Don't Give Up edition>Educational sites:https://www.investopedia.com/https://www.khanacademy.org/economics-finance-domain>Charts/Screeners/Data:https://www.tradingview.comhttps://finviz.com/https://www.investing.com/indices/indices-futureshttps://finance.yahoo.com/>Live Streams:https://www.newslive.com/american/cnbc.htmlhttps://www.livestreamy.net/bloomberg/https://tvpass.org/channel/fox-business>Gambling:https://www.optionsprofitcalculator.comhttps://optionstrat.com/https://www.optionistics.com/quotes/option-prices>Calendars:https://www.marketwatch.com/economy-politics/calendarhttps://www.earningswhispers.com/calendarhttps://www.chabad.org/holidays/default_cdo/jewish/holidays.htmhttps://www.cmegroup.com/trading/interest-rates/countdown-to-fomc.html>Responsible Investing:https://www.bogleheads.org/wiki/Getting_startedhttps://www.sec.gov/search-filings>Misc smg:https://www.portfoliovisualizer.comhttps://finance.yahoo.com/trending-tickershttps://www.dividendchannel.com/drip-returns-calculatorhttps://brokerchooser.com/Previous: >>60170466
>JUST IN: Multiple stock trading firms are reporting data and some trading outages affecting market data on multiple exchanges.
TKD
>we're back
????
WHEN WILL IT DUMP
CNBC was talking about circuit breakers this morning, wait for the dump to come in. S&P to 4000 EOD
>>60171780is it up or down?green or red?
>Fed closed door meetingIts happening!!
China is litterally going to die tonight. Black Monday in the US was averted, but the rest of the world is going to have a heart attack
NEARLY TIME TO BUY AGAIN!!!
sold everything on the last bounce. see you boys at the bottom.
Still doesn't feel like the market is pricing in the tariffs. Prices should drop a lot more even if it was just the China tariffs that stuck.
The final hail mary shot at stopping or softening the tariffs is Israel. Bibi is visiting the White House tonight, and if anybody in the whole world can make Trump stand down it'd be him. I dunno, hold the Epstein shit over him or something, they've gotta have something on Trump.If Trump does strike a deal with Bibi and Israel gets spared, expect a huge spike tonight as people will expect other countries to get deals too. But, if somehow Trump actually remains stubborn, I think that'll signal the beginning of the end and people will finally begin to accept that this is actually happening.
First for fuck the LA Dodgers!
I must admit, SQQQ looks overbought.
>down -4% at open>fake article makes it go +2%>trump announces (potential) 104% tariff on china>its at -1.5% now which is higher than open when 104% tariff on china wasnt thought possiblethis shit is fake and retardedshould be outlawed
ONE MORE TIME, WE'RE GONNA CELEBRATEOH YEAH, ALL RIGHT, DON'T STOP DANCINGONE MORE TIME, WE'RE GONNA CELEBRATEOH YEAH, ALL RIGHT, DON'T STOP THE DANCING
bottoms in
new to stocks and shit. are today's charts supposed to be normal?
What's the @ that will announce the Chinese response to the 100% tariffs????
uhhhh what's stopping Xi from going after the fabs now?
>>60171791>the recovery is literally fake>all trades are null and void>the system has literally collapsed
>>60171819What about a closed door but with windows open meeting? Or a closed door, slightly closed windows, and dimmed lights meeting?
>>60171835don't worry, it will fall when china announces equal 50% tariff
>>60171850no
Thread theme:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MbzwWGj192c
>>60171838He's only concerned about staying in power so he doesn't end up in prison. He doesn't care about the markets.
>>60171817BOTH
and just like thathttps://youtu.be/BiP0FpY88E4
Miss him yet?
i hope china just embargos the usa in response.
>>60171835Markets are pricing in tarrifs which is why it is crabbing. More tariffs on China means China is dead and the US is the only show in town
we crabbin'
>>60171844It's already worth investigating because that manipulation was clearly intentional. But no one will bother investigating it.
>>60171801So far it has been a crab with bobo characteristic (downwards).
>>60171822Today is the calm before the storm, tomorrow and the day after that will decide everything
NASDAQ is trending upProbably a good sign
>>60171848lmao ching chong ping pongi'm a lifelong wrestling fan and to me it seems that most of this is a "work"
snibbity snab :dddddddddddd
>>60171852They are sleeping right now also I assume tomorrow
this is how markets with 105% tariffs announced look like
oh didn't even notice the sp hit 5k again
>>60171850It is now.
This is boring, I wanted to see at least a lvl 1 circuit breaker...
>>60171780
>>60171877Even the sypnosis on this movie was stupid
>>60171875Agreed, but that's also exactly the kind of damage Israel can do to him. Even if all they do is get their dual citizens to drop Trump's support, that'd be enough to kill Trump's hopes of enacting any sort of policy. Congress would flip against Trump, they're more indebted to Israel than to Trump.
>>60171878>>60171903WE ARE SO FUCKING BACK
So are we just not even attempting to price them in until Wednesday? The cope is insane.
>>60171887I hope China swallow their pride and quits being retarded. The US can afford to play this game of chicken, the Chinese cannot.
guys, does the S&P 500 rise 8.62% in 34 minutes during bull markets or bear markets?
uhh boy that pattern on the SPY looks really familiar......
>>60171839Based. Can't stand the jap slurping
>>60171899*tonightChinese stock will be a fucking bloodbath unseen in economic history>>60171865They can't unless they want to go even lower. China is not a consumer market and needs to export.
All memes aside why are American stocks not dumping
US debt default100% Tariffs on China tomorrowTRUST THE PLAN
>>60171932depends
i would dump my remaining stocks, but kinda hoping for another fake pump.
>>60171932Unironically bear markets, the spikes during bear markets can be insane. The COVID crash had a +8% day flanked by huge dumps.
>>60171926the market had enough after todays shenanigans
>>60171838is this after market close?
