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Rough TRAP in the Raw! edition.

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Answering Anon from last thread:
https://nhentai.net/g/290834/
https://nhentai.net/g/336389/
https://nhentai.to/g/408208
https://nhentai.net/g/268462/
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would you consider a story from the perspective of someone observing someone else who had been tg/tf'd, but without initially knowing that this was the case, to be a tg/tf story? what would be some 'tells' an author could use, either for the audience or for the character, to indicate this type of ironic situation?
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>>11116669
Are you saying they see them transform, but reality alters and they are unaware, or they were transformed prior and are just seeing someone struggle?

If the latter, they just seem really uncomfortable for whatever reason and sort of suck at being a girl.

As for the former, I have never seen that and now I sort of want to, if done well.
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>>11116680
I was imagining the latter and personally wouldn't be able to write the former. I don't like writing perspectives that aren't contiguous with themselves, so to speak. I think I have read some stories that work in that kind of unaware way, though usually it's internally written. most reality shift style stories come to mind, and personally it always really bothers me when the author writes something like 'and looking down, his big breasts were totally normal and masculine'
I feel like simply writing a character as being uncomfortable and awkward about femininity would be insufficient on its own, though maybe it would be enough as long as there were one or two plausibly-deniable statements, most likely in dialogue that the perspective character could misinterpret. would reading that provide the kind of satisfaction and buzzing in the skin that good tg/tf stories provide, though? if the majority of the story was otherwise not tg/tf related, except that an important but single character Had Been transformed? how often should a 'tell' moment occur for such a character? probably not every time that character had a scene, but one in three scenes? one in four?
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>>11116738
Not sure what you meant but I recommend checking out this story.
https://www.tgstorytime.com/viewstory.php?sid=7976

It plays well with mind and reality alterations, with different characters having different awareness and a bunch of them freaking out over the world a happening to them.
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>>11115709
I know an old idea I had was that the son of a magical girl is essentially chosen by whatever organization is behind magical girls (and guys, dudes normally become something along the lines of Tuxedo Mask, the MC’s dad was one of these but the MC doesn’t know) to inherit her wand and her familiar after her passing- when he uses it to transform he turns into a dead ringer of his mom at that age in that form, familiar explains that it’s because it still has her old mana and that if he keeps using it it’ll eventually use up all of the mana and he can start using his own with it. The MC keeps using it, but then starts noticing small changes when he turns back- longer hair, softer features, etc, it’s only when he starts growing breasts does he realize what’s happening to him, and he swears off using the wand and attempts to forgo his responsibilities. The twist was going to be that the magical council was attempting to turn the MC into a younger clone of his mom’s magical girl form because she was really good at her job and they wanted her back.
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I’m honestly getting pretty tired of these fantasy rps settings. I can’t be the only one
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fantasy RPGs are great, it's the execution that flops
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>>11117413
yeah the "uh oh I hit the trap in the dungeon and it turns me into a woman and I get raped" is boring at this point
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>>11117413
I have to agree with
>>11117575
I'm fine with it or at least I like the base concept more than others I can think of off the top of my head, but I do wish they'd vary it a little or something.
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>>11116605
Here's a thought: boyfriend and girlfriend turning into sisterwives in a harem pregnant with the same man's child
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>>11117830
this but it's an instant physical transformation and the girlfriend breaks faster than the former man does
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>>11117413
Fantasy settings have way more diversity of situations for the tsf to happen, as another anon said the problem is that it's always the same and boring.
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>>11117813
Fantasy settings are not bad in and of themselves. Fantasy rpg settings are almost always terrible, especially in manga. The kind of setting where dungeon delving is everyone's dream job, people talk of levels ranks and skill trees, guild quests have ranks from S to E, and all that video game jargon shit is baked into everyday life. That shit takes me right out of it and I'll either put it down or forget about it as soon a I finish.
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what are some good sites for finding more of this stuff? Looking for more beyond tgstorytime, tfgames and the usual manga sites
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DeviantArt, googling tg captions, reddit
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This, but it's an instant transformation from a trap in a fantasy RPG dungeon.
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I remember a doujin about a girl entering a club specifically to get attention and cause it to spiral out of control, so one of the members turned himself into a girl to directly compete for the club's attention in hopes of bringing it back. It also had a sequel where another club's leader was aware the club crusher was on her way to join them, so the other two members volunteer to turn into girls so they can train themselves to resist her charms. Inevitably this leads to the club crusher walking in on the leader fucking both of them at the same time and immediately slamming the door. I forgot to save it and can't for the life of me remember its name, anyone have it on hand?
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You guys have a thousand times better taste than the /aco/ TG thread
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>>11118282
https://exhentai.org/g/1511064/ca14c11bf4/
https://exhentai.org/g/1511069/866859c4ba/

Is it those two ?
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That's the one, thank you anon!
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Really wish we had more office worker TSF series, office romcoms are already a bit of a guilty pleasure for me for normal manga and guys still having to go to work as busty OLs and ending up having to wear certain business suits is hot
This was a good one albeit not translated
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>>11119659
I love the office setting a lot more than the others, mostly because the power difference is a lot more significant than in something like fantasy or school
Imagine going from a strong handsome CEO to the lowly secretary he used to harass
also I adore her design, I hope someone picks it up at some point
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>>11119850
I'm more of an AP kinda guy, so I much prefer the "I want to be more like mom/be an adult/whatever" and now they're stuck working a 9-5 as an OL
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>>11119868
another OL TSF idea I like is something like this, just turning a male employee into a OL

especially when it's some cold bureaucratic reasoning like:

