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The most exiting time of day has finally come.Already thank you for your work OP. I'll catch up as soon as possible
>>290174034people were joking about this last time but I didn't expect it to actually happen
>>290174138funny how a simple panel manage to create one of the most popular ships in saint seiya
>>290173599>this is cover artHave some self respect, Togashi.
>>290173599Shiryu is basically the only one that can pull of the single color cloth look.
>>290174138>Try to kill a woman>She tries to fuck you two volumes laterIt's that easy.
>Seiya x Shaina>Japanese x Italian>Ikki x Pandora>Japanese x GermanOh, no...
>>290174261Ikki pierced between her legs and now he has to take respi
>>290174138Why?
>>290174307*responsibility
>>290174101>>290174138Just slap a bitch once and you too can have this
>>290174397Alright, get the jokes out of your system
>>290174424In all fairness, they should've expected something like this to happen when they named her Pandora
>>290174369>Looks exactly like Saori>Same beckstoryKurumada was kinda tired at this point
>>290174284It's borderline comedy how all of them keep going to the grinder.
>>290174486But this backstory isn't like Saori's at all.
>>290174397Adolf did nothing wrong
>>290174482I'm going to be honest, this is entirely on them : why would you keep the box that contains the gods of the apocalypse in a small woodshed within walking distance? Can't you even put like a tutorial JRPG dungeon for intruders?
Pandora should've been in a very exclusive private school, dealing with an Eliza Reagan copy instead of ending up with all this bullshit
>>290174520>Spoiler princess that in actuality is the super old greek myth character
>>290174261>>290174307>>290174437she was his enemy was trying to kill him and his brother's consciousness.If she were a man he'd have killed her or at least mindraped him.But he spared her and was even gentle.The slap was nothing compared to the punches he'd have given a dude in her position.He was protective of her despite the situation.
>>290174611Adolfbros...
>>290174636>Yes hello little german girl with a very ironic name, we're killing your entire family, btw you'll need to go to Japan after this so good luckWhy are Greek Gods like this?
>>290174600Saori didn't have an actual blood related family, she didn't undo a seal, she didn't get royally screwed over by actual gods or any such thing. She's not even an actual mythological being, she just has the name.
>>290174753>We don't have time for fodder
>>290174753Did they all just launch behind Ikki despite the fact he hit them in front of him?
>>290174812kino panel
>>290173985>everyone gets wings nowYeah okay sure.
>>290174611At least this explains she literally calling Hades little brother but on the other hand it's funny that Hades is so cheap an actual baby somehow wasn't born.
>>290173932This whole fight lasted way longer than it had any right to. Bizarrely so. I guess Shiryu had to make up for not doing anything?
>>290174631Women are that easy?
Is the Final Edition good?Did they add anything new or is it just script changes for now?
>>290173625Nice cover
>>290174437Only if you're as manly as Ikki. Otherwise you go to jail
>>290175193This was inevitable.
>>290174482It was destiny. Not even gods can oppose to destiny
>>290174611>>290174636>>290174665Pandora's backstory is pretty fucked up. Kurumada said like two volumes ago that he loves horror stories. It shows
>>290174307>>290174586Wait, I thought Hades Castle was in China.
>>290175351>>290175379This is a way to bring exposition indeed.
>>290174813Show me 1 attack that hasn't launched the enemy behind the attacker.
>>290174284Kurumada is against the Japanese empire. That was a coincidence.
>>290175102>Thanathos? you mean THE thanathos?>Wait who's thanathos again?
>>290174284Also>Japanese x Chinese
>>290175524>Athena finally does something>is catched again off-screen and not even by Hadeskek
>>290175524I mean...Even if they could be, where exactly are they gonna get Zeus Lightning Bolts
>>290174284Kudos to Kurumada for giving the NPCs real armor instead of being generic skeletons
>>290175579Cosmo. Don't question it.
>>290175538>thanathosDo you have a lithp?
>>290175332>ChinaIt was the Spectre Tower with the 108 seals
>>290174461ENTER
>>290175610>Thanatos: ''I'm going to kill Seiya''>Hypnos: ''Don' do it, we musn't defile this place with blood''>Thanatos: ''I MUST kill Seiya even if it means defiling this place that has been clean since the age of myths''>Hypnos: ''Ok''
>>290173697HOLY Sameface
>>290175828>"Hypnos, are you saying I'll get rabies?"
