Delicious Silver Edition>Why Gold?https://youtu.be/i3S4rl6ehiIhttps://youtu.be/gksenA5Al_Ahttps://youtu.be/FI7NnOg2rxo>Huge deficits in minerals such as silver by 2050 inevitablehttps://youtu.be/iibsrDXdEos>Bullion dealershttps://libertycoin.com/ (US)https://www.chards.co.uk/ (EU/UK)https://www.silburycoins.co.uk/ (Ancient)https://www.luciteria.com/ (Other rare metals)more at:https://pastebin.com/gZfZHtNE>Numismatic searchhttps://en.numista.com/catalogue/https://www.ngccoin.com/price-guide/world/>News and graphshttps://numismag.com/en/home-en/https://silverseek.com/https://www.silverdoctors.com/https://www.mining.com/https://silverbacksnakes.io/finance/silverhttps://www.gold.org/goldhub/data/gold-reserves-by-countryhttps://wtfhappenedin1971.com/>Comparehttps://findbullionprices.com/ (US)https://eu.compare.pm/ (EU)https://www.gold.de/aufgeldtabelle/ (DE/EU)>Resourceshttps://www.jmbullion.com/ultimate-guide-to-90-silver-coins/https://kevinsworkbench.com/junksilverguide/https://www.coinflation.com/http://coinapps.com/https://erikasgrig.com/calculators/rpi-calculator-inflation/https://learn.apmex.com/buying-guide/buying-in-the-usa/https://pastebin.com/5aLmWUUK>Prospectinghttps://youtu.be/ZCL6FKQZyoM https://www.usgs.gov/programs/mineral-resources-program/sciencehttps://www.mndm.gov.on.ca/en/news/mines-and-mineralshttps://www.amazon.ca/Gold-Creeks-Ghostowns-British-Columbia/dp/088839988X>Nitric acid, magnets, and ping testhttps://youtu.be/3mg9YcAShTohttps://youtu.be/NgSXg-WOEVYhttps://youtu.be/2ymGAyKAg-khttps://www.fakebullion.com/index.php/resources/fake-bullion-databasePrevious Thread: >>59528036
you know what to do, /pmg/and happy new year
>>59539357Defaults can't wipe the debt because ALL money in circulation is created and propped up by these Treasuries. If you rugpull Treasuries then you rugpulled international trade, banks, insurance, the stock market, and cash itself.That's a worst case scenario because people will be trading in literal coinage they find under the couch with literally nothing else to facilitate trade. (I'd be a billionaire in that situation, fyi)
Does anyone stack boxes of nickels?
Or boxes of dimes?
>>59539431Is this considered a box?
>>Quarters are free at the laundromat and car wash. >>Zero premium on Zinc.
>>59539439>>ALL THE THINGS SHE SAID>>ALL THE THINGS SHE SAID>>RUNNING THROUGH MY HEAD>>RUNNING THROUGH MY HEAD>>ALL THE THINGS YOU SAID>>THIS IS NOT ENOUGHhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mGBaXPlri8
>>59539439nah i'm pretty sure thats a midgets bomb shelter.
>>I have the biggest boner for platinum
>>59539470Sourcing Platinum is the hardest thing I've ever had to do.
>>59539483>>THE WORLD NEEDS MORE PLATINUM STACKERS.
>Aggressive schizo shilling of non Gold/Silver metalThink i'll buy more Gold/Silver
>>59539470>All the silver mined througout history will barely ammount to a cube slightly higher than the statue of libertythis cant possible be truei know that those metals are rare but having it layed out like that thats barely anythingGold especially is tiny
>>59539654Keep in mind that's a pure cube of silver with a lot of it destroyed when used in missiles and bullets.
>>59539654These materials are extremely scarce and even the most prolific veins we have ever discovered when refined down to 9999 purity will be extremely scarce. It has only been very recently we have been able to employ modern technology to mining. The volume of a cube that large is also incredible large/dense than you might think it is
went to the store a couple hours ago after standup. lady there has a cart with a 1.75 of vodka, a big bottle of oj, some chapstick, and some advil. got a chuckle out of that.
>>59539772You just made that up.
>>59539783no. here is some cheese i bought to make sandwiches.
>>59539846Enjoy your listeria
Bitcoin, Ethereum and Solana mooning today...lmao this is too easy. Remember folx I got rich by not buying silver
>>59539857
>>59539866You live in the middle of cheese land and you picked that to buy
>>59539876for sandwiches, sure. i bought other stuff for pizza that you'd probably approve of.
>>59539862Said the bitch
>>59539887Keep feeding it, retard
Still funny to think that the only one on pmg making profits is me and mintanon and minty charges 386% premiums to retards for a commodity. Kektop!
>>59539675>and bulletsdawn werewolves
>>59539901Said the bitch
>>59539369Happy new year, fellow bullionaires!
>>59539423>stack boxes of nickelsExtreme Chad behavior.>cannot drop below 5cent valuation>real price discovery was hinted at in 2022>instant 5% gains, even at the suppressed price>over 60% instantaneous gains at the hinted at real price>only coinage that has not been debased since the golden age of US coinage>can acquire them for face value at the bank provided you're not a dirty Mexican narcissist
>>59539423>>59540010Stop, you're making me want to get rolls of nickels from the bank.
>>59540010IT'S ALMOST TOO EASY.
>>59540148>>GO GET THOSE FUCKING NICKELS YOU BROKE NIGGER !!>>CATCH ALL THE COINS!!
>>59540148putting shitty USA nickels in a jar instead of actual nickel nickelsThe composition of a Canadian nickel1922–1942: 99% nickel1946–1951: 99.9% nickel1955–1981: 99.9% nickelstay poor coppercuck
>>59540212>Canadian
>>59540223
Is it a bad idea to buy historical gold coins and such? They're just so cool...
>>59539470>>>I have the biggest boner for platinumI am buying platinum for research not so much stacking.
>>59540212You can't even throw away a paper cup without the printed code being traced back to the location it was manufactured as well as the EXACT truck that was used to transport it to the EXACT retail location. The fact that bags of rocks are showing up in commodity warehouses is 100% unbridled proof of inventory fraud. Auditors look out for this. If you claim you have a warehouse full of inventory ready to sell then you better be able to prove it exists. Otherwise your accounting records could be fraudulent and be used to defraud investors. So how can it be that a 10x in price of all these metals randomly pops off at the same time bags of rocks are showing up in warehouses?The real valuable material is being taken and the paper-derivatives are all that is going to be left. People will have options and futures for all kinds of shit and it is all going to be WORTHLESS. They just weren't ready to pull back the curtain this time. A few more years to defraud everyone is what is happening.
