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>talking to a girl at work
>other female coworker shows up
>she stops in the middle of both of us and stares at her for 3 seconds
>other girl starts laughing
>ask her what's so funny
>she ignores me and continues talking
What does it mean? Were they making fun of me? The other girl has also acted weird around me every now and then too.

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How do you discern if you’re in the friendzone or if she is just waiting for you to be direct? Like is there a certain key phrase or formula to a conversation?

>inb4 if you have to ask it’s already over
Assume im autistic

If a girl stopped initiating texting me, and cancelled a date and never explained what happened or why, should I just ask her if she's still interested in seeing each other or should I just forget about her? Our last date went really well so I'm just confused at this point

>>32552127
she kept saying stuff like next time this and next time that so... :/

>>32552127
Just forget about her, she's clearly not interested.

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>>32551880
>hundreds of htgwg later
>still no actionable advice
>muh be high status an be chad
>still no proof women even want men
Is this the stupidest thread on all of 4chan? Just go and jerk off to porn niggers.

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I’m telling you guys, anything is possible. Don’t ever get up, keep grinding, keep hustling, shoot for your dreams.

You can do anything you want, I promise you. You just have to take that first step, take that hard step of actually doing something.

>>32552705
>still no proof women even want men
Have you never actually talked to a woman?

>>32552982
>women like men bro
>you just need to be shredded, 10% body fat, tall, dress well, have a lot of friends and be charismatic, high social status, have a nice car, have a ton of hobbies, a full head of hair else spend 10 grand on surgeries, work towards becoming a ceo, approach women regularly, be assertive with dates, pay for her, escalate things the right way, and not expect more than a 5% success rate bro
are you listening to yourself

Is there anything that women find more unnattractive than shyness/anxiety?

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This shit is all hopeless. Women want a genuine dude with a good personality and nice job. Beauty fades, dumb is forever. Yall are the problem, improvement under false pretenses is always clear to us. That's why these snake oil links never work for you. Get real help, find yourself and love will naturally come.

>>32553256
Shyness is kinda cute, the most unattractive trait I could think of is being a fat NEET

>>32552705
Bro the amount of humiliation I put myself through is enough proof women like men, we shouldn't tho, but we like. I envy those women who just hate men and don't give a shit about them, but hey, they're so cute, how could I resist?

This girl I went out with and have been messaging with told me she went out on a date. I asked her out recently twice and she said she can't because she was busy. I think she's free to do whatever she likes, but I feel kinda shit that she didn't ask me. I acted like I didn't care.

>>32552705
>>still no proof women even want men
They may not want you or this "plainscott" fag from twitter, but trust me, they want men.
Even your own sour grapes complaining about chad alludes to this fact. Or do chads not count as men?

>>32553702
I don't care much for wine at all but I'd still enjoy a Domaine Romanee-Conti

>>32553746
Since I'm assuming that's a wine, you're only proving my point.
There is a big difference between "I don't like most wines" and "I don't like any wine". We have specific words in the English language that have specific meanings for a reason, guys.

How do I get me some bitches?

>>32551880
I guess this thread best for these questions.
>be American
>have a thing for Russian girls
>get dating app to try and talk with them
>don’t really know how to do online dating or Russian dating culture in general
How would I go about getting past the online and cultural barriers? I got no issue talking to women but just don’t want to ruin my chances by fucking up culturally or by not knowing how to go about talking online.
TY in advance

>>32553788
Why are you beating your head against this particular wall? "Being natively Russian" shouldn't be anywhere near your priorities when it comes to dating.

>>32553154
Men with none of that get laid all the time. All your ranting tells me is that you're balding and insecure
>approach women regularly, be assertive with dates
And a lazy pussy, too.

I asked, how do I get me some bitches.

I'm 31. Met this 49 yo cougar at a bar saturday. She's pretty hot, works out, has thick legs, she's a fitness nut.
We made out a bit and had fun but nothing else.
Yesterday I invited her for a run, she ran 3k and I barely ran 1k lmfao... I never run. I'm chubby and she's really fit.

Anyway we didn't even kiss after I took her home from the run, I wasn't feeling like she wanted to.
Later she texted me "revealing" her age (yeah she wouldn't tell me in person) and then said I'm too young for her, and said we could be friends. I agreed "sure we can be friends" (I meant it, she's cool).

Later she said "you were my first kiss this year" and I said "well whenever you want another kiss you can hit me up" lmao.

Not sure she rejected me because of the age difference or she doesn't find me attractive because I'm not fit like her. If she's honest with her reason this could develop into a FWB, I hope.

So the lesson is approach hot cougars? Young women are annoying as hell.

>>32552104
I would just assume that shes not into you if you can't tell.
If you really want to know ask her in a way that isn't dumping your feelings on her (i.e. "hey I have noticed I am feeling this way about you, what do you want me to do with that?" as opposed to "I have been in love with you this whole time").
Alternatively, she could just be a girl who enjoys the cat and mouse/chase game, a pretty common modern strategy - and personally I wouldn't deal with it - shits too confusing as we cannot read minds.
If a girl says no just asssume she means no.

>>32552127
>>32552138
Its a lost cause and shes not interested or its some kind of test.
Best thing to do is to ignore her - if she clocks that you are ignoring her she is into you then if may increase your chances of actually securing, provided you don't come off as desperate if she engages with you again.

>>32554520
low iq nigger, no offence btw

>>32554479
I'm 32 and have pretty much only been dating women older than me off the apps since for whatever reason girls younger than me aren't swiping. That said, if anything they seem more hesitant to hook up than younger women, and a lot of them straight up tell me they have a rule about "no sleeping together on the first date." I think it's partially the meme where a woman's expectations for a man get higher and higher as they get older because they crave stability, while they're not conscious of their SMV falling lower and lower. And to be more empathetic, those older gals probably do have baggage from past relationships and don't want to feel "used" again. If they're dating down in age by a significant amount, sex and temporary companionship is pretty much all that they'd get from such a relationship because it's not going to last. A lot of those women want a guy they can spend their twilight years with, not a guy who still has potential to start a family

I'm losing my sexual attraction to my gf. I genuinely love her and otherwise intend to marry her because we fundamentally get each other and get along great. But I find myself struggling to be turned on sexually by her now.
She is bigger than I'm typically attracted to, and she doesn't bathe as regularly as she probably should. At first, it wasn't an issue, but now I find it hard to have sex with her.
I've offered to work out with her to help her lose weight, but she outright refuses to and claims she wants to exercise alone and in her own way. The bathing thing is partly because of her autism and she doesn't like the sensation of showers.
What do?

What does it mean if a girl at work shows you a picture of what she looks like outside of work

>>32556851
Like, nothing flirty, just a picture of her somewhere else? Sounds like it's just small talk.

