All Stolas had to do was not be gay and the entire plot of Helluva Boss wouldn't have happened.
All Stella had to do was not have a stinky vag and the entire plot of Helluva Boss wouldn't have happened.
>>146100224Stolas...
Id fuck the shit outta a HB succubus.
>>146100240Don't do it anon, protect your loosh!
>>146100240Good.
>>146100240Resist demonic temptation, anon.
I gave up on the show after it started being solely relationship melodrama in most episodes.
>>146100439Based!
>>146100187All Stella had to do was not be a mega bitch every second of the day and everything would have turned out fine.
>>146100511Viv...
>>146100438Season 2 is a different show really.
>>146100683Next you'll say, >That unsolicited opinion piece by a self-admitted schizo
>>146100187When is the new episode
>>146100511We're suppose to be getting a flash back episode that will, supposedly, explain why Stella is a King-Kong Bitch, but at this point it's not going to work.
>>146100701Halloween.
>>146100721Ty, I thought they only did weekend releases.
>>146100778Yeah halloween is what I've been hearing. I wonder if they changed anything from the leaks but... probably not.
>>146100830I doubt it. The only audience vivzie cares about is twitter and they love s2s direction.
>>146100872Makes me happy that Loona barely gets attention, I'd rather she not get fucked up like Moxxie. She's better off a borderline background character and /co/ OC.
>>146100889I'd be fine with her getting a short, since those seem to embody the spirit of s1 more. But otherwise I agree.
>>146100985A short would be nice. I just hate that I'm biting my nails hoping she doesn't ruin her in some blaze of spite or incompetence.If anything I'd rather you direct the short since your comics have me laughing way harder than the show does.
>You fell asleep one night, and discover yourself in Hell. Seems you had an aneurysm in your sleep.>Because you slept with your phone, it's spirit came with you to the afterlife.>You can shitpost on Hell's version of 4chan's /co/ board, with all the anons that passed over the years.Would you spend eternity shitposting, or would you explore your new reality?
>>146101274Why wouldn't I do both?
>>146101274>All the "Happening" threads on /pol/ during every extermination, most are just neets who are related to overlords or hellborn in other circles>The hellborn on sinner racism during those same threads.>Everyone on /b/ insisting fapping to Angel Dust is not gay>/Tv/ constantly fapping to Velvette while architect threads about Mimzy overflow
>>146101417>go to /an/>it's not a blue board>... that's a naked hellhound>oh fuck that's a LOT of naked hellhounds
>>146100187>Stolas is straight>Stella is still always stupid evil>Stolas longs for a better lover>Blitzo still tries to steal the grimoire and fails>Loona pulls a Beauty and the Beast to get him free>most of the plot of Helluva Boss happens but now:>Stolas/Blitzo is out>Stolas/Loona is in>Stella actually has a chance to tempt Stolas and gets conflict with Loona>more Loona>less focus on Blitzo>Octavia and Loona have more contact and some conflict>Blitzo trying to get Loona free from Stolas
Based on the Pilot I thought Stolas was just a scu mag wonwanted sex and didn't care for his wife.
>>146100511>>146100703I hated that they retconned the idea that Stella is (rightfully) pissed because her husband is ruining their family by fucking an imp and making a public embarrassment of themselves. Nope, she was just a mean child from the beginning and Stolas is the poor uwu baby that did nothing wrong. So dumb
>>146101630>Stolas stuck in a love triangle between his aristocrat wife and a commoner houndWhy does it work so well?
>>146100187Even if Stolas was straight he's such an unsympathetic lame ass. I can understand a rich person trapped in a bad situation where he's ranking low on the hierarchy. But the issue is Stolas is the one who ranks ABOVE Stella and her trash family. He could easily destroys these usurpers and there you go. It's not like Stolas is trying to survive against higher ranking demons like the Deadly Sins or Lucifer himself.Stolas's problem is he's allowing himself to get bullied by a weak stupid bitch. And don't tell me Stella is not stupid her own brother called her stupid. So what does that make out of Stolas? That he's a bigger idiot. Viv is simply a terrible writer entirely. She's so bad that even when Stolas fights back against Stella he still comes across as too incompetent to live. And lets not forget how Stolas is written to NOT know that his wife wants to kill him despite she screaming about it directly in front of him. Not even a slight suspicion, Stolas is written as being totally ignorant of this fact.This is why both Hazbin and Helluva are terrible the writing is inexcusably bad.
>>146101683Pilot stolas is a completely different character.
>>146101526Meanwhile, /x/ is just a circlejerk of people bragging about how they were right when they were alive
>>146101855>Stolas didn't love her at first but he tried.>When him and Stella had Octavia, it felt like they might actually have a shot at being a happy family.>There was a time when they were happy, as evidenced by LooLoo Land.>Time drifted them apart. Smiles softened into lines. Not resentment but. Complacency.>He's bored.>Then, Blitzo shows up.>Ooh, a fun little toy. How neat.>When Stella finds out, though...
>>146101972I liked Pilot Stolas. He could've been a good use of IMP.>Every now and again he sends them up to kill someone who would improve Earth, like a genuinely nice senator, an activity, someone.
>>146101891Its why a genderflip does so much, because Stella (Stellen?) would hold the power. Stolas lacking agency is at least understandable then.>>146102028Sinners can't leave Pride.
>>146102042Stellan technically. What is stopping them from leaving Pride, is it some sort of force, a magical barrier, boarder control, what?
>>146102065>Huh. Aliens are real. >Are they Angelic or Demonic?
>>146102063>What is stopping them from leaving Pride, is it some sort of force, a magical barrier, boarder control, what?No clue, Viv never elaborated.
>>146102149>Yes they can.Tell Viv that, dude. I'm just telling you what the canon is, I didn't write the dang thing lol
Anybody have this Grim reaper standee image in a not-horrible resolution? I forgot to save it when it was still up on Sharkrobot's servers, I want to reference it for a halloween drawing
>>146102238>Loona wears shorts to swim.Classy.
>>146102238Dang hounds need their nomolestol shots.
>>146102238this reminds me of those weird ass helluva boss and loud house crossover images
>>146101726Retconning would need her to be have been changedWe knew nothing about her but that she had tea with friends and made her husband get out of bed to check on the kid.
>>146102243You halfdime? I request a nsfw edit of said image either way.
>>146102243Also, love this Grim Reaper costume. I want to draw it for Halloween, something in particular you guys want to see of her?
>>146102407Yes and thank you, that's exactly what I needed. I want to try some kind of peeking, or at least more revealed skin
>>146102083>UFO shows up in hell>abducts some imps and leaves>this is never elaborated on>>146102243I'd trick or treat with her.
>>146102409Any and all loona art is appreciated.
>>146102238WHY are all hellhounds like that?
>>146102585Loona corrupted this poor boy.Or was that Hell 4Chan?
>>146102585kys pedo
>>146102409>something in particular you guys want to see of herTrick or treating with Octavia.
>>146102585Fucking IMAGINE
>>146102409Her getting threatened with litigation by Death from Puss in Boots. And make sure she looks scared for real. None of that girl boss bullshit.
>>146102666That's a child, Satan
Friggin' JURASSIC amount of ass.
>>146102690He lives in Hell.Worst will happen.
>>146102700
>be a bee twin>both of you can shift your ass>but since you're linked, you share the same amount of ass mass>and one of you is hogging all the ass
>>146102700nice
>Be me.>Go to heck.>Oh noes.
>>146101417>The hellborn on sinner racismI wonder if that's an actual thing, like imagine if the Hellborn all love Extermination Day, its like the Superbowl for them to watch all the Sinner fucks get slaughtered.
>>146102974>People with cameras filming it for LiveLeak. Like, actual LiveLeak. All dead websites end up in Heaven or Hell depending on content.>Bets are made.>Teams form around sinners who become entertaining and escape in interesting ways.
>>146102585Definitely a powerbottom
>>146102974I can see it. I mean, look at it from a hellborn's perspective: the majority seem to view humans as dirt. And yet, when sinning humans get sent to Hell, not only do some of them become insanely powerful, but they're also placed higher on the totem pole without having to do anything (not counting the Ars Goetia and Sins, of course, assuming they're actually born in Hell).
>>146103156The idea of Hell's natural denizens hating humans is ridiculous because they intentionally go to Earth to encourage humans to sin so they can end up in Hell. Not to mention they antagonizing human sinners who are immortal gaining certain powers is idiotic because any human who gets sent to Hell will be immoral and would kill imps, hellhounds, etc strictly out of spite if they are insulted.
You are now imagining Loona as a MILF at the age of thirty. Have fun.
>>146103156Hey halfdime, I've been wondering how you feel about Loono. I know you said you didn't want to draw a FemVortex because other artists did a pretty solid one already. >>146103231Ten years together... nice.
>>146103230Best not to apply too much logic to Viv's creations. They fall apart rather easily.That said, aside from incubi and succubi, which hellborn go up to the surface specifically to encourage sin? Cause from what we've seen of imps and (to a lesser extent) hellhounds, they flat-out don't give two fucks about humans.
