Sun Wheel Editionprevious: >>4865724This thread is dedicated to all animals of the Reptilia and Amphibia classes. Topics include, but are not limited to: geckos, snakes of all kinds, frogs, salamanders, newts, turtles, tortoises, and much more. Before asking a question, do a search on the internet to see if it has been answeredClassifieds for finding breeders and products:>morphmarket.com>kingsnake.com>faunaclassifieds.com>reptilescanada.com (Canadian breeders)>caudata.orgMost forums will have a "for sale" section on them, so look for that, especially if you have a specific herp you want. Craigslist can also be a good source for cheap aquariums, and make sure to check for any reptile expos that occur in your area.When asking a question, make sure to include these details:>Type and size of animal>Enclosure dimensions>Humidity and temperature>Type of substrate>The decor you use>How often you feed>The type of food you use>If your animal is wild caught or captive bred>How often you handle>Who you bought the animal fromOther Helpful Resourceswww.blackjungleterrariumsupply.comwww.joshsfrogs.comhttp://www.reptilesmagazine.comhttp://www.anapsid.orghttp://www.hylid.clara.co.uk/caer.htmhttps://www.americanmadeexotics.com/breeding-ball-pythons-article.htmlhttp://blogs.thatpetplace.com/thatreptileblog/
First for Mr Toad
>finally get terrarium set up to install final decor>the bamboo hollows I was planning to add as a center piece are out of stockRancid luck
Would tuatara make good pets?
>>4881766>They remain active at temperatures as low as 5 °C (41 °F), while temperatures over 28 °C (82 °F) are generally fatal. The optimal body temperature for the tuatara is from 16 to 21 °C (61 to 70 °F), the lowest of any reptile. The body temperature of tuatara is lower than that of other reptiles, ranging from 5.2–11.2 °C (41.4–52.2 °F) over a day, whereas most reptiles have body temperatures around 20 °C (68 °F).Doesn't sound very feasible unless you'd live in a place with cool summers where you can keep them in a permanent outdoor enclosure.
Are desert biomes boring?
I didn't expect it to feel so good to earn a herp's trust. Just a single digit IQ cresty with no capacity for love so it's not actually a big accomplishment but I've never had a pet like it before so it feels nice seeing it get excited to see me and jump into my hands. The internet says not to handfeed them too often but I don't give a shit because it makes me happy and the little retard isn't too retarded to hunt bugs yet so it's probably fine.I should get a snek someday.
You REALLY have to plan out exactly how branches are going to look from the tank's inception to have it not just look like a pile of sticks
>>4881788Depends on the desert, plain sand dunes suck ass, but places like the Mohave are rad.
>Report insect and reptile fight pages on Instagram for animal abuse>they say it's not against their terms I fucking hate normal fags
>>4881990you should tell youtubers about it
>See cute girl in line at herp store >Order my crickets and wait for them while she orders>Live rat pup >Immediately disgusted but maybe she's trying switch to frozen>Get crickets and go to the register line>See her come behind me out of the corner of my dangling the bag like you would a thing of applesI hate live niggers so much.
>>4882202I genuinely don't know how someone can do that unless they absolutely NEED to. I remember I felt bad when I fucking switched from frozen pinkies to frozen fuzzies purely because they looked cuter.
>>4882202>me out of the corner of my dangling the bag like you would a thing of applesWhat
>>4882311She has the bag swinging by her leg and tilter sideways.
>>4881818Thankfully, any small section of canopy is essentially just a pile of sticks.
True or false?
>>4882401True reptile
>>4882411I like how nobody knows where the fuck they sit between bird reptiles and lizard reptiles, they're just there somewhere in the middle
>>4882420They're birds
>>4882274considering everything that has to go right in order to feed live>finding a place that will sell you live feeder rodents in the first place>whether or not that has the size and type of feeder rodent, and if it's something like a pinkie or a rat pup it has to be THAT DAY or else they'll likely die of exposure>have to euthanise or otherwise let an infant animal suffer die of exposure if the snake doesnt eat it, or if it's an adult contain it so you can reattempt the feed>repeat every single time you have to feed your snakeversus frozen thawed>remove frozen rodent from freezer >thaw rodent like one would a chicken breast >if it's not eaten just dispose of thawed rodent like one would spoiled meat>not have to worry about procuring more food for the snake for a whole year because it's a 25 pack and your snake eats two of them a monthThey're either uninformed and just dont know you can feed frozen thawed, or they're fucked up in the head and get off on it. Apart from very specific edge cases of people trying their damnedest with wild caughts that just dont see dead things as food, there really is no other excuse.
>>4882429now im just wondering where i heard that considering how wrong it was
>>4882274>erm its nature bro
>>4882429You're a bird.
while i was waiting outside, i scared a fence lizard into hiding, and as i was standing there he would look me from around the corner before scurrying off, and he did this three times only because i kept hearing him scurrying into position to look at me and away when i wasnt looking; i think i was standing in his spot.
>>4882464Everything is birds actually. This is what the "scientists" are hiding from you.
>>4882536Even after rearranging my tank and moving his favorite branch, my gecko still sat on the same spot of that branch even though it was further from the heat, I think they do just have spots they like.Probably something to do with scent marking as well.
Lizard was lying on a bromeliad leaf, not even bending itmost precious thing I've ever seenbut I couldn't watch because he'd get uncomfortable and learn I was going to stare at him if he did itCat stretched in her sleep and spooked him off anywaySadge
>>4882567Birds aren't real and neither are "scientists".
>Dangle a cricket literally in his face for a minute straight to no reaction.>Does a sudden 8 inch vertical ovdr the tongs and bites my finger instead He's so fucking retarded
Have you ever seen a nice (semi) aquatic turtle enclosure? Is it even possible? Besides a pond of course.
>>4883066I've seen some nice enclosure for mud and musk turtles. Helps that they are overwhelmingly carnivorous and won't obliterate all live plants like sliders do.
>>4882992one of these days a specific one of my geckos is going to drop dead from an ailment I accidentally overlook because she acts so fucking retarded and spastic on a normal day
>>4883071this one is very nicedoes this species not need a basking area?
>>4883124The basking area in the previous pic is on the left, just a bit covered by the plants and root. Musk turtles still need a proper basking spot, albeit not using it as much as other turtles. They often just bask in shallow water or on roots hanging out.
>>4883071>>4883132>pothos
>>4883165W-whats wrong with pothos?
>>4883184Lmaoooooo
>>4883188
Still trying to find feeder insects other than fruit flies that will climb up in the light rather than digging down and only coming out in the dark.
>>4883222Good luck. I've heard some anons say flies might work. Never tried it myself.I've heard over in the EU or UK that they use locusts instead of crickets? They probably don't burrow, right?
>>4883132Ah i see
>>4883294yeah bro locusts are the exact animal I want to keep a ton of in a box at a time
Its adorable how baby dubias will just live inside food
>>4883500Just make sure the box is closed well and you keep it away from your crops. It'll be fine.
>>4883649Having their legs rubbed (like by other locusts in a small space) is what makes them go insane and make them fly in the daytimeThey also just fly regularly in their normal form if its not too hot so I have no clue how or why anyone would keep them as feeders
WHY DOES THEIR BREATHING POUCH STOP WHEN THEY SLEEP I THOUGHT HE WAS DEAD
Holy kek
I like bearded dragons but they're just too much to deal with. Sperm plugs, clogged pores and egg binding mixed with prolapses and organ failure? Yeah no thanks.
