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two more weeks edition

>Educational sites:
https://www.investopedia.com
https://www.khanacademy.org/economics-finance-domain

>Financial TV Streams:
https://www.newslive.com/american/cnbc.html
https://www.livestreamy.net/bloomberg/

>Charts:
https://www.tradingview.com
https://www.finscreener.com
https://www.portfoliovisualizer.com

>Screeners: so you feel like in the movies
https://finviz.com/
https://etfdb.com/

>Gambling:
https://www.optionsplaybook.com/options-introduction/
https://www.optionsprofitcalculator.com
https://optionstrat.com/
https://www.optionistics.com/quotes/option-prices

>Pre-Market and Live data:
https://www.investing.com/indices/indices-futures
https://finance.yahoo.com/

>Calendars
https://www.marketwatch.com/economy-politics/calendar
https://www.earningswhispers.com/calendar
https://www.cmegroup.com/trading/interest-rates/countdown-to-fomc.html
https://www.mortgagenewsdaily.com/data/building-permits

>Boomer Investing 101: so zoomers with meme stocks can outperform you
https://www.bogleheads.org/wiki/Getting_started
https://www.sec.gov/search-filings

>Misc smg:
https://www.financialjuice.com/home
https://finance.yahoo.com/trending-tickers
https://market24hclock.com/
https://www.dividendchannel.com/drip-returns-calculator
https://brokerchooser.com/
https://www.chathamfinancial.com/technology/us-market-rates

>NEW THREAD: Copy-paste the following when making a new thread:
https://pastebin.com/GfB48W5G

previous smigger thread
>>62066297
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Donald Trump saved my wheat
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>>62067153
bought time lazy dam baker
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Took your fucking time baking. Jesus.
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So when we pumped the market ACTUALLY believed the orange retard and ignored Iranians saying he's lying? There's no insider trading, no hidden tricks, it's all just gullible retards?
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>>62067156
subsidized welfare migger
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>>62067159
Crazy, isn't it?
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>>62067153
you suck at baking only 200 posts late
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In two more weeks trump will say we are going to leave in two more weeks and the markets will giga nigga rally for no fucking reason
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I just bought a Tomahawk in Pounland. Everyone has them.
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>>62067159
>trump lies
>everyone buys because they believe everyone else will buy
>nobody actually believes what trump says
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>>62067157
>>62067158
>>62067164

i've literally just woken up and logged on, why does nobody else bake in this place
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>>62067153
Ultimate MAGA
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Something qbout to happen in about 5 ish hours. Do with that information what you will but I exited all markets including my bank account. Even withdrew all my money from my bank account.
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>futures
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>>62067165
In three weeks market will be onto next big thing. Totally forgotten
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>>62067167
How much was it? Might get one myself. There's this school near me, they make a lot of fucking noise.
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>>62067172
>Even withdrew all my money from my bank account.


why
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>>62067172
Will physical gold be safe, or will it get radioactively contaminated?
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>>62067170
>i've literally just woken up and logged on,
You should have set an alarm.
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>>62067177
It will turn inert.
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Blackhole sun
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I would like to remind everyone how israeli government shills were calling me "oil baggie" when I bought the picobottom at $77 WTI after the energy secretary posted that fake tweet about a naval escort and then deleted it. Who's the baggie now?
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Eurobros, it's kinda pointless watching the line go up and down until the burgers wake up. What are we entertaining ourself with until they do something?
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>>62067170
see>>62067179
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>>62067169
>nobody actually believes what trump says
My trust in him being a liar was so strong that I put 40% of my portfolio in leveraged puts yesterday evening.
I will not hold them over the weekend, gotta collect my gains quickly before he does aTACO.
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>>62067183
lol
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Thank you Mr. President, I'm having fun.
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>>62067169
>everyone buys because they believe everyone else will buy
When you believe you're in a fake pump, you don't buy, you sell. I sold a bit of my bag yesterday, why would I buy into a bull trap. Why wait for a reversal if you know it's fake
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WE HEBBEN EEN SERIEUS PROBLEEM!!!
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kek "kek oilbros" oilbros
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irgc is exposing the US Navy as impotent
unable to protect vital shipping trade lanes. a job that is 50% of what the Navy is designed to do. and they are getting cucked by turd worlders
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>>62067189
I mean, yesterday I sold some mines and other green stocks and bought a bit of oil
today I sold oil and bought cheap stocks
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>>62067184
I’m playing slay the spire 2
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>>62067190
Poopensharten
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>>62067189
I sold practically everything. Only holding an oil producer, RTX and a bit of gold.
Went 3x short Nasdaq 100. Hoping it craters later.
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>>62067191
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also who tf has balls to hold through the weekend?
I'm thinking of keeping my 3x long oil position until tuesday
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how bad is it having to have the US Navy turn around and go home cucked losing the #1 most important trade route?

iran is going to be the richest country in the world
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My minors will be raped dead today, fuck you Trump you pedophile Zionist traitor
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>>62067203
Im going to hold oil and hope trump or isreal escalates
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>>62067153
Yesterday I made 0.43% in 6 hours. I’m going to be a billionaire in 10 years kek
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>BREAKING: The IRGC is now charging tolls, with rates starting at $1 per barrel of oil, on ships passing through the Strait of Hormuz, paid in Chainlink tokens, per Bloomberg.

