First for eye infections

>>5113672
Basset moment!

Just started working at a grooming salon, bathing and mini grooms mostly but working my way to groomer. Any other grooming anons out there that got any tips or anything? Not thing specific just general tips or even infographs would be appreciated
>Inb4 tell the dogs that they're mature for their age etc etc

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>move in with gf to save money
>???
>have to take care of a puppy now
This shit is so fucking ass I hate it, I can't believe I'm forced to do this. I'm going to break up after I find a place and get my finances in order

Lyft specifically states that it's pet friendly ride is for four people and one "well behaved animal". My dog can be reactive, but he's mainly a big cry baby when he's riding in a car. Will that be a problem when trying to Lyft with him? I don't want to find out when I actually need the Lyft

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>>5113678
Learn how to read dog behavior. Watch videos. Study them. Every dog is different and despite what people tell you, there are definitely breed expectations you can make. That also applies to how you groom -- you're not going to trim up a jack Russell like you would a Newfoundland. Plenty of breeds have specific physical traits you have to know about. Double coats, webbed toes, ear and leg feathers.

Pic is a 205lb male Newfie. Think about the logistics of a creature like this. It's basically cattle with 5 inches of double coated fur and the intelligence to ignore you on purpose. When we groomed him it took almost 9 hours.

>>5113867
Once it grows out of pissing and shitting every 2 hours you're going to love it.

>>5113867
Why are you bothering moving in with a foid if you don't want to take care of a baby creature?

>>5113922
How much did you charge for a 9 hour groom?

>>5114035
I think 650 or so. I wish I had an after picture, the big guy was unrecognizable. Newfs are rare but always a treat. No other breed is as consistently unbothered.

>>5114033
No rent
Plap plap plap plap

>>5114084
What?

>>5113642
Ive been working with K9s for 15 years. And I can say for a fact some dogs go straight to hell. We had a vet come to a kennel to put down an...there's no other way to describe it, an evil dog. Doc shot it 6 times with a tranq gun, enough to put a horse down ×.05 and that fucker was still running around trying to kill everyone outside his kennel. I just shot it with my pistol cause I felt bad for the evil fucker.

And all shitbulls go to hell too

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what are your guys thoughts on Maremmano-Abruzzese Sheepdogs?

I'm looking at the dogs in the shelter and there's a 7 month old one who's super cute but I won't be able to get there in person for a few months. I've lived with working dogs before, my mum's dog is a border collie x Kelpie so I know how to train dogs and I'm more than happy to walk him daily (run even), but I'm a bit scared of the unknown of having a dog breed I'm not familiar with.

>>5114369
Real, working line LSG dogs are not usually good pets.

>>5114371
yeah I'm getting this vibe. from research they bark a lot and I'm autistic so I can't deal with it if they bark a lot.

>>5114374
They bark, jump or climb fences, have a strong desire to roam and will bust through screened windows to run 2 miles away, some are not dog friendly, they can get destructive when kept indoors.
If you raised one from a puppy to be a house pet you could have a somewhat fine dog, but not without a lot of work.

>>5114375
fair, I will not get him because I don't think I can give him the space or lifestyle he needs

I might look into a Japanese spitz or a Greyhound

I shouldn't really care and I know I shouldn't but
I have two dogs and I wish they'd actually play or mesh together lol. At most they'll just lie beside each other. If I try to pet Dog B, he'll act cold to me but if I pet Dog A, suddenly Dog B will act like he really wants to play with me and starts butting over Dog A for pets and hugs. Is there a way to get them to play more with each other? Dog A seems to try to avoid Dog B as much as possible but they don't really fight. Dog B will try to hump Dog A's mouth and Dog A tells him to fuck off and that's pretty much the most of their interactions...

>>5114466
You gotta be the hype man. Get them hyped up and they might play around together.

>>5114469
I do, dog A will just go away the moment I try bringing them together lol.

>>5114470
I think some dogs just don't like playing as much as other dogs. Do you ever take them both out in a field or something where they can be off leash?

>>5114486
yup Dog B loves other dogs. Dog A strays away and does his own thing lol. If another dog comes near him he looks like disgusted lmfao.

Finally had my first full night of sleep since getting a puppy. Felt like a million bucks this morning

how do old dogs go on the plane? it would only be a 4 hour trip but I don't know

>>5114621
haha, they're all in crates no? I worry about the stress

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>>5114622
Think of it like this: there are 0 people in the hold.

>>5114637
apparently it has air con but idk if it's ethical, id rather drive

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>>5114639
I do not recommend driving your dog through the Atlantic ocean unless he is a very good swimmer and actually an dolphin, a orca or an whale.

>>5114642
he's not my dog yet, but he is in Queensland and I live in another state, how could you not want this doggie?
https://www.gumtree.com.au/web/listing/dogs-puppies/1340945155

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>>5114643
Cute ol' fella. I don't actually know anything about flying dogs, I'm just posting to keep myself busy.

>>5114643
>how could you not want this doggie?
>"12 years young"
That's less like an adoption and more like a very sad rental

Whenever I give my dog a new food he is unsure about he takes it to his room and carefully nibbles on it. It's pretty cute.

>>5114644
<3
>>5114646
I am aware, but I think old dogs deserve love too. it's so sad to me that someone abandoned him

>>5114654
I don't disagree. It's noble of you, but I'm not so noble, and couldn't set myself up for heartbreak like that.

Anyone know what it's like adopting a dog in Germany from an official dog shelter? There's a dog I used to care for in a local shelter for about two years, but she wasn't getting any interest in being adopted because she needed some basic training on how to behave with other dogs. She's basically always looking to be dominant and as soon as that's established she's good with everyone, but if someone (a dog, I mean) was new, she was quick to try and prove herself to them. The owners of the shelter sent her off to Germany, to another shelter, in hopes she might find interest there for adoption as they've had success in sending other dogs that way and finding them homes

Now I'm just worrying if she'll actually find a home there and I'm honestly thinking about just going up to Germany and adopting her once I fix the yard around my house and do a decent fence - which should be taken care of before the summer ends.

It's pretty weird seeing my dog go from high-energy puppy that required long play sessions and mental stimulation. To a more relaxed dog that enjoys napping and chewing on his chew toys. It's not like he won't play either, but he's not bugging to be played with nearly every waking hour. It's almost like hitting enlightenment. Is this the moment where people get the most fond memories of their dogs?

Why is my dog so hungry now? I used to just feed her 2 cups a day but now she has way more of an appetite

>>5114888
Could be growing, but I don't know her age. I think dogs in general are just down bad for food, and if they learn that whining gives them a meal, they're gonna whine more often

Does separation anxiety mean good recall? My dog can't breathe without me holding his hand, and he recalls pretty good when off leash. Though I have yet to try it when there's another dog around, which is my fear

>>5115093
Good recall is more about a dog that can easily switch off from a highly aroused state.

>>5115098
Ok he must have a horrible recall then

>>5115099
Does he play fetch? Try recalling him when he's running to retrieve the ball.

