Crying in your car EpisodeLast Episode: >>32338092
>>32340662Women, Biggest fantasy?
>>32340662Women, be honest for a sec.Would you date a fat and balding guy? Like actually.
Femanon doesnt like me
Women, which one?
>her
>xer
>>32340662 don't believe in idea of women attraction throught "emotional connection", i simply think only real attraction is physical and i see in my own life examples how women threat and act around people they really attracted (aka Pretty Boys/Chads). I really can't withhold that these "feelings" are just copes for beta settlers who isn't in 20% of Chads who were jumped on their sight. I really want to put my mind in that place where i would believe that emotional connection can form bonding as strong as pure sexual attraction but honestly can't get it because it sound like a cope.
>mer(maid)
M or FDo you think # of posters should be brought back to thread stats?Should /adv/ threads have ID's?
>>32340676M.Yes, bring back number of posts. IDs no, that would kinda ruin it.
M or FHas your mom or dad every looked at you like this while you were on the computer?
>>32340674So your thread didn't get a reply in 10 minutes and you felt like reposting it here? K.
I fucking hate women.
>>32340682i fuck women. hard
State gender and confess your atoga sins.
>>32340686M.I have pretended to be a woman before.
>>32340686f. I have no sins. I am perfect angel (old drawing)
>>32340670Top, the top, only the top
>>32340686MaleI used to be nice to femanons
>>32340686MIf women ignore my questions I spam the thread with women hating and bait.
>>32340686>atoga sinsWe have scripture now? When did that happen? Is this the rule-thread poster?
>>32340692Beast.
Women, drop a fun fact about womenMen, drop a fun fact about men
>>32340675
>>32340697LMFAOOOOO
>Reconnect with girl from college>She's showing me recent tattoo pictures>Notice something odd with her skin>Looks like cigarette burns>All over her legs and armsSo uh...what the fuck is that? Is this a girl thing? Or what?
>>32340686MThere is no use in repenting for my sins, it will make no difference, there's nothing I can give back to the dead to undo what I have done. This is my chosen path, if I left myself feel regret or remorse it could all slip away, and then I would never reach my destined throne
>>32340701How many more times do you want to post this meth head pic?
>>32340694Genuinely sorry. I am a sensitive person and it just happens.
>>32340686FGiving a shit.
>>32340696>Men, drop a fun fact about menPee is stored in the balls
>>32340670Can you act normal for one minute?
>>32340662I curse women by making every male partner they have be just barely too thick to be enjoyed
WomenYou don't really think that me liking hairless pussy makes me a pedo, right? Americans are not that deranged yet, aren't they?
>>32340705Go on, beast.
>>32340711I do. It shows that your sexuality is stuck in the aesthetic sense of a prepubescent boy.
>>32340670Is the top one the molehill?
>>32340711society blah blah blah women need to stay young blah blah blah but you aren’t to blame for being taught to like that, and even if it wasn’t taught, it’s a personal preference
Goodnight /atoga/I hate women.
>>32340710No such thing.
What would your role be in a post ww3 fallout type world?
>>32340731War lord fuck doll.
>>32340729Then I curse you with having a bf who puts his entire body weight into a thrust directly into your cervix repeatedly despite you telling him not to
>>32340734Nice.
>>32340711No I do. It's kind of easy to see why you would like it. You also degrade outtie pussy labia which are also post pubescent features (usually).
>>32340731Building and repairing things.
>>32340729Based
>>32340731Cult leader.
>>32340731caregiver for children or elderly
>>32340731Travelling cowboy/samurai that saves the world.
>>32340731War nurse
>>32340664Seducing a straight girl
>>32340735And his balls smell bad
>>32340686MaleI used to be a tripfag
>>32340681yes
>>32340731Cannon fodder
>Vince's mother became good friends with Linda's mother and family, and Vince, who had lived with several abusive stepfathers, enjoyed the feeling of stability that he felt at their home. Linda and Vince dated throughout their high school years; she attended Havelock High School and he attended Fishburne Military School in Virginia. During this time, Vince was a permanent fixture at her home, and spent hours with Linda and her family. He attended East Carolina University, studying business administration. Linda was an honors student in high school and aspired to become a pediatrician. Shortly after her high school graduation, Vince asked her to marry him.Seems like good families can heal broken ones. Thoughts?
>>32340747Was it fun? Which one?
>>32340731Egg prices
>>32340729please date me
>>32340731I’d make and sell alcohol, weed, and shrooms
>>32340752That makes sense, because it gives the broken child a functional framework to work within.
>>32340662Women,Have you ever exchanged sexual favors for something? (ie. Blown a guy for a sandwich)
Femanons i am making protein pancakes so your ass can grow nice and big
>>32340714>>32340736another day another insane claim by atoga femanons
>>32340714>>32340736Huh, I just really dislike body hair. I try to keep even mine at a bare minimum.
How do I write better OPs on /v/ and /tv/?
>>32340662Both genders,Do you have any piercings that aren’t ears
>>32340763Make them something like a good soup instead. Feeding femanons nasty pancakes for your weird thing just rubs me the wrong way.
>>32340780Why would you do that?
>>32340753Kermit Poster
>>32340791Proof?
>>32340662>GenderWhat are your thoughts on music festivals?http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qXmt2o5UXGw&pp=ygUNc29waGlhIHVyaXN0YQ%3D%3D
I to make a woman wearing pic rel obsessed with my dick
>>32340763>probably milk proteinI'm gonna fart too hard if we try to have sex after
>>32340813That just makes it better.
>>32340813nta but protein in milk isn't what causes issues it's just the lactose, which is a sugar. When it gives you gas it's because you don't have enough of the lactase enzyme in your digestion system, which is at least temporarily fixable. Remember that if you want to enjoy cheesecake in the future. I wouldn't bother with his lame protein pancakes. I wouldn't bother for his protein pancakes.
>>32340799FNot my thing. Concerts in general is not my thing either.
>>32340799>Being close to a million other random peopleNo thanks
>>32340830HahaThe last 2 paragraphs made me kek
State genderYour 3 biggest icks
born to breedforced to seethe
>>32340851What’s got you seething, anon?
>>32340847M,Has cheated on someone No sense of humorNo common courtesy
>>32340731very optimistic of you to assume anyone here would survive
>>32340847MPromiscuity, Trump supporters, and fake boobs/lips/ass.
>>32340662I need to get a woman that’s my wife pregnant
>>32340689Can you draw yourself as the chud?
I want to mating press a girl, but like with affection
>>32340847F>bitter>judgmental>self pitying
Things you wouldn't feed your hypothetical bf/gf but you would eat for yourself?state gender
>>32340871The incel triptych
>>32340873FAspic
>>32340873MPussy
>>32340662I’m drunk rn and wish a girl would suck my dick and then cuddle me after
>>32340879I had to look it up. You'd eat that?
>>32340847FTrump Supporters, picky eating, Emotionally Unavailable/Anxious Attachment
>>32340890I only like the plain kind without anything in it but then its just broth jello, which is very yummy. But I assume most people would be grossed out by that.
>>32340873M. Kale. I would never put my cheap bird food on others, but I love it.
>>32340896Kale is delicious tho.
>>32340893You're not wrong. You probably cook? Both a taste for the strange if savory and the sense to not expect others to like it.
>>32340860>>32340892Kamala lost.
>>32340871Literally me
>>32340902Yeah, I do like to cook. Actually I might make some. I got all the ingredients and it is a nice and somewhat healthy snack. Have you ever tried it?
>>32340907Stop that.
>>32340903Stupidity won.That's scarier.
>>32340915No.
>>32340662Do women like lots of thin cum of a little bit of thick cum?
>>32340918Yes.
>>32340915Just memeing, I'm not really judgmental.I've become increasingly bitter (at myself) and self-pitying over the years though.
>>32340921I only like the orgasm, the cum is just an unfortunate byproduct. No, I am not JH.
>>32340842More fun factsThe ability to digest lactose into adulthood is highly variable, even just in europe it ranges from 15–54% in the southeast to 89–96% in the northwest. For example, only 17% of Greeks are predicted to possess the ability to digest lactose into adulthood, while around 80% of Finns and Hungarians and 100% of Irish people(bless my Irish ancestors) are predicted to be lactase persistent. Or in India, in the northwest, 48.95%, declining all the way to to 1.5% in the southeast, and 0.8% in the northeast.
>>32340847>State genderF>Your 3 biggest icksRandom mumbling or singing"I can't help it"Asking the same question twice
>>32340925Understandable, who would not?
>>32340927Why do women hate cum so much >:(
>>32340662Ngl a footjob rn would go crazy
>>32340933Its slimy and tastes and smells disgusting. Very bitter. The worst taste and the worst consistency in one bodily fluid.
>>32340912No I certainly haven't. I'd try it out though, I like a lot of things.
>>32340944Based. I like it when people are adventurous eaters.
>>32340942You're not meant to taste it. Or eat it. I hate porn.
>>32340950Exactly. It should only go inside my pussy where consistency and volume is irrelevant. So why even ask that?
>>32340942Omg, get over it
>>32340953Why should I?
>>32340931What are your biggest 3 icks?
>>32340896>>32340900>these two right now
>>32340953Toxic man doesn't try to make his cum palatable
>>32340955Because men do a lot of things they don’t like to do
WomenI won't ask you for head but you won't ask me for eating yout puss either. Is it ok?Mouths are meant for kisses and nibbling.
>>32340952I didn't ask the first question
>>32340873FPickles apparently, maybe vinegar stuff too.
>>32340960I do, I think I taste good
>>32340959I wish.Unfortunately my left over kale has wilted.
>>32340962So do I, but sex is supposed to be fun and enjoyable. There is no other reason to do it, so why make it icky?
>>32340662Women will suck dick and eat ass but cum is too icky for them
>>32340956Lol
>>32340977Because I like it
>>32340968>vinegar stuffI couldn't date anyone who didn't like old fashioned cucumbers and onions in vinegar. tippy top tier snack that could never make you fat
>>32340969>a good chef tastes everything he makes
>>32340982Not my problem.
>>32340989It is if we’re together
>>32340990We are not.
>>32340978wrong, i will suck dick and you better cum in my mouth (then kiss me after)>>32340799too many people. i was lucky that the one concert i went to there was enough space around me
>>32340995I’ll absolutely kiss you
>>32341000Thank you. I'm a hairy fat bald man named Arnol.
You feel that? Its hopelessness.
>>32340994I figured you wouldn’t suck my dick if we weren’t together
>>32341002Sweet, do you like beer?
>>32340983I like them but butter pickles are my least favorite. I prefer kosher, but I think I also have a vinegar sensitivity too.One time I had an ex's mom's meal and it was like she dumped an entire bottle of white vinegar into the pulled pork. I was really sick afterwards.
i want to kill people like thisi really want everything beautiful being destroyed
Why does everyone assume I only want sex? What I really wish I had is a gf to cuddle with and share silly moments together.
>>32341002why lie and hijack a post?
>>32341012Average human being.
>>32341015Thats what they all think and say. At first.
>>32341010>vinegar sensitivityoh noooo that's the worst
>>32341012>shoulders of a 13 year old boylike lol
>>32341028A fancy word of saying palate of a toddler.
>>32340662Why are bisexual women so good at sucking cock
>>32341036That's a man, baby.
>>32341012>i want to kill people like this>i really want everything beautiful being destroyedYou want to kill those people? Or be a serial killer twink?
atoga needs a chill cave where the weird foodies share their food during a maison ikkoku watch party
>>32340662I need to shove a hitachi directly into the clit of a woman for hours until she goes braindead
>>32341038these are guys i should competei see really only one solution to thiscull them all
>>32341034Bro I'm just white and it gives me a real allergic reaction in big quantities.I can still have a couple pickles on a burger.
behead
>>32341041i used my magic wand yesterday lol
>>32341042I will sword fight you.
>>32341045Using it for orgasm torture sounds hot
>>32341041I only want a wand with cock.
>>32341008Yes.>>32341017Just having a giggle.
>>32341027Meh, I'm so touch deprived that sex/no sex seems like such a nonproblem to me.I'd genuinely get so much from simply cuddling.
>>32341050I’ll put a dildo in you then
>>32341046i have saiga and lynx sorry there wouldn't be any sword fight
>>32341052There are people that do that for a price if you're really desperate.
Sex with someone you like, trust and desire is amazing, I hope I have that someday
>>32341041Jokes on you, I've already done that and ruined my sensitivity.
>>32341069We’ll find new ways to torture you
>>32341034toddler palates aren't necessarily inferior it's just different. They're a lot more sensitive to bitter, sharp, and spicy flavors but they don't necessarily hate them it's just overwhelming when given to them at adult levels. They like butter/cream in food as much as adults do and they obviously like heavy sugar and carbs. If they don't have tangential cause to fuss about texture they're actually less critical about texture than adults as long as it's at least soft enough for them to eat.I cook for my friend's kids and seeing the look on my friend and his wife's face as the kids switch from picky/fussy eaters to praising my food and cleaning the plate thrills me.
>>32340662Women,Would you like to be woken up by your man eating your pussy?
>>32341072That's already easily done. Just having a dick right there ready to fuck me but it never going in would be torture enough.
>>32341075Fuck no, I want to freshen up in the morning first. I get really grooly when I sleep.
>>32341077I’ll tease you by rubbing it on your vagina but never entering
>>32341079Nonsense, I’m sure you’re lovely
>>32341079
>>32341081I've actually snapped at partners over shit like that. It's not cute or sexy, it's frustrating.
>>32341086Exactly why I’ll do it
>>32340847MLack of critical thinking, pretentious, annoying voice
>>32341084I'm not exaggerating at all. I discharge a lot just throughout the day. But when I sleep, it ends up pretty much just pooling up and concentrating. It's not sexy.
>>32341085There needs to be an ATOGA edit of this.>>32341089Then you'd get yelled at. Why is that what you want?
>>32341092I’m into it, let me warm you up before I rail you so hard you think of me all day
Anyone remember the PimpAnon threads? I think they were in the 2010-2012 era
>>32341095Literally ten minutes to freshen up and piss. That's all I need. I'd be fine with morning sex afterwards.
>>32341093> Then you'd get yelled at. Why is that what you want?Torture is supposed to be bad. Once I’ve frustrated you enough I’ll fuck you
>>32341100I’m just gonna get your vagina messy again
>>32341086>It's not cute or sexyFor us it is
>>32341093Nta but you have to understand that being sexy when they're angry is Latinas' superpower.
>>32340931ADHD?
>>32340662I wish my dick was 10”x7.5”. I want to hurt vaginas
>>32341102That's not how it works. If I'm ready for dick and there's one within grabbing distance attached to the man I love, it's going in me. It's not a negotiation.
>>32341111Quads,It’s my decision when you get dick because you can’t force me to give it to you
>>32341103Not as messy as six hours of horny sleep makes it.>>32341104>>32341105I think your underestimating how upset I'm talking. This isn't a "teehee stop it hun" thing, it's an "I'll kill you for this" thing.
>>32341114>"I'll kill you for this"Hot
>>32341113>you can’t force me to give it to youMore than one way to skin a cat.
>>32341114Stab me mamacita. :3
As a guy I want 10 minutes to freshen up too. Morning breath can't be pleasant no matter how nice I think my diet can be, and I want to say sweet things to her in those early morning hours laying in bed together.Was always the light sleeper and sliding out of bed super early and doing a security lap and brushing the teeth/washing the face just made the feel of getting back under the covers that much better. Cozy feeling. Then when she gets up remind her how much you enjoy seeing her bed head and to not fix up her hair, convince her spend the morning in bed.
>>32341045Did you Avada Kedavra that pussy?
>>32341114You’ll want to kill us but we’ll just fold you in half and use your sloppy morning pussy till you forgive us
>>32341056I'm talking about cock fighting you for honor.
>>32341117I will hold you down and rub my tip on your vagina for hours if I want too. You can’t stop me
>>32341099You mean the dude that called hinaelf the pimp named slickback from boondocks?
>>32341069>ruined my sensitivity.Permanently?>>32341092Is that just genetic?
>>32341116>>32341118Fuck you.
>>32341114>I'll kill you for this" thing.Dead men don't get hard
>>32341121>>32341125I'm always underestimated like this. The world isn't porn, I wouldn't let things be so one-sided.
Why do they ignore me?Feels exceptionally terrible, honestly.
>>32341120no, I Auguamenti'd it ;)
>>32341131>Dead men don't get hardUm. Actually you do get post mortem stiffies.
>>32341128You gotta little fight in youI like that, a lot
>>32341133Your my bitch, you get cock when I say you do
>>32341127>Permanently?It hasn't improved with breaks or weening of powered stuff, so yes. I still enjoy and get off during sex, but masturbating is a gamble on whether or not it's with the could hours attempting it.>Is that just genetic?Apparently it's just a chronic thing. Maybe hormonal, but I'm not taking any bc to find out.
>>32341131>Dead men don't get hardGuys get a boner when they dieThat's why people make death a beautiful woman, because why else would guys get hard when they die?
>>32341141>gay men think of boner death fucking them
>>32341012>really want everything beautiful being destroyedcalm down silverstein
>>32340662I’m just thinking of bound and gagged women so horny from teasing that their pussy is actively dripping
>>32341131Do men in comas?>>32341138>a little >>32341139I'm nobody's bitch, especially to someone who uses the wrong "you're".
if you're not happy single, you won't be happy in a relationship.Truth is, true happiness only comes from building dashboards that give executives deeper insight into critical business functions
>>32341152Sorry, “you’re” gonna be my bitch. Especially when I get you a collar and make you beg for my dick like a greedy whore
>>32341150Sorry I tried to keep it under my blankets.
Do any other males see a woman they like and imagine that she's wearing hot lingerie underneath everything? Especially at winter.
>>32341158Slampig
>>32341161If cute women wore lingerie under their clothes all the time, there’d be no more war
>>32341161When I see a girl I like, I think about killing myself, actually.
>>32341155That is not true. I derive my happiness from building barely functioning control systems to slightly increase the dividends a multinational mega corp can pay out to its hard working investors.
>>32341156I might be greedy, but everything else about that scenario makes me want to beat you over the head with a shovel then use it to bury you.
>>32341168Oh honey, you won’t think like that when I’m laying on you rubbing my dick on your clit
>>32341149Think about this, instead.
>>32341158thanks to whoever drew up the exact kind of woman we avoid
>>32341172I wish I could make you happy.
>>32341152This is going to be you after I sacrifice your eyes to God so he gives you giant boobs
>>32341164Bullshit. The days I wear my animal print bottoms are the same as the days I wear my granny panties. Nobody sees either.
>>32341172You want my cock in you, mangling it will only frustrate you further
>>32341171You need to go jerk off before posting again. Consider it your five minute posting timeout.
>>32341176Maybe if you wore a business skirt and blouse with stockings, a garter belt, and heels.
>>32341176So you wear both at once?
>>32341180The women in this thread need to jill off because they’re so mean when they’re horny
>>32341161Nah I just think about how they would look naked with me fucking them from behind
>>32341174It's easier than you think, but harder than you'd actually be willing to commit to.>>32341175>trade eyes for tits, a foot of height, an hourglass figure, and naturally straight hairIt's a decent offer.
Women, what's the realistic age range I should aim to for girls as an European 25yo male?
>>32341182I can't wear skirts at work. BSL2 means long pants are always required.>>32341183No, you know what I meant you dick.>>32341184I do it constantly, but I'm always mean. It changes nothing.
>>32341186I hope jh gets a massive bwc in her ass every day for the rest of her life
>>32341186Don't worry I'll get your ex involved as well and you'll both be my wives >yes you can still fuck each other
how do i get a hot cosplay gf if i am not into cosplay myself
>>32341190>massive How about one that fits, instead? I think I'd prefer that for my long term health.
>>32341194Seconding this, love cosplay gfs
>>32341195I figured you’d like the stretch
>>32341126Not sure, I only knew him as PimpAnon.
To the Ladies, I have two small dogs, should I mention them or keep that a secret till we get more serious?
>>32341194>>32341196Be hot enough so she wants to cosplay with you
>>32341201I can do that
>>32341201you ignored the second part of my question
>>32341131>>32341141I guess Necrophilia wouldn't be the worst thing JH is into
>>32341193Don't tempt her. She's back to fetishizing the idea of group shit.>>32341197I love the stretch, and I get it from a plug I already use. And I haven't even managed to take more than that second one in the pack of three for beginners. I wouldn't actually be able to fully enjoy anal at this point. I'm often working on it, though.
>>32341204Sorry palIf a your gf has a hobby, it's "our" hobby instead of her hobby
>>32341207wtf why
>>32341199i dont like small dogs>>32341194i like cosplay but im ugly
>>32341199Please mention it. I think it'll be a positive to dog people and drive away the non-dog people who would've been unpleasantly surprised later.
>>32341209>i like cosplay but im uglyNo you're not, stop lying to yourself.
>>32341206You’d get really stretched by a fat cock
>>32341205I'll end you.
>>32341206>She's back to fetishizing the idea of group shit.would you be down for a throuple?
>>32341209Even the ugly cosplayers have huge tits
Women you should try to rock the bush every once in a while
>>32340662JH should become a breeding slave for a group of well endowed white men already
>>32341209>I don't like small dogs>I'm ugly Huh
>>32341209don't believe you
>>32341211im ugly, im saving for plastic surgery>>32341215then im double ugly because im fat and somehow have small tits. i saw a guy who had man boobs bigger than my tits yesterday. thats what ive got, fucking tiny tits
>>32341212So would you. So go get buttfucked first abd see how unfun it is to take something you're not used to.>>32341214In a fantasy world where everything worked out perfectly, maybe. Not in this reality, though. Too many things could go horribly wrong, even if we all genuinely loved each other equally and deeply.
>>32341223>she has small titsHot.
>>32341224Could you and your ex reenact this for us please?
me, fr
>>32341219I'm a well-endowed white man, but I'm not into sharing with other men.
>>32341152>Do men in comas?Not sure. We get morning wood, so it's a safe bet.
>>32341224>JH says she wants anal>you say she wants anal>she gets mad at you
>average /atoga/ thread
>>32341223do you have a nice butt?
>>32341230>WeAre you posting from a coma?
>>32341217Well good.>>32341218Only when I'm single.>>32341219This isn't AO3, write your smut fantasies there.
>>32341236>This isn't AO3, write your smut fantasies there.Translation: Fuck you, but I want to read that
>>32341233>those curvesWorth it
>>32341233That's not me, the women just ignore me.Well, I guess in that sense it is rather accurate.
>>32341233Maybe I should date a latina?
>>32341226Hot
Need a latina
>>32341225i wish they were bigger. i sort of want a boob job but i dont want weird looking boobs>>32341234yes actually. my jeans are getting a bit tight too lol
>>32341226I'll react to it for youz at least. It makes me want to stab you.>>32341232Yes. Get used to it.>>32341239So what?
>>32341249Why do you want them to be bigger?You'd just be switching from a crowd that finds you hot to a different crowd that finds you hot.
>>32341246>tfw no BPDemon latinx gf
>>32341199Mention them. If she's not a fan of dogs, knowing in advance will adjust her expectations, it'll be bad news to get unexpectedly. If she does like dogs, you never mentioning them could also feel odd in hindsight, especially if it took a long time for her to meet them.
Women, what's your favorite sexual experience? It could be a time you came really hard, or when a partner surprised you with how good they made you feel, or a time you got way luckier than you ever thought you'd get.
>>32341250I hope you find a big strong handsome man that takes uses your butt all the time
>>32341249>yes actually. my jeans are getting a bit tight too lolvery, very nice
>>32341252oh wait, nvm, i get it.
>>32341233Imagine AOC doing this after showing her you voted for Drumpf
>>32341233this is how marriage for the poor anon who'll marry JH will go
>>32341233>chads don't have it easy
>>32341249>my jeans are getting a bit tight tooanother girl turned into a slampig due to US influence. good
>>32341250Your ex, me and you>I'm aware it's not the 4th
>>32341262That's not what slampig means, kill yourself retard
>>32341210>>32341254Has there been a moment where a girl likes you enough to turn them around on dogs? I feel like the girls I met just never gave them a chance
I've noticed that most of my hobbies are better done by machines now. I like drawing and learning languages and both can be done by AI better than I do them.Do you think this means these hobbies will stop being found attractive?
>>32341268Yes.
>>32341263Her ex is Canadian?
>>32341252do you know how much it sucks wearing sports bras and not having any lingerie options unless i buy online? i dont want this>>32341262pump me full (of hfcs)
>>32341267Bro hoes love dogs what are you talking about
>>32341268It's ogre :(
>>32341255Oof. It is so hard to pick a single favorite. I do have to say, it is not physical pleasure that makes a session stand out for me. Remembering sex was really really good is kind of like remembering that food was really really good, you still know but it's not like you can access the raw experience well, you just remember it WAS good. What makes me think of it for days afterwards is usually the way he looks at me or something he tells me beforehand or during. And surprising things are thrilling, especially in a long term relationship. Seeing a reaction you did not expect at all from someone you know very well gives such a big jolt. And sex on LSD is just amazing, like you are traveling the cosmos together.
>>32340662I wonder how much it’d cost to buy JH
>>32341271Why is that an issue?I don't get it.
>>32341255Had my ass eaten while I was getting fingered and strumming myself. Best orgasm of my life.>>32341256Well thank you, I hope so, too.>>32341263She doesn't like guys that much. If anything, I'd be the one getting doubleteamed.
>>32341267I think it depends on how well-behaved they are. A lot of people have some weird hang up about small dogs but I feel pretty sure it is usually because of the stereotype that they have endlesss restless energy and yap all day long with a high-pitched park. If your dogs are calm and well-behaved, I think it should be fine for some.A lot of people that are not big fans of dogs, have never interacted much with them so there is also more room to surprise positively.
>>32341276Trust me, the people worried about AI are not the ones creating actual art or progressing language. They just produce slop anyways. Artists will always survive, content creators however…
>>32341280The more I interact with dogs the more I despise them.
>>32341278What's her cup size?
>>32341278I will fuck your ass if you suck my dick
>>32341275Whatever the current equivalent of one (1) outing to endless shrimp at red lobster is.
>>32341278Me and your ex give you a dp
>>32341281NTA but just saying as someone who used to feel that way, I am not so sure anymore. Just yesterday I read a local news report stating out of 1600 people, the overwhelming majority found AI-generated poetry "more touching, beautiful and artistic" than manmade poetry.Of course, these were not trained readers or enthusiasts, just random people. But that already suggests that for practical everyday purposes (funerals, wishing cards), AI could for all intents and purposes replace poets. Of course the diehard poetry lovers will never care for a trite AI word cloud poem. But that's a very small group to begin with.
>>32341268>muh AI does it better!>I do hobbies to attract women!Good, filtered, you weren't cut out for either of these.
>>32341281>Artists will always surviveyou already got replaced by AI. keep coping
>>32341283C, last time I checked and pretended to wear her bras.>>32341285Both those things need context to be truly enjoyable.>>32341288Strapons suck, though.
