COMIC and CARTOON-related matchups in this thread only
RULE34Is the soloer of DEATH BATTLE
>>145861131Benkei vs Galvarino
>>145861210>fight parental controls win effortlessly
>Springtrap solos all of fiction>Including marvel and DCHoly FUARK
>>145861413Fate sisters…. WH40k cucks….. SCPisses…. Are we purple guy victims?
>>145861131>"COMIC and CARTOON-related matchups in this thread only">OP's matchup has neither comics nor cartoons
>>145861457>Star Wars>no comics or cartoons
>>145861413Oh max don't look good should have stuck with the avatar.
>>145861413>All those funko popsMax ended up being the 30 year old consoomer.
>>145861413Holy FUARK...these CHADS all exhibit more testosterone than my Jewish ass obsessed with golden age FRAUDS.
>>145861608Put your trip back on Otto
What cruel monster told this boy to show his real face?
>>145861636TBF, I’m pretty sure most of their audience looks like that anyways
>>145861646You're not wrong but still. Max normally uses an avatar. Someone told him to do this.
>>145861636Humiliation ritual
>>145861636My hair looks more crazy then this usually unless I comb it, it’s pretty damn shaggy
Giorno is gonna win, right? Like, not even the huge ass reality warping bullet is gonna be able to take on GER. Unless Joker pulls some shit like going into Giorno's Palace and giving him a heart attack, he's losing
So like, did Silly Willy actually win the cast?
>>145861857Joker isn't even allowed to use his powers in the real world but he can totally fight reality warping because....
>>145861857Omnipotent Orb.
>>145861857Giorno is gonna win because really, the debate can be interpreted for either side, and Giorno’s infinite death kill is too kino for them to pass up on, so they’ll lean on the arguments in his favor.
>>145861636This fat fuck has a twisted troon as one of his mods.
>>145862193What did zir mean by this?
These threads feel like Kiwifarms at this point
>>145862219Max brought this on himself for letting weird pedo troons run his shit.
>>145862199I'm hoping she/him is just making a joke but Matti is Keith's trans boyfriend/girlfriend and Vivian was the Brandoncord mod that tried to push hrt on minors so we're dealing with some fucked up people here.
>>145862265They weren't joking.
>>145862287holy shit
Discuss Jiren vs Gladiator. Do you like it? Best for both?
Looks like Galaxy Video aka multi-versus is just another groomercord.
>>145862219We aren't that fat
>>145862376I don’t care. Stop talking about random discordfaggots already.
>>145862464Max was just on the podcast. He's not a random faggot.
>>145862376>literal trooncordJust nuke it all.
>>145862464This is this guy's discord >>145861636
>>145862498Ottocord filtered the troons and groomers with Trump rhetoric so it gets a pass.
>Leave the poor BUGGERINOOOOOOOOSSS ALONE!!!!!!
>>145861131>Not LuffyWhy are Narutards ducking
Holy JOBnen Trinity...
>>145862464>stop exposing the pedophiles!Favorite character?
>>145861131Why do Naruturds keep trying to dodge Luffy
>>145862863Luke is a harder fight than Luffy tho?
>>145862863Naruto is weaker than Obito and Luke is stronger than Vader.
>>145861636God could not have been in a good mood when he created this guy's face.
Saitama vs Popeye minus the bullshit
>>145861636>all this horror memorabilia>also the hammer from a mediocre case in Danganronpa for some reason
>>145861636Imagine being so ugly that you can only socialize by not revealing your face. Welcome to the DB Discord.
>>145861910>Omnipotent Orb.It's just a name, it doesn't make you omnipotent.
>>145862984Star Wars scaling is honestly sillier than Dragon Ball or Capeshit scaling.
>>145861636Jesus Christ. He should lose some weight, cut his hair and start working out.
>Junko can't kill Springtrap because she can't hurt soulsI mean, yeah... But If you give her Monokuma then she should be able to banish ghosts. In V3 Monokuma "Kills" the ghost of Shinguji during his execution teaming up with the ghost of his sister.
King Arthur vs Cú ChulainnSince this is DB we use composite materials. Meaning Cu gets content from other sources, as well as Arthur's French sources.
>>145861857Realistically, I think Joker should win. There's nothing to suggest Almighty attacks couldn't bypass GER apart from NLF and as far as I'm aware nothing implies GER itself is *entirely* passive so there's still a window for Joker to merk him normally before GER acts if he gets the speed advantage. And the only thing Swan seems to like more than Jojo's is fraudchecking notorious NLF characters
>>145861131No Judge Dredd vs Robocop?
>>145862775Would BUGni-Man get along with BUGhan?
>>145863378Of course,BUGhan respects a fellow Bug lover.
OH NO!HE'S NOT GONNA GO3 - 0
>>145863054One Punch Man fans will never learn. Popeye beats Jobtama 10 times out of 10.
It's time.Jon Kent vs Pan Son
>Solos MHA
>>145862359I like Martian Manhunter vs Jiren better.
>>145863562Only on opposite day.
>>145863562No lies detected.>>145863622>SHITama COPE
You ever get the feeling that it’s not about winning but about humiliation
>>145863579If you're supersonic and can regularly pull of nuke level attacks you can probably solo MHA.
>>145863622>scrambled egg fingers posted this
>>145863642>supersonicHypersonic at least, the top tiers in BnH are light timers
Happy Spooktober, everyone. Today's costumes are>>145847333>>145847777>>145856000As always, the rules are simple, respond directly to the anchor post (i.e., this) with a costume request, and if you get trips/quads, you'll be featured for the next day. If multiple people land trips, that's fine, and if there's no trips/quads for the day, dubs can also get it. The selections only run till midnight (EST) of that day, so if you go over that, it's doneso. You'll need to reply to the next day's post to roll again. Also, do not make multiple requests in a single post. They must be separate posts for equal chances of rolls.
>>145863572stupid girl! you're making me straaaaaaaaight
>>145863690Kirby dog walking Buu
>>145863690Mazinger Z
>>145863675Headcanon and bad calcs. Ida breaking the sound barrier was treated as unprecedented speed.
keeping with the threads theme, although i was going to ask if the new mario game changes the result of MvS muchwho wins? Kick-Ass vs Casey Jones.
>>145863690Speedy and Doctor Green going to jail led by Wiz and TNAnon
>>145863758Lol
>>145863715Iida is a shitter.Deku, Bakugou, and Shoto can all react faster than Aoyama's navel laser.Shigaraki was massively faster than the lasers of the US air force, Deku and Bakugou can keep up or even Blitz Shigaraki.All might can jump across the country and blitz hundreds of villains in seconds and he is massively above Deku and Bakugou, a weakened AFO could reach to Iron Might's laser who's based on Aoyama's laser, and in his prime he was able to go head to head against All Might.Your next cope will be "those lasers are sub light speed because... I say so!"
>>145863579Deku is the strongest McDonald's employee and served father his happy meal for his kids
I hope Atem gets a bunch of mind fucking shit from the Toei Anime and Manga.
Imagine a Mark vs Gohan Death battle and Mark wins purely because an another universe version of himself got raped by Spawn.Like ctually try to explain this to non Autistic people without sounding crazy.
>>145863572End in sex!
>>145863822>Pan straightens out Jon so that the Superman bloodline can continueBased.
>>145863817>Ingenious croppingMARK is STRONG
>>145862832Lol
>>145863833>Ingenuous*FTFY
>>145863297>as far as I'm aware nothing implies GER itself is *entirely* passiveYou mean aside from the fact that it was defending Giorno in erased time when he was completely frozen and had no idea what was going on?>uhm but Diavolo’s bloodThat literally never happened. Diavolo was looking at the reality that COULD have happened if the actions performed were complete, but those actions never actually took place thanks to the ability. There is no window.>There's nothing to suggest Almighty attacks couldn't bypass GER apart from NLFIsn’t that in of itself an NLF? Keep in mind that GER could revert things that were completely erased from time during those few seconds.
>>145863817Huh? That version of Mark killed Spawn though. In his universe and this one. He’s one of the remaining Marks, meaning that he merked Spawn.
>>145861857I know what Giorno can do but what joker abilities and stats is?
>>145863690Kid Buu and Captain Underpants standing above Dan Da Dan, CSM and JJK while the strongest characters kneeling in front of their presence.
>>145863782Laser calcs are stupid. Regular humans are MFTL like four fights into Gash Bell going by this logic.
>>145863870I love that including this and the solar disk Invincible scaling is coming from like single panels
>>145863817>>145863833Beating Spawn prior to his Man of Miracles buff isn't impressive at all.
>>145863966Yeah it's a bit odd they will be anal about panel feats like the sun disk and how large it is, but give everybody FTL for dodging fictional laser beams which are actually shown to not be that fast. Now every setting with lasers/blasters in it automatically gets wanked.