>>5115100
Imma try that. I've been trying to drill, when I can, that coming to me means pets and scratches on his chest. I don't know if I've rewarded him with treats yet

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German sausage dogs is the greatest in za warudo!

>>5115111
Good idea as a start. High value treats are totally worth it for one of the most important commands your dog can learn!

>>5115272
Looks like an A1 goober.

>>5115272
Did Stroheim say "za world" in the sub?

Hot take: Huskies are better german shepherds
t. Aussie owner

My GSD and I play fight where he'll jump towards my face like he's trying to attack me. This won't cause hip dysplasia or joint issues, right? We do it on dirt and grass, and I crouch down so I'm at his face level when he stands up

I wish I had a GSD.

>>5115333
No you don't

>>5115333
They are exceptional dogs, but take some work to train. Getting one from a reputable breeder is important.

>>5115323
correct. huskies are amazing and german shepherds are just great.

>>5115343
What if I just want a chill medium-large dog to hang out with and don't want to go through the life-invading nonsense required by a "reputable breeder"? What's the breed for me?

>>5115384
Not all reputable breeders demand extensive background checks. Mine didnt.

>>5115386
>>5115343
I got my GSD from a work friend whose dog had puppies. That's not a risky thing, right?

>>5115388
How old are the sire/dam and do you them both? The least risky would be getting a puppy whose parents health/genetics have been tested and showed good results. GSD temperment and druve can greatly vary because there's super chilled out showline and intense working breeds, but also a mix of everything in between.

>>5115388
Do you know them both/have you met the parents?

>>5115400
>>5115399
Ive met them when I showed up to buy them, but my attention wasn't on them. They were chill and socialized, barring the Aussie dad, but I dont know their health status

>>5115406
The dad was an Australian Shepard. I'm not trying to joke and discretely talk about their "human parents"

>>5115408
So aussie gsd cross? If the parents seem healthy and friendly not too much to worry about aside from possible neuroticism.
Get some sheep for your dog to herd and you'll be golden.

>>5115409
>neuroticism
What does that look like in dogs?

>>5115413
It can show up in a lot of ways. Id just research it for your breed.

>>5115413
Acting more like a dog and less like the superior cat

Would you say Dalmatians are big dogs?

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>>5115539
Medium sized

>>5115702
They really cute. I have a flat, is it doable if I do a walk morning and evening and WFH twice a week?

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>>5115729
The more stimulation and socialization with Dalmatians the better. Running them helps. I've always had them in rural settings idk about apartment dwelling, but people do it.

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>>5115729
>is it doable if I do a walk morning and evening
what do you call a walk? dals are very high energy, especially as puppies. i was running mine about 4 miles a day when he was a puppy.

>>5115730
>The more stimulation and socialization with Dalmatians the better.
totally agree

>>5115760
What's a large-ish dog that's lower energy?

>>5115778
Greyhound

>>5115784
What about danes?

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>>5113642

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I don't like being presented with the bumhole of an dog

>>5115868
Make them wear pants.

Why do people use harnesses over collars? You can't control your dog as well with a harness, or issue corrections if need be

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I work next to a vet clinic. Lots of dogs and people stand outside waiting to get inside. There are dogs of different temperaments and owners of different knowledge levels, so I worry that a dog or a human may become a chew toy and no one knows how to kill a bite.

I just wanna know if this is where a leash should be if you wanted to choke a dog off a bite. I tried to get the leash and and tight, behind his ears. I'm meant to pull directly upwards, right? I wanna make sure I got it right because if shit hits the fan, I wanna be useful

I miss you everyday my sweet Angel
Thanks for visiting me in my dreams

>>5115962
Was thinking the same. I volunteer as a walker at a shelter where lots of dogs have behavioural issues and harnesses make it easier for them to pull. It's especially problematic with bigger dogs.

>>5116002
>and harnesses make it easier for them to pull.
Yeah, I didn't want to say it since I wasn't 100% sure, but I think it encourages leash pulling, which is super bad for your scary, aggressive dogs (cane corso, pit mixes, gsd, etc.)

>>5115962
I worry they'll slip out of a collar. Doubly so because losing the collar means losing the primary means of both control and identification.

I could double up and have a martingale on top of their regular collar, but my dogs are retards and I don't want to choke them (or leash train them), so a harness is the least bad option. I don't take them anywhere anyway so it doesn't really matter.

>>5115962
if you actually know what you’re doing, dont own a dog you shouldnt (looking at women with anything over 25lbs here) and dont behave like a lead poisoned baby boomer retard (ie: your dog is not abused or understimulated) your dog will be 1: more under control anyways 2: wont get hurt if something goes wrong.

I only see foreign races, women and shrimp dick MAGA hats still using collars of any kind. The kind of MAGA hats that stand by israel, not the sane anti-woke people that used to wear them. If you’re in a third world country like texas it might be different.

I am not circumcized so my aversion to causing pain to others may be bewildering to people who had their genitalia mutilated without anesthesia as babies. I may also have a different idea of control. The traumatized are more controlling and get angry when they see people whose dogs don’t march at a heel until freed. Normal, undamaged people typically give dogs more freedom to stop, sniff, etc and still consider that well trained behavior if the leave it command works.

>>5116026
The truth hurts.

Only golem flavored americans and other subhumans still use things that hurt dogs and brag about the “control” they have.
And if your dog is so unhinged you need to fight it, I mean, “dominate and lead it”, maybe you shouldn’t have adopted a shitbull.

>>5116031
>nooo dont point out that i share my dog-choking ways with MIGAtards
You do. Its what stupid people do. Stop using collars. Use a properly fit harness that does not restrict shoulder movement or use a front clip (a meme for people who shouldnt own the dog they got 100% for looks). Stop choking your dog and calling their aversion to being choked “control”.

Also google what cervical IVDD and tracheal collapse are. And denounce the talmud.

>>5116015
My dog only slips out when I pull so the leash is in front of him. IDK if that happens often for you, or your dogs are escape artists

>>5116026
So glad you posted that. I wanted to read that, but I've decided against it

>>5116047
>>5116042
>>5116039
>>5116031
>catchad generates effortless seethe
Earth to /dog/
If you didnt all abuse your pets, you wouldnt be this easy to troll. All he said was that abusing pets was for american poorfags and you’re genuinely seething, too mad to reply.

Maybe if you dont like being trolled, stop defending and recommending animal abuse on the animals board
>but MUH WORKIN DAWG needs to be LED BY DUH ALPHA and by that I mean abused
Sorry you bought a neurotic, aggressive animal and are part of what makes dog owners lower IQ and poorer than cat owners on average! Have fun adding +1 to the 80 million yearly dog bites. Cat people dont have these problems because we dont abuse our pets.