>>32340662What’s the equivalent of ballbusting for women
>>32341272Have I been dating evil bitches?
>>32341293cuntbusting kinda hot but rare honestly
>>32341292> Strapons suck, thoughThen we’ll force you to eat her out while I rail you
>provided healthy delicious food>supplements if they need it (like iron)>leg warmers/compression socks for circulation>they don't have to work modern full time jobs anymore to live>end to hormonal birth controlwomen rate? went full chud on how to improve women's lives
>>32341293Pussy whipping exists, as I found out the first time I googled "pussywhipped" not knowing that word yet.That said, I feel like women that are super submissive are more likely to go for a combo of feeling overwhelmed and pain (a man dominating roughly, choking you, slapping your face) over pure pain alone. I think this is also because there is obviously no role reversal and a man doesn't really have to do or bring out anything special to physically overpower a woman, which makes everything more intense more easily.
>>32341289Well yeah, as I said, the generic slop can easily be replaced by AI but I would hardly call that art. It‘s content meant to generate income. Art is not meant to generate income, it‘s self expression for the sake of self expression. As soon as creativity is supposed to generate an income it becomes a product that has to have a target audience and thus be generic enough to be liked by the mass, much more than an authentic self expression. The idea that you should be able to make a living from true art has been retarded a thousand years ago and it still is. It‘s just that now the creating of things that people like to call art but actually isn‘t is not going to be lucrative anymore since it is now automated. AI is just the modern day age of industrialization. Humanity will have to adapt, wether they want to or not. The invention of the steam engine also cost a lot of people their livelihood. Thats just what happens as humans progress towards automating more things that do not require human consciousness to be created.
>>32341298>improve women's lives>doesn't realize Iron supplements are toxic and don't fix anemia>doesn't mention making cheap and accessible natural progesterone products for only a few dollars eachYIKES
>>32341291I am not an artist so I have no skin in this game. I am merely observing.
>>32341291you are a natural slave, anything beyond material and technique is beyond you
How do you know if you have mental illness, or if your problems are mainly just caused by trauma/bad life experiences, and essentially bad luck in life (e.g getting abused and bullied as a kid and lacking any friends/a social circle)?I've never talked to mental health professionals before now. The man I talked with said he thinks I have no major mental issues, but also said there's something about me, and put me in a waiting list for a psychiatric evaluation.Anyone here had a similar experience? Especially from femanons, but maleanon opinions are fine too. I have no idea what to expect
>>32341306Trauma IS mental health issues. Most mental health issues are just a trauma response.
>>32341303there are proper dietary supplements which can be used to address deficiencies.>natural hormone productsno such thing. if the body is working right the hormones regulate themselves.
>>32341296That's her dream, I'd prefer something impossibly romantic, though.
>>32341309Nayrt but what trauma made me ocd so i have to match up the plate size and count every time i go lift?
I love rice..
>>32341306my male experience was a guy taking a lot of money to tell me he needs more money and time to know before passing me to another who said there was something definitely wrong with me but would need more time to fix before passing me to another who said I was fine and then I stopped trying
>>32341310>supplementsMost people are ignorant to the toxicity of the manufacturing process of supplements. >no such thing.Yes such thing, they're not mass marketed for a reason.> if the body is working right the hormones regulate themselves.It's hilarious to me that you don't realize this is a tautology.
>>32341277because its ugly proportions
>>32341309you're right, I guess the question is more about whether I just have some trauma about bad life experiences, or a full-blown mental illness. I mean I guess you can have trauma without having a mental illness? I don't know why but I just feel this need to have someone just be straight with me and tell me what's wrong with me, is there something else
>>32341315I love milk.
>>32341302>Well yeah, as I said, the generic slop can easily be replaced by AI but I would hardly call that art.I don't disagree with you, the thing is these perceptions can change very fast. Take a person from forty years ago and transport them to our time and they would be like "how can you stand living in a world with loud, big, noisy attention-grabbing ads everywhere that depict corny perfect people??" but we don't even really register that anymore. I think it could potentially be the same way for glib AI-images or words entering the social space more and more. I can already tell that as a millennial almost on the cusp with gen Z, a lot of pictures of young people look bad to me because the colors are so saturated and within one second of looking at it I can tell there's a filter making everything glossy and (to me) vapid and boring looking. But someone around twenty is so used to those filters, they won't even notice it most of the time. >Art is not meant to generate income, it‘s self expression for the sake of self expression.Fair, but it is already difficult nowadays to get a volume of poetry published, and you usually have to get it done by tacking it onto a more commercially interesting book (like non-fiction). If the already small group of people buying poetry volumes gets even smaller, then yes art forms will die out. I don't disagree that art is expression for the sake of expression. But is it really expression if you cannot find a stage? If a tree falls in the forest and there's nobody to hear and all that? I am not worried that it won't be lucrative to make art in the future - it already isn't now, as you point out, and never was for most of history.
>>32341315>>32341320i love both rice and milk
>>32341320sameI will never stop drinking milk
>>32341317fuck off dude
>>32341321peak midwittery jesus
>>32341320I love milk, too. But milk HATES me.
>>32341313Perfectionism. The idea that you have to be perfect and in control to be worthy. Basically mommy issues, where for one reason or another your mother was unable to meet your emotional needs consistently and reliably. And yes, it counts even before you were born. Her feeling conflicted about the pregnancy would be enough to fuck you over since that would stress her out, flood her body with cortisol, which would have also flooded your growing body with it and would have influenced your neuroplasticity to adapt ideally to expecting the world to be a place of constant stress, leading to you having a foundation of the feeling of being out of control triggering your survival instinct because to your animal brain you were built to exist in a world that is always dangerous (due to being flooded with chronic cortisol in the womb), so you have to always be on guard. But since you can‘t control most things in life you have to resort to controlling the things you can, to soothe your panicking brain a little bit.
>>32341316sorry to hear you got bounced around like that, hope it won't be my case as well. free healthcare here is decent and I don't think I have to pay anything, at least. I can kinda relate to people telling you there's something wrong with you but never getting anything more specific than that, it's just annoying in some way.
>>32341326cowardly post, you can't even express why you think its midwit
>>32341306>>32341309This really. Mental illness is not an "illness", it makes more sense to think of it as a vulnerability, like you can be born with one strong knee and one poor one. The people that do not ever heal from their (serious) trauma and in that way are truly "sick (in the head) for life", are people that are unable to work on their issues. I personally do not believe it is possible to just be born too mentally ill to function more or less normally.I know this is probably not a very constructive comment for you, but honest answer>he thinks I have no major mental issues, but also said there's something about meI heard the same a lot. Turns out I did have serious trauma, just buried so deep that the symptoms I showed didn't really tick anyone off. I was very avoidant and I'm guessing you are too. Keeping up a pretense of "nothing to see here, all good!" can become very integral then. Basically - it is hard to diagnose you with anything you simply don't know about yourself and/or hide. And misdiagnosing also happens. Do not take anything as gospel especially coming from someone who only saw you a few times. It is their impression of you so far, not the result of some objective test.
>>32341311NTA but do you remember like 3 years ago some anon writing fan fic for you about Gerard Butler?If you do that was me
>>32341326Cool story bro!
>>32341331If you're a midwit how would you be able to actually understand and answer above your level? Genuinely
lactose intolerant guys can't drink their gf's milk without exploding in the toilet
>>32341333Maybe. Did you always abbreviate him to GB ITT?
>>32341328This would sound like unproven pseudoscience, especially given my apartment is a mess
>>32341319It‘s almost impossible to have trauma and it not leading to mental health issues. There is some mental health issues that can be caused by things other than trauma. For example some people have a genetic predisposition for mental health issues but wether it will and how severely it will get activated is still largely due to circumstances. Meaning that some people might be able to endure more trauma without it resulting in severe mental health issues whilst for others it only takes a little to cause a lot of damage. There is things like brain injury that can alter someones personality to become maladapted but that would also be a form of trauma, just a physical one. Imagine mental health issues like pre-istalled add-ons. Not everyone has the same and not everyones get activated with the same sensitivity settings but wether or not they do get activated and how fully depends on how much the system gets traumatized.
>>32341337Yep
>>32341340>messNot really. Your system is overwhelmed, which is why you cling to staying in control in small areas like what you eat or your work out routine to create a sense of not having lost control totally and fully yet
>>32341327the gut microbiome that digests milk is present on milkso you gotta go slow if you can't at first, then you will build the biome for it
>>32341309Trauma is just a physiological adaptation to stress - lower metabolism, elevated serotonin, reliance on stress hormones, leading to the body being stuck almost in a loop - closed off, unable to grow, unable to renew."Mental health" is simply the mind reflecting the body's poor energetic state.
>>32341306>How do you know if you have mental illnessillness is when something causes you pain, discomfort or damageit's very easy to identify that you're not supposed to be feeling something
>>32341346Yeah and the bodies state is mainly influenced by surrounding circumstances, most severely so by traumatic experiences like enduring abuse or neglect in childhood leading to a chronic stress response.
>>32341338>This says more about the IQ of the average person than the capability of AI tbqhI agree, but we already know most people are not interested or smart or artistic or whatever enough to appreciate poetry that you have to put more effort into.What we just don't know is what will change when the majority of people doesn't just not give a fuck about poetry, but they actively prefer some filler nonsense and see that as "real poetry" instead? I don't disagree that the AI poems are shite obviously. Then again shitty "poetry" has been around for a long time. In my country even some train doors spot "poetic" rubbish like>for there to just be a morning>scent of coffee>and for you and me to share what is around usbasically tumblr tier word associations.Pic related is the second best selling poet of our time, Rupi Kaur. Only does stuff like this.Basically just because it's already bad doesn't mean it can't get worse.
What did you have for lunch yesterday?
>>32341310>dietary supplements which can be used to address deficiencies.if you have to eat pills, you have a eating disorderit is that simple
>>32341336making milk isnt a fetish for me but i really want to breastfeed my partner.
>>32341350so sociopathy and psychopathy aren't mental illnesses?
>>32341344>>32341348I missed the last 2 gym days and am fat. 0/2 sigmun fraud
>>32341336they can build the gut bacteria by drinking milk little by little
>>32341345that's not true.
>>32341276Kind of yes. Slop in general is destroying humanity and we keep finding new and novel ways to continue to saturate our brains with pointless stuff.Translators are probably mostly gone. And artists well, people like to pretend every artist is a Goya shining light upong the struggles of the human soul but plenty of artists are just people that enjoy drawing and draw stuff for money. They are valuable to, and having lots of those means you can have the actual geniuses. I think those kind of artists are going to all but disappear as drawing for a living is going to become close to impossible so we will have many less artists going forward.
>>32341332I mean I think that was a really constructice reply and I do feel like my situation might be very similar to you ngl. For example at the end of the meeting he asked me if there was anything more, and I never even got to mentioning how I was bullied in school and never really specified that I do think my dad was abusive, not just a dad with some anger issues. I guess I didn't want to drag it out for too long bc I had been there for over an hour, so I left some things out. He alao seemed to get this "quiet girl who is never angry" impression of me even though for example I get into almost a fit of rage and start banging cabinets if I feel disturbed at home by random noise from neighbors. So I agree with your last point too definitely
>>32341359Just because you suck at being in control does not mean you don‘t want to be.
>>32341361no, gut bacteria does not process lactose
>>32341290Doing hobbies to attract women is a meme. You either attract women or you don't. If you are able to attract women you can be a deadbeat whose hobbies involve calling people slurs for 8 hours a day on your computer and you'll still drown in pussy.
Ate food , and instantly I'm sleepingthe drunk kind of sleepyI feel happy.
>>32341342Has it really been three years?
>>32341374beetus
>>32341376mayhaps.
Looking good to attract women is a meme. You either attract women or you don't. If you are able to attract women you can be a deadbeat whose looks amount to a runover turkey vulture and you'll still drown in pussy.
>>32341379No shit. Looking good is for the male gaze.
>>32341364>I mean you could argue this for most artforms already in terms of more superficial mainstream worksTrue, the difference is that say the audience that is still interested in arthouse films (rather than blockbusters) is incomparably bigger than the people consistently reading and buying poetry. And with poetry you have the obvious issue that even if you do have a hit success, there is the language barrier, whereas you can easily access the whole international arthouse enthusiast crowd in comparison.
>>32341367Even last time at the gym i couldnt do it.Someone stacked a 10, a 2.5, and another 10 where the 5s go and I just left it.
>>32341336Why is there no woman happy to substitute becoming a mother with breastfeeding her husband? Each one wants to have children...
>>32341341i don't really have anything to add or reply to this, but i do think that's a good way to think about this, maybe i have a black and white view on mental illness (like either you're normal or you aren't)
>>32341385you want them to put the baby for adoption after giving birth so you get all the milk?
>>32341385Women aren't very attracted to manchildren, and are generally more attracted to strong protective men (or at least men who make them feel that way) instead of men who act like literal babies.More news at 11.
>>32341233>average /atoga/ threadWe get a kiss at the end?
>>32341233The opposite, in /atoga/ it's always the males cursing out femanons. Nice propaganda attempt.
>>32341365>He alao seemed to get this "quiet girl who is never angry" impression of me even though for example I get into almost a fit of rage and start banging cabinets if I feel disturbed at home by random noise from neighbors.Yeah this is pretty classic for women. In general men tend to externalize their aggression (bullying others, vandalizing things, getting angry in general, driving too fast etc) whereas women internalize it and keep it inside. If you keep all your anger inside it is bound to explode out of you sometimes, you cannot know and control emotion you consistently suppress. You already mention some things here. I don't know how old you are, but chances are you will also look back and realize some things about you and/or your childhood were "your normal" but not "normal". Nobody else can tell you what exactly is going on with you, at least not without getting to know you and even then you are in the prime position to. But what you describe here is all fairly normal and I mean that in the reassuring sense not that it's average but rather that it sounds like you did go through some stuff and have a pretty classic response to shove it down. That does not mean you are "mentally ill", just that you have things to work on, which most people do! I hope this helps a bit.
>>32341394they're cursing out femanons after they say something retarded though
I don't want to be happy when bad things happen to liberals because of their own actions, but they make it really hard. I'm really tired of the 24/7 gaslighting and insults from them.
>>32341385I mean I'm all for lactation and enjoying it sexually but I still understand it would make a lot of women feel weird. Physically the sensation of having a baby drink from you or a grown man is no different. It disturbs a lot of women to let a grown men drink from them because their body associates that act with motherhood and taking care of their baby. They do not want it "soiled" by sexual association. Or they are afraid if they enjoy it, they will get horny while their baby is nursing because of muscle memory.
>>32341368it does
>>32341396thanks for your replies anon, it does sound like we have slightly similar situations. and have a nice day or evening
>>32341397Nah, modern men are just a meme gender and get offended and angry at anything. Can't help em.
Women you ever dealt with a guy who was anime harem protagonist dense to your advances?
>>32341362
>>32341402>They do not want it "soiled" by sexual association.Because it does. In some woo-woo way it fucks up the baby and turns it into a pervert. Because during the act of breastfeeding you know in your mind this is something sexual to you. You've been pavloved into finding lactation a turn-on and the baby senses this. You're just too broken to realise youre corrupting your baby. Most women arent.
>>32341402>Physically the sensation of having a baby drink from you or a grown man is no different.Don't babies suck differently and way harder?
>>32341411exactly, are you aware of what that means?
>>32341415getting turned on while breastfeeding a baby is normal though. yea women are fucked up
>>32341415This is the average atoga poster in 2024 kek. Absolute degenerate tranny(male) who obsesses over women and thinks breastfeeding is a normal kink.
>>32341406You're welcome anon, happy to offer something at least. Just going to give you an example too because I just thought of one. I have been in therapy for years myself and I would mention occasionally to my therapist that "my room was a mess"/"I can't get myself to clean my room". In reality I was a hoarder, but I did not quite realize that, mostly because my living space was so small that I still did not have that much items, and even as messy as it was, it was maybe 1-2 days of cleaning and it would be fine again. So I kept telling myself "it's just messy, which college kid isn't sometimes, I can pull myself together and fix it if necessary". Because facing that I had an issue I didn't even understand myself was much harder. And my therapist never pressed me, never asked for pics etc so I am very sure he was indeed picturing a messy college kid's room and not a filthy bastion of self-loathing and deprivation. Which it was.I can still remember that at the time, I was worrying about my bad grades and escapist behavior, my inability to fall in love, my anger and sadness over my family. The state of my room seemed trivial in comparison. But it was one of the potential tip offs that I had genuine issues and was not just blue. If you want to learn about yourself as fast as possible it is worth the effort to try to observe yourself without drawing conclusions, just let one observation after another pass through and you will develop a feeling that is more telling and wise than a conscious analysis. I wish you very best of luck.
>>32341416I saw the way my wife WINCED every time our newborn got a latch. It was the biggest reason we switched to formula.
>>32341421>manchild has a breastfeeding fetish and projects it onto womenDamnn you are sick in the head
>>32341415I'm a woman who's never had a child, it is just hypothetical for me and I can't say how I would or would not feel about it in practice. That said, you realize women already experience at least a twinge of sexual pleasure sometimes for having their nipples sucked on, right? Because even a woman who is revolted by the idea of erotic lactation, associates nipple sucking with sex by the time she has a baby. And honestly even if nobody had ever sucked her nipples in her life before her baby, they are just a common erogenous zone so even that I think does not fully eliminate the "risk".Mothers do not stop being sexual beings just so they can be pristine sexless perfect mothers.
>>32341421It's not normal at all. As >>32341422 points out, its actual tranny behaviour. Trannies who get turned on at the thought of being women will go so far as to adopt a baby and induce lactation using pharma drugs just to get off. Trannies are soon going to get what they deserve.Anyway, if as a woman you have tranny-tier fetishes, you are completely broken and should have ur ovaries forcibly removed to purify the race.
>>32341427>formulaFit posed one where the primary ingredients were corn syrup and oil of the bean most based
>>32341416Depends on the baby, apparently. It is different though, if you ever saw a baby drink you will notice they don't actually suck the nipples but just take as much of the boob as they can into their mouth and suck the whole mouthful. It won't feel the same generally, no, but that doesn't mean it is never similar even for a second either.
>>32341335you got nothin, huh?
>>32341425that's a very good tip, thanks. if i ever get into therapy i might have to be more descriptive than usual at least. and i definitely know what you mean, i tend to speak very generally too unless someone asks a specifying question
>>32341430You've moved the goalpost now. You literally said you enjoy lactation sexually. Fuck off, you dishonest cunt, i hope you become infertile.
>>32341432Are you having a stroke?
>>32341402All of this makes sense. I just meant that it seems so rare for childfree women to be interested in inducing lactation and breastfeeding their adult partner. It's a little weird indeed but if neither of them wants to have children and the guy isn't an actual degenerate manchild creep then I don't think it's that tragic to indulge in this kink.
>>3234143>being this sensitive and bitchy as a maleTroon
>>32341436>I mean I'm all for lactation and enjoying it sexually I think the kink is fine and I can see the appeal. In my experience seeing the appeal does not necessarily translate to enjoying the experience at all, let alone as much as you would think. >all that hateOk anon.
>>32341440Men are the bitchy and whiny gender. They just project it on women.
>>32341438nta but what he said was very clear and even witty
JH, have you ever had anal and the guy pulled out and there was a tomato skin on his dick?Be honest? It ruined tomatoes for me
>>32341442yeah I sometimes think that is just what is actually meant when people say that men are more prone to anger than women. it's often just whining while pretending otherwise lol.
>>32341441>oh no he noticed me changing goalposts so im just gonna repeat what i said earlier like a parrot
>>32341444I've never done actual anal before. Just the tip of a dick once. Also gross.
>>32341439>I just meant that it seems so rare for childfree women to be interested in inducing lactation and breastfeeding their adult partner. ItThis I fully understand though. I don't think you really understand all that comes with inducing lactation. I have had a coworker who would express milk on the job so she could give her son bottled breastmilk. That took her two times 30-45 minutes a day. If she'd been a little under the weather or she had not eaten enough, it would be a little painful too. This is still ignoring stuff like having to wear different bras, getting emotional from all the hormones involved in lactation, starting to leak milk when you hear a baby cry out on the streets. If you want to stop, you have to be very careful to do so gradually or your milk will dry up and your glands will get infected.It's a whole lifestyle thing.
Cool I lost 20 lbs. in 2 months heehaa
>>32341446Are you genuinely not understanding the concept of liking a kink in porn/fantasy and never having tried it irl? Or are you just playing obtuse? I could've worded it more clearly, sure, but the personal assumptions about what kind of mother I supposedly am came out of left field so my inital post was not phrased for that.
>>32341450Congrats anon, that is amazing!
>>32341450pics?
>>32341450Post tummy
>>32341451My entire point was that it's a fucked up thing to do because it corrupts the baby. That you find lactation somehow sexual is something the baby literally FEELS, due to the bonding experienced from skin-to-skin contact. You then sneakily ignored the lactation part and made a banal bullshit point about "urr durr mudders are secksual too" i called you out on it so now every subsequent reply has been trying to deflect from the original point.So once again. I hope your ovaries and womb stop working.
>>32341438Sōy filters to based newfren
Men and women should both stop wearing underwear. State gender, thoughts?
>>32341445They think because they just express each emotion as anger that it does not count as being emotional.
>>32341458NTA, but babies don't magically sense if their mom is being physically aroused by something.
>>32341447nta>she acts like the anal queen>never did anal
>>32341462FDisgusting
>>32341462F. Awful idea. I'd ruin my pants with snail trails.
>>32341465How new are you?
>>32341462Kill yourself.
>>32341465I literally HAVE to put something in my butt to orgasm alone. I don't claim to be the anal expert ITT, I just do a lot of buttstuff solo.
>>32341462Zipper on peen for that real cheese grater action, scabbing and eventual loss of feeling
>>32341467>>32341466Exactly, it’d promote better hygiene in men and it would be hot for women
>>32341458Look, I don't know how sexually experienced you are, but there are a bunch of things I used to find exciting to think about (men getting drunk, just to name one) only to realize I did not find it erotic at all in practice. A fantasy does not always translate into reality and even if we assume it will, enjoying having your grown sexual partner interact with your lactating breasts is still a wholly different situation from breastfeeding a baby. Obviously there is SOME overlap and you can find that disturbing, that is literally what my post that set you off so badly was about, that it can be tricky or weird or impossible to enjoy something both sexually and non-sexually.Yet I don't think this is necessarily impossible and people do it all the time. If a man enjoys spanking his wife in bed and telling her she's naughty, do you think he can no longer give his child a spank and scold her for being naughty without popping a huge erection? If a woman loves having her neck kissed by her partner, do you think her two year old kissing her neck all over will make her gush? If not, then you understand the concept, your disgust just clouds your judgment.
>>32341471I just thought of a name for the character in my sci fi porno
>>32341462No thanks. My dick would fall out of my shorts without the underwear.
>>32341470No u>>32341472Consider it training to be able to last longer than a minute and a half in bed. Or wearing softer pants
>>32341476Stutbuff Solo?
>>32341474Trust men, parents do get off to spanking their children.
>>32341478A small sacrifice>>32341481Wash your ass better
>>32341481>BruhIn my defense, I was never around drunk people growing up and only knew the romanticized tortured characters losing control. It did not take me much real life experience to realize it was not in any way sexy.
>>32341474>men getting drunkBB if you like this im a regular Brad Pitt, or that chalmet guy if zoomer
>>32341462MWould I finally get to wear skirts without judgement?
>>32341391No the kissing just symbolises horny posting.>>32341394That is flat out not true. Anons are constantly simping for femanon and they usually just get angry in return.
Today I ate two slices of toast and a bowl of cereal
>>32341474>Yet I don't think this is necessarily impossible and people do it all the time. If a man enjoys spanking his wife in bed and telling her she's naughty, do you think he can no longer give his child a spank and scold her for being naughty without popping a huge erection? If a woman loves having her neck kissed by her partner, do you think her two year old kissing her neck all over will make her gush?None of this is applicable because it's not specifically for babies, the way lactation is. That's the difference. Clearly your mind is filth that it needs to transgress to a literal tranny-tier fetish and became a fantasy that sexually excites you.
>>32341407How would you fix them?
>>32341407Too true.
>>32341493She just said it is not possible. Use your brain.
>>32341490Carby carby monkey
>>32341233Foid instinct is always to slowly break a man's spirit until he is a shell of his former self, then go pikachu face when foid realise its no longer attracted to the man. It's really something to witness.
>>32341491>None of this is applicable because it's not specifically for babies, the way lactation is. That's the difference.Okay - do you also think men should not be into boobs because they are for babies, that's literally the only reason they're there? What about pregnancy kink, is it revolting if a man is still attracted to his wife even with a baby inside? Is it revolting if he enjoys her boobs getting bigger from pregnancy, because that is only happening because of and for a baby? All these things are designed for childbirth and infants. We just don't think about boobs as baby feeders so that makes it fine to enjoy them in your mouth or face? You don't have to like it but you are drawing a line in the sand. The female body IS, biologically, for mothering first and foremost.
>>32341496>She
>>32341233He loved this so much. He will fap to it for the rest of his life. This is the most desired he will ever feel.
Would you be more attracted to a guy if he knew how to fight on top of being a good boyfriend and guy? What about if he could shoot guns?
>while my wife is breastfeeding I stare at her face and check if her pussy is wet to make sure she isn't getting turned on>if she gets turned on I will beat her>you will not corrupt my child with your degeneracy
>>32341504Sure, being able to protect yourself and those love is always a plus.
>>32341497:( im trying to eat more food. i had the toast for lunch and the cereal for breakfast, and even if its high carb food im counting eating twice today as a win
>>32341505Just dont impregnate degenerate gooner women and you dont have this issue. If she gets turned on by breastfeeding it is already way too late and you ignored all the red flags because you were making decisions with your dick,
>>32341506What if he beat someone up in front of you for disrespecting you?
>>32341505Thankfully that clown is going to prison soon
>>32341519No, thats a cringe overreaction that shows that you have not been socialized properly.
>>32341502I wasnt talking about abuse.
>>32341513I misread the situation. My bad.Good monkey, I’m proud of you.
>>32341471it doesnt count if it isnt a real dick sweetcheeks
>>32341505honestly?based, why is another man turning you on
>The female body IS, biologically, for mothering first and foremost.So first it's moving goalposts, when that didnt work you're now engaging in reductionism. I hope you miscarry.
>>32341462healthy men already do this
>>32341531>>32341532Funny thing is I am sure anon finds himself very gentle and kind compared to these sex-crazed faithless whores.
>>32341535Wanna bet what flavor of christianity he is on?
>>32341462Not my thing, I have a lot of discharge and would be unable to wear e.g. clingy long dresses with thin fabric out of fear of staining them.Besides women are prone to bladder infections, if anything modern underwear already does too little to keep our lower stomach warm.