>>290175639yes
>>290175828Yeah, and if you've seen Tom and Jerry you know the mouse can go even farther than that
>>290174996Cupid namedrop
>>290175914>inbefore Thanatos https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8r3IHDr7M2s
>>290176005>LA HERMANA
Gonna go have dinner
>>290176005>>290176005She cute
>>290176078Have good one, OP.
>>290174261Do you have any idea how popular SasuSaku is among women?
>>290176005about time it took us how many volumes to come back to seiyas original motivation?
>>290176005This took way too fucking long and it's not even being done justice.
>>290174785damn, they're all dead?pretty sure kanon and ikki were the ones that killed most of themunless the goldies some on the way to kill themselves at the wall
>>290175071seiya is scaring the hoes
>>290174138Avenge her for what against who now??
>>290175069The new chapters like the Aiolos flashback etc.
>>290176367Spoke too soon
>>290176217Alot of them were probably killed offscreen presumably by Hyoga, Shiryu and Kanon since theytook a really long time to get to the Wall of Lamentation. And maybe Ikki killed a whole bunch offscreen before saving Kanon.
>>290174586Ngl, all the specters being reincarnations sound lame as fuck.
>>290175524>not even Zeus' thunderboltsClearly, the god version of 'not even several gold saints.'
>>290175802They are twins
>>290174636How did she get to Japan?Also, did the god Duo info dump Pandora on Cosmo and shit?
>>290175524UH OH HE PUT ATHENA IN A JAR
>>290174812So, that bracelet was keeping Pandora alive?
>>290175524>Athena got the Poseidon treatment
>>290174188To be fair, he speared between her legs beforehand
>>290175379How...did he know that?
>>290174785Aldebaran bros....we helped
>>290176664NoThanatos just started mindfucking her as soon as she gave it away maybe it was the last straw for him, idk)
>>290175524It keeps happening.
>>290174482Weirdly enough the previous war prequels also had pandoras around
>>290175774That's not ridiculous at all.
>>290175524Well, shit. Here goes Athena's marvelous plan.>>290174955Rare sight of several women on just one panel in Saint Seiya.>>290174697Anime made this scene more romantic.
>>290176817And the sequel that involved HadesAnd whatever the fuck Dark Wing is
>>290176460i remember reading that dokho was spawncamping the rest of the specters
>>290174482PREPARE FOR TROUBLE, MAKE IT DOUBLE
>>290175943Why isn't Geki with the other bronzes?He can kill Grizzly beats.
>>290176523Thankfully for you, they're not
>>290176005>>290176864>>290176892ENTER
>>290175071>AIEE!!
>>290174812Ikki finally used his wings
>>290176909Our HEROES have assembled. Picrel is naturally among them.
>>290176892ENTER LA HERMANA .should have been marin
>>290174903I think her brother was stillborn
>>290176938>Athena's pony>literally
>>290176864>And whatever the fuck Dark Wing isAU
>>290176992I mean, isn't- isn't that the whole point of all those punishments in the Prisons?
>>290176849>Anime made this scene more romantic.By that point Ikki/Pandora was a popular ship so they had to please the shippers
>>290176909Man, Shaina is no longer playing hard-to-get boss woman, look at how happy she is on Seiya's behalf.
>>290176892So the reborn part wasn't about reincarnation?Ok.
>>290176864Pandora in the world of all Saint Seiya works is something that is both a name and a title, so you have Pandoras in every timeline that involves Hades.>>290176938>>290177003Jabubros... Don't look at picrel.
>>290176938>JOBu
>>290177047>Shaina, stop Solid Snaking your way through this conversation
>>290177031Yeah, it was one of the most popular heterosexual ships back then, so I'm glad the creators chose to pander to non-fujoshi audience for once.>>290177072Treat "rebirth" as "revival".
>>290177123More like Naked Snaking.
>>290177117SHUT THE HELL UP, AIEE
>>290177189ACTUALLY Jabu was defeated by Ikki.
