/btg/ BOOT GENERAL - CHUKKA SEASON EDITIONWhat do I need to care for my boots?>Old cotton t shirt (one for cleaning, another for applying conditioners)>Horsehair brush ($10-15)>Wooden shoe trees ($10-15)>Light conditioner like Lexol/Bck4/renovateur>Heavy conditioner (if you live in terrible snow/rain areas) Sno seal/Obernauf LP>Don't forget that boots need time to dry properly, rotate them and rest themHow do I deal with x stain?>mud: allow it to dry then brush off>salt: water and cloth as soon as possible>saturated wet: allow the boot to dry for a full day, stuff with newspaper>scuffs and scratches: buff vigorously with horsehair brush>Should I buy turdsdays/soloshits/doc shitans?No they are filled with synthetic materials aimed at instant comfort but will not hold up to actual use.>b-b-but muh ecelebs on youtube said they're goodno. you will waste your time and money and still have uncomfortable footwear at the end of the day. spend the extra $100 and get something real.Manufacturer Red Flags>Luxury>Bespoke>Sustainable>Vegan>Unknown leather source>Made in Chyna/Mexico/IndonesiaBoot Red Flags>Dainite (Get vibram v-bar instead)>C*rk/C*lastic>Zippers>Non gusseted tongues>Excessive/unnecessary seams>Combination/mixed material heelsBoot Brands NO>Turdsdays>Doc Shitters/Soloshitters>any Whatsapp makers in the far eastPREVIOUS>>18125041
*chelsea season edition
Chelsea boots are for women.
OP HAD ONE JOB.IT'S CHUKKA SEASON NOW, ASSHOLES.
porkhurst looks too euro nowwaiting on the stichdowns
>Boot Brands NO>>TurdsdaysOops.
This place is still selling Smoke jumpers for $575https://hoffmanboots.com/product/10-whites-400-v-wildland-boot/
>>18136503Why are docs and solovair so bad? They look the coolest
>>18136668>shitty plastic coated leather>no shank plus soft sole means no support
>>18136672Its not all plastic coatedAnd just get good insoles
>>18136690lol, lmao evenno solid foundation means whatever you tack on is a shit solution
>>18136692Better than looking like shit
>>18136550still need a chukka, still not sure what to get though.
>>18136668They're not. Drs are overpriced though.>No shank in DrsGood
can someone redpill me on cowboy boots? I see the ecelebs like rose anvil on YouTube shilling chisos but lol $600 for a made in Mexico bootAre tony lamas made in USA better? How do you even tell what the best products are?
>>18136874Are solovairs worth 150 when i can get docs for like 80?
>>18136928Bookbinder leather no the grain or greasy yeah.
Skoak GMTOs for June includes an interesting American style boot - goodyear welted in Spain400€ plus VAT
>>18137224Pre-order for our brand new Western boot style 'Carson'. We wanted to make a classic Western boot but still keep our DNA in the aesthetics of the last. So we developed our new W last that is less pointy and with a lower toe spring compared to what you often see in these styles. Crafted in mid brown Italian Bovine leather which is soft but sturdy and will develop a nice patina over the years. 3.5 cm Cuban heel with rubber heel top layer. Goodyear welted single leather sole. Style reference 18886.The deposit on Löf & Tung GMTOs is 100% to avoid added shipping fees at check out. Goodyear weltedSingle leather sole3.5 cm Cuban heelItalian bovine leatherFully leather linedW lastMade in Spain
>>18137224I might hit those oxfordsSlap a topy on them and it's good to go
>>18137225back looks a little too straight
Doc martens but based.
Are these too formal looking for t shirts and jeans in the summer
>>18137570no?
>>18137570yes, these can only be worn with a tuxedo and top hat when saturn is in retrograde
>>18137570>Are these too formal looking for t shirts and jeans in the summernoby modern standards?yes
anyone got any idea what these boots are? it's from this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fz1H0UtasGk
>>18137661common projects knockoff?
should i buy guidis?
>>18136668if you like the look then just buy them and let others seetheif youre buying them for good quality dont
>>18137829If you can afford them and you like them, sure.
>>18137829no they look like women's boots
>>18137225>gyw instead of pegs>no toe bug
>>18137829No. Not because of muh quality or something, but because those boots could only look appropiate with a certain aesthetic. And you don't have the wardrobe matching that aesthetic because otherwise you would have bought them already without asking for opinions.
>>18137829If you have the wardrobe to support them
>>18137904>>18137906>you don't have the wardrobe matching that aestheticwhat? a teenage goth chick from the 00s? Nah, brah just buy some top shelf engineers and thank me later
>>18137802that's what i initially thought but i can't find any CP's that are that tall/longstill looking, surely some anon out there has seen these?
>>18137570lmao walking poop
I have made some unwise financial decisions.
>>18138091Lets see them
>>18137908>what? a teenage goth chick from the 00s? Basically yes, but more expensive.>Nah, brah just buy some top shelf engineers and thank me laterNo argument here, that's the superior choice
>>18137903American boots require pegging?The European mind will never comprehend this.