Women, which boards average male would you want to date out of all the boards on 4chan?
>>32341538Don’t know I’m only here
>>32341536I am shit with religious denominations but just from these posts I have a hunch he is really into Madonna the virgin mother who was not sullied by sex in the first place by the time she nursed her wonderboy...
>>32341538/vip/
>>32341541So catholicism? Checks out.
>>32341531You failed your mother
>>32341543Is that a single one? I thought there were many flavors like for Protestantism too. But yes I'm gonna bet catholic for sure!
>>32341538/cgl/alternatively cm, hm, lgbt or y
>>32341546EpicNameDROOPPPPPPPP!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>32341550Why do you so this every time someone mentions you? it‘s pretty cringe.
>>32341504Nah. Those things doesn’t factor in
>>32341546YesI’m not >>32341550 and never done >>32341551
>>32341553what do you do instead? play stardew valley?
>>32341555Sure
women, with WW3 looming over the worldwhat would be your opinion on the men who'd refuse to go?would you join the white feather campaign or hide your man?I'd honestly love to collect the feathers, make a cool hat out of them
>>32341557qrd on your lore?
>>32341559Hide him, obviously.
>>32341557Post farm?
>>32341560Eh. I like vidya. Started and sold a company. Married a woman. Now run a youth center while I study psychology
>>32341559Risking your life for some retarded people in power playing their cringe chess games? Nah, I will drag him to a cave instead.
>>32341569Uh, nice. Much respect.
>consent (for any kind of sexual contact) is impossible to give in relationships where one or both parties are ugly and/or fat. Or at least less possible to give consent as compared to something like being drunk.Discuss.
>>32341562Nah. But I like playing on the forest map and I turned it into a wine and cheese farm.
>>32341575Wait what? I don't even understand what you mean to suggest with this. That the ugly/fat partner will be unable to consent "honestly" because the temptation to take whatever they can get is too big? Or something else??
>>32341575Oh I get it, you are saying fat people are too retarded to give informed consent, much like severely mentally disabled people. Very funny anon ahaha I laughed.
>>32341573Thanks. What’s your deal?
>>32341577Nta but the forest map is the only valid choice. And ancient fruit aged wine farm is the only way to go.
>>32341575You make no sense
>>32341561>>32341570what about men who arent husbands/boyfriends/family
>>32341580Yeah, essentially.The fat/ugly person will take whatever they can get even if they don't actually want it (coercive), and another person in that situation may like or love their partner's personality or whatever, but they don't want the blubbering mass having sex with them they just know it's expected of them which is also non-consent.
>>32341583I was just curious. I wish I had the financial resources to open a youth center. Thank you for doing that.
>>32341586Depends on the context but potentially I would hide him/them too if given the option. I'm already thirtyish, I'm sure as fuck not going to blame a teenage guy for being scared shitless and yeah I would help him disappear if possible.
>>32341586If I could pull it off, sure.
>>32341587Your hypothetical hinges on a bunch of baseless assumptions.Men are less picky than women and will often fuck whatever they can - does that mean men cannot consent? Your post implies being undesirable makes it harder to see what you do and do not want personally. But in my life experience, if there is anything that will make it very hard (at least for a woman) to know what she wants sexually, it is being desired by so many men that she is constantly made to think about men's wishes and men's attraction to her and men's ideal look on her, rather than what actually gives her personal pleasure. So the whole idea that the less attractive you are, the less autonomy, is wrong and I think if anything it is closer to the other way around, that nobody tries to talk you into anything (because they do not find you desirable) so you know what you like and want.Besides in your post you mention two scenarios>"ugly" person saying yes to sex out of desperation>"hot" person saying yes to sex despite not wanting to for the "right reasons"that are, in fact, consent. It is the kind of consent with which you'll take a shitty job because the alternative is no job, sure. But consent does not imply you get to do exactly what you want or that you found it ideal. Just that you were okay with things proceeding. That is not undone by lack of enthusiasm. Nobody else but you is to blame if you do not listen to your own feelings.
back massage all the way down the arm to the hand then I pull the tension out your fingers
>>32341597I will fart on you.
>>32341187Bumping my own question
>>3234160020-27
>>32341599Nice
>>32341525Does it count if I constantly and vividly imagine getting real dick like that?
GenderWhat was your last aha moment?
>>32341600Depends on what you are looking for. If you want a fling, something fun and adventurous, 18-27 is all fine although make sure to pick 18-20 year olds with some life experince (that already lived on their own/traveled/had serious relationships) to minimize the chance of them falling hard and fast anyway.If you want a "normal" relationship that might grow into marriage but not in a hurry, 22-27. Any younger and the odds are just huge that even if you start on the same page, three years later you still want what you wanted three years ago while she did a 180 and reinvented herself a few times in those same years and has new dreams now.If you actually want serious commitment and/or kids fast, 26-32 and on the lower end of the age range you will probably have to search hard for women ready to settle down.MIND YOU this is based on my liberal ass Eurofag living place. If you live in bumfuck Alabama where everyone gets married at twenty so they can finally fuck with the blessing of our Lord - then honestly I am too out of touch with your dating scene to even reply.
Pull your pants up.
>>32341605Not that interesting but realizing "Mad Men" is just wordplay on "Ad Men". Not a native English speaker which I guess makes it slightly less retarded.
>>32341569Yikes.
>>32341609Mad Men means Manhattan Ad Men
>>32341611>we need to go deeper
>>32341609It's also a play on Madison avenue, the street in Manhattan where many of the advertising firms were located.
>>32341614Right!!! Silly that I never made that link because they do mention Madison Avenue all the time.
>>32341594>does that mean men cannot consentOften times, yes. Like in the case of ugly women, or things like cuckolding and open relationships.>rather than what actually gives her personal pleasureIt's not about that, it's about wanting to have sex with the other person. A hot woman might end up banging a bunch of guys who don't make her cum, or that she doesn't end up liking, but she wanted to have sex with them at the time. Ugly people it's the opposite, they can't consent to the sex because they don't want to have it with them in the first place. At least outside of edge cases.>It is the kind of consent with which you'll take a shitty job because the alternative is no jobYes, this is also considered coercive by many but accepted as the standard for jobs, but not considered the standard for relationships. Enthusiastic consent is the requirement for sex, which can't be given when an ugly person is involved outside of edge cases.
>>32340662State genderWhat's your opinion on the word "bestie?"
>>32341621FStrong sarcasm vibes.
>>32341621It's exclusively used by women to denote men they don't want to have sex with.
>>32341621MFeminine word
>>32341621MI've never heard it used irl in an unironic sense. If a woman called me that I would probably never speak to her again.
>>32341626What if a man calls a woman bestie?
>>32341634She probably already started doing that and he's participating in the humiliation ritual.Or he's just got too much brainrot.
>>32341610How?
>>32341621Mim cutting off anyone who calls me that
>>32341621FWomen use it for each other saying best friends.Men use it when they want to creep on women, or larp as a woman
>>32341620>A hot woman might end up banging a bunch of guys who don't make her cum, or that she doesn't end up liking, but she wanted to have sex with them at the time.I feel like this distinction is fairly arbitrary. You are saying that if a hot woman consents to sex, even if she looks back unfulfilled or with regret, she consented and wanted it at the time. But if someone hot consents to sex with someone conventionally unattractive, it does not count even if they wanted it and don't regret it? The business of what people want is also tricky and muddy. Does an alcoholic "want" to drink every single day? Does a girl with daddy issues "want" to fuck only men much older that treat her callously? Does a rape victim "want" to repeat their experiences through roleplay? What about a guy fucking a girl who's not his type at all, because he knows all his friends find her superhot and his social status will soar if he can say he had her? Basically a lot of desires are or at least can be mixed when it comes to sex. There is no point in trying to enter that super muddy water and go THIS is a fine and healthy reason to desire sex and THIS isn't. People's own consent is the closest you can get to making sure. And yes oftentimes people will consent to sex they realize in hindsight they did not enjoy, or sought out for the wrong reasons. That makes it sex they regret, but not sexual assault. For the record I am trying to entertain the scenario exactly as you presented it, but I also feel your idea of "hot" and "ugly" is generalizing and black and white. A lot of women are low key at least sometimes into it if the man they're with and drawn to, also puts them off in some ways. Not every woman likes "pretty" guys. Gruff, shameless, even animalistic all have their fans. Women are just less vocal about that than they are about more conventional preferences. Beauty is not equally sexy to everyone. Sex is not called "dirty" lovingly for nothing. Some people WANT dirty sex.
Why aren't you a trad wife?
>>32341646Been there, done that. Never fucking again.
>>32341634He's either gay or he's such a low self esteem fool that he's letting a woman treat him like that and he's playing along.
>>32341646The real question is, why would I, what's in it for me?>rich husband that takes care of youNah I'll pass.
>>32341646Probably because I'm a boy.
>>32341652Show pp or cap.
>>32341605MThis week when I used conditioner and a hair dryer for the first time and went from no compliments to every other person saying my hair looks nice just like that
>>32341646I don’t want to
>>32341646Because it's a dumb internet trend. Being a good wife is far more complex and complicated than role-playing 1950s
>>32341658Pretty much this, I'm fairly certain that it's just men pining for women are nice to them and supportive emotionally and that most guys posting it don't really want some chick in a sundress who makes casseroles for dinner.
>>32341665No they do want that because thats what they associate with loving and happy women. They are in for a rude awakening and I am all for them finding out the hard way.
>>32341665Let’s just say it’s Dinner Time, and Daddy is hungry.
>>32341658Tbf I only ever watched Estee Williams, just to feel up to date when I first heard of the trend. But it cracked me up so much how much it was about modesty, not seeking out attention/focusing on domestic family life etc when this is an influencer who is broadcasting herself, her looks, her body, her life day in day out while wearing a full face of make up and pin up dresses and what not. It's like, if the medium is the message, shouldn't you be blogging about making your own jelly and how good it feels that only your husband can see you dolled up instead of visually showing off your lifestyle to countless strangers?
Guys, would a shy guy ever not appreciate my genuine interest? I'm tired of dancing that dance where I'll flirt non-verbally until I make the guy comfortable with the idea of approaching me and I'm tired of trying to entice them with words afterwards until they feel comfortable enough to ask me out. It's tremendous effort if you're not going to bars and clubs where people are usually tipsy and more uninhibited. What if I simply approach the guy I like, preferably whenever he's alone, and ask him out? Doubt he'll do anything that bad even if he's not single, but I'd appreciate the input.
Women, why is your perception of us 4chad men so monolithic? You hurt my feelings
>>32341672shhh they cant handle the truth (trad wive is the zoomer attentionwhore larp)
>>32341665I'm afraid a lot of young guys really do want that. They just don't want the restrictive fifties stuff for men like a huge stigma on having/showing emotions, needing to be super "mature" to the point where grown men having hobbies was ridiculed and so on.They want to play videogames, work a relatively comfy job, play with their kids and chill, but also feel like a king in their home with a super sexy servant. And most guys into this fantasy are too young to realize you have to be pretty damn successful if you want to work like 40 hours a week and still afford a sweet lifestyle on your own at 25-30 for your whole family.
>>32341674prove me wrong i beg of you
>>32341672It's almost like everybody people follow on social media these days is an ungenuine grifter?
>>32341665The aesthetics are cringe but its trendy because the bar is in hell and finding a woman that is naturally feminine and enjoys being that is tough. Hard to find a woman without a debilitating penis envy complex, or one that wants trad roles when it benefits them, and modern roles when it doesnt. So its really just a reactionary to this where they say "lets just go back to some idealised image in the 50s which never existed"And let's not forget the women who want this too, again for the same reason, a desire to be feminine without being shamed by modernity
>>32341680Why would she want things that don‘t benefit her and why would she not want things that benefit her? Having a trad wive benefits you. Does that mean you should be selfless and not act on that because wanting what benefits is what bad people do?
>>32341679I agree and this is also why I'm not into social media in the first place. But it is particularly ironic if you drop "modesty" every other word.
>>32341677Honestly impossible to do on the chan. Just remember to have some neeuuuuaancee
>>32341679anything posted on social media, if you're able to see it, its a lie. somebody had to come up with a script, think of what so say, and record themselves. This is why I hate videos of people "crying" because that crap is obviously insincere. Anything they're trying to tell you is for nothing but their own benefit, real or perceived
Good morning everybody, how are you feeling today?I'm feeling kind of depressed. I wrote an angry unsent letter last night, the weather is bad and I'm tired from staying up way too long.Just laying on my couch and watching Youtube videos...
>>32341673>What if I simply approach the guy I like, preferably whenever he's alone, and ask him out?Yes, this is the way, do this oneShy guys are the biggest proponents of girls asking out guys
>>32341681acting feminine and submissive benefits the girl aswell if her hormones aren't fucked and if she doesn't reject her natural purpose. it's right because it's the natural order of things and we're part of nature so I don't give a shit about your mental gymnastics and moralfagging
>>32341684How could I see 4chan men nuanced if you yourself are aware that there is no way for you to prove that you are not exactly like that?
>>32341692If it benefits her then she would naturally want it. If you have to force it on her then she does not benefit from it and its just your selfish ass wanting to be selfish.
>>32341692Not even that same anon but there are a LOT of cultures in the world (whole countries, religious denominations, cults) where it is still very much the norm for women to be obedient, submissive, and very much focused on the "feminine" (friendships with other women; child-rearing; domestic life).Yet a lot of those women flee to other countries and while your mileage will vary, their overwhelming experience is NOT "yes this does feel right". It's that they feel suffocated, restricted and less of a person than men.Remember in the fifties that are so glorified, it was so common for those fulltime homemakers to be addicted to alcohol and/or pills to make the empty hours go by faster, that there are tons of references to it. ("Mommy's little helper" anyone...) That's not because women boomed and thrived in their subservient role, no matter how much you like to theorize about biological instinct and hormones out loud.
>>32341694On average, on average. I am a woman and actually have been rejected once by a man I flat-out asked if he wanted to sleep with me, so it's not in my own interests to pretend no men have standards!
>>32341693Remember proper reddiquette: remember the human!
>>32341698True, but men are not capable of understanding this because it does not benefit them to see the truth.
>>32341702No thanks.
>>32341695>If quitting alcoholism benefits her then she would naturally want it. If you have to force her to quit alcoholism then she does not benefit from it.see how retarded that logic is
>>32341673If you already did all that flirting and he still didn't approach chances are he's not interested. Even a shy guy will approach at some point, self esteem would be rock bottom not to.But yeah, just approach. Try not to come across as too desperate though.
>>32341703You are no doubt absolutely right, but I'm still going to repeat it. Maybe there is a lurker less convinced yet. Or you plant a seed. You never know. Hope dies last.
>>32341706That just means you have no idea how addiction works. Which is to be expected desu, given your level of understanding of how humans function.
>>32341712Fair.
>>32341681He's not referring to the tradwife types specifically, but the average modern dating experience where a woman expects 1950s style thing where the guy pays for everything, is the problem fixer, and has to de-prioritize his own hobbies and social life for the relationship, in the same turn these women will expect to retain total financial and social independence and will not provide anything in the way of domestic labor or emotional support.
>finally get cute matches on okcupid>25+ likes>okcupid breaks because match merged some database with theirs and destroyed everything>forced to add this chick i matched with on IGbad luck i guess!
>>32341713sorry for not being so gay that I want a woman who acts like a man
>>32341082>WhaiThey're given every opportunity and advantage to be good, decent people, yet in most cases they are vain, toxic, stupid, self-centered, or some combination of these things.
>>32340686MOne time I gave JH a lot of shit for no reason because I was mad at the world.I’m sorry JH.
State genderRank the following:>successful and career-oriented SO>comfy and homely SO>autistic and geeky SO>hot and outgoing SO
>>32341726M4>1>2>3
>>32341726F and 2, 3 and then the order between 1 and 4 depends. If his career is something I find interesting/worthwhile it's 2, 3, 1, 4 and if he just makes a lot of money screwing other people out of money in hedge funding or whatever the fuck then 2, 3, 4, 1.This is assuming the description really does sum up who they are more or less.
>>32341714>Can we see the letter? What are you watching?I'd rather not post it here, sorry. It was quite miserable and I'm not proud of it.I clicked on a video about how bad Age of Empires mobile is, but I'm probably going to switch to some true crime stuff, like a police interview. Got the urge to see some despicable humans.>I'm good, just procrastinating going out to the store cause I don't want to interact with peopleWhat's on your grocery list? Are there a ton of people in your supermarket?I need to get several things too tlo cook tomorrow, but I think I'm just going to make a short visit to my parents later and then come right back home.
>>32341726M2 > 3 > 1 > 4
>>32341726M4=2 > 1 >>>> 3
>>32341719Yeah no shit, men and women have become enemies and both sides are merely trying to scam each other out of getting what they want without having to do their part. Its basic human instinct to want more and more whilst giving up less. It‘s the same mechanism behind any innovation gone too far. It always starts with wanting to solve an issue and it always ends with ruining what it was meant to improve. For example, humans love fast energy, thats why we love sweet and fatty foods. So we thought we are sly and learned how to isolate the sweet and fatty stuff and add it to less sweet and less fatty stuff to make it more yummy. Very innovative, very in line with our animal instinct to hoard for the harsh winter times. We kept refining the process until we were able to produce almost infinite amounts of pure sugar and fat with exponentially more effective methods and machines. We want more for less. Always. And we are on the bring of doing exactly that to dating/procreating. In fact it might already be too late at this point. We are divided and the opposite gender has become the enemy to try and trick and manipulate into giving us what we want without doing our part. And this is sadly true for both genders. Ofc there is still exceptions but the trend is clearly there.
>>32341462I can't walk on the street properly with my shaft fucking wobbling everywhere and my foreskin constantly rubbing against the rough fabric of the pants. The penis needs to sit either upwards or straight down but in firm underwear that keeps it and the balls still.
>>32341726Male2 > 3 > 4 >>>>> 1
>>32341701I would assume you ask that of everyone and thus have an stdOr bucket of pigs blood in rafters
>>32341690I'm shy as well, so it's just as much suffering for me, but I'm also impatient and I've wasted enough time exercising the above mentioned with other guys to no avail. >>32341709I haven't had the chance since he's a more recent crush, but I've been doing it forever with other guys and it never seems to work unless I find some niche common interest to get them to talk at length. I'm clueless what's wrong with that approach and there's nobody to ask but here. Female acquaintances tell me I'm super hot, I'm fit, I take care of my looks, but guys rarely if ever approach me. Also, what do you define as too desperate in a situation borne out of desperation?>>32341711Flirting non-verbally is displaying enthusiasm with both your eyes, smile and gestures to ease them into talking with you, playing with your hair, clothes, etc.
>>32341726F>successful and career-oriented SO1>comfy and homely SO3>autistic and geeky SO4>hot and outgoing SO2
>>32341741He was a lot more promiscuous than I was and he knew that quite well, we had been friends for some time by the time I asked. Honestly I think he was just weirded out by my directness and not seeing it coming. And no doubt I wasn't especially his type.
>>32341723You mean incels?
>>32341681>Why would she want things that don‘t benefit her and why would she not want things that benefit her?Picking and choosing which aspects of the trad relationship you want and discarding the parts you dont like is not building a relationship, you are a power hungry parasite that simply just wants to extract utility. The freudian slip here is quite funny, in that you have accepted there's some parts of the trad relationship you like.A relationship is synergetic, there is a give and take, some level of personal sacrifice that is worth it because your partner's happiness is your happiness. This applies to both modern and trad relationships. But no, for people like you, it's just about "muh benefits" doesnt even occur to you that there's 2 people in a relationship.
>>32341701>>32341749I'm with the other anon, if a woman directly asked me for sex out of the blue my first instinct would be to decline because it's obviously a trick of some kind.
>>32341726Male1. Autistic and geeky2. Successful and career-oriented (career I like)3. Comfy and homely4. Successful and career-oriented (career I don't like)5. Hot and outgoingI like ambition and passion for things you likeSo autism is good, career is good, but I'm a moralfag so if its a career I don't like then it'll be a struggle to be unconditionally supportiveI'm introverted and not overly interested in looks, style > objective attractiveness, so hot and outgoing is a no
>>32341760Not really trying to argue because he was definitely weirded out and flat out told me to just go on tinder if that was what I wanted.But in my defense he was always flirting with me and always fishing and saying stuff like>I can't wait for you to have an adventure to tell me aboutand being super open about his own sex life. So I kind of felt like he was totally comfortable with all that? I was definitely wrong though and in hindsight I am very glad he said no, it was just a big sign we were not as compatible as I had thought we were, even if just for a casual experience.
>>32341747>it's just as much suffering for meI'm sorry but that's likely not true, as you have a much better chance of getting a yes, so your suffering will pay off and yield resultsGuys have way less success, so most of the suffering just feels utterly pointless and discouraging
>>32341605MI changed my hairstyle and I look better now
>>32341757I never said there is no aspects of the trad life I don‘t like. If I could have my little comfy self sustainable farm where I can spend my days making pie and bread from scratch, braid my hair and frolicking in the wheat fields barefoot without having to go to work to afford it and just look after a bunch of red cheeked cute kids that want to go cherry picking with me, I would in a heart beat. It‘s the having to have a man there that makes it undesirable.
>>32341754Thank you for the nice reply. :)>Aw well hopefully it was good to get it out of your systemI don't think it was productive, but more like a moment of weakness. I've been very good about it the past few weeks and didn't think about the theoretical recipient much.>shouldn't at nightIt's daytime here, so can't get spooked as easily!Do you favourite podcasts, bodycam footage or interrogations? I think for me it's the interrogations. It's very satisfying to see a smug murderer or abuser get what they deserve.Hope you find some lucky deals at the store and there's in front of you at the cashier, bye bye!
>>32341773>and there's in front of you*nobody in front of you
>>32341605MaleRealizing the bug in my code really was my fault and not just a glitch in the engine that I had to work out
>>32341725It's okay, I forgive you as long as you humor my hornyposting someday.
>>32341775In theory, men are fucking great. Unfortunately in reality they are usually only digestible in small doses.
>>32341772>It‘s the having to have a man there that makes it undesirable.why are you even talking about relationships then?
>>32341781Xe just likes to shit on men and we are easy targets
>>32341749My opinion changes given more context, I assumed it was cold approach lol
>>32341781I am just explaining why women reject the trad life. It‘s not that they do not like that way if living, it‘s that it makes them have to rely on a man.
>>32341747If you truly are super hot, that could explain why guys dismiss your flirting and don't approach. If you show interest, it's too good to be true and you are just friendly. They might assume you are taken already.To not come across as desperate just act confident. Good luck
>>32341783Bit of a whitepill that retards with such views automatically self select out the dating pool
>>32341772I hope you'll never have kids
>the guy who played Zeke in wizards of waverly place is a porn actor nowWhy do moids ruin everything?
>>32341792How is that our fault?
>>32341787You definitely do not speak for women because women actually want men.
>>32341792>>32341794https://www.etonline.com/wizards-of-waverly-place-alum-dan-benson-says-working-in-adult-entertainment-makes-him-feel-like-aHe said that he does it to heal mentally from being commodified by Disney, and that it makes him feel like he regained power over his life.This has nothing to do with men but good try. Especially when he says WOMEN were the ones leaking his nudes in the first place.Why do women ruin everything?Why do you leak our nudes? You fucking disgusting cunts.
>>32341784No worries! Nah I wouldn't dare to do that, not even because I'm afraid of rejection, that's fine, it's just what happens if you came out so big and loud that you want someone and then the second you are alone together, you realize you hate how he touches you or how he smells or treats you? Of course you never know in advance what it will be like, but I need to feel fairly sure I will be down for the ride if I'm going to try to enthusiastically initiate it.
>>32341648>she fell for itClassic.
>>32341650>rich husband that takes care of youI know a woman who hates feminism and this is the only thing in the world she wants. I wish I could give it to her but I'm a broke ass.
>>32341799Women do want men. The idealized version of men in our head, but much like women too, real people rarely live up to that romanticized ideal.
>>32341753No.
>>32340664Winning the lottery, investing it, collecting a healthy dividends each year, and just doing whatever I want without worrying about money for the rest of my life
>>32341652I'm the year 2024, that don't matter ;)
>>32341800>Why do you leak our nudes? You fucking disgusting cunts.Shouldn't have sent dick pics, coomers
>>32341810My sister in Christ you sent the pussy pic in the first place, at least I assume, I don't have access to his dms.
>>32341792Nobody knows what any of those words mean.
>>32341807Oh right, otherwise you would have written "in EVERY case".
>>32341814Only zoomers wouldn't know what show he's talking about. Hell, it starred Selena Gomez
>>32341806Again, no. This is not the experience of all women. >real people rarely live up to that romanticized ideal.This is how 15yos think. People who are socially maladjusted and spend their time living in dream land instead of being outside in the real world. You're an outcast, an immature and annoying misanthrope who again, doesnt represent the typical woman.
>>32341805>>32341805For the record, I'm that anon and I think part of the reason I don't like that idea is because my mom was sick and couldn't work when I was growing up, so we were all dependent on my father. It is a strange feeling to basically be someone's human pet. For him to be the only reason you can eat something or have a toy. My dad wasn't even the worst, but he could not handle the stress of being solely responsible for being the breadwinner and the few times he was fully through he would verbally abuse the shit out of all of us for tying him down, burdening him, always wanting/needing more (well yeah a kid grows fast and needs a bunch of clothes and what not). It did not in any way feel safe or comforting and I cannot even remember at what age I made a decision that I would rather be alone than be financially supported by someone.
>>32341817Triggered
>>32341818I'm past 30.
>>32341819If I don‘t represent the typical woman then it should be no problem for you to find one that is gladly willing to live this kind of life with you, no?
>>32341813delusional>>32341818This. Also no woman who starred in that movie became a porn actress
>>32341818I’m a zoomer and I don’t remember anyone besides Selina
>>32341824I dont have any problem finding socially well adjusted women who dont fantasise about vampires and werewolves and cartoon people instead of real men.
>>32341828I don‘t do any of those things but if you have no problem finding that then why are you not playing with your kids rn instead of posting in atoga?
>>32341829I am not playing with my kids rn because i dont have any kids. Any more silly questions?
>>32341829nta, but my kids are all at school right now.
>>32341831Why don‘t you if the trad life is what you want and it is np for you to find that? >>32341833Then go make some bread and iron the laundry or something.
>>32341835>Why don‘t you if the trad life is what you want and it is np for you to find that?Again. I cant play with my kids because i dont have any kids.
Why do women want 30 year olds who still act like they're 15?
>>32341836Again, why don‘t you have any if you want that lifestyle and it is so easy for you to find well adjusted women to do that with you? Alternatively, why are you not cuddling with your wife or feeding the chickens rn?
>>32341840They are the only ones that still have some semblance of fun being alive.
>>32341840Youthful vigor?Kind of a retarded question to ask.Personally I'm more of a act 40 at 20 type of guy.