>The process includes:

>1. To pass, ship operators must first check the foreskin presence of the captain

>2. They then provide their vessel’s ownership, flag, the cargo manifest, destination, jew list, and transgender information

>3. The intermediary then passes the file onto the IRGC Navy’s Hormozgan Provincial Command for wellfare checks to ensure no link to the US or Israel

>4. Iran has a ranking system of 1 to 5 for quality of tweets posted, with tweets from countries that are seen as friendly more likely to get better terms

>Once the toll is paid, the IRGC issues a permit code and route instructions for the ship to pass.
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>>62067190
WE GAAN
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>>62067203
Yes the war will magically end over the weekend this time
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>>62067190
hij sneed me af
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>>62067191
Are you having a stroke bro?
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>President says U.S. military objectives would be completed ‘very shortly’ and pledges to hit Iran ‘extremely hard'

This nigger thinks he's playing hockey
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the US Navy is getting cucked in real time
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>>62067184
Currently mostly my employment.
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oil bros.....................they think they defeated us
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i am financially ruined.
why didnt i long oil?
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>>62067222
oils GODS in charge
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>>62067221
same, but i'm not doing very much

>>62067223
>i am financially ruined.
>why didnt i long oil?

he listened to /biz/
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I love you guys. I wish we could have coffee together while hookers sit on our hard cocks.
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now that the dust has settled and oil is inevitably going to at least 125, what are we buying? The oil giants seem a better play than oil futures
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Enjoying a morning Coke paid for by KO dividends. Feels good frens.
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Toilet status?
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>>62067203
I'm holding my oil producer until the strait is opened. Holding my RTX long term until they've replaced THAAD and patriot radars.
Looking for re-entry on some others much lower at close today but will hold off if not low enough.
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US Navy is vulnerable to superior turd worlders they won't get with in 1000 miles of the Hormuz
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>>62067219
Without retrieving or destroying the enriched uranium the US hasn't and won't achieve its core objective, this requires troops, special forces in this case
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>>62067203
>3x long oil position
Doesn't that degrade overnight?
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>>62067229
shitters clogged
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>everyone im that leveraged oil short at at -18% right now
Yowchie. Wonder how many of them are 50+ years old and went to bed at 8pm lol
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>>62067227
I'm in HBR. It gives me exposure to oil price rise but should also take off like a scalded cat if starmer is forced to relax north sea fields.
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turns out the US can stop spending hundreds of billions on US Navy branch, turns out it doesn't do anything
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Oilbros how we feelin?

I'll admit today got me worried but I believed in myself :^)
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>>62067232
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Thanks, Israel!
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>>62067236
I doubt boomers are into derivatives
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>>62067213
not what I said
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>>62067211
Anyone knows which countries are in which of the tiers 1 to 5 of friends of Iran?
Does Germany get the first 6 million barrels toll-free?
t. german
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Quick reminder the"this is february 2020 and markets being oblivious to everything" anon IS right. And there's no ON/OFF button to reboot the system and pretend nothing happened like last time.
Trade accordingly
Spoiler: TOTAL MUMU DEATH
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>>62067248
Thanks to your Syrian majority you are tier 1 allies
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why won't UK and France help us they need the oil more than US
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>>62067249
Panic selling everything right now.
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>>62067251
>wah wah mommy clean up my diapee
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>>62067184
I'm imagining having the honour of being able to squeek into Sabrina Carpenter's tiny butthole.

Been kind of enjoying the last five minutes of mindscaping, ngl.
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>just print more oil, bro
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>>62067240
they seem to lag oil prices? 9% gain i 1 month vs 50%? their financials look insane though on a 5b mkt cap
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>>62067251
>why won't UK and France die for Israel like the USA
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>>62067254
>tiny

that ship sailed awhile ago probably
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>>62067251
>>62067250
France and UK are working to become tier 1 friends of Iran, Spain already is. We will have cheap oil anyway.
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>>62067244
It will be like the A-team
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>>62067194
Henllo,

Don't mind me, just looking at Donakd Cuck TACOing and throwing away all the post WWII order when the indexes go sliiiightly into the double digits correction.
Buy your RTX 5070Ti and your DDR5 sticks, they're so cheap right now compared to what they'll be quite soon, you will kick yourself for not buying now.

See u in 2027, kiss, best regards and thank you for your attention to this matter
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>>62067249
Hope so, I’m slurping if we get there
This isn’t the end of free market capitalism, faggots
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>>62067234
>Doesn't that degrade overnight?
yes it does. Its all fucked
>>62067243
holy shit, nice work

>>62067244
Imagine if they spread it around a bit. Like 5 locations and put mines and placed automated mortars to fire around it if they see a helicopter. I would do this.
One inside a huge military base
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>>62067260
Only if Trump stops being a nigger and sharting in the mart/strait.
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>>62067244
is this an April fool's joke?
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>>62067251
We don't have any navy or military remember. You've been looking after us. We are poor and cowardly and weak.
Remember?
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i was so sure he was gonna announce an end to the war tonight. Instead he fucked everything
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>>62067256
I'm only in it for the duration of the oil crisis. It is well positioned for any government capitulation on north sea oil.
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>>62067268
oh yeah that is a truke
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Banan status?
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>>62067251
HELP HELP HELP PLEASE HELP US SOMEBODY PLEASE AAHHHHHHH
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>>62067267
No.
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my oil short is fucked
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WHERE ARE THE GUYS WHO BULLIED ME FOR BEING AN OIL BAGGIE!!!!
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>>62067234
>67203 #
>>3x long oil position
>Doesn't that degrade overnight?

the main reason I haven't bought oil a week ago or more

total BS I wanted to long oil for months
guess you can't really do that
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>>62067276
>oil short
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>>62067273
How did we get here?
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>>62067251
>spend billions on a war even the US can't win
>keep oil high in the process
>put your carriers at risk of laundry fires costing more billions

we should just pay the toll

it'll have the dual benefit of getting oil, with the toll being easily covered by the oil price falling as a result, and it'll piss off Trump

>go get your own oil
>nooooo not like that

this makes the most sense, so it's why our government won't do it
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>>62067194
The attacks originate from land. They could bomb them
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>>62067276
Double down.
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>>62067276
Get FUCKED you absolute CLOWN. Are you the guy with puts that only print if WTI goes to $75?
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>>62067278
I've been scalping on the 3x daily most days. I made 10% in 2hrs yesterday.
Not bothering today as already too high.
I'm scalping a 3x tech short instead.
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>>62067268
I mean that's objectively true, Britain has more admirals than ships, your fleet is a fraction of what it was just 20 years ago, Britain wouldn't be able to retake the Falklands with its current navy, without America NATO is unable to open the strait and escort ships like during the Tanker War during the Iraq-Iran war and politically there's no downside to not joining the war effort because everyone blames Israel and Trump
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>>62067282
That's what happens when mossad has serious dirt on you
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>>62067270
>orders 50k troops to the ME
>deploys ANOTHER, third aircraft carrier
>surely this means he will deescalate
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>>62067285
Never mind the toll. Just buy direct off Iran.
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THE MARKETS FUCKED AT OPEN
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I'm so tired
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>>62067251
You see in evropa we don’t do evangelical judeo christianity
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>>62067295
its over
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>>62067291
We have two carrier groups. We could easily fight the Falklands war again.
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>>62067295
Prime for a bussey tamp
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>>62067291
It's not like argies can take them either nowadays
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>>62067285
We could also just get it from Russia, much closer by. But we can't. Because for some reason that's bad and it has something to do with Ukraine. And that Ukraine problem is something to do with a little rat boy.