>>59539344Anyone got £90,000 pocket change to buy this?
Should I buy a 1oz bar of platinum? I have about $1000 cash doing nothing right now.
>>59540327Make sure it comes from a reputable dealer, but sure, why not.
>>59540319Starbucks is selling year of the snake cups with a little rubber snake on top
>>59540319It makes you question why would the "royal mint" make a 1kg proof gold coin with a snake on it??? Why not a pic of london bridge or some other famous landmark that represents their Country???But No, They go with a snake with chinese lettering!!!
Gold is not rare or scarce.
>>59540381And there we have it, shilling platinum earlier now shitting on gold, update your filter list lads.
>>59540278if you mean sovs and roosters and such, yeah those are great to buy.
>>595403782025 is the year of the snake in the Chinese calendar that's why.
>>59540397Says the person that hasn't posted a single ounce.>>Post METAL or GTFO!
>>59540397shatinum shills are the worst
>>59540405When did britain or any of their colonies become chinese territory? Whats their obsession of chinese calendars about??
>>59540345platinum is far less liquid than gold or silverthat's one reason why not
>>59540419they're a business. chinese people love PMs. there's a ton of super rich asian people all over the west these days
>>59540419>>China is the worlds biggest buyer of Gold.>>They will pay top dollar. >>Make the nicest cars, trains, and airplanes.>>Jeets make iphones with our gold scrap.>>Our futures have been sold to China and India.>>You don't have an iPad?
>>59540415Its the same schizo troll who shitted up and derailed the bant pmg a few months back with his nazi chicken cultist crap, I recognise the same unhinged pic clip editing.
>>59540420If a revaluation happens you'll be happy you have it. People will need valuable metals for money purposes and having a store of value will spread out much further than just the money metals. I keep two ounces of platinum just for the fun of having some skin in the game. Pd and Rd went on pretty amazing adventures price-wise in the last 15 years. If Pt does the same I will be quite happy if it does.
>>59540419You do know that The Royal Mint is an international company right? Also we got a massive influx after the CCP decided to come down hard on the Hong Kongers. The CCP broke the 50 year transition agreement so we're kinda duty bound to take in these British Hong Kong patriots.
>>59540425>businessI think it goes much further than that, when you see all the mints and the likes of the vatican and the world health organisation integrating "reptilian" type animals onto their coins, flags and buildings it starts looking a bit sinister.
>>59540452>we're kinda duty bound to take in these British Hong Kong patriotsYou are already a minority in your own capital, you are being genocided by your own sa*anic worshipping elite, You are not duty bound to take anyone.But i guess thats the mindset of someone who has been brainwashed into their own suicide.
>>59540419>When did britain or any of their colonies become chinese territory?Right about after they were sold to them ofc. Lol.I like dragons better myself.
>>595404470% chance of revaluation just like muh collapse muh hyperflation muh zombies....lmao better chance buying a lottery ticket.What's sad is y'all have given up and sitting around waiting for Armageddon. Me I'm rich now and even richer with crypto mooning again today and everyday.I'm blessed
>>59540490Said the bitch
>>59540441Lmao stacktard cult members can't stand competition for the silver scam you should welcome platinum bros but you need everyone for the silver ponzi Meanwhile you are irrelevant to crypto cuz we have trump, musk, fink the entire usa government. It's good to be on the winning team and not a scam victim like y'all
>>59540496You mean the Richie rich, lmao probs before your time kiddo. Anywho I made over $400K today how about you?
>>BANKS DON'T CHARGE PREMIUMS>>CREDIT UNIONS DON'T CHARGE PREMIUMS>>CAR WASH DON'T CHARGE PREMIUMS>>LAUNDROMAT DON'T CHARGE PREMIUMS>>7-ELEVEN AND GAS STATIONS WILL GIVE YOU A ROLL OF QUARTERS IF YOU ASK NICELY.
>>59540420I thought this to initially but from time to time I list an oz of platinum I bought a year ago on kijiji or fb marketplace and have my inbox full of interest by the end of the week. I've never sold, but the interest is there. Atleast at these prices.
>>59540441I have no idea what you're talking about.
>>59540502Said the bitch
You can never have enough silver!
>IQ is schizoanonNext you're going to tell me he made the chicken webms too.
>>59540516nice pic. what's the silver coin to the left of the gold coin in the center stack?
>>59540527Wow look at that $75 for 5 ounces of silver in Mexico....lmao remember tards bragging about paying $45 for a one ounce Eagle? Lmao that tard is so embarrassed he left the silver cult ponZi
>>59540555Said the bitch
>>59540542I wouldn't be surprised. He sold his bitcoin for silver and gold
kinda neat
lol
>>59540622Another coin i need to get
>>59540650>"I will eetz zee bugz"
>>59540574Gross, silver is the incel of currency. No one wants it.¡kektop!except y'all you think it will cure your incelism. Ackshully the loser who pushed that meme quit your cult. So you had better recruit another stacktard for your ponzi scheme
>>59540542>>DETROIT MAFIA METALS >>Vintage 2oz round.
>>59540545See >>59540716
>>59540650hi been a longtime
>>59540711Said the bitch
>>59540728We've got a tattoo-free version of silver girl.
>>59540669Imagine the eggs.>>59540732I lurk and post regularly but rarely anything with chickens because that one crazy jew tends to derail entire threads when I do.
>>59540748>Imagine the eggs.Indeed.
>>59540735NICE!>>Here's Bob as a token of gratitude.
>>59540728>>59540735Could you just imagine laying her down on your stack and filler her fertile womb with your seed?
>>59540752When I stare at the red light i bought for my chickens I feel so fucking strange.
>>59540516
>>59540852Anyone Stack diamonds, rubies, other gems?
>>59540860They come with a luxury premium that is more likely a function of "credit" than it is "capital". It will be nice to have but you can't invest in it and it will most likely lose purchasing power in relation to bullion.
Why is silver falling behind again, lmao you have been shilling posting ur dumb charts and graphs why do y'all keep losing?