"we don't want to hire a new person who's unproven, but the powers that be want more women, so we're going to have to make some of the men here into women for equality's sake™"
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That's Nahoyan's art. Not sure what the manga is, though.
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>>11119829
>transforming a person into used goods
for what reason?
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>>11120007
this one
https://mangadex.org/title/176d2f85-167b-4514-8909-32060da68922/vignette-witch-joshi-ka-no-mahou-to-isekai-seikatsu
3 chapters so far
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>>11119875
this guys shit is always so good. love TG and AR.
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>>11120060
Daily Life In TS School was recently fully translated, they might get picked up soon.
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>>11120137
I didn't enjoy reading Daily Life in TS School, I'm glad it's over already. I'm not really fond of the ever present "poof you are a girl" style of Nahoyan. Hopefully this new work is different but I'm not holding my breath.
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>>11120141
I don't mind that so much, the plot twist of secret experiment is what I disliked more about that series. Going by Kaneko Naoya's previous works it'll probably be the same sort of poof and all the swapped characters will stay swapped at the end. Also there's someone working on that and they've asked for others to help them if they're interested.
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>>11120045
To have a believable backstory or to remove awkward virgin sex when the time to use your new toy comes.
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>>11116605
dragon quest did irreperable damage to all fantasy related content
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>>11120141
It's poof you are a girl but isekai
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I am a fan of AP, as stated previously, and I also love brats being given what they fucking deserve.

Turn rich asshole kids into modest maids
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>start posting about OL TSF
>open up DA to see how many favs my recent post got
>notice CrownCosmo posted
>Orc OL TSF
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>>11120383
do the nice people get to be turned into girls who get taken care of by said former assholes?
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>>11119850
Speaking of power difference, chapter 1 of shikabanekamo's series was just that
https://nhentai.net/g/413401/75/
>Asshole boss becomes a woman, gets fucked by their subordinate, two end up becoming fuck buddies where the boss is still an bit abrasive at work but let's the subordinate fuck her at work.
Rest of the chapters have ditched the office worker part but still decent
Chapter 3 is about the less popular member of a YouTube channel duo getting gender swapped and becoming the more popular one as the two switch to porn videos
Chapter 4 is a guy who thinks women have it easier, becomes one and gets a job as a hostess.
Chapter 5 is about a military general getting gender swapped out and doing it one of their soldiers.
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>>11120439
All of a sudden I want to write a time travel tsf set in the Regency Era
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Anyone know what happen to totoyasu_tsp and their pixiv? They still on twitter.
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>>11120439
sure, why not?

the real question is should the rish asshole kids be forced to work for their equally terrible families so they learn to be nice to the servants?

Imagine being the youngest man in the family, abusing your power over the servants until the Butler has enough of your shit and turns you into the newest maid. You are then forced to deal with your entire family ordering you around all day and the older males of the family even making lewd comments at your expense. You are stuck like this for however long a Butler deems it necessary. Also, since the Butler is often in charge of all the servants, you get ordered around by him, too.
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>>11120664
Please do, I need more classy Victorian lady TG
>>11120713
for awhile at least until eventually learn humility then the others who treated you poorly also get turned into maids so that they can learn a lesson.
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>>11118766
>genderbent guy mogs natural girl in the bust department
Always a sensible chuckle to be had there.
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>>11120827
A classic, a staple, a direct assault on my dick
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>>11116605
A few threads back people were mentioning an archive of the stuff purged off of exhentai. I wasn't interested then, but there's a lot of stuff I just can't find anymore.
Anyone know where the archive is?
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>>11120401
So he does occasionally make something good, huh...
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>>11116742
>https://www.tgstorytime.com/viewstory.php?sid=7976
Really damn good story, thanks for sharing
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>>11121171
More like so he actually posts.

He keeps posting ideas but rarely draws them
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>>11120827
Genderbent guys' cup size is directly related to how big their dick was before.

>1.5-2.5in B
>2.5-3.5in C
>3.5-4.5in D
>4.5-5.5in DD/E
>5.5-6.5in DDD/F
>6.5-7.5in G
>7.5-8.5in H
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>>11121460
The idea that my tits would be huge is such a turn-on
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>>11121460
This scale escalates a lot faster than I expected it to. You'd have to be a total dicklet to not end up pretty huge.
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Being into a submissive girlfriend by your best bro.
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Anyone ever read this? Looks like a short TS manga about dudes stranded on an island, seems like it could be fun. couldn't find any raws online
https://comic.iowl.jp/titles/170308
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>>11121611
sauce?
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https://x.com/BimboAudino/status/1835449167889547599
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In real life, smoking is disgusting. It has so many gross side effects, makes you look worse, and obviously, it slowly kills you.
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>>11122334
With that said, smoking in fiction is actually really attractive for whatever reason, regardless of the setting.
Additional, in something like a body swap, where the character is now in a body addicted to it and can’t help but do so is incredibly satisfying.
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I'm looking for a TG hentai comic involving a guy shrine priest and his happy go lucky guy friend. A demon brainwashes the guy friend and turns him into a woman. The tg'ed guy friend then goes up to the shrine priest and starts kissing him, slowly turning the priest into a maiden and seemingly brainwashing him. The demon approaches and attempts to make the priest suck his dick, but the shrine maiden plays along until she slaps a talisman onto the dick, burning it and driving the demon off. The last page is the women looking into the camera asking to be changed back.

I'm pretty sure I got the link to this one from these threads where it was recommended as an example of a comic where the heroine does not immediately lose. Can anyone help me find source?
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>>11120569
>Chapter 4 is a guy who thinks women have it easier, becomes one and gets a job as a hostess.