>>18138091spill the beans
>>18137449I have these but in Whiskey.Had them for a little over a year.If I could've waited I would've bought the bronze or now "caramel" lighter brown, but overall it's a nice brown.The only other last that I have no issues fitting into is the trubalance, so this Cheaney 142 is a nice find for me and my fucking feet. Long break in, but I didn't wear them all the time so it took a while, longer than any Alden that's for sure so you can be sure the materials aren't substandard, like alden.
>oh hey whites makes belts now>that would be a good fathers day gift>$100he ain't worth that much
>>18138226seems to be the same price as equivalent CXL belts everywhere else
>>18138226Better to do a workshop and make the belt with him
>>18138121>American boots require pegging?And cucking
w2c these boots?
>>18138297First result on Google has the link
>>18138297paraboot
>>18138302thats the blog I got it from, didn't see them in the shopping links
>>18138306Dang
>>18137829does guidi pre-crease their boots?
>>18138254Hell no
>>18138091Confess
>>18138297grant stone brass boot
>>18138434i think we have a winner, very similar in the style i wanted! https://www.grantstoneshoes.com/products/brass-boot-garnet-shell-cordovanthank you!
>>18138496
How do I get this stain out?
>>18138974it's the exact opposite of a stain, pigment got out of the leather, instead of a stain going inyou need to use a pigmented cream, saphir creme 1925 is the besti can't tell you which color you need exactly from just a picture, (probably hazelnut) but you go darker than the color of the leather, the broguing and medallion will make it pretty easy to blend inalso you could just polish the whole toe in a darker brown wax, which most dress shoe guys do anyway
>>18139004The bouts are like a honey color so based on what I see available from saphir the cognac looks to be the closest.What should I use to actually polish it in, like a tooth brush, paper towel, micro fiber towel?
Nvm I ordered the saphir cognac and some horse hair brush set on Amazon.Hopefully this works.Thanks for the help
>>18138974what is the stain from?
>>18137449i want a boot that looks exactly like that but brown can i get something like this in europe for ~$200
>>18139050No idea honestly. I got these things probably 10 years ago and only ever wore them a handful of times.I chucked them in my closet and pulled them out the other day and saw a huge discoloration.Probably something alcohol based or another chemical dripped on it.Maybe something spilled on it when I was wearing them I genuinely don’t know but I don’t want to buy another pair of Goodyear welted shoes if I don’t have to.
>>18139023I use old socks or underwear. Just a cloth. No need to buy all the ridiculous paraphernalia like those little brushes like some leddit tryhard.
>Baker's sneakers are back this time with CF Steadsick
if you ever needed convincing that indonesia is shit and a total scamretard buys 6+ pairs of indonesian boots after straight disappointments, another sagara this time, RTW basic bitch boondocker, sized up from the previous pair, still shit fit in the last, says it's somehow the best one>These came to about $540 with shipping>They are just a tad bit too small, and combined with the sneaky taper of the Morgan last, are not my favorite pair.>if they could add a little more lateral room in the toebox, that would be great>(Fit) Probably the best out of any ID maker that I’ve tried, however I’ve often felt that ID lasts are basic and if you’ve ever tried a high quality last, then these leave a lot to be desired.>the facings are just way too long and overlap.>The second issue is their use of a double or overly chunky midsole. I’m not sure why most ID makers do this by default but I really wish they would stop. They are ensuring that the sole never truly becomes flexible like it should, and these boots are downright stiff as a board.>As it stands, these are just another average pair in a sea of average ID brands.>My ranking order would be: Brisleblack > Sagara >>>>>>>> >>>>>>Jakkrabbits > >>>> Fortis>Fortis screwed up my boots TWICE, ignored my requests to make adjustments after the first screw up, ghosted me for 3 months because he couldn’t get the sole in, then after the replacement pair was made they waited 6 weeks before mailing out. I will buy shoes from Walmart before I ever make a purchase with Fortis again.>Every single one of my ID orders has run late by over 1 or 2 months from the promised delivery date. And then there are QC issues, miscommunication issues, etc.TLDR the last is shit with no toe room, the pattern is shit, the double midsole is shit, ordering process is shit, communication is shit, you get ghosted and QC issueswe all knew that already, but it's always nice to hear it straight from the horse's mouth
>>18139403the midsole
>>18139403i think indog boots can look interesting and they get some cool leathers to pair with their styles, but i'd never purchase a pair. the risk of bad fit/qc is too high. i don't know why you'd get such a basic looking pair like those from them too when the whole appeal, to me at least, is the more unconventional designs. everyone makes a boondocker or service boot and saving a couple hundred bucks while risking getting a bad quality boot seems dumb.
>>18139422really all indo/china makers that are any good and possess some skill have prices $1k starting now and are completely booked out for years in advance, unless you are an influencer or suck the dick of oneand even after dropping that kind of money you still have to deal with all the communication BS and QC isn't guaranteedbetter to stay away completely instead of wiring thousands into the jungle blindly
>>18139403the patern is down to Asians having high insteps. it's why grant stones chyna pattern makers make the quarters so big despite half of the pics on the feet of western customers have the tops almost touching at the right sizeIndonesia is a fucking wash though. never buy boots on WhatsApp
>>18139403
>>18139403>>18139422i buy ID boots from time to time, not as much anymore because they aren't very good value now. Winson/Midas are by miles the best I've tried. Renav was OK.
