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Previously on /atoga/: >>32606696
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Be happy! :)
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>>32609090
State gender
Is this true?
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Femanons as a man which dating apps should I use to find a LTR that results in marraige?
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>>32609097
Because men are supposed to be able to get sex instead of relying on self-pleasure.
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>>32609093
FUCK YOU >:(
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New girl I've been fucking always squirts and queefs every time and her vagina seems to have a different texture
I'm fascinated by this woman, anyone know whats up with that?
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women why do you hate looking at penises?
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Women do you think anal sex is inherently a little masochistic? What about debasing?
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>>32609102
M Seems about right
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>>32609111
Women aren't visual like men are.
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>>32609103
You should go ask your friends to introduce you to someone.
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>>32609102
F. No.

>>32609103
You should not use dating apps.

>>32609111
I don't hate looking at penises. I hate being sexually harassed.
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M
>>32609102
No I have way more temporal ego fantasies. I hate real life. I only have romance with unstable crazy bitches
>>32609111
They would be overwhelmed with lust if they looked directly at them
>>32609113
What kind of stupid question is this?
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The government doesnt want you to know this but if you get an FtM friend and you can suck their titties and have sex with them.
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>>32609102
Broadly.
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>>32609102
>Is this true?
M. Sort of. Male fantasies tend to be extremely simple and crude - "I'm fucking her from behind". Women's can be extremely complex, like whole movies playing in their heads, with plots and multiple characters.
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>>32609122
Yeah but then they'll call you a faggot afterwards and is that really worth it?
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>>32609105
there's levels of admitting defeat. a fleshlight is the final one
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>>32609117
Shifting goalposts I see
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>>32609116
>You should go ask your friends to introduce you to someone.
God I'm so shy about this, I feel like they'd see me as a liability or something and basically a cruel punishment to make a friend of theirs go on a date with me.
They all think I'm an autistic spazz.
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>>32609103
>Femanons as a man which dating apps should I use to find a LTR that results in marraige?
Match.com or eHarmony.
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Uhm, girls, I have a very important qestion for you here. So, when youre not wearing a bar the bottom of your boobs form like a skin fold with your body, right? Do sweat and dirt accumulate in that fold? If yes, what does it smell and taste like?
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>>32609102
M
You have absolute no idea how elaborate my roleplaying sex fantasies can get.
You are weak and simple.
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Hello womanlies, are you in a good Moor today?
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>>32609102
M
yes, more or less
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>>32609113
no? are you dumb?
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>>32609125
Who?
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females,
ever squ*rted before?
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>>32609111
>women why do you hate looking at penises?
PUT IT AWAY.
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>>32609132
mood
fuck
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>>32609116
no friends :(
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>>32609122
I've heard a good way to get laid as a single guy is to go on Grindr and look for FtMs who haven't taken testosterone or anything yet. Just validate them by calling them "man" and praising them along those lines, and you can get pretty easy sex.
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>>32609113
>Women do you think anal sex is inherently a little masochistic? What about debasing?
Anal is a good filter. Any man who wants to do it is a porn addict.
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>>32609137
The FtM
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>>32609130
my boobs in general smell slightly sweeter than the rest of me, i guess? when i am absolutely nasty and haven't washed in a while, they smell a bit like cream cheese.
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>>32609143
>Just validate them by calling them "man" and praising them along those lines, and you can get pretty easy sex.
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>>32609132
>Hello womanlies, are you in a good Moor today?
Yes, Dartmoor.
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>>32609145
I knew I wanted to put it in a girls butt before I even knew what porn was
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>>32609150
>>32609143
It's essentially gay
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>>32609153
But you are a porn addict, right?
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>>32609134
Why is that a dumb question? Anal isn't as easy as vaginal is it? Even with lube. Isn't that part of the thrill?
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>>32609153
You were touched as a child and repressed the memory
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>>32609146
True
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>>32609153
>>32609145 #
>I knew I wanted to put it in a girls butt before I even knew what porn was
classic case of supressed homosexuality
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>>32609090
Should I write a story about a woman in love with a gay man?
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>>32609162
Can you even write?
Who the fuck is it for?
Yourself?
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>>32609155
It's not gay to have sex with a woman who looks like a woman, even if you call her a man first.
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>>32609102
Womens fantasy is all about herself. My, me, I, I'm, me, me, me, etc.
Men just want to fuck a woman, they themselves aren't really involved in it. Just a floating pair of eyeballs and a penis basically
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>>32609167
So true, that is what the government doesnt want you to know.
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>>32609157
masochism is derived, not inherent. i can get masochistic glee from burning scrambled eggs, if i feel like it. nothing is inherently masochistic.

debasement is your opinion of me. if you thought it was debasing for me to have anal sex with you, i shouldn't be having sex with you. it's subjective and if that's how you see me, i really should gtfo.

so yeah, it's a stupid question, because neither of those things could possibly ever be *inherent*.
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>>32609167
It's gay to unironically call someone man and then put your dick in them
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>>32609169
Why the fuck would my fantasy not be about myself?
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>>32609113
Time to post this again, I think. A study published in the British Medical Journal about how dangerous consensual anal sex is for women. Every year more and more women end up in hospital after having it.

https://www.bmj.com/content/378/bmj.o1975
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>>32609169
>Men just want to fuck a woman, they themselves aren't really involved in it. Just a floating pair of eyeballs and a penis basically
Inexperienced men think like this
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>>32609178
That's why you're a woman
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>>32609178
You're supposed to fantasize about me
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>>32609178
because that's selfish
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>>32609177
Sex decides sexuality, not words.
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>>32609048
All I hear is how women don't need men anymore
So why would any of you want a guy? You don't need a guy to buy you flowers
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>>32609176
>hurr durr spanking and cutting are not inherently masochistic if you are choosing to do them
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>>32609186
>selfish
It's my fantasy
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>>32609189
>So why would any of you want a guy?
Huh, now that you come to mention it....
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>>32609178
you wouldnt get it broad, typical.
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>>32609148
Do you mean the entirety of your boobs or just the fold at the bottom of them (the underboob if you will)?
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>>32609191
You're supposed to fantasize about me
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>>32609190
that is not what i said or implied. you already established your retardation, you don't have to prove it further.
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>>32609188
Words shape cognition
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>>32609188
>Sex decides sexuality, not words
right, that's why smut or sexting totally isn't a thing
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>>32609189
>So why would any of you want a guy?
Men are cute and they make me happy.
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>visit best friend as a kid
>probably 9
>his dad has a new gf that is a teacher
>every time we worse bathing suits aka on the speed boat or in the water her top would come off and she wouldn't put it back on until we were out of the water or off the boat
>constantly stare at them since I was a kid
Was this on purpose and if it was was that some weird sexual perversion of hers?
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>>32609195
i guess both? my boobs smell A Way. the underboob smells most strongly unless i'm lactating. i mean... plus sweat, but i thought that was a given.
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>>32609197
If you're a man, why did you even respond?
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>>32609191
>It's my fantasy
yeah but women behave like that IRL too
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>>32609205
i'm not? women can use slurs too, you know. you don't have a monopoly on being rude.
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>>32609200
>Men are cute and they make me happy.
I look like a bastard between an ogre and a traffic accident. I'm not cute thank you
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>>32609204
lactating?
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>>32609210
she was talking about chad
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>>32609198
Succinctly said. I'm stealing this.
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>>32609202
>on the speed boat
Americanisation intensifies
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>>32609198
Good for you.
>>32609199
Sexting and written smut and the like is about imagining sex, not wanting to fuck the words themselves.
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>>32609214
right I forgot about that for a second
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>>32609220
>Sexting and written smut and the like is about imagining sex, not wanting to fuck the words themselves.
and telling a woman she is a man and fucking her might be about being gay and imagining her being a man.
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>>32609219
Answer my question
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Women which pick up line should I use tomorrow?
>Greetings fine shit, would thou be interested in a pint of mead with I?
>Salutations hoe your bosom is quite buxom and radiating today. Would you care to go to the cinema with I?
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>>32609232
It's not 2010 anymore women don't like retards
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>>32609232
How'd you like to come with me to my castle and meet little king arthur and his knights of the pound table?
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>>32609228
Why the fuck would I imagine her as a man?
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>>32609240
NTA but they clearly didn't like retards all those years before either.

t. retard
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>>32609244
>Why the fuck would I imagine her as a man?
why not?
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>>32609240
How did Andrew Tate convince like 30 women to come to Romania under pretext of dating before pimping them out then?
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>>32609230
yes
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>>32609249
Dude has social capital. Moths to flame unfortunately
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>>32609090
trannies why wont you be willing to show me your butthole and be cute at the same time
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>>32609248
Because I'm straight.
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>>32609090
Daily reminder that marriage isn't worth it. Even women are checking out of the rat race now:


https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1737151387832304.mp4
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>>32609189
I don't "need" friends or a pet either but having them can be very nice.
>So why would any of you want a guy?
I've struggled with this and recently admitted to myself that I don't really want a guy. I've previously tried to justify it with things like cunnilingus and cuddling and lan parties but those are not really worth the trouble for me personally
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>>32609259
>black
>nose ring
>woman
Not watching that. Nothing this woman says has any value.
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>>32609259
>marriage isn't worth it
Marriage is the best thing I've ever been part of.
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>>32609249
They were literally dumb teenagers anon
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>>32609259
Marriage is associated with all kinds of positive life outcomes. It's however becoming more and more an upper class institution.
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>>32609257
see, the discussion was never about you
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>>32609232
how's about i bisect you about the waist
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>>32609275
>Marriage is associated with all kinds of positive life outcomes
you mean, for the woman?
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>>32609090
Why do midsize women always dress business casual?
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>>32609232
>hey woman! you are a good looking woman and I would like to have sex with you!
thats what I would go with
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>>32609275
it's just the type of people who get married on average are better
marriage itself however with the laws of 2025 is worthless
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>>32609280
For men as well.

>>32609281
They have jobs.
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>>32609281
cuz womanlets look "cute" in anything so it doesnt matter what they wearmand giraffes look ugly in everything so it also doesnt matter what they wear
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>>32609268
You must have had a boring sad and unfulfilling life beforehand then.....
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Women: Do you enjoy cuddling?
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how can i get a femcel gf? where can i meet femcels?
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>>32609286
It's true that marriage selects for healthier and happier people, but marriage just makes people happier and healthier long term.

>>32609289
I wouldn't say so, no. I've done alright.
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>>32609264
And we have arrived at the crux of our dilemma
Both genders don't need the other and it's making us miserable
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>>32609290
More that a fat kid loves cake
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>>32609280
No, for men too. Married men do better than unmarried men, e.g. in terms of earnings, life satisfaction, etc.

However, as >>32609286 mentions, this could be a selection effect, i.e. happier men with higher earning potential are preferred as marriage partners or more likely to want to get married by virtue of their personality traits.
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>>32609290
Yes, but I can get very antsy regarding physical touch and if I'm overwhelmed or stressed I really have a hard time being held or touched.
I do love it when I'm relaxed and happy, and still cuddle my husband no matter what because he enjoys cuddling.
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>>32609264
NTA. Most people actually do need friends though, in one way or another. Even asocial introverts. And I say this as one of them.

Sorry, I haven't been paying attention to the rest of the discussion.
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>>32609090
I hate myself for liking that absolute degenerate...
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>>32609297
>but marriage just makes people happier and healthier long term.
False. If you're happy in a marriage, you were already happy and mentally well before the marriage. That's like saying getting laid is supposed to magically fix all of your problems. If one or both parties are pieces of shit to each other, then of course the marriage is going to suck. Especially if they have kids.

t. Parents were both pieces of shit to each other and me and then wonder why I'm a borderline hermit
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How come women don't like to see balls jiggles as much as we like to see boob jiggles?
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>>32609308
maybe the cause and effect are backwards
men who make more money are more attractive to women and therefore end up getting married more
poor men stay "single"
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femanons, which one do you prefer? cuddling or sex?
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>>32609311
how do you "need" friends (need means you will die without it)
i mean you may be mentally anguished but you will not die
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>>32609272
So basically in order to get hot teens to like me I have to be retarded.
>>32609278
If you're a woman yes please.
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>>32609287
>For men as well.
that statistic is fundamentally broken.
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>>32609320
Never experienced either
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State gender
Thoughts on this article?
https://www.liberalcurrents.com/the-crisis-of-gender-relations/
It's making me mad rn
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>70% chance you are born in india
>30% chance you're born into a mega rich elite family
If you can re-roll your birth with these stats, would you?
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>>32609322
>mentally anguished
That's not enough for you? Wow Anon. Toxic.
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>>32609327
You're a fucking liar
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>>32609329
No, I'm happy being White and I'm not greedy.
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>>32609327
HA, virgin!!!
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>>32609308
>No, for men too. Married men do better than unmarried men, e.g. in terms of earnings, life satisfaction, etc
married men only become married BECAUSE they are high earners not the other way around. women select for income.
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>>32609318
>men who make more money are more attractive to women and therefore end up getting married more
Yes, that's what I meant by "preferred as marriage partners".

In fact, it may not even be income itself, but it could be traits that are correlated with income, e.g. conscientiousness, ambition, educational attainment, etc. which then later manifest as higher earnings.
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realizing that I am just never gonna get a gf
like realistically it just isn't going to happen
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>>32609316
They dolike it, they just think its indecent to look
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>>32609325
It's not a single statistic, it's literally every study on the subject.

>>32609315
Not every single marriage will make every single person happy, but marrage both selects for happier and healthier people and causes people to be happier and healthier. Your parents issues don't really mean much from a statistical standpoint, but I'm sorry it fucked you up.
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>>32609336
See >>32609337.
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>>32609330
it sucks but i dont "need" it like i need food or water or a way to not freeze to death
i already have no friends and suffer because of it, but if nothing changes then im really not any worse off
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>>32609328
tl;dr it, nobody is reading this garbage.
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Women can you twerk
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>>32609219
>Americanisation intensifies
What?
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>>32609328
who? never heard of that site
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>>32609347
euros are too poor to own a boat
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>>32609320
I like both. Cuddling, probably, but still really love sex.

>>32609345
Yes.

>>32609349
Speak for yourself.
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>>32609349
I love how americans think the world is just america and europe
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>>32609340
>but marrage both selects for happier and healthier people
Did you not read anything I said? It doesn't do any of that shit. I'm not trying to say marriages can't be happy for ANYONE but people are happy in marriages because they were generally happy BEFOREHAND, not because it suddenly fixed any problems they were having beforehand. If you need a relationship to be happy, you're in for a world of disappointment unless you get absurdly lucky. A girlfriend is not supposed to be your mommy that fixes your issues and vice versa. Maybe I just got very unlucky but based on what I've seen, people romanticize relationships in general far too much. You may have survivors bias.
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>>32609353
australians, bongs, indians, chinese, eskimos, africans, etc. are too poor to own a boat
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>>32609354
>>32609340
To further elaborate on my point, even though studies you cite can be skewed by survivors bias because people in journal tend to not want to talk about the negative sides of the relationships. Women will often not tell any of their friends or family that they're being abused because they don't want to start trouble or piss off their husbands. Dudes will probably hide the fact that their wife treat them like shit or are abusive to them because they don't want anyone else looking down upon them. The perfect and happy families you see on Facebook and especially Instagram are all manufactured. No regular person is that happy 24/7. I'm not trying to spread doomer fag incel cope but I don't want people living with the idea that marriage is supposed to automatically fix themselves
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>>32609303
>More that a fat kid loves cake
I've never heard anyone else use this expression, and I also love cuddling. Clearly we're soulmates.
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>>32609352
Would you twerk your pussy on my bulbous, sinewy cock while I lick on your titties like a thirsty dog
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>>32609359
and americans aren't?
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>>32609353
The world is just America and Europe.
And Japan.
All other countries have done nothing of note in 500+ years.
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>>32609340
you have to substract the effect you describe, that marriage selects for happier and healthier people and you have to factor in the negative effects of divorce if you want to determine if marriage has a net positive effect. none of the studies does this.
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>>32609090
State gender
Thoughts on this?
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>>32609365
no? every male relative of mine over 30 owns a 20ft or greater boat, and most of my friends own at least a jon boat or some other aluminum watercraft.
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>>32609343
>and suffer
I'm sorry anon.
But like I already said, I do think that criterium is enough to qualify friendship as a need.
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>>32609126
the feshlight or lackthereof isn't what preventing you from finding someone. that's delulu logic.
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>>32609328
how did you even come across this article
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>>32609370
I have no idea what this is supposed to mean lol
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>>32609372
life is suffering
therefore one "needs" to end it
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>>32609372
One could argue sex is a need
specifically procreative
or we as a species will die off
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>>32609365
Nta but I could go online right now, buy a boat, and be fishing by this time tomorrow if I wanted to.
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>>32609090
State gender
Does anyone know the answer?
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>>32609382
The frenulum cherry hasn't been popped
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>>32609272
I thought young women were supposed to be hard to get? Is andrew tate low value?
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>>32609382
F
you can just tell lol
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>>32609382
Ass hymen.
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>>32609378
I sometimes do feel like that, yes.

>>32609380
Don't ask me to care about the needs of the whole species. It's difficult enough just taking care of myself.
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>>32609329
Not even if I got $1,000,000 in my bank as soon as I was born regardless of outcome
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>>32609354
There is plenty of statistical evidence that it does, anon.

You can just look it up on pubmed, there are dozens of studies on this and they're all fairly consistent. Especially for married men, actually.

