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>>32292620
All the good looking women who would make great wives and mothers are taken in high school and college the latest. Whatever remains is taken shortly after they enter the workforce. There exist very few good looking (7 and above) women that are single and have a good heart, are modest, raised in a decent family, soft spoken and pretty. The window of opportunity when they are single is very very narrow. These are the 2% of women, the highest stock of females this wonderful creation can offer. If you don't frequent their circles or the events they attend you have no chance of meeting them. Women also don't go anywhere alone, so whatever hobbies women have or events they attend it is done with their husband or boyfriend and if they are single with their groups of friends.

tldr; there simply aren't enough single good looking young white women to go around for everybody, they are rare and exist mostly in very niche places where men without social circles (loners) can't get in to

Where do I find women irl to date and eventually marry?
We have no hinge here (and I dont even know how good that app is)

any advice is appreciated >>32292505

I just can't seem to decide which way I wanna go

>>32292642
Forgot to add, I moved to a new city and dont know anyone other than my new coworkers (all men)

>texting my ex on her birthday in December, would be 5 months since I initiated no contact

Yay or nay?

>>32292636
I agree, I'd say that once you hit 25, if you are a man looking for genuine love and a stable relationship it seems like it becomes increasingly more difficult to find marriage material women.
Everyone I know is divided into 2 camps.

1. people who are married/engaged/in long term relationships by 25

2. people who've fallen victim to hookup culture, nightlife, dating app environment and other issues plaguing dating right now and will probably end up settling or single for life.

As a man, you have a slight time advantage because you can date younger women, but imo by 25 you should be in something serious. It's just the ideal position to be in.
I think locking down a good woman by that age will allow you to focus more on building a solid life and career together, instead of doing that + the stress and time wasted courting and going on dates with tons of women to find the one.

Based on my experience it seems like one of the only ways out at 25+ is to get really lucky or significantly increase your status, looks and finances which will hopefully put you in a position to attract and create the kind of social circle that will allow you to meet more women and thus find decent or even high quality women.

>>32292654
nay
move on

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What should he have done differently?

>>32292741
impossible to know without context. if he had zero chemistry with her, asking for the date via text was a coward maneuver and gave her the ick

>>32292741
wait for the project to be done and then ask her out with the excuse of celebrating the work being over
if she rejects you've been kind for inviting her and you don't have to interact with the bitch anymore

>>32292741
>>32292751
This is the best answer. Considering she mentioned it being one day after talking to him, she likely thinks he asked way too soon (on top of anything else that would have turned her off). This gives time to build rapport, doesn't make the group project awkward in the event that she rejects him or the date goes south, and also gives a legitimate reason for the two hanging out.
Also it's generally better to ask people out in person, not through text. That's pussy shit.

>>32292856
yeah women give you attraction bonus points the more difficult it is to ask them out. it's a demonstration of social status

>>32292741
be a chad

>>32292744
>>32292751
>>32292856
low IQ cope

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Bros, how the actual fuck do I meet women. I met my first real gf in college and my latest ex through tinder. We were together for 4 years now I'm 28 and alone. I feel like I wasted the best years of my life on that girl.
I downloaded tinder, hinge and some other dating apps and it never led to anything good. Now I want to meet someone truly special the old fashioned way, here are a few of my ideas :
- Language cafes
- Acting in small indie movies
-Asking buddies with gfs
-Art galeries

I tried those a little but it never led to anything. Should I keep trying or is there another way to meet someone ? My job wont do the trick. Again, how the FUCK do normies meet their wives ?

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>be me
>uber chad
>6'2
>fit and buff
>above average in every aspect
>7/10
>got money
>got intellect
>got the looks
>match a cute boderline chick on tinder
>she is a 5/10
>go on 3 dates
>follow the general adivce of dating dynamics
>first date a walk in the park
>second date something exciting and already holding her in my arms
>she is visibly excited and attracted to me
>third date something intimate to escalate (cinema)
>she pulls away when i try to hold her hand
>i leave early because she keeps pulling away and i feel stupid
>she texts me "i like you a lot but i am no good for you. also i was way too scared"
>blocked me

and that was it. this stupid bitch will never find someone like me ever again. i can't believe it...no matter how much of a chad you are, and even if you did everything right, rejection can't be avoided, even from a 5/10 who should be happy that a chad wanted to fuck her

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>>32292620
I went on a “date” with a girl and I honesty don’t know if she likes me or is just being nice. Basically me and her were the only people without partners in our college class last Friday, so we had to work together on a project. She told me to put my number in her phone btw, but for the purpose of meeting up.When we talked I honesty couldn’t tell what she thought of me, she was really nice and asked me questions about myself, always playing around with her hair and making a lot of eye contact with me and laughing, but at the end of our study, she didn’t ask me anything in terms of wanting to meet me out of college, just that we’ll see each other on Wednesday. Then there’s pic related, so I honesty don’t know if I’m just mistaking niceness with her liking me and I don’t want to embarrass myself and ask her out

>>32293719
stop wondering and thinking...make a move and find out...she is into you

>>32293681
>uber chad
>only 7/10
lol ok

>>32293745
7/10 is still pretty above average, plus 6’2 is a good height

>>32293745
my face is a 7, my body is easily a 9, huge dick too...this chick got way too nervous being intimate with me and i triggered her borderline induced fear for a reason...this was a chick that fucked around on tinder several times, so she said, but with me she got cold feet...

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>girl at work
>talks to everyone but me
>if I'm talking to someone she talks too she'll wait until I leave before talking to the other person
>tell coworker I've always wanted to try a drink from the fridge, catch her looking in my direction through the reflection on the glass
>think I've caught her staring at me multiple times before but since she wears a hat can't tell if I'm imagining it
>once slams a bag of cookies near my face and coldly says "here's your cookies" and walks off
>whenever I say goodbye as I leave she says bye in a low pitched voice
>open back door for her, she's looking down to the corner refusing to make eye contact, has a small smirk on her face and says thanks
Thoughts?

>>32293681
i feel you man, i am a 6'4" tera chad, fit with great face and genetics, a good job, 2 years of NoFap, and i have this cute girl in class who keeps giving me IOIs such as looking at me and smiling at me, but when I tried to build rapport, I followed general advice such as holding frame, not quitting, and deflecting shit tests, but after a while she told me to fuck off. now her friends say that i'm a creep. i guess this is what happens when you seem too good to be true

>>32293845
I swear you asked this like 2 weeks ago or something

>>32293878
New developments have been made since that time, hence the new info. Also, I overthink, a lot.

>>32293885
this bitch hates you and is playing mindgames , dont ask why or specifics , stop the people pleaser inside of you from trying to get everyone on your side. That's what dickheads like this thrive on - they sense your people pleasing nature and string you along.

The day you actually go cold turkey on her and ignore , is the day she'll get extra infuriated or extra clingy. I can tell you are young because you are still entertaining behavior like this but you have to FUCKING STOP.

>>32293874
Hahahaha fuck you... Good roast though

>>32293845

bro i think she hates you

you mentioned she was "looking in your direction" jfl. honestly if you think there's even the slightest chance that she's looking at you, you have a very distorted view of women and people in general. kek

there's also stuff missing from your story and unexplainable stuff which indicates a lack of social skills, because, what you're not telling us is what you're not noticing, idk if that makes sense.

its ok. i dont blame you. sometimes overthinking can blind you. keep it simple and focus on social skills. learn slowly and pay attention. keep a low profile at work so that you don't get fired by being a giga sperg and just be polite.

if this girl escalates this, you can secretly record and then sue in some jurisdictions.

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>>32293845

If you want her give her more attention. Be confident in your moves and words.

>>32293905
>Good roast though
kek thanks

>>32293909
>>32293885

>that she's looking at you
meant to say "that she's interested in you"

I'm talking to a girl on discord.
She says she has a bf.
But still talks to me.
She is very interested in me.

How do I steal her from her bf?
They don't even live in the same state.

She knows I'm a lonely incel.

How do you make a woman obsessed with you?
My last two relationships failed and felt like they were only in it as I was providing something for them.
What exactly do I do to be the bum ass dude that she can't forget about?

>>32293955
Were you good to your girlfriends? Do all the nice guy stuff? Or do you put your foot down and get into arguments and spike their emotions by making them think you're cheating or that you'll leave them?
Seems like for a lot of women in this age if you're neglectful they'll obsess over you.

>>32293924
>She knows I'm a lonely incel.

your first mistake , and she pities you btw

And I pity the fool that uses discord for socializing.

>>32293987
>Seems like for a lot of women in this age if you're neglectful they'll obsess over you.
I feel that too but I think it's retarded.
Like if we are exclusive then I'm not out there trying to fuck around with other chicks or ignore my own partner.
If I constantly trauma bonding her to me then how the fuck are we gonna have a good relationship down the line?

How come some guys can become friends with women easily but when I try to do it they immediately get awkward and start acting weird? A lot of times I feel like they think I have ulterior motives or something, but most of the time I'm genuinely just trying to talk and have simple conversations to pass the time. And it's always the most unattractive dudes who can actually maintain friendships with women, and the few women I have had friendships with, they usually end up developing feelings for me which leads to things taking a different turn, thus ruining the friendship. And no I'm not humble bragging, sometimes I just want to talk to women without any sort of pretense.

