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Motivation Episode
Last Episode: >>32609090
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>>32611240
First for Asuka is best girl.
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M or F
Is this true?
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>>32611250
F, yeah lowkey
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>>32611250
F
Pretty much, yeah.
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Women, is this accurate?
What's it missing?
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>>32611256
accurate, i usually keep my shirt on if nothing else though
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>>32611256
I personally don't take off my bra before going to bed, but that's because my breasts are small enough for me to not need a wired one. Also, I don't sleep in my underwear, but wearing a comfy pair of pants and shirt.
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>>32611263
>my breasts are small enough for me to not need a wired one
Why wear a bra at all then?
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>>32611263
same here
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>>32611256
my cats not pictured
>>32611258
for me it's the other way around
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>>32611266
I don't want my nipples to show, and, despite being small, my breasts would still jiggle a bit without a bra. So, modesty concerns.
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>>32611270
>my breasts would still jiggle a bit without a bra
small boobs that still have jiggle in them are hot as fuck
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>>32611240
>atoga.jpg
Why does he always change the filename?
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>>32611272
Autism, probably
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At what point does sex stop being vanilla?
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>>32611272
I like being organized
>>32611274
I concur
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A question for boys and girls.
Do you pee while taking a shower?
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>>32611275
depends on who you ask but for me its when >>32611275
he does anything outside of being gentle and praise. (F), i a really vanilla person though
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>>32611277
Don't worry, you're my favorite /atoga/ OP. No faggy rules, no FAQ, just nice pics.
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>>32611277
>>32611256
>>32611250
Is that you as well?
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>>32611275
when it becomes something that you can't challenge or abstain from.
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>>32611279
F, yes
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>>32611279
f, yes
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>>32611279
F
No.
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Femanons, do you like sitting on a man's lap naked while he slowly strokes your arm like a cat?
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>>32611250
Male
No, if I say I want someone to love me I get told either to stop being entitled, or to stop wanting it and then it will come to me
I've seen lots of girls pull the same thing when some guys are into them but they want a different guy so that part rings true to a point, I don't know what the guys are like though so idk if they're right to ignore them or not
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Men, do you self-lubricate from the ass with enough stimulation?
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>>32611279
M, yes. It's going down a fucking drain. As long as you aren't pissing on your body or feet this shouldn't be an issue.
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>>32611290
not really desu
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>>32611282
>nice pics
Eh, I think it's the same anon that often posts wojak garbage.
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>>32611292
Not exactly, but if you repeatedly push something up there eventually it'll get coated in the stuff that's up there so you can make a bit of progress slowly
Usually though I just spit on anything I'm putting up there, or rarely I'll use actual lube
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>>32611279
F
If necessary, but generally I pee right before getting in the shower so it's not an issue
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>>32611279
M
Yes, but I will follow it with some soap ASAP

>>32611286
>>32611288
Based
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>>32611299
So hypothetically speaking, if you had steamy sex with a guy and you were getting penetrated, would you not automatically self lubricate? Like I'm talking about your body secreting oils and lubricants in the rectum.
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>>32611292
Not how it works, so no.
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>>32611303
Like I said there's naturally like some kinda mucus coating the insides up there but it doesn't increase with stimulation. So if a cute guy was penetrating me from behind it would be a bit of a challenge without some kind of external lubricant. It could still be done though
Imo the more efficient and fun way would be to stimulate his penis until it's leaking precum, and use that as lubricant
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>>32611286
>>32611288
That’s hot
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why are zoomers girl so allergic to showing some skin? I'm going on dates with this 22 y/o ( I'm 30) and she always wears a baggy shirt, jeans and Dr Martens. She has a pretty face and pretty long blonde hair but would it really be that hard not to dress like a drug dealer from the 90s? It is what is but why not show some femininty. What gives?
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>>32611308
because if we do show skin we get labeled as sluts and told that we're "asking for it," its also likely a personal style choice.
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Is the world colder to you as a man then it would be if you were a woman?

There's times I feel like this as a 6'2" 24 year old man who does Judo and boxing, almost like I'm either invisible or seen as a danger by default

Do femanons agree with this take?
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>>32611308
Can’t wait til women start wearing nuns habits or burkas
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>>32611308
>she always wears a baggy shirt, jeans and Dr Martens
This is also affecting the selection of clothes at stores. You don't know how hard it is nowadays for a thin woman to find a well-fitting shirt. Even XS blouses are wide on me.
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>>32611309
right but would you wear that when going on dates with a guy? isn't that seen as low key insulting like putting no effort in to appear feminine? or is that just a generation gap thing


>>32611311
yeah we're halfway there
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>>32611306
Ah that makes sense.
>>32611308
Maybe because baggy clothes are comfy and make me feel fuzzy and protected against le elements.

Also anon it's January, unless you live in the south, it's not skin-showing season right now.
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>>32611311
>burkas
This reminds me of a theory of mine: The reason why so many feminists support Islam is because if every woman were to wear a burka, they'd no longer have to feel jealous of prettier girls. Plus, most women would stop caring about their appearance at all, since no one sees them anyway. There's a reason why most muslim women, especially the veiled ones, are chubby and ill-groomed.
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>>32611313
i feel like youre just mad that you dont see tits. its likely a generation gap thing and if her dressing modestly makes you uncomfortable you shouldnt be seeing her.
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Girls: How old are you and how much of an age gap would you be fine with? i.e max amount older for you boyfriend is 5 years or 10 years or something etc
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>>32611317
18
7 years
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>>32611317
im 24, id be fine with a 5 year age gap max.
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>>32611310
I can't find it right now but there is a longpost from a transman on Tumblr about how cold and isolating being a man is. It's the most empathy I've seen anyone feel for men and I tear up almost every time I read it because it's so true, and I wish it wasn't. I've seen other transmen say the same sentiment afterwards too. It's hard to put into words how isolating it is and how different it can be from isolation as a woman. As a woman you can get a lot of attention but most of it is likely not attention you want. As a man, you get none, screaming into the void, as if you're in a vacuum
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>>32611282
Thanks, I appreciate it
>>32611297
The last "wojak" I posted was the wojak marrying the femcel with her hands tied up
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>>32611320
nta but thats a pretty small gap for your age.
there a particular reason?
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>>32611240
I'm an oldfag, m. Just started dating after divorce. Have dated chicks from 25 to 45 and hung out with a ton more from a wide range of socioeconomic and cultural background. All that any of them care about or talk about is sex.... Is this the norm. It's making me check out of dating
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>>32611319
Shit, coming up on 25, this will be my last chance to date an 18 year old!

So, tell me about yourself femanon? I write stories for a living
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Girls and Boys
Do you like big crowds?
Why or why not?
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>>32611316
it doesn't make me uncomfortable it just made me feel a little insulted at first as if she was sending subliminal hints that she didn't care to dress up a little. she can wear what she wants obviously it just odd to me that you would hide your beauty ( and she is beautiful) going on dates dressing like a boy

>>32611314
I live in yurop but point taken. it's pretty chilly atm
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>>32611327
M
Completely indifferent about crowds
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>>32611327
Boy
No I get so anxious in them. I will go home if there's a crowd in a store or something
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>>32611323
Just a preference
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>>32611327
F
No, they're too loud and cramped. I hate that.
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>>32611326
It's not your last chance bro, I was still seeing some when I was 27. It was mostly because they were coomers and wanted some FWB fun but that suited me fine.
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>>32611328
thats just her preference. literally talk to her about it if it bothers you that much
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>>32611327
F, not a huge fan, too many people
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>>32611334
nah, I'm not trying to manipulate her out of her preferences. maybe she dresses modestly because she doesn't want the attention to be on her body. idk it's her choice and not my place to comment. I was just wondering because it's a new thing to me
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where to find a girl? What do women do besides studying/working?
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>>32611250
M, sometimes
>>32611279
duh
>>32611292
not how that works
>>32611327
no, too loud
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>>32611338
>What do women do besides studying/working?
Shitpost.
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hello this dating spreadsheetanon from about month ago. idk if anyone remembers me posting on here but I'm back for a journal entry and need some advice if anyone cares to listen
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>>32611342
shoot
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>>32611308
Salty millenial whining that he doesn't get to see tits. It's just a style thing bro you're so out of touch
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>>32611342
You had the spreadsheet where you gave scores to guys based on jobs and height and stuff right
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>>32611272
attentionwhoring
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Women, thank you for cleavage.
That is all.
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>>32611250
M
Yes, unequivocally
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>>32611317
27, 5 years younger, 2 years older
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>>32611367
There's some kind of trauma story isn't there
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>>32611279
M
No, this violates the golden rule.
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>>32611327
f, no I'm autistic and have social anxiety
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>>32611370
How can i meet you????WHERE??
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>>32611368
umm yes, what gave it away?
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I saw this beautiful couple the other day. like movie star beautiful. guy was tall with the face of a nazi statue and the girl petite with blonde hair and perfect features really. I was legitimately awed and since then I've felt this deep pit in my stomach

is it jealousy? I'm happy for them tbf and don't feel angry just dread. maybe more a feeling of unworthiness
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>>32611376
why do you want an autistic girlfriend
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>>32611279
Wow /atoga/ is full of subhuman degenerates and looks like the place you wouldn't get human advice from

btw M, no
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>>32611384
>autistic girlfriend
What is this in practice?
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>>32611380
I was at a restaurant and saw a very pretty girl dining with this really fat basement dweller type once. The full neckbeard, shitty pony tail etc. and it was definitely a date.
All I could think was "how?" and "if this guy can do it, why can't it?"

