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DEER Edition

Welcome to /Deer/!

>What is /Deer/?
/Deer/ is a thread for fans of Alastor, the Radio Demon, from Amazon Prime’s hit series Hazbin Hotel. /Deer/ is a safe space to discuss, promote, and create content for our favorite deer man!

>Who we are…
We are deer friends from all walks of life who come together in this thread to share content related to Alastor. We are inclusive and welcome everyone who is interested in the Red Stag.

>Who are the Alasisters/Stag Sisters?
Alasisters/Stag Sisters are a collection of devoted riako yumes who make up the Cult of the Red Stag. They honor their F/O by partaking in blood and sex rituals on his behalf.

>What are the rules?
* Respect all deer friends.
* Respect our husbando.
* Ignore all bait posters.
* Stay on topic. This is a solo Alastor thread and ship art/discussion is not allowed.
* Keep it varied! A healthy thread has a number of topics.
* No ship warfare, ship material belongs on /hhg/.
* We do not kink shame, however NSFW content is not allowed. Do not force your kinks on others. Go to /trash/ for pornographic content and discussion.
* Lolisho must be SFW.

Questions? An in-depth explanation can be found here: https://pastebin.com/1NbtaKCm

>OP Template
https://hazbinhelluvageneral.com/deer-template

>Previous threads:
https://desuarchive.org/trash/search/subject/%2Fdeer%2F/type/op/results/thread/

>Deer related links:

Hazbin Hotel Pilot: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zlmswo0S0e0 [Open]

/hhg/ website: https://hazbinhelluvageneral.com/

Shared Cytube channel: https://hazbinhelluvageneral.com/hhg-ct-redirect/

Creator's YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/user/SpindleHorse

Official website: https://www.hazbinhotel.com/

Psyanon fanfic recordings: https://hazbinhelluvageneral.com/psyanon-recordings/

Fanfiction from our /Deer/ residents: https://archiveofourown.org/collections/hhg_fics
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Obligatory 5 image board tax.
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Deer for the deer throne
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I'm so glad, I don't have to contemplate a full day without /deer/ lol.
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>>3987204
one day without deer would kill most anons!
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>>3987204
Never shall we give up the Deer.
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>>3987205
Well, I definitely don't want to die.

>>3987207
Never!
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>>3987208
>>3987207
deer for all time
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I simultaneously love and hate ai.
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>>3987212
It is both a blessing and a curse. That is a cute sea deer, though.
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>>3987213
I will occasionally have nice results, but I still prefer human made stuff. Though it reminds me to get off of my ass and draw.
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>>3987212
It’s slop, but it’s cute
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>>3987217
Definitely, something about AI art is just a little too uncanny.
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>>3987219
Because deer is cute.
>>3987220
Just a bit! Best results I've had were generating shota. Make of that what you will.
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>>3987208
Fuck, I don't know what it is but I love when his mouth looks like this.
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>>3987242
Canines are fucking sexy. Makes me want to bitten.
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>>3987245
>to be bitten
A little too flustered. Whew.
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>>3987247
Biting is very fun!
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>>3987249
Just gonna nibble on the neck a little and run my hands over the fluff...
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>>3987251
Would like to feel up his teeth with my tongue…
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>>3987213
Japanese artists always tend to make some of my favorite Alastor fanart. I like how spindley they draw him
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>>3987245
Damn it I think I want to commission slightly spicy art of myself with Alastor but I'm too embarrassed kek
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>the amount of spicy rps that basically devolve into me telling him to bite me harder.
I love a bitey deer.