>>60171932>>60171939
>>60171943everyone is extremely delusional that the tariffs will be postponed
>>60171932yes
>>60171943First it was fake news pumping stocks and now people wanting to keep that fake pump, and second is China's death rattle and people panic buying into ETFs
>>60171943>All memes aside why are American stocks not dumpingMission accomplished
>>60171932bear markets are characterized by insane volatility, its why they say dont catch the falling knifeyou can lose a ton of money like with todays dump
>>60171808I hate him so much! That’s actually pretty funny though. I just hope we crash than bounce to new highs. All would be forgiven.
>>60171932bear markets
>>60171967Lot of folks are still in the denial stage of grief.
>>60171929>I hope China swallow their pridethe glorious ccp would never
The waves from the short squeeze are losing steam. Market will plunge
I think americans are bullish.
>>60171967A random twitter person said they were considering a 90 day delay and it shot up for like 10 minutes today.
>>60171791Yeah I tried to buy 3X short MSTR and couldn't. They are panicking and turning shit off.
>>60171967Well, like ackman said it's nuclear war if they do go into effect, so clearly he'll back down from such a thing.
guys it's falling..
YOU WILL SNIPPETYAND YOU WILL SNAPPETY
>>60171967Nope People are optimistic about long term As the companies should be more profitable in the future
>>60171929Are you sure? All China has to do is surround Taiwan with its army to send a message to the orange man.
>>60171977people don't yet realize how massive of a hit it will be if the factory of pretty much everything the west consumes gets closed. the west will never be able to start new factories as quick as china
>>60171929>The US can afford to play this game of chicken, the Chinese cannottopkek
>>60171998but the thing is there's a 30% chance he does remove Israel tariffs and that will confirm their delusions>>60172023this has nothing to do with long term, all recent price movements revolve around tariffs
I mean that is the most blatant triple top I have ever seen in my entire life
>>60172022ALL OF YOUR MONEYIS GOING TO CRAPPITY
>>60172005I know. The Chinese place so much value on appearing strong and outright demanding shit, whereas the west is far better at manipulating things from the shadows. I think that's why they dislike/like Trump so much, he meshes with their culture for better or worse.
Okay.....what do I do bros....should I just sell my XIU.TO and XSP.TO as the losses are not that bad on those as I bought them far before VFV. If I sell those that will get me 27k CAD that I can just dump into VFV to get my average down and buy the dip a bit.....maybe wait until tomorrow to see if things keep dumping.....that or do I just stop looking at my account and go do something else for a few weeks.
>>60171929>The US can afford to play this game of chicken, the Chinese cannot
>>60172008 chinks need us like white on rice
>>60171915Leonardo of Biz - The Clown Timeline
>>60171780Wholesome pic OP, good choice in these trying times.
>>60172013>MSTRFuuuck, I knew I forgot to short something today.
Ummmm bros?
>>60172030Do it faggot. China can't even take the Kinmen Islands
Post CHINA kinohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlepm2h5D1w
everyone's taking a break to do some blow or eat lunchmarket fun will resume in an hour or two
>>60171929>The US can afford to play this game of chicken, the Chinese cannot.I don't think that's true, anon
>>60172040I wouldn't be surprised if treasury is pumping money in to keep it afloat and make it seem not so bad compared to other markets
>>60172051 stop being a pussy and hold you paper hands faggot
Well, /smg/?
How do I play at this casino without going crazy?
>>60171943Trump can't be serious about all this tariff nonsense. Why, it's just too out of the ordinary. It's clearly some kind of grand strategy, a negotiating tactic. He will soon announce he made an amazing deal, declare victory, remove all tariffs, and buy all of my bags. That's because Trump is surrounded by intelligent, rational people who are highly educated about economics. And Trump historically is a level-headed, humble leader who listens to the people around him for high-quality advice.Furthermore, if you think about it, this whole thing is completely unprecedented! And that's why I'm certain it will all go away by next week. Trump would never break with tradition and do something so audacious and foolish: after all, it's just not the way things work around here! Everything will be back to normal soon, you'll see.
>>60171929USA wants complete capitulation either way. Tariffs are only an excuse.
The Birds Stop Chirping.The Baboon Runs Back To His Cave.The Birds Are Silent.The Monkeys Stop Howling.Look at VVIX.
>>60172039The long term optimism keeps the line from dropping too far Which is what the anon asked
I keep holding to EMBRAC though this all shit though. Kingdom Come Deliverance was a huge hit and there are 3 DLC-s coming. People will play good games even if market crashes.
>>60171838Fuck, I had the same thoughts but didn’t know it was tonight. Fuck zero hedge, I was so close to my targets. I hate Slavs so fucking much it’s unreal.
>>60172054I am very glad your are capable of reading faggot.
>>60172084Fuck WRONG VERSION. This one is a bangerhttps://youtu.be/NPcD_2x2oW0
>>60172030They haven't dropped an explosive in more than 70 years.
>Boomers who grew up in post-WW2 superomegaeconomicprosperity glory days for multiple decades voted in a NYC con artist because Mexicans have the gall to work low-end slave labor jobs (which their much-beloved corporate overlords profited off of massively, mind you)>He takes a literal shit all over their retirement plans in the middle of their twilight yearsHeh
>>60172084https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hZ2Uy6K1RU
why can't they all just trade like frens and that will be an end to this horror
>>60171929China is a much stronger country than burgerland.
Am i the only one who is surprised that world markets are still reacting to this like it's 2011? "Oh the U.S. is fucking itself and creating a global recession scare. Buy U.S. bonds!" At what point long-run do people wake up and dump U.S. stocks, U.S. bonds, and USD?
Back from my nap, did all the boomers die yet?
>>60172084https://youtu.be/7CawoPNkY00Year of the Snake, baby.
>>60172100tbf, this has been the winning strategy for decades.
>>60172097yes
>Everyone on biz was spamming Orange Monday during the weekendCrazy how Orange Monday got canceled due to fake news about pausing tariffs for 90 daysBIZ LOSES AGAIN
>>60172106It's really 'Either join the British Empire as subjects by gifting us your treasures, or be acquired as vassals as we take your people as slaves' talk at the moment, yeah.