>>59540905>>Saphires and Rubies seem to do well in the higher carats.
these precious tiddies make me hard like metal
>>59540817We chicken posting?
>>59540949
>>59540940>>YOU NEVER SEE A GOOD Normie stack.
chickens are haram in /pmg/shoo shoo
>>59540999Checked. >>The least you could do is post metal.
>>59540860Gems are not fungible. More like art in that experts are needed to evaluate. Also lots of fakes. More like numismatics than stacker assets. But some are pretty!
>>59541090this will come as a shock to you but gold and silver also require experts to evaluate. Usually also need a full lab with acids and a furnace or two.there's plenty of fake numismatic coins out there, but they're a lot more rare than fake bullion. A coin collector can tell with a bit of practice if a rare coin is real just by looking at it. That's impossible with fake bullion.
>>59541090>>No metal? >>I like gems for their manufacturing application.>>Rubies for CNC machines>>Diamonds to cut steel and glass and tech potential.>>Laser cutting equipment uses gems right?
>>59541102>>No metal.>>You'd be double shocked to learn the "experts" are mainly paper trading.>>They only track the metals you're tracking.>>Kike pocket watching fucks.
>>59540999>chickens are haram in /pmg/They're our best friends against da evil WEF.
>>59541102You are either a retard, a deliberate misinformation agent, or both. Passable fake gold and silver bullion is almost unheard of. If density, dimensions, and ping are not enough, picrel will be. But the reality is that purchasing bullion from reliable dealers is about as close to fool proof as anything in life.
>>59540940Damn, the feefees bro... My gramp offered me one of those for my Bday back when i was a kid. In € equivalent 100F "should" be worth 15 bux, but ofc it was more like 100€ worth of stuff you could purchase with those. I spent it all in Legos & bubble gums.
>>59541223that's a specialized item of equipment that most people don't have and don't know how to use. And it doesn't work on most bullionlike I said, you need an expert to verify bullion. Just because you happen to be an expert on verifying bullion doesn't mean everyone else is.
>>59541102>there's plenty of fake numismatic coins out there, but they're a lot more rare than fake bullion. A coin collector can tell with a bit of practice if a rare coin is real just by looking at it.At first i was shitting my pants at the idea of fakes numis. Then -as you said- with experience they don't hold a candle to the real deal, now i just laugh at fakes because most are so hilariously badly done. It's just annoying because you have to waste time getting refunded/return the fake shit (most of whom you purchase from ultra low quality pics on egay auctions). I've got a large mug full of those at home because most scammers/unknowing sellers don't even want to bother spending the money for a stamp to get it back.In truth it's even surprising how bad they are, especially ancient fakes. You'd think it shouldn't be too hard to replicate if our ancestors could make those with very basic tools 2000+ years ago. Maybe the market is too tiny and the amateurs too autistic for the chinks to bother, so it's only made by retards from north african shitholes and drunkards from baltic mudholes?
>>59541300yep the rarer the coin is the less likely it is to be faked. Lots of common coins being faked, but the valuable stuff is a lot harder to fake very well. After you've seen a few fakes they stand out like a sore thumb.but still it requires a bit of experience and practice to spot them. I'd guess gems are a similar situation.
>>59539576mexican bitcoin shill, Platinum schizoid, chicken Nazi derailers. Boy, /pmg/ sure does attract the weirdos. I must be in the right general.
>>59541282>>59541300>>59541332>>59541333checked.>>All I see is is a bunch of faggots that don't know how to post photos of precious metals.>>Perhaps they're poor.>>Disgusting.
>>59541366do you need some attention?
>>59541332>Lots of common coins being fakedTrue, i wouldn't be surprised if 50%+ of all fakes cast worldwide are nothing but peace dollars + Morgan.Even the most common fake numis coins i see on sale on ebay are Napoleon 5 Francs and Indochina's 1 piastre coins (ofc it's a frog centric perception). And they always copy the most common years & mints. The originals aren't rare by any stretch of the imagination, but i guess they target those because they are popular outside of France.And they always look like crap, especially the faces.
>>59541102>gold and silver also require experts to evaluatelol no they don'tif illiterate medieval peasants could figure it out i think u can too with a little effort
>>59541422>if illiterate medieval peasants could figure it out i think u can too with a little effortpeasants didn't deal in gold and silverfaking technology wasn't nearly as advanced thenroyalty that dealt in gold and silver used laboratories to verify itfake coins were a huge problem back then despite all thatif anything fake bullion has gotten much more advanced while the average person's ability to detect it has gone way down simply because nobody uses the stuff anymore.
>>59541405I wrote up a whole reply and it disappeared?I wonder where my post went?yeah cast copies are usually really bad. Restrikes and reproductions are better, but those are usually catalogued somewhere. I see all of them for sale pretty often though.
>>59541450>peasants didn't deal in gold and silverwrong
>>59541464How about this-people who had gold and silver weren't peasants
>>59541464probably more interesting is the technology we still use to verify bullion was invented before the medieval period. Fire and wet assays were in use in ancient times and continued right up to now with relatively little advancement.
Brehs, silver up - gold down?? Can a wise man explain this to dum dum?
>>59539344I've been buying silver every week, I wanna start buying gold but I could only probably afford an oz around 3 times per year, I've almost bought 1/4 oz gold coin multiple times but it's so small I always walk away and buy silver instead. What's the smallest denomination you should buy with out getting screwed by the premium
>>59542105depends how long you plan to hold it. The premium eats up a year or two of gains on tiny gold, but if you're holding longer than that it probably won't matter.I used to buy 1/10th ozt for $33 and feel bad about paying $5 premium, but by now I don't mind that I paid such a high premium. It doesn't seem so high anymore.
>>59542115Lmao, stacktards continue to prove they are terrible at math and investing
>>59542479
>>59542479If I bought at $38 and sold at $260, what's my ROI?enlighten me oh wise cholo
>>59541102>Usually also need a full lab with acids and a furnace or two.Well thats just a bold faced lie.Every single shop ive ever taken my silver to has taken less than half a minute to verify my metals authenticity to 0.1% purity with just a spectrometer.
>>59542583yep, that only verified the top fraction of a millimeter of the metal, and most people don't have a spectrometer. you're dealing with experts who can verify your bullion. Verifying bullion requires expertise. And some equipment. And if it's questionable, you need a lab.
