Everybody has at least one tool they thought would be a lifesaver, yet it sits on the shelf mocking you year after year...
>>2865174Because I know everybody wants to hear my opinion…First, let’s talk about the compound action pliers that were all over the place a couple years ago, seems like a good idea like bolt cutters. However, every single pair has more resistance which means the added leverage is cut down slightly already. And then you need to open your grip much wider for a given jaw opening, so especially on the cutter when you want to chop something large, it’s hard to get a real good grip when your hand is open so much wider than the optimal grip.The double x pliers, meh. I grab my Knipex long guys, the double X ones are heavy and larger and awkward to use in the tightest spots where you would want them to excel. Go to the medical supply store for stuff that will fit in tight spots.And then there’s the knockoff Raptor pliers and the Channies, there’s a real specific size of fastener that fit well in those jaws, and you’re better off trying not to mangle those 1/2”-5/8” nuts in the first place. I’m of the opinion that most of these pliers are unnecessary if you get normal pliers with properly heat treated steels. If you get quality cutters, long nose pliers, or Cobra type pliers with good steel that are sharp, then the goofy designs and double pivots don’t add anything.
>>2865174>YOUR MOST DISAPPOINTING TOOLMy penis
>>2865174I've got the newer brushless version of that rotary tool and it's great. Used it on a couple gunsmithing projects.Honestly, I don't think I have any useless tools. If you do, you should just sell them. Taking up space is also taking up time, money, and thought. Life is better without extra things.
>most disappointingThey sell "drill press" mounts for regular corded drills for about $20, it's an awful piece of shit. You'd think you'd at least get a good angle of drilling if nothing else, but it's so flimsy that it's not even good for that.>>2865174I got the Parkside ultra-cheap version of that tool and it's great. Obviously it's pretty weak, but even ~100W is enough for a lot of stuff. Diamond bits, deburring, small sanding work, occasional grinding.
>>2865181according to my mom, me
I gave my dad a set of these and he never used them. Now I know why. It's because they're gay.
>>2865248Craftsman had some fun meme tools the last decade or two at Sears, the bullshit that wives and daughters would buy from a Father’s Day display. Especially under the Mach label.I bought the Craftsman pass-thru socket set with the universal spline sockets from one of those displays thinking it was a meme but it was like $20 so whatever if it saved my ass once. Then I realized Gearwrench had a long handle flex head ratchet that fit those sockets, and the nano sockets fit in there too, and that combination is actually super useful.
>>2865174If you consider a multitool like that useless then you're simply not doing anything interesting.I use mine all the time.>>2865180Fuck off.
>>2865174I fell for the meme.
>>2865180>>2865277Do they make those pistol grip pliers in the extended double jointed style for maximum reach? I don't own any pistol grip style pliers. Never really saw a need for them. The extended needle nose pliers with the double joints are quite handy grabbing things out of deep inaccessible spots. I also used them for picking up drip tape out of a 10 acre field that I tore out last spring. Kept me from having to bend over that last 13 inches and helped me save my back slightly. Standard trash pickers wouldn't have worked well because you actually had to grip and pull the shit out of the ground. That was a shitty job fit for illegals...
>>2865257That meme pass through spline set was purchased by apex and now sold for $25-30 under crescent. I grabbed one last year and just threw it in the junk drawer as a get out of jail free card when I need it. Used it 5-6 times now, it's proven worth the $25
>>2865350You take that back. That was one of the first tools I bought in high school and I unironically use it more now than ever before. I like using it for pilot holes. It's one less bit I have to change and I feel like I can aim better than with the DUHWALT and also it's a little fun ok? Is fun allowed?
>>2865277Now that's a ''useful-once-in-a-lifetime'' tool
>>2865174My highly experienced (as am I) bro bought one and offered to give it to me since he greatly prefers his Ryobi and never uses his either because he hates it. I turned it down because if it pisses him off I've no use for it. Finding a tool neither of us want is an accomplishment. I use various Dremels, pneumatic grinders, a RotoZip with multiple collets and my two beloved 5196 Milwaukee do make a ballsy corded die grinder that's so tough I bought mine used after maintaining a fleet of them (if ya see one missing the collet and/or nut, lower your bid by what those cost plus something for your time). >>2865343Those are worth owning for any mechanic though the true reason for spline offerings is splined hardware commonly used on aircraft.This 11-amp sword of destiny is loved by pipe welders for good reasons. https://www.milwaukeetool.com/Products/5196
>>2865381>This 11-amp sword of destinyi find its little bro to be handier and easier to wield
>>2865353I keep my old Millers falls breast drill with build-on level, my braces, planes, hand hacksaw (fresh blades can cut surprisingly quickly), anvil, hammers and OA/OP torch plus of course plenty of common automotive (mostly) hand tools.All that was dirt cheap and saves me far more money than those items cost because I often buy quality used tools. Estate sales, business liquidations and similar offer great deals (so ignore FOMO).
>>2865248Those suck indeed so I cut and bend them to make special tools (and discard the open end).
>>2865382Those are nice too but our students were killing them so after those we had died off we upgraded.
I used to have an electrical buddy who used a Dremel to cut conduitYes he was very dumb
>>2865174Electric screwdriver. "eeeeeeeeee" What is this for?, a crippled person?Slip joint pliers. Half weak pliers, half bolt scratcher.Spring opened pliers. Just why?
>>2865343I don’t think it was bought by Apex. Remember that Sears era Craftsman never had a factory to make their tools, it was a brand name, so Apex was making them for Craftsman.I got them 50/50 for the spline drive on whatever dumb application and the pass-thru, and honestly the pass-thru saved me a couple times. Working on this Honda with a 2.4, the motor mount on the top passenger side has one 17mm nut on a super long stud and a deep socket won’t fit. Flex head ratcheting box end would fit, but once I got the handle at an angle where I could clear obstacles, it was so steep that there was no torque and I risked rounding the nut because the wrench head was getting crooked. The extensions for the pass-thru set will create an extra deep socket, add the long handle Gearwrench ratchet and it worked perfect.Also if you want, Home Depot sells Husky nano impact sockets now, and those actually fit in those Apex pass-thru ratchets.>>2865277I got that too with a coupon. I figure one day that tip will help me with a sensor or electrical connection in a dumb spot. The one time that $15 set of pliers saves your ass, it’s worth the price of admission.>>2865285Not that I have seen. I don’t even know how you would do it with the double joint, and they would probably be super unbalanced. The new Milwaulee extended pliers are actually quite interesting, it’s a smart design. Also if you want goofy long pliers, check out medical supply places.
>>2865174this piece of crap- marks the vinyl wherever it touches- acrylic coated siding? it will scrape the coating right offOnly used as a last resort for unhooking now. For swiping, the trimmed hook of a siding scrap works better, without damaging the siding. Also, plastic bicycle tire irons are good for swiping.
>>2865174It was cheap as shit so maybe I shouldn't complain but having a fence that's aligned with itself and not warped and also not permanently a degree off does not seem like that big of an ask, especially from a Japanese company.
>>2865363>Makes every non-political thread into some political bullshit... I wonder who is behind this post.
>>2865174All of my ryobi tools. What a fool I was
>>2865598Is Ryobi really that bad?
>>2865389That's called getting paid by the hour. A fucking pipe cutter would be faster.
>>2865650If you're just a home DIY guy who needs some tools for some random project every other month? Go for it. They're fine if you just need a decent tool for occasional use and only want one battery brand.
>>2865540someone who made the mistake of voting for him in 2016.
>>2865650No. Everybody who actually owns them says they’re plenty good for DIYers.