>>146103295He's cute, but I prefer girl Loona. I mean, just look at her!right now I'm trying to figure out whether to lean heavier into "scary" or "sexy" for the grim reaper costume. I definitely want both to an extent.I definitely want both
>>146103351Can't argue with Loona Classic.>she found the Loono folderScare-roused has its charm, oh boy does it have a charm.
>>146103301NTA but I imagine the loan sharks (pun not intended) might do so for some embezzlement and debt fuckery from Greed.Demons from Envy might frequent film sets and broadway musicals to incite such feelings in actors.And Wrath demons would probably be around warzones, dictatorships and therapy lounges to make certain patients blow a fuse.
>>146103384I dig this a lot. And it makes me mad that we'll never see any of it in the show proper.
>>146103433It probably does happen the mere fact that we know Lust's demons do go to Earth means, what about the demons that represent the other Deadly Sins? Easy to imagine that all Food Eating Contests are courtesy of Gluttony demons inspiring it.But that's not the priority of the show. The focus is on a shitty homosexual melodrama and the main characters are all unlikable sacks of shit who deserve to be killed.
>>146103492A good question is why is Asmodeus charged with regulating crystal distribution and travelling methods to the mortal realm?Is it because succubi/incubi are the most deceptive and secretive of all demons such that flitting between the two realms naturally compliments them?
>>146103526That is to say, why strictly Asmodeus?
I wish we had more lore on how overlords become overlords. We know souls are practically currency, but how do you go from random joe schmoe to owning your first soul? It can't be easy or everyone would have at least one.
>>146103697>>146102238Quit posting furry female molesting a human child. The mods don't like that. The rule is way too clear on this one.
>>146103771Anon... that's e621 rules...
>>146103605Presumably souls are both currency and a power source.For the latter, you theoretically need just the soul. Living or dead. Meaning you can snatch up a dead sinner, lost soul or some unlucky schmuck in a binding infernal contract to further your potential.
>>146102585>furry cleavage gets deleted>dog child with a dick outline is left upHurm.
>>146103908>childNot in dog year
>>146100683>08/01/2022
>>146103908More surprised this image was left alone >>146102238Come on that's more sexual due to the sexy swim suits. And the actual shota in there.
>>146103991Uhhh they're chilling in a pool man
>>146103230Now I’m wondering if there’s some sort of laws and enforcement to protect the weaker hellborn from the immortal more powerful Sinners, like Lucifer ensured they were protected from extermination this showing he’s got clear preference for their kind over evil humans, so you’d think he’s got some higher ranking demons meant to protect the lower hellborn. Viv honestly has a large setting for possible world building but she just ignores it for the gay melodrama, it’s very disappointing.
>>146102585Well fuck it, as long as this dude's post is staying up I might as well have fun with it.
>>146104084Here's a template btw
>>146100698That unsolicited opinion piece by a self-admitt-
>>146103991That pic was commissioned for a fanfiction with no sexual activity. Mine wasn't just furry cleavage; it was from a known porn artist and there was a hint of areola. I don't know about Lil' Neegan with a visible erection. It would be better if the mods told everyone why they delete the pics they do. We wouldn't have to trial and error so much.
>>146104111He look like he lure innocent straight human men for sex
>>146104022>Now I’m wondering if there’s some sort of laws and enforcement to protect the weaker hellborn from the immortal more powerful SinnersIt would explain why sinners don't go fuck I.M.P. up after getting killed.
>>146104111>I was cellmates with her>sure you were
>>146100683This post is kinda rightThey changed what was HB about since the pilot. Show was like Family guy before but since ep 1 Its really the same show even on s2
>>146102700>What the hell?! We literally just got here!
>>146101891I mean yeah stolas is a wimp raised in a powerful family. If he didnt care he would murder the bitch long time ago with his stone powers.
>>146103605Alastor is just THAT good of a dealmaker. He charmed the pants off of a few stupider sinners and just worked his way up (perhaps with the help of another evil force roo ?
>>146104608So I could theoretically arrive in hell and immediately swooce up any random crackhead and boom, I own a soul?
Alright, I've gotta head out to see some friends, but I'll drop this before I go. Here's the sketch so far, nudie warning https://files.catbox.moe/cl72k7.png I think I want to go spooky with the face, I only ever really draw her happy or sexy, not scary so it'd be a fun change of pace
>>146104626My friend, I love your art. Go have fun.
>>146104626>it's not a glare>she just remembered she's not wearing pantiesKino, dude. Have fun.
>>146104622If you can manage to make a deal with them in exchange for it, sure
>>146104754>find crackhead>bribe him with crackDone deal.
>>146104764>He comes back later to complain about the quality of the crack and asks for a refund
>>146104779>Sorry, it's in the contract, no refunds
>>146104626God damn you are quick, outline looks great!
>>146104779>>146104788>"Look it's all singed around the edges!"
>Blitzo adopts her way earlier, like 10 or so.>Has the cringy Homestuck phase when she hits her teens.
am i the only one who comes to these threads for the goth birb?i literally dont care about any other character or whatever, i only come here to look at pictures of octavia and talk about her
>>146104981I'm pretty engaged in the hootgame posting and all the 'Tav' and anon apprentice stuff.
>>146104981Yes, anon. You are literally the only person on this planet who comes for content regarding Octavia.
>>146105013come on, you know what i meanti only come here for octavia, nothing else
>>146104981I too am an octavia enjoyer. But she's always gonna be less popular than any of the main cast.She's been in what, 3 episodes? There are background characters who show up more than that.
>>146105032Then just post the bird, you silly billy.
>Octavia>avia>AvianGuys... I think she might be a bird
>>146105039That's such a cute drawing
>>146104668How do girls "forget" that anyway? It seems to happen often. As in actually, truly forget. I forget my house keys more than I've forgotten my underwear.
>>146105100The artist does good work
Would Octavia try trick or treating with you as herself, counting on people perceiving her features as a costumeOr would she actually get/make herself a dedicated one?
>>146105269Both
>>146105274This. Vampire owl.
>>146105293A Vampire Owl, or Vowls, are menaces this time of year.
>>146105269I would encourage and help her make a costume of something she liked.
What's she listening to?
>>146105706>This is not a song, it's a sandwich!
>>146105116Who knows dude, considering how esoteric women's fashion is and that thongs are barely even clothes if I were a woman I'd probably forget my panties too.
>>146104626You should not be using catbox to link to porn. The mods don't like that tactic.
>>146105706https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZAD7W3M4zc
>>146100187Big, stupid, gay birb.
Is this show and/or Hazbin worth watching?
>>146105039
>>146106458I wouldn't bother. Helluva is okay but season 2 takes a nosedive, Hazbin is not worth sitting through imo.
>>146106458Only you can make that call. Try it, don't try it, I'm not youAlso it's not that simple. Even if the show's execution is ass, it still has these threads that remain attached to various aspects of Viv's work
>>146106458Only the first season of helluva boss. Everything else is exactly what you expect it to be, which is gay tumblr romcom writing.
>>146106458They are worth watching but they are not perfect. Both have numerous plot holes/creative decisions that will leave you scratching your head, Hazbin hasn't used it's time to establish itself well, and Helluva let it's lgbt soap opera stuff overshadow the dark comedy/worldbuilding elements that fans preferred. And if you hate lgbt stuff it isn't worth your time.It's like Skyrim in a way. See the canon content then enjoy fan content.
>>146106668>It's like Skyrim in a way. See the canon content then enjoy fan content.That's the most apt way to put it.
>>146102974I think the Hellborns were sometimes killed by the Exterminators over the years with them being mistaken for Sinners, a few of them looking like sinners, living the Pride Ring alongside Sinners and even accidentally being in the Pride Ring during the yearly Extermintions and getting caught up in them, but these accidental killings of Hellborns have always gone unnoticed and unrecorded.
>>146100438All musical shows would work better as an audio drama change my mind
>>146107066It's okay, if you label them all sinners afterwards then your civilian body count stays at zero.
>>146106458To build upon what others have said: Hazbin has three seasons worth of material condensed into eight episodes, with all the emotional peaks shaved off, and zero breathing room. The writing itself can be unfathomably retarded, too.Oh, and compared to the pilot, the character designs (and to a lesser extent, their voices) got a massive downgrade.If you absolutely MUST watch some of Viv's crap, go with the Hazbin Hotel pilot and the first season of Helluva Boss (be aware, though, that the cracks begin to form at the tail-end), and then call it a day. It's all downhill from there.
>>146106668>worldbuilding elementsI can't believe you have to pay for her patreon for basic lore details.
>>146104857Kek, this just makes me want a boondocks in hell.
>>146105889That's literally the entire point of catbox
>>146105889>>146107946Jannies tend to be a little 50-50 on it, in any case it's more polite and less egregious than just posting it directly and flashing people with nsfw art.
>>146102238I hate to much that fic, is so stupid besides being just shotabait.
Did Viv in that new stream really said she doesn't like Octavia? If so then Holy hell is this story beyond salvation
>wake up to the feel of her sucking and slurping your morning wood until you bust, with her greedily licking and swallowing up the last of your semen>then after a shower, a full breakfast of bacon, eggs, sausage and pancakes to start your day (she always conjures up too much)>finally, a peck on the lips from that foxy muzzleWhat a way to start off the day...>>146108483What? Timestamp, now.