Nobody is saying that marriage fixes you always and completely, or that if you're married you're happy 24/7, but that statistically it makes your life better.
Which is just common sense, frankly - if you go from living by yourself and going through life on your own to living with your best friend and having support, you'll be happier. If you go from being solely responsible for all your expenses to sharing them with someone, you'll be richer. If you go from having 100% of the labor of caring for a house on your own shoulders to sharing it with a partner, you'll have more time to yourself. If you have someone who cares about you, you'll take better care of yourself resulting in better health outcomes. And so on.
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I made a mistake: i replied to someone (i don't know well and our relationship is purelyt transactional, with me being the one giving and them contributing 0) and they immediately went offline. but then facebook was like "online 10 minutes ago" so i gaslit myself to thinking maybe there was a mistake somewhere. anyway, later on they reply, so i reply bc i want this over with, and what do you know? they immediately go offline

not only am i doing them a service but they also act like this, TWICE? and i ignored all rational thought and replied even though i suspected they were acting like that on purpose.

i hate when people do that. like passive agressive cunts. what's worse is they messaged me first and they're the one who need me not the other way round! i hate how i now have to do passive agressive shit too. god i hate people. i don't want to be passive aggressive, but then you deal with absulote cunts like this, and they force you to act like a pos back
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>>32609382
M
Not my problem
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>>32609399
i dont even know what this shit means, youre psycho as fuck. online offline get over yourself
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>>32609399
You sound psychotic.
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>>32609382
By having sex with them, I would think. Unless you trust them to just tell the truth if you ask.
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>>32609404
>>32609407
kill yourselves
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>>32609384
Damn I hate that that's a thing, I still remember the feeling of my frenulum popping.
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>>32609382
M
He watches k-On
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>>32609412
Yep, definitely psychotic.
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>>32609415
kill
your
self
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>>32609370
That caption is incredible
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>>32609395
>There is plenty of statistical evidence that it does, anon.
See >>32609360
Again I'm not trying to be a doomer. You're already married so it's not like your mind is going to be changed. That's not my intend. I just want other people who AREN'T married or AREN'T in relationships to be cautious.
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>>32609290
i don't fucking know.
probably. i hope so.
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Femanons, have men really caused all of your problems?
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>>32609422
We could try it out if you'd like?
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>>32609399
Thirding the other anons, the way you type is scary, you sound a little deranged.
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>>32609090
Please teach me how to stalk an e-boy
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>>32609421
I've already replied to the points you made in that post. It makes logical sense that marriage, overall, makes people lives happier and there is plenty of statistical evidence to support it.

Your idea that everyone is a battered spouse and everyone just lies at all time to defend their decisions is silly and seems to speak from a place of hurt more than anything.
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>>32609419
suck my toes nigger
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>>32609434
You just do it
If you have to ask then you aren't cut out to be a stalker
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>>32609427
at one point that was true. now i have had plenty of awful experiences with women as well. pound for pound, men have done worse.
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Men who do you wish you looked like?

Women who do you wish you looked like?
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>>32609433
>thirding
if by third you mean your superego, entering the chat after your id and ego
you still count as one person, honey

no one gives a shit about your mental diagnoses in a place where mentally ill people congregate

kys
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>>32609443
Please teach me
I'm young, I don't know how
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>>32609382
M
I got raped but peeps still le "feel" I'm a virgin. Most people eat shit in social intuition despite being social
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>>32609449
M
Kurt Cobain
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>>32609440
i wouldn't even let you anywhere close to my toes

eat my shit and die? maybe
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>>32609449
I don't. I wish women liked what I look like.
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>>32609454
If you want to stalk just start stalking
You need to let your curiousity and obsession guide you. Are you trying to get his attention? To find his locatation? The answer is in your heart
Keep in mind, he might be crazier than you and keep you in his basement
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>>32609267
Shut the fuck up racist cuck
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H
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>>32609413
Well I'm not a virgin but I rubbed a hole in the frenulum by way of prone masturbating
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>>32609444
What did we do?
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>>32609464
>Are you trying to get his attention?
Yes. I love him but also hate him.
>Keep in mind, he might be crazier than you and keep you in his basement
Sadly this wouldn't happen.
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>>32609449
>Men who do you wish you looked like?
Spencer Reid
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>>32609465
JH absolutely seething
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Would it be weird and creepy if I started a dossier on my (male) oneitis with a record of all the conversations we've had and all the facts I know about him? I have memory issues and I want to know that I won't miss anything.
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>>32609477
Your JH radar needs tuning
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>>32609449
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This guy
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Let me simplify for the retarded ones among you:
-person needs serviceS (plural)
-person hits me up on facebook
-i oblige
-i reply they go offline 1st time
-they reply later on
-i think i'm gonna do the same thing did or just let them wait
-then i think maybe it was a mistake
-they immediately go offline again

Reminder: i'm doing them a service. I don't need them. I don't even like them (they don't like me either, but I still helped). Then they act like this.
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Is it normal for a 23 year old man to cry over his parents fighting and getting divorce during his childhood ?
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>>32609478
idk but if someone did that to me I'd probably have to marry them
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>>32609449
M
idc
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>>32609478
Yeah make sure you put candid polaroids in it along with locks of his hair and fingernail clippings
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>>32609449
M
Gigachad
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>>32609478
Women used to keep journals
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>>32609488
>they immediately go offline again
that's the second time. the moment i reply to them they immediately go offline
and now because it's late, chances are, they'll only reply tomorrow morning, even though they were online when i replied to them.
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>>32609489
probably you are sad or overwhelmed about something else if it happened that long ago
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>>32609489
Yeah
Better than something like crying over capeshit movies
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>>32609438
>>32609395
anon, stating that married people are happier and concluding that marriage is making you happier on average is as insincere as saying, drunk people are happier therefore alcoholism makes you happier on average. It does not work like that because it blends out all the side effects, because the result of a marriage can be a divorce, which massively (you can look that up too) decreases your health and happiness, Just like drunkenness has a hangover as a consequence, marriage can have a divorce as a consequence. Non Married people cannot get divorced, therefore they can neither feel the positive effect of marriage nor the negative effect of divorce.

A classic example of lying with statistics.
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>>32609399
BPDemon, you're making uncomfortable
I wish you'd pester me if you're cute tho <3
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>>32609503
I am very high admittedly and being pretty introspective right now
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>>32609479
shut up JH
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>>32609509
I only "made" them uncomfortable because they're a fucking leech and are only interacting with me because they need something. That much is both understood to both of us. I don't like them either. Still, I thought they could be polite and respectful like I was to them, even though they're literally of no use to me, and they're the one who need my help, not the other way round.
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>>32609505
Your brain is so smooth.
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Can you have a long lasting relationship if you don't need each other?
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Reminder to all the women here that you are not allowed to be snippy or rude without being accused of being JH.
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>>32609505
>therefore they can neither feel the positive effect of marriage
... so marriage has a positive effect on people's outcomes, like I was saying?
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>>32609528
why even is she called JH
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Every single product at the grocery store should have THC in it so everybody is high all the time.
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>>32609505
someone's mad that the data supports le big bad evil marriage
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>>32609328
M
It is a good thing that an article from a more left-wing direction recognises plummeting birthrates as an issue but the analysis is lacking. First of all, I would criticise the Anglo-Liberal way of looking gender relations in the form of 'contracts' ("patriarchal bargain"). It is a very Anglo way of looking at things and out of touch with human nature, as it views agency grounded in rational cost-benefit analysis rather than evolved preferences and subconscious intuitions.
This is also why its proposed solutions fail have to be viewed with a sufficient degree of scepticism. While the mating market measures in terms of status hierarchies, and the way status manifests can be dependent on societal narratives, it is not indefinitely malleable, in particular where it contradicts older, evolved preferences. e.g. the attempts to redefine beauty standards have largely failed. Men and women both favour facial symmetry (up to a point), height in men, disfavour obesity, etc. - in the same sense, success metrics are nothing that can be bargained with. At the end of the day, a man who can pay the bills is more respected than the man who can't. The man who is gifted and revered by his peers has higher status than the man who is not.
The idea that status could be shared and handed down, citing rights that formerly only applied to the aristocracy being granted to the common man misses the point that status is largely zero sum. The moment something becomes common and accessible to everyone it is no longer a mark of distinction, which is what characterises status and is measured in opposition to others.
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>>32609090
State gender
Is it possible for a woman to fall in love first and the man later?
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>>32609524
I personally think so and in fact I think it's healthier and better that way. Passion and neediness are good and all but they're not infinitely self-sustaining and are bound to burn out. Imo the best kind of relationship is one where you're both complete individuals who are together because you *want* to be together. Nothing's compelling you to stay, you simply stay together because you love each other and enrich each other's lives. I experienced that once and it's my sincerest hope that I get to experience it again.
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>>32609524
Yes, of course.

>>32609488
>>32609501
I don't think anyone is having trouble understanding what you were complaining about, it's just fairly unhinged to be checking people's online status and being so furious about it.

If you don't want to interact with this person, just don't.
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>>32609536
Jiant Hooters
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>>32609544
F. Yeah, I definitely fell for my husband faster than he fell for me.
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>>32609449
M
no one tb.h. i could stand to be more muscular (need to hit the gym), but that's literally the extent of my desires regarding my appearance
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>>32609534
>... so marriage has a positive effect on people's outcomes, like I was saying?
Jesus, are you dense.
>Marriage gives you +1 health, divorce -2 health
>1000 people get married
>a person has on average therefore +1 health
>of those 1000 people, 500 or 50% get a divorce
>now, people have on average 0 health
>the net positive health effect of marriage is 0
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Woman what kind of porn do you look at?
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Hey peeps, I have plans to get breakfast with a friend tomorrow morning. It was supposed to be me, my gf, and him, but something came up and my gf can't go. I've been good friends with this guy for a few years now, but hardly had one on one time with him, so I'm not sure how it will go. The main problem is I think I'm really not enjoyable to be around 1 on 1. In a group setting I'm great, but 1 on 1 I feel I can't carry a conversation.

Long story short, I'm kinda bad socially, and fear going to breakfast with the friend will be lame. Because I'm lame. Could be good practice, but I know it won't be a great time.

I know I can't back out, but I would just like your opinions, advice, and input.

Thanks in advance yall
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>>32609542
>someone's mad that the data supports le big bad evil marriage
except the data does not exist.
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>>32609548
So what happens when you stop wanting to be together?
Should every marriage last max 7 years?
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male aspie

can I tell a date I'm a aspie?
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Women, best compliments for a first date? I don't want to seem too out of bounds but I want to show appreciation for beauty and personality.
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>>32609560
There's this one insane guy and I listen to everything he puts out and nothing else.
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>>32609563
it was posted at you and discussed extensively though?
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>>32609528
i also can't be horny or have curly hair
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man here

thoughts on love letters?
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>>32609558
You don't really have any evidence that the negative effects of divorce greatly outdo the positive effects of marriage. 50% of people don't get divorced.
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Femanons, do you fantasize about dark skinned men?
Not saar posting
Just curious
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>>32609549
First of all, I'm not checking anything dumbass. Facebook literally shows you whether the person you're messaging is active or not.
Second, why do people act like when someone pulls this shit, THEYRE the one in the right? Why is being a pos so celebrated? I don't like the person, yet I helped. So why do people act like this person ignoring me twice is somehow a good thing?
Third, I'm not furious. However, I don't like passive aggressive people because that's not who I am. If you don't like me 1. don't come to me for help 2. don't talk to me and 3. you can even say it to my face, I'd rather that over these sneaky "little" disrespectful actions.
Now, I have to act the same way they did, and I don't like it. But I'm forced to, because we meet IRL.
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woman hows your vagina doing today?
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>>32609438
>Your idea that everyone is a battered spouse and everyone just lies at all time to defend their decisions
That is NOT what I said. I'm saying that there are people that will do that shit and they're the people that make marriage a shitty experience. I literally told you point blank that not all marriages are shit and a lot of them are good....

Im >>32609421 and not >>32609505
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>>32609574
>it was posted at you and discussed extensively though?
Yes and unfortunately for them, their arguments do not support their hypothesis. There are no studies that support, that married people have a net positive healt effect if you factor in divorces and control for the fact that happy and healthy people get married more often in the first place.
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McDonald's and vodka, alone in my apartment
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>>32609539
some awfully wild thing weak only to the softest touches
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>>32609580
>Facebook literally shows you whether the person you're messaging is active or not.
You still need to look at their status.

Why are you acting like they are necessarily "pulling some shit"? Why do you attribute nefarious intention to this behavior while it could just be "see notification on phone/laptop, check what it is, decide to reply later because they're busy".

They replied to you in a timely manner. You're losing your shit and posting like a psycho about it.
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Women what would you think if a guy said you're the reason he's happy he has a dick? It is something I've always wanted to say in a crazy horny romantic way
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>>32609579
I've only ever found 1 Black guy attractive but he had chad jawline and a majestic afro. Every other time I've found white men attractive.
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>>32609588
they're right, you're wrong, you just hate marriage because you had shitty parents and resulting childhood trauma, and you've made it into a whole complex about the entire institution of marriage lmao
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>>32609578
It's common sense..... No one, presumably neither do you, really wants to divorce. Even the people that "divorce rape" their spouses don't really want to go through it because it's a giant headache all for some coins that they may not even get if they signed a prenup or they are found at fault. I get you're trying to have a positive outlook but you seem pretty dance too..... I can't speak for the other dudes but all I'm trying to say is that people need to have a realistic outlook. You seemed it be trying to imply that marriage is objectively good 100% of the time for everybody. We get it, you have a good marriage, but stop trying to act like bad marriages do not exist.
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>>32609577
Man here.

I like them. I got my first girlfriend by exchanging friendship letters that grew into romance letters.
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>>32609590
I had a chickpea, sweet podadoes and bell pepper salad. All roasted. Very yummy.
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>>32609590
f, veggie stew
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Women, have you masturbated yet today?
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>>32609370
>be bisexual
>your partner INHERENTLY knows that you have a desire for something they physically cannot provide
>but you're the victim for letting them know that you might decide to want kids and leave you for a straight relationship, or walk out on your life to have a gay relationship.

Your "and" becomes their "or"

Jeeze no wonder most women don't want to peg men.
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>>32609593
i think i might get a little confused in the phrasing if you said it out of nowhere, but it's a cute (if very dorky) sentiment
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I think my fwb peed all over my dick and chest but she said it was orgasm fluid
It didn't have much of a smell until now about 15 hours later
should I be concerned
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>>32609598
>man here
>man here

we need to start bringing in the female tiktok refugees or something
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What would happen if I went and put up flyers in public with a link directing to this general thread? Could /atoga/ be the key to bridging the discourse between men and women?
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>>32609601
like four times bud
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>>32609608
depends on what area you're in
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>>32609578
>You don't really have any evidence that the negative effects of divorce greatly outdo the positive effects of marriage.
You do not have any evidence that marriage has a net positive effect on heatlh lol.
>50% of people don't get divorced.
Yes they do
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>>32609595
Dude, read your responses instead of being pissy. You're talking to the wrong person. You're on an anonymous board remember? This is not Twitter.
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>>32609591
I want to softly touch your wild thing.
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>>32609090
State gender
Thoughts on this song?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BlaWhtHmUw4
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>>32609574
Could you link those studies if you haven't already?
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>>32609604
YOU DIDN'T SHOWER FOR 15 HOURS AFTER SEX!?!??!?!?!??!?!????!??!?!?!
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>>32609595
>they're right, you're wrong, you just hate marriage because you had shitty parents and resulting childhood trauma, and you've made it into a whole complex about the entire institution of marriage lmao
Show me the study then.
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>>32609564
When you love someone enough and when you enrich each other's lives enough, there's no reason for you to ever stop wanting to be together.
A marriage should be a voluntary partnership, not something you feel compelled to stay in.
I wouldn't say I ever *needed* my ex. I was happy and fulfilled with him, in fact so much so that I was fully prepared to spend my life with him. But when he broke up with me after 3 years, I wouldn't say it broke me or anything like that. Sure, I was sad and hurt for a while, but I survived and kept living as I had done before. We're extremely close friends to this day and I think part of the reason why is because we never needed each other to the point where our breakup would've felt life-ruining, and because we never had any debts to each other.
I don't know if I'm making sense at all. This is just what works for me plus I have (diagnosed) autism.
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>>32609592
You're full of shit and you know it. You don't need to look. Even if you tried to not see it like some weirdo, you'd still see it while reading their response.

Second, no. I replied in a timely manner, they didn't. Especially that they were online TWICE when i messaged them back yet they immediately go offline the moment i reply.

Third, yes, there's a nefarious intention. Happens once? I thought maybe they have a reason. Twice? No, that's being disrespectful. And I've dealt with people like this pos. This is nothing new.
Besides, why would i gaslight myself further? I KNOW they don't like me. We don't even know each other. I don't like them either. They just came to me TO GET SHIT. They want the shit WITHOUT ME. Except I thought we could at least respecful. Now, I'm gonna act like they did, and I don't like acting like this.
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>>32609604
I'M concerned about you now, for not showering until 15 hours later.
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>>32609604
Anon.... Whenever a woman squirts, it is piss...... "Orgasms fluid" it's a cop-out term used because they feel embarrassed that they literally pissed on their partner.
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>>32609619
I like to get wafts of the aroma at work the next day
Takes me to a nicer place
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>>32609592
Also, calling people psycho isn't an argument. It's just a trendy insult. And it takes away any credibility you might have had, and you had little to none to begin with.
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>>32609604
She owns you now
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>>32609619
>>32609624
Also its on my bedsheets, I only just cleaned them 3 weeks ago I wasn't planning on doing laundry this week
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>>32609596
It's not really common sense. Divorce might have an immediate -2 effect on your health, but you recover from it over time. It might impact your life negatively for a year, or maybe ever 5 or 10, but then you largely move on and recover. Marriage, on the other hand, has its positive impact for the rest of your days.
>>32609611
>2004
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>>32609577
Woman here

Awkward

>>32609590
Steaks that I have to cook or they're gonna go bad
>>32609593
A little confused but I appreciate the spirit of it
>>32609601
Nah
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>>32609604
That's hot
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Females, any advice on mentally manipulating my girlfriend so she never leaves me?
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>>32609634
Three weeks is plenty of reason to change your sheets anyway, much more if a woman wet them.
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>>32609592
btw, dipshit, facebook shows you whether someone is online BEFORE you even open a message. There's a green dot next to their pic. Tell me i still needed to look for that too.

you're a pos making excuses for other pos. pos are thick together like a turd.
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>>32609623
>You don't need to look
You do. Normal people don't stare at the chat waiting for the response.