The only thing I can deduce from the situation so far is that the above described problem appears to bear absolutely no commonality with the cause of the current middle east problem.

If -only- there was some kind of common link that could be identified between the two.
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Dare I short oil over the weekend?
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>>62067295
MAY DAY! MAY DAY!
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>>62067228
Nice Icon fren, which Saint is that
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>>62067305
TACO monday has been one of the most reliable bets in this market
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>>62067294
>>62067304
>buy oil directly from iran or russia

but that would be a breach of the current sanctions imposed by international law anons and completely out of the question
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>>62067304
Ukraine should finish Russia this year. Once they are beat we can talk to the new management.
Until then, fuck those cunts.
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>>62067299
You're delusional, your navy is 1/5th of the strength it was then

Here's some sobering reality of the current state of your navy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gru2EDJvj9Q
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>>62067305
lowkenuinely sounds retarded
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I AM FINANCIALLY
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>62067310
Drill baby drill. Pump my bag.
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>>62067248
We still have to pay back our historical debt to Israel. Iran won't like that.
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>>62067251
lolno. Here's France oil consumption. Noticed something? Yeah, learning the lesson after being literally backstabbed by the US allying itself with the USSR (that threatened with nukes) on the Suez crisis issue, on top of getting an oil embargo by the US enforced by making the Gulf states not selling oil anymore to France. Country had to live with oil tickets rationing like it's a fucking combination of 1929+WWII again. And thus decided to go full nuclear. Literally. Both military and civilian. And then the dual oil crisis in the 70s cemented the shit. Oil consumption went down massively stayed where it is.
On top of having smart diversification, the sentiment is rightfully "not our problem, deal with it yourself". I bet Canada will win massively by getting more oil demand from Europe. Bet on them.
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>>62067159
see META tribe v2. There’s now an optimal way to invoke fear and greed
all of that dumb money just needs relocation
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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
FINANCIALLY
AM
I
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New cope just dropped fellow migatards, Trump is a genius and he wants to lose
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrmERlHUqBk
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A 20 minute speech? Since when does Donald Trump, mango monkey, talk for just 20 minutes? Good lord his entire idea of self confidence is he gets to keep you in your chair while he talks
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>>62067312
I'm sorry. I'm not a zoomer. I don't get my information from YouTube and neither should you.
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Made 400 dollars off my 1,200 spy put yesterday... could've had 600 but I got greedy. First one I've ever done, have a better idea of how it works now. Bought 22 put that expires today for spy, -.05% breakeven. Was that retarded since spy already went down 1% premarket or is it reasonable to assume another .5 is possible? Also if everyone is panic selling will it be harder to sell my put?
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Oilkings how we feeling? We back? Truly are the most powerful people in the world.
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>>62067323
>Doesn't even know who Mark Felton is
>Objective information like during the Falklands War Britain had 43 frigates compared with 7 today
Oof
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>>62067159
Iranians would have huge incentives to lie, not to mention that claims have been that there has been no DIRECT negotiations, which would be in line with communication going through intermediaries (pakis for instance).

But I still wouldn't believe a word Drumpf says.
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>>62067159
Because the alternative is the biggest market crash since 2008, it's very obvious we're in a bubble as exhibited by the "irrational exuberance" of the markets
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Shit looks like it's going to burst pretty soon, but could be next week.
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FINANCE!
AAAAA!
AAAA!
AAA!
AA!
A!
!!
!
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>>62067276
LMAO
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Japanese bond yields are blowing out too lmfao. Let's add a yen carry trade unwind on top of all of this kek.
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>>62067327
War has changed. Yes, our military is not as good as it should be due to a seemingly peaceful century.
Sadly, Mr Putin and Mr trump have shattered those illusions with their megalomaniac old age fantasies of being bigger men than they are.
Both are learning the hard way.
Our military will be ready when we need it.
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Load up on those oil calls fellow panicans, its different this time
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>>62067156
Based King Trump
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>>62067336
The whole shebang is coming down. There's no stopping it now.
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you fucking donkey
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>crude at $107
holy shit lmfao
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>European Diesel futures have hit 200 dollars a barrel
Ruh roh...
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>>62067318
For a moment it looked like France got memed like other Europeans into renewables but I guess you got smart and said fuck that more nuclear
I hope it works and you lead by example and east euros build some too and shut down coal and even nat gas if possible. I hope you build so much economies of scale help the whole continent to follow.
Germans are retarded and cant see Americans rule them and push Green nonsense on them.
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>>62067329
Nigger the media turned a day old article where the President of Iran said to a European bureaucrat during a phone conversation that they want security guarantees before any negotiations even start that their negotiators aren't killed like before into 'Iran seeks security guarantees for ceasefire' Iran has always said it's willing to negotiate but has constantly rejected the current terms which are the same terms as before the war, markets are basing what's happening on selected quotes without the broader context from news article headlines and twitter posts
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>>62067251
they have russian oil
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>>62067343
you got it wrong it's 2000$ a barrel anon
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>>62067342
getting close to 108
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>>62067344
Belgium with two reactors is literally looking to build 4 more right now.
If it were something you could invest in you'd make bank in the next 5 years.
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>>62067326

I will eagerly meet JEW FAGS on market open with my calls

I am Jack Mackintosh, the Oil King.
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If drumpf TACOs my put this morning somehow after the shitshow last night honestly fair game enjoy my pennies nigger
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good mor-
WHAT THE FUCK
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>>62067355
Trump can only "TACO" with words but not actions thus nothing material changes with what he says but unfortunately the markets are too stupid to realise this
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1h ago09.07 BST
China blames US and Israeli attacks on Iran for Hormuz strait closure

China has blamed US and Israeli strikes on Iran for the effective shutdown of the strait of Hormuz, which has been at a near halt for a month, saying these attacks were the “root cause” of the problem.