Seeing shit like that gets to you.
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>>32611256
Pissing in the shower apparently
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>>32611389
Could've easily been an escort
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>>32611389
huh I wonder wich situation of the two is worse. I think yours in a sense. it's like ecountering someone who won the lottery so you keep on gambling despite being dead broke

mean was more a feeling of existential dread I think. like there are actually couples out there like that. eating, kissing, sleeping together. man
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>>32611391
Yeah she probably paid the fattie since he was out of her league
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>>32611394
offtopic
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>>32611395
not really, im asking anyone m or f that knows the how
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>>32611394
Anon, please get some therapy, or go to church.
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>>32611399
oh yea sure therapy and church will cure my incurable illness that makes me be in pain 24/7
it has been 15 years man, im tired
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>>32611338
Naziism seems to be a bit of an ick to most women
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>>32611394
M
This is insulting to ask, as if people here are desperate enough to outcompete you by making you kill yourself. Then again I don't visit regularly so maybe that's how the shower-pissers herebare. Anyhow u r not relevant enough to have effort wasted on giving you suicide advice, work on your grandiose drama narcissism
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>>32611310
Canon Samus needs to go back to being 6'3"
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>>32611386
umm kind but bad sensory and social issues. struggles going out and only has 2 friends
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>>32611401
yea...but if you are gigachad....
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>>32611400
Do the meds not help much?
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>>32611404
Thats only pluses
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>>32611310
>>32611321

only a small % of men are given the amount of automatic affection and adoration and (unwanted) sexual attention that the average women gets. that's just how it is

with women it's not all peaches and roses too by the way. that constant attention only lasts through their reprodutive phase. once they're older the world becomes a lot colder to them as well. difference being is that they have more social connections to fall back on

I always use this example.a couple in my social group broke up. the girl was constantly cared for by her friends. sleepovers, helping with chores, dragging her out of the house. they guy got the occasional 'yo what's up bro' thing from his friends and that was that
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>>32611256
>doesn't take off her panties as well
cringe
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M
Yes because I’m biologically wired to only be turned on by someone visually hot
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>>32611352
Yes that's me.
Ended up meeting three of them irl. The rest are on pause because it's too hard to maintain conversations with that many people and arrange times to meet them. The ones I met are all engineers. One is in finance, one software and one civil. So far I've rejected the finance dude because although he is rich, I found him to be a bit desperate and too intellectual. He is begging for a second date though so maybe I will give it another chance... Civil engineer was very nice and cute but timid. Software I'm obsessed with. He's arranged a second date but takes up to 8 hours to respond to my messages, so I match the time in my responses. Do men do this intentionally to show that they are not desperate? Or is it a sign he's not that interested? Or is he just busy? I don't mind the response time but also don't like feeling like second choice.
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>>32611421
>but also don't like feeling like second choice.
If he's your favorite then yes you do.
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>>32611421
Personally I will usually not respond to personal stuff until after work. Maybe that's what he's doing too?
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>>32611308
Modesty is a good thing. Kys, coomer
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>>32611409
Not that anon but I'm noticing that this is no longer the case. Pharmacopers and corps pushed this stuff so hard they are all experiencing burnouts. Antidepressants and anything for focus or energy is being heavily abused. Too little and they panic, too much and they treat that as normal and continue to overindulge until their thresholds for resistance increases.
Painkillers for a headache is one thing to the rest of us. Maybe once a week for a headache, or something minor. These guys take them HOURLY and then wonder why they have stomach ulcers.
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>>32611410
mm, maybe not when I'm having meltdowns
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>>32611421
how can he be too intellectual? I've picked op women debating about who's the best wagner interpreter solti or karajan ( it's solti) despite them not knowing a single note. playing some violin for them etc. it's more about the dilevery and lack of shame than the topic itself I think
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>>32611421
>she likes the guy who pays her the least attention
Please keep us posted on your exploits. I have a feeling this is going to be hilarious.

Also,
>but also don't like feeling like second choice.
You're the one who is literally ranking men on a spreadsheet.
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>>32611416
Yep
What's extra frustrating to me about it though as a man is that other men perpetuate this cycle. I do my best to treat my guy friends with this same care that women get but there's no effort to return it and they just take it for granted. Men typically don't care about support fron other men
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>>32611421
How many dates do you like to go on before sleeping with someone?
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>>32611279
M
piss doesn't belong in the grey water
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>>32611310
>>32611326
without a doubt one of the most obnoxious, faggot posters in these threads.
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>>32611436
>You're the one who is literally ranking men on a spreadsheet.
NTA. But women are the choosers. It sucks, but that's how it is.
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>>32611437
men dig their own graves that way. I know toxic masculinity is a very loaded phrase but this to me is a very destructive aspect of modern masculinity. a lack of healthy competitiveness and support
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>>32611440
He's not so bad
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I noticed that when I meet new people I end up talking about myself most of the time. I have zero urge to ask them about themselves.
How do I become interested in others?
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>>32611437
because society requires men who can take shit, and men need to know that their friends and brothers can take shit
clueless retarded faggots who think men need to socialize more like girls and all their problems will vanish are fucking embarrassing.
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>>32611427
how are you gonna call me a coomer when I'm fucking her? it just threw me off a little
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>>32611442
Choosing is one thing. Being that ruthless about it is another. She's minmaxing relationships.
It's her right to do it, of course. But it's a bit silly to complain about feeling like the "second choice" while simultaneously dating multiple men and filling out a spreadsheet.
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>>32611448
terrible mindset. this is the reason young men commit 4x more suicide than women. are the vast majority of homeles people and people with addiction issues etc etc etc