>>2865650Their gardening stuff is good. I bought a cheap miter saw from them that was absolute ass. It could only make crooked cuts and eventually stopped working. I went through two drills on my home renovation too
>>2865174this circumcision cutter is absolute dogshit at cutting insulation without knicking the conductor. the swivel blade wanders so the cut never lines up and butchers the wire end. bought it to do gayass thermoplastic insulated direct burial uhv aluminum feeder and had a miserable time trying not to break off strands
>>2865194this is crap from the factory, but they are really easy to fix
>>2865194There’s a useful version of this, it lets you drill straight holes into the ends of beams
>>2865363REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>2866033truth hurts.
>>2865174can't really think of anything, worst tools I had were super cheap screwdrivers but I didn't buy them. even really cheap crappy wrenches are good when you need a very special tool as you can grind and cut them to what you need.I have tools I don't use a lot, and tools I bought but not used yet, but no nothing comes to mind.
>>2865174My circular saw. I thought it would be god send when I got it. But I only use it like twice a year
>>2865174RotoZip 'saw'.
>>2865194you buying a cheap shitty one does not make the product as an idea bad
>>2866428If you aren't constantly cutting out utility box opening through drywall, you don't need one.
>>2866428I used to drool over those every time I went into home depot but couldn’t justify the expense since I already had a skilsaw.Glad I didn’t. Spent the dough on booze instead probably.
>>2865174>hand sanderpretty awkward to use, better to just use a belt sander
>>2866476> belt sanderI remember the first and last time I used a belt sander.I had just assembled a big entertainment-unit cabinet, but the tenons were a bit proud on the top, and the TV top piece wasn’t sitting flat.Go out, get belt sander. Load on a 60 grit belt.Press sander down on the top rails where the tenons were proud, press down hard and turn on sander. It only has one speed: full blast.Made a 1/4” belt-sander shaped divot in about a second before I realized what was happening.good times.
>>2865174I bought some shitty old ass cement mixer. It worked fine but it didn't mix well due to the shape of the barrel. I would have to add a shitload of water to the cement to get it to start mixing instead of all sticking to the side of the barrel.Eventually I ripped the motor off it and threw the rest in the bushes, where it will stay forever. I went out and bought a good metal wheelbarrow instead which I use for mixing concrete. It's faster to do by hand than with that piece of crap
>>2866455the spiral cutout tool that is commonly referred to as rotozip isn't what anon is referring to I believe. he means the actual rotozip branded zipsaw.
>>2865194Got one of these for my father-in-law's tools after he died. I've got a proper drill press so I don't even use this it's been sitting on a shelf since I got it>>2865350Years ago when I was still doing woodwork with hand tools, I got a whole bunch of bits plus a brace to use them and one of the best ones was an adjustable bit that I could make holes up to about two and a half inches in diameter. Great for drilling just one or two holes of a weird size that you don't want to go and buy a drill bit for>>2865381My brother did jewelry and used to Dremel for years until it burned out and he never replaced it. I don't know why people hold those tools and such high regard
>>2865525Cheap compound miter saws are just an exercise in frustration. I spent good money and got a dewalt.I was cutting all kinds of basalt with a diamond blade on mine to fit it for my outdoor wood fired oven. And now I'm going to use it to shape the hard centered fire brick into a dome shape by slicing off a bit on each side of the brick. A bit slow on this salt but that's the nature of it. I'm making my bearings grind though I guess I damaged them a bit with The Rock dust.
>>2865650I have one of their routers I bought it very early in my power tool journey. The first one I bought was a Makita three and a quarter inch hand planer. That tool is still going strong.The rotor on the other hand is hard to adjust, definitely underpowered even though it claims to be two and a half horsepower, call it doesn't hold very securely unless you're really careful and the locking mechanism is troublesome to use. And the on-off switch is Tiny and hard to use
>>2866488I had to do a bunch of finger joints final size for a couple of my telescope case projects. I used a Spoke shave on the smaller one, and I used a Stanley Bedrock playing adjusted very finely with a Hock extra thick plane blade in it. I've got a random orbit sander, and one of those simonizers for doing large sanding jobs. Trouble is my random orbit is suffering from age and it's working very intermittently and I suspect it needs new brushes or part of this stator is gone on the wiring
>>2866558>random orbit is suffering from age and it's working very intermittentlyFew years ago one of mine started acting up, ended up being the power switch.
>>2866558How do you tell if the brushes are dying? Ive got this vacuum in my shop, and lately when i’m using it, there is this weird smell and it sounds a bit funny.The smell is like… you know those old RC cars (and trains) that has those metal tracks, and you pick up the car when it was warm after racing it and sniff it? Like that. Kind of a oily/electronic smell.
>>2866588Open it up and see how much meat is left on the brushes. Some of the old corded tools are super easy to access, it’s like 2 slotted screw caps. That ozone smell isn’t always dying brushes, I think a lot of times it’s all sorts of old brush dust and crap in there getting stuff dirty and causing some extra sparks.
>>2866590>That ozone smell isn’t always dying brushes, I think a lot of times it’s all sorts of old brush dust and crap in there getting stuff dirty and causing some extra sparks.Sometimes it's the armature or windings that are fucked causing a lot of extra arcing and sparking making that ozone smell.
>>2866602This too happened to me on a dremel, dead spots on the motor and it was sparking like a bitch as it jumped between good spots and spots
>>2865540>>2866033your nose is showing
>>2866550Portable presses like >>2865989 are fantastic for a lot of stuff where bringing the work to a drill press is impractical.
>>2865650I have ryobi wacker, trimmer, drill, jigsaw, a fucking air inflator...I just keep buying them when i need a cheap tool that i don't use constantly, and I keep thinking one day I'll get tired of them and replace them with better stuff, but they never break. My drill is about 15 years old and I use it monthly.
Automatic spark-plug gapping tool. You would set the gap, insert the plug and squeeze the handle. Supposedly a perfect gap, every time. I don't think they even make it, anymore. Biggest fucking waste of money, ever.
>>2865650Some is really decent and some is really that bad.
>>2867014This. People who actually own them have no issue with the stuff.>>2867051I can’t remember the last time I bought a spark plug that wasn’t gapped just fine from the factory. I think gapping plugs is a boomer thing like filling up batteries with distilled water, it’s totally unnecessary in 99% of situations today.
>>2866681If I need to bring a homemaker to a part then it's the portable drill I've never needed one of these presses.
>>2867074>I can’t remember the last time I bought a spark plug that wasn’t gapped just fine from the factory. I think gapping plugs is a boomer thing like filling up batteries with distilled water, it’s totally unnecessary in 99% of situations today.You still check em though right?
>>2867051Sounds like the perfect tool twice a decade
This. Not because it doesn't work. Not because it is cheap ancient awkward to operate. Not because the bits are Chineseium.But because the transparent base it has that is used to hold the attachments, has a huge plastic nib that sticks out into the cylinder that you put the router into and bottoms out a good fucking 8mm from surface flush. I'm losing so much depth of cut with this stupid design.
>>2865174
>>2867386Just nut up and buy the DeWalt or Bosch, don't go Amazon bargain hunting on a key tool like this. I personally prefer the way the DeWalt adjusts.
>>2867371…and I feel like I wasted my time every single time I check the gap on new plugs.>>2867386>>2867402That’s actually a tool I was tempted to go cheap on, just because it’s such a basic one that it looks like they could all be Makita knockoffs and the design has been the same forever.I ended up going Kobalt for my big router with table and the smaller palm router. I don’t really have Kobalt anything besides those, but in both situations I was thinking about Bosch because their router is super popular, never pulled the trigger, and then one day looking at the Bosch again, one of the Kobalts went on sale for so cheap that I couldn’t pass up on it.As a non-woodworker who builds a random wood project maybe 2-3 times a year, I figured Kobalt would be good enough since they’re generally solid tools. They have worked good so far and both the big router and table and the palm router ended up being about the price of a no-name Amazon brand when they went on sale for such a low price.
