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>make background character suddenly relevant
>automatically put her in charge of more established characters with almost no explanation
>adds nothing to the narrative that other characters weren't already doing better
>thinks she knows better than veteran members of the Restoration.
>talks down to legacy characters
>insists on being a buzzkill at every turn
What the fuck is the point of this character?
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>>147144840
But it's okay when Sally Acorn does it, right?
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>>147144863
>2010+15
>still caring about Archie characters
lol
lmao even
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>>147144863
Nah that was ass too.
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>>147144840
People like sheep.
They want a sheep-character to appease their porn-addicted minds.
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>>147144840
Yeah she should be beaten into submission yeah that's a good idea.
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>>147144840
>giving a shit about Sonic comics
Are you twelve?
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>>147144971
>judging people for enjoying kids media
>on /co/
lel
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>>147144840
>>147144936
>Austrian Goat Milk
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>>147145018
But she's a sheep not a goat.
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>>147144840
Only one background character ever managed to become beloved as the stars of the show. How did she do it?
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>>147144840
>What the fuck is the point of this character?

Archie-Alumni desperately seeking an ounce of familiar territory from their tryhard comic over the paper-thin writing and characters from the games.
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>>147144968
Not according to furries ocs. Most are either a cat, a dog or a fox
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>>147144840
Do female sheep normally have horns?
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>>147144840
Lanolin is a 10/10 design with a 1/10 personality.
I would definitely drink her milk straight out of her udders.
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>>147145204
What are you trying to say?
That furries don't jack off to other animals too?
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>>147145286
>Lanolin is a 10/10 design

She was before the fatigues happened, now she's a 2/10 design.
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>>147145295
There's plenty of hmofa content made by hmofafags, furfucker.
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>>147144863
It's impressive how she almost does none of what op listed and whatever little might align is blown way out of proportion from like 20 years worth at seethe for a character who doesn't even show up anymore
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>>147145335
>a character who doesn't even show up anymore

She's literally appeared in every IDW issue since the Diamond Cutters formally established themselves.
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>>147145354
I was talking about Sally actually in response to that anon, I think Lanolin is shit like op said
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>>147145354
>She's literally appeared in every IDW issue since the Diamond Cutters formally established themselves.
Can this fucking comic be about Sonic for once?
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>>147144840
>What the fuck is the point of this character?
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>>147145390
To stroke the creator's ego.
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>>147145375
They can't write Sonic how they want, meaning how he was in Archie, so they've got to use expies for it.
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>>147144840
>What the fuck is the point of this character
Being more unpleasant than the Garfield character with the same name.
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>>147144840
I don't like her because her annoying fantards excuse due to her boobs. I could understand Lanolin being able to talk down to characters if she had powers that can rival Sonic. But she doesn't. She's an average denizen of the world with no powers much less status. Even Sally Acorn for as annoying as she was at least had royal status because Sonic's home country is her kingdom. But anyway I digress...

Sonic would never listen to anyone without powers. That's why he respects Blaze and Shadow because he knows that if they get in each other's way Blaze and Shadow will at least give him a fight. Sonic would probably win given the franchise is about him but he would have to earn his win in a debate against them. Lanolin is just trash who doesn't gel with Sonic's way of behaving himself.

And ultimately she suffers the face of a LICENSED character. She's not going to accomplish anything because the franchise is not about her so any time she debates and fights against the SEGA made characters she is wasting the reader's time because we know she will have to lose. And if she wins a licensed character usually wins by being annoying shit which also turns readers away. There is no winning with an OC Do Not Steal from a licensed media.
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>>147145398
They add nothing but melodramatic Steven Universe nonsense to the book. A shit fit for Sonic
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>>147145409
Doesn't help that Sonic is OOC to make Lanaolin and Surge look right when they'd have no case with the actual Sonic.
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>>147145397
No... that's not it...
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>>147144936
gross
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>>147145441
Editing her over Lanolin doesn't change the fact Sally was much more lenient with Sonic n others on the team and wasn't close to being a miserable killjoy like Lanolin
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>>147145462
>miserable killjoy
This is Sonic. Why does it have this?
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>>147145462
>Sally was much more lenient with Sonic n others on the team and wasn't close to being a miserable killjoy like Lanolin
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>>147145435
I said this in Scourage thread lol but I hate the debates and arguments introduced in IDW like botches being made Sonic isn't killing or everything is his fault even though he's the reason the planet even exists half the time.
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>>147145435
>they'd have no case with the actual Sonic.
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>>147145471

See >>147145075
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>>147145471
I dunno, I wasn't one of the people clamoring for Lanolin when she was a background bugger. The only IDW oc I like is Mimic cause he's a cool sea animal and a nasty bastard villain.
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>>147145300
The only animals that matter to furries that draw in the obsessive behavior are dogs, foxes, wolves, and if you want to count it dragons. The rest? They are niche like birds and rodents. After those reptiles. And finally in the lowest standing insects. And now you know why Loona from Helluva Shit is so annoyingly popular.
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>>147145476
>the debates and arguments
Again, this is Sonic. This shit ain't welcome.
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>>147145491
Archie Sonic was full of debates and arguments, so people who prefer the Archie comic think that's what the series needs to be good. And unfortunately, those people are the ones making the comic.
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>>147145491
Yeah that's for the fans to do not the characters in the setting. Also I don't mind like Sonic and Shadow or Knuckles arguing since it's a given but when it's with Lanolin or with the trite topics I mentioned before it just doesn't work.
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>>147145512
I like Archie Sonic but it wasn't for the debates or arguments, it was mainly the characterisation on some of the cast, actions scenes and some fun original villains that added a much larger recurring rogues gallery the games could try, the Council of Acorn was easily one of the weaker parts of 160 onwards.
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>>147145435
As far as Sonic's characterization goes he's been shit since around the time of Unleashed. How Sonic doesn't fucking kill Eggman or Jim Carrey these days is simply annoying. Having Sonic transform into Superman sort of speak and having Eggman turn into a world destroying bastard like Lex Luthor is aggravating. I swear we are one official Sega game away from Eggman doing the Lex Luthor speech of "Sonic you are my best accomplice!"

The instant a hero enables a criminal to keep doing more crimes hurting innocents is the moment the hero loses the hero status. And don't give me the usual excuse of "Eggman makes many doomsday devices like the Death Egg because he has never killed anyone" after so many doomsday end of the world scenarios caused by Eggman it's bullshit by Sega to pretend it has conveniently never killed anyone so that Eggman gets manhunted until killed.
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>>147145490
Furries have boring taste, a shame as reptiles, birds, sea animals and insects are much more interesting animals. Sega could learn that to and make new characters from those pools. Also don't even get me started on furries fucking up sharks, will actually develop a vessel.
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>>147145536
You're an atypical Archie Sonic fan then.
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>>147145398
Not like Sega themselves is any good at writing Sonic. Sonic Forces was not a good display of Sonic's character. And neither was Sonic Frontiers Japanese translation. Sonic hasn't been written well in official media for far too long. And I blame the decline of Sonic's characterization on Sonic Heroes.
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>>147145538
>How Sonic doesn't fucking kill Eggman
Eggman's a gag villain, my guy. Dude ain't real evil, just a bully.
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>>147145550
I mean I'm just a Sonic fan, I like certain games wether classic or modern, like certain adapted continuities or concepts in them and know what I don't like in the series. I liked the games first but also like the other stuff like movies or certain cartoons, though I'm not going to go into all the specifics of my Sonic taste
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>>147145567
>I blame the decline of Sonic's characterization on Sonic Heroes.

You're not wrong, but Heroes wasn't meant to be a narrative-driven game like Adventure 1 and 2 was.

Sonic Adventure 1 and 2's writing worked because it spread itself out over different characters and perspectives. Focusing on Sonic alone is ironically hurting the games because he's a very flat and inflexible character who's meant for the characters who are actually meant to develop to bounce off of.

The problem is the IDW characters just aren't good characters to focus on, and they're not bouncing off of Sonic, they're just hogging the focus away from him.
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>>147145567
Why specifically Sonic Heroes? Is it more so what personality elements are focused on their or what?
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>>147145567
He's in-chatacter in X.
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>>147145456
Hilarious because Sega games Sonic is no different. How he hasn't killed Eggman is hideous. It wouldn't be so bad if Eggman stayed goofy and silly but we know that's not the case. To quote Sonic Adventure 2:

"You're turned into a REAL villain doctor!"

And that is why Eggman has deserved to intentionally get his ass killed off. And it's sad how the only time Sega humored killing Eggman was in one of the Shadow the Hedgehog alternate endings.
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>>147145602
Nigga, Eggman isn't the guy in the comics. He's a clown. He's Emperor Pilaf, Dick Dastardly and Team Rocket.
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>>147145615
He's all that whenever he's facing down Sonic or anybody else from the games.

When dealing with any IDW OC, he turns into the pure-distilled-evil Eggman from Archie.
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>>147145623
>When dealing with any IDW OC, he turns into the pure-distilled-evil Eggman from Archie.
Ugh
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>>147145583
That would be Bowser. He's a bully oaf. Bowser from Mario...

- Has a son whom he loves for real.
- Has minions who love working for him because he's a great boss.
- Bowser legit loves Princess Peach and wants to make a wedding with her official.

Eggman? Lets see in the Japanese Sonic OVA he tried to be a creepy groomer to that princess implying he was going to sexually have his way with her and force her rape her into birthing his offspring. But lets not count that as its not the video games. Still, Eggman has a history of his own creations abandoning him exactly because he's too much of an evil cunt who only loves himself. And it wasn't until Sega invented Sage that they are pretending that Eggman is a loving silly villain father who loves his creations which rings HOLLOW after all these decades of more than one of Eggman's creations betraying him for being vile. Pure retcon shit. And I adamantly reject it.

Sorry Sega but you can shove it with that bullshit that doesn't work. You want an Eggman who is silly and goofy at least make a NEW universe like Sonic Boom did anything else? Go to hell.
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>>147145602
Why are you this upset over them not killing one of the best characters in the series? Another villain would just take his place anyway if he did die or more likely sega would just resurrect him since he's so ubiquitous with Sonic that it's insane not to have him like how Archie struggled after Robotnik died in issue 50 with what the plot should even be.
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>>147145634
>he tried to be a creepy groomer to that princess implying he was going to sexually have his way with her and force her rape her into birthing his offspring
You're looking too deep into it. It's a gag. You've never watched anime?
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>>147145641
Dude's autistic.
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>>147145641
I'm personally very sick and tired of Eggman, just like I'm sick and tired of Bowser in Mario.

