Thread for discussing coffee and coffee related topics.Entry level editionIf you're new and confused start here: https://pastebin.com/UEzwuyLzIf you're old and confused how many clicks?Previous thread: >>20660573
>>20682657PISSOUTMYASS
>>20682709MISTONMYBEANS
>>20682759RUSTONMY BURRS
>>20682657That grinder looks like it would be owned by a vegan
>family gifting me several kilos of coffee without a specified roast date and a ceramic burr grinderI don't know, why do they do this, do they not respect me? do they hate me? I haven't done anything to wrong them.
>>20682657>slaps your girls ass
>>20683178My only girl is me
GM :)
>>20682898>owned by a vegan>looks like a diseased uterusnailed it
>>20683182>bites lip
>>20682766DARKNESSIMPRISONING MEALL THAT I SEE
just got a real good crack from my spine, think I prefer this over cumming.
Made a bunch of simply syrup to up my iced coffee game, already got cream, some skimmed milk powder and will get milk later tonight (hopefully).Not sure how I can improve upon it now other than vanilla extract or a nice, vanilla whey powder.
>>20683211GN :)
had coffee this morning
>>20682898Vegans are known for owning bespoke German industrial equipment?
New beens'n'cuppa brethren, medium roasted natty abyssinian moka Harrar Long Berry.>Tasting notes: Fine acidity, strong and full-bodied, sweet and chocolatey.>Creator of the lineage of all arabicas, whose exotic flavour makes it a noble representative of the "Mokas", achieving a biting taste.>This coffee takes its name from Harrar (or Harar Jugol) which is a village in the north of the Orimia region, where this coffee is actually grown.>The green coffee beans are obtained by natural dry processing, whereby the beans are separated from the cherry by hand after drying.First sip the syrupy coffee comes forward with the chocolatiness then you perceive some blueberrieness. The lingering aftertaste is medium lasting. Really tasty and balanced sip even though it was a tad long (55ml). Curious to see how flavour evolves as a tighter pull.>>20683211Bot?
>>20683869>says moka>didnt use a mokashame
Last drops came out of the V60 a little after three minutes, which is probably the longest it should take. But it tastes kind of underextracted. Maybe next time I'll try a finer grind and less water.
>>20683877I will now commit sudoku.
>>20683869sounds fuckin delectable>>20683466>simply syruplolconsider almond extract>>20684042uneven extraction can taste like underextraction do what you will
is onyx light or medium?
>>20685019you never know until you open the bag
>>20685026it looks like goffee
>>20685027
>>206850313 goffees?
>>20685019Depends on what you order. They've got shit all across the spectrum.
>>20685105their single origin stuff
>>20685105>They've got shit all across the spectrum.I always shit all across the spectrum after my first coffee of the morning
>at local farmers market>some guy selling beenz for vets or some shit>ask him about them>try a free sample>kinda weak but maybe its medium roast>buy a pack of dark roast whole beans>grind em up later>taste it>weak stillim starting to think you have no choice but to get foreign beans if you want them to be even somewhat strong
>>20685455>go to farmers market>look inside>no farmers
excited to drink more coffee in the morning
>>20685601i look like this and say this
>>20685455Weak in what way? Try using a greater amount of coffee for the same amount of water next time.
>>20685772i literally always use way more beans than i need for maximum robustness, its weak shitthe flavor isnt strong at all, it tastes like hot water. i dont know if people dislike bitterness in their coffee but i love it and that shit aint bitter at all
>>20683466Split, new or used, vanilla beans tucked into your sugar jar makes it quite vanilla flavored and perfect for coffee. Also, raw sugar is something I keep on hand for sprinkling on baked goods before going into the oven, and it makes the coffee better, as well.Milk powder does nothing good. Just keep a quart or more of half n half just for your coffee (and cooking purposes). Half n half is ultra pastuerized, so even after opening, it'll go weeks when only using a couple tablespoons at a time. Use leftovers for a cream scone recipe, or a pan sauce like white gravy. >>20686211what is your brew method? My parents use electric percolators by choice and every couple of years she has to replace it when the heating element goes on the fritz and the coffee gets weak.
