What is the best Scotch under $50 and why is it Glendronach 12?
>>21109438Glen Moray 12 is also decent value.
This weekend's allocated list droppedProbably gonna pick up an EH Taylor and a Rare Character Single Barrel, everything else looks meh.
Was looking to pick up one of those Four Roses SBs that just dropped and noticed something odd going on with Total Wine pricing. The store closest to me had it listed at 89.99 when I was sure the MSRP was supposed to be around 50 bucks. So I switch stores and sure enough it's listed at MSRP. Does Total Wine play algorithmic fuck fuck games with their pricing?
>>21109904No idea, though I have always found it odd that their corporate headquarters is in a municipality that has no liquor sales outside of government run stores, so there aren't any Total wine's in the county their headquarters is located in. I live like 2 miles from their headquarters and never shop there because the closest one is like 45 minutes away and I can drive 5 minutes to my local government run store >>21109842
>>21109915Jelly of that list. The PA liquor board doesn't put out anything like that.
>>21109438I personally prefer Laphroaig. I need another bottle as I just ran out.
>>21110044Yeah, i'm a fan of how my county handles things.Here is the 2025 lottery drawing that's happening in 3 weeks.
>>21110086
after 2 weeks, my package was finally delivered yesterday.
>>21110052Are there different lists for Scotch?
>>21110143No, when they do get rare scotch in, it goes on the list, but it's fairly rare.They have a fairly decent scotch selection on the shelf as is.
>>21110048Not a bad selection. What state?
>>21110165Illinois. I got lucky with the Weller and Blantons as there is a small liquor store off the highway near me with a good selection and only slightly elevated prices.
>>21110183What were the Weller/Blantons priced at?I tend to grab 1 or 2 of each per year at MSRP, I can't stomach paying more than that.
>>21110195Weller was $40 before tax. Blantons was $109 before tax. Though marked up they are much cheaper than most in my area. Right down the street from where I got these a place was selling Weller for $75 and Blantons for $200
>>21110206Not bad on the Weller, $5-10 over MSRP.I wouldn't pay more than $75-85 on the Blantons though.
>>21110258Unfortunately, it's impossible to find Blantons anywhere here for MSRP
>>21110281NTA But that is exactly why I don't buy it.Not worth the extortion prices.
>>21110281I just wouldn't buy it if that were the case, but it has been available around me regularly at MSRP.I could get a bottle this month but I think I'll take an EH Taylor instead >>21109842
>>21110117Curious about that Linkwood. Let us know how it is.
>>21110283>>21110287Meh, honestly, I take soo long to drink a bottle that I don't really have an issue overpaying sometimes. Also, I just used Fantasy Football winnings to get it.
Europoor here,question: how much this cost in America? I really like this one and I want to compare. One litre.
>>21110391$35-$40
>>21110391A 1.75 L bottle costs $45, there is also a 750 ML limited edition version for $20 and a gift set with a glass and a juicer for $20.
>>21110403The gift set is also 750 ML
>>21110391Depends where you live, around me it's $240 for the Crown Royal 23 year golden apple, $140 for the Crown Royal 18 year, $45 for Crown Royal XO, $33 for Crown Royal Black label, and $30 for the regular Crown Royal.All 750ml.
So I'm thinking of moving this year. I looked up laws regarding shipping spirits to most states.This is VERY unclear. There doesn't seem to be a single page out there that accurately states in what states consumers can order spirits online and have it shipped to them from in or out of state in an easy to understand manner.Furthermore, by checking on several websites which ship spirits and seeing what states they say they ship to, this information seems to conflict with much of the other information online, e.g. it appears a lot of these stores are shipping spirits to states where some information out there says it shouldn't be allowed.The one page I found that seems to make the most sense had an anecdote from someone who works in the industry saying that stores who ship liquor rely on third parties for compliance with various state laws and that these third parties are either using loopholes or just straight up not complying with state laws and shipping to states they shouldn't be.Does anyone have any accurate information on this subject? Or am I correct in assuming that it's basically easy to get spirits shipped to you in a state where it's technically not allowed because stores and their third party shippers aren't complying with the law?