during the middle ages at the even before a battle men would often cry together. yet in the morning they still went to war and risked everything. brotherhood and support have always been an innate part of the masculine experience
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>>32611452
>before a battle men would often cry together.
What gender studies journal did you pull this one from?
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>>32611450
It is a bit blackpilling, ngl.
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>>32611424
You may be right, the fact that he is not desperate for me is a turn on unfortunately. My date with him was my favorite. We didn't run out of things to talk about for hours, he genuinely laughed at my jokes, took me to a nice restaurant, gave me compliments and said he'd like to see me again. He also has cool interests and a nice smile.
>>32611425
I'm thinking he just has a life and hobbies that he needs to attend to...
>>32611432
Just a massive turn off for a guy to be dropping sociology and philosophy terms on a first date. I don't know what they mean and it doesn't mean I'm stupid. It's not conducive to a back and forth conversation and feels more like a showing-off-my-superiority competition.
>>32611436
I sure will keep you posted, my life feels like one big shitpost sometimes
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>>32611454
bard stories. medieval court culture was all about the refined emotions of men. women were seen as the less emotionally refined gender. your idea of masculinity is a victorian construct
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>>32611456
How would you rate your looks?
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>>32611438
Haven't even thought of sleeping with these guys, I'm afraid. I have no idea of a number. Would prefer to be boyfriend and girlfriend before sleeping with them at all.
>>32611450
Spreadsheet was moreso to help me make rational decisions about who I invest my time in meeting irl and accepting conversations with online, since I'm often catastrophically swayed my emotions. I also have a lot of trouble rejecting people and sometimes go on dates because I feel bad or just want to be nice.
>>32611455
Sorry! If it makes you feel better I've spent thousands of dollars of cosmetic procedures to increase my value in the dating market
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>>32611452
>this is the reason young men...
No, it isn't. The reason this happens to men is because they have zero meaning or autonomy in their modern lives.
>brotherhood and support
Which comes from being in shit situations with each other, being unified in a common goal, not having group therapy sessions with your boyfriends. You're obviously a giddy little simp who still has the "women are wonderful" effect etched into his faggot brain, but if you seriously think looking towards female socialization and friendship for solutions is actually a good idea, you are literally retarded.
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>>32611447
M
Find people that talk about themselves a bit more than they ask about you
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>>32611458
flamboyant french sissies loved to cry, norsemen were expected never to do so.
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>>32611443
I agree, but I don't know how to break the cycle at this point. I wish I was born in a different reality where people were more supportive to both genders
>>32611448
What is your definition of socializing like girls? Any amount of support?
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>>32611463
I'm not talking about group therapy session tho. I'm talking about taking your bro out when he's struggeling and hitting the town. Showing support in masculine ways. If he wants to open up that's good and you listen, if he doesn't that's good too but you've shown brotherhood in that moment
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>>32611462
>Sorry!
There's no need to be. I just wish nature was a bit less harsh.
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Hey remember when I asked about how do people decide what to do next? I ended up deciding to sleep on the floor for like 4 hours, my life is an absolute wreck lmfao.
I don't know if I should just build my bed or grab some coffee and just start doing work (its 5am here)
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>>32611460
Body 9/10 (gym for years and fake bewbs), face 6.5/10 no makeup, solid 8/10 makeup. Trying to be objective, I am very hard on myself and have low self esteem
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>>32611466
>norsemen were expected never to do so.
I think that movie was underrated
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>>32611471
Appreciate your honest assessment
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>>32611466
yet the norse immediately assimilated into normans when they were exposed to french culture. funny how that works. there's nothing wrong with masculine crying
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Follow up question from evil spreadsheet bitchanon, what would you love to see a girl wear on the first date?
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>>32611471
>gym bunny
>fake tits
>rates herself this highly but claims to have low self esteem
Fucking bimbo cunt
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>>32611443
the problem isn't "too much masculinity" and "men are too stupid to see they're destroying themselves!!!!", it's that we live in an unnatural, atomized society.
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>>32611478
I don't give a shit as long as it's not anything that draws too much attention to herself, like being practically naked or wearing some stupid high fashion shit.
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>>32611462
I'm mostly just poking fun at you.
The only thing I actually take issue with is the "second choice" bit. That's the way of dating that you're setting yourself up for.
It's very reasonable to have this sort of structure to hedge against the risks you know about yourself. That part is fine. But I don't think any of these guys would be thrilled to know the details, and some of them might consider it a dealbreaker in itself.

>I also have a lot of trouble rejecting people and sometimes go on dates because I feel bad or just want to be nice.
Please don't do this. This helps nobody besides those who would take advantage of you.
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>>32611479
She's going to get taken on an expensive date while your incel ass in at home jerking off
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>>32611416
>>32611437
>>32611443
Men and women are not the same, and pretending they are is stupid.
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>>32611479
Hehe
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>>32611478
Depends more on the destination than anything
Personally I love casual clothes, they make me feel at ease and I think girls are very pretty when they look comfy
I am not a normal guy though
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>>32611480
both can be true. it's never a matter of 'too much masculinity' but masculinity channeled into restrictive forms. I'm not saying you should go cry to your friends when you flunk an exam, but keeping yourself trapped in pseudo-stoic solitude is terrible too. escpecially in an atomized society
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>>32611484
I probably make more money than most of the guys she's going on about, and I quit jerking off months ago.
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>>32611485
That has nothing to do with what we said
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>>32611477
yeah literally every norseman settled in northern neustria bro great argument
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>>32611478
>evil spreadsheet bitchanon
Nobody said that, they even said you didn't need to be apologetic, and that's it's your right to be choosy
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>>32611492
You're complaining because men don't behave the same way women do and acting like that's a problem. It's not. Men don't want their friends to treat them like women's friends do. They don't want to sit around and piss and moan about their problems, because it doesn't help them.
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>>32611490
"masculine" and "feminine" require "restrictive" norms. This boomer mindset of "just b urself cast off all societal restrictions" is the opposite of good advice - you should be able to see what kind of society that bought about,
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>>32611491
>I quit jerking off months ago.
Congrats on that at least.
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>>32611497
literally this. The entire discussion just stems from "wow... men sure are stupid, all their problems would vanish if they behaved more like us!"
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>>32611493
that's not what I said tho. I said those that were exposed to french culture assimilated quickly
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>>32611478
What do you do for work, femanon?
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>>32611478
Something modest and comfortable for her. But more generally, I'd want her to wear what comes to mind for her--not to impress me, but what she'd want to show a date.

Clothes don't do much for me in themselves, but they can tell me at a glance if I'm not going to get along with a woman. If she goes for exactly the style I like, great. If she shows up in a "sexy" outfit and heavy makeup, she's not the kind of woman I'm looking for, and neither am I the kind of guy best for her.
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>>32611481
Okay noted - I've been making an effort to not show too much boob or leg.
>>32611483
I would never let any of these guys that I am dating/meeting multiple guys at the same time. I would never tell a guy about my dating history in detail. It's not cute and I find it disrespectful. Finance bro told me the full breakdown of all his exes, names, jobs and all.
>>32611489
I see, so not uncomfortable or trying to hard.
>>32611491
I hope you find someone who loves you and makes you happy if that's what you're looking for
>>32611495
Thanks for your kindness
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>>32611477
>there's nothing wrong with masculine crying
NTA. It's not morally wrong imo, but it's such a massive turn off for women that I'd never advocate a straight guy doing it unless in private.
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>>32611497
I'm a man you fucking ignoramus I was talking about supporting my male friends, that doesn't mean sitting around and pissing and moaning that means being there for them and spending time with them doing stuff they like and focusing on them even if they don't want to talk about the issues. And sometimes they do want to talk about them, and I'm there for that too. You have such a binary way of thinking and that rigidity is what's driving the male suicide rate to skyrocket
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>>32611471
>breast implants
>low self-esteem
Iconic duo strikes again
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>>32611498
the cultural failure of our society is multifaceted. some social cohesion should be enforced to maintain a stable society, but that doesn't mean we can't question wider gender roles ( which are extremely fluid by the way — I refer back to french medieval court culture, greeks and romans. who all had a strong and sensitive idea of masculinity. well the romans less so during the republic era but I digress)
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>>32611516
>I want strong social cohesion for a stable society
>I also want to undermine these underpinnings constantly and chip away at them
You can't have both
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>>32611505
Something healthcare related. I make about 180k a year. Would be nice if a guy made the same or more but not essential. I am also mid 20s so don't expect guys under thirty to be there yet. I work hard and I'm blessed with my job!
>>32611515
They did resolve it like 10%
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>>32611516
>which are extremely fluid by the way — I refer back to french medieval court culture, greeks and romans.
society's maladaptions aren't universal truth adaptations
thx for reminding me 99.99% of internet discussions are abysmal dogshit. time to quit kekchan for another few days until I'm amnesiac again
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>>32611509
>I see, so not uncomfortable or trying to hard.
Yeah, that's what I like on a first date, just be comfortable and be yourself. Of course that's assuming you aren't going to a fancy restaurant or something. If you're just going to a movie or on a walk then yes comfort is best
Okay I've helped you now plz help me get a gf
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>>32611509
What did you order on your date with software Chad?
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>>32611507
Interesting point about the heavy makeup. From a mans perspective, what constitutes that? Bright lipstick? Or heavy face makeup? Civil engineer dude took me swimming on the first date so had to use the tactical waterproof shit (only half joking)
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>>32611240
Lots of terrible people have friends, accolades, and stuff. If I know I'm a bad person, why shouldn't I feel bad?
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>>32611525
Damn, doc.
>so don't expect guys under thirty to be there yet.
Most guys will never make that amount of money at any point in their lives
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>>32611519
I think we as menhave the strength to redefine ourselves and reclaim our masculinity wihout it having to be as restrictive as before. would you call alexander the great weak for crying publicy and mourning his best friend? grant when he cried over lincon's body? napoleon? all great men had deep and emotional brotherhood bonds with fellow men
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>>32611525
>Barbie doctor
That's pretty hot 2bh
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>>32611530
How can I help anon? If you want my brutal advice go gym, get money, take care of your teeth, get good dating profile pictures that make you look like you have friends
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>>32611513
Focusing on yourself and your problems makes you depressed. You solve your problems and improve your mood and outlook by actually getting things done and solving your problems. What's driving male suicides is that it feels like society has largely left men behind. Women get priority in most things, even if it's only in subtle ways, and the men of today will almost certainly end up making less money, being less successful with relationships, having less friends, and having less children than their fathers and grandfathers did. These things together lead a lot of men to feel like their life has no purpose, and that drives up suicide rates.