>>18138297heschung
>>18139874
>>18139874I don't know what their quality is like since they stopped production in strasbourg and shifted to portugal, romania, china or wherever the fuck cheaposville.
>>18138974First brush them with a soft brush. Afterwards wipe them of woth a damp cloth. Then apply some Saphir renovateur. Afterwards polish them with a pigmented cream, again Saphir is the recommended brand. Your local cobbler can help you select the right color.
>>18139986Says it is still made in Steinbourg, France
For some reason I find these really cool looking.
>>18140349
>>18140349>>18140352japanese bespoke? I do love my dovers, best shoes i've got.
>>18140415
>>18137829Backzips? Yes.Ignore replies saying you need a specific wardrobe, I wear mine with slim/straight denim and hoodies or basic jackets. It's easiest with a dark/minimal closet but unless you have cropped pants, no one can really tell they're anything but just normal round toe boots.
>>18140427>anon why are your boots so wrinkled
>>18140428>no one can really tell they're anything but just normal round toe boots.did you read? A. I have never in 3 years been asked that question B. who cares?
>>18140415These are ACME
Thinking of buying Clarks Desert Boots. There's like a million different variations floating around, some of which you can get for practically nothing. Should I avoid those or are they all pretty much the same? All I could really find comparing Desert Boots and Bushacres is that maybe the soles and linings are different.
>>18140574it's all practically all the same boot, the difference is just the materials and if you care enough to upgradethe more expensive made in italy desert boot is better made in almost every way, the lining is better, the stitchdown is tighter, the leathers are cf stead or italian pull-up, the crepe sole is real natural rubberthe cheaper mystery meat leather made in vietnam/india ones usually end up looking like a formless suede sock
ayylmao
>>18140574>>18140639>soleI own the jcrew mcallisters (made in italy) from a few years ago... it is more comfortable than clarks, which I find horribly stiff, but still stiff enough that i have to wear inserts... glad I only paid like ~$50 for it. The suede held up great though.
Old Bally chukkas trodding springtime Paris
>>18140671nigs, where every employee has completely given up>the lasting is absolutely fucked up>the tongue is a frayed mess>the stitching was done by a blind person>the second eyelet has a giant burr>the edge trim was done by another blind person>the QC depratament was too busy posting on reddit and let all this through
>>18140671my grant stones dont do this
>>18140671This is why we need more companies using PNW materials with European sense of style and last making heritage. Viberg is the only one that comes close.
>>18140671all the good qc inspectors went to the brandle boots. just spend $1200 and you can have a basic service boot that meets other brands' bare minimum for qc.
>>18136668They're not, this general is just a microcosm of of the peak reddit stomp-clamp-hey era hurr durr muh premium buy it for life products! muh shank! as if these fuckers walk more than 3k steps a day.Only reason I avoid solovair is that it's annoying to return defective products whereas most cities have a docs store.Just>don't buy brand new (overpriced)>avoid smooth leather (cracks easily / extremely hard to break in)Then they're absolutely fine, I have a pair of the nappa 1460s that have been going strong through years of bartending / events work.
>>18140709>This is why we need more companies using PNW materials with European sense of style and last making heritage.I think the Nigs Parkhurst collab captures that.
>>18140476I might try out one of those chinese shoemakers one day, already have a pair from Ironboots and they have been fantastic.
>>18141013where is the midsole?
Bought some Solivare 8 eye black greasy steel toe. Waiting for them to customs. Needed something for work that I can abuse a little. I bought some of their steel toe shoes and just love them.
>>18141013>companies have started selling 3rds
>>18141080Iron Rangers don't have a midsole. Those look a bit wonky regardless.
>>18140714The proportions on these are whack af
Anyone pick up the new Parkhursts
>>18140714fuckin daffy duck lookin ass boot
new porkhurstnew 618 last stitchdowns
>>18141421more like parkWHO
>>18141426looks ok, are those made in spain? Never seen that style of stitchdown by a spanish factory.
i think they look great but too pointy for me personallyi was hoping the stichdowns were going to be more on the rugged side compared to the 602gyws>>18141435>are those made in spain?id assume so but i dont see it stated anywhere on the site
>>18141438>uppers actually flared out 270 degreesholy shit!
>>18139422>i think indog boots can look interestingThat is a 100% clone of an old Ralph Lauren purple label boot
>>18141502hopefully without that ugly fake 270 degree norvegese welt
>>18140671I was so focused on how shitty that last looks I didn't even notice the fucked up alignment.
>>18141013Speedhooks or eyelets, now you can choose with Red Wing's new "Finish it Yourself" line!
>>18141426i like the last, but why stitchdown?also i hate how they modified the pattern for this>extend the vamp>make the heel counter tinyall that so they still mostly have the same factory workflow as 270 GYW past doing the inner row stitch and so they don't have to nail down the waistshould have just stuck to GYW, instead of improvising
>>18141747Stitchdown on it is retarded imo. Veldtshoen would have made more sense and looked better.