Has there ever been a TSF story in which a man laments that women have it easier, is then turned into a woman as some kind of aesop lesson, only for him to realize that women (at least from the perspective of the story) do indeed have it easier and thus he is turned back into a man as the moral lesson backfires? It's one of the more meta TSF concepts out there so somebody must have done it at some point. Although temporary genderswaps seem to be less common now, unfortunately.

>>11119850
>mostly because the power difference is a lot more significant than in something like fantasy or school

I also like office lady themed genderswaps a lot, especially as I get older, but I don't think the power differential is unique to an office environment, especially compared to a school environment which can have a strict hierarchy of students and faculty, or an even more pronounced hierarchy seen in fantasy with nobility, peasants, various groups likes humans, elves, etc. I would say the appeal of office genderswap is on account of it being more grounded and relatable to people than a fantasy-world but that doesn't seem to capture the appeal of it. I suspect it's because office settings are decidedly less fantastical not just in terms of setting but tone as well (besides the obvious impossibility of genderswapping at all)

>>11119868
I could imagine a concept wherein a male student wishes for the independence and wealth that a career can provide, but is somehow made to become an office lady due to improper wording or some process otherwise outside of their control. Conflict could arise from them trying to remain connected to their old friend group, or getting saddled with the expenses and drudgery of the working world.
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Any good more obscure TG games?
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any good gender swap rpgmaker games out now. New ones?
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>>11122497
'I can't turn back into a man unless I defeat the four masters!' is probably my favorite one that isn't one of the big ones
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>>11122497
Booth Babe
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It's like how futa is always bigger. Genderswap girls are always bigger
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I'm the anon from this
>>11119868

I'm right now cooking up a greentext for an OL TSF. Teen makes a wish that turns him into an OL. Will post it later today.
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>>11122480
>Has there ever been a TSF story in which a man laments that women have it easier,

I'd like to see this in a game with an anxiety meter and have menu options removed if your anxiety gets too high.

Let me explain. Testosterone suppresses anxiety. So let's pretend all women have it easier (really only upper class and upper middle class women that are hot from developed nations have it easier) it does not feel like it to women because they have more anxiety. This also why they perceive that they are more likely to be victims of crime and injustice despite men being more likely to be victims of petty and violent crime and murder.

This is essential where the old saying that men are dumb and women are crazy comes from. Women act crazy due to their higher anxiety. Men act dumb because their anxiety meter doesn't tell them to worry. So they might drive 100 mph at night while drinking. There meter never goes into the red saying "hey now, let's slow down, we might die"

It could be fun to do something like bloodstained 8bit where you can swap between a man and a woman. The woman is more powerful because she is a goddess or succubus or something but you can only use her for so long due to the anxiety. Or maybe something like ramna where your gender changes events and conversation options.

For the sake of /d/ I'd argue that if you played your cards right and used the female form as much as possible while keeping your male mind you'd turn into a succubus or futa at end game.

I think creative are afraid to use this system because it would be seen as sexist but I think that can be overcome with good writers and doing more showing than telling. Show the woman in a panic, don't write a paragraph about women being inferior. Show the man making bad choices, don't tell the audience he is stupid.
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>>11122337
the more she smokes the more her tits grow.
>>11121611
>why i'm so soft and squish?
Hate it when girl says that. Makes me want to squish and squeeze them
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Anyone have or know how to get behind the paywall for this?
https://fantia.jp/posts/2445680
I've be subbed to this guy for years but financially can't anymore. This one seems to be about a dude getting turned into his girlfriend's twin 'sister' and them having sex.
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>>11122573
https://tfgames.site/?module=viewgame&id=1281
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>>11122864
>Guy willingly turns into some kind of super powered female youkai
>Comes into the new body with a power high upon becoming far more powerful than they were before
>High comes down and they are suddenly hit with these new feelings they're unprepared for, putting themselves in a vulnerable state of uncertainty in a precarious situation they put themselves into when they were still feeling unstoppable
Incredibly hot concept, I'd definitely read/play any kind of media that implements that
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>>11122573
When you say "gender swap", do you mean that there is another victim involved with the gender change and they swap this out?
I'm asking in case its specific word choice.

Also what kind of swap? Personality (internal gender), part (sex organs), roles (sissification / crossdressing), external experience (everyone else starts treating a man as the opposite gender for whatever reason),

Gender Bender is complex, thinking about it.

The most silly gender swap would be a reflection change involving two, which only affects someone's mirror image.

Anyway, what kind of 'swap' are you looking for?
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>>11122826
Speaking of futa, anyone know of any good futa on a genderbent former guy? Essentially just futa on female, but with genderbending.
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Anyone know the doujin where the MC is a boy who can turn into a bunny magical girl? Rabuyin bunny or some shit
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Could be cool.

Different choices would lead them into more male or female or demon brained. And that would impact game play.

Unfortunately I don't know if anyone would risk their rep on a game that incorporates women's anxiety and men's stupidity risk taking behavior into the gameplay.
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Abdominal pregnancy has a futa fucn a boy into a girl