Yes, it's a good thing for men to have friends and for them to do stuff with their friends, but when the stuff they're doing is sitting around and commiserating or trying to have group therapy sessions, that's not necessarily the case.
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>>32611526
maladaptions? your idea of masculinity is a vicotrian construct. it's not some innate part of us as men in an existential sense
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>>32611509
Have you heard of Female Dating Strategy over on reddit?
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>>32611540
>get good dating profile pictures that make you look like you have friends
Is this what I've been missing this whole time
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>>32611538
Crying because your friend and President had the back of his head blown open by an assassin is not the same as weeping and wailing because you got rejected when you asked a girl out, or because you had an argument with your gf.
Men have been this way for millennia, and leaving aside the lack of benefit from changing it, what makes you think we could even do so without it being detrimental to men and to society?
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>Tara Babcock found /atoga/
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>>32611533
Oh gosh I was so enamoured I didn't even pay attention to the menu. It was a seafood restaurant so they brought out mussels, oysters, sashimi etc. Could barley eat from the nervousness though *-*
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>>32611534
> From a mans perspective, what constitutes that?
Men's opinions vary wildly. And most of the men who have issues with heavy makeup (to the point of weighing it against you) would probably have issues with breast implants, too.
Personally, if I can tell she's wearing makeup, it's too much. Lots of foundation, bright lipstick, weird patterns/colors of eyeshadow, etc.

>Civil engineer dude took me swimming on the first date
He's guaranteed to think very differently from me, then. Don't worry about it. Even if he did think like me, that's not a reason to beat yourself up over expressing yourself in a way that makes you feel comfortable. It's how you meet someone who resonates with you.
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>>32611552
I hope he took care of the bill like a gentleman.
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>>32611549
alexander the great mourned for months and constructed monuments when hephaestion died

we're mostly in agreement tho. I'm not advocating for weakness, I'm advocating for more sensitve and supportive brotherhood ties between men. like the great men of old
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>>32611547
I have not I will check it out
>>32611548
I will not even match with a guy who doesn't have a group picture, even if everything else about him is perfect. Even a family picture is fine
>>32611551
I'm a stealth bimbo ;)
>>32611553
Ha yeah haven't had the implant conversation with anyone yet. I do feel like too much makeup on the first date is counterproductive. I also have no makeup pictures on my dating profile so they can see the real me lol
>>32611555
Of course!
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>>32611538
You are thinking way too deeply about something that doesn't matter at all.
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>>32611555
OP probably makes more than he does unless she's in the bay area or something.
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>>32611556
>DDD or bigger
Anon, we have a 34I boob queen ITT
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>>32611557
You're a moron, anon, and I'm not going to continue to entertain your moronic "arguments".
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>>32611558
>I have not I will check it out
Don't listen to them unless you want to sabotage your relationships with everyone but sociopaths.
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>>32611509
>I hope you find someone who loves you and makes you happy
Why say things you don't mean? You don't give a shit about me.
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>>32611559
I care about my fellow men. sometimes it pains me to see our current state compared to what we were before and we shaped the world
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>>32611560
>OP probably makes more than he does
It doesn't matter. She should be treated like a lady
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>>32611558
>I will not even match with a guy who doesn't have a group picture, even if everything else about him is perfect. Even a family picture is fine
I guess I need to make friends then...is one other person acceptable or do I need more?
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>>32611559
He just wants people to stop making fun of him for crying like a little bitch
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>>32611562
the ad hominem is the swan song of the loser anon
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>>32611538
The problem with your examples is that all these men lived in societies that were worth living in, we are living in current day Weimar Republic where people are so warped by hedonism that they have degenerated to being unbearable goblins.
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>>32611557
That's gay.
Now if you'll excuse me, I have a few more cans of beer to finish on my own before the sun rises.
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>>32611558
>I will not even match with a guy who doesn't have a group picture
I hate women so much.
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>>32611562
She kind of owned you, anon. And I'm more in agreement with you on this.
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>>32611570
This is somehow an even worse argument than any of your previous arguments.
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>>32611471
>Body 9/10 (gym for years and fake bewbs)
sorry sis but you can't have a 9/10 body with fake tits. fake tits never look good, don't bother trying to challenge that either, because that is a fact.
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>>32611516
>I refer back to french medieval court culture, greeks and romans. who all had a strong and sensitive idea of masculinity
Yet all these men idealized being the best at LITERALLY KILLING PEOPLE lmao, their view on masculinity was even more "TOXIC" than anything you can point to today. "Men can't cry" isn't actually crux of the argument here.
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>>32611575
>She
Didn't that poster (you) claim to be a man though?
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>>32611571
>wanting to live in France at any point in time for any reason
bro, why?
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>>32611576
it's not an arugment but an observation

>>32611571
this is a good point however. but we have to start somewhere or our culture will die out with a whimper
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>>32611558
>I'm a stealth bimbo ;)
Are you a Blondie?
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>>32611580
Napoleonic France was... Okay... There was a lot more social mobility under Napoleon as certain restrictions on peasants and non-noble merchants were lifted but I get where you're coming from, it wasn't a very stable time in France's history.
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>>32611564
OH nevermind then. No offence but I don't take dating advice from single women because they are single. That's why I'm here to extract as much information from you lads as possible.
>>32611565
I hope that everyone can be happy in their own way.
>>32611568
One is fine. It also shows me that you are not a bot/catfish.
>>32611577
Fair enough! That's okay with me
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>>32611558
>I will not even match with a guy who doesn't have a group picture, even if everything else about him is perfect. Even a family picture is fine
Does a group photo in an MMO count? Even at family events I'm always the photographer because I'm the only one that owns/knows how to use a camera
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>>32611581
An observation that you posted to make an argument
Stop being such a faggot, holy shit
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>>32611479
>>gym bunny
>>fake tits
I dislike the latter, but what's wrong with the former?
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>>32611579
Not sure
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>>32611556
>100% AA or smaller
Heh.
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>>32611578
right, and that's normal for men. dying for loyality to an ideal is a masculine ideal. my only point is that strength and sensitivity shoudln't be opposing concepts. because the second fosters the bonds that men get the first from
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>>32611588
That along with everything else tells me she focuses almost exclusively on her appearance.
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>>32611582
Nope!
>>32611586
Could be cute if you are trying to attract a girl who has similar hobbies to you
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>>32611594
I have hobbies and I'm smart! But men don't care about that, let's be real
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>>32611585
>It also shows me that you are not a bot/catfish
How's that? It's not like I'd avoid saving group pics if I were using some guy's instagram
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>>32611587
what argument? an argument only exists within the framework of a debate. you just bowed out no? words have meaning anon
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>>32611595
>Nope!
Femme fatale? Even better
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>>32611592
>men get strength from friendship bonds and sensitivity
Could you be any more of a faggot?
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>>32611595
>Could be cute if you are trying to attract a girl who has similar hobbies to you
Based then I'm gonna use that
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>>32611600
It was meant to get the last word in the argument, or you wouldn't have posted it.
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>>32611597
Two guys already said it's hot that you're a doctor
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>>32611602
every warrior culure in history had strong and emotional brotherhood ties
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State gender.
What do you think does the opposite gender see as the ideal partner?
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>>32611597
>I'm smart!
(X)
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>>32611327
M
Mixed bag. I don't mind crowds as long as shit is under control. But other than that, I get really annoyed when I'm at cons and these fucking obnoxious people decide to stop in the middle of the aisles while people are trying to pass through.