>>145863966>Guy specifically says that he’s not even trying to dodge them and is just using their blind spot>This is somehow comparable to people being rightfully calced due to them actually dodging the lasers either last second or before they’re hit??? Why are some people so idiotic about laser/light dodging?
>>145863858I mean, the whole point of Almighty is that it bypasses things that would otherwise resist or nullify damage. It's not really an NLF to say it could bypass GER's RTZ unless there was proof of GER working on something that functions *like* Almighty, which I don't think we have.
>>145862359Jiren would probably win this. Gladiator's powers are based on how confident he is. Fighting a power house like Jiren who also always talks shit. Gladiator would slowly lose confidence in himself while J is beating the shit out of him.
>>145863966So we should just ignore all the laser feats just because you don't like the idea of those characters being faster than light?Even in early BnH Kaminari was considered a shitter. Ibara, a nobody from class B who is massively slower and inferior to the top 3 in class A, was able to Blitz Kaminari and block his lightning, and this was her reacting to Kaminari's attack.Deku had a better travel speed feat than Iida in the same arc Iida broke the sound barrier (going from an island in the outsides of Japan to UA in seconds) so does all might (jumping from Osaka to Hokkaido in seconds and blitzing 100 villains in less than it took him to arrive)
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Hz7IpBhrJiYjyHb64pou0kYkVPIn3DffdH21Zm5BxzA/mobilebasicIn case you all wanted to see it, one of the G1 blog researchers did a debunk on the Solar Disk. Seems as if Speedy interpreted things in such a way that the Rognarrian planet was like a blackhole in terms of gravitational density.
>>145864335>Almighty is that it bypasses things that would otherwise resist or nullify damageAnd you don't understand how GER worksGiorno literally gets straight up killed by King CrimsonGER still nullified itYou can do whatever you want to Giorno and unless you have a way of stopping GER from working directly (which Joker does not have, killing it or Giorno will not stop it) it will not matter
>>145864389>debunk still puts it at star levellol?
>>145864389These are the same idiots who believed in a Bardock stomp?
Who wins, offense or defense
>>145864335GER isn’t resisting or nullifying anything. It’s not reflecting the damage or negating it or erasing it, it’s making it so that it literally never happened. It returns it to zero, effectively turning it off and returning everything to its original position. In simple terms; it’s saying “no” to damage. Almighty isn’t doing anything. Giorno, meanwhile, CAN hurt Joker with AM by deflecting it or making his own Joker.
Better MU than Gohan and Conner?
>>145864413It is more accurate to say that they gave a whole range of answers depending on how you want to interpret the scenario. Their most high balled estimates were small star level, but their intial rating was sub planetary.
>>145864425Flash, Sonic and Superman on one team is just begging for a speed blitz
>>145864448No
>>145864456And their “rational” rating (same people who said Bardock scales to Goku btw) was large planet level, which still put the disk far above Bardock. The fact that they could even make an argument for star level IN THE FIRST PLACE should say a lot.
>>145863734Casey scales to actual superhumans
>>145864425What do these abbreviations mean?
>>145864476SS Bardock scales above Goku when he did that meteor shit.
>>145864485This would almost mean something if they didn’t scale him to that in his base form.
>>145864473>Invinsible fights Bardock's grandsonBoring, it should be Mark vs Goku like the episode hinted at.
>>145864481Defensive End, Defensive Tackle, Offensive Tackle, Quartberack, Running Back, etc ya nerdlinger
>>145861413>Glitchtrap and Burntrap keep getting brought up despite being a larper because "ignoring the books it's Afton" despite that specific book series being super canon>keep bringing up the dubiously canon book series to give Afton a bunch of abilities >brought up FNAF World for an argument despite that definitely not being canon and even if it was Afton wouldn't scale since the characters in that are different characters from the original (Purple Guy appears in the game and says he's not Afton meaning the same probably applies to the rest of the characters) >arcade cabinets being universeswhat the fuck even were those arguments?
>>145864476Anon, you understand the process to which they used Goku for measuring Bardock, right? They used the assumption that given a certain degree of power, these two character could likely do the same feats. That matches up with how Dragon Ball establishes things seeing as Ki augments all a person's attributes. Gohan's eyesight even improves when he goes from base to Super Saiyan.As for Bardock, if we lowball his power level to just about 10000, then his Super Saiyan form should be just a small bit under than of First Form Frieza who effortlessly destroyed planet Vegeta (which has an even higher gravity than Viltrum).
>>145864550See >>145864493They even went as far as to say that he can scale to it in Great Ape, by the way.
>>145863808That Ash still tanks? KWAB, your hero is getting blitzed in planck time.
>>145864613Ash vs Yugi amuses me because I remembered the episode where Ash also gets possess by an ancient ruler who battled with monsters, the King of Pokelantis
>>145864606Scale to what? If you mean the meteor thing, then it depends on what you gauge Goku's power to be at at that point. We know Goku is 90k when he lands on Namek. We also know (that prior to fighting Nappa) Goku on Earth is at 8k. We do not have anything for how strong Goku is after recovering with his fight from Vegeta.If you mark Goku as 90k during that, then yes Great Ape Bardock should be faster. If you mark Goku as 8k during that, then yes Base Bardock should be faster.If you mean scaling to the destruction of Planet Vegeta as a Great Ape, then that is silly. At least if you have Bardock marked for 10k at the point Death Battle uses him.Now you could try and guesstimate how strong Bardock's base would be after healing from his encounters with Dodoria and Frieza, but that is pretty nebulous. Like Goku goes from 90k to 3m after recovering from the Ginyu incident, which is like a 33x increase, but Vegeta from Earth to Namek goes 18k to 24k, which is only a 1.33x increase.
>>145862863Retard-kun, at the time Naruto wouldn't even require Baryon Mode to rape Luffy. He can't beat Luke the way Obito did to Vader, the fight would be much harder.
>>145862863Why are people still trying to force this Naruto /Luffy rivalry ?
>>145862863>>145862884>>145864768Force minds hit aside, it’s really not. Mainly because EU Luke isn’t ACTUALLY much higher than Movies Luke. The stuff like Yarael Poof being able to blow up planets with his mind is wank
>>145864768Luffy smacks Naruto silly though. He’s faster, physically stronger, specific forms give him better mobility and hax. Even Naruto’s planetary arguments get countered by Luffy scaling above Marineford Whitebeard.
>>145864953Naruto in base tanked an attack that split the moon in halfIf you think literally any OP character even comes close to that, seek help
>>145864803>he's AFRAID of Yarael Poof
>>145865009You mean the hollow moon that, even with the most generous interpretation, would still be weaker than WB causing earthquakes on the other side of the planet? And then hitting Aikanu with that same attack? Something he tanked?
>>145863156Anon, V3 is explicitly not canon to the rest of Dangyrangy. And even if you say it is for some reason, that isn’t Junko’s Monokuma.
>>145863690Predator and Jason Voorhees
>>145865043>would still be weaker than WB causing earthquakes on the other side of the planetHow would it be weaker and where was it ever said he was "causing earthquakes on the other side of the planet". Inb4 it's some vague bullshit you're twisting to mean that wayWhitebeard's earthquakes do not act anything like actual earthquakes, they are very powerful but they are very clearly not on par with slicing a moon (yes, even le hollow moon) in half
>>145863690Jason Voorhees
>>145864223That's just to explain how he can dodge the reflections at the same time. He can dodge the initial laser by moving out of the way. Him getting hit was about blind spots, not about not being fast enough.I don't know why you're acting so confident about something you clearly have no context for.
>>145864520>>arcade cabinets being universesThey fucking love this shit for some reason. Simulated worlds are universe tier to them.
>>145863690your mama fucking anons mama below
I'm not 100% on board with Spongebob being universal. The universe-destroying feat hinged on pulling a piece of thread that he didn’t create. And it took him a long time to unravel his world. This would be different from Popeye's universal feat as it is shown that the feedback from his fighting ripped the film. If anything, SpongeBob’s act could be seen as erasure, but even then, the loose thread wasn't his doing.
>>145864384I could see key late game players being supersonic if they pushed themselves (Bakugo in particular after he figures his shit out), but this idea that everyone was actually MFTL prior to Ida breaking the sound barrier makes no sense, specially since he did it to help Todoroki who is one of the higher tier students. And it wasn't casual supersonic movement, he gave himself an injury that put him out of commission just to move that fast in a straight line.Either way, this still means a character who can move freely at supersonic speeds and throw out nukes regularly could solo MHA as a setting.
>>145865400The episode was a giant shitpost where they purposely wanked Spongebob extremely high for the sake of the bit. I wouldn’t think to hard about it.
>>145864794Because it's real
>>145865102His basic quakes were being felt by people on the other side of the Grand Line. Marineford, meanwhile, is on the Red Line, and that’s where WB did his attack. There’s also that one feat where someone causes an earthquake that could be felt throughout the entire planet and caused all sea levels to rise but I’m not sure how Luffy scales to it.