>>290176005She came.>>290176153Seiya was always reminded of it, see his fight against Limnade Caça.
>>290177217Is this god omniscient?How does he know about Seika?
>>290177221Poor guy was passed around by everyone. Everyone rode the pony.
>>290174785https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3YmMNpbFjp0
>>290177075He even wears a chastity cage
>>290177335>across light yearsTHAT'S SHUN'S LINE!
>>0290177335>Then why didn't you do that when Sisyphus chained you?>Shut up!
>>290177260He is the god of death, he probably knows everybody who is alive
>>290177437Meant to quote myself>>290177335 here
>>290177465Kiki should have been given a cloth at this point, he is well above the silver saints
>>290177437>Miss SisWow wow, calm down there Shaina, you and Seiya aren't married yet.
>>290177510seiya already saw her face they are married since he left greece
>>290177465>>290177483>Kiki has just tanked a god's death ball of doom attackKEK>>290177484Apparently he was still too young and, well, the situation was too dire to have him being granted a Cloth. Saint Mariya elaborates on it btw. You can read it if you wanna learn more about Kiki.
>>290174812RIP
>>290177547Well, see the gold saints ages...
>>290177510It's Kiki who said it.>>290174812RIP pretty lady.
Persona 4 traced this
>>290177575 i was making a joke
>>290177585Thanatos was 1 and 3
>>290177484well its heavily assumed that hes gonna be the next aries saint so.....
>>290177572Kiki was 8 years old, so pretty young anyway. And Gold Saints were different cases, as it's been known that a person would become a Gold Saint since the moment they were born.
>>290177613>>290177644Oh no, now Shaina has to either kill or marry everyone here!How terrible!
>>290177644>the jobber squad is getting a full pageSurely they wont get mashed into paste
>>290177614>God of death launches an instant death blast and people take it for someone else in sucessionThat's what happens right before Izanagi evolves in P4
>>290177644I feel so SAFE!
>>290177679Ah, my apologies. You know ball.
>>290177587I see.>>290177616Yeah, he was the natural heir to Aries. He became one in Omega, Episode G Assassin and Saint Mariya.>>290177644I feel safe now. OUR HEROES will protect the world.
>>290177644My heroes can tank a God's blow so they are above Goldies now.
>>290177613Damn, she really is pretty.
>>290177743>Shaka 2.0
>>290177086I now remember that the CG show has aioria taking seika and her having cosmos, i wonder if they were going to just make marin and seika the same person but since it's in development hell or cancelled we will never know>>290177465TANKED IT>>290177510not like he has any other choice, he has to take responsibility after seeing her face
>>290177744Kiki can do it without an armor, solo. What a powerhouse.
>>290177644Based. They would wreck Thanatos if he was within grappling distance.
>>290177679Jobbers unite!
>>290177679by this point the manga was hitting below the 10th place btw
>>290177765Shaina is very pretty, agreed.
>>290177743>Golds are a thousands of times stronger than every Silver and Bronze saint on average>A couple of Bronze, Silver knights and a child can stop a god's attackAioria was full of shit.
>>290177644OUR HEROESASSEMBLED
>>290177810And unironically, those panels with Thanatos shit looked great.
>>290177810But it has so much soul. Are the japanese... soulless?
>>290177810Next volume is the last one
>>290177123oh, so saori did keep her promise to seiya about searching for his sister in the background? i thought she didnt give a shit because no one said anything
>>290177844Well... Geki fought bears
>>290177803There it is.
>>290177510>>290177538>>290177786Mihosisters...
>>290177822I was thinking to myself ''Wow, that's a very feminine Shun even for Seiya standards'' until I read your post.
>>290177901She only looked in her neighborhood considering Marin found her by herself in like a month.
>>290177644MY HEROES and the Hydra guy
>>290177936
>>290177943She was looking for her since sanctuary, and people believed that seika was still in Japan
>>290177803Love this move
>>290177984>She was looking for her since sanctuarySo like a month,>people believed that seika was still in JapanDamn, that private eye made a fortune out of sitting his ass in his house.