>>21110432tldr is it really depends on the state, some states are much more active about chasing that kind of shit down and fining those who break the laws, some states don't give a fuck even if the law says it's illegal.My state recently added a law that allows delivery drivers to deliver alcohol, but it requires a $1000 permit and it's only for delivering from in-state businesses. So I can order a bottle of liquor or a bottle of wine from a store in my state and have it delivered by hand within a few hours, but I can't order a bottle of scotch from Scotland (or even another US state) and get it delivered in the mail.
>>21110447I seem to get conflicting information even when Googling this subject for specific states.
>>21110452Yup, aint that a bitch.
>>21110456I've seen more than one state law say basically the first time you get caught having something shipped to you you shouldn't that it's just a warning and not a fine, including two of the states I'm thinking of moving to, so if I move to a state like that I'll probably just find a store that ships there even though I shouldn't and order with impunity lol.
I have like 40 bottles.Do I have a problem?
>>21110507Yup
>>21110452that's because Google is completely useless now>AI result>Reddit result>Quora result2 pages later>actual information
>>21110308>https://www.whiskybase.com/whiskies/whisky/264561/linkwood-2010-svI've only had the neck pour so far, but if you can get it, I'd do so. it's the best of the 3 Signatory Vintage Unchillfiltered bottlings I have(others being an Ardmore after Islay i.e. Laphroaig barrel and a Dailuaine 14 ex bourbon). I paid about $60 USD after shipping and at that price it feels like a value, especially if you're not already experienced with red wine finishes(a proper finish too boot, not an overcoat for low quality spirit). very creamy with soft sweetness and sour bits after a few drops of water that reminds me of strawberry rhubarb jelly. easily 87+/100they play well with each other, but I'm not sure on my favorite yet. the Ledaig is certainly the most loud of the 3 and to my surprise the Port Charlotte is the most reserved overall. there were a few, very small fragments of cork in the Linkwood, but the cork is good shape and there seems to be no tainting so I'm not worrying as the next few pours should flush the remnants out.the Ledaig isnt particularly fruity, but it is very creamy and nutty with a moderate amount of wood spice. the PC is deceptively not smokey on the nose and the palate is more like a lightly peated Lowland style, almost too clean imo. the Shiraz finish is very fruity at first and trails off into more red grape concentrate.
>>21110507I have probably 60.It is a problem, it's a shopping addiction.
>>21110507>>21110531the problem isnt how many bottles you have. the problem is not having enough money or space for more.>>21110474>>21110447>>21110432if you value the ability of shipping, dont be spilling the beans for all to see.
>>21110536No not really, you can afford to buy them and still be addicted to buying them.
>>21110536I only have 3 bottles at any given time and don't buy more until I finish one. Currently have>Michter Single Barrel Rye>Four Roses Small Batch Select>Knob Creek 9 YearThe KC is almost done, so I think the next one will be a Wild Turkey Rare Breed Rye or I might take a chance on that Barrel Seagrass I saw the other day
Whiskeycore. Drinking Wild Turkey to this, a tad ironic I supposehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufE5NuNY9QM
>>21110507Yes.Hello, my name is A Non; and I'm a shopaholic.
>>21109064>40%>Into the trash it goes.That was the old version discontinued in like 2009, the current version is 48%
>willet rye has one last pour in itDo I restock it? Or try something else? Any rye recs?
>>21110996Sagamore 9 year (if you can find it)Knob Creek 10 year RyeBardstown has a new rye that's pretty good too, though it's only 6 years old.
>>21111001How's the Sag double oak? Could get my hands on that more reliably.
>>21111015I haven't touched the double oak personally, but most of those sagamore releases have been well received from what I've heard.