>>32293899
I'm not a people pleaser at all, but yeah I do get the sense she hates me, no idea why though, I guess a part of me wishes she would like me because she's actually really attractive, pisses me off that I didn't make a move when I had the chance and now I'm stuck in this situation.
>>32293909
I don't have problems with social skills, it's just that when I first started working here I was going through a rough patch due to some girl I had stopped talking to at the time as well as left over stress from my previous job, and didn't talk to anyone for a good while, eventually I got over it and went back to being extroverted and talking to everyone, she's literally the only I don't talk too.

>>32294150
>I don't have problems with social skills

you're not going to improve with that attitude bro

your story sounds giga sperg. we can read between lines and notice what you don't say.

>>32294150
>went back to being extroverted and talking to everyone
wow you're a social butterfly kek

>>32293989
this isnt 2017 anymore even turbo sex having normalfags use discord now dude get with the times.

>>32294199
>this isnt 2017 anymore even turbo sex having normalfags use discord
they did?

>>32294202
they do everyone uses discord in 2024.. my turbo normalfag friends who work as doctors in IT and as accountants making six figs + use it daily.

>>32294207
kek i thought it was for trannies

>>32294215
probably was but its super mainstream now since there really is just no alternative lol. No free video voice chat exists that is as good as discord desu it just works and is super easy to set up i really like it. Keep in touch with all my old friends from college/high school and stuff its nice

>>32294172
Okay but I genuinely don't, I have any problems talking with people, I talk with everyone else just fine, it's only with that girl that I somehow have issues with for whatever reason. She used to have her best friend working there alongside with her, I talked to her just fine and she was even flirting with me, but whenever the other girl saw us talking together she would continue walking back and forth waiting for me to leave so she can finally talk to her friend again. But in any case, if it seems likely that she hates me I'll just try to drop the whole thing and move on, I'm only torturing myself mentally by continuing to ponder over this issue.

>>32292642
This been a problem since the 2020 lockdowns, lot of places I went to for socializing in general shut down and never re-opened. I don't know where to meet women IRL now and approaching them in places like the gym isn't gonna land well, I never had luck dating girls online all my relationships started IRL.

>>32294246

ok bro maybe i misunderstood. maybe you're just blinded by overthinking and that's why the story sounded giga sperg

yea just forget about it

How the fuck do I meet people as a 32 year old man? All my friends are married, I work remote and my coworkers are old men. Do I just kill myself like seriously it feels super fucking over

Ive gone on many hinge dates and I get matches, even dates but then it amounts to nothing and they just disappear

>>32294665
dating is chad only

meet guys on meetup events or some shit that promotes talking to people and then have them introduce you to women. dont worry if its an all male hobby, they will introduce you to women once you make friends. there are plenty of women who can only be met through friends because they're not on dating apps or bars and they are better

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Can two dominant personalities date one another? I'm naturally dominant, and every single dominant girl I've met has always led to us butting heads on multiple occasions.

>>32294727
yeah, guess i just have to find something that would fit the criteria for meeting other dudes

It genuinely pisses me off when I see attractive women talking to unattractive men for the sole purpose of recruiting more simps, not that she sees those guys as potential dating prospects, but rather, just another ugly bastard she can milk for attention whenever she fancies it.

>>32294776
Men are actually a bit to blame for this thanks to original simps giving rise to shit like OnlyFans, to many pussywhipped men out there simping now all women that are attractive take advantage of it which to a degree I can't blame them some make good money because of these retards.

>>32294809
I blame the lack of strong male figures in a lot of mens lives growing up, it doesn't help that most of these guys were raised by single mothers or pussy whipped beta males.

>>32293989
Yeah ur right
Apparently she's talking to him on a discord call while texting me on discord.

What should I do?

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>How to Get Women
Just be tall and low body fat.

>>32293681
>>32293874
What did I tell you fuckers?
>>32292452
You gotta go for her pussy the actual Chad way not this walk on a park date beta shit. She was likely turned off and repulsed by you which is exactly why she pulled away. The more you spend with a woman without sex the more she will hate you. First date should always be a drink and then back to your place to fuck, no exceptions

I'm a nerdy white dude in my late 20's. I like shit like vtubers, anime, videogames, and cosplaying, but I also have a fairly well paying job (~100k annually) and have a lot of random physical hobbies (hiking and a few different sports) + lift 3x/week. I am admittedly not super dedicated to any single hobby and can go weeks/months without touching most of them if I get busy with other things.
Is there any good way to meet single women in similar life circumstances? Nearly all of the nerdier women I meet who show any interest generally don't have a great career & are in poor shape, while the normie girls I meet are weirded out by me liking anime or whatever else. I have met/befriended an ok # of women via cons who I like talking to, are in ok shape, and have real jobs, but they all live far away from me and are either in long term relationships or are married. Is it just a numbers game where I should keep just doing things I like and hoping something works out, or is there something else I should try?

>>32292744
>>32292856
>through text

it's discord. he's a discord faggot and deserved to be brutally rejected, she should've been meaner.

>>32293719
she's just trying to get the project done.

I need some advice on ED. I've had it for a while but it's never really hurt my ability to fuck women until this last weekend. Normally it get like 90% hard and loses elections fairly quickly, but once I'm banging it gets 100% hard.

I spent two nights with this girl I've been dating this weekend. The first I was able to get relatively hard and bang her no problem. But there's day after and today i wasn't able to get hard at all, which is crazy because I had a fwb just a few months ago that I could go multiple rounds with in a meetup. It was getting hard kinda randomly, like when we were cuddling on occasion, but then would go dead limp if either of us tried to touch it. What the fuck is going on and how do i fix it as fast as possible?

>>32295068
yeah you gotta give up the weird shit: anime and cosplaying and all that. it's a numbers game, sure, but do you really wanna be trying this for years just in the hope that you get one or two eventually? maximize your access to normie women and chances are you're going to find one you like and who likes you. and to do that you have to switch out some of your nerdier hobbies for more social active ones

>>32294108
>I feel like they think I have ulterior motives
It's probably because you're hiding that you have ulterior motives. I'm not saying that only reason you talk to them is because you want to fuck them, but you definitely DO want to fuck them.

So I have severe social anxiety; lost my virginity to this random tinder girl 2 days ago and felt it went kinda shitty.
The same girl is asking me to come over tomorrow at 2pm, but another girl asking me to come over today? Not sure if I should bail on the girl today and focus on getting better at sex

>>32296371
Why do you think it was shitty? She asked you to come back, so she must've liked it. Personally I would pick the one you've already fucked, because you know she won't flake. If you pick the other and she flakes, you're not having sex at all

Also, why not do both? Just be careful of stds anon

My therapist hinted that my relationship with my BPD unstable mother has made me emotionally unavailable and killed any skill in getting women.
I'm 27 in a month and still a virgin who never had a gf. I had some random drunk luck where i made out with a girl or went on some dates and some girls said i'm handsome/hot but that's it.

>>32296371
>lost my virginity to this random tinder girl 2 days ago and felt it went kinda shitty
The experience of losing my virginity was also shitty least the actual sex was shitty.. I didn't even cum after 18 minutes of sex but she did which made me feel good about myself at least, she was a loose single mom pussy wasn't tight at all. The cuddling and kissing was nice afterwards though. I seem to only be able to cum from girls blowing me, pussy just doesn't really do it for me.

Would you consider it a dealbreaker if a girl talks about past boyfriends and other guys that want her, and gets close to other men in front of you, to make you jealous?

>>32297320
Yeah I don't put up with that shit, but when it comes to talking about past partners context matters. Trying to get flirty with other guys is when I just leave and never talk to her again, I'm had that happen only twice.

>>32297345
Yeah I normally would but the jealousy play must have worked. FTR we aren't dating but we got to 2nd base. She was ready to fall into my arms but I was getting over a previous breakup. Then I ran into her at a bar and she did that.

>>32297320
Nigga run.
This shit is 100% bpd/red flag behavior.
I was coping about this with a girl i liked but if a chick is openly and publicly flirting with dudes, she's a whore. No way around it. She begs for attention.

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>>32297300

Try anal.

>>32297367
Yeah you're right. What will she be like as a wife and mom, is what I need to consider.

>>32297378
I have yet to try anal, how many girls actually like anal?

Where the FUCK do I find women? Everyone in uni seems to have a bf. Do I just approach random women on the street?

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If you're an average dude, is IRL really easier than OLD?
I'm wondering if I should bother trying to maximise my profile or give up and focus on IRL.

>>32297585
Meeting women organically IRL is better imo but everyone's experience is different.

>>32297585
Admittedly its anecdotal but every guy (including myself) that I have known pulled WAY hotter girls IRL than online. Even dudes who I legitimately consider qualifying as Chads tended to pull girls way below their caliber online most of the time. The way I see it, online you'll get girls liking you who are below you in physical attractiveness while IRL you'll be able to grab the interest of girls who are 2-3 points above you in physical attractiveness. So if you're an average 5-6 point guy, you can reach for the 8-9 girls and even 10s and have a fair shot while on dating apps they wouldn't give you a second glance (and while it seems bullshit, most of the best looking and low maintenance girls aren't on dating apps).