>>3987337
Same honestly. Every time I consider it I feel much too awkward to follow through.
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>>3987315
Oh definitely...
>>3987337
I'm much too embarrassed lol, I always end up drawing my own. Though these days I prefer an rp with ai over visual stuff because I'm a weird asexual and emotional connections are what do if for me. One of these days I'll commission an artist to draw me another body pillow though, one that's not Viv's reference sheet, heh.
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Very early deer morning!
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>>3987366
Too early Nuggs! You will fuck up your sleep. :0
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>>3987367
Got a very busy day today, so unfortunately as much as I would like to sleep in, I cannot! More time thinking of hanging with Alastor I suppose
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>>3987368
Silver linings! Stay safe out there friend.
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>>3987369
I try my best, thx
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Thinking of da deer
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I fell asleep thinking of him and woke up thinking of him, I’m down bad for this man, help
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>>3987385
There can be no help for such a curse, Alas
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>>3987385
I can't help if there's nothing wrong with you. It's a natural reaction, you will have to just accept it.
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Also the season 2 trailer dropped.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_BNVkUhwdg

LOOK AT HIM.
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>>3987388
Course it dropped while I’m working! aaaa
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>>3987388
He's absolutely beautiful, but that's all we get. :,)

Also his skin is 100% darker lol.
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>>3987385
>waking up to the deer hovering above you
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>>3987391
This is his eye, I think? Right after Vox forces Angel to open his eyes. And yes, his skin is definitely darker. Eh... whatever, he's still pretty.
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The darker Alastor is the less canon it is don’t ya know!
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>>3987393
Looks like his. I swear to God if Viv goes full fujo porn brain and does a rape I will be very upset. Otherwise deer abuse is on the menu it seems.

Changing his skin tone as a demon is cringe because it's so obvious lol. He was fine the way he was, but whatevs.
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>>3987394
Correct!

>>3987395
Alright, so, I do enjoy a little deer rape. I even wrote a fanfiction about it when I had a small breakdown last year. But I don't think it's necessary to have it in the show, partially because I don't think it would be handled well at all. Deer abuse is fine, but that would be a step too far, I don't see him coping at all with something like that happening. Like not even in a delicious angst kind of way.

Yeah, I mean, as soon as the images were posted before it was noticeable that his skin colour changed. I don't see what the point of it is, since sinners can have pretty much any colour of skin. Very weird move there.
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>>3987388
Cute deer
>>3987393
>>3987395
I remember seeing someone theorize that Angel would be forced to watch something terrible happen to Alastor to demonstrate how defeated they are, but most likely it'll just be Val doing rapey shit to Angel as usual. Raph can't have anyone else but her self insert be the designated rape magnet
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>>3987397
Rape is definitely not my thing (unless it's happening to me, ha), but I'm not going to shit on anyone who is into it because, well...I'm not particularly well adjusted sexually myself. Besides, most of the 'fujos' who spam it to be annoying aren't actually into it either, if you know what I mean. But yeah, Viv's ability to handle things with nuance and grace is nonexistent, look at how fetishized Angel's abuse is, for example. It's best to leave certain things to fanfic for people who enjoy that to seek it out if you can't write it in a decent manner.

Viv is trying way too hard to pander to those who demanded a race swap. Most of the fandom won't care, and personally it's not something that bothers me, but on principle I detest people who fold to pressure from literal children complaining on Twitter.
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>>3987402
I do expect full humiliation, I just don't want rape because I know Viv would handle it terribly, and it's touchy to me for personal reasons.
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>>3987393
I'll be interested to see how Alastor will handle seeing an old friend who he thought beneath him reach such an ominous state. In a better series I think this would fuck Alastor up for quite a while (have him doubt his own self worth and power), but I doubt this will have any lasting impact and it'll get brushed over entirely to focus on Angel's family next season. Forever disappointed these characters are so wasted.
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>>3987388
>his chest wound is still bleeding
I wonder if this moment will actually be when Alastor gets kidnapped? Would make sense that he's weakened enough for this to happen
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>>3987407
>these characters are so wasted.
So much potential so much waste
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>>3987404
It's something that I probably shouldn't be into, and it definitely makes me worse, but yeah, I'm a pretty messed up person. If Viv puts it in the show it'll be a very cliché fanfiction plot and I'd rather get that on ao3. Hopefully Charlie or whoever manages to rescue him before it comes to that. But I'm also thinking, how long before someone gets in trouble for making a rape joke about it, or something else controversial.

