pulling the plug on the vix edition>Suicide HotlineHelp is availableSpeak with someone today988 Suicide and Crisis Lifeline>Educational sites:https://www.investopedia.com/https://www.khanacademy.org/economics-finance-domain>Charts/Screeners/Data:https://www.tradingview.comhttps://finviz.com/https://www.investing.com/indices/indices-futureshttps://finance.yahoo.com/>Live Streams:https://www.newslive.com/american/cnbc.htmlhttps://www.livestreamy.net/bloomberg/https://tvpass.org/channel/fox-business>Options:https://www.optionsprofitcalculator.comhttps://optionstrat.com/https://www.optionistics.com/quotes/option-prices>Calendars:https://www.marketwatch.com/economy-politics/calendarhttps://www.earningswhispers.com/calendarhttps://www.chabad.org/holidays/default_cdo/jewish/holidays.htmhttps://www.cmegroup.com/trading/interest-rates/countdown-to-fomc.html>Boomer Investing:https://www.bogleheads.org/wiki/Getting_startedhttps://www.sec.gov/search-filings>Misc smg:https://www.portfoliovisualizer.comhttps://finance.yahoo.com/trending-tickershttps://www.dividendchannel.com/drip-returns-calculatorhttps://brokerchooser.com/old>>60144091
Should I just sell my EU defense stonks or hold to them and pray thet don't get as hit as everything else. I'm already in the red but I guess I can wait a few years
4 HOURS TO FUTURESPLACE YOUR BETS
>>60146705I sold mine last week. No point in holding them right now.
>>60146707
>>60146707its obvious
>>60146705this tariff fuckery will hurt short term but if the euros actually follow through on rearmament it should climb higher
have you said thank you yet
actually is there a place for free live futures data? it will be delayed for 10 mins otherwise
At least I own a house and some land even if Trump erases all my savings
>mfw all cash >just waiting for market to open like a kid waiting for christmas giftsI'm not even a slurper, I'm just excited to see what happens
>>60146755thank you for making UVIX pump
My only solace is that maga voters who selfishly voted in their own myopic interest are going to get dumped on
I just want to see all short sellers get liquidated. If I had a few bilion in cash id just place a giant market buy order and execute it with a single click
>>60146791Wait I don't know why I framed that in a way that makes it seems like I'm in a bad spot I have puts
>>60146705So where does SPY and QQQ bounce from ATH? -25%, -45%?
>>60146781I was going to buy uvix on wednesday before close but I instead bought soxl because I thought it would pump since it was a clown market
btc being sold off to service upcoming margin calls
>>60146755he looks like a huge retard here kek
>>60146755He has the same eyes my gf's demented grandmother had
>>60146683The picture is ironic because Trump put insane tariffs on our Japanese allies. The picture depicts Trump working together with Japanese school girls.
will a monday dump increase IV further?
Oh no no no no crypto sisters
How are our resident SOXL holders doing?
>My only solace is that maga voters who selfishly voted in their own myopic interest are going to get dumped on
>>60146863gonna have to buy some rope lol
1pibbers should go back to their board
At least Apple is going to finally die.
>>60146883no
>/smg/ consensus opinion aligns with CramerIf you want to know what the right move is, its the one you feel like you'd be crucified for if you stated it publicly. You retards will all act like you saw it coming too.
Why don't Redditors tell people to invest in Gold rather than VOO/S&P? It's safer and a better return.
>>60146902you're right we'll get a 300% pump on mondaygo for it sis
>>60146904look at 2013 until 2022. close to 10 years of doing NOTHING. 10 years is a long ass time, brother.
>>60146820somewhere around another -10% puts QQQ around the 1000 EMA on the daily, 200 EMA on the weekly, and the 50 EMA on the monthly which have seemed to be support in 2018, 2020, and 2022. last time they were comfortable below them for a long period of time was 2008 and 2001. But I just put random numbers on the EMAs on the chart so idk
>>60146883Cry more
Financial investments doesn’t matter anymore, it’s time to hoard weapons and supplies
It will eventually stop dumping
>>60146933325% over 25 years is DOGSHIT .. S&P is trash desu.
>>60146952obviously, but it should do that after I sold my puts and bought the bottom
>>60146872You post memes on what you wish I looked like and lose money while I win money, that's the difference between us
>>60146930SPX will form new ATHs in the coming months.
No crying in the casino
When is Congress gonna write a law to remove Trumps Tariffs and then override his veto?
18 hours until total market death, brothersWhat are you doing with the remaining time that was given to you alhamdulillah?
>>60146986They don't need a law, just a binding resolution ending the emergency that Trump is using to justify the tariffs. Problem is they won't be fast enough to do prevent them, because the Speaker of the House is prevent votes right now.
>>60146986not soon enough to avert a market crash
>>60146986it's already starting with a senate bill and a house bill in progressbut it will probably be delayed at least a month I think
>>60146904One reason is that stocks are the mainstream standard advice, so most people stick to that. Another reason is that stocks have had much higher long-term returns (including risk-adjusted returns) than gold.
>he's doing it to create muh AI technoutopia>he has to hide it from everyone because Americans don't trust technology!jesus we are reaching unimaginable cope levels, we're so fucked
How was it even possible that one senile old man could be allowed to crash the world economy without any debates or voting, doesn’t seem like a good political system
>>60146986Magic Mike seems to be hellbent on keeping the tariffs for now, unfortunately. I'm hoping that republicans in the house will fold in a couple of months after the economic pain really starts to set in for consumers, and then we can go back to business as usual.
