Trade war edition>Educational sites:https://www.investopedia.com/https://www.khanacademy.org/economics-finance-domainhttps://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLiOs3-llXq5CGQPNHf_3-nYZ4d_w7OP52>Financial TV Streams:https://watchnewslive.tv/watch-cnbc-live-stream-free-24-7/http://www.livenewson.com/american/bloomberg-television-business.htmlhttps://watchnewslive.tv/watch-fox-business-network-fbn-free-24-7/>Charts:https://www.tradingview.comhttps://www.finscreener.comhttps://www.koyfin.com/https://www.portfoliovisualizer.com>Screeners:https://finviz.com/https://www.tradingview.com/screenerhttps://etfdb.com/>Optionshttps://www.optionsplaybook.com/options-introduction/https://www.optionsprofitcalculator.comhttps://optionstrat.com/https://www.optionistics.com/quotes/option-prices>Pre-Market and Live data:https://www.investing.com/indices/indices-futureshttps://finance.yahoo.com/>Calendarshttps://www.marketwatch.com/economy-politics/calendarhttps://www.earningswhispers.com/calendarhttps://www.cmegroup.com/trading/interest-rates/countdown-to-fomc.html>Boomer Investing 101:https://www.bogleheads.org/wiki/Getting_started>Misc:https://finance.yahoo.com/trending-tickershttps://market24hclock.com/https://wallmine.com/https://fintel.io/https://www.dividendchannel.com/drip-returns-calculatorhttps://brokerchooser.com/Previous thread: >>60243803
I'm buying Greek bonds and no one can stop me.
reminder:
migaxisters, we are so back.
>>60245357Don't deflationary spirals collapse economies
>>60245357how many times are you gonna post this?
>>60245342>non-anime op piccringe
Have you said thank you once in our conversation?-Li QiangYou have no cards Donald.-Xi Jin Ping
The lack of forethought by this administration is both baffling and expected. Putting tariffs on China is all well and good, but what's the backup plan? The answer is there isn't one. Instead of shoring up with Europe and Japan they put tariffs on them too. Insane.
I Have No Money And I Must Sell
>>60245374I don't get why he opened the retard session by attacking Canada and Mexico. Every talking head for years said we were going to use Mexico as a replacement for china to ensure wartime production, and Canada as a safe supplier of resources. Now those relationships are in tatters and the PM of Canada is talking about an FTA with china.
>dollar going down while yields going upbros it's over we are third world
>>60245368>NOOOOOOO AURA-CHAN PLEASE DONT TAKE COMPETE CONTROL OF MY BODY AND USE MY PENIS HOWEVER YOU WISH
green id
Retards think Macron is a socialist lmfao.
This is going to be a bullrun, because the most important indicator - treasures, are in a green. So keep seething shitlibs.Never bet against America! MAGA!
Who's going to win today? The bvlls or the crabs?
On a scale to 1 to 10, how good are things right now?
>>60245374Almost like he got to the presidential seat on corruption alone If you think about it, there are only two major countries that currently come out of his presidency with a net positive, the one that paid off his debts in the 80s and the one that is blackmailing him with Epstein tier shit.
>>60245397the clowns
yuropoors think their literal who politicians in charge of countries smaller than our provinces matter, in a /biz/ thread, nevertheless. curious!
Time traveler here, just wanted to say this to you guys:AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAGOOD FUCKING LUCK LMAOOOOOOOO
BTC is going to 75k tonight. Screencap this
>EU Commission President Ursula von der Leyen told the FT that if the trade talks fail over the next 90 days, one possible retaliatory measure could be a tax on ad revenue on companies like $META and $GOOGLI don't think she has this kind of authority but the EU commission use any excuse to keep expanding their powers lol.
1 hour and 21 minutes left
>>60245421How is taxing your data harvesting corpos an "expansion of power"? Also she doesn't, we have to vote on it. Same as when we taxed apple 20% of their yearly revenue until they switched to USB-C.
Only crabs win
Genuine question, how do you guys stay sane/cope during all of this shitshow? Stock market is a circus, news cycle is a clown show and most people are ignorant on what the fuck is going on right now. I'm legitimately tired from all of it and kind of scared that no one will stop the orange retard when it matters the most.
the entirety of biz is shitting on the US. this is great
>>60245421As much as i want this to happen its obvious that europe will cuck
>>60245432They really should thanks us for beating their corporats into being at least decent enough sellers who doesn't take advantage of every consoomer and their mothers (they still aren't and the beating will continue)
>>60245438I'm European.
>>60245438I was handling it fine to begin with but I've been getting more pissed off as time goes by.
>>60245438I'm so tired
>>60245407>provinceslarper
>>60245357he's caused rates to spike, though. his plan, if this really was what he wanted, has failed.
>>60245441Well /biz/ wouldn't care if the orange ape didnt broke the global market in the most retarded way. No touching the money maker, simple as.
>>60245438What's the worse that can happen? Another world war?
>>60245451I am as well, but this shit will affect us sooner or later as well, especially if Trump goes full retard and totally destroys the US economy. And the longer this shitshow goes on the more likely it seems.