This obnoxious couple of friends stood in me and my best friend's way and after saying excuse me in a loud, but nice voice, I just told them straight up to move the fuck out of our way and they jumpy and apologized.
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>>32611606
The Spartans literally buttfucked each other. Stop trying to turn everyone into faggots.
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>>32611607
f
obviously depends on the moid
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>>32611607
M
Jaime Lannister (if he wasn't fucking his sister)
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>>32611615
ew
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>>32611591
I just added my b cups to the poll
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You guys are honestly idiots.
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>>32611620
Sorry, it's because we're men
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>>32611607
F
Judging by what I've seen on here, cute, wholesome, and feminine, yet having some tomboyish or nerdy hobbies and interests to bond over.
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>>32611598
Oh simply because the fake profiles my friends and I have encountered do not have group pictures!
>>32611605
Well I assume the average man man would rather be with a beautiful barista than a fugly doctor. So looks trump all in the female dating world
>>32611608
Hehe be meaner I get off on it
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>>32611612
it was illegal in ancient greece for a free man to penetrate another free man regardless of if it was consensual or not. What they did was more cuddling and jerking each other off. Also my captcha is cool.
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>>32611623
No, I don't think that's what it is.
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>>32611556
Stealth Bimbo needs to add her DDs to the poll
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>>32611250
The left is false unless the guy is super conventionally attractive to the point that female attention is completely worthless to him, or the woman is extremely fat and/or ugly to the point that the average man does NOT want to see her naked.

The right is totally true, though. Until a woman is older, generally speaking, the average man does absolutely nothing for her.
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>>32611626
>What they did was more cuddling and jerking each other off
>this is somehow not gay
Also that was Athens, and they just fucked teen boys instead of fucking each other. Spartans had big gay orgies together.
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>>32611628
Do it for me please <3
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>>32611629
Nice try, but some of the accounts are explicit.
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>>32611625
>beautiful barista than a fugly doctor
Sure, but the same goes for women
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>>32611605
Just one, I think.
I didn't say it was hot, I said it was impressive. It's honestly a turnoff for me. I don't want a relationship with a woman who is going to be so busy and career-focused.
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>>32611624
You pretty much nailed it
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>>32611543
I'm not that anon (4chan break failed btw)
anyhow victorian masculinity beats post-industrial one
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>>32611637
Oh definitely not. At least where I'm from. The fugly doctor is way more desirable to women.
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>>32611617
My first thought was Khal Drogo
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>>32611643
>At least where I'm from.
Let me guess, a poor country?
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>>32611632
I never said it wasn't gay just that penetrating a free man, regardless of consent, was illegal in ancient greece.
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>>32611643
Nah, expensive city
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>>32611625
I was going to say mean things but since you claim to like it I will refrain.
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>>32611618
Based
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>>32611648
Show me what you've got. Bet you're full of shit :)
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>>32611649
The "B" in "B-cup" stands for "based".
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>>32611643
>The fugly doctor is way more desirable to women.
Haven't anons posted research showing both sexes prioritize looks above all else?
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Non-weebs of /atoga/:
State gender and whether you'd date a weeb.
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>>32611651
My favorite size, so I agree.
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So apparently this is now a big thing, guy is getting roasted and called a creep.
Gender, is this considered too much these days? What did he do wrong?
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>>32611652
Yes and the only thing that can override looks is money, at least for women, for men it begins and ends with how you look.
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>>32611655
M.
Probably not, depends on the type of weeb. If you're into seasonal anime, sure. If you only like slice of life shit, no thank you.
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>>32611607
M
Jason, basically a giant tall murderer (omg i can fix him) who doesn’t talk and probably has a big dick
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>>32611655
Would not date a weeb man because my worst fear as a white woman is dating a white man and finding out he has yellowfever. Would rather find out that he sleeps with a stuffed animal
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>>32611650
Why would I give you what you want? Fuck off.
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>>32611657
M
I literally don't interact with women outside of my family or women married to my friends for this exact reason. The only time I interact with them is in a professional setting at work or me checking out and the cashier is female.
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>>32611607
Male
One of the boys in FFXV, probably the prince so he can financially take care of her too
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>>32611657
F
>What did he do wrong?
He should've written "two" instead of "2".
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>>32611657
M
That's not that bad for a nerd. But yeah, shooting your shot is risky with ubiquitous social media
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>>32611655
Are you considered a weeb if you onl watched one show and liked it?
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>>32611657
This is just one more piece in the pile of evidence that proves that women hate men.
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>>32611664
Hehe
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man dating apps should be banned.
I thought I was fugly becauseo f those apps

but in real life I get way more success. even had a one night stand this week.
I thought my 0 matches on all apps meant I was out of the game but its the algorythms that fuck you over, waste of everyones time and confidence
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>>32611664
Anon... She just got you to be mean again
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>>32611672
Stop replying to me.
>>32611674
Kill yourself.
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>>32611662
What's yellow fever in this context? I've seen it refer to everything from "thinks Asian women are hot" to "thinks all Asian women are submissive doormat tradwives and fetishizes them over that".
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>>32611657
>if guy > 8 on scale then its cute
>if guy < 8 on scale then its creepy
Come on people
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>>32611670
They like chads
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State gender
Do you have panic attacks? How often?
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>>32611673
Everyone's been saying this for a while now, anon. Why are you so slow?
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>>32611679
F
No.
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>>32611678
They tolerate chads to get dick and money and social status. They don't like them.
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>>32611657
>those nails
so she is fat
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>>32611675
Lol, how dumb are you that her reverse psychology worked? Haha
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>>32611655
Male
If she just watches anime or reads the mango? Probably, as long as she wasn't obsessing over a reverse harem of rapists or something.
If she's the stereotype of a weeb and/or is the type to go to conventions? Nope, not my thing.

>>32611657
>hackathon
Poor bastard is probably autistic and looked up how to flirt, then tried to "notice small detail about her" with the unfortunate results you saw depicted.
At least this woman covered the rest of his number, so the dude is fairly lucky.
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>>32611679
Male
Never had one
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>>32611679
f, no
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>>32611680
I never believed it
because it sounded like wishful thinking
but its true, at least in my case
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>>32611679
M
Just had my first in years. Just randomly went into fight-or-flight.
I still have heartburn from it.
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>>32611625
>Well I assume the average man man would rather be with a beautiful barista than a fugly doctor. So looks trump all in the female dating world
Nta but it depends more on the personality. Intelligence is really attractive to me but if the doctor is otherwise very boring and doesn't do anything, then obviously it doesn't work for me. I've seen a lot of intelligent femanons have no sense of imagination and that utterly destroys my attraction
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>>32611684
Fuck off, faggot.
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>>32611672
Can you please tell us what public figure you most resemble so I can masturbate to her?
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>>32611683
Explain.
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>>32611662
I'm a weeb that sleeps with a stuffed animal, and doesn't have yellow fever, what's up
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>>32611662
I'm a stuffed animal that doesn't sleep with weebs but has yellow fever, what's up
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>>32611692
Lol, outsmarted by a feminist bimbo. That must hurt!
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>>32611679
M
I think I had a panic attack once? I started hyperventilating and couldn't stop. It happened during a meal, and I noticed that I was having trouble eating because I needed to breathe so damn much. It got worse and worse as my mom drove me to the hospital, and only stopped when they injected some drug that relaxed me.

I wasn't panicking or anything. Mentally I was fine, and I wasn't particularly stressed about anything either. It's just that "panic attack" was what lined up with the symptoms the most.
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>>32611696
Besides the fact that she has chubby fingers? Those nails are very poorly made (way too thick, weird shape), so they likely were cheap af and done on someone that has no self esteem to have a better job to afford better nails or ask for them to be made better. Ugly girls have low self esteem. Most girls that are ugly are ugly because they are fat.
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>>32611662
I'm a yellow fever that sleeps with weebs but not stuffed animals, what's up
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>>32611679
Male
Every day at work when morning shift comes in
Every day when I'm about to leave my room to see my mom and her husband
Holidays when my other relatives come over
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>>32611657
I thought this was a very specific anon's hand at first
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>>32611700
End your life.
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>>32611675
You'll see me in your dreams tonight baby
>>32611676
I am unfortunately very attracted to white guys who have yellowfever. There's a phenotype and a distinct personality. Usually calm, kind and geeky guys who were nerdy in high school but developed a sense of style and got attractive in college. Usually pale, brown hair, wear glasses, tall. I guess many Asian girls have sweet personalities and are hard working so maybe that's the appeal? Or maybe it's because they're just porn addicts and imagine Asian women to be submissive? Not sure but I can sniff them out from a mile away.
>>32611695
Body Alexandra Daddario but more muscular and fatter legs, face Anne Hathway/Sasha Grey
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ooooh nooooo
white women dont want because i have yellow fever
my worst nightmare has come true
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>>32611708
I don't have dreams.
Stop replying to me.
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>>32611709
asian women don‘t want you either
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>>32611711
then why do they date me
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>>32611708
>Body Alexandra Daddario but more muscular and fatter legs, face Anne Hathway/Sasha Grey
Geez, you are hot then. Thanks!
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>>32611712
because you pay them
>>
State gender.
Do you ever see a conflict where you desperately want both sides to lose?
>>
Women, my sanity is coming apart and I'm drinmking again and I'm drunk at 6:45 AM while playing on a brainrot constnat dopamine Battlefield 4 server. How do I recover from this?
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How long do i wait before asking an fwb if she wants to hang again? Weve been seeing each other for only a few weeks...