>>60147053power comes with responsibilityhe is irresponsible
>>60147053Every single populist party is just as retarded, here you see what happens when the get majority in a winner take all political system and don't have to compromise in larger coalitions
>>60147012but the tariffs will be annulled the moment congress says there is no emergency (whatever that is)?
>>60147053Congress, who would normally have a bunch of conflicting and varying interests and therefore an incentive for careful planning, ceded all of their power with the emergency declaration to the president, who now has the ability to unilaterally decide tariffs
>>60146885>iphones will be even more of a thot status symbolbased
this was the longest weekend ever
>>60147083>>60147053It's congress fault for givng him:International Emergency Economic Powers Act of 1977 (IEEPA) Without that Trump can't do Tariffs. He used it last fucking time so why didn't they repeal it under Sleepy Joe? They had 4 years.
>>60146768Why SOXL and not BAKA for example? The 3x ETF aspect of that is what makes it so dangerous.
so between illegal immigration and economy,wich one you choose.
>>60147099The power to tariff is typically held by the legislative branch, not the executive. However a law was passed decades ago allowing the executive branch to issue tariffs in response to a national emergency. Trump declared an emergency on trade, and is using that law to issue the tariffs. However, national emergencies can be annulled by congress with a binding resolution, which doesn't require the president's vote, and once annulled the tariffs via that law will end too.The problem is that the Speaker of the House is currently preventing votes on binding resolutions from coming to table, so right now the only way to get this to come to vote is to first pass a motion of no confidence against the Speaker of the House and have him step down. And there isn't yet enough support for that move.
>>60147053You lost
>>60147130cause they are all asleep at the wheelnot one person or the graphic designer looked at the tariff stats and dared to fire back at the command chain that there were incorrect domains on it because they all got the idea from an AI chatbot: "how to tarriff da world?"
>>60146981>No crying in the bankrupted casino
>>60146683Remember the law of the universe #6969Steely Dan has a good song for everything!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3Pw4t_Falo
Same delusional faggots now frantically clicking the sell button
>>60147212yeah I got fucked in semiconductors panic selling calls this past monday open, albeit I could have held either side of the contracts I did not expect the tariff meltdown to continue all week
>>60147099The emergency is that useless bottom of society people are dying of fentanyl overdoses, wow
>>60147266My theory is that institutions are throwing a tantrum and dumping everything disproportionally because orange man bad. I mean just look at tesla protesters theyre psychopaths, why would institutions act differently
>>60146885Should I sell out of my Apple? I'm still up like 40%But then I'm just gonna have a ton of cash sitting around and i'm too scared to put it anywhere
>>60147295>thinking anyone cares about your e-daddythe only thing that matters is money
>>60147266>albeitUsing that word the first time in 4chan history
>>60147295I hate teslas tho and think they should be all thrown in one big lithium fire and get their pollution over with, but that was prior to musk's positions this year anywaythe tariff chart was made by an LLM and they didn't even check it before putting it to a spreadsheet they went text - graphic spreadsheet of the TEXT data, whatever the elites have up their sleeve about this whole debacle is probably more about causing a revolution in the USA
>>60147295This is such retard-tier thinking, I don't even know how to respond
>>60146952of coursein 2-4 years or whenever the tariffs besides chyna's go away
3 hours to futures(for real this time)
>>60147393yeah sad I had calls and puts and if I held either of them I would have had my cost basis back -_- swear the elites are bullshitting all of this to fleece us little goys with these swings because it was so perfect -80% -80%
WAKE ME UP
>>60147427(wake me up inside)
>>60147313That is the problem. You buy, sell, or hold. If you sell, it's either because you think you can get in lower or you have a better place for the money. Things have fallen enormously so far so an expectation of additional drops becomes riskier and you end up possibly losing your shares if prices rapidly rebound and then you're playing that whole chasing game which is agonizing. Things have fallen in a broad based way so far so rotating your money into something else, if you already have it in half decent shit, is just putting a different coat of paint on your portfolio. It seems pretty pointless if you're in META right now to rotate to NVDA or vice versa. If you rotate out of MSFT into KO, you're probably giving up a shitload of money in the event things recover. I'm honestly thinking about just selling long dated covered calls, pocketing the money, and going on vacation for a month or two.
While the Trump administration has not disclosed the full list, the following countries have reached out:- India: Expressed interest in dialogue and avoiding confrontation.- Israel: Hopes for reduced tariffs on Israeli imports after canceling its own tariffs on U.S. goods.- Vietnam: Proposed eliminating all tariffs on U.S. goods and requested a pause in tariffs for negotiation.- Taiwan: Aims for “zero tariffs” with the U.S. and plans to increase investments in the U.S..- Indonesia: Seeks a diplomatic resolution to the imposed tariffs.- United Kingdom: Engaged in talks for an economic pact and aims to reduce U.S. tariffs on British goods.- European Union (EU): Indicated willingness to negotiate while preparing potential retaliatory measures.- Cambodia: Offered to reduce tariffs on U.S. goods in exchange for lower tariffs on Cambodian exports.