In a national address last night, Donald Trump said countries that receive oil through the major shipping route, which carries about a fifth of the world’s oil, “must take care of that passage” themselves.

When asked by reporters to comment on the US president’s remarks, the Chinese foreign ministry spokesperson, Mao Ning, said: “The root cause of interruptions to navigation through the strait of Hormuz is the United States and Israel’s illegal military operations against Iran.”
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Short squeeze on WTI is imminent. Hold onto your butts.
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>>62067356
Oh but you haven't even see the best part yet
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>>62067364
Bottom of the barrel rich bros getting fucked cause they're not really in the club like they thought they were. kek
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>>62067351
That's what I'm thinking too, oil companies don't have long left after this shit and we'll start seeing serious investment in renewables. However these projects are much more efficient without jewish speculation ruining them, I'd rather have them be government owned
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>>62067362
damn oil is gonna go straight to $200 huh. Wow.
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>>62067364
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>>62067369
Please yes, I would get a x10 if that happens
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How the fuck is the FTSE holding up so well?
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>>62067369
all this means is that it's not too late to get into smol cap texas oil stocks before they 2 and 3x again come next couple months and earnings.
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>>62067373
Warhammer is just that good
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But really, we know they'll pull out all the jooish tricks in the book 30 minutes before open. The same ones as usual. And the FUCKTARDED market will gobble them up like good sperm once again.
I'm fucking tired already.
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TRUMP WHAT ARE OYU DOING
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>>62067377
I doubt it. Last night's speech broke the spell. Oil has been going straight up since.
He's used up all his credit.
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>>62067373
BP propping up the index. More real companies instead of memetechAds economy.
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>>62067377
That's why I'm not too bigly assblasted over missing the midnight pump. They've made it abundantly clear there will be more. Good luck figuring your entries and exits though LOL
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>>62067380
Aye. The BP lad will wake up happy.
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>>62067368
Problem is that nuclear energy projects take like 6 years before even the first shovel hits the dirt
And in Europe its all kinds of fucked. Ok, Frenchies can build infrastructure faster than any Anglo or a Kraut.
So the shock of this right now might be over in 5 years when Europe warms up to Russia after a ceasefire or something.
Still, that UK debacle, that Finnish fuckery is not giving my any hope. Koreans did it VERY fast in UAE, but UAE are not really EU country and I guess they can sit down and make regulators go trough the project fast, make changes.
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>>62067385
the only issue is that stock price doesn't reflect real value and the market isn't rational
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>bought Crude 3x when it was crabbing below 100 and had a $15 gap to Brent
>switched to Brent
>crabs below 110 and the gap has closed

Annoying
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i still dont understand why he doesnt just get out of iran.
he gave up on the strait, he doesnt care baout gas prices anymore, so what else is there to do?
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>>62067389
Market also isn't based on the real economy and that difference is more pronounced than ever, as long as people put money into the market it will go up and top 10% have more than ever before
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>>62067392
Iran itself. Israel wants it destroyed. The more damage the betterer it is. That's the whole goal.
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>>62067392
>why he doesnt just get out of iran
they need to keep their won wars streak anon
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>>62067392
Strange, it's like a certain someone has some cards in hands, like compromising videos...
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>>62067392
They are still trying to manufacture a pretext to go full in for Israel.
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>>62067392
>believes what the orange potato said.

Why though? You should know better by now.
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I am selling everything today, fuck this gay US market. Glad I invested very little in it.
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>>62067392
Leaving now would be a defeat. America cannot afford that.
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>>62067392
He does care about the strait though you retard, the oil that passes that strait is bought and sold in USD which goes back into buying US treasuries, it's a core pillar of the US economic system which is why it can have a $39 trillion deficit and not be impacted, it was created in the 70s after the US abandoned the gold standard
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>>62067392
>i still dont understand why he doesnt just get out of iran

thats not how this works fren
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Okay but like oil is just going to dive down after he says he's pulling out without securing the strait right?
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>>62067392
He cant admit a loss. Especially as publicly as this. Bro thought iranian religious fanatics were the same as hispanics.
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MAGA is the dumbest political movement ever, it's like it was engineered to weaken the west
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>>62067385
>Americans trying to explain a recession going on
HOLY FUCK LOOK AT THE WALMART INDEX
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>>62067404
That's implying what he says will happen, happens. And I don't believe that's how it'll work out.
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>>62067404
No lol. Oil goes down when iran decides to open the strait. Either through a deal with the us/israel or enough time with hostilities has passed they feel its fine to open again.
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>>62067392
>getting out of Iran
They’re only just getting started
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>>62067392
>he doesnt care baout gas prices anymore
As Stalin said - You say you don't care about Gas, but Gas cares about (you)
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as an oilfag I'm just praying that Iran hits the land saudi pipeline at this point (partially because I want to see a recession in the US)
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I'm up bigly on my Nasdaq short and oil long but what are the chances trump pulls a fast one during Easter and heems me. Holding into Easter seems like retardation.
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ORANGE NIGGGEEEEEER
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>>62067417
Holding through easter is just gambling. You'd be retarded to do so.
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>>62067416
>as an oilfag I'm just praying that Iran hits the land saudi pipeline at this point
i want this because arabs are gross vermin.
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Whenever I say stuff like "a small investment of 6000 dollars into peepeepoopoo INC. in 2019 would be life changing money now" peeople get shitty at me and say "YOU WOULDA BOUGHT ANY PENNYSTOCK IN 2019 AND IT WOULDA RUGGED U"