You're making this into a big deal when it is meaningless. They probably just were busy doing something and replied to you when they could. Just stop interacting with them if you don't want to, tho, it seems like you don't want to.
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women

do you have a gag reflex? If not, how old where you when you lost it?
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I wish women were real.
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>>32609636
Counterpoint, why not just not bother with the marriage in the first place so that you never have to suffer those negative exp points on the first place? It seems like an unnecessary risk. You even said yourself that it can take five or 10 years to recover mentally and emotionally or sometimes even economically (remember, a lot of people initiate divorces truly from monetary gain because the husband or wife is an idiot faggot loser that "trusts their spouse" and got gas lit into thinking wanting a prenup is "toxic")
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>>32609654
Always have, not triggering it is more about tongue position than not having one ime
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>>32609603
>but it's a cute (if very dorky) sentiment
That's exactly what I was going for!
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>>32609654
No. I lost it doing dumb ahit alone in highschool.
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>>32609382
Male
By asking him, either directly or indirectly, and being reasonably sure of his trustworthiness.
If he's the type to tell white lies to make himself look good, or who prioritizes his own values over those of others even when something concerns other people (for example, a person who would keep quiet about an affair his friend was having because he "didn't want to destroy a marriage", despite the wife being the kind of person who very much would want to know), he's likelier to lie about it to a woman.

The same thing is true of women. A hymen means very little. It doesn't stop people from being promiscuous under the excuse of "technical virginity".
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>>32609595
I want to see that study too anon
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>>32609090
Guys, remember to get Rona's permission before you ask a woman out!
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Women has a guy ever peed inside your b hole?
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>>32609664
Huh?
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>>32609670
That sounds very messy
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Women, have you ever had nightmares that you're pregnant?
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>>32609656
For the same reason why we do sports even if there's an inherent risk of injury from doing that, or why we accept jobs even if there's a chance of getting fired - the long term benefits greatly outdo the risks.

>a lot of people initiate divorces truly from monetary gain
They don't lol
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>>32609636
>Marriage, on the other hand, has its positive impact for the rest of your days.
Yes, until you get a divorce lol
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>>32609660
What kind of dumb shit?

I knew some mormon guy in college who lost it with bananas. he was a furry though so he probably was gay. his twin was straight and a standup mormon and somehow not autistic.
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Why would I care what any of these online women have to say?

I asked my sister for dating advice once and all I learned was how to date her and she still turned me down. Women have no idea how to speak for women. That's why when one turns you down, she's only speaking for herself. Why would you let that get you down? All that happened is that you're now one woman closer to finding the one woman who wants to be with you.
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>>32609680
Which most people never do. So it has a positive effect until they die.
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>>32609650
>You do. Normal people don't stare at the chat waiting for the response.
I wasn't staring chat. Nor did I wait, faggot. I opened my messaged, typed my text, they were online. I could see they were online before i even opened their message.

Also, this is the thing about actions like this: on the surface, they seem little. Except they communicate a lot. They could've gotten all the shit they wanted, was it so hard to be respectful throughout? No. But they want you to know they couldn't give a rat's ass about you and they're just using you.

Fuck that person and fuck you for defending this bullshit
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>>32609674
Surprisingly no

I did have a really weird dream last night where I was in this place I used to have dreams a lot like a decade ago (it's a huge greenhouse that doesn't make any sense) where I follow a hidden path around the outside edge of the room and come down a like 40 foot tree and it was like, appropriately overgrown for not having been tended since the last time I was there. Freaked me out a little.
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>>32609673
How do you think it would feel? Like pouring warm coffee inside of a squishy thermos?
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>>32609685
Maybe they weren't aware you're an insane asshole who believes they're being disrespected for no reason.
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>>32609689
Presumably like having diarrhea
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>>32609692
: /
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>>32609690
maybe your mother and mother are so retarded and shouldn't have been allowed to have children, but that's what dumb animals do: they shit, fuck and sleep. and they shitted you into this world.

bye.
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>>32609697
You're putting liquid inside of a butthole what were you expecting
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>>32609596
>It's common sense.....
No, it's not common sense at all. That Anon is right. In fact, there is actually good evidence that neither marriage nor divorce makes people particularly happy or unhappy. It's more that happier people are more likely to get married and unhappier people more likely to get divorced. Good or bad things happening typically affect ones life-satisfaction temporarily, but they don't have a lasting effect. People tend to revert to their baseline, which is largely heritable.
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>>32609670
Not deep inside, no
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Ok fine, you won't let me piss in your asshole? Then you can't hold it while I pee.
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state gender
every fiber of my being wants and tells me to wait for her. is "greater fool" syndrome treatable?
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>>32609700
can I just just pee on your tits then

>>32609702
What about your pussy? Is that safe?
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>>32609681
Mostly just used sex toys thinking it'd make good at sex, including bjs. Obvs the only thing that carried over from that was getting over gagging.
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>>32609674
I don't think I've ever had pregnancy dreams, good or bad
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>>32609704
M
I don't know what you're talking about
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>>32609102
Im a viking thats my fantasy too
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>>32609675
A recreational hobby and making a decision to commit to someone for the rest of your life are not comparable..... That's one hell of a false equivalence. I thought you saw marriage as something important. Not a thing you just do just because.

>why we accept jobs even if there's a chance of getting fired -

More often than not people get fired due to their own negligence or fuckups. Again, false equivalence. Men and women can't get fucked over in relationships for literally no reason. Being terminated from a job is 9 times out of 10 your own fault. Unless you have another study that can prove me wrong (You still haven't linked the damn study. Just link it ffs).

>the long term benefits greatly outdo the risks.
Like? None of the benefits you mentioned are things that are that difficult to maintain by yourself unless your dirt poor. Marriage is more of a benefit for poor people than pretty much anyone else.

>They don't lol

Let me guess, you incorrectly assumed I said ALL of them do that when I clearly did not say that?
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>>32609682
>I asked my sister for dating advice once and all I learned was how to date her and she still turned me down
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>>32609684
>Which most people never do. So it has a positive effect until they die.
Anon, the rate marriage:divorce is still around 50%
Stop deflecting
https://www.census.gov/topics/families/marriage-and-divorce.html
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>>32609090
How do I acquire a man like this?
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>>32609720
Join the lebensborn program
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>>32609701

You keep saying those good evidence but you will not provide said evidence. I'm willing to give you the benefit of the doubt but just post the motherfucking links.... What you tell me means fuck all if you can't prove it beyond "nuh uhh you're wrong!" type responses.

>It's not common sense

Could you at least ATTEMPT to explain why it's not common sense?


>there is actually good evidence that neither marriage nor divorce makes people particularly happy or unhappy.
Is that not what I've been saying the whole time? You / they were implying that marriage is an inherent plus and they / you keep implying that the potential downsides are either exaggerated or straight up don't exist.
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>>32609709
we reached the point where we have been forced to go into indefinite no contact. it's foolish to think things will recover between us, but i still thoroughly love her. that's basically the situation rn.
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>>32609722
I have brown hair and eyes
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>>32609705
I'd never presume to say it's safe for everyone, but I personally have never had any issues with uti's or anything else
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>>32609655
https://voca.ro/18m7H8TcUWuE
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>>32609730
Find one with a bleaching fetish.
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>>32609730
Have brownish hair and amber eyes. Am I not good enough for you?
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>>32609727
>we reached the point where we have been forced to go into indefinite no contact. it's foolish to think things will recover between us, but i still thoroughly love her. that's basically the situation rn.
You can't even talk on here?
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>>32609732
Cute (without the swearing)
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>>32609732
Eww, a valley girl!
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Women if your bf told you to sit in the tub and press your titties together and he just pees all over your tits with a throbbing hostile erection and he pees a little bit on your lips and your neck too how would that make you feel
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>>32609736
we didn't meet on 4chan, she's partially an irl friend. but no, as of right now she has me blocked afaik.
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>>32609741
he just opened the floodgates for me to do weird things to HIS body. life is about to be scary for this young man.
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>>32609747
like what
0_o
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>>32609238
>most american and european women are men which is why femboys aren't gay but fucking women is
>>32609243
>This, most american and european women are just men with vaginas at this point its why they so loudly cope about femboys stealing their men
You're a faggot
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>>32609714
I'm not equating marriage and doing sports, or getting fired. I'm pointing out that pretty much every decision we take in life involves accepting risks.

>Like?
Improved health (physical and mental), increase in income, increase in happiness and overall life satisfaction, increased financial stability, etc.

>the damn study
There's plenty of literature on the subject, it's not a single study.

>Marriage is more of a benefit for poor people than pretty much anyone else.
Quite the opposite, actually.

>you incorrectly assumed I said ALL of them do that
No, what you said is simply wrong. Divorce for monetary gain is something exceedingly rare, both because very few people are fucked up enough to marry someone and then divorce them for cash, and because it takes a very wealthy spouse and a large financial imbalance for divorce to make you any profit and that's just not the case for most people.

>>32609718
It's around 40%, so most people never divorce.
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>>32609725
>Could you at least ATTEMPT to explain why it's not common sense?
Because there is no good reason to think that divorce would somehow weigh worse than marriage. But even then, resorting to common sense is a nonsensical argument in the first place. In particular when we have data (https://doi.org/10.1037/pspp0000501). Life satisfaction being largely influenced by individual personality traits is actually a fairly common and replicated finding.

In that regard: marriage is probably not going to make you happier, divorce is not going to make you unhappier. However, happier people are more likely to get married and married people tend to be happier than unmarried people. Things don't happen randomly. The people who get divorced are not just random people among the married population, but divorce is even up to 50% heritable (as we would suspect, given the heritability estimates of personality traits).

If you suspect you're the type of person who is likely to get divorced by virtue of your character, then you're probably better off not getting married. But if you're a successful, life affirming, extroverted guy, then there is no reason not to get married and give it a try.
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>>32609741
I don't think it's that hard to find a girl who would be into that, so go find her anon
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>>32607370
You have a nice voice, femanon. Those groomers are just coping because you called them out.
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>>32609539
A man because I can only get off to the fantasy of having an orgasm during a sexual encounter
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>>32609761
>If you suspect you're the type of person who is likely to get divorced by virtue of your character, then you're probably better off not getting married.
Nah, I'm not good enough for marriage anyway So at least I don't have to worry about potentially getting divorced or getting cheated on or whatever. :(
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>>32609756
>It's around 40%, so most people never divorce.
More like 46% which is almost half. I don't count the Covid years because thats obv. skewed
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>>32609763
>so go find her anon
are you telling me to leave ;_;
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>>32609767
>More like 46% which is almost half
nta but arguing about such general statistics is worthless. the more abstract the population, the less meaningful anything from it is for you, and it doesn't get more abstract than the set of all people
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>>32609703
Are you sure you want to piss inside an asshole? Imagine the smell when it comes out dude.
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>>32609756
>Improved health (physical
I don't know if I quite agree with this point because a lot of people, especially young men and women come up only go to the gym to LOOK in shape and not BE in shape. They do it for the sole purpose of looking good for potential maid. Then they get married and have kids and they both blow up like balloons. One or both get fat because neither has any reason to stay healthy anymore. There are plenty of people that are fat that are in otherwise very healthy relationships. A bunch of Americans are even taking ozempic to take the easy route to weight loss so I don't believe for a second anyone who gets married suddenly has a higher chance of being healthy.

Most of your other points seem valid though but again, you need to link your sources.
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>>32609768
No lol, just saying there are girls who are into that without wanting to go into detail
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>>32609662
fr
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>>32609716

Senior guys would always ask me how to reel her in, so I just told them what I knew and wished them better luck.

Buy her flowers and go for the kiss. Must have worked because she was always complaining about her chapped lips, but turned me down when I'd offer her ChapStick.
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>>32609741
I'm making sure he knows how to turn the shower on first or not getting tied up not making THAT mistake again I was so cold
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>>32609775
https://heart.bmj.com/content/104/23/1937
> Marital status appears to influence CVD and prognosis after CVD. These findings may suggest that marital status should be considered in the risk assessment for CVD and outcomes of CVD based on marital status merits further investigation.


https://bmcgeriatr.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12877-023-03880-8
>The association between marriage, health, and reduced mortality in older individuals has been illustrated in this study. Being married or separated was associated with a lower risk of mortality.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2211335523004333
>Never married/single, divorced, and widowed men had significantly higher hazard rate ratios (HRRs) of all-cause mortality than the reference category married/cohabitating men throughout the multiple analyses.
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>>32609761
And traits that lead to divorce very well may lead to a lower marriage rate in the first place.
Ups, did I destroy your little argument AGAIN?
Sooooorry
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I can barely find a girl who will milk me like an eager milkmaid and take the load on her face
Apparently that's not "respectful" in 2025 ffs
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>>32609619
>>32609624
What's wrong with that? I shower once a week unless I have to go out, I don't care if I have a bf or not, sex doesn't change my shower schedule. It isn't usually that much dirtier than masturbation
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>>32609703
Women you can hold mine while I pee
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>>32609782
How did you both fail to turn on a shower? Sounds like terrible interaction design.
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>>32609761
I am destined to be unhappy
Cool
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>>32609787
>And traits that lead to divorce very well may lead to a lower marriage rate in the first place.
This is literally what I said: >>32609701.

>It's more that happier people are more likely to get married

It also does not contradict my argument at all. If you think it does, you're just not good at logical reasoning.
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>>32609789
So many red flags.
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>>32609792
Well my hands were tied behind my back so you can stop being a jerk about it to me he's the idiot who didn't understand what "the other way. No the opposite of the way you turned it the past 6 times, NO! oh my god just fucking untie me you fucking idiot" means.
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>>32609786
Yes, and for the positive effect to last you have to be in the group of the 50% who never divorce. Those statistics just ignore half of the population
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>>32609797
I'm sorry about this, femanon, but LOL.
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>>32609789
My stinky girl
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>>32609796
Like what? I don't want my bf to shower before or after sex either since sweaty dick smells heavenly
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>>32609801
Understandable, it would have been funny if he hadn't been blasting me with freezing cold water while being a dumbass!
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>>32609090
>Just find and date another autist bro
Where the hell are we, man or woman, supposed to find one? Do these people think we can just snap our fingers and have a partner whenever we want just like that? Even well intentioned normies are always so far up their own asses lol. Why do they even speak? Do they think merely being autistic or """autistic""" suddenly makes you compatible with another autist?

https://x.com/Xenoimpulse/status/1880364949148692801?t=SVt4VlL9w53CwLU6E6yiwQ&s=19
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>>32609804
Doesn't matter. You're too gross even for me.
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>>32609795
>This is literally what I said: >>32609701.
Anon, if people with those traits get married less Anon, you said, marriage will not make you happier, divorce won't make you unhappier. Which means, that marriage has a net zero effect on your happiness. You literally agreed to my argument
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>>32609778
They FINALLY linked it here

>>32609786
Not reading All that shit but it's the thought that counts. Thanks :3
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>>32609789
How do you not feel grimy and gross?
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>>32609789
>I shower once a week
Do you exercise or masturbate during the week?
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>>32609818
I've already told you it's not a single study, it's the entirety of literature surrounding the effects of marriage on life satisfaction, income and health. Asking me to link to you all the currently available literature while doing no research by yourself is simply silly.
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>>32609797
>tfw no good girl gf to annoy when she's tied up
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>>32609811
If I was held at gunpoint and forced to choose a guy I've already slept with to marry I would 100% pick the most autistic one even though he really likes marvel and will eat unrefrigerated leftovers

Finding him was a fluke though we're mostly hermits so how do people expect us to meet each other
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>>32609793
>I am destined to be unhappy
>Cool
It's not that black and white
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>>32609809
I don't know what else to say but I've gotten one good story out of atoga tonight. Thanks.
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>>32609816
You need to keep in mind that you've been arguing with two different people. I don't know whether that Anon made that claim that marriage makes you happier (I don't actually think he did), but I most certainly did not. I said - and you need to be careful with the language here - that marriage is 'associated' with positive life outcomes.

Married men tend to be happier, have a higher income, live longer, and who knows what else. The same also tends to apply to married women (although to a lesser degree).

