vincent van gains edition>Educational sites:https://www.investopedia.com/https://www.khanacademy.org/economics-finance-domain>Charts/Screeners/Data:https://www.tradingview.comhttps://finviz.com/https://www.investing.com/indices/indices-futureshttps://finance.yahoo.com/>Live Streams:https://www.newslive.com/american/cnbc.htmlhttps://www.livestreamy.net/bloomberg/https://tvpass.org/channel/fox-business>Gambling:https://www.optionsprofitcalculator.comhttps://optionstrat.com/https://www.optionistics.com/quotes/option-prices>Calendars:https://www.marketwatch.com/economy-politics/calendarhttps://www.earningswhispers.com/calendarhttps://www.chabad.org/holidays/default_cdo/jewish/holidays.htmhttps://www.cmegroup.com/trading/interest-rates/countdown-to-fomc.html>Responsible Investing:https://www.bogleheads.org/wiki/Getting_startedhttps://www.sec.gov/search-filings>Misc smg:https://www.portfoliovisualizer.comhttps://finance.yahoo.com/trending-tickershttps://www.dividendchannel.com/drip-returnsprev>>60219313
China nuking the yield tonight
I am hit by paralysis because on the one hand I feel like the markets will still go lower but on the other hand I don't trust this admin
To the bonds guy: it was the nips
I keep typing baka instead of smg in the catalogue search
No! I wanted the destruction of anime.Will Japan no longer be under economic pressure or will there still be some?
DID THE MEDICINE WORK?
tread with ... caution!
The trade war is hotting up. It'll be interesting to see what tomorrow brings. Any predictions?
Fake and gay market, fake and gay green dildo. At least I put some of my capitulationbux into MSTR instead of going all in on shorts. Leveraged ETFs, never again.
>>60220306Good time to buy bonds
anyone who bought deep otm 0dte spy calls is up over %2000
Based japs saving america.I will buy one- no, TWO Nintendo switch2 as form of gratitude
>Europoors and Chinese looking at America dominate them once againFunny how all they needed to do was play ball for 5 days. Independence day was independence from those that wanted to use the US, and they got revealed>B-BUT HE KEKED!then explain why China is at a now 125% and expanding tariff while Europe's tariffs stayed? You got played by Trump of all people and you will suffer life the bitches that you are. Japan number 1
>>60220372>MSTR
>>60220365Zero chance of double tapping that low. Don't sell your dip buying early.
I had a too slow and too safe DCA strategy for this dip and only managed to get 1 buy order done during the down turn, next one was planned for friday. I feel sick to my stomach for missing out on the upside. I wonder how bears must feel right now who actually shorted the bottom.
this was literally>we were only pretending.jpgexcept they weren't pretending: reality forced them to retract.of course trumptards keep celebratingthe next move will be picreland the narrative will keep being>we are the victims>china bad>art of the deal
I don't understand Goldman's recession thing. The 104% China tariffs are still in effect TODAY.
>>60220363Bitter pill that Europe and China were working together, but a pill that was going to be taken anyway
just keep a tight stoploss
>>6022039125% up today, chud.
SoWhere is the manufacturing
did the madlad wait until europe was closed before doing the announcement?
>>60220347the orange jew fears the samurai
you better pump nikkei tomorrow burgerbros OR ELSE
>>60220371I predict another day at the circus
so let me get this righttrump creates a massive loss in stocks, and then japan cucks him and he pauses the tariffs, and now republicans are celebrating all-green because the stocks are...back to where they were a week ago? how is this a win? it feels like all its done is show how cucked the us economy is on bonds and that any country can pull and trump has to abide
That was the biggest green candle dick on the daily chart since 2001
>>60220405They are hoping Donald folds again
>>60220403Bears got giga fucked in a way only rivaled by the COVID pump
>>60220405How long before we start seeing the inflationary effects?
>>60220430art of the deal
If you are the Federal Reserve ChairmanHonorable Jerome Hayden PowellWhat the fuck do you even do in this situation?It's like trying to play poker with a psychotic naked meth addict with rabies and diarrhea
>>60220415art of the deal
>>60220443Cope
>>60220404>H-HE WAS FORCED TO>MY SOURCE IS THAT IT WAS REAL TO MEcope, you got bamboozled by a bamboozle. Europe and China did too
If you missed the slurp because you were too busy seething on /biz/ you are the retard.
>>60220443Just wait.
>>60220436It actually feels like he did that just to fuck with wall street bears while devastating main street.
Your president told you to buy and you didn't listen. Why?! Does /biz/ like missing the boat?
>>60220430>T-THIS PUMP WON'T CONTINUE!!cope, we are in the golden bull run now
>>60220459You can still sip
>>60220443depending on inflation either keep rates the same or raise themwhat's trump going to do? fire him? he'll be gone soon regardless and it would nuke the markets harder than this shitshow
>>60220404>don uses ieepa to prevent China selling US securities under the guise of "getting even"Christ, it's definitely possible. That's a nightmare scenario to even think of
>>60220443>It's like trying to play poker with a psychotic naked meth addict with rabies and diarrheaYou know the answer. The only winning move is not to play, so he gonna do exactly that.
what's actually the point of the tariffs? i don't think he'd actually want 10% tariffs on everyone, and an effective embargo on china. that's just ridiculous and would fuck shit up for us in a bad way.what was the original reason? the narrative was that there was some "unfair" trade with literally every country on earth, but that isn't true. i'm trying to understand what he's after. what is a good outcome? what does success look like to Trump?
