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It's over go home edition

>Educational sites:
https://www.investopedia.com/
https://www.khanacademy.org/economics-finance-domain

>Charts/Screeners/Data:
https://www.tradingview.com
https://finviz.com/
https://www.investing.com/indices/indices-futures
https://finance.yahoo.com/

>Live Streams:
https://www.newslive.com/american/cnbc.html
https://www.livestreamy.net/bloomberg/
https://tvpass.org/channel/fox-business

>Options:
https://www.optionsprofitcalculator.com
https://optionstrat.com/
https://www.optionistics.com/quotes/option-prices

>Calendars:
https://www.marketwatch.com/economy-politics/calendar
https://www.earningswhispers.com/calendar
https://www.chabad.org/holidays/default_cdo/jewish/holidays.htm
https://www.cmegroup.com/trading/interest-rates/countdown-to-fomc.html

>Boomer Investing:
https://www.bogleheads.org/wiki/Getting_started
https://www.sec.gov/search-filings

>Misc smg:
https://www.portfoliovisualizer.com
https://finance.yahoo.com/trending-tickers
https://www.dividendchannel.com/drip-returns-calculator
https://brokerchooser.com/

Previously on /smg/ :
>>60111936
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>>60120914
KEK SOXLBAGGIES
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>BREAKING: California to ask countries to exempt it from any retaliatory tariffs on the US, per FOX
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>>60120914
My puts are fucking flying. Best market ever.
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>>60120914
I’m bleeding out of every orifice. All my gains are evaporated. What a sad fucking year this is turning out to be.
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Stockuck bros.... Gold and Bitcoin are holding up well while our "safe" portfolios are dying
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>>60120926
No one will care about California
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>>60120914
What do you call it when it's more over than "It's over"?
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>people calling this mini-dip a crash (in a manically overvalued market btw)
>*zooms out*
>all major indices still near ATH

biggest fucking nothingburger in the history of the stock market
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It's really difficult to keep your russian pedophile posting off the general, huh chomo
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>>60120927
I sold mine yesterday; I feel like i left the after party right before the celebraties starting showing up because I had work in the morning.
>WHY DIDN'T I STAY AT THE PARTY TO HANG WITH THE STARS?!
>WHY DID I SELL MY PUTS YESTERDAY
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>>60120914
>>60120910
>The absolute fucking state. Does California not have a legal team to tell them they literally cannot do that
Power comes from the barrel of a gun, so if they want they can try it—Also this is a good time to remind everyone the real powder-keg of the first civil war was Tariffs.
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>>60120851
>You need to have 5 and 10 year economic plans. You need planned economies. You need long term thinking. You need mass anti-corruption campaigns.
This. Tariffs could work if they came together with solid plans to reindustrialize the economy. Instead you gonna have 4 years of retardation until orange retard is out, no one in private sector gonna follow along knowing that dems will be back.
US needs to be turned into dictatorship like China to survive, too bad right wing retards will burn half of the country to prevent something like that from happening.
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>>60120948
>in the history of the stock market
go sit down and practice on your times tables timmy.
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>>60120948
uhh?
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>>60120947
It all comes tumbling down
tumbling down
tumbling down
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>don’t really agree with trump
>seeing all of the global backlash is making me more patriotic
I’m confused
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>>60120975
> destroys every boomers 401k
> says he doesn't care about the market it freefall
> goes golfing

kinda based ngl.
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>>60120952
you could be having your bussy used right now by the top of society but alas, you missed the chance
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>>60120851
>>60120935
you don't need any of this
the us has been functioning fine because it has ceded significant amount of policy making power to moneyed interests
this is a good thing
what you're seeing now is precisely the result of this
>we need muh hecking based politics and real leader
dipshittery
turns out that's the last thing you need
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Everyone guess the lows for today
S&P: 5150
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>>60120957
uh the right wing retards are the ones actively supporting just that
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>>60120954
That will set a precedent for other territories of other countries to have independent relations with international law subjects (other countries). Think Tibet and Hong Kong entering into pacts with other countries.
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What the fuck was that glitch on robinhood
It had SOXL made a full U recovery for a couple of seconds
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>>60120952
I mean, you’re not wrong to have pulled out at all. It was an insane drop. This is a casino, son. I’m just doubling down on another hand.
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>>60121013
>activate the hopium glitch
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>>60120914

trump is actually fantastic for us that are degenerates option gambling. it s just bad for normies with their 401ks
if market bleeds again today i m pretty much a free man thanks to donnie
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>>60120984
a faggot would interpret the party being crashed by celebrities as a diddy party. Go touch grass; I voted for this; bought puts for this; and profiting off of this. Anyone who isn't making money is not meant to be a trader
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>>60121024
huh?
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>>60120975