>>145863690Niwatari Kutaka
>>145861910
>>145865762You know what’s funny? The more I’m hearing about P5 stuff the more I’m realizing that Joker doesn’t have anything to get around GER.>“ALMIGHTY BYPASSES ALL ATTACKS AND CAN’T BE REFLECTED”>Actually there’s someone who reflects AM attacks meaning that base GE could do the same>“JOKER RESISTED REALITY WARPING ON A COUNTRY LEVEL SCALE SO HE CAN HANDLE GER”>Actually it was only Shibuya and the dude doing the warping was actively giving Joker a choice and not even taking him seriously The ironic part is that if you include EOH or the Novels then it fucks Joker over, since DIOH was fucking reality on a planetary scale, and if you exclude them then GER is still superior since it overshadowed KC, who was affecting the city with its ability at the very least
skibidi toilet? solos.
>>145865867How does Skibidi Toilet canon work? Is shit like Multiverse and Wars canon?
>>145863690Kamishirasawa Keine
>>145865509>Marineford, meanwhile, is on the Red Line...no, it isn't. Marineford is an island on the Grand Line. The Red Line is the big towering continent. How did you mix this up? And where were people "getting affected by quakes on the other side of the grand line"? Why would any of this be more powerful than chopping the moon in half?
>>145865667>>145865889double fail
>>145865867… composite fiction’s laundry.
>>145865888skibidi toilet is made by dafuqboom so dafuqbooms series is the canon one. the rest are fanworks and are as canon to skibidi toilet as madness fanworks are to madness combatits funny that the guy is so meticulous with the powerscaling of his series. i will never forget the whole fiasco with skibidi multiverses new op villain
AFTONW
>>145865956me: BOIII WHAT YOU SAY ABOUT SKIBIDI (transforms into skibidi) ENGLIS OR SPANISH BLUD
>>145866051>travels to the nether to escape the wish
>Mark GraysonA retard!!
>>145866087Doesn't make sense for Gohan to fight Mark. Goku would have been the one fighting Omni-Man.
>>145863690Kochiya Sanae
>>145865842I don't even think it matters if Almighty attacks can be reflected or notThr damage reflection ability seems to be less of "the attack literally gets redirected" like in Persona and more "the damage it would've done gets put on your person"So it would be more like, Joker uses his ultimate reality warping godkilling bullet to blow up Giorno, but Giorno's beetle he had in his pocket causes Joker to get obliterated while GER undoes Giorno's death Probably also help if Joker died to the damage reflection so that persona autists don't cry over him getting shanked by infinite hobos
>swan one time made an argument that Girono can just pull Joker to the real world and kill him thereHoly FUARK. So that's how Giorno will win.
Joker can bypass Giorno's reflective lifeforms with Psy damage as it's mental attacks.
>Namekians confirmed to be from the Demon RealmThe true DEMON!!!
Joker solos GER btw
>>145866237>King Piccolo is supposed to be the demon king>Gets retconned so that he was just an evil alien larping>Goes full circle back to that he was the TRUE DEMON KING after all. Oh my God.n
>>145866223*Psi
>>145866180Eh, it does kinda matter since it means if Joker tries any big attacks it’s just going to result in him being paste while Giorno, like you said, would be fine thanks to GER. If they couldn’t be reflected then it means that GER would be stalemated in a sense (until he makes a copy of Joker), but damage reflection makes it so that no matter what Joker does, as long as Giorno has clothes on he’s always going to be taking damage from anything he tries.>Joker dying to anything other than the infinite deathsNOOOOO I DON’T WANT THAT. I WANT HIM TO EXPERIENCE AT LEAST S5 DB DEATHS.
>>145865432Again. Iida is a shitter. I already gave you two examples of Characters with better travel speed feats than him.Unless you want to argue that Kaminari had a special "slow lightning" and Aoyama a special "slow laser" you are just coping hard.Also Deku and All Might scale above Nukes by the end of the series.
at this point the most hilarious thing would be if MC wins againHalo fans don't really care that much, but Doom fans are ridiculously invested in this
>Daima just retconned all of Dragon Ball super OH NONONONOOOO!
>>145866365halo fans are too busy mourning the franchise
>>145861131Narutards really going to keep ducking Luffy huh?
>>145864389>>145864413>>145864420"debunked" more like approached by a desperate staff to do paid damage control and substantiate their claims.
>>145866383>SUPERdock>Toriyama tracing Toyo's ideasToyo won.
>>145864499we're actually, unironically fantasy football now?
>>145866383BASED
>>145866439Toyotaro...I kneel.
>>145866383It's kind of funny, Dragon ball, Dragon ball z, and then GT were sorta relatively straight forward. Then outta nowhere they were like "let's make all this new shit" (because they were angry about superman vs goku 1) and then the story kinda went to shit with constant retconns and rewrites.
>>145866497no it was because of GODvolution
>>145866291Why the fuck would Todoroki need a barely supersonic lift to get to his brother faster, if by your scaling he would need to be way faster than Ida in the first place? Your scaling literally contradicts canon.
>>145866507Unrelated but that was one of the greatest films of the generation. Just throwing that out there for those uninitiated.
>>145866261He ruled hell at the end of GT too. It keeps happening.
>>145866291>deku scales to nukeshaha you mean scales to the nukes going off the in bathroom of the fast food joint he works at AYOOOOO which he has to then CLEAN kekekkeek
>>145866291Deku and All Might are depowered by end of series. Endeavor accepted that if Dabi went nuclear, he was going to die. Endeavor got the closest to actually beating AFO on his own, forcing him to rewind himself (which ultimately kills him).
>>145866447What’s wrong with football. Flash Gordon played football
>>145866618Just found it amusing, that I've heard Death Battle called "Fantasy Football for nerds", and now this.
>>145863690Goku getting trapped and betrayed by SCPissers, FARTH series and WH40k cucks
>>145864425Put Green Lantern and Popeye on defense or it isn't even interesting.
>>145861210...'s laundry.
>>145862199This is what Death Battle shills defend btw
>>145863690CHADku, CHADtain Underpants and SuperCHAD in the Backrooms
>>145863690>>145863891Reroll
>>145863690a black cat
>>145866516Because he just fought against Dabi and was completely fucked up?>>145866536Deku has a legit inter continental feat and even before that he still has the Island level feat from the movie >>145866601Peak Deku and All Might should scale to inter continental, and All Might Still scales to Deku's island level feat.Nukes are city level at best Idk why you bring up endeavor and Dabi since I never claimed those to be stronger than Nukes
>>145867014>Deku has a legit job in an intercontinental fast-food chain and even before that he still has his other fast-food job from the movieMY HERO
>>145865043The moon was barely hollow, secondary
>>145866521I've heard tales of this legendary film. They say its power is unsurpassed.
>>145867080...'s laundry.
>>145865762>SHITsona reality warping is so weak it can't even warp unrealitylol
>>145866497Toei doesn't give a shit about Death Battle, why would they make Super because of some online fanfiction series?
>>145867124Nah
>>145867246...on opposite day.
>>145867014I genuinely am having trouble piecing together your MHA scaling cause it contradicts actual benchmarks in the series.
>>145867014I don’t recall Deku busting an island
>>145867302It’s the one where he and Bakugo punch so hard it makes an entire storm, which was covering an island, disappear. The inter continental thing he’s talking about is his punch impacting the weather all the way in the US.
>>145867302don’t worry, I’m a ball buster
>>145867338Favorite character?
>>145867302He's equating like clouds moving or some shit to actual continental attack potency. Even though AFO pre debuff said he would have died to non nuclear ICBMs, and Deku essentially needed to exploit emotional vulnerability to get past AFOs shit in the end. Which he could have just brute forced if he was actually continental level.
>>145867364Wasn’t he trying to specifically save Shiggy in the end though? Can’t really do that if he’s paste scattered across ten countries.
>>145867358
>>145867426Why did you post this image of me?
>>145867441posting chads are my specialty
>>145867394The other OFA quirk phantoms were literally just looking for any method they could find to win, and that was the best they could come up with. In the end AFO scaled past OFA. And they couldn't save Shiggu anyways.
>KiRetconned into being magic.
>>145867555Urk…Kryptonianbros……
>>145867555Does it explain why Goku gets deaged?
Dark Might in the new movie is described as being equal to Prime All Might, if you want an actual comparitor. He's not "Island Level", the best stuff he does is making big fists out of rocks and stuff which sends Dekuck flying
>>145867294Go read the manga then.Deku's inter continental punch that permanently changed the weather from Japan all the way to the US is literally what ended AFO/Shigaraki His island to UA travel feat was at the start of the final showdown against the villains The second movie has Deku and Bakugou using OFA to fight a guy who's literally shooting mountain sized energy blasts and they end up clearing the entire sky above the island (even half of that would still be island level apparently)In Vigilantes you can see All might jumping across Japan in seconds and blitzing all kinds of villains The "actual benchmarks" of the series is just you seething at these characters being this strong (likely because they solo whatever fodderversal series you like)
>>145867284Nah
>>145867607That’s a pretty silly argument to use considering that there are at least two movie villains who’re stronger than that.