Ive been thinking it's a good idea to wait and let her initiate the next meetup but idk. We last saw each other a week ago and the sex was pretty great, i went 3 rounds and got her off. And now im mega horny and im thinking maybe i should just get in touch and try to organize another meetup...
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>>32611716
Yes, the gender war.
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>>32611710
You should work on that, take a magnesium supplement perhaps
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>>32611716
Male
No, typically I don't give a shit about one side and just want the other to lose.
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>>32611716
Cold War
Cold War 2.0
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>>32611720
Nothing to work on.
Stop replying to me.
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>>32611716
I think most conflicts are like that
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>>32611716
F
India vs Pakistan
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>>32611556
High fives for the femanon that's a DDD
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>>32611718
She's probably expecting you to reach out. Give it a few days otherwise she'll perceive you as desperate
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>>32611717
Not a woman, but which server? Lemme join.
I'm going to teabag everyone I knie
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>>32611723
Okay I'll stop
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>>32611725
Hindubros...
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>>32611726
*jiggles*
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state gender
do you think dabbing is seductive?
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>>32611716
M
right wing infighting
terfs & lgb drop the t vs. right wingers (but I repeat myself)
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>>32611732
f
no?
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>>32611716
India pakistan
Israel palestine
Americas wars in the middle east
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>>32611432
>I've picked op women debating about who's the best wagner interpreter solti or karajan
Ehm
The fact that Karajan was even mentioned in this instance is a huge red flag. We all know it's either Solti or Furtwängler. Karajan was just massively pushed by his label (DG) and built up his reputation as a "bad boy" in the 70s, which made him even more popular. His Wagner recordings remain mediocre at best. The same can be said about his pupil, Thielemann.
I am shocked we have this discussion at all.
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>>32611735
what why the fuck not
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>>32611732
M
how could it not be
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>>32611727
ok i already waited a week, so you reckon just reach out to organize something now when I get the chance?
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>>32611679
F. Only very rarely, during intimacy.
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>>32611741
damn nice powerdabs
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>>32611732
M
Depends on the attitude. If a woman is doing it to be ridiculous, it's funny, and if she's being funny for me, it's flattering. Flattery is seductive to me.

I can't imagine a guy dabbing to ever instill positive feelings in a woman, though.
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>>32611471
>fake bewbs
That is an immediate minus 5 in the looks department. You're a 4 at most sweetie
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>>32611725
Bloody basterd bitch
Fuck you bloody benchod
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>>32611716
M
Around the time I was still friends with her, I wanted my close friend's relationship to genuinely end.

For starters, she is taking advantage of a guy who has never been in a relationship in his whole life and had emotionally cheated on him with her situationship 9 or 10 times. She'd justify this behavior to him by saying "oh well it shouldn't be a problem because I'm getting a free meal and he gets nothing" despite that being severely untrue because he got her attention and validity that she still loves him and wants him (she wound up sneaking off to his home on his birthday and she thinks I don't know that). She's used me as a scapegoat for her lies to her bf.