>>60172094My hands aren't that paper....I've been holding U for 4 years and was down 82% at one point on it. But I guess you are right a bit, just need to take the L and accept that I will have to sit on the side lines as everyone slurps up this heavy discount and see red for probably a year.
>>60172128people shouldn't be allowed to vote over a certain age
>>60172084https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KcKqOTxkrM0
>>60172128YOUR KILLING US !!!!
>>60172100Maybe getting shot at and blatant last minute lawfare got to him. But he's been doing what he said he would do.
>>60172144I'm sure that several of them died from heart attacks and several more jumped out of windows with what happened.Don't check the chart. It won't be pretty.
>>60172128Your 401k, my empire. Sorry boomie but I got my own retirement to plan for, and you are not going to piss it away at a Vegas casino
>>60171879every day
WHY DIDN'T I BUY YANG
>>60172139No it isn't They have impressive infrastructure and manufacturing But the US still outclasses in most ways
>>60171967>tariffs will be postponedI think it is about everyone realizing Trump, individually, is absolutely crazy. He is demanding that the vassals of the American Empire prostrate themselves in front of him, full-on naked dogeza, rather than merely sending tribute. The market is realizing that he just might get what he wants, because the multi-polar alternative is not yet strong enough to flee to.
So is Trump the worst President in US history? When's the last time anyone fucked up this bad, and was so adamant they were right despite all the evidence?
>>60171791oh thats why the certs were unavailable. thankfully turbos still seem to work
Trump is a nonce
This is some nice red light therapy
k the black monday shit was overblowing itus still believes everything will just go awaybut it still went downand it'll go down more slowly but surely
So what are good Chinese stocks to accumulate after their market dies?
>>60171955Phew, good to hear.
>>60171844This. This day is the gayest and fakest I've seen in years.Don't forget how the fake news likely is from Trump's entourage to create an exit pump, conveniently just before the Chinese tariffs tweet.
>>60171908I'm pretty sure people have a hard time believing it, especially after that 90 day pause fake news earlier
>>60172183kek baggie
>Went from -20% to -5%>For a second trading day in a rowThis market is insane
All my friends are panic buying shit like PC parts and even cars.
>>60172190ACMR
>>60172183He is the very best.
>>60171929china is the same as america in how prideful it isthey won't back down, but they will pussyfoot until they reach a breaking point
>>60172201it's now on CNBC, maybe it will dump until close
>>60172128I dunno my mom's bedroom growing up was a literal basement broom closet
https://nltimes.nl/2025/04/06/jewelry-heists-surge-gold-price-hits-record-high
Bibi will come today and trump will make a big show of dropping tariffs and give the credit to bibi. Then the whole world will again feel indebted to Jews and Israel continues doing whatever it wants for another decade. That’s my guess.
AAAAAAAA WTF
>>60171838>Israel running a less than $8bn trade surplus with the USproblem>sending Israel a gorillion in aid every yearfine
>>60172195>CNBC creates literal fake news>Trump calls out fake news immediately>"T-THIS IS DRUMPF FAULT!!"Cope and seethe. Hedge fundies or Chinese tried to make Trump buckle, but it failed
>>60172054I wonder if he’s actually happy or not. I mean as a person.
>>60172143I think at the end of the day, if the US insists on tearing apart the global economy, the US economy is still the best bet in the end. If you think about it, in a dangerous, nationalistic, protectionist world, the strongest country is by far the best investment, and that has to be either China or the US. And if you live in the west, dumping all your money in Chinese bonds doesn't seem like the safest idea either.
>>60172183He is absolutely insane. I have no idea what happened to Trump, is he on some well hidden dementia (cause Chad genes)..2016 - 2020 was pretty okay, no he is a different person.
>>60171905https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1NdGBldg3wWhen are you gonna let us get the moves mr snibs?
Why dont these countries jsut remove their tariffs they have on us? Why do they think they can put tariffs on us but when we put them.back we are the big bad guy?
>>60172243Maybe Musk got him on Ketamine.
I might just hold my bear over the night at this rate. There is simply no way the market will recover from fake news. Wednesday is still unchanged.
>>60172211was gonna upgrade my 8 year old pc soon, but was going to wait till summer since spare cash is tight, now who knows. feelsbadman
>>60172247no
I honestly think that the market is hopeful that the tariffs will be reversed and it won't dump until they're actually in place
The best parr is how this fake and gay day only encourage Trump to go with the tariffs on the 10th.A Black Monday maybe could have made him go soft. Now it's truly over.
I fucking hate you fucking fags so much. I lost a lot of money because of you fucking faggots. I hope someone brakes into your house and murder you brutally.
DEFIANT
>>60172247It's not about tariffs, Trump is seething that nobody is buying big ugly American pick up trucks
>>60172260>tuesday pump because Israel trade deal
>>60172214America typically isn't that prideful and usually does shit from behind the shadows with the CIA and instigating shit in foreign countries. Trump's more direct approach is unique. China's entire culture is centered around appearing strong outwardly and using that strength to make demands of others. Trump is loved/hated in China because of this exact reason, because he speaks their language.
So what did we learn from today's stock market?
>Barely moving anymoreHow do we stop this?
>>60172190Fucking nothing
>>60172247Because these aren't Tariffs Trump's issue is trade deficit
>>60172247>Why dont these countries jsut remove their tariffs they have on us?Not enough. Look at Vietnam. Trump is not just negotiating about the objective number attached to tariffs, he is expressing an emotional narrative.
>>60172100Yes.
>>60172267PAY THE US TRIBUTE EUROPOORS
IT'S DUMPING IT'S OVER
>buy bunch of soxs my first time using a leveraged etf >downturn the second the hit buy and already losing money.
>>60172272>constitution says only congress can levy taxes>congress delegates the power of levying import taxes to the president>president actually uses the power>congress tries to take it back>president vetoes it anywayLOOOOL NO REFUNDS
>>60172247Most of them don't even have tariffs on the US. These aren't reciprocal tariffs, these are offensive tariffs. Trump lied to you, sorry you had to learn it here.