Ideally, I'd just want an expanded cast of recurring villains in Sonic, ones that aren't linked to Eggman.

But then again we'd probably just get more trash like this.
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>>147145634
>Has a son whom he loves for real.
Has an AI daughter that he loves.
>Has minions who love working for him because he's a great boss.
His robots.
>Bowser legit loves Princess Peach and wants to make a wedding with her officia
Eggman loves fighting Sonic wants to best him through his own genius.
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>>147145657
I do hard agree on a expanded cast of recurring villains actually since that was one of my fave parts of Archie Sonic. Frankly the games not having frequent animal villains is just bizarre, Infinite being apparently a one shot is such a shame since if they just used him more like Silver, except this case is a character I actually like, then he could be salvaged and even bounce back from the fumbling in Forces after some solid moments. Like Black Doom coming back was nice in Shadow Generations but it still makes me wish had more recurring villains of note. Like insects, sea animals and all sorts would be ripe for unique bad guy designs.
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>>147145700
Eggman's the Dr Nefarious of Sonic.
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>>147145696
The problem with Infinite is he's too difficult of a concept to work with. His powers are ill-defined and most normies who played Forces straight up didn't understand how they worked or what was ever actually going on. It's not something Sonic can handle or take down like the usual Eggboss. This isn't helped by the fact the Phantom Ruby's powers seem to change with each appearance.

Infinite needs a rework before he can ever really be used again.
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>>147145717
I mean that's easy enough, keep his outfit but either have him draw from a new gem of power that he better masters/is more defined or have him lose it and have to become a threat on his own merits, could even bring the sword back he had in that prequel comic that showed him maskless.
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>>147145744
>Yes but Nefarious hasn't really done anything too evil and destructive.
Neither has Eggman.
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>>147145743
So how can anybody fight back against whatever it is Infinite is capable of in your suggestion?
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>>147145754
>Neither has Eggman.

-Unleashed Chaos and flooded/destroyed Station Square
-Blew up 1/4 of the Moon using the Eclipse cannon
-Literally blew up the planet to free Dark Gaia
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>>147145733
Surprised they never introduced a villain who's deal was genetics and either cloning or mutating life into new forms to contrast the mechs and robots of Dr Eggman. Could have the boss fights be they inject themselves with a serum for different combat forms or just summon whatever bio monster for the stage
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>>147145769
>Eggman killed him using him as a battery for his final weapon from that game.

I don't remember that.
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>>147145657
At least Zeena is the corn niblet in the turd that is the Zetis
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>>147145764
>Unleashed Chaos and flooded/destroyed Station Square
Not his intention. Chaos went rogue.
>Blew up 1/4 of the Moon using the Eclipse cannon
So?
>Literally blew up the planet to free Dark Gaia
And yet everyone was A-OK with that unless it was night.
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>>147145778
And the moment Sonic Lost World actually released, the entire fandom lost interest in Zeena in an instant.
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>>147145755
Well suppose either have the gem be something like just letting him make energy constructs like a Green Lantern or instead just energy blasts where it is a solid power but one still defeatable in a boss fight with him being weaker then on forces or having him without the gem and just with the sword where though the ruby might've made him stronger permanently in a durability sense he doesn't have any of the powers he did before and just has the sword to rely on once more with no illusions, teleporting or red cubes like used to in a fight.
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>>147145795
Shame as I find Zeena much more sexually appealing on a design point then Lanolin
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>>147145801
>Infinite with a sword

Sonic gameplay doesn't really lend itself well to the idea of sword combat outside of Sonic and the Black Knight. Might as well just give Infinite a big stick that he uses like a magic wand to conjure up red crap.
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>>147144840
It's funny that Sonic's probably going to face more repercussions for his stint as the Phantom Rider that Lanolin will for being a shitty leader.
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>>147145842
No he won't, it'll be glossed over as if it never even happened, same for Lanolin.
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>>147145822
Oh I don't mean you sword fight him back, was thinking like how Erazor Djinn has a melee weapon in his boss fight with slash effects....though he also has the fight design advantage of being much bigger suppose. Actually you did remind me the Deadly Six do laser and energy blasts which is just a thing they do alongside the technology control stuff, holy shit the Zeti are so undefined.
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>>147145811
Eggman actually is completely absent in Black Knight with Merlina as the focus villain....which does remind me a recurring magic or supernatural villain in the series would be nice, Ixis Naugus was fantastic for that in the comics but I'd like the games to do something different with the concept, could have another female villain and maybe use a fitting animal like a Crow, spider or a lizard.
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>>147144840
>What the fuck is the point of this character?
Represents the militant side of Restoration.

All Sonic characters are just talking-walking teddy bears, don't take them that seriously. They're honestly not that far off from carebears. Lanolin becomes military oriented during the metal virus arc and then offers to put together a strike team for Restoration, which is why she is in lead.

>>147145766
Starline was originally supposed to create Surge and Kit, not kidnap them. That was shot down by SEGA, as that would be too close to what Eggman and Gerald are capable of.
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>>147145890
>Lanolin becomes military oriented during the metal virus arc and then offers to put together a strike team for Restoration, which is why she is in lead.

Something she is horribly unqualified for.
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>>147145890
Nice fanfiction, now write it instead of posting about in on 4chan.
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>>147145890
To be fair Gerald being the first or only person to make a unique biological lifeform fits since it makes Shadow more impressive and a much more significant achievement even if he had Black Doom's dna to help, heck if made a geneticist villain have them obsessed with making a purely created lifeform like Shadow was instead of their array of clones or mutations.
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>>147145478
I would not say British sonic is THE Sonic, too assholey. ova with a mix of adventure and unleashed works best
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>>147145456
I understood that reference.
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>>147145595
This is what static means right? He doesn’t change, but everyone else does?
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>heck if made a geneticist villain have them obsessed with making a purely created lifeform like Shadow was instead of their array of clones or mutations.
Gerald was supposed to come back as the big bad for Shad05, but was replaced with Black Doom.
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>>147145914
>Nice fanfiction
How would you describe the character development during her background character period?
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>>147145927
>with making a purely created lifeform like Shadow was instead of their array of clones or mutations
Shadow was a clone of some random hedgehog, you see a bunch of his former clones in tubes in various ARK cutscenes, this one was just the first one also injected with Black Doom cum
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>>147146013
also it's part of the backstory for Biolizard, that Gerald was just cloning whatever earth animals had good longevity or regen so he started by cloning salamanders (then moved on to hedgehogs for whatever reason)
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>>147146013
Was that in Shadow Generations or SA2? Either way I must've missed that somehow, if have a pic of it do send please
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>>147146023
>then moved on to hedgehogs for whatever reason
Because Sonic's a god or whatever.
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>>147145994
That cover goes hard, guessing they'd of explained Gerald being alive through cybernetics considering the Dr Gero head casing on the cover.
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>>147146023
He should've stuck with Lizards, Shadow being a anthro lizard would've been pretty radical
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In ShtH in the cutscene where the young G.U.N. Commander sees Gerald's lab you see his former clones in different tubes, only half-grown
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>>147145895
Sonic can run fast, yes.
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>>147146039
Damn I think Gerald would be better off dead, but I want to see this as a what if story for a comic or whatever.
I think also a genetic manipulating scientist would’ve been cool, kinda like a “Plays God and with Nature” against Sonic’s “Respects and Protects Nature”
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>>147144840
It's like the Sonic comic sucks, especially when it isn't focused on Sonic or the main characters or something...
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>>147144840
She's a valid girlboss who's right in everything she did. Y'all just hate her because she's a little mean. I hope she replaces Sonic as the protagonist, and if they ever do anything to her that majorly puts her on the side of wrong (lile making her a villain) I'm quitting this stupid fucking book.
If you disagree, just admit you hate women and go.
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>>147146085
Imagine if he was the one who created Surge and Kit.
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>>147146068
.....how did I never noticed that, I must've played that game and scene that cutscene so many times growing up
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a lot of the shadows only grew blobs of innards
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>>147146085
This would make for a fun concept for a fancomic at least with vengeful Gerald having to confront Shadow and him sabotaging his planner revenge on mankind. Also not sure if would aim for genetic manipulating scientist to be either well meaning in goals of bettering the genetic baseline of all life or a delusional maniac playing with living beings lives to as you said play god in the pursuit of a supreme lifeform....would think a sexy lady be neat for the role whether human or mobian tho.
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>>147146174
That is actually a nice touch, thanks for showcasing that my dude
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>>147146180
Maybe he'd bribe Shadow with a clone of Maria?
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>>147146102
Hi Evan
You still suck as head writer, btw
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I just came here to remind everyone that Tangle is best girl.
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>>147146199
I'm not sure Gerald can do that and if he'd even try but I could see it being an empty bluff to test Shadow. I think a neat twist with the geneticist character idea if they actually had no interest in Shadow and ironically wanted to refine the Bio-lizard's potential/blueprinting for the Supreme lifeform due to its purely on world form without Shadow's black arms DNA which would be viewed as a cheat or crutch in their eyes.
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>>147145634
>How Sonic doesn't fucking kill Eggman or Jim Carrey these days is simply annoying.
Back in the 2000s, it was less "Sonic doesn't want to kill Eggman", so much as "Eggman is incredibly good at avoiding death". Dude gets his ship laser'd in half by Perfect Chaos (SA1), sucked into a black hole (Colors), and trapped at the end of time (Generations) and he keeps fucking coming back. Helps that he can outrun Sonic in a pinch (Classic games + Sonic 4).
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>>147146068
make this guy Shadow's new rival, 'Shadow Prime'.
He's just a head so they gotta carry him around in a basket like Belial. He calls Shadow "faker" and "my loathsome copy" a lot
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>Another IDW Sonic thread
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>>147146253
Eggman has robot bodies he swaps to when the previous one gets destroyed. He'll always come back.
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>>147146302
Get her fucking wool off.
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>>147144863
I’m going to have to keep posting this in every thread, am I?