classic tribalism, you think ppl attacking him and your country are actually attacking you. it s normal to feel this way
if his team is smart they ll use it too
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You don't have to believe me, but if you are bagholding I think NOW is the time to jump train and avoid the worst.
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>>60120947
it's right fucked mate
>>60120957
what the other anons said. This is what happens when the separation of powers and checks and balances get too weak; you end-up with a retard who makes decisions unilaterally and can't be held accountable for his actions.
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>>60120957
I'm a right wing retard and the guy you are replying to. I just realize that reactionaries in the US will always be pro-democracy boomers, and that the only way out of this is through communism. And if the only way is through communism, I'd prefer it be the non-faggot kind that actually works instead of hating the South for no reason, having weird racial fetishes with blacks plus Pan-Africanism, and serving the petite bourgeoisie over actual workers—that Monarchism of the 21st Century could finally be explored once this is done, such as Juche North Korea, is merely a bonus.
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>>60121044
It doesnt matter anon
It is too late to dump the bag, all you do now is let the bears work your corpse
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at least Europe has bounced a bit
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>>60121044
nasd-ack already in a bear market how worse can it get...
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>>60121044
I will hold for decades and buy more
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I sold everything this morning before it sold off again, went from +£3k unrealized in Feb to +£0 now.

Back to comfy cash gang now. Trump will NOT back down he would rather burn everything to the ground than accept he was wrong.
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I went from -20% to -14%. If I finish the day at least -5% I'd call it a victory
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nikkei is getting FUCKED
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>>60120927
What do you have
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fucking americans
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>>60120988
>Qing China has been functioning fine because it has ceded significant amount of policy making power to western interests
>...
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>picture perfert pre-market fakeout setup (again)
we're gonna pump at market open and end the day green
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>>60121140
Eat shit tbhfam
Nigger
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>>60121044
The time was after the election exit pump. The next time was 2 days ago. However if you sell now you might only lose 10-15% instead of 90%-100%
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>>60121146
Gotta shakeout the europoors first.
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>>60121146
everyone is too bearish
+5% guaranteed today
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>>60121109
We are going to swing back to weekly high by end of week.
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>>60121122
SPY and NDAQ LEAPs. 540p for SPY. 80p for NDAQ. Both Jan-16-2026. Bought them before the Trump announcement on that spike for cheapies.
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should i stop playing it safe in a high yields saving account and just buy this dip
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I'm out. Faggot dip buyers triggered my trailing stop. +68%, not bad for two days.
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On the bright side my crush is a white girl who likes china so I can have the best of both a beautiful white wife and live in a developed country
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>China copes and seethes
>American mining companies I invested in make me rich
Just
Git
Gud
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It's never been more over than it is now
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Come one, give me some more counter tariffs today.
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>>60121044
no, this is a dip! keep holding anon....I promise it will be better in 10 days
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Holy fucking shit

Its literally so over
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>>60121196
This dip will be bought; People forget that Trump gave nvdia land to build their super factory
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>>60120851
>Americans are about to find out Democracy can't cope with the demands needed to be relevant in the 21st century
Americans will be fine after Trump, relax. It's just one painful lesson that will eventually be forgotten as the system self corrects
>You need to have 5 and 10 year economic plans. You need planned economies. You need long term thinking. You need mass anti-corruption campaigns. All of this is structurally impossible in America's system
America already has that all. It has financial planning, subsidies, economic planning, government contracts to promote burgeoning tech sectors to finance projects that would otherwise be too big and too uncertain to undertake.

Anti-corruption is a meme, lobbying is healthy and the strongest assets US as a country has, what you call corruption has created tremendous growth, jobs, innovation not seen anywhere else in the world. Things are so good that Americans don't even understand what corruption is. It's bribing judges, it's bribing the police, it's buying government contracts despite you having a more expensive and inferior product. Guess what, your competitors will litigate you for that.

Also 10 year economic plan couldn't have created the AI boom, it was the vision of one person, Jensen Huang.
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>>60121215
and hes importing jeets for slave labor... buy the dip anon
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>>60121238
>Also 10 year economic plan couldn't have created the AI boom
>the most gay and overpriced bubble in history of humanity
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>>60121238
>You need mass anti-corruption campaigns
No corruption in China! Tofu-dreg not real!
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Trump singlehandedly showed that Buffet's advice to bet on America is actually not that sure-fire. I dodged a bullet but my only regret is not buying gold, I didn't imagine he would fuck the economy this hard.
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March jobs report is about to be released
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>>60121308
I voted for this and am happy it is happening. The stock market doesn't equal the economy Gas and eggs are already down.
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>>60121315
Won’t have anything substantial. Data was before the tariffs kicked in.
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One hour to go lads untill we are all financial ruined
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just learn2farm bro
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Yesterday was the 40th worst day in the history of the S&P 500. Every worse day was either during the tech bubble pop, 2008, and covid.
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>>60121316
>The stock market doesn't equal the economy
Guess what happens when the stock market goes up? The economy does the same.
Guess what happens when the stock market goes down? The economy isn’t doing so well.
Get another cope faggot.
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>>60121268
>he's still calling AI a bubble
Yeah, current evaluations might be off whack but AI itself is something created by the vision of just one person. Same applies to SpaceX, Bitcoin, Linux etc etc
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>Unemployment rises
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>>60121316
The first intelligent post I've seen on /biz/ today
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>>60121344
Not surprising with layoffs
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>>60121316
Eggs are still $8 a dozen which is double what it used to be and Gas is still $3 which is .45 cents higher than Biden. What are you talking about?
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>>60121316
>Hey boomers? Yeah you're never retiring, I voted for that!
>Hey Millenials? You're never owning a house lmao, I voted for that
>Hey Zoomers? You're never getting a good job. I voted for that. Now get to the coal mines.
MAGA is so fucked in the midterms if they can't get their head on straight about this. You can't just meme away a huge red number in people savings accounts.
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>>60121360
if you think rationality is part of the MAGA agenda then you've missed the last eight years
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>>60121360
Dems are so bad though
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>>60121360
>>60121372
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>>60121316
You voted for a Russian puppet to cripple the economy?
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DO I BUY OR WILL IT DIP FURTHER?
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>>60121357
He’s baiting.
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>>60121386
U watch it today
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>>60121386
Yes.
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>>60121386
How the fuck will it pump after these news?
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When can I start SLURPing?
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I am not going to make it bros... Continue without me
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>>60121395
Yes what
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>>60121386
>WILL IT DIP FURTHER?
Yes. I would just sit today out, it's going to be brutal. I didn't slurp much yesterday and I'm already regretting the amount I did.
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>>60121360
>>60121372
This is the mental state of a perma-mumu.
>The line can only go up-reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
>HOW DO I MAKE MONEY IN A BEAR MARKET
you stupid cock sucking faggots. I hope you go homeless and continue supporting the whig party.
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>>60121386
Anon, the real torment starts today.
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>>60120914