>>20686232Anon thats the gayest thing I've ever read.
>>20686510Then read more.
>>20686211If you're using french press, or even a pot on the stovetop, let it sit and steep at least 10 minutes before you plunge and pour yourself a cup.
>>20686894>plungengmi
>>20683466Unrefined cane sugar and a small pinch of salt elevates iced coffee like you wouldn't believe. Also, if I'm adding dairy, I prefer a splash of whole milk over the ice for some heterogeneity. Half and half is also quite nice.
>>20686899...but I've already made my coffee, Anon.
>start drinking coffee>realize if you drink it black it needs to be a certain quality>buy not very expensive but better quality than the $1 a pound nail polish remover my dad buys from lidl>marries my coffee with his ash tray wasteSecond time in a row hes done this, I'm so mad
>>20687153did you try asking him nicely not to do that
>>20687153>marries my coffeehuh?
>>20687153>if you drink it black it needs to be a certain qualityYou just don't like coffee. Maybe try apple juice instead.
>>20687225based coffee enjoyer
8 amsaturdayburundinew music:)
>>20686232>what is your brew methodgrind the beens and throw em in the ol ninja coffee makerim not a fancy man, i just want some flavorful coffee.
>>20687164He's kinda retarded, ever since he retired I think he'd getting dementiaHe'll do things after being told not to and say he forgot or denies he even did it>cast iron in the sink twice>brillo on the stainless steel cook top three times>plastic nob pops off the washing machine so he takes the entire control panel apart for no reason with no idea how to reassemble it>overfills the machine all the time
>>20687426Use more coffee, nigga.
>>20687441i promise you i use more than enough for the 10 oz cups i make
>>20687427Please be understanding of your parents in their old age, Anon. At a certain point, humans revert to a child-like state of mind.
>>20687449Yeah? How much is that Mister Big Man?Should be 22g - 28g ground coffee for 10oz finished coffee.
>>20687451Well we've told him he needs to get a hobby and get out of the house, but he's potatomaxxing ever since he stopped going to workMy grandpa was sharp in his 90s, he did the puzzles in the paper every day. He didn't start getting old until he lost his driver's license and couldn't leave the house anymore
>>20687461you made me get up and check you cockfuckerpic related is the avg amount of beens i use (those are the shitty weak ones in the pic)now im mad that im wasting beans
Preferences for making large batches of coffee - let's say for 8 people? I find I am having to use my chemex and French press. People seem to pour much larger coffees than I typically would, but are then surprised by how strong the coffee is.
>>20687514
>>20687514you should be controlling the cups
>>20687482Damn bruh... and it's still 'weak'?
>>20687643im not at all exaggerating when i compare it to hot water. its a disgrace
>>20686510Thats all good advice
>>20687648show us how you brew
>>20687707i literally just grind the beans and stick em into pic related with a filter. select 10 oz and it makes my shit
>>20687741grim
>>20687800i aint a picky man, all i need is good beenz to be happy
>>20687811>i aint a picky manclearly you areyou would get better and stronger coffee using a french press using the hoffmann method
>>20687741Same. Sometimes just the simple things are good enough.
huh, grinder? what are ya gay?
>>20687920happy pride month
So I ventured out to the Kroger Marketplace to find this Nescafe Gold Espresso and obtained it. No luck with the malt extract.I've made an Americano with it and it is quite nice.
>>20687974If that is the same as what is sold here in Australia as "Short Black," it's one of the better instants if you have to drink instant.
I want to try James Hoffman's one-cup V60 recipe:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1oB1oDrDkHMHe's using a light roast in that video and I need to adapt it to my medium-roast beans. Can I simply reduce the water temperature to 90-95°C and use a slightly coarser grind, leaving everything else the same?
