Tom Brevoort opposed redeeming Beast, in the manner of Jim Shooter's stance during the Dark Phoenix Saga. Brevoort criticized the reset of Beast's character through resurrection, feeling it let him off too easily. Now in control, Brevoort is steering X-Men stories to retain a darker, morally complex Beast in the narrative. Upcoming X-Men arcs will feature both versions of Hank McCoy, fueling deep ethical and identity conflicts.I am reminded very much of Jim Shooter, Jean Grey and the Dark Phoenix Saga, here. Shooter wrote decades later, of editor Jim Salicrup, and creators Chris Claremont and John Byrne; "When I read the X-Men make-ready that included the scene in which Phoenix destroyed a Shi'ar starship, killing hundreds, and an inhabited planet, killing billions, curious, I asked Jim Salicrup to show me whatever else was done on the storyline. Because Claremont and Byrne were very efficient, on time and professional, the next several issues were well along. The climactic issue was still in the plot stage, I think. I think Byrne had not yet begun to pencil it. At any rate, I discovered that Chris (and John) had backed down from the idea of Phoenix becoming the X-Men's Doctor Doom. The plot indicated that Phoenix would somehow be mind-wiped and let go. Back to living at the Mansion, hanging around with Storm and company, sitting at the same table for lunch, etc. That, to me, would be like taking the German army away from from Hitler and letting him go back to governing Germany.
>>152147213God, I miss when comics were written by adults. Yeah there was like a novels worth of dialogue to these things sometimes but people would bare their fucking souls. It was genuine.
>>152148051For as much as Lobdell had problems with plotting because he just wrote by the seat of his pants, I legitimately don't think there's anyone who got characterization the way he did. It's why the quiet issues were always his best ones.
>>152148181Loebdell is rock solid when it comes to keeping the status quo in line. He GETS the characters you give him and will do a good job of giving them the right voice and head space. He can get retarded as hell when you let him off the leash but between him an Nicieza they could keep a book going strong till the next big to do.
>>152147213>sunsetsorry i meant sunRISE>>152148051yeah that takes introspection.even in mutant X, an alternate beast (brute) at least got a two page spread of him doing some kind of work. i remember right, it was just some narrative bubbles talking about how he wants to help his friends.for some reason i feel like he got smarter temporarily, like a flowers for algernon arc. but i could be mistaken
>>152146015well then i'm grateful to englehart
>Meet Marty and Alexis, two very different people that are forced to be together when they mysteriously gain super powers that only work when they are together! This fun, all ages comic is brought to you by former Disney animator Tom Bancroft.
>>152146614pitssssss
>>152146644cute earring
>>152146626Cute
>>152146565>Frank ChoSo is there a picture of her with huge gazongas?
>>152148364He did this cover of the original black and white run
Why did popular comic strips die out? Even if newspapers are gone, they could have taken up a new life online. Sure they may still be around but gone are the days where we'd see one become a phenomenon like Peanuts, Calvin & Hobbs or Garfield
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>>152144421The most popular online comics are strips though. And there's more of them. Of course newspapers are dead. But back when newspapers were popular there was only a handful of comics. Whatever. This is a black pill thread right?
>>152144335>heathcliffe
>>152142858awful comic
>>152142077First:>internet becomes big enough that any rando can shit out a webcomic for every interest possible, good or bad, high or low effort>also, newspapers stop being "thing" that literally every household used to have as basically everyone now gets their news from the TV / internet, so parents can't just give their kids the comics section like they used to>eventually all the legacy webcomic creators either "evolve" out of just making comics (ex: Penny Arcade), quit outright as their fanbases dry up, or shit the bed in some way (VG Cats doing gross-ass porn that makes everyone look like they've been beaten with bats before each scene... instead of working on the comic)Then:>electronics advance to the point where even some third-world shithole can fart out a webcomic on a no-budget phone using free wifi, meaning now every square inch of the internet is covered in comics, socio-political comics, funny comics, lewd comics, endless spinoffs of other comics, knockoffs of knockoffs and so on>even the legacy comics that have been around for 9999999 years can't pull clicks because general-purpose comics like Peanuts don't have the same appeal as finding some niche comic that caters to your specific tastes (of which there are thousands)>legacy comics also end up having to rely on movies, cartoons, shit tie-in games, or crossovers to stay relevant>monetizing "newspaper" comics is a pain in the dick since there's no newspaper to latch onto, so you're stuck doing Patreon or merch,>the internet itself is a series of tubes, so even if you monetize your shit or run ads, it's already been shared to 9999999999999999 people the second you release something>BONUS: most people in 20XX are franchise whores now and believe "I haven't heard of it, so it MUST be shit", which makes it 1000x harder for new shit to take off (unless it goes viral by pure chance)
Or /coc/ thread if that's what you look for in the catalog.Wiki:https://the-conservatory.fandom.com/wiki/The_/co/nservatory_WikiPast threads:https://desuarchive.org/co/search/text/the-conservatory%20wiki/type/op/
>>152147198She doesn't ship it. That's her cousin simping for the goth chick, /co/die, he has a crush on.Interesting, so you think she can't take it?