2 more years of trump until he gets the collar huh
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This "crash" is a meme. If the market wasn't fake and gay we would have dumped 70% by now.
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>>60121381
I voted for a decoupling of the Globlism. Yes. If you can't make money trading in this market; you don't deserve to be in the market.
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>>60121360

MIGA are some of the most retarded people out there, you can't argue common sense with them. Just wait until companies start doing layoffs because their margins got hit by tariffs, THEN people will be pissed. Having your investments nuked sucks, but not being able to pay your bills cause this orange nigger is a fucking retard will be much worse
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>>60121423
boomers are slow okay? give them some time to sell
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>>60121423
The market is so fake and gay I wouldn’t be surprised if it becomes green
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>>60121109
I closed my shorts
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>>60121413
I was actually doing really well hedging my long term holdings, but I wasn't expecting two -4% drops in a row. As a rule I don't but puts on a big red day.
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Thank you President Trump, I hadn't realize my eyes were deceiving me, I shall blind myself at once.
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>>60121403
No what?
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>>60121436
>layoffs are good for stocks ya faggot
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>>60121360
>midterms
brother the republican party is going to be fucked for the next 40 years
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Next week Euros will hit back at the US services sector where America actually makes a fuckload of money off of the Union with its software, consulting services and all sorts of professional services in a move specifically tailored to kick lil' Donnie in the nuts. You haven't seen shit yet.
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>>60121465
same; that is why I am going to buy some 12.5 SOXL calls for 5/2
>buy low
>sell high
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Why is Europe pumping
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>>60121479
>>60121360
non republicans telling each other how republicans feel
top kek. enjoy the downfall of the whigg party
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>>60121484
No.
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>>60121386
too early to buy, its going to drop further.
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>>60121491
You sound nervous
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just sold
was I too late?
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OVER OVER.OVER OVER.OVER
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>>60121500
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>>60121477
Yes o No, what is
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ATTENTION /BIZ/:

NIGGERS HAVE TONGUED MY ANUS

that is all
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/smg/?
More liek /baka/
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>60121512
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>>60121516
>>60121512
ITS JOEVER
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>>60121517
Yes. No. Maybe. Can you repeat the question?
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>crash in the market
>crash in the aftermarket

DONALD GETS TWO CRASHES?!?!?!?!
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>>60121512
thats my president!
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>>60121512
Fucking lol.
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IT'S TIME TO GET RICH!
RICHER THAN EVER BEFORE!
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>>60121436
Exactly. Right now they are hiding behind "the stock market isn't the economy, sweaty" (just like leftists used to do, ironically), but as soon as shit gets real, they'll be the first ones to be blindsided by it. Then they'll blame everyone else in the world besides Trump.
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Yes
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>>60121512
This is the time to buy. Millenials can finally afford their first house.
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>>60121529
Yes.
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>>60121512
I read this as

>Too many investors coming into the United States and investing massive amounts of money, my policies will never change.
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>>60120957
>US needs to be turned into dictatorship like China to survive, too bad right wing retards will burn half of the country to prevent something like that from happening.

That's literally the project of peter thiel. Read about curtis yarvin and jd vance's ties to him.
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can't wait to score prime Trumpville pussy
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>>60121512
I AM BUYING THE DIP NEXT YEAR
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>>60121542
Yes what?
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>>60120926
Wait isnt it unconstitutional for states to make their own trade deals with other countries?
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>>60121538
MY PUTS WILL PRINT LIKE YOU'LL NEVER BELIEVE

BEAR MARKET GONNA BE YUUUUGE

>it's accelerated by the fact that neoliberal banking elite have zero confidence and 1,000x fear factor with Trump