Unfortunately there are a few pages with them underaged as kids
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>>11123485
I was always disappointed this one was a weird semi-living skinsuit thing, it ruined it for me and it'd have been 10/10 if it'd just been a generic magic transformation.
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>>11116669
>magic exists but it's like a pallet of gold bars, everyone knows they're real but very very few people actually see it in person, let alone use it
>two friends grow up
>one becomes a jock, the other becomes a twink, they're still friends
>jock guy has no idea twink is in love with him
>twink actually has a sorceress in the family, technically. she's ancient, something like his 7x great grandma.
>takes months to actually meet her, manages to get turned into a girl
>immediately jumps on jock's cock
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another idea
>guy uses magic artifact to make his sister have sex with him
>doesn't realize that the artifact is powered by 'maleness'
>he does manage to blow his load into his sister, but it's the last load he ever blows because his maleness is consumed and he turns into a girl
>his recently raped sister laughs at the instant justice
>sister takes her revenge several times over
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>>11123620
the ideal 'magical girl who is actually a boy but gradually transforming too often turns her into a girl for real' story will exist someday anon, trust. and/or write it yourself and be the change you want to see in the world I guess.
I'd write it but everytime I try to write a story lately I get bogged down in random details that don't matter instead of advancing the premise or characters and also I have a million other stories I want written more
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>>11123639
I probably could write one but I'm lazy.
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Jason looked at the pod containing his sister. Rather, the pod containing the living suit that his sister died in. The thing in the glass tube, it looked like Victoria, but Jason knew it was hollow inside. Her super suit, wherever she got it. Vanessa the Enchanter, killed just last week in a fight with shadow demons.

His fist hit the glass, vibrations in the fluid causing ripples on the surface of the skin inside. "Goddamnit Vicky." he sobbed. Fucking goddamnit.
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Jason is leaning against the pod. "Hey Vicky. It's been a year. Mom and dad can't see the door. Did you do something to it? I opened it for them once and they thought I was playing a joke on them. They just see a wall."

The suit doesn't answer. It never does but Jason feels better talking to it.
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>there is magic, but it has a gendered charge
>similar to how electricity has positive and negative charge, magic has male and female charge
>magical energy can be conjured from nothing, but an equal amount of the opposite gendered charge must be conjured at the same time
>some spells, like explosions, fire, projectiles, etc. require male magic
>others like healing and alchemy require female magic
>overexertion of gender of spell without enough spells of the opposite gender of spell result in an accumulation of magic in the caster's body, resulting in involuntary transformation and hypersexualization
>of course, these effects well documented and well understood, and in fact, forcing such a state on an opposing mage in combat has become a standard tactic
>it is not an uncommon sight to find a once-strong, defeated war mage stumbling back into camp in moaning in heat, giant cowlike tits bursting forth from woefully undersized robes, begging for some adequately masculine clerics to fuck the excess magic back down to nominal levels with ritualistic sex.
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>>11123798
I've thought about such a system for an rpgmaker game.

You'd gain magic by pacts with demons and other fantasy monsters. Unfortunately your character is a hot blooded idiot and rushes to make pacts with anyone. This results in pacts with female entities. By using their magic blessings their mana flows into the player and transforms them bit by bit.

Could be interesting. You'd want at least two strategies to beat the game, one where you only use combat arts and make pacts with male entities, another easier playthrough where you make pacts with everything and become a futa, and another where if its only with female entire you become a woman.

Would take time to make fun. You'd really have to take time to balance the game. The male only path would need to feel hard while the female or futa path would need to feel easier.

Also probably have a dating sim options in it with characters that will only join your party and date you if you have a specific body type. So if you are fire warriors with martial arts and male, the cinnamon bun captain of the kings army will not date you. Nor will he date you as a futa. Similar, a there would be a lesbian witch or nature spirit that refuses to date men.
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I'm assuming OL stands for office lady?
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>>11123946
that is usually what it stands for and not oppai loli yes
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>>11123797
this guy's art is pretty dece, shame he's mostly a furfag.
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>>11122480
An even more important question: what is the evolution path of the office lady? I assume it is as follows:

Intern -> Secretary -> Office Lady -> Business Lady -> Woman CEO

If we use this scheme, than we see that the Office Lady is in fact a mid-level archetype evolution, rather than a low-level one.

Obviously other progressions would be things like

1st Year Student -> 2nd Year Student -> 3rd Year Student -> Student Council President.

Maid -> ??? -> Head Maid (or Ojou-Sama)

Magical girl seems as though it would continuously get more powerful without becoming a new distinct type, as with the housewife. I assume that witches and female wizards are related but distinct forms with different unique traits.
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>>11123797
Source?
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>>11123636
Reminds me of one I had
>MC is in a band, is lead vocalist and guitarist
>Best friend is gay twink, leaning towards femboy, bassist
>Battle of the bands is coming up, MC is at best friend’s house for planning, insults all female band in front of best friend’s mother
>Mother is actually a witch, curses MC
>MC at first looks exactly the same, except now has vagina, however as time passes, changes progress
>Even with reality changes, has to relearn how to sing and play when voice and hands change
>Goes to best friend to complain one day, he snaps when the MC complains about being a girl
>Best friend is jealous of MC’s situation because he wants to be a girl
>However sons cannot inherit magic, and witch laws says you can’t use the sex change curse on your sons
>One route would have the MC learn they can do a ritual to share or transfer the curse to the best friend, either having them both be girls or the MC goes back to normal while best friend is a girl
>Also standard route of go back to normal, stay girl, stay girl become lesbian, stay girl become straight
, etc
Scott Pilgrim vs YTLAG, I guess
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>>11122497
CatTail's Ren'Py games.
>Flute of shame
>Morok
>Morok 2
>TF Casino (no longer on TFGS, but it's still on F95)
I wouldn't necessarily count them as "good" in a fappable sense, but they're by far the weirdest TG/TSF games I've played. Animated 3D models, uncanny music, Russian ESL dialogue. The first one has some FNAF-type gameplay to it.
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>>11122858