>>60220399Never sell dip buying unless you're a retard and actually need the money short term
>>60220443art of the deal
>TRUMP: IT IS STILL ON THE TABLE>TRUMP: WILL HAVE TO WAIT TO SEE WHAT HAPPENS WITH CHINA ON TIKTOK DEAL
>>60220405They only see that Trump respond to the marketThats enough for them
>>60220430translation - >I missed out on the massive pump because I was locked in spamming /biz/ with ActBlue talking points
>>60220443Just wait* (*oh god if I do something my ass is done)
The stock market is a device for transferring money from the impatient to the patient
>>60220499He's literally a tsundereI finally understand Trump
>>60220443small rate drop to give him a win without wrecking your strategy
>>60220417yes -_- it's going to be all fucking weird at opening again tomorrow
im gonna start trading with only 100 bucks lets see how this goes
>>60220513>device for transferring money from the impatient to the patient*to the insider
>>60220493Manufacture, unfair deal, negotiations, deficit, china bad, free moneyDepends on the day, it rotate
>>60220493It was a political move to reveal those who are actually close to china. Only the EU was stupid enough to reveal themselves, and China was stupid enough to give Trump the excuse he wanted to have high by tariffs on them specifically
when the fuck are the pharma tariffs being announced, if ever?
>>60220430>and now republicans are celebrating all-green because the stocks are...back to where they were a week agoTrump has drawn a line in the sand. You are either subservient to the US empire, or you will be punished. He is waving a gun around in a crowded room, and shows he is crazy enough to fire.This was a show of force. Over the next 90 days, expect new agreements to whittle down the 10% tariffs to something reasonable, in exchange for cooperating with the economic isolation of China. Previously, countries were openly talking about dedollarization and the multi-polar world. This is an attempt to reverse that trend, and start bleeding China using remaining American leverage.Will it work? Or will this actually cause a flight into BRICS? Good question, but this is the play.
bearish
>retards here we're going crazy and screaming and ranting and raving>suddenly we're up in one of the biggest days in yearsThis place got invaded by reddit I guess
>POV: You are an American BVLL taking home your Chinese mail-order bride after bankrupting Xi
>>60220513Always has been
>>60220540Dollar hegemony relies on having a trade deficit and being able to print fake green paper. Trump's trying to have the cake and eat it
>>60220513Yeah but I'm starting to realize that being too patient is also kinda bad and when the VIX is at 40+ you better not take too long to get your money into the market.
>>60220535Only complete fucking retards are all in day trading, bozo. This shit is all a blip.
>>60220551WHERE IS THE FOOT ONE???I KNOW YOU HAVE ITGIVE IT TO ME
>>60220551You just paid double for her?
>>60220493It's just a tax that will bring in more money (from US consumers) to the federal government. Money, which Trump hints could be used to offset income tax. Tariffs are paid by the importer. But a lot of companies, e.g., in the EU, have been built on exports to US, so obviously its also in the EU's interest to protect those businesses by negotiating deals. US tariffs would not directly hurt EU consumers. Indirectly, probably.
>>60220430>back to where they were a week ago? how is this a win?It's a win for republican politicians because they knew about 90 day thing a week ago. There is a reason that shit leaked into press few days ago, and slurping power was so strong whole week.Republican party take whole country for a ride with insider trading on self-manufactured crisis. No refunds.
>>60220430It's all pure retardation and the circus isn't over yet. Some of the tariffs are still on and the nuclear tariffs are delayed but everyone knows he'll just cuck out now. And don't ask about the manufacturing jobs.
This turmoil is starting to make me think about regretting voting for trump.
I just want to find the bottom so I can finally buy in and forget about it
>>60220538yeah but we can't actually endure tariffs that high on china. we are reliant on them for manufacturing, and it would take a long time (read: decades) and a lot of suffering to make us not reliant on them. so what is the point?if the goal was to disconnect from chinese reliance, the we should have gotten the memo in 2020 but now it's 5 years later and we're in the same place.
>>60220540>He is waving a gun around in a crowded room, and shows he is crazy enough to fire.
>>60220540>This was a show of force. Over the next 90 days, expect new agreements to whittle down the 10% tariffs to something reasonable, in exchange for cooperating with the economic isolation of China. Previously, countries were openly talking about dedollarization and the multi-polar world. This is an attempt to reverse that trend, and start bleeding China using remaining American leverage.THIS. I expect /biz/ to be filled with "T-TRUMP KEKED ON X" cope from Europeans and Chinese shills as Trump reveals his real goals. All of this was mad dog strategy
>>60220427Japan is literally in DC as we speak. It would be interesting if a deal could be hammered out this evening but I doubt it will happen that fast
>>60220578kek
Today's posters have been pretty retarded even by /biz/ standards.
How much will YANG go up when China's markets open?I wish I could buy some...
Japan is considering giving every resident a stimulus check of 50000 yen.
Trump literally showed his hand to the world, just threaten the bond market and the banks in the middle of the nightChina owns the 2nd most debt, whose to say Xi doesn't turn on the faucet
>>60220634this bald old bitch hasn't lived my reality
>>60220581Retail investors also bought this dip in record numbers. You don't need insider information to know that it's probably a good time to start buying when we're in extreme fear and the VIX is spiking to 50+.
>intel rumour about tsmc partnership>stock pumps>NOO IT WAS FAKE NEWS>stock dumps>fast forward a few days>"yeah we are doing the tsmc deal">stock pumps againSpy did the same thing, I guess ill watch out for false rumours because theyre probably fucking true
>bought the dip>but didn't buy it hard enough so I'm almost back to break evenFeels batman
>>60220540We need a multipolar world. USA, EU, China, Russia, maybe Brazil/India in the southern hemisphere. A sole super power approach used to work but the world has moved beyond that. I was hoping trump would see it through and maybe he still will
Shit is gonna crab all week nowParty is over boys
>>60220645he's trying to bait the chinese into dumb their bonds
>>60220607China stocks are up to day. The rally is 100% because of Trump's weak hands.