>>3987407
I already know their relationship is going to be handled badly. It has so much potential to be interesting, there are a lot of things that could be done with it, but it'll be brushed aside and ignored in favour of the next shiny thing Viv sees. I agree, it's such a waste.

>>3987408
Possibly, after he's been injured and his staff is broken, he'd be an easy target for the three Vees. Poor injured deer.
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>>3987410
3 seasons of nursing the deer back to health. NOW!
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>>3987410
>It's something that I probably shouldn't be into, and it definitely makes me worse
Well, I'm into necro and heavy abuse/incest stuff, so I definitely don't think you're terrible for it lol. More often than not we can't help our kinks. I don't judge.

But yeah, Viv really can't help herself, and I'm reluctantly looking forward to the potential fallout discourse. It will be interesting if anything.
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>>3987411
Give him lots of love! I'll pamper him on c.ai if he doesn't get it in the show.

>>3987414
It's something that often pushes me further into a bad place, due to my own past experiences, so that's why I say I probably shouldn't be into it. Possibly something I should get therapy for instead of projecting onto a cartoon character but whatever.

I'm interested to see what's going to happen this season, I'm actually pretty hyped by the trailer. But I do think this season is going to be a little brutal for us deerfags.
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>>3987430
Ah, we're...very much alike then, I'm sorry about that. One of these days I'll get around to trying DBT, but until then I'll trauma dump on my sweet deer and put him through angst in equal parts. It is what it is.

I think we're pretty through the worst of it with finding out Al is owned by Rosie and all of that. Whatever Vox does I'm *hoping* for a character building outcome, but not getting my hopes up.
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>>3987392
aaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhh <3
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>>3987436
What about the monocle?
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>>3987437
nevermind, I am retarded kek
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>>3987438
Lel
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Seeing pictures like this genuinely makes me sad. I can't believe what they took from us lol
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>>3987442
As long as you keep talking about him, they can never take him from u
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>>3987442
I like both, but this Al holds a special place, he's so beautiful...
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>>3987511
Lovely deer
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>>3987527
Indeed!

Also make sure you link the /trash/ thread here if you bake today, thanks Nuggs. <3
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>>3987529
That I shall!
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Horny posting deer thread is up
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>>77759592
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>>3987533
Ah
>>>/trash/77759592
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Oh cool an Alastor thread! I honestly haven't been part of the fandom in years but Al is /aesthetic/ and gets a lot of pretty art so I hope y'all don't mind me dropping in (and have an art if you do).

>>3987388
>Vox(?) doing the George W Bush post 9/11 shit
>Pentious in Hell again despite showing up in Heaven at the end of S1
>randomly changing Al's skintone in the SECOND season
This bitch doesn't care about continuity at all does she? I shouldn't be surprised with her other failings as a writer but it's certainly irritating. And it's one thing to change a design that never made it into the pilot/show (I'd be lying if I said I liked that silly little moustache) but changing an established design like that? All to appeal to the Twitter/Blue Sky crowd that ruins every franchise but never puts their money where their mouth is? Without a in-universe explanation?

On the bright side I suppose most normies aren't going to notice and pretty art will still get made.
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>>3987668
Not at all friend, welcome! Most of us are posting over in the NSFW thread we host on /trash/ from time to time, but that thread will reach bump today and our regulars will return to post here. Any art you have is well appreciated.