>>145867629...on Bizarro World.
>>145867622In Vigilantes you can see All might jumping across Japan in seconds and blitzing all kinds of villainsShow me him jumping 2000 miles in a single bound
>>145867647>Nah is in bizarro world Save her......
>>145867555...'s laundry.
>>145867575Doesn't change anything: it just bypasses Superman's natural bio-electric aura, but his molecular structure is still stupid dense. Imagine an RPG; you do an attack: it does 0 damage. But then you put magic into your attack, now it just deals base damage; magic doesn't do *extra* damage, now there's still the matter of his genetics, and durability.
>>145867364Go read the manga nigga. Deku literally affected the US's weather from Japan, this isn't some wank or metaphor, he literally did that...>>145867511This proves nothing because we literally get to see the effects of his multi continental feat in a weather report. This is like someone exploding the planet with a punch and you saying "actually... That didn't happen because the other guy (before powering up) said he could survive a planet busting attack, therefore this attack that clearly busted a planet is actually bellow that"
>>145867643There are, but those villains also tossed Deku even when Deku is using his multiple quirks to imitiate 100% All Might. Hence why he always needs help from Healer Girl and Bakugo and suchDark Might is just an All Might equivalent
>>145867643His point was clearly to place All Mights power more accurately.
>>145867672>>145867643>>145867607how many cheese burgers did midoriya make to satisfy their hunger and defeat the villain....'s hunger
>>145867555>seem to be able toESLbro...
>>145867669>Deku affected the US's...Obesity rate with how many burgers he madeHOLY FUARK
>>145867555>seem to be able to>IESLB
>>145867682Well that also doesn’t clarify things for AM’s power because we’ve seen him perform stronger feats while weakened. His storm causing punch at the beginning of the story would be around the same level of strength as the storm clearer in the second movie, if not slightly weaker.
>punch is "continental" because it moved some clouds>when it did not effect the continent they're on>or the country, or the city, or even the 100 square foot radiusWhy is Death Battle like this?
>>145867727Not their fault that you are a retard who doesn't understand physics
>>145867727Clouds have mass, ding dong. If you’re making something with mass disappear entirely then it should be calc’d accordingly.
>For months, Ztards claim that Daima will have Goku deaged via some new shithttps://youtu.be/f_rKivLVmb4?si=3BRiFH5RkZwEyI0y>All it took was one wish from Shenron to transmutate himDoes this mean Luffy can rubberize Goku?
>>145867742What physics? If a continent-destroying punch landed on someone who is standing on the continent, it would affect the ground they are both pushing off of to exert force. That's Newton's 3rd Law.If the area is not affected at all, you can barely call it superhuman.
To actually solo BnH you would need someone Massively faster than light able to punch at least punch continents into dust Omniman is a good example of someone who could solo the verse low diff
>>145867727To be fair, people used to be dismissive of Dio's cloud feat, this is new kind of cope.
If All for One is massively faster than light how was Froppy able to speedblitz him in the final fight?
>>145867761>Standing Retardbro... Stop humiliating yourself and go read the manga, you are arguing about shit you don't understand
>>145867777Quads of truth
>he was broken by the ellipsisCHADS
>>145867766Omni Man gets bodied by Red Racer, no way Iida doesn't fuck him up
>>145867782MFTL outerversal frogs, please understand
>>145867777That was equally dumb because clouds still have mass. If someone made an entire ocean disappear would you say it doesn’t count because it’s just water? This is really just like basic stuff.
>>145867790Red Racer >>>>>>>>>>> Decuck
>>145867760Wait, didn’t Shenron say he couldn’t turn Android 18 human, how does that work?
>>145867782Everyone was jumping him, and besides distracting him nobody made him even blink.>>145867793Froppy should be hypersonic actually
>>145867760Nah
>>145867782Coomforce
>>145867766Literally the character with the highest defense in the series (AFO) says he woulda died to non nuclear ICBMs and lost to Endeavor before he had to use rewind juice, and Endeavor isnt even nuke level. Your shit is headcanon cope that contradicts actual feats.
>>145867817So? If you're MFTL it doesn't matter how many "sonic" characters you fight they'd all be standing still
>>145867799No Clouds are like Cotton candy! They don't have mass retard!
>>145867790If we’re talking show Omni-Man, then no because he was sandbagging and later he’s taking hits from Viltrumites leagues stronger than the Globe.If we’re talking comic Nolan? Then still no, if anything it’s worse because he speedblitzed Red.
>>145867760>Shenron can't bring back Android 16 but he can somehow turn Goku into a child again
>>145867799>>145867836Clouds disappearing is a visual effect meant to look cool, not an obviously intended barometer for the force of the punch, when the literal area they're battling in is clearly unscathed. A punch of that scale would have collateral damage on everything there like a hurricane.Same way Deku gets an electrical effect around him when he uses his powers, not because he's exerting a force enough to excite the ions around them like a volcano, because it looks cool.
>>145867842>because he was sandbaggingOmni Man was trying to kill them all>muh show and comic omnimanHe gets bodied by the guardians in both, he just gets lucky in the first fight in the comics and when he doesn't jump them in the reboot arc he gets his ass kicked by them + literal day 1 markMineta blinks and solos invincibleverse
>>145867849Why can’t he turn Goku into a fetus, it would be basically killing him
>>145867849Shenron is racist to robots in canon, Journey Begins Shenron on the other hand isn't
>>145867859Ah yes, the ultimate argument.>It doesn’t count as a feat because I said soThis is on par with saying “the author might not have known that X thing means Y so we can’t count it”
>>145867830>Literally the character with the highest defense in the series (AFO)Prime All Might is the strongest character in the series, AFO's strength is his 10000000 quirks not his stats.Also he was weakened during the fight against Star and barely alive in his fight against Endeavor.Stop reading the wiki and read the fucking manga, you are embarrassing yourself.>>145867835Not claiming otherwise, I'm just saying that the frog is deceptively fast
>>145867877It doesn't count because if taken at face value like you want, their punch can't destroy buildings and can only move clouds and nothing else
MHA is star level
>>145867882>Prime All Might is the strongest character in the series,AFO says he proved he surpassed him by tanking Suneater's plasma shot.
>Mirio the bouncy normal human decked DecuckContinental Level Mirio
>>145866237>>145866261what happened to cause the re-retcon?
What does any of this even matter? They're feeding Mahito to Shigaraki specifically just to appease you literal niggers and give MHA a win (which it already has but no one remembers that filler episode)
>>145867927Lack of quality control
>>145867869>when he doesn't jump them in the reboot arc he gets his ass kicked by them + literal day 1 markYou realize that that was literally a “good end” dream right? It didn’t happen, and the alien god thing was just showing Mark what he wanted to see. Using that to say that Nolan would’ve lost to the Guardians when the same dream has him getting tied up by basic chains and knocked out by GG. Hell, if you wanna go further than that, the Alternate Marks and Nolans all killed their Guardians without any issue and properly made their worlds desolate. There are more examples of them wiping the heroes of the world out in a single day than there are showcasings of them losing. All of this is, of course, ignoring the fact that he tears Immortal apart in like five seconds. TLDR; Regardless of if you use the comics or show he scales way above anything in MHA can do, and even hax like Eri’s deaging or the black hole wouldn’t be effective.
>>145867859>It doesn't count because I say so It's okay anon, just because the green cuckold solos your favorite verse doesn't mean you need to cope like this.
>>145867948Oops, meant to say “is dumb” after the GG part.
>>145867948Actually, I’m laughing at how Eri can deage Goku but not Mark
>>145863690Wildmutt
>>145866111>>145867999>THEY CANT KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH ITalso how is tnanon supposed to put his name over the eyes for a character with no eyes?
>>145867939But Mahito dying appeases everyone. Imagine your only confirmed kills being a cripple and a 9/10’s dead man. KWA->Gojo’s only important kills are a literal human and a disaster curse who was getting her shit rocked by a weak Yuji and Todo>Sukuna’s only important kills are Gojo and farm boyK-kwab….
Cloud Feats?Okay I shall post a legit cloud feat just for comparison
>>145868070I heard some people want Blackbeard to fight Shiggy
>>145868091He doesn’t have enough feats for that, and we can’t even really scale him to WB since he’s had the Quake Quake Fruit for like five years compared to WB’s decades worth of time.
>>145868072
>>145868070When you read the last portion of JJK (post Gojo death) without breaks it just kind of feels like a comfortably paced JRPG battle with the party slowly but steadily wearing down a boss's HP as they swap out to recoup. There's like a thirty chapter countdown till the end where it just feels like Sukuna is losing a numbers game and never actually recovers. It honestly makes it look like a very well controlled scenario, where poor Sukuna doesn't get a chance to get any more kills. It's hilarious that Gojo only helped with this by donating his body to science, even though everyone assumed he would be MVP.