>>2865174Bosch IXO Bought it on sale for 20€ but it has no torque so you have to tighten everything by hand.Bought a Metabo 12v Powermaxx BS set for 50€ and it has actual power, adjustable torq, and the battery lasts way longer.The IXO was a mistake. Can't even unscrew secured bolts.On that note:Inbus is the better Locktite.Same performance for half the price
>>2867408I actually splurged for a Bosch router after killing one old as hell router and having issues with another loosening up and self adjusting it's depth on me during a project. Bought it after that particular project was done, and haven't used it once since! Lol. So goes life. I'm set up for the next time I need a damn router though! T. Not a wood-worker.
>>2867632>Inbus is the better Locktite.>Not using Locttlf... ISHYGDDT
>>2865174The only disappoint thing in this kind of tool is how horrible the cutting disks are. You look at them and they already break in half. And it is not a simple matter of having sideways pressure during the cut either, because they break by falling on the floor.I bought a more expensive set and I am waiting to test it out and I hope this time it doesn't break by a simple wind passing through it.
>>2867642ching chong ping pong ripoff loctite has been working fine for me. ive put it in $25k cat engine rebuilds and never thought twice about it
>>2867738I do a bit better with name brand accessories. Wait for Dremel to go on clearance and stock up, or Walmart had the Hart brand on clearance at some stores for super cheap. The tend to run better than the Amazon Chinesium special 1000pc sets if you use them correctly. Sanding and grinding bits are the same, generic Chinese consumables are the worst,
i bought a 12v dewalt hammer drill because i just assumed it could hammer without drilling, i was looking forward to chipping off some mortar from a stack of old bricks i havei even bought a set of chisels off amazon in anticipation, so now I guess I either use my large corded SDS or I use it on hammer drill mode but with a typical jackhammer bit on it and just pretend I dont see it rotateit came with two 12v batteries for less than the cost of said batteries alone so its not a complete loss
>>2867744Seriously its been working fine for me too. I honestly bought the Locttlf stuff off of banggood many years ago and been using it since. Crazy how expensive name brand Loctite is!
>>2867804Tons of the smaller SDS-Plus type drills don’t have a hammer only mode. I’d assume a 12V barely has any more hammering force than a typical 18V hammer drill/driver. If you go big like SDS-Max, then you should have a little more force for the hammer only.
>>2865174Sawsall, used it for demo, but a circular saw an oscillating multi tool and a hack saw are always closer at hand the sawsall is a sledgehammer in my tool belt big and cumbersome.
>>2867804You kids.
>>2867873i have rsi/tendonitis from working with my hands my whole life and they go numb if i use them too much
>>2867956same. didn't take my whole life to get there tho
>>2867985>>2867956Kek, go talk to this anon>>2866807>>2866754
>>2865350Is that an analog dilator?
>>2867999>34 >gaming since 4 years old>every job since 18 has been hard on hands/wrists>completely absolutely fucked>wake up in morning and arms numb>hold hands above chest>arms numb>hold them out to side>arms numb>rest them on desk>arms numb>>2867985no matter what age you got rsi it took your whole life at that point
>>2865744Just use a knife, utility knife with disposable blades. You score the circumference at whatever length, and then either bend the end of the cable until the insulation parts and you slide it off, or you add one more score perpendicular to the first out to the cut end of the cable and peel it off.
>>2867744> loctite for circular partsWait until you look at the msds and test them and realize the 100 different loctites are all basically the exact same thing.
>>2868161Red, blue, and sleeve retainer are the 3 I keep on hand. I heard you can use the sleeve retainer as a super duper loctite for threaded fasteners that is even harder to disassemble than red loctite. Dunno how true that is, but i have put it on a few things i really didn't want to come apart again.
>>2868161yeah they have the same base compositions, and have slightly different proportions to tune the strength, what is your point anon? bc they clearly behave different
>>2865650No but actually yes
>>2865363Unironically go outside and touch grass, tranny.
>>2868292
>>2865174A few years ago I bought a pretty nice hardwood flooring cleat nailer for a job and thought I would get plenty of use out of it, but it seems like any time I install flooring these days it's all just laminate and lvp garbage. Haven't touched it since that one job. Would have been way better off just buying a fucking laminate cutter (still probably going to)
>>2865989I used one of these (someone else's) to drill holes to mount a solid wood mantle to a bracket and it seemed to work well enough, it just seems like a lot of extra work for a slightly straighter hole
>>2865181don't worry, I'm 6'5" with blonde hair, blue eyes, 250lb of strong with 11in long, and thicker than half my exes wrists. It's no better for methe problem isn't you, it's womennow I'm just gym, motorcycle, computer games.
>>2868361>6'5" with blonde hair, blue eyes, 250lb of strong with 11in long, and thicker than half my exes wrists.Way more gay dudes will be into you than women. A lot of women won't even try to take that.
>>2865744Skill issue. I used one of these professionally for years to strip large and fucking massive cables. Adjust the cutter for your insulation, pull the cable tight to keep it from twisting with the tool and dont be retarded.
>>2868307the point of those are often getting angled holes, not so much straight ones
>>2867384Not even. Didn't work, worth a shit. I could consistently hand-gap 8 cylinders, just as well and almost as fast.
>>2869046I stopped gapping plugs in 1986.
>>2865363
>>2865194get a wabeco but then it costs as much as a cheap drill press. and you need a good corded drill with small runnout not the old one you used to mix bags of mortar.
>>2869538it looks sturdy as hell, and the kind of shit i would integrate in an asembly line, not the kind you see in a home /diy/ but sure it would be useful
>>2869538But then why not buy the cheap drill press in the first place?
>>2871412while not as convenient, you cannot deny that is way more versatile.
>>2871411you could use it to mass produce some stuff really well if you build the right jigg.you can also buy a 2 axis milling table or really long columns for it.
>>2871523yeah the more i look into it the more it looks like it could be really useful in a small manufacturing workshop
Battery vacuum. Thought it would save lots of time during maintenance at a hotel but it hadnt much suction.I did find a use for it sucking bugs out of upturned chandelier shades.
>>2866428I used mine and a CNC spindle
>>2871538The one I've got is great when I'm doing stuff I do at work, like hanging TVs and putting holes in tables and cabinets for conference calling systems.
>>2871646the cheap home appliance kind ones are really shit
>>2871646The one i got was similar to pic rel. but about 8-10 years ago. I wanted a cheap one that i wouldnt mind killing with concrete dust because standard walls are RCB so to put up even a picture frame its usually a hammer drill and concrete screws or wall plugs and screws
>>2873148Yeah, that's one's a proper HEPA wet/dry that also works great with my Bosch random orbit sander. Don't even need a different adapter for it.
>>2873166how much the battery last?
>>2873248Haven't had it drop more than a bar even with multi-stage sanding of a decent sized 30" walnut slab. The kit comes with a 4AH XR battery.
>>2865674Including my bro and we're both long-experienced tool fetishists including running USAF maintenance support sections (designing and assembling tool kits etc). He bought Ryobi on the road to fix surprise fuckery at his relatives home and loves them including the rotary tool.
>>2866428They make good high-power "Dremel" tools, the reason I bought my motor at a yard sale. I've never needed it as anything else.
>>2867396That would be a decent deburring tool for 3d printing
>>2868161The msds is not good a way to compare 2 chemical mixtures but if you insist, the ones for 602 and 243 dont even list all the same hazardous compounds, eg propylene glycol
>>2873947>propylene glycol>hazardousIt's a neutral carrier fluid, as long as you aren't chugging it it's food-safe in small amounts.