>>32552075
Can somebody answer this

>>32557136
Not sure, but I'd assume she was some harpy trying to cockblock.

I've been thinking lately and realized that I've been going about everything backwards.
I don't have any real/social hobbies, so I don't have any real friends, so I reek of negative energy and am not successful dating.
The dating apps are like skipping all of the foundational steps required to build the house. I can't keep a girl around for any time because I have nothing/no one else around me.
So my question is, what kind of hobbies can I pick up to better meet peers? It's difficult to make the jump from the solo hobby to a social hobby, and especially now that it's winter. Should I just start going to a gym and hope a nice Chad adopts me? I don't play basketball or volleyball and not sure how to learn at this point.
Do the friend versions of the apps actually work? I've dipped my toe into it and did not have great results.
Open to basically anything at this point, these last few years have been rough and it's not looking much better for 2025.

>Go to fast food place when school just let out
>All these high school girls very visibly into me
Why the fuck couldn't I get this when I was that age man, I had a 100% rejection rate in high school

>>32557614
>>All these high school girls very visibly into me
They're not, they're just being friendly and you're just desperate. If you don't believe me then just ask one out, 17 year olds are legal in most the US and pretty much all of the rest of the world

>>32557638
Retard

>>32557673
Not an argument. Ask one out you coward and see how into you they actually are.

i know i am not giving you mind-bogglingly innovative advice, but what I can say is quite simple: try.
yes, that's it.
it doesn't matter if your ugly or fat. there are loads of ugly and fat girls out there. if you're ugly and fat (and not wealthy) and desire a girl who isn't a female version of yourself, erm, well, try as many times as you can and pray. the gods might answer.

do not fear rejection. i'm one handsome cunt, physically fit, and, although I have had quite an exciting dating life (not suggesting i fucked hundreds of top models; body count is almost 15), i was rejected a few times, and some of them really pissed me off.

do it.
what I notice when I go out with my girl and we come across a friend who's unwillingly alone is that he or she seldom interact with others. they appear to think that the person they are seeking will fall from the sky.

you can also improve yourself: your looks, your body, and so on. this will raise your chances of success.

i genuinely believe there is no excuse for those who are involuntarily single.
neglect the shit people love to spew about the dating scene. a lot of it is drivel regurgitated by chronic masturbators and pathological liars. or merchants of bullshit.

>>32557707
Ironically this is probably also true in the opposite direction. There are probably girls out there who'd be great for the average anon, but they also don't get out there.

>>32557399
yes, go the gym.
improving your appearance will massively enhance your self-esteem and increase your willingness to do stuff, rather than loitering about the house.
believe me. i was always a vain motherfucker, but i reached new heights of vanity when I decided to go to the gym and execute a proper plan (from fit to lustfully fit).

bro, i was (still am, but now i have someone I love so I have tamed my fondness for parading myself) a dude who used to workout a lot, after I attained a certain physical appearance, only to be lusted after by the females and envied by the men.

you're in a spiral of negativity. break that shit.
start with going to the gym. it's easy, doesn't require talking to others, and so on. there, you can easily meet dudes, make new friends, insert yourself in other people's already developed circle of friends!

>>32557719
solitude and shyness aren't male-exclusive problems/attributes, mate.

i know couples who could've met before, but both kept presuming that the other wasn't interested.
i ain't kidding.

Bros, where do I find a woman that will not destroy my life and is actually loving and not manipulative?

quick question. i'm quite underweight and usually become very very ill whenever i actively try to gain any, don't know why its like that but it is. can do most normal tasks without issue, but shit like heavy lifting becomes a problem for me because im literally too light to do it
regardless - am i pretty much barred from entry to relationships because of this? haven't tried asking yet, but curious what you guys think beforehand. 5'8 & ~115-120lbs fyi

Do people in other countries have an easier time dating than in the US?

>>32557707
>i genuinely believe there is no excuse for those who are involuntarily single.
I saw the ugliest mother fucker on konbini confessions mention something about his girlfriend's friend and I unironically never had more confidence, if this dude can do it so can I

>>32558663
I guarantee you that she’s a hideous fatty who smells like a sewer.

Anons on here can deny the lookspill all they want but ultimately genetics is what matters and reality will punch you in the face eventually.

>>32558702
Shut the fuck up incel nobody cares

>>32551880
daily reminder of that faggot that lurks here and doxxes people

Do not post anything even mildly relevant to anything you do or have done. This website is utterly fucking worthless.

>>32557707
>friend who's unwillingly alone is that he or she seldom interact with others. they appear to think that the person they are seeking will fall from the sky.

This whole post is really good advice, and this described me for a while until a few months ago. Where did you meet your gf?

>>32551880
Is it worth going to a night club alone to ask girls out and have fun? I’m not particularly shy, but I’m not sure I’ll be able to secure a friend or a company for a white girl pop themed night in a couple of days. It would be a great plus if I happen to make friends and expand my network anyway.

>>32557673
>"These girls are so into me."
>"Yeah? Ask one out and find out."
>"N-no, that's retarded..."

lmao

I have a problem. My dick is set to colonizer mode at the moment. All my area really has is black girls but on dating apps they let the convo die off of if we do end up talking. Where do I go to ambush black chicks that want to end up on leashes

Have you ever met a woman who seemed innocent and very nice but was actually lying to you all the time?
>been talking to a girl
>we slept together and kissed etc but nothing official
>she always mentions some male friends
>she always says that she is just nice to everyone and doesn't want to hurt anyone's feelings so she chats with them and meets them
>caught her in a lie today, she said that she has never been to a certain place (it's like a club of some sort), when in fact I vividly remember her declining to come to my place because she was going there
>call her out
>she says "oh I just left quickly"
>says that they talk about her there, if she's ever going to show up and says she knows about it from one guy we both know (they are obviously talking too)

On one hand I know her well enough to know that she is nice and outgoing but at the same time I'm starting to think that I'm letting my dick and my loneliness cloud my mind.

>>32558911
at the gym.
i rarely engage with other people while training, but we'd been eye-flirting with each other since day 1.
One day we found ourselves almost alone at the gym (reason:dreadful weather), and I decided to make a move.
Move? nothing too "i'm an expert at flirting" stuff: i simply, from far away (she was squatting, i was pushing the sled), pointed at my back to kind of tell her that she must pay attention to her form when squatting (she wasn't doing anything wrong, btw; :)).
she understood and smiled. then i went to her and we started to talk. I praised the intensity of her workouts and how much weight she lifts. she did the same. what made it happen was my asking her if I could exercise with her. the tone of her yes spoke for itself.
As soon as I opened my mouth I knew.
This happened in 2021.

>>32558205
keep trying until it happens. you won't know everything you need to know about a girl before spending a considerable amount of time with her, presuming that awkward shit doesn't happen right at the beginning.