>>290177939RE ENTER
>>290177877it was early 90s WJS go figure
>>290178035Kurumada finally got tired of drawing uppercuts and forgot what the Shoryuha looks like
>>290177939>another SISSY FAGGOT KNIGHT had squirmed in heredamn, no need to be so harsh thanatos
>>290178035Shiryu, that's a Kamehameha.
i dont care about the power levels seiya and co have been crawling on the ground this entire arc now just give them a solid win against someone that isnt a jobber
>>290178052It Saint Seiya, a given attack can be portrayed up to 5 ways.
>>290178048It is likely because the series was set to end.The rankings aren't 100% votes.
>>290178157The art got more intense now
>>290177023>Not even that is enough.>I need...>to give you a chance to pull a complete reversal and defeat me.
>>290178186Absolute zero is the coldest possible temperature, anything below it hits infinite temperature instead Isaac hit it in a spin-off
>>290178204FUUUUUAAAAARRRRRK
>>290178204What can Thanatos do? Kill him?
>>290178262>Ophee: nobody who died ever came back to life.>Shiryu and Ikki:...
>>290178204MY HERO
>>290177786The live action movie had Seika abducted too, and said to be one of the various kids Kido harvested and abandoned, leaving it open whether or not she was Marin.
>>290178305Well, it is his boss who is the god of dead, they can hold a grudge against thanatos for their death.
>>290178204FUAAAAAAAAAAARK!
>>290178305Is this the first time Ikki explicitly called himself an atheist? I know he said he didn't believe in the gods, but this seems like a first.
>>290177822>>290177936What a fucking downgrade.
>>290178431What...?
>>290178305>What?Wait until Thanatos finds out Hyoga is Christian.
>>290177810This volume is really good though.
>>290178204*cues to ikki's theme*https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p15dvFFBDnM
>>290178305oda TRACED this
>>290178447sorry shaina but the mask stays on during sex
>>290178495I get it. If you signed up for Seiya and Co. storming the underworld, then a bunch of that got skipped, then the whole Shun thing, by this point, you're probably kind of done with it if you're following it from week to week. Being able to binge it helps a lot.
>>290178556Rude.
>>290178305Ikki is a based free thinker???
>>290178580shaina must take responsability for giving me a masked women fetish
>>290178589WHAT
>>290178495Yeah, it is even better if you are aware that the manga had to be sped up by this point and reach the conclusion soon. Fuck, the final bit had to appear in the volume release, because the magazine axed it before the climax.
>>290178186>FOOLS!!But Shiryu didn't use Excalibur yet.
>>290178420>>290178439It no longer surprises me, but kind of funny it confirms part of the attacks are visions.
Shina the hottest
>>290178589time for a proper redemption, nice to see him here
>>290178589ENTERFUARKING FUAAAARK THE SEA GOD
>>290177883sadly....
>>290178305>The people I've killed have no right to be mad at me.
>>290178601Turns out poseidon wasn't lying when he said that he could have freed himself from Athena's seal.
>>290178619The ending was published in another magazine first
>>290178675I think it's more that Athena's seals ARE crap.
>>290178619What even replaced it?
>>290178178hades chapter was the beginning of kurumada's peak check Bt´x for the full peak
>>290178447You heard me. Give me manga Shaina, the hot one.
>>290178741I don't remember, but it was pretty dynamic period in the magazine.
>>290178774No. But here, enjoy masked Shaina mommy from Omega.
>>290178828ENTER THE NEXT GENERATION OF GOLD SAINTS
>>290178760Wait, so Hyoga actually lost his eye? I always thought Isaac cut his eyelid from their conversation.
>>290178802>Leo IkkiWhy?
>>290178828>>290178836Ikki seems like a downgrade if he loses the immortality meme.
>>290178749I second that.
>>290178828Should've happened after the sanctuary arc
>>290178854He was born under Leo sign, kek.>>290178858Arguably Gold Cloth is inferior for him. It's durable, but lacks autorepair capabilities.
>>290178854Because he was born on August 15th
>>290178854His Zodiac sign is Leo.
>>290178828Surely this will turn the tide of the battle!
>>290178896>augusth 15th>checks dateso basically today
Okada solved it by just having the Leo Cloth gain the properties of the Phoenix Cloth in G Assassin
>>290178909Ah, shit, you're rightHappy birthday, Ikki
>>290178910>>290178930Apollo has nothing to say about this?