>>4884143You smell like a mammal. Maybe a rat or something.
Why do you constantly hear about calcium dusting but only barely hear about multivitamins? are they neccessary? overkill? needed? not?
Also, if a lizard eats something other than insects, and they store calcium for use when they need it, wouldn't it be fine to mix calcium powder into their veggies/cgd instead of their insects? If they store it it shouldn't matter where they get it from, right? And why do people recommend against calcium dishes and always say "no, dust the insects instead"? If they have too much calcium you can just see it build up, they use it and their stores go down, and you can put it back in. I'm not seeing the issue? I'm just tired of half my crickets hiding out in the leaf litter and dying alone instead of getting eaten because I shook them with slightly more than a tiny pinch of calcium
>>4884330and ALSO, if the insects are eating the cgd that has the calcium in it, aren't they getting gut loaded with calcium? This all just seems like an easy no-brainer, I have to be missing something here.
>>4884325because the overwhelming majority of people dont actually have an understanding of what they're talking about or why it's recommended and just repeat what they hear. Arcadia has a range of supplements and actually recommends a specific cycle to make sure they're getting everything they need>arcadiareptile.com/earthpro/feeding-programme/
>>4884356>Reptile supplement store says you need to give your reptiles supplements
>holding cricket>he's staring at the cricket>open door>he doesn't run away>move hand inside>he doesn't run away>drop cricket onto the ground>boltsso close
>>4884426
What's the smallest snake that still feels like a snake instead of a worm with eyesI know snakes spend all day curled in a ball but I feel bad that they seemingly can't get a good long full body slither going in a lot of tanks
>>4884585Sand boas are pretty small 18-24 inches max. But it's also a sand boa, so you'll never see it
>>4884585male hognose snakes are usually 2 ft or less, females up to 3 ft.rosy boas are 2-3 ft long and probably would be more visible than sand boas
>>4884608it's also a sand boa so it looks fucking stupid
>>4884585Garters are active and look like snakes
>>4884766you know a garter is the only snake i've ever seen in the wild and it bit mesomething something fate
Its fun that he'll get spooked away by me getting up from my chair or the cat doing anything, but he'll come up out of hiding when I'm literally recording death metal next to him
I'm starting to think living in a canadian basement is actually an advantage, all of these species that are "hard to keep" because they need low/mid temperatures and night drops are exactly what I can easily provide.Amusing that everyone on the internet is American so all the really hot species are considered easy while the ones kept in the 70s are for "advanced keepers".
>>4884797with garters you probably want to get more than one, they're social snakes and tend to be somewhat shy if they're they only ones in the enclosure. More snakes means bigger tank though.Also make sure you JUST get males, because females get A LOT bigger.
>>4884817>all of these species that are "hard to keep" because they need low/mid temperatureswhat does this even apply to, other than caudates
>create jungle gym of sticks and branches with tons of variations of heat>he just climbs on the glass and sits/sleeps on the ground
>>4884851That is my greatest fear for the gecko enclosure I spent like a month building a hardscape for.
>>4885060better to have the option and have them not use than to not have the option and have them want to climb something they can't. choosing not to do something is still a choice.
Got a little colony of house geckos living on ours. Do they like some kind of a light on at night to draw in insects, or should I just leave it dark for them?
>>4885071leave the light on, it's a free buffet for them
>>4883071>>4883132gorgeous enclosure, damb
>>4885060my leos climb on everything I give them
>>4884827things like a lot of the temperate rat snakes, geckos, etc
>>4885566most houses are too warm for Chinese cave geckos>rat snakeshow cool? like room temperature would be too hot? never heard of this
He's grown so much since I got him
>>4885724
Aside from eye-blood squirting and tail mutilation are there other self defense mechanism that reptiles use?
>>4885786Shel
>>4885786>playing dead>dumping a load of shit/piss onto the predator>mimicry>camouflage>intimidation tactics such as frilled lizards, blue tongue skinks, rattlesnakes, or hissing as a more general one>spitting cobra shooting venom>fish-scale geckos having large easily detachable scales>armadillo girdled lizard rolling into a ball>Strophurus geckos shooting a foul smelling liquid>thorny devils being covered in spines and having a "false head" on the neck that they present towards predators
>>4885810also>advanced escapes like basilisks running over water or flying geckos gliding>large monitors, iguanas, tegus using their tails as whips
>>4885786Poison/venom and warning signs that telegraph said poison/venom
>>4885786
Found my beardie with her face submerged in her bowl chugging water for minutes today. I've NEVER seen her drink in two years.
>>4886054It was rare for mine too, probably because theyre adapted to get as much hydration as they need from the plants they eat. He'd usually drink when I bathed him though
Remember my mourning gecko with the weird jaw a few weeks ago? Holy shit it got worse. The lower jaw is now almost completely missing, it seems it fouled away. she also has shedding issues despite the tank being humind enough. she probably cant eat and gets thinner every day, sadly shes still too fast and escapes when i try to catch her; i plan to euthanize her, theres nothing i can do.Also one of the two eggs i found and put into a incubator was now infested by phorid flies. I only have one adult healthy mourning gecko left now that doesnt lay eggs at all except for those two i found in a bromeliad or i dont find them because the tank is too much structured, too many bark, too many plants, but i dont see any hatchlings. fuck off, some people dont do anything, they almost abuse them and they breed like rabbits and i care so much about them and i have no luck at all; im keeping reptiles since im 12 now im 37 and i never had such trouble/bad luck like with those little guys.Got two small one for free from my reptile shop, they died after four months for no reason, didnt grow at all. Bought the one big healthy one i still have last year as a subadult, no problems, she grew good, she laid eggs back last winter but both were duds. than bought her companion this spring as a relatively small specimen, she grew great, was almost adult and was doing fine until the thing with the jaw happened. Its not fair man.
>>4885658Not all rat snakes, but things like bamboo rats will die if it gets much hotter than 80F and are better kept at like 60-70
>>4885786>>4885810>>4885816You forgot simply biting the shit out of an attackerhttps://youtu.be/8vw78RjsQ5I?si=yYyxg7zNEguOk6mc
>>4886168>bamboo ratsoh yeah trinkie bois (not literally a rat snake)
>>4886129I've always found it cute and fascinating how much snakes drink. I guess it just seems like the smartest and most deliberate thing they do. Whereas they hunt they just get possessed by a hungry spirit or something idk
So if I were to hypothetically have a mite infestation in my mealworm culture, how would I hypothetically prevent them from spreading all over the place or eradicate them entirely, also if this happened I would have already placed the culture on top of a tray of diatomaceous earth.Asking for a friend.
>>4886225get mites that eat mites>tiptopbiocontrol.com/products/hypoaspis-miles-stratiolaelaps-scimitus
>always wanted to own a blue-eyed leucistic ball python, I just think they're adorable and I'd love to take care of one>look up videos>it's all fucking breeders talking about the animal as some sort of commodity to turn a profit>instant turn off
>>4886238These seem like a good idea, but then I'd need to worry about them wiping out my springtails. Though maybe my isopods would eat their eggs and it'll be a cute little ecosystem.
>>4886448You have isopods and springtails in with your mealworms?
I think my answer to what would /herp/ do with a big heated greenhouse/yard would be a crocodillian/s of some kind, sheer volume of space notwithstanding they seem much more suited to captivity than monitors
I don't get why people are so afraid of snakes or think they're dangerous petsA ball python is even less dangerous than a fucking dog or cat, all they can really do is bite you and it's not like they actually even do that unless you intentionally piss them off
>>4886672No, I'm just concerned about them or their eggs accidentally getting mixed in with the mealworms when I feed them out.