But if I specifically wanted to buy peepeepoopoo and hand 6k to buy with, how would I have rugged myself?
>hindsight is 2020 bro
no! Hindsight is realizing you value small amounts of fiat (maybe a month of salary) over the potential to make 200k down the line, and it's a bad feeling when you trip yourself up like that.
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Also starting to see a lot fo SEA countries making deals with Iran.
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>>62067417
>oil long but what are the chances trump pulls a fast one during Easter and heems me
Pretty sure ground invasion is this weekend. Though I think everyone believes that so it may be priced in already.
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Just thinking about how fucked the world is if Iran gets away with controlling the strait of hormuz. They're basically gonna get filthy fucking rich from the toll booth and get to drastically expand their military capabilities, and the US gets absolutely fucked from them forcing countries to buy GCC oil in Yuan. Basically the only way for the US to win at this point is a full on draft war to change the regime in Iran just so the US can control Hormuz. Everything is fucked either way. Like genuinely, the "Troomp should just leave" approach that the market is waiting for is gonna leave the US market fucked in the long term either way
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>>62067422
The Aryans will deliver total Semitic death.
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>>62067422
I want the same because it would push starmer closer to drilling.
Isn't it great we can all agree despite such diverse reasons.
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>>62067416
I hope the entire gayrab peninsula collapses I want to see houthi chads in the streets of Mekka
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>>62067404
He’s not allowed to pull out. Until the Jews are done he’s not done. And they’re just getting started in Lebanon. Iran won’t make a peace that won’t include Lebanon, and USA obviously won’t leave Israel holding the bag with both Iran and Lebanon.
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>>62067426
All because the master of the deal shredded the Obama accords with Iran
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>>62067417
holding over easter seems retarded but if trump was gonna do a rugpull he would of done it in tonights speech. He only seemed to escalate
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>>62067426
The best outcome would be trump dying and then America saying.. sorry about that, yes, he was a twat. Let's talk.
Won't happen though as Vance is probably worse.
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>>62067373
Early onset of de-dollarisation. Sad. :(
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>>62067438
>Won't happen though as Vance is probably worse.
Hillbillys a retard too dont doubt that one.
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>>62067438
wont midterms change alot of things?
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>>62067425
That's the thing. Everyone thinks it and it isn't like trump is adverse to fucking up the market. I'll mull on it and buy lube just in case.
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>>62067417
always nice taking profits

anything else is a gamble, you could lose it, it could moon - and the things driving it don't even have to be correct

his speech last night leads me to the direction that things get worse before they get better over the coming weeks otherwise he would have said so then.... but thats not to say there won't be schizo movements that go against that direction in between
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>>62067434
They expired naturally anyway, but pulling out prematurely was pretty bizzare. It honestly didn't make much sense to me apart from maybe trying to set up a conflict over "weapons of mass destruction" again, which isn't going all that well for Trump now.
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>>62067441
commander in chief is still gonna be the same after midterms
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>>62067417
You would think holding now is the mother of all holy fuck unknowns and not for retail. You should probably get out or put in a reasonable stop right now.
But what can he do? Is he really going to reverse what he just said in his big fail tv spectactular? (It's all tv for him, none of this is real).
Also, the Artemis 2 is about to fly around the moon and he'll need to soak up reflected glory of that. So for me that would put off dead muhreens for at least a week.
If I was Iran, I'd escalate insanely for four days with the sure knowledge the markets can't do shit and will clear out on Tuesday like nobody's ever seen before (tm). But I'm not Iran lol
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babes you know it's possible we win right? that we get what we want and the region becomes more stable? that's still what i think is gonna happen. if we have to do a commando raid so be it, but i don't think we will. but iran isn't going to fold without an actionable threat in place, that makes them look weak to their chinese partners. there's a lot going on that doesn't make the news babes. the market will tantrum again today but try not to get too worried.
>>62067402
did you get any sleep love?
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>>62067426
the sunk cost reason for ground troops was obvious the moment they stated their original goals
they can't dismantle iran's nuclear program by air strike alone, same for regime change since they waited a month after the most fervent protestors who could have led said ground effort got gunned down in the streets, and now they have a radicalized iranian leadership with enormous influence over a critical strait.
so from a rational perspective yeah you obviously have to go full ground war invasion for this all to be worthwhile, but this conflicts with their political brain that knows that they're committing political suicide by doing so.
but at the end of the day I just cannot see the orange migger being willing to accept the massive loss of face just pulling out now without accomplishing anything causes
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>>62067441
Should do but I think he's going boots this weekend then using the carnage to try and cancel them.
He's crazy.
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>>62067413
I would agree with you but we've rallied like 5% over days based on us leaving
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>>62067434
Just shouldn't have allowed sand people (yes, all of them) access to the anything beyond and including the steam engine. Problem solved.
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$1Robinhood!
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Looks like $108 is done.
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>>62067454
Trump already primed a way out by mission being accomplished by crippling Iran and slowing their path towards nuclear weapons, but I don't think full TACO is going to happen with Israel by his side. I don't think this situation was really planned for as pretty much no one was notified beforehand and ground invasion wasn't really prepared.

I can't even begin to guess what will happen next. My vision was that at worst non-golem nations would just step in and make a deal with Iran to use the strait with USA and Iran being in a long term standstill, but either way it's looking like a bear market or a crisis/crash that will hopefully last for like a year at the longest.
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corn

>AMERICAN FARMERS WILL CUT BACK ON CORN PLANTING IN 2026 DUE TO INCREASING COSTS AND WORRIES OVER THE IRAN WAR.