>>59542489You are a bad liar but low IQ stacktards will believe you. The premium on 1/10th ounce gold is about 25% so you are throwing away more than an ounce of gold for every four ounces of 1/10th ounce "coins" you buy>Bbbbbut it doesn't matter if I throw away ounces of goldLmao ok sure that's why stacktards are broke losers
>>59542602I thought you said I was the "only successful investor aside from you."I don't know what current premiums are on tenth ounces. I don't buy them anymore. But I do know if you sit on gold long enough you'll get the premium back even if it's over 100% because gold beats inflation and goes up consistently.
>>59541450Its way easier and cost effective make fake paper money also easier to distribute it and pass it off to a layman than making fake bullion, distributing and succesfully passing it off into circulation as real thing without being caught.Also the equipment to detect fake money is even less accessible to normies than simple acid test/spectrometer. Still Cash is widely used everywhere.
>>59542612OH and also forgot to add, u said that nobody can detect fake pms since nobody uses it anymore which is also a lie but lets go with it. Cash is used alll the time and still people are terrible at detecting fakes.
>>59542612>>595426191. saying bullion requires expertise to verify doesn't mean no other things require expertise to verify2. I didn't say NOBODY can detect fake metals or NOBODY uses them anymorethat's 2 false dichotomies you invented instantly, are you perhaps autistic?
>>59542592So why do people use cash all the time if nobody has the actual equipment or knowledge to verify its authenticity at any time they choose to?
>>59542636where do you live?where I live everyone uses credit or debit cards which don't require authentication and are backed by the bank as good. physical cash is reserved for the poor, disenfranchised, and criminal types.
>>59542641So are you arguing pms are for criminals/poor/dusenfranchised? Or why did you change the subject? Can you answer the question without immeadetly resorting to goalpostmoving and ad hominems?Why is Cash still widely used in EVERY country if an average person doesnt have the immeadiate know how to recognize fakes or the specialized equipment to verify its authenticity himself?
>>59542607>enough you'll get the premium back even if it's over 100%Lmao >Just assume my exaggerating what I forgot 20 years ago doesn't matter just imagine gold goes up forever in a straight line and just assume throwing away ounces of gold doesn't matterLmao stacktard math
>>59542667>pms are for criminals/poor/dusenfranchised?How is this not true? Are not stacktards poor incel losers? Lmao they cry all day they are victims and their only hope in life is nuclear war zombie apocalypse after which they can buy a virgin for a dime
>>59542667>why did you change the subject?you changed the subjectI said pm's require experts to verify and for some reason you went off about paper money.>Can you answer the question without immeadetly resorting to goalpostmoving and ad hominems?what goalposts?what do I win if I argue all day with a retard?
>>59542690Oh hi Iqdelete. Why dont you go find some used condoms or something. adults are trying to talk here.
>>59541377stop replying to him, he gets paid an extra cacao bean for each one he gets
>>59542698Ill take your refusal of answer as a admittance of defeat. Now post picture of stack or GET THE FUCK OUT OF MY THREAD
>>59542748>GET THE FUCK OUT OF MY THREADlolI've been in "your" thread longer than you have.
>>59542667>Can you answer the question without immeadetly resorting to goalpostmoving and ad hominems?no he cant
>>59542756All stacktards have are low IQ racism and low IQ vulgar name calling. I understand their bitterness at being failures but the answer isn't to throw away their $ it's to get rich by starting a business or getting a job both of which they refuse to do
>>59542479>>59542602>>59542683>>59542690Said the bitch
>>59542765Said the bitch
>>59542756>no he cantI won't because it assumes comparing people's trust in paper money is equal to people's trust in metals. if you hand me a wad of cash I'll probably take itif you hand me a lump of metal I'm going to drill it and assay it. just because counterfeiting money will land you in prison but selling me random metal puts the burden of verification on me, not you.
I love steak, I want steak everyday, I dont care if I die from heart attack, give me bloody barley cooked steak
will the mexcrement ever post his portfolio?or will he continue to prove hes a stacklet nocoiner larper?
>>59542801IQ doesn't have any money.either he shills here for pennies or he lost his last $200 on the silver scam and then spent all day every day for the next 5 years raging about it. Either way he's very poor.
Broke low iq racists seething that they got beat in life . Lmao I told you how to get rich last year. Now you missed out on 150% gains and you are letting your low IQ racism prevent you from earning the next 1000% gains. That's ok like a crackhead you serve as an example and many people will be saved by seeing your investment failures
>>59542811My condo in Los Cabos needs cleaning, IQget to work
Ain't you got a beach to clean IQDELET?
>>59542815Lmao, seethe more and brag more how you gave ounces of gold away to peter Schiff so he could get another lambo>Giving away gold doesn't matter it makes me very Le Smart investor ...it just does m'kayLmao
>>59542824what does a timeshare in Cabo cost? How much money do you need to earn to buy one?a mexican should know this.
Why are stacktards bitter? Since pmg started they missed out on 18,000% gains.Generational wealth....poof...gone...lmao back to the wage cageSo they stew in their misery instead of getting the next 18,000%Good warning to newbs, do you wanna be rich and free or a bitter loser praying for Armageddon while screeching racial slurs at Bulgarians
>>59542840>Timeshare We've been through this before tard, timeshares are the only investment worse than retard rocks . Quit discrediting yourself
>>59542852>We've been through this before tard, timeshares are the only investment worse than retard rocksthat's not an investment.that's $45k USD I threw away to have a nice place to stay in your incredibly cheap country.and it's proof I'm a millionaire. They don't sell those to poors
>>59542736Cacao beans are a better money than btc.
>>59542856wait you just said that pms are for the poor only? oh wait im talking to IQDELETE, the broke mexican retard that has no metals
>>59542874no I said cash is for the poor.I haven't touched paper money in almost 25 years. I wouldn't know what to do with it.I touch gold and silver every day.
>>59542856>45k USD I threw away Yes, and you could have bought it for $15,000 which is still dumb>to have a nice place to stay in your incredibly cheap country.Lmao, you still have to pay another charge every year. And are stuck in shitty rooms in shitty locations. You pay more in fees than those shit rooms cost and are locked in forever >and it's proof I'm a millionaire. No it's proof you aren't financially savvy>They don't sell those to poorsThey sell them to middle class idiots like you
>>59542880>you could have bought it for $15,000 which is still dumbI bought three.