>>32559116
yes. doing the smallest thing is better than doing fu** all, which is what most people who decry their solitude do.

...

dudes' and lasses' dating lives out there are being destroyed by two factors: the bullshit said about dating, women and men (which is injecting everyone with either fear of rejection or contempt for the other side), and their unwillingness to do something to change their situation.
i simply cannot overemphasise the following point: most people who want someone aren't doing anything to make it happen.
again: go to the gym, set a target, chase it! this will imbue you with drive. after, with confidence. things are easier when you look at yourself and like it.
if there one suggestion often made today about the dating scene that I wholeheartily agree with, is the one about "going to the gym".
feeling good about youself does wonders for everything which requires determination.

>>32560210
You are getting them to bite but fumbling it maybe think about what you are saying to them. Some black women are on guard about being just a notch in the bedpost

>>32560349

i would never date a girl I managed to sleep with at the first chance.

>>32561115
>>32561127
Maybe I should have clarified, we didn't fuck, we just slept in the same bed, cuddling.

>>32551880

There is this girl in my class i want to ask out i've had a crush on her for about 7 months i was thinking about going up to her one day and asking for number or social media like

"Hey do you have snapchat by any chance" or ask for her number. I'm not sure i've never asked a woman out i've known her for a couple months mostly just talked to her every now and again is this how i should go about it? any advice i was thinking of asking her in between classes

>>32561127
Every girl I've had an LTR with slept with me on the first date including virgins. You just don't lay the good pipe to keep them happy.

How can I date asian girls? There are asian girls who I regularly see in my daily life (work, events, etc...), but they seem so inapproachable like I am out of their league and they will only date other asians. Is it just me that thinks this with people who are from a different culture than mine.

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Men have declared spiritual jihad on women and it shows as they slowly begin to lose it. This is it anons, the real gender war has begun, not the fake one with countless pronouns that is being shilled everywhere in the media, but the real gender war between man and woman.
Women are about to learn a harsh lesson.

Don't talk to women, don't help them, don't ask them out, don't have dating apps, don't interact with them. If a woman approaches you be nice and respectful but do not flirt or overtly joke, treat them as an equal man and then leave after the reason for the conversation is over. If a girl comes up to you and flirts kindly turn her down, if she asks you out suddenly say no thank you, don't make up a reason she only has agency because of some external reason not because she likes you. Be vague when talking about your life or weekend plans, anything you do or do with them like hooking up will be picked apart and analyzed by her and her online friends. You are a traitor and not helping anyone if you fall for their tricks.

If men can't display a modicum of power over society, this world and women, then I guess they don't hold much power at all.

>>32552075
Best case, lady you talked to is crushing on you but doesn't advance it. The other one knows and knows that you don't. She's laughing about your obliviousness.

Worst case, the one interrupting was checking if the one you were talking to is really as low as to be interested in an insult to mother nature like you. She's laughing about your quality as a potential partner and the one you talked to either brushed her off, or is embarassed to be put in that position just for talking to you (which she didn't intend to be put in a romantic context).

Either way, damned if you do, damned if you don't. Don't read into it and get on with your life. Should one of them really be interested in you, you'll notice (or be completely oblivious to it and notice years later).

>>32561127
You can't get a girl to stick around if you take too long to fuck her

>>32561814
See the thing is the girl who stood in the middle of us has done some weird shit in the past (we'll call them girl A & girl B to make things easier), for instance, once Girl A asked me to make her a sandwich, she did that thing where she crossed her arms behind her back and leaned forward, smiled, etc. and when Girl B saw this she quickly looked over to us like a hawk and kept staring for like 3 seconds and then looked away. And once, I was standing behind Girl B because I needed to do something on her unit, while I was standing there she threw her arm back really hard while opening the bag for her order, and nearly hit me in the balls causing me to go back and yell a bit, she apologized but it sounded so insincere and sarcastic and when I looked up, both Girl A and Girl B were looking at each other and smiling. Apart from that, I was once talking to another girl who doesn't talk to either of them, it was a like a long horizontal counter, she was on one side and I was on the other, and Girl B literally again, gets in between us, walks really slowly, and walks super close to me to the point where we're standing shoulder to shoulder. She also looks directly at me whenever I talk to anyone and immediately looks down, Girl A doesn't do this ever and almost seemed annoyed the day I was actually trying to talk to her. So what do you make of that? Hopefully it's not too complicated.

>>32562034
Girl B sounds like a feminist that hates men and thinks you're a rapist or a dyke trying to assert dominance like some kind of animal.

>>32561712
self-fulfilling prophecy

>>32562055
She isn't, most of the guys at work have a crush on her and simp hard for this girl and are always squabbling to get her attention. I'm the only one who doesn't talk to her simply because I don't find her that interesting.

>>32562095
Oh, that changes things then. With the information from that post, that was my best guess.

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>>32562034
>>32562095
Girl B is jealous of all the attention you're giving to the other girls and wants a slice, and the fact that you're the only guy there not simping for her makes her want you even more, at least that's my best guess. Not sure whether she likes you or just wants your attention, but the point is, if you play your cards right, you might be able to get with either one of those two girls.

is there any hope at all for ugly guys to get a gf? Ive done everything i can to improve my looks and I still cant even find a woman who is willing to speak to me irl or on the dating apps. red pill/pua crap doesn't do anything if you cant even get a conversation. please I am begging for anything that actually works

>>32562399
Describe to me how you're ugly and I might give you some tips, if it's just bone structure then just do what every guy does and save up money to get plastic surgery.

>>32562412
yeah its bone structure. recessed jaw and cheekbones, plus ive been losing my hair, ill likely get to the point where i have to shave it off soon

>>32562647
>The national average cost for a chin implant is $3,379, but the total cost can range from $2,500 to $8,000 or more. The cost depends on the type of implant, the extent of the augmentation, the surgeon's expertise, and the location.

>The average cost for cheek implants is around $3,876, but this doesn't include anesthesia, operating room facilities, or other expenses. The cost can be reduced if the procedure is done with other facial plastic surgery.

>>32551880
How about how to get friends?

>>32561105
>but we'd been eye-flirting with each other since day 1.
This already speaks volumes about your attractiveness level. I go to the gym every day and am a total ghost to the few women that go there in my age demographic. Should I just start talking to them in the middle of their workouts to gauge interest? I genuinely have no idea how to find a woman, none of them even give me a second glance.

>Use Hinge free edition
>mostly fatties and uggos, swipe right on maybe one out of every ten or 20 girls
>not getting any younger, have spare income, decide to try HingeX for one month subscription
>Now feed is filled with hot women, especially Asians who I tend to swipe right on the most (due to my terminal yellow fever)

Fucking diabolical

>>32563023
They do this on purpose. I've never once swiped right on a black girl, and yet over time I would increasingly get batches of them every single day, and one would be my "most compatible" which doesn't make any fucking sense. I ended up deleting all those stupid apps, they are a scam.