>>4886969And in the rare event that a BP does bite you, it's going to be a hell of a lot less damaging than a dog bite.
>>4886969>don't get why people are so afraid of snakesCultural retardation
>>4886990pain tier>0: bite from a normal dog (a bruise)>1: minor cat scratch (holy shit one drop of blood)>2: ball python bite (a scrape)>3: angry cat scratch (i can see my dermis!)>4: cat bite (i'm how likely to lose my hand now?)>5: bite from a severely provoked or abused and punished dog (one bottle of penicillin, doc)>8: pitbull bite (come back, you fucking pasty bitch, i want your face on camera for when i sue you for the loss of most motor control in my left arm)
>>4887115There's also that fun little part of our ape brain that flips it's shit when it sees a snake. Which I think is probably what created said cultural retardation.
>>4887144>>4: cat bite (i'm how likely to lose my hand now?)'Old on now, what?
>>4887147Cat bites are extremely deep, narrow wounds and most mammalian carnivores including humans have nasty shit in their saliva. With cats and dogs, one specific microbe in their saliva rapidly causes sepsis. The wound is so narrow it closes up as the tooth withdraws, trapping those infectious microbes in an ideal environment, similar to as if you let your dog lick a deep cut, and then bandaged over the drool (people have lost limbs from this as well). Severe dog bites are more open so they're about the mechanical damage, but cat severe bites are more likely to result in infection and amputation down the line.
>>4887147An cat bite can unironically cause severe damage if you get unlucky, my relative got bit so hard straight through the palm once by my aunt's psycho cat she got hospitalized for a couple days and her hand swelled to twice its size. I don't know the actual science but their cute little mouths are petri dishes for biological warfare. Most cat bites won't fuck you up like that but it's always a risk.
>>4887146There was some study or some shit at one point that pointed out actual monkies have a heightened awareness of snakes when spotted, but necessarily a theatrical screaming fit at the sight of a grass snake
>we will never get GMO caimans that stay baby sized forever
>>4887522This, but with Alligator snapping turtles.
I've a tortoise unexpectedly spending the night here because the person who was originally supposed to pick him up and drive to a herp rescue got an emergency work call and by the time I could go get him it was already quite late, so that's why he's in this absolutely embarrassing setup thrown together in a 150 x 80ish cm pond basin I still had lying around. Luckily it's only until tomorrow morning, and he does at least have some minimal space, heat, UVB, fresh greens and water.He has a bit of a whistle while breathing and from what I can see he could use a minor beak trim, but he instantly went to town on his veggies which I guess is a good sign. Sorry for the blog post but I never had a tortoise in my house and I just think he's a pretty cute dude and I hope he gets a nice forever home. I don't have the proper space left myself to provide an enclosure big enough, sadly.
How long could a small aquatic salamander go without eating?I have a family trip in-the-making that's going to last anywhere from 14-18 days. Assuming the little nigga is situated in an aquarium at a constant 70-degrees F and I feed him one medium earthworm (the only shit he eats) the day I'm leaving, will it last him until I get back?
THEY FINALLY HAD SEXAdded some proper egg crate to the dubia box and one of the cells of egg carton had a female surrounded by like 8+ tiny babies all huddled togethernow to wait another year for them to grow up
Also, why does everyone always say you SPECIFICALLY must put the eggcrate vertically and not horizontally? They only ever say it's so frass falls to the bottom of the bin but I don't want them crawling on the bottom of the bin, it's plastic, it's hard for them to move around, and I dont wanna keep another paper towel clean and undestroyed over on that side that I'd have to pull out all the housing to adjust/clean.
>>4888016You fingerblasting their cloaca's doesn't count as sex
>>4888016Just make sure your male count isn't too high or you may see those little fellas disappear, mine weren't breeding for months until I culled some of the males, then it was instant nymphs everywhere all the time.
>>4887977Most herps can at least survive for like a month without eating. Provided you make sure he eats right before you leave, and he isn't already underweight, he should be alright, but be prepared to give him a little extra food for a bit after.Source: I'm guessing, never took care of an aquatic salamander, other anons may have better answers.
>>4887977can't you catch/buy some live daphnia or copepods and put them into the tank? if it gets hungry enough it might stop being picky
>>4888115I've been thinking about killing one of the males desu, 3 seems like way too many for the amount of adults i have
>>48881641 adult male to 7 adult females is a good ratio. You can go with even lower males, but going lower than 1:10 can allegedly cause issues too. Juvies apparently don't trigger the male "kill every nymph I see because I'm horny" response.
>>4888172im not sure i even have 7 adult femalesi killed one and i felt really bad, i shouldn't have looked at its face trying to aim at its headI was going to say I wish I had something big enough to eat adults because it would make me feel less bad but I realized the other roaches are the thing big enough to eat an adult so there's really no issue
>>4888173Do yourself a favor and freeze them. That's the only way I can do it, and even that makes me feel a little bad. What even eats adult dubias? I feel like you'd need something like a tegu for that.
>>4888178dedicated roach disposal pyxi
>>4888178I was under the impression adults were a staple for beardiesEither mine are a runt stock or they're really not as big as they look on youtube
>>4888180They could just be a little small (not something to worry about, they could just have roachlet genes) but some of my males get 2 inches long.>>4888179Actually not a bad idea, honestly.
>>4888118I think I'll do just that: feed him more than usual leading up to my departure date. He just turned 1 not too long ago since I first found him and I'd be really upset to come back only to find him gone for good.>>4888162I've tried conditioning him to other foods, but he's picky and very non-aggressive nor territorial. He lives in a tank with shrimp and doesn't so much as twitch at them unless they're stealing his worm.It probably has to do with his sheltered upbringing from me catching him as a tiny larval salamander with the gills and all.
>>4881506the reptiles canada site is dead and their facebook page hasn't had a post in a year
>>4888173They either devoured his body and left no trace within one night or he flipped himself over and returned to the house waiting to die as a headless walking corpsemetal
Noooooo they're so cute
>>4888538bro it doesn't even have eyes
>>4886133I killed the poor little mourning gecko with the deformed jaw today. She was a gooner, was becoming more thin and weak every day. today i could catch her without problems, something that shouldnt happen with thant kind of lizard. At first i wanted to freeze her, but i wanted a natural death, so i fed her to one of my albino clawed frogs. she was gone in five seconds. freezuing her would have been equally cruel and i didnt want to crush her head or something similar. fuck. all my hopes are now laid on the last egg i have and potential other eggs in the main enclosure that still holds the healthy adult one.
>>4888538You get used to it. Appreciate the little bugger's sacrifice, and take comfort in the fact that it died in relative peace and comfort.
>>4888788parthenogenesis isnt foolproof sadly, these things happen. In the future I'd probably immediately euthanise any geckos with an immediately apparently defect, the last thing you want is it making copies.
>>4888788you don't want a gooner diluting their gene pool
sleepy frogs
>>4888826
My mind was blown when I realized lizards slither even though they have legs and snakes barely changed it when they lost them
Where do people get frozen mice?
>>4888854I pick mine up in bulk at reptile expos and that usually lasts me, like 20 bucks for half a year or more worth of mice.But other than that you could find them at a lot of mainstream pet stores. Then there are online options, but I haven't looked into any of that.