>forgot to buy today>it pumps
>>60220653if you are one of the retail investors who bought apple during this dip you are a retard
>>60220589How many elections do you have to lose before you'll realize demoralization doesn't work anymore?
I'm just glad all of the libshit tourists got their lunch eaten. Absolutely shitted up this thread the past few weeks
>>60220668Fucking with the yield is not a good thing
>>60220594just take the DCA pill broits nearly impossible to time the market under the best circumstances, let alone this clown show
Charts, streams, screeners... beautiful. But while y’all paint lines and dream golden bull runs, Worldcoin’s sketching the foundation of the AI-proof internet. Proof of human = the real masterpiece. No World ID? You’re still in the sketch phase, fren.
>>60220607>Previously, countries were openly talking about dedollarization and the multi-polar world.he caused that
>>60220540if the world is forced to choose between the US and China, I think it will choose the US
>>60220443>powell has to watch trumps shitposting on truth social
>>60220677Blame the absolute utter FAGGOTS on wall street bets on plebbit. They shepherded plebbitors here en masse. I’m happy to see them get utterly raped today too. They’ll stay away from the markets and biz forever now
It's all insider trading bullshit bros
>>60220701he needs to do nothing it seems to be the only way of matching drumpfs genius. maybe make that face kamala made during the debate
Does anyone have that updated chart? It's a bit old, and I read China unloaded quite a bit in the recent years.
>>60220709i forget that wall street bets is super big until my friend was talking about it at work, were they on the short train too?
>>60220540>He is waving a gun around in a crowded room, and shows he is crazy enough to fire.following that analogy, everyone's gonna put some good distance between them and the retard with a gat. that's the inevitable outcome here.
>>60220677I'm doing just fine. I admit Trump got me to sell some stuff but my gains easily made up for my minor losses.
>>60220700Maybe last year, after this shitshow less people will opt for any of them.
>>60220642delusionalYINN has been pumping since yesterday and china futures are up
>>60220719I am curious
>>60220580>offset income tax with what is effectively a sales taxextremely regressive, will increase inequality & destroy social mobility even further
>>60220642they gave u literally 3 days to sell yangi did on monday switched to yinn alreadywhy are you too late
Is there a reason to trade anything else but spy? Other stocks basically mimic spy daily chart
>>60220677Anon I...Libshits support free trade. That's arguably the defining economic trait of liberalism. Pausing tariffs is what they want.I am begging you to open a textbook.
>>60220642Nigga even BABA is up. AMZN is up. AAPL is up. TSLA is up. All with huge China exposure. Do with the information as you see fit.
>>60220727It’s been completely taken over by casuals on plebbit. It’s 100% not what it was
>>60220677>b-b-but we owned the libs guysHoly MIGA cope.
>>60220753then he gets paid under the table and no one says or does anything
>>60220671>bought Leberkäs>got Leberkässhould've ordered Falscher Hase, silly yank.
>>60220700>They will choose the USTrump is too unstable and so is US democracy China won't pull shir like this
>WE HAVE POWERFUL WEAPONS
>>60220343Largest trading partner and world manufacturer tariffed 100%, bonds rising, leadership looks erratic, 90 days of uncertainty.I just took losses today the /bant/ crowd would of suicided over. Sold all shorts and moving into VOO. If it crashes great, if it pumps, good.t. Down 900k this month, 300k I won’t even see back if the market recovers. Just man up, move on, look for the next opportunity. We have 3 years 11 months of this. Something will click brother.
tfw holding onto TSM because I want my one dollar dividend wasn’t an awful decisionstill down 50% from being reckless with puts
>>60220701kek what a fucking stressful job, good luck based jpow
how long for fear/greed to rebalance? I will now simply sell when it's greedy and buy when it's fearful
>>60220803>gets folded by a japanese bank
>>60220755Bold to assume Trump cares about that
>>60220691I guess you’re right, I might wait a week and see though. I’m just worried about us going depression levels after I buy but it won’t matter decades down the line if I’m patient enough I suppose
Genuinely asking, what would happen if China decided to stop all exports into the US for, let's say, 2 weeks. What would happen?
4d chess
we have to be cool
>>60220827American businessmen wouldn't trust China also you would likely see shortages of key supplies
>>60220809Well that makes me feel better about my massive losses today. Down ~250k or so. I was beating the market handily until this market manipulation bullshit.
>>60220809damn bro you are real as hell and i am in awe
>>60220739not really an optionmaybe it will remind them that we're playing to win, but it's all just business
>>60220634I mean he killed himself because of his crazy equivalent of a President…
>>60220827They need to do it for more than 2 weeks to have a meaningful impact and stock to end.
>>60220819kekthank god for japbros and their tard wrangling skillsfree market is back on the menu, boyos
THANK YOU FOR PLAYING GG WELL PLAYED
>>60220828Yeah totally bro
>>60220763kek
>>60220809
The Monkeys Are Howling. The Birds Are Screaming.The Baboons Are Raping. The Hidden Tigers Lurk On The SavannahThe Hyenas Keep GangrapingLook At VVIX.
>>60220827probably actual deaths since they export more important shit like pharmaceutical precursors / equipment than people realize
>>60220852>market manipulationlmfaoooooooooooooooooo
>>60220306So what is Trump trade war record at now>0-4>0-5This retard hasn't done shit
My portfolio is now green, feels good manGod bless the USA
I bought SOXL 12.50 putsHow fucked am I
told you faggots about 550 EOD, stay poor bobos
>>60220895after all this chaos though, you can see how he bankrupts shit all the time and people just remember the panache
>>60220828>China is now isolatedHow?? Their relationship with other countries hasn't changed at all. Nothing has happened to them.
>>60220889They are getting hit with 125 percent plus that 25 and on top of parts for car at 25 next month and another 125 right now intrested how Americans will survive
>>60220853Thanks Anon, I needed that today. Still, we are all going to make it.