However, the association is probably not causal, i.e. marriage would not make an unsuccessful or unhappy man more successful or happier (at least not long-term). Instead, it might as well be the case that such a man would not be able or want to get married in the first place, or if he did, he could more likely find himself in a divorce. Still, if you're not that type of man - and this has a bit of a Calvinist quality to it - you could wager that you might be one of the elect and try to get married (or beat the odds!).
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>>32609832
>Finding him was a fluke though
That's the thing normal shits Don't understand. Literally all of their success is due to luck. Yes you have to actually go outside and talk to people but it's more like 20% effort in 80% dumb luck. A failed Normie like me can strike conversations with people all the time. COMPLETE strangers 2 if I feel like it. I wouldn't survive at my current job if I couldn't do that. But that doesn't translate to suddenly getting a boyfriend or girlfriend does it? I think my high and mighty parents are finally realizing getting a partner isn't as easy as they want people to believe so they've stopped pestering me about it.
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>>32609825
>I've already told you it's not a single study,
And? I just thanked you for finally linking studies and told the other guy were to find the studies. I don't know what your upset about now....
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>>32609804
>I don't want my bf to shower before or after sex either since sweaty dick smells heavenly
Won't you taste yourself next time you give him a bj?
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>>32609833
>It's not that black and white
That's much easier for you to say than anyone else. The people who have never experienced relationships are incapable of seeing things from your point of view, just as you're not capable or willing to things from our point of view. If you haven't had a relationship by a certain point you need to just give up on wanting it in the first place.
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>>32609833
I should make sure you know I'm nta just a rando feeling sorry for themselves

It feels that way when you've been varying levels of depressed for like 18 years
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>>32609837
fine, fine, you at least have half a brain, you can stay
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>>32609837
I did - I said that married people tend to be happier, and there's both selection bias (people who marry tend to be more successful and happier people) and a causal effect to it (marriage itself tends to have a positive long term impact on people - it's overall easier to go through life as partners).
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>>32609819
I do eventually and that's when I take a shower
>>32609823
I often shower after my weekly workout, yes. I masturbate 5-30 times per week but a paper towel is enough to clean that
>>32609845
I do taste myself sometimes, is that a problem?
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>>32609848
I forgot to type NTA.
I'm an incel too
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>>32609862
Which person are you saying you are?
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>>32609857
>marriage itself tends to have a positive long term impact on people - it's overall easier to go through life as partners
I think that's a good argument: obviously marriage also has other positive effects.

e.g. it's easier and cheaper to manage a household with two people (in particular if it comes with two incomes) children may aid one in old age, ones circle of friends is extended, and who knows what other positive externalities there are.

So even if it may not be worthwhile in terms of long-term life satisfaction, it's still a rational investment if one considers oneself capable of maintaining it. And I'm certain some Anons here would also like to have a partner to have sex with every now and then.
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>>32609860
>I do taste myself sometimes, is that a problem?
No, quite the opposite.
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>>32609830
>good girl
I hate that I like this so much
>>32609836
Happy to entertain lol
>>32609840
I relate completely. My mom gave my number to one of her coworkers who's my age. I haven't been this embarrassed since she dropped me off at middle school blasting Enrique Iglesias.
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>>32609867
I'm >>32609833
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>>32609874
>I hate that I like this so much
Hipster
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>>32609860
>I masturbate 5-30 times per week but a paper towel is enough to clean that
I bet your whole house smells like pussy, and I mean that in the best way possible.
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>>32609876
Somebody doesn't like brats
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>>32609874
>I hate that I like this so much
That makes it more fun to say
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>>32609102
Male
No I have basically the same fantasy as the woman in that tweet, although typically it's a supervillainess or witch or something instead of a warrior, and I try to fix her while serving as her personal guard
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>>32609845
Not her
You do
It doesn't gross me out if it's the same day or we had sex before bed and then again in the morning or smth
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Femanons, if my friend is masturbating in bed next to me is it aa good idea to ask if she just wants to have sex?
She ended up asking if I wanted to suck on her nipples and I did, but I regret not asking if she wanted to have sex.
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>>32609884
See this guy gets it
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>>32609880
It's the quintessential hipster trait to not want to be associated with the common and popular thing. "Good girl" is one of the most common triggers for women.
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>>32609874
Your mom is stupid and so is mine lol. I made a platonic female friend tort the tail end of high school and she proceeded to pester me into essentially asking her on a date. I was a graduating Senior who was basically out of school by then and she was a sophomore, so we were destined to fall out of touch, yet She interpreted this "OH BOY TIME TO GET MY SON LAID" and forced me to ask her to hang out like the day after graduation because she's a narcissistic control freak. Then when we fell out of touch she acted like *I* was a weak loser for feeling bad about potentially making myself look cringe just a soothe her own ego. Maybe I should go take a walk because writing this is making me genuinely wish for that woman's death.
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>>32609860
>I masturbate 5-30 times per week
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>>32609860
thanks, I will fap to your post tonight
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>>32609887
Is it weird if a guy thinks it's kind of hot?
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>>32609811
>date an autistic woman
Every autistic woman I have ever met has been in a relationship already, usually with a normie guy who doesn't give a shit about her special interests
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>>32609906
Realest thing I've read on here this week.
I've seen some horrific shit that autistic women have done for their bf.
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Question for other men that have used dating apps
I've been sending ~3 roses a day on Hinge for about a week now, what kind of match rate should be expected from that? I haven't gotten any so far
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>>32609880
>>32609893
There's a saying "the nail that sticks out gets hammered down." I like women who stick out a bit.
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>>32609895
I don't even know what to say other than "yikes" she sounds like a handful all I have to deal with is a hypocrite with stunted emotional regulation skills and a hair trigger temper depending on her mood and how recently she's eaten.

Taking a walk is good. Walking briskly away from your problems is one of my favorite activities. Godspeed anon
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>>32609917
Do we have the same mom lol?
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>>32609899
Practically vanilla imo
>>32609915
I have to give you a REASON to hit me otherwise it's just sad lol
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>>32609898
>thanks, I will fap to your post tonight
2bh I probably will too, but there's no need for us to tell her that!
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>>32609911
>I've seen some horrific shit that autistic women have done for their bf.
I have not. Examples?
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>>32609919
If I wasn't watching my brother watch YouTube right now I'd say maybe lmao
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Women, do any of you truly think to yourselves "damn in so lonely I'll never find a bf I'll never have sex I'll never have a relationship"?
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>>32609929
I think I'll have sex again
I don't think I'll be comfortable opening up to someone enough to have a relationship any time soon
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>>32609929
No, it's more like "damn searching for a bf who wouldn't mistreat me is too stressful but that's ok, I don't need sex and I'll always have my friends"
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>>32609911
Its heartbreaking how they basically just give up their lives and everything cool about themselves for their boyfriends that make them feel bad about all of that
>>32609923
Nta but the worst one I saw was a girl who's bf convinced her to let another girl into the relationship for threesomes, and basically just used the new girl as a gf and the autistic girl as a way to pay rent since they lived together. But he also kept her from having friends as best he could
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>>32609920
>I have to give you a REASON to hit me otherwise it's just sad lol
Haha, it's cute that you took it literally. What if I meant it euphemistically, what would that refer to?
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>>32609923
In high school I once hung out with this drug addict that was the son of some rich autistic doctor and and he was like 16 and his autistic gf was also 16, really beautiful and had massive tits and he wasn't nice to her really ever, he had a 40 year old cousin that he would hangout with and he would make her have sex with him.
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>>32609940
>but the worst one I saw was a girl who's bf convinced her to let another girl into the relationship for threesomes, and basically just used the new girl as a gf and the autistic girl as a way to pay rent since they lived together
holy shit what a chad
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>>32609921
Based.
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>>32609938
>I don't think I'll be comfortable opening up to someone enough to have a relationship any time soon
You greatly over estimate how much men need for a relationship
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>>32609938
The get under a guy to get over a guy strategy?
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I love my gf but she was kind of a whore in the past what do I do?
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>>32609942
Shit my autism is showing that's embarrassing

Uhh maybe in a counterculture way or someone who's not afraid to be labeled as weird or a bitch for not acting "right"?
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>>32609860
>I masturbate 5-30 times per week but a paper towel is enough to clean that
It's a shame all that pussy juice is going to waste.
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>>32609951
I would need it for it be a relationship and not just a sex thing.

>>32609954
I don't think so? There's just no replacement for real dick.
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>>32609732
I still don't believe you exist.
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>>32609878
That's worrisome but I haven't gotten any comments. I hope my clothes don't reek of pussy when I go out. The smell can't be that strong, surely
>>32609898
I just said I don't shower before or after sex or masturbation, I don't get why that would be either icky or hot
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>>32609929
Honestly no. Sex is always available, and even after very painful break ups when I couldn't imagine dating anyone at the time, I never thought I'd never find a bf
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>>32609957
Post better bait next time
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>>32609939
>damn searching for a bf who wouldn't mistreat me is too stressful
Oh come on, it can't be that hard
>>32609972
>Sex is always available,

How?
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Men I actually have like a real question for once not a hypothetical

Your coworker (superior to you) in her 50s gives you her daughter's (your age, you've met her briefly a few times and seem to be similar people) number and suggests a platonic activity.

You have texted the daughter, scheduled the activity, and added a casual dinner early in the day, like only retirees are going to be in the restaurant at the time.

What are the chances you're trying to smash? Should I be concerned.
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Femanons, if a guy friend wanted to do some of your housework, would you let him?

Yes, it's a kink. But you'd have assurances that there wouldn't be any flirting, lewd questions, oversharing/TMI, or anything like that. There could even be certain places and jobs that are off limits, like the bedroom and laundry for example.
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>>32609976
Me, like 5%
My friends?
110%
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>>32609977
Honestly? I probably would let you do my dishes I really hate it.
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>>32609978
Ok so variable I'm going to have to go off vibes from the 10 minutes I've spent in person with the guy

My prediction is "would if I offered but won't try anything" okay I can work with that. He is cute I'm just not up for it and it's weird that my mom set it up. I want to be prepared if I have to redirect.
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>>32609976
What >>32609978 said.

A business partner of mine once tried to hook me up with his daughter (who is about half my age). That was awkward.
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>>32609976
>chances you're trying to smash
That same day? Like 5%
In general? Pretty high, idk, are you desirable?
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>>32609973
should i just dump her
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>>32609983
Good luck femanon, sounds like you're developing a gameplan, but don't forget to have fun.
I wish you success.
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women do you have any male friends?
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>>32609959
>Shit my autism is showing that's embarrassing
Haha.
>Uhh maybe in a counterculture way or someone who's not afraid to be labeled as weird or a bitch for not acting "right"?
I like that, but no.
You get one more guess.
What could "the nail that sticks out gets hammered down. I like women who stick out a bit," mean euphemistically?
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either gender,

should I take the latina pill?
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>>32609976
Personally I would be suoer hesitant about the whole thing and probably not even try to make it romantic unless I really felt a connection. Dating a coworker's daughter sounds like a lot of pressure
I'd never use that as casual sex though that sounds stupid, you have to see the mom at work still
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>>32609999
What race are you?
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>>32609999
>either gender,
>should I take the latina pill?
M
Not until I get married first.
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>>32609986
That's so cringe I'm so sorry
>>32609987
>in general? Pretty high
This feels like it's true. I'd consider myself somewhere between a 6 and a 7 on a good day. Okay so if he asks to hang out again I should suggest board games with my mother got it.
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>tfw no latinas where I live

i suffer in europe
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>>32609976
>Your coworker (superior to you) in her 50s gives you her daughter's (your age, you've met her briefly a few times and seem to be similar people) number and suggests a platonic activity.
Wouldn't he risk pissing off your mom if he tries to pump & dump you?
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>>32610008
Which part of Europe are you in?
There are lots in Spain and Portugal.
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>>32609992
No
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>>32609976
M

I'm a no sex-before-marriage guy but when you're set up on a date by a mutual, ESPECIALLY HER PARENT, you don't plan on fucking on the first date. If it happens, it happens, but don't plan on it. I hope you have fun and it works out!

>>32610002
mulatto
>>32610005
sry anon I don't wanna wait for you to get married to go on a date. That's not very reliable and who knows if I even know it's you that got married.
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>>32610016
None of the med countries.
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>>32609992
Yes, my husband.
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>>32610017
NTA but you're lucky. We suck as friends.
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>>32610018
>mulatto
It will be hard, obviously you'd have to go for the alt ones who hates her father.
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Gender
Who was in the wrong here?
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>>32609979
Cool! Anything else?
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>>32609975
Friends that I know I could easily sleep with if I wanted to, plus it's not difficult to meet people and hook up
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>>32609991
Thank you! I'll need it I haven't hung out with anyone I wasn't intending to fuck in like a decade I think I forgot how to have friends.
>>32609994
Well now I feel bad :/
>>32610000
This makes sense and makes me feel a bit better thank you
>>32610010
I'm pretty sure my mom has sussed out that I'm usually the dumper despite me not sharing much about my sex/love life with her. I think she's more worried for him I'm not sure why she suggested this in the first place. I mean sure I haven't dated anyone since 2020 and don't have any friends but I'm chillin. I don't know why she would think I suddenly want friends after not giving a shit about that for a decade so the only conclusion left is that she thinks we'd be cute together because we're essentially the same person according to her.
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>>32610031
>NTA
Have you slept with any of them before?
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>>32609977
I could never, it would feel like I was taking advantage of him. I'd give myself the ick
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>>32609102
"Nice boobs and thinks I'm funny" will win my heart desu
>>32609219
>caring about bare boobs
Americanisation intensified further
>>32609370
That's dark lol
>>32609382
M, just ask desu, I never lied when girls asked
>>32609414
Can confirm, Ritsu best girl, am still virgin
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>>32609992
Less friends and more "guys I haven't removed from Instagram because I think they'd fuck me if I asked but I don't talk to them"
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>>32610027
M

The fact that the nurse is a crossdresser isn't relevant to the fact that the black nurse was almost certainly incompetent.
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>>32610033
>Well now I feel bad :/
Why?
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>>32610038
Describe the guys you'd ask to fuck you over instagram so that I can feel bad about myself.
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>>32610027
M
Can't tell if trolling or not kek
Bro was probably an autist who spent too much time here baka
I worked in the NHS for years, they take that shit very seriously
>>32609449
>who do you wish you looked like?
Like myself but fitter and handsomer
>>32609566
Yes
>>32609577
Based (in anime)
>>32609590
M, I had a meat wrap, salad and fries, also had vodka earlier but currently on the wine
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>>32610021
>Yes, my husband.
Cute answer
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>>32609720
Become a sports interviewer I guess
>>32609957
Continue loving her I guess
>>32609976
>Your coworker (superior to you) in her 50s gives you her daughter's number
Damn I though you were going to say my MILF co-worker was going to give me her number
>What are the chances you're trying to smash
I mean I can only speak for myself but I wouldn't be, especially if I was doing an activity and dinner etc. with her I would just want to get to know and have a fun time with her
If I just wanted to smash I would download Tinder again or go to a bar/club
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>>32609994
NTA you're talking about penises, aren't you. Like mtf's
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>>32610038
>guys I haven't removed from Instagram because I think they'd fuck me if I asked but I don't talk to them
Femanon has dicks in cold storage
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>>32610045
Because I don't get it
I don't like feeling stupid
Sorry

>>32610047
One of those guys is the autistic marvel guy who eats unrefrigerated leftovers don't feel so bad lol. You're not gonna like this next part I'm sorry. He's 6'7".
Average sized dick though.
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>>32610056
>Average sized dick though
Wait how do you know this, did you see it
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>>32610056
>the autistic marvel guy who eats unrefrigerated leftovers
Listen, my autism is pure and not corrupted by pop culture as I am a coin collector autist.
It's whatever I guess.
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>>32610054
Literally
"Hey we haven't talked in 3 years but here's picture of my tits wanna hang out?"
>>32610060
He's been called upon a few times in periods of scarce local dick
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>>32610065
>"Hey we haven't talked in 3 years but here's picture of my tits wanna hang out?"
I wished that worked for me as an autistic retarded man.
I mean it has before but I want it to work for me again
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>>32610056
Fucking size queen
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Women thoughts on formula feeding
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>>32610074
NAG
But did femanons know that EU formula isn't full of corn syrup and onions and other crap like ours is that they feed our infants?
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>>32610063
He'll watch history documentaries with me he majored in it in college.