OLD is useful if you're a guy with no experience and no confidence with girls who is unable to force himself past his social anxiety and hit on girls in real life (or who has no social circles with girls that you want to date in them) because it is free of the discomfort of socializing in real life. It does however have its downsides in that the girls you'll get from them will generally not be the hottest you are actually capable of getting. Or the sanest/nicest.

>>32297385
30%

>>32297611
>OLD is useful if you're a guy with no experience and no confidence with girls who is unable to force himself past his social anxiety and hit on girls in real life (or who has no social circles with girls that you want to date in them) because it is free of the discomfort of socializing in real life. It does however have its downsides in that the girls you'll get from them will generally not be the hottest you are actually capable of getting. Or the sanest/nicest.

that's just fucking bullshit tb h

online dating DOESN'T WORK FOR SUB8s. FACE IT. the only thing that happens when a guy with no confidence (aka sub8, because someone who gets praised all the time would not lack confidence) gets on tinder is that he gets 0 matches or a few matches who are not actually interested.

and since 90% of guys are not chads, there's a 90% chance that you are not a chad and know this perfectly well. but for some reason, men have decided to collectively lie about dating success KEK

>>32297585

100% focus on IRL

>>32297469
>Do I just approach random women on the street?
no

>>32297585
IRL 100% pretty much all dating sites are 80-90% men and the rest a small pool of women, so the odds are against you way more online because of that. I have NEVER got laid through OLD but I do alright with girls in clubs and shit, focus on IRL.

>>32294888
/thread

>>32298136
>a guy with no confidence (aka sub8, because someone who gets praised all the time would not lack confidence) gets on tinder is that he gets 0 matches or a few matches who are not actually interested.
I get complimented on my looks a lot (compared to most guys who seem to be complimented almost never) and I used to lack confidence despite getting laid regularly. You can't account for what goes on in people's heads.

Do you see it as a man's responsibility to tell a woman he just wants sex/FWB or woman's responsibility to ask? I have arranged for a woman to come over (basically netflix & chill), we've flirted sexually so IMO it's implied we're going to, but we haven't discussed anything happening explicitly. I don't want a GF, just FWB.

>>32298212
Oh forgot to say I get a few matches on tinder (15 or so in the first week) but they very very rarely go anywhere so I gave up

>>32298206
That is pretty much it. Some women like dudes who are tall and muscular, whereas others like lanklets because their dicks look dick. But if you have weird proportions, like narrow shoulders or wide hips etc. then height might not save you.

>>32294108
Boo hoo I'm handsome boo hoo.

Been seeing this girl for about three months. Exclusive and everything is going great. However, I need your opinion on a couple things. I am pretty avoidant and in the past actively looked for sign to disqualify ladies so I need your guys’s two cents.


> guy dispatching us was pretty attractive. As he was leaving, she she turned her whole head and held his eye contact.
>talked to her about it and and said that if she was out here looking cute for guys, we don’t need to be seeing each other. She’s behaved since then.

> second date we’re talking about personal things
> she states that she wants a marriage where they can talk about opening it up
> I later ask her about it and she says she meant that she wants a marriage where she can communicate about everything


Besides those she’s been awesome to me. She takes care of me. She looks out for me, but my spidey senses are tingling

>>32297320
yea, truth is that if they do this early enough it has nothing to do with making you jealous and everything to do with their need for attention. I once invited a girl to a show where we ended up seeing a mutual acquaintance of mine (and a former tinder date of hers). it was all fine until we left to go to another place. the guy ends up texting her and she invites him to hang out with us. keep in mine this was the first 'date'. the next date (a party) we go on she gets in a conversation with a random guy for like 30 minutes despite numerous attempts to pull her away. at this point I liked her company but knew I was gonna friendzone her until I brought her around my friends and the jealousy/attachment totally took over and I had to never speak to her again. luckily most of my friends had gfs or were totally turned off by my experiences I had w her.

>>32298284
>guy dispatching us
What does that mean?
>As he was leaving, she she turned her whole head and held his eye contact.
You mean she looked at someone else? Not sure I would have noticed that... How can she make prolonged eye contact with someone walking away? Could she have been waiting for him to get out of earshot before continuing the conversation?
>talked to her about it and and said that if she was out here looking cute for guys, we don’t need to be seeing each other.
Sounds insecure to me.
>she states that she wants a marriage where they can talk about opening it up
>I later ask her about it and she says she meant that she wants a marriage where she can communicate about everything
This raises an eyebrow. If you're sure that's what she said then she lied. I wouldn't continue dating a woman I had caught in a lie. If it's plausible you misheard or misunderstood then I would personally try bringing it up subtly in a way that sounds encouraging. But some women are too smart for that.
Overall you sound a bit insecure so I suspect that your concerns are unfounded but your insecurities will ruin this relationship.

What are some conversation starters you can use with women? I have literally no clue but I am surrounded by women on this university campus and I don’t know what to say. I am wasting my opportunities. Please help me anons

>>32298435
Just talk about uni stuff and ask questions. Let them talk and just go along. The best question is "do you have an exam coming?" and let her vent.

Should I get to know her a bit more than the basics, hang out a few times, before asking her out on a date? Or is it acceptable to ask her out right out the gate after initial contact?
First date to a coffee shop or some thing simple. I understand females fear going to an unfamiliar place with someone they barely know.

>>32298871
>Or is it acceptable to ask her out right out the gate after initial contact?
Just to have a basic conversation with her for a while before asking her out, thing is if you try to be a friend and ask her out later you can end up wast a lot of time.

>>32298791
That cant be the first thing I say to her, I can talk about any random shit after the conversation is started, but idk what to say to start the convo. Everyone has exams soon so that ls an odd question

>>32293195
bland advice you hear all the time, but just do things that interest you and eventually you will meet someone
if you go somewhere with the intention of being there to meet girls it will show and people will figure out

Posted this on /r9k/ but they told me to fuck off to here.

So, after a life of living at home, and NEETing on and off (my last stint being 4 years) at 29 I randomly met someone when I was out shopping. That was about 5 months ago. We started hanging out, and they introduced me to some other people that I've also been hanging out with. I also got a job 4 months ago. I don't feel any anxiety when I talk to people anymore, and I'm pretty popular everywhere I go; but I'm still not getting laid. I think that it's because of a lack of initiative on my part. I think this because people are shocked when I tell them that I haven't been in a relationship for a few years (I never have been). I've also had fat women hit on me fairly often. Maybe attractive women NEVER hit on anyone, and I have to do the approaching. How does it differ some being social, and talking to people as friends? There's also a pretty attractive woman that I run into a lot, and she always goes out of her way to talk to me, and she smiles a lot; but I'm worried that maybe she just likes me platonically. How can you tell the difference? I don't know what I'm doing.

How do I go about setting up dates? So obviously I ask the girl if she wants to go to a place, but everywhere online always talks about "to be an alpha chad you need to give her a time and a place" but that seems silly to me. I'm dating a girl that works at starbucks so her schedule is pretty random, should I not ask her what times shes free? Lets say I set up a time and she goes oh I'm busy that day, dont I instantly show my hand by rescheduling? It seems so backwards

>>32299253
>Posted this on /r9k/ but they told me to fuck off to here.
because your a fucking chad

>>32298136
>someone who gets praised all the time would not lack confidence
Nah you faggots would invent more excuses and stay insecure.

>>32299351
The male strategy counters the female strategy of being indecisive and non-committal.

>>32299282
Fair.
>>32299367
Thanks, anon; but I think Chads get laid. Maybe someday.

>>32293681
you sound like a narcissist and/or indian. women can smell it

guys does asking girls out on the street work

>>32299351
Not really, by asking her on a date she already knows youre interested. Your hand is already exposed. There’s nothing wrong with asking her when shes free, that’s normal desu. In short, yes, ask her when shes free, and good luck anon.

>>32299537
no

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how do I tell my girlfriend that I need time to develop a life of my own? In college, just started living on campus this year but my gf wants attention 24/7 and I dont get to spend any time at my dorm

>>32298212
>>32298226

ok maybe you are an actual chad. mabye you still have insecurities but im pretty sure you don't go out expecting to be disliked and are scared of talking to people.

>>32297585
I'm 25, have never used OLD. Meet every girl IRL through friends.

I'm slightly above average in looks(5.5 - 6 mostly because I got really good at styling myself, and have a slim athletic 5' 10" build) but I never even tried dating apps because I look terrible in photos and honestly they seem like hell.

Expanding my social circle and meeting people through friends I made at local music events, parties, festivals, etc is how I've met all the girls I've dated, And honestly I think it's vastly better, because I feel like the girls I've dated wouldn't have matched with me on an app. IRL I can use my charisma and social proof to boost me up to like a 7-7.5 which helps a ton.