>>60147445I CANT WAKE UP
>>60147427(can't wake up)
>>60147506>>60147513WAKE ME UP INSIDEEEEEEE
>>60147496Trump won. Everyone is bending the knee.
>>60147496Most of these countries, save the EU, buy so little from the US that it doesn't seem to matter. Heck most of those countries are too poor to afford goods made in America.
>“There is no postponing,” Lutnick said. “They are definitely going to stay in place for days and weeks. That is sort of obvious. The President needs to reset global trade. The countries of the world are ripping us off, and it’s got to end. And the President has made it crystal, crystal clear. This is the policy we are going to protect.”
>>60146443My retirement...
>>60147401Why else would they be dumping this hard you mong
>>60147496shut the FUCK UP liberal
>crypto dumpingReally shouldn't have bet on their being a bounce Monday. How do I close my positions early? I called my female stock broker 3 times already but she's not picking up.
dont careputting 5k into the market tomorrowi don't even want to sell. just enough to live off dividends some day.
>>60147556maybe try calling your male stock broker instead?
I'll wait until I see how the Nikkei and Hang Seng open later tonight, but I have a sneaking suspicion Monday won't open as badly as people think, and the real troubles will come later in the week after more retaliation announcements. My guess is Monday is a soft open with a metric fuck ton of hedging being done.
>>60147549The messaging is all over the place with this administration.
>>60147549I think the problem Vietnam has is Trump will just move the goalposts and say something like "okay you have 0 tariffs, but you have too much influence from China in your country. Get rid of the China influence"
>>60147556>he owns stock in female
>>60147549They genuinely have no idea what they are doing and are just flinging shit at a wall seeing what sticks
>>60147556slurpers were deleted fridaysorry, you might not be able to slurp until may
>Suicide Hotlineabsolute reddit joke fucking niggers
>>60147589>They genuinely have no idea what they are doing and are just flinging shit at a wall seeing what sticksno they asked an LLM "tariff da world" and nobody checked the output, because everyone along the way is a lobotomized holocaust believer
>>60147549DO NOT REDEEMMAAM, DO NOT REDEEEEEEMNOOOOOOO
>>60147496The problem is that there is nothing to negotiate but to go back to the status quo. Trump and his cronies do not want that.
>>60147637I'd have make so much money if I was working with cheetojust leveraged myself to the tits even taking loans from everywhere just to buy puts I'd become a billionaire overnight
>>60147535This shit is absolutely overI cant believe Cramer was right for once
>>60147569Based. Diviegods feasting
>>60147576Realistically what countries could retaliate?I only see China, Canada and EU having the leverage to do so
>>60147637It feels like there are two camps within the Trump admin. "We are using tariffs to negotiate free trade deals with other countries" camp and the "we are using tariffs to further our isolationist dream" camp.
>>60147660darkest timeline
>be brave when others are fearfulThe gigachad move right now may be to be a bull. Is there any chance of monday being green? After all, spy is already down 20%.
>>60147671meanwhile the guy is camping>>60147681just wait for futures in 3 hours
>>60147313>too scared to put it anywhereA high yield savings account. 4% my guy. Sell.
What is he scheming right now?
>>60146885lmao Apple is so fucked it's unreal.
>>60147691*playing golfsame level of retardation and bad PR
>>60147549what an absolute joke of an administration
>>60147670Well China, Canada, EU and Mexico are some of the biggest exporters to the US so just a strong retaliation from the EU alone (specifically on the digital tech sector which is one of the few export industries in the US whose main partner happens to be EU) could cause a nasty downturn further So I'm pretty much waiting on the EU hit to come in before deciding on how bad the direction will be
>>60147720>playing golf to entertain a hostile foreign government
markets will open down but bounce back bigly and beautifully
>>60147745don't forget he fired people from the national security council because some foid poltard grifter told him too
>>60147660>I cant believe Cramer was right for onceaccidents happen
>>60147618The joke is the suicide hotline is actually worse off for you. If you call and give the operator any hint that you might be serious (and not just calling for some human contact), then they'll send the police over to your place. They'll probably shoot your dog, maybe bust down a door or break stuff, then drag you off to a hospital for a three day minimum hold. You'll be drugged up and strapped to a gurney because they don't have enough staff or space to keep you there and under control any other way. They may or may not tell anyone that you're there, and definitely won't tell your workplace, so you'll probably get fired for failing to show up. You'll also probably get evicted for causing a disturbance and any damage the police did to your apartment. Then, because you were never at "serious" risk of suicide, you'll get discharged from the hospital... left in a wheel chair by the front door with a bag of your clothes and belongings. And then a few weeks later you'll get a $20k bill.
>>60147053You say this and I agree that Trump himself is a bad example. But if you've lived in a country with limp wristed government who can never get anything done because party D doesn't want to work with Party E, and Party A doesn't want to work with Party B, then you would realize how fucking frustrating it is.
>>60147731yes they are "coming" not yes they are "open to negotiation"
How long to do I have to acquire stocks before the recovery starts you think? Weeks, Months, years? Should I but indexes or single companies? If so what indexes? Will tech ever recover?
>>60147776so no negotiation at all?
>>60147757All because she is the only woman who willingly wants to fuck him.