Part 1

>Be teen
>Think I deserve more freedom than I actually do
>Parents get me a debit card so I can buy breakfast n shit on my way to school
>Decide to use allowance to buy vidya instead because I want to play new shooter slop
>Parents pissed
>Take away my card and tell me I have to make myself breakfast until I learn my lesson
>While making breakfast, I whine, "I wish I had my own money so I wouldn't need an allowance"
>I feel woozy, stumble, and close my eyes
>When I open my eyes, I find myself in an unfamiliar kitchen
>I am making the exact same meal as before and panic when I notice the sausage is burning
>Rush to get it off the pan and onto a plate, notice how weird moving feels, and get annoyed with how my hair keeps getting in my face.
>With that over, I look down and notice that I have tits
>Panic resumes as I rush to wherever the hell this apartment's bathroom is
>In the mirror, I see a woman, probably late 20s, with somewhat messy hair and a chest larger than my mom's
>I don't want my food to get cold, so I go back to the kitchenette to eat while I think about what caused this
>Realize that it was probably the wish I made and that someone or something heard me
>Look through this woman's purse and find her wallet
>Plenty of cards under her name, a few membership cards for supermarkets, and, of course, her driver's license
>First Name: A feminine name that's eerily close to my name
>Last Name: My mother's maiden name
>Odd, she's a bit too old to be my cousin and too young to be my aunt, and I don't recognize this woman at all
>She looks like a member of my family, though, as if my older sister was like 7 or 8 years older
>Birthdate: Mine, but the year is 1998
>I'm a 26yo woman now
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>>11124662

Part 2

>Woman had a sleeveless blouse and pencil skirt laid out on her bed, so I at least knew what to wear
>Struggled to put on the bra, it took me ages to get it right
>Bra strap was irritating, but I figured I'd get used to it
>Opened up her phone
>Luckily, she had biometrics set up, so I didn't have to guess her password
>Figured that since she was old, she probably used Facebook
>I was right
>Read through her profile
>Fucker was damn near empty
>She works in an office building in downtown
>Is single
>Unrelated to anyone in my family, just coincidentally has my mother's maiden name
>She also went to the same High School as me, and I even see one of the few pictures on her Facebook is a post from 2016 with a picture of her in a cap and gown
>Look on the school's website, and she's in the group photo for the Class of 2016
>Look back at her Facebook page and through he friends to see if there's anyone I know on here
>My best friend's oldest brother, Robert, is friends with her and also works at the same job
>Assume that her shift starts at nine and look at the clock
>It's 0745
>Decide not to put on make-up because I don't have time to learn
>Look for the woman's car keys
>No dice
>I'm forced to use public transit... fuck
>Take the train to work because I will never take a bus
>Clock into work on time at 0857
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>>11124684

Part 3

>Sit down at the woman's cubicle
>A man I can only assume is her manager hands me a checklist
>"Yeah, so the powers that be want us to fill these out to prove we're doing our jobs. You already know what to do, but it still tells you."
>Thank him, and silently thank the wish-granter for throwing me a bone
>Print out packets that are 30-40 pages each, and only copy down a fraction of a percent of the info into a spreadsheet
>Print out the spreadsheets and send them to higher-ups via email
>Holy shit, each packet takes like 15 minutes tops
>Lunch time already
>Robert asks me out to lunch, why not?
>We eat at a small Chinese place
>He compliments me on how good I look and says that I should wear make-up less
>It makes me feel... odd, but I still thank him
>I veer the conversation to his family and ask him about his siblings
>He mentions his youngest brother and his friends
>He doesn't mention me at all, as if I never existed
>He asks me about my family, and I make up some bullshit about being an only child since I don't know shit about this woman's family
>We go back to work, and it's more of the same until 5 pm
>I end up taking the same train as Robert
>I try to ignore him as I look for my profiles on everything from Instagram to Danbooru
>I'm not on anything
>When I get back to the woman's apartment, I look through her documents, and they are all the same as mine, but with the dates and sex changed
>She grew up in my house, and her parents still live there
>Spend the whole night franticly looking up my parents and sister
>Absolutely nothing
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>>11123884

Coming back to this.

What kind of monsters or demons do you think the MC could make pacts with and what body part could they help change and why would they form pacts?

Like there would need to be plot reasons for the pacts.

1 I thought up was a dragon princess that doesn't want to be used as a breeder and she uses the pact to dump all her feminine essence to the MC and eventually this into a male hero and runs off. Mc would get fire and flight and a dragon summon from it.

Others could be like a bunny spirit that wants to lower her liter size and libido and dumps it to the MC and in exchange the MC gets healing magic, speed buff, leaping attack and a bunny outfit
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>>11124724
>Fertility/cow god that wants to be less voluptuous so she can be more graceful. MC gets a CHESUTO hydraulic milk push or higher strength and overalls

>Plain ol' female demon wants to be scarier so she dumps all of her femininity into the MC to become a gigachad and he gets a pitchfork to be used for a distance attack and stripper polevaulting
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>>11124745
>>Fertility/cow god that wants to be less voluptuous so she can be more graceful. MC gets a CHESUTO hydraulic milk push or higher strength and overalls

Ha, maybe he would start lactating and that would allow him to cast Mana Milk and recharge everyone mana a bit
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>>11124687
this story is kind of neat, tho nothing much happened. just has nice little details
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>>11124828

Oh, it's not done; I'm just going to be posting it in three-part chunks, then probably post the entire thing on Pastebin when complete
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>>11124687
My friend, I admire you for trying to be creative, but for the love of God, if you're going to write, just write, don't make it into a greentext.
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>>11124876
yeah...

gonna rewrite it and put it on tgstorytime because I have too much for just a greentext lmao
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I know this isn't really tsf but if any of you are into bodyswap stuff there's a pretty good futa female one with tsun and it's definitely hitting some of the same buttons for me
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>>11125019
body swap is good and can be fucking amazing at times.

not too into futa, but I might check it out
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>>11124724
Not very fetishy, but a literal ghost that just wants to feel again. You give up some of your sensation and get some damage resistance.
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>>11125161
maybe the mc can stick giant dicks or shit like broken pillars up her ghost coochie, maybe even cacti
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>>11123209
>any good futa
No such thing and kys faggot
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>>11116605
Hey guys. What happened to this TG archive?

https://tg-gallery.notion.site/tg-gallery/All-TG-Collections

>Chie Satonaka's Notion

It looks like there's no way to access it anymore. It had thousands of TG videos.
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>>11125352
Adominal pregnancy is pretty hot anon. Girl fucks her best friend into a pregnant woman.