There one major difference between Sally and Lanolin that separates them. Sally, for the most part, led with a care for her friends and for her people and with a fear of losing them. As for her being bossy, she at least has a reason to be that way. She’s the literal fucking princess. As time goes on in the comics, Sally matures as a leader anyway.

Lanolin leads others but LOATHES IT. Everyone around her is like an obstacle, someone beneath her that is in the way of her achieving her goals and her rise to power. She constantly shits on the other Diamond Cutters and on the main cast even though she has next to no credentials for her supposed authority. My main question is, why does she exist as a character? She just feels like a Mary Sue OC that got written in and now the writers don’t have a single clue on how to make a satisfying payoff. Lanolin supposedly started off a startled civilian but then suddenly is this hardened military larper? What? If anything, she is the IDW equivalent of Geoffrey St. John. But even Geoffrey ended up having more merit for his authority and ended up getting a pretty sick backstory and plot twist.

I’m just going to copy this into a document so I can paste it every time we have a Sonic thread and someone decides to be media-illiterate about Sally and Lano
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>>147146242
No, that would be Sticks
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>>147146419
You're correct, though I should've clarified I was talking within the IDW comics.
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>>147146434
Ohhh my bad. I agree with you then, in that case.
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>>147144840
Honestly shocked we already have another IDW thread we were just hating on surge. Might as well have made it another comparison thread lol.

But to answer your question no one knows, but more meta answer is to be a lamb wank tank for ABT and mobian "fans". She lives off of being a cute female character so any hate she gets, is alleviated by her simps saying "you just hate females" or that she's the "squidward" we need a mean character. The thing is you can't have a mean character just come in and take over and be in charge when in canon they are the least experienced and weakest member. People compare her to Sally but she's more close to Antoine who was a bit of a ass early on but the point was no one respected him or saw him as just all talk. He was constantly shown up and humiliated but this led to his character growth and becoming a true hero and leader in his own right. Lanolin doesn't have this as no one puts her down or blows her off they all listen to her the buzzkill is meant to be hated internally and usually externally but many times they can build up a fanbase like squidward has or Antoine did. Lanolin just gets a slap on the wrist and instant respect which just makes her feel weird as if we are meant to like/forgive her.
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>>147145441
And I’ll even use this meme edit as a reference AGAIN. The Sally does not work here because it feels really off. Lanolin is, again, a character that LOATHES leading others, and that doesn’t translate well over to Sally. Especially that bottom panel.
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>>147145538
I know some people hate that plot from Archie but I think the meta-plot of "If sonic killed Eggman, he'd just be given an eggman from a dimension where Eggman killed Sonic to keep things balanced" is fine. Sonic prefers to deal with an Eggman whose damage he can mostly mitigate at the end of the day and who he always so far manages to pull a W against. The harder you force him to go, the worse it actually gets for everyone, because his opposition just gets more unhinged for each one he strikes down and Saturday Morning cartoon Eggman is preferable to keep alive over getting a grimdark replacement one.
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>>147145599
No he’s not. Sonic would never coddle a spoiled crybaby like Chris.
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>>147145441
>>147144863
See difference is Sally is a princess who's kingdom is gone and fighting a failing war against a evil dictator. So her being "bossy" was played as the straight man to Sonic's arrogance and uncaring nature. They worked way better as sonic wasn't as kind as he is in idw. sonic was a kid too so sally sometimes had to reign him in as he could be selfish and naive especially since he was portrayed as young and brash.

Sally didn't choose her position she just felt it was her responsibility she even admits many times she wanted to not become queen/princess after the war was over but she knew it was something people need as a war torn continent they needed leaders and hope. Lanolin hates the job but has no claim to it or reason, she could go back to her village and nothing changes not a damn thing.
>>147145462
This Sally may have been poorly written at times or a tryhard but she actually was part of a darker story and more serious plotlines. She still wasn't nearly as rude or miserable as lanolin is. An again her friends would die if she made the wrong calls and people would hate her for it, lanolin makes a massive wrong call and all she gets is a "aw well you messed up but just do better next time sweetie."
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>>147145478
We need more edits/redraws like this of what would other sonic do. Though isn't this fleetway or is the style confusing me?
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I don't get why this character is controversial.
She's clearly supposed to be disliked. It's intentional. They keep having her fuck up and even have reactions showing she knows she fucked up. All while having her primary character trait as being very judgemental of other characters. The character designer even has unofficial comics where she's even more blatantly antagonistic.
Why is there this division of readers going:
>"Maybe this strawman for incompetent authority is actually in the right?!?!"
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>>147146736
It’s because she’s a badly written character. There are characters that are meant to be unlikeable that are written well, Lanolin is just not one of them. Lanolin started off a scared civilian in the first IDW issues. Suddenly, she appear later on as a “hardened soldier” and then she gets to lead the diamond cutters like she is some sort of big deal. She also constantly challenges the authority of the main protagonists… and with no grounds. She is never given any backstory that shows HOW she earned her authority or how she went from scared civilian to this military larper in such a short time. Lanolin is just a Mary Sue that has no real purpose in this story other than maybe be gooner bait.
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>>147146736
Well it's because she has simps that can't see her that way, and even in the story they bend over backwards to forgive and push her. Like her mimic fiasco she was immediately forgiven by tangle and even whisper who she threw down and called unprofessional. The scene was only 2-4 panels of focus on the concept but had been set up for like 6+ issues. It amounting to a my bad was unsatisfying and makes it seem like lanolin can't be chastised properly.
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>>147146771
I don't think her not being relatable, reasonable or likeable even qualifies as bad writing though (not to imply this comic doesn't have a lot of that). It feels like people assume she has personable and have understandable reasons for her actions because she's cute. But as far as I can tell she could be a parody of someone's shitty boss. Some people just aren't pleasant or reasonable. Both characters and people in real life.
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>>147146736
Yeah, but the "imtentionally msde to be disliked" thing only works if she recieves ACTUAL COMEUPPANCE for it, which it's looking like she isn't
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>>147146842
They just don't want girl Squidward to get into much trouble cause she's cute. She's still clearly just supposed to be a stick in the mud who can't cope with the internal logic of the comic.
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>>147146804
>I don't think her not being relatable, reasonable or likeable is bad
That’s not what I’m saying. It’s her PLACEMENT in the story that makes no sense. Again, she started off as a scared civilian. Suddenly she’s the leader of the Diamond Cutters out of nowhere and is constantly challenging higher authority. Any sensible person would have looked into her credentials and figured out that she has nothing in her background and tell her to fuck off. Hell, even Archie’s story writers had the sense to do this with Geoffrey one time, there was an issue where his credentials were questioned and investigated. With IDW, we are at a crossroads. Either Lanolin actually has credentials, in which when the writers should show them to us through a backstory, OR, everyone else in the comic is mind-numbingly retarded by letting Lanolin get her way or not reeling her in when really she shouldn’t be trusted so easily.
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>>147144840
>What the fuck is the point of this character?

There's some REALLY good porn of her.
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>>147146736
On the contrary, I believe this character is SUPPOSED to be controversial.
Everything you said about the way Lanolin is written is correct. But the choice to make her a cute girl, knowing fully well how this fanbase functions, was entirely deliberate.
They knew people would rush to white knight her no matter how firmly they put her in the wrong. And they knew there were enough level headed fans actually reading between the lines to push back against these simps.
They wanted a character exclusive to these comics that would get people talking (in this case, bickering), and they already tried standard protagonists and antagonists.
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I like Lanolin and I'm tired of pretending I don't.
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>>147146868
They canonically let Knuckles be the military strategist for the world's last army despite him being a loner who is usually characterized as being shortsighted and doesn't plan ahead. They ARE mind numbingly dumb, because Forces happened.
This comic picked the worst game to springboard off of, I swear.
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>>147146897
You never pretended, you've been pretty loud about it actually.
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>>147144840
>What the fuck is the point of this character?
At first I thought she was supposed to be an antagonist who distrusts the heroes despite technically being on the same side like Amanda Waller but after #75 happened and she got a slap on the wrist I don’t know what the fuck they are doing with her, I don’t think the writers know either. She’s like a parody of a girl boss now, like she’s horrifically incompetent but everyone still acts like she’s some noble leader who deserves a third chance.
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>>147146912
>They canonically let Knuckles be the military strategist for the world's last army despite him being a loner who is usually characterized as being shortsighted and doesn't plan ahead.
Yes, but at least there were conscequences in-universe with the whole Operation: Big Wave thing
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She's such a fuckup, I like her.
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>>147146959
Knuckles also gets no shit for it though. Just Silver questioning the logic of the whole situation.
The consequences are dead nobodies. And in Frontiers they dug their heels in with Knuckles fetishizing military command, so apparently he didn't learn anything from it.
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>>147145478
>I live for the mo-MMMMMMMMmmmmmmmmmmmmppppppppppppphhhh mmmmmm
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>>147144840
>insists on being a buzzkill at every turn
what do you want her to do?
whip her tits out?
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>>147147428
Be not there
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>>147147428
>whip her tits out?
It would be a start
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>>147147428
I want her to get decked in the face by Blaze and then crushed by a boulder from Silver
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To make Surge look good
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I quite like that Surge and Kit are based on Sonic and Tails's canon fears.

my only gripe is that sonic should be a little more snippy.
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>>147147334
Literally born to be a Sonic victim.
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>>147147496
they are victims of love...
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>>147145842
>Sonic
>repercussions
Good one
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>>147147496
Genetically made to be perfect punching bag
>>147147517
She can be a victim and loved
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>>147145663
None of his fucking robots like working for him, it's a literal plot point that they don't and the feeling is mutual with Eggman. The very moment they gain a hint of sentience they try and overthrow him, from Heavy King to Neo Metal. Even Orbot and Cubot openly shit talk him every chance they get.
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>>147146317
That's just Archie shit, fuck off.
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>>147144840
My question is... why the fuck hasn't Evan once commented on Lanolin's controversial appearances (especially considering she wrote the offending issues)
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>>147147663
Not to mention the ones that DON'T want to overthrow him still hate him once they even get a hint of sentience. Gamma, Omega, Gemerl...
Hell there's even an ENTIRE FACTION of abandoned Badniks that turned on their master and want to live in peace
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>>147147708
Why should she? You want Silverfags to scream at her?
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>>147147686
NTA but what’s wrong with it exactly? Wouldn’t that be something that Eggman do? At the very least, he would want to be a transhumanist in order to be immortal, as in have a synthetic body.
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>>147147496
>>147145478
I miss surge abuse/bullying art and greens
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>>147147811
Is there more?
Post some.
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>>147146256
You could give him Black Arm tentacles he uses to move around with, ala Dimitri
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She's Sally 2.0.