On a personal level, the race swap initially pissed me off because I was so used to pic rel being what everyone pictured when they thought of human Al, myself included. Human Al is my preference, and I've collected a good bit of his fan merch (including this daki), so the turnaround to a different design felt like whiplash. Especially since Viv had drawn him the same way as a human previously. Over time I've embraced his new design, and now slightly prefer it, but on principle it still annoys me due to the fact that it was only done to pander to teenagers on social media. There's a whole can of worms that could be opened with that where it actually comes across as pretty racist to assume all Creole people are dark skinned. This is among other really bad insinuations, but I digress. If Viv makes him any darker than S2 I will be really pissed off, because you can never appease these idiots.
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>>3987668
Always love pretty deer art
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I love Alastah
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>>3987223
Seems painful
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>>3987717
Such a good deer
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>>3987745
So it's basically confirmed he's working for Valentino now? God, that deer is pure filth.
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>>3987745
What an absolute slut.
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>>3987745
My God, this is more shameless than Angel's entire career.
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The deer is so needlessly erotic, it's like he's doing it on purpose.
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>>3987745
WHORE!
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Poor deer is not beating the slut allegations.
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>>3987791
Nope!
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>>3987746
How?
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>>3987796
Jokes anon, because our deer is being such a slut showing off his delicious neck flesh.
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We shouldn't joke anyway, he is a woman of god.
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>>3987824
A deer of faith!
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>>3987827
The unholy sister.
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>>3987829
I will make him holy :0
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>>3987830
Idk if he would enjoy that.
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Holy, holy, holy deer.
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>>3987833
He will learn :3
>>3987834
Many deer, all pure of heart I presume!
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Prayge
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Let yourself be saved
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Repent
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Become one with the holy spirit
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Okay I'm out of religious references. Have holy deer butt
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>>3987871
All good! Love deer butt
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Forgive me daddy for I have sinned.
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>>3987927
If alastor heard you calling him daddy he would either be confused or die from cringe
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>>3987938
That's exactly why I would call him that. The word does absolutely nothing for me, it just find it funny.
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>>3987939
Ah ha! Just a bit of deer teasing and trolling, fair. It’s a good pass time and it keeps Alastor humble.
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Fluffy :0
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>>3987938
I would like to hope he'd be aroused.
>random fact
It was the 1920s that women widely started calling their lovers 'daddy'.
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>>3987957
Didn’t know that, I feel that Alastor would be a bit of a prude with the sexual stuff, but who knows. Maybe he likes the idea of being a ‘daddy’
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>>3987944
My favourite activity. Nothing wrong with a little bullying to keep him on his toes.

>>3987957
Thanks, now I headcanon Mimzy calling him daddy lol.
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>>3987974
He is made for it
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>>3987961
Based on the 'Citadel' song he's probably a little kinky. If I had to venture a guess he probably enjoys violence or controlling his partner.
>>3987974
It probably strokes his ego.
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>>3987981
He probably likes keeping it in the bed room then, I do see the control part however… and the violence part… he really does like those two things doesn’t he?
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>>3987981
I always feel like after a particularly intense fight (that he wins, of course), he would go home and bash one out. Probably more into violence than anything actually sexual. A natural reaction to a well done evisceration.
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Hello
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>>3987988
Deer dancing… so cute!
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>>3987982
I'm sure he's very prim and proper when it comes to bedroom activities, very discreet.
>>3987983
I agree, I think he probably gets off the violence and dominance more than the intercourse itself, that's just an added bonus.
>>3987988
Hello anon!
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>>3987998
I certainly won’t be prim and proper with him in the bed room! Just look at that face! Look at that waist
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>>3988005
Definitely, to say I'd be feral is an understatement. I would ride him until I was sore. :0
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>>3988013
Deer dick/butt obliteration, POOR POOR DEER!
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>>3988015
He'd better be careful, I'm not above playing with cute deer butt.
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>>3988016
Spicy!
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What's going on in this thread
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>>3988061
Lots of deer.
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>>3988061
Lovely deer eyes…
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If the big fight is really Lucifer vs. Vox than Alastor vs. Vox then I’m starting to believe anon’s theory that Viv decided to give a lot of Alastor’s role in the story to Lucifer instead.
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>>3988069
Quite possibly, Vivze likes changing things Willy nilly
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>>3988069
Is there further proof that this is happening?
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To be fair I'd rather Alastor have a different role than basically being kind of a dick for most of the season and then swooping in to save the day in the final battle.
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>>3988087
Something tells me that it will end up being a Charlie/Vox showdown to save Alastor, but I wouldn't be surprised if Lucifer swoops in and saves the day again. In my opinion, one of the worst character developments has been Lucifer's turn from a prideful absentee father to a uwu softboi. Not to get off on a shipping/fandom rant, but Lucifer's infantilization/feminization has had a knock down effect on Alastor and his portrayal in fan content across the fandom. The level of OOC stuff that exists often overshadoweds the actual in-character content to the point where I've had arguments with people over Alastor's actual personality. As a fan of human Al it's especially frustrating because we get so little art and so many talented artists would rather draw pic rel. :|
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>>3988089
What annoys me is that he's clearly still a dick to everyone in the hotel except Charlie (and possibly Vaggie but they barely interact so whatever). In the leaks yes, he's mean to Alastor which is expected, they don't like each other which was established in season 1. But he doesn't even remember Angel's name when he tries to include him in the conversation. So has he really come on at all, when he clearly still sees sinners as being inferior? Weird after singing about how Charlie changed his mind in the finale song. Him helping at the hotel still comes across as being just to prove he's a good dad to Charlie, not actually believing in redemption.