>>60172084https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJFNjH6b7eI&t=355s&ab_channel=Syn1
>>60172281I can't believe I voted for this retard
>>60172235It was zerohedge you low IQ pleb. Wrong as always.
>mfw I realize the true meaning behind "Orange Monday"
>>60172183It's not even close. He would be ranked last for the anti-democratic stuff alone.
>>60172281its a meme
>>60172282everyone will dump at the end of the day like they did friday
Anyone else here not hate their parents? I'll be fine because I'm in my 20s but I'm very worried about them and all the /pol/ zoomers talking about how they want them die makes me depressed because they clearly don't have a good relationship
>D-DRUMPF IS THE WORST PRESIDENT EVER!>t. Eurotard or chineseFunny seeing these rats scream
>>60172272>No one is coming to save you
Prepare for -25%
>>60172247It's not tariffs, seemingly he either actually hates trade deficits, or he is using this as threat and a way to shakedown other countries.
CUT MY LIFE INTO PIECES
>>60172330most people aren't good parents. why are you shocked that most kids hate them?
>>60172183>When's the last time anyone fucked up this bad, and was so adamant they were right despite all the evidencehim, the last time he was electedand then people elected him again anyway lol
>>60172281US wins and everyone else is inferior. We can litterally pump on a lie and never go back down while you all fucking die
>>60172167It's what you said Anon plus winning with a number bigger then Obama
>>60172339>the US is now a destabilizing forcewhat did he mean by this
>>60172243He wasn't surrounded by anything but sycophants first time aroundAsk yourself why barely anyone from his first term is still around him
WWWWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
grim.
>>60172346DOMP IT FINK. DO IT YOU FAGGOT
>>60172346
>>60172330I always assumed that internet commenters shitting on boomers were talking about people other than their own parents.
>>60171835KWEB is down 7% and missed the bounce. China tariffs are getting priced.
>>60172271Better luck next time!
>>60172330my parents are great. I just don't like boomers as an aggregate.
>>60172339>>60172346MAYBE YOU SHOULDN'T HAVE BOUGHT ALL THAT FUCKING HOUSING YOU DUMBASS
>>60172339>>60172346>Long term buying opportunity >destabilizing force
>>60172372sex with this creature
>>60172339>>60172346
>>60172274This. He was ranting about how japan doesn't buy any of our cars when we buy theirs. Surely this fucking retard has actually been to Japan before and seen that their trucks are literally less than half the size (I also wanna import one of their mini trucks lol) our shit literally doesn't fit on their roads
>>60172282It’s lunch time, dummy
Ngl. Thankful for times like these being spent with my /biz/ frens!
>>60172362I.e. not going along with the globalist agenda anymore
>>60172162kino
>>60172330Chuds have terrible relationships with their families. It's why there is a whole industry of surrogate daddys on the internet.
>>60172339unironically saying "buy the dip" hahahaha
>>60172383Who eats lunch at 9am???
>>60172367This is one of the guys that wants a collapse
>>60172281always do the opposite of what /smg/ tells youeveryone expected a >5% drop
>>60172381Hes so fucking stupid, I've given him a pass for so long but turning into a fucking baggie is the last straw
>>60172271should've bought the dip and dumped it, you aren't made for these streets.
guys what if it crabs forever and never drops
>>60171943people keep buying
>>60172346Looks bullish to me but I want to short this Rally
>>60172346ANONS IM A RETARD TELL ME CAN WE CHECK SOMEWHERE IF BLACK ROCK IS HEDGING!??!
VIX is risingTrillions must be wiped out
>>60172402i too do not believe in time zones.
>>60172410i really really like this picture, do you mind if i save it?
>>60172408Really the lesson is "don't bet against America or you die". The fact that everyone predicted a multiple circuit breaker day only for it to be around the 2-3% shows strength unmatched
>>60172310your so retarded its not even funny
just pick a direction you little shit
>>60172367bottom signal unironically
>>60172416What if I bet 100$ on 6/6 at the craps table?
>>60172330Me, my family is simply better. But I have friends so I know most American's older relatives are subhumans.
>>60172339Larry, you can always jump out of your office window.
>>60172444snibbidy
>>60171929China’s leaders said on Sunday that they were prepared for a trade war and that China could potentially come out stronger as a result. They can afford to ignore their people the way the US can’t because they’re communists. They’ve been building up trade relations with other countries for a situation like this, and since US is applying tariffs to everyone suddenly they look more agreeable than America.I don’t know what will happen, but the Trump administration sure looks like it’s stepping on its own dick.
>>60172310fell for it again rewardafter 2020 I gave up on him, hes cooked
>>60172433go ahead kind sir.
>Steadily falling againWhat's the odds we get a gradual decline til the end of the day?
>>60172281The inverse Cramer index is always accurate
Why are chinese stocks disconnected from their economy?Everyone knows their skittering offensive spider drones will flood the world and destroy any opposing armies but their stocks have been down since 2010
minus 2% feels so comfy now, it's almost like the market being up
>>60172471It's about to shoot up to +7%, wait and see
How in the fuck and why in the fuck did they pause the volatility?What a fucking scam.So I make a guaranteed play and they pause it. WtfSeriously, why did they pause the volatility specifically?
>>6017247150/50it either happens or it doesn't
>be blackrock>think line go up and home prices go up forever>buy out everything at market high to turn everyone into a rentoid>people just decide to live at home with family and market tsnksWill Fink get the final margin call to the firing squad?
>>60172471Pretty high, at least until Bibi gets to the White House. Then all bets are off until we know if Israel will escape unscathed.
>>60172471the israel tariffs are importantare there any timelines on that meeting?
tumpgive souli need soulme back adam
Fink thinks we're already in a recession
>>60172471Institutional EOD dump will happen again
>>60172441people just don't know when to double down and buy.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OnzkhQsmSag
Can any random retard pay a few dollars for a verified check on Twitter and spread another rumor about tariff pauses?