The hate is understandable.
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>>147147774
Eggman values himself far too much to reduce himself to a mere robot. He creates robots with the intent to control them, it makes no sense to downgrade himself into that very same oppression tool. He doesn't even do that with actual animals, every animal he captures is usually safe and guarded inside the robot, and is freed when destroyed.

The concept of robotitization as a whole is exclusively a SatAM concept that fundamentally misses the point of Eggman's character.
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>>147147606
Made to be in an abusive relationship with Sonic that she herself extorted him into by guilt tripping him.
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>>147147868
why is this hot as fuck
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>>147147827
Used to be a lot, but now all those greens and drawfags are lost
>>147147868
It's more like she's a secret maso, so she purposefully eggs on Sonic to think she's an actual threat, and then he demolishes her in a fight.
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Why do you all like seeing Surge get hurt?
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>>147147969
We're schizos
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>>147147868
>>147147964
cringe
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>>147147773
Nah, I just want her mindset and insight on how she's currently writing the character
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>>147148158

"Hmmm, how can I make her gay..."
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>>147147964
Cannon.
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>>147144863
Lanolin is literally a cardboard character compared to Sally and I don't even like Archie.
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So is there anything that the IDW Sonic comics have over Archie Sonic or Fleetway Sonic? Because so far, I'm not seeing any reason to pick a single comic in the IDW run
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>>147148380

No shitty Freedom Fighters.
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>>147148385
In every world they meet, Surge is destined to lose to Sonic.
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>>147148224
This scene is both hilarious from a surge abuse anon sense but terrible for a surge fan sense. As it really pushes the narrative that surge is a pussy/punk, she really was like "ha what if I destroyed everything while you aren't here" then he responded "then I'd beat the shit out of you and she immediately got scared". but she's supposed to want to kill sonic so does that mean she accepts she's weaker than him lol
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>>147147863
Not a mere robot. Eggman would wish to be something *more*. More than human, more than a mere machine. A higher being, if you will. Whatever it is, it explains why he is so fucking durable in the games, including in very recent media. That’s not a regular human at all. Flesh is too weak for Eggman and it ages. He would crave something more…
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>>147148473

>it explains why he is so fucking durable in the games, including in very recent media

He's the main villain in a children's franchise. And its funny.
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>>147147839
Boco at this point I know you’re just goofing around because I don’t think that even you are this media-illiterate especially after how this has been explained in many threads already
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Please stop posting ship art of Sonic and this punk tenric, Sonic doesn't even like mobians. He prefers human women.
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>>147148488

Mostly, yeah. She does really remind me of the squirrel bitch though.

>>147148511

You mean purple cats.
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>>147148511
No.
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>>147148516
>You mean purple cats.
Fuck off with your shit taste, Boco. Sonaze is the worst Sonic ship next to Sonadow, Sonails, or any other gay ship.
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>>147148425
That sounds hilarious but kind of wholesome

>I'll lose to you in every universe"
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>>147148563
Its better than Sonamy.
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>>147148563
Purple cats are hot and Sonic thinks so too.
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>>147148593
It's very cute, Quaver has some great Sonurge stuff.

>>147148456
Yeah, it would have been better in Surge rose to his threat and responded on kind like he did, or get flustered and blush because their faces are so close.
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>>147148665
Sonic is a Silvaze shipper
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>>147148747
Doesn’t disprove what I said though.
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>>147148747

No no, when he says that he means "Blaze, you're such a good chaperone for that little moron".
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>>147147496
It's not abuse if she secretly likes it
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>>147148803
>It's not abuse if she secretly likes it
>t. Sonic
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They should team up.
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>>147148846
Yes, team up in getting married.
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Female villains with electric powers were made for the goody two shoes hero
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your first mistake, and the mistake of most people in the Sonic fandom, is thinking you know better than the writers
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>>147144840
I get it. You're gay.
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>>147148879
>>147148846
It's immovable object against unstoppable force, and goddamn does it work better than just about any 'official' love interest.
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>>147148714
Yeah, really crazy how surgamy fans tried to kill off sonurge and now it's stronger than ever. Quaver is the new goat but buttermoth is still a classic.

Exactly, also lol the latter is so dumb but would be cute. She really should have rose to the threat as her getting scared makes her seem like she accepts she could never beat sonic without the cage or 2 v 1.
>>147148803
Hot, did you make this anon? An you aren't wrong but hotter if she hates that she likes it.
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>>147148846
>>147148879
>>147148935
Honestly how would you make this work?
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>>147148926
your first mistake, and the mistake of most blind consoomers, is thinking the hack writers know anything at all
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>>147148986
I did not, I just have a surprisingly large amount of Sonic related images, even though I haven't even watched the three live action movies yet.
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>>147145354
Leave them to me.
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>>147149047
Haven't seen the third one yet, but the first two are legitimately enjoyable. It's not the rote slop some people were worried it was going to be.
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>>147144863
Lanolin is sheep girl Hamlin.
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>>147149079
I know I know, I planned to watch them for Jim Carry alone, but for some reason I never get to it.
In fact I haven't watched any movies for a few years now.
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>>147145375
No. They don’t understand how to write Canon Sonic, so whenever they try, it’s always terrible and out of character.
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>>147145976
Yeah.
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>>147148986
I have an identical file in my Surge folder so he probably didn't make it. Still pretty hot.
Anyways there's just not much to surgamy, it has that girrly girl x punk girl appeal but they don't interact much or think about each other. From what I've seen it's mainly an ao3 ship alongside Jewel X Surge but neither of them gets much fanart or love outside of ao3 when compared to sonurge.
If only Surge rose to that threat so her and Sonic could have more fight sex.
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>>147145478
the otiginal one is better than the other one.
but they are both garbage.
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>>147148846
>Sonic and Surge destroying billions of robots and pissing off Eggman
>>147148879
>Sonic and Surge visiting their child's clarinet concert
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>>147145489
I hate him because he’s retarded, and only got away with being Duo for so long because other characters are more glue than him.
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>>147145599
True
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>>147149002
Well first off, I think they need a healthier rivalry and Surge needs to come to terms with what happened in her past and how that affects how she's acting.
Like Surge is a dumb idiot jobber, but she needs to be aware she's been acting stupidly and know her own problems, then move to address those problems. Also that would involve punching things and getting stronger so she can stand on alongside sonic on an equal playing field instead of picrel.
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>>147146646
If abandoning your child since the moment he could form memories is your definition of spoiling them, I’d hate to see what think abuse is.
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>>147145478
>What you see is what you get. I’m just a guy who loves adventure.
How hard is it for Ian and Evan to get this right? Sonic shouldn’t be yapping like this.
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>>147149047
Same, but i did see the movies also nice anymore good surge bullying/ryona stuff?
>>147149128
Yee just wondering remember that artist is a drawfag if it's who I think it is. So thought oh he's posting here though he's usually in sthg.

That is true and I don't hate it just the fans as you know the og sonurge artist got harrassed by surgamy fans. An also anytime I'm on twitter looking it up I see like 5 hate post saying how much they hate sonurge because of bs reasons. It's so weird as I don't see the same vice versa but that's probably why sonurge got so big.

Also yee fight sex is great best if surge is losing side
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>>147149156
>ate more glue
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>>147146894
This
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>>147149047
>just have a surprisingly large amount of Sonic related images

Anon, just say that you’re autistic, we all are here.
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I can see Surge falling in love with Sonic as a side effect of her programming. Through her longing to be like Sonic, she learns to love what it means to be Sonic, and thus loves Sonic himself instead of hating him, causing much turmoil within her.
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>>147149235
Alas, I do not. At least nothing that hasn't already been posted in this thread.
This is the closest to bullying I have left, although teasing is probably more fitting.
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>>147149294
People like you are part of the problem.
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>>147146736
Because people constantly defend her.
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>>147149235
I have some Surge biting back. But yeah it's a shame some people can't just leave others to enjoy their ship in peace and have to make it a whole culture war thingy.
At least we were lucky enough to bet Sonurge fight sex in the comics.
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>>147145657
Problem is IDW can't keep its fucking villains
>Clutch amounted to nothing and is now under Eggman's thumb
>Skunk bros got scared by Vanilla and want to be good
>Mimic has gone on the run... again
>Starline is dead
>Surge and Kit, despite still being antagonistic, want to be Heroes
>The Zeti are back on the Lost Hex
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>>147148486
He attempts to destroy planets and suck the life out of animals for his robots.
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>>147149365
Is she biting his muzzle or his eye?
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>>147149379
>suck the life out of animals for his robots.

They're just batteries, they're fine afterwards.
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>>147149398
What do you think happens to batteries when you drain them dry?
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>>147149387
No idea
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>>147148486
He’s also an insane war criminal
>Eggman starts trapping harmless animals to power his robots
>Eggman attempts to blow up Station Square, when the missile is a dud, he goes to manually detonate it
>Eggman blows up half the moon, as a warning shot
>Eggman has taken Amy hostage and threatened her life a total of three times
>Eggman threatens to blow up Soleanna if Elise doesn't return to his custody willingly
>Eggman cracks the planet into pieces
>Eggman abducts 4 planets, starts kidnaping aliens and draining them of their life energy to power a mind control device that'd let him brainwash the planet and mechanizes the planets as well
>Eggman attempts to recreate time and space in his image with the Time Eater
>Eggman creates a device that allows him to drain the life energy of the planet itself, just to power his machines
>Eggman successfully takes over the world, dooming it to fear, misery and pollution forever
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>>147149468
Silver shouldn’t need his lady friend to fight his battles for him, and shouldn’t be such an uwu softboi.
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>>147149294
Something like this?
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>>147149528
Whoa, where'd those boobs come from?
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She forces the comic to be a military drama like Archie was rather than fun adventures.
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>>147149535
It's just how the artist likes drawing her.
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>>147149545

At least the Restoration is finally gone.