https://x.com/FirstSquawk/status/2039608553087119435
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>>62067424
Asking for deals =/= making deals, if Iran made all these deals then their shutdown of the strait would in effect cease to exist and thus Iran would lose their leverage, the only way Iran wins and theregime remains in power is by making the war so economically and politically costly for the US that it has to withdraw and they can only achieve that by continuing to shut down the strait
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>>62067474
Less ethanol. Higher gas prices.
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The age of CORN is over. ONIONS will take over now.
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>>62067474
Not like this wheat and inverted sirop bros.
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>>62067465
kill miggers
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>>62067474
Oh no, the crop that's already not profitable but is only planted due to the enormous government subsidies which has led to the creation of things like high fructose corn syrup which has been a major contributor to the American obesity crisis is not being planted
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>>62067483
Too hard to identify here. They all pretend to be Canadian.
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>>62067416
I want to see zoomer slurpers burn in hell. I fucking hate them. BURN AND DIE
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>>62067308
That one is Saint John the Russian
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>WTI 108
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>>62067472
>slowing their path towards nuclear weapons
The main objective of this entire thing is that Iran can never have a nuclear weapon, if Iran maintains their enriched uranium then that objective has failed and Iran will build a nuclear weapon ass soon as they can and become the next North Korea, extorting the world, the US will not leave until that enriched uranium is captured or destroyed
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>>62067484
45% of American corn makes up 10% of their petrol.
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>>62067487
Another little gamble on the futures failed then.
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>only about 40 cents separating WTI and Brent
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Yah we're breaking 110 today. I hope you have your shartbucket handy.
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>>62067490
Pallet of cash would have been cheaper.
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>>62067475
they can also win by making a good trade for their uranium. we have a lot we can offer iran, trade with the west would be very good for them and it's something they want. circumstances forced them into a bad place, and they've gone very far down a path because they didn't have many other options, they were isolated and threatened. this could be a big turning point for iran but it's a deal they can only make once. mars left aquarius today too. might be a good time for us to make peace.
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>>62067492
Which actually makes the petrol more expensive, it only exists as another form of corn subsidies
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kek The Times always keep it short.
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>>62067426
At 2M$ per ship, it's 260M$ per day, 7.8B$ per month, and 96B$ per year. Even if they get half or a third of that, it's a shitload of money for them.
And that's without taking into account how they're currently selling more of their own oil than before, and at higher price. So much for neutering them. They'll be richer lmao.
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>>62067501
Green though, innit?
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>>62067500
Why would Iran give up the only thing that prevents it ever being attacked again?
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>>62067503
You got a gf in your id.
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>>62067502
really funny when you put it on the price chart
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>>62067423
Okay but give some life changing investment opportunities then. I got money to spare
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>>62067507
Who are you who are so wise in the ways of science?
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>>62067511
yup, hate that shit. Says something profound. Doesn't actually tell us how to get rich.
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>>62067504
Studies show it actually causes more emissions as it's less efficient and requires lots of agricultural land for that corn which also adds to emissions, at best its emissions contribution is the same but causes higher fuel and food prices
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>>62067249
Can we get down to April Lows?
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>>62067490
>the US will not leave until that enriched uranium is captured or destroyed
I'm not sure how they wanted to accomplish that. Not prepared for a ground invasion, not coordianting the operation with anyone else. At first even claiming something like Iran wanting to attack at first, so it was preemptive and then that it was a regime change? It all just seems like nonsense and post-hoc rationalization.

Especially when there was an agreement beforehand that Trump himself shredded.
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>>62067512
I have a doctorate in astrology.
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>>62067505
because pursuit of that goal has led them here, to a very bad impasse, and giving it up can lead to better things. it's a crossroads for sure, it's up to our side to convince them to go the right way. i dunno if this is the best method but it's the one we're using and i would prefer it worked than failed.
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>>62067517
Like most green policies. A load of shit.
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>>62067519
Almost like the old fart doesn't have control over certain dumb fucks in his administration.

If pete isn't fired in the next couple months, I'll be surprised.
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>>62067519
Currently they're debating sending in special forces, the 82nd Airborne Division often works with them to form a cordon around the target area and they have been on standby for weeks now in Djibouti
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>>62067503
>shit load of money
96 billion, errrh, divided by 100 million members of the public, urm.... Equals sign.....

...

...960 dollars per person. Before spending a single dollar on anything else. And assuming anyone pays them a single dollar of it.
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>>62067426
They could have just not attacked Iran or not elected a zionist pedophile
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>>62067504
mad really the levels they go to, whole industries and supply chains and all the extra processing and transport to supplement 10% of petrol with ethanol

not to mention rising food prices due to the amount of land needed to grow crops for fuel....

>drill oil/gas
>refine
>use as fuel

or

>drill oil/gas
>refine
>use as fertiliser
>grow crops
>refine crops
>use as fuel
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>>62067385
>>62067389
>>62067410
dollar general is down 25%. it should get hit hard too. might ape a lil at $70 again
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>>62067526
>Currently they're debating
Seems kind of late if that was meant to be the plan all along? Or did they think that they'd jsut hand them over voluntarily if they shoot a couple of rockets at them?
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>>62067527
>dollar
Um sweetie, we count in yuan now.
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>>62067511
>>62067511
gotta pee
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>>62067509
'starts speaking' - boom
lol
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>>62067537
but i can't count to yuan :(
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>>62067490
iran doesnt need nuclear capability to extort the world as recent events have shown
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>>62067249
kek based

Also keep in mind it's also 2022, so oil will keep seesawing up and down until a decisive end to the conflict enables increased oil flow, and then there is still the problem of surveying the damages.
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>>62067527
96 billion would still be around 20% of their GDP.
If you don't think that is massive then lord help you.
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>>62067541
You do if you want to prevent other countries from removing your ability to continue extorting them.
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>>62067490
Bruh, in case you didn't notice, they have worse than a nuclear weapon, and are fully exercising it.
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>>62067536
It's pretty clear the US thought that Iran would capitulate after the initial strikes on their leadership and/or would Iranians would rise up overthrow the regime after those strikes, the US severely miscalculated the the IRGC, they're not "Christians" who are scared to die and would sell their own mother to make a deal, for better or worse these people genuinely believe in their propaganda and are willing to die for it, Atheist real estate salesmen like Trump will never understand that
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so worst case scenario gas and diseal gets a 20% increase at the pump...not to bad not the end of the world
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what was the point of this speech anyways? to calm the market?
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>>62067546
nothing is stopping them from continuing now
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>>62067511
GRRR
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>>62067540
You'll remimibi.
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>>62067547
>they have worse than a nuclear weapon, and are fully exercising it.

whore pussy?
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Kek @ the tards that coped by saying WTI wont go up and the strait shutting will only harm Europe and Asia. KEK BAGGIES
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>>62067490

I bet fucking money this was you too. Wasn’t it! Fucker!!!