>>4888894Mice is always the hiccup when I think about getting a snake because on top of the fact that Im pretty sure none of my nearby pet stores even sell them, I don't want a food source I can't breed myself, and on top of that I don't want to support a pet store to get the food Im not breeding myself, so tyI'll look into reptile expos but Im pretty sure there basically aren't any where I live.Is that 6 month bag gargantuan? My freezer's pretty small and my roommates wouldn't want me using the public freezer for dead animals (completely unaware of what meat is).
If leaves and bark are staples of wild cockroach diets, why do people never give them to their feeders?
>>4888932why bother when you can gutload them more efficiently? wild roaches don't have a wide assortment of fruits and veggies readily available
>>4888854>>4888894>>4888897I use big cheese rodents. Shipping is kinda rough (almost as much as the mice itself) but two 50 packs of fuzzies (which both fit comfortably inside a gallon freezer bag) will last me more than half a year. Even with the shipping it's still cheaper than the local petshops, big box or otherwise.
>>4888935Costs nothing, infinite amount of it, provides housing and enrichment, maintains heat and humidity in addition to foodPeople always say the fact that feeders aren't eating their natural diet is why you have to supplement calcium and other vitamins because aside from the lack of insect variety the insects we do feed aren't getting what they'd get in the wild to provide everything to the animalwhy not bother?
>>4888960Also doesn't mold and lasts forever
>>4888935>>4888932>>4888960keep in mind gutloading is different than feeding. Gutloading is basically just filling up a feeder with stuff you want in your lizard, the actual nutrition content with relation to the feeder is irrelevant. Shit, it could even be POISONOUS to the feeder and it wouldnt matter because you're basically just making a little motile ravioli for your pet.I think it's ALSO important to remember that "natural" doesnt necessarily mean "optimal." Still, it's worth experimenting with I think -maybe try a bioactive roach enclosure and see where that gets you.pre-rotted wood mighht be hard to find though, so getting that started might prove difficult.
>mom "gifted" sulcata tortoise from coworker>a baby tortoise allegedly>inspect her at home>mild to moderate pyramiding and quite big in size>have to scramble and learn everything about desert tortoises because my mom thinks a heat lamp is all he needs>buy a bunch of shit UVB/Calcium/Food, etcI know it's not much but I tried my best. Tomorrow I'm gonna pick up some leafy greens for him to monch on. I got some Mazuri LS and I've been feeding him that topped with calcium powder. Also going to create a little ramp to the new saucer I got her. I'm completely new to this so all advice and tips would be greatly appreciated.
>>4889005He needs, like, 10x that space, minimum. If he ends up a larger sulcata you need much more than that - they can get to 3ft across and 200lbs of basically living rock. One of those bad boys needs a roughly 40x40ft outdoor space to act content, though with a tort it's hard to tell because it's going to try and destroy everything regardless.Generally torts don't do well in glass; they don't understand it and so ignore it and just walk against it trying to get through, for literally decades. Where do you live, somewhere that having it outside is plausible? In general they do best in big outdoor enclosures with wooden bottoms sunk into the ground - usually called a tortoise table. If that's not feasible, then build as big of a wooden table as you feasibly can, fill it with as deep of substrate as is plausible, and treat it like an indoor arid garden with a live-in bulldozer.
>>4889135Yea, we definitely have the land. I'm going to speak to her tomorrow and see if we can plot where it'll go, otherwise I'll have to try and convince her to give him back. The last thing I want is for him to be neglected under our watch. Also, how the hell are they so popular if they get so big?
>>4889149Turtles start life the size of coins and take decades to grow to full size
>lizard hates mistingIs there any way I can improve the experience so he's not spooked out of his sleep spot by the big loud water demon that is totally gonna come in whenever the door is open and the giant creature so I should hide whenever he's around other than buying a 200 dollar mistking that will probably still spook him from the water touching himHe has a hide but he doesn't use it, he sleeps under a little awning with his head sticking out and hides in the corner behind a big branch and some plant cover
>>4889149>how are they so popularHardy, easy to keep alive, and people are retarded. I'd guess that well over 90% of turtles and tortoises in homes are poorly kept.If you do outside, make sure you have a solution for if it gets too cold out. Freezing is one sure way to lose a tort.
>>4889160animals get spooked out of their sleep, your only other is to do during the waking hours and color code when youre doing it so he knows the giant is misting, reptiles generally learn pavlovian responses to cues, and color seems to work
>>4889149people think reptiles are either "cheap" and/or "disposable" pets, or are easy, like gold fish or hermit crabs, because theyre like a "lesser" animal than mammals and maybe birds, its like narcissism or mild levels of psychopathy or something. theyre getting a pet because its flight of fancy, exoticism, or its trendy, rather than a commitment and autism
>>4889171I've tried showing him the misting bottle beforehand but he sleeps faving the back of the tank, and even if he's basking while I spray he still just doesn't like the water :cAnd I cant just not spray around him cause he's always near the bromeliads that need watering :c
>>4889174I was talking to the one lady at my pet store that actually cared about animals beyond owning a dog and to paraphrase something she said a customer told her he didn't want the goldfish he was buying to live more than a yearI used to think asians and third worlders were the ones who were psychopathically indifferent to animals but idk
>>4888992I agree that natural doesn't equal better, but given the fact that we (should) feed the roaches a big variety of nutritious fruits and vegetables, and the answer to why we need to supplement is STILL "the insects aren't getting their natural diet" I'd think the solution would be to replicate their natural diet more, no?
With how absurdly fast and vibrantly colorful day geckos are, it's surprising just how hard they'll commit to "I'm a leaf i'm a leaf i'm a leaf i'm a leaf i'm a leaf i'm a leaf i'm a leaf i'm a leaf i'm a leaf i'maleafi'maleafi'maleafi'maleafi'maleafi'maleafi'maleaf"
>>4889216right, but what EXACTLY is their natural diet? Sure, "rotten wood and decaying plant matter" but that doesnt mean they can get by with just some damp lignans and cellulose, right? There's a BUNCH of stuff going on in a rotting woodpile; funguses and mosses and bacteria and larval insects. That's probably where they're getting their nutrition, and that's gonna be tough to replicate, in much the same way we have to supplement our reptiles because THEY aren't getting the full variety in their wild diet.
>>4889264I mean sure, but they're so low investment I still don't see a reason not to offer them., the same way some people will put a substrate of oats
>>4889271worth a shot certainly. leaf is at least easier/more biosecure to procure than rotting wood, and if you're most of the united states, you can just go outside and fill a trashbag full of leaf litter from any of a number of different varieties. Shit, with a elbow grease and some initiative people will PAY YOU to take it.
>>4888897>Is that 6 month bag gargantuanSo it depends on the snake. I have a sand boa to feed so I basically need a hopper/small mouse every two or so weeks. In my case I'm able to fit the bag in a little shitty mini freezer with plenty of room to spare.
>>4889355My day sometimes gets extremely energetic and bold whenever I open up his terrarium, he's even leaped right on my hand while doing it. Then other times he freezes up, gets scared, and refuses to leave his hiding spot simply because I walked in the room.Geckos are a special kind of autistic.
>>4889357Day Geckos at least have prey instincts. New Caledonias are next level autistic, particularly since they're so many captive generations deep at this point they're nearly domesticated.
>>4889355Missed "droops tail"
>>4889365how lewd!
>>4889359Even among Caledonians, Cresties are a special kind of retarded.I actually fear for the future of species considering we actively select for the stupidest of the breed because we perceive them as more tame
>>4889005Sulcatas a great pets
>>4889394I love the fact that these little living boxes just unironically instinctually crave destruction Like, does a single other animal just like breaking things and tearing down obstacles?