>>32341842Because unlike women, time is not my enemy.
>>32341835>go make some bread and do the laundryAlready did the laundry, I'm a semi-stay at home husband in the sense that I work remote and that also means I do pretty much all the kid stuff and housework too. Wife's friends are super jealous lol.
>>32341840Young girls want that because they like the look of "older" men (= no babyfat, more chiseled features), but they also want to have impulsive adventures all the time and are not interested in dating, say, a man who works 50 hours a week and has to plan every date carefully in advance. They want a guy who will do shrooms with them spontaneously because it just all feels right that moment.Most thirty year old woman (or close) definitely want their male peers to act their age. In general people are considered most attractive by all when they combine maturity with having kept their inner child alive and still being capable of silliness and playfulness. That is possible without being a (wo)manchild.
>>32341842Also a retarded question, any man who believes in trad wives believes in getting a wife a decade older than them minimum, if not more. He has time, women don't.
>>32341850Interesting typo.
>>32341840All adults are still just their 15 year old selves. Only difference is what they've learned between now and actually being 15. Being able to still have fun like a kid while also being responsible with money best of both worlds shit.
Why do you live like this?
>>32341850>He has time, women don't.Men can father children for longer, but the idea that somehow sperm quality does not change with aging is false.
>>32341851Freudian Slip you mean, inversing the word isn't a typo.I also don't believe in trad wives, so I like women my age, maybe a bit older even. I was just saying.
>>32341854I keep coming up with excuses to avoid changing itOne of these days when I'm not sick or exhausted I'll actually change it I swear (he lied)
>>32341806>>32341819Nta but she's right. I don't want "a" man I want the perfect one and if I can't have him I'll do without. It's not like men are food I'm not going to starve if I refuse to accept a subpar product.>>32341854I have way more stuff than that I don't know what you're talking about.
>>323418562/2Source https://med.stanford.edu/news/all-news/2018/10/older-fathers-associated-with-increased-birth-risks.html.I also just mean this as earnest advice to not think you can put off becoming a dad indefinitely if you care very much about reducing risk.
>>32341854I dont I have nice place
>euroneet femanon never emailed meHeck
>>32341856I hope this means I can creampie without being afraid of producing a shitty child.
>>32341863>he actually expected an emailLAMO
>>32341864No it means you'll produce a weak son who probably has autism if you have sex over 34 just like women.
>>32341856>>32341861Ok im convinved, ill message that qt in PoF imstead of waiting till im skinny, now give me a gud opener
How do I stop preferring dark skinned women as a white man?
>>32341867It clearly said "pregnancy rate".
>>32341866
>>32341864>a shitty childThat's just always a risk. You can have the most genetically perfect fetus and have it come out severely mentally handicapped if the delivery goes wrong.Not to mention my personal fear: a perfect newborn you love and dote on for 1-2 years only to realize they are a legitimate sociopath who only derive joy from seeing other creatures suffer. Like seeing your toddler grimly ripping butterflies and flowers apart and telling yourself they're just a toddler, it means nothing. But your gut knows.I'm not even sure I believe it is possible for people to be that genetically/biologically stunted beyond what upbringing can do. Still a fear.
>>32341863>but I was jestermaxxing so hard...
>>32341871Paternal age is also linked to birth defects, see >>32341861. I mean this is hardly shocking, literally every single process in the human body degrades and gets worse over time, how would sperm production be exempt from that?
>>32341840I think you got it backwards bro, women date older expecting them to be and act more mature (they never are)
>>32341870I don't want you to stop
>>32341872First time?
>>32341873>have it come out severely mentally handicapped if the delivery goes wrong.That was not my point.ANY child would be a shitty one for me.Miss me with that noise, we're getting an abortion!>>32341875>Paternal age is also linked to birth defectsSee above, I just don't any child.
>>32341870There is no way to. The closest you can get is spending as much time as you can around light-skinned women you find hot, positive exposure. But you cannot make yourself dislike something and in fact the way sexuality works, if you try it too hard it turns into a forbidden fruit where the shame and self-rejection only make the kinky enjoyment deeper.
>>32341881>See above, I just don't any child.Fair enough, but then I would opt to get snipped if I were you. Never worrying about accidents or women not being careful enough with the BC. Not every woman who say she's pro-choice or would abort, will actually be able to stomach going through with an abortion once the pregnancy is a fact and they can feel it in their body. Never take anyone's word for that in advance. You just don't know how you will feel.
>>32341849My perception of it is that girls get to do all the fun and whacky stuff they want to do in their 20s, travel, partying, whatever, like every woman I know was constantly traveling around and having fun during that part of life, money for whatever reason never seemed to really matter to any of them. Me and most of the guys were grinding in some way or another. At some point in your late 20s or the big 30 you've established yourself enough that you have the means to randomly decide you'd like to travel or go to a club and party all night, or just leave work early one day and do fuck all. Most women your age are at a different phase of their lives, so you probably won't do any of that stuff with them. So yeah, most of the single men I know in my age bracket live like that these days, I'm sure they'll grow out of it at some point, but I don't think any of them are interested in "acting their age" for better or for worse.
>>32341884I agree.
>>32341863They won't always be comfortable anon. Just leave the ball in their court, and if they decide to, take it as a nice surprise.When did this happen?
Retarded thread hours making me hate all of humanity, God I hope ww3 kills us all.
>>32341891sHE beLIEveD
>>32341894sbeve?
>>32341885You're not totally wrong about the disparity, although obviously looking at groups of drunken frat guys, male students find more than enough time to horse around.There are simply other factors like aging itself. Camping on a thin matress outdoors; spontaneously going on a bender; staying up all night talking and/or fucking - those are all things that are simply physically a lot less taxing on a twenty year old than a thirty year old. I'm 31 and already there is a divide between my friends where roughly half the people find stuff like drinking, camping, driving hours on end (to get to a place cheap/fast) etc so physically draining and straining that they cannot possibly have fun that way. Basically you can live an adult life where you party a lot (even a LOT if you really want to), but it is always measured, you always know when to take time off. A lot of young people are specifically into impulsive stuff or they change their mind so fast about what they want that planning a crazy adventure a week in advance is a contradiction to them. I get that you don't look at your friends and feel they are proper adults all the way. But I do think it's possible to party hard and be a responsible adult for all intents and purposes - it just still isn't what most young people do and want.
>>32341870Don't. I need as many willing white guys to hit on as possible.
Its over.
>>32341876all the previous replies prove you wrong
>>32341894
>>32341897JH <3
Hi guys how are you
Whats the lore on sweet‘n‘low? Why the name? How can she be recognized? What names has neuro posted under? I remember just a lily.
>>32341860Are you the perfect woman? Do you think the man you want, would want you or can he do better?
>>32341897Nice, unless JH (who should be at work) then, not nice
>>32341904Go to /soc/ nigger.
Anyone else work with all boomers? Will this fuck me up in some way?
>>32341903Fuck you
>>32341903Not bad. Hungry. Gonna buy a sandwich when I get to work. How about you?
>>32341905Probably not. And I don't begrudge the perfect man his solitude. If he is more content alone than with me then that's the way it should be.
>>32341897You never hit on me
>>32341907Make me.
All the leaves are brown And the sky is greyI went for a walkOn a winters day
Holy fuck I am so mad why do I leak pre cum so easy
>>32341896>drunk frat guysThere are definitely some guys out there partying it up in their 20s too, but overall the average seems to be that women in their 20s just have a lot more time and disposable income than their male peers, and a lot of guys don't reach a parity in resources until like 30, hence why you have all of these 30 year olds doing this stuff. As far as being "adults" most of these guys are not partying to the same level as a 20 year old would/could, they're all to my knowledge pretty diligent and always make sure family and work obligations are fulfilled, but in their free time they're going to go off and do things that women our age find immature, and I think a big part of it is just trying to recover what they feel like they missed out on.
>>32340664erotic?I'm a cuck and like watching my husband fuck girls, and occasionally join in. Finding a third that isn't disgusting or mentally ill is the hardest thing, so we stick with ones that at least aren't disgustingNon erotic?I just want a full larpsteading farm. Oh god if I could have highland cows and some wool sheep. But they are so impractical.
>>32341908Not all but I used to work in a small office where I mostly interacted a lot with my boomer boss. In my experience it's fine. Yeah there will sometimes be a generational divide, but that is also helpful, you simply will have to work with a lot of older people so getting more of a feeling for a certain generation is just useful.Also do not underestimate that the fact that boomers are so retarded with technology means gen x/millennials/zoomers have marketable skills they don't even think of that way. My boss was a successful lawyer with decades of experience and yet he never stopped fawning over me "printing the screen" expertly. To the point where I had to tell him to stfu about that on call and not interrupt a business meeting to yell out to me to "come print the screen" because it makes you look fucking retarded!!!!Yes there are downsides too.
>>32341917It's fall
>>32341606Very detailed and helpful, thanks anon>If you live in bumfuck AlabamaNope, I'm an europoor just like you
>>32341913What makes you think the perfect man will be alone kek
>>32341890A couple days agoI think it hits harder because i've been experiencing a lot of nonresponse lately is all
>>32341926Because he's perfect? Not settling? If he really is perfect then what makes you think he'd find someone tolerable?
Gf just admitted that she used to attend Diddy parties. I was going to ask her to marry me next week..
>>32341919>and I think a big part of it is just trying to recover what they feel like they missed out on.Well, good for them, seems like a good way to reduce the risk of a mid life crisis at some point.That said I think the real difference is not that women have more disposable income or time (if anything the women I knew in uni had much more commitments) but more that they are more likely to have friends they can tag along with. If you're a guy in his early twenties and you are awkward and shy and friends with two other guys who are also awkward and shy, what are the three of you going to do together? Women flock together more and this means the most reserved/shy ones are persuaded or bullied to join. Of course this does not apply to everyone, women who miss out on all this stuff definitely exist too, but I think this is why they are less common.
>>32341929There are women of much higher quality than you out there. He'll find one of them, with ease.
>>32341902Emoticons should be bannable.>>32341906Why not nice?>>32341914Well maybe I would if you posted dick stats and your opinions on buttstuff. You've given me nothing else to work with besides calling you whitey.
>>32341856Don't let the nofappers know about the danger of old sperm on having children kek
>>32341927>lot of nonresponse lately is allthere is a boycott against men recently
>>32341927It happens. Just try not to sweat it too much. A lot of people just like the anonymity and don't want to get too personal with us.
>>32341936My dick stats will not help my caseObsessed with girl butt though
>>32341939get off of social media and touch grass
>>32341942Post. The. Stats.
How much of an ick is for a man to be a loner without a social circle?
>>32341935Ok then he can date them?Is this a man thing? Hating people who have it better than you instead of minding your own business? If he's happy great. I'm still not going to settle for a guy I don't find attractive who annoys me just to be in a relationship it makes no sense.
She's helping
>>32341939Aside from this anon, it's been women I've known since before the election>>32341941Yeah, that's probably it
>>32341947Pretty big if it's literally non-existent. Having a few close friends you do things with once in a while is plenty, though.
>>32341936NTA2 inch toad chode flaccid, grows to around 6.5 to 7 inch depending on degree of arousal.>buttstuffGiving? I think it sounds really hot, only time I tried it was when I was inexperienced.Receiving? Not compatible with me.
>>32341947For me, not an ick in the sense it would weird me out or turn me off. It would mean we are extremely unlikely to be compatible, though, as friendship is extremely important in my life and I need to be with someone who understands and ideally feels the same way.
>>32341945Like maybe 3.5 inches at peak and pencil, never bothered measuring girth for a real number
>>32341947Like no friends at all?Or do you have 2. If you have 2 I can make it work.
>>32341954Nice dick. Also giving, of course. Guy butts to nothing for me besides grabbing them jokingly.
>>32341950Don't feel too bad. I wanted to email with JH but she said no. You've just gotta roll with it.
>>32341919>>32341933Just realized I left out something because it was so obvious to me.>what are the three of you going to do together? Difference also being that three shy guys cannot really go anywhere at all hoping to get easy socializing. Three young shy girls can just stand in a corner and entertain each other until inevitably guys come over and show interest. Or even curious girls looking to meet new people. You have to be a lot less spontaneous and social(ly confident) to have a social life as a young woman in that sense.
>>32341960I mean if it's a no that's fine, but she said she'd email when she woke up so I've been checking my email worried I missed itSaying no is fine by me, it's the nothing that gets me the most
>>32341959Thanks. I've been told it's thick and maybe too much. Bit of a weird two-tone coloration too. I'd show, but I'm shy about posting on /soc/ since I posted my face there before.
>>32341933I 100% think it's a money and resources issue over a friend one, guys have fewer friends in part because we spend our adolescence with less money and time. It's just more socially acceptable for women to take money and help from others, be they family, significant others, or whoever, and there's also a lot more available. Guys also have a lot more "necessary" expenses, like good fucking luck having a social or dating life if you live at home or don't have a car, women on the other hand don't face any significant social barriers from the same. Guys are also not going to get a ton of scholarships or the nicer jobs, my sister had the same GPA as me and got a full ride scholarship, I got to take student loans, she also interned in an office while I spent summers doing manual labor, usually doing landscaping or digging ditches or whatever there was. I don't mean to whine and throw a pity party, because honestly things worked out pretty good for me, but this is the reality of the male vs female experience in your 20s.
>>32341957maybe you have a condition where you didn't hit puberty?
I wrote that bitch a compiler.Bitches love compliers.
>>32341963In that case, it's possible she genuinely just forgot. I've had that happen before. If you notice her again, just say hi and chat a bit.
>>32341957That's almost a medical condition
>>32341957I hope you don't let your perceived issue with your dick's stats ruin intimacy for you. Worrying about it that way is the worst, especially if it keeps you from getting turned on.
>>32341960Emailing is stupid anyways. You just want to try and drag nudes out of me.
>>32341958I had two close friends but they both live abroad and rarely see them.I also have a bunch of old friends from high school I hang out with once every bunch of months. Quite weak I know.
>>32341964>maybe too muchDepending on girth, probably. But there's always some way to make things work in bed.
>>32341948The point is that a perfect man by definition is not going to be alone. In your initial reply said he'd be in solitude because he wasnt with you, which is typical female delusion thing you all have, you actually believe these lies because the truth would make you mad.This is what the movie "Mulholland Drive" was about too.
>>32341975Meh. It's a necessity that the guy I date have a couple of friends because I don't have any to invite us to stuff. It's not like I think he's a monster if he doesn't have them. Being an adult is hard.
>>32341977If he is truly perfect then yes I do believe he'd be in solitude because he would be unwilling to settle. It's not a difficult thing to wrap your head around you're just making yourself look stupid.
>>32341967Bro I wish I didn't hit puberty, that woulda been greatI'm 6'1, broad shouldered, aggressively balding, so I think I hit pubertyAlso a pretty low voice>>32341971Is there even a treatment for that though>>32341972It honestly has annihilated my mental state regarding intimacy. Even if I had a gf I wouldn't want to take my pants off around her
>>32341974No. So cynical! I just think you're neat and we'd get along well.
>Want to try anal>Dick is quite thick, meaning there's no good way to lightly experiment with it unless I meet a woman who's already into it and has worked her way up with plugs and such>None of my GFs even remotely met that description, no way to ask for anal because there's no way it'd be a good experience for them, asking them to work up with fingers and plugs would be too monumental of a favor to even consider askingLife is suffering.
>>32341974Nta I just want a friend I can chat with about stuffMaybe it goes somewhere maybe it doesn't If we haven't been edating for months I'll be put off by nudes
>>32341966>guys have fewer friends in part because we spend our adolescence with less money and time.I went to a high school where everyone was -at least- upper middle class and still it was starkly obvious that guys had fewer friends, because they would be overwhelmingly more interested in solo hobbies (video games, mostly) over social hobbies. I can think of three guys from my class alone who never wanted to meet up with anyone after school because they'd lose their ranking in a game. These were guys that were popular in school time too and had no trouble socializing, just preferred spending their time alone.>It's just more socially acceptable for women to take money and help from othersI have never even heard of parents giving money to their daughter and not their son. Nor - again as someone who did see a bit of the privileged world - did I ever feel there was a social stigma for male uni students, if anything it was expected and assumed that your parents gave you money, boys included. Most of the rest just does not apply to where I live. Hardly anyone gets a scholarship, hardly anyone has a car until >25 also becasue public transport is just faster and easier. Nowadays it is common for people to move out later but back when I did (in 2011) it was still only like 1 in 10 who did not move out at eighteen. Clearly you live in a different place and I'm not trying to say your observations don't apply there. I just whole-heartedly do not recognize them at all. If anything I do see that if you are actually broke as a woman, it is a lot easier to still party/have fun. I did a lot of hitchhiking with a superhot friend when we could not afford another mode of travel and there is no way that would have been feasible if we had been a couple or two guys. There are also always thirsty guys happy to pay for your drinks or entrance fee if they feel there might be something in it for them. That is undeniable.
>>32341983>If he is truly perfect then yes I do believe he'd be in solitude because he would be unwilling to settleif he's not a delusional childish perfectionist like me he's not perfect
>>32341984Not all medical conditions are treatable. They're still medical conditions tho.You wouldn't say "I have no medical conditions" if you have an inoperable tumor that hasn't responded to chemo.
>>32341983And like I said. He won't settle. He'd find the perfect woman. A woman much better than you.
>>32341991I suppose that's true, but I guess to me that just means it doesn't matter if it's a medical condition or not. It's not like saying that will suddenly change a girl's standards
>>32341987Bring it up and ask her to incorporate the toys into sex. Just because she does not love the idea on paper, doesn't mean she will hate the sensation itself, all the more if you only introduce it once she's sopping wet, maybe already came once and so on. You can combine it with stuff she likes (certain dirty talk or roleplay, anything).Yeah don't give her "homework" and ask her to train her asshole for your dick. That's not going to make anyone eager. But that's not the only option.
>>32341990What triggered you here? Do you think you're perfect?And what exactly do you think the delusion is here?I am being offered a hostess cupcake and a pile of dirt. Obviously one is better than the other but I don't want a cupcake right now and I'm not hungry. Keeping my pocket change adds more value to my life than getting the cupcake just because it's the only available palatable option. Is this why people get fat? They think they HAVE to take something?
>>32341993>He'd find the perfect woman.Not her but it is pretty clear what men think is the perfect woman, which is (a gorgeous and kind and bla bla) a woman who remains forever young. Aka one that does not exist. Men are deeply disappointed by nature alone.
>>32341993Good for him!You're the one that seems to be bothered by people not being miserable?
>>32341997So the perfect man doesn't exist.>Men are deeply disappointed by nature alone.You'll find its the other way around. Two women here have said they want a perfect man, ive never heard a man say he wants the perfect woman.
>>32341974Why are you afraid to be liked for who you are?
>>32341989Different life experiences I guess.>There are also always thirsty guys happy to pay for your drinks or entrance fee if they feel there might be something in it for them. That is undeniableYeah, that was kind of what always put me off from the club scene at any age, even now it's always kind of funny to me how there are girls who meet guys at clubs and then wonder why their bfs never want to go to them anymore, they're expensive and unpleasant for men, we only go there because of the women lol.
>>32341987>unless I meet a woman who's already into it and has worked her way up with plugs and suchThis is a good thing, she's far more likely to enjoy it and want it more if she's into it on her own.If she's never done it, and she's just doing it to please you, it's a gamble, especially if you don't know what you are doing"I just want to try it" types are likely to have a bad timeYou need to go hard or go home
>>32342002>the perfect man doesn't existNta but yeah. Exactly. I'm holding out for perfect and perfect isn't real so I'm preparing for cats and to take a lot of baths.
>>32341980That's funny because I'm the same as youI'd love to find a very social gf with a bunch of friends we can do social stuff with
>>32342000Not at all. Given your social maladjustment, it is clear you should work on being a better judge of character.
>>32342010You seem insistent on trying to upset me over something. This doesn't seem healthy. I really think you're the one with the problem here bud.
>>32342005Understandable, but most women also are there hoping to meet guys or because one of their friends DOES really enjoy it there. It is also a certain kind of person who doesn't mind or even likes knowing someone is hanging around you hoping for more. Plenty of women would prefer to sit at home not being bothered and just watching dumb movies with their friends. But does it happen, absolutely yeah.
>>32342002>So the perfect man doesn't exist.I agree. What does "perfect" even mean? Someone who never disappoints you and always makes you happy? But that is not a perfect partner, a perfect partner can call you out on shit too, can help you grow. It is a dumb and lame term.
>>32342007And im sure you definitely will not continue to seek attention from men and date men and subtly break them for failing to meet your expectations.
>>32342015You created a Boogeyman in your mind again kiddo. I haven't dated in 4 years.
>>32342011You're nobody sorry, i am being honest in my concerns for your wellbeing
>>32342007hypergamy wins again
>>32341997>the perfect woman is forever young!Yes because no man has ever loved or lusted after a woman his age or older before lol.
>>32341997I want a woman who blooms into a delicious fucking MILF thankyou ever much
>>32342014Yep I agree, i think people who think like this are mentally children and are extremely immature. Like the person im talking to rn is a vulnerable narcissist, it's textbook stuff really.Really you love people with flaws and the flaws are an important aspect of that love. Whether its physical imperfection, like a mole or something, or something else, like some personality quirk. People who unironically want perfect are just...odd
>>32342014I think "perfect man" means "serves me and flatters my ego" or something like that
Women owe me
>>32342021>>32342022Fair additions, but there is no denying there is an obsession with female youth. I cannot tell you how often I have been watching a movie with a guy (my father or uncle, a male friend, a boyfriend, doesn't even matter) and hear a>*sigh* she used to be so hotcomment out of nowhere regarding some actress. Not to mention small stuff like if you pay attention you will see if a famous person died, the picture in their obituary for a man is always the best (relatively) recent picture, for a woman it is virtually always (except for when she only got famous late in life) from when she was in her physical "prime", somewhere 20-40, even if she lived to 105.
>>32342006>You need to go hard or go homeThat's the frustrating thing. I'm not interested in it enough to "go hard". It's not a big kink of mine, it's not a priority, it's not something I even look at porn of. I'm just curious, and because of that, I'll probably never get to experience it.
>>32342025Fully agree and I wish to add that it is all the more jarring because it is so obvious that when people develop real feelings (whether romantic or just deep sexual feelings), it is never the most "perfect" aspects of their partner they hyperfocus on. It is never the perfect jawline that gets you. It is their subconscious tic or the one freckle or the way they snortlaugh. It is not what makes them perfect but what makes them THEM.
>>32342033And women are obsessed with male status. That's the real world for you
When yall get mad u turn redWhen u get sick you turn greenWhen u is scared its called yellow But you wanna call US colored? Lol
>>32342037>That's the real world for youWell yes, I was just saying you are delusional if you think men do not (collectively, even if not every single male individual) yearn for women that do not age like women do.
>>32342036Yep. Congrats you're a normal human being. I really wonder how deranged you have to be to not get this.
>>32342033I still think Helen Mirren is hot as fuck I also would prefer pictures of me when I'm young, but I imagine that has more to do with how we value men and women - men are valued for success and women are valued for beauty.
>>32342030*own
>>32342044I mean sure, I was not trying to say women do not value some things in men excessively, there are counterparts. But a woman can get with a man who is and remains successful and a man cannot get with a woman who is and remains young. So in that sense a man having his perfect woman is impossible in the first place, at least if we run with the "perfect woman" as shown in movies and romance novels and what not, forever fresh and naïve and eager and smooth.
>>32342041You are saying here that women value youthfulness. Oops. Freudian slip there. Be careful in the next battle of the great gender war!
I owe women (rimjobs)
>>32342048Yes, ma'am..
>>32342043Deranged or just super super inexperienced. I think that also ties into it for a lot of people. They legitimately don't realize how feelings change everything.
>>32342054Go back to the office and make me a fortune. Moid.
>>32342041nobody desires to ageperfection does not exist because everything is temporaryeven success
>>32342051Kek, no, it's just an unhinged sentence.>men (...) yearn for women that do not age like women doOr maybe it should've been *as women do? Either way, they yearn for women that do not age the way women (being human) simply do.
>>32342060This is just a very dumb thing to keep hammering on and on about
>>32342059Nobody desires to age themselves, no, because it is associated with pain, discomfort, time running out and all that stuff. But that's not the same as being disappointed with your partner aging physically or being less attracted to them for that reason.
>>32340662I love restricting women’s movement during sex, pinning their wrists, grabbing their ankles, and pulling hair
>>32342061That sums up just about the whole internet.
>>32342062I think you should just stop writing posts. This is embarrassing.
>>32342060It's okay, you let your subconscious slip a little but im not going to ignore it.In any case, as I said, its the exact same thing with women when it comes male status.
Women, were you ever in a child-free mindset? Am I delusional to date someone who is unsure about having kids at mid 20s expecting her to change?
What would be the best and worst fast food gf's? For me, >best: CFA gf>worst: any fried chicken gf
>>32342057>They legitimately don't realize how feelings change everything.Im sure on some level they do. It's why its deranged to be looking for "perfect" after the age of 20.They expect those initial feelz to never subside, to just stay like that forever. So they fantasise about the "perfect" person. In reality, theyre not talking about an actual person. To them, people are merely extensions of themselves, they dont exist independently, they exist for them. Which like i said, is why its mostly the deranged and actual narcissists who think like this.
>>32342017>nobody>concerns for your well-beingPick 1>>32342019I am genuinely sorry I prefer the company of alcohol and small creatures who can't talk over men
>>32342065Noted.>>32342066I don't blame you for not keeping track of this mess of posts at all, but I was the anon also saying I do not believe in the concept of some perfect partner anyway and I think both men and women looking for perfection are on the road to disillusionment. It was just comical to me to see another anon go on and on about some mythical perfect woman when the perfect woman is shown a lot and she is not anyone a live person can live up to ever. That's all.
>>32342068I think subway gf and ihop gf are top tier
>>32342067Yeah, I wanted to have babies and be a mom since I was 8.
>>32342058But I’m on lunch break..
>>32342062Overwhelmingly it seems to me that women are the ones who lose sexual attraction to their spouses in middle age, so maybe men aren't the ones who need this lecture lol.
>>32342067>Am I delusional to date someone who is unsure about having kids at mid 20s expecting her to change?Yes. It's not impossible, but actually expecting her to at that age, especially if she has never wanted kids earlier in life, absolutely is delusional and setting yourself up for heartbreak.
>>32342067>unsure at mid 20sIs she unsure or is she child free and you're expecting her to change her mind?
>>32342077>taking breaksThis is not how you make a fortune anon. Back to the grind you go!
>>32342068Best: shake shack gfWorst: taco bell gf
>>32342072>it was just comical to me to see another anon go on and on about some mythical perfect woman when the perfect woman is shown a lot and she is not anyone a live person can live up to ever. Kek, not a single anon has said they wanted a perfect woman, meanwhile 2 anons have said they want the perfect man. You're straight up making things up now after your freudian slip.