Just gonna shove everything in spxl for the next year and hope it works out
>>60220856Yeah is business and this little move means they wont invest in US as much again because they can go stupid anythime. Same shit as what happened with china.Or at least until don is gone. Most people will delay and reduce to some degree their operation on america. Just like how china was a trap for investors the sentiment will be the same for us right now.
>>60220828China stock are up, and now they get to route their products through other countries.
>>60220917You see America proving its a sperg with increasingly retarded leaders will magically now demand the world side with it over China
>>60220873Yea, I keep thinking of the Zen koan about the farmer who found a horse.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2cjVhUrmII&pp=0gcJCdgAo7VqN5tD
>>60220921China will just ship through other countries. And where they can't the end consumer will foot the bill (the alternative is DEATH!).
>>60220939Unironically easier being America's rival than its friend.
Oh right china can use orher countries as proxy now.I think thatt is why fears of recesion will diminish.
>>60220928>Yeah is business and this little move means they wont invest in US as much again because they can go stupid anythime.The goal will be to cripple China to the point that there is no alternative. It doesn't matter how stupid the American game is if there is no other game in town.
holy shit china is mooningYINN bros we're eating good tomorrow
trumpbots are out in full force atm
>>60220430The guy eliminated our trade deficit, brought back domestic manufacturing and punished disrespect in 4 days. Give the man his kudos.
>The colossus that bestrode the world! The rock against which the hordes of Asia dashed themselves in vain! He thought how ten minutes ago -- yes, only ten minutes -- there had still been equivocation in his heart as he wondered whether the news from the front would be of victory or defeat. Ah, it was more than a Eurasian army that had perished! Much had changed in him since that first day in the Ministry of Love, but the final, indispensable, healing change had never happened, until this moment.
>>60220306>Trump didn't know about the EU Tariffs Holy shit lol what a actual cuck
So what's next? Trump reversed his shit except with China which might reverse too and all of this was for nothing and then we pump 10% more and continue crabbing the whole year?
Im making a killing on calls but i dont think this poomp lasts. 8% intraday swings on spy after dipping into a bear market is a bad sign, not a good sign. Convince me im wrongAnd yes, i sold half of these at close
>>60220972Trump just said no new china tariffs and he wants to negotiate and meet with xi so makes sense
Some *important* clarification on Mexico and Canada tariffs from a White House official. Seems like Secretary Bessent perhaps misspoke:- Fentanyl tariffs on Canada and Mexico remain unchanged: USMCA trade is tariff-free, non-USMCA trade is tariffed at 25% (except for energy and potash at 10% tariffs)- The baseline 10% tariffs did not go into effect on Canada and Mexico on April 5, and neither country is getting the 10% baseline now
>>60220828Germany and Canada literally got closer to China due to this fiascoTrump destroyed America's reputation as a stable, reliable partner. China in contrast seems so much more reliableJust because your portfolio shows green today doesn't mean inflation is not coming or countries trust us all of a suddenBesides this is a 3 month pause. If he doesnt surrenders again in 3 months, the markets will tank againBut by then we will start feeling the effects of 100+% tariffs on China and inflation, so it may be even worse than it is nowMIGAtard idiots
>>60220534https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jEBnrzNuUSA
>>60220971>crippleWell good luck with that.
>>60220732The world is a crowded room, what you gonna go to some new landmass with no neighbors?
>>60220972WE ARE EATING FUCKING GOOD
Lets not forget that we lost some rate cuts for all this bullshit.
>>60221012Isn't almost all trade with Canada under the USMCA
>>60220828A key forgotten point:>China never increased tariffs to random countries, only against the US, whilst the US increased all tariffs>China has lower tariffs than the US now>multiple countries are retaliating and closing the door on their side against the US
>>60220306>Trump says he will bomb Iran Let's go oil bros
>>60220443I would cut rates
is it over did trump fix the economy?
>>60220945Real shit
>>60221017>China in contrast seems so much more reliableThis is still wrong, despite this fiasco
>>60221036Your getting them later this year kf you and the market behaves
>>60220972wtf
people that dont trade stocks are unironically like>wow this is the biggest pump since... 2008>this is a good thingdo people literally not understand volatility? they didnt understand tariffs either so i guess not
>>60220763He only paused the reciprocal tarrifs, he still got the 10% baseline which is what he really wanted
Interesting to see now how the Asian markets react, maybe other than China I think Europe finna explode (upwards)
>all it took was a japanese bank failing for the progress to be undoneRumao
>>60221062>This is still wrongNigger the regime doesn't change every 4 years in America it does and as it stands they don't do epic shit like mass Tariffs on everyone with schizophrenic policy
>>60221025That is the intent. Will it work? That's anybody's guess. The question is, how exactly does Trump plan to use the 10% tariffs as leverage for convincing other countries to help hurt China? What leverage do they have over China at all in the first place? Where is China weakest right now? Additionally, now China knows the plan. What do they do, knowing they are the main target of all of this? Was the Bond Market a legitimate weakpoint they can now target? Etc. The next 90 days are very crucial in the multi-polar world saga.
>67 (sixty seven) point SPY monthly tail wick
>>60221062Compared to the current administration?
>>60221090nobody cares
It will happen when the weather cools. That's when they'll make their move. The plans laid long ago, before the founding of America, and older still, will come to fruition. They're trying to force the gods' hands.Watch for these signs:>Three branches will become one>An island will drift away>A killing bolt will shine in the night but will not kill>A star will gorge itself on clay>Idols will speak and move about>The black flag will fly above the dome>The belly of the dragon will drip water>Two voices will call out in a silence that all will hear>A rock will stand on seven hills>The ravens will starve>The bear will leave her cage forever>The rod and the ring will strike
How much will Japan pay for this backstab?