Fuck, you dogfags probably dont even know what on average actually means

Why dont ya’ll go out and scream LEAVE EEEET at your dogs for sniffing some meaningless bush without your permission lmfao. They surely need the discipline and structure.
>dogfags are actually like this
>their pers keep attacking people and screaming 24/7 especially in poor conservative areas where everyone abuses their dog
>they still dont get it
lmaoing @ dogpeasants

>>5116057
Lmao very nostalgic troll post. Nice

I make my aussie wear a collar and leash in the house and pop that shit directly into their throat if they challenge my dominance. Libtards will seethe. Dogs are slaves. Go be owned by your cat somewhere else.

>>5116057
>what on average means
Kek what a retard

>>5116057
Based. I’m sick of dogfags casually abusing animals. You would never see anyone else use a "prong collar" on any other animal unless it were a thirdie torturing livestock.

It’s almost as bad as boomer horsefags.

The two seven week old puppies I'm fostering and have to keep quarantined won't stop crying. Oh the cute little shits stop crying when I visit them but it's lights out time for them and they're still whining up a storm. Naturally they have enough food water sanitary conditions toys etc.

>>5116107
They’re meant to be with their mother chud

>>5115280
Probably he did.

>>5115277
Also he is best boi

My dog would put his front paws together like this sometimes. Is this a common dog body language? Does it mean he's politely asking for something? He usually does it when (I believe) he wants my food

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>>5116114
They've calmed down. They just needed some tlc and worm remover

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I just spent 3 weeks in New Zealand. Their dogs are amazing.

>90% are offleash
>Despite this, didn't see a single instance of a dog: not listening to their owner, bothering another dog or human, running away or chasing something unbidden
>Most were lean, athletic, no-nonsense herding mutts
>Zero shitbulls

Basically the dogs were as free as the humans and just as well-behaved. It felt like dog utopia. Just high-trust affluent society things, I guess. The kinda shit America can never have thanks to dysgenic brownoids and childless virtue signal karens sabotaging the meta.

pic related a random chad with an offleash collie dalmatian cross who was playing with his girl in downtown queenstown no probz. Unshown is an offleash bernese like10 feet away just chilling and accepting stranger pets and loving life, and a heeler thing three tables down taking a nap on the bench. Complete canine harmony even with 19879423 loud stupid annoying tourists around. Things amerikkkan'ts can only dream of having.

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Does my puppy need another round of vaccines? The vet said he's fine after 2. Everyone else including the breeder says 3rd round at 14 weeks. Apparently nobivac is a fast finisher but we mixed vaxxes.

How can I get my dog some allergy medicine without going to the vet? I really don't feel like spending hundreds of dollars right now

>>5116752
benadryl then dose it based on your dogs weight I AM NOT A DOCTOR

>>5116756
I'm so glad there was a vet ITT to help me so quickly this time

Not really feeling the puppy thing, it cries more than my practice gf.

>>5116853
Puppy phase is a lot of work and not much reward, but once your dog grows up all that work you put in makes for an amazing and low maintenance dog. Puppy blues is real, but you just gotta keep going.

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>>5114654
You're a good lad

>>5116752
>I don't want to spend money to take care of my dog properly
You never should've gotten a dog

>>5116895
Yeah I know

>>5116752
I've used generic zyrtec on my dog. It seemed about as effective as benadryl (not very) but it lasts way longer and isn't a sedative.

>>5116895
The only way he has that level of duty, where he has to run to a vet to drop three figures over a minor issue before trying OTC meds, is if he's responsible for the dog having problems (e.g. didn't do enough research and bought from a bad breeder or bred it himself).

>>5116959
People have gotten way too uppity about dog care. An average dog owned by middle class white people in the 60s almost certainly lived a worse life than yours.

>>5116966
I'll look for some dog safe Zyrtec for my guy. Every since we moved, he's been having some crazy symptoms. Thanks for the help, fellas

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Huskies won

>>5116655
New zealand has a massive problem with off leash dogs killing their uniquely retarded birds (abortions of nature that never should have evolved and were one new predator away from going extinct anyways)

>>5113642
Moist cookie

>>5116968
Sam's Club's house brand is what I gave to mine. Walmart's is probably the same thing.

You got me curious so I did some googling. Cetirizine is supposedly the preferred antihistamine for dogs (I just used it because it's what I had). A small trial showed that fexofenadine (Allegra) is possibly effective for atopic dermatitis in dogs.
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4537558/#:~:text=B.3.d.

All of the OTC antihistamines that I looked up were safe. Maybe try a few different ones and see what works. Definitely check for yourself though. I was wrong about cetirizine being non-drowzy, don't bet your dog's health on my mush brain.

>>5117007
>Cetirizine
I was looking around for that on chewy, but it was locked behind a prescription wall. I'll see if I can find one that'll let me just buy it

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>>5113642
My dogs always wanna share the bed with me, but it makes my room too hot. How can I better convince them to sleep on their bed instead?

I want to chuck this puppy off a balcony ngl

>>5117053
Almost hitler-esque. Very based and cute pilled puppy.

>>5117056
Get a better air conditioner

>>5117169
Kinda does look like hitler. Hopefully it doesn't kill itself when the going gets tough

>>5117241
I think you meant escape to Argentina when things get tough.

>>5117002
That's the stuff

>>5117260
He's gonna dive mouth first into a box of cocoa puffs when the vets come knocking on his door for his rabies shot

>>5117169
He's going to down a handful of grapes instead of dealing with the consequences of shitting on the carpet

My dog just killed a rattlesnake and brought it back. I didn’t find any bite marks on her. Should I go to the vet tomorrow?

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>>5117381
if you're serious you need to take her now.

My 13 and a half year old dog is going downhill fast. Was dementia at the start of this year and vertigo, took her to the vet yesterday and her eye sight is going. Judging by how often she doesnt react to her name her hearing is going too. Felt like just a few months ago she was just old, now shes falling apart. Tearing up as I type this. I cant imagine life without her

Got a dog last month, she's been doing okay. But ever wince last Wednesday she has been knocking over the kennel in the house while I'm out at work. She never did this before until now. How do I fix this? If I leave her out the kennel inside my home she knocks stuff over and chews despite having multiple toys she enjoys. I can put her outside but I would need to install two posts and a runner since she can easily jump over my chain fence.

Also, new to dogs, is it okay to lightly smack a dog's butt/nose to teach them what they did was wrong? I keep seeing positive reinforcement being thrown around but nobody seems to explain it properly, just throwing the buzzword and calling it a day.

She is a 3 year old Redbone Hound mutt if that helps.

>>5117571
I understand. I havent had to see my dog reach his last years yet, but without him I am alone. Hes basically my only family. When the moment presents itself, you have to make that call. I've seen what happens when you let your dog succumb to its illness, and it's a bad sight.

If she doesn't have any medical condition actively killing her, then you might be able to let her pass naturally, but I don't know. Loving someone else means hating yourself. I don't know why we do this when this is the end result

>>5117588
I'm not a dog trainer, and I'm probably a little less ignorant than you are, but I have seen some dog training that you might not have run into. Firstly, its probably time to put your dog in her kennel while you're away. A few hours locked up isn't bad, especially if you're giving her freedom when you're home and there's a serious risk she could ingest something that will kill or harm her when you're gone.