>>32299663
i understand the struggle, being in a relationship during your college years makes you feel like missing out, but figure out what you want i guess

you still have time to party and hang out, you're not gonna miss out, but just tell her how you feel, in my opinion when people form a bubble with only them inside, without friends and other stuff happening it gets boring

>>32293719
bro do not wait around. just get more flirty and see if she reciprocates. she will make it VERY clear if she isn't into you.

>>32293719
do not ask her out under the mask of let's work on the project

just finish the project and then be forward, say you want to get to know her more and she'll know what's up

>>32299663
Why not sneak her in nobody will give a shit

I am 23 but without fail everyone's first impression clock's me at 26-33. The unanimous take I get from men and women is "i thought you were older cause of your beard, and the way you talk and carry yourself. no kid does that." Women especially tell me "it's the walk. You strut around so confidently its actually intimidating" (which is real funny cause all I've done is internalize the arthur morgan walkcycle and made it my default stride). I take great pride in these observations people make of me; it's come after years of self improvement and struggle. The thing is i might as well actually be 10 years older than I actually am because I can't reliably attract women my real age and instead cougars flock to me.

Do I shave the beard and try to look like a child instead? Or what am I doing wrong that makes women my age tell me I look "confident and intimidating" but not attractive? How do I spec into "young women that want the idea of an older guy but without the joint issues and midlife crisis"?

>>32300700
Do you have a young face behind that beard? If so shave it off. As for the intimidation factor, you'll either have to tone it down or deal with it, I also get the same comments, don't have a beard and I'm told I look younger then my age, but I'm often told by both men and women that I'm intimidating and unpredictable, it's probably hurt a lot of dating prospects but I don't really care, unlike you I didn't have to work on it, that's just my natural personality due to my ADHD, my mom has told me that I give off too much masculine energy, which apparently can be a bad thing, in any case, if it bothers you you'll have to just be a little nicer and see where that leads you.

>>32300700
>which is real funny cause all I've done is internalize the arthur morgan walkcycle and made it my default stride
That's fucking hilarious, definitely tone this down. It might look like you're overdoing it.

I recommend shaving and getting a fancier haircut. If that doesn't work maybe try changing your style.

girl called me "bro" in a text is it joever

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>shit family, mom screams, dad blames me, spend youth trying to figure out how to act so mom doesn't scream instead of interacting with people normally
>grow up, ask for advice talking with girls, he just gets embarrassed and tells me to lose weight
>eventually separate from them, can't interact with the rest of my family because he tells them I'm crazy and uses them to get to me
>No idea how to go from friendly acquaintances to boyfriend, I literally don't know how that works, any instincts have been screamed out of me
>people just tell me to be myself, or more confident, or leave my comfort zone etc, but none of that helps

I meet people, I think maybe I like them, I can't think of what to say, time passes and they leave my life. it just happened again. I keep trying to figure it out, but I can't. I've been in and out of therapy for ages, I can't stand another asshole trying to convince me I don't actually need girls and that's just society or I actually DO know how but I'm too irrational or some shit.

I'm 43 and it isn't getting better, all the time not interacting makes it more and more difficult. I'm good enough I can hold a conversation if they approach me, but I don't know what to do. My parents are codependent lunatics who sleep in separate bedrooms, I just don't know how any of it works, but it keeps hurting more and more. I'm not a virgin, I've slept with a few girls I met on dirty chatrooms and the like, one was my gf for several years.

How do I turn it around?

I feel like I'm never going to find someone I can make into a wife. I thought my ex was the one but she suddenly dumped me for basically no good reason. I'm 25, going on one or two dates a week with dating app women, and none of these women are even slightly worth it. It's making me hate women and being alive ngl. How the fuck am I supposed to meet women now that I'm getting older? Hitting on random women never works, they just give me their contact info and ghost, and meeting women through hobbies/friends of friends is a once in a decade thing for me if I'm lucky AND don't fuck up

Has anyone been involved with an art hoe? How are they? I've met this girl who seems great, but she's into film and all her friends are "artists" and I can't stand those pretentious pricks.

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How are you meant to find a girlfriend when pretty much every guy out there is better than you? Every single guy is going to have more appeal than me, whether it's because they're more exciting, got more money, drive a nice car, can fuck harder etc. It seems pointless to even try to compete in such an unfair contest.

>>32301260
Realise you are making all of that shit up in your head. You are dreaming up fantasy scenarios where mythical chad outperforms you, like some crude cartoon reality of a porn star action hero richie rich man is mogging you and somehow he’s taking all the women, all 4,000,000,000 of them.

Stop being so desperate anon, it’s going to fuck you over big time. You’ll either create a self-fulfilled prophecy where you won’t find a GF due to defeating your own courage to try, or, even worse, you’ll be so desperate you’ll settle for a psycho bpd chick and then your life will go to hell.

Just relax, man. Chill out. Breathe slowly and calmly, unclench your jaw muscles, loosen your shoulders. Visually count 5 objects in your room. Then tell yourself “I am not my thoughts”. Get out of your own head a while, go do a chore or a task or take a walk

>>32301179
They're annoying and usually have depression or BPD, try it out either way and hope you got a normal one.

>>32301268
It's not so much some "mythical chad" that I'm picturing, it's more to do with the fact that I have no outstanding quality, and there a gorillion other men out there for women to choose from that will have more to offer.

>>32299809
>im pretty sure you don't go out expecting to be disliked and are scared of talking to people
I used to and I still get bad social anxiety at times
I was bullied as a kid because kids were jelly

>>32296653
Called it off with the one yesterday because I was nervous
Today was much better and I was less nervous, still finished kinda quick and didn't know how to ask for multiple rounds
She asked me to come over Saturday again though. I've also got an appointment with a new girl later that day, but guess I'll try to see if I can do both this time
>>32297300
ahh maybe it's universal that first time sucks. She tried topping me in the start but really couldn't feel much desu, also just didn't get fully hard until missionary. Are blowjobs that good?
>Cuddling and kissing
still haven't done that >.>

i had a good first date with a girl and we are about to go on second dinner date
is second date too early for sex? how do i initiate/suggest it during the dinner date when we both live with parents? also im virgin any tips

>>32301334
You don't. If she wants sex, she'll let you know. As a guy, you should NEVER be hinting at sex unless you're dating the chick.

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So, basically women are two different people based on their menstrual cycle? When they're ovulating, women tend to prefer more masculine, badboy traits and want to be fucked like an animal. Then the rest of the time, they will prefer the softer, non-threatening guy who's going to be their emotional pillow?

>>32301411
Yup. And all the time they are more or less children in an adult body. There's a reason why BPD is a typical female disorder.

>>32301332
>She tried topping me in the start but really couldn't feel much
Woman on top is for the woman/so you can take a break
How it feels for you when she's on top might be how it feels for her the rest of the time

Should I even think about dating if I've got aspergers? I'm fairly socially aware but eye contact is really tough and my social life is non-existent because I got ostracized in school.

>>32300886
I think I've got a younger face under this beard but I'm certain it's an ugly one. I've had it since I was in highschool and only fully shaved it a 2 or 3 times, and personally never liked what I saw without it. I am considering just biting the bullet and going clean shaven again over the summer when my face has the chance to evenly tan where the beard once was.

>>32301045
>That's fucking hilarious, definitely tone this down. It might look like you're overdoing it.
I had no idea I was even doing it until several people started remarking about the "anon saunter". Every single one of them, guy or girl, said it was cool that I walk around like I give a damn. Grown ass adults have told me they wish they had a posture like me. I suppose I get away with it cause I own a horse and wear shitkickers everyday.

I'm a weird case man. Littlest bitch loser my whole life and by the end of college I have turned into the most interesting person in the books of anyone who knows me. 6'1", lift 6x a week, actual cowboy, now I've experienced more compliments and admiration in the last year than I have in my whole life beforehand. I feel incredibly proud of myself and attribute a lot of my recent improvement to this board, but I know I'm missing something. Somehow I get referred to as "badass" and still end up bitchless. OLD is still a joke. I've always had better luck at bars and as much as I like to indulge in some 38 year old divorcee who just wants to bounce on it, the doors still seem shut on my peers.

Is it possible at all to build up character and become an extrovert after spending your whole life as a shy sperg? It would be nice to build up some confidence.

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>>32302619
Dude it's all pointless, being confident, lifting, working, self improving, going out with friends, getting women, everything. You will never make it and you will never live the life you thought you would live.
The younger generations are realizing early how fucked they are compared to the older gens.
Things weren't like this ten years ago, but they are now and they will only get worse.

>>32292654
nay
just forget she ever existed, it's easier for you anon. The entire reason she is an ex is because it didn't work

Why the fuck am i not getting any matches on Bumble? Made a profile yesterday, had 25 likes and zero matches. Meanwhile on Hinge and Tinder i have 10+ matches and 30+ likes. This is odd.

>>32302619
Not easily but it's possible I didn't start till I was 26, lot of embarrassments and fuck ups but you gotta practice being social.

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Should I lie about my age on Bumble?
I (26M) look younger than I am, and I'm also not that mature. I suspect a lot of girls set the age limit at 25, so I'm inclined to lie to avoid the filter, but then I may have some explaining to do eventually.
Maybe I should write the real age in my bio?