>>60172281we still have 4 more hours on this railroad coaster lets not draw conclusions yet
>you must make an account with your phone number and name attached to view our chartsFUCK OFF FUCK OFF FUCK OFF FUCK OFF FUCK OFF FUCK OFF FUCK OFF FUCK OFF FUCK OFF FUCK OFF FUCK OFF FUCK OFF FUCK OFF FUCK OFF FUCK OFF FUCK OFF FUCK OFF FUCK OFF FUCK OFF FUCK OFF FUCK OFF FUCK OFF FUCK OFF FUCK OFF I HATE DATA HARVESTERS
>META greenZuckerberg???
>>60172463>building up trade relationsHAHAHHHHAHAH no. They have been demanding everyone swear fealty to it and they have been met with people walking away. China is in a extremely week position as all they have is a bunch of debt slaves that can't pay out in times of turmoil.
>>60172330i have a good relationship with my parent's, then again they aren't left leaning retarded faggot boomers.
>>60172505Yes and there are already thousands of bots spreading completely random information for the sole purpose of causing as much chaos as possible.
>>60172499Well yeah, we just need to wait for all the data to come in and have it declared, but it's obviously already started.
>>60172514Whats the problem anon? you already had to do this to install windows 11 anyway :)
>>60172482>Why are chinese stocks disconnected from their economy?Unironically because communism. People simply don't invest in the stock market.
>>60172528Could well be but what was with that jobs report then
>>60172499REALLY
>it's going up>againplease trump-san get me off this wild ride
>>60172499No shit. The person behind the register probably also thinks we're in a recession.
>line going up again
>>60172463Ofc they did, remember what I told you about China's culture, appearing outwardly strong is a keystone in their society.And I doubt China can starve their population as they used to do in the 60s and 70s, China's growing middle class (a huge reason why they aren't as impacted by tariffs as they used to be) are getting very used to a more comfortable lifestyle. If they ignore their peoples needs their own internal consumption will massively decline and their big prideful economy will suffer and grow more dependent on exports or be forced to be propped up more and more by the Chinese state. China def has their own trading partners now, but that is exactly what Trump is seeking to disrupt and why he went crazy with tariffs. It's to force nations to pick a side and isolate the two trading blocs more.
AAAA
>>60172409cope, you are the only retard herehe's the President and rich, you are some pathetic faggot poorfag in 4chan
>>60172330I'm older but I get along great with my parents. Luckily my parents are retired but dont trust the (((markets))) so almost all of their money is in CDs/cash. Never understood the hate from MIGAtards on /pol/
>>60172297no even joking when I say the whole world pays the US tribute and has been paying tribute since after WW2 due to breton woods making the US dollar the reserve currency of the world.The problem is though, only the rich guys get the money while the poor get their labor made uncompetitively expensive due to the high value of the dollar.The money is created by loaning it into existance. The purest exploiters of this is the hedge fund buyout firms that buyout places like hobby lobby and then walk away from it leaving the debt to default with the company. That's the purest form of money printing we have without paying it back outside of the central banks.
>>60172556>>60172551but tthat's good
kek it formed a support nowslurpers win again
>>60171791I opened on -8% but my broker had "outages" till it was at -1% so I didn't get to average downhappens every fucking time too, kekthe only reason I haven't abandoned it yet is because it's probably better if I don't get to trade during high volatility anyway, I lose my marbles too hard over losses
HERE WE GOTRUMP WON
>>60172571But at what cost?
>double tariffsline go up>demand reparationsline go up>say you're not doing tariffsline go up>say you're actually doing tariffsline go up
>let's own the libs by destroying consumer economy>let's own the chinks by destroying dollar role as world trading currency>let's own euros by destroying century long alliancesPROSPERITYMAGAKILL ME
>>60172528You should have learned under Biden. Recessions are called by the government, not actual data. The government can just make up new math and say we are not in a recession
>>60172528It feels like we went from 20% chance to already started over a week.
>>60172542>implying w11i have shit ass w10 currently and i miss w7 so much
>>60172527This just in: Trump to replace American Flags with Sporks, announces Capri Sun as national drink. Is he crazy?
>>60172560at least im not a gay nigger like you lmao
>>60171835Short China. Calls on YANG. They're going to be biggest losers in all of this.
>>60172556https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xx1uLMvsmvkLul
>>60172084https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjxOYCJr42oI LOVE YOU CHINA
GO DOWN YOU FUCKING NIGGER I SWEAR TO GOD
/biz is now 50% Chinese shills, 25% JIDF shills 10% tranny reddit raiders, 14% lefty retards.
>>60172592BULLISH AS FUCKBUYBUYBUYBUY
>>60172594Chinese stocks already dropped a lot. You're just gonna get fucked when Xi announces stimulus.
>>60172605it will pump up 15% until wednesday and then collapse 20%
burger willpower is unbeatable bros
>>60172594US has much more to lose than China in that exchange
>>60172190YANG calls, because Chinese stocks are going lower.
>>60172339thats what they said last time and then came a gigapump
>>60172610Yeah. I love it.
>blackrock fink says market could fall even more>he thinks america is now a destabilizer of world economy>he thinks america is already in a recessionit's over
>>60172605samei would have been up 35% if I had sold puts at 9:45 am
I'm checking in with my guy at SpotGamma and yeah there's a massive gamma wall at 5,000 on SPX. The outcome truly depends on whether the vomma cyclone plays out or not. If it does, then the gamma wall will cave in.
>>60172610How many MAGA BELIEVERS?
>>60172610More Chinese and euro shills. They hate that their shit hole countries tied themselves directly to the US, and how in any crisis money flows away from them and into the US by default. The US can afford to do this for centuries at this point
>He's a SOXL baggie>He missed the SVIX bottomOh no no no no
>>60172330I'm worried about them but also I can't really do anything about it. They made terrible financial decisions and I'm retarded so it's taken all of my effort just to keep myself afloat. I can't and won't bail them out and that means I might have to witness a pretty brutal end to their lives
>me after i run through wall street screaming like a mentally ill homeless man that they're pausing the tariffssay thank you for this pump
>>60172623>meanwhile line goes up
>>60172623why would you care what that faggot beak nosed jew thinks. this is the same retard who want's to see white people dead in the street,
>>60172549At some point, AI unemployment will come.I'm not even asking coworkers for complex topology problems anymore, it's AI all the way.Same for consulting, I get better answers for generic law, strategy, medicine.It's just that it still depends on input quality, because it works in steps.Once it is stabilized enough to work long tasks, it will beat every office wagie there is.And this is absolutely happening, in programming, I can already give it 20 step long tasks, and it doesn't get it wrong.This is stuff that 80% of people could never be trained to do at lower error rate than AI already has.