>>4889005
>BREACH!
>>4889426
It's hilarious how popular sulcatas are in the pet trade considering how woefully unprepared people are to take care of a fully grown sulcata. You can't even really keep them in your backyard unless you want your backyard to just be a network of sulcata burrows.
It shouldn't be surprising what's popular in the pet trade when the poster reptile that stores are stuffed to the gills with requires a 60 gallon+ enclosure with hard uvb, desert level temperatures inside that massive enclosure, and daily fresh organic salads with supplementationbut they named it a dragon so every single little boy wants one
>>4889176well asians are casually indifferent because of their societal norms, they slaughter animals all the time and people will give them money for doing it, which is something because a couple america dollars is a weeks worth of food for them. i think its worse in america because theyre doing it behind closed doors for their own ego, because then it ceases to be clout and attention, which is worse because they know better and should know better but actively and willingly dont do better
>>4889355My joomper is so god damn dumb I sometimes get scared I'm unknowingly abusing him because a creature can't possibly want to kill itself this badly right?? He will hurl himself into the void in the blink of an eye. When he does aim his jumps he does it very accurately, but he makes no effort to stick the landing; usually to put him away I just let him hop off my hand into the tank but he often just stares blankly at his favorite log for a moment before slamming into it face first and flopping to the ground, then getting back up like nothing happened and going about his day. He is great at holding onto things with his tail though, I'll give him that. He likes wrapping it around sticks and fingers and anything else that fits. I think he's genuinely fucked for life if he ever drops his tail, I've never seen a crestie that actually maneuvers with it as much as he does. I love my retarded little acrobat and he will always be my favorite herp even though he's my most "boring" one, but I won't know whether to laugh or cry when he dies some hamster-tier death by suffocating by forgetting to breathe or smashing his head open on the glass or something.
>>4889547Record him using his tail pls
>Northern Blue Tounge Skink>Chinese King Rat Snake>Western Banded Gecko>Pixie Frog>Arizona Blonde TarantulaMan I have a lot of mouths to feed and asses to inspect now.
>dubias spend a full month pregnanti guess that explains why they've looked so fat for so long
One of my darklings is dead of what I assume to be old age and I still haven't seen a single mealworm ; ;
Aughhhhhhhhhh I hate these little fucking niggers. Flying at my screen 24/7 is bad enough but now the bitches are trying to crawl into my drinks. Theirs not even and mold or fungus for them to be living on so how the fuck are they doing it? I never see their larva when I dig through my substrates so I have no idea how they're even existing.
>>4890604LOOK AT ITS LITTLE MOLE HANDS
i wish i could gutload black soldier flies, my gecko's gotten really good at catching them
Watching geckos hunt is one of life's few joys
>Frass on the bottom of the bin is OK. Frass on cardboard often leads to moisture build-up, which you should avoid.What? Why? What's the difference??
This man's confidence is so fucking big. He legit doesn't give a shit what is trying to eat him he Just minds his own business.
>>4890779Moisture evaporates quicker when it's frass and bare plastic, when it's on cardboard, it absorbs the moisture and the frass acts as a little insulation layer to lock the moisture in.
>>4890938Don't banded geckos live in tarantula burrows?
>>4891042You think either of them know that?
>climbs cork all the way up like a retard>can't get down>waits for me to give him a hand
>>4891709forgot pic
>>4891710lilmans craves the UP, you should toss the fake/ass vine that's not doing anything but adding color and put some ledges in
>>4891710cool cave gecko morph, looks kinda fat though
Yep I'm done with crickets, I got some 3/4ths and I'm not getting anymore after this. They're too big, they make noise, they stink like crazy, they're too hard to catch. Mr Alister the banded Gecko better start liking Dubias because that's all he's gonna eat from now on. If I don't get ride of them all by monday / if they're not all dead I'm gonna dump them in my neighbors yard because fuck that guy.
Finally moved my day gecko to his permanent enclosure.
>>4892097looks nice!
>>4892097Looks nice! A lot of those plants are usually seen as aquatic plants, no? I think I see Java Fern and Anubias.Plus, if I'm naming plants, cast iron, pothos (duh), a comble Broms (not going to try and name them, but one is blooming?), and no idea what's top left.
>>4892126>>4892128Thanks, he seems to not want to touch the cocofiber at the moment, but he'll probably get over himself.And bright green guy in the back is a birds nest fern, all of the mounted guys are broms (not sure of the exact species on each), two varieties of pothos on the ledge, and you can't really see them that well, but there are a few lucky bamboo plants growing in the substrate, one of which is a cutting from a super old one I have as a houseplant, it hasn't taken root yet, but it still seems healthy enough.
>>4892097>>4892194>pothos
If this is /herp,/ what thread would be /aderp?/
Ok, it's around when I buy insects but I can't haven't been able to because of holidays, and I have a rotting banana in the fridgehe WILL lick food from my hand
>spider set up shop on the floor rim of the cabinet I keep the lizard tank onI don't lose THAT many crickets >:(
>>4893003I've started to freeze my feeding bananas, I hate how quickly they rot
>>4893114they want them rotten though
I FUCKING FOUND A BABY MEALWORMIT TOOK SO FUCKING LONG I GAVE UP ON THEMTHE DUBIAS WILL BE NEXTWE WILL BE SELF SUFFICIENTWE WILL NO LONGER GIVE THE PET STORE MONEY EXCEPT FOR OCCASIONALLY BUYING CRICKETS OR SOLIDER FLIES LIKE ONCE A MONTH OR SO BECAUSE THEY'RE MORE ENRICHING TO HUNT THAN GETTING FOOD IN A BOWLI AM GOD, CREATOR OF LIFE
>>4894175you WILL occasionally have to freshen up the gene pool of your feeders or else they're literally inbreed themselves to death, but good to hear anon.
>>4894175I felt like a mother when I saw my dubia colonys first brood of nymphs.
>>4894199don't insects need a refresh like, once a year at most
>>4894199>>4894481I honestly haven't added new blood to my fruit fly culture in like 3 years, I haven't seen any issues.
I always thought inbreeding just solved itself after enough generations because unless you specifically designate a single line to breed back to over and over individuals will just naturally become less related to each other over time, like how any species recovers from a bottleneck
>>4894481I have no idea on the timeline, I just remember back when I watched exotics lair that he had to periodically refresh the gene pool of his dubia colonies when he noticed the population lagging, and if he didnt it would just nosedive. that said I have no idea what his care/feeding regiment is like (starting male/f ratio, preferential feeding based on the sex of the roach, etc) so he very well could have had a hand in that happening and blamed it on inbreeding.>>4894576>>4894587I imagine that once you get to a large enough population it isnt as much of a problem, and with smaller bugs (fruit flies, springtails) it's easier to get to that number. Sure, EVENTUALLY everyone's related, but that relation is so diltued down that the deleterious genes dont have as big a chance to assert themselvesSemi-related, but two years ago I ditched all of the substrate, scrubbed all of the enclosure decor with hot soap and water, and then moved everything into a completely different enclosure and somehow still have a thriving isopod and springtail population. I have no idea how ANY of the little fuckers survived but there couldnt have been very many left, and yet there they are.