>>32551880
>it’s all about looks bro

I don’t think so. I know a dude who basically looks like a younger Henry Cavill, albeit with brown eyes and not as jacked (though he is still quite fit in a lean type of way) and he jokingly said the other day he’ll probably die alone because he can’t get girls’ interest. And he isn’t even socially retarded, dude has quite a few friends. And before you ask, no he isn’t short, he’s almost 6’1 which is taller than 90% of girls around here.

>>32563038
Yeah haha Hinge's algorithm is exactly like that on the free version. "Oh, you didn't like that fat ugly bitch? Here's 20 more to swipe left on."
They probably are a scam but I've got the money to burn and it's really hard for me to meet women IRL, not to mention I'm just looking to hook up right now not for anything serious

>>32563044
I knew a guy at work who was 6'2, had blue eyes, generally very good looking and vascular (which women love) but he was awkward and barely spoke a word to most women, whenever he did joke around with them though they would all flirt back and blush, I asked him why he hasn't tried anything and he said he was just shy, sad.

>>32563295
a sense of humour, a strong voice and a willingness to assert oneself (for instance, saying no) when others place their feet where they shouldn't have really accomplishes miracles in the field of human relationships.

the average person has the natural tendency to badger the unduly amiable.

I notice this every single day at work.
it's sad, really. it really is.

with women, at the beginning, conducting yourself like a victorian butler won't do anything for you.
you also don't need to behave like you were raised by that tate dude.

>>32563404
None of that matters if you're not attractive, I know this scrawny asian dude who's always trying to play the alpha male but he just comes off as some kid pretending to be a man, it's pathetic. If you don't have the looks to go with your your alpha personality, expect be humbled real quick.

>>32563427
he's a fake alpha. i hate these denominations, btw.

and you don't need to be an alpha to be respected or coveted. i know dudes who aren't talkative, who don't look like van damme, but with whom nobody fucks with.

the rule i think ought to be followed by most is: don't be unduly amiable. don't be going around looking to do favours for others.
and don't stutter because you're too worried about what other people might think about what you want to say.

>>32563574
I prefer to call him an insecure, immature, childish little brat, but that works too. And nobody fucks with you if you keep to yourself, naturally, it's only when you start socializing with everyone that you get dragged into petty squabbles.

Is there any hope for a short (5'4) and boring guy to get a gf at all?
I have a kink for amazons, so my dream girl would be quite taller than me.
How unrealistic is it?

>>32564366
>Is there any hope for a boring guy to get a gf at all?
no

How the fuck do I be sexual/flirty in texts, I'm scared of being too forward or coming off creepy

>>32563023
You won't match with them, it's hope bait and you just flushed money down the toilet

>>32564366
Assuming you're American, you need to look outside the US. You're already shorter than a lot of women. So that shouldn't be too difficult. You're just gotta pass their looks threshold because your "pErSoNaLiTy" is just based off your looks anyway.

i grew a pair of balls and made out with a friend that i knew really liked me, now i have barely heard from her in a few days now when she usually messages me constantly and always tries to get my attention. wtf happened

>>32565934
She confirmed that she has you under her thumb and now she's done with you. You should have pushed for sex.

just dont be fat guys.

>>32566366
This advice only applies to women and it's optional.

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>>32551880
I'm taking this girl out on a first date and I want her to have a great time. I was thinking we'll go visit the art museum and after that maybe we'll go to flea market for some finds.

For context (and 9000000 sec CAPTCHA) she messaged me first, I immediately asked for us to go on a date, she said yes :) and were going tomorrow. We talked on the phone for about half an hour and she's going to study as a conservateur for old paintings and such so I thought art museum would be nice.
Just asking if this is a good idea. She said she doesn't like coffee or tea so coffee-date is no-go.

>>32565454
I'm not a brokie NEET so I can afford to lose $50. That's like, less than my usual bar tab on Friday night.

>>32563044
>>32563295
Reminder than being "alpha"/high-quality as a man doesn't mean you'll be sexually successful. The two are correlated but not causal.
One thing you have to remember, is that being successful usually goes hand in hand with being high-inhibition and taking carefully calculated risks. If you have a triple digit IQ you're aware of the risks of asking woman out like being accused of rape, getting an STD, or just looking like a "creep" in your social circles, especially if you have a successful career. You won't be able to foolishly assert yourself like >>32563404 points out, which is probably the most important thing. If you're a vice president at a Fortune 100 you're not going to gamble on asking out the cute secretary the same way some loser working at Home Depot might ask out his coworker.

A compounding factor is that women tend to "save men for later." The vice president is not going to be a fun, spontaneous guy like the Home Depot guy might be, so when women are having their "hoe phase" they will pick objectively lower quality men because they're more "fun" and they foolishly assume the high quality men will be there for them later. Most women have no conception that their desirability and market value go down both with age and the number of dicks they've taken, they think that at age 30 after taking dozens of cocks they have the same value (or even higher) as when they were 18 and only had one or two cocks. And this is partially caused by feminism and (((progressivism))) that has brainwashed women into valuing themselves for the same traits men do.

TL;DR it's all fucked bro

>>32565434
Thing is, even if you try to be respectful women will still make fun of you or label you a creep, it's only when you stop caring that you really start to get anywhere with women.

>>32567393
>it's only when you stop caring that you really start to get anywhere with women
How does this work in practice? How do I "not care" and also demonstrate interest to random women in public?

>>32567457
It's a catch-22
To not care about women, you have to be confident in your ability to get them because it's easy for you
To be confident in getting women, you have to not care.
The truth is, it's just not going to happen for some guys, no matter how tall, fit, or rich we are. No one on this website has been able to tell me how to break out of this loop, and that's because there is no way. You're fucked, you're never going to get the women you want, just hope one day you randomly catch the eye of some girl who doesn't know or can't tell you're broken.

>>32567457
>>32567480
What works for me is simply approaching the girl and starting a conversation with her. Not feeling of desperation also works, that is, don't act overly friendly or eager to please, don't ask her what she thinks of other guys, reeks of insecurity, etc.

>>32567544
>What works for me is simply approaching the girl and starting a conversation with her.
This is fucking easy and I do this all the time
>Not feeling of desperation also works
I have no fucking idea how to do this especially when I've been incel for over a year and pretty much everyone in my life is going "ANON YOU'RE SUCH A GREAT CATCH YOU HAVE SO MUCH GOING ON AND YOU'RE TALL AND HANDSOME HOW ARE YOU STILL SINGLE?"
I wish I could break the fucking curse of needing women to validate me but I don't fucking know how. Not being able to get a woman just makes me feel like a defective male especially when I see short, ugly, broke losers hooking up all the time.