>>146105059Hootgame...
>>146108483Would explain a lot, honestly. Poor Octavia is just like Millie in that they're both woefully underdeveloped and satellites to soft bean male characters. They will NEVER appear without the other.Viv turning Octavia 'asexual' was another stroke of deliberate vengeance, as far as I'm concerned.
>>146108625Viv is one of the most spiteful authors I've ever seen, imagine sabotaging your own show because your audience is enjoying it the 'wrong' way. I wonder if that's why Loona's chest size got drawn flatter in season 2.
>>146108705You're a silly little guy.
>>146108665I wouldn't be surprised; Vivzie is thoroughly anti-sex UNLESS it involves a male character, especially in an uncomfortable scenario such as rape. Cause her and that storyboard artist have a thing for itOctavia being asexual now is particularly cruel to me, for not only is she largely neglected, but now she can never experience a healthy sexual connection with another person.
>>146108654She is a kid in a broken family that is hurt by the fact that her parents hurt each other and her father is concerned more about getting dicked by someone else than her and doesn't even look for her or seemingly doesn't care about what she wants and uses her as a means to get closer to his lovers who is a terrible piece of shit. Stolas is not owed anything by Octavia and Octavia is a responsibility of Stolas. And just because Stolas has hots for Blitzo doesn't mean she has to like him or even tolerate him. In fact it would be awful, AWFUL writing if she did. And her situation is one I relate to as someone from a broken family and the fact that they portray this family conflict as something with clear good and bad side and Octavia being vilified by the writers is a fucking disgrace and show of how absolutely out of touch those writers are. I will stick to writing my own thing in HB as I could not care less now about writing in show proper. What a fucking joke.
I wish there was more succubus art.
>>146108751>especially in an uncomfortable scenario such as rape. Cause her and that storyboard artist have a thing for itGot any receipts on that? I mean I don't doubt it but if there's proof of that I wanna see it. >Octavia being asexual now is particularly cruel to me, for not only is she largely neglected, but now she can never experience a healthy sexual connection with another person.As odd as it is with her being 17, Viv caving to that is way worse. And yes, it is caving if you're letting people you don't like compromise your work. It'd be better to just write them off as weirdos and move on, you didn't see Toriyama making statements on Goku and Vegeta's sexuality just because he noticed some yaoi fics a couple times.
>>146108794>t.
>>146102409Draw Puss in Boots death trying to teach her how to actually reap souls while she's just looking at her phone ignoring the lesson
>>146108810I don't have tweeta, but the guy who made that new Angel Dust video about him being bad SA representation showed those tweets. He also showed that this storyboarder also said to a 15 year old he would spend them nudes... And I saw a tweet where he said he will... Come from another of theirs... Yeah... And Viv defends them still.
>>146108830You reminded me of that post from the official Stolas account seething over Octavia art
>>146108881>He also showed that this storyboarder also said to a 15 year old he would spend them nudes...The fuck
>>146108810The artist in question nuked his socials, but I was able to find this: https://www.zerochan.net/R2ninjaturtle?s=id
I'm back, only want to say I think this drawing is going to be really cool. About to get started on the lines
>>146108948Good shit.
>>146108973Poor thing :(
>>146103605I have an autistic headcannon on how that works.To start, there are different types of sinners, and the type determines how they gain strength. The common categories are contract demons, influence demons, and powerhouse demons.Contract demons are what you expect, demons who gain power via contracts. They get some power with every contract they make, determined by the severity of the contract. Valentino is an example of this.Influence demons gain power through perception. The more people that know the name, watch the demon, believe them to be strong, the stronger they are. This would be Vox.Powerhouse demons are the most straightforward. They simply get stronger with age. The longer this kind of demon is alive, the stronger they are. They're generally brought into hell with the highest base strength, but grow the slowest. This is probably what that dino demon was, I'd hope Velvet is this kind as well, just to round out the V's
>>146108483Vivziepop clearly just sees octavia as a plot device, not a real person. She's the excuse for why stolas stayed with stella so long, and why stella can't kill stolas. The story gives her basically 0 agency, existing solely as another way to poke stolas in the feels. Since thats all vivzie gives a shit about now.
>>146109083I got to thinking about how KOTH handles relationships and family dynamics, and now I wish Mike Judge had taken over directly after the pilot.>>146109024That actually sounds pretty cool, would not complain if this is how it ended up actually working.
>>146104520>my memory has just been sold>my hellhound is the centerfold
Reminder that Viv and friends made an official cover of a fan song and omitted a line that had Stolas acknowledge Octavia being caught up in his bullshit, just so they could have MAXIMUM gay imp obsessionThat's some of the funniest fucking shit that also hurts). You don't have something like that happen by accident
>>146109190Viv doesn't deserve to have the rights to Octavia
>>146109224We need to rescue Loona and Octavia, man. They're too good for this show. Maybe with Hootgame.
>>146102286>Helluva Boss Venture Bros crossover when?Also, Would Dr. Orpheus be a better dad for Octavia than Stolas?
>>146109435Haven't watched the show but I have to think it would be an accomplishment if he were WORSE than Blitzo
>>146109435>Would Dr. Orpheus be a better dad for Octavia than Stolas?Yes. For one reason, he'd actually try.
>>146109444>Haven't watched the showYou should, it's worth it.
>>146109444>Haven't watched the show but I have to think it would be an accomplishment if he were WORSE than BlitzoBlitzo isn't Octavia's Dad but I'd say even Stolas is a better dad than Blitzo. Doc Venture is slightly better but not by much.>>146109446>Yes. For one reason, he'd actually try. Yeah DOCTOR BYRON ORPHEUS while overbearing and embarrassing is also genuinely involved with Triana. You get the idea that he doesn't teach Triana magic because he wants her to not have to deal with The Master's Bullshit. I feel like Stolas just never made time. I could easily see him having a heart to heart with Octavia after accidentally summoning her.
>>146109538>Orpheus tries to summon Stolas>gets Octavia instead>both are confused as fuck
>>146109538>forgot image
>>146109538Lol wait I got my wires crossed from the Loona in the picture and my brain substituted her as the would-be surrogate daughter in question. It's Venture Bros. I haven't seen
>>146109548>Orpheus freaks out because he thinks he's incurred an ageless demon's wrath for 'kidnapping his daughter'>Octavia reveals that her dad is in his late 30s, and is too busy having sex with his Imp bf to care.>Orpheus listens to her problems before sending her home and giving her a way to contact him
>>146109626Based uncle Orpheus. Maybe he'll set up a playdate with Triana.
>>146100187Even if he weren't gay Stella is still an annoying screeching psycho.
>>146109651>Based uncle Orpheus. Maybe he'll set up a playdate with Triana. >Triana thinks Octavia is cool at first because she's a literal goth demon from hell>learns that she's almost as sheltered and naive as the Venture Boys but without the bottomless optimism>hangs out with her out of pity>the fact that Octavia thinks the order of the Triad is the coolest shit in the world doesn't help>or that her dad is teaching her magic>though in Orpheus's defense he sees her as 'demon who can't avoid using magic'
>>146109781>Triana becoming a big sister to Octavia along with Loona>Octavia hanging out with the order of the triadCertified kino.
>"You know you really need a woman, Stolas.">"What's a woman?"
Pitch episode ideas for the show if it hadn't abandoned its pilot premise.
>>146104626https://files.catbox.moe/leu8xr.pngI'm pooped and still need at least another day to color everything, but here if anyone's antsy for a Halloween treat have some lineart. Goodnight!
>>146110838haha oh no loona no please don't reap me haha
>>146101630blitzo would flip his fucking shit if straight!stolas was into loona.seriously he would go balistic.
>>146110838Looks awesome, dude. You deserve a break.Goodnight, Loonabro.She can take the whole candy bowl.
>>146110848>reap>repa>rape
>>146110871>the grim raper
>>146110849>Romeo and Juliet if she was in love with Romeo's dadKek
>>146110880Now we're talkin
>>146100187>>146101630What if blitzo was a woman and stolas was straight?
>>146111041Then I'd want her to sound like Marisa Tomei in My Cousin Vinny.
>>146109190Link?
got into blender recently and decided to make a low poly model of this design >>146067333(i also made the original)
>>146111636https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrZ2vqVPTFM4:54>Is this how *she'd* feel, abandoned all alone and left to fend for herself?And then you have the official coverhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rATbtwj1qls2:40 that replaces it with>is this what YOU feel, scorned by a realm that cannot comprehend what you areAnd when you look at it with the newly added visuals there's absolutely no ambiguity that it was done to suck off Blitzo EvenFuckingMOOOOREHarry Potter and the AUDACITY of these bitches
>>146112039>Harry Potter and the AUDACITY of these bitchesfor my money the better phrase is "The Lion, The Witch, and the AUDACITY of This Bitch"
>>146111056>Marisa TomeiAn excellent choice, Mr Vandalay
>>146106458No, we didn't watch any of it either.
>>146100187Not true Stolas also can't fuck good. He's better at taking dick than giving it, which is why he's a bottom. Stella would still not be satisfied with Stolas' poor dick game.
>>146112796Birds don't have dicks.
>>146112922Cartoon birds do.
