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WMJF edition

>Educational sites:
https://www.investopedia.com
https://www.khanacademy.org/economics-financ[INSERT HERE]e-domain

>Financial TV Streams:
https://www.newslive.com/american/cnbc.html
https://www.livestreamy.net/bloomberg/

>Charts:
https://www.tradingview.com
https://www.finscreener.com
https://www.portfoliovisualizer.com

>Screeners: so you feel like in the movies
https://finviz.com/
https://etfdb.com/

>Gambling:
https://www.optionsplaybook.com/options-introduction/
https://www.optionsprofitcalculator.com
https://optionstrat.com/
https://www.optionistics.com/quotes/option-prices

>Pre-Market and Live data:
https://www.investing.com/indices/indices-futures
https://finance.yahoo.com/

>Calendars
https://www.marketwatch.com/economy-politics/calendar
https://www.earningswhispers.com/calendar
https://www.cmegroup.com/trading/interest-rates/countdown-to-fomc.html
https://www.mortgagenewsdaily.com/data/building-permits

>Boomer Investing 101: so zoomers with meme stocks can outperform you
https://www.bogleheads.org/wiki/Getting_started
https://www.sec.gov/search-filings

>Misc smg:
https://www.financialjuice.com/home
https://finance.yahoo.com/trending-tickers
https://market24hclock.com/
https://www.dividendchannel.com/drip-returns-calculator
https://brokerchooser.com/
https://www.chathamfinancial.com/technology/us-market-rates

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>>62140184
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short oil
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Imagine if the Fed responded to 2008 or covid by hiking interest rates and doing QT. That's what you future homeless niggers are longing.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XnygT6ANLzQ
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>>62141582
why are nasdaq futures pumping? ON NO NEWS!
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have any of you also had an existential crisis of being forced to assign beneficiaries but realizing you have no one in your life to leave your assets to?

My mom doesn't really talk to me any more. In a relationship with a guy that is controlling and tells me I need to stop bugging her
My sister is a financial mess that would blow 500k dollars in 3 months. She lives by exploiting simps
I love my grandma but she doesn't have much long left

Should I be one of those losers that leaves everything to charity?
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>>62141596
Extended ceasefire. If the Iran thing is even accounted for anymore
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>>62141582
>don't want to time the market
>everything is overvalued or shit
>this is the gayest and fakest musical chairs gigapump yet
and when i buy it'll surely finally dump, i want off this ride, mr president.
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>>62141601
You could leave it to me. Or at least leave it to some racist organisation, even if you’re not a racist yourself, as a final fuck yet to the modern world.
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>>62141592
the bigger the fud the more likely neh
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>>62141596
London is pumping it up so Donnie's kid can dump on you this afternoon
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>>62141601
If that's your case and you have no kids or nephews you like just find a best bro. It's what some people historically did.
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its never going below 7k again isn't it?
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It's basically just semis pumping
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Intel is still a shit company, the entire recovery was caused by the US government taking a stake in August in exchange for funding that was already guaranteed through the CHIPS Acts (i.e, non dilutive). The facts on the ground haven´t changed. Clown market.
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>>62141592
fed cuts rates? bullish
fed hikes rates? also bullish
just accept the clown market. Aren't you tired of losing?
let go of the oil bags and come home. Nasdaq is calling. The Q's... they miss you. It's not the same since you left.
We... need you. Please. Come home.
pic unrelated. just felt like posting it.
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>>62141618
that doesn't fit at all with my headcanon babe.
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if one party extends the ceasefire unilateraly, doesn't that mean that this party is the one objectively attacking

anyways, ceasefire forever
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>>62139670 #
>Can’t have good thing in real life because jailbait.
>fantasizing good thing.
>make good thing into fake good thing
>???
>happy ending.
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>>62141582
Nothing will save japanese birthrates
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>>62141622
I mean external factors shouldn't be the main course which is what it had been until recently. Performance should be driving the market not some guy on Twitter treating about the poop in his toiled sending the dow tumbling to new lows
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>>62141613
Then it wouldn’t be going up and to the right. Going up and to the right is what the market does so at that point you couldn’t even call it the stock market. If that happens you’ll have bigger issues to care about other than whether the market is still the market.
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>>62141633
By my estimation Trump's tweets have maximum impact annually, with aftershocks getting progressively weaker over approximately two months. So to take advantage of the next Trump dump you have to predict what sector he will disrupt next. Also, it most likely won't work a second time, so tech tariffs and oil are off the table for the remainder of his term.
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>>62141632
Still higher than many European countries. Only reason ”people” care is because Japan isn’t also replacing themselves at the same time which is what the experts that are so concerned demand
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>>62141639
Normal people don't care about Japan's fertility rates. It's just the internet and places like 4chan. Full of weebs that grew up obsessed with le wholesome Japan.