But I also don't like how much of woman her bf is because the dude constantly runs his mouth about me and her situationship ex nonstop and it's genuinely pathetic. All while putting a front that he "liked" me. We didn't have to be chummy, just cordial. And if he had a problem with me, he should be man enough to tell me. But just because I don't like him and his two faced personality doesn't mean I don't fele bad for the guy. He's being strung along and essentially kneeling like a cuck by allowing his gf to break his trust and respect. It's like watching a car wreck. Hard to ignore when it's just there in your face.
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>>32611743
Man a girl I took to a love hotel had a full screaming panic attack & obviously I was fine with it and just hugging her through it but I was def worried someone was going to kick the door down or call the police
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>>32611738
Karajan was based, though
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>>32611742
Yep do it anon.
>>32611746
I'll be the prettiest 4 you ever saw <3
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I hate women.
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>>32611718
>manwhores posting in my thread again
My disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined
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>>32611749
She was clearly not used to having those attacks yet. I've gotten so good at hiding my panic attacks that I can feel them coming. So I ask whoever I'm dating to take me from behind so I can bury my face in a pillow while I cry and pretend the shaking is from my legs going weak. Usually they don't even notice or stop.
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>>32611752
I love women
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>>32611755
You sound like a slut
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>>32611752
everyone does, even women do
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>>32611757
I both hate and love women simultaneously.
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>>32611757
Didn't ask, faggot.
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>>32611758
>damaged woman prone to panic attacks is also a slut
Imagine my shock
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>>32611718
Don't reach out until there's a lot of time passed by. Or let her first.
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>>32611753
We virgins are still here
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>>32611758
Slut just means you really like sex, right? Then sure. Not a whore, at least.
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>>32611751
>I'll be the prettiest 4 you ever saw <3
Looks don't impress me any more. I'm too old for that
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>>32611764
Nta. I genuinely don't understand panic attacks. Like, what causes them? What's the purpose behind them?
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>>32611755
Idk, she's been having them for a while and like you she says she can feel them coming on. She did bury her face in a pillow and scream but, you know, a scream is a scream.
I definitely wouldn't say they're hidden tho lmfao
She's a great woman btw I really respect her. I feel a bit like I'm painting her as a nuisance or something
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>>32611762
No one asked you either.
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>>32611767
>>32611767
It means you have a lot of casual sex with different men
At least whores value themselves
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>>32611771
Which is why I didn't reply to anyone.
Go be a faggot somewhere else.
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>>32611755
>So I ask whoever I'm dating to take me from behind so I can bury my face in a pillow while I cry and pretend the shaking is from my legs going weak
I guess that beats klonopin
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>>32611773
>loving women is gay
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>>32611776
Simping is faggot behavior.
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>>32611777
He wasn't simping, though. All he did was state that he loves women.
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>>32611773
I know you'll post the same thing another 1-2 times. So we'll talk then :)
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>>32611728
a locker 24/7 server
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>>32611778
Yes, in response to me saying I hate them, i.e. being a white knight, i.e. simping.
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>>32611770
Oh, then I guess her panic attacks are just different. I don't scream during mine, just cry and shake, if anything beyond shutting down. I'm glad you appreciate her regardless.
>>32611772
I don't have lots of casual sex. I've just had panic attacks since I was a child, and now I'm in my thirties, so I've had a lot of time to date a bf and learn how my panic attacks work.
>>32611775
What's that?
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>>32611779
Kill yourself.
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>>32611765
do you think a week is long enough?
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>>32611773
>>32611777
>if you love women you're GAY
woah
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>>32611782
Sex with a bf is still casual sex
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>>32611773
Imagine going to the only thread on 4chan guaranteed to have women in it, just to spam that you hate them every few hours, every day... You absolute fucking loser.
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>>32611785
>>32611783
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>>32611786
Then yes, I'm a filthy slut who has premarital sex with someone I love. Please, God, forgive me while you watch us and jerk off in heaven.
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>>32611787
That's the first time I've posted anything like that in 2025, dumb cunt.
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>>32611789
>>32611783
Cunt
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>>32611783
You're the one who's miserable
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>>32611792
Nah, I'm having fun.
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>>32611790
Imagine if your parents could see how pathetic you've become.
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>>32611790
https://archive.4plebs.org/adv/thread/32598190/#32599611
https://archive.4plebs.org/adv/thread/32595740/#32595889
https://archive.4plebs.org/adv/thread/32595740/#32595851
https://archive.4plebs.org/adv/thread/32585675/#32585949
https://archive.4plebs.org/adv/thread/32583656/#32585748
https://archive.4plebs.org/adv/thread/32580893/#32581542
Must I continue...?
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>>32611793
No, being pissed off and full of hate is a shitty way to live
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>>32611794
I talked to my mom earlier today. She's not disappointed in me in the slightest.
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>>32611795
Literally none of those were me.
Shocking, I know, that maybe there's more than one person who hates women.
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>>32611795
Jeez, what a schizo.
>>32611797
Did you tell her you hate women?
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>>32611796
Considering how many posters in these threads claim to have been on 4chan for 10+ years, I'm surprised how few actually grasp the concept of trolling.
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>>32611800
That's literally just me and 2 other posters
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>>32611799
No, she assumes that I do though because I'm not a raging feminist.
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>>32611804
>because I'm not a raging feminist.
To you, anyone who doesn't hate women is a feminist.
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>>32611804
She assumes you hate her? Her own child?
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Wait, why am I on this board again?
M or F
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>>32611798
>exact same pattern and posting style.
Sorry anon, we know it's you.
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>>32611805
No, but if you feel the need to slap back a post about hating women on an anonymous Burmese waterbending forum, you're probably some kind of feminist.
>>32611806
Yeah, probably. Usually any time a topic comes up that has to do with women, women's rights, etc. she starts screaming at me hysterically because I'm not frothing at the mouth upset over whatever it is she wanted to talk about.
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>>32611804
Your feelings of resentment can't be healthy. Get into anime so there'll at least be SOME women you don't hate, even if they're fictional.
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>>32611809
It's three simple words, dumbshit. And anons have been making that exact post in these threads for years.
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>>32611808
M
Because you love women?
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>>32611811
Thanks for the advice, you can leave it in the garbage can along with the rest of your opinions on the way out.
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>>32611813
You've been posting this for years?
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>>32611815
Rude.
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>>32611816
English, motherfucker. Do you speak it?
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>>32611808
this is the type of thing an eye divine cybermancy character would say
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>>32611810
I just tell my mom we have to agree to disagree on feminism and politics.
Is yours BPD or something?
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>>32611810
>Usually any time a topic comes up that has to do with women, women's rights, etc. she starts screaming at me hysterically because I'm not frothing at the mouth upset over whatever it is she wanted to talk about.
>psycho parent causes child to hate the sex of said parent
Many such cases!
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>>32611822
desu remember we're talking about 4chan users here. odds are they're just autistic
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>>32611818
Did you know Samuel L Jackson was a black panther?
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>>32611821
OCD, I think. Maybe a touch of autism too.
>>32611822
Nah, we get along well when we're not discussing politics and she's usually pretty cool.
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>>32611825
I don't like him or the movie, I was just using the line.
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>>32611824
NTA, but autism doesn't cause you to post the same shit 3 times a day for years.
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>>32611825
I didn't realize he could be any more based, wow.
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>>32611828
NTA. Why don't you like him?
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>>32611817
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxw8xg1lpp4
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>>32611825
>Did you know Samuel L Jackson was a racist terrorist?
I didn't know that, thanks for bringing that up
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>>32611827
>OCD, I think. Maybe a touch of autism too
Any chance you got some of those genes?
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>>32611825
damn, fair
explains some things (like his commitment to playing Stephen in Django)
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>>32611655
f, yes my gf is a bit of a wee. I sometimes watch anime with her
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>>32611832
He seems pretty full of himself even though he's just another actor, and he doesn't really seem capable of playing more than one character.
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>>32611837
>is a bit of a wee
this anon is dating urine...
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>>32611837
Cute
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>>32611834
oh cope you whiney nutter
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>>32611833
Thanks for bringing the existence of this video to my attention. It's beautiful.
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>>32611679
f, yes. I had one maybe 3 or 4 nights ago. but I more have meltdowns than panic attacks
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>>32611835
Idk
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>>32611814
ambivalent I guess
if we're talking about the entire sex
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>>32611837
>>>/lgbt/
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>>32611850
She's welcome here.
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>>32611851
Not really
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>>32611851
No, she isn't.
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>>32611837
>>>/lgbt/
>wee
>>>/trash/
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>>32611847
>>32611850
Are you the same guy?
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>>32611833
I can't believe that my little confederate could be this cute
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>>32611657
>feminine handwriting
>"I LOVE those two braids in the back of your hair"
she wrote this and claimed a man gave it to her didn't she?
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>>32611855
No
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>>32611657
M
For the entire time I've been dating (so, like, the past eight years), it's never really been the done thing to try that whole "let me just ask a girl out before we know each other" thing. You either use dating apps to meet strangers, or else you meet someone naturally and then, organically, ask them out.
I think the context is also extremely important. There's a big difference between getting asked out in a neutral situation vs. this, which is "every fucking time I try and explore my hobby I know I'm going to be the odd one out, guys are going to treat me weirdly, and I'm going to have to deal with guys trying to ask me out"
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>>32611855
No
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>>32611851
No
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>>32611853
>>32611852
She is, I already declared it.
>>32611859
Good catch, anon.
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>>32611864
>I already declared it
So what? Who gives a fuck what you say?
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>>32611862
Post a screenshot
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>>32611780
holy shit, my condolences
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>>32611845
Confederate shrine maidens wearing their traditional southern spring festival kimonos while they walk around eating yakitori and french fries is a rare but comfy vibe
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>>32611864
We don't care for your simpcuck opinion
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>>32611866
>So what? Who gives a fuck what you say?
On this matter? Probably every woman here.
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>>32611867
Why?
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>>32611870
>simpcuck
Anon can't think for himself, his synapses can only fit /pol/ menes
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>>32611873
Fair enough. It would've been hilarious if you were also the anon that was cucked by a lesbian
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>>32611655
F. Only if they have watched DBZ and liked it.
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i love bisexual women
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>>32611867
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>>32611877
Me too
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>>32611878
That's a lot of based...
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>>32611878
Does that mean you both take cock all the way to the base?
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>>32611871
That's nice, no one that matters.
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>>32611882
Stop telling us about your gay fantasies, fag.
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>>32611883
Atoga couldn't exist without them by definition
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Women
Thoughts on a guy that reads romance books/manga? Specifically not harem, or not a focus on it anyways
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>>32611886
Sure it could.
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>>32611885
But I hate women, and hating women is gay
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>>32611889
I'm not sure if you could be any more of a faggot if you tried.
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>>32611470
based floor sleeper
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>>32611888
>ask the opposite gender anything
Who's the opposite gender, retard?
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>>32611875
No, that's an old screencap from /fit/. All three participants were pieces of shit.
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>>32611890
I am trying. Give me your bussy anon
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>>32611892
Gender doesn't exist, so no one.
These threads have been a chatroom for a long time, don't need women to chat with random people anonymously on the internet.
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>>32611897
I've got a better idea, let's see how fast you can make it to the bottom of the ocean with a concrete block around your ankles.
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>>32611898
Why do you want to chat up other men?
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>>32611900
Are you one of those morons that thinks these threads are for dating or hooking up?
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>>32611887
I read smut, seems pretty much the same so I can't judge him.
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>>32611874
>/pol/ menes
What about those men, Rajesh?
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Should i go to the pub/clubs and see if i can get laid or meet som people?
Im 24 M and its 11:30 pm where im at
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>>32611901
Of course not.
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>>32611899
Honestly the fresh air would probably do you some good.
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>>32611877
>>32611879
Ngl, they do give the best advice
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>>32611877
I like sluts too
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>>32611902
So it's just neutral then?
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>>32611795
Hasn't he been doing this for several years now?
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>>32611911
You sound like a cuck
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>>32611795
>>32611913
He is multiple people. Hating women for one reason or another isn't rare.
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>>32611912
Yep. Unless he's really into certain authors and would enjoy sharing thoughtful recommendations, then that passion could be a plus.
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>>32611904
Yes bro, don't even worry about getting laid but try to have a good time
Even going solo I had some fun nights out and met cool groups of people (and got girls' numbers in some cases)
>>32611887
Have you read Maison Ikkoku
>>32611825
Idk I just knew he was black
>>32611808
To suffer
>>32611725
In the cricket or real life?
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28m

I just joined a boxing / mma gym. I have been working out for years but just decided to join the gym because it’s nice and I want to learn boxing.

I have my second class this morning. I want to buy a pair of boxing gloves from the gym so I don’t have to keep paying to rent every time I take a class. But I also want to buy a hoodie that the gym makes.