>>146112934I believe in cloaca
>>146112922Tell that to Viv
>>146112922Some birds do, ostriches are hung like horses.
>>146112922Anon, how do you think birds mate?
>>146113678back of the knee, maybe
>>146113678I guess Stella should be glad Stolas isn't a duck.
>>146113045I did not need to know that.
>>146112796Does any man aside from Blitzo fuck good?
>>146102974I have to wonder. Assuming intelligent extraterrestrial life forms exist in this setting, do they go to Heaven and Hell like humans do?
>>146110815>Blitzo gets sued by someone claiming that Loona's adoption was illegitimate and that they have a claim to her.>IMP get blackmailed for not wearing disguises.>Stella hires IMP.>A short where everyone is in combat form the whole time.>While the imps are on a job, Loona experiments with spells in the grimoire accidentally summoning a version of herself from an alternate reality.>IMP attempt to kill a target and discover that the target is a combat angel disguised as a human.
>>146100683I want collin to get the seed sucked out of him by loona.
>>146113678They ass-kiss.
>>146114650Asmodeus, definitely. Vortex probably does as well, considering he managed to snag the sin of gluttony herself despite being a mere hellhound. Maybe Moxie.
>>146114882>IMP receive what was suppose to be a easy killing job only to find out it was a trap set be angels protecting sinners
>>146115369>MoxieNice joke.
>>146114867We don't see any so probably not. You talk to /x/ about this, some think they're demons larping as ayy lmaos and others think they're soulless (and are interested in humans because we have souls).No idea what Viv would do but I'm not very confident.
>>146115369>Vortex probably does as wellGod yeah...
>>146101630I kinda want this. This sounds so much better
>>146110815>Merry Killmas Eve>Starts with a bit of an obvious jewish kid playing with a regular kid, talking about whether Christmas or Haunnaka is better>Random accident happens, Jewish kid dies>Hires I.M.P. to kill the other kid so neither of them get to celebrate the holidays>They have to do it before Christmas>When they get to the house to try and kill the kid, Santa comes in and a battle ensues between I.M.P. and Santa and co.Bonus points with the Jewish kid bringing up the 'Kill kids for free' bit since he's new and without cash
>>146114882>>Stella hires IMP.There was actually a lot of early fan content where Stella was fine with her husband having affairs and cordial towards Blitzo, so I wouldn't be surprised if some early fic has that premise.
>>146116948It was a better time.
Love Loona
>>146117488>aislop
>>146117488That wolf head is disgusting to look at, damn.
>>146117602*ryan reynolds is disgusting to look at, damn.ftfy
>>146117754Both look weird and off-putting as fuck in that, really. Not really a fan of how it basically glued a dog head onto a woman in a furry morphsuit.
>>146117488Okay this shit is getting weird.
There is a new stream I see. Someone here can keep up with the kind of things Viv says there?
>>146117905Here is the link to it. Previous stream was not recorded and this can be helpful. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnCevDyoE8s&pp=wgIGCgQQAhgB
>>146117972Ha, Viv made her own sona.
>>146118118Kek what? Post pics.
>>146117488Why am I aroused!!!!????
>>146118644Latent zoophilia
>>146118255It's on her stream.
>>146118773Oh, the thumbnail?
>>146100683It's hard to call out a show on being too similar gay fanfiction without admitting that you read gay fanfiction.But it says a lot that even people who read gay fanfiction have a problem with Helluva Boss' writing.
>>146119004It's not that hard to recognize fanfiction and shitty tumblr writing after like, 2015 imo, but otherwise yeah.
>>146119004Who drew this lmao.
>>146116043I want to worship his pits
>>146119154That guy that drew the brain damaged Moxxie.
>>146119386Checks out
>>146113039But they reference his cloaca several times, don't they?
>>146119858>YOU'RE ALL HOLES AND NO SHAFT>WHAT HAPPENED TO YOUR SHAFT, STOLAS?!
Stella needs a GOODHARDDICKING
>>146120183From me.
>>146119858And they mention his penis how many times?
>get off that fucking basketweaving forum already, get over here and FUCK ME ALREADY!
>>146120698>"Sweet Jesus where'd you come from!"
How often does Millie peg Moxxie? Is it most time they bang?
>>146120743Three out of four times.
>>146120816The fourth time is because Millie's busy and he has to do it himself.
>>146117488this is fucked
>>146120816You she puts her hips in too.
Cockney cowgirl...
>>146120672None that I can remember (doesn't mean they didn't happen, I would be glad to be proven wrong) plus his pinup merch depicts him bulgeless.
>>146121472Wait so if he's all cloaca what actually changes with a genderbend? It's the same hole.
>>146121637Look, male birds have a penis, but it's hidden in a sheath within the cloaca that only comes out when erect for mating. for female birds they have an internal vagina that uses the cloaca as an opening.
>>146121690Okay, that helps. So Stolas has a dick inside of him 24/7.So again, what's the difference?
>>146121732One's a sheathed sword and the other's a camo'd landing pad.
>>146121637>Voice>Secondary sexual characteristics (ie boobs) and other dimorphism >Socialization>Role in the royal family (crown prince/inheritor vs. princess to be married off as a bargaining chip, dependent on setting and family though)>Whether you lay eggs or eject sperm To elaborate on the last one>>146121690This is true of some birds (which is why you see those horrifying waterfowl cocks), but not owls. Birds without penises have internal testes that produce sperm which exits the cloaca same as waste, they mate by touching holes with the female.All that being said Stolas is an anthropomorphic demon in the shape of a bird, not a real owl, so it's entirely possible that he has a dick in there anyway and Blitz just fucks him around it. I doubt Viv thought further than the cloaca jokes in the first place.
https://files.catbox.moe/01bmgj.pngAlright, think she's done. I'll wait a little while before uploading for final mistakes check later tonight, and I'll have a nudie version on E6. Happy Halloween!
>>146122236Awesome work! I'd let her reap me...
>>146122322*rape
>>146122384Same thing
>>146122322>>146122384>>146122448>holiday reaping>you're her next victim>but she misread the job description
>>146122236
>>146100429Does Nakata Jouji voice Adam in the dub?
>>146121996It was a sodomy joke, anon
>>146123280>SonnyOkay, that's a really clever Male Loona name
>>146123948Works for a counterpart, but I like Luka for an r63.
Honestly, I think the decision to make Stolas straight-up gay rather than bi or pan doesn't gel with the decision to make Stella evil with no nuances. If he were bi or pan, then it would've been possible for her to make the marriage work and this avoid him cheating on her with Blitzo and the attendant consequences. It could reasonably be argued that his infidelity was her fault in that scenario.On the other hand, making him gay means she could NEVER have the respectable, functional marriage that could have averted her humiliation. Moreover, it's very likely that he would have stayed no matter what she did, simply because she can't give him what he wants and needs in a relationship. Not only that, this also makes her a victim as well, since she was just as trapped as he was with no way to turn their marriage into a loving one. You can still have her play an antagonistic role despite that, but her lack of agency in the matter and fundamental inability to fix their marriage makes the show's attempts to paint Stolas cheating as her just desserts feel clumsy and cheap. It feels as though the writers were trying to combine the tragedy of being forced into a relationship that clashes with your orientation and the catharsis of finally getting one over on a partner who treats you like shit but didn't realize how to do so without it coming across as contradictory.
>>146124587>she was just as trapped as he wasEven if he was straight this is still the case.
Well that one anon wanted me to write something, and while I can't really deliver I'll try and put something out there.>you throw a ball across the lobby, a pawed hand catching it and tossing it back>you catch it>you toss it again>catch it>again and again>"Today sucks," Loono comments, breaking the silence as he tosses the ball back>you catch the ball and toss it back, asking what he means>"Boring as shit, what do you think I mean?" he responds, holding the ball in his hand, "they've been in deep cover all day trying to nail this guy, you'd think they'd have domed him and gotten back by now. I even hid a fat camp flyer in Miller's stuff an hour ago, and at this rate he'll never see it.">you shrug, wondering if one of you should send a text to make sure they're okay>"They're fine," he says, pulling his phone out of his jean pocket, "Blitza sent me a text a while ago, it's just some cartel asshole.">you tap your desk with a pen, racking your brain for ideas to liven things up>a quick snack run?>"Naah, much as I hate it I DO need to be here if they need a quick evac or whatever," he grumbles, "besides, she's got me on a tight leash cause of the um...">he blushes softly, "t-the other night...">you chuckle, joking that Blitza's probably just jealous someone ELSE was keeping him on a tight leash for once>"S-shut the fuck up," he growls, turning beet red, "I never wanna be that naked again.">you're quick to point out he hadn't gotten his pants off yet...>"That's not the point, I--" he argued, interrupted by a text which he checked immediately, rolling his eyes, "Oh. They got the guy, but they wanna stop by an empanada place before I portal them back. Cool. So I guess... we have an hour or two?">an hour for what, though?>a wicked grin crept onto Loono's face
>>146125049>"Weelll," he starts, standing and stepping over to the broomcloset door before turning to face you with a glint in his eye...>"How about instead of tossing a ball around, you come over here and..." in an instant he had lost his bravado, his ears folding back against his head as he cowered against the door, "u-uhh, maybe toss... my... balls around?">that nervous grin told you everything you needed to know about his confidence, but then again, you wouldn't have it any other way>you chuckled, approaching the hound and pushing him into the closet>closing the door behind you, your fumbling hands finding Loono's torso soon enough...>you press your lips against something very pointy and wet...>"That's my nose, dipshit.">Oh.>you aim a little lower, finding his lips and exploring that snout with your tongue...>"Better...">it isn't long before the shirts come off...>your hands start running through his bare fur...>his hot breath dances across your neck as his teeth gently nip at your ear>his claws rake across your back, the pain forcing a shudder from you and undoubtedly leaving a few red marks in the dark...>pulling Loono close, the two of you are chest to chest, both panting pretty hard...>you gaze at the hellhound's face, his crimson eyes filled with desire and...>wait...>there's not supposed to be light in here...>"SWEET Lucifer, Lilith and baby Charlie, what in the name of--" Miller's disgusted southern twang knocked both of you to your senses, the imp holding the closet door open, "REALLY?!">"Do you fucking MIND?!" >"YEAH I FUCKIN' MIND, you're lucky I had some chalk to draw a portal with!">"LOONIE, YOU ARE SO FUCKING GROUNDED!" Hope (you) enjoyed your seven minutes in hell, cause Blitza is definitely gonna kick your ass.