The guy I follow preaches a mix of positive only and "old school", "rough" dog training. I think that basically means he'll reward them when they do good and issue "swift and severe" punishments if they do something wrong. If it's possible, maybe invest in an e collar if you want to issue corrections. It's more socially accepted and is proven to work, unlike smacking their nose and stuff. Just make sure you study e collars and how to use them properly so you don't make anything worse. Since you have a short window of time to correct a dog when it does something wrong, it's best to have a corrector that can work from long distance

>>5117594
>Firstly, its probably time to put your dog in her kennel while you're away.
But that's the problem, I do that and she knocks over the kennel now. Before she never did, but now she does every time.

>>5117596
I would probably get an e collar first, see if she tips her kennel over even if you're home, and issue a correction if she attempts to. If she doesn't, then I would probably get a more square kennel or a heavier one. Something that can't be tipped over from the inside

>>5117588
>i lock my dog in jail whenever i leave for ten hours and they go nuts. whats wrong with them?

>>5117598
>you need to electrocute your dog and tortu…CORRECT them with a shock coll…remote training utility or buy a heavier cage
Dogs are smarter than most parrots short of the big shit like african greys. You idiots shouldnt be allowed to own them or give advice regarding them.

No wonder so many people get bit if dogfags treat such intelligent animals like this. Any rational animal would eventually lash out at humans if consistently abused.

Your dog needs a companion and constant mental stimulation. Why did you get dogs just to torture them? Are they livestock? Are you eating them? Dogs have not been useful working animals since the invention of guns and gasoline.

>>5117600
I'm not reading this, and neither should the guy I'm talking to because you're squawking like a pig-monkey-bird.

If anyone is on the fence about e collars or prong collars, do your own research and decide if it's right for you and your dog. Listen to (mature) e/prong collar detractors, then listen to e/prong collar supporters. Look into the best case scenario of using these tools and the worst case scenario, then decide if you want to go down this training route

>>5117601
>pig-monkey-bird.
I guess it's actually "pink-monkey-bird", but that's basically what I said, right? Would a pig monkey bird just be a pink monkey-bird hybrid? It would have a monkey tail, bird wings and a beak, and pink skin, right? Maybe the difference between a pig-monkey-bird and a pink-monkey-bird would BE their skin. The former would have only pink skin, naturally, but because it's skin is that of a pig; the latter would simply just have pink feathers and skin

>>5117602
You are this retarded.
>teach the controversy
>listen to creationism detractors and supporters
>make your own decisions
Electrocuting animals to make them behave is animal abuse.

You would have a point to make if something were on the line other than the extra time you need to play video games. You do not need a dog.

>>5117601
>i cant respond so *something thats an insult to amerifat hicks*
Pain compliance is abuse.
Locking an intelligent social animal all alone in a cage is abuse.

You never see cat people do this shit. Do you know why? Because the left end of the bell curve is curiously absent from our ranks but every wife beating trailer trash amerifat wants a dog.

My dog will look me in the eye while he's shitting and licking his ass, but God forbid I lift his tail to inspect his asshole

>>5117604
yeah instead they just overfeed the cat and refuse to let them work out

why are you in the dog general mr toxo?

>>5117600
Okay but should I put a runner outside for the dog since it needs stimulation 24/7?

>>5117602
Shock collar supporters be like
>an ex marine
>a seaworld employee who is no longer wanted at seaworld
>an american police officer
>an ex-cartel reality tv star
>a farmer
>a pro-israel evangelical pastor
>some miserable old boomer woman
>and many other youtube grifters
>the american kennel club (you either know this organization is evil and actively supports animal abuse, ritual mutilation to “pay homage to historical purpose” , and torture breeding more than any other kennel club, or you are retarded)
Shock collar opponents be like
>every college educated behaviourist
>anyone who studies ethics and doesn’t openly praise satan
>proverbs 12:10
>the american veterinary society of animal behavior
>the american college of veterinary behaviourists
>the national association of veterinary technicians in america
>the kennel club (UK)

>>5117589
God im going to sound like a bitch for this but I have been tearing up knowing she cant hear me say I love her anymore. That dog will have no idea how much she has been loved.

>>5117608
You need to hit your dog if you want to look hard.
>but they’ll be more likely to bite people!
That’s the point libtard. Dont touch my dog.
>there are 6 million dog bite victims
You mean six million retards who got in a well trained dogs face.
>but they’ll bite other dogs!
Maybe your pampered collies; golden retrievers and shitberian malamutes shouldn’t act too dominant around my pitbull. If your dog is actually disciplined and knows its place it won’t act dominant around superior dogs and get its ass kicked. Fluffy instagram dogs are pitbulls inferiors. They are weaker and dont know how to fight. They should act like it.
>uhhh we need to ban pitbulls and german shepherds and also assault rifles and free speech! I’m afraid of dogs and want them to be harmless! Ban mean words!
Of fucking course.

Now cry about muh 30 dead
Those 30 needed to learn to respect a well trained animal. Dogs are like men when raised right. When you raise them to be pampered children, they cant fight and my dog will rip them apart just like he’ll rip anyone who enters my house without my permission. If you had a dog? It would run. Deal with it.

>>5117612
>mailman knocks on door
>dies
>kid gets ball out of your yard
>dies
>friends kids come over
>all eaten for acting too dominant near te pibble
>random husky at the park looks too perky and makes pibble nervous
>devoured instantly
>sons new gf was raised with nice normal dogs
>touches pitbulls head
>dies too
>pitbull runs off with her arm after dozens of max strength shocks fail to make it do anything but bite harder
>son traumatized by the event, turns gay
Life of a dogfag

>>5117610
You're not a bitch for feeling like that. She's special to you, so it's natural you'd feel upset that she's approaching her end. If it makes you feel any better, it's not important that she can't hear you say "I love you" since dogs are more physical, body language focused. If you've shown her love physically, then I'm sure she already knows how much you care about her

>>5113642
Don't think about cookie

>>5117598
Thats not how youre supposed to use an ecollar, retard.

>>5117620
Very useful post. Thanks for sharing. We await your next post like we await a cancer diagnosis

>>5117622
Says the retard that uses an ecollar in an abuse manner.

>>5117624
*Abusive manner, not "abuse manner". Were you really replying to my comments multiple times until I replied? Holy fuck, the mental illness on this site is actually saddening. Dude, seriously, strive to be a better person. Don't you know you're capable of more than being an online troll?

>>5117625
>seethes over a simple typo.
Im glad we can both agree you're a retard that promotes abusive training methods online. Take your own advice, maybe?

Long haired dogs are gross

My service dog snapped at my nurse when she was changing my knee bandage

>>5117738
Service dogs act as protection dogs? Since when?