>>32567544
i can talk to women easy, just treat em like any other people, but i cant talk to women in a way to get a date

>>32563295
sounds kinda like me, and i dont bother because despite my attractive looks i have a small penis and am virgin and i dont want her getting and spreading that info around

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>>32551880
What are some ways I can meet women if my hobbies are stationary? I have problems with my legs so I can't go dancing or to run clubs, but I know women like guys who can cook. But it occurred to me that if I learn to cook there's not really a way for me to show that off to someone unless I'm already dating them, so what do I do

>>32567457
Don't listen to that cocksucker, he finna make you catch a charge or two. Basically, it boils down to looks.
>good looking
Say whatever you want, they'll perceive it positively.
>ugly
No matter what you say, you'll be perceived negatively and you'll suffer the consequences.

>>32567673
Women dgaf if you can cook, they care about your looks. You need to be tall and handsome, nothing else matters. You can't negotiate attraction. You gotta be be more or a Timothy Chalamet and less of a Ricky Berwick.

>>32551880
how do i get a cute black girl

>>32567695
I'm already tall and if not handsome then at least well-groomed and well-dressed. But everyone only notices how I walk all fucked up because of the aforementioned problems with my legs, and I know guys shorter than me that are able to get women, so all this crap about height is bollocks.

>>32552075
They probably think you're cringe

>>32552127
Just ask. The worst she can say is no. But don't be weird, if she says she's no longer interested or sounds like she's trying not to say no but still implying "negatory" just move on

>>32567681
Thank you for the honesty. I get so much advice on how to talk to women and what mindset to have, what body to have, etc. None of it has ever made a bit of a difference. Either the advice is bad or I am just the most unlucky person on the planet, which I don't believe. Which means the advice is bad, and there is some other factor I don't have. No matter how much people try to argue against this, they can't explain why I can't get women without resorting to speculation like "you need to shower" (I do every day) and "you need to wear nice clothes" (I do). It makes a lot more sense to say "most women just don't find your attractive" which is more in line with my entire lifetime of experience.

>>32565934
not gonna lie i did this with a few guys. In the moment it's enjoyable but later on I realize I wasn't romantically attracted to them, just sexually, and then I regret my decision and distance myself. A lot of women need to be both in love with a guy AND want to fuck them to stick around.

>>32567457
>How does this work in practice?
Not being outcome focused. Like, not saying things you think women need/want to hear to get pussy. Not going through activities or things you don't otherwise enjoy just to get pussy.
>How do I "not care" and also demonstrate interest to random women in public?
By demonstrating interest and being able to take no for an answer and move on to the next person who gets your attention.

"Not caring" means not caring about rejection. You can't become overinvested in women, especially not random women, trying to turn hard "nos" into "maybes." When it comes to dating, taking the path of least resistance and doubling down on women you click with that show interest in you is better than hounding women that aren't interested at all.

>>32567787
>Not going through activities or things you don't otherwise enjoy just to get pussy.
But then I will literally never meet a woman. I work from home, all of my hobbies can be done by myself or at home, the only time I *need* to go into public where there are other people is at the gym, which is 80% men where I live.

Why does every girl I talk too automatically assume I have a crush on them? Shits annoying as hell, I could try making small talk to some girl at work because I'm bored and want to socialize a little and all of a sudden rumors start spreading that either she or I like each other, I don't see this shit happening to other guys, most guys I see talking to women have a friendly and playful vibe but they still remain platonic, just once I want to meet someone who can I just simply vibe and chill with since I don't have a lot of friends. And before anyone tries taking a jab at my looks, no, I've been hit on, I've had girlfriends, I've had sex, it's nothing about being a "creep".

>>32567715
You're not as good-looking as you think, then. You should be able to attract women no problem being tall and supposedly handsome.

>>32567737
No problemo, I am glad to you take my words to heart. Despite what you may think, I speak empathetically.

>>32567698
be white

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>be me in college
>not much money, poor taste in style, boyish look
>don't go more than a couple months without being in a relationship with a highly intelligent and attractive woman
>be me now
>decent job, money, car, better taste in everything, more willing to commit, developed prefrontal cortex, more masculine in every way
>single with next to no options, and the options i do have (from dating apps...) are not interesting in the slightest
what the fuck happened? was unifag right?

>>32567865
Unifag was wrong if he existed like 10-15 years ago. Unfortunately he becomes more correct every single day in the current year. The only socially acceptable place for a man to look for women is in university now.

>>32567865
Huh, I don't remember posting this, which is funny because this is literally me

My only dating pool is my dead end job at walmart I work in the backroom how do I start conversations with the girls from other departments sometimes a cute one will come to the back to look for items or others will be in the break room but I am awkward and dont know how to start or carry conversations can i get some examples?

>>32558280
go for women who are less female brained that average
you should still like I dunno ask a doctor about this sounds fucked up

>>32562896
Same way as finding a woman but lower stakes and there's no subtext of wanting to fuck them. Just be yourself and find social outlets for your intetrsts and hobbies

>>32563023
Congrats you actually payed money to learn something you could've figured out by observing. When you first download or reactivate after months away, they stack the deck with high value profiles and push you in front of more people for the first few days and then you end up with the dregs. The odds of you matching with the each subsequent batch of daily likes drop exponentially every day

>>32567480
You break out of the loop by not expecting a girlfriend out of it. Try to just talk to them like people (dont have to simp or white knight even) and see if theyre receptive. Work your way up from there.

How do I ask older women out?

There is this woman who I want to enter a casual relationship with. Right now we just met and she doesn't know I like her, but we have talked a few times, get along and I know her friends pretty much.

My current plan is to just message her and ask to take her out to something light like a coffee or whatever. Because of the age gap (I am in my 20's, she is in her 40's), I feel like it won't go anywhere, but that's fine, because another woman will come along eventually.

>>32566792
>Yeah well, I'm not broke heh
Not being broke doesn't mean spend stupidly, you're the dumbass they rake in the millions on, but keep paying for those false promises, it'll pay off someday!

>>32569673
K brokie sure, keep paying your taxes because my business runs off those

>>32569500
older women aren't interested in shenanigans. just talk to her and ask her out, being mindful that a date for an older women isn't the same as for some young girl.
if you doubt this, try the many youtube accounts ran to cougars. there are some apparently because of the following:
one enigmatically appeared on my suggestions the other day: this over 60 year old woman (quite good-looking) dating some dude who looked younger than 40. after having watched 5 seconds of the video to check what it was about, my suggestions have been littered with videos of very good-looking "gilfs" talking about dating younger men, penis size, how to make them orgasm, etc.

i've been told and read some really interesting stuff about dating older women.
might have a go myself.