There won't even be bull traps on the way down.
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>>60121555
exactly
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>>60121512
I've seen enough, I'm calling it. Trump 2 is most dogshit president in US history.
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>>60121555
What yes ?
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>>60120914

i don t understand why the us don t play it safe they have the birthrate advantage, china is hardcore bleeding with 1 children per women. do they really think they need shit tier jobs to have a closed economy so they can go to war against big boys?
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>>60121567
>calling it 4 months into a 4 year term
This is the bottom and I am tired of pretending it is not. You all asked for cheapies. trump gave them to you. And even now you still bitch and moan. Their is no pleasing you fucking NPCs
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>>60121574
Maybe.
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>>60121582
>This is the bottom and I am tired of pretending it is not.
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>>60121582

this is not even the start. the bottom will depend on how many countries will bend the knee
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>>60121560
What puts you got
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>>60121589
Eh ?
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>>60121607
>being down 20% from Yearly highs is just the start
keep being a doomer bro
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>>60121582
the market is doing great. simply understand that red is the new green
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>>60121582
Trade war just started buddy. This is just a dip we have yet to touch bottom.
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>>60121617
Uh-hu.
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IT ALL RETURNS TO NOTHING
IT ALL KEEPS TUMBLING DOWN
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>>60121614
I was just kidding I'm not invested at all. There probably will be bull traps on the way down, anyways. And who can predict them?
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>>60121598
I am making money. I voted for this. I wanted this. You faggots are the ones complaining. I hated the tranny parade held in the whitehouse; I bet your were jerking off to that shit
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>>60121618
Markets open in 30 minutes anon
this will be disprovable in literally 30 minutes
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>>60121512

>GET RICH BRO

With what money you fucking nigger? My current positions are destroyed. Does this nigger expect me to DCA for the next 20 years to recover lol
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>>60121582
No one asked him to declare economic war on the entire planet all at the same time. All he had to do was close the border and focus on inflation and everything would've been just fine.
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bottom is 2000 buy puts now to get rich
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>>60121628
So, Yes o No what is ?
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I am financially bored.
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>>60121634
We will see in 30 minutes. And you will still be a faggot and I will still be happy I voted for this. You crying and seething is giving me stiffy. I am over the moon you faggots are crying
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>>60121582
>This is the bottom
Lol the EU's retaliation is yet to be announced
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>>60121641

kek
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>>60121635
just learn to trade
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Looking forward to the market's reaction of Trump replacing J Pow with kevin o'leary (shark tank)
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>>60121512
tf man
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>>60121652

Here's your average MIGA retard bros, his net worth is about $3.50
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I'm Gona slurp
>B-BUT THIS ISN'T THE BOTOTM
well then I'll slurp more
>B-BUT THAT WONT BE THE BOTTOM
well then I'll splurp that bottom
>B-BUT THAT WONT BE THE BOTTOM EITHER

Why can't anti splurpers get it?
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>mfw opening broker app today
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>>60121661
they won't retaliate. Eurocucks enjoy being abused
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would it be too late to take advantage of this dip if i try to transfer this to vanguard today?
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CIA, you know what to do. Get to it
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>>60121686
>HANK TOUGH
It's over.
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Imagine voting for this because you hate trannies so much
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>>60121652
I voted for Trump too, but not everything is a bed of roses. The tariff policy is stupid and fails to address the many structural issues in America which are all perpetuated by domestic corporations with regulatory capture and public monopolies. Foreign countries are not the source of our ills : the opioid crisis came from the Sackler family, teachers' unions and public schools are destroying our education system, health insurance and car insurance companies are raping us with extraordinarily high premiums enabled by state and federal legislation, car prices are fucked up by federal regulations and lobbyists preventing the import of cheaper ones from abroad.

This is like chopping off your arm to deal with swelling and pain in your legs. It solves nothing and makes all the issues that are currently going on even worse.
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>>60121670
stay mentally poor. It matches your actual networth.
>I am making more money this month than I did the past 4 years with Biden
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I turned 25k into 10k on AI memes, HIMS, and most ashamedly, WATT
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>>60121698
>because you hate trannies so much
I lost 15k last month alone but I unironically believe thats worth it.
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>>60121698
People prefer economic ruin over trannies. Imagine how brutal that feels to them kek
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Bull trap or Bear trap?
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>>60121685
Anons still in dip buying mode fucking unbelievable
Are you retarded
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>>60121684
Lol then screenshot and post your long positions
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>>60121343
holy fucking shit, NAME?!
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>>60121698
>imagine thinking your economic policies is dictated by a social group
I find it outright hysterical that you faggots can't keep up with all the fuck ups. Imagine thinking that the past 4 years of the economy wasn't propped up by fake news and circle backs. Get fucked and cucked you dipshit
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>>60121709
Yeah? What has Trump done to stop trannies?
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>>60121633
>The longer MAGA posts, the chance they will talk about jerking off to trannies grows
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>>60121688
TRUST THE PLAN
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>>60121682
To be fair anon, for how fake and gay the market is, Trump's retarded little rampage is still enough of a wildcard to wreck the market in a way we haven't seen since the plandemic. We'll see a few months of choppy dump until the market calms down and contemplates recovery.
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Hey anons, i'm a broke normie. Just getting a bit scared. Is reinvesting my 401K into bonds going to help make it more stable?
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>>60121721
its about sending a message. they are not welcome and I believe they got the message.
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>>60121714
I am sure you already did; I don't have autism; I don't have a need to save opinions of strangers or faggots on the internet
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>>60121661
they will never reach consensus on something so big
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>>60121686
>>60121691
what did he mean by this
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>>60121682
>Anon discovers the martingale strategy
Now look up why it fails
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>>60121701
How is reshoring not helping the american worker? Not saying there aren't other issues but how is tariff policy stupid? Besides being inconsistent
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This is really just the beginning. The stagflation monster is rising out of the ocean as we speak.
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>>60121721
He’s literally made it illegal for them to be in the military
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>futures back up
>Europe pumping