I'm gonna do an infinity bottle for my bourbon collection. Should I separate the mix by flavor profile like the nutty creamy bourbon from fruity? Rye from the rest?I understand that I won't be a master distiller but I want to create something decent at the end.
>>21111242The infinity bottle that I made out of a combination of peated Scotch, sherried Scotch, bourbon and rye ended up being absolutely fucking incredible. I'm the guy from the last thread who eventually ended up drinking the whole thing when it became perfect and I didn't want to ruin it by adding anything else to it.I would say it will be more fun and interesting to be experimental with it and mix a whole lot of different things into it rather than separating the mix by flavor profile.
>>21111266Yeah it's for fun primarily but I don't want the mix to be horrible like undrinkable at the end and be disappointed.ngl the mix you describe sounds gnarly in a bad way and I'm surprised that it turned out well.I could do 2 bottles, one with everything for lulz and other just with my favorite bourbons.
>>21111315>ngl the mix you describe sounds gnarly in a bad way and I'm surprised that it turned out well.I'd say there was a 2:1 Scotch to bourbon/rye ratio. The flavor profile was dominated by peat and sherry cask flavors.It was so good. Really.
>>21110969Got it wrong, it was introduced in 2009 and discontinued in 2016
>>21111242separate categories like single malts, blends, corn liquor, rum, etc.
>>21111242Going to start one as well if my decanter will ever get here in the mail. I drink bourbon and rye and decided to just pour in 2oz of any bottle that I like.
>>21111835I did think I would try to keep it at about the same proof level though (~100) and not add cask strength stuff.
>>21111837you can use cask strength but you should add some water afterwards and give the container a good swirl
infinity bottles are reddit tier memesif someone offered me drinks from their infinity bottle I would pass on it
New pickups, got the Sagamore because it's the first 100% Maryland grain to glass rye I've seen from them, all of their previous releases were MGP sourced distillate aged in Maryland. Now it's apparently using Maryland grown rye, distilled in Maryland, aged in Maryland, and bottled in Maryland, so as a Maryland native I felt duty bound to buy it.The C924 ECBP is my 2nd bottle, the Bardstown is new to me so I'll open that one later this evening.
>>21112634>100% Maryland
>>21111837>>21112431Man cards status: REVOKED
>>21112634>as a Maryland native I felt duty bound to buy it.I'm a former Maryland resident and I feel the same whenever I see a new Sagamore release on the shelf.Thankfully most of their stuff has been great.
>>21112506>everything I dont like is reddit!>>21112658>le man card
>>21110507>>21110531did a bottle count for the big cabinet and it's exactly 40. small cabinet is at least another 25.
>>21110281blantons is hardly worth MSRP, let alone resale price lmao
>>21113074If you've never had it before, it's worth MSRP at least once.After that you can decide for yourself.
>>21113075Ive had it before. hardly worth msrp
>>21113109Yes, for you.You can't tell someone else who isn't you that it wont be worth it for them.Believe it or not, your taste preferences aren't some subjective baseline standard everyone else experiences the same as you.
>>21113075>If you've never had it before, it's worth MSRP at least once.It's below 100 proof so no it isn't
>>21113118it's called an opinion you fucking zoomer
what does it say about me that the only types of liquor i like to drink neat are scotch and cognac?
>tfw I genuinely like buffalo traceI'm a basic bitch
>>21113196There's nothing wrong with being a cheap date, especially if you're the one buying.
I need help. I'm absolutely addicted to this thing. /ck/ recommended me the 12 and it was okay, but after trying the 15 I think I found my soul-mate. One bottle can't last more than 5 days. Help.
>>21113207>especially if you're the one buying You mean the reverse right?
>>21113118dumbass does not understand the concept of opinion
>>21113319Not at all, anon. Treating yourself on the cheap or treating others on the cheap are both equally good.
