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Welcome to the Monero General, dedicated to the discussion of the world's leading decentralized P2P privacy cryptocurrency!

Monero is secure, low-fee, and fungible, meaning users can send XMR around the globe despite corrupt governments or broken financial systems. Innovative privacy features such as Ring Signatures, Stealth Addresses, and Ring CT ensure that Monero's blockchain is obfuscated -- In other words, the financial history of all Monero users is encrypted from the prying eyes of adversaries on a public blockchain, with transactions being visible only by a user willingly providing a view key.

Monero has also improved upon the scaling downsides of current popular cryptocurrencies. To avoid high fees, dynamic block size ensures that the size of the blocks will increase as the amount of transactions increases. Further, the mining network algorithm RandomX establishes that anybody with a CPU can participate in mining, preventing the ASIC miner domination that creates a high barrier to entry. Lastly, the mining network will be preserved by Tail Emission -- instead of the block reward falling to zero like with Bitcoin, the block reward gradually approached 0.6 XMR in June 2022, where it will forever stay. This constant linear inflation means the inflation rate will asymptotically go to zero while continuing to provide an incentive to miners to maintain the network.

If you still have questions, feel free to ask and a MoneroChad will be with you shortly.

XMR Redpill: https://yewtu.be/watch?v=wq6w03E2DS4

XMR Stats: moneroj.net

USE Monero: https://cryptwerk.com/pay-with/xmr/

OFFICIAL WEBSITE - getmonero.org

WHERE TO GET MONERO?

>KYC:
Kraken
Bitfinex

>Non KYC:
LocalMonero
Morphtoken
Bisq
Tradeogre
Crypto ATMs
see: kycnot.me

>Mining
archive.is/TWOah

HOW TO STORE MONERO?

>Desktop
Official Gui/Cli
Feather

>Mobile
IOS: Cakewallet
Android: Monerujo
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PREVIOUS THREAD: >>58650542
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START MINING IN P2POOL
>START MINING IN P2POOL
START MINING IN P2POOL
>START MINING IN P2POOL

P2Pool combines the advantages of pool and solo mining; you still fully control your Monero node and what it mines, but you get frequent payouts like on a regular pool.

P2Pool has no central server that can be shut down/blocked because it uses a separate blockchain to merge mine with Monero. There's no pool admin that can control what your hashrate is used for or decide who can mine on the pool and who can't. It's permissionless!

Decentralized pool mining (P2Pool) is pretty much the ultimate way to secure a PoW coin against 51% attacks. Once P2Pool reaches & maintains 51%+ of the total network hashrate, Monero will be essentially invulnerable to such attacks.

Although many inexperienced miners think that bigger pools give better profits, this is absolutely NOT the case. Your profits in the long run depend ONLY on your hashrate, NOT on the pool's hashrate.


>YOU CAN NOW MINE IN P2POOL FASTER & EASIER THAN EVER BEFORE WITH THE GUPAX GUI. USES TRUSTED REMOTE NODES BY DEFAULT!!!!

1. Download the *bundled* version of Gupax for your OS here: https://gupax.io/downloads/
2. Extract somewhere (Desktop, Documents, etc)
3. Launch Gupax
4. Input your Monero address in the [P2Pool] tab. USE A SEPARATE MINING-ONLY WALLET!
5. Select a Community Monero Node that you trust, although you can and should run your own node if possible.
6. Start P2Pool
7. Start XMRig

VIDEO GUIDE: https://gupax.io/guide/

You are now mining to your own instance of P2Pool, welcome to the world of decentralized peer-to-peer mining!

>NOTE THAT DUE TO BOTNET SHENANIGANS XMRIG IS AUTO-FLAGGED AS MALWARE BY MOST ANTI-VIRUSES, SO DON'T FREAK OUT!!!