Question for anyone with experience…I’m in the planning process of a new enclosure. I don’t want to just glue in cork or some other premade background and I’m not creative enough to carve my own out with pink board. Also don’t want the hassle of having to paint/drylok it.The enclosure on order is pvc and I planned on using coco coir on the sides. I’m not 100% on the process though. Do I just coat the sides with silicone and press it in, or will that not hold up well over time? Expanding foam first then silicone over that? I would also like to attach some pieces of slate and cork rounds to the walls. What is the proper way to go about that? Do I silicone those to the pvc first and use expanding foam under them for support? Or do I just press them into the expanding foam without the silicone? Should I be doing the coco coir walls first then adding the slate/wood on top of that or will it hold better on the bare pvc?
>>4894616You can also seperate colonies, recombine them, etc. Literally just take one crateslab from 2 colonies and exchange them, the 2 will have seperated genetically to some degree depending on how long they've been apart
>>4894679Spray foam and gorilla glue are two varieties of the same thing. So if you don’t let the foam cure before you apply the coir, you shouldn’t need additional adhesive. And if you do let it dry, I recommend gorilla glue over silicone because it will adhere better to the foam for chemical reasons.
Born angry
>>4894679this may be close to what you're looking for.www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzuIOWERIhAsome notes:>splurge on the black foam because if any of the coir/spahgnum moss falls off/doesnt coat well it wont look as bad as the white shit poking through, which looks like dogshit. >spend as much time preparing all of your stuff beforehand as you possibly can because the foam starts curing basically immediately. the sooner you get the dirt one the better it'll adhere. You will need to work fast. maybe do a dry run to make sure you get your process down.the coco coir needs to be BONE. FUCKING. DRY. Silicone and expanding foam BOTH cure via exposure to water, so if it's not completely dry it wont stick, and you'll have to peel the failed foam off and start from square one.>you will need more then you think. of everything. better to have some extra for later then to be sitting there with your thumb up your ass with your shit half-done.>go to a hardware store and get like a 2x2 corrugated plastic sheet, (should be like 10 bucks), and do a test panel so you get an idea of how it looks. If you REALLY like it you can silicone that into the enclosure and foam around it (or cut it to size if it's a small enclosure), just make sure you seal off the holes in the coroplast or the bugs WILL crawl into them and die.
>>4894901me on the left
>>4894961Oh thanks for that. I had no idea you did BOTH silicone and foam. Glass vs pvc doesn’t make a difference in the process?My walls are going to be 4’x6’ so I doubt I can get it all done in one go. I assume it doesn’t hurt anything doing it in sections after one part has cured?As for bone dry.. Are those blocks that they come in considered bone dry? I know last time I tried breaking one apart it was a dusty nightmare
>>4895218Shouldnt really, the silicone is pretty much just for texture / a little better adherence to the background. Doing it in chunks shouldn't matter that much either, just make sure the patches you make are irregular shapes so you dont see any obvious tiling.As for the coco coir, I know what you mean concerning the bricks, I made hides out of an amalgamation of silicone and coco coir (pic related) and the last time I tried from a dry brick and it was a fucking mess. Its a more laborious but your best bet is to reconstitute the brick with as little water as possible, then spread it out as thin as you possibly can and let it dry out. You could also bake it in small batches at like 250 Fahrenheit for 20 minutes or so (mixing often to make sure the moisture isnt trapped underneath the dry crust) but with the amount youre gonna need for an enclsoure that size, youre basically going to be running your oven all day.
>>4895266Quick note on the hide thing, by "amalgamation of silicone and coco coir" I dont mean "spread silicone and then coated in coir," I mean completely mixed the silicone into the coor until it resembled a slightly sticky clay, then molded it around a form, in this case a square deli container, then coated THAT in the reamining coir." If you have patches of bare foam Id actually recommend that instead if coating it in silicone and slapping coco coir on it. Its thicker, sturdier, and wont have any bare spots of silione because there is no bare silicone.
>>4895271Interesting. Thanks for the info
Hello I was at my local exotic pet store and I never really thought about owning a snake before but I'm starting to find ribbon snakes incredibly cute and they're so small. Are they hard to keep? Fwiw I own a bearded dragon and 30+ tarantulas. Can they stay in small enclosures. Do they need a lot of stimulation (I know little of snakes except they need stimulation and large enclosures)
>>4895329Idk about ribon snakes but i always let my feller out and about for like a half hour before i go to bed. Are they awake during day or night?
>>4895329A SINGLE second of looking at a single google search would have told you that a ribbon snake is a fancy name to try to sell you a garter snake
>>4895351>they're actually not related at allI LOVE that google just LIES to you now
>>4895354>they're actually in the same genus
>>4895509Lizard feet are truly strange
If darklings can breed in a box of oats, surely you could keep a colony in a vivarium since they clearly don't have the specific care requirements of other beetles to pupate properly?Could you cohabitate mealworm beetles and superworm beetles? People always mention darklings playing very nice with other insects
>>4895329Wouldnt recommend ribbons over garters, ribbons are mostly aquatic and tend to be a little pickier with what they eat. the basic garter locality are nearly identical though in appearance, though, and there are a shitload of really crazy localties in garters that change up the appearance a great deal. Garters are great though. VERY active (they climb, swim, dig, they whole nine) so they'll need a larger enclosure then their smaller size might imply. Some localities/subspecies get pretty big, too, but males are typically a bit smaller than females. Also wouldnt recommend freeroaming on a smaller snake, they can disappear pretty quickly, and snakes aren't like your beardie, if they cram themselves somewhere out of reach you're probably not going to be able to coax them out with food.
what's with glass box makers and specifically making their glass boxes 18 inches long no matter how big the length and height are
>>4895866I can think of a few reasons just based on my experiences.1) home gamer aquarists arent really keeping anything that would require more than that much along the (I guess) Z axis in order to comfortably turn around, and the ones that do are probably getting their shit made custom.2) shipping. despite all our technological advancements it's still tough as shit to ship glass and have it end up in one piece on the other side. I've worked in the tech field for close to about 20 years now and in that time I'd say about 10% of tvs and monitors arrive to their destinations cracked. even little shitty 16 inch monitors. Now, insead of just having ONE sheet of glass along one axis that you have to worry about, you have FIVE sheets along all three axes. The larger the tank, the more space to ship it (meaning you cant ship as many), the heavier it is, the more your risk it breaking in shipment.Take the Serpa Pill. make the tanks you wish to see in the world. If you can find a local place that does it you could probably even get tempered glass cut to a custom size and spend less than you would on a store-bought.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ir4kHioCSM0
Hello Everyone I have an announcement.*AHEM* FROG MONOLITA! that is all.
FUCKING EAT HIM YOU STUPID BITCH
>>4895920
>ripped out of your nice warm enclosure that gives you energy>put in a tiny plastic cup exposed to the entire world while the giant ape that grabbed you stares at you angrily>there's a bug that's too big for you to eat next to youwould you eat in this situation?
>>4895923That roach is fucking massive dude, how do you expect him to swallow it
>>4895923the feeder rule of thumb is "no longer than the space between their eyes" not "as big as their head." cut that fucking dubia into thirds and maybe then they'll go for it.
Where can I get a dominican red mountain boa I can't find them anywhere
>>4895942>>4895952He ate crickets bigger then that so I thought he'd be fine.
>>4884330>>4884332you can do calcium dishes but its less gauranteed they get it in, you can however easily dust vegetables theres literally no reason not to other than normie retardation.
>>4886988good concern
>>4888021cause of mold
>>4888178freezing is even more painful and you are a coward that shouldnt take care of anything
>>4896005That’s a good way to cause prolapse or blockages in baby geckos. Crickets especially have a solid, hard to digest head which can cause an obstruction if it’s too big a cricket for too small a gecko
>>4896061He's not a baby, he's a juvenile but I get what you mean.