>>5117738
To be fair it probably looked like the nurse was taking off part of your leg.

i hate my gf's chihuahua. It never stops fucking barking and the only way to get it to stop is for me to yell at it and pin it down until it calms the fuck down but my gf gets mad but refuses to train it to shut the fuck up

it's getting to the point where I'm considering breaking up with her because I don't want to live with an annoying dog

>>5117813
fucking tell me about it. i work at a veterinarians office and all i hear the entire fucking day is whining and barking. i do like dogs but i think working at a vet watered that down a lil

I love my chihuahua. She never stops barking at that abusive loser I call a "boyfriend" but he gets pissy like the little boy he is and slams her on the ground

it's getting to the point where I'm hoping he kills himself or breaks up with me over her chorus

Forest Gump and I got something in common
The world treats you differently when you’re brilliant

I hate my stupid cunt owner but her boyfriend is awesome. Whenever I bark he barks with me and then we wrestle but the worthless hole must hate fun because she freaks out every time he pins me

It's getting to the point where I hope she has a stroke and becomes a vegetable so he and I can play without her distracting us

>>5118019
Heather-kun…it’s time for your ozempic shot.

>>5118049
It's a multilayered response with niche references just like your post calling the dog poster known formally as huskyfag on multiple boards a random huskyfag. I wouldn't be suprised if both posts are in fact not a random huskyfag, but the huskyfag.

>>5118055
>newfag needs spoonfeeding
Yeesh.

>>5118061
It appears you have stooped an even lower stoop, houndlet.

>>5118064
>t. unc

>>5118066
Prove it, unc.

>>5118070
Done.

>>5118076
You must first say that collielets and houndcels and inferior to huskychads.

>>5118079
>can't do it
All the proof I need, kek.

>>5118079
>>5118082
lolmaokekaroo

>>5118085
This dog is clearly fluffy and a healthy weight!

>>5118085
>>5118084
Based dogs healing the /dog/ thread.

Please bring this janny to /sp/

>>5117813
Break up with her. If she can't raise the dog, she cannot be trusted to raise your children.

>>5118122
Youve never met a woman before, have you? In fact, you've probably never even witnessed the average pet owner, huh? Most pet owner's dogs are out of control, and Chihuahua and their owners have the stereotype that they have for a reason. Give your mother a Chihuahua and I promise you you'll most likely end up in the same situation

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I apologize if this is uncalled for but I need to vent a little. My dog died yesterday, she was a 12 (was to be 13 this month) year old German Shepherd. This picture was taken a few hours before I had to watch her being euthanized. It's been very heavy on my mind, she couldn't get up from the ground anymore, and she apparently had kidney and liver failure, she stopped eating and refused to take the medicine we got for her, I had to give her water through a syringe to the mouth. It really hurts me, I really didn't want to make this call, me and my family have been completely devastated. Nothing worse than coming back home from work and call your dog's name and then being reminded that she's gone. I miss her so much. Having to go to work as if nothing happened is making my stomach sink like it wants to puke. Coping with death of a family member is hard.

>>5118390
My GSD is about half her age. I've only had him for 5 years now, but it seems like we've been together forever. I don't know what I'm going to do when he dies, so I can imagine how you might feel. You did make the right choice, though. I've seen what happens when you wait too long to decide on how your dog is going to pass, and it wasn't pretty at all. It's cliche, but it gets better. Time heals all wounds, but it won't stop hurting completely

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>18 year old yorkie is finally undergoing kidney failure. can hardly even move
Tried to take her to the vet to get IV to see if it would help but it didnt seem to give her much more energy. I'm gonna miss my girl

>>5118415
How do you prevent kidney failure in dogs?

I can't take much more death posts. Please, talk to your family or something

>>5118415
nice tongue

My ultimate failure
>Say I want a dog since I was a child
>Become an adult and realize that I could never take care of a dog
>Family keeps hyping me up about getting a dog
>Months of pressure, I give a date I don't intend to keep
>Don't
>They keep asking when I'm going to the shelter
>Last Saturday, they are over physically, they get me to give into driving to a shelter
>See the sad dogs and can't abandon them, emotional want for a dog going above my logical brain
>Get a very well behaved rescue, I can eat right in front of her and she is very well house trained, very good dog when inside
>Doesn't understand what toys are, very resistant on the leash, because she doesn't know what toys are she is always bored in the house
>Is very familiar with how to slip a collar, every inch while walking is fight, and coming home is a 20 minute endeavor where she doesn't want to walk through the door way
>Because she doesn't know what toys are the house is just this boring miserable place for her
>Five days in, and two days in a row, I've had to hide at work to cry at the thought of going home to fight with her

>>5118505
Don't be so hard on yourself. You were ignorant to the realities of shelter dogs and got one that doesn't suit you. I did the same thing years ago and also felt like a stupid piece of shit. But my biggest mistake was not returning mine, because now I'm stuck with him.

There's a small chance that she'll get better in a few weeks. Rescue people cite the 3/3/3 rule religiously but I've only ever seen dogs become harder to live with over time. If she's not viable in a couple of weeks, know that it's hopeless.

Take the one you've got back and start fostering. Learn what your local selection is like and what tradeoffs you can live with. Figure out how to pick a good one. Don't be afraid to exchange the foster dogs either. Wait at least 6 months before adopting again.

>>5118505
>>5118533
You white people are so silly. Just get what you want and get rid of what you don't want.

>>5118505
Brother, hire a dog trainer if the behavior is such a big issue.

I've been told that Danes are good easy dogs because they're lazy and chill and I've been told they're a bad idea because they can overpower most grown men if they feel like it.

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>>5118560
nah
they're a bad idea because they live maybe 6 years on average
it's a cruel world where all the annoying tiny anklebiters live to 20 while all the proper good dogs barely make it to 10

>>5118560
>being average

>>5118560
I have no idea what dog would be good for me, a first time owner. I don't think I could handle a giant dog. Imagine getting willmogged by some giant animal.

>>5118570
You need to consider your lifestyle and the amount of time you want to put into owning a dog.
Do you think it could be a sort of hobby you can devote an hour or longer to each day, or do you just want a chill bro type dog to chill with? Do you live in a city? What's your work schedule look like? Are you living by yourself?

If you want the most out of owning a dog without devoting your entire life to keeping it happy I would suggest getting one that is easy to train with medium to high intelligence and at least some work drive. Training comes easily to this sort of dog and they're happy to listen once you've built up your bond with them. We have the internet these days, and there are a lot of great resources you can learn to raise/train a dog even as a first time owner. It really comes down to putting the time in everyday to make that happen.

>>5118562
>Hating corgis
Ngmi

>>5118505
>>5118533
Absolutely do not return it to the shelter. Defy your dog, start impulsively running to see if it gets it going, it's still getting used to you. Throwing it back to the shelter will give it the wrong message and potentially kill any trust he's putting towards you and other human beings.

>>5118573
Where does this misinformation stem from? People believe it. How do we educate the masses and eliminate this talk track?

>>5118718
What are you even talking about?