OLD GUIDE FOR P2POOL MINING FROM THE MONERO GUI WALLET: https://pst.klgrth.io/paste/eecbe

https://www.reddit.com/r/MoneroMining
https://web.xmrpool.eu/xmr-monero-easy-mining-guide.html
https://monero.hashvault.pro/en/getting-started
https://www.supportxmr.com
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*****/XMR/ Monero General Info-Dump*****
>*****/XMR/ Monero General Info-Dump*****
*****/XMR/ Monero General Info-Dump*****
>*****/XMR/ Monero General Info-Dump*****


Learn more about Monero's key features and excellent future prospects, have some common misconceptions dispelled and discover the cold hard facts about Bitcoin, Zcash and PirateChain. Also featured is a noob-friendly buying, storage and wallet guide.


>Monero: it's what new Bitcoin users think they bought. Every feature, explained
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org


>Why Monero is so untraceable: a rundown of the powerful stealth tech Monero utilizes
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#MoneroIsUntraceable


>The Writing on the Wall: Monero replacing Bitcoin as the new standard
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#MoneroReplacingBitcoin


>Breaking News: no, Monero still isn't traceable
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org/#RecognizingTraceabilityFUD


>Vaporware: why nobody is worried about CipherTrace's magic crystal ball
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#CipherTraceFail


>Very Clever Math: how we can verify that the XMR supply isn't being inflated
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org/#MuhInflationBug


>Pssst, wanna buy some Monero? Follow these simple how-to guides
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#BuyAndStoreMonero


>Bitcoin: The Original Non-Fungible Token
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#BitcoinBlackpill


>Why Monero is Better than Zcash: the "privacy coin" criminals won't touch
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#ZcashBlackpill


>The Lowdown on PirateChain: why this Zcash clone is considered a scam
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#PirateChainBlackpill


>LATEST UPDATES

- added Proof-of-Stake update to Zcash Blackpill
- added list of available desktop/mobile wallets
- expanded all sections with more relevant info, graphics & videos
- added easily linkable headers and sub-headers (link icon to the far right)
- added a new section about traceability FUD
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Never forget what this is ultimately all about.

https://anarkio.codeberg.page/agorism/
https://freedomcells.org/

>Help grow the circular Monero economy: buy/sell goods & services with/for XMR!

https://monerica.com/
https://moneromarket.io/
https://www.reddit.com/r/moneromarket/new/
https://kycnot.me/?t=service&q=&xmr=on

>Live off XMR with Cake Pay (now available in 140+ countries!)
https://cakepay.com/

>or with CoinCards (currently US & CA only, UK, EU & AUS coming soon)
https://coincards.com/


>Monero stickers for guerilla marketing
http://monerosupplies.com/

>Monero-only VPS hosting
https://kyun.host/

>Monero-only bullion shop
https://monerometals.com/

>Buy on Amazon with XMR!
https://monezon.com
https://peershop.app

>Win XMR!
https://monero.vegas/
https://sigmanero.org/

Say buh-bye to Bitcoin and support the growing number of Monero-only darknet markets/vendors.

# = recently launched, exercise caution

>Alias Market #
>Archetyp
>Asur Market
>Babylon #
>Calypso #
>Candy Haven #
>Chimera Market
>Cloud Market
>Cypher Market
>Dark Matter
>DrugHub #
>DrugTown #
>Drugula #
>FilthyFellas
>Gofish Market #
>Gramazon #
>Hectate Market #
>Mercury Market #
>Pygmalion's Refuge
>Retro Market
>Smackers
>Sonanza Market #
>Squid Market
>SuperMarket #
>Tribe Seuss
>Whales Market #
>Wizard's Palace #
>World Trade Center #
Links: https://pastebin.com/raw/fF95wTNi


>LocalMonero is now available on I2P
http://lm.i2p/nojs/


Anonymously exchange BTC for XMR using a reputable darknet service

>Majestic Bank
>Infinity Project
https://pastebin.com/raw/75mVpfED


or a reputable clearnet service

https://trocador.app/en/ | I2P: http://trocador.i2p/en/
https://xmrswap.me/
https://unstoppableswap.net/


>Want to support further development?
https://ccs.getmonero.org/donate/
https://monerofund.org/

>Join a Monero Workgroup and (potentially) earn XMR!!!
https://www.getmonero.org/community/workgroups/

>Want more Monero-chan?
https://www.monerochan.art/
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START RUNNING AN I2P NODE
>START RUNNING AN I2P NODE
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>What is I2P?