I got it for free for testing it out so it could be worse, but the cabinet door alignment jig in picrel is so sloppily machined that it can't even begin to position anything within a typical cabinet door reveal tolerance...the adjustable plate that holds the door not only moves up and down when it needs to be fixed, it wobbles side to side so that a typical cabinet door corner can move up and down as much as 5/8". It's totally useless and what makes it worse is that it looks gorgeous with anodized extruded aluminum and chrome parts, like it's going to be some kind of precision jig...and because it's so specialized it's not even suitable to cannibalize for parts to make something else useful out of it.
>>2874002>I got it for free for testing it outWhat are you some kind of influencer or jewtoober?
>>2874010https://www.makeuseof.com/tag/amazon-vine-reviewer-free-stuff/
Tempted to snag picrel, but worried I will regret it. For $75, it looks perfect for tossing in the car when I need to go help people with projects because lately it has been a shit show trying to load up a few plumbing things and a few drywall things plus some stuff for wood framing/repair in my shitty tool bags.I worry that I will be disappointed though. Milwaukee is the most tempting but $$$$, the DeWalt system looks straight, Ridgid is cool and well built but not as comprehensive as the others. The Craftsman system is like DeWalt Jr and can be found for cheap, maybe I’ll look at that more, especially if DeWalt boxes will fit on it. It would suck if the Hart system gets discontinued or the lack of compatible boxes leaves me wanting more, but if I drop <$150 on a 3pc base plus a 3 drawer compartment and 2 half size organizers, it wouldn’t be that much invested.
this drill press cost me like 1000 bucks and the entire spindle wobbles like 0.010" impossible to reasonably drill accurate holes
>>2874229>not buying quality tools from the golden age of manufacturingyoull learn eventually
>>2874229>>2874239Yeah, I recently had to deal with that exact model grizzly at work as a drop-in "upgrade" for another relatively new press. Disappointing is right. Cheap in a lot of little, unexpected but seriously annoying ways. Effortlessly wrecked even by our other old rockwell/delta machines that have barely been maintained and have taper problems...
>>2867744Been using Eskonke for thread locker and retaining compound.
>>2874241Old tapers can be reground and those machines returned to service making money. It's not difficult to do so if your work will sell them to you for scrap or trade for some labor you could take one home and start that machine tool accumulation journey.BTW don't bother with machinery skates which slip and tip. Fabbing a suitable dolly doesn't even require a welder but one comes in quite handy.
>>2874229maybe change the bearings or look if you can change the preload of themcheap drill presses use radial ball bearings instead of proper bearings.
>>2865650Most of it is not bad at all. Someone specific ones are well behind on features thought. Their track saw is basically only good for cutting panels, the power and the crappy baseplate will disappoint you with more involved stuff. But I bought a bunch of their stuff 5 years ago when I was gutting and rebuilding a house that had a fire. Its all still going strong. Only issue is that the chuck on the original brushed drill/driver has gotten crunchy. Only 1 battery pack (one of the old 1.5Ah) out of maybe 8 I have has given up.>>2865744I have this same multi-head tool with the edger and string trimmer. Works great except that the edger eats the batteries pretty quick (usually need two 4Ah to trim and edge 1/3rd acre lot), and the speed selector switch on the side is positioned just right to rub against my knee and switch to low speed when I'm walking with it.
What the actual fuck is this thing even for? Don't think I've used it once.
>>2875721You dont need that tool, until you need that tool. Works good for removing sections of wood for repair. I just used mine for relacing some rotted wood in a pole barn. whole piece of wood didnt need to be replaced just a section. Cut it out patch it in. Also works good for cutting outlet holes and such.
>>2867386>ancientwhy is it ancienti was about to buy the same style of trim router about a month ago but from a slightly reputable chinese manufacturer what about the 12mm large one>>2867402>just pay 10x for a tool you'll need multiples of anyway
>>2875721It's perfect for cutting in tight areas where a normal saw has no room to move or can't fit, and also where typical saws risk damaging adjacent to finishes. Door and flooring installers use them a lot to make small adjustments to trim like casings to accomodate a thicker floor plank or vice versa, without the risk to surrounding finishes that a normal saw creates. They are also great with an abrasive blade for removing grout, and with a scraper blade for liftin old tile and glue residue.They also don't make a lot of dust and are very safe as far as cutting skin that touches them- the original idea came from saws used to cut casts off.
>>2875721It's kind of like a power chisel. It does plunge cuts really well.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lzv3IBnNVzo
>>2875806>They also don't make a lot of dust and are very safe as far as cutting skin that touches themFun fact: the amount they jerk back and forth is less than the elasticity of skin, so you literally can't cut yourself if you try.However, blade gets hot because of friction, and you absolutely can BURN yourself with it.
>>2875816>>2875806and no, depending on the type of blade and teeth geometry, you can absolutely cut yourself with oscillating tools, it just won't be a life-altering injury.
>>2875721Great for reno. Screws with no head holding shit to a structural beam? Rip this mofo between them and it's no problemo. Basically just for ripping screws, rotted wood and wire in super weird places and nothing else. Useless until you need it kinda deal. Mines always covered in dust every time I end up using it but I'm glad it's there.
>>2874017I have used this tool box for 4 years. It's not as stout as a name brand, but is ergonomic and does fine.
>>2865180I have X pliers from Crescent (the long nose model that I see everywhere) and they're really smooth as long as they're not opened really wide. I only need them for small stuff and opening the handles by a few milimeters opens the jaws that much as well, so I never noticed any difference compared to regular pliers>Go to the medical supply store for stuff that will fit in tight spots.this. hemostatic pliers are the best thing for grabbing and holding small stuff, and you can lock them shut, so you don't even need to keep holding anything. hard to get anything longer than 9-10'', though
>>2865174the ultimate meme product. It doesn't fit where you need it to be 99% of the time.
>>2875756Why ancient? Because I meant to type and
>>2875756>just pay 10x for a tool you'll need multiples of anywayWhy the fuck would you need several of the same type of router?I can understand getting two 2-1/4 HP routers so you can leave one in your table full time, but if it's for personal use why would you need multiple trim routers if you have one good one? And if its for a business, buying multiple good ones is a far better financial decision than cheap ones you have to replace every six months.
>>2877837I got that thing maybe 6mos or a year ago and I don’t think I have used it. Maybe it will be a lifesaver at some point, but so far I have been doing ok with the pliers already in my little tool bag.
>>2877939not the same type just multiple routers so you may as well get some low powered ones too one for router table, one for engraver/carver, one for mortiser, at least one to freehand and maybe one for your future homemade cnc lol>cheap ones you have to replace every six months that's an exaggeration even cheap things last a while you're just spoiled
>>2877987Use them in a business and you'll be pushing them a lot harder than they were made for. They also really suck to operate compared to even budget brand tools like Ryobi or Rigid. It's a scam to exploit people trying to get into the tools and get them to give money to a fly by night Chinese company that'll disappear before it inevitably breaks. And if you think they'll be good for a CNC, do I have bad news for you.
>>2878016>budget brand tools like Ryobi or Rigidthose are the tier of tools i'm talking about no? like total
>>2874229>wobbles like 0.010"oh poor you
>>2878036Please read up the reply chain, jackass.
>>2877944it's physically the biggest waste of space in your tool box
>>2865174I needed a new romex stripper in a rush because I lost mine, all they had was this piece of shit. It doesn't strip romex, it shaves the jacket like a retard with a potato peeler and either doesn't shave enough off or it shaves straight through both the outer jacket and the inner insulation, usually nicking the wire to boot.The worst part is that it cost me like 15 fucking dollars when the cheap romex strippers are like $3 and work 100x better.So I tossed this infuriating thing into the mississippi river and bought 10 of the regular ones to stash in my truck.