Coins are way better than trains I support you.
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>>32610071
>I mean it has before
story time?
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>tfw drunk girl is lying half asleep on the sofa next to me after party
Yes
Time to take advantage of her
I'm going to show off my Crash Team Racing Nitro Fueled speedruns
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>>32610073
Is it so wrong that I want to feel small and be fucked so hard I sometimes throw up? God damn.
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>>32610034
No, sometimes I was tempted but I tried to behave myself
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>>32610078
>He'll watch history documentaries with me he majored in it in college.
Good good, that isn't too bad but I can't stand any marvel slop.
If we're going to watch a movie it's going to be kino, you're going to be asking for my film analysis.
>Coins are way better than trains I support you.
Thank you, I love collecting Ancient Greek coins with beautiful women on them.
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>>32610081
anon pls at least wrap your arm around her shoulder while you show it
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>>32609162
>Should I write a story about a woman in love with a gay man?
I'm not trying to be rude, but why is this ok when us crushing on lesbians is bad?
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>>32610022
I had an acquaintance he kind of did suck however he was still a good friend, howbliet he didn't consider himself one. I had another one that was kind too but I cut contact for personal reasons.
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>>32610074
Personally I would be really disappointed if I had to use it and am a little judgy if women use it when they don't have any reason to (but how often does that happen that shit's expensive) but no judgement if they're struggling. Fed is best.
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>>32610081
>take advantage of her
The last time a chick got blackout drunk in my living room I made sure nobody touched her and then sent her the video from my camera and told her she had to go out with me if she didn't want me to release vids of her ranting about Indians and Blacks. It's rape squared.
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>>32610089
He did make me watch Loki with him lol
>Ancient Greek coins
Oh that's a hell of a lot cooler than a bunch of reject pennies from the 1800s I can vibe with that. Post the prettiest lady?
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>>32610097
>howbliet
What
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>>32610081
Wtf I would actually be into this if I was too drunk to move
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>>32610079
>story time?
Sure, I texted this woman I fucked when I was 15 when I was like 19 and asked if she wanted to hangout.
So I went over to her house and she had weed gummies for me set out and I ate some and we talked for a bit until she got into the shower and she came out with only some boxer briefs on and I came up behind her and groped her boobs and she asked if I wanted to have sex and I said yeah and we fucked a bunch and she was super into it but it was pretty empty to me and I kinda got depressed from it.
She then told me she was married to a woman and I felt uncomfortable about that and left.
No idea if she was cheating on her or not.
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>>32610027
M
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>>32610074
Breastmilk is superior and I will breastfeed my future babies, but I'm not going to judge women who rely on formula
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>>32610097
>I had another one that was kind too but I cut contact for personal reasons.
Pardon if I'm prying, but was one of you crushing on the other?
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>>32610090
She's lying down in a blanket like a taco and we are just chatting shit it's not the vibe desu
Just did Sewer Speedway shortcut 3x in a row and kept sacred fire almost the entire race
>>32610107
What the hell dude
>>32610114
You have good taste in vidya
Also I am using the Princess Coco skin because Princess Coco is precious
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>>32610110
Thanks!
I think so too, I have no idea why ancient coins are the least popular category of numismatics as they aren't that expensive
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>>32610086
NTA, but I'm 5'7 and I approve.
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>>32610128
>>I had another one that was kind too but I cut contact for personal reasons.
>Pardon if I'm prying, but was one of you crushing on the other?
N/A
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>>32610126
would you breast feed your future husband too, if he asked nicely
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>>32610035
>I could never, it would feel like I was taking advantage of him. I'd give myself the ick
Oh wow, is there anything that could make you feel more comfortable with it?
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>>32610086
Was talking about Dick size
But yes it is
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>>32610077
>EU has good baby formula
>EU forced apple to stop using their proprietary cable
is the EU more based than I thought?
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>>32610130
Augh I love that shit someone stamped that on a blob of hot metal a couple thousand years ish ago, it passed through who knows how many hands and now you have it. I don't know how more people don't think that's the coolest thing ever.
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>>32610056
>He's 6'7".
>Average sized dick though.
His pp must look tiny
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>>32610133
And it's not like I won't fuck short guys they have more reliably stiff dicks there's pros and cons for both
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>>32610087
How do you know you could easily have sex with them? I mean, you're probably right, but I'm still curious. Do you catch them checking you out?
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>>32610139
I was trying to make that anon feel better not complaining you dumbass
>>32610144
When he's standing across the room sure but my hand doesn't change in scale it works out fine
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>>32610145
>short guys have more reliably stiff dicks
You didn't have to try and make me feel better. But that's good to know.
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>>32610141
Food regulations in general are something I thank god for every day
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>>32610142
I completely agree with you.
This coin was from Magna Graecia, greater Greece more specifically Sicily, and a hot spring called Himera which is the name of the Nymph said to inhabit it.
That hot spring Nymph is also who is on the face of the coin!
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>>32610107
>capitalizing the b in black
Good to know you're a supporter of BLM!
Shout outs to all my anti-racist bros, y'all are goated!
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>>32610151
I swear I'm not trying to butter you up just doing some fact sharing.

You naturally have more efficient blood flow than larger guys. If you also do cardio you're unstoppable. It's always the guys who are the same size as me and/or who are really athletic who are ready to go again after like 15 minutes.
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>>32610155
And the fact that we fucking KNOW that is even cooler. Thank you for sharing!
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I keep women at a distance because I don't want to spoil my appetite
. do you understand
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Women, are there any men that you will mourn when they die?
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>>32610114
OK now we are watching Barbie Life in the Dreamhouse and eating cheese and rooting for Raquelle
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>>32610168
Women don't give a shit about men.
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Hey guys

I don't want to look like I'm trying too hard to look undesirable tomorrow for the thing with my mom's coworker. Do you think it's cool if I wear leggings if my coat covers my ass? Or should I do some wide legged pants for the feminine gaze type shit. I don't want him to feel like I'm aggressively dressing like a lesbian to ward him off but do want to ward him off.
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>>32610171
This guy understands millennial white women. I bet you're a fucking menace if you're cute lol.
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>>32610182
You should cut your hair short and wear a flannel
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>>32610145
>they have more reliably stiff dick
You here that ladies, give the short guys a chance.
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>>32610137
Absolutely, and he wouldn't have to ask

>>32610138
Not really, you said it's a kink for you which means there's an inherent dynamic to it even if it isn't made explicit. It's not my thing at all so it would be uncomfortable on that level alone, but beyond that it would feel immoral on my part, akin to accepting cash or gifts from random men online
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>>32610182
>but do want to ward him off.
It's orge
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>>32610185
Do I? I'm honestly just a Barbie/dolls enjoyer lol
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>>32610056
>Because I don't get it
>I don't like feeling stupid
>Sorry
Aww, I just meant bratty women need a good dicking :)
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>>32610187
It's already weird it's shaved on the sides.
And the guy and I legitimately may have the same shirt on when he shows up tomorrow lol. I'm more concerned about the pants.
>>32610191
I JUST got home from taking care of my grandpa while he was dying the funeral was Tuesday I'm not up for this shit I don't know what my mom was thinking.
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>>32610086
>I want to feel small and be fucked so hard I sometimes throw up?
Um... story time, please?
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>>32610087
>No, sometimes I was tempted but I tried to behave myself
Femanons always deciding to be good girls...
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>>32610182
Just dress how you want and do a female classic of mentioning your bf or prospective bf "so I've been talking to this guy.. [situation].. what do you think?"
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I just got Invisalign braces put on as an adult and they will be on for at least a year. Should I just give up on getting a gf in that time?
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>>32610207
No, people get invisalign so they can continue dating.
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>>32610146
The ones I'm thinking of, we've flirted and they've either hit on me or made unambiguous invitations
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>>32610199
>JUST got home from taking care of my grandpa while he was dying the funeral was Tuesday
Nta but really sorry to hear that
I don't think you should go ahead with the meetup/date if you're not feeling up go it
You don't have to share personal details of course but I'm sure he'll be understanding if you want to cancel/reschedule (at least he should be)
>>32610207
I don't think it should be a hindrance really, anyone who thinks they're dorky or whatever is probably a bullet dodged anyway desu
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Women, what's the sluttiest thing you've done?
Was it fun?
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>>32610215
>we've flirted and they've either hit on me
Is it good or bad when you do this with your friends?
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Femanons, when did you realise you could win any argument or get a man to do something for you just by smiling genuinely at him?
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Girls?
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>>32610201
It's happened a couple times actually once from the dick being so large and once from being shaken so hard I popped like a soda bottle.
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>>32610203
I try my best but obviously I'm not all the way there yet since I'm still posting on here
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>>32610204
Well that's just bitchy. I see no reason to lie to the guy.
>>32610217
I know you're right but the people pleaser in me feels bad
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If someone has a 3/10 face but a 10/10 body, is their attractiveness based solely on the face or the average of both scores?
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>>32610248
I don't think it's an exact average of both scores you probably have to break it down trait by trait because it varies a little bit what people prioritize in a partner's appearance. I would probably fuck certain guys with that description but not ones with nasty teeth for example.
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>>32610220
There's always been a bit of flirting and sexual tension with these guys, so it's not like they were ever completely 100% platonic friends in that sense
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>>32610182
Dont fuck guys your mom knows unless you want her knowing you are a slut
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>>32610229
It does get random men to do things for me but it definitely doesn't win arguments
Am I doing something wrong
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>>32610182
Just dress like shit
We notice when you dress like a slut beyond that we dont think about what you wear unless its cute or slutty
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>>32610229
This doesn't work on autistic men like myself. When I'm right, I'm right. I will only be convinced by sound arguments of reason or evidence to the contrary.
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>>32610260
I live with her dude she knows
And if you were paying attention this conversation is about how to clearly communicate to this guy that I don't want to fuck
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>>32610263
No, you're right, didn't mean to invalidate your experiences, you're absolutely right and I was wrong to say otherwise. It just hasn't happened to you yet, but I'm sure it will someday because you have an absolutely gorgeous smile.
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like 7 years ago I tried out one of those home chef meal kit things and while it was occasionally fun it was ultimately unremarkable with one exception.
There was a single dish that was just so unbelievably fucking good I had to go back to the website and check the reviews which linked me up to the particular chef they had that designed that particular meal. Guy was YOUNG and just starting out as a chef but cross checking his meals they all had amazing reviews and I selected every meal I could that maximized his meal designs for the rest of the subscription and they were the only thing I could talk about for months.
Now 7 years later I come across a channel in my feed and SURPRISE it's him making food and he's just exploding in popularity. I do a google search and he's got recipes out there now that people go absolutely crazy over. I knew he was a mozart-level food wizard the moment I tasted a RECIPE of his it was just a matter of time for other's to get exposed and to catch up. If it was his actual work? ugh., my body turns weak just at the thought. And here's a 4chan twist to it, I'm obviously super racist, and he's a real darkie, and I don't even care. Talent supersedes race.

If you've read this far you might be wondering what the hell this is all about . Here's the rub, women, especially white women who by all accounts I should be rating HIGHER than black men, you just aren't because you've never struck that level of connection with a man. You'll never be mozart-level at anything and make random men that you've never met praise your skills like that. I just made a cocktail of his design and the first sip made my eyes roll into the back of my head. Why, in the history of the world, has there yet to be a single woman who's achieved even something close to that?
And how women are ok with that?

Sometimes I wonder, do women even know what they're missing?
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TIL dogs tilt their heads when they're literally trying to interpret your human english.
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how do i find a 2012/2013 internet culture nostalgia gf? i need one who'll get genuinely flustered when i tell her i think she's the boopinest
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>>32610277
NAG but this post sounds hella gay ngl
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JH really said: my uncle is the first and last man to cum on me or inside me!

Her unconditional love for her dead unc is amazing.
Imagine a female still loving you decades later to the point where she doesn't allow other men to cum on her/inside her even after you pass away. This is why men want to be the first to take a girl's virginity.
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>>32610267
I think this is the answer I just don't want it to be obviously intentional
I'm gonna do some laundry
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>>32610182
Are you the one who showers once a week? Just show up being stinky
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>>32610280
I found this, but it's actually kind of horrific.
She got statutorily raped.
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i love being black. only cool whites enjoy me.
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>>32610280
Ask her if she liked Homestuck
It doesn't matter if she did or didn't just see how passionate the answer is
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>>32610283
We dont care about fashion. Fashion is gay. He most likely wont notice.
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>>32610286
Gross no I shower at least twice a week
And I definitely need to before tomorrow I haven't since Tuesday at this point I'd be being rude if I didn't. But I'll use my men's deodorant instead of the citrus and spice one good call.
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Do women even fuck on the 12th date
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Women, what are your thoughts on the borders of the World War I Kingdom of Lithuania as planned by the German Empire before it surrendered?
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>>32610296
I think he does care a little bit from looking at him. It's not so much the fashion I'm concerned about but what highlighting certain assets does or does not communicate.
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>>32610282
Wasn't she raped by him?
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>>32610277
Hey, you have a cuckolding fetish.
Black people food has spices in it. That is why you like it as opposed to the average autistic/geriatric that is probably using the service.
I can probably profile all his shit by taste and make it better according to what I like. That is true cooking talent, being able to cook for yourself with what you can get.
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>>32610087
That’s too much work for me
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>>32610300
Have you met him before? What if you actually end up liking him? Honestly I would think about treating it like any other date just in case, although I saw your grandpa passed away recently so it's understandable if you're not feeling it. But if you're meeting him regardless, might as well be open to the slim possibility that maybe he's cute and fun?
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>>32610331
I have met him and he seems cool
But I haven't dated anyone in years and have plans to leave the state for six months in mid March it's just not a good time.
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>>32610321
Im pretty sure thats a fanfic that that particular anon made up
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>>32610318
NTA but I'm sceptical to the extent that is going to be interpreted as a signal. I honestly think that while guys are not completely oblivious to clothes, and certainly dressing in a certain manner can highlight your features and make you more appealing, I don't think it's going to deter someone who already agreed to go on a date with you from pursuing things further. Especially since a guy is going to take your willingness to go on a date already as a positive signal.
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>>32610182
Honestly if you're letting someone live so rent free in your head like this then just kill yourself, it seems easier than staying alive at that point.
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>>32610321
No.
They slept together twice and she fell in love with him, albeit a forbidden love. Her uncle killed himself because JH's family found out. He didn't want to die, but he couldn't keep on living without JH.
She was Juliet and he was Romeo.
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>>32610340
I don't think you understand the level of social interaction I've had with other people in the past 4 years I don't want to do this but my mom is going to get all weird about it if I refuse

And if I try to kill myself again and fail I have to go to inpatient again and I hate that it's fucking boring and not helpful and costs $7000 which is annoying on principle even though I don't pay it.
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>>32610282
That's not true. She got SA'd at 8 and I assume that's where her trauma like bedwetting in her 30s and hating jizz comes from. I feel bad for her.
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>>32610351
I don't know what to tell you then, if you hate being a woman the only real solution is to just kill yourself, and rest assured that is the case.
Most men won't admit it but push comes to shove, most will fuck a lesbian no matter how fat or bald, and I'm guessing you aren't morbidly obese so womp womp.
Like I said the only solution is to kill yourself. Take it or leave it otherwise go out wearing a bikini knowing you'll be ogled anyway.
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>>32610339
See it's not explicitly a date that's why I'm worrying about the communication. We're essentially running an errand together but he suggested dinner BUT at old people dinner time and obviously there's the whole coworker of my mother thing but I've also gotten a vibe when I've interacted with him that he does find me attractive so I'm overthinking it.
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>>32610362
I am simply trying to craft a scenario where I don't have to have a conversation about it it's just implied by my behavior and clothing choices
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>>32610369
Men can't read when a woman is dropping hints that she wants them to ask her out, you think he'll be able to get that you don't want to fuck him if you wear certain clothes?
Laughable.
Seriously though kill yourself, it's the only way out, otherwise go there dressed like a clown.
A sexy clown.
Because he will still want to fuck you.
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>>32610335
Just to play devil's advocate, maybe a fun date would do you some good? It's not like you're committing to anything, a single date doesn't have to lead anywhere. I just know I would hate it if I purposely tried to make myself look unappealing, and then ended up actually liking the guy. idk, why not enjoy feeling cute and letting yourself have fun, even if you already know it's not going to go anywhere? Just a thought is all, I don't mean to minimize the other stuff
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>>32610373
I refuse to believe that all men are so dense as to think it makes no difference whether I chose to wear my good yoga pants, the pants that make me look like mid 40s grade school art teacher, or literally men's jeans when I spend time alone with them.
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>>32610240
Fuck that's hot!
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>>32610377
But I go see my mom at work sometimes.
I don't want to make it weird.
And I don't think I could make myself get cute and have fun if I tried t b h. Just making myself shower is proving difficult.
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>grieving girl
>"yeah just fuck this guy you don't like"
>"literally do it or kill yourself"
women have it rough holy shit
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>>32610365
It depends on his personality. I suspect that if he finds you attractive he considers it a date, or a romantic opportunity at least. But it's not like there are any attachments to it, so you can simply leave afterwards and tell him you'll be quite busy in the next weeks if he asks for a second date or something.
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Women how would you feel if your husband spent 638.26 on a raid controller (plus shipping)
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>>32610378
>women think if they blink in morse code "ask me out" that he would understand it
I've had women say that their flirting is doing a double take at a guy, which is literally them just sitting there and looking. No reasonable person is going to interpret that as a flirt.
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>>32610378
Men won't notice, they will check out your ass anyway, admire it, and ignore the clothing context. You're the retard for thinking otherwise not men, because men are hardwired to be literal fuck machines and will fuck anything anyway.
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>>32610387
>because men are hardwired to be literal fuck machines and will fuck anything anyway.
No that's women
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>>32610270
>I live with her dude she knows
Lol, based!
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>>32610386
They know when I'm flirting. I have the opposite problem
My sister has actually talked to me about it like "hey I know you're a different kind of autistic than me so you don't get this but you can't fucking do that with people you're not interested in"
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>>32610382
>grieving girl
>NO I HAVE TO DO THIS!
>Well if you do you have to accept that no matter what there is a fundamental rule of law that states that things will go down how you don't want them to if you already know the guy is interested in you and clothes won't change that.
>NOOOO
>Fine then kill yourself if you want a way out.
>OMG GIRLS HAVE IT LE ROUGH! Let me hug you girlies I'm totally not a manipulator.
Nah women are just daft mentally like men are daft sexually.
>>32610389
Partly true but they have a higher choice threshold.
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This current convo sucks fuck off you retards
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>>32610392
You're autistic. she just doesn't want to say no, because her mom is being a cunt.
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>>32610391
I'm nta I just jumped in because a lot of women who want to communicate things but not do it explicitly have these weird ideas that normal actions transmute into something different because she is thinking about it differently.
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>>32610218
>Women, what's the sluttiest thing you've done?
MFM
>Was it fun?
Yes.
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>>32610387
I'm aware that if he's interested he's going to look but if he's not an asshole and has some tact he's going to look at the whole picture of kinda frumpy outfit, no makeup, bad hair day, plus sad and at the very least think "well she's not trying to impress me/look cute that's for sure"
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>>32610394
Don't be rude but hard agree. I'd much rather talk about hyped I am about the plushie arriving on the 5th :^)
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>>32610199
>It's already weird it's shaved on the sides
Hope he's not a tomboy fetishist
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>>32610396
>Hey mom this coworker of yours is a creep and is hitting on me, I'm not gonna go sorry.
>Oh thanks for telling me sweetie, sure.
Instead she will develop some retarded telepathy based gameplan from a kids cartoon thinking she can both keep her mothers expectations in check while avoiding the male gaze when the male gaze will make men fuck tree bark, no, this is going to blow up horribly in her face.
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>>32610394
Be constructive
Give us something else to talk about
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Women, would you ever not date a man because of their political beliefs? How important are political beliefs in determining if you would date someone?
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>>32610399
Sweetie, you are in a thread of men with fetishes for retarded neet women (not me but a good chunk I know of) there is nothing you can do to make a man off put by your appearance whether you like it or not.
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>>32610240
>once from the dick being so large
Whoa, how big was he?
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>>32610404
I hate these fake deep quotes that almost rhyme, but say nothing.
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>>32610401
Did you have to check your documents or do you just remember this shit
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>>32610406
I wouldn't want to date anyone who knew anything about 4chan other than what they heard from other sources.
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>>32610321
>orbiter
Smart people don’t post on 4chan because they have much more important things to do with their time like not simping
>>32610378
If we don’t either like you or hate you then you are basically invisible to us
>>32610386
Unattractive women will flirt with men out of their league thinking that they will be subtle and perceptive like a women, they don’t understand how intimacy works because they have shit tier genetics and a pinched face
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>>32610240
I threw up after doing ketamine last week.
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>>32610240
You must be pretty tiny?
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>>32610394
Non sex havers fuck off autistic faggots go be lonely and depressed somewhere else
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>>32610410
Not my point you regarded fool, my point is men will find all sorts of women attractive, he doesn't need to be on 4chan to find unkempt shriveled women to be endearing, cute, or hot.
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>>32610362
Damn anon. Do you have a personality disorder?
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>>32610289
i had a similar experience actually, with the last girl i dated :(