>>60221092>Interesting to see now how the Asian markets reactnikkei futures are 10% up kek
Anyone In trump circle is going to e a billionaire before years end
>>60221098yeah honestly the fuck what this? never seen a government act like this, trade will continue but everyone lost trust in the USA
>>60221135As long as they hold the bonds they will get Scott free and maybe will buy more chiken or some dumb shit from us.
>>60220928we don't really have an option when china tries to big dog ustrump may be taking a more aggressive stance, but this was the general trend of US policyanyway, even with the tariffs we're a better business environment than China (more capital, more willing to extend credit with good terms, bigger consumer market, less risk averse, less likely to steal your IP, and a whole host of other reasons)
>>60221135Nothing because Jypan and Chyna nay dump bonds even more and this faggot will end up like Pol Pot
cut my loses and buy back in tomorrow or is there another a dip coming?
the fuck is this orange nigga playing at?https://x.com/WhiteHouse/status/1910072885789573505
>>60220306>destroys 10 trillion in stock market>EHHHHHH HEH HEH HEH HEH! Just joshin!!!
The entire move today occurred within a 5 minute windows, humans can't compete with that lol
>>60221135Probably not at all. They might even get concessions like sexual harrassment training in Okinawan military bases if they agree to making more noise about the Sea of Japan and generally being a headache to China.
>>60221050yes it is fixed now
>>60221135you don't have the cards anymore burgerboy
>>60221123i hate americans so much man
look at this fucking retard
>>60221144Everybody loves us. You want to be us. You came begging for us to drop the tariffs, groveling like the pathetic non-American you are.
>>60221162>Gets trillions for himself and his inner circle by pumping and dumping stock and crypto
>>60221144Yeah that's my opinion as long as Trump is president no one will trade with America since he's >unreliable >erratic >unstable That's the issue
>>60221090Volatility is down though.
>>60221154All that advantage went out the window if the country can tariff all good for 30% put of nowhere. This is what you need to understand. They are as bad as chinanright now.
fuck I love my countrywe literally just win over and over againUSA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA
Im so demotivated bros..... i completely botched today....i shouldnt be -13%
>>60220762buy big tech companies like nvidia and palantir to get more control over buying dips but still invest most of your money into QQQ or SPY
Holy absolute fuck. I cannot believe my port went from being down 60 percent to being up 400 percent on nothing but rddt calls. Betting on Donny being a retard always wins
>>60221189Short manufacturing companies, the tariffs aren't permanent so they won't invest.
>>60221208If you bought 10k of spy 540c you would have over a million in ur port right now
>>60221160>it's realseems to be full of botted responses. or are americans lower IQ than AI bots?
>>60221189And yet you're trading ideas on an American message board. Curious.
>>60221160PR moment they were shilling Navvarro OPED >>60221182You literally just gave everyone 10 percent Tariffs and threatened entire economies
>>60221208you'll get it next time big dawg
can anyone confirm this isn't what happened this time around too
>>60221160>flag of Yugoslaviaunironically what did they mean by this
>>60221189yeah. long term im banking on multiple contraction in US firms over the next couple years and just hanging onto solid gold bars till europe chills out at the low because of the potential bond market crash this year
>>60220490Yeah I'm not touching US markets the entire presidency, it's pure schizo casino hours where the robots who trade headlines win.
>>60221179>bill ACK! man
>>60221182yeah sure buddy>>60221189he single handedly managed to create a worldwide anti-american sentiment, and even leaders who were trump leaning are starting to distance themselves, he is pushing countries to seeks their own digital services solutions and armament to not be as dependent on USA
>>60220540>Subservient to the American empireThe EU did not change their "tariffs" at all, they did not bend the knee.
Well... I previously dug out of a $28k holeLet's see if I can do $42k
The tariff on china is gonna be like to 25% in like a weekWhat i dont get is trump has admitted he likes xiSo why is trump being such a fag
>>60221218Literally this as well why invest in this America >>60221228>AmericanThis site is owned by Japs I thank the Nippons for saving us and giving me free speech
>>60220481I WAS FUCKING WORKING. AT LEAST GIVE ME A FUCKING DAY.
>>60221202when volatility is volatile you know that everything is well and truly fucked
>>60221262>Literally this as well why invest in this AmericaWhy would you invest when if the tariffs actually go through you can't sell anything manufactured here anywhere else?
>>60221247Yes that's my Opinion Trump is retarded hes making everyone afraid of America
>>60220481he said multiple times that you retardRemember TSLA pump?
>>60221224Both. Twitter is filled to the brim with bots and idiots.>I was about to kill myself but I didn't! I won!Yeah I guess so.
>>60221229>You literally just gave everyone 10 percent Tariffs and threatened entire economiesStay salty, bitch
>>60221247>, he is pushing countries to seeks their own digital services solutions and armament to not be as dependent on USAAnd you love to see it, down with the great satan
>>60221261The tariffs went into effect last night at 104%.
>>60221261they should just kiss each other on national tv at this point
>>60221261Because he's seething at them >cucking him out of Tik tok now >Wants PR win >China hawks are hoping to eat good >China isn't bending the knee he blames them for the crash since they retaliated despite his orders not to
>>60221098>the regime doesn't change every 4 yearschina stagnating under xi is not the boon you're presenting it as
>>60221202>vix 30+>vol downlel
>>60220399this is why I dip buy dividend yielding stocks, regardless if we moon them bust I still got height yielding stocks for cheap I don't plan to sell
>>60221261some racist boomer schizo warhawk in DC genuinely believes in zero sum world
>>60221247>Intentionally manipulating interconnected markets>Show you can't be trusted>Less investment in USA markets>Less US investment allowed in foreign markets>Protections in place in foreign markets to inhibit further US manipulationThis is heading for depression whether you like it or not.