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Brutal size mogging

I saw some kind of liquid drip from my dogs butt when he pooped. Is that normal?

>>5118827
If you say mog, pilled, maxxed, chad, -cel, -cucked, or cope one more time your melted looking dog will die in their sleep and jamal will leave a husky puppy on your doorstep

>>5114033
It's a subhuman, he doesn't want to take care of anything besides his lazy ass.

>>5118946
Youre using subhuman like it's a noun and not an adjective

Every dog I meet now has heterochromia, it's like they all think they're anime characters.

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>>5118838
>cough cough hack gaaaag
>aruhroobaroowuhwawoooooMOG

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>>5118838
Dying out

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Nanachi… koroshite… *farts*

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>>5118877
Excellent image. Have a webbum of two dogs playing in return.

>>5119222
Is it healthy for two fat dogs to wrestle like canine sumo? Wont they hurt themselves eventually?

>>5119222
Perfect loop wtf?

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>>5119224
They're both fairly healthy weights. gsd is a lil underweight and white mutt is a lil overweight. They're both fully grown dogs, so a little rough housing/exercise is great for them. Some may say this is an example of "bad play" but it never escalates into anything bad. They've been living with each other long enough that they have really good boundaries set and never actually fight fight anymore. That only happened maybe like 3 or 5 times I dont remember.

>>5119234
Entirely unintentional.

What do you do when you accidentally get shit on your hand when picking up?

>>5119284
Wipe it on your dog

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It happened again. My partner told his aunt about our 'new' dog and she had some kind of meltdown about how stupid we are for getting a cattle dog cross, how utterly foolish, how he's going to destroy our possessions and our lives. What a grave mistake we have made!
I guess it's a pattern of his family having some image of him as a retarded teenager stuck in their heads, but it shits me to tears when people who know absolutely nothing about me, my history with working type dog breeds OR working type dog breeds themselves keep making these massive, melodramatic pantomimes about how STUPID we are.
>all I can imagine doing next time is saying "ok i'll book the appointment to have him euthanized then thank you so much for educating me!!!!!"

She has a little Maltese x Toy Poodle who is very cute and harmlessly lightweight, but clearly has no fucking training.

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>>5119477
He's just past 22 weeks now and we've started on real commands after focusing on good manners so far. He's got sit, focus (eye contact,) stay, down, go, drop (let go,) come, here (meaning 'in position') and is working on shake and rolling over.
The single 'troublesome' cattle dog trait that he has is getting a run up and bodying/nipping my legs because he wants to play, but he's taken really well to replacing that with offering a toy. I'm also teaching him to herd/control soccer balls now which is great fun.

I want to build him something that I'm 99% sure I've seen before irl but I can't fucking find online now. A giant weighted-bottom tumble toy that he can wrestle and knock over that will always right itself. I want to make him a little luchadore costume and teach him to wrestle lmao.
>this couch was already fucked that's why he's allowed to zoom all over it, that damage isn't from him

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>>5119480
Also something I'm very proud of him for: He's SO good about not taking things that he knows aren't his. I always offer him cardboard boxes/bags to tear apart and he has never once taken or destroyed a piece of cardboard that wasn't offered to him, which feels like a clever distinction for a puppy to make when it's all effectively the same thing.

>>5119241
>Some may say this is an example of "bad play"
reeeeee I hate this sentiment so fucking much. It's just the natural way that dogs play. If people don't want their dogs to do this, they should consider cats instead. What is up with this "dogs should be afraid to do anything other than lie down and stare at the wall, that is how you know that they respect you" idea that people have now?

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hf3CtPd17U0
big dogs hit different, word of advice to the puppy owners work on pulling aversion early theres a reason my dog was free

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>>5119485
I understand the sentiment if you're bringing your dog to a dog park with new/strange dogs, but if you have 2 dogs that live together, understand boundaries, and rough house without it devolving into actual fighting who freaking cares? Yeah dogs play bitey face with each other. They're dogs. Who cares if it's in good fun?

>>5119506
Why the fuck are people still going to the dog park? Why risk your dog getting into a fight? Just to play with other dogs? Nigga, find an open field and play tag with your dog yourself

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCG8Brc-AOc

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>>5119515
I feel exactly the same way. You get way more out of active time with your dog in an open space if you do fun things like training them. I will admit that I am lazy a lot of the time and I just let the dogs do whatever while I'm on the phone. I think that's why people bring their dog to the dog park. It feels like you're doing more with doing more, but you're just doing less and possible making your dog worse.

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Partner's mate who acted like a big dick tiktok dog expert, then upon first meeting my puppy drunkenly chased him around the house scaring the absolute shit out of him, just came to visit. The puppy is still scared of him, so his suggestion was to get a shock collar. "Why don't we smack him when he's being bad?"
>He's not being bad, you ginger wanker.
I'm starting to think that my partner just surrounds himself with retards and I'd be better off taking my fucking dog and moving out.

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>>5119563
>reeee I can't pick up and wrestle a young puppy from first meeting without him being scared of me and barking??? can i hurt it and scare it until it lets me?????

>>5119480
Is "focus" purely a blowjob thing? Why are you training him for eye contact?

>>5118877
That's the sweetest dog ever

>>5119565
>>5119563
Anon, this threads occasional catchad rants about how dog owner culture is ritualized animal abuse are not incorrect. Its not a recurring troll post. Its organic activity, reactions from cat owners and non-dog people getting recommended people like joel beckman on youtube after watching dog videos. MOST dog people are like that. Caesar milan was one of the top rated shows and he is still famous rather than reviled like he would be if everyone were high IQ and empathetic. Pro-punishment retards also do their best to induct new people into their idiocy if the new dog owners are clueless and desperate - using sanitized terms like “correction” instead of “painful punishment” and “training tool” instead of “spike collar”, “shock collar”, and “cervical intervertebral disc destroyer” (the marketing name? GENTLE LEADER) to fool them.

Its basically an abuse/dominance fetish on the human side. A devotion to causing harm to signal some sort of degenerate value

They also lay on the fear propaganda about how your dog will be “too dominant” and attack/get attacked (by their strung out abused shepbull) if you don’t listen to them and throw in some authority and appeals to “traditional masculinity” (actually a half witted parody of military values that would be irrelevant to anyone who is not a professional murderer).

It has also been scientifically proven that listening to these idiots makes dogs fearful and stressed, and more likely to bite, by every single institute of legitimate behavioral study. Which doesn’t faze them. These extremely common idiots are also opposed to all of science because a jew lied to them about a drug trial once. In a way they’re more like dogs than dogs are. They also bizarrely believe the disposition of a stressed and fearful dog (very alert and panting all the time) indicates a readiness to obey and “drive”.

>>5119563
>partners mate
what

its retards all around

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>>5119626
When he's sleepy sure.
Pic related is normal mode. No complaints, he's as smart as he is rambunctious.