I2P is an anonymized P2P overlay network akin to the Tor network but with several key advantages over it. I2P will thus play a pivotal role in growing the Monerocentric economy.


>Why should I care? Why should I run a node?

Increasing shadow economy adoption and the proliferation of an XMR-only standard are what guarantee that XMR will have a floor and won't also crash to zero when the Crypto Casino finally implodes. XMR's long-term outlook is therefore *strongly* correlated with the darknet, you may have already noticed how the number of TXs begins to drop whenever the glowies attack & cripple the Tor network, which underscores just how critical it is that the darknet wins this war against the State. Make no mistake: if the darknet is allowed to die XMR will take a devastating hit as well.

So by running an I2P node you are helping to make the network Monero thrives in that much more robust while also enraging glowies in the process. Win-win!


>OK, but how difficult is it? Do I have to store GBs worth of data like when running an XMR node?

It is literally as easy as installing an Android app and no, there are no storage requirements, the node only consumes some bandwidth.


>Cool, I'm sold. What do?

If you have no interest in browsing the darknet yourself then the simplest solution is to install & run the I2Pd Android app on any compatible (Android 4.1+) device, ideally a TV box since they don't require recharging and are permanently online. But any old phone or tablet is fine too. Make sure you activate "start on boot" in the settings.

https://github.com/PurpleI2P/i2pd-android/releases/latest


Otherwise just install the appropriate desktop client and leave it running.

https://github.com/PurpleI2P/i2pd/releases/latest


The console is accessed via http://127.0.0.1:7070/ or the menu in Android.
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>Bitcoin's price = NOT the result of organic real-world supply & demand = NOT sustainable

Wash trading has been artificially driving BTC's insane price action since the first major spike in 2013.

>Wash Trading 101
1. create/maintain the illusion of high volume
2. wait for poor unsuspecting fools to FOMO in
3. dump at a fat profit and leave them holding the bag

When the supply of gullible fools finally runs out, the entire scheme implodes.

TL;DR: exciting price action means nothing in an unregulated market rife with such manipulation, real-world utilization is the ONLY reliable metric of actual value.


>No tail emission = Bitcoin is fucked

Right now, at the current hashrate, miners break even on energy expenses at a BTC price of $22K. Post 2024 halving, that break even point, at the current hashrate, goes up to $44K. If BTC does not go to $44K, miners will be unprofitable and hashrate will have to drop (miners going out of business) to reduce the cost of securing the network, also reducing the security.

If you know anything about the power of 2, you already know that things get very big, very fast. If we’re 3 halvings into 32 total halvings, then the estimated break even point for miners at current hashrate going into the last halving would be:

$22,000 * (2^27) = $2,952,790,016,000 per BTC

$2,952,790,016,000 per BTC * 21 Million total BTC = $62,008,590,336,000,000,000 BTC Market Cap

The block rewards shrink so fast that after enough halvings BTC would eventually require a $2.95 trillion price per BTC and a $62 quintillion market cap to sustain the current cost of $7.15 billion/year.

Even if these numbers were somehow realistic, can you imagine securing a $62 quintillion market cap on only $7.15 billion/year of hashrate? LOL

So basically BTC mining will eventually become so unprofitable the hashrate (network security) will shrivel up UNLESS it is subsidized by BTC transaction fees.

https://cryptostackers.substack.com/p/bitcoin-is-not-a-store-of-value
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>>58768323
Lets go Monerobros! $1000 EOY. 10k easy as soon as everyone realizes what they've been fading
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>>58768323
Scam pedo cryoto. Cry moar faggots.
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>>58768323
Also can anyone explain why Monero hasn't kept up with Metcalfe's law lately? Price was tracking it perfect til 2019 now it should be 5k but has been holding back. Are feds suppressing the pump or what?
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>>58768446
TNN simple as. What incentive do exchanges have to list the fair price when most XMR users are either highschool drugfags or daytraders who never withdraw to their own wallet? Xmr is too good to make money.
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>>58768463
What's TNN?
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>>58768446
>Also can anyone explain why Monero hasn't kept up with Metcalfe's law lately? Price was tracking it perfect til 2019 now it should be 5k but has been holding back. Are feds suppressing the pump or what?