>do nothing>only down 5% for the entire year
>>60221290>stay salty bitchI see why the Iranians chant death to America your up there with the jews >>60221315I'm reffering to stability Trump is a retarded mong China generally won't do something like he suggested
>>60220306it went down so i soldit kept going down so i shortednow its going back upwhat did i do wrong?
>Treasury Secretary Bessent just revealed that President Trump laid a trap and China fell into it.>"This was driven by the president's strategy... You might even say that he goaded China into a bad position. They responded. They have shown themselves to the world to be the bad actors, and we are willing to cooperate with our allies and with our trading partners who did not retaliate.">"It wasn't a hard message. Don't retaliate. Things will turn out well.">China screwed up badly.So EVERYTHING they said about bringing jobs back, the trading deficit and all that was just a lie?They threatened all their trading partners to 'trick' china and china is the ones that "have shown themselves to the world to be the bad actors"?
>>60221315trump flinging shit onto the walls like a psycho is really distracting people from xi's mao larp strangling china over the past decade
>>60221340Everything I did as well
>>60221343>he goaded China into a bad position. They responded. They have shown themselves to the world to be the bad actors
>bond yields still at 4.3%
>>60221343>Bad actorsDidn't this retard impose Tariffs on everyone then proceeded to bitch out
>>60221315US is as unreliable as china for entirely sifferent reasons right now.That is the point.
>nvidia moved half a trillion up, because of trump tweetingtell me how the market represents reality in any way
Why is every thread crying about Trump?
>>60221098And its been changing every 4-8 years in america since its conception, and line has gone up. What retarded point were you trying to make?>>60221122Yes, despite the trump fiascos, businesses would still prefer to end up in an american court where there is an expectation of at least the facade of the rule of law, as opposed to a chink court, where everyone knows the chinese will fuck anyone to promote china, despite whatever “laws” exist in china
>>60221318>the markets fine actually its good actually we're winning and made in USA maga hats exports will market cap at 20 trilt. the retards
>>60221350Yeah ill be honest I don't get why were trying to fuck china over, they literally are killing themselves, they have so many societal crisises its insane
>>60221338Go move to Tehran then bitch
>>60221343>China has shown themselves to be bad actors>When it was Trump who started the whole tariff nonsense This is literally Jew logic. America has learned from their masters.
>>60221340short thursday buy monday gains are won not incentivised
>>60221366It's going to grow lol China will be dumping big tonight >>60221377>Ameirca has been changing every 4 to 8 yearsYes but not into retarded mongs and sometimes completely 180 policy look at Russia or Iran under Trump vs Obama/Biden it's completely different
>>60221343>They have shown themselves to the world to be the bad actorslol>we are willing to cooperate with our allies and with our trading partners who did not retaliatelmao
>>60221343I like how hes doing the I ONLY PRETENDES TO BE RETARDED ACT and but fucking caves because t bill dumps were making yields skyrocket
Non-Americans buying US stocks should be rounded up and shot as traitors.
>>60221366Stocks are up so it isnt that nuch of an issue.If shit dumps and bond rises then yeah we are gonna see Donald become an origami crane with so much folding.
>>60221343>"This was driven by the president's strategy... You might even say that he goaded China into a bad position. They responded. They have shown themselves to the world to be the bad actors, and we are willing to cooperate with our allies and with our trading partners who did not retaliate."This is the most delusional cope I've ever fucking seen.Literally "we were just pretending to be retarded".How the FUCK does China look like the bad faith actor to anyone with functioning braincells in this situation?Am I just going crazy? Am I living in some alternative reality where up is down? I can't believe all these troglodytes praising this.
>>60221375Because that's what those posters came here to do in the first placesky didn't fall for 3 days straight like they said it would, and now their chink masters are under firethis is probably the single worst year for globalist lefties in living memory
>>60221374The markets represent the memetic evaluation of a stock. One sentence from someone powerful can manipulate a stock up and down, by breaking or creating memetic valuation bubbles.Normally this is illegal, but Trump has noone to stop him as the court ruled him immune.
>>60221164is it just sentiment analysis?did some AI read trump's social media and determine it's going to pump?
>>60221340>>60221354Thanks for playing.
>>60221387>Iran out of nowherebrainwashed zogbot
I think what people don't realize is that the tariffs only apply to vessels that left port today, 4/9, or later. Meaning everything already in transit is not affected.It takes two months for a container ship to travel from China to the US. And it'll take warehouses another 2 months to burn through their current inventory. So we've got 4 months before we even start to notice the tariffs effect on the economy. There is no way in hell that the 125% rate is still going to be on China in 4 months. Even if China does literally nothing, Trump will bend the knee before then.
So is this the ultimate fun money glitch loophole? I just wait for trump to announce tarriffs, let it drop, buy, then he removes tarriff? And we get to do this for 4 years? How much money are we gonna make bros
>>60221369Art of the deal.
kek trannie redditors hows orange Wednesday?
>>60221375he cost me money and im peaved, don't need to get so political cunt
>>60221375>>60221419>Why is everyone pissed at blatant market manipulation and straight up retarded policy that would get someone fired or landed in jail.
>>60221366nothingburger
>>60221446Half of the posters are seething tourists with TDS
>>60221431What about shit like this happening last month
>>60221437>here's the one simple trick they don't want you to know!
My BABA's going to recover right? Right?
>>60221417It's for the shills and MIGA crowd >We owned China lol
>>60221465It was walked back in a day
>>60221437it only really works a few times before everybody stops taking you seriouslynext time he announces tariffs the markets won't drop nearly as much because everybody knows he will cuck out
>>60221431Explain to me then how when I order shit from a Chinese manufacturer it takes them 2 weeks to ship with FedEx
>>60221437You do realise the market will just bail from an environment where they are being manipulated into losing money.