Since birds are reptilesThere's a Hawk that has decided to live near my houseFound a dead rabbit all ripped to pieces on the lawn last week, saw it chasing one to the hole in the fence they go under a few days laterJust a minute ago I heard a kerfuffle and it was in my back yard attacking a small bird behind my bbq and then came to rest in a tree above my houseIt's cool and everything but are the neighborhood pets in danger and do I need to "deal with it" if you catch my drift? I don't want it to steal my pugHe's fat so probably fine but I'm not sure about the neighbors Yorkies
>>4896194I should mention too I have a snake I like to put outside on warm days to get some UV but I won't be doing that anymore
>>4896194>>4896196So yeah DEFINITELY don't let your snake outside, hawks love some spaghetti. But if you want my opinion, just spread the word of the hawk and make sure your neighbors know to keep their small pets on leashes, and for them to stay near them to discourage it from swooping down.I'd exercise caution with your pug too, though you're probably right about him being too fat, better safe than sorry.No need to kill the hawk, if a pet owner is attentive, it'll be no threat.
>>4896194it's so obvious you just want to shoot a bird and everyone to think you're a big strong man for doing so
>>4896237I really don't want to shoot a bird at all, I like them very much but if my aunts bichon gets eaten she'll actually kill herself
>>4896261You can try to call FWC and they might come relocate it. Also instead of killing it you could just harass it. Spray it's nest with the hose, or scare it off whenever you get the chance. It might just take the hint and run away.
>>4896032honestly freezing probably isnt all that bad for an animal with such a small thermal mass. For something like snakes or frogs, yeah, it's horrific since their extremities cool down and ice up before the rest of their body can, but for a roach that process would happen considerably faster. Considering also that they dont really have "brains" in the way that more complex creatures do and instead have a series of neural ganglia distributed throughout their body, destruction of the head isnt really a guaranteed instant death either. maybe something faster than cold air, like submersion in supercooled water or ethanol. or maybe the other way around, hot sand. I once saw a fly bonk into a heating element in a warming cabinet as it was buzzing around and INSTANTLY drop dead, maybe sand that's been heated to like 450 F in an oven?
Unironically cook and eat your extra bugs.
>>4896274shoo, klaus.
>>4881506I was going to post this on the dog thread but I think it fits here better, my turtle is active once again and besides being a total asshole, the usual, is now eating the food of my new dog, so my question is how good or bad is that for the turtle, I mean, the turtle seems to love the food(and make my dog angry lmao), and I don't see anything that might indicate a problem but google tells me is wrong...
>Should my herbivorous animal eat this processed food made of cereal grains and animal cartilage instead of its salads?
>>4896303>insteadShe eats her salads alright, still go eat the dog food... a most precise question would be, how bad would it be for the turtle to eat that sometimes, taking in count the layout of the house this would need some major fixing if it is THAT bad.
>>4896324>too high a protein intake could cause gout. you do not want to have to treat gout. Get an elevated bowl the turt cant reach.
>>4896124its the same thing if the feeders oversized
>mealworms, known for being voracious monsters that eat anything and everything, even plastic>leave the potato skins>darklings, notorious cannibals that have to be separated from their children lest they devour them all>won't even nibble on other dead darklings
>>4896572>>darklings, notorious cannibals that have to be separated from their children lest they devour them allOh. Oops.
>>4896578If you're autistic about MAXIMUM PRODUCTION then yes you should keep them seperate (it's actually easy it just takes more space) but all they do is mate all day long so it really doesn't matter unless you're an animal hoarder or selling them.
Will a superworm really just never pupate if it's not locked in a little chamber with no food?
>>4896641if they lack the conditions needed to pupate, they wont pupate. Shouldnt be all that surprising, most bugs that have a larval stage spend the majority of their lives as larvae.
>>4896270just crush the thing, 100% gaurantee of death and doesnt get quicker
>>4896572what the fuck are you talking about
>just cleaned a large aquarium to ready it for glowy plankton>walking to get mail>emaciated snake ran out of the HVAC unit because I was getting repair on it>Just sitting there, cold, hungry >doesn't have the energy to run from me>pick it up and place in aquarium, set up extra heat mat>immediately drinks and soaks>first feeding had to be assisted>looks at me with its one good eye (the other is badly fogged and may be blind) in this extremely confused way>resting now after I had to help massage the food down the esophagus (not too far, just problems swallowing from weakness)Forgive me, I've sinned.I couldn't just let it die.
>>4897051there's a world of difference between rescuing an animal that's near death and nursing it back to health and removing an ostensibly health individual from the wild. There's nothig to forgive.Shit, toss half a raw chicken strip in your yard and you won't even have deprived another animal of a meal.
>>4896837NTA but it seems pretty simple "my bugs are not eating what I expected they would"as for >>4896572, lots of plants have adapted shit to make bugs NOT want to eat them, and we've done quite a bit to our crops to ensure that as well - how certain are you that those potato skins arent treated with some manner of insect repellant?
>>4897051This>>4897081You're based, anon. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise.
>>4897098I exclusively feed my insects organic produce from the cushy health food store I work atThey eat healthier than I do
>>4897163maybe they just dont like tubers? no really something they'd encounter all that much I imagine.
>>4897178that's the interesting thing, they LOVE sweet potatoes. I use it as a "when in doubt" because it's the first thing I've seen actually get eaten quickly (the dubias really like them too) aside from the classic mealworm carrot. They just leave the skins like a bunch of picky babies.Maybe as their numbers grow they won't have as much of a chance to be fussy eaters.
>>4897163I need to feed organic. One time I just threw some apple cores in with my mealworms just not thinking about it. Next day every single darkling was dead. Must have been some sort of super gmo, it was actually impressive honestly.
>>4897411>thinking gmo was the problemRetard
>>4897421Enlighten me. Figured it couldn't be pesticides since it was all internal
>>4897462retardbro...
I wonder if without the threat of predation, less photophobic insects will get selected for over time due to them getting more food, leading to a more diurnal and observable population over generations.And yes I am just invertposting here instead of that thread.
>>4897462Dont apple seeds contain arsenic?
>>4897604Mealworms are never going to crunch through an apple seed.Fruits' skin and peels are porous because its the skin of a living thing and that's just how biology works. Pesticides are absolutely getting onto the inside, every single time they're sprayed. This is on top of most commercial farms and greenhouses just giving absolutely 0 fucks and spraying their plants with as much if not more pesticides than water. Pesticides that are designed to be long-lasting, that you're not washing off with water, because if that was how it worked, they'd lose their investment every time they watered or it rained.
My college has thousands of dried leaves spread throughout the campus. How would I go about removing any potential pesticides or weed killer from them?
>>4897620Makes sense. Not sure why I didn't consider that.
Reptiles are so boring, I don't understand how I'm not bored of them after all this time. I would sit and watch my lizards do fuckall for 12 hours a day if I could.