>>152134094What are their ages? Are they all adults?Dumb question I know.
>>152147301Wait he's her cousin crazy, also does that mean he's a cupid too? An what a asshole cousin can't help a brother out. Most that dish it out can't plus being in control and being tamed isn't fun
>>152147783Ages aren't defined but they're all meant to be adults.
Good night /coc/.
I feel like at this point someone genuinely needs to ask. What is up with redheads and being hypnotized in cartoons? Who’s responsible for this
>>152148203Kind of depends on how much SFW stuff the guy has. Which I’m looking through DA, doesn’t seem like a lot.
Quack Quack
https://youtube.com/watch?v=nyMmDY3Z5ew
>>152148271>>152148295It's weird that I like this, but I do. I think 1) It's mundane and silly, which makes it all the better to take down someone dignified and of high station like a princess, and 2) it's fast and stealthy. Just staring at it for 4 seconds wondering what it is, that's enough. It's already over. You're gone.
Would Cruella have grounds to sue Roger over his diss track about her?
Take it to /mu/. Let's talk about Cruella some more.
>>152145647Anita is cuter
>>152140314Yes.He uses her full legal name to lambast her.
>>152147650Wrong! Cruella is the cutest!!
Bump!
Why are old comics so charming?
>>152145816>They (Marvel at least) weren't held down by decades of continuity or the sliding timescale. Again, with Marvel there was actual change, not the illusion of change.It is interesting going back to the first decade or so of Marvel and seeing it was moving practically in real-time, that seemed to slow down by the time Stan was no longer directly working on the books and Jack Kirby had left.
>>152143293They're unapologetically hammy and the art was spectacular. When it's done parodically, it's not as charming. I really hate it when they try these days. It just comes out unfunny and phony. While my favorite comics came out in the 80s, they lacked a lot of this charm.
>>152143293The bright colors add a lot of appeal imo
>>152143293Them thicc assed lines are coloring look so cool.
>>152144384Stan also briefly tried to rebrand his comics as "Pop Art Magazines" since he thought that would be a more palatable term for college age readers. The same way people use "graphic novel" to feel superior to mere comic book readers. He definitely tried to market his infantile stories as more sophisticated than they were.
here's your next helping of spider girl slop!>The Amazing Spider-Man: Spider-Versity #1>Miles Morales, Spider-Gwen, Silk, Araña, Spider-Boy and Spider-Girl have one thing in common — THEY AREN’T READY. According to former Resolute Spider-Man NORMAN OSBORN. So he and Spider-Woman are going to TRAIN THEM to meet the next threat — the only way the Green Goblin knows how. Because the next threat might well BE the Green Goblin!https://leagueofcomicgeeks.com/comic/2857479/the-amazing-spider-man-spider-versity-1
>>152140273>Miles Morales, Spider-Gwen,1. That's not her name.2. She supposedly has years more experience than all the others, wtf.
>>152140668>HI GIRL, NORM'LY KITTY DOES THESE PEP TALKS RAHT AFTER ONE OF Y'ALL'S JUST KILLED HALF A CITY BLOCK ON ACCIDENT, BUT SHE'S HAVIN' A HISSY MOMENT RAHT NOW. JOIN US AND EMMA'LL MAKE EVERYONE FORGET YOU'RE A MENACE, THEN BEST OF ALL, YOU GET TO BE CHICKENHAWKED BAH THE NEXT ALPHA DYKE ON WHICHEVER OF THE 8 TEAMS WE GOT. PRETTY SWEET DEAL, RAHT?
>>152142327Bailey is for Skip
>>152148264Christina. He's for Christina.Dammit Puzzle Man...
>>152140273Why does Miles need "training"?He's much stronger than Norman ever was. In fact, he's stronger than Peter. He has vibranium suit and defeated Blackheart, defeated his own Green Goblin, and the Sinister Six when he was 15 years old. Peter can't compete, much less Norman.
Marvel editors push back on shit getting swept under the rug. Meanwhile DC's constant reboots and shitty editorial mean nobody ever pays for their crimes.>Green Arrow has murdered a couple people over the years, sometimes in cold blood, and is still a Justice League member.>Red Hood murdered hundreds of people, but is welcome to lunch with the batfamily>Cheshire nuked a middle-eastern terrorist state to set up a ransom demand. She was tried for crimes against humanity, but now she's allowed to chill with the heroes.>Deathstroke and the Brotherhood of Evil nuked an AMERICAN city to ash. Nobody cares. They're just allowed to exist in the world.>Black Adam murdered millions of people across dozens of countries, then joined the Justice League, somehow.Why is DC so shit with this?