>>32303075
If you're looking to simply hook up then go for it, if you're looking for a long term committed relationship then don't.

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Can a young man get a milf with this body?

>>32293924
if you want to steal her from her bf you must also be okay with her being stolen from you

HELP I do the unloading while all the cute girls at work are cashiers and online pickup this leaves me with almost no opportunities to get to know any of them besides in passing or sometimes if they are alone in break room which is rare Im deciding if I should just go up to a ton of them make small talk introduce myself and ask for a number or is this too autistic I have no idea how to approach in this situation also dont bring up no dating at work cope since I dont care about this entry level wage job much

This is a sexist thread, don't post. ("Verification not required." btw)

Man. This thread has a lot of questions, and no answers.

>>32303505
No

>>32292741
be hot enough so she swould be the one sending winky emojis and making it easy to the point you wouldnt even need to ask her out it would just ((happen)).

>>32304138
>"Verification not required." btw
Nobody cares, btw

>>32292620
Went on a really nice first date with a girl to a farmers market type event. Date lasted around 4 hours which I think was pretty solid. She was very chatty with me, got super close, took a ton of photos with me and jumped at the chance to grab my arm and move me out of the way when someone wanted to walk by.

I want to do a second date for sure but I'm not really sure what to go for. We both live in small cities right next to each other so not much going on but I'd like to go to a big city that's a little further away.

My question is do I offer her the chance to invite firends to make things more casual or take the chance and try to convince her to come to the city with me?

>>32304192
invite her to your place to cook dinner and watch a movie then fuck her.

Should be an easy W, sounds like she already likes you. Just be cool.

>>32304119
Too autistic, wait for an opportunity where you meet one of them organically, unless you've seen one of them checking you out then you can make your move, otherwise, it'll look cringy and desperate.

>>32304203
I still think it's a little early to go for the hail mary but if we end up going to the bigger city I'll offer my place to spend the night.

>>32293839
Pics or youre lying

>>32295084
you are stuck in 2017 chud everyone uses discord in 2024 even turbonormalfags evident by that tweet get with the times.

>>32304209
The whole thing Ive noticed is that there is no organic way of meeting them since my department doesnt interact with theirs once in a blue moon maybe when my whole team finishes early but that is extremely rare I have to approach somehow

>>32293681
>Be me
>Ultranix Chad
>6'6
>10" dick
>5/10
>Dating this girl, she's a 2/10
>We go on five dates
>I eat her out on the third date
>We go all the way on the fourth date
>Ass to mouth fifth date
>She dumps me by text, "it just won't work out anon I'm not really attracted to"
Women these days

>>32302094
bump

Matched with this chick on hinge and asked to go out friday night, she responds with "thursday would work better for me, but maybe for you I will accommodate." I tell her I have work tomorrow and I don't know when i'll be let off and she says "well let me know, otherwise friday it is."

There's a sizable chance I'll be free by evening tomorrow, and very well could see her then instead. I truly do not care which night I go out. Alas I must sperg out and overthink this; am I shooting myself in the foot seeing her tomorrow and not "on my terms" on friday?

>>32304119
>just go up to a ton of them make small talk introduce myself
do this when theyre alone in the break room
>and ask for a number
do this after like the 3rd-5th time u talk to her

>>32292636
>>32292695
>tfw 28 and never had a gf
It's fucking over boys, I think I'll just date a former party girl and settle. I have no idea what red flags to avoid. At least the girl I've been seeing eats my ass like it's her last meal, could be worse.

>>32304909
Honestly if we're being realistic all girls party.
Especially in our generation.
The best you can do is just look for one that didn't party too much, there's tiers to this shit you know.
It's like how there's guys who go out to bars on occasion with friends, guys who go out a few times a month, and guys who live in the club and are deeply connected in the night life.
It's the same with girls. There's rave girls, nightclub girls, dive bar girls, house party girls, etc.

>>32302731
Did you pay for it?

>>32304241
Do you at least get any opportunities to talk to them? Just one? Surely there has to be. Maybe you could switch departments.

>>32304361
If you're off early just tell her you managed to get out earlier than expected and if she's down to meet up, if not then just make plans for Friday, expect her to flake out m at the last minute though, a lot of women will do that.

>>32292620
Can you guys give me a script on how to talk and what to talk on tinder?

>>32298223
Nah, just keep it cool. She knows the deal
Never be literal with women, they aren't like us. She'll take it as you thinking she's easy(which she is, let's be real)
They need excuses to be whores, think about it like that

>>32292741
>sub 6 in looks: don't even try
>7 in looks: slowly befriend her and ask after the project is over
>8+ in looks: ask her out the moment they locks eyes

>>32304905
Should I keep it very standard like
>hi what’s your name
>are you on break
>how do you like your department
I haven’t spoken to a girl at work in forever so my autism is off the roof
>>32304981
Unless it’s break which they are not always alone or if I just go up to them when I’m pulling pallets/about to go to lunch it’s brief gaps
>switch departments
I like the one I’m at besides the lack of opportunities to chat

>>32297585
The most beautiful woman I've ever slept with was an older Asian woman that ended up being 9 years older than me. I thought she was no older than 25. Shot my shot at the gym and after a few weeks we were banging. Still friends 5 years later but I don't live in the same state anymore however, every time I come back to visit we fuck like rabbits for a few days.

>>32298136
OLD does work if you're average, it's just not really in your favor. I'm a 7 on a good day, light-skinned and I almost exclusively swipe and match with attractive Asian women. Which is ironic because I almost never get likes or match with Black or White women.

>>32299911
If you don't have good photos and you are average, then you probably won't get many likes from women you find attractive. However, it depends on who you're looking for. If you're White, fit and want to be with Asian women, you are already at a huge advantage even if you don't have good photos.

>>32298871
They fear of going to unfamiliar places when they aren't super attracted to you. I've had women uber straight to my place. If you just have "hang outs" and not dates with her, you will probably end up in the friend zone. It's better to make it known it's a date rather then friendly hang outs. Also, you need to escalate.

>>32300700
We'd need a photo to really tell. I actually have the same problem. When I grow my beard out, I look like I'm a lot older (I'm 31). So, I usually just keep it to a no-guard trim (suits me better anyways) and I regularly get ID'd and people assume I'm 22-25.

>>32293719
She doesn’t like you. The ‘a little’ instead of yes! Is all you need.

>>32303505
Women that are 8-10s are used to guys throwing themselves at them every single day. Whatever the retards on this board say just remember that. They know they are high value and they don’t fuck around with the peasants that hit on them everyday. It only strengthens their resolve not to.

>>32304941
Not true it’s just hard to meet the ones that don’t because they move in closed social circles.

Church and work friends are how you find them.

>>32304909
Just go through the meds and make sure they aren’t taking bipolar or schizophrenia meds.

>>32307283
>Just go through the meds and make sure they aren’t taking bipolar or schizophrenia meds.
Wish I had taken this advice back in January

>match with girl on dating app
>start breaking the ice with some messages
>they suddenly stop responding

Why are Women like this? This has happened to me twice in the last week alone. It feels like a kick in the balls every time

I has my first kiss, and sex at ages 12-13 woth a girl who initiated, and then a gf at 13 with a girl who got introduced to me by her friends, so I didnt have to do much.
Later I was bullied (not physically) by my peers in hs and eventually broke down and stopped interacting with everyone. I had a lot of girls expressing interest in me and sometimes inviting me to events but I was to bitter I pushed them all away.
Then I went to college for a STEM degree so it was all men, and given what happened in hs I was still rather bitter and didnt make friends. Now I got my first job and moved to another city and I have no idea how to get back at dating.
I'm getting fucking desperste because I see no way out, those fuckers at hs probably ruined my life

>>32308397
Stop using the apps I suppose

>>32308397
Women exist in a default state of boredom and you cannot overpower her mental state via SMS.

>>32308397
She matched with someone taller than you

how do you escalate after making out with a women in the club? on my last night in thailand, I started kissing a indian chick who was like 32, but she wasn't down to come back home with me.

This girl in my class is really cute, she looks just like Summer Glau

but she spends 75% of the class on tiktok, I'm concerned she may be retarded

>>32308397
Unless you a very attractive, most women will only entertain texting for so long until another interesting dude comes around. I usually send a few messages back and fourth and try to get the number ASAP. Once I get the number I try to get a date ASAP.

Almost every girl that said, "I'm bust this week, how about next week?" I've never met up with. No one is genuinely that busy to set up a date the same week. Usually if they say this it means they already have dates lined up this week. Usually by the following week they've already met someone they kinda mesh with and ignore the rest.

tl;dr
Close fast

Give it to me straight: is 27-18 too large an age gap? I feel like she's mature for her age; personally I think most girls who aren't at least 21 are retarded, but this one is intelligent and I enjoy talking with her.

>>32309124
If it's just to fuck then you'll probably be judged if anyone finds out, but if the goal is long term DW about it.

>>32309124
For a relationship there is going to be a big maturity and life experience gap that will make building something serious difficult. If you just want to fuck who gives a fuck. Wham, bam, thank you ma'am.

>>32299537
It depends

>>32309124
You already answered your question and are just looking for validation.

if I'm 18 is it worth getting on a dating app?