>>59542881Still dumb premiumboy, lmao you can pay another $45000 to get out of your contract
>>59542880>They sell them to middle class idiots like youyou call me bob. That's not my name. to get invited to the sales presentation you have to make six figures per year. A bit more than most middle class.
>>59542884It's dumb to you because you are poor.I normally blow more on a week of vacation than you make in ten years.
Boy, he's working overtime today.
>>59542811Said the bitch
>>59542807lmao that would actually make a lot of sense, i bet some coin dealer scammed him so now hell just seethe on /pmg/ for the rest of his life
>>59542978yeah He posted a pic of his silver a couple years back. I probably have it on my hard drive somewhere.
>>59542847Said the bitch
>>59542887>to get invited to the sales presentationLmao you have enough credit to get invited to the shearing>>59542892>>59542892You overpay to stay in shitty timeshares that have a bigger premium than frog rounds. You tards love making salesmen rich because you are too lazy to research a good vacation and hotel..... spiritual cattle
>>59542991Said the bitch
>>59543004That pic is about half right but not as simple as you think it is.
>>59543004Buying Bitcoin solves your poverty then you can stop blaming your failures on other people. Lmao I know you want to be lazy but it's not hard to buy an etf you can get rich like me
>>59539344What is the best place to buy silver in the EU? I don't wanna pay tax.
>>59543028The reality is the government wants you to buy retard rocks. That ensures you will always be poor and not a threat. You will wage your life away then sit in your tiny apartment waiting for muh collapse instead of being a man or taking any action against your masters. Good little balless cattle
>>59543046ETFs
>>59543049Said the bitch
>>59543004This makes no sense when IQDELET is a proxy for the banking clans.
>>59543075It is true that blackrock and other financial institutions made me richer. Lmao you tards still can't figure out how to open a brokerage account. SAD!
>>59543091
Happy birthday to real e_gold Bitcoin. You have freed so many of us from the wage cage forever grateful!
>>59543046France have no taxes on silver coins & demonetized, but have VAT on rounds & bars.Switzerland have no taxes on PMs, but is outside of the EU so customs might charge you with local taxes.Idk much about the others countries' specifics; but there probably are more with no taxes on silver.Desu the best way to not give a fuck about taxes is to purchase 2nd hand from private sellers. That's what is your pic, it was a set of 2 rolls of 1960 5F directly from the bank of France an oldfag still had in his drawer. He teared apart the rolls to take a pic of the coins for ebay lol... that's why they all look pristine. He was retarded for doing this sacrilege, but all that to say if you buy from FBmarketplace/ebay/LBC/etc.. you not only leave zero paper trail behind you, but you also wont get taxed on anything, no matter where you live within the EU (or even outside, you simply ask the seller to declare no value on the custom form).
What the fuck happened last year?Shouldn't this be a bad sign for markets
>>59543218Damn, metalturds down 100% plus last year against Bitcoin no wonder they are so salty
>>59543218China's economy is collapsing. The Chinese are buying gold to protect their savings or to smuggle it out of China.That's why the gold price has been going up so much while the USD has also been going up (the Chinese are also hoarding dollars).
Can no one still explain the decrease in paper silver?
>>59543218Looks to me like someone is putting their belongings into the liferaft. Looks like the shills want you to stay away from gold and buy BTC. I'm of the opinion that gold is often meant to stay elevated enough to be unaffordable to the median income. Whatever the average income level is, people are not supposed to be able to pay their bills and live their lives and have enough to buy gold. The want people to be consumers and not net-buyers of capital goods. The more money you make you are more and more likely to be technically savvy and/or vetted by HR-hens, and they can't realistically price everyone out of gold. As the price of gold increases, I believe it may be forecasting a new normal that commodity prices will be going up and to get people to tread water, possibly wages may be going up in nominal (but not real) terms.
>>59543247>opinion that gold is often meant to stay elevated enough to be unaffordable to the median incomeI've always thought that too.
>>59543242Many silver contracts stood for delivery and likely were not rolled over once the purchases were made.
>>59543251It makes sense as it diverts people's investment and spending habits back in to:1) Credit investments, stocks, bonds 401ks, 2) Leveraged purchases: House, car, etc3) Services/Entertainment4) Renewable commodities: Foods and vicesAll of these things propel the system via sales taxes & velocity of money and none of them draw down against the ponzi. The tax structure aids in this as well by enticing people to defer consumption by handing over ALL of their savings to Wallstreet to chase after some basis points. As the system begins to show cracks and strains, suddenly they need to raise the price to keep people from stepping off of the Wild Ride. Cashing in your financial assets and chasing after NON LEVERAGED capital goods is how you throw a wrench into the system. It's so bad that commodity warehouses are filled with bags of rocks because the real-deal is so cheap that everyone who understands the ponzi-nature wants to lock in scarce goods, commodities and investments and leave the bags with the plebs. BTC is a credit-sponge that is a looming 90% loss when the credit gets yanked out of the system people won't have the jobs or the money to support these luxury investments, collectibles, and craft beers and bourbon.
>>59543272Nor will they be buying $1M houses with cash if the banks aren't there to lend. I had a family member tell me that he house doubled in price from when he bought it 5 years ago and opined that he could see it being worth half a million in 10 years. That scenario is only possible if the banks are actually healthy enough to lend and as it stands the banks are in dire straights and the populace can't even afford housing as it is because their wages are all getting squeezed. The banks have done all they can at this point to prop asset prices and what is left at the edge of this cliff is deflationary collapse of the service economy, bankruptcies and foreclosures and massive write-offs of bogus IOUs. And the way the banks have historically dealt with this is to revalue commodities and labors downward to drown out the debts and they have always done so against the assets they own which is gold. BTC will get pulled down with as people become impoverished. Banks will happily honor your gold because they are undercapitalized and they need your capital to lend! It's an evil system but you don't have to be a victim of it. Unfortunately it works in such a way that it necessarily preys on the masses.
My pirates finally arrived today.All hail mintanon
>>59543242I dont beleive usdebtclock has the real numbers, They've been changing their figures so many times over the years they cant be used as a reliable source.
>>59543401Is there a more reliable source specifically for paper to physical silver?