>>2878212Sort of reminds me of picrel and those shorts you see of guys twisting 20 wires in one box and then putting on another bit to twist the wire nuts. As if constantly changing tools and bits and using those meme tools wouldn’t waste more time than using the pliers you already have in your hand.
>>2878225Yeah, but stripping romex with a utility knife, or even worse a pair of linesmans, is both time consuming and likely to damage the insulation and potentially the conductor itself. The pliers style NM strippers suck and you can easily nick the conductor if you're not careful, unironically the cheap stamped metal rippers are the best way to strip romex outer sheath and expose the inner wires without damaging the insulation.
>>2878068i am the reply chain
>>2865650I have a handful of ryobi tools and they're all good enough, except the miter saw which is crooked
>>2879329Cordless saws are cooked I've used maybe 2 good ones and they're both contractor grade. Like Hilti/Milwaukee $$$. Ryobi is not contractor grade. If you're a /diy/er looking for cheap shit don't even bother with cordless saws it's a mess.
>>2878421Why are you posting a speculum?
Angle grinder and 1/2" impact. Don't get me wrong, I'm glad I have them when I needed them, but I've barely used them since getting the kit they came in. On the contrary, the recipro saw I got as a redemption gift on the kit (which I expected to never use) has been abused to hell and back.>>2875721I concur with the other anons; you're glad you have it when you've got it. Got one to cut off a welded nut in a real cunt of a place on one of my motorbikes, and didn't use it for ages until I had to do the same thing on a stationary motor that had a stripped thread on one of the nuts on the intake. Recently started using it a bunch for cutting holes for ducting through plastic, and cutting through old buried Ag pipe we needed to take off a site (rocky ass soil and fencing debris strewn everywhere made it too nasty for recipros). Was amazed by how fast it cut through the thick ass ag pipe actually, considering I only packed it to help one of our operators clear snagged fencing wire from an attachment on their machine.
>>2879378It's funny, as somebody who primarily does woodworking as well as homeowner DIY stuff and basic repairs, I have perhaps used an angle grinder like 2 times a year if even that much. It's just such a niche for me personally, and I agree that it has been the most... not disappointing, but just not used tool in my toolbox. The 1/2" impact only gets used when I have to work on my car or truck, which also happens to be only a couple of times a year.
>>2879359Are you being retarded on purpose?
>>2865285lol its like a shitty kerrison rogeur but without the long reach
>>2879378>>2879581Once you put the diamond blade on the angle grinder and realize you can cut and shape bricks and tile, it’s pretty useful. I snagged a 2pk of those Spyder diamond grit multi material blades when they were on sale for cheap, and it’s a mainstay on one grinder now. Anything I need to slice where the sawzall is going to drag or burn through blades, that little diamond blade is nice and it’s not all explode-y like cutoff wheels.
>>2879705I should look into that. I will say that diamond blades were life-changing for renovations on a multitool, so I can imagine it will do wonders on an angle grinder too, but it will be loud...
>>2879705There's also the Kutzall burr discs for powercarving wood.
>>2865363lol seethe harder faggot
>>2865174i hate dremel brand dremels, they run for a few months, start losing speed function and only go WOT or just stop working, and the old ones would just get hot and seize right the fuck up after a while, does anyone have a better alternative?
>>2879828They’re worth trying at this price. Not much louder than a cutoff wheel going through metal. I wouldn’t do like finish glass or tile work with it, but they cut anything
>>2879864Don't buy a rotary tool when you need a die grinder.
>>2879899I've used diamond blades on grinders and not really a fan, but at that price I'd get them just because why the fuck not. Where and when did you find them at that price?
>>2879905Blowe’sDon’t know who actually makes that Spyder stuff, but it’s supposed to be a more premium brand. I’ve snagged a handful of saw blades from them because they go dirt cheap on clearance at Lowe’s where the boomers would rather buy mediocre Craftsman, and all of the Spyder stuff has seemed on par with Diablo or DeWalt.
>>2879905>>2879921Also those blades aren’t like regular tile blades for grinders and circ saws. It’s more of a diamond grit like the type they put on gold OMT blades made for grout. It just chews trough whatever you plunge the blade into.
>>2879901i have both but those cunts dont get into where i need to get to.
>>2879922>Also those blades aren’t like regular tile blades for grinders and circ saws. It’s more of a diamond grit like the type they put on gold OMT blades made for grout. It just chews trough whatever you plunge the blade into.Yeah I know the type of blade, I've used the lennox metal maxx ones. Run 6" ones on a 4.5" grinder for some extra cut depth, and even have some 14" ones for chop saws. They're louder and slower than abrasives and leave a nasty burr. I have also used them in a pinch to cut concrete and other masonry.
>>2867632I saw an interesting video on youtube about loctite 241 threadlocker Vs regular superglue. The loctite only took something like 8 pounds on a digital torque wrench to undo after being left setting for 24 hours. Same test with regular superglue took 33 pounds to undo. Superglue is way cheaper and works way better as a thread locker.
>>2881423try >>2856266
>>2881423I don’t think loctite is meant to superglue threads together though. I’d be curious to see the same thing done on an engine that went through 2 years of heat cycles and vibrations. If the super glue rattles itself apart in 2 weeks and the bolt is spinning and the loctite keeps the bolt from backing out, which one did its job? Especially blue loctite, that’s not supposed to make fasteners hard to remove, it’s supposed to keep those fasteners from coming loose unless a purposeful torque is applied to it.
>>2881423>A formula meant to prevent loosening by vibration is "beat" by a permanent glueThis tells you exactly nothing. Blue's purpose is that it's not hard to unscrew it with a tool. Red is what you use to set it permanently.
>>2879921
remember this list before buying tools so you dont get dissapointed
>>2882217
>>2881796When I was a kid in Boy Scouts all the kids oohed and ahhed over those cheap knockoff "Swiss army" knives that had so many tools (including a full size dinner fork and soup spoon) that you had a hard time gripping them.My dad who was a major tool guy based on his work knew they were ridiculous and said so and wouldn't let me get one, one Christmas I got a gullible relative to give me one as a gift. Took it camping and it *was* a ridiculous POS that didn't do anything well and could hurt you since none of the tools locked; there wasnt any room left for the mechanism.Fast forward a few decades and all the same kids who are now grown men are oohing and ahhing over the Leatherman concept and after friends keep handing me theirs instead of a real tool when I ask for one, I realize it's just an adult version of the same wannabe McGuyver LARP.The point was driven home even harder when someone gave me a Snap-On version that was absurdly fat and hard to grip when using the knives and screwdrivers and similar tools, and guaranteed to pinch the fuck out of your palm and/or meaty parts of your fingers when using the wire cutter and the handles snapped together.
>>2882281Leatherman Wave is good if you have nothing else nearby. Anything larger than that is full of useless crap unless you get a specific tool like the one designed to rebuild an AR in the field. No substitute for a Leatherman when you need pliers, and that comes up a lot in beyond-boyscout life. But whether it’s a Leatherman knockoff or SAK, if you can’t open the knife with one hand and lock it, they’re a pain in the ass to use.
>>2882281>>2882285…but I must add, you’re correct. Every time somebody in an /out/ thread asks about multitools, I tell them to spend the money on a damn Wave. Anything less than that has disapponted me because shitty Chinese metal and it’s not worth using if you need to unfold the pliers and then break a fingernail just to access the knife. And the larger Supertool things become so bulky and heavy that you don’t want to carry them on the daily. Also Leatherman’s flat screwdriver bits aren’t perfect, but they’re far more useful than most multitool screwdrivers.