>>32310886
If your not like the epitome of a Chad dating apps aren't worth it, you have to compete with 80-90% men with only a 10-20% small pool of women on these apps the odds are against you even if your a 7/10. IRL is better for average men.

>>32309124
80 and 18 isn't too large of an age gap. Get what you want, or regret it for the rest of your life. Imagine jacking off in ten years during a dry spell, and remembering the time that you could have dated this chick. The regret would be immense.

>>32309124
This >>32311160
Best piece of advice I seen in this whole thread, just shoot your shot.

This girl goes out of her way to talk to me but she almost never looks me in the eyes. What does that mean?

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One thing I suffer majorly with is even meeting women to even TRY and go out with. I feel like I can't even try to get more experience and get more dates. I have been on okcupid for literally 10+ years and had two dates off of it. I fumbled both women. I envy women because they at least get to try far more times to date. I can't even find a woman to date. I keep my eyes peeled too. Even when I am out and about. I go to a grocery store and see nothing but soccer moms and haggard women and old people. Is my city demographics just fucked somehow or do women in the age range of 26-35 just not go outside?

Need help deciding if this is a date or not. I'm seeing a girl who I've been friends with for a long time online but it's probably the 3rd time we're meeting irl. We're going to have lunch then go to the theatre. Also, I'm not sure if she likes me. Some indicators are that when I propose things like this she's very enthusiastic and when I posted myself on my story she said I look REALLY GOOD in the color I was wearing. I also asked if she would get into a relationship (in general not specifically me) and she said she has no time for it.

>>32311842
One other thing that may indicate she doesn't have interest in me is she's left me on delivered on IG for ages. I know she's still active on IG because of gc's we're in together but we primarily chat on another app

Idk if this is the right place to ask but
>trying out bumble
>be giga loser
>interesting girl but looks out of my league, photos of them seeing the world, paris, venice on a african safari etc
>think i'd probably just waste her time swipe and decline
>bumble gives me a rewind notification and says she swiped yes on me
The site gives you kind of interesting insight. My question though is am I missplaying my dating and swiping methodology? Wondering if I'm griefing myself preemptively declining like that, I haven't done much dating before.

>>32312161
There's a shit ton of bots on dating apps, meeting people in person is way better, ditch the dating apps, it's for losers.

>>32293681
This is pretty much me. Got rejected by a girl who's a little ugly but I find attractive in my own way, and I'm pretty sure it was because she couldn't handle me because she could never say why she acted the way she did (if she weren't attracted, just telling me to keep away or that she's not interested would've sufficed, but she didn't).

>>32311842
>>32312052
I don't think she's interested, prepare to be friend zoned.

>>32311387
Good chance she's attracted but is too shy to look you in the eyes, either that or she doesn't like you. Talk to her more and see where that gets you.
>>32311047
At the store? Depends, if you're attractive go for it but if you've had experiences with women treating you like trash for no reason best to avoid it.
>>32309124
Just go for it man, it's your life, stop worrying about what other people think and live your life.
>>32308922
Vapid whore most likely, don't be surprised if she has no personality besides social media and celebrity gossip.
>>32308499
Just starting talking to more people and hope for the best, it's really the only thing you can do.

>>32312464
>Good chance she's attracted but is too shy to look you in the eyes, either that or she doesn't like you. Talk to her more and see where that gets you.
Not the guy who you responded to, but if she didn't like him why would she go out of her way to talk him?

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I used wingman.live for this advice

is it good?

To be clear the chick asked for my info first, said she liked my cosplay

>>32312793
Because women are weird like that, they throw so many different signs that will often leave you wondering if they even like you or not. A good example I can give you is this one girl I knew before who I was sure hated me, I still talked to her but she would always cut me short and give me short responses, eventually she started texting me and wondering if I could cover for her shifts every now and then, which I said yes too most of the times, eventually she started being nicer and she became more talkative, which lead to us becoming closer until eventually she develops feelings and we fucked. But initially, she was cold and very distant, and would sometimes reply to my texts in a bitchy manner, like she wanted to make me feel bad, classic bpd shit but you'd never know it if you saw her in person.

>>32292620
What do you think about hiring a dating coach and professional photographer?
I’ve been rated a 7-8 by young women on apps but I’m absolutely hopeless when it comes to dating and in my late 20s.
It’s nearly over for me.

>>32310886
This is your prime, you’ll need pro tier photos tho

>>32309124
Feminism exists because of posters like you

>>32303505
You literally have to look like a supermodel to pull women like this if you're a young man without resources
Otherwise you need to be good looking AND be rich and established

>>32303075
Lie, you’ll miss out on the best chicks (looks and soul)

>>32312894
>You literally have to look like a supermodel to pull women like this
lol no you don't, I've managed to pull milfs before and I'm like a 6 or 7.

I've asked out girls at the gym before, but idk how to ask out a girl who only comes to the gym with friends. Any suggestions?

>>32310886
Look at it this way- it can't hurt.

is soloing a bar a good idea? how would I go about it?

>>32292620
How do you even BEGIN to meet girls that have internet girl interests? I just fumbled a girl that was into classical, high art, but also anime and manga and a total weeb. Totally broke me honestly. I'm just tired of fucking churning through dating apps at this point, I'm 30, it's gotten old.

>>32313111
Make friends. Just talk to the people around you. Don't aim to get laid.

>>32311532
Just use dating apps and go for girls who has it in their interests, are funny/sends memes/anime images or text emojis
Filter for people who know Jap to weebmaxx

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>>32292620
How to get good photos for my dating app profile?

>have only a budget phone with shit camera
>absolutely horrible at taking photos anyways
>no experience with editing
>no photos with friends/family that I could use

What can I do? I've been thinking of asking random photographers I find on net to take photos of me in nature, probably grab a few changes of clothes to switch between too. But idk, it's probably gonna be extremely expensive and they will only agree to take the photos in their studio, which is gonna be cringe af if I ever use it for dating app profile.
Any ideas?

>>32315307
Look at people who do really well with others and styles of people you like in /fa/, then take a mirror selfie without flash and a clean room/bathroom.

Be fun, cool, goofy, whatever you want, just don’t try too hard to look suave. None of us are suave

>>32315307
If you're like me and you're not a picture taker, you just gotta bite the bullet and do it anyways. Go out with friends and tell them at the start "hey sometime tonight I wanna get a good pic for my dating apps". If they aren't chodes they'll be cool with it. If there are women, they'll be all into it because women love helping men with their dating life (you should also ask them to help you put together some new outfits).

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Should I pick an agressive approach towards this girl? Just got started at uni about a month ago and talked to this girl a couple times, not to the point where I would consider her a friend or anything, but she's attractive enough and single and when we spoke she seemed like she could be attracted to me (idk could be just wishful thinking, but she actually talked a lot, joked around and even wished me to get home safely and looked at me the whole time with a smile and puppy eyes) Would I be correct in trying to ask her out asap or should I wait until I've befriended her more?

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Today I cba to do my hair, so I just brushed it all forward and slapped on a beanie. I had lots of girls looking at me and smiling. Some of them half my age. I just don't understand how you can get that sort of reaction when you're not trying. Maybe there's something about that 'look' that chicks dig?

>>32315624
ask her out asap

>>32315535
good friends will have fun with this and want to make you look good. and even asking strangers for favors like this can get people on your side because you come across as such an underdog

>>32302619
not only is it possible, you will question whether you were an extrovert all along and it was just the social conditioning that had you thinking otherwise

dating app question-
should you hug as a greeting gesture when you meet for the first time?

>>32305062
"Have you eaten yet ?"

Hello guys, I once again find myself in a random womans bed. What do I do?

Any advice if you completely shut down when talking to women? My friend has been trying to wingman me but I avoid all eye contact and try to say as little as possible whenever I'm put into a situation where I talk to a girl. I also try to end the conversation as fast as possible or simply ignore her and try to talk directly to my friend about an unrelated topic.

how bad would it be to show up to my work on monday to ask a girl out. it will be her last day but i am not scheduled. I knew she was leaving but didn't find out it was on monday until yesterday. don't really know her at all beyond a few times i helped her out with some residents, we work in different departments. won't be seeing her again as her new job is in a different but nearby city.

>>32292620
>meet girl on anonymous app
>we click somehow
>she hesitates to give me her number
>we do a blind date and go for a walk yesterday
>it goes well
>asks me what I am looking for
>say relationship
>get her number
>write her good morning today, she replies
>how did you sleep ? good and you? good
>no answer since then (12 hours)
now what? Should I just casually ask if she wants to go a for a drink tomorrow? Should I wait a little bit?

What's the point trying to attract a girlfriend when there are so many guys superior to you? There are guys who are better looking, more successful, more popular, bigger cocks, better fuckers... etc. You are always going to be second best.

>>32317797
Do you really think every single woman on earth compares you to all 4 billion men in the world the instant you meet?

>>32317802
Women have an in-built abundance mentality because there's so many men available to them, so unless you can excel in something like social status, looks, sex etc. she will spin the wheel again.

>>32317813
Okay bro, give up then. I'm sure moping in your room instead of trying will work out for you somehow.