>>59543405Not that i know of and most likely we wont get real figures until we are in the next monetary system and back on a gold standard, We've been living in a world of lies for a long time now.
>>59543433>living in a world of lies for a long time nowYeah, true :/
>>59543433>>59543448>>59543405>>59543401>>59543272What drives this mental illness? Is it reading these dumb threads? Are these bots? If real people you would think their lack of investment results would clue them in but they just blame all powerful forces and yet still think paying hyuge premiums for garbage is the way to victory . Fascinating
>>59543405https://www.cftc.gov/dea/options/other_sof.htm
>>59543272>>59543300quality posts
>>59543472Said the bitch
>>59543472Not an ahgument.
59543472iqdejeet>>59543484a nice roundchicken to sub in for the chest pillow
Look at the beauty i just slurped bros. Some real pirate silber.I probably overpaid for it (because of one lone fucker who kept raising up his bids every minute) but that's fine, i REALLY wanted this one, it's rare to see one of those 1550's spanish reales in such condition usually. #NoRegroots
>>59543493I really want to know does that bilge convince 90 IQ subtards to buy boomer rocks? Because half of it is schizo rambling (beyond the normal poltard tier) and half (what you wrote ) looks like it was written by AI pretending to be retarded dei hire just stringing random financial buzzwords together.
>>59543519Terrible quality but at least you are aware you got taken
>>59543364Lmao,minty bought Bitcoin a year ago with your $ and is up 650% while you lost 80% when you paid a 386% premium but at least you got this (you)
>>59543524I rejoice in the idea spanish conquistadors probably melted some of your mayan crap to cast this coin and then send it back to Europa, so i could enjoy it half a millenia later. How does it feel, Pancho Textocukolditx?
jk, i hate it when valuable ancient artifacts are getting destroyed, no matter who does it
>>59543522Said the bitch
>>59543472
>>59543534Said the bitch
>>59543550That's how I feel when y'all destroy your lives waging to buy boomer rocks. I'm trying to save you
>>59543607Said the bitch
>>59543475Quality post
>>59543517>iqdejeetKektop
>>59543475/pmg/ Silver Analysis from COT> 176k total open interest> Miners heavily short (as usual)> Funds moderately long> Swap dealers net short> No major position changes week over week> Standard market structure, nothing screaming buy/sell> Balanced tug-of-war between commercial shorts and fund longstl;dr: neutral positioning, no extreme bets either way
Good morning /pmg/
>>59543832Sir, this is mid afternoon
I got rich by not buying silver. Y'all should try it
I'm a bullion newfag. Where should I buy?
>>59544197https://findbullionprices.com/What r u thinking about buying?
>>59544242Why gold, and silver. Wahooooo!
>>59544197Pump our bags pump the silver ponzi scheme! If we convince everyone to buy 1000 ounces then we can sell and break even
>>59544197https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSXuSjh_8621XAG_JDvfP4vY4_fiKeM0KD-8guzr8dDZU_cjNLCkF4nYWlQM10gD4UtqQWNoH0JGEp8/pubhtml
>>59544197>Where should I buy?Where are you?
>>59544409US of A
>>59544430I'll let the yank anons tell you which dealers are best, My bullion knowledge is more in europe.
Which 20 francs coin should I buy? Not sure if the rooster is the best one to go with.
>>59544455nothin wrong with roosties
>>59544455Cocks are always a wonderful choice
>>59544430Monument Silver gold bullLiberty in eBay Bullion exchange Are the ones I've bought from in the past year
>>59544455Swiss.
reverse is the painting. neat.
>>59544187Said the bitch
Everyone who took my advice got richer last year
>>59544455cheapest option (in the best condition)
>this auction>this final priceJust beautiful kek
>>59544455Personally i've a sweet spot for the Genie one.+ it contains a lil' cock too.
>>59544752Hey Mexican!Recommend me some good tequila.
>>59544752
>>59545324i'd give the person giving me a goat a discount
You know the one thing that IQDELET has shown us is that 4chan is confirmed to have paid shills. It's a sad state of affairs where you could be searching the catalog and notice a thread that might be marketing in disguise.
>>59545335Yeah, it can't be convenient to just have a goat delivered to you most places.
>>59544472>>59544477>>59544507>>59544772>>59545245I think I'm gonna go with the rooster.Is it better to buy in person or online? How hard is it to cash out and not lose a shitload of money doing so?In the USA btw.
>>59545477If you're already concerned about cashing out, this may not be the appropriate investment for you.
>>59542991>You overpay to stay in shitty timeshares that have a bigger premium than frog roundsI overpay on lots of thingsI'm a multimillionaire. $20k USD to me is like $1k to you. Or maybe $100 since you're mexican.you can't imagine having so much money that you'd waste hundreds of thousands of dollars on meaningless whims. you think like a very poor person.
>>59545490What good is a store of value if you can't actually cash it out when you need it?You might not plan on needing to, but unless you're a jeweler that's literally the point of buying gold. To sell later.
>>59545563he's saying if you cash it out too soon you'll lose money on the premiums. you can get around this by either buying larger quantities at a time to lower the cost of purchasing, or by holding the metal longer.if neither of these are possible, you should stick your money in a bank account because you'll lose less money on inflation over a short time than you will paying premiums on metal.
>>59545525>I'm a multimillionaire>Buys a shitty timeshareLmao, timeshares are for middle class idiots, not rich people. We buy apartments or stay in nice hotels not go back to the same dump year after year paying 50% commissions to salesmen in exchange far a free rubber chicken dinner
>>59545597Lmao just buy paper metals dumdum and avoid the premiums
>>59545641I see you've never been to my resort.it's ok, you can rent a place just like mine for $3k per week if you'd like. Your country is delightfully cheap.
>>59545597HYSA and MMF beat inflation these daysAnyways, I'm not planning on selling any time soon, but I need to know that there is some liquidity in the event that I need money badly. And I need to know that I'm not going to get raped on spread if/when gold shoots up and I want to sell off some of my collection.
>>59545647paper metals also carry fees.he's not going to save money short term buying any metals.
>>59545652>I need to know that there is some liquiditykekprecious metals are more liquid than stocks and bonds.
>>59545652>I need to know that I'm not going to get raped on spread if/when gold shoots up and I want to sell off some of my collection.you're likely to lose 10% of the initial investment on gold and about double that on silver. meaning it can take months or years to break even.