>>4897661I've realized lately that sitting around doing fuckall is life's natural state and "wasting time" was made up by slave owners (employers)The only time you've wasted is time you've convinced yourself you've wasted. A lizard will spend TWELVE HOURS sitting in a dark hole because something spooked it that morning. You know why everyone thinks zoos are dumb and boring at literally any time other than lunch? Because animals spend (or would rather spend) 80% of their lives doing fuckall. Sitting inside a hole if they're a small animal. An animal considers a new smell entering their environment a big event, a new texture to touch something interesting. They live completely in the moment at all times and most of those times they choose to just sit there feeling the world with their senses. Some of the most valuable time you can spend with a loved one is just sitting there touching each other and not saying anything.Something about meditation, naturewalks, sitting out under the stars, etc etc. Life is both a sacred blessing and also a completely worthless throwaway nothing that every animal on the planet completely wastes sitting around farting and scratching themselves. Because that's what you're supposed to do with it.
>>4897625wash with warm soapy water. rinse thoroughly (enough so that you no longer smell the soap). soak in bleach for 15 minutes, rinse thoroughly (until you no longer smell the bleach) boil for 20-30 minutes, replace water and let sit for 30 minutes. place in oven. cook at 200 F until dry.if those combined actions dont eliminate any contaminants, you wouldnt be able to eliminate it.
How to tell when superworms are ready to pupate?
>>4897081>>4897143I have an update.She's alive and gaining energy. I was worried about two swollen sections on thr bottom third but after documenting with a tape measurer, found that they are moving towards the vent. I was worried there was a mn impaction or worse, eggbound.She is taking regular soaks which may imply it was actually constipation.I found minor traces of stool so I am hoping this means the soaks are working.She only has one good eye and I was able to ascertain gender with my snake proves. The other eye appears to have been wounded.I won't lie, I want to keep her. Picrel is her, lighting in my room is all LED control and I have acquired photosensitivity from working nights so much.
>put mealworm in oatmeal>digs down instantly>put it in terrarium>won't dig, sits on the leaf litter>buy cheapo black earth thats not fancy, shouldnt be covered in -icides>put mealworm in>won't dig, walks around on the surfaceis there ANY dirt left that's not poison
>>4897954>neither mealworms or darkling beetles actually live underground, they just hide under things during the day and love digging in oatmeal specifically for some reasonfascinating
>>4897959I imagine it's like digging in a ballpit, but every ball is also a giant chicken nugget. The more you dig the more you get to eat.
>>4897991makes me wonder if they'll actually enjoy (in their limited insect way) a natural vivarium less than a box of oatsThankfully I overreacted and my terrarium mealworms were actually all fat and energetic despite my never seeing any evidence of them touching any of the carrots, with one (1) isopod in there for good measureBut I spent the 3 dollars on the dirt either way so they can dig their way out of a new big layer of it if they want more of themI have no clue how such helpless creatures survive in the wild if they're not underground though, they seem to actually like crawling around on wood crevices and I'm just thinking how does this not just instantly get you eatenOr how would they even reach food that's propped up on leaf litter and not stuck inside the substrate for them specifically, they're so small I'd think they couldn't reach anything to climb!adorable little grubs
>>4898004It's honestly a shame how cute some feeder insects are
>>4898083Name one feeder remotely as cute as dubias or darklings
>>4898117Okay to be fair those two are definitely at the top. But waxworms are sort of cute too, just fat little grubs
>>4897939More detailed pic on the lil girl
After putting a carrot into the superworm cup and seeing the feeding frenzy I thought they were a voracious monster version of mealworms that would need way more food, but now that they're in their oatmeal they really aren't eating that much more than the mealworms and now I just feel bad that they were that hungry at the store :c
Just caught a Daddy long legs from under my chair, I only noticed it because a piece of tissue had become part of it's web. Is there any harm in putting it in my snakes enclosure?
>Bro got his shit kicked in I'll let him live I feel bad lmao.
>>4897939>>4898363So keep her then. You're clearly giving her a better chance than a one-eyed snake would have outdoors, and you nursed her back to health. Snakes don't generally seem terribly unhappy in captivity, just give warm and food and water, sure beats dying slowly or starvation or infection, or brutally by predation.
>>4899042I saved a bluebelly on accident once from birds by just walking by. Threw him in the bushes. I saw him the next day basking. Hope he's alive still.
>dingo dinkleman diedI mean it sucks that his kids are without their father and all, and I'm sure he was a great guy, but like...if you deal with aerosolized snake venom enough that you develop a deadly alergy to it, then continue to fuck around with venomous reptiles, and then get tagged, go into anaphylactic shock and die, it is a LITTLE BIT your fault.
>>4899038they get sad if they're alone he needs friends
>>4899193He has an entire colony. The males are fighting. I need to cull them.
>>4899168Can’t believe he died but that Leibowitz cunt got to survive. This isn’t fair
>Nocturnal >Only needs a bit of heat, but does need it>Needs moist, deep substrateHow would I heat this
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>>4899656CHE on a thermostat for the most natural solution (night heat is just warm air, so IR-C). Also a thick background/sides for some additional insulation.Do note that CHEs get hot as FUCK so you'll need some protection (dome, cage if its inside the tank), and they also create a convective current that will draw in drier air, so watch your humidity.
>>4899656From above with a halogen or heat lamp, during the day. Use insulation to keep the heat loss to an acceptable level overnight.
I am once again asking how to tell when superworms are ready to pupate since every animal looks bigger in videos/photosI feel like doing the cup test before they're ready will just stress them out
I got one of those 40 gallon reptile starter kit terrariums that they sell in pet stores for 75% offWhat would you guys put in it? It basically came with everything except food
>>4899748find out how long it is, then see how long a reptile's max size is, then think about how long they'd be able to walk in a straight line through it
>>4899751It’s 36”x18”x18” if that helps
>>4899752now do the rest of what the post said
>>4899755But I don’t even know where to begin reeeee
>>4899748Bumblebee toads. Like, twenty of them.
>>4899756>won't do a single google searchunironically return the tank
>>4899758You could’ve at least given a suggestion, like this guy did: >>4899757idk why you’re being so difficult
>>4899757Thanks, the reptarium next to me actually do have these in stock
>>4899761Lucky, they've been hella hard to source for years. They're stupid easy if you put together a good bioactive (easy in a 40 gal), and cohabitate well. Diurnal, too.
>>4899763Do they interact with each other well?
>doesn't know what cohabitate means>can't put co and habitate together to figure out what cohabitate means
>>4899766They basically just ignore each other and don't interact in any way.
>>4899771I’ll probably just get a Schneider skink, thanks for the suggestion tho!
>>4899771god I love frogs
>>4899791
>superworms live for an entire year>superworm beetles can live for FIFTEEN FUCKING YEARSSo basically I should forget about trying to get them to pupate and just keep them well fed for a month or 2 at least
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For those experienced with New Cals, has anyone ever experienced an issue with their juveniles having difficulty walking? Difficult to describe, but this gargoyle gecko I picked up from a breeder 2 months ago suddenly, within the last week, seemed to develop this loss of manual dexterity. Each step appears to take significant effort to coordinate where to plant each foot. I'm afraid my vet visit today is going to result in only me coming back home.
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>>4897673>I've realized lately that sitting around doing fuckall is life's natural state and "wasting time" was made up by slave owners (employers)Based. I concluded the same. It's just psychological whip cracking from the goy drivers.
>>4897673"Supposed" is theistic bullshit. They sit around doing nothing because it's the most efficient use of resources and maximizes their chance to reproduce. Animals you see getting bored are those whose reproductive chances increase more by expending that energy in some way than by conserving it: dogs were bred to be useful, young predators gain net calories by practicing hunting, beavers need to maintain their lodges to survive, humans can trade work for goods and services and use those to attract a mate, etc.Rejecting one set of assigned values and replacing them with another is not based; it's pseud behavior.