>>60172623>>he thinks america is already in a recessionWe knew that was the case 4 years ago already.
>>60172623the insiders are keeping it for some reason, or people actually starkly refuse to believe in 103% tariffs on Jina
>>60172330My old man passed away a few years ago, but I am pretty worried about my mom. She’s planning on retiring this year, but me and my sister (both of us are employed) are planning on talking her out of due to well everything.
>>60171932>guys, does the S&P 500 rise 8.62% in 34 minutes during bull markets or bear markets?great depression drop had some of the best spike ups IIRC
We're gonna finish on green today
>>60172647>and it doesn't get it wrong.i can tell you don't have an actual job since ai constantly makes libraries up and shits out spaghetti code.
>>60172646>why would you care about what a wildly successful finance goblin thinks about financegee, anon, iunno...
>>60172627Im sitting on 1:20 cfd's and unless the market drops i will be paying it off for the next 10 years. Another "fake news" swing up and all my positions close.
>>60172676why
>>60172243>Well hidden
The market is a shitcoin now. Trillions can be gained or lost at the whim of meme twitter accounts posting fake news
>>60172610whats the 1%
>>60172701dont forget that it refuses to go fucking down
>>60172610Not me tho i love Trump. I get to the pump and dump the S&P 500 index? this is great.
>>60172675if you believe a jew on anything your NGMI
>>60172709People are still delusional thinking tariffs will be paused or retracted in the last minute.
Giga brain idea to play tariff chicken with the dude who grew up in the cultural revolution. It's not how to deal with Chinese, they don’t like losing face. And won’t…
>>60172702On second thought... the optimal outcome would be to unleash /mlp/ on them.
>>60172693cause i'm a retard that decided to play with borrowed money
>>60172702Big brain Chad CHUDS.
>>60172676balls of steel
>>60172542Wat, no, I don't have any account tied to my W11 install
>>60172725they need to stop being thatno point in both being delusional, and having high IV making options expensivemake up your mind faggots, is everything fine or are we collapsing
In the game of tariff chicken, I'm going to put my money on the guy who was able to keep his population in COVID lockdown for 3 years over the 80 year old lame duck administration who has run for President 3 times and never got > 50% of the vote.
>>60172737>Big brain Chad CHUDS.if by this you mean trump shit eaters then its 26% jidf1% of them just do it for free
Was it the whales pumping to trigger Stop Loses of retail investors who went short?
>>60172749That extended COVID lockdown completely killed China's economy. This trade war will finish off what remains of it. Good luck.
>>60172749Well yeah, their people will accept hardship. They're gonna play the long game. The goal is replacing the US as leader, and this chaos is perfect for that with every country looking for new trading partners.
NEW TARIFFS AGAINST CANADA
>>60172787>That extended COVID lockdown completely killed China's economy.Is this really what /pol/tards believe?
>>60172794Source?
ENOUGH
Please pump the market again I need to exit
>>60172749>country where the president was shot during campaign versus country where you will be executed in secret for criticising the governmentno shit>>60172794huh
>>60172809DO IT >>60172731
>>60172487Anyone?
>>60172811most bearish signal I've seen today, actually maybe It won't pump today
>>60172811this is the pump dumbassi need it to dump SPY back to $582 or at least $594
The market volatility has enough people pissed off that the next election is already secured Democrat victory which should price in a few more things down the line. Overall I'm bullish still on the long term horizon. A good friend of mine who is conservative / right-wing / Republican just sent me this.You start messing around with people’s investments and 401(k)s and you’re going to lose support — fast.
>>60172806>>60172816https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-04-07/us-hits-canada-lumber-with-34-duties-even-before-trump-tariffs
>>60172591gonna have to get on upgrading anon, when eol comes online later this year they'll push a forced unavoidable update to fuck your system short of never connecting to the net again>>60172743they've closed most of the loopholes and work arounds, fortunately rufus still works afaiklocal account users uniteI just wish linux wasn't so shit. Had to install something via CLI the otherday on my dual boot, in MINT! MINT. The most Windows of distros. How can these fucks have had decades and still can't nail something as simple as 'double click, install'?
>>60172829lmao even >>>/pol/ is that a way.
Even though I hate Trump and MIGAs I have to admit that holding the global economy hostage for a worldwide shakedown is a really entertaining move. There's no way this retarded shit is a net positive for us in the end but at least I got something out of this.
>>60172829>He doesn't know you can lookup their name via the ai watermark they put in the speech bubbles now.
>>60172796>I'm too dumb to look at basic charts from the past 5 years, better make call him a chud! Ha, that'll show him!
is there any hour for the israel meeting?
>>60172829The democrats (and establishment republicans) were driving the country off a financial cliff adding $2T to the deficit each year. This was the only choice.
>>60172879wow, so now we're adding $5T since 2 wasn't enough!
>>60172879>muh deficitLol. Just wait until you see the new tax cuts.
>>60172829Cool fake text conversation with your VOIP phone number, loser. Get a life.
>>60172879Trump was responsible for a very large part of the deficit
>>60172492so thats where the mstr strategy came from
In all honestly, how does anyone expect the market to go up?The european markets dipped ranging from 4-6%, if the tariffs on consumer good weren't already making people tighter on their spending then how the fuck is europe (and asia by the way) going to spend money on US products or import from the US in the volume that they once did?The market has already dipped 10% over 5 days
So what's the plan again
>>60172893Because of stock market pulling back from ATH?
>>60172879Incredibly retarded post but dont have the energy to address it
>>60172934I have no idea why it's going the fuck upit's literally people dreaming and shorters not shorting>>60172944what the fuck does the stock market have to do with the deficit you faggot, did you even look at the tax bill those retards wanted to pass?