Yeah so it was a nothing burger wasn't it
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>>60121721
I haven't seen a metnally ill parade in months
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>>60121769
shhhhh don't tell>>60121652
you will hurt its feelings; and its feelings impact the market or something
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whew thats nice
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>>60121769
>back up
to slightly less of a negative but still a big loss.. and already starting to fall again
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>>60121759
Wow, the .01% of the .01% of the population that is trannies that were going to join the army, who gives a fuck.

>>60121771
They're all busy protesting Trump and molotoving Teslas.

There's been no real actions made against trannies so you basically got fucked economically for nothing.
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>>60121759
He did it by executive order though instead of running it through Congress, they'll be back in (with back pay + tip) as soon as another Dem is in office
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>>60121718
PLAN STATUS: TRQSTED
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>Daily MAGA melty started early
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>>60121780
>d-don't buy the dip goy
bottom signal
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>>60121786
Just let me cope post in peace lad.
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>>60121780
Bullish.
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>>60121796
that's cope, sir
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>>60121769
just recharging for the next week
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This is the third corrective phase of the S&P 500 within the 2020s.
>2020 -36%
>2022 -27%
>2025 -15% (ongoing)
"Ongoing" because the previous two corrective phases have been successfully retraced rather unobstructed.
Will this time be le different?
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>>60121787
>No real action against trannies
I mean.....
>https://www.aclu.org/news/lgbtq-rights/the-human-toll-of-trumps-anti-trans-crusade
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>>60121807
this one was supposed to happen in 2026 which means crazy shit is going to happen
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>>60121780
Okay, but what if I buy the dip anyway?
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Just moved all my retirement accounts into money market funds let’s do this
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Patiently waiting for retail to dump on open, then I sell my shorts and call it a day.
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>>60121714
I'm saying to post your long positions
>>60121741
Cope, it's existential for Germany so it will be done
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>>60121811
>for people under 19
worthless
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>buying UVXY puts and INTC LEAPs
Good luck retards
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>>60121343
AI is a bubble, but it's also the future. It's kind of like railways and colonial companies were. Ridiculously overvalued, but clearly the future.
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I will be slurping SCHG on every red day. I don't care how many red days are yet to come
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>>60121787
>Wow, the .01% of the .01% of the population that is trannies that were going to join the army, who gives a fuck.
dude its about going back to common sense. no one cares if its 0.01 or 0.0001. it starts with trannies and if you dont pay attention the degeneracy jumps to other topics like pedophiles and whatnot.
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so much jewish kvetching here, europe lost, china lost, israel lost
trump won, usa won
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>>60121739
>>60121828
Ops
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Are bonds a safe investment if the US economy goes kaput?
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>>60121842
this is a stockmarket thread sir
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>>60121751
>How is reshoring not helping the american worker?

In simplest terms, because goods made in America are four times as expensive therefore his paycheck goes half as far. This applies to companies and small businesses as well.

A worker earns $2,400 and needs to furnish his room with a home office, and buy electronics because he just started online college. He can buy a chair and a desk, a PC with a monitor and a keyboard, a reading light, and a laptop made in China for a grand total of $600. Or he can buy the same things made in America for $2,400. Tariffs and re-shoring hurt him.

A company is expanding its box-making facility and needs to buy two industrial stapling systems and two industrial glue guns. It can buy all that for a grand total of $3,600 if made in China or $14,400 if made in America. It is hurt by tariffs and re-shoring.

Competitive companies and people whose labor is actually valuable do not need to be protected by tariffs. Tariffs creates a class of dependent zombie companies that leech from the labor of the actually productive and internationally competitive people and corporations. They are bleeding their countrymen dry to perpetuate an existence which makes no economic sense and has no competitive capability on international markets, meaning they will never bring money from abroad into the country, but simply leech off of the country's domestic wealth.
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>>60121845
No
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>>60120952
same. sold my TSLA put and some others because clown market
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>>60121841
You got duped by a pointless platitude like the moron you are. Let me know when tranny medications are banned, and all gender-affirming care is eliminated, and you stop being a moron.
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>>60121858
Fuck. What is the safest thing to put my 401k into then, besides cashing out?
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>>60121842
Shut up retard
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>>60121386
Think of all the possibly very bad news that could come out all weekend long meanwhile you are stuck and can't do anything.
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>>60121853
This person lives in dire poverty and doesn’t care about successful people like biz losing everything due to chairman tard. They hate the successful
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>>60121842
Israel is Trump's biggest concern you retarded MIGAtard.
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>>60121845
>if the US economy goes kaput?
The only safe investment in that scenario is guns, ammo, clean water and hardtack
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>>60121888
He tariffed them too though
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>>60121866
I just put mine into short term money market funds which should be an option on your 401k website they should stay pegged to $1 and gain interest
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>>60121845
Do you trust your bonds in the hands of the stable genius?
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>its about going back to common sense
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>>60121866
>>60121858
Wouldn't short-term U.S. government bonds or money market be a realistic choice? That would be my suggestion.
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>>60121842
>jewish kvetching
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>>60121864
Why would gender-affirming medications ever be banned when Trump and Musk are on finasteride and RFK on TRT?
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>>60121819
Who knows. When the SPX reached 6000pts in November last year, my TA magic lines were showing yet another 10-12% increase on top of that before the line literally ends.
Clown world still gives reason to believe that the SPX will still reach that milestone (~6700pts) before EOY.
All this tariff hysteria reminds me of the plandemic where everybody, especially the "experts", were convinced that it's literally fucking over this time for realz...