>>290178909Happy Birthday, Ikki.
Happy B day Ikki.THE aura Farmer of all time.
>>290178909Funny coincidence.
>>290178930Apologize to Athena's seals.
Happy Birthday, Ikki!
well anons today is phoenix ikki birthday say something nice to him
>>290178814I like her manga version more.>>290178774Here you go.
>>290179029My HERO
>>290179025so we could have gotten a Zeus arc?>>290179029best character in the series by a wide margin
>>290178695Was it? I think it was a cliffhanger chapter teasing what's about to happen, and that it was continued in the volume release.>>290179029Happy birthday.
>>290179039Is Thanato's forehead star related to the ''Yours Ever'' pendant?
>>290179029Edgelords and bullied kids love him the most, btw.
Done for todayCome back tomorrow to see what our heroes do now that they're out of Cloths
>>290179058https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3FJgIZVW4g
>>290178589AN UNEXPECTED HERO!!!>>290178828they are so co- >>290179058 nevermind>>290179029he is the best of the group and a good brother
>>290179051
>>290179077Kind of yes.>>290179101Thank you for another day of exciting storytime.
Was Kurumada planing a Zeus arc after Hades or It is just a myth?
>>290179096so basically everybody (including me)
>>290179025But they did help against Poseidon.>>290179058Dang, that was all for naught.>>290179101Thanks OP!
>>290179101Thank you, Op!
>>290178749I found the art of his following series (silent knight sho) pretty uninspired.But you are right about Bt'x being more dynamic
>>290179069that was the plan but toei ruined it after movie 5 failure>>290179119the zeus arc has already begun dude
>>290179119Yes, there were plans to have Zeus arc after Hades arc and then something that would feature Chronos as the final villain. Later it got modified and we were to get an anime anime sequel (Tenkai-hen trilogy), but that didn't happen in the end. We can only wonder how many of old ideas from various periods will be used in the currently serialized Saint Seiya manga.
>>290178854Shun and Ikki weren't fit for it
>>290179029Strongest Knight from a technical perspective and overall the coolest.
>>290179161Silent Knight Sho was basically a Saint Seiya recycled and made anew with different premise. Not the best work of Kurumada, but it's a pity it got canceled. It had its cool moments and I liked those designs.
>>290178968He doesn't seem to care for humanity
>>290179198Seiya, Shiryu and Hyoga were meant to inherit their master's cloths. Why didn't Shun get his master's cloth? Ikki should've gotten Shaka's Virgo cloth.
>>290179161well its no secret that kurumada didnt wanted to make silent knight sho, moslty because the higher ups wanted a saint seiya 2.0
>>290179238Looks like Guyver..
>>290179275I can see it turning out this way.
>>290179178>We can only wonder how many of old ideas from various periods will be used in the currently serialized Saint Seiya manga. Next Dimension Gemini is both a twin and a second personality
>>290179268Shun's master was a downgrade
>>290179171>the zeus arc has already begunKurumada came back to SS?
>>290179058Goldbros, how will we ever recover?
btw.. fun fact a samurai shodown manga made by kurumada was planned at some point but cancelled during production
>>290179380The next dimension sequel started a while ago, it is currently in a hiatus until winter.
>>290179380since 2006
>>290179171I mean at the time of release
>>290179425>>290179436I hope someone storytimes that too.
>>290179411Was it before silent knight? Because it would explain pitan>>290179445Zeus, Poseidon and Hades were named way back during sanctuary.And there were titans mentions here and there.
>>290179380>>the zeus arc has already begunstop lying
>>290179372Considering the feats of the main cast with their respective constelation's cloths, ALL of the gold cloths would be a downgrade. I don't expect Saiya to throw a Pegasus Meteor Punch in Sagittarius cloth. Only the Libra cloth seems like a genuine upgrade since Roshi uses the same moves plus the Libra weapons.
>>290179350Anon, it happened years ago and in general had nothing much to do with the Zeus arc. Not in other way than being just a part of the bridge that was supposedly leading to it (which it eventually did).>>290179380Yeah, many years ago. In 2006 if we only count manga, and in 2002 if we count anime and him being involved in the production process in a smaller or bigger way.