>>2882286>>2882285>>2882281Gerber MP600 or whatever the model number is with the blunt tipped pliers is the best ever made IMHO. Full size pliers head is out with a quick flick. I like the older ones with the integrated wire cutter instead of the inserts. The crappy carbide wire cutter inserts can be swapped out with high speed steel inserts for better performance, but I still prefer the old ones. Unfortunately I don't think they produce any of them without the insert cutters anymore...
>>2881796>>2882281>>2882285>>2882286>>2882288TBF here, when I was in the Army basically all of us had a Gerber or Leatherman plus a proper pocket knife. Having a multitool in the moment when you need to do something that needs one of the tools is always better than needing the toolbox 20 miles away.
>>2882286I had the Gerber Legend, but similar reasoning that you don't need to open the pliers to get at the handle tools.
>>2865174dewalt miter saw. its 0* mark is not true 0.
>>2882556>I didn't know my power tools have calibration setup you need to do once it's out of the box!
>>2882567lol ive been trying to calibrate this thing for 3 years. the thing is simply off and wont cut a clean joint. face it dewalt isnt what it used to be.
>>2865174huh, I was thinking about buying an immersion blender but why not get one of these instead? if I can fit some kind of blender spindle in the chuck that is
that's a real tough call. the butane soldering iron that leaks gas? the rotary tool that can't cut anything? every ratcheting screwdriver ever?
>>2882700Dude I hate ratcheting screwdrivers...>UntilWife got a Kobalt on sale at lowes for $5. >initially pissed at wasted $5Bro.. That thing is really good. Had her buy another for $5 to have in the shop its so good.
>>2875721this is a joke right?
>>2866624Why are you fuckers infecting every board when there's a special one made for you?
>>2882715>bumps to seethe about a 2 month old post that would have otherwise gone unnoticed>adds nothing to the conversation>in a USELESS TOOL threadabsolute pottery >>2865174to stay on topic, i was utterly disappointed by the m12 hackzall. the stoke length is too short compared to the m18 so it cuts way to slow
>>2882608Weird, literally just put edge bands precisely miter cut around a sheet of plywood using a dewalt 12" slider. Sounds like a skill issue.
>>2882621Don't, keep your kitchen and woodworking tools separate.
>>2882608>>2882740multiple people complaining ITT about miter saws, they're pretty simple tools. Get a square and check the cut pieces while fiddling with adjustments until they match.
>>2882701https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=845HUaWYSQAThere's some great ones now. The PB Swiss is fuckass expensive but tough, Megapro's is pretty good, and the Linus Tech Tips evolution of it is excellent for IT work.
>>2867641Same, but I'm not broken up about it. Dicking around with a janky router really isn't something I'd like to do, and it's a good core tool to have around even if I don't do too much with wood.
>>2877837Yeah all those suck. You already have pliers and wrenches for most of its "uses", and that basically leaves drain removal. It fails at drain removal though because chances are it will deform or snap the crossbars and you'll really need this lil nigga.
>>2882744I’ve always been meh on ratcheting screwdrivers after having a handful of shitty ones in the past, but this Vessel might change my opinion. I had a couple of Ballgrip + drivers in the past, and it might be my favorite screwdriver handle. Plus this thing has a grip right under the yellow selector that you can spin with your thumb and forefinger. And the ball part comes off and turns into a ratcheting stubby driver. We’ll see how it works out. If I like it, I’ll try the Anex next for a similar handle shape.As for useless tools, I just got this chip lifter. I did not know chiplifters were a thing until one day my autist ass watched a video from that “Last Best Tool” collector guy who talks about how well all his unused tools work when he doesn’t use them. He was like “Everybody should have a chip lifter!” and I’m like “For $8, why not?”Now I’m looking at the thing and have no clue what to do with it.
I’ll get banned because it’s a blue board. But turns out size does matter when you’re 3” for mast.
>>2882936Stubbies have their place. You don’t always want to go so deep
>>2865363You must be lost, no karma here, faggot.
>>28780470,25mm is a shitton if you have to drill small holes into metal.
>>2874229My old boss’s shop had that same piece of shit. The rack decided it would rather be a bent piece of chinesium shit and it bent itself and broke off. Garbage.
>>2882217dremel is fucking shit tier, ive managed to kill 2 of them doing sheet metal, I will kick everry single one of you in the dick for defending their products.
>>2883127My ol’ Dremel is biting the dust too. 1/3 of the motor is dead spots. I prefer their consumables when they’re on sale, but I’m probably going to replace it with a cheap one because they’re all bound to burn up anyway and even the $20 versions have a motor with the same power and the threaded nose cone part that will accept all my Dremel(tm) accessories.
Why don't more people use foredom style flexible shaft grinders instead of stupid dremels?
>>2883228cost, size, portability, availability, etc. most people aren't using dremel in a production/manufacturing setting with stationary rotary tools, and one has to really use rotary tools enough to justify setting up a foredom style flexible shaft rotary at the workbench.
>>2882940Picrel is better in every way
>>2883252Nah they’re useful in different cases. The ratchets are for places you can’t fit a stubby, but stubby is preferable in a lot of cases because the ratchets are awkward with a PH bit that’s trying to cam out and you need to try and squeeze a finger in there to keep pressure on it.
>>2883291If you can't get a finger in there then you can't get a stubby in either. And if you're near the limit of being able to fit a stubby then you're not going to be able to put much pressure on it, where as you'll have plenty of space to press down on a ratchet. As well as that you won't be constantly releasing and repositioning your grip and tiring out your forearm.
>>2883294Doesn’t sound like you have used much of either. Never seen somebody want to use a micro ratchet on something where a stubby + hand would fit and it’s not some overtightened T-30 or something.The little bit ratchets are for when there’s like 2” clearance and not much room to swing a handle. Stubby screwdrivers are for spots where you don’t have 10”-12”+ for a full size screwdriver. You could fit a full 3/8” ratchet with a bit socket in most of the places a stubby driver would fit, and it would be less awkward to handle than the tiny bit ratchets, but people don’t do it because screwdrivers are typically faster on screws than a ratchet and you don’t need to swing a handle 1/3 of a turn like 90 times to remove a screw.
>>2883295I've used both plenty. The thing is I only use the stubby because it's small to carry around, not because it can fit in smaller places. If there's enough room to get a decent grip on a stubby then a lot of the time there's room for a normal sized screwdriver. If there isn't then I'm going to be grabbing and twisting the stubby like a motorbike throttle and that's just not ergonomic, and in that case I would rather use a ratchet (micro bit ratchet or full size) so I can put downwards pressure with one hand and apply some decent torque with the other.Speaking of motorcycles removing some plastic panels on mine is a situation where the bit ratchet works very well. There's a space where a stubby will only just fit but there's not enough room to get a full secure grip on it, but the ratchet has plenty of room.
>>2883297You’re talking about mechanic stuff. Of course ratchets are going to be useful in plenty of spots there when you’re fucking around with metal on metal bolts. Not a wood screw in a cabinet or something. Two different tools for different jobs. Ratchets are tight quarters where more torque is required. Stubby screwdrivers are for all the situations where you would use a normal screwdriver but the 10” OAL of a normal driver isn’t ideal. It’s not the same type of tight quarters. The bit ratchet is going to be slower in a spot where you have room for the stubby.