>>18137225why not get a cowboy boot from an actual cowboy boot maker so you get the real thing, like mayura or sancho https://www.mayura.es/en/boots/mayura-boots-1920-fr-pull-grass-castano-393.html#/25-size-39here you go, same style of boot but better quality and a hundred euros cheaper
>>18141747the short counter cover is a spanish pattern thing. it's on some of the gyw models too. I don't like it either but it's likely down to what counters the factory can source
>>18141426Looks like the Spanish are smart enough to not actually stitch both stitches through the outsole unlike all the PNWtards. Canadians can, and now the Spanish have proven that they also can why can't Americans? What the hell is going on! >>18141438What's not rugged about them?
>>18141826>Looks like the Spanish are smart enough to not actually stitch both stitches through the outsole unlike all the PNWtardsi always thought the entire point of the double was to secure the midsole so that you can resole without fucking up the shape but theyre smoking something in the onw that made them think its a good idearugged probably isnt the word but i wanted them to look more casual that the regular allens
>>18141788the new stitchdown heel counter is even smaller
>>18138974just put some light brown polish on them and give them a good brushing. this is childs play shit
>>18138091me after spending 5k+ on boots and shoes (and selvedge denim) only to get tired of it all and never wear them
>>18141978Wow what a moron lmao
Fell for the 1/2 down meme for some ll bean mocs. Day one they hurt my ball of feet and toes. I have enough room ahead of my longest toe but it pinches the sides of my toes. Will mocs stretch out? Or should I go tts?
>>18141978Me being happy with my Soloshitters. They are so black. Looking forward to breaking them in at they look more natural.
>>18136503My boots
>>18141747If they think nailing is bullshit, they could just blake stitch the waist.Pegging is done with wood. Don’t see the Amtards even do that outside of cowboy boots.
>>18141754I don't think any spanish factories do veldtschoen, seems to be exclusively british bootmakers.
Should new boots be painful around the toes and ball of foot?
>>18142541How painful?
>>18142541No. But before you return it make sure the laces are properly tightened and it's not just your foot sliding forward that's causing it.
>>18142542Still painful after two weeks of wear. But I already have small bunions developing so It might be way it’s extra painful for me.>>18142545I thought it may be this. But when I’m walking there is no pain that I can feel. It’s when I sit down for a long period of time, that’s when it hurts my toes and ball of foot the most. So I think that isn’t because my foot is sliding in them?
>>18142541no nigga, find a last that gives you the toe room you deserve and still fits nice throughout the rest of your foot and in the heel
>>18142556I guess i’ll try a 1/2 size up. I’m exactly a 9.5D on a brannock without socks. With thick socks, i’m a little over a 9.5D. I bought these boots at 9.5D because everyone said to .5 down. I don’t get it? How does everyone else do it? Do they just suffer through this?Your toe box looks comfy.
>>18142556This is one of my comfiest shoes. But it's also in suede, I've never had a bad fit with suede.
>>18142564What boots/last?Picrel are nigs on the 55 last1/2 size down from my brannockthey’re a bit constricted for sureThe others I just posted are franks on their 1977 last (like whites 4811) and have way more vertical toe space and def don’t taper as much in the toe (I also got them a 1/2 size larger than the nigs so true to brannock size even tho frank says to go a 1/2 size below what you’d order on the 55 so really idt anyone knows wtf they’re talking about on sizing because I def don’t like footwear snug at the toes everyone’s different and advice that works for one doesn’t work for all, this ain’t the three musketeers
>>18142541Maybe after a long day wearing them, because the leather is still too stiff. If they hurt from the second you put them on, they're too small.
>>18142572Not sure what last but they’re Chippewa boots that I read online to size down 1/2 on. Pic rel looks like what I have. But they are painful at the toes. Especially at the end of the day. It’s not UNBEARABLE. But if it doesn’t stretch to fit with time, I can’t continue to wear them like this. I’ve worn them for probably 20hrs so far. And it hasn’t changed.
>>18142577They don’t hurt the second I put them on. They do feel uncomfortable while sitting down more than anything. And by the end of the day my toes are not happy.
>>18142556>>18142572What’s with American’s aversion to length? You need more of both toe clearance and width.
lololhttp://etsy.com/listing/1366054282/handmade-cockney-boots-10-eyelets-black
>>18142618They think elongated toe space makes the boot less "rugged" and all Americans dream about is being rugged.
>>18142633why would anyone bother handstitching the uppers like a retard, when there is a sewing machine right there in the backgroundlooks ghetto as fuck, like all leatherwork on etsy
>>18142572How did picrel feel out the box? Would you have sized differently given another chance?
>>18142738actually felt good out of the box, like more roomy than they do now even after i've stretched them so idki'd have gone a half size up at least for sure, but honestly not sure that would help all that much just due to the last shape and how the toe box narrows over some lasts just fit different based on your feet and not every foot/last is a good matchi'd guess for the 55 to feel good in the toes i'd end up look at the ball and/or heelwhereas the 1977 i've got the toe room and a nice snug/locked fit at the heel
What do you guys wear during the hot summer days?
>>18142764Linen boots
>>18142764Cute sandals
>>18142764yuketen handsewns
>loafers tip is so tight it hurts>oxfords tip is super tight even tho they feel a size too big in the rear of my footwhat are some dress shoes that actually arent designed to be torture devices?
>>18142820If you have unfashionably wide feet then bite the bullet and just buy barefoot shit, it looks ugly as sin but it's comfortable.