>>146124587There's a lot of nuance lost with the decision to make Stella a psycho, the fact that she was forced into this too isn't even a factor when it affects both of them.
>>146119386Post it
>>146117488Ai vs cgi, what is the difference?
>>146125389One is deliberately made with human hands and ideally used to make something aesthetically pleasing, the other is a program designed to hallucinate something based off a prompt and tons of recycled material.
Total Sinner Death.
>>146122557>and that's how Loona ended up on a sex offender registrykek
>>146101630Why would they even be interested in each other? Also Stolas is like 15 years older than Loona and I don't think they ever talked on screen
>>146125752>Also Stolas is like 15 years older than Loona and I don't think they ever talked on screenNot once iirc
>>146125049>>146125205Amazing and wish there was more, also what's this other night that was talked about? Am I missing green?
>>146101891Yeah, it's why he's so insufferable and why even as a turbobitch you end up feeling bad for Stella. She's just meat, completely dependent on what she's able to build off of her relationship with Stolas as currently presented and he can and does set it on fire without a single fuck, no shit she's pissed.
>>146123280In my fic I made her a brother too, but I call him Lucius.
>>146126853>LuciusNot bad.
>>146125389You have no control over what the AI version does. Just give it a prompt and cross your fingers it gets close enough.
>>146126853Why not Luka?
>>146129063I prefer a bit older sounding name because in my story he is quite a bit older than Loona. And did not want to make it too obvious. Was sold to slavery to a Goetia when Loona was still very small.
>>146129438Fair enough. So he's closer to 30s?
>>146122557You can't make someone do something they already wanted, I want her to "make me" eat her out, then she sucks me off and we fuck.
>>146125371No
>>14612977028, but he pretty much feels like an old man despite being younger than Moxxie. He already went through deaths of a mate and his children being sold off. When he was taken by that Goetia Loona was 7 and he was 13.
>>146125919Anyone?
>>146129951I have to go through desu and track them down, it'll be a little while.
>>146125919>>146129951>>146129981Oh wait, I thought you wanted all the other stuff I wrote. I'm still tired.>the other nightThat's a noodle incident. I didn't write anything for that, so you're not missing anything. Really I probably should've bothered to have an actual continuity with these greens, but I've been very loose. I switched from just Loona being genderbent in the start to it being everybody later on lel
Sex with Bee!
>>146129937I wish hellhounds' place in society was explored more, you're doing good just based off that alone.
>>146130673I made part of it there like this>Stop calling me that you breathing foss-*PULL* GRRR” The enforcer pulled the leash of a Hound, causing the blood to spill in small drops from it’s neck “I am no tool… I am->What are you supposed to be?” Agares asked ironically “By the law of Citizenship Hounds and other beings of their status of Tools are not recognized as citizens until they reach the capability of ownership of their own abode, holding their own occupation and providing results of their labor towards the Government of Hell in satisfactory capacity. Until then they are recognized as they were created to be by the Queen of Gluttony Beelzebub.”
>>146109983>Stolas gets jealous and worried and sends I.M.P to get Octavia back>THE ORDER OF THE TRIAD assumes I.M.P are their new arches after Torrid killed himself opening a portal to the abyss>Al panics when he realizes they have guns and shunts them into some nightmare dimension>Stolas vs Orpheus magic duel while I.M.P has to escape the nightmare dimension>"Orpheus I don't care if you want to fight this fursuiter to the death. But as your landlord I'm telling you you need to do it outside!"
>>146131024>"Al perhaps if you offer yourself sexually to him we can use his lust against him!">"No, first of all just because I'm gay doesn't mean I wanna sleep with every guy I see! Second of all he probably has some weird bird thing down there.">"You mean a corkscrew?">"No Jefferson the other one.. the hole.">"A vagina?">"No the other hole.">"I believe he's referring to the cloaca, latin for sewer if I recall correctly.">"See another reason I'm not sticking my dick in that!"
>>146131024>>146131227Kek. I had all their voices running reading that.
if i quit smoking i think my pussy would be good enough to turn him bi or pansexual or whatever. kinsey scales. stella was emotionally constipated and tortured him from the start for being effeminate and overly emotional. i could help him queen out, build his ego, enable him, put makeup on him and make him feel special. fix his entire attitude towards women like how /co/ users think they can fix the 14 year old lesbians in their disney tva fantasy girlslop cartoons. stolas is the reason they invented strapons, once they confirmed he has a birdpussy in full moon i knew that he's just supposed to be a woman but with extra steps so it's still hot and non-threatening to heterosexual women... incredible work on behalf of vivienne, getting to live vicariously through him as a skinny white twink. all the chubby middle-aged ssri-ridden stolitz ladies on twitter get to project their real life unhappy marriages to Funko Pop Men onto the cute "toxic" codependent abusive yaoi, too. it's amazing how well she knows her audience and how to get money out of it by pedaling pieces of plastic with hypersexualized drawings printed on them. i am infinitely jealous
>>146131600I don't think he's into neovaginas, dude.
>>146130172All your content is what me and others are interested in>>146131600I doubt you were born as a woman plus I don't think any given woman could pussy whip him into being malleable anyway, he already fucks girls and boys and you can't just twist his arm via sex
>S1: conflict is Stolas fucked an imp and Stella is pissed at him because he fucked an imp>S2: UM ACKSHUALLY Stella is just a completely irredeemable literal-hitler for her entire life and hates Stolas because she's so mean and evil and their marriage was arranged and loveless from the very beginning so it's okay that Stolas fucked an imp!fujos ruin everything
>>146131024>>146131227Kek, I read it in their voices. It really is night and day how VB manages to be raunchy yet still funny while HB kinda doesn't.>>146131790We would've been better off if the VB dudes wrote this show tbdesu.
>>146131649>>146131657mtfs like lesbians not yaoi. thats like the whole point of the autogynophilia complex
>>146131790Why are people so quick to rush to defend Stella? She is clearly a cunt on top of the arranged marriage deal, she isnt just an emotionally aloof indifferent bystander, she is actively hostile, wants to ruin stolas, and even tries to have him killed.
>>146131810I'm not defending StellaI'm pointing out shitty writing that took a somewhat interesting "both sides are at fault" conflict, and turned it into a completely black-and-white "one party is good, one party is literally hitler" conflict
>>146131809You shut up, sir
>>146131820I think Stolas did nothing wrong and the only thing Stella would be justified in doing would be being aloof and indifferent, this isn't some both sides shit
>>146131809Ok. Stolas isnt a simp or pussy starved, I reject your notion that you can mind control him via vagina.
>>146131840>cheating on your wife with the lowest class in Hell>nothing wrongokay
>>146131840>I think Stolas did nothing wrongWe know, Viv.
>>146131840Yeah because S2 turned it into that.S1 the conflict is played for laughs with scenes like picrel.
>>146131857If she is so resentful of the arranged marriage why would she care? "Oh no, don't cheat on me in the marriage I didn't want! I feel so betrayed!">>146131861Yeah ok
>>146131657>All your content is what me and others are interested inYou're gonna make me blush. I really should've archived the stuff I write, but I preferred to be pretty casual with it.
>>146132021>look mommy I posted it again!Hi stolasfag. How's your transition going?
>>146132198If you could find it all I can screen cap it all. I'll confess, I copy and pasted your two part making out in the closet green into spicychat.ai and spent the next couple hours gooning to a massively extended version of the story you wrote. I had to do it. There was tons of hugging kissing and sexual stuff going on. I feel drained.>>146132286Yeah that image always triggers the Stella c u c k s
>>146131807>Kek, I read it in their voices. It really is night and day how VB manages to be raunchy yet still funny while HB kinda doesn't.Venture Bros is made by very different creators than Viv who have much more experience writing. Plus Viv's sense of humor was very much shaped by stuff like Happy Tree Friends and Invader Zim whereas Publick and Doc were never part of that.