Internet is not the real world.
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>>62141638
He's going to nuke the golf sector next. I'm 100% sure of it. Get your shorts on.
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>>62141632
dont make me go genghis khan on the nips bro! dont make me do it bro!
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>>62141601
Put all of your funds into btc, make them throw a framed goatse picture with the seed phrase engraved on the back into a landfill after you die, then have the executor inform your family members about it.
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>>62141641
Normal people are cattle, of course they don´t care about anything outside of sloppa and cooma.
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>>62141595
SIX-WHAT?
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>>62141643
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>>62141648
looks ugly
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>>62141650
Your mom looks ugly.
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>>62141648
>>62141650
Yeah, the facial proportions are a bit fucked
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BIG AMD MONSTER DILDO IN PRE CUM MARKET
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>>62141582
god i love coffee
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>>62141638
According to my estimations we will expect oil to go up sooner than expected because I don't think Iran likes trump setting the pace. Last time they let that happen, trump took a break and then sent the jews in for massive airstrikes. If you stay on the back foot and do a ceasefire whenever trump tells you to you become the biggest cucks on the planet. Cucking to trump is dumb, it's very clear that he understands overwhelming force and aggression, he doesn't understand negotiations.
Iran's performance has been improving the more negotiators trump and Israel kill.
Tldr:I expect Iran to hit hard soon, completely unprovoked, probably commit some warcrimes of their own, they look like cucks when they america and israel do all the war crimes.
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>>62141661
Why does trump love Israel? Because they go in without asking for permission. They're aggressive, violent and take the initiative.
He likes israel because they'd shoot first instead of sitting at the negotiating table.

If you can't understand republicans and israeli mindsets then you are a dumb goy.
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I am debating whether or not to sell my index fund and keep the savings I made, for when the inevitable crash happens
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>>62141666
Sell right now bro. I'm 100% sure Iran will not sit back and wait 2 more weeks for a jewish airstrike to kill a thousand civilians for no reason.
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Oil is spiking again
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>MLI recovery in a couple of months
based
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>accept the ceasefire or I will bomb you into the stone age
>2 weeks ceasefire, DEAL or DESTRUCTION
>ok it's 15 days
>I'm also gonna block your ships
>use different port to bypass
>guys, the ceasefire is running out and I'm militarily ready, not in the mood to extend ceasefire, I WARN YOU!
>extends ceasefire one day for no reason except oil pumping $4
>I SWEAR IT wAS PAKISTAN'S IDEA
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>>62141664
Trump and Bessent are alchemist and I say this unironically. They will maintain oil prices. Just forget about that trade. It's over
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>>62141676
If using a different port to bypass the strait were effective everyone would be doing it
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OIL
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>>62141681
now that was retarded
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>>62141685
no you. idk why I even replied your whole post reads like a 12 year old wrote it
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> futures
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>>62141676
If Don wanted to pump oil he could've made some threats again or start bombing.