>>18142820>>18142843he just needs a combo last
>>18142843I’d rather kill myself
>>18142820People literally just suffer through it and eventually get older and develop bunions and wear hideous orthopedic shoes.
>>18142820You just need to explore actual leather sole'd dress shoes with a wider last and get protective soles put on by a local cobbler.I own about 22 pairs of Acemarks dress shoes. Companys had a rough go the last year or so but their leatherwork is prime. Just don't mind the website being a bit cluttered.The cool thing about them (the reason I got them) is because they have a printable width guide and that helped me a lot. Print the width and length guides and you can prevent this issue. But DO NOT buy Allen Edmonds, they have gone significantly down hill (even my cordovans had small imperfections)
>>18142236lesbian shoes
>>18142885>22 pairs of Acemarks dress shoes.What the fuck
>>18142843nah i just want a wider toebox, my toes arent arrow shaped and neither are anybody's elses unless they've been reshaped for years under those shoes
>22 pairs
>>18142885>finds a last that works>22 pairsBased lastmaxxer
>>18142812What’s the sizing on yuks to brannock if I plan on wearing them with casual socks? Not barefoot or thin dress socks. Any advice? Which did you get?
About one year ago i had 1 pair of sneakers and 1 pair of bootsNow i have thishow did i do bros?From top to bottom>Dress shoes>Sneakers>boots>Sandals, ergonomic wide toebox shoe, rainboots
>>18142675When you look back at dress shoes in the past, American dress shoes have plenty of toe space lengthwise.Am*rican got fatter yet manufacturers did not update their lasr
>>18142972>one pair of lace up bootsPATHETIC
>>18142986my boot row is in the bottomive been through hell on my trekking boots (middle) in my last job and they still feel great, even if they dont look that fashionable
>>18143013>fake welts and dmsanon..
>>18143015how can you tell a fake welt from a legit one?whats a dm btw?idk that much about boot construction but the trekking boots are the most expensive shoe i ever bought - 130€ newi dont think i spent more than 30€ in any of the other pairs
>>18143024>how can you tell a fake welt from a legit one?in your pick the colorleather isnt translucent and there are only a few brands brain damaged enough to use real plastic weltsdma is a direct molded sole but i use it for shorthand for dms and glued soles which the trekking boots have>i dont think i spent more than 30€ in any of the other pairsits over
>>18143024>idk that much about boot construction but the trekking boots are the most expensive shoe i ever bought - 130€mate i spend more on socks, get yourself a nice pair
>>18142915Is this not normal? I just thought thats how everyone buys their dress shoes once you find a last.I have stuff from other companies too in lasts but I don't like to risk it. Most recently i'm in love with Aureliens city loafers and seaside loafers (espadrilles) but my wide ass foot needs a 44.pic of my aurelien vest+ city loafers. Sorry for the lame ass angle i'm no good at selfies.
>>18143029oh, well ive used those trekking boots 10 hours a day for about a year and they worked perfectly, ive had them for about 4 years nowthey also have A Vibram sole whcih i heard is good>>18143032i will consider spending a lot of money if the shoe offers me a lot of value, which for me is comfort and durabilityi dont really need to buy more shoes at the moment anyway, and its summer so ill likely be using sandals or sneakers most days
>>18142900You know the foot isn't supposed to reach all the way to the tip, right?
>>18143324yes
>>18142820I'm just going to go bespoke. It's impossible otherwise.The exact manner of "bespoke" depends on how good things go financially over the next few months. I scoped out the English makers a few years ago but that's only if I do exceptionally well. There's also Japan which is more difficult to get into and as a last resort there's a few places in Hong Kong that'll do things relatively cheap that uses laser measurements. Not handwelted bespoke, but it'll suffice on a lower budget.I'm fed up. Best I can manage at the moment is a pair of captoed alden jumper boots in black kid leather or shell in the inelegant trubalance last. However unlike the indy trubalance models in the same size and width the jumper boots pinch my toes still, which is fucking annoying but it's the widest shit I can find. With a suit nobody notices that they're not oxfords. Thankfully I've not needed to wear one as frequently these days as I had to in the past.
>>18143461There's also that one place in Austria, since the others all closed it's just the one left. Man I'd love to go back there with a sack full of cash and let them go nuts.
>>18142820I have wide feet and TLB is my go to for dress shoes.Narrow heels (not like Carmina) and their H width is really good, it's basically the same width as Alden Trubalance on EAnother good fit for me is Enzo Bonafe 363mod with custom extra width (MTO). Heel is also narrow.
not boots but new enzo bonafe shoes came in. they are just basic black oxfords, but i am still pleased with how they came out.
>>18143826
>>18143826They are very good looking.I was considering between EB, AM and TLB but ended up going with TLB to save some money.I got the version with the seamless heel in the back, but the boxcalf is from Annonay not Weinheimer like EB and not vintage Freudenberg with now banned chemicals (the good stuff) like AM. Oh well.I don't wear the black captoes very often but when I do it's important so it's nice to have a good pair.
>>18143831Actually now that I think about it I'm not sure where EB's black boxcalf comes from.