>>60147780buy a world index, I think maybe april and MAYBE early may will be the deepest it will go before they pass a resolution to cancel the tariffs
>>60147681>GreenAbout 0%
>>60147681only if trump today announces a delay to the reciprocal tariffs
>>60147746It will be a beautiful V, the best in history, the best, everyone will see it, America will once again be prosperous GREAT and RICH as it has never been seen before.
>>60147793yes. they were pretty clear about it from the get go.
>>60147805why would he delay the big beautiful tariffs that will finally fix the broken cheating trade system that is raping and plundering america?
>>601474966 months of negotiations while this worldwide economical carnage continues, leaving all negotiating parties in ruins. The Art of the Deal.
>>60147780If tariffs remain even just the 10% worldwide you will have plenty of time to get back into the market.
>>60147799I wouldn't say that. Never doubt the market's optimism, especially when the winds change too suddenly. Half of tomorrow's volume is going to be the Big Boys protecting themselves.You could see a lot of fake support being made, which could push it mildly green if there's no sudden news during the day.
>>60147549When are these countries going to understand that giving in to a bully only encourages further bullying. Jesus fucking christ grow some balls and tariff them back.
>>60147731Lutnick comes off as a hack. I remember him talking about the Gold Card that Trump is pushing and saying it will bring in some absurd amount of money because there are currently X amount of illegals and if they all buy it at 5 mil a pop, think of the profit.
>>60147835small countries like vietnam have basically no leverage and a lot of their economy depends on American consumerism
>>60147835this isn't a disney moviethey are poor and can't afford their economies to completely shatter because the bully with all the money and power makes it soyou have to compromise in the sake of self preservation while the bully self-immolates and hope by the time it's over you're still around to make a deal with the new kid on the block
>>60147714Price of doing business should've built them in America I've been told
>>60147858they literally made the numbers big for the lulz and haven't even read what the fuck they put out
BREAKING: Gold has been reportedly been used to meet the largest margin calls since Covid 2020 from hedge funds this week, per Standard Chartered.
>the bear cockiness index is reaching all time highsThis is a strong reversal signal.
apparently the saudi market is down almost 7% today
>>60147858The US is no different that Putin's Russia now. The Great Leader's word is ultimate.
BREAKING: Taiwan announces temporary short-selling restrictions after US tariffs
>>60147867I'm starting to believe they actually used ChatGPT to make the tariff list.
>>60147886Where have you been?
>>60147871Maybe that's mostly because oil prices have fallen?
>>60147858>what they're doing has no basis in economics nor trade law>nuh uh you just don't like us
>>60147823There's no win here ultimately. If it works out, there was unquestionably a better way to do it. If it doesn't work out, the country is done.
>>60147858Wasn't the four constant just there to cancel out the 0.25 constant to make the equation look more complicated than necessary
>>60147858>4 times to high Unironcally the numbers make alot more sense with they divided by 4 the highest would 25 percent
>>60147867>We have the best numbers, the biggest numbers, they are so big, people come into my office and say "You have the best numbers", and it's true, it's true, we have the biggest and most beautiful numbers
>>60147900>This country is done if people can't trade imaginary numbersthis is why no one takes you seriously
>>60147913a 2.5% flat tariff wouldn't even be that bad
>>60147894Does OPEC cut production?
>>60147867reaffirms my belief they don't intend for the big number to stick for long, maybe they keep the 10% blanket for a bit though
>>60147935
zoomer retard here getting into stocksWhen is the generational bottom, and when do i buy in? what are things I should dump 2k into into and forget about it, or any tips on day trading?
I shouldn't have sold SOXS on Friday damn
>>60147944>the higher number to stick longI gather the amdin os divided beetween two camps and Navarro is the guy who supports the retarded numbers
>>60147858>"AEI has never been a friend of the president's.They are reaching NK levels
>>60147955The generational bottom was 5 years ago
>>60147857>>60147860There is no compromise they can make that will make Trump back down, don't you get that? Their best bet is to try to team up with other countries to cause as much pain as possible for the US.
>>60147858Democrats are now the party of business. I don't even know what the fuck Republicans stand for any more.
>>60147935They're in the process of increasing production. I doubt they'll suddenly move in the opposite direction.
>>60147969we have always been at war with eastasia
>>60147944this has to be the explanation.
seriously how the fuck did he do it?
>>60147972damnwell, when should i buy in this year?
guys dont be so down on trump please
https://www.berkshirehathaway.com/letters/growing.pdfBuffett spitballed cap-and-trade for the trade deficit 22 years ago, kind of interesting now. Though trade deficit as % of gdp has stabilized since then
>>60147955Buy bonds. I think ZROZ is a good buy, riskiest treasurey play. The goal for 2025 is not to get wiped out. Trying to day trade this market as someone inexperienced is foolish.
>>60147496>>60147860What the FUCK are they even gonna negotiate about?Tariffs are ether there to stimulate domestic industry, or they are not here, and Nikke factories remain in Vietnam. That's fucking it.The only way I see this being logical is countries dumping money on Trump owned assets directly to avoid tariffs. Like, this whole tariff thing is just him extorting money for himself and his cronies. Are we this deep into corruption yet?