I never feel women's aura while I feel men's aura 95% of the time.maybe the spiritual world is sexist?
>>32342087No thats just you.
>>32342070I guess the difference is just how hopeful/optimistic you are. I had a phase of fantasizing about a "perfect guy" as a teen. Which really meant no more than "someone who always understands me wordlessly, is never frustrated by me, finds literally everything about me cute/endearing/special"... basically someone who is not actually another person. Despite cherishing this idea for some time, it was easy for me to let go once I developed feelings for my first real person and realized just how empty and shallow my echo chamber fantasies had been. I hope this is or will be a common experience for many growing up...
>>32342087>maybe the spiritual world is sexist?Metaphysically, that's the nature of lunar vs solar energy
>>32342086I was referring to >>32341905>>32341993Did not follow the convo before that.
>>32342084It’s already over for me. I only find spiritual wholeness in gooning and video game consumables. I have just enough money to afford a wife who cucks me, thats it
>>32342091humiliation ritual
>>32342087female occult and spiritual stuff usually sucks, when men have schizo breakdowns and create a religion it's usually somewhat interesting or at least entertaining, see the history of the Middle East.
>>32342094You have to start small. Maybe she will force you to make something out of you to make her proud.
>>32342082she WAS childfree
>>32341787This is how the modern woman thinks, men only exist insofar as they serve her egoistic desires.
>>32342097>just dateTaking the mick again. Fuck off fakecel.
>>32342092Yes. Im talking to a woman here.
>>32340662Women,I have a few non problematic bumps on my scrotum, they’re small but noticeable. Is this a turnoff?
>>32342102How did you get from "I do not want to be dependent on a man" to "I want a man to serve my egoistic desires"?
>>32342094I'm too old to understand modern porn trends, like what the hell is this gooning thing you young people are into? Jerking off to the idea of jerking off to porn? Is this some inception bullshit? It's a hat on a hat, like what's the point?
I get really anxious about having to bother people even if it's just normal things like asking coworkers questions that I feel are annoying or inane. I've realized dating is basically just the process of repeatedly annoying different people until one of them doesn't find you annoying. I'm going to die alone, anons.
>>32340662Why do women get angry, when you presume their overemotional behavior is due to menstruation?
>>32342089As a guy, I often fantasized about being in a relationship, about what it would be like for a woman to like me, enjoy spending time with me, and indulge in hobbies with me. I never built up a specific "ideal woman" in my head.That said, my first relationships (which didn't happen until my mid-20s) made me realize how shallow those fantasies were. Dating a person means dating an entire, whole-ass person, with their own feelings and thoughts and activities. It's not about what she can do for me, or which relationship itches she can scratch. Dating a person means they bring a bunch of stuff to the table that I'd never thought about or considered before, and that broadening of perspective makes dating a real person so much more worthwhile than the fantasies, even if I could make the fantasies come true.
>>32342087Spiritually speaking the burden of motherhood is so severe on men that they are essentially attached to the material world, whereas men have the freedom to look up to the stars and contemplate higher existence.You'll notice when are permanently burdened with immediate "needs", constantly anxious about the security of their child, real or hypothetical. theyre basically always miserable and insecure, constantly testing their man if hes competent enough to ensure her survival. Really sad existence desu, no amount of trying to equalise things in their favour can change this condition.
>supervisor told me yesterday she'd been given the OK from HR to extend me the verbal offer for a promotion>really fucking paranoid that she might be trying to mess me around I won't be reporting to her anymore and we'll now have the same boss. How do I ask my new boss if this is legit and solid without seeming like I don't trust my peers?Should I just be like>Hey I just got the good news, can I start moving stuff into my new office?
>>32342102No, we just saw how that worked out for out mothers, our grandmothers and our great-grandmothers. Not learning from their bad experiences so we can avoid repeating them would be a sign that we are not fit to be alive.
>Why not nice?We just dont seem to align on many things, nothing personal
>>32342085>Worst: taco bell gfimagine the braps
>>32342111I probably should have read your comments with more snark but as I said they just caught my eye in passing and seeing >perfect womanwas laughable to me because it is so obvious that the ideal woman departs from biology itself. Rather than being a specific kind of woman. Women who look for a perfect men are no less deluded and I would not bet money on whether men or women overall have more delusional desires for their respective partners.
>>32342113My post was not solely derived from what you happened to write today.>>32342123Picyou are not being honest with yourself.
>>32342112Nobody cares. Genitals are weird. Discoloration, irritation from chaving/shaving/ingrown hairs and all that happens. Balls are already pretty odd looking in any case. (For the record, so are labia.) No one is going to inspect your dick/ballsack skin with a microscope.
>>32342125Which means taco bell gf is best
>>32342118Menstruation is a double edged sword in that it can be used to justify bad behavior and get out of things you don't want to do, but also used to dismiss genuine feelings. Like most things women want to use it one way but not the other. >then gf tries to claim she said something shitty because of her period>look her dead in the eyes and pull up the phone app I use to track it>"Your period was two weeks ago, want to try apologizing for real?"Generally I just assume a woman acting irrationally is just irrational, I've never noticed any uptick in weird behavior in any of the women I've tracked over the years so I just don't consider it as a factor when dealing with someone. >ew you're a creepperhaps, but this needed to be studied impartially
>>32342129Nice cope anon.
>>32342101Was child free and now is unsure?Hope is there but do you want to waste time on hope or pick a sure thing. Pick which is more important to you. Her, or kids.
>>32342096Female "occult" and woowoo spirituality is most of the time purely concerned with material or earthly gain - "Manifesting a perfect bf", etc.Notice how all religions, traditions, philosophical schools were started by men.
>>32342122Why are you suspicious about it?
>>32342125No thanks>>32342132Incorrect and wrong-pilled
>>32340662Women into men,You’re tied to the bed with your legs up and a dozen men take turns fucking you from 10 in the morning to 10 at night, as soon as one cums the next one enters and by the time they’ve all gone the first guy will be ready again. This process repeats for the full 12 hours except for 4 bathroom/water breaks and an hour lunch break where they all eat food and watch tv in the room with you. They’re respectful but a bit rough and only use your vagina.Thoughts?
>>32342134regurgitate more pop culture social media messaging for me
>>32342121women really rarely have a completely different personality than majority of women. they rarely think for themselves so talking to women feels like talking to a robot or NPC
>>32342140No sorry, I don‘t want to imitate you.
I really hope english-speaking women are just especially bad an it's not this terrible everywhere else.
>>32342142Thats just because none of them feels safe to be authentic with you, so you only get the generic NPC small talk facade.
>>32342139Ow
>>32342127Nobody has said they wanted a perfect woman. I said femanon's so-called "perfect man" would find a "perfect woman". Interesting that the femanons wanting a perfect man didnt catch your eye, because hypergamy is so normalised.You're doing all this to hide the obvious; it is women who want "perfect man" because women are hypergamous. So hypergamous that they'd constantly beat men over with a stick telling them "well if i cant find mr perfect ill just be alone" as if we care.
>>32342143I just feel bad for you after that one, eesh
>>32342118I can explain this!Imagine you have a bad day and someone (housemate, partner, family, doesn't matter) does something that makes you feel really really really annoyed, small, undervalued etc.Then this person looks you in the eye and goes>what's wrong? did you not get any sleep last night or what? implying you are being irrational, wrong and the only reason you feel bad is because you are in a foul mood.The thing is - this is quite possible. People get hangry, annoyed from being tired, and yes cranky from menstruating ALL the time. Still, right when you are in the middle of your frustration is absolutely not the moment you want anyone to suggest that you are just overreacting. It will only make you more angry. After you slept or ate something, yes, then you can probably sheepishly admit you were. But you want to draw that conclusion yourself and not for someone to jump to the conclusion for you. All of this, and then add that menstruation in the past has been often used as an excuse to view women as less stable/autonomous/reliable ("how can be have a female president, what happens if she gets her period at the wrong time").
>>32342136>Notice how all religions, traditions, philosophical schools were started by men.At the end of the day all these religious men, gurus and grand wizards are just as powerful (in a magical/occult sense) as some 14 year old fat tumblr girl casting a spell to get her boyfriend to call her. And that's the joke.
>>32342150How empathetic of you anon. Good job!
>>32342142Yeah the hivemind conditioning is ingrained in them. Most are incapable of actual deep talk
>>32342151>All of this, and then add that menstruation in the past has been often used as an excuse to view women as less stable/autonomous/reliableeven women think this way about other women, and it goes beyond menstruation.Men are more reliable because most of their value in society relies on being good at something.
>>32340662True or false?Married women own their husbands and married men own their wives
>>32342147Anon, you are reading way too deeply into this. In general I pay less attention to female reading/seeming posts on here, especially when they are replies, because it is a thread specifically for addressing the opposite sex. Also if I disagree with a woman, that's that, obviously she and i just look at things differently. The odds that I can actually offer insight into something she does not know yet is a lot smaller than for a given guy on here.
>>32342151>how can be have a female president, what happens if she gets her period at the wrong timeCompletely valid concern, it's horrible that men are forced to be around women during this demonic time
I genuinely wonder where this idea of women being the "empathetic gender" comes from, when they struggle immensely with understanding the thought processes of people who deviate from their own.Compassionate? Sympathetic? Perhaps, but certainly not empathetic.
>>32342159No im reading into it fine, because "perfect" fantasy is mostly women behaviour for reasons ive outlined that you ignored but you chose to make it gendered.
>>32342157>even women think this way about other womenSome do, yes, because they grow up in a culture that prefers men and they want in. That's the whole pick me/cool girl spiel. Some people deal with feeling their group is seen as less than by trying to become "one of the good ones" in the eyes of others. Historically the value of men was mostly in their willingness to take risks and sacrifice themselves. Not much more glamorous than being a vessel for babies honestly.
Im going to have sex soon Any tips? How do I make a guy feel good? How do I make sure I like it too?
>>32342158M true My penis, Her choice
>>32342161Yeah it's strange. Try to have a discussion with a woman and her first instinct is always to talk about herself, her own anecdote, women think their experience is literally objective reality. This is the exact opposite of empathy.Men are the ones capable of empathy, the idea of justice, fairness, structured rules etc all came from male brained thinking.
>>32342161Oh we understand perfectly well. Just because we don‘t do what you want does not mean we don‘t know what you want.
>>32342161>I genuinely wonder where this idea of women being the "empathetic gender" comes from, when they struggle immensely with understanding the thought processes of people who deviate from their own.What does this even mean? Can you give an example where women struggle to understand the thought process of people who deviate from their own?
>>32342169>Try to have a discussion with a woman and her first instinct is always to talk about herselfMost men do this too anon. That's normal human behavior. It's called "relating to the other person".
>>32342151>Then this person looks you in the eye and goes>>what's wrong? did you not get any sleep last night or what?Not getting enough sleep is entirely the reason for my foul moods though.
>>32342163I just chose to make a cynically fleeful observation in passing I really regret now. >that you ignoredThe hypergamy claim? What do you want me to say to that? How do you want me to prove half of mankind is not only into the top 20% of men? I have been through that discussion a million times and there is no winning it. I remember before I ever entered a relationship I would sometimes post "I don't care if a guy is tall/rich I would date anyone" only to be buried in "you're saying that now dumb whore, guess why it's hypothetical, because you will end up dating the 6'2 guy in practice". Now I can actually say I am not dating a "Chad" by any means but there is no point either because people will come up with stuff to make it fit their narrative and if all else fails they just tell you you're lying.So not a productive convo there.
>>32342169>Men are the ones capable of empathy,Can you explain how the gender who commits 95% of animal torture, rape and abuse is the empathic gender? This has been statistically documented. When men and women work with animals it's almost only men who torture and physically abuse them. How is this possible with empathy?
>>32342165>Some do, yes, because they grow up in a culture that prefers men and they want in.You are beyond out of touch. You do not live in a culture that "prefers men" in the 21st century, lmaoWhat's actually happened is that women have been led to believe that they need to discard femininity and compete with men.>pick meI'm really trying to take you seriously but I can't if you continue with this language.
>>32342167watch a dick sucking tutorial and try not to sound goofy while doing dirty talk
>>32342133they also hate it when you keep track of their cycles for some reasonI don't get it, they just want to have their cake and eat it too
>>32340662Any women into kidnap roleplay?
>>32342087>picAs essentially an incel it's infuriating to see she shit women will put up with in other people but somehow I'm worse than those people who cheat on their partners, or literally beat them.Obviously those things aren't okay, and I blame the men's behavior way more than the women for not leaving them but it's still kind of psychologically blackpilling that women think I'm worse than a violent wifebeater just because I'm weird or whatever.
>>32342174Nope. Men can be abstract and look outside of themselves much easier. Women immediately go to anecdotes and project that as reality. It's not called "relating to another person". Your personal experience is by definition not relatable. It's called "solipsism". Go look it up.
>>32342175That's my point though, it is not that the suggestion is hurtful that not sleeping enough can put you in a foul moud. What is hurtful to most people is that right when you are feeling sad and angry, THEN someone will suggest that all your feelings can be tracked down to not getting enough sleep (and not their asshole comment). Especially if you indeed already are usntable and irritable, the chance you will feel attacked and invalidated is higher than that you will calm down on the spot and go, huh, you're right. Especially for young people. You need to calm down first.
>>32342151>("how can be have a female president, what happens if she gets her period at the wrong time").well, no woman who still menstruates has ever ran over presidency in USA
>>32342186>up to 75% of people diagnosed with narcissistic personality disorder are men
WomenThoughts on guys who prefer tea over coffee?
>>32342186Yeah that's how normal conversations go"Ugh our roof is leaking""Oh man that happened to us last summer and it cost $7000 to fix what are you in for?" It's just a conversation.
>>32342177Just did explain it. Justice, fairness, rules etc all came from men. I assume you're a vegan right?
>>32342152Well, the gurus and holy men managed to raise armies and enact their will upon their fellows, and thousands of years later they're being invoked by important men and women doing important things. Not saying that's proof of anything spiritual, but as far as utility it's pretty clear that the female centered religions just don't accomplish anything at a social or personal level. From a theological standpoint my criticism of the nu-age pagan stuff is that it's super solipsistic and it's a worldview that caters entirely to women who live lives of comfort, most successful religions have universal tenets and at least attempt to address all of mankind in some way. /x/ stuff for women begins and ends at women, women apparently spontaneously create life and therefore hold all moral authority, Romans 9:21 except instead of an all knowing god shaping the world it's just some random woman who's never so much as had a callus.
Where and when do women in their mid 20s hang out?Even if I had the courage to approach them I have no clue where I could meet someone, I have no friend to go out with or that could introduce me to their acquaintances.
Why do men rarely self-reflect how CRINGE they are? I work in a community with men and women and I noticed that even fairly smart and successful men are completely oblivious how cringe their actions are to everyone around them especially women. Like total 100% oblivious, they just think they are cool.
>>32342195How do you know they haven't reflected and decided they don't care?
>>32340662I need to rail a smug woman until she becomes timid
Women, how would you feel wearing it in public?
>>32342191"women often get into relationships with narcissistic men""well i've never been in a relationship with one so thats not true!"It's called solipsism.
>>32342192>Justice, fairness, rules etc all came from men.What do you mean they came from men? Who tells you that women had no concept of being fair and just to people before men "came up with it"? You mean that men everywhere were in power and didn't allow women to contribute intellectually and in the law?> I assume you're a vegan right?Nope, I'm not anymore but I believe women are also 3x more likely to be vegan. I do hate the meat industry though but I have given up. I don't go out of my way to torture animals personally though, that's 95% men if the case. You know those cat and dog torture rings around the globe and when they catch people involved or paying for the stuff? It's almost always men. Women never or VERY RARELY seek this type of deranged brutality.
>>32342195>>32342198This, I know i'm cringe, but it's more fun for me to do the things I like than to care if other people think I'm cringe
>>32342200I would feel like a retard.
>>32342199Anon, it works the other way around
>>32342200Gonna wear this even though I'm a man
>>32342201You see how your example is different right? In my example the conversation was brought back to the person who originally complained by asking them a question.Are you autistic?
>>32342204You are a retard though
>>32342195What did they do that you thought was cringe?
>>32342198>>32342203>How do you know they haven't reflected and decided they don't care?It's men with crushes who try to impress me and get my favor but I can't help but die inside when I see just the complete lack of self awareness when they do cringe shit. Because when I ever call it out they STOP and seem disturbed like they had no idea, so it's clearly not "Oh I know I just don't care"
>>32342179>You are beyond out of touch. You do not live in a culture that "prefers men" in the 21st century, lmaoI get what you are saying in a way, it is undeniable that there is a lot more overt positivity (at least in mainstream media) about women/femininity than men.But that is a recent and very visible trend. I am talking about stuff like that every kid <10 means that hearing you did something "like a (real) boy/men" is positive (like a girl being able to run like a guy) and doing anything "like a girl" is negative. Why do you think that is? Why do you think any female dominated hobby, like make up or simple arts/crafts, is faced with complete disdain? There are power dynamics at play and they go in all directions. There is stigma and discrimination against men AND women. I would argue nowadays it is an easier time to be a young woman (in a secular Western country) than a young guy. That does not change that the stuff associated with men is seen as a lot cooler and more desirable than vice versa.>What's actually happened is that women have been led to believe that they need to discard femininity and compete with men.This is actually part of misogyny, that when we think of a successful/"strong" woman, she essentially ticks off the boxes for a man. This is why some feminists go way overboard with "trying to live in synch with my cycle" and stuff like that to go the other direction and live in their femininity or whatever. Either way women trying to adapt masculine qualities IS out of love for masculine qualities. >I'm really trying to take you seriously but I can'tOkay, good talk so far anyway, have a good night or whatever is left for you.
>>32342172Look at women's advice to men in dating, or their advice to men in general.Look at how discussions about dangerous men and how women need to look after themselves - it often devolves into "teach men not to xyz" or rhetoric that "wow so all men are just dangerous animals", completely incapable of understanding the mindset of the criminal type.You can often tell a woman is a bit mentally ill when they speak as if they genuinely feel and believe that any man can just snap and kill them for no reason.
>>32342205I like taming brats
>>32342185That doesn't make sense as a mindset. Men "inferior" to you in every metric you can imagine have found somebody. You are not uniquely repellant to women. People have to be able to see your good qualities to like you. What are you doing to make those qualities known?
>>32342210AutismLearn to find it endearing or suffer
>>32342210In that case I can't help you, I erase my personality around women I like
>>32342195Men generally don't get feedback about that type of thing.It's one of the biggest reasons I despise the advice of "Just act confident! Fake it 'til you make it!" for socially-awkward guys. If a guy has no idea what it's like to feel confident in a social setting, how can he be sure he's doing a reasonable job of "acting confident" and not just coming across like Noel from Frasier?
>>32342171This is like "i am woman hear me rawr" level.It sounded good in your head, but in terms of reflecting reality it is just laughable.
>>32342202Right so despite contributing to the horrors of meat industry you feel obligated to bring it up to take the high horse. Pretty much sums up how fake and surface level your empathy goes.Men on the other hand actually hold strong principles and virtues, and go beyond their egos to ensure this. women's sense of morality changes depending on how they feel at any given time. Women are utterly incapable of looking beyond their own narratives.
>>32342195>successful men are cringe!Yes, because successful men don't care what women think. >>32342202>who told you that women had no concept of fair?Who told me the sky was blue, that flowers smell nice? Some things are just self evident through experience, obligatory "not all" but the overwhelming majority of women are not interested in "fairness" one fucking bit where men almost always are or at least have the decency to try to lie about it if they aren't.
>>32342193>Well, the gurus and holy men managed to raise armies and enact their will upon their fellows, and thousands of years later they're being invoked by important men and women doing important things.Yes, so did atheist communist tyrants and coomer kings. Having power in the physical realm through lying, manipulation and no empathy isn't a magical gift. In the material realm men have been more powerful due to their superior body and strength which they used to beat everyone who disagreed into submission basically.But magically speaking? Most great male occultists were balding coomers who need glasses. And the same for religious leaders. Zero display of actual supernatural ability, just delusion and tyranny. Same magical power level as a fat 14 year old tumblr witch.
>>32342207Conversations dont always have to end with questions. Are you autistic?
>>32342210I usually dont know im being tism till after then i lose sleep remembering it
>>32342137She's mentally unstable.
>>32342225>endYou think that was the end? They're supposed to respond to the question s m hand continue the conversation. You're hopeless.
need a misandrist femanon gf who grudingly tolerates me because I'm sweet and receptive to criticism and fun to talk to
>>32342220>Right so despite contributing to the horrors of meat industry you feel obligated to bring it up to take the high horse. Pretty much sums up how fake and surface level your empathy goes.Why do you pretend that going out of your way to torture and rape animals for fun is the same? Do you think it takes the same lack of empathy to buy a tuna can versus beating a cat into a bloody pit because it turns you on? >Men on the other hand actually hold strong principles and virtues, and go beyond their egos to ensure this.How is being the leading source of pedophilia, abuse, rape and torture worldwide in every culture equal holding strong virtues?>>32342223How is being the leading source of pedophilia, abuse, rape and torture worldwide in every culture equal holding strong virtues and fairness?
>>32342229I also need this
Does being ghosted for a day make you more obsessed with them or less when you like them
>>32342214They're not inferior to me in every metric, women are the ones who decide those metrics, and they've decided I'm inferior to people who will punch them in the face for some reason. I know women irl who stay with partners who blatantly cheat on and are abusive towards them and they refuse to leave. They know there are other options because they either know me personally (fairly well in some cases, to your point about whether women have ever known any of my qualities), or people like me exist, and are unwilling to trade their abusive partners for it.
>>32342232Once with good reason will make me more obsessedLike if she got busy or somethingIf it happens regularly it makes me hate them
>>32342218How old are you that you think Noel is a character people are going to recognize?Or did you mean Niles.
>>32342194Aieeeeeee don't ignore me
>>32342146But think of the stimulation you’d get
>>32342235Based ghosting hater
>>32342229>>32342231I can't tell you how much more attractive your attitude is versus the guys who immediately start screaming and debating women that actually WOMEN ARE WORSE and MEN ARE ANGELS. The latter just gives off neurotic sissy vibes and the former is more laidback and unbothered in a strong way.
>>32341974Shut up and enable my parasocial obsession!!!
>>32342228It is the end of the sentence. Answering then asking a question isnt the only type of conversation. Unfortunately, your autism will prevent you from ever understanding the complexity of conversations if you fail to understand something so basic. Dont think i dont see how you skilfully deflected away from the original conversation either.Ive heard there's this thing called masking that retar- i mean autists can use. try it.
>>32342238I can't help you I'm in my 30s.>>32342240The chaffing you mean? That sounds awful.
>>32342229Real. Need a misandrist girl who I can show I am not like the others. They also are usually pretty intelligent which I find hot.
>>32340662Women deserve lots of orgasms from rough sex
>>32342236Nope, I meant Noel. My wife has been rewatching Frasier lately (it's a comfort show for her), so it was on my mind.
>>32342232lessavoidant attachment is so fucking cringe
>>32342244You respond like this and still don't get that you're the one that doesn't know how to talk like a normal person lmao
>>32342211>I am talking about stuff like that every kid <10 means that hearing you did something "like a (real) boy/men" is positive (like a girl being able to run like a guy) and doing anything "like a girl" is negative. Why do you think that is?Because there's no real concept of a "right of passage" to go from woman to girl, like there is from "boy" to "man".I don't actually recall ever hearing someone say "you x like a boy!!!" like a compliment (that sounds like you'd be calling a girl unfeminine). It's only ever "you run like a girl! to refer to a boy who is falling behind. It's negative because men are meant to be better than women at physical activities like that, that's why we seperate female and male athletics.>Why do you think any female dominated hobby, [...] is faced with complete disdain?I have never seen this.>That does not change that the stuff associated with men is seen as a lot cooler and more desirable than vice versa.I'm not sure I can agree with this. Counterexample, think of being a gamer or nerd in the 2000s was social effluvium, until it became 'cool' to be a gamer and now all normies want in.>This is actually part of misogyny, that when we think of a successful/"strong" womanNo, this is feminist ideological gymnastics and I do not accept it as valid.>, she essentially ticks off the boxes for a man.MEN do not want "successful/strong" women, it's feminists and such types pushing for it in media, and it does not weigh on our attraction for women at all. Women think their own success will improve their attractiveness in men's eyes but it doesn't, it increases her own requirements for a partner.> and stuff like that to go the other direction and live in their femininity or whatever.This is done out of resentment if anything.>IS out of love for masculine qualities.No, it's out of a drive for power and resentment. The "corporate" man is a shadow of masculinity, anyway.
>>32342248Lots of lube
>>32342230>Why do you pretend that going out of your way to torture and rape animals for fun is the same? Do you think it takes the same lack of empathy to buy a tuna can versus beating a cat into a bloody pit because it turns you on?Common thing women do is absolve themselves of their guilt. you lie to yourself, saying that because you didnt do it, its not on your hands. Another reason why you lack empathy.>How is being the leading source of pedophilia, abuse, rape and torture worldwide in every culture equal holding strong virtues?If you're resorting to logical extremes, you've already lost. Not once can you ever argue with the substance, you just resort to extremes. I didnt pull up how you all kill babies, manchausen by proxy, emotional manipulation and machiavellian etc that women disproportionately commit. this is an admission of your loss.
>>32342181I don’t want to suck any dick if I don’t have to
>>32342242>I want a desperate doormat loser man who tolerate my misandry... FUCK men who argue with me!Of course you do, sweety. Can't have a man challenging your delicate ego.Notice how there's never any posts from women saying>"need a misogynist bf who grudingly tolerates me because I'm sweet and receptive to criticism and fun to talk to"!!!
>>32342243Two people talking is social, not parasocial, retard.
>>32342261There are men who don't care for (or even dislike) blowjobs, but I think they're pretty far in the minority. Good luck.
>>32342232Ghosting does make me more obsessed but I mostly express said obsession by getting drunk and listening to sad love songs and imagining what I could have done differently and crying. I assum anyone I'm interested in finds me insufferable to talk to unless they demonstrate otherwise.
>>32342260>Common thing women do is absolve themselves of their guilt. you lie to yourself, saying that because you didnt do it, its not on your hands. Another reason why you lack empathy.You didn't answer the question. Yes or no?Is torturing an animal with your own hands the same level of evil as buying a can of tuna in a store?>If you're resorting to logical extremes, you've already lostIt's not an extreme, it happens everyday, everywhere to millions.A ton of women have had personal experiences with physical abuse or sexual harassment.
>>32342230Women really can't tell the difference between>most criminals are menand >most men are criminalsit's literally the same sentence in their brains
>>32342256You think every sentence in a conversation ends with a question. Sorry, normal people dont do much thinking about "how conversations work" because it just happens, you have to think about it though due to your condition.