There doesn't appear to be any progress, so it looks more like stalling for an invasion/military action, otherwise they'd probably just start bombing again. Either way it's fairly bearish towards a resolution.
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>>62141693
did he died?
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>>62141622
>just accept the clown market
you were bullied at school haven’t you bud, no one can repair that chocolate starfish of yours but you have to realise that it’s called a free market for a reason. The first step is admitting u have a problem and investing into N100
>rapeseed rapes oil
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>>62141698
>so it looks more like stalling for an invasion/military action,
Exactly and Iran are cucks if they let americans prepare for this.
Iran gains zero moral ground among the power havers by letting america be the bad guy.
Europeans, gcc, china, russia, asia, nobody will change their opinion on Iran if Iran waits like a sitting duck and gets warcrimed over and over.
I'm expecting things to accelerate today or tomorrow.
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>>62141667
Iran isn't going to attack anyone unless they're actively getting bombed.
The gamble now is if and when Israel starts bombing again.
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>>62141687
You're the retard who replied and doesn't know geography on top
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So I forget... do we buy oil on Wednesday and sell on Friday or buy on Friday and sell on Monday? This shit is mind numbing.
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You dumb goycattle better sell while you can still afford to put a cardboard box over yourheads.
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>>62141712
I don't need to know anything to know you're mentally ill
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>>62141719
retarded
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>>62141722
meds schizo
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>>62141713
The weekend trade is easy if you're a high IQ individual and can use hyperliquid. OIL crashes hard. Very hard. And the rest pumps. When axios and walter bloomberg stop their massive posting and the brutal movement stops. You long oil and short what cannot be mentioned. Then, you close your trades on sunday before the futures market open
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>>62141723
Where's Iran?
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>>62141670
UKMTO is reporting a attack on shipping in the straights guessing thats why
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>>62141727
straits*
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>>62141727
Thank you
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>>62141726
America closed all Iran ports. You need a map because you're a nutcase
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Bought Equinor, Aker BP, and a broad energy ETF at the open this morning. Already pays up.
This shit is not resolving anytime soon, and any additional day of closure will print me some money.
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>>62141731
lmao https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/iran-evades-trump-naval-blockade-165743676.html
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>>62141730
ok they just attacked another two
https://xcancel.com/Osinttechnical/status/2046863666922783097#m
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>>62141734
>routinely getting your ships, crew and everything on board taken as spoils of war
This will end well for them
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>>62141724
Thanks anon
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David Axios and David Bloomberg know they still need to work this morning right? Futes are green but we aren't punching past ATH yet. not good
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>>62141665
>Why does trump love Israel?
They have trump grabbed by the pussy
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>>62141639
> Still higher than many European countries
I expected it to be completely false, but it's somewhat true:
The only European countries with lower birthrates are Ukraine, Andorra, Malta, Italy, Spain and Lithuania
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Axios news runs out of Virginia, most obvious glownigger company lol
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>>62141743
He's not being blackmailed.
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Don't care still green (dcsg)
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Seriously, I swear 2 years ago you basically never hard of David Axios. I know they were funded way before, but basically they were a non-factor. And now somehow they're fucking everywhere.
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>>62141724
Are you saying my boy Waltuh has any impact on the market except for just posting the news very fast?
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>>62141700
NO
is right
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>>62141670
Wouldn't call a ~1,5% increase in crude a spike
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wheat
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>>62141754
I just know that when I see that guy mass posting, oil goes down and the rest goes up.
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>>62141709
Well, for Iran it's kind of damned if you do, damned if you don't. I'm not sure about the efficacy of military action, since if invasion were to happen, it's going to happen regardless of whether Iran starts to bomb again. In this scenario it would make absolute sense to continue the ceasefire for US as it's pretty much a win-win. Either they get to prepare in peace or they get to play the good guy that didn't want to escalate.

While the strait of Hormuz may be the focal point and main leverage, I'm not sure that Iran will have that much leg to stand on, at least long term. I don't think that the idea of a long-term control with tolls is gonna fly internationally either way, so I wouldn't consider it a reasonable goal for Iran, so I think that the goal here is for Israel and USA to take enriched Uranium and to neuter Iran's overall capacity to create nuclear weapons, which is going to be pretty tough to force out either way, but I don't see Israel backing out without that being achieved.

Currently everyone's been pretty much been waiting for USA to resolve the strait situation, especially since no one was informed about Epstein's Fury beforehand, so it's a needlesly tough situation nations were put into, but I suspect that one of the likely outcomes is for everyone to see that USA&Israel fucked up and have no way of opening the strait, so they'll start meddling in to make Iran&USA open the strait, to which I have no clue how it'll develop. My idea was for non-USA and Israel nations to be free to use the strait, but that would pretty much make Iran lose all leverage.