>>60172940>pay us and also buy shit from usSeems like a shakedown.
Everything will go to shit but at least it's entertaining
>>60172940>Navarro is a proponent of the notion that trade deficits are bad in and of themselveshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Navarro#Trade_deficits
>BREAKING: BlackRock, $BLK, CEO Larry Fink has said: "We are probably in a recession right now"
>>60172948it's retarded because nobody on earth can explain coherently why this is the solution. not that it doesn't seem like it would work, just what the solution even is beyond giving the economy masculine aura
>>60172940>>60172971Based and 100% true.
>>60172508>>60172475>>60172310This
>>60172796Namecalling is a great way to refute facts.
>>60172879that only matters if people want it. for years people have been whining about all this stuff but only trump could actually bring on the correction
r8 Dad's analysis on the VIX stock
>>60172940>So what's the plan againI'm not saying I support the plan, but china/vietnam/etc devalue their currency
>>60172971Cool
I hate when the market finds a support level and doesn't want to beak through that. It has happened in the 3 last trading days
come on do something
>>60172525Sounds like the family line ends with you so…
>>60172508>railroad coasterperfectly level crab it is
>>60172940The plan is for countries to eliminate the trade deficit and pay reparations for taking advantage of the US. (Not endorsing the plan, but that's literally what they want).
i bought the dip and im still losing MAKE IT STOP
>>60173017>dotn expect it this timeI agree
>>60172971harvard should be sued for giving this fag a phd and forcing this entire mess on us
>>60172948Because you're pissing and shitting yourself over red numbers during a bull market that's lasted 15 years.
>>60172638Wonder how that would go in real life. That be pretty fucking funny.
>>60173034>advantageUS was/is getting cheap shit for the fiat fugazzi tho. Sometimes made by borderline slave labor.
>>60172971>He's a dem that switched partiesLMAO
>>60173019kek where did trump find these tards?
>>60172794>canada
that is an insanely tight consolidation on the SPYwe're gonna break out hardin what direction who fucking knows but that shit will either rocket or plummet
>>60173062ZOOM OUT ON THE FUCKING VIX CHART BUDDY. GO TO ALL TIME. MAX. ZOOM OUT BUDDY THIS IS BAD
>tfw took a shit so big my pants fit betterBetter than this crabbing nonsense anyhow
Markets are going full retard right now, they should be in freefall collapse, Trump just announced 100% tariffs on China. This is an excellent time for every retail investor to leave and liquidate all their positions. You will have no better time than this.
So right now, we're talking about around another trillion dollars lost.Have you said thank you?
>>60172610I think it’s time to go back tourist, between QAnonand the vaxx haven’t you embarrassed/isolated yourself enough? Imagine being so gullible as to believe all vatnik posts, lol. No wonder you are a genetic deadend.
>>60173068Well, I don't agree with it but he's made it clear that's what he wants. He said 0 tariffs isn't enough, there has to be a surplus or at worse break even.
>>60173092Nobody believes Trump so nobody is in full panic.
>>60173019if you want a deeper explanation theres 3 camps in the trump admin as far as i can tell and they all agree on tariffs (for different reasonsNavarro as already said simply hates trade deficits and wants to use tariffs as a weaponStephen Miran has some complicated plan to completely change global trade and do a "Mar-A-Lago Accord"his write up on the matter here: https://www.hudsonbaycapital.com/documents/FG/hudsonbay/research/638199_A_Users_Guide_to_Restructuring_the_Global_Trading_System.pdfand then a bunch of people who i wont name since they are a blob are china-hawks who are scared that america is becoming reliant on chinese manufacturing and wants america to make its own shit
>>60173071trump was a republican that switched democrat that then switched republican again so its not surprising that he digs up people like this to follow him around.
fifty three gigachad bulls holding four hundred bears down by the neck somehow
>>60173031does this one come back up?
so it turns out that the tariffs and retaliatory tariffs and the retaliatory retaliatory tariffs were already priced in last fridaythis dip is literally NOTHING wtfi was expecting another -5% kind of day todaywhats a nigga godda do
>Tom Lee has fallenOkay it's really over. It's really fucking over. The biggest bull on Wall St. shitting his pants in fear. Hell is coming.
>>60173072In this case I assume some think thank or advisement agency got him in because he was hard ball on trade and China then Trump liked what he had to say regarding >Trade deficit See in Trump's view America can make everything and that's it's a superpower it's the main reason I was confused about Panama and Canada but it makes so much sense when you remember he like Navvarro thinks America is a industrial economy
>>60173092People aren't taking Trump seriously, AGAIN
can SPY stay below $496 for FIVE FUCKING MINUTES
>>60173092Gee. Isn't there a risk for China responding with a complete and utter trade ban of their rare earth minerals to US companies? Elons battery factory in Shanghai can pretty kiss goodbye to their entire operations if that were to happen.
>>60173110Tbf he supported Killary in 08
>>60173121The market pumped on literal fake news and then found new support despite new tariffs. It makes no sense.
>>60173127I'm starting to think people are too retarded to live
What happens on Wednesday?
>>60173097Lmao, cope and seethe, you lost.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1NdGBldg3wLunch is over
>>60172971>your country is no longer economically competitive due to unaddressed domestic structural issues>you're too lazy to resolve those domestic structural issues>attempt to force other countries, who are increasingly successful and competitive, from selling to your citizens by tariffs>secure a paper victory in balance of trade because you tariff them>reduce your real wealth and product availability by half while creating domestic zombie companies with zero international competitiveness dependent on tariffs, producing goods with half the quality at twice the priceWhat a "win"!
>>60173126America with some actual competent effort could be an extremely prosperous autarky similar to Japan's local business structure. But I doubt they are capable or will be allowed to truly rebuild American industry.
>>60173141apple is probably sweating over the fact that all their factories are about to be nationalized to make huawei phones instead.
>>60173109>Guy wants a Mara a Lago accordHe can get that but make that clear to everyone and markets won't shit themselves also if they want to devalue the dollar then don't bitch if you lose muh sanction power
and now what?