>>2883306The panel on my bike is a "wood" screw into plastic, no different than one in a cabinet or whatever. The bit ratchet is much quicker to use than even my ratcheting stubby and more comfortable. There isn't the room to get a normal grip on the stubby where my arm is inline with the driver so I'm having to flex my wrist instead which is both slow and unergonomic. With the bit ratchet I just use one hand to apply pressure and with the other I flick the handle back and forth with my thumb and finger like I'm jerking off a micropenis. Other than this specific situation I've been in many others where I can't get a straight shot with a screwdriver, stubby or otherwise, and it really fucks up the forearms when you can't twist the driver in the normal way.
>>2883308Then that’s a specific tight spot where you would use the bit ratchet because there’s no room to use a stubby screwdriver. That’s why the bit ratchets exist. They do a good job in those super tight spots, stubby drivers fit well in spots where you can fit your hand to spin it but there’s not 12” beyond the screw for a full size screwdriver, and then regular screwdrivers when you have the space.The original post was >>2883252 which is retarded because nobody is going to use a bit ratchet if a regular screwdriver or stubby screwdriver would work. It’s different levels of how confined the space is and what tool fits in there, and as you go to the more specialized confined space tools, you’re trading off the speed of the regular or stubby driver for the compactness of the bit ratchet.
>>2879594I saw that tool at the obgyn office!
>>2883366My point is that there's very few situations where a stubby driver will fit but a regular size one won't and you can still get a straight grip on the driver, because your arm is pretty much inline with the driver. If there's no room to have your arm straight then you're stuck gripping the driver at 90° and flexing your wrist, which as I said is ergonomically poor and slow and a bit ratchet will be more comfortable and quicker.
>>2883391I’ve run into it plenty of times. I always grab a stubby + and - when I go to do oil changes on the wife’s car because of all the fasteners on the splash guards. If I have the car on ramps, I could use a full size driver but it’s a pain to move it around under there, and height of the creeper plus the width of my body doesn’t leave much room for a full length screwdriver between me and the underside of the car. A ratchet would take forever on all those screws and a stubby works great
>>2883439I can guarantee you I can zip a screw out faster with a bit ratchet than a stubby driver, especially a non-ratcheting one. The only downside is it requires two hands. Also if there's enough space for you to get under the car then there's enough space for a short impact driver that would make an even quicker job of it.
>>2883455>The only downside is it requires two handsWait, so now you’re in a spot where a screwdriver won’t fit, so you need to get a bit ratchet, but you need to fit 2 hands in there?I’ll use the damn impact at that point!There’s a reason the only place people use those bit drivers is when there’s no room for any other tool.
>>2883519Well it's not like your hands would need to be fists, one on top of the other like your jerking off a big hog. You need the space to get one finger on the back of the ratchet head to apply pressure and then the other hand is out to the side working the handle. Doesn't require much room at all.
Lie Nielsen low angle bench plane, dulls after hitting two knots and tears out like crazy
>>2883252i want to live a full life without ever having a ratcheting phillips head
>>2883673That’s what the issue is when you get into those retarded spots and you need a good amount of force pushing the thing down to keep it from camming out.Which is why I don’t know why anon would say they’re better than a stubby in every way, but nobody uses those bit drivers unless it’s a stupid tight spot where no other tool will fit, including a stubby driver.
>>2883686i still think the ratcheting screwdrivers are for nerds, I wasnt fucking ready for full-blast retarded fuckin whatever the fuck this shit is.
>>2883686You absolutely can use a finger to push down an appropriate amount of torque. I'm a service electrician and I threw away all my stubbies in favour of that tiny ratchet. Never once have I found a situation where a stubby would've served me better, and I'm in a situation where I have to pull out my 4" weekly
>>2883686>That’s what the issue is when you get into those retarded spots and you need a good amount of force pushing the thing down to keep it from camming out.If you use the correct bit you don't really need all that much force, and you can apply that force easily with a second hand. If you can fit a stubby driver in there then you can fit your hand.>Which is why I don’t know why anon would say they’re better than a stubby in every wayNot in every way no. There are times when I would much rather use a stubby than the bit ratchet, but most of those times are where a regular sized driver would also do the job.
>>2883696You’re missing the point that there are tons of spots you can easily fit your hand and work a stubby but the long drivers don’t fit. Any time you’re in cabinets or messing with wooden furniture and bookshelves and such, there’s a good chance there’s some screws you want to hit that don’t have a foot behind them.>>2883691They’re a lifesaver for a lot of fasteners in automotive applications where you need to get a small hex/torx/PH bolt or screw out of a confined space. I had to use one on a clutch master cylinder recently, the little bolts that hold it to the firewall, the one on top had like an inch and a half of clearance between the baseplate with the holes that the screws go through and the reservoir or some shit. I also had to use it on one of those glass doors for a business recently, the frame of the door is like 2”x2” aluminum square tubing and the hinges were held on by screws that go from the inside of the square tubing and the threads are on the hinge. Think of them like taking a 1”L insert bit for a screwdriver and sticking it in a 1/4” ratcheting wrench.
>>2883730If you're inside a cabinet and it's so tight that you can't fit a regular driver then you won't be able to get your forearm inline with a stubby driver. As I've said this means you're having to grip it at a 90° and flexing your wrist to turn the driver. If it's just one or two screws in pilot drilled holes then fine, but do it multiple times or need to apply some serious torque and unless you have forearms like a chimp you're going to be aching.
>>2883695>I'm a service electrician and I threw away all my stubbies in favour of that tiny ratchet.Are you me? It's probably my most used tool. Pic related but I cut extra holes in the foam case to fit a 7 and 8mm socket for hose clamps.My biggest issue is accidentally snapping off screws.
>>2883765>and 8mm socket for hose clamps.why carry an extra socket?
>>2883730>screw out of a confined spacesounds like you should sell your car.
never even used these once, i always grab the torque wrench instead
not so much disappointing, but I expected a 3 plane laser to be life-changing, but it just makes things slightly faster, now I'm wondering whether I should return it within the 90 day window or keep it and give it further chance. I got it for quite a bit under the normal price (the m12 3 plane laser), paid 585 CAD for the laser, battery, case, etc. plus free tripod, then returned the tripod and ended up $500 CAD + tax, which is like $350 USD now. I do have M18 tools and bosch 18v tools, but no M12 tools other than this.
>>2865174Dremel 4000. I thought I would use it all the time, however I pull it out maybe once a year, the rest of the time it lives in its case.
>>2883740Nah, there’s a wide range of areas where a 3” long stubby is perfectly comfortable to use but a 12” long driver is real awkward. Is also about control of the thing.>>2883840Or crash it for insurance money>>2883868These are only worth it for tire shops and stuff. Nobody reads the directions. When you get them, you have to calibrate them to your ugga dugga, so you’re supposed to test them against a torque wrench and make a note of which impact gun and what air pressure you need to have the regulator at and stick with that every single time.
>>2883904>Or crash it for insurance moneydad told me about this coworker nig who got upside down on a car lot murano and didnt realize it was a complete rust ball from up northand he fucking hospitalized himself crashing into a tree at what he claimed was 50mph in an attempt to cut his losses.
>>2883868I fuckin love torque sticks for lug nuts! Ugga dugga motherfucker!
>>2883868those are not common to se in my country, do they work properly?
>>2886075They are gud enough for tire shops and stuff have to be used with air impacts don't know the science behind that part.
The ryobi oscillating tool. The switch on it is garbage. It became almost impossible to switch on after using it to cut some drywall. I took it apart and cleaned it which helped but it still gives me trouble almost every time I use it.
>>2882217>Hilti and Festool not in Godlike tier
>>2886199>>Hilti and Festool not in Godlike tier>Bosch and Dremel being anywhere above poverty tier...
>>2886273Anon pls. This is settled. It is fact. Dremel is #1.And Kobalt would surely be up there if we did hand tools!