>>59545669>10% premiums on goldHoly shit no fucking way, lmao. Try 1-2% max if you know wtf you're doing. >20% premiums in silverAgain, wtf are you smoking. Stop buying from APMEX retards.
>>59545653Wrong.iShares Gold Trust MicroAssets under management: $1.4 billionExpenses: 0.09%Paper metals etf fees are close to zero. Stacktards (including Bob) pay 20 to 150 times that to buy or sell. Yes they are idiots
I wish the current GSR wasn’t so far from the historic/natural ratio. Silver is cool and all, but gold definitely has a unique SOVL
>>59545730he's talking spread, which varies depending where you sell.selling online has a lag in payment and the cost of postage. Selling at a store often results in some percentage below spot.>>59545758also depends where you buy and sell. Brokerage fees are also fees.
>>595457581-2% is a small price to pay for physical ownership of gold compared to paper. Gold is a hedge against the failure of the dollar, among other things. If the dollar fails, only physical holders will reap the benefit of owning gold. Gold ETFs will be worth 0.Or you could just do what I do and buy gold for anywhere from 2% - 70% of spot for fun.
>>59545758>Stacktards (including Bob) pay 20 to 150 times that to buy or sellYou're also ignoring taxes the government taxes you even if all your metal did was keep up with inflation. taxes vary based on where you live and how much you earn. But no matter how you cut it the government is going to tax you for inflation.this is another way I know you're not rich. Rich people concentrate on tax breaks even more than financial gains.
>>59545477Cash out?
>>59545800Imagine the crypto seething when Trump removes CGT on gold and silver.
>>59545807we already get the first half million we make off a house tax free. If they remove taxes on pm's we'll see an absolutely spectacular bubble as everyone dumps all their cash into metals.
>>59545772Based gold enjoyer
>>59545782Brokerage fees are zero >>59545800Moron LTCG tax is 0% on the first $45000>>59545798>If the dollar fails,Omg if the sun explodes.....Lmao @the moron
>>59545563>What good is a store of value if you can't actually cash it out when you need it?The idea is when the times come, you wont have to sell it, because you know, that's already the purest form of money since the dawn of times.And you trade money for goods and services, no need to use a government controlled, taxed, depreciating IOU for that.Ideally, at least that's how i like to imagine it, you'll use your gold to make big 2nd hand purchases, like a house or a car. But if there is an emergency, sure, you can trade it for cash. You shouldn't worry much about the spread, at the current pace of the USD depreciation, it doesn't take long to be in the green, even accounting for premiums. And keep it mind once a currency enter a devaluation spiral, there is no way out of it, and it always accelerate further as time pass... until it dies. Just like the Kali Yuga.
>>59545853>Moron LTCG tax is 0% on the first $45000we're talking short-term, try to keep up.also $45k is essentially nothing I can blow past that in a week.
>>59545660>precious metals are more liquid than stocks and bonds.The sheer idiocy of Timeshare Bob, what's the spread on stocks and bonds vs retard rocks...what's the trading volume ?
>>59545856Post watch
>>59545856Thanks for consneeding
>>59545884>what's the spread on stocks and bonds vs retard rocks...what's the trading volume ?that's not what exit liquidity means. How many dollars are willing to buy my gold.In my 40 years buying and selling gold I've never had a problem selling it. There's people waving signs on every street corner begging to buy it.>>59545886I don't wear watches. I'm not required to be anywhere at any specific time.
>>59545898If you have that many monies, you would have a stupid nice arm clock like a vacheron or something. I'm beginning to doubt your story.
>>59545910>I'm beginning to doubt your story.oh no
>>59545898LMAO
>>59545856yeah this guy's brilliant plan is to live on exactly 45k a year forever, loool
>>59545971everything he says makes me think of a guatemalan fry cook. I particularly enjoy his frugality when rich people are literally throwing away money to avoid paying taxes on it. He doesn't seem to understand.
>>59545898>I don't wear watches. I'm not required to be anywhere at any specific time.the Chaddiest Bob answer
>>59545971Tbf that's a lot of monies for a lot of people. I don't think i know many ppl earning that much (net) in my entourage at my age. And certainly not me (but i'm not trying at life).I know burgers like to flex their unlimited wealth, but for the majority of the world, $45K after taxes is like top 1% earners. For IQ it would be a major reason to brag (i mean, beside his 10s of millions he earned from btc) in his peruvian village. Thus the incomprehension.
>>59546034kekI finally got a cell phone a couple years back just for the camera and flashlight. I don't give my number out to anyone except the wife and kids. I just want to be left alone to do whatever I feel like.
>>59546058Lmao all the wagie losers who cry they can't afford 3 ounces of silver all of a sudden looking down on $45000 tax free income
>>59546076I'll make $92,000 in the next 2 weeks. I'll show you when the papers are signed if you'd like.
>>59546062>I just want to be left alone to do whatever I feel like.Feel you bro, same here. The more years passes, the more i want to be left alone and not interact with other humans. I usually overload after 4-5 hours of interactions in person unless i'm on drugs. And i don't do drugs.
>>59546076Everyone is different, IQ. To me it would be a huge sum of money, to Bob it's nothing. But do you know what we both have in common? We both find your larp very entertaining.
>>59546084that's my only motivation for making money anymore. I used to want to get laid, but lately I just want to avoid people. I like your pegasus coin, is that one the real deal?
I also want to stack some silver but I'm a broke thirdie unifag
>>59546076Said the bitch
>>59546099>I like your pegasus coin, is that one the real deal?Thanks, that's a Thyrreion stater i scored few months back, still need some cleaning. It was a great deal as i paid 70 bux for it. Seller wasn't really happy 'bout it.Btw an even better deal showed up last week, i scored a big lot of 30+ greek coins i've yet to take pictures of. For 130€ kek. It was a complete gamble as the pics were all blurry and taken in the dark, but i tried my luck since i've always had great experiences with this seller. And it paid of. Ofc at that price it's mostly bronze coins, and some are so worn down you can't identify them, but there was also some great gems in incredible condition, even with the original brillant! I'll soon post them when i stop being a lazy piece of shit.
>>59546125>Thanks, that's a Thyrreion stater i scored few months back, still need some cleaning. It was a great deal as i paid 70 bux for it.that's awesome! Beautiful bit of historyI can't wait to see what else you've got. My market has slowed to a normal crawl now post-covid. I haven't bought or sold anything in almost a year. Might be time to get back on ebay and see what's up.