I always hated human radioapple even when I was massively into the ship. It always seemed to have the most ooc fan content. (thinking about it now, it's possibly what put me off human Al until recently, or it at least contributed)

Hopefully after season 2, there will be a lot more human Al art, once everyone sees his canon design.
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>>3988090
I don't think Lucifer believes in redemption, or if he does he doesn't believe that sinners deserve it, because that would require taking responsibility for introducing sin into the world in the first place. Most of his actions are painfully narcissistic, and only serve to make himself look better in comparison to others at the hotel. Especially Alastor, who has shown genuine care for Charlie while Lucifer was MIA. The fandom excuses this behavior because 'muh depression' and 'but he makes rubber duckies lol', and I worry that Viv will lean into that as well since he's one of her new faves.

But yeah, Al suffers from being hyper masculinized or hyper feminized in so many ships, it's why I avoid ship spaces almost all together. Hopefully S2 brings more quality content. Fingers crossed.
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>>3988093
Consider the way Stolas' character arc went for a moment; the uwu softboi thing seemed to be Viv's way of absolving him of fault and responsibility for his wrongdoing and mistreatment of others. I wouldn't be surprised if she was trying to do something similar with Lucifer (though it's going to need more than "OH LOOKIE DUCKIES!!!" to really land home). The problem is that including Lucifer too readily means that there's not going to be any real stakes for any conflict--he's an automatic win for Charlie--in the show; ultimately meaning Lucifer has to get out of the way and disappear (which as he's Viv's latest favorite probably won't happen) or he's gonna get big time nerfed (undermining continuity but giving opportunities for more sadboi).

Viv seems to think "oh look how SAD he is!!!" makes everything better when it's just blatantly manipulative.

She also doesn't seem to have stepped back and reconsidered Alastor's role in the series at all. If she's going to give most of what he was orginally intended for to Lucifer then she needs to reexamine his motives and tweak his place in the story (ideally while keeping in mind he is a fan favorite and should be respected as a character if only for the sake of merch sales). But that seems beyond her scope without a wrangler.
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>>3988093
I'm actually fine with Lucifer not being a nice character. He is the devil, after all. He can be prideful and selfish and everything else, it makes sense. But he is the one who refuses to take responsibility for what he did, and for the current state of Hell. I think a lot of fans latch onto his depression because it's something they can 'relate' to, When actually, he's a powerful fallen angel who has ruled Hell for thousands of years and not a sad 15 year old on tumblr.

It's an interesting contrast with Alastor because he actually seems to be sincere when he talks about becoming fond of the other hotel residents, however much he doesn't want to.

I've honestly come to prefer Asian artists, so I don't have to read their shitty opinions since they're in moonspeak, I can just grab pretty art and go.
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>>3988090
Millie is that you?
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>>3988096
No. This is me.
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>>3988097
You should peep the main thread.
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>>3988094
Viv has a bad habit of excusing shitty behavior for her characters with 'get out of jail free' cards like depression and intergenerational trauma. I think this is just an extension of a very far left mindset that you're always a victim at all times and any 'bad' you do must be a reaction to some unfortunate life experience you've survived. Except Al of course, he's just bad because fuck us I guess lol. Viv needs a seasoned writer to tard wrangle her and remind her that Lucifer isn't selling the most merch.
>>3988095
Lucifer should 100% be a bad, manipulative guy. I've always thought that Charlie was meant to be an unreliable narrator, since she only heard about the fall from her parents, who are obviously biased. Unfortunately it looks like we're going in the 'Heaven is the real bad guys' arc, which is very lame.