>>21113275Haha just wait until you try a Scotch that's actually good.
>>21113393examples?
>Blandtons>Good
>>21113402For the ~$50 price point, Glendronach 12 for non-peated and Laphroaig 10 or Ardbeg Wee Beastie for peated.
>>21113409What about the ~100$ range? Is there a declining return of investment for the price?
>>21113415>Is there a declining return of investment for the price?Absolutely.>What about the ~100$ range?Figure out what you like before you start spending that much on bottles.For example, figure out if you prefer:>unpeated bourbon barrel-aged, unpeated sherry cask-aged, peated bourbon barrel-aged, peated sherry cask-aged, etc.>regarding peat specifically, lightly-peated, medium peat, heavily-peated, etc.>40% ABV, 50% ABV, 60% ABV, etc.There's a lot of different flavors to be found in Scotch. Figure out what you like before you spend big money on bottles.
>>21113468Damn. I guess there's no better way than to try a little bit of each to find my perfect drink.
pass the whiskey
>>21113415>What about the ~100$ range?At this range I'd look at a independent bottler, like Single Cask Nation.Imo you'll be getting more bang for your buck at that price than you would with a distillery bottling.
>>21113531>Single Cask Nationpic related>inb4 kvetching >>21113415Glendronach 15 or Laphroaig 16I assume from your love for Glenfiddich 15, you probably dont want anything too heavy, so independent bottlings may not be your bag yet. if you feel like trying out the wild side (typically the opposite of house style of official bottlings), then Laphroaig is easy enough to find but the price is going to be more(try Ledaig or Caol Ila instead)and for unpeated look for a sherried Bunnahabhain(doesnt need a lot of age). if your serious about not being able to slowly sip your bottles then the higher end drops will likely feel like a waste as they really benefit from time and air after opening.
drinking green spot
>>21113902I definitely prefer Redbreast 12 for around the same price.
>>21113902>>21114084Yea redbreast gets my money at that price point for Irish.
>Flavor profile: smooth
>>21114132Son i've made a life out of reading peoples faces, and if you dont mind me saying i can tell youre out of aces. So for a shot of your whiskey, i'll give you some advice.
>>21113404Probably the worst buffalo trace product outside of benchmark
>>21109842>gonna pick up an EH Taylor and a Rare Character Single Barrelmission accomplished.Waited in line for about 8-10 minutes. Still had half a dozen EH Taylors left and at least a dozen Rare Character's left.They had a single B524 ECBP on the shelf, but I really didn't like my first bottle of B524, so I passed on it.
>>21114162go to bed gambler
>>21114343>SRY-123Was curious what it meant so I looked it up.SRY = Indiana distilled rye, 51 rye/45 corn/4 malted barley, aged in Kentucky.
>>21114356Neat, I tend to like a more mild rye, so that should fit my preference.I'll crack it open this afternoon/evening.
>Binny's having a 15% off anything sale with coupon. Today only. Time to get me a Laphroaig 10 year.
>>21114485is there a maximum limit?I'd go for something nicer than 10 year lafrog if it was a decently high cap on that 15% off.
>>21114488No limit. But that's my favorite and I am at capacity right now.
>>21114547Fair enough, just seems like a waste you'll be saving maybe $10.
>>21114627Funny enough. I stopped at another place omw to Binny's and I found the Laphroaig 10 year for $5 less than what the discount at Binny's would have been. So I just picked up a Redwood Empire BIB
>>21114485the closest Binnys to me is about 3-4 hours drive. just a couple years ago they had 25+ year Glendronach single casks for less than $400 after tax.
>>21114755Nice, enjoy.I just poured a finger of EH Taylor.
I'm gonna pick up some Rye bourbons today, name some sub 100 bucks stuff I should pick up.
>>21115019Not that it's terribly important, but if it's a rye whiskey then it isn't a bourbon (bourbon has to have at least 51% corn in the mashbill whereas rye has to have at least 51% rye). There are some bottles that are rye + bourbon blends, though, e.g. pic related.