>>146132495And yet you're always the one seething every time your husbando gets an iota of criticism.
>>146132495>If you could find it all I can screen cap it all.Anyone who wants to stitch them together can do so. I don't know if I can post a bunch of desu links without getting banned though, they might think I'm spamming.
>>146132678https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/145271535/#145288530https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/145778359/#145781420https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/145778359/#145799077https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/145909577/#145966263https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/145972187/#145980082Fuck it, here's all I could find. Stitch them together if you want, just bear in mind they're not really in strict continuity with each other lol
What can you say about Stolas? He was Stolas.
>>146133169And now I'd like to invite someone up to the stand to share an especially warm memory of Stolas.>Blitzo steps up to the mic. The feedback drowning out the audio.>"SEX"
>>146133169
>>146133213>"I mean, I mean did he not shit? Did he not dreerdge? He was only goetian, but yes he was chicken and waffles.">"And who are YOU?">"I-I'm... the dude that killed him."
>>146100187I know about the leaks, but I really don't think they are gonna kill off stella this season.If they did there's basically no serious antagonist anymore, and the show clearly isn't going back to being goofy 1 off stories anymore. You could maybe argue dhorks, but all out earth vs hell seems more like a hazbin thing.
>>146133333
>>146133366Why don't the dhorks just paint Blitzo black and dump his ass in Detroit?
>>146133213KEK
>>146133333>QuintsFucking witnessed.
>>146132021>If she is so resentful of the arranged marriage why would she care?The emphasis isn't (shouldn't be) on the cheating, it's on the person Stolas is cheating with being at the very bottom of the pecking order. Even if she doesn't want him it reflects poorly on her if her husband breaks the social contract by fucking around with a member of the servant caste.
Would you?
>>146134131Tomboy Dust?Yeah.
>>146132808More. Loono needs to go down on anon and then anon fucks him.
>>146133709>very bottomImps aren't quite at the bottom, he could go lower.
>>146127213The smarter side of things have started to realize, like with LLM chatbots that having more granular control and ability to actually control or edit/force the AI to edit the product or process is a high priority for anyone who wants a toolset rather than just a toy.It's mainly the smaller companies that seem to realize this so far, ChatGPTs fags are mainly interested in data harvesting and finding ways to create a more restricted toy, so it's mostly Novel AI and similar who have cottoned on to "Okay maybe we should make something actually fucking useful for something other than laughs or instant gratification" while using the endless amounts of porn money they get to fund development.
>>146134293Don't forget >>146125049 and >>146125205
Why's Moxxie such a fat piece of shit?
>>146105706Breaking Benjamin.
>>146134828Sorry
>>146100224They both have cloacas because they are birds
>>146134293>>146135281Very nicely shooped.>Loono needs to go down on anon and then anon fucks him.I don't know if full on buttsex is something I can write dude lol. We'll see next time I'm in the mood to write.Whoever wrote that one with Loono fucking the prostitutes does a way better job than me though, that's for sure.
>>146135586That prostitute story was mildly life altering, like a glimpse into an alternative timeline where I just did what men have been doing for 1000s of years rather than let myself be psyoped by women into simultaneously over-valuing sex acts + being mind raped via shaming tactics into not being willing to take the most direct immediate effort free and guaranteed route to getting everything I wanted, which would also show me how much I overvalued what I wanted. Boys/men becoming incels is such a mindfuck because its like a negative feedback loop and the more desperate and crazy you become the harder it is to actually get a girls panties off, which just feeds back into the cycle ad infinitum. Plus women are simply full of shit as people overall and getting laid as a guy is not fair balanced or equitable no matter what anyone says, shit is in-fact rigged against us because of how biology works, women simply want sex far less, far less often, and are far more picky about who they do it with. Basically women's one and only perk they have going for them is endless access to endless sexual options, but that perk is very desirable from the male POV, although from their POV they just don't care.
I want to hug a hellhound.
>>146135778Don't we all?
>>146134293Yeah but imagine King Bee feeling you up with four hands.
Holy shit I want to cum in Vortex so much!
>>146136590King Bee...
>>146136590
>>146136172Nice blep
>>146136874He cute!
>>146136968What do you think he smells like?
>>146137065Axe cologne. <3
>>146137089What do you like most about him?
For me it's FemVortex.
>>146134222Checked.
>>146137221His good looks.
From the information I glanced, both shows seem to be written by an emotionally immature womanchild for other emotionally immature womanchilds. Lacking in depth, not having even the Xitter-philosophies of Rick and Morty. Can anyone explain the appeals?
>>146137816>not having even the Xitter-philosophies of Rick and MortyAnd that's a good thing.
>>146133169I mean, he was only a goetia, but he WAS chicken and waffles.
>>146137839>>146133333GOD DAMMIT YOU GOT TO THE JOKE FIRSTalso nice quints
>>146137853To me digits have to be like a cross between a dikekike video and chicken and winnigish.
>>146132496What would Helluva Boss look like if they were in charge of the writing?
>>146108973>everyone freaks out>it was just one cookie>would SO do it again
>>146100683Oh hey that's my post! Did the Cherubs return yet?
>>146138455Yup, in Full Moon.Good post dude, you turned out prophetic.
>>146138440Need to bake her some sugar cookies.
>>146137816The target demographic is grown up theater/art kids with religious trauma and daddy issues. I didn't even realize that I was this way until someone pointed it out to me.The shortcomings in the plot are very disappointing but the show looks great and the characters are designed for shipping, fanart, and rule 34.Its like Skyrim - the basic product feels incomplete but the mods are great.
>>146138460>Collin is safe (mostly)That's all I needed to know.
>>146138455How's the schizophrenia treatment going? You are seeking treatment, right?
>>146138524He's a good boy. Here's hoping he makes it maybe with Loona.
>>146138534We've been taking our medication, yes.
>>146138534What a coincidence Loona, it's time for your daily dose.
>>146138547Glad to see he's not corrupted by the surface world. Also Keenie turning into a bad girl was sooo obvious lol.
This man did NOT deserve to be named Pinklie Winkurlton.
>>146138582In a perfect world he would find his way to the hazbin hotel and work there to save sinners as he was meant to do.
>>146138524Collin is for abuse.>verification not required
LOL
>>146138633I agree, after all just look at him. He's a baaaa'd man.
Queen
If there's one character I'd want in my corner its Collin. Look at him, he tries his best.
I didn't expect them to make Beezlebub a hellhound with glowy hair
>>146138696Shit design and shit concept for Beelzebub, but perfect for coomers like me.
>>146138749Yeah, kind of disappointing since she's an icon of sin. Hope the remaining three make up for her.
>>146138786Mammon I've heard is better but I skipped his episode so I wouldn't know.
I still prefer angel Bee and wish she got more solo art.
>>146138852Love seeing "before the fall" versions of demons.Surprised to see Keenie and Cletus haven't lost their halos.
>>146138889Yeah I suspect 'fallen' in Hazbin is largely just a word, not a metaphysical state of being which is why Lucifer is still pretty angelic and why the cherubs haven't fallen despite the way they're acting now. It's a matter of legality, nothing more. And that sucks.
>>146138641Look at how happy One is. For a few moments his normal day-to-day drudgery is briefly forgotten and he gets to cut loose.
>>146138939the agents were funny, I'm glad they also returrned
>>146138524That was also the best episode of season 2 by farCoincedence? I think not
>>146139148Bad guys teaming up leads to fun shenanigans
>>146132021>Stellafans are no different from Vriskafans
>>146138749Sauce
>>146109190What fucking CITY would (you) take Tav/Loona too?Something that's not LAJesus ChristMaybe cities need to stop existing
>>146140053They'd like Boulder, Colorado.
>>146138596How would he get along with Razzle?
>>146140053Road trip through the USA during the summer. We'll see it all.
>>146100683Does season two even acknowledge the cherubs?
>>146141129Yes, they show up in Full Moon.
>>146139404@Chiizz_ on xitter.
>>146140649No clue since I don't know who that is
>>146134634Hellhounds being socially lower than Imps is such a fucking retarded decision
>>146141790Why?
>>146122236Nice
>>146136590>>146137089But how FAT is his COCK?
>>146142321A few reasons that layer on top of each other.First, Acknowledging a racial social circle in Hell which is, as shown, a chaotic place where order exists on the upper levels only as an extent of power. There are no cops, laws, and punishment for actions is only done through specific retribution from others. Based on what we've seen, Hellhounds aren't weaker than Hellborn or Imps, further supported by Vortex being a bodyguard of a super famous idol.Second is a matter of Origin. From what we've seen, the hellborn are based on the sins. Goat people for Belphagor, Fish people to Leviathan, Hellhounds for Beelzebub. It's strange that the progeny of one of the Sins (Top of the Top) would bee seen as lower class compared to progeny of other Sins without some kind of explanation. Imps being lower at least has the explanation they have no representative Sin, though that may be out the window depending on how Wrath is done.Third, Viv decided to outline this big tier system of where people are socially, and then did fuck all with it. A distinction of upper/lower class would be fine, but she decided to go beyond that only to do nothing with it. No one treats 'Hellborn' and 'Imps/Hellhounds' differently. tl;dr, Imps work as a default to hellborn species, they've shown to have no innate abilities compared to others, and make sense to be seen as lesser. Hellhounds don't.