...and then nothing happened and most western economies reached "full employment" shortly after.
"Experts".....
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If tariffs were bad why did europeans use them against china and america this whole time?
Why did china always use them?
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>>60120966
I'm surprised the mods haven't put the song on as board background music.
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>>60121175
Ged a CD. you can find ones returning 4.5% still. Just do that. Trying to time the market in times like this is gambling. Remember, tariff's haven't even really started yet and consumers won't feel it for a few months.
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CANT STOP
WONT STOP
GAMESTOP
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>>60121895
No, he just took the tariffs on them back today. Everything for the sake of Israel amirite MIGApede?
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>>60121908
That's what I was considering, just put like 80% of my shit in bonds until this all resolves itself, then just buy the dip afterwards.
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Going to trade some 0DTEs today with 3 figs
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https://voca.ro/1kiR5Mg1UNDK

its ok guys... its all gonan b o k
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>>60121897
Honestly i'm hoping he gets deposed/impeached soon enough, because otherwise, we're going to have a LOT worse problems than just 401k's going down the shitter.
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>>60121916
>All this tariff hysteria reminds me of the plandemic where everybody, especially the "experts", were convinced that it's literally fucking over this time for realz...
>...and then nothing happened and most western economies reached "full employment" shortly after.
Did you forget how the west printed to oblivion and we had to eat half a decade of high inflation to pay for it?
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>>60121940
idk if that's true
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>>60121918
>nooooooo you can't just point out facts
>reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
this whole fucking board
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>>60121912
Because gender-affirming care is only bad when you're trying to switch genders, tranny.
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Why is baba down 10%?
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>>60121945
You said that in 2018
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>>60121175
(non Amerishart here)
If you're in Burgerland why don't you check Robinhood Gold?
They pay interest on idle cash yielding close to what the Fed funds rate is atm.
>inb4 Robinhood
Also they pay out once a month.
>>60121925
>4.5% still
Probably not for much longer.
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>>60121966
Because tariffs are double edged swords
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leaf bros…
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Luv me bear market /biz/
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And just like that we are pumping bull bros
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HAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>60121950
>Did you forget how the west printed to oblivion and we had to eat half a decade of high inflation to pay for it?
So what you're saying is that this time really will be le different?
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>>60121962
Why would you call me a tranny when I was born a man and want to stay a man? I think you don't even know what the term means. Freaking npc.
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>>60121991
>tell this >>60121634
stupid motherfucker this please please please please
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>>60121938
same anon. maybe 1dte puts to wait for weekend retaliation. godspeed
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>>60121857
Because more manufacturing is done in US and you kick illegals out wages for american worker rise. This offsets rise in prices of manufactured goods.

US-made industrial stapling systems being more expensive has also lots to do with unions and regulatory capture.
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>>60121918
Their tariffs were selective, not blanket tariffs. China has been using them as a good tool to negotiate FTAs with favorable terms, to provide an incentive to do so. But their tariffs have never been punitive like Trump's, just high enough to generate interest in FTAs.

It recently signed huge deals with major concessions in Africa by moving from tariffs to free trade with several countries. That has always been their end goal. Trump, on the other hand, is saying this won't change no matter what.
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>>60121995
They'll probably be right eventually
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>>60121976
>Probably not for much longer.
Just lock it in now. No reason not to. You can get an extra grand or so by the end of the year.
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>>60121994
>it’s real
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>Didn't sell before tariffs kicked in
>Debating whether to buy today or not
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>>60122008
it's falling again anon.
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>>60121974
Kek, no. I was still kinda on board with Trump by then. Voted for him in 2016. Now I can see he's a mouth breathing retard who has amassed a large cult of zealousness sycophants. Shit is going down fast, and I dread to think what this country will be like if Trump really does impose martial law on the 20th. Shit's fucked.
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>>60121962
>see guys I code switched and used the word to; I am just like you guys hhahahahahahahaha
stay mentally ill ya faggot
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>>60122029
bullish
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>>60122026
Trump should've stuck to popular measures like deporting illegals and making precise cuts to government spending then he would've been remembered as a great president. Instead now he's sealed a permanent Democratic majority.
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reminder CARD, LABD, TSLZ, and NVDQ are still cheap and can 5x from here
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>>60121375
Not even close to as bad as what trump is doing right now. I'd take lina kahn back in a heartbeat over trump and his economic policy from the 16th century.
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>>60122029

It can go lower.