>>290179473Some neophytes think that Heaven arc is Zeus arc, so they tend to put under the label of "Zeus arc" literally anything.
>>290179484Kurumada used both of his Gemini ideas for it.
>>290179503We have Heaven and Elysium in the same universe?
>>290179534Heaven is the mount Olympus
>>290179462nope it was after kurumada left shueshia>>290179445oh, then yes he already had the zeus arc in mind back in the 90s
>>290177924Miho made a cameo in the OVAs. I guess that's better than nothing
>>290179238It's Tokyo Mew Mew made by a sociopath. I love it
>>290179534Heaven is the realm of Olympian Gods.>>290179505I'm not saying it wasn't one of earlier ideas, but it didn't have to do much with the arc progression by itself.>>290179590Mihobros...
>>290179411Kurumada would have so much fun with Shiro Amakusa and Jeanne D'Arc. They fit with his sensibilities
>>290179692I wouldn't call him a sociopath, the sociopaths were the villains
>>290179268Going by this logic.Seiya and Shun would inherit silver cloths while Ikki would have no other cloth to inherit.
>>290179711Don't feel bad for Miho. She got her own show
>>290179719I call Kurumada a sociopath. That's why I love him so much. He's in the middle point between modern authors and the generation of authors dealing with their war traumas
>>290179238There was an anime staff member on Twitter years ago that talked about how he'd wanted to adapt Silent Knight Sho and even do more story beyond the "NEVER END" but it never happened.I'd wonder how that'd even work.
>>290179692Calling Kurumada a sociopath, huh? Let me guess, you like TLC a lot, don't you?
>>290179074Yeah, the actual finale was published in Jump V and then compiled into the tankobon.
>>290179821Interesting. I haven't heard that. I think that adapting what was released on the manga format and going beyond it in the anime, with Kurumada helping with the script, could've been an interesting way to make this series more popular and, more importantly, finished.
>>290179711>I'm not saying it wasn't one of earlier ideas, but it didn't have to do much with the arc progression by itself.Yes, but I was using it as an example of him reusing scrapped ideas >>290179821They were going to not!sanctuary when it ended.And apparently Sho had some secret bloodline.
>>290179821If only I was a multimillionaire I'd fund a Silent Knight Sho adaptation/sequel myself but real life millionaires only invest on pedo islands
>>290179868Yeah, wish I could remember the name of the Twitter. He'd done some genga-like sketches of Sho in an Araki-esque style.
>>290179851Still, it was a fucking disrespectful way of concluding a series that sold really well in the past.
>>290179885Ah definitely, many of those ideas made it to the sequel manga. Like unused Tenkai-hen movie stuff appearing in Next Dimension, albeit in modified way, or flowery promise becoming a thing at some point. I expect more of those ideas return in Tenkai-hen. The question is: how much of the old arc progression concept will survive. Hades - > Zeus got modified into Hades -> Heaven -> Zeus, and right now we have Hades -> Next Dimension -> Heaven.
>>290179914Oh shit, I wanna see those sketches now. Sounds good.
>>290174955>>290179080
>>290175330>>290179101
>>290179918Shueisha never liked Kurumada. Too rebellious for a Japanese corporation.
>>290180035>>290180050
>>290180059Yeah.
>>290180082It's not surprising Kurumada has a very bleak view of the manga industry. See Indigo Period
>>290177803Epic.
Speaking of recycled ideas and stuff, I do wonder if he had the whole Ophiuchus Gold Saint in mind even this far back. Because Shaina stays surprisingly relevant throughout the manga for a person Seiya defeats all the way back in chapter one.
>>290179986Next dimension was overture 2.0, the countryside structure is poseidon >>> Hades >>> Next Dimension >>> Heaven/Zeus.The real question is, for how long until the plot actually starts.
>>290180121I've read it. I wouldn't call it a bleak view. Just sincere and rebellious in a way if we take a look at Japanese corporate standards.
For a God of Death, Thanatos really fucking sucks at killing people.