>>152146445While a character's original creator are usually the best when coming up with stories for them. There have been plenty of times where another writer that had nothing to do with the original comic does a better job like Chris Claremont with the X-men or Alan Moore with Swamp thing.
>>152144253Scott Lobdell wrote Red Hood for a decade, his warrior-monk training is infinitely more relevant than Under the Red Hood at this point. Not sure about the recent events, but it’s easier to treat New 52/Rebirth Jason as a separate entity from UTRH Jason
Meanwhile, in the Marvel writers and editors' shrine to Dr Doom...
>>152145578>>Ollie was justified killing Prometheus.Ollie killed plenty of non-supervillains during his legendary Grell-run
>>152144253Outside of a few exceptions such as Batman and Superman, most DC characters don’t really have a strict no-kill code anymore (especially not Wonder Woman). They just don’t kill every supervillain because they are needed for other comics. I remember one modern DC page of Aquaman correcting Batman that only Bats had a no-kill code and Aquaman doesn’t.
When we got into this preteen hazeOur parents told us it was "just a phase" (uh-huh)Mom and Dad, hate to burst your bubble,As long as we're in school, we're gonna get in trouble!
I genuinely have not seen any other character of this show besides the goth girl. Made me think she was some kind of porn OC.
Jesus fuck stop making Detention threads you autistic subhuman.
>>152148202no
We had one yesterday, so let's redo!
>>152085891>>152085910Kek
Charlie from the animated movie la course des tuques/racetime.
>>152089739>>152143603from T.U.F.F. Puppy
>>152138145you will use an actual dictionary to look up 'obscure' and 'underrated' before you ever use either word again
A movie or series? Live-Action or animated? CGI or 2D or stop-motion?
>>152146677this series is strange to me. it is the most nothing series ive ever read. yet its being propped up hard. i feel hesitant to call it an industry plant but i have no argument against it. is it because the artstyle is childish which contrast the gory nature. the main character acts smart but its more like a dumb persons idea of a smart serial killer. does it add anything to the suburban serial killer besides me am bear me predator. seriously why are they animals i just dont get it, it feel lie its a giant joke and im not in it
>comic is just dexter with furries>starts off fine but goes to complete shit near the endreally makes you think
>>152146677How do you even make a live action version of this shit? just thinking about i makes me mad.>>152147426This is the worst thing I've, seen, makes me feel like pic related
>>152146677>what if Dexter was... LE BEAR?dogshit comic
>>152146677There was. It called Pretty Blood.
Talk and post about Robert Crumb
>>152146823>incel >had a wife and had sex >>152146759I assume they do once they're in their 30's or something, but even then you can still find pics of older/married women engaging in this behaviour. Some women (well most really) naturally like attention and being desired, so they might feel a sense of shame because of how those photos make them appear shallow and whorish, but not because they're actually ashamed of the actions themselves. There's always a part of them that wants to do it.
>>152146770What a retarded take. Crumb's social commentary is nothing but blackpills. If he were more contemporary he'd 100% be placed in the incelosphere of things. The interesting part is how he maintains this incel sense of self despite immeasurable success and having fucked thousands of women. Crumb is a gigaincel in that regard.
>>152119441What does he do, yo?
>>152147389I'm genuinely surprised that Crumb never had a buddhist phase given where his sympathies seem to lie about the nature of people and how he views himself in relation to the world.
>>152148249Maybe it's redundant after high doses of LSD
Are there any pros who draw comics in CAD? I feel more comfortable with this software than any other digital option, I've tried a drawing tablet+Krita and it just doesn't work for me. Meanwhile I have decades experience in CAD even if drawing characters isn't what I was trained in. I worry though that this isn't accepted by readers/the industry.
>>152147974Can you post one of your drawings? Specially a character even if you're not an expert, I'm interested
>>152147974There are successful artists who strictly use Sai still. As an artist myself, I just assume most art program have a specialty with "kitchensink" features. For example, Maya and Blender can do lighting, animation, sculpting, and texturing without needing Substance Painter, Z Brush, and Unreal. I've worked with all three and the work flow for specialize program are nice, but not necessarily for all.
>>152147974No one uses autocad to draw comics, not even you
>When disney was both scary and funny
>>152148192I'm talking about dinosaur 2000 retard
They really learned how to be genuinely funny with Emperor's New Groove and then just never tried it again.
>scaryWhere did I put that Spongebob rollercoaster picture...Oh wait, Yzma, I forgot. Nevermind. Scare away.
Carnotaurs were so cool. Liked them more than the JP T-Rex.
>>152148241Honestly that Carnotaur couple had more character then Aladar and they didn't even talk