Hopefully.
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>>147149566
No way they are gonna keep it gone forever even Tangle points out how it can come back.
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Everything boils down to shipping and we're worse off for it. Sega was right to forbid it.
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>>147149566
It's already been confirmed the Restoration isn't going anywhere.
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>>147149584
What was the point of destroying the HQ?
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>>147149591
What was the point in frying Surge's brain?
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Why is she such a Schizo retard?
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>>147149615
Untreated mental illness, also this isn't cannon.
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>>147149615
Because ABT is an Archietard who can't adapt to the game-based setting.
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>>147149645
He's not even a writer
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>>147149672
He wrote >>147149615
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>>147149645

He only draws.

Boobs. He draws boobs.
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>>147149645
All ABT did was design her. Lanolin was then left to be molded by Ian and Evan
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>>147149622
I know it’s not a cannon. It’s a comic.
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>>147149682
I mean he didn't write anything for IDW, just because he makes fancomics doesn't make them cannon.
He probably has little to no influence on how Evan or Ian writes Lanolin.
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I kinda stopped taking these threads seriously with the disingenuous assholes. Like that one faggot acting like Sonic doesn’t get focus at all, etc.
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>>147149615
This is honestly way more interesting than the development that Lano has been given so far canonically… which is next to nothing. Would explain really well why she doesn’t like Sonic and his friends. I’ve been craving this sort of antagonist for a while, someone who sees Sonic and co as a threat to the world due to their way of dealing with their enemies.
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>>147148747
>>147149468
06 continues to be the worst thing to ever happen to her.
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>>147149615
Eggman's a gag villain in the games. He's a bully with resources. It's why he'd get upstaged by the actual big bads for the games except for OGs and a select few. Making him a genocidal maniac is missing the point
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>>147149717
>Like that one faggot acting like Sonic doesn’t get focus at all
When he does, he's written OOC
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>>147149744

Thats okay, it doesn't count. Shadow Generations even goes out of its way to say its an alternate timeline.
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>>147149749
In the games is where he’s constantly doing the worst shit imaginable. That, and the comics are canon to the games, no matter how garbage it is.
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>>147149759
He can’t be OOC when it’s currently approved and looked over by glorious nippon :))))
Cope and Seethe :)))
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>>147149728
>I’ve been craving this sort of antagonist for a while, someone who sees Sonic and co as a threat to the world due to their way of dealing with their enemies.
It's people like you who ruin this shit for everybody. Again, Eggman's a GAG VILLAIN. He's not a legitimate threat because he's easy pickings for Sonic and co. Just another Tuesday to beat his ass. The guy ain't some blood thirsty conqueror wanting to enslave the populace. He's just some asshole who wants his face everywhere and to be loved by everybody.
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>>147149793

And fulfill his amusement park fetish.
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>>147149792
>He can’t be OOC when it’s currently approved and looked over by glorious nippon
They only fuck with the art. The writing's whatever for them. As long as everyone looks the same, they don't care. A licensed comic is a licensed comic, something Sonic fans refuse to understand.
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>>147149793
>Eggman's a GAG VILLAIN

Only when dealing with game characters. Put him up against an IDW OC and he goes full hardcore.
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>>147149812
Lay off the copium. That shits bad for you.
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>>147149749
Game Eggman has:
>Turned a bunch of animals into power sources for robots
>Enslaved an entire planet
>Created a space station capable of destroying entire solar systems
>Nuked an entire island in hopes of killing Sonic
>Pissed on the moon and was willing to piss on the earth too.
>Split the planet apart
>Took over the world, toppled governments, and burned entire cities to the ground and let his pet Jackal psychologically attack the remaining populace. Probably used nuclear weapons again for this conquest.
>He does this all in the name of conquering nature and to win over Sonic with his philosophy of technological supremacy.

He can come off as goofy but he’s not just a gag villain
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>>147149839
>Created a space station capable of destroying entire solar systems
That was his granddad.
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>GAG VILLAIN GAG VILLAIN GAG VILLAIN
Who left their broken record here?!
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>>147149859
I’m talking about the Death Egg. And Eggman, again, was willing to use the Eclipse canon on the earth if he didn’t get what he wanted.
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The problem with the whole "Eggman is a gag villain" deal is that now its only whenever he's dealing with Sonic, never going into serious mode while dealing with him, only whenever he's dealing uh comic OCs. It's a very ugly look.
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>>147149200
True honestly I think crazed surge is good but the crying and being overly broken is just getting lame and depressing. I think she's a good strength for another good guy, if she was evil she'd need to be stronger but we already have tons of powerhouses on the hero side villians we got nothing. So best to have her just get a bit more competent and keep some of her naivety so she's still her own worst enemy but a fun play off of sonic like jet. He's not super strong but is fun and cool, even if he's a joke at time.
>>147149310
Damn I've got a few more myself don't worry, also yeah teasing surge is the more wholesome bullying, she's not so tough kek.
>>147149365
Heh I'd love to see that

also yeah really what killed surgamy because the fans of it are such schizos. Also biting surge is funny I feel it's not even vindictive either her instincts to kill him or just her idea of kissing.
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>>147149294
Kind of hot concept though I like idea of her being a ex fan girl that just becomes more obsessed but mix of both kill and love. But the inner turmoil would be interesting or hilarious.
>>147149528
>>147149554
I love the way he draws surge, also damn that second outfit is so adorable and sexo.

Def a peak casual surge concept.

One thing I didn't like was him making older cream super tall and tails a manlet in comparison. Was a weird choice and every other older design fits but those two makes it feel like he's a tails shota guy lol
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How many issues do you think we will be dealing with the fall of the Restoration HQ?

Will this event still be referenced next year?
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>>147149002
>New baddie starts shit
>Sonic and friends leave to take care of it.
>Surge is at the 'détente' stage of their 'relationship', neither with or against him, but begrudgingly grateful for helping her see the light about her former employers.
>She sees/hears the villain's threat
>Wide open eyes, thousand yard stare
>"Sonic..."
>Cut to the Sonic team mowing through sentries/scouts or the like on their way to the big bad's location.
>Lots of fun action panels/banter with the bad guy
>Surge out of fucking nowhere arrives and wreaks havoc, stopping the Sonic gang in their tracks
>Huge fight
>She's uncontrollably, Blood for the Blood God-tier, enraged
>Knocks the shit out of the team, maybe even putting some out of commission for the rest of the comic
>She arrives, beats the fuck out of them, and leaves, with not a word said
>"What the hell was that about?!"
>Weakened, they still fight the big bad, who is now an actual challenge since they got pasted earlier
>Rest of the team gets picked off and have to return, with just Sonic left
>He gets to the inner sanctum
>Long corridor to the entrance, lights off
>Surge lights up at the end of it like Vader in Rogue One
>He goes up to her
>She punches him back to the entrance
>He gets up and tries again
>She repeats
>So does he
>Each time, the look of rage is replaced with tears
>Sonic's body gives out, but he's still trying
>"Why don't you just kill me, then?"
>She breaks down, holds him, and explains that she's not trying to kill him, she's trying to save him.
>Reveals the big bad was responsible for giving her the powers she has in some capacity (assistant to Robotnik or a soft-retcon)
>It wasn't pleasant for her. At. All.
>She's trying to keep him from being caught and captured.
>Sonic asks why she cares, considering their past.
>He showed her a new life where she didn't have to be angry all the time, and this was her way of trying to protect him.
>TBC...
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>>147150080
Don't worry, by 2027 I'm sure we'll be on the Neo Restoration arc.
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>>147147868
Shadow: Faker ships suck.
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>>147149917
There’s a reason why he does this and it’s one of the things that makes him more than “just a gag villain”. Eggman and Sonic since the very beginning have represented Technology/Authoritarianism vs Nature/Freedom respectively. Eggman could just surprise nuke Sonic while he is asleep at any time but that’s not what he is after. He… USUALLY wants to prove that he is correct to Sonic and to get him to break. Anyone else? Fair game to go and absolutely destroy them.
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>>147150151
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>>147148456
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>>147148714
Shadow: That blue hedgehog fool is too unfocused in the matters of romance
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>>147149749
It doesn't matter if he's a gag villain or not cause the games don't call attention to Sonic sparing him. For all we know he's just hard to kill, being famous for building a the most modular series of escape pods ever. Escaping is like his gimmick.
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>>147148803
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>>147149554
Shadow: Humans are so weird.
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>>147149839
It's all in the execution, dude. Anybody can say whatever and it comes off horrible as fuck, but will be executed in an E for Everyone way with everyone treating it like its no big deal. Tone is key.
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>>147149973
>also yeah really what killed surgamy because the fans of it are such schizos. Also biting surge is funny I feel it's not even vindictive either her instincts to kill him or just her idea of kissing.
Yeah the biting is cute, and seeing Mobians act like their animals is nice.
The really funny thing is Surge isn't even a Hedgehog Tenrec, she's a streaked low land Tenrec. Which means she's not hedgehog-like, instead she should be comfortable around water and be able to stridulate, i.e make by rubbing her quills together.