>>18143826Skoak actually has an interesting dark brown oxford GMTO right now.Would come out to about 650€ in total, not bad for a handwelted oxford.But I'm not sure if I need a second oxford after the black one. Maybe I should just get a dark brown pair of loafers instead.
>>18143832i know it's definitely french and definitely not the same tannery where they get the museum leather so i am going to guess du puy or annonay, but it could be somewhere else too.>>18143834i am with you, not expecting to need another pair of oxfords for some time. i will probably wear these 6 times a year to extremely formal events for work.
Any walking tips? How do i keep a good posture while walking?
thoughts on JK OT?
Is the stitching supposed to be that fucky
>>18144344>pnw
>>18144344>nigsfeature not bug
>>18144344What is "fucky" about the stitching? I can't see anything that looks particularly bad
Wore the G&G gators today
>>18144483There are blue gators?
>>18136503>Muh break in>Muh moulding to the foot>Muh comfort>Muh lifetime bootsNigga, a regular pair of real modern day work boots feel way comfortable. Heck putting a $20 dr scholl insole makes any shoe comfortable to wear all day. Yet y'all niggas try and use comfort and durability as a justification for spending $600 on boots?Boots that you don't even wear after 6 months cos you just have an urge to "invest" in another "lifetime boot.
>>18144489The $600 boots are worth it and it’s not even close. The problem is once you get this far you’ll end up buying multiple pairs and never wear through them.
>>18144489>yall>niggago back nigger
>>18144489Posters here are too insecure to like an item for fashion reason. Ironically despite posting on /fa/.
Mega White's sale started
ID on pants and boots in the OP pic?
>>18144166Strengthen your feet. I recommend wearing Chuck 70s without insoles everywhere, as it will help your feet become much stronger. This will in turn slightly increase your shoe size, as your muscles have re-developed again.
is it effey?
I took apart a pair of tricker's today. Everything was as expected>leather heel stack>leather welt>celastic toe counter>leather heel counter>leather midsole>4.8mm leather insole>wood shankQuite interesting to take a peek into how it all works yourself outside of videos. Maybe one day I'll buy some of the required tools to put it back together. I bought the shoes for like $50 a while back to test the w2298 last, but they didn't fit me.
>>18144912Poast more please
>>18144940a piece of the heel stack, the shank, gemming and stormwelt.
midsole + outsole, some of the cork filling and the insole.
the uppers from inside, they were dyed. I wonder whats the deal with the scratches at the toe, it didn't come from me.
you can see the original color and where the welt used to be.
And this is when it still had the welt attached.
>>18144961Wooden shank looks mint condition. Always wondered how wooden shanks hold up over time.All looks very high quality and nicely built. I only own a pair of C&J myself but id imagine they're very similar.
>>18145013They can break, especially on heavily used boots, not sure if you can actually tell it did though. Saw it on a couple of cobbler videos, but none were sent in because of the shank.C&J is essentially the same built, with finer attention to detail, stitching, finishing etc. I much prefer C&J over Tricker's.
>>18144973I see you tried to use skolyx tongue pads on it, was the instep high?Never tried Trickers before, but I might try C&J this autumn (thinking an Islay in dark brown grain)
>>18145140high instep, some heel slip and not wide enough.
>>18144487No they’re brown
>>18145013I believe MiE Docs have a wooden shank -- stupidly broke the one in a pair by bending the shoe too much and it seemed to have some effect on how the shoes feel when you put a ton of miles on them in a day.
is there a thin person with wide feet?
>>18144973The w2298 last is fucking brutal on the toes, I have to trim my nails all the way back or else they scratch the lining. I fear to eventually eat through it all the way to the celastic. It's a shame because I find the heel to be extremely comfortable (with tongue pads).
Ok I just out the saphir shoe Polish on Here’s the before: >>18138974
>>18136503ID on those trousers
these are slick as fuckandrew is good with lastsboth the 602 and 618 look slick as fuckshame i find it too pointy
>>18144912Pretty sure Trickers uses leatherboard for the counter; can you post it? How do you measure the insole as I find it hard to believe their insole is thicker than 3.5mm.
>>18145474It's a genuine leather heel counter>t. has eaten through the lining of many tricker's pairs
>>18141826>>18141865PNW boot making grew almost entirely out of the needs of the forestry and wildland firefighting industry. The last thing you want when you're in the middle of buttfuck nowhere for who knows how long is for your sole to start delaminating. You give 0 fucks about how easy it is to resole at that point. If you don't like it, don't but PNW.
Do Cheaney's ever go on sale on their site?
>>18142722I kinda like it, looks like something from mad max.
>>18145498because the glue, screws, pegs and lumberjack cum isnt enough...just one more stitch bro
Redpill me on Balmorals:Why are they the classiest boot and who makes the best one?
>>18145503Yeah. I worked wildland fire for a decade, and can confirm full stichdown soles absolutely help. You're clearly not the target market.
>>18145561id have you die in a fire for easier resoles though?you versus not having the >cobbler touch the welt?its over for youfeed those pines
>Seconds!They’ve been fucking wornhttps://nicksboots.com/fs-7155/
>>18145567yeah nigs sells BEAT ass fucking boots as "seconds" pic related
>>18145567>>18145575nick sells straight up second hand with a new quarter as seconds
>>18145561But he IS the target market.White Nick Frank all want to be Red Wing. Their new target market is the IPA-drinking, office boys, Amuhricana crowd.If you cater to that new segment, you gotta swtitch up your production style.