>>5119477
I'm going to get a full blown ACD even though I'm a full blown retard and no amount of criticism can dissuade me

>>5119563
>upon first meeting my puppy drunkenly chased him around the house scaring the absolute shit out of him
The magic words are "knock it off, faggot." Stick up for your dog.

>>5119640
>MOST dog people are like that
You clearly have not gone outside

>>5119563
Are you a woman or gay?

Would I be crazy to adopt a 1 year old german shepherd from a shelter? I'm a hikkikomori neet and sometimes I'm afraid to go outside. I think a dog would set me straight a bit. I also think german shepherds are beautiful but I'm concerned that it may hop the fence or bark a lot or cause other problems. I usually like to live hidden like a frightened animal, and I think a dog would bring me in to the world more.

>>5119682
Well I'm an actual GSD owner unlike the other neet, and I'll let you know that it's probably not best to have one if you don't want to go outside. I stay indoors a lot too, but he's super hyper and acts a fool when we actually go outside. It pisses me off, embarrasses me, and if I was weak or unprepared, he would yank himself free and probably get into trouble. I would recommend looking into dogs that are fine with sleeping indoors all day, because they do exist. I believe there are ugly and cute ones too, so don't worry about only having a pug

>>5119686
>I would recommend looking into dogs that are fine with sleeping indoors all day
Shelters only have labs, pit bulls, huskies, and the occasional gsd. Anything outside of that I'm unlikely to find.

>>5119689
If that's my company here, I might as well just go for it. So what if the dog is too much for me? In such case I'd just return it to the shelter.

Maybe I could play fetch in the hallway. It's long enough to throw a tennis ball down. Maybe I wouldn't have to go outside after all (except so that it could shit). Children walk by my fence every day to go to the schoolbus pickup spot. A shelter-tier probably-poorly-trained 1 year old GSD barking at them would really make me nervous....

>>5119688
A lab or husky might be your best bet. I know huskies can talk a lot, but I would watch some why you should/n't get a lab/husky videos to make sure they'll be cool with staying indoors

>>5119695
I don't know man, my GSD really enjoys running horizontally. Plus they get pretty big. A small dog would probably enjoy it

>>5119682
If your serious about going outside more, getting a gsd is probably the best way to do that. Even if they're reactive that just means you will have to avoid other people/dogs.

>concerned that it may hop the fence
how tall is your fence?

>>5119695
>Maybe I wouldn't have to go outside after all
Unless they're really lazy you will have to go outside. Usually two walks a day. Or maybe one really long one. Also playing but that could be in your yard.

>>5119707
>how tall is your fence?
Only about 4 feet tall.

>Usually two walks a day.
I don't want to walk at all, honestly. Just playing in the yard would be great.

>>5119708
>Nta
If you're cool with playing in the yard, then you have no problem. Ultimately, you don't NEED to walk your dog around the neighborhood. Just try to have fun outside

And if you're so worried about him jumping the fence, look into e collar training. It's a useful tool for something like this

>>5119708
>Only about 4 feet tall
I'm pretty sure a gsd can jump that but someone else would have to confirm.

>>5119708
>Just playing in the yard would be great.
That's possible, but you have to make up for all of the mental stimulation a dog gets from walks. Mental games/toys, training, scent work, and making the actual playing more interesting than just throwing a ball. It's not as hard as it sounds and could even be more fun for them than walking, especially if they're reactive and just get stressed out barking at people on walks anyways.

But be careful that a dog being isolated like that can very easily cause reactivity or make it worse. Going occasionally to somewhere new they can see other people and dogs, even just sitting at distance, can help with this.

>>5119682
Go for a 2 to 3 year old if you can. Between 1 and 2 years can be nightmare difficulty, especially with a GSD. Sometimes adolescent dogs are totally cool, but I wouldn't count on it.

>>5119688
I've had better luck with huskies than shepherds in terms of not fucking up my house or generally being a nuisance. Shepherds are better cuddlers though. And huskies will escape if given the opportunity.

Foster a few of each breed (except for pits) and see what you like best. You only need a week or two to get a reasonable feel for a dog.

t. fellow hikki

Just gave my dog 2.5 hd final mix butter ring cookies

Any dog breeds that look foxish like the Shiba but arent as stubborn as one?

>>5119980
There used to be a guy here who had a Yakutian Laika that was very foxlike. I imagine they're pretty similar in temperament to a shiba since they're both spitzes though. I wonder if he's still around.

All the dogs at all of the shelters are rejects. All of them have some kind of behavioral issue.

>>5119659
Crazy this looks like my dog

People at my job are quite frequently mentioning mentioning how their dogs and cats are going in for teeth cleanings.

I have never heard of someone taking their dog for a routine cleaning before. The concept of routinely dropping $1k on this for a dog sounds insane to me.

Are they suckers, or am I just a huge piece of shit?

>>5120234
I second this question. Dogs teef looks clean enough, but his bully sticks turns pink when he gets it

>>5120234
I had my dog's teeth cleaned once when I worked for a vet and got a good discount. I don't think it really did much. Maybe if you feed raw and brush your dog's teeth daily, it could be worth it to get a dental done every few years. Otherwise, it seems like their mouth goes right back to baseline levels of dirty in a few months.

>>5120435
>>>/trash/
Only place AI filth belongs

>>5120435
This is obviously AI, LOOK AT THE PIG'S HAND

>>5120435
NGL I almost cried when the puppy tried to commit suicide, then I actually cried when the cat saved him and adopted him. Then I had a good laugh when they ate the pig lol

>>5116976
That doesn't sound like a problem

>>5120290
Raw would be the least necessary bc there's no sugar to fuck up their teeth

My dog kept eating grass like a goat when we went outside to play. Is he retarded or was he just thirsty?

>>5120595
He would pull it up then spit it out like an idiot. Why try to eat it just to spit it out?

>>5120596
maybe he just wants to chew it
he snussin grass

My girl is on her last legs, bros. I don't think I'm ready

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>squeaks toy

How do I convince my dog to stop lunging at passing cars? She mostly does it when the car is loud, like a truck or one with a trailer, or after she sees a squirrel/dog and becomes vigilant.

>>5120946
My dog doesnt like squeaky toys. :( Whenever he squeaks a toy he just drops it.

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Every time I say lets go you guys and grab the leash they both get the zoomies and start play fighting with each other.

>>5120955
I think you use an e collar. Whenever she's about to lunge or actually does (and doesn't become road kill), you zap her. Or when she gets too close to the road, I'm not sure. I'd ask around a bit more, but e collars are good for off leash training

If she's not off leash, then you would probably pop her with a prong collar as she's lunging at the cars, and reward her when she doesnt lunge at a passing car. I wouldn't take my word for it, and research a little more

>>5120988
That's not how you use an e collar. Pain compliance is abuse.

>>5120994
Oh word?

>>5121000
Yeah. On god, and no cap.

>>5120988
>>5120988
>e collar
>prong collar
I'm not using pain

>reward her when she doesnt lunge at a passing car
I'll try this. It should be easy since she doesn't lunge most of the time. Maybe I'll get her to do something else when a car passes like move away from the road or look at me.