>>290180035>>290180050>>290180067Those clothes are beautiful, especially considering Kurumada was almost dying at the time. Probably he was giving all he had back then. That's a very Japanese reaction
>>290179101>now that they're out of Clothsat least shiryu should be fine
>>290174307>I'm sure you would have escaped in time without my help.Is there anything Ikki can't do? (Not complaining, just in case)
>>290180237Ikki is the rare likable Gary Stu. Itachi wish he was even 1/10 as likable as Ikki
>>290180135I think it is a bit of luck and planning.Shaina is the snake to Marin's bird, which is a common symbolism.Even when I first watched overture, I thought the focus she gained was odd, so I think they had some plans.https://youtube.com/watch?v=drZhXuBZXNQ&pp=ygUYU2FpbnQgU2VpeWEgYXBvbGxvIHB1YmNo0gcJCf4LAYcqIYzv
>>290176005I know it doesn't make sense timeline-wise... but a part of me (the little kid still in my heart) still wishes Marin would have been the sister.
>>290180365Apparently Marin was going to be the sister in the live action and the CG show but neither will continue and confirm it
>>290178305I wonder what the exact dialogue in Japanese was.
>>290178802>>290179198>>290179268I can't help but wonder how far ahead Kurumada planned the whole "You can only wear the Gold Cloth that matches your Zodiac sign" rule before this moment, even taking into account Shiryu donning the Capricorn Cloth (but that could be justified as Shura commanding the Cloth to protect him).Seiya is Sagittarius because the whole manga has depicted him as the closest to inheriting Aioros' will, while Hyoga and Shiryu got their masters' Cloths. Meanwhile, Shun and Ikki indeed make no real sense outside the rule. Ikki should have gotten Virgo. Shun has a harder time because he lacks a true connection with any Gold Saint outside of Aphrodite, who is an enemy.In the case of the former three, was it a fluke that he matched their Zodiac signs to their counterparts? Was it already planned this far?
>>290179058In a way, this was a bold move. This was the scene that was supposed to leave us on the edge of our seats, the moment we've been waiting for since we learned there are twelve Gold Cloths: the Bronze Five finally donning their Gold Cloths (even if we can argue against the designated ones for Ikki and Shun). So, having them destroyed just a few pages in really brings out the severity of the situation.
>>290179101Finally after following basically the entire storytime from the archives right before the volumes thread get 404'd I have finally caught up.I have to say now that I have read it I will say that gold wank is 100% deserved, because the hades sanctuary raid with mu as the protag was by far the best arc and the gold saints were for the most part the coolest villains and characters barring based Ikki ofcourse.
>>290174138Saint Seiya who? It's all about Phoenix Ikki in this household Ikki is so goddamn cool!
>>290180135>spoilerWas the whole topic of the 13th Zodiac Sign even a thing back in the 80s? I think he came up with the plot after Hades finished.
>>290180289>Itachi wish he was even 1/10 as likable as IkkiIkki never did a genocide, isn't giving out sermons, only really has 3 powers and we actually got to see his backstory.
>>290180605With Hyoga, you also have to remember that Milo was originally his mentor.>>290180687Yes, from what I saw, since the 70s
>>290175776Hypnos is a pushover
>>290174397a german family with a dog named Adolf, huh?they must've been big fans of German composer and virtuoso pianist Adolf von Henselt
>>290180779>With Hyoga, you also have to remember that Milo was originally his mentor.You are absolutely right. Maybe we could say giving them those Zodiac signs before the rule was indeed a fluke (or at least for Seiya and Shiryu, because he thought it would be cool for them to match their counterparts).
>>290174586This is not the first time I've read the manga, but I still can't understand how the Specters work. They are not undead like the Sapuri Gold Saints, correct? Could someone give me a QRD on that?
>>290178910>To be more precise he introduced a new type of cloth called "Authentic/Shin Cloth" (never used again) which is a fusion of the two constellations Phoenix+Leo
>>290178910>>290180905Funnily enough, this makes it a griphon cloth.
>>290179029Ikki is so awesome no other aloof ally in Shonen Manga has been able to match him.Happy Birthday, my favourite Saint!
>>290178910Ikki should have inherited the Scorpio cloth since he has the death/resurrection theme
>>290174812I like the idea behind Pandora's redemption, and I understand the need to give Ikki a way to travel safely to Elysium, but it definitely could've been done better. it comes out of nowhere and then she's dead in the same chapter
>>290180968>Minos screaming in the background
>>290174101>>290174138Wait, what the fuck? She actually fell for him! LMAO
>>290181099But, can you honestly blame her?