Any ID on these boots please?
>>18145656Combs tech
>>18145424Good for you, buddy. Did you polish or use the renovateur?
Bros I got my first pair of leather footwear, a pair of Red Wings moc toes in D width, and my toes feel kinda pushed together, like it doesn't hurt but if I try to spread my toes even a bit I can't. Is it over for me? Am I one of those wide-footed losers, forever doomed to roam the Earth in search of footwear that fits and doesn't look ugly?
>>18145792You're an abomination.
>>18145724Polish, but after looking at them this morning the spot is back.I’ve applied a couple more coats and I’ll let it dry out but I may need to go over it with the light brown.Hopefully it doesn’t come to that since I feel like I’ll probably fuck it up
>>18145792that's just how red wing fits for almost everyone, if you size down a halfyou could have gone true to size for more comfort width-wise and gotten heel slip insteadit gets better as you wear them in, don't expect miracles though
ID on these boots and/or the closest alternative?
>>18145884search for m-43 service boots, n-1 field boot, boondocker bootjohn lofgren, buzz rickson, the real mccoys make them
>>18145884How tall is that boot? Looks taller than 6" which I think most of these >>18145902 are. Or maybe I'm mistaken and the ones he is wearing are actually 6"
>>18145928They look like 8" to me
>>18145933Yeah that was what i was thinking too. Dunno who sells 8" boondocker style boots.
I think I might be developing bunions.It's over.
What do we think of Blundstones for a casual beater shoe? Planning on getting one for work and shit. Are they comfy atleast?
>>18136503what are the boots in the op?
>>18146228https://addict-clothes-store.com/collections/addictboots/products/ab-03h-st-horsehide-chelsea-boots-1
Do I go down 1/2 size from Brannock or a full size down for the White’s 5050 last? I’ve heard for the MP you go down 1/2 and a width up but since the higher heel and arch on the 5050 would shorten the length, I’m a bit concerned. Also do I stay the same width for the 5050 or go up a width?
>>18146401don't listen to the pipo saying full size down. I made that mistake on the 55 and it was way short and not wide enough. I imagine 5050 to be less wide.
>>18146098What sort of tranny shoes have you been wearing?
>>18136503>https://addict-clothes-store.com/collections/addictboots/products/ab-03h-st-horsehide-chelsea-boots-1the boots look good here but weir on the site
>>18146401it's definitely half size down
>>18146098Same. I have bunions from years of looking effay. Im in my mid 30’s now and it’s over. You can’t wear anything but clown shoes now. I want to go back and have fun like every 20 something itt. Do they really believe they will be wearing these boots into adulthood? THEY DONT KNOW WHAT’S COMING!
>>18144961What is the point in a wooden shank in a shoe with a hard rubber commando or dainite sole?
>>18145792Update after going out with them, the width doesn't actually bother me like I thought it would, but the upper edge of the shaft is too hard and digs into the back of my leg, will it soften eventually?
>>18146416>>18146598The thing is that my boots and shoes are mostly potato lasted and I've never felt my toes scrunched in them.Now I don't spend too much time looking at my bare feet but yesterday I noticed the point of my big toes are somewhat pointed inwards. I don't know when did they start to look like that.A quick google search said that it was a sign of developing bunions and that having a roundish big toe is also a sign. I have both. The same page said it was mostly genetic so perhaps I just drew the short straw. I feel no pain, no pressure, no inflamation and no nothing, but still I'm a bit concerned about the future.
>>18146756That’s how it starts. It is genetic, somewhat. But shoes are the main culprit. Throw away your collection of boots and get some barefoot shoes anon before it’s too late.
nice try big barefoot
>>18145211Yep.Rail thin with 8.5EE feet.
>>18146729yes, but if it's really a problem you can condition the shaft to try and soften it. just be careful not to over condition it.
I just want a simple, comfy, every day office shoe.I don't want an oxford, a longwing, a loafer etc too complicated.I just want a plain toe derby. I already own a suede PTB. Now I just want a dark brown calf one, something that's easy to pair with most things.Why does it feel like a waste to spend so much money on such a "simple" shoe.I'll probably wear it a lot more than my oxfords.
>>18146683Do you even understand what a shank does?You dont even make shoes so skip the roseanvil-esque misjudgment.
Ariat chads rise up
>>18147109Christ it was just a question.
>>18147038you should always prioritize quality on frequently worn shoes. spend the money, anon.
>>18136503Are reproduction German M37 and M43 boots any good? I’m looking for something to replace my Chelseas I got a few years ago which are now coming apart. I’ve looked at various boots however the prices have increased substantially since the last time I got a pair of proper boots. I’ve compared the costs and it costs about half as much to buy a leather soled and hob nailed pair of boots from an online reenactment shop as it would be to buy a brand new pair of Doc martins (I’ve been recommended Doc Martins by a relative but I’m not to sure about them). The boots will be used often for hiking and allotment gardening btw which was part of why I was thinking of getting hobnailed boots. I normally garden in an old pair of hiking boots but they are falling apart as the plastic layer on top of the fabric is coming apart. Also with rubber soled hiking boots the wet soil clings to the sole and I just get a blob of soil forming around the boot that makes it harder to garden.Any advice is appreciated.