Big Wall Street trading desks will be staffed for tonight’s futures open, preparing for 'intense' selling — Fox Business reporter
Oh thank fuck the experts finally told me what to think
I'M SHAKING RNBut really, I expect a mid -3% futures. Then the real opening will soon be a -5%
>he bought the dip
Japanese economist: 'While the U.S. has gone mad, just let them stay, keep the mad man away'https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3fAOIN4aqE
>>60147978that's just self-destructionseriously what are you on about, so you realize how broken these poor countries' economies are? they're like 99% reliant on US consooomerism for their sweatshops to operatethe only real damage that can be done to the US is via the big partners (China, EU, NAFTA countries)
Trump's tariffs are fucking retarded and so is he>"Bringing back millions of manufacturing jobs!"It will decade many years for these jobs to materialize. It also doesn't help that Trump gave these ceo kikes the biggest tax cut in history and yet another tax cut is soon coming. They will just bide their time. A few will "announce" an investment in America, but will again just bide their time and cancel the project once Trump is gone>"America will be richer than ever!"This means nothing to the average American. It's just more tax cuts for rich kikes and money for Israel.
>>60148054I expect a mid -8% futures and a real opening of -14%
>>60148055why the fuck did it dump
>>60148059>Canada, Mexico>big partnerslel
>>60148054>-3% futures>mid
Odds of MSTR getting absolutely raped the coming months?
>>60147955Get BRK-B. The guy has 300B in cash and knows how to invest. Failing that wait a few more months and get SPY.
>>60148074because its over and you need that cash today to buy bullets and MREs
>>60148000he must be so happy right now. like unironically happy. after all those years it FINALLY happened.
Muh>EVERYONE BENDING TEH KNEE!If Trump is so unhappy withe tariffs from Mexico/Canada, why didn't he get the tariffs (or lack of) that he wanted when he signed USMCA? I'm convinced this retard just signs whatever is put in front of him.
>>60147292Madagascar, Galapagos and Penguin Empire had to be tariffed because their FENTANYL EXPORTS are a THREAT to AMERICA.
>>60148074Same reason gold and silver are dumping -- liquidity crunch. Everyone's getting margin called, so they're selling anything they have to stay afloat.
Crypto is just futures market open 24/7 isnt it
>we will bring back manufacturing to America. so many wonderful jobs>will the average american be okay paying 30 dollars for a 10 dollar shirt?>no no, the factories will be completely automated with robots and stuff
>>60148078are you fucking retarded
>>60148089Majority of my portfolio is BRK-A, but it hasn't dropped much during the crash, so it might still drop a bit more. Still a very solid long term hold.
>>60147980MIGA
>>60148000Checked
>>60148059Placing some tariffs on US goods isn't going to damage Vietnam's economy by much, so they might as well do it since Trump isn't going to take the tariffs off anyway. By cowtowing down to Trump they give him a propaganda win.
>>60148107Whatever Americans say out loud all of us are consumers first
>>60148074Big fish probably got margin called in another position and had to liquidate BTC to cover.
>>60148097Wait so institutions do x3 leverages on regular stocks or how exactly are they getting margin called. Or do you mean retail is getting margin called aswell
>>60148107It won't be $30 for a $10 shirt. The corporate kikes will adjust. We sold made in America shit for centuries without this massive inflated price.>>no no, the factories will be completely automated with robots and stuffAnd H1-B visas, which Trump loves now.
what happens to options expiring 4/7 if the third circuit breaker hits and markets close? are they still allowed to sell or are they stuck in execute or expire?
>>60148113>BRK-Athat's like close to a million a pop?
>>60148110
>>60148133institutions do 1000x leverage because they can actually crunch the numbers and calculate the odds of profiting
>>60148113>Majority of my portfolio is BRK-A...Unusual.
Does anyone know if the futures market will gap down when it opens? Like if I go short immediately on market open will it still be too late?
>>60148143I can't tell if you're a bot or not, but yes Canada and Mexico are our biggest fucking trading partners you lip smacking retard
>>60148057what else can they so desu
>>60148134How is importing a bunch of foreigners to work in factories better than importing finished goods from things made abroad?
>>60148113>BRK.A
>>60148137It was 800k earlier last week, lost about 60k in 1 day.
>>60148153>Canada and Mexico are our biggest fucking trading partnerslollmao even
>>60148113Yes once the dust settles I will go big on BRK then some income shit and a bit left for me to trade with. Maybe 60%, 30% and 10%. I 100% cash right now.
>>60148107>no no, the factories will be completely automated with robots and stuffAnd here they come! So many beautiful robots to power our industry and help us with demographics.
>>60148157>How is importing a bunch of foreigners to work in factories better than importing finished goods from things made abroad?Beats me....
>>60148105not at all but we have nothing else to watch right now
>>60148014Overlooked point of the whole trade defecit.
alright nevermind it's a literal bot nice anti-bot measures you got there jannies
>>60147912Yeah it was just dimensional analysis to backfill a justification the real policy. That argument is a waste of time except as a play in political football, they're saying the units don't match up but the administration doesn't care about that shit
I lost 8k last week. I always went for the diamond hand strategy. Buy and never sell. I feel like shit. I lost almost my whole profit over the last 3 years. US stocks are a meme. Should I sell it all tomorrow or just hold for some compensation? I am very pessimistic right now, I expect more countries to answer Trumps tariffs with even more tariffs...
>>60148154He's talking about teaming up with China and SK.
>>60146683I keep hearing market will keep going down and when it finally bottoms out it won't come back up. Is this true?