>>147150003
He just uploaded another piece. Seems a but topical as well.
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>>147150091
>Sonic tells her that he's his own biggest health issue, and tries to get up again, failing and falling into her arms again.
>She comes to the realization that he's not going to stop.
>He tells her she doesn't have to be afraid of the big bad any more; not to let fear control her.
>She's not alone anymore
>Electricity sparking everywhere suddenly
>She goes from teary eyed, to angry-faced, then opens her eyes
>Warns him that if he dies, she's bringing him back so she can kill him herself
>Mouth to mouth joke
>Covered by viewing angle kiss, with the electronics in the hallway all exploding from overcharge
>Big Bad's sanctum door explodes inwards
>Standing alongside Surge, Sonic's got some new, toyetic form with lightning bolts everywhere.
>Big bad briefly acknowledges Sonic, then has an 'ah, we meet again' spiel when he sees Surge
>He taunts and scares the fuck out of her with footage of her getting tortured/experimented on
>She's almost about to back away in panic/shock
>Stops. Or rather stopped
>Sonic's holding her hand
>You're not alone anymore, he says with a cool new voice or somesuch
>She resolves, says she won't be ruled by fear
>Proceed to kick the shit out of the big bad after a climactic fight.
>Big Bad's crawling away
>Gets hand stomped by surge as he reaches for a gun or detonator, etc.
>He's lifted up by his collar
>Cut to close-up of his eyes, reflecting Surge's royally pissed off face
>He's scared of her now
>She lets him go, but hits the self-destruct on the base
>She repeats back some line he gave her during the torture for pathos
>Sonic and Surge leave together
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>>147150188
You're posting cringe, bro.
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>self inserting sh*dowfag is here
Pot calling the kettle black
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>>147149206
They didn’t abandon him. They call him up whenever it is possible, leave him in the care of his grandfather and drop all obligations when he gets sick. Oh poor billionaire Chris, his parents work themselves to the bone so that he can live in his lavish mansion, he’s so neglected!
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>>147149599
What was the point of the metal virus?
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>>147150367

Recycling the original plot for issue 300 of Archie, where it was meant to be Eggman trying to recreate the roboticization process.
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>>147150379
So that's the answer to >>147149599 and >>147149591 as well?
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>Imagine it's Across the Spiderverse but instead it's the Sonicverse.
>The Miguel O'Hara Sonic is running after Shadow the Hedgehog for breaking rules of the multiverse.
>"All stations! Stop what you are doing, and stop that hedgehog!"
>All of the alternate Sonics are confused and start pointing at each other.
>"NO! Shadow! The BLAAAAACK ONE!"
>Blue on Black Hedgehog action commences
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>>147144863
>archieshit
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>>147149793
Eggman has never been a pure joke in the mainline games. Even his most pathetic showing in Colors he still wants to mind control the planet and Sonic starts taking him seriously during Astroid Coaster and the final boss.
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>>147144840
Lanolin is the definition of
>sorry that I have great tits and correct opinions
Deal with it
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>>147150461
What has she done right?
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>>147150475
Everything
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>>147150479
Like....?
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>>147150492
What, did you not read the comic?
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>>147150475
>>147150492
Just ignore the tard
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>>147150506
Have you? When has she ever contributed positively?
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>>147150566
she beat up that retard whisper for not respecting her authoritah
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>>147150576
Cartman, why are you shitposting on a Sonic thread right now?
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>>147150328
But the point is that they don’t spend any time with him. They’re never there for him when he wants them around, and it’s been like that for a long as he could remember. Grandparents, money, and servants aren’t acceptable replacements for parents in a child’s formative years.
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>>147150393
That’s retarded. First off, Spider-Verse sucks ass, and secondly, the Zone Cops are already a thing in Archie.
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>>147150328
Why do they need to work themselves to the bone when they’re already wealthy billionaires?
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>>147150965
Suck it up bitch boy. Every kid would love to have Chris’s upbringing.
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>>147151010
Income tax
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>>147150965
Did Chris ever talk to his parents about it in show? Feels like something he should have brought up. Funny think I do remember is, he decided to follow in his granddad's footsteps and became a scientist.
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>>147144840
>What the fuck is the point of this character?
To create conflict? It's crystal clear to me what purpose she serves in this story. This isn't even the first time Sonic and Friends® have had to deal with people backseat driving. If wasn't isn't Sally it was King Acorn or the council or some other resistance person winging about Sonic's devil-may-care ways. At least Lanolin has a cool design.
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>>147151118
What conflict? Every character immediately forgives her.
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>>147151084
I always thought that Chris was some kind of alternate or past version of Eggman. Too many things lined up for it not to be the case. From the similar color scheme, to his proclivity towards Science as an adult, to even Gerald, Maria, and Shadow being from his world, with Shadow even associating him with Maria. Even his obsession with Sonic seemed off.
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>>147151134
You weren’t being good enough, you worthless piece of shit.
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>>147151029
Every kid would love to be separated from their parents for months?
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>>147151045
Which billionaires in the US have historically paid SO MUCH of since the '80s...
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>>147151223
The Thorndykes live in the United Federation. Completely different country.
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>>147145006
lanolin the sheep, or "lanny," as she liked to be called. taught us that a woman can triumph over adversity.
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>>147150566
In every interaction?
Seriously, what point of "Every Single Thing Lanolin Did Was Right and Just" are you not getting
The entirety of Lanolin is perfect.
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>>147151243
>No poverty anywhere; the only actual threats are exterior

You make a good point, actually. Carry on.
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>>147149591
The Restoration was planned to be destroyed, hence the HQ being burnt down, by Evan, but Ian didn't want that, hence the story right after and the Tailstube (both written by him) going out of their way to establish the Restoration is fine
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>>147151554
Having two writers is starting to become more trouble than it’s worth.
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>>147151594
the solution is ian should stop having a say in shit
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>>147150215
Heh nice cute as hell
>>147150215
I mean now that makes me wonder if mobians do animal stuff like hibernate, or mark territories, build nest???

Huh weird never caught on to that, also mobians being a bit feral sounds fun and could make interesting s..tuff
>>147150091
>>147150220
Nice anon, not a bad idea and kind of wholesome esque
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>>147151679
> i.e make sounds by rubbing her quills together.
No idea how I missed the word sounds, that's my punishment for typing too fast.
I don't think they would hibernate, except in extreme climates. Although they would probably suffer from Seasonal Effective Disorder like some humans do, neither would I think they build nests or mark territories as they can communicate ownership in otherways. But I do think Mobians should probably act a little bit more like their respective species.
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Literally just a shameless ripoff of the character of Lanolin the Sheep from Garfield and Friends.
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>>147151594
The comic has more than two writers. Ian’s the only writer who’s pulling a Penders and just ignoring or downplaying everything that Evan wrote.
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>>147151554
Pathetic. I'm with Evan with this one, Forces has been over for years, we gotta burn all things related to that
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>>147145441
This reminds me Quaver did art of Lanolin being the reincarnation of Sally.
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>>147145408
If I had a nickel for every time I wanted to fuck a bitchy sheep girl named "Lanolin", I'd have two nickels. Which isn't a lot, but it's weird that it happened twice.
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>>147145657
the classic era have 3 but you can't use classic characters for the mainline comic
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>>147152072
Hmmmmm sounds good actually, and yeah makes sense but like the respective species thing though idk what they'd do that differently.

Oh yeah the reverse au, but wouldn't this surge be a terrible hero jobbing to the super villain known as sonic the edgehog
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>>147152254
Ian's gotta have his Knothole and Freedom Fighters expies, because he can't let Archie go.
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>>147152354
Yeah I don't like them swapped as much since fail girls are better as villains the heroes.
>Sonic the edgehog
LOL, although that does remind me, Quaver's first comic on twitter was about evil Sonic cucking her with Tangle and Rouge.
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>>147144840
She has big tiddies
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>>147144840
But how big is her bush?
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>>147144840
sexo
thats it thats the post
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>>147152416
Yeah plus her failing means many die a lot, but maybe she gets help from alt eggman.
>>147152416
Wait where is that never seen it lol
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Years later and Restoration haters still can't get over it being a thing and apart of the lore. A sad sight everytime. I hope it stays forever, and it, along with GUN get into conflicts over what is the right way to save the world.
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>>147152529
Archiefag...
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>>147149128
GET KEKED KIT
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>>147151134
>abandoned shota
:,(
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>>147150994
>Anon doesn’t know the meme
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>>147149374
>Mimic has gone on the run... again
Okay? So he can come back at a later point. That's one villain kept.

>Clutch amounted to nothing and is now under Eggman's thumb
So you're saying they can still use him?
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>>147152846
The next arc is Clutch on the run and everyone hunting him down.
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>>147152274
I'm not even going to go into why I don't agree with this/just continues everyone saying this or this is trying to fit into a Sally shaped hole inaccurately
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Sonic should be written like Dragon Ball and One Piece.
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>>147152996

Early, gag manga Dragon Ball? Yes.
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>>147152996
What does that even mean?
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>>147152996
Sonic should be written like The Sopranos.
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>>147144840
Damn, those arms are gangly.
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>>147153030
Villain of the week with infinitely upward sliding power creep and beloved by Mexicans
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>>147152523
It's on Quaver's "main" i.e non-nsfw twitter, just go to the media tab and keep scrolling till you hit the bottom.
Also Manik from Sonic Underground appears as Amy's new love interest for some reason.
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>>147151297
Fuck off with your self insert, Evan.
No one likes her
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>>147153422
Yes, both for Surge love and Surge abuse.
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>>147153489
Surge abuse is surge love
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>>147153422
Yep! You’re in the right place!
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>>147149528
Yessss lmaoooo

I also imagine that at some point she tries to fight him again but can’t bring herself to do it anymore and ends up a crying mess.
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Starline was a shit character and I'm sick of pretending otherwise.
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>>147144863
Sally and Lanolin are literally nothing alike you retard.
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>t. Surge
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Guys, I'm sorry to say but Tangle solos.
The BEST character in IDW.
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>>147154037
So cute, and her personality is so contagious. You also know that she is definitely CRAZY in bed
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>>147146085
>I think Gerald would be better off dead, but I want to see this as a what if story for a comic or whatever.
it's kind of what they did in the movie
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>>147146302
>>147148833

Built for Jackal Mobian Men.
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>>147154037
These three would make a great trio
Why are they holding out on us
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>>147144840
man i was about to say "is there any buttfuckin smutt of this slut yet" but the stripes on her arms make me think of the monsters from...uh, ahhhh, monsters. oblina

but while i googled oblina to make sure i had the right name i saw some cute art so im gonna check and see if theres smutt anyways, for both
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>>147154372
fug, probably helps if i add the picture i was intending to post
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>>147154372
>is there any buttfuckin smutt of this slut yet

Tons.
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>>147153998
Heh nice, posted it with the og part as well, above.
>>147154313
Jackal???
>>147154357
Because lanolin said silver can't anon
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>>147154037
She's good when she's not hanging around Whisper.
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>>147154595
She should hang around with me honestly. Or at the very least, Sonic more, I think the two could use some more team ups.
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only the scruffiest and toughest of fuzzy bois are what Tangle wants.
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If Ian had any sense, he'd drop the feminism crap and just make Lanolin a bombshell and make some money off of it. Appeal to the dudes, man, women aren't buying this stuff.
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>>147154655
Ew would be better to just be infinite
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>>147154827
It's just a shame IDW didn't capitalize on that Jackal gang and just made them a cool faction. A huge, missed opportunity I'd say. Doesn't have to be just Infinite and these DLC goons. People have said this time and time again, lots of missed potential in this comic run. It's borderline tragic, man.
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>>147154852
theyre dead
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>>147154852
Shadow killed them.
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>>147155220
>>147155232
Doesn't mean there can't be other clans of them with different colored fur or somethin'. I mean come on now, we can have a team of baddies that could rival Sonic and his pals.
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>>147154852
They are tainted by infinite, though I am shocked idw tried to fix zavok but not the character their lore is most based on. Infinite you'd think they'd try to bring him back and make him better but guess even they know he's a dumpster fire
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>>147155374
If the writers were competent and threw their feminism aside so they could focus on, you know, writing fictional content, I'm sure they'd be able to write a cool story about either him or a brother of his, or another competent Jackal Merc that could pose a challenge. We've yet to see any competent male characters added to this comic continuity.
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>>147155404
I mean all the villians are males and with surge's turn all the females are heroes.