>>60245357I hope this wasn't the real reason, because it literally didn't work, in fact it did the exact opposite of the intent. Would be a kwab tier fail.
>>60245470it's just fun to watch. yuros are literaly breaking out in song and dance
>>60245438>>60245473worst* but this is also not the first financial shit show, it's just a different one
>>60245387Yes, but consider that liberals are also suffering and this is a massive win overall
>>60245374>implying rest of the world would stand by USA in WW3chang cheapies > USA
>>60245266fr fr no cap>teslawtf is going on?
>>60245448Always does, also we're slow and bureaucratic as fuck but somehow it make us better. Trully an art.
>>60245491Slow and steady wins the race.
>>60245357This is going to age like that red deer meme
Is it safe to buy on the assumption that we've passed "peak retard" and Trump is now listening to advisors?
>>60245480Well yeah, I mean almost the whole world is, because that's excepted after threatening and insulting the whole world.
Just admit you're too small brained to understand the art of the deal.
>>60245407>provinces
>>60245438I dont stay sane, I stare at a graph a few hours a day and lose money, I am sticking through because I need experience, someday something will click
>>60245374We gotta teach those woke europeons a lesson or two
isn’t WMT pretty high considering the china tariffs? like half their Mainstays/Walmart Brand shite comes from China. Even their goddamn shipping boxes are made in china.T. walmart part-time worker
>>60245438It's this nonsense that got me to jump into this party with 200$. It's my whore money so I won't cry in the casino
OOOOOO STOCKS ARE GREEN WTFFF
>>60245432>we have to vote on it. Yes and netherlands or someone else will oppose to it because this is completely different compared to a usb port or another app store.EU members won't agree unless the EU commission force them to do it and that's what I'm afraid of.
Why doesnt trump just drop the tariff nonsense? Its like noone wins, so stupid if you ask me
>>60245421very american post be better
>>60245441Wouldn't you? All Trump had to do was stick to throwing illegals over the big beautiful new border wall and not touch anything else and we'd be massively green. Instead he's putting his hands into everything and fucking it up.
>>60245518>someday something will clickyeah
China raises US traiffs from 84% to 125% | DW Newshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKnNCQTwR50
>>60245421Well, she can invoke the ACI to do it, that is in the power of the EU commission. But whether that goes through is up to the Council of the EU (not the Council of Europe, of course...) by qualified majority. But I imagine she has already, or is in the process of, securing the necessary member state votes.
TELL ME I'M NOT TOO LATE TO BUY EU DEFENSE ETFS AND CHINK TECH
>>60245524
>>60245541This>>60245541
>>60245438I'm surprised no one has assassinated the orange nigger.Luigi blew away a healthcare ceo over less overt skullfucking
>>60245524Nah, most of the produce sell is domestic. And they were already investing in US manufacturing.
>>60245357Everybody's got their pet schizo theory
>>60245387either they will save the dollar through jewish magic or we get a world war, I literally cannot lose
>>60245542Kek
House and Senate GOP bills are moving through the chambers to wrestle back control of tariffs from the Executive to Congress. Here's hoping.
>>60245554>trump is le good>muh white males are the real victimsyawn
>>60245553the profit margins on produce are so razor-thin, they don’t even get the pitiful employee discount applied unless it’s the christmas season, so I sincerely doubt they can profit off of groceries alone
>>60245413Yes BUTIs this the wrong or the right worldline?
>>60245567Didn't the House bill that passed remove Congress's ability to take control of tariffs? Not that it'll pass the Senate but Johnson is still a believer.
>>60245567Tard wranglers are back? This would save the markets. First term orange dumbass was basically sleepy joe compared to want we're witnessing right now
>>60245542
>>60245421Just filter out Google Adsense at ISP level for shit and giggles
>>60245532We just need majority>NetherlandsWhat? If anyone votes against that it'll be Hungary and they'll be chaperoned to the bathroom before the vote happens.
>>60245266>This total domination by the left is why europe has gone off the deep end during the last decade, destroying its demographics and lagging far behind america in prosperity. Very bearish.and look at the european stock markets, as a whole or even individual countriesNot doing so great! Many such cases, folks, many such casesturns out socialism ain't so great for business. Who knew, folks? Who knew...It's mostly the reason why you have eurofags posting about timing the american stock market, and not the other way around.
>>60245584kino
>>60245554Americans calling themselves the victim as they plundered the entire world lol
>>60245567Never gonna happen, too many executive branch loyalists whi are just waiting for 2028
Reminder that stinky neets never leave their basements and the only way they feel excitement is by pretending the economy is going to crash lol. Meanwhile the stock markets are green today again...
>>60245545Key part here by the way is the qualified majority; it means even if Hungary or some other member (let's be real though, it's Hungary) tries to sabotage the EU into inaction by veto -- that won't work.>>60245572I'm not choosy :^)
>>60245543>China raises US traiffs from 84% to 125% | DW Newswatching the inevitable blow up as chinkland loses the trade war will be deliciousuntil then, ESCALATE!!! Yes haha, yes! Escalate more bitches
>>60245581iirc, it doesn't remove it entirely, but it suspends it until september, which is still a nightmarish scenario.