>>145868158It’s a shame that that idea falls apart when you realize that Todo could’ve swapped Sukuna into a Hana’s ult or they could’ve TP’d him directly into the judgement sword or they could’ve made him blow up into a million pieces the second Gojo died with cursed speech times two.
>>145867999Ben10 chads keep on winning
>>145868072Mewtwo is shown to physical move clouds around using sheer telekinesis rather than using a power to summon his stormLegit cloud feat
>>145868192Besides some buildings getting fried, the method they went with barely had them any worse off. Hindsight is kinda pointless when they had a nearly deathless fight against Sukuna after Gojo fucked up and taught him the world slash shit.
>Super got Retconned B-Bros what about our infinite universe scaling?!
>>145868236Higurama surviving was incredibly goofy
>>145868263What was changed?
>>145867849Not even that, Shenron has completely restored the earth before including all it's technology. No reason he couldn't restore 16. Toriyama was probably just tired of the stupid fucker.
>>145868263Wait really? How
>>145868295>Toriyama was probably just tired of the stupid fucker.Or he didn't want 16's sacrifice to be meaningless
>>145867749Mass, but not inertia. It doesn't take megatons of energy to move a 100 tonne freighter on the ocean.
>>145861131>COMIC and CARTOON-related matchups in this thread onlyThen why did you post a /tv/ vs /a/ fightDumb mousecuck
>>145867788...'s laundry.
>>145868333>he didn't want 16's sacrifice to be meaninglessBuu Saga Goku says hi.
>>145867939I remember that episode, it's the one where the one of the hosts got turned into a gay pedophile
>>145868333This is the same series that made Krillin's death meaningless after he died a second time at the hands of Frieza.
Wiz is canonically transmasc
>>145868113>>145863690
>>145867925>Mirio beat a Pre chisaki deku>A Deku that didn't even have his 7 extra quirks >So we should scale him to EoS Deku who's way stronger than the one Mirio soloed ...
>>145868441That's bullshit but I believe it
>>145868451do his extra 7 lazyhandmeout quirks make his face and teeth stronger for Mirio's fist not to pummel and break into pieces? Didn't think so.
>Redestro reacts to and tanks Deku's attacks>Mirio speedblitzed Redestro after his powers were removed and decked him goodDamn MHA has MTFL and CONTINENTAL base humans??? Scalingbros i'm freaking out...
Composite versions covering all feats/powers/itemsAmy>Hammer>Super form>Boxing, apparently >Tarot card magic>Definitely the stronger one>Faster on footSally>Ring Blades >Deep Power Stones, which gives a super form like power up>Sword of Acorns>Martial arts and guerilla tactics >Riders hoverboard for speed>Definitely the smarter one
>>145863156This whole character has no win condition thing is more annoying than stomps. How strong is she supposed to be?
>>145868606Both make me cum. I win.
>>145868614Favorite character?
>>145868606>developer's pet vs. largely noncombatant character that only exists in like two and a half continuitiesHumiliation ritual
>>145868158nigga the only reason sukuna didnt oneshot all of them is because he was worn down by gojo and forced into giving up ten shadows
>>145868625Tailsko.
>>145868651>fanon
>>145868614Winners win, brother.
>>145863734Not including the part where he gets powers Kick-Ass still gets his ass kicked by regular goons
How is Columbo supposed to ack Light if he doesn't know any Japanese?
>>145868625Bejita
>>145868718Fortunately the episode will be sponsored by Duelingo.
>>145867760But but I thought Goku was immune to hax?
>>145868778That meme about Goku overpowering hax by charging up is so ironic now.
>>145868778>>145868798
>>145868823FRAUDku...
>>145868778>>145868798How many verses haxrape Dragon Ball now?
>>145868823All this because of the candy beam. For all we know it was because of the earings or only applied to Buu specifically
>>145868877Oh and the time skip thing but in the manga it wasn't like that
>>145868823>Only Vegito can resist hax nowSaiyanbros...
>>145868877There’s literally a guidebook statement that says Vegito specifically could fight as Candy because he has a special ability that allows him to do so.
>>145868778Not only is that never stated, but that's NLF as hell
>>145868876The Dragon Balls are like planetary max right? There’s your answer, might need even less than that honestly.
>>145868922>Not only is that never stated, but that's NLF as hellThat's everything in Dragon Ball bro
>All of Super got retconned out and Goku is explicitly vulnerable to transmutation nowThis is gonna be a tough pill to swallow for the Dragon Ball powerscalers.
>Tien has just been confirmed to have endless demon power and a demon king ancestor
>Tienstopped reading right there
>>145868955So Gremmy can turn Goku’s organs into cookies?
Gokubros...we lost again...
>>145868955MonsterCarrotbros... It's our time
Bejitabros it's official, our transmuting MOE characters would canonically beat up Goku
>>145869048He could just imagine a heart stopping virus but that's OOC
>>145869051Tien would use his demon powers to stop this.
>>145868955Super didn't get retconned? Super is still itself, canon to itself. Daima is separate and canon to itself, with a different cast.
So the Donut Witch from Adventure Time can just make Goku a fat little man in underwear?
>Gohan will either show up as a nerfed kid or show up as an adult meaning Buu didn't consider him a worthy opponentGohanbros...
>>145869107she can only remove magic from others, ki isn't magic
>>145869107he's already a little man in underwear, not much difference
Hopefully all this retconning allows us to get some lower-tier Dragon Ball MUs for once. I wanna see Tien vs Hiei, or Sayaka vs Yamcha, or Saitama vs Krillin
>>145869116>>145867555See here and she did it it a bagelhttps://youtu.be/KeiT9WShVWs?si=_nXTRnbiAwyZ40OW
>>145869127>Tien's third eye was Retconned into the demon king's source of endless powerHow is anyone supposed to compete with Demon King Tien?
>>145867760>>145867849>>145868778>>145868823>M...MORTY BUURRRP>MORTY I TURNED GOKU INTO PICKLE MORTYYYY>HE'S PICKLEKUUUU
>>145869127Who the fuck keeps asking for Saitama vs Krillin this match is dogshit and I'm saying that as someone who likes both of these franchises.
>>145869051Imagine getting your ass beat while getting your girl jacked. SuperGOD is that GUY
>>145869157they're both bald tho
>>145868901Can you post it?
>>145869051MY HERO
>>145869153>Goku could still use telekinesis to move himself around at infinite speed
>>145869107surebut she can do the same to Superman because it's magic Donut witch wins from a lot of characters since the powers she sealed from Jake are eldritch horror transdimensional powers
>>145869264Actually, Superman resist magic transmutation before…. Unlike Goku
>>145869272DC magic is not even magic tho
I don't know about all that but Marvel curbstomps the names being discussed ITT.
>>145868606>Sword of AcornsAmy's getting drained like a Caprisun, this isn't even a fight
>>145869312>Amy's getting drained like a CaprisunLucky…….
>>145868778Dende Shenron was capable of wishing away Broly despite Kami Shenron saying he can't wish away beings stronger then him, Dende Shenron also gave Piccolo an extra power up that's above Tournament of Power Goku and Bejitaso it goes Shenron (Dende) > Broly > Goku > complex hax abilities
So what would Popeye turn Goku into? Chinese takeout?
>>145869272he didn't resist the sort of magic that she has, he loses
>>145868333Gohan's character arc afterwards sure screws over that theory.
>>145869357Resists transmutation via Zatanna lessons bruh
>>145869339He just teleported Broly away, it’s not like he killed him he was just moved elsewhere. As for Orange Piccolo, from what I’ve heard he only got that boost as a favor and it’s not something Shenron can normally do.
Viltrubros, have any of our HEROES resisted transmutation before?
Every time the Dragon Balls come back they just become more powerful and ridiculousNext time on Dragon Ball:SOMEONE WISHES FOR A NEW UNIVERSE USING THE EARTH DRAGON BALLS BECAUSE DENDE CAME ON IT AND POWERED THEM UP AGAIN
Sounds like the Daleks could just turn Goku into a Dalek with the nanocloud
>>145869405I think Conquest?
>>145869417He resisted Atom Eve's atom-splitting attacks, different thing
Apparently Daima says Shenron can't accept wishes that have bad things inflicted on others, was this a thing before?
>Buu could've just farted on Fused Zamasu and then kicked both Zamasu and Goku Black's asses
>>145869405Eve could only burn off Conquest’s skin despite her powers working on a molecular level and her being able to regularly transmutate/alter things and living creatures when pushed to her limit.