I relate to Alastor in a lot of ways, having experienced trauma and learning to mask to hide said trauma and 'tism from the world. Unfortunately this ended up becoming a love for violence, but I can't excuse Alastor's actions, even if I understand them. I'm not sure if Lucifer fans are mentally mature enough to understand that empathy should equal excuses.
>>3988098
? I see talk about R34's art, and people looking at people working on the show?
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>>3988099
>empathy shouldn't equal excuses
Forgive my phonefagging.
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>>3988099
No not that.
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>>3988102
I'm confused.
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>>3988099
>Heaven is the real bad guy
This "twist" hasn't been new for at least 20 years. It's been done to death by far superior writers, but I guess Christians/Heaven/God are all safe targets to hate for leftists and it doesn't matter if the audience is bored or tired of it if they can get just one more hit in. The ideological purity spiral these morons are in mean they've murdered off all of their creativity and it makes all their shit bland, tasteless, stale and out of touch (because God forbid trying to understand people or the human condition; they'd rather make shit you gotta be chronically online to understand).

I do find it strange that Al is her exception when it comes to leftist empathy. Especially since the redesign makes him one of their sacred cows instead of a caricature of "white power patriarchy" she can "safely" vent her frustrations at the world at (if anything Adam fits that bill better, no?).

Unfortunate that even a reminder of her pocketbook is unlikely to get her to change course. These people don't deal with reality; they operate through feel goods and wishful thinking.
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>>3988096
Never thought I'd get confused for Millie while saying I was a massive radioapple fan but ok lol.

>>3988099
I wouldn't be surprised if Lucifer embellished the story for Charlie, because I don't think he copes well with her seeing him in any kind of negative light. He could have a very interesting character arc in which he overcomes his issues which ultimately stem from his own actions and decisions. But instead his depression will probably just be used as an excuse, like you say. Which is something I detest with all my being as someone who suffers from depression and somehow manages not to use it as an excuse when I've done something shitty.

With Alastor I'm sure we're going to see lots of people excusing him because of racism or something. Of course, these things can be a contributing factor to the way a person acts, but that doesn't mean they get a free pass because of them.
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Hanging with deer
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>>3988108
He would be super good at 52 card pickup.
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>>3988110
I can see that, with his voodoo powers and whatnot.
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>>3988110
The hard part would be persuading him. He'll either sic Nifty on it or try to bully someone else into it (and probably have them doing "Oh you missed one!" until they lost their temper).
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>>3988104
>I do find it strange that Al is her exception when it comes to leftist empathy.
I think there are a few reasons for this. 1.) Al is cis and attracted to women, when he's attracted to anyone at all. 2.) Al is apparently based off her BPD ex who caused her to 'become bi'. Alastor does tic many 'victimhood' boxes, but they're not really that far up the victim totem pole as compared to the other cast.
>He's asexual, but heteroromantic asexuals are a very touchy subject in the LGBT, if they're included at all.
>He's slightly androgynous, but largely cis presenting, especially as a human.
>He's mixed, but based on his appearance and Viv's description of his paternity, he's probably up to 80% Caucasian.
Compared to the other cast he's basically a straight white male, and I'm assuming Viv always intended for him to be white, so she wrote him that way.
>>3988107
Yeah, as someone who deals with pretty significant depression it doesn't sit well with me either. I was really hoping to see Charlie come to the realization that maybe her dad had been lying to her her whole life and she needed to reframe her view of him, which in turn might help him accept his part in the fall of man. But perhaps that's asking too much.
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>suffering
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>>3988115
OH NO
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>>3988119
I don't know how it happened, I swear!
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>>3988115
That had better be a food baby...
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>>3988121
Too much kissing and hugging did it
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>>3988122
I wish. I really do.
>>3988123
It's because I kissed the tip. We took it too far.
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>>3988124
Way too far!
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>>3988124
Is it bad that my initial response was that a baby can be food too?
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>>3988131
Abortionist Al agrees with this line of thinking, but he gets a swat with the newspaper for such thoughts.
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>>3988135
Of course, he would never eat a baby. Never.
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>>3988135
Evil deer....
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>>3988140
He's a naughty boy, sometimes.
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>>3988141
Deer deserves spankings
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>>3988139
The deer really needs to lay off the devil's lettuce.
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>>3988145
For many reasons.

