Unironically how can Superman fly?
>>147124692He’s jewish
>>147124692He's an alien, he ain't gotta explain shit
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>>147124692He seems to just mentally apply velocities to himself.
Tactile Telekinesis, my guy.
>>147124692Psychic manipulation of his personal bioelectric energy field. It's the same bullshit reason his costume stays in one piece when he shoots through a star.
>>147124858>>147124845See, this is why that Grant Morrison quote exists. Those explanations are retarded.
>>147124874Ironically enough, Morrison is the one being retarded.Pseudo science and scientific gibberish are part of the genre since Gladiator.
>>147124692I like the scene in Miracleman where they try to figure out how his powers work. I don't think the details of his tactile telekinesis or whatever ended up mattering but the general attitude helped the story, it sets up for the bits of plot that depend on the details of the body swap as well as for the more explicit sci-fi genre later. Sometimes it's more important to convince the reader that there is a logical explanation than to actually explain it.Often the answer is to ignore it but if you never ask yourself these questions as a writer you'll leave stuff on the table.I have no idea how Superman can fly.
>>147124934I guess, but it gets annoying when Superboy can't shut the fuck up about his Tactile Telekinesis for even one issue.
>>147124874Sounds more like you and Morrison are the ones who have a weak suspension of disbelief; everything has to either make complete sense or be completely nonsensical.
>>147124858I got the floppy of the Superman 6 part reboot from the 80's here. Ma Kent says she made the costume skin tight because she noticed skin tight clothes didn't rip on Clark when he was young.
>>147124964This.
>>147124692Cells repel gravity
>>147124692>Our fiction is low brow slopWe know.Anyway, Superman could always braap to provide the reaction mass.
>>147124934>>147124964>>147124991I much prefer if they leave it open rather than invent some nonsense babble. However, if you don't have a rational explanation for something, then that is a story element that needs to be taken into account.
>>147124845>>147124858Just saying "magic" sounds less stupid than this.
I always felt like some of the best explanations for superpowers are the ones where you get the general idea, but the specifics are vague.Like with the Green Lantern rings, you know they run on willpower and create energy constructs. But you don't exactly know how the alien super-technology converts the willpower into constructs. It's an alien technology that is so beyond our comprehension that it seems like magic, but there are a lot of little details that make it seem more mundane, like how the rings need to be recharged, and how they also function as communicators and scanners and stuff.
>>147125230agreed. It should be treated like soft magic, treating it like a science means readers will expect you to do as such(which cape writers will never do)
>>147124874>>147125235I hate to break it to you guys, but comics are retarded.
>>147124991To be fair there was a reason for that. Superboy as a teenage Clark Kent was in legal limbo at the time and unable to be used. Superboy here was a clone that had Lex's DNA mixed in to keep him from being a young Clark and his tactile telekinesis was so it could be technically different from the regular Super Strength he wasn't supposed to have. So Superboy constantly bringing up how he's half human and has tactile telekinesis is the writers constantly covering their asses by mentioning several times how he's legally distinct from the version they weren't allowed to use
>>147125367Oh, that makes more sense. I had thought it was just some weird superpower-wank.
>>147124692His body contains Moscovium which generates its own gravity field. The same way UFO saucers fly.
>>147125364nah, though
>>147124692As a kid, I thought it was because of his red cape. Head canon says 2nkgkso.
>>147125230Rational can depend on the nature of their world, they can play fast and loose with physics all they want but it has to be consistent. The tactile telekinesis doesn't work because then almost every character who lifts impossibly heavy shit needs to have it.
>>147124692Smart atoms
>>147124704Superman can’t be Jewish, they would no way of circumcising him
>>147127924He was circumcised on his home planet where he Superman, obviously.
>>147124692He's so strong he can twitch his muscles and basically fling himself in whatever direction he wants.
>>147124692It was just a power, I didn't really care how, I guess he uses some kind of telepathy or makes it so he's less buoyant than the air around him I dunno.
>>147127993>or makes it so he's less buoyant than the air around him
>>147124692Superman can fly because some artists accidentally drew him flying when he could only jump and then Fleischer Studios asked to have him fly because it was easier to animate than jumping.
>>147124692Farts
>>147128008I'm genuinely lost on what you're talking about, so I've prepared 4 responsesa)get your mind out of the gutterb)air is a fluidc)did I use buoyant wrong? should it be *more* buoyant?or d)you got me I guess, I'm retarded
>>147128040Also Captain Marvel was flying around with Magic, and he was cooler than Superman, so it was necessary for Superman to fly too.At that point Superman's powerset became "Lulz, whatever".