>>32568169
you yourself said it: you're awkward. well. "un-awkward" yourself.
try talking about the item the girl is looking for.
it's easy to make most women laugh.
be the serious dude - don't be the moron who's always ready to help others - who has a sense of humour. women dig a man with who can make jokes.
if look and behave weak and are always making other people laugh, you'll be perceived as a clown, and your sense of humour will be seen as a by-product, not of you being an extrovert, of a will to please others.

>>32556788
Bring your concerns up to her. She will understand if you don't come across like a spazz. Also don't be too blunt about it.

>>32551880

Where does this general get all the pictures of below average girls sitting at tables, smiling as if they're on a first date or something? Are they were creep shots and there's a pile of them hoarded away or what?

>>32570810
socials threads on /b/

What do you guys think about dating 18yos?
I'm 25 and going on a date tomorrow morning with an 18yo I matched with on Hinge. I'm mostly concerned about the age gap being such that I wind up treating her like a kid.
She also seems way too eager for my tastes which suggests to me that she enjoys the potential unequal power dynamic that the age gap presents, which I'm really not about. I am not attracted to weak-willed women whose hand I have to hold through life.

Women are like twice as smart socially compared to men (on average).
Once I started assuming that women could see 10 moves ahead of me in social interactions, my ability to interact with them skyrocketed. I literally just assume they can read minds.

asked out a girl at a store I frequent thinking she’d be a down to earth girl and whilst she is to some extent she m’s also super social, loves partying and going to gigs. had our first date with her tonight and she wanted to go to a gig after. went there with her and nearly the entire time I was wishing I was somewhere else. kissed her and I guess had a good time but as I was driving home I couldn’t help but feel 2 things
1. we are incompatible
2. I can do better
feels terrible bros

>>32571008
Women are generally weak-willed, much like children. 18 year olds especially so, but this extends to all ages. Unfortunately I don't have good news for you, I too wanted a woman who I didn't have to hand-hold throughout life. I found one; she was very intelligent and independent, but even then demonstrated a strong preference to basically be babied by me as the man. There is a reason so many women use the term "daddy."

>>32571008
Just give it a shot and see how she actually behaves. Seems like she may just be giddy and excited for a date. Because youre right, 18 is still teenage, like she's closer in maturity to a 15 year old than to you. Young enough that there's a significant chance that she's an inexperienced dork looking for her first boyfriend and has all these romanticized expectations.
For her sake just do your best make your mind up after the first date and let her down gently if she's too immature for your tastes. Don't string her along for multiple dates, it's a pretty dickish behavior

My current and first gf is a few years younger and loves me very much. She's kinda intelligent and prude but a blank canvas of a person due to the way she was raised. There is nothing interesting about her that would get my gears grinding, not even her looks. I always rationalize and have to remind myself how she is a great and loyal person and how losing her would be an idiot move which it would.

We're both virgins, however, unlike her, I have a solid mileage when it comes to e-dating and sexting, i'm specifically tempted to reach out to some divorced 11yrs older bbw from my previous roster for the time being just to make living at uni a little bit more livable. Tell me why shouldn't I do this. P.S. we're probably never going to fuck due to the distance, just some small talk and ass pics

>>32571692
Bro don't be a retard, come on. Do you really need to ask why you shouldn't do this?

Welcome back everybody on the slowest and most boring general on 4chan with 0 discussion

>>32571705
Eh, we are just starting and she's an incredible bore. The type of woman you need to invest in like in bitcoin so that you can see the fruits of your patience a few years later. Thought it would be inconsequential to help myself a little these couple of weeks. Oh well.

>>32571046
I'm such a giga schizo women can't read me at all I'm 20 steps down the trenches

>OP says this isn't about doom posting.
>Every honest post is people admitting that there is no golden answer and that you are fucked.

>>32571765
No golden answer doesn't mean you're fucked, just that it takes work. Good relationships are made, not found.

>>32571765
>>Every honest post is people admitting that there is no golden answer and that you are fucked.
What the fuvck did you think? Life is about how well you read the room, there is no be all end all answer to anything, you gotta do shit yourself. We all wish it was a video game with quest markers.

>>32571008
>Hey guys, I don't know if I want 18 year old pussy because I'm a huge fucking faggot, what do I do?
Get off Hinge and on Grindr and go fuck an 18 year old dude
>>32571472
Those "independent" women are the ones who leave you the easiest. I hope you have guaranteed job security and a good income

>>32571886
Well I left her in this case, but either way the lesson was learned.

>>32571886
>Those "independent" women are the ones who leave you the easiest. I hope you have guaranteed job security and a good income
Yeah that dude sounds low T and puts his apples in a totally wrong basket. There's a reason nobody wants to date female lawyers, engineers and ceo's that are high on their farts.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pmt-9HTVZoM

>>32572038
Shit like this is literal brain poison, please no one watch this

>>32551880
How necessary is sex for women? How needy are they?

I have a somewhat fascination and attraction to sluts and whores and its surprising seeing how many of these hot beautiful sluts are actually quite needy and even lonely. I've been getting the feeling a lot of women turn sllutty not so much because of having lots of sex, but quite the opposite, due to wanting it and not having it.

I think its because so much of sex with women involves being validated...

>>32572595
If women don't get sex regularly they literally go insane, get anxious and neurotic, etc. The difference is that for a lot of them they would rather go insane than just fuck a guy below an 7.

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>>32552075
they think you're a daleet

>>32563404
>the average person has the natural tendency to badger the unduly amiable
This did not immediately relate to any experience I can remember but it presented in my mind as some instinctual mode
How would the concept weight against linearly progressing persistence and patience?

>>32551880
I'm getting matches, numbers, instas, snaps... I just can't bring myself to be enthusiastic about anyone though. I don't feel like texting anyone and I can't be asked to go on dates.
I miss my ex and I just want to have sex, I'm tired of relationships.
What should I do?

>>32572970
have sex ig
I'm kinda in your spot

>>32572970
Bro this is exactly me, I want to plow but I'm not ready to give up being single and start doing all of the "boyfriend/girlfriend" stuff again. Sadly women can usually tell when you're just fishing for a hookup or ONS and unless you're Chad or get extremely lucky you'll fail. Even casually hooking up these days usually involves getting to know the girl and texting/hanging out for a bit, it's so different from 10 or 15 years ago when women actually seemed to be horny.
In my case I am currently sexting and planning dates with a girl but only because my raw animal attraction to her is so strong I don't mind, but this is definitely not going to be a long term thing (she has huge H cup titties and a tomboy haircut but is older than me and black both of which are deal breakers for marriage). The juice of fucking her is, in my mind, worth the squeeze of romancing her a little.
Honestly just let time keep doing its thing and giving you space. Don't go back to your ex.
One of these days you will either meet a girl better than your ex, or if you're like me and you're in your 30s and there are no more marriage material women in your dating pool you'll just get burnt out.