>>60173165literally nothing, markets will just go in a perfectly straight line
>when traders jump from buildings, its time to buyThey are close to jumping negros
SAVA
>>60173141
>>60173165Tariffs go in effect
>>60172971>In a white paper co-authored with Wilbur Ross, Navarro stated, "when a country runs a trade deficit by importing more than it exports, this subtracts from growth."It's not even a meme or some weird negotiating tactic. They have actual 17th century mercantilists running the show. They are trying to accumulate fiat dollars like early modern kings were trying to stack gold ducats. Holy shit.
>>60173121Nothing is priced in.Everyone is living in their own fictional realities, sometimes penetrated by scam tweets.Take my word, this is going to end in "the world will capitulate to our 100% tariffs any moment now, just 2 more weeks!" lasting for the whole 4 years.
fucking 1pm bot pump faggotry
What the fuck just happened?
>>60173193The elders call this a "pennant"
Wheres new thread though?
Are we pumping?
>>60172829
wtf was that
>>60173187Your fucked because the machines needed to make these factories run are made in the countries under 20-25 to 104 percent Tariffs
kek, nice consolidation
>>60173121>he thinks any of this is priced-init's literally nothing but coping, just like with the initial friday crash. Why do you think the fake news pump was so intense? Investors were looking for anything to justify staying in the market
>>60173106yeah I'd presume nobody believes the tariffs as they've been planned will go to effect and if they will they will be short lived, deals will be negotiated
>BUYING
>back below 1% redcome the fuck on
yeah this is normal
>>60173092Maybe plenty of investors are sitting at the sidelines and waiting already.
>>60171967Are people still thinking this is some kind of 4D chess from Trump, rather than him just being utterly retarded as usual
jews pumping
>>60173197Why SAVA. Redpill me on this stock
I'm seeing very normal movements
>>60173196Hold, bros.There will be more bargains to have once the market dumps another 20-30%
>>60173191>muh sanction powerSanctions has never worked
this is so gay and retarded, perfectly organic movements
spy is literally a shitcoin
Absolute clown show
>>60173234I'm sitting on the sidelines waiting for a fake pump to dump on.
what in the name of fuck
>>60173237I don't understand how anyone could think that this man has played 4d chess ever. There hasn't been a SINGLE interview where Donald has proved that he had any idea what he was talking about.
Clown-ass kangaroo market
>>60173231>it's already coming back downit's nothing but rug-pull after rug-pull today, isn't it?
>>60173255Worked on Cuba. Worked on North Korea 20 years ago.
Does anybody have any insight on why volatility trading was disables this morning?I'm asking for my friend. Apparently the VIX was way up so they bought an etd that shorts it and they ahit it down until the news passed that would have ripped that ETF up $5 and my friend half 10,000 shares. So thats 50k he was jewed out of.
>>60173260you just missed it at 1pm precisely
>rug pull mondaywhat about tomorrow
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-7IHOXkiV8It's happening. Jews pumping was a smokescreen
>>60173258Kek it literally is$SPY to the moon saar
>>60173267We have to wait for the big firms to fully exit their long positions and switch to short positions before the market will be allowed to fall further. Same shit happened in 2008.The market should be considered fake until proven gay.
>>60173219bro we build earth penetrating drone missiles, in house industry and factory equipment would be trivial to make with actual support from states and feds, it would take sustained effort with no grifting allowed which is anathema to the American way of policy and business. We aren't lacking the resources or tech to reindustrialize just everything is too fake gay and grifted.
>>60173277I got greedy, wanted a bigger pump.
i want off the ride
mr buffett pls save me
>>60172610Hey bro I am still here. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fKJDAVvs_JA
>>60173299and I got greedy, wanted a bigger dump :/
>>60173234That's what happened in Europe and Asia - some dumped, more decided to wait and see. But since there were no bulls, the price tanked in a predictable trajectory.For WHATEVER reason, US clown house has significant number of bulls fighting with the bears. It's not market consensus - those investors are behaving like they are living in entirely different worlds.I'm honestly starting to consider the possibility that significant portion of US market actually TRUSTS Trump bullshit.
Nice scamwick
DUMP IT
how many people got liqudated today?
>>60173237We here in 4chan LOOVE chaotic bullshit, but normal people are in constant disbelief about these tariffs. They don't believe it can happen, and those who do believe it will happen have psy-opped themselves into thinking it's a good thing. Let's find out what happens this week!
We’re gonna crab for days aren’t we
>>60173267I refuse to let myself believe that I can see this bullshit beforehand, I'm too retarded. there's simply no scenario I can imagine where this is greentown USA
Why is he visiting?
>>60173248it's good to see you're still alive
>>60173345wait for Wednesday
>>60173335Not enough Bog. Dump it harder, US has no business closing this close to 0.
>>60173345The reality of the situation will hit them on Wednesday and Thursday when the tariffs actually go into effect. Til then, it's crabbin time.
woah buddy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnbneKvdBCM
>>60173345I think it'll be crabbing in a downwards motion until trump makes another public address
>>60173294there's going to be a big short sequel about this in five years isn't there
CLF
>>60173373new>>60173373new>>60173373newx
>>60173363>2 more days trust the plan patriQt
>>60173353It'll be over Iran
If we don't get another big pump, I'm gonna dump my remaining bags EOD.
>>60173357Lol I had to come back as a tourist in a board/thread I once was a regular in. I mean cmon I had to see what my old smigger friends are up to
>>60173474I don't browse here much either nowadays, but this tariff shitshow is too much fun.
>>60173353Israel is kind of a shithole to live in
>>60173529Ngl it might impact my real life (my employers funds are somewhat exposed to the market and it might actually mean we have to conserve cash / no pay raises) but it's so fucking fun. I'm enjoying it even if it genuinely is stressful
>>60172755I bet you're really fun at parties.
>short stocks>fake news pause announced>wiped out instantlyMurder suicide upon the entire world
>>60174031>gamble>lose>this is the casino's fault
>>60174062in normal conditions it wouldn't even move enough to do that