Either way it looks like Don got conned by Israel to get into something he wasn't ready for.
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futes
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>>62141763
>they get to play the good guy that didn't want to escalate.
Will that work on europe? Or on getting more allies? Nope
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>bears pretending something is gonna happen again
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>>62141767
No one gives a shit about Europe and I say this as a European. We've had chances to become relevant and wasted every single one.
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>>62141772
europe literally ruled the world a century ago
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>>62141773
we wuz empires and shiet
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>>62141773
Keyword there being "ruled"(past tense)
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I need oil to pump. Can someone do something?
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>>62141779
Be patient. They'll do every trick in the book to let it stay at 90, but that won't matter in the long run.
https://www.hfir.com/p/wctw-the-oil-market-breaking-point-eab
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>>62141779
ask another boat to try to sneak through the hormussy
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>>62141781
*Ahem*
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Oil and stocks are up. It's a miracle
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>le Iran can't export oil anymore, they'll run out of money
I think a bit of education is needed. Contrarily to popular beliefs and fake assessments, Iran is actually a quite diversified economy. One might say they're a service economy, even.
Oil exports being blocked barely makes a dent to them.
They can —and will— enjoy this comfy blockade while not being bombed in the meantime. They'll also crack up the popcorn while watching the Gulf state economies doing worse than them and the G20 economies closing store like it's Covid again.
They have zero incentive to change the situation. They somehow achieved the ideal position. So from now, it's either the world closing store, or US starting back the war. There's zero in-between.
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heh
nothing happened huh
you thought there was a war? guess not boss
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>>62141801
Don't forget about the bitcoin benchod
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>>62141805
Aaaaaand we dump
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>>62141738
what are we looking at here
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Lose money, get homeless. You deserve this.
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>>62141811
a man
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>>62141805
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>>62141595
holy sh*
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>>62141813
Can and I get nude Tayne?
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>>62141814
I believe you are correct, that is a nasty axe job grrroooosss
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>this entire market
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>>62141811
That nicely manicured lawn. Great for grilling.
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so we won the war right...no more having to worry about war volatility
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>>62141822
Wtf does that means?
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Let brent go over 100, stop manipulating that shit aaaaaaaaa
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>>62141825
>Iran has just seized to tankers and for the first time in the war brought them to Iranian ports
Uhhhh
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>>62141830
huh... what? source ?
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>oil up
>stocks up
what is this talmudic magic?
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Bros honestly soxl at 102????? THIS SHIT ALMOST DOUBLED IN 10 DAYS
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>>62141772
Well, how would you want Europe to react? Start bombing Iran alongside with USA, just because USA decided to do? After USA pulled out of the Iran nuclear deal prematurely?
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Ceasefire extended on upbeat futures
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>>62141836
Imagine the prices of stocks if oil didn't go up, we'd be MOONing.
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>>62141753
David Axios is the new David Reuters.
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>>62141836
What part of those who bless Israel will be blessed did you not understand?
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>>62141835
cant post the fucking telegram link direct from them shit fucking sight
https://xcancel.com/sentdefender/status/2046892746397438328#m
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>>62141850
i think it will let me post the linktree for the IRGC-N affiliated accounts https://zil.ink/warmessage_ir
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>>62141804
It’s 23%. Not sure where you got that. The collapse of the Iranian real has a lot to do with their oil exports and for that to happen, its certainly more than 5% of their GDP.
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>>62141823
not sure how anyone can see the lawn with that huge axe would right in front of the camera
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>soxl has x10 in a year
Imagine if I wasn't a pussy AAAAAAAAA
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insane both the MSC Francesca and Epaminondas have their trackers still on you can see them getting towed to the coast of iran
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>>62141868
Priced in. Oil to $80 and stocks go up. Simple as
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Paper oil and real oil will converge but which one will adjust for the other?
When this was happening to gold and silver, it was the paper market which won, real prices came down to match the paper market.

What will it be for oil? Will real oil prices come down to match 80 dollars a barrel?
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>>62141868
so this is irans response to the boardings of their tankers, think ships are even less likely to try and run the gauntlet now
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eurosmg tickers
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>>62141875
That's a lie. Right now silver prices have insane premiums, aka real price is higher than paper. There has not been a convergence yet.
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>100+ trades
>profit: $5.03
it's all so tiresome bros
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>>62141804
>>62141857
yeah those numbers are off, and don't forget the straight is closed for ALL shipping from Iran, not just oil exports but all other exports as well
Here are the real numbers:
Almost 90 per cent of Iran’s crude exports, and about 80 per cent of its total exports, depend on the transit through Hormuz. Around 25 per cent of Iranian GDP and 60 per cent of government revenues depend completely on having the Strait open.
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>>62141875
Physical price will win, OIL is more used than silver or gold. This is where the faggots manipulating it are assuming its "gonna match paper" it won't.