>>20688285yeah p much
>>20687470>>20687427thats rough, anoni applaud your patience
>>20688285Probably, but do it on the numbers and taste, and adjust if it needs it.
i upgraded my grinder a while ago and i'm considering gifting my old manual grinder to someone who's casually interested in goffee.but i want to know, will just giving him the grinder make any difference to his coffee experience or will he need fresh beans too? like if i leave him to his own devices and he uses the grinder on a bag of storebought lavazza beans, will that make any difference or nah. i don't need the old grinder (1zpresso q2) but i'd rather keep it as a backup instead of give it to someone who might not get anything out of it
>>20688545freshly ground bad beans is always better than pre ground bad beansas long as you make sure the grinder is set up right when you give it to him and tell him not to fuck with the grind size then it should be fineyou could also just give it as a loan, like "hey i had this old grinder and i thought you might be interested in trying it out for a month or so and if you dont like it then you can just give it back"
>>20688558ah, okay. thank you and that's a good idea. he's a zoomer that's like 10 years younger than me and used to work as a starbucks barista so his interest might be ephemeral. i'll ask how he makes his coffee and adjust it to the appropriate general area. most people here do either pods or moka pot and acceptable moka pot grind size range is fairly forgiving
>>20688285Lowering temp to ~95C is the way to go for medium roast pourover. I tried messing with other parameters and none of them made for a better cuppa; if you mess with the grind be subtle about it.
>>20688735Do you keep the kettle warning up in between pours to keep the same temp?
>>20688777Never tried; I do notice my kettle loses ~12 degrees by the time pourover's done, but there's so little time between individual pours idk how you would manage it. Making coffee this way is already a bit of a stressful time crunch.
>>20682657>man who only knows how to make bdsm sex toys gets first job as espresso machine engineer
When I first got my DF64, I was usually grinding around a ‘12’ for my espresso. Now I’m usually grinding around a ‘7’. Is the burr calibration off or is it just a matter of me getting better at pulling shots and using different beans
>>20688930seasoned
>>20688920>~12 degreesFahrenheit right?>Making coffee this way is already a bit of a stressful time crunch.I've started making nip iced v60 and sure is a stressful time crunch.
>>20688930I still grind around 12, but I do +-2 adjustment when I use diff beans. Never went that fine
Does a headache for a few seconds on top-left while drinking a side effect from caffeine?
What's the difference between $200, $1000 and $3000 espresso machines?
>>20689149$800 and $2000
>>20689155
>>20689149Stability. Repeatability. The $200 machine won't be temp accurate and will likely be a 15bar pressurized basket machine for pre-ground.
i only need 6bar
are these things a meme? want to try making cold brew and am going to need a large amount of filtered water
>>2068939140 gal per filter is going to burn a hole in your wallet quickly. Look into gravity fed filters like berkey or proone. I go through about 3 gal a day with my berkey. If you're wanting to actually tweak your water for specific brewing just get a distiller and some powders.
>>20689391the ones that are certified in removing more than odor substances are great if your water requires it. i have the pur+ filter/pitcher, its slow but works.
>>20689149https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HIGdYy5of4https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0kQ5WqjcU8https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHz2rU_xK3g
>>20682657Why does this coffee grinder look like a two-headed Tom Servo with a massive cock?
>>20689772OP is a faggot
>>20689772Its a bag grinder converted over to be able to single dose two different beans. Like when kahn and hank built the deluxe robot grill.
There's no such thing as over-extraction. It's like saying you're making too much money.I love when the coffee is so strong I gain consciousness all over again.
>>20689898guess there is no such thing as over cooked too
i got bullied for my ninja machine earlier so i decided to grab a french press from goodwill and try it you guys' wayis this a normal amount of beens to scoop off the top? seems like a lot like maybe i didnt grind them enough30g beens to 500ml water btw
>>20690336
>>20690336what the fuck am i looking at?do you not have a grinder?https://youtu.be/st571DYYTR8?feature=shared&t=97
back in my day, the only beans people cared about were these light-roasted ethiopian beans with bright, acidic flavors. they were like little rocks, really hard to grind. it was the style at the time.