>>32610292
this is honestly not a bad test, although idk what i'd do if they enthusiastically said YES, I LOVED HOMESTUCK
i mean, i'd vibe with their passion but i was very much not a tumblr person
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Women: I think I just insulted a friend's wife by accident. I made a joke about me being fat. She is fatter than I am and seemed upset about it. What should I do?
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>>32610409
What? Did you already mention that he was into that?
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>>32610410
aw, i don't think i'm that bad v_v you wouldn't want to date a guy full of whimsy?
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>>32610416
I just hate women especially ones who can't understand the world and have the same mentality as black people who are asked the breakfast question.
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>boyfriend is a switch, leans submissive enough that we work
>I am an exclusively dominant woman
How awful will this be long-term? I will always lead the relationship outside of sex which is good, but thinking of him someday losing sexual interest because he wants to dominate me makes me enraged.
Has anyone experienced this? Does love overcome it? For the record we are both making sexual sacrifices as I am also attracted to women and have obviously given up anyone else but him.
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>>32610415
>Not my point you regarded fool
I wouldn't say I'm well regarded around here, but count me flattered anon :3c
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>>32610263
What kind of things? Like buying you a drink?
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>>32610404
Yes. I would never ever want to date someone that has ever considered conservative politics to be profitable.
You're a retard.
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>>32610427
You aren't well regarded, you're regarded as a fool. It seems you're so stupid you can't read apparently.
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>>32610406
Neets are fat and gross who on earth would want a hard choice when Stacy is literally free and horny at the club
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>>32610430
A regarded fool is still regarded, and I'm still flattered.
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>>32610425
The externals either outweigh the relationship or they don't. And that will be for both of you to measure and talk about.
I have been swindled by many a switch whore man.
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>>32610424
>same mentality as black people who are asked the breakfast question.
The answer isn't chicken and waffles?
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God have mercy on her, God have mercy on me... BUT STACY NEEDS TO SUCK MY COCK OR SHE WILL BUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN
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>>32610399
NTA but just pay your own bill and if he asks if you want to go back to his place say no thanks. I'm not sure I understand why it needs to be so complicated
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>>32610432
Because humans are more mentally defective than normal, and years of outside influences have made men care about different sorts of women, so some of us don't want Stacy.
>>32610435
The question is "What if you didn't have breakfast today, how would you feel?"
"But I did have breakfast today."
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>>32610424
That was a "yes" to having a personality disorder?
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>>32610436
No one says this, not even incels
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>>32610406
I'm not trying to put him off I'm hoping he's a decent person and will refrain based on my signals because I really don't want to talk about it.
>>32610404
Definitely. Certain beliefs are pretty good indicators that we're not going to get along or like each other very much.
>>32610407
Legit like 8 inches you could feel it in that little triangle neck hollow when I deepthroated him
>>32610411
Well I'm not invisible so shit
>>32610412
I'm sorry? Do you know my cousin?
>>32610413
Tall ish, but thin. Nowhere for my organs to go so breakfast had to instead.
>>32610428
Not like that like little favors if I need something I can't reach or want to trade granola bar flavors or something. I don't think I've ever tried to get a drink out of a guy I wasn't explicitly on a date with.
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My uber eats is here I got an Italian sub roll
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this dog character triggers my anger response it's so obviously mexican coded
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>>32610442
I think more zoomers need to face frollo's lust on a screen.
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>>32610444
>Do you know my cousin?
Do they live in Arizona?
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Ladies:
What's with some girls thinking anal is less taboo than vaginal?
I dated a girl in school who let me fuck her up the ass but didn't let me hit it from the front because she thought she was too young (we were both 14). What's the rationale? Isn't anal a more extreme and degrading sex act than normal vaginal?
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>>32610444
>Legit like 8 inches you could feel it in that little triangle neck hollow when I deepthroated him
You're dangerously based
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>>32610450
I have no idea what you mean but it is a good song. /v/ did a great version of it as well:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=heIH9vfwKBM
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>>32610453
My gf lets me finger her ass whenever I want free access she loves feeling helpless and owned
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Girls
I-I kind of want to fuck this character in this anon's post. Is it over for me? >>32610433

>>32610425
i am a submissive-leaning switch. my last ex, who i would estimate as being 100% sexually compatible with me, was dominant-leaning switch. perfect the usual case, and embrace switching things up every now and again. my ex and i looked at sex as a game, something worth having fun with and exploring, keep a playful attitude like that and you both should be fine imo. looking at it as "sacrifices" i don't think is good framing in lieu of a more playful attitude.
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>>32610457
I don't think based is the word you're looking for here.
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Femanons, would you date a man with a shopping addiction?
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>>32610441
Maybe anger issues, I don't know, but I am saying that regardless this is a really good reason to get angry at people.
>>32610444
>I'm hoping he's a decent person
Lol
Lmao
Rofl
Jej
Kek
:skull emoji:
Good luck with tomorrow, it's going to end horribly and there is no way to avoid it, enjoy retard. I'm gonna "I told you so" so hard.
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>>32610442
They lack the passion for it.
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>>32610437
I think I've sorted it out I'm going to ask if instead of going to get diner he wants to pick up Mexican and come back to my mom's place and play board games with her I feel like this is a safe plan lmao
>>32610452
Not that I'm aware of but who knows where he's been lately
>>32610453
My personal theory is 1. It's a religious thing and 2. The butt is not where babies are made. Feels safer.
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>>32610461
I have to admit, that girl I mentioned gave me a huge anal fixation. I do get off on the 'making them feel helpless and owned' part a lot. It's better than sex itself.
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>>32610469
I feel like you're projecting or attempting to manifest a bad outcome because you definitely have anger issues. He really does seem chill if it was this past August instead of now I'd be treating this situation differently.
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Should I start learning how to read braille?
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>>32610484
start learning how to suck dick.
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>>32610463
You've never seen mimiposter before?
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>>32610440
You should kill yourself probably
>>32610444
I thought everyone wanted the power of invisibility
>>32610476
Based dark triad chad
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>>32610482
I didn't ask for your life story lady, just be sure to post the outcome same time tomorrow so I can laugh at your woman retardation thinking men have telepathy.
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>>32610484
There is no point in that since you can't communicate with people real time with it.
Only use is if you're going blind yourself.
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Women would you rather your boyfriend frequently sent you zoomer memes, or Vtuber clips?
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>>32610474
That would definitely send a message, but remember you can't actually control what this guy thinks or feels about you. You aren't obligated to have some big convo about sex on a first date, that would honestly be really weird especially since your mom is his boss. You can go out for dinner and have a nice time and not have to explain yourself for not wanting to have sex that night, that's like the default lol and if he has a problem with it that's for him to deal with not you
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>>32610488
?
I was saying it would be nice to be invisible in this situation?
>>32610489
I'm not sure if you noticed but I'm not one to pass up a (you) all you gotta do to shut me up is stop fueling me lol.
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>>32610488
I like getting angry at women so I have no problems, suicide is only a suggestion if people have problems, stay mad.
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>>32610485
Gay
>>32610490
You think? Seems cool to just know it, but it isn't a faster form of reading and the only upside to it is if I do go blind I'll be able to read braille and if not then I can read in the dark, but that then requires buying a book in braille.
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>>32610484
You’ll have to learn it the same way a blind person does.
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>>32610496
I'm not reading that but if you want a (You) here, they're free, aka worthless, aka how much janny is paid.
DOn't spend it all in one place
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>>32610493
It's not even a date. What I'm hoping for here is for him to interpret that I'm definitely not trying to turn it into a date and acting accordingly.
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>>32610399
i'm nta but i think you're putting way too much stock to things that are actually not really clear signals. if i saw that on a date, i wouldn't conclude you weren't trying to impress me or look cute, rather i'd end up assuming you had a bad day, had little time to get ready, or perhaps have some kind of depressive issue if i were REALLY reaching. and i'm a too-feminine terminal empath sort of guy, so i imagine the average male response would be to ignore most of that.

if you're doing an activity with me, i assume it is because you want to, and are open to things going in any direction (although i always take things slowly cuz your boy is hypersensitive).
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>>32610434
>I have been swindled by many a switch whore man
Oh no, how?
He also doesn't id as a switch and we aren't in "the BDSM community" which I feel would be a risk factor. I just dominate him and will be controlling both of our lives more or less, think 100% reverse trad. He doesn't like labels aside from being The Wife and my baby.
He was not sexually successful before meeting me so I don't know if that would start under these circumstances, but cheating always finds a way I guess.
>>32610463
I understand, sex is definitely fun for us and we've done nuts shit since the start. I just am able to see things literally/without emotion and was anticipating criticism on here as a woman. Just assuring that I care so much for him.
Sadly the only flexibility I have is that I do LOVE service topping and will do vanilla, but even something like being facefucked would make want to kill him and myself (not in a sexy sadism way). Being choked, slapped, or insulted is so far out of the question even if I know these are common among most people.
What happened to end your relationship if you were so sexually compatible? Not that sex is everything (part of my fear here is that it is).
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>>32610425
I'm a switch, and I definitely think I could be happy with a Domme.

I'd actually like it if you had a woman FWB though. A lot of male ego is wrapped up in being successful with women, and having a Domme outclass me in that respect sounds really hot.
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All genders. Do you feel you are getting a better understanding of the other gender from ATOGA threads, given that by virtue of the self selecting sample size of only other 4chan posters, it is unlikely the people answering questions are a representative sample size of the opposite gender in question?
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>>32610510
>all genders
there are only two...
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>>32610510
M
Going here has radicalized me into being more misogynist than years of abuse from women or incel communities ever had before. Womens opinions vary, but their nature does not. Yes I would say it has given me a better understanding.
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>>32610510
M
I've always known I just use this as a chat group and answer other's questions.
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>>32610491
Zoomer memes no question
My little sister knows what makes me laugh so the ones she sends me are actually kind of funny
>>32610500
So bitter
I'll take this opportunity to inform the thread that I'm eating a nutty buddy
>>32610503
But it's NOT a date that's the important part a bunch of you keep missing
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>>32610518
I don't know what that is but it sounds fat, have another (You) fatty fat fat.
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>>32610463
>Is it over for me?
No, but I'm biased
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>>32610510
I'm of the opinion that all data is useful.
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>>32610510
Not particularly
Once every like, 30 threads I learn something that feels helpful
>>32610519
320 calories that I definitely need right now
Have you been reading any of this? You didn't go for the obvious choice of crazy you went with fat? I'm a size 2.
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>>32610504
things had to end between us 'cuz we are both dysfunctional people, exacerbated each other's issues. which sucks cuz we're also both compatible in almost every way, and were very much in love when things ended. we still are, really, but she's had to cut contact with me completely while getting therapy. i plan to do the same, the vibe is wanting to get better and get back in each other's lives. we'll see.

your responses to domination sound like they come from a pathological place, if i'm being honest. you should consider investigating that, because any unaddressed issues might erode your relationship which is really not fun ;_; we've been broken up for about 70 days now, not a day goes by that i don't ruminate on it intensely
>>32610518
it sounds like a date, if you're that worried about it then just be explicit about what this is with him
>>32610521
i like your bias and i hope more women have a bias like yours
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>>32610425
Tie him up for all future blowjobs, if you're good enough, he'll forget about facefucking etc.
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>>32610526
So you're of the opinion that it's implicitly a date because I agreed to get food or? Fuck.
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>>32610510
M
Femanons are pretty useful for the more taboo stuff
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>>32610524
I didn't ask for your life story I just said that's fat and it is fat otherwise you'd be eating protein fatty.
Anyway I'd like to announce I'm brushing my teeth right now, I got toothpaste on my teeth, I'm clean as fuck man, I'm brushing my shit.
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>>32610536
Was the steak that was about to go bad not enough for you god damn
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>>32610529
oh i mean i don't know the exact circumstances but it'd be hard to imagine it as something else unless it was explicitly stated. just be up front though, or maybe embrace the energy, it could be lots of fun :D
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>>32610539
No I eat enough protein in a day to sustain the entire cattle industry get on my level.
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ADHD retard here again
What do you guys do when you are indecivise and don't know what to do next? Probably one of my biggest problems is that when I don't know what to do, I don't do anything and I'll do nothing for hours when I'm not at work or have free time.
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>be me
>order pizza
>when it gets here, remember I don't like pizza
>force myself to eat it anyway so it doesn't go to waste
Women, why have you done this to me?
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>>32610544
How many hammers do you have?
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>>32610547
Usually bite the bullet and make a choice too late but still get it done.
>>32610550
Not enough
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>>32610463
>Is it over for me?
Yes
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>>32610541
I mean
We're running an errand together set up by my mother and he asked if I wanted to get food after
That doesn't sound like a date to me
>>32610544
I bet your shits smell terrible
>>32610547
You have several options depending on what you think is going to work
You can "eat the frog" meaning do the worst thing first to get it out of the way, do the easiest thing first and either ride that momentum and get some more done or take a break to reward yourself and get nothing else done, or you number the tasks put them in a hat telling yourself you'll do them in the order you pull them but actually you'll keep pulling until you get the one you've just now decided you're most willing to do because those stupid little papers took the choice away from you.
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>went to store
>Walking through aisles
>See this qt girl who sometimes works as cashier push a container with food stuff to restock shelf
>We smile to eachother and i say hi
>Grabbed my stuff and heading to pay for it
>Some woman just arrived with a cart loaded to brim
>The qt sees that and opens another register for me and sits behind it
>Smiles again says hi