>>60148207absolutely, this time is different
>>60147053years upon years of fuck-ups by literally everyone creating a perfect storm which we now have to weather through. Democrats for not knowing how to run against him, Republicans for allowing him to run in the first place, establishment for plugging it's ears and pretending he doesn't exist, anti-establishment for just being plain retarded. These are the seeds we all planted, and we're reaping a bloody harvest.
>>60148195did you sell? if not no loss is realizedit will go up in 5 years>>60148207there will be at least a single day rally this week, I hope it's Tuesday tho
2hr15m til futures right?
>>60148151it depends on how you sell exactly, and what buy pressure is on market open, AFAIK
>>60147955this is the post that convinced me we are a long ways away from the bottom lol
>>60148179When people start handwringing about "the dollar's status as the global reserve currency" it's the one time I feel like I really have alpha
>>601482212hr15m until the final dawn
Welcome back to Mad Money Cramerica. We’ve got Anon from /biz/ on the line. Anon?
>>60148134Tariffs basically set a floor for prices though. If they push the price of an imported shirt up to $30, then what incentive does a US producer have to price below that? Maybe they'll do $29 just for a slight undercut... but if they were making a shirt for $15 before and selling it for $16 for $1 profit... they're not going to keep the price at $16. They're going to push it to $29 and now take $14 in profit.
What are the odds that we hit at least 1 circuit breaker tomorrow?
>>60148241
>>60148179I'm starting to think Trumps real mission is to undermine the U.S. dollar. When we cut off Russia from SWIFT it forced them to come up with their own mechanisms. Combined with BRICS you have essentially a growing anti-dollar economy internationally. Throw in Peter Thiel who seems to hate the dollar and wants everything to be crypto so he can never be taxed and it seems like everything is lined up against the dollar.
>>60148219I sold nothing as of now. I always regret it when I sell stuff. But I think I nothing more left than to hold.
>>60148241>HELP HELP HELP THEYRE WELDING THE WINDOWS SHUT THEY WONT LET US JUMP THEYRE BARRING THE DOO- *kkssshrrrssshkkkk* *beep*
>>60148207>I keep hearing market will keep going down and when it finally bottoms out it won't come back up. Is this true?Have you niggers already forgot the Covid? There is gotta be several green days and powerful pumps to stabilize the market. Greedy and retarded bears will kill themselves and only then it would dump for real.
>>60148241>CRAMER, YOU TOLD ME NOT TO TRUST NIPPON STEEL, BUT THE DEAL STILL HASNT HAPPENED? BUY??
>>60148248>If they push the price of an imported shirt up to $30, then what incentive does a US producer have to price below that?Knock out the competition. Arms races for a lower price is a thing. And there are probably more than 1 American manufacturer for these items. They will essentially be competing with each other.
>>60147114actually the most shorted weekend ever
>>6014825050/50it either happens or it doesn't
Also these fags can't actually implement the tariffs. They literally tried to do it a month ago in a much smaller scale and suspended immediately because customs is utterly underfunded and incompetent.
>>60146885Good. I hope they cost 100k so jews cant afford to post garbage on the web
>>6014825050% percent of the time it happens all the time
>>60146762>Raiders pillage your house and steal your landyou dont realize how bad it's going to get
>>60148290>jews>can't affordlel they're gonna be the only ones that can afford it
>>60148252I suspect this too. Maybe he and people around him are heavily invested in crypto. That will be one thesis. Another one is that he is an idiot.
>Saudi Arabia slashes oil prices for Asia after surprise OPEC+ output hikeDonny boy, you buddy bin salmon is doin sumfin
>>60147053It's the "and then one day for no reason at all Hitler was voted into power" thingThere's a large population in America that have nothing to lose and feel like the system is rigged against them so they voted for Trump to flip the board
>>60148250Circuit breakers were hit on the open friday for about 45 seconds
>>60148241>what's going on in there?
>>60148252Weakening the dollar without it losing reserve currency status and lowering the 10 year t note was one of the few stated goals of Bessent and Trump that seems plausible (i.e not deranged propaganda like bringing manuf. back to US). It's already working.
>>60146885Is this what buying an iPhone is like for thirdies?
>>60148250nothing ever happens
>>60148287I also heard that judges can rule that tariffs are fake and gay because there is no emergency and this is executive overreach. I want that to happen purely to see MAGAtard seethe and scream.
>oh the red? that's futures
shots fired!Fox: Elon Musk took a shot on you on X and he's going against the administration with respect to tariffs. Is there a rift?Counselor to the President of the United States Peter Navaroo: Look, Elon when he's in his DOGE lane is great, but we understand what's going on here. Elon sells cars. He's simply protecting his own interests
>>60148241Yeah, hi Jim. What do you think of holding American Express, Chevron, Coca-Cola, and the major Japanese trading houses for, like, a century?
>>60146885Based. Fuck instagram whores.
>>60148313Hitler was voted into power after a consistent period of intimidating, beating, and arrested members of the other political parties so they would give him emergency powers to suspend the separation of powers.>>60148345Yes, there was a suit filed. It should wait until after monday tho :3
>>60148274The exact opposite happened last time tariffs were raised, and that was only by a small amount. They pushed imported home appliances up by a couple hundred bucks, and mysteriously all of the American manufacturers also increased their prices by about a couple hundred bucks.