Fuck I thought he would keep this retard game for longer.Only made 12k today. Should've bought more.
>>60221468The fuck are you talking about, it pumped 6% today, 3% more afterhours
>>60221478I believe Temu and shit airmails it
>>60221437Problem is that now the bots will pick up on this and it'll be too late by the time you find out
>>60221478Air travel?
>>60221428Sure, I had fun
>>60221476No you're wrong, it will drop, it just won't go back up, it'll slowly lower as people sell highs and exit the market, leading to less market cap but similar prices.
>>60221243see you in 3 years when the spx is 7500
>>60221465>>60221478US facing businesses in China usually ship via air, because customers don't want to wait 2 months for a container ship to slowly waddle its ass across the pacific. But air shipments make up a tiny minority of the goods we import from China.
>>60221437trump presidencies are full of money making opportunities
>>60221474>>60221474nvm I just realized that it says it's @ JFK
>>60221437People won't pull out then
>>60221493I'm down 50%...
>there are businesses that literally had to consider closing down forever or firing most of their staff because they saw their tariff bills This volatility is fucked
>>60221527lmao
>>60221511Not touching your schizo shit sorry. Neither will the world.
https://www.bbc.com/news/live/cp8vyy35g3mt?post=asset%3A8ff935bc-de09-4c59-b58d-e610c379b0c4#post>"Xi is a smart guy and we'll end up making a very good deal," Trump continues.>He says: "Xi is a man who knows exactly what has to be done, he loves his country".>"We will get a phone call at some point and then it's off to the races," Trump says.Hooooly shit this guy is cucking out so fucking hard
>>60221518>trump presidencies are full of money making opportunitiesIf you bought the dip from 610-560 you're still losing a lotretard bro
>>60220668>dump bonds>huge capital outflows that we have to service with more debt at a higher yield>also have to issue bonds with the "Trump might just default on the debt" risk premium Can't wait for the hyperinflation version of America.
>>60221343>The EU being so bureaucratically slow at everything played in their favorTopkek. Kinda even applied "The Art of Doing Nothing" bestseller playbook.
>>60221465Isnt this gonna happen again? I touggt he removed the duties limit again.
>>60221544>doesn't trade according to trump's signals>loses money>calls me a retardi made more money buying trump's shitcoin and shorting the market than ever before
>>60221173LoliKINGS win the final victory
>>60221538Xi will be an adult and give Trump the "win"I feel it in my veins
>>60221558Kek, exactly my thoughts when I saw US tariff the whole world. It's too much, too retarded, too fast, it will blow over
>>60221527how is that possible
>>60221518>trump presidencies are full of money making opportunitiesOnly if you selling fent.
>>60221558Hell yeahLiterally just like me irl
>>60221538What a cuck Xi won't kneel he's better off sending his own emissary
>>60221538So basically everything will just keep going up. Tariffs canceled.
are you well America?
>removes one hundred gorillion tariffs because China and Japan dumped some bondsKWAB
>>60221558Anon, EU already retaliated. Why is everyone forgetting that?
>>60221558>>60221586>>60221594It's still 10%.
>>60221343wait, I just realized>we are willing to cooperate with our allies and with our trading partners who did not retaliate."didn't the EU impose tariffs as retaliation? lmao
>>60221583>Xi will be an adult and give Trump the "win"How? China has pretty low tariffs on US goods. Should he force thinks to buy American products at gunpoint?
>>60221538>Xi used to call me on my cell phone>Late-night when he need my a deal>Call me on my cell phone>Late-night when he need my a deal
whats the point in making p/e sheets, calculating profit growth rates, listening to earnings calls, when twitter and truth social posts are what make the market crash or rally by trillions exclusively?this doesnt make any sense and cant last. i think we're in peak irrationality.
>>60221587leverage or options trades are a bitch
>>60221598Donald is gonna fold and xi will concede something minor so Donald can brag about.Trump doesnt want a repeat of today.The Bill he had planned wont save from a recession. He needs a deal sooner than later. He will paint it as a win but at the end....the Jobs are not coming back and the trade deficit will remain.
>>60221627they did not, only in response to earlier tariffs, not the blanket 20%
>>60221633they're going to ignore that because it's not convenient
>>60221569He was signaling the complete opposite until he got spooked by Bonds.
>>60221629He cucked from 30 and might drop those 10 to lower by just showing some shitty deal. Is over.
>I, a young person, desire change and chaos in some abstract way>I don't like Trump, and America's arrogant posturing is very annoying>I realise suddenly than lots of people feel the same way, we talk all day about how stupid everyone else is for sleepwalking into this, baffled>a horrible trap is sprung and Nothing Ever Happens, fundus are not safuI'm going to get "I'm Not Special" tattooed on my hand so when I go to press buy I rember. The orange retard is a lesson
>>60221045>At least he didn't start any new wars, right? Right?
>>60221648>whats the point in making p/e sheets, calculating profit growth rates, listening to earnings calls, when twitter and truth social posts are what make the market crash or rally by trillions exclusively?"the president's words (which are like a country wide earnings call) aren't really TRUE things that effect the market!"
>>60221633Yes lol Lutnick tried to side step the question in the oval office >President Trump seemed surprised when a reporter informed him that the European Union had announced tariff increases on U.S. goods today to be effective
>>60221629Not much a problem when everyone else have the same tariffs. Well no China get much more. This means euro products who have chinese competitors will sell more in the US. With 10% on everything it's just a taxe on americans consumers. They will still buy our wines and shit, they will still buy the switch 2 when it's out. If tariffs are unequals by a large margin then it's deloyal but now we just have to compete with american made products so we will be fine. Plus they will probably get lowered at some point. What matters is eurostocks are up.