I love women who are nice!
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Femanons, how pathetic is it to sext with women from /soc/ on discord?
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>>32610552
>Not enough
What hammers do you have?
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>>32610561
Not as pathetic as some women who sext with AI bots to get their romance fix
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>>32610182
just act psycho and scare him off, women don't get men, you could come dressed in a clowns outfit sparkled with dog shit and he'd still fuck you if you gave him an atom of a vibe. Unlike women we don't care what you wear or what you look like if there's the slightest shimmer of pussy/companionship on the horizon. That's the reason why all the men in fashion are fags and the make-up industry solely caters to women's beauty standards instead of men's.
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>>32610557
Yeah
>>32610563
Sadly just 2.
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>>32610561
>women from /soc/
>women
>/soc/
Anon, I have bad news.
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>>32610568
:(
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>>32610559
They're nice because it's a policy for the company. If they're not you won't come back and that cashier lost a good client for the company
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>>32610552
Its hard to say this without sounding pathetic but that is probably one of the hardest things to do, its extremely emotionally painful and it burns through my willpower like wildfire to the point where I burn out if I just force myself to do things I don't want to do over the course of multiple days.
>>32610557
I've tried to gamify my tasks in the past and it worked for a while but then the system collapsed, as usual. It just sucks that I have to fight myself on getting anything done all the time, its exhausting.
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>>32610504
>Oh no, how?
They often are just narcissists that also have bpd and flip what they want on a dime, often forcing new weird fetishes into a forefront even after you explain that you are not into them. Indecisive, unreliable, weaponizing incompetence galore.
>>32610504
>He also doesn't id as a switch and we aren't in "the BDSM community" which I feel would be a risk factor.
Sweetheart, you're in "the community" if you use the lingo. Socializing isn't necessary. (Besides there are apps meant to be deleted and hidden nowadays)
>I just dominate him and will be controlling both of our lives more or less, think 100% reverse trad. He doesn't like labels aside from being The Wife and my baby.
So a lazy sub that will burn you out.
>He was not sexually successful before meeting me so I don't know if that would start under these circumstances, but cheating always finds a way I guess.
It does and it's always your fault for not meeting his checklist because they're often not mature either.
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>>32610567
I didn't ask how many hammers. What do you have? Framing? Tack? Sledge? Jack?
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>>32610565
I don't have the energy for that and if my past is any indicator being a psycho only attracts simps I don't think I want to go that route and find out if he's like that or not.
>>32610567
>stinky shits and probably only has a claw hammer and mallet
Pathetic
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>>32610510
No. Men are traumatizing to study. Each encounter is a gamble of my mental health.
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>>32610580
You just need a good cuddle and a smooch now and then
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>>32610580
Nta
Really? I find them fascinating. But I also like true crime so
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Dear women, thank you for being here, you are appreciated.
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>>32610580
I'm sorry to hear. Hope you'll take breaks when you need to.
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>>32610547
Create a dnd decision table for yourself.
Roll dice to npc.
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>>32610580
Your low on vitamin A(ffection) and vitamin k(isses)
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>>32610572
I know. But you dont have to be mean about it
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>>32610580
your brain chemistry shows you are lacking in the chemics of huggin and fuggin
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>>32610580
We won
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>>32610582
NTA
Really? We seem kind of boring compared to you.
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>>32610595
*at being gay
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>>32610561
>terrible people abusing and manipulating other terrorist people
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>>32610582
>true crime
Hot Take: If you don't love "COPS" you don't actually like true crime.
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>>32610590
Sorry anon
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>>32610526
Ah, I understand that. It's actually my goal to avoid that fate with my bf because we are both mentally ill, but we're lucky that meeting each other was the catalyst to getting help individually and remaining together is a positive (so far).
I'm hopeful for you both! May you find love in each others arms again.
>responses to domination sound like they come from a pathological place
Maybe, but mainly I'm just not into it, period. There is no universe in which it would arouse me, and if he truly wanted to force me through something that would make me suffer and not fulfill me in any way I would not like to be with him. I don't want to lose him but I have my own limits out of self-preservation, and I have never pushed his.
Perhaps I'll just talk to him about it.
>>32610528
Trust that I'm good, he is most certainly satisfied. I don't know if it will be enough forever, but maybe we never know that in any relationship and this is just an anxious brain exercise for nothing.
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>>32610600
I’m engaged, enjoying dying alone and childless
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>>32610608
>(You)
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>>32610510
f, i think i understand some things better and have gained some insights into the male condition (and also a lot of stuff about sex). i think im also more resilent to incels now and i understand them a bit better, so i just feel pity instead of disgust or hate
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>>32610608
*in a gay marriage
Enjoy dying with a loose butthole.
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>>32610559
I had a weird interaction with a cashier
>deliver packages for a living
>new route
>walk in to pet store with 7 packages all stacked up
>see cashier, girl, mid-20s, checking someone out
>say hi and ask where I can put the packages
>she tells me in the back so I deposit them and walk back
>she is standing there behind the register its just us in the store
>look over, smile and say "cya, have a good day!"
>she says "bye"
>mumbles "have a good day" that is way less audiable than the "bye".
I think about it now and then, I don't know if I creeped her out or if there was something going on with her but I always found that odd.
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>>32610612
Do you want a moid more or less?
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Men, if you were a duke would you marry a countess? Or a baroness?
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>>32610611
>entjeet.png saved on their desktop
Kek okay maybe just I won lol
>>32610510
No I have learned more about women through actually going through break ups until I found the right one, that’s how you’re supposed to do it; everybody wants to get to heaven but nobody is willing to die.
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>>32610622
Neither I would marry a Chieftess
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>>32610613
>weird globohomo psy op
Enjoying losing blood circulation to your small cock in chastity tranny faggot
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>>32610622
A countess I guess, idk I just want to find a wife.
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>>32610622
countess sounds nice, so her.
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IM A CREEP
IM A WEIRDO
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>>32610580
M
Understandable.
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>>32610629
>compulsory fetishizing of trans where none was mentioned
Tell me how I know you're a cuck in thailand.
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>>32610622
I'd abuse the young female staff and make them all have my children.
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>>32610553
v_v
>>32610557
it sounds kind of like a date. it is at least approaching a date.
>>32610607
thanks anon, i appreciate your kind words. i'm sure things will work out, i just need to be more patient (i'm very impatient). you hit the nail on the head though, just communicate your full thoughts and encourage the same. me and my ex's split was extremely circumstantial, but radical honesty communication was really key to working things out.

it's fine to not be into stuff, but if i'm doin a thing i don't want to do in bed, my response isn't homicidal-adjacent :P the response is what ought to be examined there. if you don't get off to submission then you don't, simple as, but if you're having any sort of extreme emotional reaction, then it's pointing towards something. (and honestly, i find femdom to be indicator of past trauma, dominance = exerting control over the act as a means of avoiding feelings)
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>>32609090
How do I attract an Amazonian Warrior Woman? I have needed one for a very long time, but there are usually only imitators to apply.
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I wish she was real
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>>32610639
Illegitimate children can't inherit your duchy retard
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>>32610643
Cool, why the fuck do I care?
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>>32610643
I'd just say they aren't mine, wait till they hit the age of consent and then have sex with them and make more kids with them
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>>32610648
I wouldn't do this because incest is expected of nobility.
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>>32610637
I literally just finished work and on my lunch break you severely mentally ill dysgenic retards are my disposable source of entertainment kek
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I kind of just oogled this chubby chick just because she had massive ass and red hair
I think i have a problem
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>>32610650
>finished work
>on lunch break
so you aren't finished with work...
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>>32610650
Oh, look at the jeeta's keyboard skills in the inglees language!!!!
Maybe he'll clap and do a dance in the street!
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>>32610622
Can the countess be a vampire?
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>>32610640
>it sounds kind of like a date. it is at least approaching a date.
Why though. You're freaking me out I'm considering inviting my brother to come along.
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>>32610652
Yeah I have faggots like you to vindicate until they commit suicide, it ain’t much but it’s honest work.
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>>32610650
take your meds and stop being a burden on your mother, ranjeet
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And women and men really coexist if they're equal?
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>>32610656
>they’re so lonely and depressed they think I’m a girl
It’s working
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>>32610658
NTA, but the guy will definitely get the message if you bring your brother along
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>>32610661
Did someone say HRT pills?
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>>32610658
it's just a date-activity. why freak out over it, though? it's not like first dates are ever supposed to amount to something anyway, feels harmless even if the guy does think it's a date
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>>32610608
>engaged, enjoying dying alone and childless
What did he mean by that? Why is he enjoying dying alone and childless?
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Sex
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>>32610576
>They often are just narcissists that also have bpd and flip what they want on a dime, often forcing new weird fetishes into a forefront even after you explain that you are not into them. Indecisive, unreliable, weaponizing incompetence galore
NTA
Man, I had no idea we are often seen like this.
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>>32609090
ladies how would you feel if you went on a date with a guy and he told you that the date was nothing more than an excuse for him to alleviate his boredom and practice his social skills?
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>>32610671
It's not a date activity though? And dinner is tacked on to the other activity because of the time of day. It feels silly to think that he's going to automatically assume it's a date now because I agreed to get food. And I feel like you're not considering the whole "my mom is his boss" angle.
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>>32610664
No, you retard, I was remarking on the speed of your (You).
You're so fast at shuffling your fingers over a keyboard!
You’re the kind of guy who takes pride in India’s cultural heritage like the Kama Sutra but has only jizzed on their own mother.
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>>32610641
Find a wheyfu that trains in a combat sport. Finding a straight one might be a challenge though.
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>>32610621
im bi but ive got a gf, so its like the same level of attraction
>>32610651
its ok to have a type
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>>32610682
mf the only angle you're gonna get are my fists in the form of a fish hook, stop being combative and start playing more. women, i stg -_-
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>>32610674
Incels don’t deserve access to healthcare and social security services
>>32610685
I have a gf therefore I am in an upper class you can never hope to achieve or compete with
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>>32610641
i think when i get a bit older i want to become a muscle mommy. i used to lift when i was at uni , so maybe again one day. but as >>32610687 says im with a girl rn
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>>32610660
That makes even less sense...
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>>32610692
>start playing more
Wtf does this even mean
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>>32610693
>gf
>engaged
What a liar lol
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>>32610674
He has a hard time with the english language as a thridie, also he's been caught lying about his gf for months now and still larps like we don't know.
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>>32610698
YWNBAW lol
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Femanons would you date a paternal orphan?
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>>32610705
You do know vindicate means the opposite of what you were trying to say right? How about we don't use words we don't know the meaning of until you finish your english lessons.
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>>32610700
have a more playful attitude about life instead of fixating on how much this guy is gonna pay attention to you despite the fact you're so certain it's not a date. you are worrying unnecessarily because either way ought to be a good time
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>>32610702
>>32610703
I can say whatever I want and you retards will always believe and empower me, I have capitalized control of the entire system.
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>>32610694
>i think when i get a bit older i want to become a muscle mommy
Based
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>>32610711
unironically that is all of us here, the only difference is you got caught kek
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>>32610709
>word salad
It’s okay you don’t have to apologize lmao
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>>32610635
RADIOHEAD MENTIONED <3
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>>32610710
>have a more playful attitude 4 days after your grandfather's funeral after you just spent 4 months taking care of him
Cunt
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>>32610707
Sure
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>>32610720
Where do you want to go on our first date ;)
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>>32610715
You are an unemployed loser raised in a single parent household with no spouse or partner and no future goals or ambitions, I am engaged. We are not the same.
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>>32610614
She saw that you caught her being a perv.
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>>32610716
sorry I'll try again in a language you'll understand:
I rigged the signal to appligate the internal system to turn people like you into transmogrified chaos god computers of the insane futa satan.
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>>32610719
NTA, but I didn't see you mention this.
Sorry for asking you dick related questions at a time like this.
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>>32610590
I'm not being mean, it's the truth
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>>32610724
I didn't know you could get engaged to your hand kek
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>>32610725
>NTA
Women are so good at catching us looking, I swear.
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>>32610727
I don't mind the dick questions I'm just offended by the insinuation that I should be trying harder to have fun
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Men what does it mean if my head is buzzing?
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I think racist anon that would come in here and sperg for 12 hours was probably one of the funniest trolls here
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>>32610734
How the fuck should I know?
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>>32610719
listen hon', please believe me when i say i get it, the past couple months have been awful for me, lost a relationship, had to watch my childhood cat's health rapidly decline before putting him down (he was 19!!) after taking sole care of him for almost a decade, damaged a decades long friendship, had to bury a close friend of the family who left behind a husband and two kids, temporarily lost my home to renovations...playfulness and connecting with others is EXACTLY how you move past and process grief
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>>32610229
There is healing in a woman's smile
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>>32610734
you ever do a drug or drink a beer or jerk off the first time and there's so much dopamine that your head is "ringing" or "buzzing" that is what it means.
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>>32610732
It's not your fault anon, remember that.
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>>32610743
It's definitely my fault.
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>>32610742
I have dopamine?
When did that get released?
My head had been feeling hot all day.
Now it's buzzing. Wtf?
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>>32610734
You're dehydrated?
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>>32610739
We've reached a point where I'm pretty sure trying to be annoying not just being dumb so I'm over it now
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>>32610726
>>32610730
You will never have a best friend that shares your sense of humour retards haha
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>>32610734
I am attempting astral communication. It's working.
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>>32610725
I meant checking out as in she was "ringing him up", she was scanning items lol.
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>>32610736
I wonder if he's left white women behind and emigrated to asia yet?
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>>32610229
most beautiful thing i ever saw was my ex, showing me a picture of her smiling and holding her last ex's baby brother. i have never seen a more beautiful thing in my life than that woman cradling a baby in her arms.
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do any moids on here wanna get tied up win pretty pink ribbons and sucked off until theyre crying? Lowkey wanna suck a man off right now desu TVT
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what is it like having a mom who loves you and a dad who loves you and they take care of you and listen to you and try to help you become a good and healthy person while letting you decide what kind of person you want to be? how does it feel?
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>>32610750
texing yourself between two phones is a lame trick we all know about.
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>>32610758
If you're a cis woman. Yes please
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I'm running out of reasons not to take a vacation to Vietnam and fuck a bunch of prostitutes there.
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it always cracks me up that he thinks a shitty fucking text screenshot proves anything, as if that can't be faked in a billion ways
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>>32610736
At least he wasn't ENTJ
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>>32610763
mhm! :D
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>>32610758
that sounds pretty hot can you wear nothing but a choker while you do it?
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>>32610749
genuine post, but take from it whatever you need to anon. not tryna troll, just expressing my thoughts
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>>32610758
Fuck off, trannoid
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>>32610758
No thanks, not my thing
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>>32610748
Oh.
*glugluglugluglug*
Now we wait.
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>>32610760
f, i wish i knew. ive never met my dad and my mum gave me cptsd
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>>32610736
Is he the anon the Korra poster would spar with?
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>>32610760
We won.
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>>32610771
yes ;)
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>>32610765
Don't they still have lepers there?
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>>32610758
only if you'll put me in a collar and praise me (i have a praise kink something awful)
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>>32610788
good boy! ;)
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>>32610758
>sucked off until theyre crying?
y-you mean you won't stop for our refractory period?
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>>32610794
nope, no breaks for you! Unless you beg for it ;)
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>>32610788
i have two collars, so im going to wear one too
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>>32610771
>>32610788
duality of man
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>>32610760
I wouldn't know both my parents are overbearing and self-absorbed.
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>>32610769
I could go for a good mindbreaking rn
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>>32610790
i hope the average woman would be willing to play ball with my kinks.

get it? cuz of the pet play stuff? i don't even need to be made to cum, i just need a woman to drape me across her lap, pet me and tell me i'm a good boy and that i'm wanted ;_;
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>>32610761
you can text yourself, delete the duplicates, and change your contact name. he's fucked up and posted fake text messages with the duplicates before kek.
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>>32610802
cringe beta male
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>>32610802
a lot of them would be, you just have to find the right social circles of them ;)
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>>32610766
The power of love and friendship defeats the incel jew
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>>32610788
*pretends to throw tennis ball*
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>>32610795
But it gets so sensitive! I guess I'll have to beg, but what if that just encourages you?
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>>32610754
Maybe she liked him? Or was having a bad attitude
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>>32610802
i could not be trusted with a man like this.
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>>32610808
mm, gonna have to beg harder then ;)
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>>32610804
NTA but the more beta other men are the more alpha you'll be in comparison
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>>32610802
>pet play stuff?
Absolutrly no furfaggotry in my kink. I'm allergic.
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>>32610804
no your the cringe one. i want a cute boy i can pet and dress up as a dog and put a tail plug in his butt and then later in the night we do it doggy style
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>>32610245
>the people pleaser in me feels bad
That's understandable but you need to put yourself first here desu. Else it'll be a bleh time for both you and him. You got this anon, hope you feel better soon
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>>32610796
yeah! picking each other collars would be top tier couples activity
>>32610807
very funny anon, do i look like a dog, to you?
>>32610811
w-what do you mean?
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>>32610812
Fuck, I don't know if I could handle all of this
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have i finally found you? my zootopia gf?
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>>32610818
>later in the night we do it doggy style
w-whos being penetrated?
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Men can I put and ice cube on your pink nuts?
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>>32610830
Yes, but I'll probably squirm away pretty quickly
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>>32610822
>very funny anon, do i look like a dog, to you?
Yeh
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>>32610822
evil scientist inclinations. someone that easily influenced and appeased makes me want to see how far i can push him and train him. i don't really want to do that but i feel a grim compulsion at the idea of him being in my hands.
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>>32610574
>that's why we often go from one instantly rewarding activity to the next, instead of working in long term goals like studying and working out
My ADHD ass reading this at 5am while speedrunning vidya and getting drunk when I have to be up in 4 hours for shopping
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>>32610830
Sure, ngl sounds comfy like a cold shower
>>32610831
>reported for avatarfagging
I didn't repeatedly use the same character, unlike yourself kek
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>>32610818
>you're the cringe one
>proceeds to show me just how gay xir ideal boyfriend is
lmao
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>>32609264
>I've struggled with this and recently admitted to myself that I don't really want a guy. I've previously tried to justify it with things like cunnilingus and cuddling and lan parties but those are not really worth the trouble for me personally
A fwb can take care of all 3
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>>32610833
yeah, well. i'm glad you get the idea then :3
>>32610834
i mean as long as the praise is genuine and the pussy sour, you can train me however you want to , baby
>>
Women, do you like going on hikes?
Would you date someone very frugal going on dates that dont cost much like going on walks or sitting in a park?
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>>32610837
My post shares no affiliation with the pic rel, unfortunately yours does ever so violently. Bye bye
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>>32609576
Do you also hate cim?
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>>32610842
I have no idea what you're yapping about right now
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>>32610841
yes and yes. being financially responsible is so hot.
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>>32610830
Yes but not without notice and you must go into detail what you get out if it so I can get satisfaction in providing that to you. That applies to almost anything.
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>>32610844
Cum*
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>>32610830
No, fuck off
Also why are they pink
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>>32610850
>t. Saar
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>>32610852
I'm 100% European, but mine are white, not pink.
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>>32610845
Rip broke sexless nigger
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>>32610855
>thirdie thinks 10k saved up is a lot
holy shit the poverty is real
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>>32610841
Yea
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>>32610841
Yeah hiking is one of my favorite activities I am also poor
Frugal but not anxious about it is fine
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>>32610859
That’s how much over the Christmas period lol seethe and cope in europoorfag
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>>32610830
yes i already ice my balls regualrly
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>>32610840
Heel.
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pet play and then also weed makes me insanely horny, like if fed enough i'll just start cumming uncontrollably, so being force fed or otherwise forcibly intoxicated with it? would be lots of fun with the right person, too bad i never go outside
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>>32610828
bark for me! (we can take turns)
>>32610838
subby men arent gay
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Femanons, are you closer to being straight or being bi?
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>>32610867
Straight
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>>32610867
totally bi
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>>32610867
Bi
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>>32610867
Straight. Only ever liked men.
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>>32610867
More straight I think. I really like dicks.
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>>32610855
What am I looking at here
>>32610859
Tbf I have less than 1k in my bank account lol
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>>32610867
God I’m so glad to be born a guy
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>>32610862
Unless you bought a house cash, that's really not a lot of money.
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>>32610875
No one asked bro
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>>32610870
>>32610871
Gross
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>>32610880
Bi girls are based
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>>32610874
I thought I made fuck all money last month but as it turns out I went way overboard lol
>>32610877
Actually own a four bed room house I’m so glad you asked haha
>>32610878
Jealousy is a sin anon I’m pretty sure lol
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>>32610875
uhm good for you ig, do you want a sticker for that or something T^T?
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>>32610743
>It's not your fault anon, remember that
Who's fault could it be?
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>>32610882
>Actually own a four bed room house I’m so glad you asked haha
And you have that little set aside? lol
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>>32610881
No they are not
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>>32610882
Bro thinks he's Andrew Tate flaunting his pennies
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>>32610887
Are you the anon that got cucked by a lesbian/bi girl?
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>>32610886
if a real man knows that he's a man and considers that enough for him, then why would you- a self proclaimed "real man," feel the need to flaunt that?
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>>32610884
Hers for being a bitch
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>>32610881
NTA, but bisluts are sluts, whether they are men or women
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>>32610880
why?
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>>32610889
No but that's definitely one reason why they aren't based
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>>32610895
Why do you feel threatened by them?
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>>32610894
I want a woman who I know will be attracted to me and not her friends
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>>32610893
Most of the bi women ITT aren't promiscuous.
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>>32610897
thats such a dumb way of reasoning. If you're a straight man, do you find every girl you see on the street attractive? the delusion is absolutely insane here T^T
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>>32610897
>NTA
Boy, this is such a sad insecurity
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>>32610896
It's disgusting to go back and forth
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>>32610885
Unironically yes most of my money is tied up in investments and assets, by this time next month I will be broke again lmao
>>32610888
I learnt alot from him but I pulled out as soon as he went down the religion rabbithole, I am the least religious person you will ever meet I don’t need jewish cope to justify waking up in the morning
>>32610890
Do you even remember what love and having fun feels like?
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>>32610902
>>32610899
Do you just think with a bi gf you're getting a threesome?
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>>32610903
Why
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>>32610904
yes actually :), went out with my friends just yesterday :D
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>>32610904
>I learnt alot from him
From Andrew Tate?
>alot
Clearly not proper grammar, unfortunately...
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>>32610904
But he's a Muslim? Muslims are anti-jew
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>>32610906
No, I'm a one woman man
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>>32610909
>>32610907
Just the dynamics
I don't think she'll stay on side
Just idk
It's gross
Women here hate bi men and I think their reasons are valid
I'm reciprocating
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>>32610891
>Hers for being a bitch
Nah, man. It's not all that dramatic.
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>>32610898
Lol, you think they only have sex with you?
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>>32610897
just because im bi doesnt mean im non monogamous.
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>>32610915
Don't let insecurities rule you like that, anon. I'm not saying you should date a bi chick. But being triggered by the mere mention of them is weak.
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>>32610915
"women here hate bi men"