>>20690355they used to call them "blueberry bombs"
>>20690347i did grind them, im just used to grinding them to basically powder so i pulsed until it looked about rightguess i fucked up lmao
>>20690381>pulsedanon... please dont tell me you have a blade "grinder"
i don't like hoffmeme's french press technique it doesn't taste satisfying and is annoying to do i'm not doing the stupid 2 spoon scoop every time i want a fuckin cuppa cobbie
>>20690392yes
>>20690405well there's your problem
>>20690410if i still care enough about this tomorrow to dig deeper what do you recommend
>>20690430Kingrinder p2 or k6.
>>20690463big asking price for a single use appliance
>>20690336Don't listen to the elitists. Coffee is one of the things people get way too autistic about. Don't do the scoop thing, Hoffmeme was overstepping, and the autists ITT take his advice way to seriously. To brew strong coffee in a french press:>1:8 - 1:12 coffee:water ratio by weight>place ground coffee into french press (anything from medium to coarse grind size)>hot water in (temperature dependent on roast level, 80C to 97C)>stir vigorously for 1 - 2 minutes >lid on, don't plunge, let steep for at least 10 minutes>after 10 minutes, slowly plunge to the halfway point and pour yourself a cupFor the record, your drip machine was probably fine for your purposes, but good on you for diversifying. A french press from the thrift store is a great bargain.
>>20690482that guy is retardedyou clearly arent the kind of person to manually grind your coffeeget a Baratza Encoreits literally retard proofdurablegood quality for the pricevery popular among normiesvery easy to maintaineasy to find replacement partseasy to repaircould probably find a used one that is either perfectly fine or needs minor/cheap repairwill probably last a lifetimeinfinitely better than a blade grinderhuge amount of guides for basically anything you would want to do with the grinder, how to repair, maintain, use, clean.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gm6UfD9qSc
>>20690381>>20690430>>20690482Blade grinder is fine for your purposes. If you're going to get a handgrinder, I advise against the Kingrinder P-series. Although, if you're going to spend extra money to improve your coffee experience, I'd recommend spending it on fresher beans and a water filtration system before you go spending on a grinder or a 'nicer' machine. People gearfag way to hard and neglect the basics.
>>20690512I thought burr grinders were objectively a huge improvement over blade grinders in terms of flavor
>>20690497>good quality for the priceJust say you don't know what you're talking about and move on.
>>20690519They are and its not even close.
>>20690497Hand grinding is easy and enjoyable. It doesn't take much time and effort, and takes zero counter space. For 70% the price of a Baratza Encore, a K6 will bring the end user greater satisfaction.
>>20690497>you clearly arent the kind of person to manually grind your coffeeHe's the kind of retard who went out and bought a french press because he got made fun of on 4chan. Thats like, the prime demographic for impulse grinder purchasers.>1gm6UfD9qSc>Prepandemic grinder advice>ngmi
>>20690540>>20690525>>20690521cope and seethehes not going to use your meme garbagerope or fuck off
>>20690519Yes, that's completely correct. But if the choice is between old stale beans through a nice burr grinder, and high-quality fresh beans through a blade grinder, the fresh beans win. Immersion brewing (french press) is particularly forgiving of poor grind quality. My point was: you should spend money on tastier ingredients before you spend money on nicer gear. It's like listening to mp3 youtube rips through $1000 headphones. I'd much rather listen to higher quality files through $100 headphones.
>>20690542Does hoffmeme have any grinder advice more recent than 2017?>https://youtu.be/EPbVUR6Y83kFancy that.
clearly the coffee discourse goes deeper than i thoughti think ill just go back to the coffee machine
>>20690548P-series is POOP.
>>20690605All you need to know is fresher beans = tastier coffee.
>>20690625Good coffee only starts with Slayer machines.
What's does 4chan think of gemilai espresso machines? I am moving from America to the phillipines so getting a mainstream German or Italian built espresso machine not possible without very expensive shipping probly. These are I believe Chinese made machines but with a Italian ULKA pimps (supposedly good quality). They are also incredibly cheap for what the features are and they are all available throughout the phillipines. The prices are in Filipino pesos. $1 = 58 pesos. I'm talking dual boiler with PID for $410..almost too good to be true. I will be purchasing one when I move. Prices seem to make sense because phillipines is a poor country and mostly everything that isn't an imported western brand is incredibly cheap.