Technically, physical silver was at a 20$-30$ premium, huge gap in price with China and other parts of the world for physical, but paper silver was not meeting that price in the west and was 20-30 lower, and that gap closed to match paper in the end before it giga dumped.

the longer they suppress, the more violent the outcome will be, but the violent outcome probably will only last 1 day - 2 days max at the peak of the price.

They're actually using gold and silver to suppress OIL rigt now with trades besides shorting oil. Gold is literally a inverse of OIL, so is silver.
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>>62141881
There has always been premiums on physical silver. Its just they are higher now due to "volatility" and are closer to real price now.
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>Third ship attacked in strait of Hormuz
A third ship has been attacked in the strait of Hormuz, the BBC has reported.

>Maritime intelligence company Vanguard told BBC Verify that the ship was targeted about 6 nautical miles off the coast of Iran. Vanguard said the vessel was hailed by the Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) and “instructed to drop anchor”.

>The ship has reported “damage to the hull and accommodation”.

>Iran seizes two ships in strait of Hormuz - Just In

>Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) navy has seized two ships in the strait of Hormuz, according to Iran’s semi-official Tasnim news agency.

>The ships were identified as MSC Francesca and Epaminondas, which were reportedly directed to Iranian shores after they were “operating without the required authorisation and for manipulating navigation systems”.

>The IRGC was quoted as saying: “Disrupting order and safety in the strait of Hormuz is our red line.”

OIL BAGGIES, YOUR TIME MIGHT HAVE COOM BACK.
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>>62141895
priced in
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>>62141891
I am invested in both oil and silver, and I feel like I have schizophrenia, kek.
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so we've just got an indefinite ceasefire now?

not even any more taco bounces as he's not even given a deadline this time?
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>>62141895
Forever war and forever closed pool has been priced in or ignored
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>>62141891
The outcome was a gigadump for silver so paper won.
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>>62141895
Get some new material
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>>62141902
Yep its back to AI and pretending its not a bubble
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Its all vanity
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looks better than the US military parade
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>>62141915
The same one that was propped up by Saudi and other Gulf states money that is literally evaporating as we speak, and for which what's left will be put to use to rebuild infrastructures and buy interceptors?
Oh boy.
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vibes tell me today is gonna be a nothing kind of day
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>>62141925
these people will cheer us when we topple the rigiem
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>Palantir inks $300 million deal with USDA to safeguard food supply

Billions will die.
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>>62141934
Agree
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>>62141929
cope baggie
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>>62141929
Lets get specific here. The current issue with AI and the industry's current transition point is realizing the high demand is only there because everything is being sold at a loss for free. It turns out AI is expensive. Even the pro tiers of $200-$300 a month aren't profitable.

Which means if companies actually want it to be profitable they are going to have to start charging $5000+ a year for its use. Which would make the demand try up comically fast.

The big issue with AI is that its a massive luxury item being sold en mass at a loss like a cheap commodity and everyone is either hoping it because magically cheaper (as energy prices spike kek) or magically becomes so useful the average person would spend the equivalent to a small car each year to use
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>>62141943
>The big issue with AI is that its a massive luxury item being sold en mass at a loss like a cheap commodity
That's everything though. Amazon ran at a loss until recently to gain market share
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>>62141943
>he thought ai was for the consumers
o no no no
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>>62141935
>when
big X
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>>62141943
lol AI is cheap to run if you use open models, I run Gemma on my PC, it doesn't cost anything at all to run, if you look at openrouter costs they are almost certainly not running below cost.

The big AI companies are probably not losing money on inference cost, it's the training if new models that's expensive.
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>>62141947
Thats the recent cope pivot yes
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Any copytraders in here? What's your experience?
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>>62141937
To do what, exactly? Is their gay ai going to somehow start printing food?
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Smiggers BX earnings tomorrow had me terrified, hold me.
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why oil aint dumping?
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>>62141935
most literate american
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>>62141959
strait status?
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>>62141959
why would it?
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>>62141959
Strait is closed. The question is: why isn't oil mooning?
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>>62141967
Who's going to buy (refine) it?



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