>>5121011
You want to train her to look at you either while heeling or its own command, and then you can practice holding her focus while the trigger is going by. Dogs need to practice controlling their excitement, and you need to be the one to facilitate that practice.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=EeTDf6Anakg

>>5121011
Problem is, you aren't telling her what she shouldn't be doing. I feel like a dog would get confused or misguided by getting treats when cars pass by and nothing when she goes to chase them, but I'm not a dog behaviorist so whatever

Also I don't get the whole "zero pain or discomfort is ok when training dogs" when that's how dogs communicate to each other even from puppyhood

>>5121023
Call me hasan because I [insert insane hasan opinion]

>>5121030
Dogs dont electrocute each other. Feral pack-raised dogs are also aggressive as fuck so maybe don’t appeal to nature.

Just tell your dog no. It’s that simple. Imagine torturing dogs. Couldn’t be me.

>>5121034
I wasn't referring to feral dogs, I was talking about puppies or over eager dogs that get corrected by more mature dogs. They get scared, and I'm not sure if they get hurt, but they learn what line they shouldn't cross and it sometimes means a safer life since the "correction" was in a controlled environment

And telling a dog "no" doesn't work for a lot of dogs, sadly. If it did, the guy wouldn't have an issue with his dog lunging at cars. He'd just tell the dog to stop, and that'd be that

>>5121036
An old dog barking at a young one isnt like a human driving spikes into a dogs neck for doing normal dog shit

For one the latter is explicitly denounced by every vet and behaviourist (including bf skinner) that isn’t ex police/military because it makes pet dogs more aggressive, like all those "k9s" that tend to bite their handlers, and obviously, because further torturing a leashed dog for getting excited is immoral as fuck.

>>5121038
I wasn't talking about barking. I'm talking about when one dog physically corrects another animal. You ever see those videos of the cats playing with a dog a little too much and the dog "snaps" and "attacks" the cat but everyone is fine? I'm talking about that sort of correction. It teaches the "assailed animal" that it shouldn't behave like that by using force. It's uncomfortable but everyone leaves unscathed

Considering your hyperbolic speech, I'm going to assume you're that one guy that always responds to my posts (sometimes multiple times) when I mention prongs or e collars, so I'm just going to say "agree to disagree" and move on

>see a dog snapped at the air so i can electrocute my dog
>everyone who is against me is one guy
Imagine for a second that torturing dogs over stupid shit that isnt anywhere near life and death is immoral.

Yes, electrocuting your dog and making them walk around one strong lunge or slip and fall away from a punctured neck are torture. There’s no argument for this shit besides “uh, nature and tradition”. It is pointless animal torture. Your pet poodle is not dealing with dangerous wildlife, high explosives or attacking human targets. Those dogs cant even be pets after all that shit. They have to be euthanized or stay with the same type of handler so they don’t kill kids. Leave the torture devices at the petshart that is somehow allowed to sell them to unlicensed retards.

>>5121041
wait you’re the only person who shills these abusive devices here but you think only one person could disagree with you telling people to hurt their dogs?

/kot/ spy confirmed. begone.

>>5121042
Petsmart has prong collars? I had to fucking order mine. We're they 2.25mm or the super large ones like at Walmart?

>>5121043
I'm the only one here who supports corrective tools? Gtfoh no way. Anyway, I'd rather "hurt my dog" than literally let him become roadkill like one guy is dealing with as we speak. But I suppose you can get by without an e collar in his case. I just think it'll take longer and be a little more complicated

>>5121043
He doesn't even understand how to use ecollars or prongs as tools for training either. He is just saying, "hurt your dog enough/until they stop X behavior."

>>5121046
Using your brain instead of your fists and having a little patience too difficult for you?

>>5121046
>corrective tool
Shock collar. It is a weapon.

People who are on the side of truth do not need to hide what things are with 1984 style newspeak.

Shock collars are last resort weapons meant to stop a dog from doing something dangerous without question

>>5121048
the only way shock collars work as a tool is if the actual shock function isn’t used unless maulie the malinois bites the wrong homedog
>as the possibility of paid leave materializes before his eyes, officer jones suddenly regrets training his dog on the scent of dove for men and marijuana

>>5121060
>>corrective tool
>Shock collar. It is a weapon
You dropped the "s" I wrote there. You know, as a way to combine e and prong collars under that same umbrella without typing "e collar and shock collar" over and over?
>Shock collar
>Weapon
Lol you are quite funny though. Respect the hustle, but I am a retired master baiter, good sir. I know a bait when I see one

>>5121030
I did research on why she might be lunging and how people correct it. Apparently she's getting overstimulated by the car, which would make sense since she usually lunges at louder ones. That makes her go into a fight-or-flight mode where the only way she can feel safe is to lunge at it and scare it away. To her it works since the car keeps driving away.

>Problem is, you aren't telling her what she shouldn't be doing.
What she's doing is reacting to being overstimulated/scared/stressed and punishing her for doing that feels abusive. It's not like she can choose to react or not, and lunging is the only response she knows.

>I feel like a dog would get confused or misguided by getting treats when cars pass by and nothing when she goes to chase them
I agree, which is why I like what >>5121030 suggested. Not even necessarily having a command, just rewarding her for looking at me in general so she's sees it as a naturally good thing and does it for reassurance. Although having a command to focus on me and manage excitment seems like a good idea too. I don't want to force her to react in a certain way with pain, but teach her that there's an alternative reaction and let her choose it.

>>5121061
First off I am against e collars overall, BUT if you insist on using them it is worthwhile to at least comment on how to use them correctly when there are retards suggesting to use them incorrectly in this very thread.
First you must find the power level, which means slowly raising the power until you first see the dog react. Ears perk up, they may look around or seem like they notice something. You then lower the power down a few notches.
To use an e collar to train recall you would say your recall, hold the trigger until they start coming over, and then release.
There are also techniques where you can create positive association with the electric stimulus and it becomes almost like long range communication device for the dog that they will "hear" even in heightened states of arousal.
Only retards and actual dog abusers set it to max to administer punishment and doing that is no better than beating your dog when it doesn't listen to you.

>>5121070
You are the leader and you have to show/teach the dog what you want. Secondarily dogs need practice to control themselves, especially in heightened states of arousal. Behavior modification like you want will always take time and effort if you want a totally positive outcome from it.

>>5121066
Prong collars are even worse. People have accidentally put holes in their dogs necks using those. It is possible for dogs to stab themselves with even rounded prongs. It’s a design flaw.

All violent actions routinely done against a dogs neck are immoral anyways. They cause needless pain, suffering, and fear and accumulated cervical and tracheal damage even if you think its fine.

Proper dog training takes longer. That’s why these “corrective tools” are emergency options for dogs that are in, or causing danger.

>>5121071
They all have painful shock functions. Often on the remote. People are going to use them.

>>5121070
If it's fear based, then an e collar probably wouldn't work. It could, but there are better things