I feel like starline was pretty good, and they made me actually like zavok. But rough and tumble are goons but fun but not to be taken seriously, and clutch sucks I'll give you that. I think they could do it if they focus up and gave it to whoever wrote scrapnik their last truly great arc in my opinion.
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Was is likable personality wise about Lanolin
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>>147152968
People want their favorite chipmunk back, kind of like how there are people who ship Elias and Surge.
Personally, I blame Rediscovered Frontiers. But more seriously they share the vague approximation of a similar outline so people will hallucinate what they want.
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>>147145595
>Sonic Adventure 1 and 2's writing worked because it spread itself out over different characters and perspectives.

Why are we at a point where people believe Flynn's and SA2 writing isn't the same fucking thing. I don't know I just find it dumb how people complain all the time about how Ian overreferences stuff or attempts drama, when SA2 is basically a bundle of a bunch of shit the writer got from his favourite anime that just so happens to be a cheesy space melodrama that's like Titanic in Space but in his fanfic he made the MC be an anthropomorphic Vegeta. All of this from a franchise about a blue hedgehog trying to outdo Teddy Roosevelt. The jump in tone from SA1 to SA2 was and still is insane to me, Chaos and the plot from SA1 made sense in the whole scope of the Sonic franchise (especially with the enviromental part, the echidna tribe's punishment for greed, the fact the Final Boss is literally a flood monster in an urban setting); SA2 said fuck that, went overly-shonen and to this day the Sonic franchise kind of suffers from everything being a bit too much.
I like Shadow, but pretending like SA2 and his plot isn't the swerve that caused all of the Sonic plots to be convoluted and stupid in a way that SEGA then actively tried to stay away from?
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>>147156744
It's so superficial since anyone that actually knows or likes Sally is aware of how different they are as characters. Hell I think people who dislike Sally can do to be more accurate on it then just saying she and Lanolin are the same since it's disingenuous.
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>>147152529
It's boring and literally does nothing but expand on a setting the games already abandoned. Why would you NOT dislike it? It offers nothing, at the cost of stopping us from exploring new ideas.
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>>147156744
>Rediscovered Frontiers
What’s bad about it?
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>>147156986
They literally doxed the guy who made this.
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>>147156946
The spacebattles thread has a lot of people on the Lanolin=Sally train.
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>>147157003
Then they’re retarded.
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>>147156994
And it turned out her was getting more pussy than all of them
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Do you forgive her after this
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>>147156994
Wait, really? Tf?
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>>147157253

No. Have her commit to the bit and justify her actions as a leader instead of going “uwu I’m sowwy” and perpetuating the eternal status quo of Nothing Ever Happens(tm)
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>>147157277
Yeah. It just happened this months. Despite the comic being 2 years old, IDWfags were so enraged that they doxed and harassed the artist behind it. Really mature behavior to basic criticism.
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>>147157253
What is she apologizing for?
>You see, some of the readers -
No, why is she apologizing for within the context of the story? They got a new recruit, there was some fist fighting over some misunderstandings, they start working as security to the racing events, Sonic was disqualified for reckless behavior, hooligan named Phantom Rider starts disrupting the event, Lanolin almost causes a major accident trying to apprehend the hooligan, the hooligan knocks out the new recruit and Lanolin, the hooligan turns out to be Sonic, both of Lanolin's team mates knew this and didn't tell her, the recruit out of nowhere turns into Mimic. Lanolin apologizes.

This doesn't read like Lanolin owns up for fucking up. It reads like she realizes she is the only one being kept in the dark because nobody trusts or likes her.
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>>147155374
Sonic Team did bring Infinite back for their 2023 calendar story, along with the phantom ruby replica.

The real reason why they couldn't expand upon pre-existing lore and characters is because that required approval and collaboration from the Japanese Staff themselves.
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>>147157605
Because she’s done nothing but be a cunt for the entire time she’s been promoted to leader, and was such a bad leader that nobody likes or trusts her.
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>>147154595
>Make best girl
>Make her lesbian
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>>147157253
No. She needs to apologize to Silver too.
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>>147154824
Just make her have PTSD or something and have her go on antidepressants. Then she can be a bubbly bimbo sweetheart with good organizational skills. Instant popularity, guaranteed increase in sales, improved porn output. Literally everyone wins.
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>>147145490
>describes nearly every single relevant animal
Sorry people aren't drawing some obscure fucking fish anthros bro. Aesthetics matter and anyone says otherwise is a retard. So the most aesthetic animals get drawn. Obviously the most popular furry animals are also going to be the most popular animal.
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>>147157253
What was the point of all this? This comic doesn't need more ineffectual amicable allies to fill group shots. It has plenty already.
Building up her tumbling down bit by bit as she committed to her mistakes at least had momentum. The drama behind her putting trust into Mimic thinking he was one of the only people on her side was interesting. Now it's all gone.
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>>147152147
Wait does she literally have the same name? lol
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>>147156994
Reminder to never get close to people or have any personal information on your art account, kings. Take the advice and paranoia and precautions that good kemoshota artists do.

Because criticizing people online is as bad as murdering and raping people IRL, now. Anything will get fags trying to doxx you.
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>>147158186
Lanolin is a fatty substance extracted from sheep's wool. It's mainly used as a base for various slaves and ointments. In all honesty it's not a terribly original name for a sheep character.

You know, with that in mind I think they should have made her a grouchy Nurse Ratchet type medic instead of a twatty upwards-failing girlboss.
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>>147158284
Yeah but it's a terribly similar set of traits that make it hard to not see her as a direct rip-off.
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>>147154372
>there any buttfuckin smutt of this slut yet

Why is buttfuckin or slamming her in the butt or other phrases using butt so much hotter and vulgar then saying anal?
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This guy gives me such strange feelings in my heart. I'm not sure if I want to save him, fear him, see him as a brother, kiss him on the mouth, marry him, or have his children.

I don't know why I feel this way towards him. It's never been like this before. He's just... cute and cool to me. I wish I could find a guy in real life like him
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>>147158347
Nine is a better brat.
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>>147158347
Gaaaay
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>>147158330
Because any girl will let you have intercourse with her, but only a girl that really loves you will let you jackhammer her dumper until you blast hot man gravy up her shit pipe.
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>>147158347

You like that with Tails too?
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>>147146302
God DAMN those are some nice tits
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>>147158471
Honestly no. I had a mild crush on tails as a 10 year old kid but I grew out of it. I don't really feel anything towards him anymore.
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>>147158535

Well, good luck getting Kit away from Surge.
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>>147158422
It's not the act. It's the term I'm getting at.

Buttfuck that slut. Sounds way hotter and vulgar then anal
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>>147144840
These threads are almost making me interested in comicslop again
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>>147157611
Huh good to know I suppose, really is weird but eh best to just not touch it if no need to ya know.
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>>147155232
Anyone else find it weird how characters have straight up body counts in Forces? Like, Sonic Team goes out of their way to say that Eggman has never actually killed anyone canonically, only for them to turn around and have him wipe out entire armies with Infinite. I guess you can excuse that with Infinite just projecting holograms and therefore not really hurting people, but it's clear the intent to portray Eggman as uncharacteristically bloodthirsty was there.

Meanwhile Shadow just straight up murders people in cold blood, you can't even excuse it here. Before it was only implied as a possibility in Shadow 05, but it was clear he chose the hero route canonically and only shot down aliens. Here he just kills an entire group of (animal) people and it's swiftly ignored.

It really feels like Sonic Team wanted to have their cake and eat it too with Forces, wanting to be edgy to appeal to that coud while not really committing to it. Leaving a mess of implications that can't really be swept under the rug because so much of the modern era is tied to this stupid, poorly written game like a ball and chain.
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>>147159434
They should have committed and written a T rated story. But sega doesn't want to take any commitments with their series so you get what has plagued sonic since SA1: things happen and don't get accounted for later on. Everything contradicts each other and comes across as quarter-assed and half-complete
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>>147152529
>lets keep this thing that is directly connected to one of the worst games of the franchise
Nah
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>>147154037
What even is her character? She's a nothing burger, just say you like her design and want to fuck her instead of pretending she has any actual worth.
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>>147152529
I don't understand posts like this.
Just because they keep doing something everyone hates doesn't mean everyone will stop hating it. It has the opposite effect most of the time.
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>>147159783

Just like Silver.
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>>147159434
Forces being canon at all is very unfortunate both for consistency and tone. But these comics are obsessed with using it as framework.
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>>147159821
If you notice they keep him out from most games and tv shows, and that's for a good reason.
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>>147156893
>Why are we at a point where people believe Flynn's and SA2 writing isn't the same fucking thing.
As much as I agree with your overall point, they really aren't the same thing. Say what you will about SA2, but for better and for worse it tries to be its own thing, to an aggressive degree. It never held the past to a near religious reverence like how Ian ironically does with SA2 and Archie. It was never trying to "fix" Sonic while simultaneously breaking the characterization of nearly everyone.
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>>147159871

May the same hold true for anything from Forces.
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>>147159434
Reminder thanks to Flynn, he murders these people AFTER promising Maria (again) to be kinder. Because shadow gens takes place before Forces and all these other projects where he's an unredeemable ass.
Thanks for nothing. Again.
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whats this shit about Flynn and Stanley being at odds? someone TLDR it.
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>>147159932
There's no big public drama about it, you can just tell by obsessively following the comments of writers how despite working together nominally, they clearly disagree with how to approach things. Evan destroys the Restoration, Ian establishes it's fine. Ian introduces Surge as an unredeemable villain, Evan has Surge a crying victim railroaded into redemption. Danny only got to write a handful of stories but by seeing him comment in the comic, it becomes clear he's not a fan of a lot of what it's done lately, and so on.
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>>147158805
Yeah, that was literally the point I was making.
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>>147159800
she's a sonic-type (loves adventure and her friends) who can be more green than the "all-games-are-canon" sonic.its to the series' benefit to have a sonic type character who does have to be Sonic The Hedgehog with all the strong sega oversight that comes with.

therefore she can be part of a team, actually fuck up big time, and get in over her head without it being the whole focus of the issue. i wasnt that hot on her at first but as a part of the comics secondary ensemble i think shes freed sonic up to do bigger things while she hangs out with the resistance and builds up that whole side of the comic. and her hand tail is fun.