Coof.>>20691118I'd just fly down with a flair58 desu.https://flairespresso.com/product/flair-58-hard-travel-case/
Just Slayer modded my Breville Dual Boiler bros. I'm nearing the endgame of amateur coffee autism.
>>20692032Rotary pump next?https://espressoaf.com/manufacturers/breville/rotary.html
Cobbee.
>normies pay for dehyrdrated pods>grinding is 'fancy' >bottomless laziness and stupidity is agressively defended>Offensively having any standards is snobbery
>>20691118Kapeng Barako
>>20692115woahcafe
>>20692032Fuck yeah - how hard was the mod? I've been putting off doing it.
>>20691118Why the fuck would you move to the Philippines?
>>20693668Because I can support myself my wife and our child off 2000$ a month. And it's a tropical island where it's never cold.
>>20689149>$200Meme-tier w/ pressurized portafilter, usually unpleasant to look at. Can be made to produce good espresso with enough elbow grease.>$800-1000. Midrange-ish. You can pull good shots with these. Usually ugly. You need to spend about $400 on a grinder though, once you are out of the pressurized portafilter range.>$1000-2000. Nice range. Lots of good machines to choose from. Excellent temperature stability, beautiful aesthetics, usually extremely durable. >$2000-$3000. Gettings into the very nice level of prosumer machines. If taken care of, these machines will last decades. Mine is in this range, from 2011 and still going very strong. I expect it to last another decade or two. Usually you would expect a high powered steam wand, and usually hot water wand at this price point as well. Also you expect to see PID controllers at this point.>$3000 an up. Really no point to this, you aren't getting better coffee.
Coffbros.. does anyone here drink coffee (non-decaf) at night/before bed? The common wisdom it's a really bad idea because it's a stimulant, but I'm curious if anyone does it anyway, and how you feel. Does it noticeably mess with your sleep?
baristafag here. working on starting my own business. dialed in my recently acquired fiorenzato f64 evo xgi pro today, no pictures because i set it up at someone else's shop. i get to break it in and figure out its optimal usage for my needs, shop owner gets a demo to see if he wants his own. will put it through a full shift tomorrow.and well it beats the pants off of the poor battered mazzer luigi they have at the shop. relegating that one to decaf while my grinder is on deck.
>>20694546Decaf drinkers want high quality grinds too, dammit
>>20687514serious answer, melitta pour overwhat a retard like me does answer: giant french presshttps://landgrovecoffee.com/products/detonator-french-press
>>20694546>fiorenzato f64 evo xgi prohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_V_Y6OTNrc
>>20694551they were just using a bunn mill turned to turkish for decaf and spooning it into the portafilter, the mazzer is a major upgrade
>>20694555grim.
>>20694554yes, that onei was also researching a mahlkonig grind by weight but decided on the fiorenzato
>>20694242in many places, once you're into the $1500+ range you can also get more value out of servicing machines (either yourself or calling a local tech) rather than replacing them
>>20694555Really not happy with this
>>20694565>but decided on the fiorenzatoWhat was the deciding factor?
>>20694545I try not to make anything past 11pm, but my sleep is fucked regardless.>>20694546>mazzer luigi Assuming you're talking about an old superjolly. That fiorenzato is v e r y similar. Replaced the doser with electronic gbw and a touch screen, but they're still high fines italian espresso burrs. Mazzer probably just needs a new set and some shims. ~$50 and an hour of time.>>20694565>mahlkonigShould have gotten an e80.