I feel like a poser or a fag buying gloves and a hoody. Am I over thinking?
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I have a big mug of hot tea with honey. For a few minutes at least, life is good.
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>>32611917
Schizo cope
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>>32611921
>Yes bro, don't even worry about getting laid but try to have a good time
>Even going solo I had some fun nights out and met cool groups of people (and got girls' numbers in some cases)
yeah i also wouldnt mind having a night in, doing some reading or something too... also went out last night so not too sure what to do...
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>>32611922
depends, who's gonna judge you for it other than yourself? And you you care about their opinion
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>>32611673
>dating apps should be banned
Some of us have better dating success on apps than real life because we're crazy, please don't ban them
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>>32611662
>Would rather find out that he sleeps with a stuffed animal
Wait is this bad :/
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>>32611927
You’re probably right
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What do women think about atavistic stigmata?
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>>32611928
there should be a dating app where you can list all your mental health disorders
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>>32611673
It seems like on apps only looks matter. Not real looks either, but having professionally made "candid" photos of rock climbing and shit
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>>32611657
>2 braids in the back of your hair
Bro was trying to rizz Lain
Seriously though that's retarded that people are calling him "creepy" for an innocent note. When I waited tables a girl left me a note with her number, was also called cute at another job, nobody would call them freely though. Double standards much?
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Lesbians, you're also welcome here ITT btw.
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>>32611938
isn't that duolicious
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>>32611918
I do really like some authors yeah, I could talk about some stories for a long time
>>32611921
>Have you read Maison Ikkoku
No, I hadn't heard about it until a few days ago when someone here talked about a character they like, I think Ibuki?
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>>32611942
*nobody would call them creepy
>>32611938
>dating app where you can list all your mental health disorders
Picrel me listing my mental disorders
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>>32611923
Nice
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>>32611942
I am waiting for some actual F responses, can only guess.

Assuming the issue here is that she was the only girl at the event. Unless she's an attention whore, she's just trying to fit in and be treated like every other guy there. The content of the note itself is probably secondary here.
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>>32611655
How tf did non-weebs even end up on this website?
>>32611607
M
Tall, muscular, assertive guy who is rich with social status but also has a lot of time for her and countless skills and hobbies
Or maybe that's just what incels think idk
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>>32611556
Nice spread of sizes here
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>>32611948
>Maison Ikkoku
It's a cuck manga, just in case
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>>32611558
>not even match with a guy who doesn't have a group picture
What if he has a picture with his cats
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>>32611240
I dreamt that I got a girlfriend. Sort of, maybe.
I had been admiring her butt in a way too shirt skirt working in the bar all night. Then I woke up not remembering how I had gotten home, and then realized I hadn't - I was slumped over the kitchen table in a different place.
Then she started to make sounds from the next room. She invited me to share the bed she was sleeping in with her. I cuddled her for a minute until she suggested we should try to have sex. But we were interrupted by the rest of the house waking up.
She didn't seem to mind being carried around like a koala after that. I carried her to communal breakfast in the main lodge hall with fireplaces and long tables with split log benches.
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>>32611240
What is 4chan for women?
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>>32611943
>Lesbians, you're also welcome here ITT btw.
No
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>>32611958
You guys raided the mmo I was playing
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>>32611966
Crystal cafe, and lolcow. Crazy feminists, though.
>>32611967
Yes
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>>32611470
Based floor sleeper, I've done the same many a time
If you're still here, have a coffee, build your bed, then take a break and do some work
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>>32611946
completely dead in my area, no guys at all.
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>>32611966
well I use 4chan, it's not like it's just for men
>>32611973
crystal cafe is not feminists. they are misandrists and femcels
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>>32611975
Try lowering the height limit by an inch or two
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>>32611923
Based honey enjoyer
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>>32611979
>not feminists. they are misandrists
In my experience that distinction hasn't been so clear.
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>>32611327
M, no, I don't like people in general
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>>32611980
I don't think it even had a height slider when I used it (on launch and for a few months)
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>>32611308
>zoomers girl so allergic to showing some skin
Bruh most girls I dated wore too little even in winter, I was worried about them catching cold
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>>32611990
Really? That seems kinda basic
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>>32611279
It's a good speedrun strat but I have a shared bathroom so no
>>32611256
I want to tidy her apartment...
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>>32611979
It's the same picture
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>>32611250
>someone saying "I'll love you!"
Ayo which dream reality is this
>>32611968
Get fooked m8
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>>32611979
>they are misandrists and femcels
And lesbians. If you think the "I hate women" guy is bad, at least he doesn't fuck other men. Lesbians' hatred of men is on a completely different, higher level.
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>>32611974
I am, I'm on my second cup of coffee and I think I'll just stay up cause I have an appointment today at 10am.
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What male-centric hobby is accessible and cheap enough for a woman to try getting into to meet men around where she lives?
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>>32612004
NTA. My lesbian friend has helped me get laid a few times
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Bitches and manwhores I'm going to the SUPERMARKET what are you wanting??
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>>32612004
Yeah but every lesbian thread on these websites devolves into talking about men
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>>32612007
Martial Arts?
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>>32612004
>And lesbians. If you think the "I hate women" guy is bad, at least he doesn't fuck other men.
Well, who knows
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>>32612007
>another women who can't stand that men have alone time and wants to ruin another hobby
great...
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>>32612004
>If you think the "I hate women" guy is bad, at least he doesn't fuck other men.
Ehh, a lot of redpill/incel men give closeted gay guy vibes
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>>32612007
I was the only woman at the gun club I went to and you could rent the guns for like $20. but the guys were more millennial/gen X/boomers. no zoomers
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>>32612004
>If you think the "I hate women" guy is bad, at least he doesn't fuck other men
(X)
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>>32612007
Idk, maybe tennis? I met my ex there
Or badminton
Or fishing (you could go fishing for men)
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>>32612011
1 hug to go plz
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>>32612007
t. goes to hobby groups, finds the tallest most attractive guy and harasses him even though he has a girlfriend, then has a BPD episode and nobody hears from her ever again
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>>32612016
I like meeting women
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>>32612022
Okaaay then *hugz* :3
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>>32612013
I already know some karate from when I was a kid. Idk how adult martial arts work, though.
>>32612016
You fucks TOLD me to look into male hobbies to meet guys.
>>32612019
I don't do well around firing ranges.
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>>32612017
But you saying that is meaningless because women always use this cope regardless of if it's true
You have no integrity
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>>32612028
that wasn't to go, I would like to speak to the manager please.
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>>32612008
>a few times
So much for the quality of those hookups
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>>32612021
I'm not very sporty. What sorts of meetups to people into fishing have? I always assumed it was a more private hobby.
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>>32612029
>You fucks TOLD me to look into male hobbies to meet guys.
Why can't you just go to a hobby that is already ruined by women like dancing or running?
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>>32612031
*does a 360* I am the manager bitch
And I am barring you from the store for being too cute
(Just kidding I'll go find the real manager I guess)
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>>32612032
What?
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>>32612029
>do well
Ah yes the "I cannot handle mundane aspects of life" personality type
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>>32611943
They really aren't.
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>>32612037
Loud noises hurt.
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>>32612035
D:
I would like to speak to your corporate office!
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>>32612034
>Why can't you just go to a hobby that is already ruined by women like dancing
>Anon wishes he could dance with men again
Lol, gay.
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>>32611962
It isn't.
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>>32612039
They are
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>>32612021
nta but how do you start with something like tennis without another person to play with?
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>>32612042
I dance but not as a hobby and that was said partly because I thought it was funny. But its weird and creepy that she is targeting mainly male hobbies so she can be one of the few women to pick out men. It's predatory and rapey.
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>>32611979
>crystal cafe is not feminists. they are misandrists and femcels
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>>32612033
>not very sporty
Tennis and badminton can be quite casual
What sorts of meetups do people into fishing have
Idk, ones to catch fish presumably
I'm too ADHD for anything besides sega bass fishing
>>32612034
Also orienteering is a good shout as it can be more about navigation than running
I can't read a map for shit so when I did it the girls would use their brains and I was the brawn who would carry everything
Dancing is a good way to meet girls but probably not a great way to meet guys as a girl, most of the ones I saw were frutier than Ricky Martin in the salon
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>>32612040
If only standard ear protection existed to keep you from going deaf
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>>32612047
>I dance
That's still a little gay.
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>>32612046
>how do you start with something like tennis without another person to play with
Join a tennis club/class
>>32612041
Sorry ma'am I don't get paid enough for this tbqh
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>>32612050
You're going to insult me no matter how I respond, so ok.
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>>32612052
Depends on the type of dancing but its a basic human thing that I think we should all do now and then.
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>>32612054
He's an incel, so no, he's definitely not okay.
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>>32611250
M
Yes. Both versions.

>>32611327
No. They're cramped and noisy and paradoxically socially isolating.

>>32611679
M. I had a period in my life when I would get panic attacks, but they're not a thing that have been following be throughout life. Mostly it's just depression.

>>32611732
M. No.
Then again, a girl doing anything and acting stupid to get my attention is, a little, so maybe?



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