The only reason we don't story time it is the fucking author included a flash back to them as pervy 10 year olds.
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btw 4th chapter came out (but it's paywalled)
https://viewer-trial.bookwalker.jp/03/19/viewer.html?cid=83e9cc17-10c6-451f-b706-94ad736370cd&cty=1
forced feminization as you like, anons
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New page for this
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>>11124474
ive had an idea along these lines

'curse baiting'

organizations that have magic experts but no source of magic itself, so they send baiters to get themselves cursed. a curse is still magic and they're scientific enough to be able to dismantle it back into raw usable magic.

so the MC finds this is the perfect job. he's a living internet troll and he's good fishing for curses by pissing people off in just the right manner.

ends up getting cursed into a beanpole of a girl with massive tits, heads back to HQ, then discovers HQ is gone. they finally pissed off someone who actually looked into it and got wiped out.

MC stuck as tits on a stick girl.
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>>11123209
I have some stories if you're interested but less doujin/Images
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>>11125620

Ah, you need to flesh it out if this is going to be a story.

Like have the business cursed and put in another realm. MC has to work with a demon girl or succubus to discover the truth and return his coworkers to our realm. Find out in the end that everything he did to save his coworkers just reinforced the titty stick curse and now it can never be reversed. Mc is upset but demon woman or succubus is over joyed and wants MC to be her wife. End series with time skip of demon woman's arm over MC's shoulder, MC 9 months pregnant. Both looking very smug and happy. Last speech bubble is something like "with demon chan by my side, the curse ended up being a blessing"
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>>11120380
This concept of getting cucked by being genderswapped is great but its disssapointing to see how the MC immediately starts acting like a girl upon switching (e.g. "Eh... Ehh?!"). For a gender swap to be truly satisfying, the MC should be acting overly manly or boyishly at first and then be forced to slowly watch his masculinity crumble and errode from the fact that everyone will always treat him like a woman.
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>>11118215
I'm not normally one to care about plagiarism, I just think it's kind of neat "i recognize that tattoo".
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>>11125743
I'd kill for an animation taking place over the long term after a genderswap showing the internal voice of the MC slowly changing from a male voice to a female voice
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>>11125870
There's this porn cartoon called A Girl's Perspective by nevarky
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>>11125870
you'd probably have to get an actual tranny to do the internal-voicework in that case
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>>11125914
Wavercd is one, princess_lil and kinky utterances too
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Anyone have the link to that one website with all the Touhou tg stories? Can’t find the damn link
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>>11125743
>This concept of getting cucked by being genderswapped is great
No it isn't. Fuck you. You're the reason why my fetish is filled with misery porn.
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>>11126836
I think it's better when the TSF victim is the one who does the cucking

>guy gets turned into girl
>start fucking best friend
>best friend's girlfriend finds out
>they break up, leaving best friend all to TSF victim
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>>11126963
Reminds me of a Korean(?) comic I can't find anymore where the MC's girlfriend cheats on him, he gets transformed into a girl by an asshole witch, and then proceeds to win over his ex's new boyfriend solely to watch her cry for what she did. It then ends with the MC thinking they probably went a step too far after having finished having sex with him, and the asshole witch laughing at the whole thing in a cutaway part in the corner.

All I remember is that the witch was a reoccuring character since the artist had another comic of her turning someone else into a girl who then reacted by decking the witch straight to the stomach
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>>11126790
>https://rentry.org/hongfever
I didn't find anything that really caught my attention but I do have the link
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>>11124484
Sauce?
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how often do you see incest in TSF? because I see it somewhat often, but other people I know who look at TSF shit don't
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>>11127033
look at the file name; if it's [numbers]_p#, just put the numbers into pixiv
https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/122292279
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I'm not into ryona, but I had the idea of a guy getting levitated by a poltergeist and thrashed around his room, each strike leaving him more beat up and more feminine
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>>11127055
So he turns into Darkness from konosuba or Ryona from Senran Kagura?
From painful screams into bitch moans even sluts would blush when they hear it
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>>11127037
I will eventually just stop spoonfeeding zoomzooms
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>>11127035
basically never, maybe one doujinshi but that's it
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>>11127035
I know of multiple tsf doujins that are like 'my annoying brother got turned into a girl' and then they have sex, though I don't have it on hand. there's also several that involve a father figure. in the west, evil stepfathers are more common in that role
I think the incidence rate within tgtf is about on par with the general incidence rate of incest overall, though that's just on feel. I don't have a single number to back that up
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>>11126836
>Fetish is filled with misery porn
Good lord, yeah, I agree with you.
It's always the cuckfags that are busy ruining all my favorite fetishes, and I have to read the tags of any content I want to check out with a fucking magnifying glass and even then sometimes that shit sneaks in somehow
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>>11127092
I wouldn't really call what I did "spoonfeeding" since, unlike some n'wahs, I actually told them how to do it so they stop asking
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A few times. Most of the time it's yuri or the sister becoming a futa though. There's a few of the MC turning into someone's little sister, and there's one I remember where the MC is turned into the daughter of his own lover and the demon lord, who then proceeds to impregnate him
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>>11127374
>I wanted you to die
Holy shit that's dark
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>>11127377
He was raping her so it was deserved, he then got mindbroken and reprogrammed to be a little sister that loves her big sister's double ended dildo.
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>>11122337
>With that said, smoking in fiction is actually really attractive for whatever reason,

That's because subconsciously, the cigarette is a dick and a sexy woman smoking looks like she's giving a blowjob.
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>>11127374
>>11127392
sauce
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>>11127648
sauce is stop being retarded and use the built in image search options before asking
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>>11127392
"He that liveth by rape shall he dieth by rape."