1. Don't expect rational outcomes from a highly irrational and manipulated market.
2. Organic growth isn't parabolic. But it is reliable over the long term.
3. Don't buy Monero.
4. Moonfags get the rope.
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>>58768467
>What's TNN?

Oh, he's just one of our resident demoralization trolls, just ignore.
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>>58768510
Don't be a goose. Years of suppression means Monero is primed for a pump. With Haveno all we need now is to get a little hype going, spread some memes, push it past $167 and we are gonna fly
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>>58768533

Hype-fueled pump & dump trading = incessant price instability = all-round bad for business. Sometimes it gets so bad that darknet vendors are forced to cancel orders because they can't afford to eat the losses.

So if you actually care about growing the circular Monero economy then cool it with the NGU faggotry. Let it happen organically.
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>>58768548
What are you on about? Monero is the perfect SoV just like gold. It's fungible has low inflation and can't be tracked by the feds. I have been stacking it for years it's at an unbelievable discount right now there's no way I'm throwing it away on darknet junk
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>>58768594

If you're not spending regularly you're not helping.
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>>58768602
Yeah I am I'm providing demand for Monero and paying miners for securing the network which is most important. But I'm not a consoomer and not gonna waste what will be the number one crypto on internet junk I don't need. Don't throw pearls before swine goes the verse
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>>58768323
pedo coin
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>>58768646
You mean the anonymity/untraceability of Monero works well, even for pedos?
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>>58768073
Right now it's more of a wild west thing but I think it will pick up steam quickly.
I fully trust my governemnt to be absolutely unreasonable on crypto and privacy coins. They will probably demand full disclosure on all personal crypto holdings and retroactively track large purchases.
I want to do it in a way as if a tax office agent is looking over my shoulder.
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>>58768646
>repeating the tactics they used on btc
>thinks no one will notice
bullish
>>58768426
already a moonboi thread, hm
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Reporting in
##################################
IRC - https://pastebin.com/kP1gZ1Hk (embed)
Education - https://pastebin.com/V0SFR8qU (embed)
Mining - https://pastebin.com/Rd1V8P5L (embed)
Nodes - https://pastebin.com/j6Vv2Xn6 (embed)
##################################
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Hello frens,

How would I buy a 4chin pass now with XMR? 4chin has fucked their payment system up and only use coinbase now which is worse than AIDS. How can I get around using the unbelievably gay centralized wallets Coinbase forces you to use when using their payment system?
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>>58769475
Buddy don't throw away your hard earned XMR giving jannies raises. You gotta stack that shit.
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>>58769475
I just checked what you're talking about. I guess I won't be renewing that pass.
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>>58769677

Right? What the fuck is this new system about? It fucking sucks. The old one was super easy to use but Coinbase is the most AIDS chicken swinger bullshit I've ever seen in the crypto space. The fuck do I was to use some centralized identity connected wallet for in the crypto space??? That is completely counter the entire idea of crypto. 4chon going this way is so gay.
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>>58769475
can some fren sell you a pass on moneromarket for unbelievable jewish price?
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>>58768323
>LocalMonero
it's fucking dead, what's tge alternative?
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I summon the force of combined autism to reveal the exact location of pic related. It‘s in Berlin, Germany.
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>>58769953
swap btc into it if you don’t have access to one of those p2p trading groups
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>>58769953
Buy BTC with Peach Bitcoin and swap it for XMR.
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>>58770014
background to this photo? some venue or meeting or whatever?
very wide sidewalk. has to be really central
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>>58769572
Straw man argument. No one here is claiming monero is digital gold.
Also you're mixing up XRP (ripple) and XMR (monero) again.
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>>58769572
I take that back, there's this guy >>58768594.
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>>58769310
I'm a failed cybersecurity neophyte that took the online courses pill. I now have had my Security+ for more than a year and still have failed to find a job. It really is just a meme. But at least I know a lot about privacy and corporate gatekeeper network defense tools. I think I should just cut my losses and become a bug bounty hunter or black hat hacker at this point
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>>58768594
Monero is more like a digital tally stick or perhaps hawala but on the Internet. If you look at the process it's actually almost exactly the same except with trust replaced by cryptography.
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What hardware is most optimal for hash/$ spent on power, if upfront cost can be high? Epyc?
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>>58770413
If you stopped at just that one cert then yeah, it's a meme for you. Buck up and deal with the 12-18 months of helpdesk like everybody else, then use that experience in tandem with your certs to weasel into something better.