About a year ago I met an awesome girl and after a few months of talking (wasn’t up to me how long talking went for, both of us were in a shit situation at the time) things just stopped. I drove to a different grocery store today than usual and I’m like 40% sure I saw her and now I’m sitting in my car like a fucking creep waiting to see if it’s her on the off chance I can make it seem like I’ve just happened to bump into her. After initially typing that out I spent some time cleaning my car which made me feel slightly better / less creepy but you know.

This might be one of my most pathetic moments but almost all my recent pathetic moments involve this girl. Just sharing to hear if other people think i’m stupid or not.

>hey would you like to go out sometime?
vs
>hey there's this [event/place/time], you wanna go with me?
Which one of these actually works bros, I'm panicking and overthinking again. Its the first time in a long time I've met someone that I actually got excited about, she has a great family, polite, she even wrenches, the whole 9

>>32573015
>you're like me and you're in your 30s and there are no more marriage material women in your dating pool you'll just get burnt out.
You too? haha
I can't see myself getting a long term thing anytime soon either

Knowing I will never be sexually/romantically desirable hurts. It's like I was rejected by nature itself just for being born.

Are there any guides for meeting girls through twitter?

>>32573266
>I'm doing x this saturday, you should come

>>32573403
based desu

>>32552075
Imagine caring about whores

lol

Lmao

Even

>>32573403
I'll try that, but what if she says she's busy or working? Let it be or try to exchange numbers?

>>32573525
>Have a good shift ttyl
If she's interested she'll want to go on the date, if she's interested but really is busy she'll let you know when she's free, if she's not interested she'll just tell you she's busy.
Don't read too much into it beyond that, just move on.
Playing the numbers game gives you the best chance of finding a girl who's into you.

>>32573266
First one is some meek shit and screams insecure. Even worse if you said that then followed up by asking her what she wants to do or when.
>>32573403 is right. Have a plan/location/activity ready. Sound confident. You are making a declaration of intent not asking her a question. Don't leave any decision making up to her. If you're going for food look up what gets the most positive reviews and suggest it if she seems unsure of what to get. Etc.

How do I stop freezing up around women?
It's like a fucking nature documentary... I get completely motionless and my brain completely stops. All I can think about is hoping they don't notice me...

>>32573546
Fair enough. I just know even with dudes I've met that are cool I don't initially think to ask for their ig's or numbers and they don't either, then you never see them again

>>32573580
>First one is some meek shit and screams insecure. Even worse if you said that then followed up by asking her what she wants to do or when.
I've got the plans ready to go, that's the easy part, with the first one it would just be a matter of her saying she's down, then I can tell her what I wanted to do. I felt like that would be the better approach than dropping an info nuke on her head after some small talk, maybe at least ask her if she knows the place first

>>32572693
NTA but if they're all working in the same place that would make them all daleets.

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>I'll let you know!!
>they never let me know
why are women like this?

>>32574117
it means no

where the fuck can I find lowkey girls who don’t like partying constantly? I know this has probably been asked 6 gorillion times and that most of them are usually at home when not working but where can I find them apart from the shitshow that is OLD? book clubs and shit like that I’m
guessing?

>>32574133
school or at work

>>32574133
Same way you find any other girl you want to date, go to places you think they hang out. Go to places girls who don't like partying hang out. Go to book clubs, coffee shops, art classes, maybe even volunteering gigs. Basically, anywhere that isn’t loud and full of drunk idiots. Look for hobbies that attract quiet people and just vibe.

>>32572595
You're overthinking it. Women aren’t some monolithic group when it comes to sex or validation. Some are horny 24/7 and just like getting it on, while others couldn't care less. Same goes for dudes, right? People’s sex drives and motivations vary like crazy.

>I think its because so much of sex with women involves being validated...
Yeah, validation can play a part for some women (and men too). Society pressures women to tie their worth to how desirable they are, so yeah, maybe some seek that attention to feel good about themselves. But don’t just boil it down to 'sluts are lonely and needy.' That’s you projecting your own narrative onto them.

Some women are out there hooking up because they just enjoy sex, no deep psychological neediness required. Others might be using it as a coping mechanism for loneliness or insecurities. Guess what? Same could be said for plenty of guys just having sex all the time. It’s not a 'woman' thing, it’s a human thing.

If you’re fascinated with sluts or whatever, maybe stop trying to psychoanalyze them like you’re Freud with a Reddit account and just appreciate them for who they are. Everyone’s got their reasons for how they act. Unless you're having open conversations with these women, you're just making assumptions based on stereotypes.

>>32552127
After the first cancellation I send one more offer. If she agrees but cancels without suggesting another day/time, I move on. If she says she can't but suggests some other time, I'll do that. Bottom line is you get one freebee and after that you have to come up with an alternative or you're not putting enough effort into it to make it worth my time, even if you are interested.

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>always been considered good-looking but don't have the confidence to openly pursue women
>creepily hit on a girl at a bar
>pajeet-tier compliments
>literally just say she has big tits and it makes me horny
>she actually fucking likes it and I make out wit her for like 3 seconds before her friends pull her away
>still can't believe it worked

why aren't you jeetmaxxing anons?

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>>32551880
Thought process for most dudes here:
I'm a pretty good looking guy and I'd be a good bf. Why don't girls approach me?
>sees a pretty girl
Well I'm not going to approach her. She'd just turn me down.

>>32553864
>balding and insecure
lmao I picked up on that too. Oddly specific complaint.

>>32556851
What she looks like outside of work... Do you wear uniforms or something? Anyways it depends on the context but generally I'd say she's hoping for a compliment, meaning she likes you.

>>32573630
Identity which mental routine is calling this response, then don't do that mental routine.

>>32561639
>including virgins
who's gonna tell him

>>32561712
>NEVER have a decent life or a nice relationship
>you have to COMMIT to ruining your life, don't just let it happen passively
Have fun writing in bitter impotent spite, I guess.

>>32562034
Honestly dude, just invite her to something. Doesn't need to be a serious date invite; invite her to join you and a group of friends to a concert or whatever. If she says yes, she likes you and you'll find out the whole story with time. If not, you have your answer and can move on (in which case they'll probably both leave you alone after that point).

>>32563038
Bro they started trying to push trannies on me after a while. What the fuck man

>>32574237
Idk what causes it. I went to therapy for a little while, but we couldn't figure it out. None of the exercises or techniques they suggested worked. My brain shuts off before I can even think about it. Like the other day... I accidentally made eye contact with a cute girl while at work (it's a huge company, I have no idea who she was). I reacted by immediately looking away. I even completely stopped breathing for maybe 10 seconds. For all I know, my heart might have actually stopped beating too... It's fucked up.