>>60245597Gb2/reddit/
>How it feels to be a European holding cash
>>60245597Those fucking Vietnamese and their trade deficit taking away American jobs.Ford Raptors on the streets of Hanoi when?
>>60245464The spike is in the plan, the more people see it's more convenient to buy tbills than invest in stocks.
>>60245608>theyre greenTheyre the same price they were yesterday afterr a 7% drop
>>60245597The fact that their elites convinced them it was Ping Ping, Häns and Rajeesh the one robbing them blind is trully something to witness. Literally the richest country in the world, but yeah Vietnam, Cambodia and Madagascar are the problem.
>>60245368next one
>>60245628>how it feels to be an Australian on the ASX
>>60245567>House and Senate GOP bills are moving through the chambers to wrestle back control of tariffs from the Executive to Congress. Here's hoping.the republicans have decided to wait it out, since the 90 day pauseIf shit still goes south after that, they might come backotherwise, the bill is dead on arrival
>>60245568>>60245597The screencap says that all of MAGA is organized useful idiotation of the Right so that they demonize the Left instead of the Elite. It's not pro Trump. It describes him as a patsy.
>>60245597>Americans calling themselves the victim as they plundered the entire world lolIt ain't easy being king. Now pay up faggot.
>>60245597The Congolese child mining lithium with his 8 year old scab hands is ROBBING Mutt McDonaldson from Ohio of his $70/h mining job, libtard.
>>60245657No YOU pay up. You heard me. It's 1.20 dollars per euro.
>>60245657They will. Everyone will.
>>60245608>stock markets are green today again>todaynigger f5! things change by the minute. we could go -10% or +10% today.
Why is it going up?
>>60245487>he thinks chang will be the one working in factories for $2 per day if he wins the war
>>60245595>the left has dominated europeThe last two decades have been dominated by neoliberal moderates. Just because they aren't overtly racist doesn't mean they are leftwing. They are just status quo beneficiaries like your dems, with a little bit more fear of discontent proles.
NEW THREAD>>>/bant/22528295>>>/bant/22528295>>>/bant/22528295>>>/bant/22528295
>>60245664>No YOU pay up. You heard me. It's 1.20 dollars per euro.oh don't worry about that my friendwe want a weaker dollar so we can sell you shitYou will buy the american cars, and the american cancer chicken and you will enjoy itVee are eating ze bugs? No! Vee are buyink ze cars.
>Why is it going up?>Why is it going down?>Why is it going up?>Why is it going down?>Why is it going up?>Why is it going down?
>>60245438>no one will stop the orange retard when it matters the mostAnon, that time has already come and gone. The point of no return has long since passed us.
>>60245678lmao what?also, please don't attract more butthurt eurofags into the comfy thread. Misery loves company, so the bears need to stay here
>>60245673Political concepts are lost on them, can't blame them, they got manipulated in thinking Democrats are the left and Bernie is the far-left antifa while Trump is just your average right-wing. It's like explaining what "liberal" really means, they just don't get it.
>>60245683
https://www.cnbc.com/quotes/US30Y>bond yields go up>futures go down>bond yields go down>futures go up
>>60245680>You will buy the american cars, and the american cancer chicken and you will enjoy itFuck no I won't :^)
>>60245670
Is /bant/ /smg/ for the Chuds and /biz/ /smg/ for Chads?
>random 1% pump>No news
>>60245708Heh
Everyone should be watching the 10Y, it's at 4.44% now, but at least the market isn't tanking 2-3% (yet) - I'm surprised things are so calm premarket honestly. Means Trump will open his mouth and tank things soon
>>60245709/bant/ /smg/ is the coping American safe space.
>>60245709No this is busier but more newfags, other is quieter but more oldfags
>>60245673And yet the socialism is still NO BUENO for european stock marketsWeird! almost as if capitalist policies and sensible energy policy is a bit better than... whatever the fuck they're doing over thereAhem, germany, ahem!
>>60245438I’m just gonna keep putting money into SPY. It will either go back up eventually or it won’t, in which I case I have larger problems than economics.
>>60245594Ireland takes the cake but Netherlands also use their tax policies to help big tech. Those two won't approve any drastic policy change and will pressure other countries to do the same.There's no way this "ad tax" gets off the ground let alone approved in 90 days.
Do I see a pump? A small one? Are we reaching the levels of a few hours ago?
>>60245697>Fuck no I won't :^)okay, I don't blame youhat off for a second, american cars suck, and have for a long timeand the shitcken really should be banned, in all countries including america
>>60245689leftist means unions and working manliberal means trannies and immigrationneoliberal means globohomo corporate dicksuckeryour kind is not welcome on 4chan, simple as
>>60245741Just fucking buy the open, we're going to rally over Passover like we do every year.
New theory, the admin is trying to make this meme real
>>60245754alrite
>>60245709It’s trumpie americans plus that german and pole
you should have listened
I just got off of my shift why are premarkets in the green
THIS JEW ON BLOOMBERG IS COPING SO FUCKING HARD LMAO
>>60245754Explain the differences between Classical Liberalism and Contemporary Neo-Liberalism RIGHT NOW, or be forever branded an uneducated fag.