>>32342261Then, just put your legs in the air and fuck him. Tell him to go harder or slow down or whatever. Enthusiasm is sexy
>>32342230>men are criminals, how is that fair!? REEENot even related to the topic at hand, look at how women react to any situation, in any conflict with a man and a woman a woman will always side with the woman no matter how ridiculous and untenable her position is. And on the poverty and crime shit with men, this is another great example of where feminism fails at basic notions of fairness and consistency. All things that impact women negatively are assigned to society, anything favoring women which is a positive is praised as their personal choices and achievement. Men get the reverse, anything we achieve is scorned as "privilege" and thanks to society and money must be spent to tear us down in response, any negative statistic about men is attributed to their personal choices so as to absolve those with money and power of responsibility. Whenever a man points this out we get word vomit from the 1960s about the sins of our grandparents or just outright refusal to acknowledge our problems. It is fundamentally unfair.
>>32342242The problem is I don't know how to leverage this into actually getting a date lmao
>>32342263I think he means it's parasocial because he wants to talk to you because you're well-known in these threads, as opposed to wanting to talk to you because of you two actually knowing each other.
>>32342262>Of course you do, sweety. Can't have a man challenging your delicate ego.You just come across as emotional as a woman and I find that unattractive. I think unbothered, laidback men who are unmoved by any screeching are hot and I think men who start arguing back like they're a bitch themselves are too feminine. You can obviously do that as much as you want.
>>32342262Dunno why wanting a misandrist gf means being a doormat. I always argued a lot (lovingly) with the misandrist girls I knew about feminism and stuff. I just took them seriously.
>>32342274I mean it's just part of your attitude and personality? If you talk to a woman and she says men are pigs you have the option to be playful about it and tell her "I agree, they really are... aren't they... " while teasing her or you can be like men ITT "MEN ARE PIGS?? STASTICALLY WOMEN ARE WORSE AND THEY HAVE NO EMPATHY AND ABORTIONS!"
Is a woman being scared of other women due to mommy issues a bad sign
>>32342269>You didn't answer the question. Yes or no?>Is torturing an animal with your own hands the same level of evil as buying a can of tuna in a store?"If i buy the tuna can im not culpable" women logic>It's not an extreme, it happens everyday, everywhere to millions.Nope, it is a logical extreme. The vast majority of men dont do any of this. If we start talking about ordinary women and their mental issues, you'd be caught red handed. So you always divert the conversation to extremes.>A ton of women have had personal experiences with physical abuse or sexual harassment.A ton of men have had personal experiences with mental abuse and manipulation.The difference? when men bring it up women shame them for their weakness. Very very clever indeed, but dont think we dont notice it.
>>32342242That's nice to hear, unfortunately it's pointless to try to express this attitude outside the anonymity of 4chan since it'd just seem disingenuous.
>>32342274That's because women say they want a guy who is one way and actually only date a guy who is a different way.
>>32342242I remember when I said something like this to my boyfriend he agreed and said something along the line that he likes me hating men and why the fuck would he want his girl to like men? He would be okay with all men dying and just me and other women existing. Either way I found it attractive. I don't need a cuck.
>>32342277Great post. Men, tap in. Stop taking women seriously and women will thank you for it.
How do I cope with being ugly?
>>32342283Or just talk with them about Enneagrams. VERY successful method if she is into it.
>>32340662I think most of your gf’s behavior issues can be solved by a good dicking
>>32342234Someone staying in an abusive relationship is not an indictment of your value as a man. That's not how the mechanics of abuse work.
>>32342296getting really good at jerking off.
>>32342230>How is being the leading source of pedophilia, abuse, rape and torture worldwide in every culture equal holding strong virtues and fairness?How is being responsible for the vast majority of inventions, scientific advancement, culture, art, literature, law, order, civilization, architecture, and even the basic maintenance of society equal to holding strong virtues and fairness?Tell me again, what was the sex of the people who defined the concept of "virtue"?Men do everything, women just follow along. "Men bad because violence exists" is the thought process of an overgrown child. Our species has placed the responsibility of violence on men, and violence is an unchangeable fact of the world. You subsist on death and violence as every organism does, what the fuck do you eat everyday?
>>32342286>"If i buy the tuna can im not culpable" women logicYes or no? Too much of a coward to say it?Because you know a person torturing animals for lust and fun is definitely higher on the psychopath scale than someone buying a tuna sandwich because they're hungry.>The vast majority of men dont do any of this.30-50% of women experiencing abuse or sexual harassment in their life isn't an extreme rare case. It happens everywhere, every day, and it happens more often than it is even documented.>A ton of men have had personal experiences with mental abuse and manipulation.And who is causing mostly? Other men. Yep.
>>32342297>EnneagramsThe loot items in destiny 2?
>>32342295kek
>>32342278You're a weak, effeminate loser with no self respect. Make sure to lock your cock cage.
>>32342296makeup
>man is ignored by women his entire life>just does normal life things>at age 30+ starts to be more attractive than the guys who peaked in highschool because he has a decent career>still expect him to be putting women on a pedestal like he was when he was 17 but really he's just bitter towards them and wants nothing to do with themWhat do women think of this dynamic?
Here's your quick reminder that humanity did live in matriarchy for 1000s of years. Read into venus figurines for more info. These societies were so primitive there's no record of this, which is why feminists rewrite history as "its always been patriarchy". We lived in massive huts where sclerotic old women tyrannically broke men down and prevented any development, in favour of safety and comfort.Then the indo aryans came, conquered everything in the eurasian landmass, then the bronze age, Men rose to power and now we have skyscrapers that touch the clouds.Modern feminism seeks a return to the brokenness of old. It is nothing new, it is an ancient and evil force, and we will crush it once again.
>>32342303https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enneagram_of_PersonalityIf she is into it she is usually very into it,I find it also plain interesting. A girl I know diagnoses me as 5w4 so/sx which is the loner intellect type from what I read so far.
>>32342284I mean objectively? Probably, but it's not a red flag for me or anything.What scares you about other women?
>>32342311They seem like danger because my mom was a control freak
>>32342283Honestly for me the bigger problem is meeting women in generalI also don't think I've met a woman like that before irl honestly
>>32342278My experience with misandrist gf is that it's very refreshing and fun for a while to have a woman who engages you as an equal or even a perceived superior and argues her points, stands up for herself to you and others, and so on. Then you're a year in, and she's still incapable of separating you and the things you do for her from the rest of men, you get an angry condescending lecture about how men don't do enough housework when you've done all of her laundry, most of her cleaning, and cooked all of her meals for the last six months, and shes staring at you as if you need to apologize for some man in a story she saw on tiktok. So you decide enough is enough and then as a last ditch effort to keep you around she'll offer you some random sex act like anal or a threesome or something stupid and then claim you must be interested in Stacies or something when that doesn't lure you back in, because you're just a walking dick, right?
>>32342277> think men who start arguing back like they're a bitch themselves are too feminine.yikes, maybe check on your internalized misogyny anon
Need a playful furry gf to do dumb shit with, cuddle and roleplay with
>>32340662What percent of women want a guy with a 9” dick to fuck them as hard as he can?
Incels calling me gay for respecting women lmao
>>32342302>Yes or no? Too much of a coward to say it?>Because you know a person torturing animals for lust and fun is definitely higher on the psychopath scale than someone buying a tuna sandwich because they're hungry."Someone is worse than me therefore im innocent and can moralise on the thing im contributing to" - woman logic>And who is causing mostly? Other men. Yep.Nope. Women. Women are more emotionally manipulative. It's just their forms of emotional abuse isnt illegal. Lucky you.
>>32342301>Men do almost everything in society (please ignore how oppressed women have been for thousands of years across most cultures)>That's because men are great!>Men commit almost all violence, especially against women>That's just because violence is a natural part of the world, stop blaming men!Really high IQ on this one, folks.
>>32342312How does this affect you day to day? Do you just have trust issues or do you feel the urge to avoid them in public?
>>32342308sounds like the "bullies always lose in the end" cope. I've been to 10 year highschool reunion and guys who looked above average in HS aged well while guys who looked below average in HS aged worse
>>32342320what else is newthat is how they became incels
>>32342320happens here all the time
>>32340662Need white high top converse wearing gf
>>32342323Women believe their weakness is a virtue and this is why they are much less empathetic than men.
>>32342326Who?
anon :3 how do I get a gf
>>32342323You work, for free. Talk about High IQ.
>>32342068Best: Yoshinoya gfWorst: Any Amerifat chain gf
>>32342314I'm pretty upfront I want the burden shared, and pretty serious about that. Some were turned off when I insisted on these things but I select out weirdos by that anyway. Doing cooking together is just more fun.
>>32342321>"Someone is worse than me therefore im innocent and can moralise on the thing im contributing to" - woman logicI never said I'm innocent though. Are you hallucinating? I said it's just less bad on a scale of empathy, although still not good.>Nope. Women. Women are more emotionally manipulative. It's just their forms of emotional abuse isnt illegal. Lucky you.This logic falls apart when we look at countries where women are second class citizens with almost no rights and seen as inferior to men and it still doesn't happen.
>>32342323If you want to blame men for all crime then yeah you have to give men credit for all of civilization too, this is what annoys people about these leftist diatribes, there's no internal consistency, you have to be totally separated from everything positive about your identity but you're also expected to be shamed, guilted, and most importantly suffer legal and economic consequences for everything a person of your group supposedly did.
>>32342334make her laugh and make her laugh good
How do I cope with being too powerful? One punch and I could destroy any organism.
>>32342323>>That's because men are great!Feel free to highlight exactly where this was written. I'll wait.
>>32342342Just don‘t punch things unnecessarily.
>>32342341But how do I find her where do I go?
>>32342341Don't be a jester for women. Women will laugh at anything if you're already attractive, you won't change her mind if you aren't.
>>32342342>punches can only destroy organismsPathetic...
>>32340662Need slimthicc 5’0 Hispanic gf with fat outer labia who rides me reverse cowgirl flatfoot for minutes at a time and sucks my cock till I pass out from cumming too hard
>>32342339>I never said I'm innocent though. Are you hallucinating? I said it's just less bad on a scale of empathy, although still not good.You literally moralised about the meat industry while simultaneously participate. This sort of passive, weak type of evil is what women are experts in, and its despicable.>This logic falls apart when we look at countries where women are second class citizens with almost no rights and seen as inferior to men and it still doesn't happen.Nope. the logic stands up perfectly fine. Your empathy for women in third world countries with no rights only ever comes up when its to own men in arguments, you dont give a shit about them. Even more evidence of the puny type of morality women have. Keep going, you're like an exemplary for the fake virtue women pride themselves in.
>>32342342Idk,I did find this coupon for the grocery store tho
>>32342299Sure, there are presumably a bunch of other indictments of my value as a man, it's just a specifically frustrating one to see all the time.
>men don't allow women to go to school or get educated for most of history>women didn't invent anything!!!lol
>>32342354are you ok janny? i think your hotpocket just finished in the microwave
>>32342351>You literally moralised about the meat industry while simultaneously participate. Yes, because lack of empathy exists on a scale.Are you denying this? Are you autistic?>Nope. the logic stands up perfectly fine. No because even in places where women have no pussy pass or rights it's all the same statistically. Men abuse.
>>32342345half the population is women, all you have to do is approach onebe friendly and be kind blah blah you’ve heard this before im sure>>32342346if you aren’t willing to be a little silly for a girl then are you really in love
>>32342354Women invented making me horny
>>32342346Wrong. If you know about her interests you can use those easily to make her laugh even when you are not funny. Or past love lives
Ok but for people who dont want to fight with eachother and blame an entire group for their individualsI need a good opener for online dating message
>>32342357>half the population is women, all you have to do is approach one>be friendly and be kind blah blah you’ve heard this before im sureI mean I have yeah but I don't know what kind of places it's socially acceptable to approach at
>>32342360I typically just say howdyHelps me stand out
>>32342354Men are really fucking dumb.
>>32341900Underrated
>>32342357>if you aren’t willing to be a little silly for a girl then are you really in loveIf this is true, why is the impetus never on women to take the risk and be the jester?
>>32342364If she has an interest, engaging on that is good. Commenting on something notable in her pictures that she has control over is good too.
>>32342360Tell her your dreams
>>32342356>Yes, because lack of empathy exists on a scaleParticipating in a cruel industry and simultaneously moralising it to prove a point here is proof of your poor sense of justice and empathy. Dont dig this hole further, you look real stupid right now.>No because even in places where women have no pussy pass or rights it's all the same statistically. Nope, you're getting desperate now. Dont think i didnt notice all this cherrypicking you do to defer from my points. Again, more proof of your flimsy sense of empathy. You have no real sense of virtue, your sense of morality changes with the wind, you go on long rants to "win" arguments by changing your stance as you please while the man sticks to his principles. As I said, evidence of your utterly hollow sense of morality and empathy. Your weakness isnt a virtue in itself, it's just weakness, you will have sadistic fantasies in your head and think because women dont act on them it makes them good. Pathetic.
>>32342360It's just janny fishing for bans.
>>32342357>half the population is women, all you have to do is approach oneAs a man, it certainly doesn't feel this way. I did my best to go out and be social and meet new people, but every social activity was a sausage fest. Most women were on the arms of their boyfriends, and the few single women were constantly surrounded by charismatic men doing their best to chat them up. I only stopped being single because I luckily happened to come across a nice lady on R*ddit.
>>32341900I never got the memes with letters in parentheses. can someone explain it it makes me feel retarded
>>32342320She won't give it to you bud
>>32342365the last time a woman called me dumb irl it was a girl who thought her bathroom was haunted because she had a dripping faucet. After swapping the cartridge out I told her the ghost problem was solved, then I was called dumb for thinking that fixing the faucet would get rid of the ghost, and you know what maybe it didn't but mysteriously the ghost hasn't been turning on the faucet at night to a drip.
>>323417262>4>3>1
I was going to go out and run an errand but my coworker asked if I wanted to get lunch and I said no because I brought my own food but now they’re going to think I’m weird if I leave any way. How do I approach this?
>>32342369Her interests is horror movies edm and cars
>>32342362>I don't know what kind of places it's socially acceptable to approach atreally anywhere except obvious places like her workplace. don’t be afraid of being a bother if you genuinely find her interesting! like the whole “I can’t approach women when she’s shopping” I’m sure if you give her one nice “I think you look cool/interesting!” she’ll appreciate it>the worst she can say is ew>>32342367because sometimes men find “women humor” repulsivebut I really encourage women to be silly and be free>>32342375LOL yeah it’s like that sometimes. im glad you found someone !
>>32342354>lived in matriarchy for 10,000+ years>no record keeping, no advancements, just misery>patriarchy comes>bronze age, advanced civilisation, territories conquered>buh wahhhh we couldnt invent anything cos of men aahhhhhlol
>>32340662Picking up femanons and fucking them so hard they squirt
>>32342377A common onomatopoeia for dolphin noises is "eeee", so the 'e's are emphasized.
>>32340662>tight wet pussy with fat lipsHuuuunnnnmmfffff
>>32342377from those inspirational ass quotes S(he) be(lie)ve(d) where it has two in one. she believed, he lied. But the joke in that one takes the e’s for you to read all of the e’s making that dolphin sound
Remember femanons, the dirty talk you engage in the bedroom is no different to reality.
>>32342372>Participating in a cruel industry and simultaneously moralising itYou still haven't explained how torturing a baby kitten to jerk off to it with your bare hands takes the same lack of empathy than buying a tuna sandwich. Do you actually believe that? Simple yes or no question. Wait, you're gonna evade it again. Got it.>Nope, you're getting desperate now.How so? Are you arguing that statistics of violence and crime are different in third world countries where women seen as inferior and more evil than men? They are the same. Male nature is the same everywhere regardless of culture.
>>32342386>lived in matriarchy for 10,000+ yearssource
>>32342371Heyyy bb, i want to own a home with a homegym, hit 4 pl8 deadlift and retire earlyIm boring, that wont work
>>32342380Biden assisting an independent, democratic country defend themselves isn't ending the world. Russia was free to never invade Ukraine, and they continue to be free to stop invading Ukraine at any time. Everything stops if they just turn around and go home.
>>32342396You lose girl just take the L this level of dishonesty and manipulation is pathetic honestly, here have the last reply you're itching for it i can tell
>>32342385>like the whole “I can’t approach women when she’s shopping” I’m sure if you give her one nice “I think you look cool/interesting!” she’ll appreciate itDo I ask on a date then or is that too soon? My dad never taught me how to ask out women everything I know is from tv
>>32342379>NTAKinda sad that you expect a reward for something basic.
>>32342399Be less boring
State genderWhat did you do at recess as a kid?
>>32342401>raping and torturing animals for fun is the same level of evil as buying a tuna sandwich>>32342402> respect women more?LOL
>>32342403have a conversation with her and if she seems to like it (if you know what that looks like) then ask for a catchup later. “You seem really nice, I know this place…. would you be down to go sometime?”
>>32342397historyVenus figurines, longhouses etc
>>32342357>approach oneThat's sexual harassment
>>32342412Venus figurines aren't showing that. Just that men were horny. Longhouses? Nigga you're insane there is no real proof that women ruled for 10 000 years.
>>32342413if you approach one with your cock in hand it definitely is
>>32342407Stood under the plastic side and shocked kids with the static. Threw a football
>>32342414Having less rights and being gangraped means being more respected?
>>32342407My friends and I ran around the field pretending we were Sonic charactersI was Knuckles because he was red
>>32342413>men are so dense they can't see the difference between the two
>>32342415>Just that men were horny.kek
>>32342411>(if you know what that looks like)I think we both know that I do not...
is being attracted to women a form of rape?
>>32342393Sbeve
>>32342384Well then learn more about these. But I love learning in general. Even more to engage with a girl on it. >>32342388>>32342393Oooooooooohh. Okay now I get it. I feel enlightened. Thanks so much!
>>32340662Why are women so weak physically? I could just hug you and never let you go
How has a past boyfriend / girlfriend shaped your sexuality and kind of partners you like?
>ugh im your fucking slut daddy use my hole>im just your dumb fucktoy>also >we are equal and i can do everything you can!lol
>>32342402Uh... I'm one of the guys that has been calling the women unfair and all, but spending like a month traveling some of those places made me a feminist for a few weeks, those people do NOT treat women well at all. Pretty much the vibe I got in places like Kazakhstan and the Philippines is that the men are doing the same thing women are doing here, they expect total traditionalism and all of its positive aspects for themselves, while eschewing all of the responsibilities and demanding the privileges and benefits of modernity too. Most of the men demanded absolute obedience and didn't shy away from being violent if they didn't get it, it seemed like women were also the breadwinners in most of the homes and did all of the domestic work while the patriarch engaged in various leisure activities like drinking or gambling. The Greetings from Kazakhstan guy was not fucking around when he said he hates women. Anyway after a few weeks back home I went from feeling bad for women to hating them again.
>>32342283I never meet anyone women like this, it's all vapid tradbaptists where I live. I physiologically need a misandrist to prove my sincerity and compassion to who will treasure my sensitive heart as a rare prize instead of an ick.>lmao immaculated faggot cuck etc. etc.Whatever man we're all dying alone here.
>>32342427Women manipulated men into creating 'the state' to protect them from men doing this, if you ever wanted to know why governments exist.
Women, i asked fit for a routine for get big instead of get strong and they said 5/3/1 but that seems like powerlifting
>>32342420I agree that men are less intelligent than women. But I've heard plenty of women say that cold approaches constitute harassment.
>>32342431I am now more lenient on dating heavy women. If the fat is stored well then I don’t mind a heavier woman
>>32342423smiles and darting eyes and giggles
>>32342431Having past girlfriends made me think for brief periods of time that I would be able to get another one if I tried really hard. Turns out that wasn't true at all.
>>32342386>>32342397>>323424121. It's not 10,000 years, it's closer to 8,000.2. Not all matriarchal societies were the same.3. In the more oppressive ones we have a lot of proof that women governing were not good at it, they would pretty much treat men like slaves much like they do now.4. For the most part in these early settlements the foundations were built for civilization.Just not very good ones mind you.In general patriarchy is viewed as something of a necessary evil when it comes to dialectical materialism a "necessary stage" of industrial development across all cultures to evolve past stone age industry.>>32342354Women created agricultural division of labor, early capitalism, early pagan religion, and so on, for anything past the bronze age it's purely men, and for anything past around 1700, it's purely straight white men, and a few gay white men.Modern women in specific have no excuse, the problem for women isn't lack of education it has always been lack of work ethic. Plain and simple.
>>32342434I have noticed misandrists may hate men, but they at least do not hate men for having emotions unlike a lot of girls for whom it is an ick.
>>32342418Fewer*
>>32342431Developed a crush on a girl I met online. She was heavy into the weird sides of tumblr, and had moss green hair. Both of those are now of great interest to me
>>32340662Need pretty gf who smiles a lot
>>32342385>because sometimes men find “women humor” repulsivewomen don't learn to be funny because there's never been a pressure to.What I'm actually getting at is why women expect men to prove their love but men just take women's word for it.
>>32342440>darting eyesWait really? That sounds like she's looking for an out to me
>>32342436do a strength training routine for 6 months then switch to PPL or Upper Lower and lift 8-12 reps for sets of 3. Doing a strength training program when you first start lifting will help you in the long run because you'll be able to lift way more when you do the hypertrophy lifts
>>32342435The state exists to extract resources from the populace
are women subconscious when they eat phallic-shaped foods?
>>32342431She made me like brown girls and I probably rewired her brain to prefer white guys now
>>32342443It's probably much older. I do conceive of it as some "force" of sorts, some instinct in the collective feminine to basically keep humanity trapped in darkness, satisfied with basic needs met. The idea of reaching for something greater is from men.Australian aboriginals believed that women were spontaneously impregnated by ancestor spirits. They didnt know sex created babies. Here, the sole creator is woman, woman is quite literally god, this devastating lie is the core of this force, hence why i believe its much older.
>>32342444>male tears
>>3234245>subconsciouslol I meant self-conscious, whoops
>>32342443Nigga post a source that most cultures were matriarchal societies for a long span of time. You can't.
>>32342444They hate you for having sexual desires at all instead, and for having a penis, and for having self-respect, and for arguing back.
>>32342452MI think so
>>32342452They're signaling their interest in bbc
>>32342444Yeah it's one of the most frustrating things, most women see you as some kind of flesh golem without personhood who's supposed to fulfill whatever need they have, and then a bunch of the women who actually view you as another thinking, feeling being just hate men out of principle.
>>32342459>source? Where's the source? No i am not going to address what you're saying I need a source ahhhh!
>>32342466Because you just made it up. There were almost no relevant places around the world where women ruled over men for a long span of time.
>>32342460>most women have zero empathy>a select subgroup of women developed it solely to hate men moreit's like the meme about how you have to learn more about other cultures to be more racist
>>32340662Women,Do you like pegging?
>>32342469I'm really not sure where you got this idea in your head that misandrists "have more empathy"sounds like a fetish for you.
Women, why do you prefer men who use apple products?
>>32342451... To do... what exactly?
>>32342468That wasnt me. You cannot even begin to conceive of the truth because you're too fixated upon your own reality tunnel that you've created. I think your head would literally break if you found out how early settlements operated. Literal information hazard.
>>32342475Because people who use androids, or thinkpads, or whatever are almost universally socially maladjusted weirdos.
>>32342443>for anything past around 1700, it's purely straight white men, and a few gay white men.And a fucktonne of jews
>>32342465I'd much rather deal with the latter and it's not even close.
>>32342479Isn't android the most common OS?
>>32342465Yeah but they hate men as a whole, not every man so it does not bother me. But misandrists in my experience usually are just like that because most men adjust to that and just have no personality of their own and are prickly as fuck.
>>32342479Nta can confirm I'm a maladjusted weirdo and use android/windows products
>>32342474Maybe empathy isn't the right word, I guess it's more that the average woman doesn't have any idea why a man thinks the way he does where it seems like women who hate men are more interested in men's motivations and thought processes.
>>32342454No, you would need a ecological collapse like the one at the end of the last ice age to get the material conditions for matriarchy in the first place in which women use men as the backbone to society for material need, prior in the paleolithic both men and women had needs met and as such likely did not strive for more.>>32342459For which ones?Some are just general tribal genealogical statistics which showcase that women around 10,000 b.c only chose to mate with men who produced the most and ignored the rest despite there being a 50-50 population split, meaning women held a lot of power in these societies to voluntarily become Grug Chads harem and still make most men labor away.Or do you want goddess mother studies which have a lot to do with the occult and how food sacrifices towards one woman above the rest were done?Or do you want specific societies named like Cucuteni Trypillia culture and a few more Anatolian types which were the first to embrace patriarchy? Maybe longer surviving north eastern societies? >>32342480Jews living in a triangle between England and Italy*.
>>32342479I'm not gonna explain how it's better, just let me plug in my rasberry pi to my TV with the HDMI and open netflix on my browser while VPN'd to my parents' house instead of that god awful TV *pp and be happy.
>>32342407MPlayed with the fire ants by feeding them insects.
Men, why are you so stupid? RFK jr even thinks you're stupid for voting for him.
>>32342495>Men, why are you so stupid?Testosterone
>>32342407Talked to the student teacher about Legos.
>>32342490>it seems like women who hate men are more interested in men's motivations and thought processes.I can agree with this, but they're only ever on a basic level of self-awareness above others. This is why some of them may even end up in a "ok well we can just flip gender roles and do things our own way!!!". It shows a little more consciousness about society and all that, but they're far from self-actualized.This is of course, the absolute best case scenario. Eventually one should learn that midwits are even worse than braindead normies for a variety of reasons.
>>32342495I didn't voteI'm stupid for plenty of other reasons
>>32342495I’m only stupid around women because they’re so pretty
>>32342478There were almost no relevant places around the world where women ruled over men for a long span of time. Your schizophrenic opinion doesn't equal truth.
>>32342495M"Real men ought to be a little stupid.""The only thing I know for certain is I know nothing."Meanwhile women no matter how stupid or smart believe they can never be stupid and this leads to an innate egomania in all women which does more damage than retardation ever could.
>>32342495RFK didn't even get 750k votes who the fuck are you talking to
>>32342495I'm smart enough to realize women should make all the important decisions
>>32342496>people's biological understanding is so bad they'll actually believe this unironically
>>32342495RFK caused a measles outbreak that killed like 80 people and used to be a junkie. He is in no position to insult anyone. Him using a falcon to assault a police officer and resist arrest was pretty funny though so I forgive him.
Every HR person on linkedin:>Put the salary in the job listing, guys :3Every job listing:>no salary rangeWomen, why are you like this? While we're at it. What on earth compels somebody to go into HR as a career path?
>>32342504femdom is pathetic
>>32342491> that women around 10,000 b.c only chose to mate with men who produced the most and ignored the rest despite there being a 50-50 population splitWho says they weren't just raped or forcefully impregnated? Do you think random women in Afghanistan today can decide who they have kids with?>Or do you want goddess mother studies which have a lot to do with the occult and how food sacrifices towards one woman above the rest were done?Sure please post the studies that mother goddesses were seen as more powerful and important than male Gods in most relevant old places.