>>145869356Popeye is for Bobobo
>>145869381She managed to transmute a shapeshifting eldritch horror into losing his powers entirelySuperman loses to Donut Witch
>>145869517>shapeshifting eldritch horrorJake shapeshifts and looks ugly. So what? Superman’s resisted stuff from stronger people. Or am I supposed to believe just because Jake is blue with several eyes, he’s stronger than Kryptonians
>>145869546ANTI SUPERMANBROS EMERGENCY DISCORD MEETING NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>145869453I mean, kinda? He couldn't kill Nappa and Vegeta but that was more because they were stronger than Kami but that specific rule was never stated
>>145869468Eve is dogshit and only uses her powers as a cheap and shitty Pink Lantern, its not a good showing
>>145869464So THAT’s why Beerus didn’t stop Buu when he was murdering and eating the Supreme Kais. He would’ve gotten eaten himself!
>>145869517Superman resists Dr Manhattan, who beats magic.But jobs to Amanda Waller, a strong independent black woman.
>>145869391Yeah but saiyans can't breathe in space so if he was teleported somewhere with no air he'd be screwed
>>145869546he's a better shapeshifter than kryptonians yesSuperman loses, and gets turned into diaper man
>>145869468That’s just because his smart atoms were also molecular, and thus gave him resistance to molecular manipulation. If he was transmutated via magic, I doubt the same would apply.
>>145869607Donut Witch is a strong independent woman, so Superman loses even harder
>>145869620Yeah but isn’t as strong so Clark obviously resists with feats supported by canon
>>145869606Does Sakuna's slash negate durability?
skibidi toilet transmutes goku into a skibidi via the skibidi cognitohazard song
Superman and Sonic vs Goku and Mario who wins
>>145869391yes and the fact that he could do that while Kami Shenron couldn't with the Saiyans because he was weaker then them shows us that Dende Shenron > Broly
>>145869649nope, he's diaper man now he's not resisted magic capable of transforming eldritch horrors sorry superman fans, you're still on equal footing with goku against Donut Witch
>>145869594>Eve is dogshitNo lies detected.>only uses her powers as a cheap and shitty Pink LanternNo lies detected.>its not a good showingArguable. The depth at which she can use her ability does help us know how much SA can protect Viltrumites.>>145869628No way of knowing since the only magic users in Invincible got fodderized by Alternate Mark’s apparently holy fists.
>Daima on it's way to singlehandedly obliterate all of Super's powerscaling wank and nerf Gokek even more
>>145869698>he's not resisted magic capable of transforming eldritch horrors>eldritch horrorIs that supposed to be a feat? Because no offense, pretty sure even Invinicibel beats Jake’s ass
>>145869673>transmutates Goku into gold
>>145869709isn't Daima a midquel between Buu and Super meaning Goku doesn't have God Ki yet?
>>145869651>sakunaeslbro... but no it doesnt. if it did then he would slice through every character instead of letting newbies like higurama live. it seems the invisible projectile dissipates or "breaks" after coming in contact with something sturdy enough/reinforced enough, leaving behind deep gashes instead of just going through
>>145869719and they'd also get transmuted by Donut Witch
>>145869647She not black, den she ack.
>>145869226goku doesn't keep powers in other forms, only vegito did
>>145869736>>145869719Plastic Man clears
>>145866111>>145867999Let's face it, are Touhou and Ben 10 the CHADS of Death Battle?
just speedblitz the witch
>>145869814I’ll speedblitz her womb with my dick, if you catch my drift.
>KING MIDAS I HEARD YOUR HANDS ABILITY TO TURN THINGS INTO GOLD IS PRETTY STRONG, LEMME FIGHT 'EM!
>>145869732Huh? What's all that? That doesn't exist anymore
>>145869825speedblitz indeed.
TransmutationGODS how are we feeling about all this?
>>145869836Loses to the Chocolate Touch
>>145869813>autisticly watching a number counter for the sake of gets>chadPick one and only one, stinky.
Watching it now, man I can't stand goku's japanese voice
Still undefeated btw
>>145869902We are THRIVING.
>>145869924>t. NikoBITCH who keeps failing all his gets
>>145869957>nikonikonikoYou don't have to admit all your autism at once, kaijutard.
>Hey Goku, thanks for agreeing to this fight. Let’s shake hands before we start, like honorable men.>Sure, no problem!>*Goku then falls into a mass-equivalent pile of skittles that Buu quickly slurps up
>Nikocuck immediately outs himselfKEKAROO I CAN'T BELIEVE IT'S THIS EASY!
>>145869931He is supposed to spund like a monkey. Son Goku stuff.that big chinese gane received the same complain
>>145870049More like that Granna VA must give some mad sloppy jaloppies to stay hired
>>145870085>Timmy can just replace the defeated part by wishing Goku was turned into a tacoGrim.
I genuinely think this is the breaking point for me. I’ll always love Dragon Ball, but I just can’t with this shit.
>>145870165wuss
>>145870085with access to the muffin Timmy unironically wins from everyone in this thread yes even your favorite character
>>145869955So if Goku can't breathe in space what did he actually do to this guy?
>>145870165>first episode is just a glorified recapkek truly a quintessential japanese move
>>145870085Cosmo wouldn't be able to grant that, surely a fight is a competition.
>>145870187rabbit magic
>Super makes it so that Sayians can’t breathe in space, lose to surprise attacks even in their strongest forms, and can’t lift heavy objects >Daima makes it so that transmutation, shrinking, and other hax just completely weaken themWhat’s next?
>>145870178no need for muffin, just turn him into a large fries then eat him
>>145870178He still needs to vocalize the wish. Anyone fast enough beats him
>>145870192>Glorified recap to a nearly 30 year old anime
>>145870170>you’re supposed to enjoy watching the newest installment of a series you love making everyone into weak-as-shit first graders (verbatim), whilst also continuing the cycle of stagnation preventing them from moving past the point of EoZCool. You do that. I’m not.
>>145870201Timmy's used wishes to beat people up, competition seems to require a prize and spectators
>>145870201>>145870254The rules and their willingness to follow em are inconsistent as fuck anyway. There's an episode where Cosmo literally just ripped out the page saying they couldn't help him so they could help Timmy win a competition.
>>145870287Timmy's also broken rules then wished for Cosmo's memories to be erased so Cosmo can't remember they broke them
>>145870201Could he wish too be stronger than Goku?>>145870211Heart by regular fire
>>145870338Yeah he did that in the Beach Bummed ep>Timmy is the same as Granolah
>>145870247it just goes over the buu saga stuff while some new characters go "WHAT??? HE DID WHAT? THIS GUY? WHO IS THIS GUY?? OH MAN THIS GUY WOWOOWOOWOWOW HOMINA HOMINA HOMINA WE GOTTA STOP HIM ZOO WE MAMA DRAGON BALLZ" and that's it I saved you 30 minutes
>>145870338>Could he wish to be stronger than GokuAs >>145870353 yes, however it depends on how it is interpreted. in Beach Bummed, it related to physical strength and it made Timmy dumber and dumber the stronger he got.
>>145870222nope you don't need to vocalize a muffin wish
>>145870211Confirming that they can’t blow up stars.
>>145870287If he asks Cosmo he'd do it. Cosmo is more of a rule breaker anyway
>>145870201Cosmo has broken Da Rulez before
>>145869727Bro, re-read.
>>145870382>>145870211Bejita in a diaper with a pacifier crying for his blanky
>>145870178Technically the Muffin is foolproof. Timmy avoided its affect via Santa's magic bag so there's likely plenty of equivalents to resist muffin fuckery. Plus Timmy is kind of a dumbass and allow for a workaround
>>145862287I'll talk to Max later about this.>>145864389>>145864413I'm amazed they resort to this fanfic math when simple logic would suffice.If Omni-man could make a disc as big as the sun, why didn't he make two or three and pull the planet away from its sun, completely killing the dinosaurs and their biosphere?Think less like a wannabe scientist and more like a wannabe writer.>>145864520Lightspeed means you can dodge a glowing projectile as fast as a softball. Universe means a volume that can fit inside a closet.>>145865762P2 isn't even if the same universe as Joker. What sort of argument is this?
>>145869727>>145870421>Mario just friendly fires out of the gate based
>>145870441isn't foolproof*
>>145870441>Plus Timmy is kind of a dumbass and allow for a workaroundmaybe early on that would be trueBut as of Secret Wish, Timmy is a mastermind at wishing He managed to canonically not only hide the fact he had fairies for 50 years (which nobody else has done before) but he also managed to, for that entire period, hide from the fairies he had broken one of their most critical rulesTimmy is an absolute mastermind at magical loopholes by now
>>145870441>>145870476also Santa's magic bag only works because it's powered by the magic of all fairies combined And if need be he can just ask Cosmo to change Da Rulez to make Santa's bag no longer protect
>>145870476To be fair, the fairies are also kind of retarded.