Book of Reverse Rape Chapter 1 verse 4.
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>>11127338
Need the reverse cuck. The cuck guy fails to seduce the genderbent mc's girl and both the MC and his loyal girlfriend steal that guy's GF instead, making her go lesbo for the pair.
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>>11127648
Deuteronomy 22:13–29
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theres a few
sister sometimes turning futa and having her way with brother turned girl either revenge, humiliation or actual love
older or younger brother having their way with brother turned girl (younger brother with now even smaller sister is best)
sauce is Imouto Idolize
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>>11127688
Stop lying to the zoomers, anon. It's clearly Song of Solomon 7:6–14.
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>>11127674
Show me
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>>11127724
What a great dildo. I wish magic sex toys were easier to find.
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>get turned into a girl
>Mom loves to dress you up in cutest and girliest of clothes
>she also shows you the pleasures of a girl
Change-De! is probably one of my favorites of all time
>>11127674
think i was something like this but cant remember
also isnt there one where the guy getting cucked is turned into a girl and the ex GF is the one that gets cucked
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>>11127374
>>11127377
brother really derserved it and is lucky she showed mercy
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>>11125954
>WaverCD and princess_lil
God I really wanted to like the idea of TG audios but the squeaky “girly” tranny voice absolutely ruins it for me.

Could an actual female (female) voice actress work? One who could do a convincing teenage guy (or even shota) voice? I don’t know why hearing the actual male tranny voice is such a boner killer but the idea of the voice changing is great.
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>Could an actual female (female) voice actress work?
I've only ever heard actual women doing the post-TF side of audio content, with actual men doing the pre-TF role. One person trying to cover both is going to be unconvincing in one of the roles.
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>>11128068
I suppose technically the author themselves could do it with a whole lot of practice. Most trannies that sound just like natural women didn't use surgery to sound like that and they can still use their original voice when they choose to.
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>>11128053
Waver doesn't do that. He always hires women to do the women in his audios.
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>>11128083
>Most trannies that sound just like natural women
lmao implying
I have seem men manage to do female voices, but no man that was a tranny.
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>>11128101
Sometimes it takes too long for the transition from the trans voice to the natural female voice in their stuff for my liking.
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>>11128107
He is not a tranny
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>>11127947
>>she also shows you the pleasures of a girl
https://e-hentai.org/g/2267396/6a72bb5b85/
you may like this doujin I read recently
>>11128053
in traditional voiceacting, women do young boys. so if you're sexually attracted to ash ketchum, as a well-known example, that may do for you. but generally speaking, if you want an adult male voice, you'll need to start with a testosteronized voicebox. some trannies do manage to get a natural sounding result on both ends, but most don't escape the inevitable trannyvoice stage. if you want examples of that then you'd need to look for tranny voicetraining resources
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>>11128154
that doujin is hot but didnt care for it along with the other one thats the same (dont remember which came first) betrayal and ntr not my thing
would be hot if they got a part 2 with her getting revenge
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>>11128101
>Waver doesn't do that.
He does use his tranny voice a lot which sounds disgusting imho. Basically what >>11128107 said. There’s multiple audios where Waver will use the tranny voice for a very long portion, sometimes even longer than the woman’s screentime.

I think kinkyutterances does a better job because he doesn’t do the tranny voice at all before the actual woman shows up and he only voices the first 30 seconds or so, giving the woman most of the screentime.

>>11128152
He is “non-binary“ as uses “she/he” pronouns.

>>11128154
Yeah the Ash Ketchum voice could work. I’d love to hear a MtF audio with only a woman voicing a shota turning into a girl, or age progressing into a woman.
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>>11128222
>shota to woman

I need a shota AP TSF animation where the VA goes from boy voice to MILF voice.
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>>11128053
>Could an actual female (female) voice actress work

It's hard to think of something TSF related that is more unsettling than getting actual women involved. All those youtube genderswap series with women in them (and live action stuff generally) is unwatchable. Knowing that a woman would be trying to pretend to be a man forced into a woman's body is far worse than just having text on a screen, with the reader making their own inferences about how the genderswapped male would speak
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>>11128225
This. It’d be so kino hearing an Ash Ketchum type voice becoming a MILF voice, going ara ara and everything.

>>11128238
Fair enough. I can see why getting an actual woman involved could get awkward since I guess she’d be pretending to be a guy in a way. TSF is very male-dominated so that could only happen if the woman was a hired voice actor anyway.
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why are you guys worried about using actors?