Learning marketable skills from a place that isn't a 4-year college isn't a meme, anon.
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>>58770680
ryzen 9 will treat you fine <3
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>>58770028
>>58770040
why the fuck would i get this worthless coin instead of keeping btc if i have to swap it through btc anyway?
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>>58771517
people won't admit it but EVERY SINGLE TIME a massive cyber ransom occurred monero pump like crazy
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I just read the bitcoin whitepaper. Now onto monero.
As I understand there is no "monero whitepaper"
Is it the crypto note whitepaper + additional documents on getmonero?
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>>58768323
tldr ano, waiting some fund to buy a high end CPU for mining, kek, I guess it is too late vesta, would you like to sponsor me ano?
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>>58769475
https://discuss.privacyguides.net/t/how-do-i-buy-a-4chan-pass-without-kyc/17942/3
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>>58771615
cryptonote v2 by Nicholas Van Saberhagen
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>>58771658
>In the Coinbase Wallet app, click on the icon than looks like [] to scan the QR code. Now your Coinbase Wallet app will be connected.
I don't get it. Does coinbase let you send and receive funds with no kyc? Why not do this with metamask instead?
Also just use trocador jesus
>>58771670
Thank you. I found this annotated version. Looks neat
https://web.getmonero.org/resources/research-lab/pubs/whitepaper_annotated.pdf
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>>58770829
5950X isn't bad, true, but it earns too little XMR per month IMO at 16.5 kH/s. I use this PC like 99% for mining and 1% for games, so I think I'd be okay with lower clock speeds and NUMA in exchange for more cores in one box. I could build more 5950X boxes but there's RAM, PSUs, cases, mobos, liquid coolers (for quiet operation at constant 100% CPU load) to buy for each, and that drives cost so high I started thinking about aiming for even higher core density builds.
I'm reluctant to only browse xmrig benchmarks, since they don't say anything about CPU overclock and they don't list all RAM timings, which probably is what made someone's 5950X reach 8 kH/s more than mine.
I'm surprised how little mining is discussed in those threads anyway, I thought you'd all have your own miners to "secure the network" even a bit?
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>>58771942
Just stop dude >>58768561
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>>58771942
Perfection is the enemy of complete. Keep looking, though.
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>>58771942
>I thought you'd all have your own miners

I'm mining casually, I do not care much about profit and energy cost, they are pennies anyway. I don't think anybody is building rigs specially for XMR mining, it is not prifitable. Botnet or ready to go solution ("monero asics", actually multi-cpu boards) probably are your best choices if you want to mine for profit.
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lol we're on quite the roll lately, yet another clearnet merchant discovers that XMR is overtaking BTC for crypto payments. Hot on the heels of CoinCards and ShopInBit. REALLY starting to tire of all this winning.

Cue the salty demoralization troll reassuring us that this means absolutely nothing and that Monero is still doomed kek.
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keep fighting for freedom brothers
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How do I buy lsd with this
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>>58768073
>>58768869
you see this shit? yes they care
https://www.focus.de/experts/vermoegensregister-geplant-eu-will-umfassende-datenbank-zum-vermoegen-aller-buerger-aufbauen-was-dahinter-steckt_id_260158959.html
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>>58776134
In minecraft.
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>>58768646
this is a Monero thread, please make your own thread for general U.S. Dollar discussion.
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>>58776067
The first rule of drugs is if you have to ask, you don't deserve to know. The second rule is don't do hallucinogens by yourself.
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>>58776134
lol they can try.
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>>58769475
Back in the day this is how I did it: The Coinbase payment page didn't open on Tor Browser but it did open on Brave's Tor tab. I then transferred to there through some swap accessed through Tor.