>>32564366
I know a guy that's about your height that pulls quite a lot, actually. I mean granted he's the sort of retarded where he just says whatever comes to mind, but I think that kind of works in his favor.

>>32566861
nice theory selling dude.

>>32562247
Interesting theory, I mean one of them has acted weird around me a lot but I don't know.
>>32574293
Which one, girl A or B? Does it even matter?
>>32567725
That's kinda what I thought, i don't know if its my insecurities talking but I feel like they're laughing at me for whatever reason, I don't even have feelings for these girls but I feel like they think I'm a pussy simply because I haven't tried hitting on either of them.

Slutty girls seem to think I'm a little too innocent. How should I change my behavior?

>>32557399
bro, you cannot force yourself onto a new hobby, you already have hobbies? real ones? just pick up a sport and exercise for your body, nobody considers it a real hobby

Reminder that if you're fat (fat for women is above 12% bodyfat) do not bother putting yourself out there until you've starved down to the appropriate weight, otherwise you will ruin any ability for you to actually date when you become skinny.

>>32574199
>good-looking

Well there's your fucking answer anon, as long as you are attractive to women, you can say just about anything and she'll lap it up. Now try being an average or an outright unattractive guy and see your self-esteem get crushed repeatedly by how uncomfortable women look the moment you open your mouth.

>>32574595
It's always people like you who have no experience with other women telling other men how certain interactions with women will go

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>even chris chan has a gf
>i dont
its over for me

Why is it the only women who show any interest in me are women I’m not attracted to at all?

>>32574627
>how can you possibly know that jumping out of top floor skyscraper window without a parachute will cause you to break your legs or worse?
>have YOU ever jumped out of a top floor skyscraper window without a parachute?

And to answer your question, I DO have experience with women, approximately 55 rejections and counting. And most of these weren't just cold approaching, these were with girls that were in social groups and hobbies that I was a part of. I've had at least 3 cases where I asked a girl out before anybody else had a chance and still got overlooked in favor of some other dude who came in later. I spent almost the entirety of my 20s trying to apply every shitty dating advice trick, practically killing myself working out and eating healthy, trying to take up hobbies that I didn't particularly like and got fuck all for it. I ended up eventually losing it to some chubby Chinese hooker who looked mid-40s and feeling like a total loser on the ride back home while watching some lanklet nerd and his cute bookworm gf cuddling a few seats ahead of me. I even tried the stupid "forget about women and they'll come to you advice" and effectively became invisible to girls entirely.

I'm sick of it, I didn't get any in my teens, I didn't get any in my 20s, now entering my early 30s and people will roll their eyes at you if you so much as mention having troubles dating. 30s women won't even look at you if you're not an established career guy unless they are 400 lbs single moms with kids from 3 different deadbeats, 20s girls aren't interested in older guys that aren't some kind of Ian Somerhalder type and teenage girls are off-limits unless you want to be booked for sexual harassment and likely called a pedo. Now try being mildly autistic and having difficulty keeping conversations going with people or making friends, let alone attracting women and see the difficulty jump from Casual to Nightmare.

>>32574666
Think of it like this, Satan.
>If HE can do it, there’s hope for us yet

>>32574627
NTA but it's not rocket science. People respond favourably to people they find attractive and negatively to those they don't. Imagine being hit on by a hot woman vs an ugly one.

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>>32574855
>Imagine being hit on by a hot woman vs an ugly one

1/2
If you can't find a gf I have a few dating tips for you I have had good experiences with.

First of all, your income. 100k isn't cutting it any more. 200k minimums, ideally 500k+/a. For every inch you fall short of 6ft3 you should earn 100k additionally.

You should own a car that's worth 6 monthly paychecks (including bonuses) and pick her up on your first date with that.

If you make 200k you should pick her up with a BMW M5, ideally fully speced although that's more than 100k it's worth it. If you make 500k you'd drive a Ferrari Roma or something like that (just not a 296 because it's a hybrid and that's gay).
It should always be an european Coupé or Roadster. I don't care if Lexus builds the best Luxus vehicles, they're boring and gay.

What watch to wear on the first date: Rolex, no discussion. Ideally you own a Datejust in Steel and Gold. Gold for the Asian and East European chicks, they love gaudy shit. I don't care if your IWC or Vacheron Constantin costs more than a Rolex, no chick knows what that is and that's what counts. Chicks know, Rolex is expensive and that's what you will wear.

Another tip: Wear the watch on the wrist that is closest to the passenger seat, so usually on the left. If you are one of the rare Europeans who can afford this lifestyle, you wear it on the right.
Always make sure your watch hand rests on the steering wheel where she can see it.

Oh and another one: It's worth it to get the performance package. That little logo on the racing seat makes her feel special. If she complains that the racing seat is unfomfortable tell her, the backseat is much more comfortable and you can "try it later".

>>32574949
2/2
If you can't pick her up for some reason, make sure to place your keyfob on the table where she can see it. The logo pointing towards her of course.

Regarding restaurants on the first date: It's fine if it's not the most expensive restaurant in the city, because if she doesn't spread her legs for you later you won't have wasted all that money on her. You should pick something moderately pricey (~1000 dollars for two) where you know and adress everyone by name, that will impress her because it implies you dine there on a regular basis.

After the date you just drive to the nearest parking lot and fuck the shit out of her. If she doesn't want to spread her legs, kick her out of the car right there. If you were already fumbling on the backseat, her handbag is probably still in the passenger seat. Don't forget to throw it out of the window, ideally a few miles away and in a bad part of town. If you forget to leave it in your car, she uses Find your iPhone she will find out where you live.

Good luck anon.

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>/htgwg/ How to Get Women

I dunno you just fucking go out and get one is not that complicated man if i can do it you can do it, what i can’t do is erase all the horrible experiences, the emotional manipulation, the lies, the way they’ll use literally anything you say to them to hurt you

I completely lost interest in dating i’ll never be able to trust a woman to be my wife, i don’t think they are actually capable of loving, they just use you until they find someone else, im just a hermit nowadays and if another woman ever shows interest in me again i’ll fucking run

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>>32574958
>I dunno you just fucking go out and get one is not that complicated man
t.

>>32557707
>body count is almost 15
do you mean your body count is 14? or perhaps 13...

>>32574949
>>32574952
Is there a version for a dusty feudal serf ?

>>32574949
>>32574952
glad I’m not you. jesus christ

>>32575032
>I am glad I am not a rich hyperchad
You are a special kind of retarded

>>32568169
Bump for advice pls bros

>>32575038
>he’s being genuine
as I thought. kek