>>32342495Well considering that RFK Jr dropped out of the race it would be stupid to vote for him thinking that hour vote counted.But there are lots of places in the country that are not swing states, the vasy majority of states are not swing states, so you can vote however you want as a protest vote and it won't matter.
>>32342465Misandrists hate men for what they fail to be, which is a fair critique
>>32340662Maybe life would be better if I had a dominant woman in my life to tie me up and smack my balls with a paddle
>>32342508Don’t forget the mandated bachelors degrees and shit for entry level retail positions that they don’t actually follow lol. They do a bunch of shit related to job postings in order to inflate stock prices.>Why do people go into HR?Revenge. The average HR rep was the fat girl in high school.
>>32342512What's your ideal man?
>>32342510>Who says they weren't just raped or forcefully impregnated?Well because any man can do that.By it being only a few men who are breeding it shows that the women were exclusively part of Harems.
>>32342509>men are stupid>I agree>Noo, you can't agree!
>>32342516Smart, kind to others, self-assured, loving, emotionally intelligent, open, and so on. It's what I try to become.
>>32342517>Well because any man can do that.No, usually only powerful men get away with it or men that other men approve of.You literally just have to look at shitholes right now and see that women have very little say who they can marry and have kids with. The fathers, brothers, uncles and rulers decide.
>>32340763Ew. No, thanks. I still have six pounds to lose.
>>32342510Interesting you didn't ask for all the sources. And when you did, it had a snarky undertone.
>>32342521But..but...booty :(
WomenDo you think you 'have it easier' or worse than men overall?
>>32342510>Sure please post the studies that mother goddesses were seen as more powerful and important than male Gods in most relevant old places.See that's the funny thing.Apart from animism, until the bronze age, there were literally zero human male worshipped statues or even gods because war heroes and impressive feats of strength were also not worshipped yet.Zero figurines or statues of worship exist of any human men from 40,000 b.c until 3,000 b.c except for 1. A male coded lion statue which is animistic and not really male.2. A disputed ivory portrait which stands out as the one outlier, but given that it is a portrait with no body it is not a conventional worship deity.That's what we're trying to tell you. There was no male worship at all in any society until the Neolithic collapse which brought on patriarchy.You would know this if you studied history instead of going "NUH UH NUH UH." in hysterics.>Who says they weren't just raped or forcefully impregnated? Do you think random women in Afghanistan today can decide who they have kids with?Who says that a small group of men can't rape the entire population of women, keep the far far larger number of men at bay, and then all die together in the same graves with proof of struggle, making the men continue to work for them, and then raise the kids communally?Did you bother thinking that through before you asked?
>>32342506For me it's the whale.
>>32342449like, darting up and down I mean. Studying you
>>32342521How does a guy support his gf on a weight loss journey? It feels like encouraging her would just be saying she's fat an unattractive, but saying she's perfect now is against what her goals are
Women, would you do Findom with a male friend?
>>32340662Do women like when we tap out cock on their face?
>>32342529Oh, I seeSounds predatoryI kind of like the sound of that
/fit/, tanned Asian-American conservative Christian girl in PT school who teaches other people how to meal prep who called Trump "badass" when he walked in at the UFC fightorNever-entered-a-gym-in-her life sticc White liberal girl in a cushy government program management job with sick benefits who threw a meltie about Drumpf's face being shown on screen at the UFC fight?
>>32342534They still like dominant men, amigo.
>>32342530“im loving how passionate you are!” “looking good! are you feeling good?” “it’s amazing how much work you’re doing, it’s going great!”
>>32342530Make healthy meals together.Work out with her.
>>32342527"Theoretically, prehistory could have been matriarchal, but it probably wasn't, and nothing offered up in support of the matriarchal thesis is especially persuasive."Random coomer statues essentially old porn doesn't mean women were seen as superior. Literally even TODAY most things you see are half naked women and beautiful women whereas the male form exists but isn't pushed as much to the gaze of society.>Who says that a small group of men can't rape the entire population of women, keep the far far larger number of men at bay, and then all die together in the same graves with proof of struggle, making the men continue to work for them, and then raise the kids communally?They don't have to rape them, they can just force them. In most third world countries the fathers and brothers decide who the women can marry and have children with. There is 0% indication that women could just free fuck whoever they wanted with no consequences.
>>32342537One of these days I will find the unicorn that is a dominant woman...
>>32342530Commenting on her weight sure makes her lose pounds
>>32342462I know you're an American.
>>32342520>No, usually only powerful men get away with it or men that other men approve of.>You literally just have to look at shitholes right now and see that women have very little say who they can marry and have kids with.You realize we are talking about megalithic and Neolithic times right?So there was no semblance of any government.Basically it shows that these women were guarded in harems, if they were unguarded they would have been raped and had babies with a wide range of different men.One man fathering many offspring as the norm and the vast majority of men not breeding shows that harems of women were controlled very very few men and that there were no women outside of that system.
>>32342538>>32342539Solid tips, I'll archive these for future use>>32342542That's not what I meant, I meant if she wants to lose weight on her own, not how do I get her to lose weight
GirlsHow is a 40 year old virgin suppose to begin dating at his age, if he has 0 experience but any single woman would already have at least 20 years of experience?
>>32342536This has to be a joke, who would want the fat government worker girl?>rants about orange manThere are plenty of women who have left wing beliefs who are fine and loyal partners, but a chick who melts down over Trump will 100% cheat on you at some point regardless of your own political positions.
Minor addendum:An additional 2 figurines of men exist, Urfa Man and the thinker.Both portray men in passive scholar roles.4/250 statues from the neolithic depict men in anyway.Great job fellas! We did it reddit! We finally have more women representation in the media!>>32342540>Random coomer statues essentially old porn doesn't mean women were seen as superior. Literally even TODAY most things you see are half naked women and beautiful women whereas the male form exists but isn't pushed as much to the gaze of society.Because we live in a post patriarchal society where women are allowed to show their figures and forms again...?>They don't have to rape them, they can just force them. In most third world countries the fathers and brothers decide who the women can marry and have children with. There is 0% indication that women could just free fuck whoever they wanted with no consequences.Alright so where is your source of those men forcing their daughters and sisters to all go into harems for one man?Again this is 50% population split in these studies, and yet the equal population did not lead to most men getting any.The only alternative theory (off the bat and unsupported by the paper) I could think of is deliberate inbreeding avoidance, but this is expecting too much from essentially cave men working on the first farms ever.
>>32342548Find another 40-year-old virgin.
>>32342545>You realize we are talking about megalithic and Neolithic times right?Yes and that would only further make the situation more dire for anyone who didn't have power to enforce their will.>So there was no semblance of any government.Do you think they got the government breathing down their neck in some shithole muslim village in the mountains?
>>32342548accept the fact that you won’t find a virgin woman your age
>>32342540>men will collectively cuck themselves and let chads breed>old statues werent worshipped they were just used to coomkeknever take women seriously, they actually are just that retarded
>>32342550>Because we live in a post patriarchal society where women are allowed to show their figures and forms again...?It's not just that women are allowed to do it, it is that society prefers to see that. Most people want to see women. Men don't sell as well. This doesn't mean however that women are seen as superior beings just because they are objects of flesh to be looked at.>Alright so where is your source of those men forcing their daughters and sisters to all go into harems for one man?I didn't say that. But the fathers and brothers deciding who you marry is still not your own consent. Can women in India and Afghanistan living in villages or north african tribes just marry who they want or are MALES in the family the ones ultimately owning the women and deciding who she can go with?
>>32342551Doesn’t exist>>32342554That is obvious. But how is a guy who has literally 0 experience going to be able to date women who have 20+ years of experience?
>>32342552The tribal system that exists today in the middle east is a pre government system, it's not an megalithic one and cannot be compared and it also isn't producing the same genetic results as the megalithic one.
>>32342548I’ve got a movie for you
Manifesting black metal gfOMMM
>>32342550You are holding yourself to rigorous standards while arguing with someone who doesn't care for it, and thinks modern day standards apply to the past.
>>32342564that movie is bs and virgin shaming.
>>32342561after communicating your inexperience, you let her teach you
>>32342561MBeing honest and getting on hinge.
>>32342566You know what, after medium shirt bf femanon and hockey bf femanon you are well within your rights to do this. Good luck anon
>>32342431They showed me what I do NOT like at all. I also learned that I like anal, pain and being a bit dommy, so thats great.
>>32342563>>32342555Can you guys use your brain for a moment? Why the FUCK would men who are like super mutant witchers compared to the average woman and can enforce whatever they want let women rule over them during that time? The women had 0% way to enforce anything. It doesn't even make sense.Especially with no police, no government, men were more horny and testosterone filled, you think they just don't get sex when they want it? You think they had to kneel down and do the bidding of random cave women? It doesn't make sense at all.
>>32342561>how is a guy who has literally 0 experience going to be able to date women who have 20+ years of experience?Not well, to be honest, you might as well ask how does a 40 year old guy join the Marine Corps. I know people are big on "never too late!" but the ship for normal dating and relationships for you has sailed.
>>32342561Be honest and open about your inexperience and if she thinks you're attractive she'll overlook it.
>>32342572Atoga really works wonders to manifest dream bfs. Worked like a charm for me.
>>32342569>teach youNta, but lmao. No woman wants to have to teach a full grown man how to date and have sex.
>>32342574> men who are like super mutant witchersDo you see what you're doing or do you want me to point it out for you more clearly? I really want you to figure this out yourself.
>>32342559>Most people want to see women. Men don't sell as well. This doesn't mean however that women are seen as superior beings just because they are objects of flesh to be looked at.Yeah that's fair, studies show women are 80% bi and what not.>I didn't say that. But the fathers and brothers deciding who you marry is still not your own consent.Ok I get it but the problem again is they statistically found a connection between a deliberate "population bottleneck" in conjunction with men who were the highest producers during 10,000 b.c. in an almost global trend.Which is more likely?Groups of women who had free reign CHOSE to go for the men producing the most?Or one day all of them were forcefully married off in large numbers to only the highest producing men in every village?>Can women in India and Afghanistan living in villages or north african tribes just marry who they want or are MALES in the family the ones ultimately owning the women and deciding who she can go with?See the problem is that these are all modern societies believe it or not, after the Indo European invasions a chain reaction of patriarchal "father worship" and empowerment of men came about, what you're doing is focusing on these time periods where patriarchy is in effect.My question is simple: Can you find papers showing that a small number of men still get most women in patriarchally dominated societies to prove your point?
>>32342549The joke is that /pol/ would pick the other girl just because she's white
>>32342582if she’s in love she would.. maybe
>>32342566I had a black, black metal gf. She was kino
>>32342580Meanwhile JH looks on angrily from the sidelines
>>32342569>>32342579What about these >>32342582>>32342575I think it’s true. Being a virgin this late is so often looked at terribly. It doesn’t matter that my life is good, if a woman knows I’m inexperienced it has to be over. I’ve gotten on the apps and it’s so so often I see profiles that say “looking for a man who knows what he wants”. But I obviously have no idea
>>32340662Where do I find a hot Latina milf to fuck?
WomenIf your bf is into femdom would you try it?
>>32342597impregnate a hot Latina ez
>>32342594She could have one too if she wanted to. She does not actually want to.
>>32342590>if she’s in loveShe’s not going to fall in love at the sight of him lmao. She would quickly find all of his flaws and awkwardness. If he’s 40 and a virgin. He has never lived with a woman. He is used to being alone and not having a woman in his space. Now imagine how uncomfortable and awkward he will be when a woman enters his home?
>>32342597The southwestern United States?
>>32342598Depends on what he means by that. Can be cringe, can be hot.
>>32342597Offer to hide her from the upcoming right wing death squads.
>>32342607What is cringe what is hot?
>>32342583Men are 2-3x stronger and also faster than women. They actually don't need to listen to them at all if there is no police or rules enforcing this and women can't enforce anything without physical strength back then. Subtle manipulation isn't enough to tame horny, enraged cave men.>>32342586>Groups of women who had free reign CHOSE to go for the men producing the most?>Or one day all of them were forcefully married off in large numbers to only the highest producing men in every village?Why would they go on their own free will for a harem unless the man wasn't forcing them or offered them ways to survive that other men couldn't? Most women don't want to be side hoes, so there had to be good reason for that. Either force or survival.>My question is simple: Can you find papers showing that a small number of men still get most women in patriarchally dominated societies to prove your point?Isn't that literally what incels always cry about? That women rate 80% of men below average.https://archive.vn/ZJymw
>>32342599I suspect there is some subliminal messaging going on here but I cannot be certain
GirlsWhat would you think if you found out that you’re the first white girl your bf has been with, all his ex gfs and hook ups were black?
>>32342597Come to california you can find them anywhere from age 20-40+
How horny do you get when you ovulate
>>32342574Despite memes most men aren't interested in raping a woman, even in primitive conditions with zero repercussions. The Chad harem model saw most men just leave the tribe and either die or live alone in the wilderness, you can see it in some apes and other higher mammals, believe it or not men's natural inclination is to fuck off when told to rather than just pin femgrug to a tree. Getting men worked up into enough of a frenzy that they'll actually rape and pillage requires a shitload of conditioning and pregaming which just doesn't happen in most primitive societies, and even then it's more about revenge and catharsis than some grand reproductive strategy. My personal theory has always been that the women were always secondary to the change in male dynamics that came with agriculture, some group of guys decided they were tired of Chad getting all the good mammoths or using the good cave, or just letting his women pick from their fields, and went out and clubbed him over the head. The women then had to either play ball with those men's social dynamics or provide for themselves, and we know which on they picked.
>>32342621I don't ovulate, but I am horny every day.
>>32342612Men also died at age 30 if theyre lucky from dysentry or some other horrific disease in that past. Men arent actually how you deem them in your sexual fantasies. Furthermore, they can listen to women because since the dawn of time women are the progenitors which gave them lots of power, and to this day they leverage it.im rolling on the floor laughing at you posting okcupid studies as proof to other anon, god you're a fucking retard, you're genuinely too stupid for this convo
>>32342625Trans?
>>32342574>Why the FUCK would men who are like super mutant witchers compared to the average woman and can enforce whatever they want let women rule over them during that time? The women had 0% way to enforce anything. It doesn't even make sense.Social indoctrination is a strong STRONG motherfucker. Look at China, North Korea, even modern America on both sides of the political spectrum.If a guy is born to a family of mothers and sisters instilling this in him, telling him he has to work for the village but also for his sisters baby/his cousin to support it and Chads other 4 babies with other women, so that the overall bloodline can survive then he wouldn't say no just because he's horny. Contrary to what you think men aren't just chimp nigger retards who go into hormonal musth. They have culture and standards to upkeep, especially if women had been running homes for a very long time.The ancient Minoans banned depictions of pregnancy because of their motherhood mortality rates, but it would have probably also hurt men to see reminders of how their mothers and sisters died in child birth, these men shared their mothers pain and wants, we're not just going to go apeshit over being horny.This is why it took a major collapse of the Neolithic societies with raids from PIE people to get there to be a necessary CULTURAL revolution and changes in Europe for one.Suddenly albeit over time for places like northern europe and Greek Islands, people realized now men and war were going to be a necessity.Now men were no longer agricultural tools for women. War liberated men.>>32342612>or offered them ways to survive that other men couldn't?Did you bother reading any of my previous statements carefully?Those men DID offer the highest rates of survival because they were the highest agricultural producers of their time.The paper specifies it wasn't just random men who got the hoes, it was the ones who produced the most food for the village.
>>32342629>Telling him he is a good boy, overstimulating his cock and using his face to get myself off: Hot.Nta but I blushed reading this
My tea is cold
>>32342636reheat it
>>32342637WtfAnon you're a genius
>>32342640thanks :3
>>32342595The only way to get experience is to try, fail, then try again with the lessons learned. This isn't like a job market where there are physical barriers to entry. These are social barriers, and the only way to overcome them is by trying.There are even women with virgin fetishes out there
>>32342619There’s also pretty Asians in cali isn’t there
>>32342646God yes, there's so many of them
>>32342644But they have at least 20 years more experience. For me to get to their level, I would be 60 by then
>>32342616I'm not white and I'm not black either. It means he has a fetish for black women and there's a chance he might have had stds.
>>32342627No, just a man.
>>32342649That's a good point. It's hopeless and you should give up.
>>32342646In the major cities, yeah
I like how everybody agrees that>Women get lots of attention, but they do also get a lot of unwanted attentionand>Men get literally no attention and will die alone unless they learn to be outgoingAnd women will consistently complain that men aren't empathetic enough about the first situation, but then get mad and ignore anything about the second situation whenever guys bring it up.
What's the easiest woman of colour to get with? I think its indians.
>>32342653You’re probably right desu. Another anon said above that there is a timeframe for this. It just hurts to accept
MenPost best boyWomenPost best girl
>>32342626>im rolling on the floor laughing at you posting okcupid studies as proof to other anon, god you're a fucking retard, you're genuinely too stupid for this convoCan you explain to us how the study is flawed? Oh right, you can't.>>32342624Most men DEFINITELY are interested in having relations at some point with fertile women and would be sexually frustrated working hard, hunting, building, surviving and getting none.>>32342630>The paper specifies it wasn't just random men who got the hoes, it was the ones who produced the most food for the village.So it literally just goes back to the same shit of families (uncles, brothers, fathers) marrying of their daughter or sending them into harems to the wealthiest fuck in the village. If they got married or had sex young which most did it wasn't the choice of an adult woman, it was the choice of the people in her life.>Social indoctrination is a strong STRONG motherfucker.And how did women arrive at a point where they could all indoctrinate much stronger men to be their slaves? This is all in your head, this never happened on a grand scale aside from a few irrelevant villages or tribes.
>>32342660
>>32342660Surely not going to post pics of my bf.
>>32342271>You thinkNo, no I don't. You latched in to something, made an incorrect assumption, and threw a tantrum over it. Autism.
>>32342660MXia Ji, my wife
>>32342649That's not how experience works. We take in knowledge at different rates, and usually by the time you're 40 you're better at learning skills than you are when you're 20.>>32342659>I don't have any experience, I should try to get some>but I can't get any experience because I don't have any to begin withThis is circular reasoning. Either put yourself in the uncomfortable situations to learn and improve, or forever stagnate in regret wondering what might have been.
>>32342661>Can you explain to us how the study is flawed? Oh right, you can't.It's the fact that you think its relevant is what's funny. You are a retard>This is all in your head, this never happened >resorting to literal gaslighting kek
>>32342655Men could fix their problem by becoming outgoingIf I say I'm going to fix my problem by becoming "not a woman" everybody gets mad
>>32342660MSunfyre and Aegon II are both best boys
>>32342664>>32342201You think this not a conversation. Autism.
>>32342657Probably Phillipine women, mexican, indians, Vietnamese, Thailand, Slavic,
>>32342667>It's the fact that you think its relevant is what's funny. You are a retardHow is it not relevant? Where are the flaws in the study?
>>32342655>>Men get literally no attention and will die alone unless they learn to be even somewhat pleasant to be around and actually leave their house FTFY
>>32342672Wow I didn't expect you to still be upset about it I had time to have lunch and give my grandpa a shower.This is a conversation dumbass.Questions are a normal part of conversation /= conversations must consist of only questions. You're literally making yourself mad.
>>32342666>That's not how experience works. We take in knowledge at different rates, and usually by the time you're 40 you're better at learning skills than you are when you're 20.if that was true, then it wouldn’t be shameful to be a virgin at my age, because in your theory, we could learn quickly and lack of experience would mean nothing. But that’s not reality. Women don’t like virgins
>>32342661>Most men DEFINITELY are interested in having relations at some point with fertile women and would be sexually frustrated working hard, hunting, building, surviving and getting none.Monks.>So it literally just goes back to the same shit of families (uncles, brothers, fathers) marrying of their daughter or sending them into harems to the wealthiest fuck in the village. If they got married or had sex young which most did it wasn't the choice of an adult woman, it was the choice of the people in her life.Most women were 23 when they became mothers across ancient history we have studies that back this up, but why would a male dominated society go ahead and undermine their sons deliberately? >aside from a few irrelevant villages or tribes.That is quite literally ALL HUMAN CIVILIZATION UNTIL THE BRONZE AGE.>And how did women arrive at a point where they could all indoctrinate much stronger men to be their slaves? Because they had a head state on the intellectual and household governance of the division of labor.
>>32342669NtaOutgoing is a personality type, you can't really change it, you can mask it but pretending to be someone you aren't is sufferingAlso, unwanted attention from men may be a symptom of telling them to be outgoing. This day and age if we made an effort to reverse it or even the playing field, and encouraged women to approach, men may eventually be less outgoing and thus the problem may be solved
>>32342674Because the study is not saying a small number of men got all the women. It's just about attraction, retard.
>>32342655One of the reasons I was so attracted early on to the woman I ended up marrying was that she acknowledged how rough the dating landscape was for men and was pretty considerate because of it.That said, she received so many messages that she had to stop replying and even delete that account. There wasn't enough time in the day to give consideration to every single man who expressed interest in her. We only ever got to talk because I was one of the first to message her.
>>32342664>>32342672You've been at this for almost two hours now. You're both autistic as fuck.
>>32342682>Also, unwanted attention from men may be a symptom of telling them to be outgoingIt's not. A fumbled attempt at talking to me is fine it's the sexual advances at the grocery store which are not ok.
>>32342673>Slavic>POCSlavs are European.
>>32342677You fixating on the nature of conversations as if that subtlety of difference there is relevant is signs of you being socially disabled. You're literally making yourself mad.
>>32342689Slavs are the ns of europe.
>>32342685I was gone for at least an hour I'm poking a sleeping bear if anything
>>32342692Sure but they're still European and therefore not POC.>>32342691
Is it possible to overcome the idea that I'm completely unlovable, reinforced by like 15+ years of personal experience proving that fact to me? I feel like I'm ngmi unless I can find some semblance of hope, but I just don't have it.
>>32342685I like winding up autists
>>32342661>Most men DEFINITELY are interested in having relations at some point with fertile women and would be sexually frustrated working hard, hunting, building, surviving and getting noneIm a virgin and just turned 40 3 weeks ago. I am fit, I have a great career that I worked extremely hard for, and I have financial stability with 0 debt. Does it hurt when I realize I missed out on dating and it’s something I will never understand or be able to relate to? Yes absolutely. But the thought of attacking someone has never crossed my mind
>>32342696>I was gone for at least an hourThat's not better.
>>32342697that means people of caca
>>32342691So you've understood what I said the whole time you just purposely looked autistic and pretended to misunderstand as a gotcha? I don't think it worked man.
>>32342698talk to a therapist
>>32342703You never respond before refreshing just piss someone off for giggles?Live a little
>>32342705You're the one that never understood it, namely that the difference is irrelevant and now you're trying to save face. Didnt work boo.
>>32342708>Difference is irrelevant Should I remind you of your original point or
>>32342680>Monks.0,01% elite of humans. Lol. >Most women were 23 when they became mothers across ancient history we have studies that back this up, but why would a male dominated society go ahead and undermine their sons deliberately?23? You sure about that?>but why would a male dominated society go ahead and undermine their sons deliberatelyBecause if the son was a bum and the family was starving, selling your daughter off made more sense. Sons had more freedom anyway.>That is quite literally ALL HUMAN CIVILIZATION UNTIL THE BRONZE AGE.No, that's your opinion. You think all off human civilization were ruled by women until bronze age. Scientifically speaking most people studying history don't agree with that take because if you just google or look for books supporting your point they're completely rare.
>>32342702Do you use porn as an outlet?
>>32342687See I didn't even know that's a thing that happensStill, though, I suspect a society that encourages men to be outgoing and the pursuers is likely going to result in that sort of thing happening more than one that made the pursuit more equal between genders
>>32342706>be richOkay,that's not particularly helpful. I already spent like 10k on therapy, and all I really got out of it was being numb to everything so that at least I don't care as much that I'm an abject failure and just kind of accept it.
>>32342407>State genderMale>What did you do at recess as a kid?Mostly read Lloyd Alexander and Piers Anthony
>>32342709Give it a try. Your autism therapist will be very proud for trying, at least.
>>32342715Then no, it is not possible. You are a lost cause
>>32342713I used to, but not so much anymore. I’m in my 40s. Sex drive is decreasing, and honestly. It’s difficult to even masturbate anymore, based on the fact that I am so disconnected from sex that I can’t even imagine it anymore. When I was younger, I could imagine what it could maybe be like one day. But now that I know it won’t happen, I can’t imagine it
>>32342407FWalked rounds with my friends and talked about boys.
>>32342712not le heckin experts
>>32342531What type.Because I probably don't find them attractive.
>>32342714Are women discouraged from being the pursuers or are they just not interested?If he's not pursuing me I don't think he likes me. That has nothing to do with whether or not he's outgoing that's just plain being shy/timid.The guys who are doing the sexual harassing don't care. They don't care that you are having trouble talking to women and they don't care that they make women uncomfortable. They are acting that way because they want to not because it's successful with women.
>>32342531Findom should literally be illegal.
>>32342407Me and the bros would chill in the library playing yugioh. Sometimes we did handball or 4 square
>>32342531Absolutely. Unfortunately I have developed a bit of a thing for it lately.
>>32342698>reinforced by like 15+ years of personal experience proving that fact to me?A man in a desert might have twenty years of proof that fresh water lakes don't exist. That doesn't make it truth.And even if you were unloveable now, you can change. You really can. Love others. Start with yourself.
>>32342718We'll let's see your original point was "women bad" and you pretended to not understand how conversations work. Now we're here and you've been having an entirely separate conversation in your head to the one that was actually happening. I hope you feel like you won.
>>32342724>they want to not because it's successful with women.No. They are successful, being overly dominant can work with plenty of women, and when theyre perceived as attractive more so.
>>32342541Men don't support genuinely dominant women. They support fake ones.
Midwit density is reaching critical mass. Please, God, flush it all away.
>>32342733I am not talking about attractive men here dude. I'm talking about 55 year old meth heads sexually harassing women at the grocery store not "normal" people.
>>32342732>We'll let's see your original point was "women bad"Nope. Didnt read on from there. Oh well. You gave it a try and that's what matters.
>>32342450Ive been lifting 2 years now and am at least intermediate.Got a good upper liwer for me?
>>32342731Nobody can learn to love themselves when everybody else tells them they can't. it's impossible.
>>32342741I hope you mature beyond the age of 14 someday anon
WomenShould I get drunk to try and wash away my sadness and depression for the day?
>>32342740Yes. That's part of my point. If theyre attractive its not harassment. Which is why men shouldnt take womens cries of "sexual harassment" seriously, its not about the act its about whos doing it.