>>2886277Kobalt flex ratchet sucks dick, switch kept falling out, husky is gud
>>2865744noob
>>2882608>been trying to calibrate the thing for 3 yearsWhat? How long does it hold calibration? Or you can’t get it set up at all? If you can’t figure out how to adjust something like a miter saw after 3 years…. Damn.
>>2883291>the toolfag doesn’t have a super mini deluxe to show offPleb
>>2887472Check out this little babby nano roto heas bit ratchet! Even came with a super stubby PH1 and PH2 bit!I’m thinkin about those half cut bits, the VIM set is cool but like $120. Tempted to get another $9 100pc security bit set from Harbor Freight and go to work with the bench grinder.
>>2887472Also that Gearwrench is a super mini deluxe, and that big black set, stick those bitches in an 8mm-12mm-14mm wrench and those are super mini deluxe
>>2868307>>2865989this is extremely useful, YOU personally just don't have a job where it is.I use this all the time when working on wood pieces that don't physically fit under the drill press, like a guitar body for example.>>2883667This is probably my number 2 right here.Almost any bench plane I have used even when set by a professional because I thought I was fucking retarded ended up being a huge waste of money.I can see why we left this tech behind first chance we got.Did it get the job done in ye olden days? Sure.Was it the ultimate pain in the ass to get said job done? yes.>>2865174Egg beater drill.I thought I'd use it a lot more. I want to use it a lot more.I never use it period.I restored it, sanded the rust, repainted and oiled it, got all the bits.Just sits on a shelf fucking judging me.>pilot holesNever needed, I just use my punch pen which dips just enough to get a really good threading direction and drill.
>>2887506reccs for punch pin, are chinesiums good enough?
>>2887574I've got this one, works great. Punch on one end, nail set on the other.https://www.rockler.com/spring-tool-set
>>2887485>that set IS a super mini deluxeIt’s an inferior knockoff. I’m all for using the cheap option when it does the job just as well, but let’s not convince ourselves doing so is super… let alone deluxe.
>>2867956>i have rsi/tendonitis from working with my hands my whole life and they go numb if i use them too muchA VERY common health issue for workers who work with vibrating tools!>>2867985>same. didn't take my whole life to get there thoI've seen people who are less than 40 have this. They started young in construction, maybe at 17, then did a specific job with heavy vibration for 20 years non-stop.Whatever it fucked up, it fucked up good. They have serious issues with it now. These days they don't recommend - or even have laws against - working too much with tools with strong vibration.
>>2865350should have got a North Bros. Yankee no 1530 for that double action racheting power.
>>2871646
If fun for me, but my girl friends will say without a doubt I need a bigger wallet.
>>2888027You can't hook that up to a sander or other power tool's dust port, suck up drywall dust from carpet, or not be putting a bunch of dust back in the air.
>>2865174This piece of shit looks absolutely top notch; it's absolute shit.
>>2889228>Flashy knockoff of the King
>>2883295you use stubby drivers are for when you need to put all your body weight onto a stripped screw so the bit doesnt skip
>>2889233Not really; that one had 180 bits/whv, though some repeats.Sadly, they're made of butter.
>>2889235Use them all the time, regardless...Why use a long driver, when a short one does the job equally if not better?
>>2889233Btw, i recognize the ceramic reverted tweezers
>>2889236Who cares if it has "more" bits if half of them are useless and they're that badly made?
>>2889243It's nylon non-marring tips.
>>2889244Are you fucking dtupud or what?Read op title, retard...>UselessTo whom?>BadI'm the one who told you that, remember? Guess what happened to them, dumbass...Btw, who cares if you bought some overpriced chink shit just because it's got a meme brand name printed in it?>>2889245Whatever; countless variations of the same things.
>>2887506>almost any kind of bench planeAre you saying ALL hand planes are inferior and should be left in the past, or just the low angle ones? Because the former is definitely a take I would strongly disagree with. What kind of woodworking are you doing where you’re not reaching for a bench plane occasionally? I could understand not wanting to use it for jointing boards or something in our modern times… but for general use?!? A bad buy?!? Blasphemy
>>2886138>the switch on it is garbageThat’s surprising to hear. I’ve used one a little and felt like the trigger was the best part about that tool. Much better than the actual on/off switches cheaper multitools normally have. I feel like that’s why all the better pricier ones go for a trigger or paddle. Maybe you just got a lemon trigger? Or maybe I really lucked out?
>>2889228>>2889233Those precision bit assortments are a real catch-22. Like you want to have a million of them for a good price to cover every stupid proprietary screw, but only see the screws once every couple years so not trying to spend $300 on the big Wiha assortment, and the cheap Chinesium normally works for that stuff as long as you don’t require tons of precision and durability but…That new-ish Klein set is straight except they used a non-standard hex drive. I got a Hyper Tough set last time because I needed the little suction cup and a different penta lobe driver, however the spudger was the worst type of plastic. This little Vessel kit is pretty satisfying from the unboxing, and the driver will hold the Hyper Tough bits.
>>2889297"Made in China" can depend a lot on how hard the contracting company is watching the factory and supply line, and iFixit uses their own brand tools in-house for teardowns. They also use standard 4mm drive bits made of a solid quality steel. Plus the full Pro Tech Toolkit's only $75, or you can just get the 64-piece driver set with a parts tray for $40.
>>2889299I need more of em to take a close up pic and see. Like picrel, the top is some T-15 or T-20 drivers and tells you a whole lot about how much the factories are concerned with precision. The left one is generic Chinesium aka Ironton from Northern Tool. Middle is USA Craftsman from around 2000, right is Wiha.
>>2889297>>2889303On the left, from an old 32 bit set; on the right, from this >>2889228 claimed "CR-V+S2 HRC52" brand spanking new set, after a single use (>>2889236 not even stuck, just a tight screw); they're both chinese.
>>2889312Wew that’s rough. I very much take “S2” on Chinesium with a grain of salt. The Craftsman may not be machined great, but steel forged in the US tends to be a little bitter than that.Tangentially related, I have this one set of Craftsman 1” bits that have been around fucking forever and I never really used them. No clue which factory made them, they’re not some of that “Craftsman Professional” as far as I can tell because lots of that was rebranded tool truck Armstrong type stuff, but this specific bit set was on par with the German premium stuff… from the same brand that sold me the middle torx here >>2889303
>>2889314Yeah, really wasn't expecting it to be that bad quality (or even bad at all), because the overall presentation and feel is really high quality, and also because the old set is pretty much indestructible, but there you go...Anyway, they took it back at their expense, so (though I'm still to get the refund, and that's another can of worms; latest trick is to claim you haven't proven you sent the actual item, then deny you refund)...
>>2865174anything dewalt
>>2887468it'll calibrate to zero, with a lot of effort, but it loses it pretty much immediately. get a handful of clean cuts but it walks a cunt hair to the right each time you move it until you start getting sloppy cuts. maxes out at like a quarter degree. only happens on 0 too, other angles cuts are decent.
that milwaukee circuit breaker finder. Absolute piece of dogshit hardware that barely fucking works. I thought Id be able to trivialize labeling my breaker panel>>2868361>6'5"thats two measurements XD
>>2882742Cellulose from sawdust is harmless to consume.
This thing. Not because it's bad or anything but because there are absolutely no stanley tools here and the battery is not interchangable with dewalt.
>>2889428Those are yellow Craftsman V20 tools.
>>2889325So then it sounds like the issue is the positive stop at 0deg. What does the locking mechanism look like? How does it work? Are you sure you don’t just have a wonky locking bolt? Are you using the positive stop at all or trying to force it to lock down according to the tick marks? >with alot of effortWhat does that mean?
>>2865194I saw cheap one of this on Ali express, I decided against it thinking it's just not all that practical for my needs