Rolling in cash right now got me comfy.
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>>60121977
But the tariffs will hardly affect baba.
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>>60121994
Daddy's home and he's taking his belt off?
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BREAKER
BREAKER
BREAKER
BREAKER
BREAKER
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2 minutes until open bros
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>>60122026
>mmartial law
I have never seen "2 more weeks" until now. Let me know how many more weeks until the constitution is upended and that dictatorship gases all its citizens. You are so fucking pozzed I cannot tell where the pozzed starts and stupidity ends
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>>60122027
>using the words code switch unironically
tranny detected
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MY ASS IS CLENCHING
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>>60122046
>he's sealed a permanent Democratic majority.
Let him cook
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>>60121994
All that for J Pow to come on stage and say we're watching carefully and not adjusting rates or .25 cut at best
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I bought SOXL at 13 dollars, should I sell?
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AHHHHHHHHHHHH
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It will pump on open doe
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>>60122058
Hey, all's i'm saying is he made an executive order to make a 90 day report on the border situation, and on 4/20 will make a determination whether or not to inact the insurrection act. Have you ever known Trump to say NO to unlimited power? You should be paying attention.
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>>60122059
>I am going to call the man who has been reffering to the transexual commnity has mentall ill faggots; a tranny!
>that will surely trick everyone into thinking I am not a mentally ill faggot!
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Brace for inpact
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>>60122065
He’s never leaving. Imagine the market reaction when people finally accept the obvious reality
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>>60122071
buy a protective put or set stoploss
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BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG

CAM ON LET'S MAKE SOME FOOKIN' GAINS

https://youtu.be/HKLyc_SYfl8
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>30 seconds
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I'm going to buy a put for the 9th
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Clench those cheeks
Here we go
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Seeing the pre-market it's going to be another massive doomp
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>>60122083
You can't trust anything anymore

Bonds, stock, yourself
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>>60122086
nah it's because you use fag language like a faggot
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>>60121995
Yes because Trump is destroying the previous status quo
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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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>>60122022
I advice patience. Unless you invest in index funds, then you keep investing same as always.
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It's a dooooooooomp
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>>60121857
>Tariffs creates a class of dependent zombie companies that leech from the labor of the actually productive and internationally competitive people and corporations
No, cause these companies will simply perish in a free market and be replaced with companies which can make better products for cheaper.
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Actually not that bad I was expecting -6 straight away
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WTF WAS THAT AHHHHHHHHH
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>>60122046
>he has created the whigg party
OH NO! NOT THE WHIGG PARTY!
>>>60122084
the world is going to end on Easter/Weed Day
sure bro! Easter is the day that the world ends. Let me pull out a star chart and mark that down for the horoscope
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5 PERCENT PUMP WTFWT
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Looks like Dow is under 40K
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Yea I'm not seeing a buy here, better to wait until Monday and check again
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>>60122127
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>>60122127
You can't bait me into opening my port. Not today.
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My cheeks are getting clapped right now
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>>60122124
Hey, you can deny it all you want. Just trying to help you prepare anon.
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US 10y below 4%
How cohenvenient for that approaching wall of debt to be refinanced...
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I think it usually talks a half hour for froth on open to settle
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I AM SO TIRED OF WINNING PLEASE STOP
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HIT THE BRAKES HIT THE BRAKES GOD DAMNIT STOP THE TRADES
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What is this pattern called?
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>>60122122
Still way too much optimism, long way to dump. I might actually sell my defensives and go all cash.
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>>60121634
So here's the Dow.
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That's it. I'm shorting SOXL
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WE FINNA HIT CIRCUIT BREAKERS
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>>60122169
The stock market is surging if you live in Australia.
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>Spikes on open causing my positions to dip hard
>Freak out and think about cutting losses
>It starts gently reversing
Phew. Can't believe this retarded market almost pumped.
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Remember the good times when US was a oligarchy? Please go back
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>>60122013
>Trump is saying
Yeah, true. He should just telegraph everything lol
Not like he's "said" a lot of stuff in the past just to apply pressure.
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>>60122012
>wages for american worker rise

If wages rise, everything becomes proportionally more expensive. Unless you are actually putting more goods on the market than before, there is a loss in economic value and the rise in wages is an illusion.

If we go from 1,000,000 goods imported into the country and 200,000 goods produced in the country to 300,000 goods imported into the country and 600,000 goods produced in the country there is still a real 10% loss in wealth and higher wages are illusory.