How long does a bottle keep after opening? I have quite a few but I'm scared to open too many at a time.
>>21115088If stored properly, easily 12-18 months.If you're opening the bottle and leaving it open for awhile that can cause evaporation and oxygenation that can degrade the whiskey, but it's generally not a big deal unless you're leaving it open for long periods of time, or leaving your bottle in direct sunlight, or having a half opened bottle sitting around for multiple years. Feel free to open bottles and let them sit for months, or even a handful of years. Just don't leave them for 5+ years, or regularly open them and expose them to oxygen.
>>21115019Michter's Single Barrel, Jack Daniels Single Barrel Barrel Proof, or Wild Turkey Rare Breed Single Barrel are all good options. Sagamore makes some good ones too.
>>21115039Thanks nerd >>21115161Yeah I have those except the Sagamore. I was thinking of picking up Sagamore 9 year and Hemingway Rye.
>>21115174Sagamore 9 is a steal if you can find it.I'm in Maryland but the 9 year release flew off the shelves (and for good reason).Knob creek released a 10 year Rye about 5-6 months ago that's quite tasty as well.
Found a Sprinbank for the first time in like 3-4 years. 10 year for $150, 15 year for $200. What a joke lol
>>21115243$200 is basically MSRP in the US for the 15.My local store is government-run, basically stays within ~5-10% of MSRP and they have it listed at $196.99
>>21115247Yeah fuck that. Before the hype that shit was ~$100, maybe even less. I enjoyed the 10 a lot and would love to try their older expressions but never at those prices.
>>21115333Yeah, just letting you know that price is basically the lowest price you'll find in the US these days and there isn't much (if any hope) in finding it cheaper by hunting around.
>>21115341I'm not really in the hunt for it per say, I just pop in and see whats available and any notable price differences. I'd rather wait for it to drop or just never buy it again at the rate its going. I did buy a bottle of Campbeltown Loch for like $65 which is a blended malt of the 5 major distilleries in that region and like a week later it was absolutely cleared out lol. These taters are wild
>>21115403You will likely never buy it again, with inflation and international trade the way it is right now, it will NEVER be available in the US for cheaper than ~$160 for the 15 year, and even that would be a great price right now, I expect it to continue to go up as time goes by. Wouldn't shock me if it hits $200-250 regularly within 3-5 years. That being said if you ever make it over to the UK, it's only around $100 there.
>>21115408Its a shame but oh well. Plenty of other bottles to try.
>>21115421it's largely what pushed me to bourbon and rye, and even if bourbon has been overpriced the last few years, it's still generally a better deal than scotch in the US.
>>21115421nta but it might worth it to just get it now and only sip it 2-3 times a year like I do mine. 18 single are already averaging $250 which is at least 2x the price from 2 years ago. Kilkerran is a good alternative, but as others have mentioned basically shares the availability/pricing of Springbank more often than not.>>21115505deciding to only buy overpriced craft bourbon and then say scotch that is a little more money is a bad deal in comparison is obviously bias. bourbon isnt even imported for fucks sake. the value aspect of American whiskey in the US is fucking awful in comparison and isnt worth exploring passed the $60 range(above is tater territory).
The official price point past where the price/performance ratio of bourbon instantly drops off a fucking cliff is Woodford Reserve Double Oaked.
>>21115585Nah, but there is plenty of overpriced shit in the higher price brackets.There are some gems too, you just wont find them if your entire bourbon experience revolves around ONLY buying sub $60 bottles.
>>21115591>Nah
>>21115591I'd rather buy Very Old Barton 100 for less than $20, OGD 114 or Old Overholt 114 for less than $30 each and I havent bought american whiskey since the end of 2022.
i love eh taylor so much bros. eagle rare is still my fav because it's my first intro to bourbon but damn the extra proof is worth it