>>147157951
that's why shes best girl
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Post more cute images of Surge.
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>>147160212
surge rules 1) because look at her and 2) she most directly fights sonic on the overarching storyline of the whole book: why let the villains off easy?

theyre going to hurt people and make weapons that will eventually end up aimed at sonic and his friends. surge (and kit) are both of those rolled up into one.

of course she's eventually going to end up getting some kind of redemption arc, but i really hope we get to see more of her bringing that question to the forefront. though with the annual it looks like kits going to get some time in the spotlight before that happens at least.
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Right is fleetway.
OVA/90s would just mock and act tired before doing some awesome look acrobatics.
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Okay, how would YOU rewrite IDW? Sega decides to hire you and give you FULL creative freedom up to a T-rating. i.e. no sex or brutal torture scenes. You're free from all other mandates.

Normal mode: All the IDW characters must still be introduced at some point
Hard mode: the lesbians must stay and must be heroes
Nightmare mode: sonic's OOC personality must stay.

I'm interested in seeing how you could fix it.
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>>147160457

Ditch the Restoration. Spread the cast out instead of keeping them all in once place.
Some new villains.
Whisper is straight.

Everything else is fine.
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>>147160457
>Okay, how would YOU rewrite IDW? Sega decides to hire you and give you FULL creative freedom up to a T-rating. i.e. no sex or brutal torture scenes. You're free from all other mandates.
Plenty of fanservice of all the female OCs.
Amy as a yandere stalker. (I hate Ian Flynn's take on Amy Rose.)
Actually drama and stakes, characters actually die. (Unlike just Starline's death.)
No filler arcs. (Looking at you, recent racing arc.)
Add humans.
Introduce stuff from the recent games like Sage.
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>>147145354
Jesus, these colors are awful. Nothing but unshaded pastels.
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>>147160457
In order for me to do that, I would have to go back further and rewrite Forces… which is something I’m actually in the process of doing right now.
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Do you think Evan bring a model tracer is a bad thing?
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>>147160670
She should have never mentioned it.
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>>147160285
>>147160212
Miss that one anon that pitched feminized surge/surge forced in cute dresses
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>>147160670
No, retards just don't understand that this shit is common when you're working on deadlines. People don't understand how common it is for people to model environments and whatnot in 3d, pose them, and trace them in order to speed up the process.
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>>147160670
I'm an artist.
I love sonic, SA2 was my first game.

my sonic looks like shit.
I understand completely. His head fucking owns me.
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>>147160670
I don't have any moral objections to it, so long as it's models she made herself or provided by Sega themselves. My issue with it however is how it ends up making the final product look stiff and unexpressive, a cardinal sin for Sonic of all franchises. It doesn't do the designs and inherent cartoonish nature of the series justice. Every issue with the animation the games have is exasperated here. Doesn't help how it tends to lead to things like Sonic's face looking fucked up in places, because that's not how his design was made to be approached.

Granted this isn't a particularly unique issue with IDW. Fleetway Sonic did similar shit, obviously tracing reference material to the point where it looked incredibly janky in a lot of areas. Really it comes down to most people not having a good grasp on how these designs work, relying on tracing as a crutch.
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>>147146404
A fucking girl boss princess who loves her friend?
sally sounds more of a Mary Sue. let me fucking guess, she marries sonic?
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>>147161172

How did you know?
.....
Well, pre reboot.
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>>147161209
>Well, pre reboot.
Yeah, then the reboot made her lesbians with Nicole. For some reason.
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>>147161220
She couldn't be with Sonic anymore, Sega mandate. So Ian...I dunno, did the next best thing?
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>>147161209
its the most mary sue thing i can think of.

Having a character who hates to be a leader but has to do it then grows into a better person over time is more interesting than a princess who act as a girlboss killjoy and also marries him.

>>147161220
oh no thats might be worse LOL. rip
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>>147161249
Lesbians is not the next best thing, she should be be straight!
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I wonder what the next IDW-Sonic-Hate thread will use as an OP once someone makes another thread immediately following this one just like the last one.
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>>147160670
I think it’s lazy, and it looks like garbage.
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>>147161200
No.
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>>147161220
It’s because Ian keeps push his shitty fetish in everything.
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>>147161263
Lanolin isn’t going to grow or change because Ian and Evan suck.
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>>147161200
>>147161263
Sally never married Sonic in the mainline series, just in a non canon future timeline that took place in a hypothetical future.
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>>147144863
One of the biggest complaints is Lanolin doesn't have as much experience as the people she tries to lead, meanwhile Sally has pretty much been in the war as much as the others and leads them because she was raised to lead an entire nation.
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>>147161523
Ian was and is a diehard SonSal shipper though. If he had the chance you bet your ass he'd have done it.
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>>147145375
Sonic is like Eggman, he's too overpowered so you can only show brief clips of him throughout an arc or incapacitate him somehow until the end of an arc where he's at full strength. No, don't cite how every other show or comic had both characters show up constantly and made it work, those don't count.
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>>147145409
>Sonic would never listen to anyone without powers.
Chris Thorndyke from a show overseen directly by Sega themselves.
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>>147161609
Ian and Alleah literally were trying to turn Sally and Nicole into lesbian representation.
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>>147145536
Council was fun because they blitz through the political shit with "hey today we have decided to do something retarded" and the other characters would be like "NO THAT'S RETARDED WE WANT TO FIGHT AND GO ON ADVENTURES" and would proceed to fight and go on adventures
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>>147157003
Spacebattles is filled with insane retards, so that’s not saying much.
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>>147157047
>>147157069
>>147157083
How is it so hard to keep Sonic in character? Especially since this is supposed to be the mainline game Sonic. I wouldn’t mind it if it was its own thing like Fleetway, Archie, or the movies, but Sega saying that the comics are canon to the games completely fucks with how I see the comics.
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>>147145646
>rape is a joke lmao!
You know what, I'm with the woke on this one.
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>>147151134
>>147151207
Chuck even says on the episode where Chris’ parents come to visit that it’s a miracle for them to visit him at the same time.
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>>147161743
Ever think that maybe you had it wring all along and that he IS in character in the comic?
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>>147146584
>LOATHES leading others
Because they're all stupider and less experienced than her.
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>>147161791
No. Also, minor spelling mistake. I win.
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>>147161809
She has more experience than Whisper and Silver? And she’s smarter than them when she was retarded enough to believe Mimic?
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>>147146842
She learned her lesson, what more do you want?
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>>147147729
Robots are such cucks.
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>>147148380
Way better art.
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>>147161830
I want her to go away.
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>>147161470
Wasted potential, practically written out already hopefully pulls an Ashoka. Time and good writing
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>>147149079
It's just Marvel for kids.
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>>147161880
Human teeth and proportions was wayy hotter! I want to be scared when aroused!
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Lanolin is made for Welshmen.
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>>147149817
>he goes full hardcore
Sexually
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>>147161830
>She learned her lesson, what more do you want?
Her facing actual consequences for her actions.
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>>147160570
>Amy as a yandere stalker.
She was never that. Play the games.
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>>147161969
What living in a country that values punishment over rehabilitation and has privately owned prisons does to a motherfucker.
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>>147161984
>t. Ian Flynn
I'm slightly exaggerating, but I prefer crazy head over heels for Sonic Amy.
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>>147161988
"Consequences" as in stepping down from leadership of the Diamond Cutters and overall active duty. She's clearly not suited to lead.
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>>147161830
To fuck off.
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>>147160457
This is what I'd do with IDW.
>Just these three going on a world tour having adventures together.
>No melodrama, but high octane action.
>SoL moments here and there but not the Tumblr SU kind. Just breathers for all the cool stuff.
>Ship teasing between Sonic and Amy of course.
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>>147162092
So basically AOSTH-style continuity between stories.

Yeah, I can jive with that.
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>>147162033
It's better to have someone like her that has now learned her lesson and will take things more seriously and apply herself better going forward. Again, your society's fault for believing in instant and prolonged punishment over second chances.
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>>147162232
>It's better to have someone like her that has now learned her lesson and will take things more seriously and apply herself better going forward
Or how about we move the focus back to the Sonic characters and have them go on fun and action packed adventures?
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>>147162232
I don't think you understand escapism.
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>>147162282
>escapism is when I think a character should be dumped immediately after making a mistake
I guess you hate Sonic after he freed the Zeti and trusted Eggman over Tails in Lost World and you never want him in a game again.
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>>147162294
I actually did. Wretched awful game.

But Sonic had better times before that, Lanolin didn't. I'm not here for Lanolin.
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>>147162294
Nobody wins by bringing up Sonic Lost World. Everybody was a fucking idiot in that game.
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>>147162092
How bout we just do what Fleetway did? Multiple stories in a single issue.
>Sonic, Tails and Amy going on adventures
>Knuckles' tresure hunter adventures on Angel Island
>Shadow doing dark anti-hero shit
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>>147162512
there's barely enough pages for one story, nothing would ever get done
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>>147162512
>why don't we include everything and please no one?
This mentality led to Forces.
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>>147162512
not in this economy, I afraid.
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>>147162512
Or just bring back Sonic Universe.
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>>147162347
It's written about as well as IDW and is just as canon if not more so it counts.
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migrate, idw whiners
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>>147161791
No, it's 100 percent Ian writing him poorly. These issues are exclusive to his writing.
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>>147162232
Except she has repeatedly fucked up and learned nothing from it, she goes right back to being a wretched bitch. She CAN'T learn, so there's no reason to keep her in charge.



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