Tariffing does not mean shit unless American factories actually begin to produce more of tariffed good X than China at an equivalent price, which they never will. This is an economic kabuki theatre based on the destruction of wealth and subsequent inflation by appreciation in value of goods while their number diminishes below demand. This is a supply crunch. The demand for labor will rise, but real wealth will diminish probably indefinitely as China cannot be replaced.
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Apple has lost 1 trillion dollars in market cap
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Whats the threshold to stop hit the emergency button and stop trading?
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>>60122177
The Mango Tango
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>>60122177
the australian pump
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>>60122176
STOP THE COUNT
>>60122178
I did that at the very peak and now can shitpost all I want.
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Someone at my work started playing final countdown lol
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>>60121652
NASDAQ down 3%
DOW down 2%
S&P down almost 3%
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no brakes on the MAGA train son
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>>60122177
Trumpenomics
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>>60122177
The kerfuffle shuffle
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>SOXL
Damn
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holy fuck fuck my ass silver is dumping, why!!! why arent you guys changing into silver? where is the money even going??
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>>60122195
This. The US can only produce highly complex machinery or digital services which are competitve in the world market while the 3rd worlders produce cheap but low quality products.
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>>60122222
Silver is a meme in trades
Physical metals is better than stock
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>>60122222
QUINTS
>where is the money even going??
Mattresses.
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A few centimeters and we would be in a different timeline and celebrating. What could have been.
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>>60122222
Damn, nice quints
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WTF WAS THAT???

SUUUUUUUUUUUURGE!!!
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>>60122245
>t. short sighted retard
Trust the plan
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Holy shit I'm so glad I sold while I was still green lol.
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>>60122245
that shit was staged
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>>60122177
content of the picture to the right very related to the subject matter
[this isn't spam ffs]
[it really isn't...]
[oh come on]
[ok just fuck off!]
[trying something else...]
[the "system" doesn't like black people it seems]
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>>60122222
Silver was always a scam for migatards in poverty. Should have bought gold
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TITANIUM RESISTANCE AT 5200 SPX
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WEWOAAH LOOK AT THAT
CANCEL ALL ORDERS
CANCEL ALL ORDERS
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BUDDY
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>>60122256
Trust the pain?
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>>60122245
Biden was Mr. Crab. The economy wouldn't have grown under his second term and probably would have naturally reached recession in the third or fourth year. With Trump, we have something to shitpost about at least. Markets are over-inflated and a correction was about due so I guess he's going to do it on his terms, even if it means a Depression. He can use the economic crisis to project more power and perhaps become a second F.D.R. --- he said he wanted a third term, after all.
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>>60122284
>>60122284
>>60122284

New bread
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My port is so down bros, fuck
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>>60122270
you betcha
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RADICAL LEFT MARXIST COMMUNISTS ARE TANKING THE COUNTRY SLURP SLURP SLURP SOTP THE STEAL LOCK HER UP MAKE AMERICA CREAT AGAIN
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>>60122177
Winning
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>>60122195
Why are you framing this in terms of production capacity? There's plenty of labor in US, why would there be issues with production capacity? What does this have to do with tarrifs? For the last 150 years the issue has been ability to produce way more goods than what consumers need lol. Thats why you have "free trade zones" where one country floods other countries in the zone with manufactured goods, killing domestic manufacturing of the less developed countries.
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Least this threads almost over...
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>>60122288
Yes. It's just like lifting. You do lift, right anon?
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Thought i'd ride som free percentages up on INTC on the usual morning pump and dump. but man i didnt expect that fucking brutal drop. YIKES
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0dte AMD puts are literally free money
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I'm down almost 100k from ath and I refuse to sell. We will rebound. I'm not gonna be one of those dumb faggots that bets against the American economy and gets burned every single time.
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I'm 34 years old.
My ATH net worth was ~750k a few months ago.
I am currently down ~100k.
I just sold ~260k worth of stock in my (inherited) IRA.
My current holdings are now 33% stocks (a variety of US ones in IRA, brokerage, and 401ks), 40% cash, 7% gold and silver, and 4% gold ETFs.
I was an idiot to wait so long to sell. I saw this shit coming months away but didn't trust myself.
I locked in my losses, but I don't stand to lose as much any more. I would rather be mid tier (e.g., drop to ~500k) than outright poor (e.g., drop to ~200k).
Sigh.
I just hope I don't lose my job.
Thank you for reading my blog.
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>>60122312
>There's plenty of labor in US
no there fucking isn't. you aren't competing with a few hundred million turd worlders you're competing with BILLIONS. america should only focus on big high value shit because we can't throw billions of brown people and chinks at cheap consumer goods
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MIGA and all its members will forever be remembered in history books for participating in a billionaire suicide cult
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>>60121751
I don't think it's going to help much unless they stop ALL emigration but that ain't happening
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>>60122390
why arent u 100% cash u fucking retard
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>>60122177
A long overdue correction
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>>60121759
He is just protecting them from WW III
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>WE'RE GOING DOWN
>I'M YELLING RECESSION!
>YOU BETTER MOVE
>YOU BETTER SELL

>LETS MAKE A MARKET
>YOU CAN'T RETIRE
>I'LL BE THE PRES
>YOU MOST REGRET
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I-I think i slurped too early intcels...
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I bought a put then a huge green dildo appeared on Spy
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ive sold all my shit and gone back to cash.

only a -£100 loss which i consider to be good considering what some anon's here have lost already.

The plus side is when the market stops crashing eventually its a buyer's market then.
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>>60121686
You have guns, do it yourself.
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>>60122684
>he thinks its going to stop crashing
have fun with the bulltrap, anon
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what do you guys think, whats the lowest tsla will go today?
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>>60122588
Wrote more puts today. Breakeven is like $18.50
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wow its going to reach -5% today
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>>60120957
US needs to have a civil war, we can’t live with these people.



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