>>20694598i found a very relevant testimonial on the mahlkonig from someone in my situation, moving it frequently and using it in less than perfect environments. it had problems with the scale tare freaking out shortly into a shift even with frequent calibration, and when it did the software locked out all grind function, even manual hold the button and eyeball it. that and their experience with mahlkonig commercial put me on the fiorenzato
>>20694607the grind itself is really a secondary concern. the fiorenzato is very obviously more robust and overbuilt than the mazzer. the seating and release system of the burrs, the mechanism on the grind dial, the active cooling. these matter much more for selling coffee than particular opinions on grind profile. and the grind by weight is really a crucial function for me for one-man productivity.
>>20694608>moving it frequently and using it in less than perfect environmentsPlease tell me you're going the Piaggio Ape route?
>>20694632One man shop with focus on utmost quality, or one man shop with focus on high volume sales. I know where I'd rather go.t. roasternon lazily drafting out plans for a coffeevan conversion
>>20694651if you ever get high volume sales, heat buildup, ticket depth and other stresses will compromise your quality assurance to a larger degree than the difference between your first pull vs my first pull
>>20694660>ticket depthWhat's that?
>>20694660Sounds like you'd be better off serving commercial nespresso.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t13h1KN7-NU
>>20694677Queue length. How many orders stack up while he's working alone.
>>20694683i like doing this bullshit, even when i have severe concerns about the mental status of my customers
>>20694694
>>20694686Thanks. So it's sort of redundant, since he'd already said "high volume sales."
>>20694866Yeah he's a dumb wagie.
>>20694704REEE HE ISN'T HOMOGENIZING THE GROUNDS DISTRIBUTION WITH AN AGITATORTHAT TAMPER ISN'T CALIBRATED TO THE BREW TEMPERATUREHE DIDN'T EVEN PRE-WARM THE CUPS REEEEEE
>>20694545drank 270ml of filter last night30g coffee300g waterburundihad it at about 9pmfell asleep about 11pmgreat 8 hour sleepdidnt have time for a coffee this morning so i just grabbed 2 500ml monster zero ultra, finished both about an hour ago and im still pretty tired, gonna have a big coffee for lunch in a few hourshonestly i could fall asleep right now if i layed down
>>20694554post it...you know the one
>>20695291
>>20695298Wow...
You have a mechanical grinder right? How are ya gonna grind coffee when light go out forever?
>>20694636Where's the font wheels?
>>20695308don't need any
>>20695304mortar and pestle
>>20695298what girthy grinder?
Been drinking these two. The washed is offensively mediocre, but the natural is yummy.
koppee :)
>>20695696how u brewin em
had roast chicken and polenta for dinner :)too full for an after dinner coff
>>20695298literally me when I make coffee
I usually buy cheap pre-ground coffee for my moka pot but it's kinda shitty. How much better is using cheap coffee beans but with a manual grinder? Also want grinder should I go for?
>>20696523>How much better is using cheap coffee beans but with a manual grinder?probably 2x at least>Also want grinder should I go for?depends on your budget
>>20695298
>>20696529>depends on your budgetWhat's a good entry-level one, the bare minimum
>>20696542
>>20696557Should I get the kingrinder k6
>>20696557good christ above you people are autistic
>>20696571Probably. I was gonna say that but then decided just pos this. The coffee community census is that the k6 is like a Toyota Camry or Honda Civic of hand grinders. Best price to value/quality ratio.
>>20696571yescant go wrong with that onehttps://youtu.be/lvxH9XWRGTs?feature=shared&t=154if you never want another grinder then a k6 will be your first and last grinderit should last a "lifetime"
>>20696575What if I buy it and the coffee doesn't even taste good
costa rica las lajas natural from onyxbeautiful and deliciouswhich roasters have a similar profile? they often get florals, dark chocolate and fruits.
>>20696577it will taste betterobjectivelyfresh ground bad beans is ALWAYS better tasting than pre ground bad beans
>>20696573thats not even the full listalso its a few years old at this point
>>20696557>existance
>>20696582>some grinders are listed multiple timesit must be a joke
>>20696602>it must be a jokeread the notes belowk6 is on there twice but each have different burrssame with the k4
is the zp6 actually good?
>>20696609>read the notes belowmake me
>>20696616i did by making you read my comment
>>20696628>i didwrong>read the notes belowis where i stopped readinggood luck next time
>>20696613It's better than the first five that's for sure
>>20696632should i wait for the zp7 then?