>>32342661I've read a lot of stuff about the early puritan settlers and even did some research on them. They probably aren't exactly your "typical" primitives, but the vibe I got was that the female relatives were just as involved in the matchmaking process, the average age for a woman's first marriage there was also around 22, so I really don't buy this idea that women were just chattel until 1920. Again maybe their particular circumstances weren't universal, but they were a patriarchal society cut off from the rest of the world for a good century to do whatever they wanted, and marrying all of the 15 year old girls off to the guy with the biggest farm wasn't what they did.
>>32342746I hope one day you can have sensible conversations without feeling the need to derail and deflect anon.
>>32342747Ime that's a bad ideaSmoke weed instead >>32342748If they're attractive they have literally never once resorted to hitting on a woman at the grocery store. They don't need to because they have proper social lives and have options.
>>32342746>>32342752I hope one day both of you will learn when to shut the fuck up.
>>32342724nta. your make believe version of what's happening doesn't align to realitythere's posters everywhere on a campus that have basically convinced the college guys that even talking to a woman can get them in trouble, and surprise, college women are complaining that men barely approach them anymore. Not coincidentally, accusations of sexual assault on campuses is also down.meanwhile a doctor jacks off of onto his nursing staff at work and they're okay with it because he's perceived as high status
>>32342712>23? You sure about that?First study on Google, Hanh, in fact multiple studies affirm this.Why? Is 23 not young enough for you?>Scientifically speaking most people studying history don't agree with that take because if you just google or look for books supporting your point they're completely rare.Except the overwhelming evidence in the above in the thread again this was a global trend.>Because if the son was a bum and the family was starving, selling your daughter off made more senseThe sons weren't bums though, they kept on working, just not the top earners, they still supported the village.
>>32342712This is such a fascinating conversation to read. Other anon is speaking about actual history and femanon is just projecting her sexual fantasies>no the big le bad witcher men were fucking ze women young and and women had no power and um ahhh
>>32342757>there's posters everywhere on a campusPost one.
>>32342756Never>>32342757>college campusBabe that isn't the real world. I haven't been college aged in a decade complain to someone else.
>>32342747No. Do some stretches and breathing exercises. Afterwards take a warm and or cold shower.
Why yes, I do come to this thread every day solely to bitch about Americans. How did you know?
>>32342757>college women are complaining that men barely approach them anymorelmao. it's more like 1 or 2 bottom of the barrel girls per campus complaining about it on atoga and reddit
>>32342769What country are you from?
>>32342724>Are women discouraged from being the pursuers or are they just not interested?It seems like they are, from women I've talked to. Especially by other women>If he's not pursuing me I don't think he likes me. That has nothing to do with whether or not he's outgoing that's just plain being shy/timid.Outgoing and shy are two sides of the same coin though?>The guys who are doing the sexual harassing don't care. They don't care that you are having trouble talking to women and they don't care that they make women uncomfortable. They are acting that way because they want to not because it's successful with women.I know one guy that got like that while drunk, so I'm going to assume the ones doing it sober are the same, but they do think it is successful with women to a point. They have a sort of warped view of how flirting and affection works, and I guess assume because they'd be okay with it everyone else must surely be as wellBoth issues should be acknowledged and effort should be made to solve them, so we can all be happy together
what exactly is post sex man musk
>>32342774>>32342757>men don't approach us anymore!I feel like women as a whole have been gaslit about how commonly random cold approaches used to happen in the first place. Men randomly going up to you and seeing if you're interested in dating while you're on your way to class or the store or whatever was never a common thing in the first place, and it was pretty much nonexistent for most women just like it is now lol.
>>32342778Basically a mix of sweat and jizz scents.
Bazinga!
Best position to play with her nips when fucking?
>>32342747No, drink water and raw dog the day.Fuck your pillow or w/e you incels do to simulate being pleasant around others.
>>32342778maybe you'll get to experience it one of these days
>>32342734I guess that depends on your definition of each but I think I support genuinely dominant women
>>32342777>Outgoing and shy are two sides of the same coin though?Shyness is always a negative though. Call it introversion if you're capable of talking with people and being in a group without being anxious but would prefer not to.And see >>32342740 for the next point. When I am sexually harassed it is always by some guy old enough to be my dad and/or some guy who's clearly on something at the time.
>>32342785Her on top. How is this even a question?
>>32342785Missionary or cowgirl retard.
If a guy is otherwise perfect, a 10, how many points does he lose for having hair like this?
>>3234279511
>>32342795He just needs a haircut.Most men will go bald. We just have to accept it.
>>32342795Are you going to stop using your 15 in 1 and switch to actual shampoo and conditioner?
>>32342758>Why? Is 23 not young enough for you?If the average neolithic woman had 5-10 children and stop at 35 or whatever then the average age will be older than the age they start having their first kid and having sex. Why would men not impregnate 18 year olds? >>32342759>ze women were ruling ze men for 10 000 of years! TRUE STORY! IT REALLY LE HAPPENED!Is this your femdom kink speaking?
>>32342785mortuary after paying off the guards
>>32342795-7
>>32342754>Smoke weed instead Weed just gives me dry mouth and a headache, I'm not a fan of it. Alcohol only gives me a headache if I go overboard, which I haven't done in years>>32342766I worked out earlier and showered, does that count? It didn't help, if anything the warm water just made me more sad>>32342787>Fuck your pillow or w/e you incels do to simulate being pleasant around others.That's a confusing sentence, I'm very pleasant around others and it has nothing to do with fucking a pillow or masturbating at all. I try to be the good I want to see in the world and try to uplift everybody else around me through encouragement and compliments
>>32342802so he gains 7 points?
>>32342799>Is this your femdom kink speaking?no, its history
I gooned again
>>32342805No, it really isn't. The idea that women ruled for 10 000 years over men in most places on Earth is not history. It's your jerk off femdom fantasy.
>>32342799nta, but a woman can wield authority without it being a sexual kink anon, like I'm pretty sure the Russians shooting at the Turks in the 1700s weren't jacking off in between reloads over how hot Catherine was.
>>32342799Hey man you impregnate all the teenagers you want, I'm just saying what the sciences say.>Femdom kinkWomen ruiling for 8k years and moving at a snails pace in civilizational development while men ruling for 2k and developing way faster, creating all modern society is not a femdom thing, it's a pointing out women are retarded thing.
>>32342812I know, I'm just making fun of the guy and his sexual fantasies projections.
>>32342812Pretty sure they did.
NNN got me like picrel
>>32342804Nta but the answer would still be 3 dummy.10 + -7 = 3
>>32342811Hey look, dont get mad, just pointing out how your conversation with the other anons going. He's bringing actual historical fact and all you have is>big man strong he wont let ze women be in chargeIts pretty misogynistic honestly
>>32342797I get upset because I think my hair looks really good from the front. But I'm losing it on top and I hate that.
>>32342814>Hey man you impregnate all the teenagers you want, I'm just saying what the sciences say.Do you understand what average age means? If a woman gives birth until 35 and she had many children, as women back then (up to 6-10 kids) did then it moves up the age even if she starts being impregnated at 16.
>>32342810Six months. Isocubes.
>>32342791>Shyness is always a negative thoughWhy is shyness a negative?>When I am sexually harassed it is always by some guy old enough to be my dad and/or some guy who's clearly on something at the time.How would you like us to solve that? I personally don't think I can do anything about it unless I see it happening in real time, like with my drunk friend
>>32342820>>how many points does he lose>-710 - -7 =17 ya dingus
>>32342820OP asked how many points would he lose. if he lost negative 7 points he would be up 7 points. He'd be at 17.
>>32342830It's obvious the way she intended it.Both your example and mine are correct math.
>>32342702Have you considered that this might be just you? Plenty of guys are sexually active until old age and just like the mean age for motherhood has been rising, the age for fatherhood as been rising as well. Maybe you should consult a doctor about your issues.
>>32342832Then the obvious interpretation is just to subtract 7 and not bother with the negative at all. Y'all are just trying to be funny
>>32342818Fuck yeah baby, back when women were REAL women, I'll bet not a single woman in this thread has instigated a coup or started a war in advance of her mad territorial aims. I'm a real man, and I need to die of an infected bayonet wound fighting for the land claims of REAL woman, not that any of the lazy unambitious femanons in this thread would know anything about that, I'll bet that every girl reading this hasn't even thought about raising an army to take over a nearby county or expand the borders of Christendom.This is why men won't ask you out ladies, be better.
>>32342833>Both your example and mine are correct math.Yes, the maths are good, but we are being pedantic about the logic of OPs equation, and with that I am right and you are wrong.
>tfw no gf to wrap herself around me and give me the tightest hug while we cuddle>tfw no gf to hold my head tightly to her chest so I can hear her breathing and heartbeatWomen, do you/would you cuddle your bf and hold him as tight as you can?
>>32342794>>32342792She hasn't figured out being on top yet.>missionaryTo get a good angle I put my hands on the bed
Women, are you familiar with Guillermo’s Paradox? Thoughts on it?
>>32342841If you consider the intention more important than the notation I'm right though, so. Here we are lol. Have a good day.
>>32342840>every girl reading this hasn't even thought about raising an armyI have.>to take over a nearby county Oh lame. >expand the borders of ChristendomThe opposite.>be betterReal.
>>32342844>tfw no snake gfgod is so cruel
>YWN be a crusty gooner turned Turk killing super soldier by Catherine the greatIt hurts so much bros.
>>32342852Personally I'd prefer a demon with wings she can wrap around meSnake would be really close though
>>32342846>She hasn't figured out being on top yet.kek
>>32342848Facts do not care about your feelings, thoughever. Adieu, anon.
>>32342858And the fact I care about is what the person who said it actually meant not semantics lmao
>>32342846>She hasn't figured out being on top yet.No offense is your girlfriend "special?" You can tell us, most men on 4chan usually date disabled women, there are so many "Just date a blind girl bro" greentexts I can't even count them all.
How do I have sex so it feels good for me but also feels good for him but doesn’t come off too much like I’m just doing things I saw in porn but also shows some finesse and skill?I am interested in riding but apparently guys don’t like when you do the grinding thing
Do you really lose seven points of attractiveness for having a bald spot?
>>32342846>she hasn't figured out being on top yetmost women just don't have the stamina or core strength to get themselves or you off while being on top.
>>32342846>She hasn't figured out being on top yet.My ex would tap out instantly going on top. Never understood what that was about.
>>32342865You lose -7 though
>>32342844Sure as long as he would feel comfortable
>>32342864>I am interested in riding but apparently guys don’t like when you do the grinding thingThats a meme, keep doing it
>>32342851>raise an army for gay atheism
>>32342847I believe the Constitution is clear: the President holds executive power, and it shouldn’t be undermined by judicial overreach. While judicial review has its place, it risks concentrating too much authority in the courts, which aren’t accountable to the people. The President’s powers are explicitly written in the Constitution, and we should honor that clarity instead of allowing unelected judges to interpret it in ways that diminish the executive’s rightful authority.
>>32342870Same, you're just laying there looking up at this huffing and puffing woman who weakly asks "did you cum yet?" I had a little sympathy for women in that women, but it was fleeting.
>>32342863NtaTo be fair to her it's not as straightforward as it seems. I can't do it for long and I can't go as fast as a man can thrusting. Unless I don't bounce and just move my hips back and forth but that can get uncomfortable for him and grinding together wet pubic hair doesn't feel great for anybody.
>>32342865Seven is a bit large but yeah you're losing at least 3 or 4
>>32342874Assume he is so comfortable with you that he always wants to be touching you in some way, and would ideally be at maximum surface area touch at all times
>>32342883Then what am I supposed to do?
>>32342877No to both of those. I would make my own religion and I would be the empress, the goddess and the seductress.
Take the bussy out yo thong playa
How much of self-loathing men's mindset do you think is because women aren't giving them attention, and how much is because they aren't actually living the values they have personally?
>>32342889Grow a beard and maintain it
>>32342889Eliminate the bald spot
My boyfriend has been bald since he was 17 and I still like him, but he is so sad. How do I help?
>>32342895Beard plus shaved head?
>>32342903make a toupee from your coochie hair
>>32342903Buy him some rogaine
Is there a woman equivalent to being bald?
>>32342909turning 25
>>32342894I genuinely think a lot of mine comes from not getting attention from a woman. I think I'm pretty virtuous and live up to my principles, but I also have always wanted to get married ever since I can remember even as a kid, so 0 romantic experience and constant romantic rejection has severely damaged me. A few rejections here and there but also getting dates would be one thing, but absolute rejection just tells me there's something so fucking wrong with me, I must be horrible
>>32342903Great amounts of blowjobs and cum swallowing.
>>32342895I can't grow a beard. It's patchy and it looks awful.
>>32342904Yeh, lots of guys do that.
>>32342894They're not going to like my answerAttention from men didn't fix my self esteem actually liking myself as a person fixed it. There were definitely several years after getting positive attention and even having boyfriends where I wasn't there yet.I DO think the experience of dating helped me to "decide" I had self worth and didn't have to put up with people who didn't see that worth and/or align with my personal values. So I think they are at a disadvantage in that way because they don't have the chance to intimately get to know another person and realize "wait I'm fine you ain't shit either no one is we're all just putting on a front I might as well put on one I LIKE".
>>32342903If I had one girl who loved me despite balding then I would be happy.
>>32342903You can and should wax his genitals for him
>>32342876Are you sure??? Some guy even say it hurts
>>32342910Lol. Isn't it more like 30?
>>32342909Black women do go bald, and earlier than the men do. Beyond that I guess grey hairs or wrinkles?
>>32342911What principles of yours are you living up to? Talking about actions and not morals. Like do you have a good job, are you financially responsible, are you disciplined (at least in things you care about).I'm not necessarily trying to call you out on those, but I'm just wondering if you mean that like you're fundamentally a good person with good morals, vs. a person living up to some of their potential, which is more what I meant in the question.
Femanons, how often do you think about your future husband?
>>32342909saggy tits
>>32342863No, she's just inexperienced. She hasn't figured out how to move up and down yet
>>32342918Serious question. How do you learn to like yourself?
>>32342921Yes I'm sure. If it hurts him he is just weak.Nothing is sexier or feels better than when a woman is enjoying herself and orgasms on your dick.
>>32342904Answering as a 30+ year old buthot>>32342914That is really unfortunate and I'm sorry. If it makes you feel better I know a guy who didn't start trying to grow one until his late 20s and it came in looking like shit but after several years does look considerably better 1 because he stopped shaving and traumatizing the hairs and 2 because he learned what styles he can actually pull off with the hair he has. Full beard is not for him. Just like I can't wear tube tops. C'est la vie
>>32342925nta but isn't that because generally black women do shitty hairstyles that pull at the scalp?
>>32342927Well, I have a husband right now so...
>>32342930How are we supposed to move up and down… I assume it’s a squat motion?
>>32342929I don't think that's the same thing. That's not as obvious as losing your hair.
>>32342894I thought being more attractive to women would make me happier, so I went and spent a few years in the gym until I got a nice body and I also spend a lot more time on my hair and skin now, dress flashier, etc. I have to admit it's a nice self esteem boost to get chatted up or even catcalled, but I ended up getting a lot more satisfaction out of some public recognition I got for my artistic outlets, namely people paying a lot of money for them and telling me they were good lol.
>>32342936LOL and they damage it with heat and chemicals and wig glue
>>32342929I'd argue that saggy isn't really an issue so much as overall shape. Of course big boobs are going to sag somewhat, that's just gravity.
>>32342909being ugly probs
>>32342936That and massive amounts of chemical damage from all the products they need for "good hair".
>>32342931To be completely honest with you?Be over the age of 25And fake it til you make itStop saying mean shit to yourself and compliment yourself instead even if at first you mean it as a joke. And realize that other people are just as clueless and sometimes terrible as you you just don't get to see it like you see with yourself. If you put a microscope to someone other than yourself there's plenty you wouldn't like.And if there are things about you you see as problems that you need to change? Try. And commend yourself for trying rather than beating yourself up for not doing it fast enough. Positive reinforcement is scientifically proven to get better results than negative. If you are kind to yourself you will slowly improve.
>>32342936The majority of baldness among black women in the USA is caused by hair products and treatments, yes, it's not so much pulling at the scalp as it is constant exposure to high heat and various chemicals that kills off the follicles.
Would you rather your husband cheat on you with>A really hot model type woman>Fat woman that doesn't look good>A guyWhich would be worst?
>>32342936I'm a black woman but yeh... the desire to have "white woman" hair is common.
>>32342936>>32342943>>32342949black men also bald much faster than other races so it's mainly genetics for black girls aswell
>>32342944Nta but the overall shape of saggy tits is bad >>32342952I think I would be most insulted by the fat woman, least insulted by the guy.
>>32342909Going grey.
>>32342915>>32342935We're so back
>>32342952I’d rather he be gay because then I can blame it on deep internalized homophobia Worst would be the hot model because she would mog me and I’d be the ugly wifeFat woman wouldn’t be so bad because everyone would make fun of him for cheating on a thin woman with a fat one
>>32342931Treat yourself like you would a friend.
>>323428945% vs 95%
>>32342932What if he tells me to stop
>>32342864Just do things that feel good for you. As a guy, as long as my dick's going in and out, it feels good. It feels better when she's feels good cause she gets tighter. I also like it when she squeezes me, especially when I'm halfway in.What grinding thing?
Going to get fat then get married men to cheat on their thin wifes with me.
>>32342952A black man
>>32342957Gonna have to disagree there. A bit of sag, like a teardrop shape is nice. Too much or weirdly stretched out though isn't, right.
>>32342969Unhinged post and the sad part is that it will work. Once again the human race as a whole disappoints me.
State gender and ageWhat gift would you ask your partner/family member for if you had to give a straight answer
>>32342952M but answering anyway.The guy next door to me cheated on his hot dance instructor wife who he had 7 kids with and his affair partner was a big fat lady from his work. Blows my mind to this day, maybe his ex wife is a monster or something behind closed doors but she always seemed pleasant when I talked to her, plus with 7 kids worth of child support I can't imagine he's living it up wherever he is now.
>>32342969why are women like thisall i asked for is a nice, loyal wife and mom,
>>32342968When she’s fully seated but kind of grinding back and forth instead of going up and down
>>32342974Way too vague. A partner is not a family member. A sister is not a brother is not a dad is not... etc.
>>32342977Having that many kids inevitably makes couples hate each other.
>>32342977Men are retarded but 7 kids is a lot how was she not fat after that
>>32342979>>32342973I just want to annoy the skanks that think being skinny makes them so much better than fat people. They deserve to have their marriage destroyed.
>>32342985calories in and calories out
>>32342926Oh, yeah I took it more as the moralsHonestly though I don't have a lot of ideals and goals like that. I want to be someone that puts ideas and enjoyment into the world through media, and I'm currently pursuing two avenues towards that. But I know in my heart that if I achieve any of that, I'll feel as empty as I do now if I don't have a partner. I've achieved other goals and had the same experienceI don't have a great job but I like the work that I do, and I think I qualify as financially responsible and disciplined in my life
>>32342974M 35A bottle of liquor or wine that looks like something I'd actually like and not just what was closest to the door, or a scented candle that has a good earthy scent, no flowers or fruits. Fuck me this question just made me realize how low my standards for gifts are.
JH is my bitch.
>>32342985Women don't gain that much weight during child birth in the first place, it's just been normalized to let them balloon up. And obviously the weight isn't permanent.
>>32342985More like how did she have time ti be a dance instructor. Her husband must have been loaded to afford a nanny and a house keeper. She probably got liposuction too then.
>>32342981Just pick whichever one you want or all of them
>>32342987>being skinny makes them so much better than fat peopleThey're right.
>>32342985nta but dance instructor seems like you'd get a lot of exercise.
>>32342987Sounds like some sort of personal jealousy on your part, a deeply embedded kind, I have no urge to cuck other men, if I had the chance to cuck Chad I wouldn't, ask yourself why you actually want to do this instead of finding love for yourself.
>>32342985Not every woman treats pregnancy as an excuse to gain 100lbs, my wife and I have had 3 kids and she's the same weight she was when I met her.Seven though... yeah, it's impressive.
>>32342987Being healthy is better.
>>32342991No! JH IS MY BITCH!!!!! I'LL FIGHT YOU NIGGƏR
>>32342987I am better than fat people because I’m skinny though
>>32342909Wrinkles
>>32343000she's anorexic your wife
>>32342987Skinny people ARE better than fat people in most cases. Fat people generally have no impulse control.
There's a porn niche about cheating on your wife with fat women
>>32342998I can do both and I hate people that think they are better than fat people because my little brother got bullied badly for being a bit chubby due to medical reasons. They all deserve to hang. They do not deserve happiness. Fucking vain pieces of shit.
>>32342972>teardropSo like a normal boob. Not saggy. Look up the stages of breast ptosis and tell me where it gets gross.
>>32343008Men will fuck anything Dick is easier to find than clean water
I also just hate having a beard.How can I learn to embrace my bald spot and not be depressed and anxious?
>>32343010What medical reason
>>32343007I mostly agree, but the best people I've ever known are people who have been fat, or periods where they were fat (like, inadvertently, not as a publicity stunt for your fitness coach instagram or whatever), but are fit now.
>>32343017go bald
>>32343010>chubby due to medical reasons.no he's chubby because he consumes more calories than he burns
>>32343010While I agree getting fat without the condition to hurt yourself and others is not the way to go about it.
>>32343010The people who bully fat people are usually other fat people Skinny people usually have decorum and manners
>>32343013Just sent my tinder match a pic of a bottle of water, lets see how this goes
>>32343020I won't get into shaving my head unless it gets insanely bad.
>>32342987based. most marriages are a joke
>>32342969Why would I do that?
>>32342974Male 29My go to answer is just nothing, I don't want anythingBased on things I'm saving for, a bikeBut I would never want someone to buy me a bikeIf someone absolutely insists on giving me a gift I'd rather it be something they found on their own and thought I'd like. It's the thought that counts, and the surprise is fun. I rarely buy stuff off people's lists
>>32343025Good luck <3 but I wish you weren’t texting other girls :/ I wish you were txting me instead
>>32343020Are you bald?
>>32343011>Look up the stages of breast ptosis and tell me where it gets gross.I... o-ok...Grade 3 and parenchymal imo. Grade 2 is totally fine imo if they're large.
Why don’t guys who have receding hair lines just grow out their bangs
>>32343024Nah skinny people bully fat people and other skinny people bully average to other skinny people. Many such cases.
>>32343019Those ones are different because they realize how bad being fat really is.
>>32343035Bangs are the mark of the beast
>>32343032give me a razor and 15 minutes. will be as shiny as a pearl
>>32343025>>32343031do you guys know each other?
>>32343035It's really hard to style that without looking greasy or like that guy from Fargo.
>>32343031You are almost certainly not in MN sadly
>>32343018Craniopharyngiomas
>>32343045What hair type do you have?
>>32343035I got a french crop recently to cover it. Just praying it stops receding and its just a mature one. Once it recedes after a certain point the wind becomes ur mortal enemy
>>32343042not on your head
>be empathetic>understand that any interaction a woman has with a guy she doesn't know is probably at least a bit unnerving since there's no way to know their intentions>can't get this out of the back of my mind any time I try to talk to somebody in line at the grocery store or whatever>dating apps make me want to kill myselfI wish I was gay or a eunuch
>>32343035Nice, now my front looks like an M
>>32343045Or a serial killer
>>32343045Yeah i got the same issue, texture powder sorts it out nicely but it dries the scalp and can make it worse
I wish everyone a blessed day, except for anon 3.
>>32343053but as a woman , I don’t have hair anywhere else ! that’s unnatural ! (joke)
>>32343052The wind was my enemy when I had that dye fad with one side a different color.
>>32343059yeah fuck anon 3 im anon :3
>>32342967Hes a coward, simple.
>>32343059Hey fuck you too
>>32343065based
>>32343055femanons here shit on cold approach all the time, especially at the storeit's over
>>32343057I think the guy from Fargo IS a serial killer lol.
>>32343067How much I miss anon 2 and anon 1…
>>32343055Not true I had an entirely wholesome interaction with a man who truly could not find the peanut butter in Walmart once
>>32343071So many fucking examples of this shit.
Women, I want to be fixed. Are you interested in a man to wants be fixed?
>>32343045Billy Bob Thornton can get it even with that haircut. But yeah it's bad.
>mfw I got something for a manlet off a high shelf in a grocery store today.
>>32343080He just wanted to check out your bum
>>32343035Bangs are really cute on guys.Makes me want to bang em.
>>32343011One is stage 1, the other stage 2. I should kms right now.
>>32343077That last one's debatable.
>>32343080This is why they don't learn. Stop feeding the strays.
>>32343069I don't want strange men to have my number so they can stalk me.
>>32343085Why are school shooters always so hot.
>>32343075Yeah but was your immediate gut reaction not one of distrust?
>>32343077As we all know, women hate violent looking men
>>32343084I'm stage 1 right now and they're not dense at all they're basically a liquid. Look hot in bras and try not to think about it too hard <3
Women, would this kinda hairstyle be acceptable on a much younger guy?
>>32343079Okay obviously I’m a dude so probably not the best judge of this type of thing but I always figured he was an average looking dude that got by on actual good acting instead of looks. Sometimes girls surprise the shit out of me by telling me who’s hot. Also check out Monsters Ball if you’re into him. He fucks the shit out of Halle Berry in that movie.
>>32343094My god how I hate my boobs. I want to cut them off.
Just knowing that because I'm losing my hair women will view me as subhuman is such a bummer. I'm not mad at them. I'm just sad. I hate knowing that even if I eat right and exercise, it's pretty much over for me as far as being attractive goes.
>>32343069With cold approach you have to make it immediately clear you're being respectful and arent a threat, which requires some finesse. Naturally a girl on 4chan is gonna attract schizos and druggies because that's the energy theyre putting out and have bad experiences with it
>>32343091>distrustMy immediate reaction is to assess for red flags so technically distrust but you should be like that with all people. If a woman I don't know approaches me I'm the same way. "What do they want?"
>>32343098Just Johnny Sins maxx
>>32343098Get on Finasteride and Minoxidil, literally every actor is on at least fin
>>32343090Not always
>>32343105That stuff only works a little bit, and you have to do it every single day and I hate the feeling of goop on my hands.
>>32343109>serial killer bangs again
>>32343099>Naturally a girl on 4chan is gonna attract schizos and druggies because that's the energy theyre putting outI think it's because femanons look meh so bottom of the barrel guys think they have a chance
>>32343096I'm not really a big fan of older guys but he's aged relatively well. And of course it's hard to divorce him from his roles. I like the way he speaks.
>>32343105your hair falls back out when you stop taking it, and it can have sexual side effects (not the good kind)
>>32343110Autism?
>>32343112Yeah that too. That's why super hot women dont have that femcely bitterness about them, they get the full gentleman treatment
>>32343119Yeah
>>32343109I doubt this lad was still in school when this pic was taken.
Ugly woman + bald guy?