>>145870517He also managed to hide it from the Pixies who aren't retarded
>>145870510I thought Santa's stuff was based on christmas cheer or something? >>145870533Would the pixies even care? Unless we play with the joke where they said they'd get back at his ass in thirty something years and didn't notice he still looked like he was 10
Reminder that Superman can reality warp, create his own multiverse and transmute other people just like Dominus.Superman turns Goku into a chicken with just 1 thought, then deepfries him
>>145870556no, Santa's power comes from all the fairies giving all their combined powers to Santa on Christmas, which was a problem when Timmy wished every day was Christmas
>>145870451Otto, thoughts on Goku now proven to being vulnerable to transmutation?
>>145870431That unironically already happened in Super.
>Ki is being described as light magic in Daima now>there is also black magicCHADku? A FUARKINGGG MAGE!!!
>>145870685Does Asta beat him now?
Ki was always magic.
>>145870685Hey now Goku can go up against JRPG Mages, sweet!
>>145870685What the fuck are they doing?>>145870705It absolutely was not.
>>145870685>>145870705Magic absorber bros? We win.
>>145870685>Goku now jobs to Asta
>>145870730always has.
>>145870685Damn so Ki is officially Magic now... Superman is kinda bone
>ki retconned as magic>there exists white and black magic>Namekians are actually demonsKINO!!! Piccolo is a Demon.
>>145870730>>145870704>Asta, I challenge you!>*THONK*>You DO have magic>
>>145870757>Already asking for a 4-0 after Goku got hit with a transmutation vulnerabilitySome people never learn.
>Toriyama died for this
so Mr Satan IS the greatest martial artist in dragonball, everyone else is some for of wizard He's the only one to have ever legitimately won a world martial arts tournament
Look on the bright side, Gokucks. Maybe now that you're magic sissies you'll stand a chance against Kryptonians
So does all of this mean that the actual MU was Warrior Of Light Vs Goku?
>going from space opera to full on Monkey King againBased.
>>145870813I always felt like it was a mismatch to put him against Dan. That guy from Bleach always seemed like a more fitting fight, but Death Battle has also been strangely averse to using Bleach characters for some reason.
>>145870757Daima Goku is unironically in a worse spot than regular Z Goku. This shit is NOT good for power scaling, AT ALL.
>>145870803Superman v Goku 3 is what killed Toriyama. We tried to warn you that Superman can step out of the comic any time he likes but you wouldn't listen
>>145870823>The character listtroon was pushing as an opponent to try and avenge Goku's losses can now be used to curbstomp GokuOh the irony.
>>145870784I mean, Superman has been turned into a child via magic.At least twice what's your point?
>>145870451Thoughts on Max being a groomer degenerate?
>Goku is magic nowShit.....
>>145870899Superman as a child would still whup Goku
>>145870927No lies detected.
>>145862287>banning hurtful shit is badU Wut?
>>145870685My HERO!! Master of the arcane arts.
Gokubros he's coming for that ass
>>145870919It’s not going to matter, this shit is going to make Goku so fucking incredibly weak by the end of it, that characters like Superman are going to be inconceivable matchups for him.
A-A-A-At least our HERO can fight Harry Potter for a pity win now.........
>>145870614They've always been vulnerable to hax. It's why Guldo was on the Ginyu Force even with his low power level.>>145870901I'm going to assume he doesn't know his mod is a degenerate unless I hear otherwise.
>>145870993Harry Potter is for Percy Jackson
>>145869770Untrue, Goku keeps his power when he's transformed forcefully. Like both times he's been turned into a kid. He's also half of Vegito. Rick was also able to talk and function as a pickle so that's even more evidence Goku would keep all his abilities as a pickle. Pickle Goku solos.
>>145870993>Goku can now potentially lose to Harry Potter of all characters via transmutation
>>145871003>unless I hear otherwiseHear me out! He turned his mod into a degenerate
>>145870757You need the "save or die" kind of magic to beat Superman. Magic as physical force isn't going to work, but by all means push for Goku vs Superman 4, it would be hilarious.
>>145871024Goku could already lose against Harry Potter courtesy of killing curse
>>145870951Even the lolicon thinks Maxcord is fucked up!
>>145870025>All the skittles become sentient and kill the old nig- black fellow with infinite speed telekinesis.
>SuperKEKS already copingYup.
>>145871029Max always struck me as a hands-off kind of guy with regards to social media. I can see how behavior like this could slip beneath his notice.
>>145862265>>145862287HRT for minors should exist but should be regulated
Reminder Superman has magic powers but better than Goku's
>N-N-N-N-N-NOW THAT I HAVE MAGIC I CAN FINALLY BEAT YOU IN A FIGHT SUPERGOD-DONO SAMA!!!!!!!!!!!!!>W-W-W-W-Why are you laughing at me, JUST BECAUSE I'M A KID WHO IS EVEN WEAKER THAN ALL THE PREVIOUS TIMES WE'VE FOUGHT DOESN'T MEAN I'M GUARANTEED TO LOSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>145871058If desuarchive wasn’t down I’d post that guidebook page about candy sentience being a Vegito only thing.
>>145871058Only Vegiro can do that
I can tolerate anything from newer Dragon Ball fans, but I draw the line at Nozawa Slander.Have some respect for the woman that gave voice to your hero for the first time!
>>145871079Ew no fuck you. No one under 18 should be allowed to permanently alter their bodies this way. There are horror stories about kids regretting letting doctors and shrinks fuck them with the medical bill and them fuck their endocrine system when they were 15. Fuck you.
>>145871079>HRT for minors should existbut why?we don't allow them to drink or smoke, etc because that shkt will fuck up their growth. why would we make HRT an exception?
>>145871079Okay, groomer.
>>145871079... in bizarro world.
>>145871117>>145871109We allow plastic surgery for minors with parental consent , the bar has been lowered for it
>>145871079Gross.
>>145871087>Goku gets turned into adult at the end of Daima>ki is still magic>Ultra instinct is a magic spellKino.
>>145871077To be fair, Discord Mods are groomers. Max has no fault
>>145871155>Ultra Instinct is a magic spellThat fucks him in literally any MU that’s against someone who can copy spells/abilities or drain them.
>>145871030At this point Goku can get generate enough magic energy destroy a multiverse and summon 3 galaxies of kyrptionite and they'll still say Superman wins no diff given the level You have glazed this man.
>>145871143A nose job is not permanent hormonal alteration you suck fuck. You just want to pull kids into your femboy fetish. Go to hell.
>>145871155Damn, and he has no God Ki to go with that so he's even WEAKER when he fights Superman in their fourth match...........
>>145871189HEY. Don’t associate those types of fuckers with us femboy lovers. We love NATURAL cute men.
>>145871154I needed it a s a teenager, and I understood there were side effects but I was willing to take them. I’m not saying they don’t get pushed on children, but I don’t think the option all together should be abolished
>>145871089You're going to be shock who half of Vegito is. Nothing says Goku wouldn't be able to do it. Should be valid enough for Death Battle.
>>145871169Ottocord has no mods and is tranny groomer free. Coincidence?
>>145871143>We allow plasticthat is all you needed to say.People are just realizing that they should be concerned.Plastic in your balls, plastic in your brain.People around the world has been adopting the angloamerican way lf life despite warningshttps://youtu.be/LcSdIQfNlKY
>>145871210Were you going to die from lack of hrt or something?
>>145871212Bitch, you’re half your mother and I don’t think that you can carry kids or give out milk.
>>145871246An odd but apt metaphor.
>Jimmy Neutron can beat Goku with the cheese ray
Holy FUARK, I can GIVE BIRTH despite being MALE because I’m HALF of my MOTHER and have HALF of an XY CHROMOSOME……….
>>145871234No, it’s because I was severely foresee and experiencing gender dysphoria. I had several of ny relatives protest the idea, but my parents supported it. I don’t think it was an attempt to groom me, and I honestly as more comfortable with my body afterwards.I wanted something I couldn’t obtain without HRT. And while I know some kids are pushed, saying it shouldn’t exist at all doesn’t feel right either.
My XY chromosomes are 50% the same as my mother's so that means I am literally a woman.I am a Gokubro if it wasn't obvious.
>>145870919>Morbius can kill SupermanSo THAT’s why the refuse to give him a Marvel fight
Only hormone you should take is TEST for gains. Being JACKED as fuck is GREAT!!
So Is this the thread where we discuss that teenagers experience unusual levels of hormones that alter their psyche, and one shouldn't fuck with that?
>>145871087Death Battle has glazed Superman to point where having the infinity gauntlet and fighting a planet made of Kryptonite will still resulting in Superman stomping. Not because he's actually this powerful in the comics but because they like meat riding him for some reason.
>>145871186But would goku know what that is
>>145871213I just never saw the need for mods. If there's ever a problem with the server people can just message me. Maybe its because I'm' just such a tiny server but I just don't see why there needs to be mods.>>145871279You took a life-altering procedure as a child. I hope you won't regret it in your old age and I mean that without sarcasm. But you say that it is a problem that hrt is pushed on children. How do you know it wasn't pushed on you as a child?