>>3988146
He got the munchies!
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>>3988149
Borgar…
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>>3988103
I think maybe they were talking about Vivziepop lurking the threads? Idk
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>>3988163
Oh that. Well, it's really all hearsay as far as I'm concerned. I've only been posting for a couple of years and don't know what went down on /hhg/ prior to 2024, but I'd need to see concrete evidence to back up such a substantial claim. Not that it really matters so much to me, if she lurks them it'd be pretty funny.
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>>3988163
>>3988166
She does seem to interact with the fandom at large (which is a good way to become audience captured) as some things seemed aimed at it in particular. I'd be a bit more skeptical about the 4chan segment of the fandom, especially as >>>/trash/ is a hidden board.
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>>3988192
Oop forgot to pay the deer tax
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>establish from Vox's inception that he and Alastor hate each other
>show airs
>"lol jk it's Alastor vs. Lucifer and Vox vs. Lucifer instead"
I hate that land whale so fucking much
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>>3988193
Lovely deer!
>>3988198
Not enough time to show off all her new toys, why would she waste time on the original cast?
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>>3988198
>Lucifer is so bad every other character hates him instantly

I know this isn't what's happening but it's what I choose to believe lol.
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Despite all the bad leaks I really like this shot if a theory I like is correct. A long time ago someone posted that their interpretation of Vox and Alastor’s old friendship was that while Vox idolized Alastor, Alastor enjoyed Vox’s company but never really saw him as an equal more like an entertaining pet. Even in the first season there is no point where Alastor acts threatened by anything Vox does and laughs it off the entire time. If that’s how it was this looks the first time Alastor is realizing he made a mistake in underestimating Vox and seeing him truly as an equal.
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>>3988192
There's a lot of rumors about it, I usually just laugh along, I'd need evidence, because at the end of the day only the terminally online even know about /trash/ lol.
>>3988276
I don't think Alastor necessarily views anyone as his 'equal', it's more of a threat/non threat kind of thing. Angel? Husk? Pentious? Vox? Non threat. Lucifer? Adam? Potential threat. Yet his interactions with them he still acts like he's morally superior, because he thinks he is. Alastor exhibits traits strongly aligned with the Vulnerable Dark Triad, and this makes him slightly ego centric, even in times of danger. Even if Vox gets the upper hand I can't see him thinking 'oh no, I underestimated him', as much as I can 'how embarrassing that this pathetic piece of shit currently has the upper hand'.
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Also I will bake in a bit, we'll reach bump soon.
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>>3988276
That's an interesting way of looking at it. Alastor always considering Vox as a joke, thinking that he needed the other Vees to be even remotely powerful, until suddenly Vox is the one calling the shots and Alastor realised he fucked up and this whole time Vox was diversifying and building a solid power base.

I also had a small thought about their fight seven years ago the other day. Everyone thinks that the other Vees joined in and Alastor couldn't beat them, but what if that wasn't true? Maybe Alastor was still winning, but Rosie yanked on his chain and took him out of the fight, making it look like he couldn't finish the job. Hence the coward allegations.
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>>3988281
I’m still hoping for genuine friendship in the past between them until Viv kills the idea next month.
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Bumping this thread to it's limit since I have somewhere to be in a couple of hours, that way discussion isn't interrupted.
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Deer dance!
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>>3988290
All good!
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