>>20696637Nigga wait for the zp11
>>20696632zp3 was when it was still made well and cool faggots ruined it
>>20696577That's your fault. It's like alcohol..it's an acquired taste. Also you can adjust the grind setting..the brew time, water amount, heat level, ect ect. I brew espresso and drink it straight. I use a df64 gen2 with ssp hu burr, and a breville barista pro. I've been making espresso for less than 2 years. It took like 3-6onth before I found my groove and now I'm making espresso I really really enjoy but sometimes I still drink it and think this doesn't taste good...same way you drink a good whiskey and think this alcohol burns my throat or doesn't taste very good.. because it's alcohol at the end of the day. But I digress..it will and won't taste good. Read how to brew the best way and just take your time and be patient with it. Try different beans, different grind settings and maybe even brew methods. Grinder is the most important piece when it comes to brewing good coffee, aside from bean quality..and even still..any fresh ground and roasted beans brewed by hand is going to taste ten times better than any pre ground store beans with a drip machine..
>>20696275Clever, but I find that the Colombian actually tastes better as a normal pourover.
>>20696602Back when I made that US Amazon was the only place to get k4 and k6 at the cheaper price. It's mostly normalized now that they have wider distribution.>>20696581I guess I can update it now that the Italian retard has disappeared.
People say that Starbucks is bad, but I think Starbucks is the only major coffee chain in my country (UK) which offers brewed coffee as well as espresso-based coffee.Sure, some independent gourmet coffee place will offer better coffee for discerning palates, but if you just want a simple filter coffee which tastes alright, I think Starbucks is okay.
>>20696978Every time someone shits on Starbucks I assume they're a Folger's drinker out of a Mr. Coffee. No one with taste would waste their time shitting on Starbucks because the quality, or lack of, is assumed. It's ubiquitous. Only the most insecure, shit taste moron would feel the need to display their hatred for Starbucks, seeking affirmation or approval.
>>20694545I only drink decaf coffee after lunchtime. I try not to drink it in the evening though because it makes me get up and piss in the middle of my sleep.If I drink caffeinated coffee after lunchtime then I inevitably go to bed later, so I get less sleep.
Anyone have experience with those griddle-type coffee roasters that slowly turn the beans?
>>20695298The way they both play with the shaft..
>>20682657Motherfuckers I am OUT OF MILK
my kurasu might get here today...fushigidane...
>>20696978I would say that Starbucks is bad if you're buying their coffee directly. And that's largely just because you're paying way too much for what you get. But if you're looking to buy bags of coffee from them, they sell a pretty large selection for a fairly cheap amount of money
>>20697506Humans aren't meant to drink milk after infancy
>>20697506Oh no how else will you drink choccy milk?
>>20682657it looks like an angry robot with a dick
>>20697966thats not true>but but but lactose intolerance !!!!doesnt exist if you keep drinking milkit happens after you get breastfed and then stop consuming milk and then start consuming milk again but if you keep consuming it as part of your daily life your body just adapts to itbut then if later in life you stop consuming milk for a month or so and then start again your body will reject it>thats not tru-prove me wrong
>>20696818id recommend a high extraction brew for the colombian
>>20697966>Humans aren't meant to drink milk after infancyAnd yet we can, safely, cheaply and deliciously. What a time to be alive.
Coof
Koofno.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6uzXwEhPF4
What's the effect of pulling shots at higher than 9 bar? Say around 15 bar? Gemilai aka turin legato is a very affordable and seemingly quality machine but it has one big problem in my opinion, no opv and comes at 15 bar pressure out of the box. It's able to be modded but that requires power tools and extra parts..