To use the Pass itself anonymously through Tor, there is a limitation: 4chan has this retarded Pass rule where the IP can only change every 15 minutes. If it changes more often, it doesn't let you post. This completely breaks being able to use the Pass through normal Tor because on Tor the IP changes very often. To prevent Tor from changing IP I found you can explicitly select which exit nodes it will use. So I selected one manually from here:
https://metrics.torproject.org/rs.html#search/flag:Exit%20running:true
And specified it in the torrc config file with ExitNodes. I have no idea why 4chan makes it this pain in the ass. I though the payment is already supposed to be the barrier to limit abuse. Most likely they just don't give a shit.
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bleeding sats forever. feel sorry for anyone that falls for this scam.
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>>58770014
tried to look around a bit but I cant seem to find it, 4 bollards and a corner isn't much to go off...
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>>58776980
>The rules of drugs
Ok reddit
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>>58778427
>sats

Say hi to Paolo for me. Printing season will soon be upon us.

>feel sorry for anyone that falls for this scam.

Bitfags truly are the most considerate bros in crypto. Always endeavoring to save the misguided masses from falling for the altcoin scam.

$100K BTC end of year.
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What do her panties smell like?
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>>58779839
>What do her panties smell like?
Privacy
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what's the safest, most reliable place to buy now that localmonero is gone? btw am i a retard for using paypal? that's kind of been my preferred method just because i can get it faster.
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>>58779839
Cringe coomer.
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>>58770014
Why do you ask anon? Berlin is full of these Monero stickers. I mean hundreds if not thousands.
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Monero Research Lab 24th of July meeting, AI summary:

>Stress testing of the Monero network (stressnet) is ongoing, with about 25 nodes currently participating.

>Mining on the stressnet helps test re-org and orphan block behavior.

>Full Chain Membership Proofs (FCMP) implementation is progressing, expected to be ready for stressnet testing in 3-4 months.

>A new addressing protocol called Carrot (Cryptonote Address on Rerandomizable-RingCT-Output Transactions) was discussed for potential deployment alongside FCMP++.

>Carrot aims to provide forward secrecy, outgoing view key properties, and Janus attack protection while remaining backwards compatible with existing addresses.

>Debate occurred on whether Carrot should be implemented with FCMP++ or later, considering potential fingerprinting issues and implementation challenges.

>Concerns were raised about the complexity of implementing Carrot alongside FCMP++ and the impact on various wallet implementations.

>The need for a formal audit of the Carrot protocol was discussed, with plans to draft a detailed document for review.

>Discussion on whether new transaction versions or relay rules would be necessary to implement Carrot effectively.

>Consideration of the timeline for finalizing specifications and allowing sufficient time for implementation and testing across different wallets and codebases.

>Potential UI changes and seed format considerations for supporting new address types were briefly touched upon.
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>>58782246

Thanks for posting these, keep it up.
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lol a Bitcoin lobbying org (wtf) is begging the UK govt to not sell seized BTC currently slated for auction.

>Bitcoin Policy argues the government is ‘duty bound’ to avoid policies that may lower the price of citizen-held and government-controlled bitcoin, and that it should, “take steps to preserve and enhance the value of the bitcoin that it holds on the nation’s behalf.”

>It then reiterates that the country should hold seized bitcoin as a Treasury reserve asset, and that it shouldn’t be sold in a similar manner to Germany’s bitcoin.

"crypto-anarchists" begging the State to not hurt their bottom line, what a fucking joke
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>btc and xmr going parabolic
Tomorrow's going to be fucking murderous.
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>>58784873
how the mighty have fallen
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You get a lot to like with Monero.
Filter. Flavor. Pack or box.
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>>58784873
Based, taxpayer dollars should go to pumping my bags.
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>>58786371
>actual crime with victims
Meanwhile people accuse Monero users of using a coin "for criminals".

Statists gtfo
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>>58786616
>druggies buy monero to feed their habit
>monero gets dumped for bitcoin
Thanks for pumping my bags degenerates
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>>58786616
>druglord from some cartel gets busted
>monero experiences very high volatility downside then upside then again downside when this event happens
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>>58786635
>Incoherent ramblings of a statist mind.
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>>58786685
So?
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>>58786707
so shit quoted on monero (usually weed and stuff) got more expensive for a few hours, that was funny
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dead gen



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