Buy at opening, freak out for one hour about your choice stock falling, be happy when it rises in value for three hours and sell, freak out again when it rises after you sold but be extremely happy when it actually started going way down later on in the day. There's your free tip, no need to thank me because I have no skin in the game today!
>>60245754If you support your constitution, then you're a liberal. Because all western states are founded on liberal principles, even if they hadn't outlawed slavery yet. Your Founding fathers were liberals. Trump is just some nouveau riche monkey who has main character syndrome, and also just a liberal. But more entertaining than the common ones
>>60245780clown market pump at open and go red until it's orange panic time just before it hit the breaker and he go on a long ramble to make it crab until closing
>>60245673>>60245689The social democrats have won in Europe plenty of times (Olaf Scholz in Germany, Hollande in France) and it's not like anything special happened and you faggots always complain anyway
>>60245711>random
>>60245786but what if i buy at the bottom and am now fucked? how many days do i wait before i neck myself
>>60245785>Classical Liberalism and Contemporary Neo-Liberalismyou know he wasn't referring to classical liberalism when he said "liberal"
>>60245789watch the 30Y Treasury Bessent shit himself on Wednesday when it hit 5% and someone's driving it up right nowhttps://www.cnbc.com/quotes/US30Y
>>60245780China folded and said the 125% tariffs are their cap.
AHEM!Socialism is superior to Capitalism.Thank you for your attention.
>>60245795>it's not like anything special happenedThat's the point, retard. Slow steady boring growth. Not retarded mango that chimpout.
>>60245788don't talk to me queer>>60245785classic liberal, neoliberal, liberal, all the same. faggots who should be purged from society
>>60245815no shit, why do you think i keep voting for democratic socialist politicians
>>60245815>Socialism is superior to Capitalism.>Thank you for your attention.the european stock market returns of the last 20 years beg to differNot lookin good, folks! Not lookin good.
>>60245740Ireland the Netherlands cannot convince another seven or eight countries to veto, everyone lowkey hates that Ireland swings its GDP per capita cock around when it’s just a Trojan horse for American companies evading EU taxes
>>60245807I don't know, but never neck yourself. I recommend instead buying some eyeliner and jet black hair dye, live 2 months of emo boy VERY SAD lifestyle as a larp and try again later. Shit, who knows, maybe some girl likes that and even gives you some pussy for your troubles.
>>60245815I've always liked the idea of market socialism (with a Strasserist government)
>>60245815looks like we have a Trump supporter in the wild guys
>>60245827Sir your country is in extreme amounts of debt and your yield is mooning
>>60245775> I spend my days trying to rage bait bottomfeedersFucking tourists
>>60245823Real leftists don't give a fuck about gay peopleI'm in IBEW, My brother is my brother is my brother, gay or not. Stop being a bitch. Three generations deep.>>60245827The country isn't a business that's measured by how much money it makes. It is measured by how happy the people are.
>>60245817but you said the left has never won?or soc dem is not left enough for you?
ok so where's the overnight euphoria coming from?
>>60245342>There is no trade war in U.S.A.>Consume and be happy!
>>60245413Go back to 1815 faggot.
>>60245842Cry more yuropoorMAGAUkraine LOST btw
>>60245795And they're liberals all the same, just with red aesthetics like yours.
i always liked the idea of living in a cave like a goblin and during night i'd come out and raid the above-dwellers as lil' goblin thief to sustain myself and pick some shiny trinkets to carry home and polish as i sit besides the fire with a mushroom tea after a long night of being absolutely feral.
>>60245851just one last hit of copioum bro then we'll quit, I swear
BUY REDDIT BUY BUY REDDIT BUY
>>60245844i am not leftist nor right wing, economic policies are situational the context is more important than the policy itself. however, i hate trannies. if a communist candidate ran an election promising to send all LGBTQNVDA to mental asylums, i would gladly vote for him. same if he is fascist.thank you.
>>60245842>Sir your country is in extreme amounts of debt and your yield is mooningand something tells me we will recover from this too, and better than the eurofags... just as we have done over the last 20 yearsand they'll find another way to slowly grow, or not grow at all... just as they have done for the last 20 years hahaha
>smg is now migatards vs libshitsGo to /pol/ for that shit, I am here just for funny stock market memes and happenings.
Random question, but where‘s ivanka? She was super involved in the last administration?
>>60245885I'm glad that the left wing retards and migatards are outing themselves so I can filter their posts, and don't take financial advice from morons.
>>60245827Doesn’t spain outperform S&P for a few years now and that’s all divvies to
>>60245850Naw I didn't, I'm >>60245689But yeah I would actually like to see what a more leftist government would do. In my country it would be Mélenchon but he's a crazy retard so it's a no, I will go for center-left or center-right. Ideally someone like Ruffin if he could be more charismatic. Like Bernie in US, would like how it does. They keep telling you "aaaaaa noooo it's gonna be an economic disaster" but look at what electing the "party of money and market" did.Might be worth a try. I'm pretty sure the market can be bullish while trillionaires get to pay a little more instead of paying less tax than the average plumber.