Just tack Super in front of whatever, and Superman could do it.
>>147124692>Unironically how can Superman fly?Because he isn't real.
>>147128158Really, do most non-technological heroes have an explanation for their flight, if they lack wings/telekinesis?Wonder Woman gains/loses the power of flight, I guess at least she is magical.
If I hadn't read the comics, I'd think that he can make the fluid in his ears (or somewhere else in his body) swirl in a certain way to obtain thrust.But in many comics it's explicitly stated that Superman's flight has nothing to do with any muscles or movements: he can even fly while paralyzed. So it's surely a psychic power of some kind.>>147128102Buoyancy can only make things go up or down, not fly forward or sideways like Superman. And in the vacuum of space, or in zero-G environments, buoyancy does nothing.
>>147125010You can just call it Man Of Steel. Only the zoomiest zoomer isn't acquainted with John Byrne's Superman.
>>147128226It's just retard fiction written by retards for retards and slow children.
>>147128246This. Terrible, pretentious Superman stories full of Byrne's malignant fetishes. No children are harmed in it only because DC Editorial has SOME limits.
>>147128226>Buoyancy can only make things go up or downhe swims through the air like a fish :^)>And in the vacuum of space, or in zero-G environments, buoyancy does nothing.he swims through space-time like a fish :^)
>>147125364yeah, though
>>147124692Originally he was like John Carter, his species' adaptation to their home planet gave him a huge advantage when he went to another planet. He could leap over a skyscraper but not actually fly. Then power creep happened. A low power Superman (leaping not flying, bullet resistant not bulletproof, etc) would be cool but stans might bitch out and tank such a project.
>>147128331Honestly, he was given ALL the powers in reaction to Captain Marvel becoming more popular/better selling.
>>147124934>Pseudo science and scientific gibberish are part of the genre since Gladiator.and most of the time they were accepted as plot events rather than an indepth explaination of their powers"Radioactive spider" was known by both stan lee and the readers to be utter balderdash, scientists had known of the cancer-causing properties of radiation since the 30sbut nobody ever questions why spidey isnt the the amazing leukemia lad or why he can stick to walls, because everyone understands that the spiders purpose is to simply go "look his origin has a spider in it, so he has spider powers and a spider costume too"grant morrison was absolutely rightspider-man would not be improved if we said he could manipulate the van der waals force to climb walls and use nucleons to artificially increase his muscle massits a fictional story and the spider granted him powers is more than sufficient an actually preferable
>>147124692Is this also yours? >>147128265
>>147124692Quite well. Thank you.
>>147128331The animated series had his power levels about right. He had some jobber moments where he'd take the punches but also some overpowered moments. It balanced out.
>>147130111>He had some jobber moments where he'd take the punches but also some overpowered momentsthe writers described the action sequences as "superman gets his ass kicked, and then he unkicks his own ass"so every fight was always a see-saw battle, regardless of the individual power level of the villainthe only exceptions were metallo, who had superman on the ropes in every fight they had and supes had to be bailed out every timeand darkseid, who just outright won every fight with supes except the last one, and the only reason superman survived is because the plot says darkseid has to torture supes insteado f killing him
I'll be watching an action movie with friends and the action hero will run clear across open ground with twenty guys armed with machine guns pointing right at him, the best mercenaries in the world, and they will all miss with their bullets hitting in neat patterns around the hero. And we accept it, because he is the hero. But then some side character woman who is 100lbs will disarm and fight a guy and they'll all complain it is unrealistic or makes no sense.It always feels like arbitrary. Comic fans do it all the time. We naturally use suspension of disbelief because none of this shit really makes sense but then people will hyper fixate. Sometimes yes, details take us out of things. But other times people will attack one thing we being unrealistic and not something else.People complain Batman is the problem as he doesn't do enough but multiple stories have Batman give money to charity and of course the problems don't end. And the problems don't end due to editorial. But that bothers people so they endlessly complain about the story being bad or not making sense.
>>147124692Bull fucking shit.Have a 4 year old. It is impossible to watch any movie with her as she will ask questions constantly anout whats happening.
because he's not weighed down by a guilty conscience. if any among u were honest, decent human beings, u too could fly