I want answers retard. I want them now. How are you so fucking gullible! Step forward rube. It was you. I know it was!
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>>62067541
>>62067547
Maintaining control of the strait isn't something that's guaranteed especially if more people join the conflict and the US commits ground forces, it also doesn't prevent you from being attacked and having your leaders killed as we've seen, there's a reason nothing has ever happened to North Korea
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>>62067153
LONG!
LIVE!
THE KING!
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>>62067551
No. Him and his frens are making bank off the volatility. He swings it one way then swings it another.
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>>62067425
The only reason america is set to lose this war is because of people like you who can't stomach casualties.
If america was willing to take casualties then everyone would predict a full american victory and oil would be cheap already.
Who cares if some of the marines die when the kill death ratio is so high for them?
Americans always kill hundreds of thousands per death.
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>>62067558
Fully closed and soon in hijab :'(
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>>62067551
No one knows, maybe it's to get the boomers up to speed? He literally repeated his "thruths" from this week, but this time stocks went down instead of up...
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>$109
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>>62067549
Why aren't americans willing to risk their lives it makes no sense to me. It's not even a risk because Americans barely ever die in wars.
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>>62067551

An attempt. But he couldn’t say nothing or NOT spook markets somehow. It’s the lengthening of it. That’s scaring the markets. They know the bomb is ticking fast on markets and bubbles like AI if the spice doesn’t flow VERY soon.

Markets will figure this golem out. The eventually do. The goal IS to burn down the Middle East and markets. And the US will come through it best by their reckoning.
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>>62067564
people can stomach americans dying for america, people cant stomach americans dying for israel
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>>62067570
UK and France soldiers should do it they owe us
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>>62067568
KEK "kek oil baggies" baggies
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>>62067560

Step forward asshole. I want answers!!
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>>62067534
Shouldn't dollar general go up in bad times? Or is the idea that buying at dollar general is overpriced so people go to walmart?
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>>62067572
Dude they barely ever die, one american kills a hundred thousand arabs before dying.
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>>62067564
>Imagine a blood lusted America.

We need the world thinking we're not really as bat shit insane as we actually are. We don't want it to unite as one against a common enemy. That's why we don't forcefully shut up the hippy, the peace-loving hypocrite. They make America seem less unhinged than it really is.
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>>62067559
Of course it would go up as WTI is cheaper more people will buy WTI pushing the price up, Trump actually saying for Asia and Europe to buy more American oil just causes American oil prices to go up leading to higher petrol prices, there's also the fact that even if the US stopped oil exports that the US is the world's largest importer and now the cost to produce those goods in Asia and Europe has gone up so the prices of those goods will go up too, the cost of shipping too has also gone up, there is no way America is not economically impacted by this as well
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>>62067561
north korea is a landlocked nation with no real strategic resources
the comparison is not valid
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>>62067574
>they owe us
No.
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>>62067576
I wonder if Raj jumped in front of a train by now. He was so smug about his shorts.
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Trump will pull out of Iran on April 10th. April 10th will be officially become Victory in Iran Day, you heard it here first
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>>62067578
I think the petrodollar was not a meme after all. It's dumping because of that.
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>>62067584
Hopefully he suffered a lot. And is still suffering.
That fucktard ruined the threads with his shitposting.
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>>62067579
Iranians aren't Arabs though. There's a very good chance America tries to invade and gets a right old pasting and sent home.
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>>62067564
Americans don't want Americans dying across the world to defend israel.
Should have made another 9/11 if they wanted the people support.
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>>62067570
What would we be dying for?
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>>62067551
Clear the schedules! Everybody has to listen to the old guy. On tv.
That's more than half of it.
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>>62067549
That course of action would kind of fit, especially with its hubris and how naive it is, but I guess that's USA and its wars.
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>>62067585
Pretty sure Iran will indeed make it a victory day in their calendar, indeed.
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Volatility and happenings is what separates the men from the bois. If you know what you are doing there's so much money in this market.

All the negativity is coming from sore losers.
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>>62067581
>even if the US stopped oil exports
They would have to build new refineries or adapt the ones they have.
They export light crude but refine heavy.
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>>62067584
I don't know why indian ships are allowed through the Strait when they support Israel with all their strength. It's very clear they'll use that oil against Iran.
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>>62067580
Picrel: an accurate pictorial representation of how the rest of the planet is now observing the US and it's equally homosexual partner israel.
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>>62067584
Every jeet I've seen killed by a train was smiling.
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>>62067582
The comparison is very valid because it's constantly extorted the world for payments for decades so it doesn't attack South Korea, it has continued to developed nuclear and ballistic technology and frequently engaged in terrorist and organised crime at the governmental level on an international scale with impunity because of their nukes, if North Korea didn't have nukes Kim Jong Un would've been assassinated, if Iran had nukes then Ali Khamenei would still be alive
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>>62067597
Every european country except Spain, Norway and Ireland congratulated Trump on the opening strikes against Iran.
It's fair for those parts of europe to help in this war.
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damn market barely went down
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Can't we just drop like 25 pounders on the refineries instead of 1000 pounders that way the refineries can be fixed instead of a total loss

it would serve as a nice warning instead of having to rebuild the whole dam thing
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>>62067549
>and/or would Iranians would rise up overthrow the regime after those strikes,
Then this administration is EVEN MORE FUCKTARDED than initially thought. And that was already a too-high bar to pass, imagine that. You don't just gamble on a revolution, you make sure beforehands there are leading figures, cells, regional leaders coordinating the cells, weapons, all in hiding. You build this shit over years, a decade even.
For FUCKS SAKE they have CIA glowies knowing exactly how this shit works. And they didn't listen to them. The US deserves everything it will get.
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>>62067605
ruh roh
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GM
Oil is back? Was the speech that bad?
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>>62067582
>north korea is a landlocked nation
What fucking brain rotting cum guzzling planet do you guys live on?