>>60245824Trump's the biggest fucking socialist to run America in history, retard.
>>60245885but where will I go for my eurofag seethe?The impotent smug condescension is like sweet tea. A fine brewIt's like there's a whole continent of democrats and they all hate america. but I repeat myself
>>60245887She said she hates politics and wants to stay far away from the White House
>We're about to see the Euro become the world's reserve currencyHoly fuck the ECB isn't ready for this kind of responsibility. It doesn't even have proper powers over debt.
>>60245885funny stock market memes are fun
>>60245878Truly, you people are just as bad as those who worship abrahamic sand religions, just because, without the ability to actually THINK about anythingI cannot wait until you people are permanently removed from the discourse>>60245885I apologize. I let someone misrepresenting what it means to be in a union get to my head.>>60245898For billionaires, not unionmen. Look at how he is treating the brothers and sisters in AFGE currently. Bullish for oligarchy, bearish for everyone else.
>>60245815based
>>60245892>Doesn’t spain outperform S&P for a few years now and that’s all divvies toDon't think so
Tesla and Apple are doing some HORRENDOUS crabbing.
>>60245357However, "the stock market" dumped by -20% and yields rose.
>>60245905The european manufacturing business relies on the exact opposite, so it's all getting fucked rn
Maybe in a few years you will be allowed to reapply as colony status mutt.With the amount of bowing down to authirity you do daily im honestly confused why you guys left anyways. Its like you want to be governed by kings... >>60245342
>>60245887according to books on the first trump administration she and jared kushner are liberal and similar to democrats, they and neocons lost the power struggle in the white house
>>60245892>Doesn’t spain outperform S&P for a few years now and that’s all divvies tobut I guess if you look at one very short time span, then yes actuallyBut uh... yeah bro that shit has grown by +100% over the course of a decade underperforms even the russell 2000kinda sad to be desu
goldbros we can't stop winning
Bloomberg radio just blasted You’re Welcome from Moana so that’s gonna stick in my head if we circuit breaker today
>>60245937>>60245892oh, forgot pic
redsticking in premarket all around, it's fucked
so basically, China won’t need to raise tariffs as any further increase is performative, because American shit is more than double the usual price, so USA is effectively off the market.China won. If USA folds and drops China tariffs, China wins. If China makes trade deals with countries outside the USA, China wins. The only question is whether to load up on YINN before or after market open
Thinking I might go full bear and just cheer for Trump as he burns down the entire economy.
>>60245946My broker (female) just left me a message, told me to call its an emergency...
>>60245955Trump will float delisting all Chinese companies from NYSE and your shit will crash
>>60245897France once implemented a 75% tax rate for the top bracket and guess what? I got even less money lmaohttps://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/dec/31/france-drops-75percent-supertax
>>60245955>so basically, China won’t need to raise tariffs as any further increase is performativechina will continue to raise tariffs to save face
>>60245966Your broker sounds cute, should call her and hear what she has to tell you.
>>60245946Another Mumu day for gold it is
>>60245968This.
>>60245968ok so YINN with a protective long-dated put, then.
>>60245969Well of course it wouldn't work as it is. There's massive changes to do in the whole UE before we could do that, and make them pay what they should, really. Also going more after tax dodging.
>>60245976China has just said per bloomberg that they don't need to fuck with the numbers anymore because american shit isn't selling at this point>>60245981damn straight
>>60245979"you're broke nigga"
>>60245916>For billionairesWhen the stock market drops 20%, how exactly does that help the billionaires?
>>60245438>>60245453>>60245552>>60245684Redditors
>>60245648WTF did i just watch?
>>60245976they might go further and do shit like ''we wont export x critical mineral/product to you now''
HOW DO I INVEST IN TARIFFS THEY'RE GOING TO THE MOON
How the fuck is the 10Y yield higher than before the pause
>>60245990>picturewtf man? what do you mean...
>>60245997The people who are going to get fucked the most are the retail investors who have been buying in lately at record levels. Billionaires tend to make money regardless of whether the market goes up or down.
>>60245438Unironically, go outside.
Xi and at least Spain are now working on an alliance to fight the trade warhttps://www.politico.eu/article/spain-pedro-sanchez-champions-china-key-eu-partner-amid-donald-trump-trade-war/Australia has already rejected any deal but it's noticeable that China has redirected natural gas imports to Oz and the broader region is also looking at Australia.>>60245866>homeowner>keeps actives and has hobbies>interior decorator and keeps a stable home life>absolute feral beast in the bed leaving women unable to moveHumanbros...>>60245887>>60245904Obama's husband said a similar thing recently. I think it's a signal that not even nepos want anything to do with running things anymore which is a disaster coming down the track in 10-20 years.