please cite your source in MLA format <3

also, using "idk" does not count as a reason. it simply makes you sound really fucking stupid :)
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>>32610918
Then there's definitely a part of you that you're shutting off
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>>32610915
Idk man, even though she ended up getting a gf after I still had a good time dating a bi girl
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>>32610917
Sounds like you've had a bad experience?
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>>32610923
why would you think that? i find men and women attractive yes, but im just like a normal person otherwise
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>>32610915
How very 2006 of you
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>>32610926
Nah, it was good, just don't think you're the only getting it. Bisluts are for everyone.
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>>32610922
https://www.glamour.com/story/glamour-sexuality-survey
>In a survey of over 1,000 women, 63% of women said they wouldn’t date a man who’s had sex with another man. (This isn’t just men who identify as bi. This includes all men who’ve experimented with another man, even if it only happened once!) Still, 47% of women said they've been attracted to another woman, and 31% of women have had a sexual experience with another woman.
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>>32610930
>Nah, it was good
You got cheated on and you think it was good?
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What should be my success rate be on Hinge when sending roses with well thought out messages? I'm a straight man sending to women and NBs
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>>32610922
>>32610931
f, i actually hate this. like yes im bias being bi myself, but i dont understand why so many women find it to be an ick
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>>32610931
>February 2016
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>>32610927
A relationship with a man isn't the same as a relationship with a woman
There's parts of you that's going to miss out on that that would be difficult for me to do because I'm not a woman
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>>32610915
>>32610931
Well actually, you said that women "here" hate bi men, implying that you meant ITT or 4chan as a whole. Perhaps you meant in your country? If that's the case you ought to have specified a bit more.
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>>32610931
>NTA
Based women, but a fashion mag isn't a substitute for an academic paper
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>>32610935
What you think it's changed?
There's a fucking fight here everytime a bi guy posts
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>>32610940
Sarge posts here all the time.
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>>32610940
I do think it's lower than 63% now yeah
I think 63% is lower than it was when I was in high school too.
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We should deport all the women from the planet.
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>>32610940
Oh shit! Is this Bianon?
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>>32610943
Looks like someone got rejected. thats rough for ya buddy
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>>32610932
It's not cheating if you don't establish a romantic relationship and simply keep it to pumping and dumping.
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>>32610937
theyre different sure, but that shouldnt come across as a threat to you
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>>32610945
I haven't been rejected since at least a year ago.
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>>32610939
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/15299716.2018.1563935
>Results indicated that heterosexual women rated bisexual men as less sexually and romantically attractive, less desirable to date and have sex with, and less masculine compared to straight men. No such differences were found for heterosexual and gay men’s ratings of female and male profiles, respectively.
Happy now?
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>>32610934
No, it's alright. I admit that most of us are annoying. Bi men are like the French people of sexual orientation.
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>>32610950
I'll take a look. Thanks.
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>>32610950
Nta
>224 women
>Rate 7 different men some of them bisexual
That's a shit study maybe the bi guys were just ugly
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>>32610952
>I admit that most of us are annoying. Bi men are like the French people of sexual orientation.
And so are bi women.
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>>32610943
That would be gay
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>>32610957
https://www.queermajority.com/essays-all/dating-double-standards
>A 2019 YouGov poll found only 28% of women expressed comfort with the idea of having a bi partner. Ironically, a survey by the online doctor-patient resource DrEd/ZAVA found that 34% of women were open to or had already had sex with another woman — but only 19% would date a bi person.
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>>32610959
No, they remind me more of Australians
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foids:
i sleep in a man sized dog bed. how much of an ick is this for you?
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>>32610963
Based women
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>>32610964
>Australians
Not sure which ones are worse
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>>32610946
>Bro got cucked by a lesbian
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>>32610963
This is just an article that cites the two studies you already posted that are shit
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>>32610967
Moot was a literal cuck, so that doesn't surprise me.
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>>32610964
funny that because i am australian lol
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Ladies, does my friends girlfriend want to fuck me?

I always see her looking at me, when it’s a group conversation she’s always looking for my eye contact. She’s made comments before that suggest she thinks I’m hot. Talking about MGK, she mentioned he wasn’t that good looking but his tattoos are sexy (I’m heavily tattooed) she’s also made multiple jokes where the punchline is me taking off my top (I’m a muscular guy, and she likes muscular men)

Twice recently she’s caught me staring at her breasts and yesterday caught me looking at her legs/hips/pussy while she was wearing tight bike shorts. Both times she’s caught me looking at her body she’s been smiling when I look her way.

Does she want to fuck me or is she just aroused by the idea of turning me on?
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>>32610968
>lesbian
Hey, we were talking about fucking /atoga/ bisluts, keep your imaginary narrative... straight.
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>>32610898
There's been several studies that show for sexual questions, men will report higher numbers of encounters and women will report lower number of encounters
However if they are told they'll be tested with a lie detector, the numbers of encounters given by men and women are virtually the same
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>>32610974
Cheers for being a sickcunt. Too many shitcunts ITT.
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>>32610971
Fine
Where's the evidence for the contrary?
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>>32610961
Only if you're a faggot, so I guess it would be for you
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>>32610975
>asks the same exact question without mentioning you have a gf this time
Anon I...
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>>32610974
Australian AND you want to put a collar on me and a tail plug in me? now be red headed and you've got yourself a deal
>>
manhood is realizing that women would burn the world down to mildly inconvenience you.
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>>32610980
You're the one invested in proving a point and failing at it dude
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>>32610977
That doesn't surprise me. I haven't noticed the bi women of atoga being more promiscuous than their straight counterparts.
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>>32610984
They do that for their own amusement, the fact that it inconveniences men is just an added bonus for them.
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>>32610981
I'm a faggot for wanting to fuck women?
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>>32610984
This is a misunderstanding we're just cold
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>>32610989
You're a faggot for assuming that if there were no women you'd just start fucking other men.
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>>32610990
Lies
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>>32610987
Higher sex drives in women correlate with bisexuality
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>>32610976
You implied a former paramour was muffdiving on the side
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I don't care for the Lgbtqrowd, they insist upon themselves.
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>>32610983
sorry, my hairs not red :( though i was thinking about getting it dyed one day
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>>32610991
No, I assumed you would ;)
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>>32610992
I only want to inconvenience men I have a reason to dislike those of you just minding your own business I'm polite to
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>>32610983
Ask if she says thoughever
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>>32610993
That's correct, but not necessarily applicable to the women in atoga
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>>32610994
>muffdiving
And dickriding. Do you feel cheated knowing that your regular hooker is fucking other people? Of course not.
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>>32610999
nah, fuck that, people always look better natural. even makeup looks like shit 95% of the time if i'm being honest
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>>32610979
>sickcunt
>shitcunt
I don't think they say either of those anymore?
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>>32610983
Imagine if that was Angela White
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>>32611001
Women dislike men in general though
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>>32611000
I'm sure you quite enjoyed imagining that, faggot.
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>>32611012
Lol, you're the own who doesn't like women.
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>>32611006
Her lover's strapon was probably bigger than your penis, anon!
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>>32611014
I like the idea of women, but the reality is a massive disappointment.
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>>32611014
One*
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>>32610972
>Moot was a literal cuck
Is 4chan a cuck website?
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>>32611006
Have no women been hypocrites in your personal experience? Or is this just theoretical?
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>>32611024
Bi* women.

For some reason my phone autocorrects bi to no
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>>32610965
Post picture related
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>>32611022
There are a lot of them here. /gif/ is almost unusable because of them.
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>>32611024
>>32611026
>no women
Well that's a fun way to call them
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>>32610959
Why'd you take such a long hiatus?
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>>32611022
was he actually a cuck? in what way? i know he used to play cuck audio on some boards
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>>32611033
>hiatus
Who's that?
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>>32611034
He got cucked by some woman from xojane, and he basically got trolled off the site for it.
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>>32611036
That's his codeword for penis
>>
Women
If I trade you a rare pokemon card would you go on a date with me?
>>
Femanons
>Guy who drink's whiskey at home
>Guy who drink's whiskey at a whiskey bar
Which one is better?
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>>32611045
i used to love pokemon cards but not i realise collecting them is a bit pointless
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>>32611045
Yes. :D
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>>32611038
Should've stayed a volcel.
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>>32611048
Everything is pointless on the extreme long term
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>>32611048
Its just nice to get ones with your favorite pokemon on em especially if they're fullart
>>32611053
I'll take you on the best date I swear, what pokemon do you like?
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>>32610983
faggot
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>>32611068
psychic and fairy types :)
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>>32611011
I don't dislike some random guy I've never met before unless he does something annoying or shitty when I complain about "men" I'm complaining about experiences I've had with men in the past not about literally every man.
>>
I think I got food poisoning :(
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>>32611072
die mad about it you silly goose, its a little thing i like to call YOLO
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>>32611047
Some femanons ITT are racist against whiskey drinkers for some reason
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>>32611084
So true
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>>32611080
Norovirus is also going around
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women whats it like being stretched?
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>>32611047
Home, cheaper
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>>32611075
Based those are my favorites too
That complicates things though I don't know if I have any of those types I'm willing to part with....
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>>32611096
samee! it makes trading so difficult :(
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Women, I don't drink alcohol, is this a deal breaker?
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>>32611078
I simply don't believe you. Women hate men.
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>>32611098
no, not at all, i'd actually prefer that my bf not drink
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I don't know what to do. I can't even motivate myself to play a video game or jerk off.
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>>32611101
I am overall disappointed with "men" but if you pick "a man" at random odds are I do not hate him.
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>>32611103
that sucks, have you tried taking a walk outside or anythign of the sort?
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>>32611104
I just don't believe you. Life has shown me repeatedly that women hate men.
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women is your husband allowed to peep on you in the shower?
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>>32611105
I live in a city in the mountains and it's cold as shit outside, so there isn't really anywhere to walk that would help.
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>>32611109
mmm, well if walking isnt really a good option, try at least cleaning up your room and opening the curtains, natural light definetly helps (for me at least)
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>>32611111
It's the middle of the night and I'm a neat freak so my room is always clean. I do have some laundry that I should fold, I guess.
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>>32611107
beta male question, beta male thought process
what kind of faggot "peeps" on his own fucking wife lmao
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>>32611112
great! getting some laundry done could make ya feel a little more productive :)
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>>32611103
It’s time to combine them both and jerk off while playing a video game (eroge)
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>>32611113
>still using the words "beta male" in 2025
hah, get a load of this guy
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>>32611097
Right? Like I really want my favorite mons but instead I pull gold Lugia
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>>32611119
>"p-pwease maam may i h-h-have a widdle p-p-peek at yuo n-naked b-body??"
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>>32611121
yess!
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>>32611122
erm what the sigma
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The Anon Situation is INSANE
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>>32610982
What in the schizo
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>>32611103
i will jerk you off
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Please help
>>32610695
>>
What should a woman do to get over a man?
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>>32611135
He needs help getting a white gf, didnt you read?
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>>32611136
im still not over him.. hookups and new partners didnt help
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>>32611136
listen to music, go out with friends, and move on to the next. if he wasnt for you then theres nothing to be done about it, plenty of others :)
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https://files.catbox.moe/3stocm.mp4

who was in the wrong here?
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Thread is so slow tonight. Can someone at least larp as a femanon?
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>>32611134
I'm not gay
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>>32611135
how come people ask these really bland questions without saying what they've done and where they're coming short of their goals. It's almost like it's all just bait
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>>32611142
She was. Fuck off with your dumb social media garbage.
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>>32611142
Viruse
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>>32610758
Ew, no.
Go to /soc/ and take the hornyposters with you, please.
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I scrubbed my balls like crazy today, and it actually smells pretty nice, not gonna lie
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>>32611138
>>32611140

It fucking sucks.
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Personally, i hate anons who complain about horny posting
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>>32611144
helo i am prety lady for u xD
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>>32611152
/soc/ is a great place to avoid them
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>>32611154
My life, my rules.
My style, my attitude.
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>>32611154
>>32611157
Love me or hate me, i don't care.
But don't play with mee...
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i want gojo so bad its not even funny, like id let him do whatever he wanted with me fr
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>>32610831
>>32610827
Looks like both of you were avatroons
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>>32611135
Take aspirin until your eyes turn blue.
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>>32611163
Who are you replying to?
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Indian women are hot
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Black women are hot
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Indonesian women are hot
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>>32611165
To those two guys who were banished
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State gender and a controversial opinion of yours.
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Women are hot
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>>32611173
Multiculturalism is identical to invasive species.
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>>32611173
M
Most women are nice, and do care about men's issues
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>>32611174
>>32611171
>>32611170
>>32611167
Lies
>>32611179
More lies
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>>32611177
M
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>>32611173
F
Kinks and fetishes are retarded. Just have passionate sex without beating each other up or whatever.
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>>32611183
>F
Wooah, a girl. Cool.
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>>32611173
F, there is nothing wrong with not being clingy to your s/o, you dont have to be texting each other every other hour baka
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>>32611136
Regrettable haircut, ice cream, convince yourself you hate him
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>>32611186
???
There's plenty of girls in these threads. How is my presence anything special?
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>>32611188
>Make yourself uglier, make yourself uglier, cope with a lie
The absolute state of foids.
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>>32611173
M
Eugenics is good and progresses human evolution
Ugly people not breeding leads to better looking humans
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>>32611198
Women have never had any interest in real solutions to problems
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How do I stop being jealous and start being happy for other people?
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>>32611199
>Ugly people not breeding leads to better looking humans
Funnily enough, this fact makes both misandrists and misogynists seethe, despite their alleged adversity. In the end, they're ugly people coping by hating the opposite sex.
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>>32611173
F
Degredation kinks are overrated, praise is 100 percent better
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>>32611209
>praise kink
You're just a normal human who likes to feel appreciated.
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>>32611198
>make yourself uglier with strange haircut choice
It grows, or you can change it to something that actually looks good after. Pulling a Britney is an emotional reset. >make yourself uglier with ice cream
skill issue, skip dinner have the ben & jerry's.
>cope with a lie
That's life anon. I don't have confidence in myself because I think I deserve it I have it because I've spent a lot of time deluding myself into believing I do lol.
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>>32611201
It's not a real problem you wait and you get over it eventually but in the immediate aftermath why not throw a couple of self soothers at it
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>>32611209
f, good girl
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Where can one find reasonable women?
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>>32611219
>reasonable women
Oxymoron, such a thing cannot exist
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>>32611218
:D mhm!
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>>32611221
There must be at least one, somewhere out there.
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>>32611219
/atoga/
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>>32611227
Nta. Where irl are you most likely to meet women who browse /atoga/?
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>>32611229
nta, I love in Australia. so does mabel
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>>32611233
>I love in Australia
Wow, I didn't know Aussies were such Chads.
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>>32611240
>>32611240
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>>32611236
>< you know what I meant! but yes all my loving is done here



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