>>18147221>doc martensdo not
>>18147221Btw if I do get these I will be buying undyed and staining them brown
just copped, I am going to unironically wear these every day
>>18147236share your grindr, looking for a new bottom.
>>18137570They look way better with a cuff idk why I wasn’t doing this earlier
are danner tachyons good? i heard they are goat for summer
>>18147382very shiacore.
>>18143013whats the black boots on the far left?
Are black oxfords too formal to wear with black pleated cotton trousers and Hawaiian oversized shirts? I'm 26 years old and 6'0. >Picrel
>>18147520>Hawaiian oversized shirtsHow did it ever occur to you that such a fit could look good?
>>18147562Probably he got it from some videogame character
>>18147509wow these actually look nice. Normal height heel, much cleaner pattern and great finishing unlike PNW. Any experience with them?
>>18147519"Rifle" boots, i ordered them from italy
Any recs for a boondocker/service style boot for sub £500? (UK based so thinking about shipping/import as well). I find it hard to really use boots alot if they're super expensive, and above this point I imagine you're well into diminishing returns. I feel like the usual C&J etc are a bit too 'dressy' with the lasts etc. Viberg looks nice but a bit costly, Berwick have something similar but looks more like a Coniston clone than a service boot
>>18148044I know its not sub 500, but eastwestapparel has just restocked the Lofgren M-43, all the sizes are available. Might be worth to splurge a bit more.
>>18148086
I'm starting to believe that many boot companies cut the most popular sizes from the best pieces of leather they get then use whatever's leftover to try and cobble together the others.
>>18148044C&J Kelso? Wouldn't say it's dressy. To me it looks similar to boondockers.
what can i get that is like the the gaziano & girling thorpe at half the price? i don't mind waiting if mto is the only option.
I’ve never had a shoe that fits. It’s either too tight or too loose. I’ve tried hundreds of different sizes and lasts. Is there such a thing as the perfect fit?
Do I need to waterproof my pair of guidi 795v? They got rained on today.
>>18142241I like them, do you ever tend to the leather or are you not rly invested in it
>>18148310enzo bonafe using the 946 last
>>18148424For some people probably. Everyone else just makes do somehow, sometimes with tricks and tweaks, and gets on with it.
>>18148561pie crust apron can't be done as far as i know, ask for a split raised lake apron, it will look the closest to it. Reverse stitched toe can be done for a little upcharge.
>>18148044Stop worrying about looking "dressy". You aren't American. There is nothing wrong with not looking like a slob.
>>18148044oak street trench boot is the best not dressy but not chunky boot imo but then you're getting oakstreets and their raided out welting machine
>>18148448no, they're fine
>>18148561>>18148563i should have guessed enzo bonafe, but i just couldn't find any good examples of a similar boot among the examples online. i will reach out and see what can be done.
Skoak has this on sale and it's my size on a last where I already own a pair of loafers and it fits well (with tongue pad).The price is a steal but I'm not sure on the style (too bright color?) and the leather sole with no topy or any other protection. Not even toe plates.
Then there's this bargain.I don't have a black loafer.It's GYW, thin rubber sole, less than 175€Not sure why I'm even thinking about it, it's so cheap.
>>18141088Thirdsday boots has been doing it from the beginning
Help me decide, these allen edmonds chukkas or grant stone diesel boots?
>>18148778
>>18148778>>18148785that chukka looks fucking ugly. The GS is a basic service boot, idk about the color IRL, but i'd take it any day of the week over that chukka.
>>18148153But hey, that’s just a theory - a game theory!
>>18148833I think it's true to some extent though, I usually need a small size and have seen two examples. I bought a CXL pair from one company and received one with three separate scars on the leather. They seemed to be clicked strategically to place them in places where they wouldn't stand out but they were there. That pair wound up being too small so I exchanged for a more common size and I received an impeccable pair with awesome marbling on both of the rears.A few days ago I received a pair from a different company that used a leather with a lot of variation. The description stated that pairs would vary but they would match within the pairs "beautifully". The pair I received looked like it was comprised of whatever the fuck they had leftover. The vamps have different patterns on them and most of the quarters are darker than the rest of the boot. One of the boots honestly looks pretty good but the other looks like shit and together they're just fucking confused. It just kind of feels like they said "well someone is going to get the shit parts so let's put them on the less common sizes and hope they don't complain".
>>18148153What are the most popular sizes?
>>18148891I don't exactly have boot sales data in front of me but I'm going to guess most companies sell more boots in sizes 9-10 than they do size 6 or 13
>>18148745Black is too dressy for loafers.
what's the best alternative to blundstones? I am currently in the archive and never realized people had meh opinions on them. I haven't worn boots since childhood even though I live in western ny and want something along those lines. never realized they were npc boots but I'm new to this. just tired of wearing vans or my walking shoes in the snow lol
>>18149085RM Williams
>>18149087I'll check em out, ty anon
>>18149096>>18149096NEW>>18149096>>18149096NEW
>>18148778>>18148785don't get aegrant stones just werk