>>60245887https://www.businessinsider.com/ivanka-trump-visibly-upset-as-she-tried-to-get-father-to-stop-capitol-riot-2022-12i think the capital riot was the breaking point
>>60245997Look who bought the dump with liquid then sold to profit (real) gains instead of potentialsexample: drumpf's buddy made 2 billion yesterday off doing exactly this. 2 billion in cash, not potentials via stock holdings which can be leveraged in loans
>>60246009oops haha my bad sorry
>>60245653>muh Elites>nooooo don't look in to who disproportionately comprises the Elites
>>60245976They said they wouldn't because it makes no economic sense, that 125% tariffs effectively lock out all American imports and they wouldn't engage in some dumb pantomime to keep rising tariffs just for show. Pains me to say it but they are making America look like fools.
>>60246001A chinese OSHA video
>>60245990>China has just said per bloomberg that they don't need to fuck with the numbers anymore because american shit isn't selling at this pointchina says a lot of shit, but that would explain them backing offoh wait, you actually believed it?No, if that's true, it's just an excuse for them to find an off ramp to "save face"I'm not really surprised. And if they really did say that, and really will stop retaliating then yeah... that means they were hurting pretty badly lmaoImagine the chinaman backing away while claiming he will fight you to the end
>>60246002God please they need to divert all the blast mining gains to Europe shit will be so funny
>>60245775tbf.after much longer of this shit i could see boomers and youngins alike be fine with higher capital gains tax and maybe even unrealized capital gains tax if in exchange they advertise a way out of this "chaos" and promise le stability
>10y bund / t-bill spread at 147>lowest since 2014
>>60246009because real world made of real people who think like humans don't just go "oh OK we can trust US again" after all that has happened...trust takes tears to build and one second to destroy after all
Baby boomers now account for 42% of all homebuyers, while millennials accounted for 29%, per FORTUNE
>>6024598775% tax rates wouldn't work because of the Laffer Curve lil bro
What's the buy if Powell gets the axe?
>>60246030>They said they wouldn't because it makes no economic sense, that 125% tariffs effectively lock out all American imports and they wouldn't engage in some dumb pantomime to keep rising tariffs just for show. Pains me to say it but they are making America look like fools.Ah okay, so they are backing down and trying to save face, got itYeah their goose is cooked. They really shouldn't have done thatBut I guess this is the off ramp they need to save face. This is actually good news for the economy, since it means they are more likely to make a deal and the ridiculous 125% tariffs going either way will come off
>>60246037lowest without taking 2022 energy crisis and covid into account, I meant
>>60246045Gold and BTC
wait why is the premarket going negative
>>60246002They already started that in December 2024>China bans rare mineral exports to the U.S.>Gallium, germanium, antimony - those are the minerals China says it's banning from export to the U.S. Those, along with what are called superhard materials - and China says it's going to subject graphite exports to stricter review.>https://www.npr.org/2024/12/08/nx-s1-5216115/china-bans-rare-mineral-exports-to-the-u-sAnd more recently:>The commerce ministry also announced that it is imposing export controls on seven types of rare earth minerals. They include samarium (钐), gadolinium (钆), terbium (铽), dysprosium (镝), lutetium (镥), scandium (钪) and yttrium (钇).
ok but actually THOUGH should I load up on 0dte puts
>>60245407hi leaf.but agree with you that those puny countries in the Europe barking like chihuahuas are very funny to watch.
>>60246035Trump won on stabillity to and Biden to it’s just a clownshow every four years and the next jester promises normalcy
>>60246009Because “just kidding we’re not gonna tariff our allies 40+% we’re just gonna tariff them 10% and make them fly over to suck our cocks” might convince slurpers but it doesn’t convince foreign governments
>>60246045A class in risk management
>>60246009Once bitten, twice shy as they say
>>60245365Name 12. Rome collapsed due to inflation. Germany? Inflation. Turkey also inflation
Dow Jones just dropped a full percent in 10 minutes premarket lol
If you are too retarded to look up treasury yields before posting>why is it going down????Maybe stick to index funds or letting the jeets at Schwab manage your money thank you.
>>60245357This is the MIGA version of The Sign®
>>60246046125% tariffs effectively cut off imports so they are not wrong. Doesn't mean they can't retaliate in other ways.
>>60246055For the same reasons. What do you think has changed that alters the outlook?
PPI cold and deadeven if we can avoid this trade war, it's already a recession.sell any spike you see but don't get margin called by the con pumps.
>>60246064>it doesn’t convince foreign governmentsAs seen in treasury yields
>>60246045>if Powell gets the axe>ifI don't think Trump can remove unilaterally him he would need the Senate to tacitly approve.
>>60246103>He didn't see the supreme court case
>>60246080and it will get back up on market open, and then drop down when macros open
>>60246091NOTHING'S CHANGED CRAB MARKET RULES
>>60246074germany experienced severe deflation in the 30's right after hyperinflation. great depression was also deflation. japan atm doesn't look good either
>>60245663For the second to exist you need the first. That's the point, retard
>>60246103Senate won't axe Powell
>>60245487Quantbrainrot, the qualitative advantages are zero for china
>>602460455.56×45mm NATO
>>60246090>125% tariffs effectively cut off imports so they are not wrong. Doesn't mean they can't retaliate in other ways.Uh yeah, what they said is technically correct, but that's not the real reasonThey backed down first, and came up with some excuse as to why, in order to save faceYou do know that everything coming out of china is a narrative, right? They never speak the truth unless it benefits them. It is an extremely dishonest nation. Just like russia, every official announcement is spinThis is the best timeline. Truly!I want to see some dabbing on the chinks today"chinks cucked" "broke chinamen back down against the don"
Goldbugs were right all along bros
>>60246106Yeah, its pending and doesnt mean shit
Anyone know what times retard in chief is planning to talk today so I know when to sell before the retail pump
oh noes, MY TESLA NOOOOOOOOOO
>>60246106You're right I didn't. A lot has been happening. Could you give me a quick rundown?