>>146142651I thought imps and hellhounds were hellborn?
>>146142677Viv made a retarded announcement at some point that in the social pecking order, Imps and Hellhounds are below other Hellborn like Succubus and the other menagerie of Hell.Why she did this? No fucking clue. But like most things she adds to the setting, it made it worse.
>>146139297Now her voice is Stella's.Great.
>>146142726Viv has no consistency, we talked about this. She said the exorcists have tons of weapons such as bombs and missiles, yet we only saw them using medieval weapons. She's worse than Toriyama.
>>146139297Seeing Stolasfags twist themselves into knots to defend this trainwreck of a show is something else, man.
>>146140053I still think a trip through Japan would be pretty fun. There's gotta be tons to do there, we'd probably have fun just walking down the street.I wonder what the malls are like there? Gotta be pretty impressive.
>>146142651Hellhounds are lower than imps because they don't stay together as families. We've seen imp families numerous times but how many times have we seen a hellhound mother pushing her baby in a stroller? It's like the problem in the black community in the US but worse: fatherless homes can't thrive and the kids end up on the bottom of the social ladder.>Lucifer Magnethat pic is fan made and not well
>>146143129>hellhounds are niggersVortexbros, our response?
>>146143143>I didn't think he'd figure it out.
>>146142651>picLiterally what narrative purpose does this serve? Why did vivzie create DBZ power levels for her show about gay imps? Is she stupid?
>>146143143>black man sucks police dick to get a lighter sentenceVivienne I like edgy humor but that's a bit far
>>146143624Which is weird cause police don't hand out sentences
>>146142651Perhaps one day the power scaling will be more clearOr less dumbMaybe it never will be, but POINT ISIMAGINE Apprentice Anon steadily climbing through the ranks of power throughout the game(s)
>>146143812If he plays his cards right, he'd make one hell of an overlord. The Goetia (or at least Stolas) having some pull with Anon (and vice versa) would be a hefty bonus.
>>146132021>character who has almost no redeeming qualitiesThat would be Stolas R. Goetia who by the way was raped by Detroit natives in the summer of 2012.
Was stolas a last decision kind of deal?
Stopped watching around the episode where Loona meets the dogbee girl. Anyone wanna give me a qrd on the major events that have happened since then? I wanna know how bad this show has fallen.
>>146144023They were angelic condoms. He never saw it coming.
>>146144070Not a lot. Blitzo made up with his former clown buddy Fizzaroli, Fizz and Asmodeus came out as being in a committed relationship, Blitzo and Stolas broke up, and now Blitz uses a magic crystal to visit the human realm instead of the grimoire.
Post Beeee
>>146144595>>146144055Sorry not a lot as in amount of happennings. In terms of writing quality, yes the show inarguably fell a lot. Unhappy campers is one if the worst things ever written, it makes something like "There's a batman in my basement" look good
>>146144610That reminds me, how's that bee writefag doing? I wonder if he got his laptop fixed yet.
Remind why did Asmodeus have to be a gay monogamous faggot and not a big tittied pansexual cum goddess?
>>146144595>>146144622>Blitzo and Stolas broke upWell there goes my one reason I kept watching the show up to the bee lady. I mean it was probably inevitable, but it still feels like a shitty crutch trope that would only happen because the writers ran out of ideas for them.
>>146144666Because they're marketing to faggots, Satan. They can't be based.
>>146144690>free use open access AsmodeusUNF
>>146143879Do you see Overlord as a title/position, or power level?Because I feel like he could go much higher than that
>>146144699I wish Viv would canonize sins being able to shapeshift. It'd explain why Beelzebub is female at least. Plus Asmodeus being able to double up as a man or woman just makes sense for Lust.
>>146143879Imagining this but with Stolas & AnonImagine...Maybe even Anon & Tav
>>146144638Laptop is not fixed but a tower PC has been procured.Been planning and generally just figuring out things for the overall course of the story.Thankfully I have this coming Thursday and Friday off so I can actually get some work done.
>>146144835If it were up to me? I'd say someone like Alastor would have very good reason to be afraid of someone like Stolas. It doesn't mean that he can't pull one over on a Goetia (anyone can with an angelic rifle) but there's a pretty good reason he doesn't. Maybe Goetia have some abilities or qualities that make it hard for an Overlord to simply push them around. In any case I don't see Anon killing a Goetia without help...
>>146144952If magic is something that can be learned/trained, especially for a human, then holy magic must be possible, too. How one would access it to begin with is probably worth discussing, though. Would Heaven have ever made books? Would any angel be a willful teacher? Could a fallen angel still teach? Would any have written shit down ever?
>>146144910I actually had been wondering if you could have attached a display cable to the laptop and used an external monitor, but if you got a tower PC that'd be a lot more comfortable.>Been planning and generally just figuring out things for the overall course of the story.Looking forward to it, man. Chapter 1 was a really solid start.
>>146144993That's asking a lot of questions that I don't know if Viv has ever thought about. Namely, >Is there a solid distinction between holy magic and satanic magic, or is it all just 'magic'?>is holy magic something a human can learn or something used innately by beings like Adam?Another thing that you should consider is that sorcery is generally considered to be incredibly sinful in scripture. Therefore, just holding to scripture, I doubt that you would really have 'holy magic' that a human can learn. The closest equivalent, I think would be priests and exorcists, which I wouldn't really count as magic so much as things done by the Lord through said priest.If an author wanted to take some liberties or interpret it a different way than I think it's possible, but I can't think of it at the moment.
>>146145084To put this in a simpler way, I would say that>Grimoire Magic = Learned from Stolas, think of how DnD Warlocks function>'Holy Magic' = Something given to one via blessing (like a Cleric) or by elevating them to an angel like Metatron (or Adam apparently)So if Anon wants to kill a Goetia (or Lord forbid a Sin), he would need planning and external help which I find more interesting if he'd have to cash in on the social bonds he's cultivated over the course of the game.And a reason to even do so, I don't think we gave Anon a good reason to basically overthrow hell lmao.
>>146143129Yeah, we've also never seen a goat lady pushing a baby goat in a stroller, or a fish lady pushing a baby fish in a stroller. Also, in a setting like Hell, familial connections for the lower class are an extent of power, not social currency. As an extent of power, gangs are just as functional, which they still have.
>>146143624Sir Pentious was implied to have molested his son in the pilot.>Oh, harder daddy.>Son?>...
>>146131024>>146131227I would pay good money for just one episode.
>>146145224>>146145084The general idea of Holy Magic is that it's the power of God, therefore can't be learned only given.I'd say for Sorceranon to cast it, make it closer to 'alchemy'. All of Heaven is of God, so parts of Angels would have his essence. From there, it's using regents to try and draw out that innate essence into a desired form. Problem is getting things that would contain the Essence of Heaven.
>>146145084>>146145224I figured that the gift of Knowledge given by the Apple way back when gifted humanity with the ability to quite possibly do anything through Knowledge, which may very well have pissed off whatever angels were in chargeSince the possibility of doing anything means the possibility of challenging anyoneUnknown if shit like this will EVER get touched upon but I figured it'd be interestingPower of human freedom and all that
>>146145354>anon scavenging the remains of dead exorcists after the last purge.
>>146145418Pretty much. Gotta get to them before those faggot cannibals eat em.I'd probably also put in something regarding the life of what the part is from. An exorcist who's been dead for some time? Not a lot of juice in that.If you got blood from an Exorcist that's still alive? That would have tons of value.
>>146145466>If you got blood from an Exorcist that's still alive? That would have tons of value.Oh THAT is fucked. He's gonna risk making enemies on all sides lol
>>146145418Fucking, perfect ideaIf holy/divine magic is something innate and CANNOT be learnedThenImagine him keeping an angelic weapon handy, I imagine physically enhancing magic exists to boost his strength/speed in fightsAlternatively, angelic knife to finish certain foes off after sufficient pummeling
>>146145486>Quest for a specially powerful, hand-crafted angelic weapon to call your own>Option between keeping exorcist alive for bleeding to get the weapon faster/higher quality, or scavenging dead ones
>>146143812>>146143879This show doesn't need retarded powerscaling debates. No shows do, but vivshit especially doesn't.
>>146145517>>146145486You guys remember Vaggie exists, right? Just gotta find some way to get some of her blood.
>>146138356>What would Helluva Boss look like if they were in charge of the writing? I can't imagine them doing Hazbin Hotel but I could see them doing something similar to Helluva Boss>Consistent lore and worldbuilding>Worldbuilding that also sources from obscure apocryphal texts that describe hell/sheol/the pit instead of cliffnotes Dante's Inferno>Possible incorporation of pagan mythology>Goetia do have a natural lifespan but it's 1000s of years so Stolas grew up in Late Antiquity with his dad being one of the demons in The Testament of Solomon>All characters are treated sympathetically but it's acknowledged they're shitty people who cause most of their own problems>Major focus on how Hell is actually a pretty soul crushingly depressing place with no upward mobility and plenty of pointless busywork done because that's the way things have been done for thousands of years>references to Bronze Age Occult Horror comics like pic related>Blitzo and Moxxie actually have a rapport >Most of the modern Goetia don't really put their hearts into encouraging sin on earth and are parodies of modern British aristocracy>implication that a lot of demons falsely take credit for inspiring purely human acts of evil>More interaction with shit like aliens, vampires, werewolves, and human occultists>Sins are depicted as personally evil but mostly just act as figureheads who relegate all the work to their underlings>bonus points if them totally embodying their sins leads to them being shit at their jobs>Lucifer is blamed for most problems, not because he's evil but because he was an annoying theatre kid who couldn't create a functional society
>>146145579>You guys remember Vaggie exists, right?Dunno about you but I really wouldn't wanna piss off Charlie or her dad.
