>289855197
The namefags are all one in the same. There's never been proof to show otherwise. We would be dumping 2 chapters without the shit color otherwise.
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>>289855196
Yeah, that's what lurking is
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>>289855292
I don't know what to tell you. If there's drama in these threads, Sakon(You) always seem to show up or be connected. You can draw your own conclusions but the implication seems obvious at this point.
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>>289855187
You are the only one who cares about this imaginary war over Naruto threads dude. Get a grip. Do you even discuss the series or is your entire purpose to spite some jeet on this dead website?
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>>289855362
The implication
>>
And once again, the Pedo Faggot proves to be the worst person in these threads. At least we had a few hours of normal discussion.
>>
Tardsukebro keeps making these personas only to break character immediately when someone insults him and makes whatever narrative he was trying to push crumble before even gaining a steady foundation.
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>>289855420
Nothing in this post even tries to imply you're a different person. It's just you boiling from nobody buying your bullshit lol.
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>>289855464
Faggots sure do love their drama it seems.
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>>289855277
I'm giving the benefit of the doubt for argument's sake, you moron.
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>>289855556
Wow. This really IS all you have. Sorry for getting in the way of your weird obsessed vendetta with some jeet on this dying Ethiopian cheese rolling forum. Carry on, you pathetic existence.
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>>289855277
There has also never been any genuine proof for it either.
You faggot genuinely gotta take your meds and kiss or something.
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>>289855632
*faggots
My bad, typed fast.
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>>289855561
Faggot ass bitch
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>>289855670
Wig
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>>289855632
There actually has, just look at the difference between threads posted by all the namefags and the ones that weren't.
>>
What the heck happened in this thread?
I was saving it to read tomorrow...
>>
So what caused StP to suddenly go off the past few days?
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>>289855275
because the thread won't get bumped on the catalog after 500 posts
that means that once it reaches the bottom of the board, it'll be deleted automatically when a new thread is made
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>>289855719
The threads by anon OP were also infested with drama, don't kid yourself.
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>>289855759
Some faggot was drama deprived and started shit up again.
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>>289855211
That was so fucking cringe
>>
>>289855782
Oh, without a doubt. The drama probably peaked during that time, I don't think threads were ever reaching that many comments before, but the main thing that caused all the drama was because it wasn't a namefag posting and there was tons of spam about the jeet taking over/LLM and other stuff that all suddenly stopped when "another" namefag took over.
>>
>>289855781
ahh

ty
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>>289855211
Back when the Naruto storytime was actually fun. Man, this daily will never match how hype and enjoyable it was to be in those threads.
>>
>>289855275
How new are you? Actually curious, didn't think this site would get any new users in the year 2030 - 4.
>>
>>289855196
>>289855362
If the few times that one drawfag came back here is anything to go by, no one here would change their minds on the namefags if they stopped appearing.
Calling someone you don't like any of the namefags is already a default response anyway.
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>>289856170
All the namefags are the same person. "They" are a faggot. I don't care what other people think of "them". Doesn't change what they are.
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>>289856316
Then shut the fuck up?
Why should anyone care about you voiced opinion for the billionth time?
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>>289856455
>you're the problem for noticing the faggot appearing whenever the thread is full of drama
Ok
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>>289856455
>Why should anyone care about you voiced opinion for the billionth time?
Why aren't you responding to the guy that constantly spams jeet, poopsuke ect? He is far more annoying then people calling the namefag(s) faggot.
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Fucking pathetic thread boys. On a fucking Sunday too.
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>>289856583
I did actually.
>>289856550
The faggot didn't even instigate this time.
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>>289856596
When the theads are bad, just see what they have in common. I'll give you a hint ctrl + f sakon, jeet, poopsuke, ramen, opink everytime, i guarantee one of these is mentioned when the threads are shit.
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>>289856649
>The faggot didn't even instigate this time.
You know we can all read the thread, right?
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>>289856662
To be fair, this thread literally had a chapter with sakon in it.
>>
Let it archive, you fucking insufferable jeet, bitchass necrobumper
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>>289856682
What instigated this thread was someone complaining about samefagging, not the faggot.
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>>289856683
Kek. True. Amusing that the character itself has been usurped by some random faggot on this website. I will never think of Sakon, the character from Naruto, when I see that name.
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woah, what happened in the few hours I was gone? kek.
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>>289845195
I don't think that is Sakon's ability; he is just being used to make the second body. The copying jutsu probably came from Zetsu since Kabuto studied him closely for the Yamato-powered enhancement.
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>>289856682
The thread was already too deep in the shitter by the time the faggot arrived.
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>>289856716
Can you explain why threads have been normal and peaceful for weeks but this particular shitshow coincidentally had the faggot announce himself?
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>>289856723
Sasukejeet had another meltie and is trying to gaslight again.
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>>289856745
Zetsu couldn't copy abilities.
>>289856719
>>289856683
The sperg can't even be funny when ranting about his gay crush.
Could've cropped the panel of Sakon turning into Jirobo with a filename like "Sakon getting a new trip".
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>>289856756
The last 2 threads were not peaceful.
Also >>289856751
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>>289856801
I don't think anyone actually likes Sakon desu

Both the character and OP.
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Wow this is so fucking organic man. Now let it archive, you fucking rascals.
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>>289856834
You do realize Sakon is the one who spams jeet/jeetsuke ect? Let me check if any of that was mentioned in the past 2 threads...
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>>289856582
>>289856057
>>289856229
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>>289856555
>if i don't get "the last word" it's impossible for a thread to have been made normally and it must have been made by my boogieman!
I guess you get extra mad when you lose "the last word" while you're working so hard to spam with your 4chan passes. You literally pay to try and attack people here and you still lose.

Seek help, !-Akemi. There is something wrong with you in a very literal sense. You can clearly see how no other threads
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>>289856843
What does that have to do with my post?
You don't need to like a character to meme about them.
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>>289849110
>This is so deeply homosexual

Kabuto and Orochimaru, gay? For Sasuke? You really think that?
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>He's spending the remainder of the thread literally screaming about Sakon.
Mindbroken behavior.



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