>>60246150https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-04-09/trump-asks-supreme-court-to-let-him-fire-top-agency-officials
I hope everyone who voted for trump are rounded up and humiliated. America is a dystopian hell hole, but now we are a isolated collapsed hellhole. American power was ending, we could of took it like a man a gradually accepted our role in the new multi polar world, but trump and to throw a tantrum on the world stage and now we are imploding.
The funniest part about all this is that China actually likes Trump, both people and politicians
>>60246113Crab is an illusion caused by a combination of desperate ploys to keep things afloat and dead cat bounce. The direction is down. Of course it could be argued that the illusion is also an objective reality that can be exploited for profit so go for it but make sure that's just your short term plan.
>>60246144does he talk everyday?
>>60245357This post is a mix of conspiratorial reasoning, selective fact use, and economically illiterate conclusions. It’s dressed up as a clever explanation of complex macroeconomics but falls apart under critical scrutiny.While it touches on real concepts—interest rates, tariffs, stock market dynamics—it stretches them beyond credibility to make ideological points. It assumes intentionality where there’s no proof and misattributes causes and effects (e.g., eggs and tariffs).If this were posted in an economics classroom, it would get laughed out of the room—or at least handed back with a big red pen scribble: “Correlation ≠ causation.”I'll side with Mr. Roboto
7 minutes...
>>60246147Where are the robo taxis and the humanoid bots (which aren't tele-operated by Indians)?!?
>>60245899I love America and I'm even an honorary member of a fire department in Texas. It's why this hurts, nobody is quite sure what the US wants and every proposal to fix the relationship is shot down immediately.This is /biz/ related because my portfolio looks like a battered wife.>>60245473>>60245484Probably nukes. He's getting into advanced mental decline at his age and when men get to a certain stage of it they can get aggressive and paranoid.
So are we feeling bullish or bearish today /SMG/?
7 minutes till bloodbath, how will the miga cultist spin it this time?
>>60246147>becomes richest man in the world>it's not enough>gives 250 million to maga>does nazi salute>doge>destroys his tesla brand into ruins>>china did thatwhitey always blame, never take responsibility!
Too late to buy gold?
>>60245648this webm describes my portfolio recently
Alright, place your bets everyone place your bets. Market open, what kind of rollercoaster we going on?
>>60246179I still don't know, I'm just keeping my european options up still while Trump is schizo tweeting about Hillary
>>60246155Really no need to be that salty about it. This is a great opportunity to profit. Realise the gains from years of prudent accumulation and move all that lovely money into gold. But you're clearly a smart guy. You did that 2 weeks ago, right?
>>60246165The post makes no mention at all about eggs. You have ruined your own credibility to create some random quip about eggs while ignoring the reality of what was said.
What’s he scheming now
>>60246187Buy gold miners
>>60246180When the stock market goes down, it's Wall Street losing money which will be going to the working class instead. It's actually a good thing
what inverse etfs do i buy calls on
>>60246197Anon, the image is about egg prices…
>>60246205Buy gold miners outside the USA.
4 minutes
I'm buying puts
>>60246201Nothing. Empty head.
> Fox Business: US corporate bankruptcies rise to highest Q1 level since 2010This is fine.
>>60246205Do they still sell them in Africa?
>>60246201Is he going to pump DJT again?
>>60246152Members of independent agencies fired by TrumpJan. 27Equal Employment Opportunity CommissionFired Democratic Commissioners Charlotte Burrows and Jocelyn Samuels have not yet challenged their firings.National Labor Relations BoardDemocratic board member Gwynne Wilcox has since been reinstated by U.S. District Judge Beryl Howell. The D.C. Circuit is weighing the Trump administration's appeal.Privacy and Civil Liberties Oversight BoardDemocratic members Travis LeBlanc and Edward Felten have challenged their firings. U.S. District Judge Reggie Walton has scheduled a hearing for April 30. Trump also fired Democratic Chair Sharon Bradford Franklin, but she did not challenge her firing.Jan. 31Federal Election CommissionDemocratic Chair Ellen Weintraub has not yet challenged her firing.Feb. 7Office of Special CounselSpecial Counsel Hampton Dellinger was reinstated by U.S. District Judge Amy Berman Jackson and then removed again by the D.C. Circuit. On March 6, Dellinger ended his legal fight.Feb. 10Merit Systems Protection BoardDemocratic member Cathy Harris has since been reinstated by U.S. District Judge Rudolph Contreras. The D.C. Circuit is weighing the Trump administration's appeal.Federal Labor Relations AuthorityDemocratic Chair Susan Tsui Grundmann has since been reinstated by U.S. District Judge Sparkle Sooknanan.March 18Federal Trade CommissionDemocratic Commissioners Rebecca Kelly Slaughter and Alvaro Bedoya say they will challenge their firings.Idk nigga JPow is higher up the food chain than Merit Systems Protection Board.