>>60221629He showed everyone that he can fold, thats why the market is up
>bent the knee to negotiate >His budget bill is still being stonewalled by the far right caucus >Literally got fucking owned at midnight by Japan ruining the 10 year and 30 yearUnironically one of the worst days of his 2 terms for his ego ever
>>60221047>Institute sweeping tariffs on every country we trade with and penguins we don't.>Double down by cutting ratesI'm looking forward to hyperinflation America.
>>60221648Because US stock market reflects reality that exists only in imagination since 2008. This is why every crisis is so volatile, it's very much afraid to face reality and pop insane amount of bubbles, like housing and AI ones.It's VIBE market. You need to VIBE with it.
>>60221340Selling. Literally the only thing you did wrong. Everything else you just chalk up to the game.
>>60221708If Trump queues up a truth social post to send one minute before euro market open saying that as a result of retaliation the tariffs will remain, I will chuckle
>>60220430He has successfully shown that the world economy relies on whatever the fuck he says. Hail Trump.
Still ok to buy becaue Europe will open green and push it further up or are we expecting a selloff again?
>>60221744Its the other way around, he found out yesterday he doesnt have the leverage he expected
Whats the spy target for this month? 550?
>>60221703the monday rally was pumped by some random guy on twitter with Bloomberg in his account name not the presidenti just literally dont know how i can say anything about the profits of any company at any time anymore when everything is changing all the time and nothing makes sense.
>>60221744It's not much him but the fact that he's at the helm of the biggest economy of the world...and still got folded by japbros holding him by the ballbonds
fundamentals are out start thinking like a scumfuck rat bastard
>>60221377>in an american court where there is an expectation of at least the facade of the rule of lawYou mean in the country allowing the president and his buddies to pump and dump the stock market like a shitcoin?
>>60221744Good point.
It was incredible realising that Greer was just a complete empty suit just ChatGPTing his way through responses to senators about their trade policy with no clue what was happening at all
>>60221794rats jump off sinking ships
>>60221754If EU doesn't pump on open something is stupid wrong.
>>60221779>the monday rally was pumped by some random guy on twitter with Bloomberg in his account name not the presidentThe thing is - he was correct about 90 days delay. It was insider information being spewed, White House had to deny it in MINUTES to avoid early bull run.That thing about "Japan started to dump bonds, so Trump got scared" is retarded. This whole market movement this week was artificially created by Trump and his cronies to milk money from clueless market.It's pretty normal for US politicians to engage in insider trading, after all.
>>60221744It's also economic madman theory. The threat of tariffs cause people to make long term businesses decisions with that in mind, while not having to actually implement them wholesale.
>>60221859Uh everyone was shitting their pants seeing the bond yield skyrocketThat causes overnight bank runs and credit literally collapsing like a house of cards Our banking system is so fragile its not even funny
you don't actually think this is over, do you?
>>60221859How do you know that the trump cabinet didn't see what that guy said and went "that's a good play, let's go with it".
>>60221794it is a scumfuck rat bastard market after all. bulls, bears, crabs are all wrong. this is the time for rats.
I have no financial position in the market but I have some questions, especially after the wild ride of this past week. Is this entire stock market not just completely fake and vibes based? What's the point? Why not spend the money on real things like infrastructure and education. Is this whole system not going to unravel? Americans are getting dumber and poorer, you can't keep printing money, squeezing the workers and also having it all be based on a 100x long on the middle class.
>>60221859im just moving my money to europe and try to play for profitability rather than having to check what everybody had for breakfast that morning to know if we're gonna enter the bear market or pump 10%. i made good money putting 20% of my portfolio onto european military and am just gonna keep shifting away from this circus.
>>60221897I do, trump folded, insider market exposedIts crab time
>>60221897Everyone will settle with 10% and Xi and Trump will both make concessions
new thread?
>>60221925>trump foldedWrong
>>60221956no this is the last one. market's over.
>>60221966but .......... but my calls
>>60221950I dont think 10 would even remian.Every deal is gonna be some shitty concesion and go back to how it was and the gov paint it as a win.
>>60221903
I'm starting to think that someone in the WH actually admitted to fucking up to the tariff rates as well as the effect the measures would have on shit like bond rates, and are now trying to save face.
FUCK TRUMP AND FUCK YOU BULLS
>>60221978but manufacturing back to us? :(
why did we pump 10% today
>>60221950I doubt 10 will settle, market expect deals or it will tank again>>60221964>WrongSurely
>>60221915>Why not spend the money on real things like infrastructure and education.This is why chinks may have their own century ahead. They build high speed trains while in US Elon Musk builds a fucking Hyperloop, a retarded car tunnel, all while sucking government money to do it.
>>60222028Japan dumped a fat shit on Trump
>>60221989They are trying to save rates since Trump assumed he was completely finnically safe but instead >Markets tanked>Bond yields went up
>>60222018Uhh, just 36D chess bro. Trump never meant to bring back manufacturing you see.
we're all in the new smg haha you guys are still here
>>60222018Not happening since Trump wants his cake and to eat it as well
Reminder that the US market was extremely overvalued even before this fiasco. We'll be back.
>>60222028memes
>>60222054You made me look, asshole
>>60222065China has the option of dumping bonds
>>60222054-_-
>futures
>>60220809Jesus. You are a strong man. I kneel.
Do you think this market is more entertaining than all the craziness during covid?
>>60222102Covid wasn't a soap opera based around a single protagonist
>>60222084Youre scaring me, what about them?
>>60222102it felt like during covid you could actually pick winners from the chaos, like grabbing pharmaceuticals early. with this it's just timing swings
>>60222130>>60222130>>60222130
>>60222137FUCK CHU MEAN CUH
>>60220903I bought SOXL $9 putsam i more fucked than you