>>32317822
Why would you want to give someone the opportunity to judge you?

>>32317829
Because that's just part of meeting and having relationships with other people. Don't come to a thread specifically about meeting and making relationships with women if you're afraid of something like this.

>>32317840
I'm not afraid of anything, just don't see the point setting yourself up for judgement and disappointment unless you're a guy with some outstanding quality that women find desirable.

>go on 2 dates with girl
>don't like her but get busy
>didn't text her for 1.5 weeks because got busy
>Finally text her "hey I don't think this is for me nice meeting you!"
>she replies "who is this"
>don't reply
lmao

>>32317877
>I'm not afraid of anything
Doesn't seem that way. You're letting imaginary men in imaginary scenarios serve as reasons not to try.

>>32317896
Are you going to deny that the average (fuck, even the below-average) woman has an abundance of men available to her? Now unless you're popular, wealthy, got scumbag charisma, got a big cock... whatever, she'll weigh up her options. It's disingenous to deny it.

>>32317912
Success isn't guaranteed, but failure is guaranteed if you don't try. And you seem very determined to find reasons not to try. Simple as.

>>32317923
>but failure is guaranteed if you don't try.
How does that work?
If I don't play roulette, then I've lost?
>And you seem very determined to find reasons not to try.
I asked a question. You have struggled to address it.

>>32317940
>How does that work?
It's fucking obvious. A girl might not say yes if you ask her out but she will never say yes if you never ask her.
How many girls have you asked out this year?

>>32317954
>A girl might not say yes if you ask her out but she will never say yes if you never ask her.
That doesn't mean that you've failed. You can only fail if you attempt something and do not succeed. You can't lose a game by not playing.
Also, even if a girl does say yes, that still doesn't change my point here >>32317797

>>32317970
>You can't lose a game by not playing
What the fuck are you doing in this thread if you aren't interested in trying?

>>32318062
So, you admit that you have no real answer to >>32317797 ?

>>32318146
>what's the point of having a girlfriend if [...]
What is the point of having a girlfriend regardless of other factors?
If you can't answer this for yourself, what the fuck are doing here?

>>32318249
No, what is the point trying to date if you have no outstanding quality? Women can hop on tinder and search for someone better.

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>>32292620
I'm only able to get sex through relationships. How do I become more attractive to women who just want to hookup? Should I hop on gear?
I would break up with my gf if I knew I could just sleep around, I don't think I'm the type for relationships.

>>32318258
The whole point I've been trying to make is that this mindset is ridiculous. You're finding reasons to never try dating (thus guaranteeing failure) instead of trying (which has a chance of success), and these reasons boil down to you imagining better guys mogging you at every opportunity - as if every woman on the planet will be talking to every possible guy all of the time and has the option to order her perfect fantasy man through the mail.
There are fatbodies, guys with horrible disfigurements, guys who are literally 5'0", broke guys, deadbeats, NEETs, and guys with microdicks who all have girlfriends. The difference between them and you is that they actually tried meeting people and eventually met someone who said yes despite the fact that objectively "better" guys exist out there.

>>32312933
You've pulled frumpy old bags, you haven't pulled anything close to that pic I guarantee

>>32292636
Here's a white pill. "Good looking women" are just "mid women" that know how to apply makeup. Do you really want to hitch yourself to a woman that tells lies with her face? Learn to recognize what makeup does to a face and start going after these mid girls that would make fantastic wives because they're not horrified by their own face.

I've met a girl who started working at the same office I do and she's really nice. I've got a good feeling that she might like me back, based on how she looks at me, how she seems to be happy to see me and engages me in conversation every time I'm around. I'm going to ask her out, but my question is how much time is too short/long to wait? She started nearly a month ago, and we've talked every day except one. Is waiting a month enough time? My worry is that if I put it off too long then she might meet someone else. A female coworker I confided in said that a month would be a good amount of time to wait, but any more input would be appreciated.

>>32318462
Try asking her to something platonic first. Maybe an outing with friends or some public event you'd both be into. If she agrees you're probably in. If she turns it down, nothing lost. If you ask her on an explicit date it's gonna be weird to work with her after.

>>32299532
Women love narcissists. Must be the latter, then.

>>32318566
Work may be awkward, but only if she says no, right? I suppose trying to arrange some kind of group outing may be wise, to test if she even wants to be around me outside of work or not.

>>32318622
Yeah it's just a big if. Plan something with a group of people and if she shows up try to see what she's like outside of work. Biggest clue is how she dresses. Good luck. Don't get fired.

>>32318462
you shouldn't move quickly. a month is a while. it would be a good idea to try something platonic first. it's dicier, but you could try some mild flirting with her as well to see how she responds.

>>32292620
is there a how to get rid of women general?

>>32318948
>try some mild flirting with her as well to see how she responds.
cope

>>32319296
flirting is cope? I don't understand this response

>>32318375
You just don't get it, dude, or you're playing dumb. Women have A LOT of options. They can afford to be choosy. You could be a swell guy with similar interests, but unless you have some real USP like status, money, big cock, whatever, then chances are that she'll decide to spin the wheel and try again for that special someone. Why take part in this humiliation ritual?

There's a dude who lives near me. Tall, fit, got tattoos. I always see him dating a different Stacy. If looks don't matter, and looksmatching isn't a thing, why don't I see him with a bunch of fatties and uggos? Just grow up people and stop peddling all this pathetic cope.

What the FUCK do I tell girls on tinder. I get some matches cause I probably aren't as ugly as I think, but that still doesn't help my autism.

If I want least semi attractive women am I going to have to date younger? 31 most girls my age aren't looking to good with a few exceptions, it's already bad enough many are single moms.

>>32320317
Show me screencap. It's really easy desu.
I always try to carry the conversation in the beginning
If it's shit and her replies are trash just immediately ask if she wants to meetup or not. Sometimes works otherwise nothing of value was lost.
Otherwise just take it chill and be friendly, ask her out whenever there's time in your calendar or wait for her to take the lead

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i think its good to take advice about women from larps on 4chan

How do I change my mindset? I keep getting told that my mindset is what is keeping me from getting girls and that I need to change it. Ok how? Literally how? I think I have a kind of incel mindset but I don't hate women I just think I'm not desirable to the majority of them; so I don't approach or flirt with women because I know I'll just get shot down anyway. Really I only talk to women when I need something from them.

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>>32321167
>I keep getting told that my mindset is what is keeping me from getting girls
And you were stupid enough to fall for that kek

>>32295813
How old are you?

>>32321293
Unless that anon is ugly to the point of being disfigured (spoiler: he isn't), then yes it literally is his mindset. He even says it himself you fucking retard.

>>32321510
And you're the kind of faggit who gaslights people like him into thinking "iT'S uR mInDsEt!"

>>32321293
>tfw i spend like 5 minutes autistically reading and reviewing each profile
Boggles my mind how people like that exist

>>32292620
What's the most optimal way to make friends so I can meet a wife through them? I'm 27 and moved hours away after college to a city of 60k people and meetup . com is empty. Aside from a dnd group which I tried but will not be going back to because there was a loud guy with downs syndrome who did south park and Mario voices the whole time. All my coworkers are married with kids or they are terminally online people with no friends who also moved here from far away. I don't want to move back to my hometown where I have friends because I have a house up here and can't afford one there. I tried going to church for 5 months and did have some good convos but after a lot of thought decided it was not the best community for me for a paragraph of reasons. I'm not an atheist and maybe I'll go if I have a gf. I thought about martial arts but all classes are in the evening and my people batteries are burnt out by the evening

>>32321519
You’re the only gaslighting retard here.

>>32320145
Because men care about looks most of all you dumb fuck.

>>32320124
Holy shit you’re stupid. No wonder I can be worse off than many incels and still date hotter women, you morons are literally self-selecting out of the running. Please keep doing so.

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>>32322248
>>32322259
Copers gonna cope.

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>>32322308
>i have constructed elaborate fantasy scenarios in which every effort i make fails
>i will now live and die alone while posting on 4chan 24/7
>bahahaha copers BTFO i win again!!!!

>>32322337
That's a lot of words to say that I'm right.

>>32322347
How many women have you asked out this year?

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>>32322308
it's that your mom or your dad

Anyone know just one non BS pick up guys that's not a 7ft tall guy who is smooth with it and simple?

>>32322362
I'm not stupid enough to take part in humiliation rituals.

>>32292620
This BPD hoe is destroying my normal patterns of thinking. How could I love and hate a person so much? It's insane.

>>32318268
We want what we can't have anon. Break up with your gf, not because you'll get more women, but because she deserves better than someone who clearly only wants her for sex.