>>59546137I will deliver fren, probably next week.>I haven't bought or sold anything in almost a year. Might be time to get back on ebay and see what's up.You should, it's always nice to see pics of your finds. And lately were a lot of great deals to be had, i guess ppl were too busy with the holidays to chase on ebay.
>>59546109>I also want to stack some silver but I'm a broke thirdie unifagwhat I used to do is run down to the LCS every week and buy a silver dime or quarter or half or dollar depending on how much money I had left over. once I got some more money I started buying a tenth ounce of gold every month or two. junk silver is pretty cheap, and you can build up a smol stack a fraction of an ounce at a time. It adds up. Like taking your spare change and throwing it in a jar, except you're collecting silver.
>>59546211I love the french coat of arms, it's almost identical to my family crest. Just one small difference.
What type of silver you go for ?
>>59545563PMs are not a great vehicle for turn-around investment. They are a hedge against inflation. Much like bank CDs, there's a penalty for selling before they mature. In the case of PMs, it's the premium you pay buying, then mark-down you lose when being desperate to sell. So if a premium is 5% to buy, plus a short of 5% to sell, the spot price has to have gone up 10% to break even.There are stories of "Oh,my LCS buys back at spot" or even higher, but that may not be *your* LCS, or you may not even have an LCS or one that generous.Sell on ebay? 13% auction fee plus somebody's paying shipping. Sell to an online dealer? Still paying shipping.There are four basic reasons for buying PMs- Hedge against inflation or outright monetary collapse,- As art pieces that you enjoy- As a vehicle to transfer wealth to some recipient to avoid taxes (and a dumb idea to hide this in the case of inheritance)- As speculation that the prices may 'moon,' and that's a long shot.There was a fellow here who liked Alien-themed pieces. He had to sell at a loss because of some family issues. The moral: if your cash stack is not already comfy, you won't likely get there anytime soon with PMs. I know that's not canon here and it makes me sound like IQ, but if you don't have cash to survive for a few months, you shouldn't be buying PMs. And if you do, a rule of thumb is no more than 10% of your net worth.And gold is more reliable as an investment anyway. I started in 2012 and silver was $37. Gold was like $1100.
>>59546284cringeignore this schlub and stack
>>59546441Based
>>59546284Dissent is healthy for discourse. And I find criticism delivered in well-intentioned, empathetic tone resonates with many people.Anyone spewing vitriolic criticism under the guise of "I'm just trying to help", is being disingenuous—they're just getting off on feeling superior; if they really wanted to help they would try to resonate.So thanks for the contribution and no need to worry about sounding "bad.That said, regarding your advice, I'd go further and say allocating 10% of your NW to hard money seems like... a lot.
>>59546475>I'd go further and say allocating 10% of your NW to hard money seems like... a lot.That general rule assumes you're already rich and just using metals as a safety net for other investmentsback here in the real world people stack as a sort of savings account that you can haul out and admire as it grows.and in that case having 100% of your net worth in metals is fine. Better than drinking and smoking it all away.
>>59546475>allocating 10% of your NW to hard money seems like... a lot.It can be a lot, but it kind of depends on circumstances - the monthly amount that can be saved, what the net worth actually is, your age, your risk for crime, and whatever else. Personally I'm at 7.2%, and feel saturated.
>>59540860its something id like to have as art rather than something id stack expecting a positive return
>>59546475>10% of your NW to hard money seems like... a lot.>>59546284>a rule of thumb is no more than 10% of your net worth.I'm at ~2% and am aiming for closer to 6% before I start to slow down
>>59540860Diamonds are shit, the price was only ever "high" because of literal Jewish diamond merchants running an international cartel. Artificial diamonds have finally broken them, prices have been dropping and they're running around screaming about their shekels scam finally fucking them.Likewise rubies, lab-grown was able to grow perfect crystals of any (reasonable) size over 20 years ago. I remember reading an article (on actual paper!) about the female scientist who perfected the process, and how she was intentionally introducing some sort of impurity so that lab-grown could be differentiated from natural (probably so the Jews wouldn't shank her in a totally random robbery). By now I'm sure more people have figured out the process.Artificial sapphire is already produced too, and is used for all sorts of applications. Just a quick google search turned up a site selling jewel cuts at dirt-cheap prices. https://ziamond.com/blue-sapphire-lab-created-loose-stones/The natural stuff does look pretty, but absent some historical or emotional value ("this necklace was worn by Katherine Hepburn" or "this was my great-grandma's ring" or "this is the Hope Diamond") I don't see it as an investment.
>>59546503> Better than drinking and smoking it all awayHear, hear> That general rule assumes you're already rich and just using metals as a safety net for other investmentsIt's funny how when you're poor and when you're wealthy, your allocation doesn't much matter. Poor? Put it in anything that isn't consumed and you'll fair better than most peers. Wealthy? Get a modest 4% in the most boring way possible and rest easy—you've already trapped the world. But when you're rich, you're often up but not quite out of the gnawing machine. You need 7-10% to deliver you.> picrel: The rich and the poor. Wealthy not pictured, he's at his estate signing their paychecks
>>59546509That sounds about right.Honestly, the opportunity cost associated with holding your doomsday cache is so big you really ought to be holding it briefly (i.e. short).Ideally over a long period you'd rather have productive capital, THEN swap a portion of your allocation over to your doomsday cache just before you need it.It's kind of lame to spend a significant portion of your life prepping for an imagined situation in which you lose 90% of your wealth. Best case you're poor af. Although I guess relatively speaking you'd be much better off than most others with no hard savings.
Are there any silver commemoratives of picrelated?
>>59546558I started stacking manganese again.
>>59546591The day the king became a demigod.That guy was a moron for missing. (Not that I condone his actions.)
>>59546602I'm new here. Why would you stack manganese?
>>59546522Sounds sane. As long as you have emergency funds as well. It's not like you get instant return if you need it that fast. I know fiat isn't gainful, but having some is essential and extremely useful. It's great for when big dips happen, too.>>59546589>doomsday cacheFor me, it's mostly the art. I started with just generic and a few cool pieces here and there, then discovered I was enjoying the pretties a lot more, and they became a stack.
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