>>146145579>>146145608>"Dunnoe. Isn't stealing exorcist blood somewhat...problematic?">"N-...No! Of course not! It's all perfectly legal and morally ambiguous!">"But what about this plan to dress up as Charlie Morningstar and to trick Vaggie into giving you her blood? Sees a little deceitful.">"W-well.....it's a lot of blood, Stolas! What is she going to do with it? I need it more than her!"
>>146145648Ya know, I was thinking less of stealing it, more of trying to make a deal with Vaggie directly for some of her blood, but this is a much funnier idea.
>>146142651>>146142677>>146142726My main gripe is that she implemented a class/caste system at all and proceeded to flip-flop on it.>Stella is implied to be more angry that Stolas fucked an imp than she was about him cheating on her>Striker's massive fucking chip on his shoulder about sinners, overlords, and royals is set up to be a defining character trait>Stolas gets grilled at Ozzie's for dating Blitzo>Blitzo is retardedly insecure about the power imbalance between him and Stolasbut also>None of the main characters suffer any prejudice or discrimination from their social superiors>Imps and Hellhounds can just do whatever they want, be celebrities, get rich, etc with no pushback or bigotry>Bee, who's a literal regent of Hell, openly has a Hellhound boyfriend and no one gives her shit for it>Ozzie's relationship with Fizz is scrutinized because being in love is bad for his image as lust personified, not that he's in love with an imp>There's no consequence for being a hellborn or sinner in general, beyond not having as much money or power as overlords or royalty who themselves do fuck all withEither have it be a setting where class/caste matter all the time, or have it be current-day LA, but not both ffs
>>146145648Kek, this is some scooby doo bullshit. It's perfect.
>>146142651It's because Hellhounds don't really seem to be "people" by the loose and fairly easily bribed and corrupted legal systems of hell as far as we can tell, they *can* be to some degree but how it unclear. Loona at least is very explicitly Blitzo's pet by what we see, he got her from a pound and takes her to a vet even if he thinks of her as his daughter.Thing is though that hellhounds are seemingly tougher than the average imp and hellborn and it's literally fucking Hell, corrupt as fuck and possible to muscle through to some degree, and there's a fuckload of them and they aren't stupid. Jumping from "legally a talking animal" to "legally a person even if you aren't supposed to be" is probably as easy as bribing someone at whatever passes for the local DMC with a murder or a blowjob.
>>146145084Scripture doesn't actually really care too much about magic. And Solomon was explicitly a sorcerer king making demons do shit for him with Jesus later saying Solomon was the coolest dude essentially.
>>146146429I thought the Egyptians practicing sorcery was a big nono?
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>>146146450It's a case of "Rules for the, not for me" the ancient israelites basically invented it as a culture wide phenomena vs a specific subset of a culture.Basically, their problem was more that they were Egyptians using "sorcery" rather than anything else.
>>146145683>>146146025>"Anon, why can't you just approach people normally?">Sounds of spaghetti spilling from pockets gets louder.>"You too?"
>>146146966He just like me fr
>>146144610Do you think Bee appreciates homecooked food? Like it would taste better than stuff she conjures because it was actually prepared and cooked rather than spawned out of thin air.
>>146147359Probably.I imagine she really digs creative food combos too.
>>146147373I'd have so much fun taking her all over Earth to try exotic food, fusion restaurants, street food at different festivals... it's a good excuse to travel.Along with Tav and Loona.
>>146107881stinkmeaner in vivhell would be fucking amazing to watch
>>146147405But of course, a classic cheesburger with all the trimmings and sauce really is a staple of hers.
>>146147683Woman after my own heart. Also it would be funny if she's a terrible cook>make breakfast for Bee>eggs, toast, sausage, pancakes and waffles>it takes forever but damn she always finishes it all without fail>the one time she tries to cook (you) breakfast, she damn near sets the kitchen on fire
>>146145922I think it'd be neat if by the end the three realms were brought togetherDoubt they will, but I'd like to see life in there a century from Heaven, Earth, and Hell being properly linked togetherWhat the fuck would the space age look like
>>146148037Linked as in free travel between all of them, or actually merged? I think merging heaven and hell seems more likely with how Viv sees things.
>>146148088Was thinking free travelDon't know how the fuck a merge would look
>>146148098>Don't know how the fuck a merge would lookChaotic as hell, that's for damn sure.
>>146146429Anon, it's mentioned in Exodus, Leviticus, and Deuteronomy.Solomon was a very special case in that he was given divine knowledge through God, hence why his command of demons was acceptable. It was through God.
>>146148111Bleugh...But yes, how would civilization pan out with all three realms being properly connected?Free travel betweenDemons and Angels are now known as real to mankind
>>146148266>But yes, how would civilization pan out with all three realms being properly connected?Pandemonium, dude. Earth would be utter chaos, they'd encroach into hell and heaven to cause trouble if left unchecked, they'd kill themselves and each other (and probably cause further mayhem in hell).It wouldn't be good.
>>146148290I mean I guess I'd be more of an optimistI BELIEVE in the HUMAN SPIRITThat and what if it started slow, after some big event?Like, both realms sending out ambassadors and everything
Okay neat thread, next time more sexy demon posting please.
>>146148330There's going to be a LOT of people trying to double-kill some assholes.>>146148365I thought we did alright.
>>146138513What is religious trauma?
>>146148440Having to get up early on Sundays.
>>146148330According to the series human tech can synthesize magic fast enough and religious/occult rituals can hurt or thwart demons so mankind may have a chance with prep time. Honestly I'd imagine that earth and hell would just destroy each other with sinners caught in the crossfire while Heaven just chills out and picks off the winner.
>>146122236Amazing >>146130514Sauce
>>146148449That doesn't sound like "religious trauma" its gotta be something else
>>146148483>>146141140
>>146148497They always say it is but it almost always isn't.
>>146148517I'm no fan of religion at all and dont even think any of its real yet I don't feel traumatized at all, maybe the term comes from resenting the "anti-fun" nature of religion?
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>>146148439>>146148469I was envisioning a cool future of peace, but I imagine a basic ground rule being that the dead cannot return to the realm of the livingMost likely gonna be turmoil and growing pains in the beginning, but what of the future?
Stolas is a delicious cuntboy and you cannot change my mind
>>146148567Blitzo...
>>146148565>I was envisioning a cool future of peace, but I imagine a basic ground rule being that the dead cannot return to the realm of the living>Most likely gonna be turmoil and growing pains in the beginning, but what of the future? No, it'd go to shit for the following reasons. >It's hell, humans have been trained since the axial age to think they're the bad guys>Demons do shady shit on earth without consequence thus creating international incidents>Complications over Sinners and whether their governments still have power over them on paper>or that some of them are serving multiple life sentences>or that some of them were world leaders or secret keepers that could theoretically be accessed>learning that you can kill souls permanently or find a way to simulate the process that turns human souls into sinners/winners Maybe shit could go well later on but I have a feeling it'd go to shit. Honestly if sinners/winners stopped forming upon people's deaths it'd be a lot less complicated.
>>146148636I'm interested in the "later on" if things end up going well, however long it takes. How do you think the world would look then?
>>146148674I think the issue is we can't see a timeline where it goes well without a lot of heavy lifting, >>146148636 makes a good care for us not seeing the afterlife. We don't deserve to.
>>146148813Golden timelineTrust in the planThe Golden Path, evenThe human spirit
>>146148927>The human spiritI admire your optimism.
>>146148813>We don't deserve to. It's not even a matter of deserve to. It's like saying 'what if we put velociraptors and chimps in the same environment' they'd kill each other regardless of moral worth just due to the logic of how they function. Beyond that other than serial killers and war criminals from enemy nations I'd imagine that governments would have to hide who actually is in hell or even fake people being in hell to smear them. Of course, if there's even the possibility things happen after the second death, then it makes things slightly easier even it's just ceasing to exist. But on average conditional immortality for everyone in what amounts to two foreign nation states that they can't leave would cause problems.
>>146148946It'll be all we have, in the end
>>146149018That's what I'm saying. Humans are innately sinful and we can't be trusted knowing the afterlife exists because of what we would do with the information.
Bump
>>146149052Anon, I...
>>146149046And yet, we do not have to be sinful. The choice is always ours, isn't it?
>>146149082We don't have to be, but unfortunately when it comes to humans as a whole, sin wins out.
>>146149103Unfortunately true, but maybe one of these days...
>>146149175Stay strong in your faith, anon.
>>146149191Perhaps in a millennia, wouldn't you love to see that?
Until next time.