FUCK william afton. he is a shoddy ripoff of alexander of brennenburg>very old guy finds a substance that grants eternal life but requires human suffering/death to obtain>apprentice ends up turning on themthe difference is that alexander dies in 1 game and doesnt keep coming back for no fucking reason
>>145871322Isn't that just puberty?
>>145871343>t.Michael Afton
>>145871326>Infinity Gauntlet>He thinks that piece of shit still means anything after CHADseid put KEKnos in his place
>>145870201the real problem is that Timmy wouldn't be smart enough to wish for that
>>145871087being turned into a child makes him even more vulnerable to Superpedo
>>145871408and General Blue
>>145871340Because I hard to argue for several weeks and go through differnet doctors . Was it presented as an option? Yes. Was it my only option, no I was also told to wait or to simply dress differently . But at the time it felt like I couldn’t wait. Because I couldn’t be comfortable with my bod y as it was, I wanted the chance to change it. I can’t say my expiernces are universal, and yes, children are at risk of having a decision pushed on them. I know doctors don’t always look out for their patients. I’m not naive. I don’t treat it as a magic potion to make me one gender. But I wanted something to make my life more comfortable because I was having issues that other alternatives couldn’t solve. And HRT fit right for me. So banning it outright doesn’t seem like a viable solution to me. I can’t say I know how every depressed teenager feels, but we shouldnt be acting on a case of blindly shutting down one side.
>>145871466>Because I hard to argueand?
>>145871477I feel that’s more or less a sign that no, people didn’t WANT me to have nothing but HRT as my option. I can’t exactly go into the mindset I had back then, beyond memories
>>145870403that only happened as a result of constant rules being broken around the world since Jorgon got Gojo'd or something I can't remember
>>145871466How old were you exactly? 16, 17?
>>145871327I'm saying it wouldn't matter if he did. Wouldn't matter if he used Kryptonite.Wouldn't matter if he used magic.Wouldn't matter if he had a bigger cosmology or new haxs or anything.Onnidock shows that it doesn't matter what level a Dragon ball characters are a comicbook character can always be glazed to a new level. Even if they have to be a bit dishonest about it.
>>14587153914 when I began to feel the urges, 15 I was in therapy and learned I was trans and around 16 when I found antidepressants and therapy weren’t helping with my body dysmorohia even with changing my regiments
>>145871566Holy shit they put you on hrt at 16?
>>145871566The shrink you saw at 15 fucked you for your entire life.
Battleboarding is primarily a form of debateThe entire point of debate is that you winCheating is perfectly fine and acceptable as long as you either aren't caught or, more importantly, no one can do anything about it
>>145871543Omnidock wanked Bardock as hard as they possibly could. He lost because he’s weak
>>145871566Question but what age limit would you put on hrt? Can you give hrt to a toddler?
>>145871500>I can’t exactly go into the mindset I had back then, beyond memoriesBecause you weren't thinking.hormones during puberty will often push decisions for you, same effects as with usage of drugs.I still find silly how you humans believe you were in control of anything during that period
>>145871566Are you a Superbro or a Gokubro
>>145871583Yeah. And I’m not going to say it was a perfect transition. There were times when I felt like it hurt me more than it helped until I grew used to it.Shouod every teenager be forced to go through the difficulties? Of course not, the last thing anybody wants if trouble teenagers being forced to take on something they’re not ready. But I think choice should be allowed to exist, even with the very real chances HRT is given to teenagers who aren’t emotionally ready
>>145871543Hey chin up anon, Dragon ball has like 8 wins
>>145871606>Battleboarding is primarily a form of debate>The entire point of debate is that you win>Cheating is perfectly fine and acceptable as long as you either aren't caught or, more importantly, no one can do anything aboutshhhlet us enjoy this
>>145871643Are you a Gokubro or a Superbro
>>145871621Why not? What is the actual serious argument against it? A toddler is no more in control of their emotions and feelings than an unstable adult
>>145871621Teenage years should be an option, though it would be a little self serving for me to say 16 should be the set mark>>145871642Superman>>145871635I wasn’t exactly without any autonomy or agency of my own. I’ve heard similar arguments of brain development not finishing until post teenage years, I don’t think it should be a hard number to choose
>>145871664LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>145871664>A toddler is no more in control of their emotions and feelings than an unstable adultdon't be retarded. They absolutely do.It seems you think they have all the functions we had in adulthood. do you just nlt understabd what development is?
where new thread
>>145871695S-SUPERBROS... OUR RESPONSE?
>>>145871695>S-SUPERBROS... OUR RESPONSE?
>>145871695Otto sisters...we need to memoryhole this thread as soon as possible ASAP. POST THE IMAGE
>>145871609>Exaggerate viltrum sizes in order to upscale its destruction.Guidebook state than saying it's only has 1.24 x gravity. Which caps the feat at sub planet level. > Didn't even mention the infinity ray helping with the feat. >Didn't divide the feat to account for the help.> Claims Ship scales to the Sun disc even though lasers don't generate recoil. So a ship firing a laser that that doesn't mean the ship durability scales to that. >Sun disc Cals on there are a can of woms.>Bardock was wank but no where near Nolan they were making up shit for him the win.
>>145871795GOKUXIRS EMERGENCY DISCORD MEETING NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>145871695>>145871800>Anon chose the jewish superheroPenis Status: MUTILATED
>>145871795Gokubros, we MUST delete this thread from the ARCHIVES..........
>>145871757please, no.let us die
New thread>>145871871
>>145871466That you had to argue for several weeks does not mean you weren't pushed. Were you pushed, were you not, that's ultimately only something you can say. But you were a child when you underwent this procedure. To be a child is to be naive. That's the point here. No one would care if you were 18 or 20 when you did this to yourself. The point is that you did it at 16, when similar life-altering experiences are barred. You can't smoke at 16, or drink, or join the military, or drive, or have sex. You lived with your parents and went to school. The life you lived was fundamentally not an adult life.Now we could argue over what the age to be an adult and to be rational enough to do things is. 21? 18? 17? Different states and countries set different limits on specific things. But there needs to be a limit, right? There needs to be an "Adult and rational past this age, child and naive before" limit.>>145871695We have some common ground then. You feel a person is adult enough for hrt at 16. I feel they need to be 18. But at least we agree there has to be a limit. Children, define them as you will, should not be given hrt, and we can agree on that.
>>145871824>Exaggerate Viltrums sizeThe gravity doesn’t contradict its size, and they have no number for its gravity. >Didn’t mention the infinity rayBecause that would be a detriment for Bardock’s argument, not contradict it. Explaining how the star buster couldn’t destroy the planet but the Viltrumite fists could wouldn’t exactly do anything but upscale their strength.>Didn’t divide the feat Because Nolan upscaled from it to the point where it’s argued he could do it solo. That’s something the blog also brought up.>Ship durabilityI’ll give you that one but even then it’s irrelevant because Viltrumites can beat the hell out of each other yet COP weaponry is ineffective.>Sun diskIt’s something that no one is going to agree on until we see it in the show. Calcs for its size and AP differ wildly.
>>145871901For clarification, “they” means DB, not Invincible.
>>1458716487 wins you mean, and only Dan Hibiki was legitmate.
>>145871891Of course there has to be a limit, I’m not some blind idealist. I can support being allowed to stress, but obviously bodily changes are something that should be taken with more restriction, let alone the idea of a child under ten transitioning physically
>>145871891>we could argue over what the age to be an adultwe cannot now. microplastics have poisoned data, and before thst was asbestos and lead in the car's smoke (and before that: seed oils and corn syrup)
>>145871901> A planet with fourteen times earth size 14 times but only 1.24 would be over 11 times less durability than Earth Probably why they didn't mention the gravity. > If a gun that has no star level feats and fail to destroy an object that should be over 11,000 weaker than star. That is not a boon for the object.That's an antifeat for the Gun.> And how did they came to the conclusion He could have done it solo?> Being ineffective against viltrumites can mean anything for too slow or too inaccurate.
Why do people have to prescribe HRT? Why not therapy or drugs to target the feeling of dysphoria instead? We don't tell other body dysmorphics like anorexia that their altered sense of self image is something to be indulged.
>>145870454"I don't need an ally" and then he soloswhat a faurkin' chad
>>145871466>i just needed it to get by...Just sounds no different from onset alcoholism or drug abuse, which it technically is.
>>145870035>if you identify me by my uncontrollable idiosyncracy, you out yourselfwut
>>145869813Yes, just see the seething reply
>>145873024...he seethed, on page 10 after bump limit.
>>145873050>t. crying LOSER BITCH who can't get any getsSeethe MOAR, BITCH!
>>145868899The STRONGEST fusion remains on top, yup.
>>145869309...at the "flop at the box office" contest.
>>145870178SHITmmy isn't even wall level. Get BUTCH LESBIANman's garbage out of here.