>>60148261>expecting another v shaped recoveryThis is exactly why I'm going to be shorting monday. Too many covid zoomers think that the fed will rescue the market again despite rampant inflation.
>>60147858the purity spiraling begins>captchaoh shit, MAGA Pol Potism is on the table
>>60148241henlo mister cramerone quick question rightpeepee or poopoo?!
>>60146683>btc won't go below 82k>its decoupling from the dollarWhere is that faggot? It's just another worthless speculative asset
I'm new on this what you recommend me?
>>60148352this is navarros moment to shine he has waited all his life for this. he went to prison for this
>>60146791I voted MAGA and I'm up 60% shorting your DEI trash zombie stocks. I love shorting bear markets, they always give the fastest, fattest and quickest gains. Keep holding your Fagnificent 7 stocks, dork.
>>60148389>if I say things they are truewords are free anon, anyone in the planet from the dumbest retard to the most delusional faggot can post and everyone has the exact same appearance
>>60148261Yeah honestly I was drinking a lot during covid but I did hold the entire time
>>60148363>The exact opposite happened last time tariffs were raised, and that was only by a small amount. They pushed imported home appliances up by a couple hundred bucks, and mysteriously all of the American manufacturers also increased their prices by about a couple hundred bucks.Interesting. What year did this happen?
>>60148396Suicide if you're invested in any American company that depends on imports
>>60148389I would've short bitcoin, but I never learned how to trade it in the first place.
>>60147053>>60147130because it is the regime will you low iq dumbasses, i cant believe its the curent year and you morons still think that the political theater is actually real and organic, read about elite theory
>>60148431elite theory?
>>601484092018https://www.marketwatch.com/story/buying-washing-machines-dishwashers-is-more-expensive-after-trump-tariffs-2018-11-14
Is Brazil/Mexico still smart money? It seems like everyone has piled in on the assumption that they'll prosper on the 10% tariff but then Australia has been fucked up by 10% even when most of the trade is to China. >>60147496>- United Kingdom: Engaged in talks for an economic pact and aims to reduce U.S. tariffs on British goods.Trump has said a trade deal will only come with chlorinated chicken and free speech so that seems dead in the water. The government has instead signalled that it's considering reciprocal tariffs.
btw why are 2pibbers so fucking retarded? it's very obvious
>>60148409NTA but I there's a paper out there studying this issue. I can't remember where I read this but anon's right.
>>60148419I don't have anything except bitcoin
>>60148409the last time trump tried to do tariffs with choinacompanies just waited them out lmao
>>60148446>NTA>muh tourists don't know about IDs
2 HOURS UNTIL DEATH
>>60148000unlike this term the first term was mostly staffed by people capable of tardwrangling trump when he sperged outthis term is nothing but unironic bootlickers and spineless hacks in every post
>>60148241>Welcome back to Mad Money Cramerica. We’ve got Anon from /biz/ on the line. Anon?Hey Cramer, I'm here with my son; he has a ROTH he contributes to. He wanted to ask you, and I quote, "will these tariffs will rape our portfolios bussy"?? And if so, what should we do to mitigate losses?
>>60148400Shorting American companies especially after they capitulated to Trump in person? Wow how Un-American you must be, I don't know why you're going after me if you don't even believe in the man you voted for
>>60148437Maybe he means Gaetano Mosca?
>>60148454Negro I don't check the ID of everyone who replies to me.
>>60148437Italian elite theory pioneered by Gaetano Mosca
>>60148447Oh then definitely suicide that's gonna die with the dollar.
>>60148450Thanks, I feel like there's a real possibility that crypto will go apocalyptic. Bitcoin has never experienced a real recession before.
>>60148469newfagness aside, that's a bot, don't bother responding
>>60148467yes, there are also others
>>60148469Nigga is you stupid? You don't need to check anyone's ID, buy everyone can see you're NTA
how much of my 401k should i immediately switch into bonds
>>60148439But, you said "American manufacturers increased their prices". Are any of these things even MADE in America. I get that tariffs increase prices, but you made it sound like "the ones made in America went up in price too"
>>60148400I think hes talking about all the boomers that will lose their retirements. Well deserved for voting for that retard.
>>60148345Fug imagine having that hanging over the economy for the next 8 years. The tariffs get repealed but the Trump admin and supporters collectively go apeshit and try to impose even more while the rest of the world has absolutely no interest in trusting that the tariffs won't come back.
>>60148478STFU Lazy Jap
>>60148493>Gaetano Mosca100% guaranteed 5% returns seems pretty good
>>60146739>if the euros actually follow through on rearmamentlmao
>>60148451>companies just waited them out lmaoThis is what I've been saying too. Trump gave them a huge tax cut and they know 100% that another tax cut is coming. They also think Trump will either crack, or just finish his term and weather the storm.
>>60148493>how much of my 401k should i immediately switch into bondsYou could do $201k in bonds, and then put the other $200k into the market, in tranches :)
>>60148409>>60148446Here's some more recent stuff looking backhttps://bfi.uchicago.edu/insight/research-summary/production-relocation-and-price-effects-of-us-trade-policy-the-case-of-washing-machines/https://finance.yahoo.com/news/higher-prices-extra-jobs-lessons-from-trumps-washing-machine-tariffs-185047360.htmlhttps://www.investopedia.com/what-happened-the-last-time-trump-imposed-tariffs-8785151Basically:>trump puts tariffs on washing machines>imported machines cost more>domestic manufacturers raise prices to match, keep the profit>tariffs expire>imported machines go back down>domestic manufacturers lower prices to match>>60148497Yes, companies do actually make some washing machines in America. The washer running behind me is a a Whirlpool and it says directly on it: "Country of Origin: USA"
>>60148503>8
I want to short but the market is so fraudulent and gay that I'm worried I'll lose money. Plus, everyone and their grandmother is bearish right now.