Has Scott Bessent tried jump starting the bonds and give them a nice push? might work
>>60246201>we are doing really wellWhat metric is he using for this? Surely this well thought out policy will have some KPIs he could show us?
didn't end up buying 40k worth of nike stock yesterday because i firmly believe today will be the bottom
>>60246214Good point
>>60246219>q1desu biden did that
>>60246219all part of the planMAGA
>>60246211Anon, that's what the image is but the body of the actual post doesn't mention eggs at all. I know 4channel might be a new thing for you but don't get distracted by the image
>>60246209I wish that was true. Unfortunately it's smug eurofags like me stealing your money by betting against you.
I want off mr trumps wild ride
>>60246201That first deal needs to be and look very good for the USA, and no country is biting
>>60246045No, keep the funny printer man around. It would not be the same without JP.
>>60246158>Crab is an illusion>>60246177Hopefully, if there's a society after all this, they will make it illegal to run for president if you're over the retirement age.
>>60246230>buying a stock that's been in free-fall for a year now
the first circuit breaker snaps today
>>60246201>it's signedDoes exciting mean volatility will go up? Or will we crab some more
>>60246201Literally noone is excited by tariffs except the bears
good luck everyone
Is the dead cat manifesting visually bullish or bearish
>>60246252I wish but this market is scarily crabby right now.
>>60246205>>60246214so they can use your money as their personal debit card. migiht as well buy philippine stocks lol
Its time
Here we go
NEW>>60246260>>60246260>>60246260>>60246260kinda early because i will be busy tradingmigrate when ready
Mumus can't even begin to conceive how hard it'll dump today
>>60246193>But you're clearly a smart guy. You did that 2 weeks ago, right?I am not smart guy, my brother is and that is what he did with precious metal, but way earlier.
>>60246219>>60246236Are you people actually stupid or just pretending? How the fuck can any corporate bankrupcies that happened already in Q1 be possibly Trump's fault? The tariff shit happened less than 2 weeks ago.
BANG BANG BANG BANG BANGCAM ON LET'S MAKE SOME FOOKIN' GAINS
>>60246250Why did this orange retard tarrif everyone in one big go, it's going to take ages to make deals, could've spread it out region by region and his friends could have profited that way still
>>60246262crabbish
I read the stars and the stars told me it's all crab
>>60246223>Idk nigga JPow is higher up the food chain than Merit Systems Protection Board.IDK Federal Election Commission sounds pretty important. In my country the Judiciary picks those authorities and they can't be remove by the Executive.
>>60246281Art of the deal
>>60246265Filipino gold mines, you say?Thanks, Anon. I'll look into it.
>>60246278I didn't say a single word about Trump, politics, or government. I literally quoted Fox News.
>>60246201Very exciting folks it’s going to be big
ALLIN
>>60246298And I replied to a person who replied to your post with "MAGA, all part of the plan", implying that what you posted is somehow Trump's fault.
>>60246312PUTS???
>>60246201I assume he will announce the first deal with another country, making markets rally as they realize he's going to be lowering tariffs across the board country by country and allowing him to save face. I love the President but this was his biggest fuck-up of all time, and a trickle of lower-tariff-deals is his only way forward if he wants to repair the damage done.
>>60246278He already tariffed canada and mexico before. Also the threat of tariffs raises prices today
>>60246238the image is related
>>60246222Go back to zzz
PPI is down. What does it mean? Recession?
So are things pretty much at a stalemate?Or in other words......well...N.E.H.
>>60246369>GLOBAL>RECESSIONARY>DEFLATE
>>60246369Pre-tariff data, irrelevant, that's why it's crabbingWould have been bullish if no tariffs (more rate cut chances). But as is, it's pretty meaningless whole scenario's changed.
>>60246353>and misattributes causes and effects (e.g., eggs and tariffs).Not for the reason anon was trying to misattribute it as.Eggs are farm products but not all farm products are eggs
>>60246338None of that would have had any impact whatsoever on companies that had filed for bankrupcy in Q1 this year. No company goes belly-up in a matter of weeks or even months just because of tariff talk without any actual implementation of tariffs at the time. They would have had to go through years of hardship and struggle before filing for bankrupcy.
I doubt there's ever been such insane trading as what's going on with tsla right now. The company is dead in europe and china, and it's pumping even when spy is red.
>>60246363No.
messy ass bananas opening asUsual
>>60246416It’s legitimate, organic, trading. It’s good and nothing to worry about.
>>60246410There’s no market magic here. Just disruption, political fallout, and inefficiencies — all of which cost everyone, including taxpayers and consumers.
>>60246197Did you not read the final sentence? Also the image? Fucking magatards
>>60246109called it
>>60246262Upside down batman
>>60245395Little Awoo, thats not how this works. That's not how this works at all.
>>60245364why he is soooo orange lmao