>>20700946>What's the effect of pulling shots at higher than 9 bar? Say around 15 bar?garbage coffeeno coffee actually being brewed at 15 bar is good.
first coffee in 3 days
>>20700963Explain faggot
>>20701088>what if i cook my food at 1000c?>>it will be bad>EXPLAIN FAGGOT!???!?!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txWyLHnuuz0https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5U2od3JAIrcespresso is made to be brewed at 9 bar OR lower15 bar when brewing would just destroy the coffee, even if you used pre ground garbage from the grocery store and used a pressurized basket but hoon here is using the turin and seems to have no problemhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GggMlW6cmS8so maybe the turine "can" go to a maximum of 15 bar but can also do 9 bar no problem, idk.
>>20700560i bet that faggot lurks here to steal ideas
>>20701122Thanks nigger but I'm still skeptical
>>20701349>skepticalabout?
>>2070139115 bar completely ruining an espresso shot..?
>>20701434But fatso made a youtibe.
>>20701434well how about you go ahead and drink a 9 bar shot and then a 15 bar shot and report back with the results
>>20682657looks like a battletech mech, kek.
>>20701502i can only see Wat Tambori know its not really close at all but whatever
>>20701443Lol onyx guy
>>20701131that faggot for sure doesn't lurk /fit/
>>20701434Water needs a path through the coffee. Tamping creates a bed of tightly packed coffee giving some resistance to the flow of water. Blasting the fuck out of that bed with 15 bar compacts the bed of coffee and makes it harder for the water to flow evenly through the puck. Low pressure preinfusion mitigates this by letting the puck get hydrated before it gets slammed.
>>20701732also 15 bar while brewing will channel and will under extract
>>20701737Yes anon. I explained the mechanism behind channeling.
>>20701840if someone asks what happens when you press the gas pedal on a car they dont want you to describe the mechanics of what happens they want you to say "the car goes forward"this retard is asking why 15 bars of brew pressure would make bad coffee, do you really thinks he understands what the mechanics behind channeling is?everything you said is good and right but it doesnt really mean anything in the mind of a normiei simplified what you said.it would be better if you said what you said, then added what i said to the end and then said "which is bad" at the end of that.
>>20701732>>20701840Thank you for the explanation
>>20701852Do you think throwing out buzzwords without any context helps the guy?>how do cars work and how much horsepower should I be looking for?Combustion!
>>20697559What did you order anon-kun?
>>20702847Coffee.
>>20702847they've got a sampler set. Well, two, one for house blends and another for single origin. I'm very inexperienced with specialty coffee, so i went with the house blends because i tend to prefer more 'traditional' flavors to fruity ones. It's also basically my first time with beans roasted so freshly (got here a week after roast date), which is a huge deal to a lot of people, but i'm learning is also not a major factor for me. It's interesting how particular people get about their silly cherry seed waterBrewing in an aeropress for smoothness over brightness, the dark roast tastes a lot like one of those dark chocolate oranges that you break open. I paired the medium house blend with fajitas and for exactly one sip it tasted like nothing but straight nut (har har) and then only sweet berry flavors afterwards. fun stuff
>>20702998Based. I need to snag a few things from kurasu soon. How much was shipping to the states? Used to be like flatrate $20 2 day dhl.
>>20703063nta but i just checked and it was ~$20
>>20702998Ah I got that my first time, which was only last month. I really liked everything except the dark roast.
>shitty weather still fucking up coffee crops in Brazil and VietnamIt's over.
>drinking coffee from brazil or vietnamngmi
brazilian is great for blendingvietnamese is great if youre into burnt rubber
>>20703445Name a better combination than burnt rubber and condensed milk
>>20703515i confess i rather enjoy a guatemalan robusta ive roasted myself but only as one part out of four in blends i make for my moka potnever tried proper phin coffee tho
i had a coffee this morning(12 hours ago)it was good :)
testing
>>20704187Balmuda toaster?
>>20682657He's a big guy
Jesus christ...https://youtu.be/5-Ak01k0jF0
>thread devolved into shitty youtube spam
>NOOOOOOOO YOU CANT SHARE THE COFFEE RELATED YOUTUBE VIDEOS YOU ARE WATCHING!!!!!!!!!
>>20705013>youtube spam40 hours in between posts?
>>20704187prices for shit are just comical at this point