>>60148493401K :^)
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>>60148345>implying trump listens to the courts anymore Hes been openly defying them for months now lmao
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>>60148546well its a little different in this kind of situation because you can't just physically deport your trade imports like you can some dude from guatemala
>>60148530>"Country of Origin: USA"That's a VERY vague term often used. I've seen "Made in America" but that could mean "parts from other countries ASSEMBLED in America" or "parts from America assembled in other countries" or 1 part in America, the rest somewhere else"
>>60148311What's interesting here is Russia supported this too. Perhaps we'll see 20-30$/barrel for a time and up to 100+ from there when some prucers are choked out of the market.I wonder if US still tries to move against Iran.
If the markets open below -7%, does the circuit breaker kick in immediately?How does that work?
>>60148498I was actually talking about the magapedes who brought every dip, but sure the boomers too
>>60148564Yeah, it for sure includes parts from overseas. But the Country of Origin designation isn't as vague as you think. There are a lot of rules about how much something needs to be built in the USA for it to get to say it was made in the USA. They can't just have some guy "screw the door on" and slap a flag sticker on it.
Dunno why everyone is going on about bonds being so safe. Remember two years ago or so when Teresa May, the then UK prime minister, decided to go full retard and try to collapse the UK economyand bonds collapsed
>>60148497>sound like "the ones made in America went up in price too"Of course they will increase in price, the machinery, materials and parts of any product manufactured in the USA have components that are imported from abroad, what product is 100% made in the USA? Tariffs will affect the whole chain, if a company manufactures x component of a machine, sends it to x country for assembly and imports it again to the US, it will be suffering the tariffs three times.
>>60148546>Hes been openly defying them for months now lmaoThat's a much bigger issue however. He can, absolutely, ignore the courts and just do shit, but it would be moving situation towards full on MIGA dictatorship or/and civil war.
>>60148579if we're sub $50 a barrel you're going to see serious issues with domestic American producers, which is probably the point of this imo
>>60148612obviously not all bonds are cut from the same cloth, much like not all stock preform the same. US treasuries, for example, are usually considered a safe bet, at least traditionally. Who in their right mind would buy bong bonds?
>>60148612The UK is run by morons on the right and foreign invaders on the left.
>>60147053USA is an experiment gone wrong. Time to end this experiment. It had a good run.
>>60148635Likely. Both Ru and SA+the Gulf have ~20-30$ threshold to stay in the green. I can see them trying to squeeze Kazakhstan, Iraq, Nigeria out. Big ones are kinda tired that those three have been producing over the quota for years now.
>>60147053Remember when we made fun of dumb scenes like this?I can't believe a dumb kid shit I used to make fun of actually playing exactly that way.
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>>60146683Are we getting more bearish tomorrow? Strongly thinking of putting my entire portfolio in inverse leveraged funds.
>>60147935OPEC is increasing production by over 3 times what they previously planned. Oil demand is crashing (Cause everyone is now predicting a recession and collapse of global trade), so they're trying to make some extra sales before the market downturn, and because prices are still high enough this is an opportunity for them to squeeze american oil producers
>>60148252Yeah. I truly think Trump wants to end the dollar as the reserve currency. Using this as a basis everything starts to make sense. People are saying this can't happen for another 10 years, but why? What change needs 10 years to happen? He is going to do it quickly.
>>60148790devon energy got hit bretty hard
>>60148865Personal trust funds to ease liquidity amongst the common man. You make a fund i make a fund, we toss each other a share and see whos worth more down the line, then cash in. Allows the trust to be used as collateral for liquidity. Quite literally the only use case of crypto i can think of. Everyones got their own "tokenized shares" to issue out based on the value of a chunk of their networth set aside as a means of credit exchange. Credit cards [the physical magnet stripe card] will be for rich people and the plebs will transact with their phones trading digital bits.Kings and gentlemen will trade in gold and silver
>>60148498Boomers turned Democrat this election, Trump voters were all Gen Z and Gen X. The only ones showing up to all these protests are all 70 year old Boomers lmao. Good riddance, hope they end up on the streets.
>>60148463You still don't understand that this is a intentional revolt that you're on the losing side of, do you? You just really are that fucking dumb. Wow.
>>60148790Makes sense. I just assume whenever oil prices fall they cut production. I don't know what their magic number per barrel is. The other factors I didn't consider.
>>60149185IIRC the breakeven price varies by country, some like Saudi Arabia and other gulf states break even at only $10 a barrel, Russia is $30-40 I think and last I saw American Shale is in the mid 50s.this is somewhat misleading though because this isn't taking into account lavish budgetary spending based on oil prices, which for a lot of these states is a lot higher than their "clean" breakeven. I remember when Venezuela shit the bed their fiscal breakeven oil price was above $100 a barrel
>>60147582Oh no no no no no no.lmaoWho'd do such a thing? XD