>>290174307Athena's cosmo didn't help him like it did the Golds, Pandora helped him instead. I couldn't say I'm surprised.
>>290174332That swan's neck is freakishly long.
>>290181047>it comes out of nowhereIt didn't come out of nowhere.It came when she came.
>>290181099to be fair shes surrounded by a bunch of fags and yes-mans that doesnt even defies her, even radamanthys was scared of her
>>290176600>"they're gods I don't have to explain shit"
>>290174812Wings bargain sale!
>>290175102Nigga, I thought you lived in Greece for years.
>>290181247Funnily enough, Ikki actually had wings since V1, they are just always folded on his back.
>>290177644Don't worry Geki and Ban are here.
>>290177792Kiki survived the Poseidon arc.
>>290175524I expect nothing less from her.>these urns cannot be destroyed even by Zeus' lightning boltsThat's a bold statement.
>>290178582He always said that.
>>290181291He also knows a guy called Aphrodite who is a saint, it's a valid question
>>290175774>Pegasus, the mythical creature famously known as a horse with wings, sprouted a pair of wings! Ridiculous!Nigga...
>>290176005Sure, I guess.
>>290178854Should've been Ikki getting Virgo and Shun getting Pisces I guess, but those weren't their signs.
>>290178968He only cares about humans not challenging gods.
>>290179058Well so much for that.
>>290179080>>290179101>>290180067Fuckers are wearing dresses not cloths.>>290179453Maybe OP will be based and does it when this one ends.
>>290177465>>290177483Kiki tanking a god's attack.
>>290177644Shit, I can't find my Ikki's reaction pic, the one that said "my heroes."
>>290178845Next Dimension clarifies it was just a grazed eyelid, though it seems to be retcon since there were some Jump illustrations of Hyoga with a missing eye.
>>290177465>>290177483Frankly it would have been better if Thanatos' attack was making the target ill instead of turning out to be invisible fireballs, but the other characters needed something to block.
>>290177844I bet it's mostly Kiki and Geki.
>>290177644Do you think Geki could smash watermelons between his ass cheeks?
>>290178035KAMEHAMEHA!
>>290181565the thing is i highly doubt theres either a fan translation or official translation for next dimension or any other spin off, MAYBE the lost canvas might have one but who knows
>>290178204He's constantly ENTERing, it's impressive.
>>290178589HUUUH?
>>290181671At least Mangadex has the complete series (b/w version)
>>290178968You think Artemis is actually happy about this?
>>290181671Lost Canvas had one because I read it several years ago but that's not Next Dimension.>>290181742Based
>>290179101Thanks.
It's funny how being the grandaddy of many shonen tropes Saint Seiya itself has so many instances of "EL HERMANO" o "EL GRANDE PADRE".
>>290181565>Fuckers are wearing dresses not clothsThey are robes!
>>290178305>tips bronze headpiece
>>290181742>looks it up>it has rerise of poseidonNICE
>>290177993He knows that Pandora betrayed them and that Seika is in Athens, but not where the bronzes are? Odd omniscience
>>290154286In reality I think he's aligning eveyrthing in a way that makes the sun to stay permanently blocked.
>>290178186You can't go below absolute zero...
>>290182211I guess he didn't expect them to intervene.
>>290182255Why not?
>>290178375>You're the first person to seriously irk meSo he wasn't seriously irked when he wanted to quarter Seiya and kill his sister
>>290182308yeah that was just some typical god fun
>bump limit already Fuck
>>290179101Thank you OP>>290179029Happy birthday to the most badass bronze
>>290182308he's the god of death, it's kind of his job
>>290179029HERO
>>290176140Why did it place first in that recent "worst ship" poll then?
>>290175607But I like generic skeletons!
>>290174307IS THERE ANYONE WHO CAN EVEN REMOTELY CONTROL OUR BOY IKKI
>>290182594Athena unironically.
>>290174813MOOOOOOMENTUM
>>290177585We're gonna need a list of every creatuve that's traced SS come final storytime