Just use AI. I bet there is a way to blend the output
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>>11128269
True. AI voices are advancing pretty fast. The only question is if AI can do convincing moans yet. Once it reaches that point, it’ll be unstoppable.
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>>11128292
AI scares me because it feels like it’s going to put creatives out of jobs
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>>11128406
The main benefit I can see is that it’ll allow more people to create content for any niche fetish you could think of without needing to commission it. But I agree it’s sad to think that human artists may be put out of business in the future.
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>>11128441
Found this on a facebook meme group of all places. Sadly no sauce.
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>>11128441
>I don't know the source
>>11128466
>Sadly no sauce.
Amateurs.
https://twitter.com/Flick06484765/status/1836378975603679405
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>>11128406
Nah the real AI danger is basically what happened to "indie" gamedev, where release charts are flooded with all sorts of uninspired copies of same few genres (games?). So even if you somehow manage to do average game(i.e. unless its a standout) chances that it would drown in piles of shitpost-tier games are much higher, so any sort of recognition or reach becomes harder to achieve.
Once (if) AI would be actually able to compete with average (so again, not extremely talented/dedicated) author/artist en masse - finding something genuine or fresh is going to be a hard task by itself.
Because even once AI would be able to draw and write at high level, it cant give you good ideas, and for every person with a vision (who could not, lets say, draw before, but was good at story) there is going to be 50 literal retards with most basic inputs.
Content drought has at least small advantage of being manually processable. So its possible check all new stuff and quickly sort out good/bad things either by yourself or by other random anons.
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Anyone have the manga panel with the class poll asking what would you do if you switched genders and the first answer for all of them is masturbate?
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>>11128877
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>>11128925
Because tentacle monster is literally me.
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>>11128879
>https://e-hentai.org/s/2654a6a4c8/343179-20
holy shit thank you, finding an english version was impossible
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>>11128292
>The only question is if AI can do convincing moans yet. Once it reaches that point, it’ll be unstoppable.
It can
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>>11127674
now thats an interesting idea
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>>11129086
Any examples? I’d be interested to hear it for research purposes.
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>>11128413
endless slop that appeals to the lowest common denominator, hooray
it'll be like the golden age of paperdoll except they will also drown out all the good content and be undistinguishable at first glance so a lot more time consuming to filter out
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>>11127338
cuckholdry is just another conduit for humiliation, like rape, status loss, mind alteration
TSF has always had very strong ties with humiliation, sorry it's not your ideal tranny fetish about people who actually always wanted go be women the whole timd
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>>11129214
Not him but with willing TSF I just headcanon that a mental change happened that forced the guy mentally to be OK with becoming a woman, not that he wanted it to happen. That way it avoids both misery/humiliation and trannyshit since both extremes are kind of shit.
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>>11127035
There's Hentai Fugato: Twins. Brother can transform into a girl, sister into a futa, they go at it like rabbits for like 7 chapters.

It turns out their parents were exactly the same.
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>>11129403
My apologies. It's Hentai Futago

Note the spelling correction.
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>>11129214
>It's always the cuckfags that are busy ruining all my favorite fetishes, and I have to read the tags of any content I want to check out with a fucking magnifying glass and even then sometimes that shit sneaks in somehow
fuck... i'm starting to adore TSF'ing the cuck to double the sluts i would end up plapping and impregnating.
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>>11129214
Personally I think you can have a transformation where the guy's fine with it without coming off as trans shit for much the same reason body swaps and possession doujins aren't always perceived like that. Really all depends on if it's a "always felt like they were a woman inside" vs if it's obvious it's now a guy's mind in a female body where they just do perverted or sociopathic shit knowing full well who they are inside. Problem is a lot of writing doesn't do much with it
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>>11129746
That makes me wish there was more content with a dominant transformee. I had a pretty /d/-tier idea of a guy who has a succubus villainess alter ego whose womb acts as a portal to hell and gives hyper-birth to loyal demons, or maybe even unbirths people into becoming her minions. The story would basically be about the guy planning/achieving world domination to rule it as the succubus queen, while also trying to keep people from finding out it's him.
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>>11129820
>That makes me wish there was more content with a dominant transformee.
Same here. One idea I've been playing around with is around a couple who has a troubled sex life due to the girl being really bad at satisfying her boyfriend's request to be dominant
>Girlfriend wishes to herself he would want to be the dominant one instead
>The two of them suddenly flip genders
>"He" concludes that they'll probably turn back if he shows "her" how good sex is when a guy is dominant
>Ends up getting cuffed on the bed by his now female partner
>As she brings him close to climax, she reveals she didn't expect her wish that the former-girlfriend would "realize how great sex is when a girl is dominant" would end this way, but is more than happy to take on the role
>He has no chance to even feel conflicted over the fact their combined wishes are probably permanent due to his overwhelming attraction to his partner's newfound confidence and the mindblowing sex

>The story would basically be about the guy planning/achieving world domination to rule it as the succubus queen
I'd be all over this concept. Monster girl and related content is severely underused in this fetish
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>>11129214
I dislike how misery porn fans piggyback off other fetishes. You should get your own thread.
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>>11129214
This. With no tension or struggle it's just fucking boring. Do mfers SERIOUSLY get off to willing tg and bra shopping in 2024? That's insane
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>>11130035
Sure why not
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>>11129214
There are multiple types and tiers of humiliation, they are not born equal. If you think they are you should probably just end yourself.
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>>11129936
That sounds like a great story idea. Couple genderswaps are a great way to explore different aspects of TSF.

>>11130035
You can have tension and struggle with a willing tg, like having external conflict from the guy’s friends/family/government trying to abduct him for experimentation to find out he managed to turn into a girl, when in actuality even he doesn’t know, he just thought about it one day and it happened.
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>>11129600
I like cuckholdry in TSF only if I'm the one cheating on my girlfriend after being turned into a girl and my mind altered in some way, but I don't think there's a name for this side of the cuckholdry
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>>11130059
if you're ok with rape but draw the line at cucking, you should seek help
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>>11130263
At what point did I say that? I didn't? Fuck off and die then.
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>>11130262
Saving wife from stranger's dick gone wrong, gone sexual.
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