It's literal luke warm peanut tier stuff dressed up in endless self congratulatory buzz words.
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>>62067600
Damn he must have announced troops on the ground, right?
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>>62067555
I’ll keep an eye on it
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>>62067596
Iran is hoping that world governments bring enough pressure on the US that they end the war, by allowing some token travel through the strait they help divide the US and its allies who are already divided and helps to paint the narrative that the US and Israel are to blame for the strait being closed and not Iran
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>>62067605
He controls every branch of the government and baron trump made a lot of money longing oil futures so trump knew he would make oil go up.
If baron trump starts losing money then you'd know trump has no idea what's he's doing.
You can bet a million that baron was in an oil long when trump started his speech.
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BOOTS ON THE GROUND AND MY PORTFOLIO TURNS AROUND!!!
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>>62067612
>and helps to paint the narrative that the US and Israel are to blame for the strait being closed and not Iran
The strait was not closed prior to the US and Israel attacking.
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>>62067612
it must be crazy for mutts who have no exposure to politics outside their own to see iran acting so levelheaded
and honestly impressive show of restraint from iran given how hard they hit their leadership structure...very resilient and calculating, not at all how they're portrayed in zog media
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>>62067505
Tell what has it prevented so far?
>>62067511
Sell puts on SOXL
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>new mario movie is shit
anybody got some nintendo?
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heating oil is mooning
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>>62067566
how can it be opened
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>>62067617
Yes but ships don't go through because Iran attacks them not because the US or Israel will attack them, the strait is closed due to the threat of being attacked by Iran
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>>62067612
>the narrative that the US and Israel are to blame for the strait being closed
>the narrative
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>>62067621
why it's summer
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>>62067622
It's going to be expensive. The price of lube keeps rising.
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>>62067626
i wonder
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>>62067626
Futures.
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>>62067461
$1BTC!
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>>62067622
It will just naturally open eventually.
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>>62067623
Which is about the only option the attacked country has in terms of retaliation against overwhelming military strength. No matter how much Jewery you attempt to spew, it is still a fact that attacking Iran was the reason the strait got blocked. Add to that, that the intelligence agencies in the US knew this was a real possibility and still went for it, meaning they are equally complicit.
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>>62067604

It’s not a fucking video game man. It’s not hit points and crafting.
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>>62067618
t. quds force peon
keep it up and you'll get a second goat wife
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>>62067635
that's the look of being ripped off on patriot systems
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>>62067522
They saw Libiya, they saw Syria, they saw Iraq. Just build it, they are attacking either way. Its not exactly about the nukes but about petrodollar and bending to american will.
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>>62067619
They don't have a nuclear weapons which is the entire point, as I have said look at North Korea as an example of what happens when you have nukes, an example being the North Korean mini sub sank a South Korean corvette killing 46 people, it can do these actions with impunity because it has nukes
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>>62067638
just drop 25 lbs dumbbell weights on them no explosives
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>>62067634

You’re approach to Hormussy I’d say is like your approach to Pussy.

Neither of them will eventually work
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>>62067640
Is he going to enter normalization with Israel, or not?
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>>62067642

Yes. The only real security is a world with the current instantiation of America is nuclear deterrence.

Shows you the whole nuke story is a red haddock. Because this is making other countries think about going nuclear fast. The lesson is clear.
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>>62067636
You can separate the two, that this is a reasonable and expected response by Iran to being attacked and that the strait is closed specifically due to fear of attack by Iran, no idea why you niggers put people on sides when they give an objective third person view to something
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>>62067651
>red haddock
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>>62067646

Not a cartoon nor a video game. Do I have to draw a diagram?
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was the DHS funding bill good or bad?
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>>62067652
Well that's because you give off the impression of blaming Iran in order to shift the responsibility from US/Israel and to take heat off of them. Yes, Iran is the one attacking the ships so their actions are what is keeping the strait closed, but the one who bears the responsibility for this fiasco are the two countries who decided to attack, unprovoked mind you, and fuck shit up.
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>>62067654
we don't want to fully blow the powerplants they way they can be repaired in days weeks not months years

it would serve as a nicer warning
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>>62067656
>unprovoked
building a nuclear weapon is a little bit provocative
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new

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>>62067620
I read the same shit last time, turns out it was the best movie that year.
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>>62067608
The 20 minute speech was just Trump saying the same things he has been posting for weeks, that the rest of the world must secure the strait, Iran has been obliterated and the war will go on for 2-3 more weeks, the market had expected him to announce some sort of ceasefire because why the fuck was this a national address, market is starting to realise the war isn't a weekend operation like in Venezuela, it took them 30 days to catch up
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>>62067658

THEY DO WANT TO BLOW THEM.

They don’t care about Europe or anyone else. If the US is resources and commodities and energy self sufficient. They believe they will emerge out of the coming war the strongest competitively. Like after WW2.

They are vandals and insane. By that I mean the interests that run Trump.
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The upside of paying a toll to Iran is that Everytime you buy oil, some of your money is going towards the destruction of Israel.
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>>62067632
Peet's!
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>>62067564
>marines die when the kill death ratio is so high for them?
they said the exact same words going into vietnam and couldnt figure out why the death to kill ratio suddenly shrunk as the marines died much faster and at a much greater rate than expected.
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>>62067295
Futures aren't real
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I never thought of this before;
Whose nation maintains and guides ships through Hormuz BEFORE all this shit?

>it's x security company or whatever

Yes, but what nation runs them?

Does Iran do that normally?
If not, then this is a terrorist action, holding g the strait hostage.
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>>62067731
XboxBTC!
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>>62067798
8!
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>>62067860
Yayyy
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>>62067776
>Whose nation maintains and guides ships through Hormuz BEFORE all this shit?
No one. Not necessary, paths they take are good and deep, only if you go around the islands like they have to do now they need pilots from Iran
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>>62067868
Pizza!
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>>62067942
Lol
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>>62067957
Not Really!28!
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>>62067970
Yayus!
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>>62067942
You’re not going to hit glue that pizza are you?
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Sold oil futures so I can go on with my day. 500eur gain. I dont usually do slow term bets like this
Now I will wait for stocks to fall to buy more. Next week



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