>>32322429
BASED

>>32322407

>pick up

you are so fucking low IQ lmao

that shit doesnt work

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How do you hit up a woman after she gives you her instagram? They always flake right after, what gives

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>>32292620
Yo so there's this girl working at the local gas station, I go every Sunday to the gas station and today and last Sunday she worked, we're both 20-30 yrs range, she cute, we exchanged some glances and le quirky cashier moment
She really cute black cool hairstyle, nice girly fingernails/hands, soothing voice and badass eyes
What should I do? I'd like to meet her
I drive my bike lately btw
She looks like a teen pic rel, I look like Shrek

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So, I had a revelation.
I never truly grew up.
Allow me to explain.
During highschool I simply hit the books and was a loner, hence I have no childhood friends.
Worked as a waiter for a while, then got fed of dealing with people and pursued a law degree during which I've been a hermit once again.
Now bear with me.
I'm 34, been extra focused on my job and spent the last 5 years just working. I recently started playing tennis with a coworker and I met this girls that had a sudden and unprecedented interest in me.
She's bisexual, has a high body count, is a weed addict and works as a cashier.
I don't have a high body count, mostly because I favoured long term relationships (two in total. My bald head didn't help in my younger years), I don't smoke weed, don't party nor go to swingers clubs, so we had very little in common.
Anyway, we went on a date, mainly because I liked her interest but had a lot of second thoughts on everything else.
Long story short she wanted sex on our first date, which is something I am not very fond of. And now she ghosted me. I will miss her texts.
Anyway, my question: is adult life made of casual sex? Are dates for over 30s supposed to burn fast as opposed to when you're in your 20s where you must put effort?

>>32323063
What you're asking is like saying how to hit the jackpot on any random slot machine the first time you try it.

>>32323063

>i annoy women i dont know so they will give me their instagram, and after they do they're not interested! what could be the problem?

kek fucking PUA cringe copers

it never began for you. face it. if you were a gigachad they would be desperately available to you.

>>32321510
OK then how do I change it

>>32323690
be a chad with a good personality aka height and jawline

went speeddating, got rejected but the girl asked for my number. heard nothing back yet though.

>>32323359
reddit spacing from the school nigger

>>32292620
Female manager at work expects me to read her mind the same way women expect their boyfriend to read their mind, bitch you're the manager tell me to do something if it needs to be done and I'll do it. I fucking hate women so much.

>>32323328
Most chicks your age are getting desperate for marriage, focus on that. If you're decent looking and made decent money with no red flags you shouldn't be having a big problem. Try more serious sites like okcupid or eharmony, or a local matchmaker.

I finally have a high paying job with lots of disposable income
How do I get a toxic online relationship with a girl?
I see it happen all the time on stories on youtube but when I log on it's like only males exist online

>>32297585
>Should I meet partners using the old fashioned tried and true method that literally every mamal has been using for millions of years? Or should I double down and rely on the new fangled sex computer sorting machine that's only like a decade old that everyone seems to hate and complain about?
Gee, I wonder.

>>32312894
That's not true at all, dumbass. It's easy to pull hot women if you're even mildly funny. All my fat, funny, peter griffin looking friends have hot skinny wives. It's like a whole complex women have.

Is this someone just being nice?
>see coworker with new nails
>notice them and ask rhetorical question
>says yeah
>ask if i can see them
>she shows me her hand and i gently grab it and bring it closer to my eyes
>"oh these are cute did you do them yourself?"
>"yup i couldn't figure out what i wanted so i just did whatever"
>"oh nice, for something out of the whim, you created something good."
>she smiles softly and asks to see mine
>i put my hand up
>she returns the gesture by grabbing my hand and saying my hands feel nice
>i make a joke about my nails being botched
>she laughs and says its way better than most men she's seen
>laugh at say that's not saying much but thanks for the compliment
>she laughs with me and i continue to walk to my break

>>32292620
Where do I find women who aren't talking to like 10 guys at once? I'm not into that shit. It's one thing to have many suitors, it's quite something else to be courting ALL of them.

>>32324997
Don't know, I would have to had to have been there to gauge her reaction. Not enough information.

>>32324997
She was probably just being nice but I'd say it's a good sign that she laughed at your joke.

>>32317877
>I'm not afraid of anything, just ... judgement and disappointment
Yes, it's very obvious you're afraid. Just stop doing that. Stop being a little bitch. Stop caring about women's "judgement" of you. It literally doesn't matter, like at all.
If some woman calls you a fag or a stud, it should have no effect on your self image. Like, they're literally just words bro. How do you let that shit control you?
And what if she calls you a fag-stud? Does your little brain just explode from the conflicting messages, because it can't comprehend anything other than a simple binary assessment of your own self worth that either makes you "all good" or "all bad"?
It's literal bitch mentality.
Just live your life.
Do you think squirrels and shit play this internal negative self talk all the time and fuck up their mental health? No. They just find nuts, and fuck, and run around a shit. They just live. It's literally not that hard.
Just fucking live, and stop making shit up in your head.

>>32325061
i'm pretty sure it was just her being nice. i'd hope so at least. she's a very bold woman which is nice and rare to see nowadays. she has a bf too, so i was just curious

>>32292636
>be me
>/pol/ack
>bored one night, visit other boards
>see posts that I have seen already on pol multiple times
This site really is overrun by bots huh. Or just autists who decide to copy-and paste their weird ideas anywhere that seems to fit instead of writing new stuff

>>32325245
I think it's around 50/50, some of these autists might as well be just fleshbots anyway.
Either way, there's a whole site-wide demoralization network in place. Which funny enough, has itself been severely demoralized since the election. Of course if you're a /pol/ vet then I'm not telling you anything you don't already know.

>>32325069
Do you know how fucking retarded and antithetical this sounds? You can't not care about a woman's judgement if you're seeking her approval, dumbass. You want this chick to be mutually attracted to you. The bottom line is that by approaching women, you are asking them to make a value judgement of you. Now, as I said, unless you have some outstanding quality like good looks, status, money, scumbag personality, etc. the chances are that she will bin you off and gamble on someone else.

Went out to do daygame yesterday for the first time in a month. Blew a chance with a hot girl because I chickened out, because the situation wasn't great, she was taking selfies using a tripod. I should have approached anyway. Hate myself for blowing it. But anyway I approached another girl, got her number and we're meeting on Saturday. Only did one approach in almost a month and it was a success so that's good for my confidence. Blowing the other opportunity is really just lack of confidence, caring too much about rejection, plus I guess not approaching for a long time contributes. This girl I'm meeting is less attractive but might be fuckable, and I think dating her might help me with approaching other hotter girls. Also just the fact I did an approach again, and that it was a success, means I got the steam up and it's easier now. If I go out to do daygame again soon I probably will have the balls to approach a girl in such a situation as with that girl I blew.

Also this girl lives here so that means I can possibly meet her multiple times, which is good, I've mostly approached tourists otherwise. I can have her as a fuckbuddy and it helps me with confidence to approach hotter girls. Anyway I normally don't have any fear of any girls, at least when I get the steam up. Or maybe I can sometimes have fear if the situation is a little awkward, like if the girl is walking, because I know it has low success rate. But I normally don't have much fear of any girl, no matter how hot, if the situation is not so awkward, so I'd say my fear is either of onlookers or of the situation being too awkward. But anyway if I saw that selfie taking girl now I probably wouldn't have given a shit and just tried anyway. Also I've gotten better with onlookers, but there weren't any with that girl.

Also I tried "bait dropping" with the girl I got the number from. It's where you say something about yourself but keep it vague. That way she can ask for more specific info if she is interested.

>>32326250
Kind of thought I had no fear of any girls, only onlookers. But now that I think back I think I've chickened out in the past months when there were no onlookers too, if the situation was a little awkward.

Anyway, "bait dropping" is from Roosh's book Day Bang. In the conversation yesterday we were talking about weather, I was the one to start that topic with my initial opener. At this point she was saying that it was about 30 degrees in her country. I said when I was at the Mediterranean it was 38. That's the bait drop, because I said something about myself, that I was at the Mediterranean once, but I intentionally kept it vague by not saying which country as I normally do. That way she could ask which country to show interest. It might take a few bait drops before a girl bites. When a girl bites she asks a personal question. That's the green light to ask her a personal question. Anyway she didn't bite but later she asked a personal question anyway, and I only talked to her for a few minutes then asked for her number. Also I had a smooth transition from what we were talking about into the bait drop. I think that's good. You can change topic if it dries up, but you probably shouldn't start a new topic with a bait drop.

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>Need advice on whether or not to go to a birthday party with Tinder date
I'm on a short stay in Asia and was on a first date with a girl from Tinder this Saturday, we ended up at her apartment and I slept in her bed with her.
I didnt initiate anything sexual at all since I'm super shy, socially awkward and pretty inexperienced; so we just chilled and slept

anyways, in the morning she asks if I want to go to her birthday party next month
>Sure!
But the thing is there's a strict dresscode (traditional Chinese clothing only) so she says a friend of hers will contact me and help me get the clothes, then I can join the party with her friend. Her friend is a girl that apparently lives in the same building as me.

Does all this seem weird? Does she even really want me to come? There's supposed to be around 20 people at the party, but I'm probably going to be the only person who won't be speaking Chinese. Is it going to be super fucking awkward?

pls help

>>32293878
Yes I remember that

>>32293681
>>32293874
you guys are full of shit
real Chads don't have to play these pua games and follow these lame rules and they know that early on from women coming to them. so stop deluding yourselves. I just do whatever I want
t. actual 8/10

new thread:
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>>32328415